1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, October ninth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, episode number 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: fifty six. Welcome to another edition of The Break, live 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We've 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff to get into today. Yesterday 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: was pretty explosive. Today may not be as explosive, but 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: it'll be a day for some perspective. I think. I 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: think today will be the day when, instead of jumping 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: off the ledge, we will give you the reasons why 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: maybe you shouldn't jump off the ledge and give some 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: perspective to what you're seeing so far this season through 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: five games where we export Oh, it was definitely, it was. 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: It was pretty It was definitely explosives. Talking cowboys. Cowboys. 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: That's because we all like each other and we get along. 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: Talking cowboys gets contentious about whether or not it's raining outside, 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: Like that's that's nothing new. Like we we disagree, but 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: we disagree friendly, like we we're friends. We can have 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: a discussion that we disagree, Right, So let's get into it. Um. 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: I guess the first thing I want to get to 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: today is just talk a little bit about this NFC East. 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: I mentioned it yesterday, um and as and I know 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Dave doesn't like this conversation because as bad as the 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys are, I don't think you like even mentioning the 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: fact of where they sit in a bad division. But 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: right now they are only half a game out of 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: first place, UM in the NFC East right now watching 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: US two and two after they get blasted last night, 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: which I don't know that anybody couldn't have seen that 34 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: coming to some degree when when Brady's I mean when 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: when Breeze is going for this record and and they're 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: at home in New Orleans, just everything about that, as 37 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: they were talking about in the pregame, I'm like, this 38 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: has a beat down written all over it, and that's 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: exactly what they got last night. But it was cool 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: to see Drew Brees get that record. That was really cool. Yeah. No, 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: I mean I covered the Cowboys. I don't really. I 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: don't know very much about the Saints anymore, but you know, 43 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: I turned it on and I grew up watching Drew Brees. 44 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: It was super I mean I got a little emotional 45 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: watching him do it was cool. Yeah, a little missed it. 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the most important athlete in New Orleans history. 47 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: And I know it's I said this on Twitter last night, like, 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: I know it's cheesy, but he really does mean a 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: lot to that city in a very non sports way. 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was cool. I mean it's weird to 51 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: think that like one of the you know, handful of 52 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks ever to play is came from the Saints. 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't think of the Saints as a 54 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: laughing stock anymore because of him, which we certainly did. 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: We certainly they certainly were for a long time. So 56 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: it was cool. The moment with his son at Sons, 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: I thought was pretty cool. That was that was pretty emotional, 58 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: just having that that opportunity to see him with his 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: sons during that time. But going back to the NFC, 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: East Washington loses last night. They're two and two and 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: two Cowboys at two and three are sitting in second place, 62 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: tied with the Eagles, but one game. I guess they 63 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: have the tie break over them at this point because 64 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: they did win one division game against the Giants, and 65 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: nobody's any good I'm not trying to right, and then 66 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: the Giants are at one and four laying I know. 67 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: One point is that you know the two and three 68 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: two into whatever, Like nobody's really running away with anybody. 69 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: Like nobody looks to be explosive on any side of 70 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: the ball. I think Washington's offense is Washington looks a 71 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: lot like Dallas to me with their offense. You know 72 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: that they just don't have a lot of explosive players there. 73 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Their defense looks pretty aggressive, but they definitely got burned 74 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: last night. But like you said, that was kind of 75 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: a hornessness that they were walking into there. There was 76 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: no way that Drew Brees and Sean Payton weren't going 77 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: to get that job done. I don't know who number 78 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: ten is, but he looks like he's gonna be a 79 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: problem for a while. Trey Kwon Smith or see from 80 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: us you see f he's a third round pick, which 81 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: third picks abounds doing third round picks don't make me. Hey, 82 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: they don't have Drew Brees. I guarantee if Michael Gallup 83 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: was streaping streaking down the sideline without a defender within 84 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: twenty yards of thinking, that's a touchdown for him too. 85 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was ridiculous. But you look at 86 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: this entire division, it's pretty bad. I mean, you look 87 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: at this relative to the other division. It's the only 88 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: division in football right now that doesn't have a team 89 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: with a winning record. The top team in the division 90 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: is at five hundred and uh and you look at 91 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: just a total number of wins. I think they're two games, 92 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: two wins less than the next closest team. Right now, 93 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: the NFC East looks pretty bad. Yeah, I mean I 94 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: think he's still got to worry about the Eagles. I 95 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: mean they're gonna you know, Carson Wentz, he'll eventually I think, 96 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: be okay ast a running back season. Well okay, well 97 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 1: the other three running backs they got a few, and 98 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think and sorry I did hear that 99 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: room up? Go ahead, yeah, Nick, nick Foles. I mean, 100 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: it's it's no different than anybody else. I mean, just 101 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: like Dak and these other guys, these defensive cord I mean, 102 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: they are what they are for a reason they can 103 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, hit, I can straight gold for a little 104 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: bit and get hot and all that, But for the 105 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: most part of mean, he is what he is. And 106 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: so I think Philadelphia Wentz they play with Wins, I 107 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: think they'll be the team to beat. Here's one thing 108 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: I do wonder though, and we've seen this happen before 109 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: with this teaming with other teams. You change the coach, 110 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: you change the guy who's making the calls, and sometimes 111 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: things change up. Frank Ryk, who was calling their offensive 112 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: plays last year now the head coach in the Indianapolis Colts. 113 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: How much does that affect Wins and the monster run 114 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: he was on last year? How much does that affect him? 115 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: I know Dave Peterson's I mean, I'm sorry David Doug 116 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 1: Peterson really good coach and obviously a good offensive mind. 117 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: But I wonder how much that can that can affect him. 118 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: And don't forget either that the Filippo, the guy who 119 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: calls the plays in Minnesota, now was his quarterbacks coach. 120 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: So good point. Both of the guys that had their 121 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: hands on him the most are gone. And I agree 122 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: with Nick, I think Wins is going to be fine. 123 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: I would still give Philly the nod as the team 124 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: to beat. But also, like, the thing that troubles me 125 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: with them is not wins because he's coming back off 126 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: in ACL. It's their defense. Honestly, that's classic Super Bowl 127 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: hangover is you know, you let Vinnie Curry go, you 128 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: let um Who else did they kick off of that line? 129 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: I know they let I think two of them are 130 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: in Tampa now. I can't remember Vinny Curry's going. They 131 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: did relace, Yeah, no, they did, but it new pieces 132 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: and then Rodney McLoud goes down with an injury, and 133 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: their secondary all of a sudden looks like it sucks. 134 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: Jalen Mills is having his struggles. Malcolm Jenkins is a 135 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: good player, but he can't do it all himself. So 136 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: there appear to be some really serious flaws there. Like 137 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: I would guess they'll probably get it together, but they've 138 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: already lost as many games as they did all of 139 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: last season. And you know, the Giants are, uh, they're 140 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: interesting because you know, they went to Carolina and they 141 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: put up some points there late in the game of 142 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: me lost pretty well three yard field goal. I mean, like, 143 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, they good enough to win, They've got issues 144 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: in locker room obviously with with Odell and talking and 145 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But I think they're gm. 146 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that the front office is starting 147 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 1: to figure it out because they decided to part ways 148 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: with Eric Flower. So that makes me think that, you 149 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: know what, they're actually getting it there, because I don't 150 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: now they do think they can get a trade for it. No, 151 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I think they were just putting it out there like, hey, 152 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: by the way, we're cutting this guy. Anybody wants him, 153 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't care if anybody wants him, just let us know. 154 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: Otherwise we're cutting him. Yeah, who's gonna say, oh, I'll 155 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: take that. Oh? I don't know, But I think that 156 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: was kind of there. That was kind of their last 157 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: dit Jefford, just to say, yeah, we're making this move. 158 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: If anybody should happen to want him, it's anyone jumping 159 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: onto the mailbag with that, because any anybody that gets 160 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: put out there, they say, hey, what about the Cowboys? 161 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: Did anyone do that? But Brian was giving me crap 162 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: about it this morning, like I'm not the mailbag guy anymore. 163 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: Rob's been doing it this season, And Brian was like, 164 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: you haven't even looked in the mail bag this year, 165 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: have you? And I was like, no, Rob's on top 166 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: of it. Ware you go Rob so nice him And 167 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: you came back and said, that's because I'm reading your 168 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: st Yeah. I was like, I was like, I do 169 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: plenty of stuff, Like I'm sorry that I'm not doing 170 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: the mail bag. Brian just loves to find ways to 171 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: needle me about things. One other questions about the East. 172 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: You think any chance that the Redskins at the end 173 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: of the season are going to be at the top 174 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: of this division? I mean the only team I don't 175 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: think the Giants will be at the top of the division. 176 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: Everybody else I could see, which it's weird. That's what 177 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say is I got to readjust my 178 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: mindset because from Okay, the Cowboys were great in OH seven, 179 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: and then the Giants won the Super Bowl, and then 180 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: the Giants were like pretty good in O eight, but 181 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: not as good as they should have been. Probably the 182 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: same goes for the Cowboys, obviously, but then from like 183 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine to thirteen, you were just trading 184 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: one team having decent season and everybody else kind of sucking. 185 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: And then from eleven to thirteen it was everybody sucked 186 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this makes I said this last night on Twitter. 187 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: It reminds me of twenty thirteen. Cowboys were trading wins 188 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: and losses and they didn't look very good, but it 189 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: was like, well, who who else is any good? Like 190 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: everybody else sucks too, so they're gonna beat each other up. 191 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: Which but then from fourteen to seventeen it wasn't like 192 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: that because the Cowboys were great in fourteen, they were 193 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: terrible in fifteen, so we weren't even talking about this. 194 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: They were great in sixteen, and the Eagles started nine 195 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: and one last year, so you haven't had this problem 196 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: where there wasn't a good team. But fifteen was very 197 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: similar to this. As bad as the Cowboys were that year, 198 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: they weren't out of it. They weren't very end who 199 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: won it and which, which I think they wanted at 200 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: like nine and seven though, like they weren't great. I 201 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: just looked at that, at that offense, I just I 202 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: just don't see the guys there that all. You know, 203 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: obviously they have holes in defense because they got you know, 204 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: they got put up forty something points on them last night, 205 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: But I just don't think their offense is going to 206 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: be good enough to like win a bunch of games. Um, 207 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, they don't really know what they're doing and 208 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: running back seems like and think different guys and receivers. 209 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: Nobody really scares you there, And I think I agree 210 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: with you, but I'm not ready to rule them out. 211 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: I mean, no, no, And they've you know, they beat 212 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: the Packers, not in the Packers look surprisingly bad too, 213 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: So maybe that's not this amazing win. But we'll see. 214 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: These division games will come down and it'll be interesting. 215 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of Division football games to be played. 216 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: I mean, am I wrong by saying that it's just 217 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: Dallas and the Giants. Has anybody else played within the division? 218 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I think Eagles and Me 219 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: play the Giants on Thursday night. Thursday night. I mean, 220 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: and I think when you when you break it down 221 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the year, I think the teams 222 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: that are going to be the division that's going to 223 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: be one of the best in football, I think is 224 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: going to be the AFC South. I do think Jacksonville 225 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: will be there. Tennessee looks pretty good. They've kind of 226 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: taken Aldle step back. Well, Houston's yeah, that's truly lost 227 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: to the Bills in Houston. I think he's actually moving 228 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: up'll do it, um, you know, I'm just saying. And 229 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: they have faced them a lot. This division has faced 230 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: that division a lot this first month. I think the 231 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: NFCS North is going to be the toughest division when 232 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: it's awesome. Thing. Wow, we all disagree. I think the 233 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: NFC North really yeah. I mean, the Bears are the 234 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: hottest team in football, or well, the Chiefs, but the 235 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: Bears are hot. The Packers have Rogers. I don't as 236 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: long as they got them out. Yeah, and then the 237 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: Vikings are stacked so and the and the Lions are 238 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: not a pushover they never will be. I kind of 239 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: agree with that. But I think just because the Browns 240 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: are now actually playing decent football, I think you could 241 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: say the same thing across the board about the AF. 242 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: The Bengals look really good. Wait, I mean really, is 243 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: the the NFC East one of the two or three 244 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: worst divisions of football? Maybe the worst? I mean, I'm 245 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: having other than maybe if you want to put the 246 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: NFC South in there. NFC South is having gets struggles. 247 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: Outside of the Rams, they really got nothing. Sorry interesting West, 248 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry NFC West. If unless other than the Rams. 249 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: They really got nothing else on another team of the 250 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: winning record that I would throw the AFC East in there. 251 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: They've been they have the best team in football, but 252 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: they've been garbage for twenty years, Like that same team 253 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: in that division is any good? And that's the thing 254 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: about it is right now everybody can just get their 255 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: ass kicked. Everybody can you who's the best team in football? 256 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: The paid tricks is that? Who? Just? Well I meant 257 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: over the last year and I agree with you one 258 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: d percent. That's who I thought you were talking about. 259 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: Two the same team. They got wrecked by the Lions, 260 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: and you know, and the Vikings look pretty good, but 261 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: the Bills smashed them. And you know, everybody's kind of 262 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: had one. And then is it this week that the 263 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs and Rams play? No, it's next month, next month. 264 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: Oh that's in Mexico. Yeah, yep, I thought I just 265 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: saw a promo for it. I didn't know if it 266 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 1: was this coming up or not. Unless you're a Chiefs, 267 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: Rams or maybe Bengals fan, you don't have a And well, 268 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: the Bears, because they've been they've played so much beingles 269 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: are gonna disappoint. They're gonna disappoint them why. I mean, 270 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is why he's playing great. Okay, I'm just 271 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: saying they won. They've won that division like three out 272 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: of the last five. It's the playoffs where they have 273 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: their struggles. They do something. They not saying they're gonna 274 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: win a play about some things in a regular season. 275 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. I just don't. You 276 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: just don't like him. No, I don't dislike him. I 277 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: just don't ahead he come from any get no, where'd 278 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: he come from? Where did he come from? I think 279 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: he's from Rockwall. No, where'd you go to college? I 280 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: don't know. Not a fan. I think that has a 281 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: little bit. I just know it doesn't that not that 282 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: point Amber pointed this out last. I mean, you gotta 283 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't use those preconceived notions in an 284 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: NFL season because you said that about the Eagles last 285 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: year and they went thirteen and three and won Super Bowl. Right, 286 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: let's put it. Let's put it out there. What the Bengals, 287 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's they're probably. I mean they already have 288 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: four wins. They're a ten win team, and that's that'll 289 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: get you to the playoffs. I don't know if that want, 290 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: you just see what happens at that point, right, you 291 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: get to playoffs. Well, they be in the AFC Championship. 292 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: I doubt it. I doubt it. But and that's just 293 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: based on history sittings. That's just me taking the field, like, yeah, right, 294 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: who the hell knows. But the thing about that is 295 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: is that they they play in probably the most physical division. 296 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens, the Browns have gotten their defenses 297 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: really well. Yeah, and the Steelers, of course, it is 298 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: tough to to do anything really from that division just 299 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: because they be each other up. So I just history 300 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: tells me that the Bengals probably won't sustain it. 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But also this morning 352 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: on one on five dot three of the fan here 353 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: in Dallas, Jerry had his morning talk with the guys 354 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: over there and they were asked and Jerry was talking 355 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: about the wide receiver position and basically said, the Cowboys 356 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: haven't had a number one receiver for a couple of years, 357 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: a few years. Let's listen to that quote that you 358 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: and Steven had though, because I want to I want 359 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: to dive into this conversation after we hear that there's 360 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: not a silver bullet here. We've got to go to work. 361 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: There's no number one receivers laying around on the street 362 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: out there, so we've just got to get to work. 363 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: And give us the context of that Nick you were 364 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: doing the interview I had asked him. I said, you know, 365 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: we talked about number one receivers all off season and 366 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: that the thought was that you could get this done 367 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: by committee. After seeing the first five games and seeing 368 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: what Houston's number one receiver did single handedly, do you 369 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: still feel like you know that you don't have a 370 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: number one you need one? And he basically said doesn't 371 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: matter because there's not one out there. And I think 372 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: everybody knows exactly. I mean, if you're reading between the lines, 373 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: everyone knows what that means and what he's saying. I 374 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 1: don't even know your name, but they forgot it. I 375 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: think they have forgotten his name now or they don't 376 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: want to. I mean, basically, and let's go with what's 377 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: what Jerry said too, I mean, and help us out 378 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: with that. But I mean they're basically saying Dez Bryant 379 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: is not going to fix this problem. He is not 380 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: a number one receiver. So don't don't bring up that. 381 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: But do you have you have Jerry's quote written down? Um, 382 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: I don't have the exact quote. It was Cowboys haven't 383 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: had a true number one bide receiver in years. That 384 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: was part of the quote. I actually, so that's you know, 385 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean that for them, that's the gist of it, Yeah, 386 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: saying he's talking about yeah, and here's the deal. And 387 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: I went back and obviously you hear that, and at 388 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: first you raise your eyebrows, but really, if you go 389 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: back and you look at the numbers all the way 390 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: back until probably twenty fourteen or not, probably two thousand 391 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: and fourteen was the last time Dez had numbers that 392 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: reflected a true number one wide receiver. I'm talking about 393 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: in the top ten in categories. Did the math receiving 394 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: and and and touchdowns and yards. I did the math 395 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: when I wrote the story about Jerry's comments. Over the 396 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: three years after he signed his seventy million dollars deal 397 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: after the fourteen season and the three years after that, 398 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: he averaged fifty catches for six hundred and seventy eight 399 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: yards and six touchdowns per year, which those are great 400 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: numbers if you're not on a seventy million dollar contract. Yep. 401 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: So I mean that's I kind of look at it like, 402 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: and you know, further, I would have loved to have 403 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: seen them negotiate something with Dez where they brought his 404 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: number down and kept him here. I think he would 405 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: probably still be the best receiver on this offense. But yeah, 406 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: that that it didn't raise my eyebrows that much because 407 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: I was like, well, yeah, like, obviously they feel that way. 408 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: They cut him when and his numbers bear it out too. 409 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: Were what year was it. We sat there and we 410 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 1: did the interview in his in Jerry's office, and they 411 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: signed him to the extension. When was that It was 412 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: the summer of fifteen, Okay, the summer of fifteen, So fifteen, sixteen, 413 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: and seventeen, yes, so he said for the last three years, 414 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: so they he didn't specify years several years I was 415 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: playing out. Those three years have been the three years 416 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: that his numbers didn't reflect him being a number one receiver. 417 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: Then you know what, You know that they paid him 418 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: the money to be an elite player, and you know 419 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: they they've gotten in trouble with this way back in 420 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: the late nineties of paying players for what they have 421 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: done and not for what they were projected to do. 422 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: And maybe they did project him to bed. No, I can't, 423 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: I can't go there, I and I've I've said this before. 424 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: They signed Dez Bryant to a five year deal thinking 425 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: that he'd play most of, if not all, of that 426 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: with Tony Romo, and he played two more games with him, 427 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: Like straight up, I mean, and I mean, there's no 428 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: way to say this without sounding like yours bashing Dak, 429 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: which that's not my intention, But I think des Bryant 430 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: would probably still be on this team if Tony Romo 431 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: was the quarterback. I think if you put Dez Bryant 432 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: on a team like the Saints, he might not be. 433 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: He probably has dropped a couple notches from the Odell's 434 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: and the Abs and the Julios of the world. But 435 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: he would be a much more productive receiver with a 436 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: quarterback like that who can do whatever he wants to 437 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: than he would be on this team. And that's the point. That's, honestly, 438 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: the point that I'm trying to I've been trying to 439 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: make with regards to Dez Bryant is it's not that 440 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: Dez is no longer can no longer be a productive player. 441 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: It's that under the current circumstance with the quarterback that 442 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: you have, and what we've seen since he's been with 443 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: that quarterback is he's not that elite kind of receiver. 444 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: And guess what, the quarterback isn't going anywhere. So if 445 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: you have him here, you're gonna be paying him elite 446 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: money to give you pedestrian production. And it's not worth it. 447 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: It's not worth having that guy in the building when 448 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: you're doing that. And I'm not trying to sound smartie, 449 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: but I feel like we covered all of this in 450 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: the offseason, like this isn't new information. And that's I 451 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: hate it so much. But the phrase Dak friendly is 452 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: basically Dez at this point last season had two hundred 453 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: and something yards on like fifty targets. Like to get 454 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: him involved the way you want to in this offense 455 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: with this quarterback, you just got to target him fifteen 456 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: times a game. And that's not in their best interests. 457 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: So they so they got rid of him, I mean basically. 458 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: And I on it, like I said, I don't know 459 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: that it was like this terrible blunder because I think 460 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: if Dez Bryant was here, it would look awfully similar. Well, 461 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: let me ask you this question. Go ahead. Well, I 462 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: just think that it's hard to just go back and 463 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: say we covered this in the off season because the 464 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: offseason you expected, or at least you know, there was 465 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: some hope from this team that the receivers. Right now, 466 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: after five games, it's like, well, now let's revisit this. 467 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: How bad was it? Because these guys aren't aren't making 468 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: plays for you either, you know, And so the negative 469 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: plays that you saw from Dez last year, you know, 470 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: drop passes that led to an interception in Denver and 471 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: things like that. You saw that kind of stuff, and 472 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: You're like, Wow, that's a that's that's not great. These 473 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: guys are doing it here without really making some des 474 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: was making some plays for both teams. But I mean, 475 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: like Deontay Thompsons is not making a play for you know, 476 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys at all. I'm not sure Deontay Thompsons 477 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: the one that's kind of weird here because what is 478 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: he He's a four two guy that can run. So 479 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: when if we seen him run down the field, no, 480 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: we see him run like I mean, passes over the 481 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: middle and that Carolina, they put all of their eggs 482 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: in that basket. That he who hadn't practiced most training camp, 483 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: and he got cut earlier and comes back and a 484 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: fourth and ten or whatever runs an out that the 485 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: timing is going to be perfect between him and I mean, 486 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: and that lost the game for him or that was 487 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: the last play there, and then he had a couple 488 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: of I just don't understand why they're trying to make 489 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: this guy into a wide receiver when he's never been. 490 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: When he's never been, I mean, he's a speed guy 491 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: and they're not using them that way. They're trying to 492 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: use him as a possession guy. And I think his 493 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: hands are as good as ours well. But that's also 494 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: the problem when you don't have when you're kind of 495 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: throwing everybody into one mosh pit and saying we'll just 496 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: kind of use them all rather than having guys like 497 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: I got a guy that I know can stretch the field, 498 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: I got a guy that I know runs great routes 499 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: that can move the chains. Like there, I don't think 500 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: they have, or at least it doesn't seem like they may. 501 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like they have really well defined roles 502 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: on what guys do well and getting him in them 503 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: in those situations most frequently. And that was fine in 504 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: the spring. It was actually it was kind of exciting 505 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: in the spring to be like, oh, like all ten 506 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: of these guys are doing a little bit of everything, 507 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: like they're really gonna try to see who does what 508 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: the best. But like we're still kind of doing that 509 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: in October, which they've you know, they've tightened up the 510 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: rotation a little bit. I would guess I don't have 511 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: the snap counts in my head, but I think it's 512 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: a little more defined than it was. But yeah, still 513 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: like again for the like Alan Hearns seems like he 514 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: would be your best possession receiver. They don't. They use 515 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: him that way, but not enough in my opinion. They 516 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: don't use Tavon to his strengths. They haven't been using 517 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: Deonte to his strengths. And you're quite frank the same 518 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: thing with Cole Like, I don't think. I think that 519 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: that when you're on that fourth and one, that third 520 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: and one him on a flare route, you're probably going 521 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: to have a good shot of completing that. I I 522 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: know you guys Joe groan and called me the implier. 523 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm not implying anything here. I'm saying everything. I'm saying 524 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: everything that I know. I think the Cowboys will get 525 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: a wide receiver in here in the next Cup a 526 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: week or two that we have heard of. This won't 527 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: be Dez Bryant, but it'll be somebody that they're going 528 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: to try to bring in here. And that's all that 529 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: I know would be available. I mean, I'm just saying 530 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: there could be you could sign someone, you could try 531 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: to trade for someone. I don't think it'll be anybody 532 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: that's significant. I don't think anyone that will really really help. 533 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: I do think they will try to do something. You 534 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: can't keep going with this Again, I'm not implying that's 535 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: all that I know. That's what I think is going 536 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: to happen in the next I would say week to 537 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: ten days, I'd be kind of shocked because I think, well, 538 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: if they bring in trying not get it, but if 539 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: they're bringing in more of the same, it just clouds 540 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: it even further. I would I would maybe go if 541 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: I were them, I may go the route of saying, 542 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: tighten up my rotation even more, figure out the guys 543 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: that I really want to use on specific roles and 544 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: focus on using them in that role versus bringing another 545 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: guy and throwing them in the mix. And I just 546 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: got one more guy that's doing what everybody else is doing. 547 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: If anybody, I'm sorry, anybody got kind of like excited 548 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: about that comment that I just may just remember the 549 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: last ten days, they also brought in a receiver that 550 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: you've heard of before and he's done absolutely nothing, So 551 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean anything. They brought in Bryce Butler. I'm 552 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: saying it could be something like that. Heck they need 553 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: to use. If they're gonna do that, they probably do 554 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: better off just using Butler. If they're gonna bring somebody 555 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 1: else in, that's probably the same ilk right. I don't know. 556 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: If they want to give Bryce a shot, that would 557 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: be great. Otherwise, like, if they're not gonna change anything, 558 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: I would lean on Beasley. Hearns t well Tavon as 559 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: the way Tavon should be used, not not sending him 560 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: down the field to catch twenty yard routes like Tavon. 561 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: Use Tavon the way that the Texans use Kiki qt 562 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: like it. It doesn't seem like it should be that hard. 563 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: Um I was gonna say, Gallop, I don't love saying 564 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: that because I mean, you want to go to bat 565 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: for the draft pick. But he has done he has 566 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: done something to indicate that he's not ready for this 567 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: in basically every game. So maybe Bryce. Yeah, Um, I'm 568 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna I'm I need to ask around. I haven't, but 569 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: we're getting We're coming up on when Noah Brown can 570 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: start practicing, not playing, but after Actually I think maybe 571 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: he could practice this week if they wanted him too. 572 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, Like I said, I don't 573 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: know if they have any intention of bringing him back. 574 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: If you do that, that's one of your IR spots 575 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: that you can't use anymore. So can I answer that 576 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: question because I have asked around yeout that for the 577 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: answer is yes, they are intending on bringing him back. 578 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: Right there you go. I would love to see that 579 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: another case for your pre show meetings. Dare mmm, No, 580 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: I like we hash it out. Yeah, sure, bro's talking. 581 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't say and talk about Noah Brown 582 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: all the time, but ye had since it came up. 583 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: I do. I do think that he's a guy that 584 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: they are they would look to bring back here at 585 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: some point. I would. I would love to see it. 586 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: I was impressed with him as a rookie, and nobody 587 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: else is making their case. So yeah, it's true. 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Stay up waistbands. 660 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: That sucks. Yeah, you stretch out that elastic a couple 661 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: of times, and all of a sudden, you know we're 662 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: supposed to Why Tommy John is so good because they 663 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: get they give you everything. They also keep them on 664 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: your waist, no adjustment needed. Shop Exclusive Cowboys Underwear Tommy 665 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: John dot Com Forward Slash Cowboys. Oh yeah, let's get 666 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: into it underwear. I had a question for you guys 667 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: right before the break. We're talking about the wide receiver position, 668 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: particularly talking about number one wide receivers. I had a 669 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: fan on Twitter before the show bring up what I 670 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: thought was a very valid point, or at least a 671 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: point that was worth discussion, which is last year, despite 672 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: what you thought about the production from Dez Bryant, despite 673 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: what you thought about the production from from Jason Witten, 674 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: the fact is, when Jason Witten and Des Bryan are 675 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: on your offense, defenses have to account for them because 676 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: if they don't account for them, they can make them 677 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: look silly. Right Is that a situation or should that 678 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: be something that should be considered here when you talk about, hey, 679 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: the Cowboys really don't need a number one. Does the 680 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: threat of having a Dez Bryan out there, even if 681 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: he's not a true number one, just the threat of 682 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: the damage that he can do, is that enough to 683 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: still need to have him on a team like this one. 684 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: I think there's there's a couple of ways to look 685 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: at that one, like, yeah, yeah, they miss him in 686 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: the sense that they are good veteran players who you 687 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: can typically count on to do what they're supposed to, 688 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: Like Jason Witten is gonna be there. He's gonna probably 689 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: figure out a way to get open more often than not. 690 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: Dez Bryant can still do des Bryant things. Nick brings 691 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: up the slant against the Giants all the time. You 692 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: have to cover him. But to go back to Jerry 693 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 1: Jones's point, it's been a long time since I remember, 694 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: I think it was fourteen. The count went like first 695 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: time we really thought those Cowboys were a good team. 696 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: They smashed the Saints here in at and T like 697 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: week four. I think like literally, the Saints put two 698 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: corners on him, and I'm not talking about like rolling 699 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: a guy over the top, like literally they had two guys. Yeah, 700 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: and Dads was literally standing on the sideline like are 701 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: y'all kidding me right now? Or I mean not this. 702 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: He was standing in place in the formation like okay, 703 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Like nobody was covering Dads like that in the last 704 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: two years. So he's not to get that kind of 705 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: a team. You got to account for him. And he 706 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: has a track record that makes him more dangerous than 707 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: any of these guys, but he's he's not He wasn't 708 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: that guy in recent memory. I mean, you know the 709 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: thing about it is it reminds me of like the 710 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: last You're probably too young for this, but you know 711 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: the last I don't know, five or ten years of 712 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson. You know, it's like he wasn't what he was, 713 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: but you're always worried about it. Why because he could. 714 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: He could knock you out with punch. He's got that, 715 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of what's happened here with 716 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: Dez in a little bit. It's like, yeah, you're not 717 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: the same, and you don't have to cover him the same, 718 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: but you got to be careful with that. And it's 719 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: not just about Dez, it's about it's about Tavon as well. 720 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: Look back to the first game or this last game. 721 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: A couple of plays they had to touchdown and even 722 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: the shovel pass that on third down that was important. 723 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: It got him in there. Fake to Tavon, shovel to 724 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: to Zeke, fake to Tavon and Zeke throw it to 725 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: Herns in the end zone. You can keep faking it 726 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: all day, but at some point, you know, so the 727 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: threat of not having the ball, it sounds good, but 728 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: you do have to show him every once in a while. So, um, 729 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: that's a good question. You do have to show him 730 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: that we can hurt you and then use that against them. 731 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: And honestly, that's the part I think that would hurt 732 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: this argument is I don't think enough times last year 733 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: Dez actually hurt the opposing team. Now, there were a couple, 734 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: but I don't think it happened frequently and frequently enough 735 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: where teams wouldn't still walk into a game with the 736 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys this year and say the exact same thing they're 737 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: saying right now, which is, if you're gonna beat this team. 738 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: You gotta stop Zeke. Dez is one thing, and we'll 739 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: deal with him. We could probably put one guy on him, 740 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: and we will. We will be okay if we let 741 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: if he gets a big play on us, Like we're 742 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: okay with the idea he might get a big play 743 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: on us. Well, we can't let we can't let get 744 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: off is Zeke. And I think that's that doesn't change. 745 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: That doesn't change where the Dez is on the team 746 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: or not. And that I mean, you know, I worry 747 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: about sounding like a homer, but like we saw Dez 748 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: do so much of the stuff we're seeing right now. 749 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: You brought up the Denver game, the Seattle game last 750 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: Year's burned into my brain forever, like, and he made 751 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,479 Speaker 1: some play and he would probably still be the best 752 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: receiver on this team if he was here, but he 753 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: left a lot of stuff out there. I mean, you 754 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: can blame Dak if you want to. I'm lean more 755 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: toward thinking that if you make twelve million dollars a 756 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: year to play receiver, you should have a DeAndre Hopkins. 757 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: Those balls were not all accurate, and he mean, he's 758 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: got a fifty foot catch radius. It doesn't matter where 759 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: it is he's going to bring it in. You know, 760 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: that's what you're paying twelve million dollars a year for. Right. 761 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: The thing about that is is that he keep going 762 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: back to that statement that I agree with and Dave 763 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: agrees because he just said it. I don't know if 764 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: you do, but that Dez would be the best receiver 765 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: on the team if he was here. Think about any 766 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: other football team in the league, and any other position 767 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: other than maybe kicker, I don't know where else could 768 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: you say if I signed this guy off the street, 769 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: he would be better than anyone else that I have 770 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: for all the problems of well, what he is in 771 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: the locker room and all that. That's a that's a 772 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: statement that's needs I think needs to be addressed like 773 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: no one No other team can say that no other position. 774 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: You could say, there's nobody out there that would be 775 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: the best of all of that, but he would be. 776 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: My question back to you, when you're saying that, you're 777 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: speaking purely from the point standpoint of just raw skill 778 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: as a receiver. You're saying he'd be the best one. Now, 779 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: let's factor in the other reasons, because there were other 780 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: reasons why he's not on this team. When you factor 781 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: in those other reasons, is his ability that much greater 782 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: to where it's worth saying have him put him on 783 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: this team? That's the issue well ahead any other team 784 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: in any For any other team they had, they'd have 785 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: to deal with the part of Des learning the offense 786 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: and all that. I mean, so you got a guy 787 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: that would be talent wise, raw talent, like you said, 788 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: better than anyone you have. It's got more experience in 789 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: production than anyone else that you have. He's got an 790 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: understanding of the offense. May not be better than anyone 791 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: else you have, but he does have an understanding of 792 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: the offense. And you know, I but don't you think 793 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: being cut and being on the street no one's signing you. 794 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that would change anything? Humble 795 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: him at all? Did not? I don't know. Do you 796 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: think it doesn't feel like he doesn't seem like Twitter 797 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: activity does not indicate that it has um which the 798 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: other thing for me is okay, all of that is 799 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: very all of that is very important, and for how 800 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: good his relationship with Jerry Jones is. I'm sure Des 801 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: has burned several bridges in this building, in the locker 802 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: room and out of the locker room. But my thing is, 803 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: what how big is the difference in production? Really? Like honestly, 804 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean that because like Dez would definitely be leading 805 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: this team in catches and yards probably, I think he'd 806 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: also be far and away leading in targets because we 807 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: saw it last year's Like, even though he is a 808 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: complimentary player in this offense, at this point in time, 809 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: you have to plan for him, like he's a premier guy. 810 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: Like that's what they did. He had forty targets through 811 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: four games. That's why they did this. Is that Michael 812 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: Gallup isn't gonna say bup if he gets two targets 813 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: in the game. He's a rookie. Deontay Thompson is not 814 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: going to raise a stink about getting five targets in 815 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: the game because that's probably a career high for it. 816 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: They're getting there. One, there's one guy that's ye're saying, 817 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: they're they're getting there because everybody, well, what they're what 818 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 1: what it sounds like they're doing. It sounds like they're 819 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: just saying it's not us, that's that's what. It's not 820 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: so much give me the ball as much as they're saying, hey, 821 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: everybody out there is trying to point the finger at us. 822 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: It ain't us. That's what I'm here rich from there. 823 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: It's it is, but that's not. That's at least what 824 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: I think they're saying is it's not it's everything. It's everything. 825 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: It's everything talking great, but they're not getting open. But 826 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: that's why I say yesterday, there's only one of all 827 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: that we're talking about. There's only one or two positions 828 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: that our expectations were different than what we're seeing right now, 829 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: and that's offensive line and running back. That's the we 830 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: had high expectations for. It's as easily needs to be 831 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: the number three receiver on this team, and he's not. 832 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: He's the number one receiver, and that's the problem. He 833 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: needs to be number three. He needs to be the 834 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: guy that's the mismatch guy. But if teams want to 835 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: take him out of the game, they'll take him out 836 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: of the game and then leaving you with what that's 837 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: that's to me, that's I mean, that's what they've they've 838 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: committed themselves to what we're gonna do when all else fails, 839 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: we fall back on our running it. Yeah, that's what 840 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: they've committed to. It's funny, because I mean, it's it's 841 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: the it's a tale as old as time this league. 842 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: Every damn near every team in the league thinks it 843 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: has a shot at the playoffs when the season starts. 844 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: That's what's great about it. But so damn near every 845 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: team in the league feels really good about what they 846 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: did in the offseason, which in some cases it has 847 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: worked out, Like the linebacker situation has worked out perfectly 848 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: with the way they planned it out, even it hadn't 849 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: been great. But safety has not sunk this team yet. 850 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: You could say the same thing about their defensive front. 851 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: But having said all of that, they are currently getting 852 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: a big f for how that they decided to approach 853 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver, like none of the stuff that they thought 854 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: would happen, like we think we think Michael Gallup, we 855 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: think Alan Hearns will do this with you know, Diante, 856 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: he worked with sanjt Like none of it's working in 857 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: we think he can be this and and doctorserve some 858 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: blame in that too, for that matter, because these are 859 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: supposed to be guys tailored to what he wants to 860 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 1: do and they might not be getting open. They certainly 861 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: aren't getting open all the time, but he's missing throws 862 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: as well when he's having those opportunities. I just thought 863 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: about something, have you guys, Has anybody asked the question 864 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: what happened to the whole concept of Tavon being a 865 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: web back. I don't think I've seen him line up 866 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: in the backfield at all. I don't like, I don't 867 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: care where he lies. I'm what I take some offense 868 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: to that because I've been yelling about it all season long. 869 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: They're not using him the way that he seems like 870 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: he is screaming to be used. My point was that 871 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: was what was said on draft Day, and that's what 872 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: they talked about there at the beginning, is that you 873 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: look at how the Rams were using him last year. Year. 874 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: They lined him up in the backfield a lot. I mean, 875 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: he was getting carries quite a bit, probably more of 876 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: a ball carrier than just a receiver for the Rams 877 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: last year. So my expectation from what they said was 878 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: that he was going to be a guy that was 879 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: going to have the ball in his hands more frequently 880 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: as a as a runner, just as a runner. So 881 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: whether that's a bubble screen, whether that's a handoff, they 882 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: were gonna find ways just get the ball in his hand. 883 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: That's not necessarily as a receiver, because they made a 884 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: point of saying web back versus wide receiver. At what 885 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: point did that change and if so, why are they 886 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: not Did they decide to do that versus using him 887 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: more in that role? I know my question. I don't 888 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: care if he ever takes a single handoff out of 889 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: the backfield. But Josh Norris, who's a fantasy football guru, 890 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: I quote tweeted this last night. Key Key Qt's average 891 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: depth of target of five yards is the lowest of 892 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: any wide receiver in the league with twenty plus targets. 893 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: You can spend it in a positive way because he's 894 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: got twenty two targets in just two games. Again, that's 895 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 1: what I said when we were previewing him last week. 896 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: He never touches the ball all more than five six 897 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: yards down field. He's still a crucial component of their offense, 898 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: which is my point. No, but I don't care if 899 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: Tavon's lining up at running back. Just get him the 900 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: ball in shallow space where he doesn't have to make 901 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: this amazing grab to get the ball. Same thing. Yeah, No, 902 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: we are, we are, but it's something I've been harping 903 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: on and will continue to harp on because I don't 904 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: understand it right, and I would be interested to see 905 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: what coaches have to say about that, seeing as though 906 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: that seemed like that was the plan when he came in. 907 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: Um and not to say this is the end all 908 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: be all, but it was funny because even on like ESPN, 909 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: on their fantasy game, he is listed as a running back, 910 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: not as a wide receiver. If I had to guess, 911 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 1: they will give an answer that suggests that we're stupid 912 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 1: for suggesting it. I know they suggested it. Like they'll 913 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: say something that's like, well, you don't understand, but here's 914 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: why that's I'll I'll try to get a question in 915 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: for you. Let's see how goes. All right, appreciate you guys, Jonas. 916 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: We'll back tomorrow. We're gonna get you guys ready for 917 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Jaguars. I have this again tonight. Yeah yeah, 918 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: you guys are in the area, come check us out. 919 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: We'll be a concrete Cowboy tonight at six pm for 920 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: the Happy Hour, and it'll it'll be US three plus 921 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. We'll see how that goes anyway. For Nick, 922 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: even Dave Hellman I'm Derek Eagles and this has been 923 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: the Break live on Dallas cowboys dot Com. Grady year one. 924 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 925 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.