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Speaker 2: Hey, you know what some funny shit is though. It's
Speaker 2: this woman I guess that's tripping on this little kid
Speaker 2: in the park, right, a white woman, white woman, right,
Speaker 2: and she went off on a kid or whatever, and
Speaker 2: some dude some other brother recorded the right action. Foo.
Speaker 2: I guess you know, she was dropping the N word
Speaker 2: multiple times, you know, call him a little nia and
Speaker 2: he recorded her. You know that woman who raised six
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars already.
Speaker 1: Well, from what I heard, there was a.
Speaker 3: It's on some you know, white supremacist groups and people
Speaker 3: who support you.
Speaker 1: Know her.
Speaker 3: Whatever she you know, whatever she believes in whatever. So
Speaker 3: it's a lot of those people who raise money for her.
Speaker 3: That's how she's she's made. She's they they've raised over
Speaker 3: seven hundred thousand dollars for her, a few few extremist groups,
Speaker 3: white supremacists, people like that, you know, So you know.
Speaker 2: This is crazy, man. I guess this happened at Minnesota, right,
Speaker 2: I wonder why is the stuff like this don't ever
Speaker 2: happen in our neck of the wood.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you gotta try to figure out
Speaker 3: and understand what is the raising of the money for
Speaker 3: what is she potentially.
Speaker 1: Was gonna lose her job, gonna have to.
Speaker 3: Relocate, you know, you know what actually is the money
Speaker 3: being raised?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess because she now has to move because
Speaker 2: she has been so big that she has to move
Speaker 2: right now. And it's like even they even found out
Speaker 2: what she works out at. I guess this is in Rochester, Minnesota.
Speaker 2: And the kid that she was the kids, the kid
Speaker 2: is at the autistic Yeah, so she went off on
Speaker 2: an autistic kid. Ah, And then this is crazy. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna going to playing a video and everything else
Speaker 2: like this. I noticed that people are getting more and
Speaker 2: more uncomfortable then with really we're really using racial ship.
Speaker 1: You know, well, you know.
Speaker 3: It ain't that people been getting coming, people being comfortable
Speaker 3: with the ship for a long time.
Speaker 1: Now you get me.
Speaker 3: It's just that, you know, it's frowned upon more, you know,
Speaker 3: because it's now you know, social media.
Speaker 1: There we go, It's all good, keep talking, you know, social.
Speaker 3: Media and ship you know has elevated, you know, certain ship.
Speaker 3: But it's it ain't like it's uh like we a
Speaker 3: stranger to motherfuckers calling us the N word. I mean,
Speaker 3: we call each other niggas as as a gesture of
Speaker 3: friendship or homey ship or whatever. What's up my nigga?
Speaker 1: What's up? Won't? We won't. But you know.
Speaker 3: Now that we got the Internet and shit is being broadcast,
Speaker 3: that the light has frowned upon because it is you know,
Speaker 3: in terms when it's used upon different races, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's racial.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm just picturing the grown ass woman
Speaker 2: though calling a little artistic kid out of his name,
Speaker 2: and if I would have been at her through some
Speaker 2: hot coffee on that picture, well.
Speaker 3: You gotta understand. Well then you see now that comes
Speaker 3: into play of what your retaliation would cost you. You know,
Speaker 3: now that's physical retaliation. Now you facing jail time and
Speaker 3: lawsuits because you know, somebody done called you out your
Speaker 3: name or call the kid out the name something that
Speaker 3: we're not strangers to. You feel me, ain't nobody stranger
Speaker 3: that shit mo Funck. And then it depends on what
Speaker 3: neck of the woods you're living in, because there are
Speaker 3: those types of places that you know, you can find
Speaker 3: yourself in, those type of communities that are you know,
Speaker 3: predominantly Caucasian based, and you know, if you happen to,
Speaker 3: you know, find yourself upon those type of communities, then
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to deal properly with some of the
Speaker 3: repercussions of what they think of of us. You feel
Speaker 3: they've been thinking that's a long time still you've given.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I don't know if I through
Speaker 2: no hot coffee on her, man, but I ought to
Speaker 2: definitely check that bit. Her name is Charlie Little Hendrix,
Speaker 2: I guess, and she's saying that you need to relocate
Speaker 2: her family due to the response to the video. And
Speaker 2: I noticed many they haven't been you know, we've always
Speaker 2: had racist motherfuckers in this country, right as long as
Speaker 2: me and you've been walking deserving before us, right. But
Speaker 2: I do believe that white folks are more comfortable than
Speaker 2: ever was showing they as.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: You know, like I said, a lot of people feel
Speaker 3: that certain laws protect them in the right of believing
Speaker 3: in what they believe in.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we.
Speaker 3: Have a shit set up to where you know, we
Speaker 3: have racial crimes and shit like that. But I guess
Speaker 3: people be feeling like in her aspect as the freedom
Speaker 3: of speech allows her to call the motherfucker you know,
Speaker 3: a nigga. You know, she feels in her basis and
Speaker 3: how she was raised in the community she supports and
Speaker 3: the people that supports her, and what she believe in.
Speaker 3: She has that right to say that word if she
Speaker 3: wants to, like, you know, shit is you know, she
Speaker 3: feeling like what what it's if I can call the
Speaker 3: motherfucker that if I want to shit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we evidently she did, and she's about to be
Speaker 2: rewarded for it. She's about for sure to be rewarded
Speaker 2: for this race. You said, seven hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Now, I mean, like I said, unfortunately, like you know,
Speaker 3: it's still people who believe in that shit, you get me.
Speaker 1: It's people who still you know.
Speaker 3: Great grandparents and grandparents who you know, in embedded in
Speaker 3: them in the history of what they believe in, and
Speaker 3: it's just passed on and they're still communities and people
Speaker 3: who have the right to have these groups. You see,
Speaker 3: you know, niggas dressing up in their uniforms going out
Speaker 3: to protest that certain shit. So there's definitely still communities
Speaker 3: and people across the globe who are in support of
Speaker 3: that shit, and so they feel they probably feeling like
Speaker 3: she's a hero to them.
Speaker 2: It me they hate us, that bad man hate it
Speaker 2: scrowm as a motherfucker dog.
Speaker 1: Is is? Is it? Like you said?
Speaker 3: But is that support welcome in the black community as
Speaker 3: on the same aspect. You know, if if you were
Speaker 3: living in a in a white community and called a
Speaker 3: motherfucker out of eight, you know, you called a motherfucker
Speaker 3: that motherfucker word, or you know, something that they don't
Speaker 3: like or they despise. What the what the what the
Speaker 3: black community be in support of raising money to help
Speaker 3: you relocate your family in the situation of you might
Speaker 3: be caused harm or you know, it might be some
Speaker 3: bullshit going down. Do you think it would work vice versa.
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing, I don't know, you know what
Speaker 2: I think we would get like the fuck up, I
Speaker 2: think we would have issues.
Speaker 3: Do you think do you think the homies in the
Speaker 3: black community would get together and raise over seven hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars to donate to you if you was in
Speaker 3: the in the in the in the same situation.
Speaker 2: You know what, I don't know, man, because the little
Speaker 2: boy's family has raised six hundred thousand so far. The
Speaker 2: little boy there was the victim of this white woman.
Speaker 2: His family has raised six hundred thousand. The family told him,
Speaker 2: you know, people stopped giving them. They shut it down,
Speaker 2: you know. And what were they raising money for? Well,
Speaker 2: I guess somebody started raised decided to raise money on
Speaker 2: their behalf. Let me see how I tell you right now?
Speaker 2: They had decided to raise money on behalf of this
Speaker 2: kid write some organization. Let me see. Let me tell
Speaker 2: you right now. H uh huh. Because the guy that
Speaker 2: that busted out, right, But the guy that busted her out,
Speaker 2: they found out that he had a criminal pass or
Speaker 2: whatever the this is stuff he's been exonerated on, right. Uh,
Speaker 2: So he's had a little bit of backlashing. I guess
Speaker 2: they were raising money for, you know, the wellness of
Speaker 2: the little boy or whatever. This is how I feel
Speaker 2: about all this stuff. Man. I don't even know if
Speaker 2: we honestly will ever get through this racism shit. Man.
Speaker 2: I think people feel the fuck the way they feel,
Speaker 2: and that's what it is. I won't go as far
Speaker 2: as to say that we no longer have in America
Speaker 2: as black people, African Americans, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 2: but we will say that we got to start kind
Speaker 2: of just kind of hanging with our own I'm all
Speaker 2: about like creating our own shit. Man. I'm thinking like,
Speaker 2: and I'm nowhere and everybody any meanings racist? Man, I
Speaker 2: got white family members, right, But I do think that
Speaker 2: America has su you time again that there's more motherfuckers
Speaker 2: that think a fucked up way than not. You feel
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I think a lot of people of
Speaker 2: staying hiding, and when they get a chance to be
Speaker 2: anonymous with their racism, they exercise that. If it me
Speaker 2: and them sending some money to some bis that don't
Speaker 2: cut up, they do that. If it means them voting
Speaker 2: for a motherfucker that's go putting certain laws in place
Speaker 2: that could possibly impede me and you or hurt people
Speaker 2: like me and you, I think they win it, especially
Speaker 2: if they can do it behind closed doors. And so
Speaker 2: I really think, you know, to conquer that, man, I
Speaker 2: think that we need to start supporting our own. We
Speaker 2: need to start supporting black businesses, and we just stopped needed.
Speaker 2: We need to stop supporting motherfuckers that don't fuck with us.
Speaker 2: I don't know why people can't understand that. Man. If
Speaker 2: they don't fuck with us over at Target, stop shopping
Speaker 2: at Target, they don't support us over at If they
Speaker 2: acting a certain way to us at this place, stop
Speaker 2: supporting them. Yeah, I mean, I guess, But that's that's
Speaker 2: that's a that's a strong commitment for you know, people
Speaker 2: to make when you know some people are addicted to
Speaker 2: the walmarts and the Targets and these these these uh
Speaker 2: these places you feel me.
Speaker 3: So sometimes it might be hard, you know. You you
Speaker 3: might tell people let's boycott and let's do this and that,
Speaker 3: but most of the time motherfuckers is you know, That's
Speaker 3: why I be saying. You know, you could talk a
Speaker 3: good one to people, but it's hard to get people
Speaker 3: to join in and follow along, you know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying when when they're comfortable with those vices, you feel me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you being Have you ever experienced racism.
Speaker 3: If I ever experienced, I mean I've experienced racism to
Speaker 3: the point of uh racial profiling, you know, being a
Speaker 3: young black kid or a young y.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't all feel that. I'm talking about somebody
Speaker 2: just coming out.
Speaker 3: I've never had to deal with that, you know, Thank
Speaker 3: God that you know, I've been able to h stay
Speaker 3: amongst my peers, so to speak. I've never put never
Speaker 3: been in a situation to where I've encountered, uh, those
Speaker 3: type of people, you know, because you we come I
Speaker 3: come from a different walk of life. You get me,
Speaker 3: and I might not be necessarily the person that somebody
Speaker 3: might want to express their racial you know, their racial
Speaker 3: feelings towards you give me. Yea with us, we're going
Speaker 3: on tours and going to different towns and sections, and
Speaker 3: you know, always having security and homies with you. I've
Speaker 3: never uh come across someone who has been that blatant
Speaker 3: to just call us niggas or or you know, step
Speaker 3: out of line on some racial ship, because you know,
Speaker 3: in my earlier days that might have turned into physical
Speaker 3: violence for someone.
Speaker 1: You give me.
Speaker 2: I think I've seen I've had situations, man, when I
Speaker 2: was younger, right, especially living in Ohio to where I've
Speaker 2: had guys roller buck calling this, you know, screaming in
Speaker 2: the word out the window or whatever like that. I
Speaker 2: actually had an incident one time. We was in the
Speaker 2: Taco bell meaning the Homies, right, and we was with
Speaker 2: one of the Helmies, and the white homie knew karate
Speaker 2: like this dude really was a fool with it, right.
Speaker 2: That was the homy right right. And these white folks
Speaker 2: in there, I think they was at some Kinch State
Speaker 2: University students. They was in there, you know, saying derogatory shit,
Speaker 2: but in a different language, laughing, and he knew that,
Speaker 2: and he said, why don't you pussy said like say
Speaker 2: it in English. So we got into a melee in there.
Speaker 2: When I tell you that homies was kicking people upside
Speaker 2: the head, I'm talking about bras dudes. You know. We
Speaker 2: gave them white folks the business in there. We almost
Speaker 2: went to jail for that though, even though they started it,
Speaker 2: even though they kind of threw the first punch, we
Speaker 2: ended it, but we almost went to jail. They didn't
Speaker 2: give a fuck about us talking about what they said
Speaker 2: or this and that. They didn't give a damn. So
Speaker 2: hell Yeah, I've experienced that type of stuff, and I
Speaker 2: think would make it more crazy about states like California.
Speaker 2: I think it's a whole bunch of white folks to
Speaker 2: feel that way out here. But they know if they
Speaker 2: go to Lakewood, Comped, the Long Beach anywhere talking that shit,
Speaker 2: they might get s lived. That white woman would have
Speaker 2: said some shit like that in Gonzales Park or somewhere
Speaker 2: like that, she'd have got her ask.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But you know they're gonna and that's one thing about
Speaker 3: you know, their kind, they gonna stay in their community.
Speaker 3: What it is is you have to be careful about
Speaker 3: venturing into their neck of the woods, because they damn
Speaker 3: sure ain't gonna come to our neck of the woods.
Speaker 3: They ain'tn't come to count They ain't gonna come to
Speaker 3: Watch or South Central or or or the spots in
Speaker 3: Chicago or New York or wherever it's vicious. They gonna
Speaker 3: stay amongst themselves, now, you know, because being out of bounties,
Speaker 3: being slipping, and you know, they want to be comfortable
Speaker 3: in their own skin. So that's why they stay in
Speaker 3: their surroundings. It's it's just that when we you know,
Speaker 3: as African Americans, as Black people feel that we have
Speaker 3: the right to stay anywhere the fuck we want to,
Speaker 3: that we can afford, or we can whatever whatever. You know, Uh,
Speaker 3: it's it's us venturing into their nigative woods. It's where
Speaker 3: you are forced to deal with the recu repercussions of
Speaker 3: racism still because unfortunately, just like I had to tell
Speaker 3: my son, you know, it still exists.
Speaker 1: You get me, you know it's out there.
Speaker 3: You know, you can't be naive to the fact that
Speaker 3: even though you're black and proud and you know you
Speaker 3: can whoop a motherfucker's ass or that type of aspect
Speaker 3: you feeling, they feel just as strongly about. Hey, you know,
Speaker 3: if it's a nigga in my neck of the woods,
Speaker 3: and if I'm feeling a certain way.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna yell it out.
Speaker 3: You know, no telling what led up to the situation
Speaker 3: of her blurting out that shit you feel me to
Speaker 3: someone's kid. Yeah, well evidently she said the little boy
Speaker 3: wanting her kid's bag or whatever. Again, this kid you
Speaker 3: talking about an autistic kid. I have a nephew that's
Speaker 3: on the spectrum, right, and sometimes they'd like to do
Speaker 3: little things like my nephew if he makes you ate.
Speaker 3: He would come up and just touch your hands. You
Speaker 3: feel what I'm saying, that's how he kind of you know,
Speaker 3: that's what he does. You know, like he'd come up
Speaker 3: and touch my hands and grab my fingers whatever, I
Speaker 3: hold his hand or whatever. I just think, man, for
Speaker 3: people to treat a child that way, Man, it shouldn't
Speaker 3: be a place in society for nothing like that, because
Speaker 3: you know, white, black, green, and whatever a child.
Speaker 2: As a child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again we we are.
Speaker 3: We are acceptable to certain shit because we feel as
Speaker 3: adults we've come out of a lot of shit being
Speaker 3: black men. But like I said, some people just feel
Speaker 3: comfortable about the blatant, you know, racism that there is. Uh,
Speaker 3: some people just feel strongly about that shit. Like I said,
Speaker 3: you can get on the internet any day and see
Speaker 3: racism matter as full as you know. There's groups, there's websites,
Speaker 3: there's blogs. You know, it's just unfortunately, you know, it's
Speaker 3: something that we have we've had to come through. We
Speaker 3: feel strongly as a people about who we are as
Speaker 3: black people. You know, we can stand up for ourselves. Now,
Speaker 3: We'll whoop the motherfucker ass. And I dare you to
Speaker 3: say some shit but like again, these are people who
Speaker 3: feel strongly in their beliefs.
Speaker 1: Of they don't like us, you get me.
Speaker 3: And so for uh, you know, for you know, like
Speaker 3: you're saying, for it to be the situation of the
Speaker 3: little kid going in somebody's bag or whatever, which is
Speaker 3: which is? You know, you have to understand, uh, the
Speaker 3: the mentality of the child on the spectrum. So who
Speaker 3: knows she not knowing. But still it's not a case
Speaker 3: of her, you know, blatantly just calling him out his name, uh,
Speaker 3: not knowing what the what the situation is. You know again,
Speaker 3: you know the thing is possible. She feel comfortable, And
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this ship, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know what, bro, I've had situations to
Speaker 2: where I might be in the strummer, right, had a
Speaker 2: situation to where a little white boy and threw like
Speaker 2: a little car, one of them little toy cars. He
Speaker 2: threw it at me. Right, it didn't hurt, nothing kind
Speaker 2: of hit me. What was I gonna do? All off
Speaker 2: and slept the shout out the little boy a little kid.
Speaker 2: I just kept it pushing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Some pairs you know, the mom said, oh I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: and went on about her business. I wasn't tripping, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because who knows, you know what I'm saying. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: you like some people you I don't know. I don't know,
Speaker 2: Like I said, uh, I just think we losing our
Speaker 2: mind in this country. And I know you heard about
Speaker 2: this one man, the brother Rodney hitting junior man who
Speaker 2: ran over the who ran over the police officer behind
Speaker 2: his son getting shot.
Speaker 1: No, what's what's what's that?
Speaker 2: You haven't heard about that? Eight?
Speaker 1: I ain't heard about that one.
Speaker 2: Okay, this brother Ridney hitting junior and his son was
Speaker 2: shot dead by police right the night before and he
Speaker 2: just got denied bond and killing the sheriffs deputy. You know,
Speaker 2: after the disturbance in court. His son was evidently in
Speaker 2: some kind of incident in the stolen car whatever. I
Speaker 2: don't quite know the full details of it, right, but
Speaker 2: what it was, the police say his son had a
Speaker 2: gun whatever, which they can't see on the body camp
Speaker 2: for them, so they shot him right. Oh, boy was
Speaker 2: so mad he went after the next day and ran
Speaker 2: over a deputy. Now say that I've heard a few
Speaker 2: people say that it was the same guy that shot
Speaker 2: his son. One I've heard that it wasn't the same
Speaker 2: I heard. He just went and got a motherfucker. Right.
Speaker 2: If you would have saw this brother walking court man
Speaker 2: with all these it was a whole bunch of shrifs
Speaker 2: like standing in the road beside him, and he walked
Speaker 2: between them motherfuckers just goooning that. They asked like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I do I do something? This man is traumatized behind
Speaker 2: his son getting killed. He wasn't having it, but he's
Speaker 2: gonna whack the motherfucker. Now here's my thing? Where do
Speaker 2: I understand that father's anger? Do I understand this? Ain't
Speaker 2: you damn right? If somebody did something to any one
Speaker 2: of my kids, ain't no telling what I would do,
Speaker 2: ain't no telling what she would do? You probably this
Speaker 2: man probably have lost his mind, a step who had
Speaker 2: a mental break for short, right, But I see him
Speaker 2: making no difference, right. But I think it would have
Speaker 2: been viewed differently had it actually been the motherfu that
Speaker 2: shot his son. He's going to ring the motherfucker over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's tough right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real tough.
Speaker 3: Fuck that they recovered the gun that they said the
Speaker 3: kid had.
Speaker 2: No and they don't have bodycam footage here. There is
Speaker 2: shooting hip to it. I'm gonna I'm gonna read. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give it a low down on it. Rodney Hing Jr.
Speaker 2: Who authorities say intentionally hitting killed in Ohio sheriff's deputy
Speaker 2: with a car after his son was fatally shot by police,
Speaker 2: but remained in jail without bond while he a wasted
Speaker 2: trial and the murder chars King Jr. Was the ninth
Speaker 2: bond of the Twoday court hearing in Cincinnati. He has
Speaker 2: charged with aggravated murder for the main second killing of
Speaker 2: Hamilton County shriff Deputy Larry Henderson. There would be an
Speaker 2: order of the man with no bond. He is a
Speaker 2: shorter safety of the defender and any mental health treatment
Speaker 2: that he can be granted. Hamilton County Judge Tyrone Yates
Speaker 2: said the hearing is the things the building in the
Speaker 2: case that began last week in Cincinnati, police shot and
Speaker 2: killed Hnton Junior's son. Police said eighteen year old Ryan
Speaker 2: Hendon was one of four men who were fleeing at
Speaker 2: the officers found him in a stolen car, and that
Speaker 2: he was armed when he ran. Hing Junior's attorney Clyde
Speaker 2: Bending the second end of the plea of not guilt
Speaker 2: on his client's behalf and request Dell. During the two
Speaker 2: his hearing, Bennett asked for him Junior not to be
Speaker 2: thought of as a cop killer, but a person with
Speaker 2: mental illness. I don't think he was a cop killer.
Speaker 2: I think he's not in his right mind, Ben said,
Speaker 2: And I think he should be treated like any other
Speaker 2: mentally ill person that commits a crime under the auspicies, control,
Speaker 2: and authority of a mental defense in that condition. After
Speaker 2: the hearing begins, the turbans erupted in the gallery and
Speaker 2: Hiding Jr. Was rushed out of the courtroom by law enforcement.
Speaker 2: The man yelled, I just want my brother to see me.
Speaker 2: The hearing resumed after the man was esported out and
Speaker 2: Hing Jr. Was brought back into the courtroom. Bennett told
Speaker 2: Jameson for his acknowledgement, the man was not hitting Junior's brother.
Speaker 2: So if you would have sort of look on these
Speaker 2: police officers face, hey, you know how they are while
Speaker 2: nobody kills one of their own, right, I'm surprised one
Speaker 2: of them guys didn't pull a gun out. They hokster
Speaker 2: man to shoot that dude. The way they was looking at.
Speaker 3: Her, they didn't have a chance, because you definitely would
Speaker 3: have they would have roughed him up, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, once they got a hold of him.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of yeah, it's deep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that's a hard one right there, because as
Speaker 3: a father with a son, you know, there's there's no
Speaker 3: extent or length that you wouldn't go through to protect
Speaker 3: your son.
Speaker 1: And you know only you know the morale of your son.
Speaker 3: It's unfortunate that you know, like I said, we don't
Speaker 3: know what kind of lifestyle he was living. I mean,
Speaker 3: because for them to turn around and say he was
Speaker 3: with other dudes in a robbery and all that shit.
Speaker 3: But the thing is you you you don't have evidence
Speaker 3: of a weapon and you don't have bodycam footage. So
Speaker 3: that's what makes it suspicious on a father's behalf. You
Speaker 3: give me, I had no answers to why you shot
Speaker 3: my son. You you saying like you know and your
Speaker 3: your your evaluation of your son is like, my son
Speaker 3: ain't robbing no motherfucking body, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And he definitely had no pistol unless you know your
Speaker 3: son is in that lifestyle. So that's gonna that's gonna
Speaker 3: fuck up ship right there. Uh, And then when you
Speaker 3: looking for answers there or none, you give me why
Speaker 3: you shoot my son? You say he had a gun,
Speaker 3: but there's no gun found, and then you had no
Speaker 3: Now we got no body cam footage, So I don't
Speaker 3: know what the fuck y'all did. Y'all could have just
Speaker 3: jumped out and just start shooting my son on the
Speaker 3: active being on the aspect of being you know, paranoid cops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a whole bunch of look at and especially
Speaker 2: you know with this brother, I do think it's a
Speaker 2: mental illness thing. Man. You know, it's so much wrong
Speaker 2: on both sides of this. Right, you got the police
Speaker 2: once a youn' gunning down a brother they said they
Speaker 2: had a gun, that didn't have a gun, right, and
Speaker 2: you got to sheriff that has lost his life. You
Speaker 2: feel what I mean that that you know he's not
Speaker 2: coming home in his family now. I just think that
Speaker 2: whenever you had a loss of life on both sides,
Speaker 2: it's just a bad thing. I do think this is
Speaker 2: a mental illness thing on out and I hope that
Speaker 2: they don't look at this as a personal thing because
Speaker 2: I think this man on had a mental break. He
Speaker 2: lost his.
Speaker 3: Son, well, definitely out of a mental break. If it's
Speaker 3: thart process was, I'm gonna go out here, and who
Speaker 3: knows what it is. I don't want to say that
Speaker 3: they was planned. He could have been he could have
Speaker 3: been fucking rolling around one day and just seeing the police,
Speaker 3: you know, and and just snapped.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: My answer, because that's that's traumatic. You know, that's on
Speaker 3: any parent losing their kid in the situation of being
Speaker 3: shot and killed, you know, you know, and to be eighteen.
Speaker 3: You get me that that's devastating. I be devastated if
Speaker 3: something happened to my son, somebody shot and killed my
Speaker 3: son at eighteen years old.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to deal with it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I just hoping pray that
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna rebut that man, that me and
Speaker 2: you ever have to go through some shit like that,
Speaker 2: because I don't know how I processed that.
Speaker 1: Right, and so it's hard to say what his thought
Speaker 1: process was.
Speaker 3: And for the fact that you know, most of the
Speaker 3: times you deal with these situate, these these parents who
Speaker 3: deal with that aspect of their child going through that
Speaker 3: gang life and being murdered and a drive by and
Speaker 3: not getting answers or whatever. You know, this man had
Speaker 3: the police killed him.
Speaker 1: You get me. So you already gotten you know, there's
Speaker 1: already that.
Speaker 3: That love hate, you know, relationship that we as black
Speaker 3: people have with the police.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: A feeling being felt racial profile as a as a
Speaker 3: as a black man, and now knowing what you might
Speaker 3: have had to go through as a young motherfucker with
Speaker 3: the police. You just knowing in this day and age,
Speaker 3: you got an eighteen year old son, you could just
Speaker 3: imagine that situation right there.
Speaker 2: So man, and I imagine they you know, that's what
Speaker 2: I think God, that cats like me and you had
Speaker 2: certain attributes and talent and opportunities to allow us to
Speaker 2: take our kids out of those type of situations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's it's it's you can't prevent it. You
Speaker 1: get me.
Speaker 3: Growing up in the neighborhoods, you know, you gravitate to
Speaker 3: niggas in the neighborhood. You know, those be the niggas.
Speaker 3: You play football with the niggas, You ride bikes with
Speaker 3: the niggas. You you know, uh go to school with
Speaker 3: from from from elementary on up to high school and
Speaker 3: and and so it's hard to escape that when you're
Speaker 3: living in the neighborhood. It's a it's almost like a
Speaker 3: right the passage. You get me, And most of the
Speaker 3: time it don't even have to be family family affiliated.
Speaker 3: You get me or my brother was in the gang
Speaker 3: and then my cousin and wut you want? Sometimes just
Speaker 3: growing up in the hood and befriended niggas from your childhood.
Speaker 1: You know, a shit nigga.
Speaker 3: We was in the second grade together, fifth grade together,
Speaker 3: seventh grade together, tenth grade together, and then we live
Speaker 3: in around the corners from each other, in the same community,
Speaker 3: same neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Like I said, sometimes it's just to write a passage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you figure like this, right, our sons was
Speaker 2: raising suburbs, right, you know, places to where they can
Speaker 2: go to the movies at night, and just certain stuff
Speaker 2: wouldn't happen because your son could have been just an
Speaker 2: xority ride with some catching stolen car about man, he
Speaker 2: could have just been up. How many times have you
Speaker 2: found yourself cut up in situations? Dog to where was
Speaker 2: some dumb shit that she wasn't even aware of? Motherfucker
Speaker 2: homie ride by pick you up in a car that stolen.
Speaker 2: You don't want nothing. Body you just cruising. Next thing
Speaker 2: you know, he jumping out the car and everybody's running
Speaker 2: and you running. There are so many ways, man, we
Speaker 2: could have been cut up in the same situations coming up. Man.
Speaker 3: Man, I used to always even though you know, you
Speaker 3: try to raise your kids in different communities than what
Speaker 3: we was raised in, I still didn't put past nothing.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 3: I used to always tell them, watch out who you
Speaker 3: hang around. Don't be a follower, be a leader. You
Speaker 3: know shit, you know, because they're still motherfuckers, may be
Speaker 3: feeling like because of where you live, shit might be
Speaker 3: easier to get away with or get into.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 3: So I used to always tell them, you know, That's
Speaker 3: why I used to always try to keep them occupying
Speaker 3: you get me. That was one way I felt like,
Speaker 3: not in a sense of controlling, but I was able to,
Speaker 3: you know, vouch for and see a lot of shit
Speaker 3: you're getting. I saw the kids you was going to
Speaker 3: school with. I saw the kids that you was hanging around.
Speaker 3: Because I'm there mostly all the time, you're getting I'm
Speaker 3: gonna pick you up from school. You know, when you're
Speaker 3: in elementary school, when you get to motherfucking intermediate school.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm your football coach. So once you get
Speaker 3: out of school, you around me from the time. You know,
Speaker 3: you go to practice all day and then by time
Speaker 3: practice over we get home nine o'clock, it's time to
Speaker 3: go to bid your friends. You developed through school and
Speaker 3: through fucking playing sports, so I was able to be
Speaker 3: a part of that. You know, growing up in the hood. Shit,
Speaker 3: my influences was the niggas on the corner. It wasn't
Speaker 3: the niggas out, you know, playing sports with and shit,
Speaker 3: even though I tried that aspect. But growing up in
Speaker 3: the hood were just moms and my sister and he
Speaker 3: influences what I saw on the block. You know, it
Speaker 3: wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't hard for me to get
Speaker 3: into the gang lifestyle because I was influenced by that.
Speaker 3: So you have to be careful about, you know, your
Speaker 3: surroundings and where you live in and all that. And
Speaker 3: people don't think that, but being a product of your
Speaker 3: environment is big. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: It's everything, man, And that's why I thought it was
Speaker 2: still important.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I made it actually, when I became my father, I
Speaker 2: made it my mission to move my kids upbout the
Speaker 2: neighborhood where they would never have to be subject to
Speaker 2: certain things because it's just ante occurrence. Man, that's not occurrence,
Speaker 2: you know, And you know they're sticking to man that
Speaker 2: they didn't you know that this kid had a gun. Again,
Speaker 2: there's no gun on the body cam fat you know footage.
Speaker 2: They say it's real graining and blurry that you can't
Speaker 2: see nothing right. And I'm not one of those people
Speaker 2: that hate the police, man, but it seemed like we
Speaker 2: do drop disproportionately.
Speaker 3: As as as as I said, growing up in the
Speaker 3: community like Compton and the stories you you hear as
Speaker 3: a child, or what you see or what you're able
Speaker 3: to you know, uh, what you're able to witness for
Speaker 3: yourself now with the help of documentaries and you know,
Speaker 3: youtubes and internets and whatever, we as black people have.
Speaker 1: A sour taste in our mouth behind police.
Speaker 2: That's why I you know, listen to this though bro
Speaker 2: On cross examination by Bennett, BB said he would assume
Speaker 2: Hiding Junior's source of the agitation, as Bennett put it,
Speaker 2: was watching the body camera video. Nelson argued him Jors
Speaker 2: in his current state is a giant mental health question
Speaker 2: mark has clear and present danger and possessed impose the
Speaker 2: substantial risk of physical hard and law enforcement officers into
Speaker 2: the public is evidenced by his conduct. While Ben pointing
Speaker 2: out that Hinting Juniors lacks any previous felt in conventions,
Speaker 2: live in the area, and has family ties to judge
Speaker 2: fort him to be held without bond, find it very
Speaker 2: difficult to figure out how there could be any decision
Speaker 2: based on what they said that would protect the public
Speaker 2: and the defendant under these circumstances. Jay said his next
Speaker 2: courdidate is May twelve.
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with the judge.
Speaker 2: I think, in this mental state, man, who's to say
Speaker 2: he won't get out and go run over twenty more people? Right?
Speaker 2: This man is pissed off, he's you don't know what
Speaker 2: state he's in. But I wouldn't keep him in jail.
Speaker 2: I would put him somewhere for mental evaluation. That's what
Speaker 2: he should be. You tell you, you know, when a
Speaker 2: person is sick, you take him to the hospital, right right,
Speaker 2: this man is probably experienced in grief. He has never
Speaker 2: filed in his life before. Dog they said, the man
Speaker 2: don't have no This is not a man who's just
Speaker 2: been fucking up this whole life. This is a man
Speaker 2: who lost his son and he's probably experience of grief
Speaker 2: to the tenth power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they not on But because of the fact
Speaker 3: that he's killed a police officer, they're not going to
Speaker 3: go We're not going to give you no mental route.
Speaker 1: Get me, We're not you know, they're not gonna.
Speaker 3: He could have did anything but killed a police officer,
Speaker 3: you get me. He could have ran over a you know,
Speaker 3: or went out and you know, killed the person that
Speaker 3: you I mean, I don't know, but killing the police
Speaker 3: officers on a different level of of of of what
Speaker 3: they see fit. And we're not going to let you
Speaker 3: ride a mental case when you then killed a police officers.
Speaker 3: It's not going to work. So unfortunately, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: his mental state was broken for the fact that first
Speaker 3: of all, my son is dead. Second of all, he
Speaker 3: was killed by a police officer. Third, we as black
Speaker 3: people already have a bad outlook on the police as
Speaker 3: far as killing black people. So there you have another
Speaker 3: case of the police, you know, doing bodily harm to
Speaker 3: another young black man.
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen the cases over and over again.
Speaker 1: Then it shit.
Speaker 3: You can keep naming the issues you got no bodycam footage.
Speaker 3: Where's the gun that you said? So, where's the pistol?
Speaker 3: If you're saying he drew down on you and he
Speaker 3: had a gun, where's the body Oh so all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, nobody cam footage is grainy as blurry, but
Speaker 3: there should be a weapon still, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Exactly, And I would be remiss to say that this
Speaker 2: dad probably wouldn't have acted that way had he so
Speaker 2: is soon pull out a gun. But I'm imagining this
Speaker 2: man looking at body cam for he's wondering why they
Speaker 2: shoot my gun? He posed no danger to them? Why
Speaker 2: did they kill my son?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's that's that's you know, that's most
Speaker 3: of the time, anytime the police is involved in a
Speaker 3: in a in a shooting where there's a victim of
Speaker 3: of of minority issues, you get me Blacks, Mexicans. It's
Speaker 3: always the question of why you get me? Isn't that
Speaker 3: so common with us that it's almost too common?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 3: When it when it involves the police and the victim
Speaker 3: of color, it's always the aspect of why, and people
Speaker 3: speak up on well, he wasn't no crazed as maniac
Speaker 3: or his mental state. You know a lot of times
Speaker 3: he was mentor or you know, the police didn't understand
Speaker 3: he had a prime or whatever. H No, I mean
Speaker 3: it's always question, like I said, when it comes to
Speaker 3: the so so like for him and his mental status.
Speaker 1: You never know.
Speaker 3: But they're not going to give him the pleasure of
Speaker 3: going to a mental institution and you know, working over
Speaker 3: the aggravations of him dealing with these These are the
Speaker 3: people who killed my son. And I'm deal with and
Speaker 3: answer questions every day to why, and nobody can give
Speaker 3: me answers, you get me. So Yeah, like I said,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say that he premeditated to go out
Speaker 3: and fuck that they killed my son. I'm finna kill
Speaker 3: one of them, you get me. He could have been
Speaker 3: driving down the street one day, had a break down,
Speaker 3: saw police and just snapped.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and that's my thing. Hey, it's a
Speaker 2: sad situation.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I feel sorry man for that brother. I feel sorry
Speaker 2: for his family. I feel feel sorry for the officer
Speaker 2: that got ran over dog. You know, it's a lot
Speaker 2: of people that's gonna be damaged by this. It ain't
Speaker 2: none of it good, you.
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, because you know, I'm pretty sure the dude
Speaker 3: had a family the officer. And you know, if if
Speaker 3: he wasn't involved in this tragedy, uh, that just make
Speaker 3: him an innocent victim.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying. You know, I try to
Speaker 2: tell Glasses and I tell people be careful on putting
Speaker 2: false narratives out there. Glasses told me, no, that was
Speaker 2: the man that they shot his son. Dude, First of all,
Speaker 2: that wasn't the man that shot his son. The man
Speaker 2: that shot his son would have been placed on administrative
Speaker 2: lead peop wouldn't have been off the directing no traffic
Speaker 2: the next day. I don't think me not. You feel
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He wouldn't have been out there just
Speaker 2: directing traffic the next day.
Speaker 3: You know, this was this is this was an incident
Speaker 3: of of like what they call crimes of passion. Like
Speaker 3: I didn't plan to kill a motherfucker. I didn't plan
Speaker 3: on a motherfucker getting hurt. It's just that I was
Speaker 3: so overwhelmed with grief and then I'm I'm I'm probably
Speaker 3: sitting at a light, you know what I'm saying, grieving
Speaker 3: so bad and and and can't deal with the motherfucking
Speaker 3: pressure of it. And then there before me is a
Speaker 3: motherfucker out directing traffic.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly.
Speaker 3: That's no different of of you being in the courtroom
Speaker 3: and they got the motherfucker who then killed your son
Speaker 3: on the mother fucking you know, sitting in the shit
Speaker 3: and you're gonna snap, You're gonna try to get to
Speaker 3: that motherfucker. We've seen it numerous times on crime shows.
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers killer relative or a son or a daughter, and
Speaker 3: the daddy or the brother or somebody coming there and
Speaker 3: the first thing they do is take a leap of
Speaker 3: faith to try to get their hands on the motherfucker.
Speaker 3: So who knows how dad was feeling about the loss
Speaker 3: of his son.
Speaker 2: And you know, you were smart, dude, bro, just by
Speaker 2: seeing that that whole thing was a particular homicide. Lets
Speaker 2: you know right there that he wasn't probably planning on
Speaker 2: killing nobody. He was driving so that officer and just
Speaker 2: want to hit his ads.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you're saying, it's a spare of the
Speaker 3: moment crime and passion. I'm in the heat of passion
Speaker 3: type shit, like I didn't wake up this morning and
Speaker 3: going I'm finna just go you get me.
Speaker 2: Like when you do stuff like that, you always a
Speaker 2: state you can get guns real eas it. You got
Speaker 2: access to gun, I please it or right, But but
Speaker 2: still look at the way that the crime that went down.
Speaker 3: It was a traffic type of shit where nigga was
Speaker 3: out directing traffic and he got hit. You know, the
Speaker 3: nigga didn't wake up this morning like I'm finna drive
Speaker 3: around and look for motherfuckers directing traffic and whoever I find,
Speaker 3: I'm finna.
Speaker 1: Just get me. No.
Speaker 3: I woke up grieving missing my son, having real hateful,
Speaker 3: real you know, towards the police department. I'm not getting
Speaker 3: no answers. I'm grieving, I'm grieving, I'm so hurt. I
Speaker 3: don't know what the fuck to do. I'm at that
Speaker 3: point of no return, like I don't know these motherfucking
Speaker 3: now my mother. The fucking hatred towards the police is
Speaker 3: just getting more and more and more as every day
Speaker 3: passes with no answers of why my son was killed.
Speaker 3: And now I just happened to be able to stop
Speaker 3: light and the motherfucker's directing traffic and I'm and it
Speaker 3: just overwhelms me to where, yeah, because I can't see
Speaker 3: him trying to execute that crime and know he gon
Speaker 3: get cut. Right he was planning it, I would have think, Okay, man,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get my art and I'm gonna get my
Speaker 3: ear fifteen. I'm just gonna post up on this building
Speaker 3: across street and the police station, and as soon as
Speaker 3: I do, come on, I'm gonna go them have it.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna be three blocks up the roads.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of times the motherfuckers with plans planning
Speaker 3: to get away, right, Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna plan some shit out to get caught.
Speaker 3: If I'm planning some ship, I plan to get the
Speaker 3: fuck away. So you know, if if if I just
Speaker 3: wake up this morning, jump in my car and decide
Speaker 3: like fuck it, I see somebody.
Speaker 1: And that's it, then.
Speaker 3: There's there's there's a chance I'm gonna get caught at
Speaker 3: the scene, or a motherfucker gonna follow me, or they
Speaker 3: got a description of the.
Speaker 1: Vehicle and all that.
Speaker 3: You know, when you make a plan, you plan to
Speaker 3: go scott free, or you plan to get away with
Speaker 3: the crime. So it's gonna be thought out a little
Speaker 3: bit more than just you know, barreling through an intersection
Speaker 3: and taking somebody's life.
Speaker 1: You get me that that's that's not a plan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's said, man, it's said, you know what I
Speaker 2: want to ask you though, Man, you know, prayers man
Speaker 2: for that man and his family. Man, and they share
Speaker 2: his family as they go through this ordeal, man, because
Speaker 2: this is quite one of the most fun the things
Speaker 2: I don't seen in the world. Though. It's just said, like.
Speaker 3: I said, it's it's a it's a fucked up situation.
Speaker 3: And like I said, I've had run ins with the police. Uh,
Speaker 3: so I can understand, uh as a father, his his
Speaker 3: blatant hatred towards the situation.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: But then again, you know, a motherfucker who got up
Speaker 3: this morning to go you know, direct traffic probably wasn't
Speaker 3: thinking like today a motherfucker finn come through here and
Speaker 3: hit me and take me away from my family and kids.
Speaker 2: And they said the dude exactly, And they said the
Speaker 2: dude had been in the force for a long time,
Speaker 2: so if he were doing traffic duty, that meant he
Speaker 2: was like at that stage of his career to where
Speaker 2: he's doing kickback stuff. He cat.
Speaker 3: I'm winding down, you know, out here patrolling and looking
Speaker 3: for drug dealers and gang bangers and doing all that shit.
Speaker 3: I'm doing traffic stops and motherfucking directed traffic when lights
Speaker 3: and accidents go down.
Speaker 1: So you know, like.
Speaker 3: It's just unfortunately, I said, We've had our runnings with
Speaker 3: the police. We've had, you know, difficult situations of just
Speaker 3: being a black man and getting profiled and you know
Speaker 3: and all that.
Speaker 1: But you know, I know dudes who are police officers.
Speaker 1: You know, I've coached with dudes whose.
Speaker 3: Sons have played on my teams who have been officers,
Speaker 3: and you know, you've gotten no dudes and dudes have
Speaker 3: been cool. You know, It's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: I grew up in a.
Speaker 3: Time where you know, gang banging and being black and
Speaker 3: being profiled in the area where which was considered.
Speaker 1: You know, hostile is what I had to go through.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't I.
Speaker 3: Don't consider you know, where I live or where you
Speaker 3: know I raised my son that I'm gonna go through
Speaker 3: a situation of being at the liquor store getting profiled
Speaker 3: or whatever. I look to be treated as a regular.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, man, you feel me color of my skin,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: So, Uh, nobody wishes that motherfucker who got up and
Speaker 3: punched the clock this morning lose their life because you
Speaker 3: said it's unfortunate. He just happened to be a part
Speaker 3: of a membership. You get me. That's like, you know,
Speaker 3: not to make jokes, but that's just like game life.
Speaker 3: You feel me, Nigga, come when smoked one of the
Speaker 3: homies ship were gonna go through, and unfortunately, if you're
Speaker 3: part of that, that game, you might lose your life.
Speaker 3: You it might you you might not beating who came
Speaker 3: through and killed the homie, but you're still representing from
Speaker 3: over there. So if we come through and you just
Speaker 3: happen to be a motherfucker out there, you gonna get
Speaker 3: caught too. Bully, Bully don't got no name. You feel me,
Speaker 3: you're part of that motherfucker is set. So one of
Speaker 3: y'all did it, and that's unfortunately. You know, That's how
Speaker 3: my man looked at it, you know, And I think
Speaker 3: it was some I think it was some spur of
Speaker 3: the moment. But man, in our last few minutes, man,
Speaker 3: I want to get into something a little bit lighter.
Speaker 3: You've been in the entertainment game a long time, man,
Speaker 3: do you think the Kanye is.
Speaker 2: Losing it a little bit as far as what his
Speaker 2: rants and all. Yeah, like it don't like something's mentally
Speaker 2: wrong with him.
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody you know, uh.
Speaker 3: Has had you know, has questioned his his his state
Speaker 3: since the passing of his mother. You get me, And
Speaker 3: we don't know, you know, how what that did to
Speaker 3: his mental state. A lot of people have he and
Speaker 3: shit that goes on. I don't know if the nigga
Speaker 3: taken drugs or you know, we don't know if he's
Speaker 3: just whatever. There hasn't been any real professional diagnosis of
Speaker 3: his condition, you get me. So people let Kanye be
Speaker 3: and just let him run his mouth, because again, he
Speaker 3: is a nigga sitting on a billion dollars. So a
Speaker 3: lot of times when you're in those positions, people that
Speaker 3: you rant for some reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said he went off on Piers Morgan on
Speaker 2: his show, and I wonder sometimes how this is impacting
Speaker 2: his record seals, if they are impacting his record seals.
Speaker 3: I know, I don't need to sell a record. I
Speaker 3: already got a billion dollars. What else do I need
Speaker 3: to do at this point? I'm just doing shit to
Speaker 3: be doing it, you get me. And that's what he does.
Speaker 3: He does shit just to be doing it. When you
Speaker 3: and nigga that's sitting on a billion dollars when you
Speaker 3: a nigga that's sitting on five hundred million dollars, Like, like,
Speaker 3: what do you really need to do?
Speaker 2: Ever?
Speaker 1: Again?
Speaker 3: If you have someone that's in your just one motherfucker
Speaker 3: who's smart enough to know, let me do this, let
Speaker 3: me put this up, let's do this, let me do this.
Speaker 3: You know somebody like you, For instance, if you was
Speaker 3: around a motherfucker who was sitting on a billion dollars
Speaker 3: and they people thought they was crazy as fucking all
Speaker 3: kind of whatever whatever, but you had the mind state
Speaker 3: you have as.
Speaker 1: A good dude, there's always gonna be some security.
Speaker 2: You get me.
Speaker 1: Nigga's never gonna go broke. It's always gonna you get
Speaker 1: me this this.
Speaker 3: I don't give fuck if the nigga never sold another
Speaker 3: record or made another teny shoe. He has made enough
Speaker 3: motherfucking money to where if there's the right person around.
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep that shit going forever. You feel me?
Speaker 3: So, like, really, like when you say, does it fuck
Speaker 3: with his record sales? Or does it fuck with his
Speaker 3: shoe sales? Or does it fuck with Kanye been ranting
Speaker 3: and raven for about the last ten years now, what
Speaker 3: has it fucked with?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 2: Because he's still around here, random Raven.
Speaker 1: He like, again, he's been rand and raving for about
Speaker 1: the last ten years.
Speaker 3: What has it from the time he started jumping on
Speaker 3: the stages and said motherfucking bushing him didn't like black people.
Speaker 1: And all that crazy shit, what has it stopped? Financially? Financially,
Speaker 1: what has it stopped?
Speaker 2: It ain't really stop nothing. Speaking of financially, you know,
Speaker 2: Jay said he lost almost two hundred million dollars because
Speaker 2: you know, he's suing that girl. He's like, has he
Speaker 2: has a lossuit going on with the girl who accused
Speaker 2: him of rape and that attorney right right right, and
Speaker 2: he's going after them. Ole said he lost two hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars messing with that man, like because of that
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you gotta figure business deals and investors and
Speaker 3: people like that are gonna be afraid to fuck with
Speaker 3: you on certain shit so you can have deals on
Speaker 3: the table. Nigga worked millions and people are gonna pull
Speaker 3: out certain shit, you get.
Speaker 2: It just just because of the word, not necessarily because
Speaker 2: it's true or no facts behind it. They just go
Speaker 2: this is themselves because don't nobody want to get caught
Speaker 2: up in the beginning.
Speaker 3: That's like you, you sitting on a you sitting on
Speaker 3: a billion couple of billion dollar corporation. You're finna invest
Speaker 3: in this dude, and you fina hand this dude one
Speaker 3: hundred million. Right before you finish hand him one hundred million,
Speaker 3: you hear an allegation of rape and all this stupid
Speaker 3: shit with Puffy and whatever. Whatever, you're finna give him
Speaker 3: a hundred million.
Speaker 2: You know what, Probably not, man, it probably wouldn't be
Speaker 2: a good business move.
Speaker 1: That's what you're gonna say.
Speaker 3: At this time, we're gonna hold off and we're gonna
Speaker 3: see how this played out, and then maybe on in
Speaker 3: the future down the road, will will look back into
Speaker 3: this venture. But at this time I don't want to
Speaker 3: invest a hundred million getting into a motherfucker who somebody
Speaker 3: say rape them, that that ugly.
Speaker 2: Ho hoves go sue the ship off this woman. Man,
Speaker 2: he's a serious whether whether if whether it comes out true,
Speaker 2: I mean not true, and you didn't do it whatever,
Speaker 2: Just the stain of of of me going through with
Speaker 2: the deal while this is going on, it's gonna have
Speaker 2: me being frowned upon by certain people, like like he
Speaker 2: supposedly did this and you gave him a hundred million,
Speaker 2: Like how dare you? Like you invest in rapists and
Speaker 2: shit like that. So now I can't do that shit.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep my one hundred million right now.
Speaker 3: And like I said, maybe down the road will come
Speaker 3: back around when it's when the funk then died out
Speaker 3: and not too many people or you know, but while
Speaker 3: this whole thing is going on, and you might not
Speaker 3: be involved or it might be false allegations. But with
Speaker 3: the puffy shit and then all this other shit, I
Speaker 3: can't get my hands on. I can't touch that hot
Speaker 3: potato right now.
Speaker 2: And that's why I really think they need to start
Speaker 2: having stifferd penalties for people with these false claims of
Speaker 2: slander people's names and then you know, coming out with
Speaker 2: stuff just to try to gain some money for monetary games.
Speaker 2: I think those people need to have criminal charges brought against.
Speaker 3: Them what some people do when it comes to blackmail
Speaker 3: and doing shit like that. But that's the new aspect
Speaker 3: of shit today. The new aspect of shit is it
Speaker 3: don't have to be true. All I have to do
Speaker 3: is bring up the accusations that it might have happened,
Speaker 3: and it's gonna it you know it didn't happen, but
Speaker 3: then there's gonna be a motherfucker that tell you maybe
Speaker 3: you just want to pay this motherfucker off about five
Speaker 3: or ten million because you.
Speaker 2: They fuck there. You see the shit going on with
Speaker 2: Shannon Shot right.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm saying you don't want that stain because look
Speaker 3: at what happens in the backlash of just the accusation.
Speaker 1: There ain't been no court coming out yet.
Speaker 3: Everything is just being settle settled because once it comes out,
Speaker 3: these million dollar motherfuckers, they ain't gonna want to fuck
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 1: So just think about it. Get a bit five million,
Speaker 1: so she just go away.
Speaker 3: If you saying did nothing happen and everything was consentu fine,
Speaker 3: but but the stain of going through the process is
Speaker 3: gonna fuck you because people are gonna start doing this
Speaker 3: with your contracts.
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