WEBVTT - Is Rodney Hinton Jr. Insane From Grief?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know what some funny shit is though. It's

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<v Speaker 2>this woman I guess that's tripping on this little kid

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<v Speaker 2>in the park, right, a white woman, white woman, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and she went off on a kid or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 2>some dude some other brother recorded the right action. Foo.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you know, she was dropping the N word

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<v Speaker 2>multiple times, you know, call him a little nia and

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<v Speaker 2>he recorded her. You know that woman who raised six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars already.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, from what I heard, there was a.

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<v Speaker 3>It's on some you know, white supremacist groups and people

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<v Speaker 3>who support you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know her.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever she you know, whatever she believes in whatever. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of those people who raise money for her.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how she's she's made. She's they they've raised over

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<v Speaker 3>seven hundred thousand dollars for her, a few few extremist groups,

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<v Speaker 3>white supremacists, people like that, you know, So you know.

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<v Speaker 2>This is crazy, man. I guess this happened at Minnesota, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder why is the stuff like this don't ever

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<v Speaker 2>happen in our neck of the wood.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, you gotta try to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>and understand what is the raising of the money for

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<v Speaker 3>what is she potentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Was gonna lose her job, gonna have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Relocate, you know, you know what actually is the money

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<v Speaker 3>being raised?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess because she now has to move because

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<v Speaker 2>she has been so big that she has to move

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<v Speaker 2>right now. And it's like even they even found out

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<v Speaker 2>what she works out at. I guess this is in Rochester, Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>And the kid that she was the kids, the kid

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<v Speaker 2>is at the autistic Yeah, so she went off on

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<v Speaker 2>an autistic kid. Ah, And then this is crazy. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna going to playing a video and everything else

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<v Speaker 2>like this. I noticed that people are getting more and

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<v Speaker 2>more uncomfortable then with really we're really using racial ship.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, well, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It ain't that people been getting coming, people being comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>with the ship for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you get me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just that, you know, it's frowned upon more, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's now you know, social media.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go, It's all good, keep talking, you know, social.

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<v Speaker 3>Media and ship you know has elevated, you know, certain ship.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's it ain't like it's uh like we a

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<v Speaker 3>stranger to motherfuckers calling us the N word. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we call each other niggas as as a gesture of

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<v Speaker 3>friendship or homey ship or whatever. What's up my nigga?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Won't? We won't. But you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that we got the Internet and shit is being broadcast,

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<v Speaker 3>that the light has frowned upon because it is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in terms when it's used upon different races, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's racial.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel me.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I'm just picturing the grown ass woman

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<v Speaker 2>though calling a little artistic kid out of his name,

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<v Speaker 2>and if I would have been at her through some

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<v Speaker 2>hot coffee on that picture, well.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta understand. Well then you see now that comes

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<v Speaker 3>into play of what your retaliation would cost you. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>now that's physical retaliation. Now you facing jail time and

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<v Speaker 3>lawsuits because you know, somebody done called you out your

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<v Speaker 3>name or call the kid out the name something that

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<v Speaker 3>we're not strangers to. You feel me, ain't nobody stranger

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<v Speaker 3>that shit mo Funck. And then it depends on what

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<v Speaker 3>neck of the woods you're living in, because there are

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<v Speaker 3>those types of places that you know, you can find

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<v Speaker 3>yourself in, those type of communities that are you know,

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<v Speaker 3>predominantly Caucasian based, and you know, if you happen to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, find yourself upon those type of communities, then

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna have to deal properly with some of the

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<v Speaker 3>repercussions of what they think of of us. You feel

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<v Speaker 3>they've been thinking that's a long time still you've given.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what, I don't know if I through

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<v Speaker 2>no hot coffee on her, man, but I ought to

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<v Speaker 2>definitely check that bit. Her name is Charlie Little Hendrix,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, and she's saying that you need to relocate

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<v Speaker 2>her family due to the response to the video. And

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed many they haven't been you know, we've always

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<v Speaker 2>had racist motherfuckers in this country, right as long as

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<v Speaker 2>me and you've been walking deserving before us, right. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe that white folks are more comfortable than

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<v Speaker 2>ever was showing they as.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like I said, a lot of people feel

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<v Speaker 3>that certain laws protect them in the right of believing

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<v Speaker 3>in what they believe in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a shit set up to where you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>have racial crimes and shit like that. But I guess

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<v Speaker 3>people be feeling like in her aspect as the freedom

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<v Speaker 3>of speech allows her to call the motherfucker you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a nigga. You know, she feels in her basis and

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<v Speaker 3>how she was raised in the community she supports and

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<v Speaker 3>the people that supports her, and what she believe in.

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<v Speaker 3>She has that right to say that word if she

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<v Speaker 3>wants to, like, you know, shit is you know, she

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<v Speaker 3>feeling like what what it's if I can call the

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<v Speaker 3>motherfucker that if I want to shit?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we evidently she did, and she's about to be

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<v Speaker 2>rewarded for it. She's about for sure to be rewarded

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<v Speaker 2>for this race. You said, seven hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I mean, like I said, unfortunately, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's still people who believe in that shit, you get me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's people who still you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Great grandparents and grandparents who you know, in embedded in

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<v Speaker 3>them in the history of what they believe in, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just passed on and they're still communities and people

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<v Speaker 3>who have the right to have these groups. You see,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, niggas dressing up in their uniforms going out

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<v Speaker 3>to protest that certain shit. So there's definitely still communities

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<v Speaker 3>and people across the globe who are in support of

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<v Speaker 3>that shit, and so they feel they probably feeling like

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<v Speaker 3>she's a hero to them.

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<v Speaker 2>It me they hate us, that bad man hate it

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<v Speaker 2>scrowm as a motherfucker dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Is is? Is it? Like you said?

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<v Speaker 3>But is that support welcome in the black community as

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<v Speaker 3>on the same aspect. You know, if if you were

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<v Speaker 3>living in a in a white community and called a

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<v Speaker 3>motherfucker out of eight, you know, you called a motherfucker

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<v Speaker 3>that motherfucker word, or you know, something that they don't

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<v Speaker 3>like or they despise. What the what the what the

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<v Speaker 3>black community be in support of raising money to help

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<v Speaker 3>you relocate your family in the situation of you might

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<v Speaker 3>be caused harm or you know, it might be some

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<v Speaker 3>bullshit going down. Do you think it would work vice versa.

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<v Speaker 2>See, that's the thing, I don't know, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I think we would get like the fuck up, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we would have issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think do you think the homies in the

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<v Speaker 3>black community would get together and raise over seven hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars to donate to you if you was in

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<v Speaker 3>the in the in the in the same situation.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I don't know, man, because the little

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<v Speaker 2>boy's family has raised six hundred thousand so far. The

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<v Speaker 2>little boy there was the victim of this white woman.

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<v Speaker 2>His family has raised six hundred thousand. The family told him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people stopped giving them. They shut it down,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And what were they raising money for? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess somebody started raised decided to raise money on

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<v Speaker 2>their behalf. Let me see how I tell you right now?

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<v Speaker 2>They had decided to raise money on behalf of this

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<v Speaker 2>kid write some organization. Let me see. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 2>you right now. H uh huh. Because the guy that

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<v Speaker 2>that busted out, right, But the guy that busted her out,

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<v Speaker 2>they found out that he had a criminal pass or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the this is stuff he's been exonerated on, right. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>So he's had a little bit of backlashing. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they were raising money for, you know, the wellness of

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<v Speaker 2>the little boy or whatever. This is how I feel

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<v Speaker 2>about all this stuff. Man. I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 2>we honestly will ever get through this racism shit. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people feel the fuck the way they feel,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what it is. I won't go as far

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<v Speaker 2>as to say that we no longer have in America

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<v Speaker 2>as black people, African Americans, whatever you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 2>but we will say that we got to start kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just kind of hanging with our own I'm all

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<v Speaker 2>about like creating our own shit. Man. I'm thinking like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm nowhere and everybody any meanings racist? Man, I

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<v Speaker 2>got white family members, right, But I do think that

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<v Speaker 2>America has su you time again that there's more motherfuckers

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<v Speaker 2>that think a fucked up way than not. You feel

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. I think a lot of people of

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<v Speaker 2>staying hiding, and when they get a chance to be

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<v Speaker 2>anonymous with their racism, they exercise that. If it me

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<v Speaker 2>and them sending some money to some bis that don't

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<v Speaker 2>cut up, they do that. If it means them voting

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<v Speaker 2>for a motherfucker that's go putting certain laws in place

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<v Speaker 2>that could possibly impede me and you or hurt people

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<v Speaker 2>like me and you, I think they win it, especially

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<v Speaker 2>if they can do it behind closed doors. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I really think, you know, to conquer that, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that we need to start supporting our own. We

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<v Speaker 2>need to start supporting black businesses, and we just stopped needed.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to stop supporting motherfuckers that don't fuck with us.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why people can't understand that. Man. If

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<v Speaker 2>they don't fuck with us over at Target, stop shopping

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<v Speaker 2>at Target, they don't support us over at If they

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<v Speaker 2>acting a certain way to us at this place, stop

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<v Speaker 2>supporting them. Yeah, I mean, I guess, But that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's a that's a strong commitment for you know, people

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<v Speaker 2>to make when you know some people are addicted to

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<v Speaker 2>the walmarts and the Targets and these these these uh

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<v Speaker 2>these places you feel me.

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<v Speaker 3>So sometimes it might be hard, you know. You you

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<v Speaker 3>might tell people let's boycott and let's do this and that,

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<v Speaker 3>but most of the time motherfuckers is you know, That's

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<v Speaker 3>why I be saying. You know, you could talk a

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<v Speaker 3>good one to people, but it's hard to get people

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<v Speaker 3>to join in and follow along, you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>saying when when they're comfortable with those vices, you feel me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now you being Have you ever experienced racism.

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<v Speaker 3>If I ever experienced, I mean I've experienced racism to

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<v Speaker 3>the point of uh racial profiling, you know, being a

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<v Speaker 3>young black kid or a young y.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't all feel that. I'm talking about somebody

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<v Speaker 2>just coming out.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never had to deal with that, you know, Thank

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<v Speaker 3>God that you know, I've been able to h stay

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<v Speaker 3>amongst my peers, so to speak. I've never put never

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<v Speaker 3>been in a situation to where I've encountered, uh, those

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<v Speaker 3>type of people, you know, because you we come I

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<v Speaker 3>come from a different walk of life. You get me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I might not be necessarily the person that somebody

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<v Speaker 3>might want to express their racial you know, their racial

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<v Speaker 3>feelings towards you give me. Yea with us, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>on tours and going to different towns and sections, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, always having security and homies with you. I've

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<v Speaker 3>never uh come across someone who has been that blatant

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<v Speaker 3>to just call us niggas or or you know, step

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<v Speaker 3>out of line on some racial ship, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in my earlier days that might have turned into physical

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<v Speaker 3>violence for someone.

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<v Speaker 1>You give me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've seen I've had situations, man, when I

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<v Speaker 2>was younger, right, especially living in Ohio to where I've

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<v Speaker 2>had guys roller buck calling this, you know, screaming in

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<v Speaker 2>the word out the window or whatever like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually had an incident one time. We was in the

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<v Speaker 2>Taco bell meaning the Homies, right, and we was with

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<v Speaker 2>one of the Helmies, and the white homie knew karate

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<v Speaker 2>like this dude really was a fool with it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the homy right right. And these white folks

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<v Speaker 2>in there, I think they was at some Kinch State

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<v Speaker 2>University students. They was in there, you know, saying derogatory shit,

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<v Speaker 2>but in a different language, laughing, and he knew that,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, why don't you pussy said like say

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<v Speaker 2>it in English. So we got into a melee in there.

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<v Speaker 2>When I tell you that homies was kicking people upside

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<v Speaker 2>the head, I'm talking about bras dudes. You know. We

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<v Speaker 2>gave them white folks the business in there. We almost

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<v Speaker 2>went to jail for that though, even though they started it,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they kind of threw the first punch, we

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<v Speaker 2>ended it, but we almost went to jail. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>give a fuck about us talking about what they said

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<v Speaker 2>or this and that. They didn't give a damn. So

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<v Speaker 2>hell Yeah, I've experienced that type of stuff, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think would make it more crazy about states like California.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a whole bunch of white folks to

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way out here. But they know if they

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<v Speaker 2>go to Lakewood, Comped, the Long Beach anywhere talking that shit,

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<v Speaker 2>they might get s lived. That white woman would have

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<v Speaker 2>said some shit like that in Gonzales Park or somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>like that, she'd have got her ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know they're gonna and that's one thing about

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<v Speaker 3>you know, their kind, they gonna stay in their community.

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<v Speaker 3>What it is is you have to be careful about

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<v Speaker 3>venturing into their neck of the woods, because they damn

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<v Speaker 3>sure ain't gonna come to our neck of the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>They ain'tn't come to count They ain't gonna come to

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<v Speaker 3>Watch or South Central or or or the spots in

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<v Speaker 3>Chicago or New York or wherever it's vicious. They gonna

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<v Speaker 3>stay amongst themselves, now, you know, because being out of bounties,

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<v Speaker 3>being slipping, and you know, they want to be comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>in their own skin. So that's why they stay in

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<v Speaker 3>their surroundings. It's it's just that when we you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as African Americans, as Black people feel that we have

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<v Speaker 3>the right to stay anywhere the fuck we want to,

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<v Speaker 3>that we can afford, or we can whatever whatever. You know, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's us venturing into their nigative woods. It's where

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<v Speaker 3>you are forced to deal with the recu repercussions of

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<v Speaker 3>racism still because unfortunately, just like I had to tell

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<v Speaker 3>my son, you know, it still exists.

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<v Speaker 1>You get me, you know it's out there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you can't be naive to the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>even though you're black and proud and you know you

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<v Speaker 3>can whoop a motherfucker's ass or that type of aspect

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<v Speaker 3>you feeling, they feel just as strongly about. Hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's a nigga in my neck of the woods,

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<v Speaker 3>and if I'm feeling a certain way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna yell it out.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, no telling what led up to the situation

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<v Speaker 3>of her blurting out that shit you feel me to

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<v Speaker 3>someone's kid. Yeah, well evidently she said the little boy

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<v Speaker 3>wanting her kid's bag or whatever. Again, this kid you

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<v Speaker 3>talking about an autistic kid. I have a nephew that's

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<v Speaker 3>on the spectrum, right, and sometimes they'd like to do

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<v Speaker 3>little things like my nephew if he makes you ate.

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<v Speaker 3>He would come up and just touch your hands. You

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<v Speaker 3>feel what I'm saying, that's how he kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he does. You know, like he'd come up

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<v Speaker 3>and touch my hands and grab my fingers whatever, I

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<v Speaker 3>hold his hand or whatever. I just think, man, for

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<v Speaker 3>people to treat a child that way, Man, it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be a place in society for nothing like that, because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, white, black, green, and whatever a child.

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<v Speaker 2>As a child.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again we we are.

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<v Speaker 3>We are acceptable to certain shit because we feel as

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<v Speaker 3>adults we've come out of a lot of shit being

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<v Speaker 3>black men. But like I said, some people just feel

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable about the blatant, you know, racism that there is. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>some people just feel strongly about that shit. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>you can get on the internet any day and see

0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:39.119
<v Speaker 3>racism matter as full as you know. There's groups, there's websites,

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<v Speaker 3>there's blogs. You know, it's just unfortunately, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>something that we have we've had to come through. We

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<v Speaker 3>feel strongly as a people about who we are as

0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.160
<v Speaker 3>black people. You know, we can stand up for ourselves. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>We'll whoop the motherfucker ass. And I dare you to

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<v Speaker 3>say some shit but like again, these are people who

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<v Speaker 3>feel strongly in their beliefs.

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<v Speaker 1>Of they don't like us, you get me.

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<v Speaker 3>And so for uh, you know, for you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying, for it to be the situation of the

0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:20.440
<v Speaker 3>little kid going in somebody's bag or whatever, which is

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<v Speaker 3>which is? You know, you have to understand, uh, the

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<v Speaker 3>the mentality of the child on the spectrum. So who

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<v Speaker 3>knows she not knowing. But still it's not a case

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<v Speaker 3>of her, you know, blatantly just calling him out his name, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>not knowing what the what the situation is. You know again,

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<v Speaker 3>you know the thing is possible. She feel comfortable, And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say this ship, I don't give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you know what, bro, I've had situations to

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<v Speaker 2>where I might be in the strummer, right, had a

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<v Speaker 2>situation to where a little white boy and threw like

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<v Speaker 2>a little car, one of them little toy cars. He

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<v Speaker 2>threw it at me. Right, it didn't hurt, nothing kind

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:09.880
<v Speaker 2>of hit me. What was I gonna do? All off

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and slept the shout out the little boy a little kid.

0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I just kept it pushing, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Some pairs you know, the mom said, oh I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>and went on about her business. I wasn't tripping, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because who knows, you know what I'm saying. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you like some people you I don't know. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, uh, I just think we losing our

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<v Speaker 2>mind in this country. And I know you heard about

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<v Speaker 2>this one man, the brother Rodney hitting junior man who

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<v Speaker 2>ran over the who ran over the police officer behind

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<v Speaker 2>his son getting shot.

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<v Speaker 1>No, what's what's what's that?

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<v Speaker 2>You haven't heard about that? Eight?

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't heard about that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this brother Ridney hitting junior and his son was

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<v Speaker 2>shot dead by police right the night before and he

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<v Speaker 2>just got denied bond and killing the sheriffs deputy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>after the disturbance in court. His son was evidently in

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.680
<v Speaker 2>some kind of incident in the stolen car whatever. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't quite know the full details of it, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>what it was, the police say his son had a

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<v Speaker 2>gun whatever, which they can't see on the body camp

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<v Speaker 2>for them, so they shot him right. Oh, boy was

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<v Speaker 2>so mad he went after the next day and ran

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<v Speaker 2>over a deputy. Now say that I've heard a few

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.560
<v Speaker 2>people say that it was the same guy that shot

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.720
<v Speaker 2>his son. One I've heard that it wasn't the same

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<v Speaker 2>I heard. He just went and got a motherfucker. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you would have saw this brother walking court man

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<v Speaker 2>with all these it was a whole bunch of shrifs

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<v Speaker 2>like standing in the road beside him, and he walked

0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 2>between them motherfuckers just goooning that. They asked like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I do I do something? This man is traumatized behind

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<v Speaker 2>his son getting killed. He wasn't having it, but he's

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna whack the motherfucker. Now here's my thing? Where do

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that father's anger? Do I understand this? Ain't

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<v Speaker 2>you damn right? If somebody did something to any one

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.199
<v Speaker 2>of my kids, ain't no telling what I would do,

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:23.439
<v Speaker 2>ain't no telling what she would do? You probably this

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 2>man probably have lost his mind, a step who had

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<v Speaker 2>a mental break for short, right, But I see him

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 2>making no difference, right. But I think it would have

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<v Speaker 2>been viewed differently had it actually been the motherfu that

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<v Speaker 2>shot his son. He's going to ring the motherfucker over.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's tough right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's real tough.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck that they recovered the gun that they said the

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<v Speaker 3>kid had.

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<v Speaker 2>No and they don't have bodycam footage here. There is

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<v Speaker 2>shooting hip to it. I'm gonna I'm gonna read. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give it a low down on it. Rodney Hing Jr.

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<v Speaker 2>Who authorities say intentionally hitting killed in Ohio sheriff's deputy

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<v Speaker 2>with a car after his son was fatally shot by police,

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<v Speaker 2>but remained in jail without bond while he a wasted

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<v Speaker 2>trial and the murder chars King Jr. Was the ninth

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<v Speaker 2>bond of the Twoday court hearing in Cincinnati. He has

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<v Speaker 2>charged with aggravated murder for the main second killing of

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<v Speaker 2>Hamilton County shriff Deputy Larry Henderson. There would be an

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<v Speaker 2>order of the man with no bond. He is a

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<v Speaker 2>shorter safety of the defender and any mental health treatment

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<v Speaker 2>that he can be granted. Hamilton County Judge Tyrone Yates

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<v Speaker 2>said the hearing is the things the building in the

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<v Speaker 2>case that began last week in Cincinnati, police shot and

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 2>killed Hnton Junior's son. Police said eighteen year old Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>Hendon was one of four men who were fleeing at

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 2>the officers found him in a stolen car, and that

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 2>he was armed when he ran. Hing Junior's attorney Clyde

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<v Speaker 2>Bending the second end of the plea of not guilt

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 2>on his client's behalf and request Dell. During the two

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<v Speaker 2>his hearing, Bennett asked for him Junior not to be

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 2>thought of as a cop killer, but a person with

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 2>mental illness. I don't think he was a cop killer.

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I think he's not in his right mind, Ben said,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he should be treated like any other

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 2>mentally ill person that commits a crime under the auspicies, control,

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 2>and authority of a mental defense in that condition. After

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>the hearing begins, the turbans erupted in the gallery and

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Hiding Jr. Was rushed out of the courtroom by law enforcement.

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 2>The man yelled, I just want my brother to see me.

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 2>The hearing resumed after the man was esported out and

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Hing Jr. Was brought back into the courtroom. Bennett told

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Jameson for his acknowledgement, the man was not hitting Junior's brother.

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 2>So if you would have sort of look on these

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 2>police officers face, hey, you know how they are while

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 2>nobody kills one of their own, right, I'm surprised one

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 2>of them guys didn't pull a gun out. They hokster

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 2>man to shoot that dude. The way they was looking at.

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Her, they didn't have a chance, because you definitely would

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 3>have they would have roughed him up, you know what

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, once they got a hold of him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's kind of yeah, it's deep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that that's a hard one right there, because as

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 3>a father with a son, you know, there's there's no

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 3>extent or length that you wouldn't go through to protect

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 3>your son.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know only you know the morale of your son.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unfortunate that you know, like I said, we don't

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 3>know what kind of lifestyle he was living. I mean,

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 3>because for them to turn around and say he was

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.160
<v Speaker 3>with other dudes in a robbery and all that shit.

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 3>But the thing is you you you don't have evidence

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 3>of a weapon and you don't have bodycam footage. So

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 3>that's what makes it suspicious on a father's behalf. You

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 3>give me, I had no answers to why you shot

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 3>my son. You you saying like you know and your

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 3>your your evaluation of your son is like, my son

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:28.160
<v Speaker 3>ain't robbing no motherfucking body, you know what I'm saying.

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 3>And he definitely had no pistol unless you know your

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 3>son is in that lifestyle. So that's gonna that's gonna

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 3>fuck up ship right there. Uh, And then when you

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.880
<v Speaker 3>looking for answers there or none, you give me why

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 3>you shoot my son? You say he had a gun,

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 3>but there's no gun found, and then you had no

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Now we got no body cam footage, So I don't

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 3>know what the fuck y'all did. Y'all could have just

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 3>jumped out and just start shooting my son on the

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 3>active being on the aspect of being you know, paranoid cops.

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a whole bunch of look at and especially

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 2>you know with this brother, I do think it's a

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>mental illness thing. Man. You know, it's so much wrong

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 2>on both sides of this. Right, you got the police

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>once a youn' gunning down a brother they said they

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 2>had a gun, that didn't have a gun, right, and

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you got to sheriff that has lost his life. You

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 2>feel what I mean that that you know he's not

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 2>coming home in his family now. I just think that

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 2>whenever you had a loss of life on both sides,

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 2>it's just a bad thing. I do think this is

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 2>a mental illness thing on out and I hope that

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 2>they don't look at this as a personal thing because

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I think this man on had a mental break. He

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 2>lost his.

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Son, well, definitely out of a mental break. If it's

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 3>thart process was, I'm gonna go out here, and who

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 3>knows what it is. I don't want to say that

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 3>they was planned. He could have been he could have

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 3>been fucking rolling around one day and just seeing the police,

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, and and just snapped.

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>You get me.

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 3>My answer, because that's that's traumatic. You know, that's on

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 3>any parent losing their kid in the situation of being

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 3>shot and killed, you know, you know, and to be eighteen.

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 3>You get me that that's devastating. I be devastated if

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 3>something happened to my son, somebody shot and killed my

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 3>son at eighteen years old.

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to deal with it.

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know, I just hoping pray that

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm gonna rebut that man, that me and

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>you ever have to go through some shit like that,

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 2>because I don't know how I processed that.

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, and so it's hard to say what his thought

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>process was.

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 3>And for the fact that you know, most of the

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 3>times you deal with these situate, these these parents who

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 3>deal with that aspect of their child going through that

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 3>gang life and being murdered and a drive by and

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 3>not getting answers or whatever. You know, this man had

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 3>the police killed him.

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>You get me. So you already gotten you know, there's

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>already that.

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 3>That love hate, you know, relationship that we as black

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 3>people have with the police.

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>You get me.

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 3>A feeling being felt racial profile as a as a

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 3>as a black man, and now knowing what you might

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 3>have had to go through as a young motherfucker with

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 3>the police. You just knowing in this day and age,

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 3>you got an eighteen year old son, you could just

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 3>imagine that situation right there.

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 2>So man, and I imagine they you know, that's what

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I think God, that cats like me and you had

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 2>certain attributes and talent and opportunities to allow us to

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 2>take our kids out of those type of situations.

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's it's it's you can't prevent it. You

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>get me.

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Growing up in the neighborhoods, you know, you gravitate to

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 3>niggas in the neighborhood. You know, those be the niggas.

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 3>You play football with the niggas, You ride bikes with

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 3>the niggas. You you know, uh go to school with

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 3>from from from elementary on up to high school and

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 3>and and so it's hard to escape that when you're

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 3>living in the neighborhood. It's a it's almost like a

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 3>right the passage. You get me, And most of the

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 3>time it don't even have to be family family affiliated.

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 3>You get me or my brother was in the gang

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 3>and then my cousin and wut you want? Sometimes just

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 3>growing up in the hood and befriended niggas from your childhood.

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, a shit nigga.

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 3>We was in the second grade together, fifth grade together,

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 3>seventh grade together, tenth grade together, and then we live

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 3>in around the corners from each other, in the same community,

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 3>same neighborhood.

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, sometimes it's just to write a passage.

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you figure like this, right, our sons was

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.479
<v Speaker 2>raising suburbs, right, you know, places to where they can

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 2>go to the movies at night, and just certain stuff

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't happen because your son could have been just an

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 2>xority ride with some catching stolen car about man, he

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 2>could have just been up. How many times have you

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 2>found yourself cut up in situations? Dog to where was

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>some dumb shit that she wasn't even aware of? Motherfucker

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>homie ride by pick you up in a car that stolen.

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>You don't want nothing. Body you just cruising. Next thing

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, he jumping out the car and everybody's running

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 2>and you running. There are so many ways, man, we

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 2>could have been cut up in the same situations coming up. Man.

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Man, I used to always even though you know, you

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 3>try to raise your kids in different communities than what

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:39.719
<v Speaker 3>we was raised in, I still didn't put past nothing.

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>You feel me.

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 3>I used to always tell them, watch out who you

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 3>hang around. Don't be a follower, be a leader. You

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 3>know shit, you know, because they're still motherfuckers, may be

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 3>feeling like because of where you live, shit might be

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 3>easier to get away with or get into.

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>You feel me.

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 3>So I used to always tell them, you know, That's

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 3>why I used to always try to keep them occupying

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 3>you get me. That was one way I felt like,

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 3>not in a sense of controlling, but I was able to,

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, vouch for and see a lot of shit

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 3>you're getting. I saw the kids you was going to

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 3>school with. I saw the kids that you was hanging around.

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Because I'm there mostly all the time, you're getting I'm

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 3>gonna pick you up from school. You know, when you're

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 3>in elementary school, when you get to motherfucking intermediate school.

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm your football coach. So once you get

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 3>out of school, you around me from the time. You know,

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 3>you go to practice all day and then by time

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 3>practice over we get home nine o'clock, it's time to

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 3>go to bid your friends. You developed through school and

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 3>through fucking playing sports, so I was able to be

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 3>a part of that. You know, growing up in the hood. Shit,

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 3>my influences was the niggas on the corner. It wasn't

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 3>the niggas out, you know, playing sports with and shit,

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 3>even though I tried that aspect. But growing up in

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 3>the hood were just moms and my sister and he

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:32.320
<v Speaker 3>influences what I saw on the block. You know, it

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 3>wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't hard for me to get

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 3>into the gang lifestyle because I was influenced by that.

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 3>So you have to be careful about, you know, your

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 3>surroundings and where you live in and all that. And

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 3>people don't think that, but being a product of your

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 3>environment is big. Yeah, it is.

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 2>It's everything, man, And that's why I thought it was

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>still important.

0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I made it actually, when I became my father, I

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 2>made it my mission to move my kids upbout the

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.320
<v Speaker 2>neighborhood where they would never have to be subject to

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 2>certain things because it's just ante occurrence. Man, that's not occurrence,

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, And you know they're sticking to man that

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.800
<v Speaker 2>they didn't you know that this kid had a gun. Again,

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 2>there's no gun on the body cam fat you know footage.

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:24.919
<v Speaker 2>They say it's real graining and blurry that you can't

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>see nothing right. And I'm not one of those people

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 2>that hate the police, man, but it seemed like we

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 2>do drop disproportionately.

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 3>As as as as I said, growing up in the

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 3>community like Compton and the stories you you hear as

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 3>a child, or what you see or what you're able

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 3>to you know, uh, what you're able to witness for

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 3>yourself now with the help of documentaries and you know,

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 3>youtubes and internets and whatever, we as black people have.

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>A sour taste in our mouth behind police.

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 2>That's why I you know, listen to this though bro

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:25.760
<v Speaker 2>On cross examination by Bennett, BB said he would assume

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Hiding Junior's source of the agitation, as Bennett put it,

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:33.800
<v Speaker 2>was watching the body camera video. Nelson argued him Jors

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.280
<v Speaker 2>in his current state is a giant mental health question

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 2>mark has clear and present danger and possessed impose the

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 2>substantial risk of physical hard and law enforcement officers into

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 2>the public is evidenced by his conduct. While Ben pointing

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 2>out that Hinting Juniors lacks any previous felt in conventions,

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 2>live in the area, and has family ties to judge

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 2>fort him to be held without bond, find it very

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 2>difficult to figure out how there could be any decision

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.360
<v Speaker 2>based on what they said that would protect the public

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 2>and the defendant under these circumstances. Jay said his next

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 2>courdidate is May twelve.

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I kind of agree with the judge.

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I think, in this mental state, man, who's to say

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 2>he won't get out and go run over twenty more people? Right?

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 2>This man is pissed off, he's you don't know what

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>state he's in. But I wouldn't keep him in jail.

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I would put him somewhere for mental evaluation. That's what

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 2>he should be. You tell you, you know, when a

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 2>person is sick, you take him to the hospital, right right,

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 2>this man is probably experienced in grief. He has never

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 2>filed in his life before. Dog they said, the man

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 2>don't have no This is not a man who's just

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 2>been fucking up this whole life. This is a man

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 2>who lost his son and he's probably experience of grief

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 2>to the tenth power.

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:53.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they not on But because of the fact

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 3>that he's killed a police officer, they're not going to

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 3>go We're not going to give you no mental route.

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Get me, We're not you know, they're not gonna.

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:10.720
<v Speaker 3>He could have did anything but killed a police officer,

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 3>you get me. He could have ran over a you know,

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 3>or went out and you know, killed the person that

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 3>you I mean, I don't know, but killing the police

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 3>officers on a different level of of of of what

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 3>they see fit. And we're not going to let you

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:37.800
<v Speaker 3>ride a mental case when you then killed a police officers.

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 3>It's not going to work. So unfortunately, I'm pretty sure

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 3>his mental state was broken for the fact that first

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 3>of all, my son is dead. Second of all, he

0:39:54.120 --> 0:40:00.280
<v Speaker 3>was killed by a police officer. Third, we as black

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 3>people already have a bad outlook on the police as

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:08.760
<v Speaker 3>far as killing black people. So there you have another

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 3>case of the police, you know, doing bodily harm to

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 3>another young black man.

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:19.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, we've seen the cases over and over again.

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Then it shit.

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 3>You can keep naming the issues you got no bodycam footage.

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Where's the gun that you said? So, where's the pistol?

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 3>If you're saying he drew down on you and he

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 3>had a gun, where's the body Oh so all of

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, nobody cam footage is grainy as blurry, but

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 3>there should be a weapon still, right, Yeah.

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, And I would be remiss to say that this

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 2>dad probably wouldn't have acted that way had he so

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>is soon pull out a gun. But I'm imagining this

0:40:57.040 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 2>man looking at body cam for he's wondering why they

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 2>shoot my gun? He posed no danger to them? Why

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 2>did they kill my son?

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, that's that's that's you know, that's most

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 3>of the time, anytime the police is involved in a

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 3>in a in a shooting where there's a victim of

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 3>of of minority issues, you get me Blacks, Mexicans. It's

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 3>always the question of why you get me? Isn't that

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 3>so common with us that it's almost too common?

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Bro?

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 3>When it when it involves the police and the victim

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 3>of color, it's always the aspect of why, and people

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 3>speak up on well, he wasn't no crazed as maniac

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.320
<v Speaker 3>or his mental state. You know a lot of times

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 3>he was mentor or you know, the police didn't understand

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 3>he had a prime or whatever. H No, I mean

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 3>it's always question, like I said, when it comes to

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 3>the so so like for him and his mental status.

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 1>You never know.

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 3>But they're not going to give him the pleasure of

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 3>going to a mental institution and you know, working over

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:30.320
<v Speaker 3>the aggravations of him dealing with these These are the

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 3>people who killed my son. And I'm deal with and

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 3>answer questions every day to why, and nobody can give

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 3>me answers, you get me. So Yeah, like I said,

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:49.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna say that he premeditated to go out

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 3>and fuck that they killed my son. I'm finna kill

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 3>one of them, you get me. He could have been

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 3>driving down the street one day, had a break down,

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 3>saw police and just snapped.

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, and that's my thing. Hey, it's a

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 2>sad situation.

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:12.399
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 2>I feel sorry man for that brother. I feel sorry

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 2>for his family. I feel feel sorry for the officer

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:19.719
<v Speaker 2>that got ran over dog. You know, it's a lot

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 2>of people that's gonna be damaged by this. It ain't

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:25.360
<v Speaker 2>none of it good, you.

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Know, Yeah, because you know, I'm pretty sure the dude

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 3>had a family the officer. And you know, if if

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't involved in this tragedy, uh, that just make

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 3>him an innocent victim.

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>You get me.

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I'm saying. You know, I try to

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:49.399
<v Speaker 2>tell Glasses and I tell people be careful on putting

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>false narratives out there. Glasses told me, no, that was

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 2>the man that they shot his son. Dude, First of all,

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't the man that shot his son. The man

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 2>that shot his son would have been placed on administrative

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:01.720
<v Speaker 2>lead peop wouldn't have been off the directing no traffic

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 2>the next day. I don't think me not. You feel

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. He wouldn't have been out there just

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 2>directing traffic the next day.

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, this was this is this was an incident

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 3>of of like what they call crimes of passion. Like

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 3>I didn't plan to kill a motherfucker. I didn't plan

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 3>on a motherfucker getting hurt. It's just that I was

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:33.280
<v Speaker 3>so overwhelmed with grief and then I'm I'm I'm probably

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 3>sitting at a light, you know what I'm saying, grieving

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 3>so bad and and and can't deal with the motherfucking

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:45.800
<v Speaker 3>pressure of it. And then there before me is a

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 3>motherfucker out directing traffic.

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly.

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 3>That's no different of of you being in the courtroom

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 3>and they got the motherfucker who then killed your son

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 3>on the mother fucking you know, sitting in the shit

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 3>and you're gonna snap, You're gonna try to get to

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 3>that motherfucker. We've seen it numerous times on crime shows.

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Motherfuckers killer relative or a son or a daughter, and

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 3>the daddy or the brother or somebody coming there and

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 3>the first thing they do is take a leap of

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 3>faith to try to get their hands on the motherfucker.

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:31.280
<v Speaker 3>So who knows how dad was feeling about the loss

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:31.959
<v Speaker 3>of his son.

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 2>And you know, you were smart, dude, bro, just by

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 2>seeing that that whole thing was a particular homicide. Lets

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 2>you know right there that he wasn't probably planning on

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 2>killing nobody. He was driving so that officer and just

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:47.439
<v Speaker 2>want to hit his ads.

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like you're saying, it's a spare of the

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:54.400
<v Speaker 3>moment crime and passion. I'm in the heat of passion

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 3>type shit, like I didn't wake up this morning and

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 3>going I'm finna just go you get me.

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Like when you do stuff like that, you always a

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 2>state you can get guns real eas it. You got

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 2>access to gun, I please it or right, But but

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 2>still look at the way that the crime that went down.

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 3>It was a traffic type of shit where nigga was

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 3>out directing traffic and he got hit. You know, the

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 3>nigga didn't wake up this morning like I'm finna drive

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 3>around and look for motherfuckers directing traffic and whoever I find,

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm finna.

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Just get me. No.

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 3>I woke up grieving missing my son, having real hateful,

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 3>real you know, towards the police department. I'm not getting

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:52.840
<v Speaker 3>no answers. I'm grieving, I'm grieving, I'm so hurt. I

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 3>don't know what the fuck to do. I'm at that

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.879
<v Speaker 3>point of no return, like I don't know these motherfucking

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 3>now my mother. The fucking hatred towards the police is

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:06.359
<v Speaker 3>just getting more and more and more as every day

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 3>passes with no answers of why my son was killed.

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 3>And now I just happened to be able to stop

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 3>light and the motherfucker's directing traffic and I'm and it

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 3>just overwhelms me to where, yeah, because I can't see

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 3>him trying to execute that crime and know he gon

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 3>get cut. Right he was planning it, I would have think, Okay, man,

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get my art and I'm gonna get my

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 3>ear fifteen. I'm just gonna post up on this building

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 3>across street and the police station, and as soon as

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I do, come on, I'm gonna go them have it.

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:41.840
<v Speaker 3>But I'm gonna be three blocks up the roads.

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of times the motherfuckers with plans planning

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 3>to get away, right, Yeah, you don't.

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:55.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna plan some shit out to get caught.

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 3>If I'm planning some ship, I plan to get the

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 3>fuck away. So you know, if if if I just

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 3>wake up this morning, jump in my car and decide

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 3>like fuck it, I see somebody.

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:10.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's it, then.

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 3>There's there's there's a chance I'm gonna get caught at

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 3>the scene, or a motherfucker gonna follow me, or they

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 3>got a description of the.

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Vehicle and all that.

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, when you make a plan, you plan to

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 3>go scott free, or you plan to get away with

0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 3>the crime. So it's gonna be thought out a little

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 3>bit more than just you know, barreling through an intersection

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 3>and taking somebody's life.

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>You get me that that's that's not a plan.

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's said, man, it's said, you know what I

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:53.279
<v Speaker 2>want to ask you though, Man, you know, prayers man

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 2>for that man and his family. Man, and they share

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 2>his family as they go through this ordeal, man, because

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 2>this is quite one of the most fun the things

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't seen in the world. Though. It's just said, like.

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 3>I said, it's it's a it's a fucked up situation.

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 3>And like I said, I've had run ins with the police. Uh,

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 3>so I can understand, uh as a father, his his

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 3>blatant hatred towards the situation.

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 3>But then again, you know, a motherfucker who got up

0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:30.479
<v Speaker 3>this morning to go you know, direct traffic probably wasn't

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:33.719
<v Speaker 3>thinking like today a motherfucker finn come through here and

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 3>hit me and take me away from my family and kids.

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:40.360
<v Speaker 2>And they said the dude exactly, And they said the

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:42.359
<v Speaker 2>dude had been in the force for a long time,

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 2>so if he were doing traffic duty, that meant he

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 2>was like at that stage of his career to where

0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:49.840
<v Speaker 2>he's doing kickback stuff. He cat.

0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:56.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm winding down, you know, out here patrolling and looking

0:49:56.920 --> 0:50:00.560
<v Speaker 3>for drug dealers and gang bangers and doing all that shit.

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing traffic stops and motherfucking directed traffic when lights

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 3>and accidents go down.

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:09.840
<v Speaker 1>So you know, like.

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 3>It's just unfortunately, I said, We've had our runnings with

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:19.120
<v Speaker 3>the police. We've had, you know, difficult situations of just

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 3>being a black man and getting profiled and you know

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 3>and all that.

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I know dudes who are police officers.

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've coached with dudes whose.

0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 3>Sons have played on my teams who have been officers,

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:38.759
<v Speaker 3>and you know, you've gotten no dudes and dudes have

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 3>been cool. You know, It's unfortunate.

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I grew up in a.

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Time where you know, gang banging and being black and

0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:53.439
<v Speaker 3>being profiled in the area where which was considered.

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, hostile is what I had to go through.

0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:00.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I don't I.

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Don't consider you know, where I live or where you

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 3>know I raised my son that I'm gonna go through

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:12.799
<v Speaker 3>a situation of being at the liquor store getting profiled

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:15.880
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. I look to be treated as a regular.

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, man, you feel me color of my skin,

0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 3>So, Uh, nobody wishes that motherfucker who got up and

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:32.320
<v Speaker 3>punched the clock this morning lose their life because you

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:36.359
<v Speaker 3>said it's unfortunate. He just happened to be a part

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 3>of a membership. You get me. That's like, you know,

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:45.040
<v Speaker 3>not to make jokes, but that's just like game life.

0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 3>You feel me, Nigga, come when smoked one of the

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 3>homies ship were gonna go through, and unfortunately, if you're

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:57.240
<v Speaker 3>part of that, that game, you might lose your life.

0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 3>You it might you you might not beating who came

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:05.359
<v Speaker 3>through and killed the homie, but you're still representing from

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 3>over there. So if we come through and you just

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 3>happen to be a motherfucker out there, you gonna get

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 3>caught too. Bully, Bully don't got no name. You feel me,

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:22.759
<v Speaker 3>you're part of that motherfucker is set. So one of

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:26.879
<v Speaker 3>y'all did it, and that's unfortunately. You know, That's how

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:31.719
<v Speaker 3>my man looked at it, you know, And I think

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 3>it was some I think it was some spur of

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 3>the moment. But man, in our last few minutes, man,

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 3>I want to get into something a little bit lighter.

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:42.399
<v Speaker 3>You've been in the entertainment game a long time, man,

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 3>do you think the Kanye is.

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Losing it a little bit as far as what his

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 2>rants and all. Yeah, like it don't like something's mentally

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 2>wrong with him.

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everybody you know, uh.

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Has had you know, has questioned his his his state

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 3>since the passing of his mother. You get me, And

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 3>we don't know, you know, how what that did to

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:21.840
<v Speaker 3>his mental state. A lot of people have he and

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 3>shit that goes on. I don't know if the nigga

0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 3>taken drugs or you know, we don't know if he's

0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 3>just whatever. There hasn't been any real professional diagnosis of

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:42.160
<v Speaker 3>his condition, you get me. So people let Kanye be

0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 3>and just let him run his mouth, because again, he

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:51.440
<v Speaker 3>is a nigga sitting on a billion dollars. So a

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 3>lot of times when you're in those positions, people that

0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 3>you rant for some reason.

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they said he went off on Piers Morgan on

0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:09.360
<v Speaker 2>his show, and I wonder sometimes how this is impacting

0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 2>his record seals, if they are impacting his record seals.

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:16.440
<v Speaker 3>I know, I don't need to sell a record. I

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:19.120
<v Speaker 3>already got a billion dollars. What else do I need

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 3>to do at this point? I'm just doing shit to

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:24.279
<v Speaker 3>be doing it, you get me. And that's what he does.

0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 3>He does shit just to be doing it. When you

0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:31.080
<v Speaker 3>and nigga that's sitting on a billion dollars when you

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:37.840
<v Speaker 3>a nigga that's sitting on five hundred million dollars, Like, like,

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 3>what do you really need to do?

0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:40.879
<v Speaker 2>Ever?

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Again?

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:46.760
<v Speaker 3>If you have someone that's in your just one motherfucker

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 3>who's smart enough to know, let me do this, let

0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 3>me put this up, let's do this, let me do this.

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:58.719
<v Speaker 3>You know somebody like you, For instance, if you was

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 3>around a motherfucker who was sitting on a billion dollars

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:05.920
<v Speaker 3>and they people thought they was crazy as fucking all

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:09.479
<v Speaker 3>kind of whatever whatever, but you had the mind state

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:10.480
<v Speaker 3>you have as.

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:15.320
<v Speaker 1>A good dude, there's always gonna be some security.

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 2>You get me.

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Nigga's never gonna go broke. It's always gonna you get

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:21.080
<v Speaker 1>me this this.

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:25.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't give fuck if the nigga never sold another

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 3>record or made another teny shoe. He has made enough

0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:33.759
<v Speaker 3>motherfucking money to where if there's the right person around.

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna keep that shit going forever. You feel me?

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:44.000
<v Speaker 3>So, like, really, like when you say, does it fuck

0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:46.640
<v Speaker 3>with his record sales? Or does it fuck with his

0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 3>shoe sales? Or does it fuck with Kanye been ranting

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 3>and raven for about the last ten years now, what

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:55.880
<v Speaker 3>has it fucked with?

0:55:57.440 --> 0:55:57.800
<v Speaker 1>You know what?

0:55:57.960 --> 0:55:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Because he's still around here, random Raven.

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:03.360
<v Speaker 1>He like, again, he's been rand and raving for about

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the last ten years.

0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 3>What has it from the time he started jumping on

0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:12.799
<v Speaker 3>the stages and said motherfucking bushing him didn't like black people.

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 1>And all that crazy shit, what has it stopped? Financially? Financially,

0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 1>what has it stopped?

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<v Speaker 2>It ain't really stop nothing. Speaking of financially, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Jay said he lost almost two hundred million dollars because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's suing that girl. He's like, has he

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<v Speaker 2>has a lossuit going on with the girl who accused

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<v Speaker 2>him of rape and that attorney right right right, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's going after them. Ole said he lost two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars messing with that man, like because of that

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<v Speaker 2>all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you gotta figure business deals and investors and

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<v Speaker 3>people like that are gonna be afraid to fuck with

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<v Speaker 3>you on certain shit so you can have deals on

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<v Speaker 3>the table. Nigga worked millions and people are gonna pull

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<v Speaker 3>out certain shit, you get.

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<v Speaker 2>It just just because of the word, not necessarily because

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:10.279
<v Speaker 2>it's true or no facts behind it. They just go

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<v Speaker 2>this is themselves because don't nobody want to get caught

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<v Speaker 2>up in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like you, you sitting on a you sitting on

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<v Speaker 3>a billion couple of billion dollar corporation. You're finna invest

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<v Speaker 3>in this dude, and you fina hand this dude one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred million. Right before you finish hand him one hundred million,

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<v Speaker 3>you hear an allegation of rape and all this stupid

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<v Speaker 3>shit with Puffy and whatever. Whatever, you're finna give him

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<v Speaker 3>a hundred million.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, Probably not, man, it probably wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>a good business move.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're gonna say.

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<v Speaker 3>At this time, we're gonna hold off and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>see how this played out, and then maybe on in

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<v Speaker 3>the future down the road, will will look back into

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<v Speaker 3>this venture. But at this time I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>invest a hundred million getting into a motherfucker who somebody

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<v Speaker 3>say rape them, that that ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>Ho hoves go sue the ship off this woman. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a serious whether whether if whether it comes out true,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean not true, and you didn't do it whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>Just the stain of of of me going through with

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<v Speaker 2>the deal while this is going on, it's gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>me being frowned upon by certain people, like like he

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<v Speaker 2>supposedly did this and you gave him a hundred million,

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<v Speaker 2>Like how dare you? Like you invest in rapists and

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<v Speaker 2>shit like that. So now I can't do that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna keep my one hundred million right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, maybe down the road will come

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<v Speaker 3>back around when it's when the funk then died out

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<v Speaker 3>and not too many people or you know, but while

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<v Speaker 3>this whole thing is going on, and you might not

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<v Speaker 3>be involved or it might be false allegations. But with

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<v Speaker 3>the puffy shit and then all this other shit, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't get my hands on. I can't touch that hot

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<v Speaker 3>potato right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I really think they need to start

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<v Speaker 2>having stifferd penalties for people with these false claims of

0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:24.840
<v Speaker 2>slander people's names and then you know, coming out with

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<v Speaker 2>stuff just to try to gain some money for monetary games.

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<v Speaker 2>I think those people need to have criminal charges brought against.

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<v Speaker 3>Them what some people do when it comes to blackmail

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<v Speaker 3>and doing shit like that. But that's the new aspect

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<v Speaker 3>of shit today. The new aspect of shit is it

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to be true. All I have to do

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<v Speaker 3>is bring up the accusations that it might have happened,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's gonna it you know it didn't happen, but

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<v Speaker 3>then there's gonna be a motherfucker that tell you maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you just want to pay this motherfucker off about five

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<v Speaker 3>or ten million because you.

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<v Speaker 2>They fuck there. You see the shit going on with

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<v Speaker 2>Shannon Shot right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm saying you don't want that stain because look

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<v Speaker 3>at what happens in the backlash of just the accusation.

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<v Speaker 1>There ain't been no court coming out yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything is just being settle settled because once it comes out,

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<v Speaker 3>these million dollar motherfuckers, they ain't gonna want to fuck

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<v Speaker 3>with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So just think about it. Get a bit five million,

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<v Speaker 1>so she just go away.

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<v Speaker 3>If you saying did nothing happen and everything was consentu fine,

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<v Speaker 3>but but the stain of going through the process is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna fuck you because people are gonna start doing this

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<v Speaker 3>with your contracts.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast.

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