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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know what some funny shit is though. It's

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Speaker 2: this woman I guess that's tripping on this little kid

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Speaker 2: in the park, right, a white woman, white woman, right,

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Speaker 2: and she went off on a kid or whatever, and

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Speaker 2: some dude some other brother recorded the right action. Foo.

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Speaker 2: I guess you know, she was dropping the N word

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Speaker 2: multiple times, you know, call him a little nia and

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Speaker 2: he recorded her. You know that woman who raised six

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars already.

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Speaker 1: Well, from what I heard, there was a.

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Speaker 3: It's on some you know, white supremacist groups and people

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Speaker 3: who support you.

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Speaker 1: Know her.

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Speaker 3: Whatever she you know, whatever she believes in whatever. So

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Speaker 3: it's a lot of those people who raise money for her.

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Speaker 3: That's how she's she's made. She's they they've raised over

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Speaker 3: seven hundred thousand dollars for her, a few few extremist groups,

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Speaker 3: white supremacists, people like that, you know, So you know.

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Speaker 2: This is crazy, man. I guess this happened at Minnesota, right,

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Speaker 2: I wonder why is the stuff like this don't ever

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Speaker 2: happen in our neck of the wood.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you gotta try to figure out

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Speaker 3: and understand what is the raising of the money for

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Speaker 3: what is she potentially.

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Speaker 1: Was gonna lose her job, gonna have to.

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Speaker 3: Relocate, you know, you know what actually is the money

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Speaker 3: being raised?

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess because she now has to move because

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Speaker 2: she has been so big that she has to move

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Speaker 2: right now. And it's like even they even found out

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Speaker 2: what she works out at. I guess this is in Rochester, Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: And the kid that she was the kids, the kid

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Speaker 2: is at the autistic Yeah, so she went off on

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Speaker 2: an autistic kid. Ah, And then this is crazy. I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna going to playing a video and everything else

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Speaker 2: like this. I noticed that people are getting more and

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Speaker 2: more uncomfortable then with really we're really using racial ship.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, you know.

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Speaker 3: It ain't that people been getting coming, people being comfortable

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Speaker 3: with the ship for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Now you get me.

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Speaker 3: It's just that, you know, it's frowned upon more, you know,

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Speaker 3: because it's now you know, social media.

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Speaker 1: There we go, It's all good, keep talking, you know, social.

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Speaker 3: Media and ship you know has elevated, you know, certain ship.

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Speaker 3: But it's it ain't like it's uh like we a

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Speaker 3: stranger to motherfuckers calling us the N word. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we call each other niggas as as a gesture of

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Speaker 3: friendship or homey ship or whatever. What's up my nigga?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Won't? We won't. But you know.

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Speaker 3: Now that we got the Internet and shit is being broadcast,

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Speaker 3: that the light has frowned upon because it is you know,

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Speaker 3: in terms when it's used upon different races, it's it's

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Speaker 1: You feel me.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I'm just picturing the grown ass woman

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Speaker 2: though calling a little artistic kid out of his name,

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Speaker 2: hot coffee on that picture, well.

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Speaker 3: You gotta understand. Well then you see now that comes

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Speaker 3: into play of what your retaliation would cost you. You know,

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Speaker 3: now that's physical retaliation. Now you facing jail time and

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Speaker 3: lawsuits because you know, somebody done called you out your

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Speaker 3: name or call the kid out the name something that

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Speaker 3: we're not strangers to. You feel me, ain't nobody stranger

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Speaker 3: that shit mo Funck. And then it depends on what

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Speaker 3: repercussions of what they think of of us. You feel

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Speaker 3: they've been thinking that's a long time still you've given.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I don't know if I through

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Speaker 2: no hot coffee on her, man, but I ought to

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Speaker 2: definitely check that bit. Her name is Charlie Little Hendrix,

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Speaker 2: I guess, and she's saying that you need to relocate

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Speaker 2: I noticed many they haven't been you know, we've always

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Speaker 2: had racist motherfuckers in this country, right as long as

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Speaker 2: me and you've been walking deserving before us, right. But

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Speaker 2: I do believe that white folks are more comfortable than

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Speaker 2: ever was showing they as.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: You know, like I said, a lot of people feel

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we.

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Speaker 3: Have a shit set up to where you know, we

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Speaker 3: have racial crimes and shit like that. But I guess

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Speaker 3: people be feeling like in her aspect as the freedom

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Speaker 3: a nigga. You know, she feels in her basis and

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Speaker 3: how she was raised in the community she supports and

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Speaker 3: the people that supports her, and what she believe in.

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Speaker 3: She has that right to say that word if she

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Speaker 3: wants to, like, you know, shit is you know, she

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we evidently she did, and she's about to be

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Speaker 2: rewarded for it. She's about for sure to be rewarded

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Speaker 2: for this race. You said, seven hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Now, I mean, like I said, unfortunately, like you know,

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Speaker 3: it's still people who believe in that shit, you get me.

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Speaker 1: It's people who still you know.

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Speaker 3: Great grandparents and grandparents who you know, in embedded in

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Speaker 3: them in the history of what they believe in, and

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Speaker 3: it's just passed on and they're still communities and people

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Speaker 3: who have the right to have these groups. You see,

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Speaker 3: you know, niggas dressing up in their uniforms going out

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Speaker 3: to protest that certain shit. So there's definitely still communities

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Speaker 3: and people across the globe who are in support of

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Speaker 3: she's a hero to them.

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Speaker 2: It me they hate us, that bad man hate it

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Speaker 2: scrowm as a motherfucker dog.

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Speaker 1: Is is? Is it? Like you said?

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Speaker 3: But is that support welcome in the black community as

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Speaker 3: on the same aspect. You know, if if you were

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Speaker 3: living in a in a white community and called a

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Speaker 3: motherfucker out of eight, you know, you called a motherfucker

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Speaker 3: that motherfucker word, or you know, something that they don't

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Speaker 3: like or they despise. What the what the what the

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Speaker 3: black community be in support of raising money to help

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Speaker 3: you relocate your family in the situation of you might

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Speaker 3: be caused harm or you know, it might be some

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Speaker 3: bullshit going down. Do you think it would work vice versa.

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Speaker 2: See, that's the thing, I don't know, you know what

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Speaker 2: I think we would get like the fuck up, I

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Speaker 2: think we would have issues.

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Speaker 3: Do you think do you think the homies in the

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Speaker 3: black community would get together and raise over seven hundred

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars to donate to you if you was in

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Speaker 3: the in the in the in the same situation.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I don't know, man, because the little

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Speaker 2: boy's family has raised six hundred thousand so far. The

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Speaker 2: little boy there was the victim of this white woman.

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Speaker 2: His family has raised six hundred thousand. The family told him,

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Speaker 2: you know, people stopped giving them. They shut it down,

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Speaker 2: you know. And what were they raising money for? Well,

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Speaker 2: I guess somebody started raised decided to raise money on

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Speaker 2: their behalf. Let me see how I tell you right now?

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Speaker 2: They had decided to raise money on behalf of this

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Speaker 2: kid write some organization. Let me see. Let me tell

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Speaker 2: you right now. H uh huh. Because the guy that

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Speaker 2: that busted out, right, But the guy that busted her out,

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Speaker 2: whatever the this is stuff he's been exonerated on, right. Uh,

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Speaker 2: So he's had a little bit of backlashing. I guess

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Speaker 2: they were raising money for, you know, the wellness of

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Speaker 2: about all this stuff. Man. I don't even know if

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Speaker 2: we honestly will ever get through this racism shit. Man.

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Speaker 2: I think people feel the fuck the way they feel,

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Speaker 2: and that's what it is. I won't go as far

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Speaker 2: as black people, African Americans, whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 2: but we will say that we got to start kind

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Speaker 2: about like creating our own shit. Man. I'm thinking like,

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Speaker 2: and I'm nowhere and everybody any meanings racist? Man, I

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Speaker 2: America has su you time again that there's more motherfuckers

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I think a lot of people of

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Speaker 2: cut up, they do that. If it means them voting

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Speaker 2: for a motherfucker that's go putting certain laws in place

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Speaker 2: think that we need to start supporting our own. We

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Speaker 2: We need to stop supporting motherfuckers that don't fuck with us.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why people can't understand that. Man. If

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Speaker 2: they don't fuck with us over at Target, stop shopping

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Speaker 2: at Target, they don't support us over at If they

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Speaker 2: acting a certain way to us at this place, stop

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Speaker 2: supporting them. Yeah, I mean, I guess, But that's that's

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Speaker 2: that's a that's a strong commitment for you know, people

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Speaker 2: the walmarts and the Targets and these these these uh

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Speaker 2: these places you feel me.

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Speaker 3: So sometimes it might be hard, you know. You you

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Speaker 3: might tell people let's boycott and let's do this and that,

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Speaker 3: but most of the time motherfuckers is you know, That's

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Speaker 3: why I be saying. You know, you could talk a

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Speaker 3: saying when when they're comfortable with those vices, you feel me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you being Have you ever experienced racism.

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Speaker 3: If I ever experienced, I mean I've experienced racism to

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Speaker 3: the point of uh racial profiling, you know, being a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't all feel that. I'm talking about somebody

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Speaker 3: I've never had to deal with that, you know, Thank

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Speaker 3: God that you know, I've been able to h stay

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Speaker 3: come from a different walk of life. You get me,

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Speaker 3: and I might not be necessarily the person that somebody

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Speaker 1: And you know only you know the morale of your son.

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Speaker 3: because for them to turn around and say he was

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00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 3: with other dudes in a robbery and all that shit.

434
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: But the thing is you you you don't have evidence

435
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: of a weapon and you don't have bodycam footage. So

436
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: that's what makes it suspicious on a father's behalf. You

437
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: give me, I had no answers to why you shot

438
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 3: my son. You you saying like you know and your

439
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: your your evaluation of your son is like, my son

440
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: ain't robbing no motherfucking body, you know what I'm saying.

441
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: And he definitely had no pistol unless you know your

442
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: son is in that lifestyle. So that's gonna that's gonna

443
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: fuck up ship right there. Uh, And then when you

444
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: looking for answers there or none, you give me why

445
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: you shoot my son? You say he had a gun,

446
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: but there's no gun found, and then you had no

447
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: Now we got no body cam footage, So I don't

448
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: know what the fuck y'all did. Y'all could have just

449
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 3: jumped out and just start shooting my son on the

450
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: active being on the aspect of being you know, paranoid cops.

451
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a whole bunch of look at and especially

452
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: you know with this brother, I do think it's a

453
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: mental illness thing. Man. You know, it's so much wrong

454
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: on both sides of this. Right, you got the police

455
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: once a youn' gunning down a brother they said they

456
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: had a gun, that didn't have a gun, right, and

457
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: you got to sheriff that has lost his life. You

458
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: feel what I mean that that you know he's not

459
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: coming home in his family now. I just think that

460
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: whenever you had a loss of life on both sides,

461
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: it's just a bad thing. I do think this is

462
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: a mental illness thing on out and I hope that

463
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: they don't look at this as a personal thing because

464
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: I think this man on had a mental break. He

465
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: lost his.

466
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: Son, well, definitely out of a mental break. If it's

467
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: thart process was, I'm gonna go out here, and who

468
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: knows what it is. I don't want to say that

469
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: they was planned. He could have been he could have

470
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: been fucking rolling around one day and just seeing the police,

471
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: you know, and and just snapped.

472
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: You get me.

473
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: My answer, because that's that's traumatic. You know, that's on

474
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: any parent losing their kid in the situation of being

475
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: shot and killed, you know, you know, and to be eighteen.

476
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: You get me that that's devastating. I be devastated if

477
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: something happened to my son, somebody shot and killed my

478
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: son at eighteen years old.

479
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what to deal with it.

480
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

481
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I just hoping pray that

482
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna rebut that man, that me and

483
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: you ever have to go through some shit like that,

484
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: because I don't know how I processed that.

485
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: Right, and so it's hard to say what his thought

486
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: process was.

487
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: And for the fact that you know, most of the

488
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: times you deal with these situate, these these parents who

489
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: deal with that aspect of their child going through that

490
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: gang life and being murdered and a drive by and

491
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: not getting answers or whatever. You know, this man had

492
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: the police killed him.

493
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: You get me. So you already gotten you know, there's

494
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: already that.

495
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: That love hate, you know, relationship that we as black

496
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: people have with the police.

497
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: You get me.

498
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: A feeling being felt racial profile as a as a

499
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: as a black man, and now knowing what you might

500
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: have had to go through as a young motherfucker with

501
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: the police. You just knowing in this day and age,

502
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: you got an eighteen year old son, you could just

503
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: imagine that situation right there.

504
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: So man, and I imagine they you know, that's what

505
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: I think God, that cats like me and you had

506
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: certain attributes and talent and opportunities to allow us to

507
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: take our kids out of those type of situations.

508
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's it's it's you can't prevent it. You

509
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: get me.

510
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: Growing up in the neighborhoods, you know, you gravitate to

511
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: niggas in the neighborhood. You know, those be the niggas.

512
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: You play football with the niggas, You ride bikes with

513
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: the niggas. You you know, uh go to school with

514
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: from from from elementary on up to high school and

515
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: and and so it's hard to escape that when you're

516
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: living in the neighborhood. It's a it's almost like a

517
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: right the passage. You get me, And most of the

518
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: time it don't even have to be family family affiliated.

519
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: You get me or my brother was in the gang

520
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: and then my cousin and wut you want? Sometimes just

521
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: growing up in the hood and befriended niggas from your childhood.

522
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: You know, a shit nigga.

523
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: We was in the second grade together, fifth grade together,

524
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: seventh grade together, tenth grade together, and then we live

525
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: in around the corners from each other, in the same community,

526
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: same neighborhood.

527
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: Like I said, sometimes it's just to write a passage.

528
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you figure like this, right, our sons was

529
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 2: raising suburbs, right, you know, places to where they can

530
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: go to the movies at night, and just certain stuff

531
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't happen because your son could have been just an

532
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: xority ride with some catching stolen car about man, he

533
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: could have just been up. How many times have you

534
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: found yourself cut up in situations? Dog to where was

535
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: some dumb shit that she wasn't even aware of? Motherfucker

536
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: homie ride by pick you up in a car that stolen.

537
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: You don't want nothing. Body you just cruising. Next thing

538
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: you know, he jumping out the car and everybody's running

539
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: and you running. There are so many ways, man, we

540
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: could have been cut up in the same situations coming up. Man.

541
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: Man, I used to always even though you know, you

542
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: try to raise your kids in different communities than what

543
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 3: we was raised in, I still didn't put past nothing.

544
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: You feel me.

545
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: I used to always tell them, watch out who you

546
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: hang around. Don't be a follower, be a leader. You

547
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: know shit, you know, because they're still motherfuckers, may be

548
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: feeling like because of where you live, shit might be

549
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: easier to get away with or get into.

550
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: You feel me.

551
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: So I used to always tell them, you know, That's

552
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: why I used to always try to keep them occupying

553
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 3: you get me. That was one way I felt like,

554
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: not in a sense of controlling, but I was able to,

555
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: you know, vouch for and see a lot of shit

556
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: you're getting. I saw the kids you was going to

557
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: school with. I saw the kids that you was hanging around.

558
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: Because I'm there mostly all the time, you're getting I'm

559
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: gonna pick you up from school. You know, when you're

560
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: in elementary school, when you get to motherfucking intermediate school.

561
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: You know, I'm your football coach. So once you get

562
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: out of school, you around me from the time. You know,

563
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: you go to practice all day and then by time

564
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: practice over we get home nine o'clock, it's time to

565
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: go to bid your friends. You developed through school and

566
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: through fucking playing sports, so I was able to be

567
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: a part of that. You know, growing up in the hood. Shit,

568
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 3: my influences was the niggas on the corner. It wasn't

569
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 3: the niggas out, you know, playing sports with and shit,

570
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: even though I tried that aspect. But growing up in

571
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: the hood were just moms and my sister and he

572
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 3: influences what I saw on the block. You know, it

573
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't hard for me to get

574
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: into the gang lifestyle because I was influenced by that.

575
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: So you have to be careful about, you know, your

576
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: surroundings and where you live in and all that. And

577
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: people don't think that, but being a product of your

578
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: environment is big. Yeah, it is.

579
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: It's everything, man, And that's why I thought it was

580
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: still important.

581
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: Man.

582
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: I made it actually, when I became my father, I

583
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: made it my mission to move my kids upbout the

584
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: neighborhood where they would never have to be subject to

585
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: certain things because it's just ante occurrence. Man, that's not occurrence,

586
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: you know, And you know they're sticking to man that

587
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: they didn't you know that this kid had a gun. Again,

588
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: there's no gun on the body cam fat you know footage.

589
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 2: They say it's real graining and blurry that you can't

590
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: see nothing right. And I'm not one of those people

591
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: that hate the police, man, but it seemed like we

592
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: do drop disproportionately.

593
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: As as as as I said, growing up in the

594
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: community like Compton and the stories you you hear as

595
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: a child, or what you see or what you're able

596
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: to you know, uh, what you're able to witness for

597
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: yourself now with the help of documentaries and you know,

598
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: youtubes and internets and whatever, we as black people have.

599
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: A sour taste in our mouth behind police.

600
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: That's why I you know, listen to this though bro

601
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 2: On cross examination by Bennett, BB said he would assume

602
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: Hiding Junior's source of the agitation, as Bennett put it,

603
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 2: was watching the body camera video. Nelson argued him Jors

604
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 2: in his current state is a giant mental health question

605
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: mark has clear and present danger and possessed impose the

606
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: substantial risk of physical hard and law enforcement officers into

607
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: the public is evidenced by his conduct. While Ben pointing

608
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: out that Hinting Juniors lacks any previous felt in conventions,

609
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: live in the area, and has family ties to judge

610
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: fort him to be held without bond, find it very

611
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: difficult to figure out how there could be any decision

612
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: based on what they said that would protect the public

613
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: and the defendant under these circumstances. Jay said his next

614
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: courdidate is May twelve.

615
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with the judge.

616
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: I think, in this mental state, man, who's to say

617
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: he won't get out and go run over twenty more people? Right?

618
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: This man is pissed off, he's you don't know what

619
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: state he's in. But I wouldn't keep him in jail.

620
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: I would put him somewhere for mental evaluation. That's what

621
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: he should be. You tell you, you know, when a

622
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: person is sick, you take him to the hospital, right right,

623
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 2: this man is probably experienced in grief. He has never

624
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: filed in his life before. Dog they said, the man

625
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: don't have no This is not a man who's just

626
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: been fucking up this whole life. This is a man

627
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: who lost his son and he's probably experience of grief

628
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: to the tenth power.

629
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they not on But because of the fact

630
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: that he's killed a police officer, they're not going to

631
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: go We're not going to give you no mental route.

632
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: Get me, We're not you know, they're not gonna.

633
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 3: He could have did anything but killed a police officer,

634
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: you get me. He could have ran over a you know,

635
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: or went out and you know, killed the person that

636
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: you I mean, I don't know, but killing the police

637
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: officers on a different level of of of of what

638
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: they see fit. And we're not going to let you

639
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 3: ride a mental case when you then killed a police officers.

640
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: It's not going to work. So unfortunately, I'm pretty sure

641
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: his mental state was broken for the fact that first

642
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: of all, my son is dead. Second of all, he

643
00:39:54,120 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 3: was killed by a police officer. Third, we as black

644
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: people already have a bad outlook on the police as

645
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 3: far as killing black people. So there you have another

646
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: case of the police, you know, doing bodily harm to

647
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: another young black man.

648
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen the cases over and over again.

649
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: Then it shit.

650
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: You can keep naming the issues you got no bodycam footage.

651
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: Where's the gun that you said? So, where's the pistol?

652
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: If you're saying he drew down on you and he

653
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: had a gun, where's the body Oh so all of

654
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: a sudden, nobody cam footage is grainy as blurry, but

655
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 3: there should be a weapon still, right, Yeah.

656
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: Exactly, And I would be remiss to say that this

657
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: dad probably wouldn't have acted that way had he so

658
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: is soon pull out a gun. But I'm imagining this

659
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: man looking at body cam for he's wondering why they

660
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: shoot my gun? He posed no danger to them? Why

661
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: did they kill my son?

662
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's that's that's you know, that's most

663
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: of the time, anytime the police is involved in a

664
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: in a in a shooting where there's a victim of

665
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: of of minority issues, you get me Blacks, Mexicans. It's

666
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: always the question of why you get me? Isn't that

667
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: so common with us that it's almost too common?

668
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: Bro?

669
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: When it when it involves the police and the victim

670
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: of color, it's always the aspect of why, and people

671
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: speak up on well, he wasn't no crazed as maniac

672
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 3: or his mental state. You know a lot of times

673
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: he was mentor or you know, the police didn't understand

674
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: he had a prime or whatever. H No, I mean

675
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: it's always question, like I said, when it comes to

676
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: the so so like for him and his mental status.

677
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: You never know.

678
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: But they're not going to give him the pleasure of

679
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: going to a mental institution and you know, working over

680
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 3: the aggravations of him dealing with these These are the

681
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: people who killed my son. And I'm deal with and

682
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 3: answer questions every day to why, and nobody can give

683
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: me answers, you get me. So Yeah, like I said,

684
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say that he premeditated to go out

685
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: and fuck that they killed my son. I'm finna kill

686
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: one of them, you get me. He could have been

687
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: driving down the street one day, had a break down,

688
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 3: saw police and just snapped.

689
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and that's my thing. Hey, it's a

690
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: sad situation.

691
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 3: Man.

692
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: I feel sorry man for that brother. I feel sorry

693
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: for his family. I feel feel sorry for the officer

694
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: that got ran over dog. You know, it's a lot

695
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: of people that's gonna be damaged by this. It ain't

696
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: none of it good, you.

697
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, because you know, I'm pretty sure the dude

698
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 3: had a family the officer. And you know, if if

699
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: he wasn't involved in this tragedy, uh, that just make

700
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: him an innocent victim.

701
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: You get me.

702
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying. You know, I try to

703
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 2: tell Glasses and I tell people be careful on putting

704
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: false narratives out there. Glasses told me, no, that was

705
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: the man that they shot his son. Dude, First of all,

706
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: that wasn't the man that shot his son. The man

707
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: that shot his son would have been placed on administrative

708
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 2: lead peop wouldn't have been off the directing no traffic

709
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: the next day. I don't think me not. You feel

710
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He wouldn't have been out there just

711
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: directing traffic the next day.

712
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: You know, this was this is this was an incident

713
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: of of like what they call crimes of passion. Like

714
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: I didn't plan to kill a motherfucker. I didn't plan

715
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: on a motherfucker getting hurt. It's just that I was

716
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 3: so overwhelmed with grief and then I'm I'm I'm probably

717
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: sitting at a light, you know what I'm saying, grieving

718
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: so bad and and and can't deal with the motherfucking

719
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: pressure of it. And then there before me is a

720
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: motherfucker out directing traffic.

721
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: And that's exactly.

722
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: That's no different of of you being in the courtroom

723
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 3: and they got the motherfucker who then killed your son

724
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 3: on the mother fucking you know, sitting in the shit

725
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: and you're gonna snap, You're gonna try to get to

726
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 3: that motherfucker. We've seen it numerous times on crime shows.

727
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers killer relative or a son or a daughter, and

728
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: the daddy or the brother or somebody coming there and

729
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: the first thing they do is take a leap of

730
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: faith to try to get their hands on the motherfucker.

731
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 3: So who knows how dad was feeling about the loss

732
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 3: of his son.

733
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: And you know, you were smart, dude, bro, just by

734
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: seeing that that whole thing was a particular homicide. Lets

735
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: you know right there that he wasn't probably planning on

736
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: killing nobody. He was driving so that officer and just

737
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 2: want to hit his ads.

738
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you're saying, it's a spare of the

739
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: moment crime and passion. I'm in the heat of passion

740
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: type shit, like I didn't wake up this morning and

741
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: going I'm finna just go you get me.

742
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: Like when you do stuff like that, you always a

743
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: state you can get guns real eas it. You got

744
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: access to gun, I please it or right, But but

745
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: still look at the way that the crime that went down.

746
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: It was a traffic type of shit where nigga was

747
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: out directing traffic and he got hit. You know, the

748
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: nigga didn't wake up this morning like I'm finna drive

749
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: around and look for motherfuckers directing traffic and whoever I find,

750
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 3: I'm finna.

751
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: Just get me. No.

752
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 3: I woke up grieving missing my son, having real hateful,

753
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: real you know, towards the police department. I'm not getting

754
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 3: no answers. I'm grieving, I'm grieving, I'm so hurt. I

755
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: don't know what the fuck to do. I'm at that

756
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 3: point of no return, like I don't know these motherfucking

757
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: now my mother. The fucking hatred towards the police is

758
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 3: just getting more and more and more as every day

759
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 3: passes with no answers of why my son was killed.

760
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: And now I just happened to be able to stop

761
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: light and the motherfucker's directing traffic and I'm and it

762
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: just overwhelms me to where, yeah, because I can't see

763
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: him trying to execute that crime and know he gon

764
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: get cut. Right he was planning it, I would have think, Okay, man,

765
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get my art and I'm gonna get my

766
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 3: ear fifteen. I'm just gonna post up on this building

767
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: across street and the police station, and as soon as

768
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: I do, come on, I'm gonna go them have it.

769
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna be three blocks up the roads.

770
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: You know.

771
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of times the motherfuckers with plans planning

772
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: to get away, right, Yeah, you don't.

773
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: Exactly.

774
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna plan some shit out to get caught.

775
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 3: If I'm planning some ship, I plan to get the

776
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: fuck away. So you know, if if if I just

777
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: wake up this morning, jump in my car and decide

778
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: like fuck it, I see somebody.

779
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: And that's it, then.

780
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: There's there's there's a chance I'm gonna get caught at

781
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: the scene, or a motherfucker gonna follow me, or they

782
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 3: got a description of the.

783
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: Vehicle and all that.

784
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: You know, when you make a plan, you plan to

785
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: go scott free, or you plan to get away with

786
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: the crime. So it's gonna be thought out a little

787
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: bit more than just you know, barreling through an intersection

788
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: and taking somebody's life.

789
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: You get me that that's that's not a plan.

790
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's said, man, it's said, you know what I

791
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: want to ask you though, Man, you know, prayers man

792
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: for that man and his family. Man, and they share

793
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: his family as they go through this ordeal, man, because

794
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: this is quite one of the most fun the things

795
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: I don't seen in the world. Though. It's just said, like.

796
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 3: I said, it's it's a it's a fucked up situation.

797
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: And like I said, I've had run ins with the police. Uh,

798
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: so I can understand, uh as a father, his his

799
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: blatant hatred towards the situation.

800
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

801
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: But then again, you know, a motherfucker who got up

802
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 3: this morning to go you know, direct traffic probably wasn't

803
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: thinking like today a motherfucker finn come through here and

804
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: hit me and take me away from my family and kids.

805
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 2: And they said the dude exactly, And they said the

806
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 2: dude had been in the force for a long time,

807
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: so if he were doing traffic duty, that meant he

808
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: was like at that stage of his career to where

809
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: he's doing kickback stuff. He cat.

810
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: I'm winding down, you know, out here patrolling and looking

811
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: for drug dealers and gang bangers and doing all that shit.

812
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: I'm doing traffic stops and motherfucking directed traffic when lights

813
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: and accidents go down.

814
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: So you know, like.

815
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: It's just unfortunately, I said, We've had our runnings with

816
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: the police. We've had, you know, difficult situations of just

817
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: being a black man and getting profiled and you know

818
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: and all that.

819
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: But you know, I know dudes who are police officers.

820
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: You know, I've coached with dudes whose.

821
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 3: Sons have played on my teams who have been officers,

822
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: and you know, you've gotten no dudes and dudes have

823
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: been cool. You know, It's unfortunate.

824
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: I grew up in a.

825
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: Time where you know, gang banging and being black and

826
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 3: being profiled in the area where which was considered.

827
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: You know, hostile is what I had to go through.

828
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't I.

829
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: Don't consider you know, where I live or where you

830
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: know I raised my son that I'm gonna go through

831
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 3: a situation of being at the liquor store getting profiled

832
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 3: or whatever. I look to be treated as a regular.

833
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

834
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: You know, man, you feel me color of my skin,

835
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: you know.

836
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: So, Uh, nobody wishes that motherfucker who got up and

837
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 3: punched the clock this morning lose their life because you

838
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 3: said it's unfortunate. He just happened to be a part

839
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: of a membership. You get me. That's like, you know,

840
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: not to make jokes, but that's just like game life.

841
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: You feel me, Nigga, come when smoked one of the

842
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: homies ship were gonna go through, and unfortunately, if you're

843
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 3: part of that, that game, you might lose your life.

844
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 3: You it might you you might not beating who came

845
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 3: through and killed the homie, but you're still representing from

846
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: over there. So if we come through and you just

847
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: happen to be a motherfucker out there, you gonna get

848
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: caught too. Bully, Bully don't got no name. You feel me,

849
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 3: you're part of that motherfucker is set. So one of

850
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 3: y'all did it, and that's unfortunately. You know, That's how

851
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: my man looked at it, you know, And I think

852
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: it was some I think it was some spur of

853
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: the moment. But man, in our last few minutes, man,

854
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: I want to get into something a little bit lighter.

855
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 3: You've been in the entertainment game a long time, man,

856
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 3: do you think the Kanye is.

857
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 2: Losing it a little bit as far as what his

858
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: rants and all. Yeah, like it don't like something's mentally

859
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: wrong with him.

860
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody you know, uh.

861
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 3: Has had you know, has questioned his his his state

862
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: since the passing of his mother. You get me, And

863
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 3: we don't know, you know, how what that did to

864
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 3: his mental state. A lot of people have he and

865
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: shit that goes on. I don't know if the nigga

866
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: taken drugs or you know, we don't know if he's

867
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: just whatever. There hasn't been any real professional diagnosis of

868
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: his condition, you get me. So people let Kanye be

869
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 3: and just let him run his mouth, because again, he

870
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: is a nigga sitting on a billion dollars. So a

871
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: lot of times when you're in those positions, people that

872
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: you rant for some reason.

873
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said he went off on Piers Morgan on

874
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: his show, and I wonder sometimes how this is impacting

875
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: his record seals, if they are impacting his record seals.

876
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: I know, I don't need to sell a record. I

877
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: already got a billion dollars. What else do I need

878
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: to do at this point? I'm just doing shit to

879
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: be doing it, you get me. And that's what he does.

880
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 3: He does shit just to be doing it. When you

881
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: and nigga that's sitting on a billion dollars when you

882
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 3: a nigga that's sitting on five hundred million dollars, Like, like,

883
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 3: what do you really need to do?

884
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 2: Ever?

885
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: Again?

886
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 3: If you have someone that's in your just one motherfucker

887
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 3: who's smart enough to know, let me do this, let

888
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: me put this up, let's do this, let me do this.

889
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 3: You know somebody like you, For instance, if you was

890
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: around a motherfucker who was sitting on a billion dollars

891
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 3: and they people thought they was crazy as fucking all

892
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,479
Speaker 3: kind of whatever whatever, but you had the mind state

893
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: you have as.

894
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: A good dude, there's always gonna be some security.

895
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: You get me.

896
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: Nigga's never gonna go broke. It's always gonna you get

897
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: me this this.

898
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 3: I don't give fuck if the nigga never sold another

899
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: record or made another teny shoe. He has made enough

900
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 3: motherfucking money to where if there's the right person around.

901
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep that shit going forever. You feel me?

902
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 3: So, like, really, like when you say, does it fuck

903
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: with his record sales? Or does it fuck with his

904
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: shoe sales? Or does it fuck with Kanye been ranting

905
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 3: and raven for about the last ten years now, what

906
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: has it fucked with?

907
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: You know what?

908
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: Because he's still around here, random Raven.

909
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: He like, again, he's been rand and raving for about

910
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: the last ten years.

911
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 3: What has it from the time he started jumping on

912
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 3: the stages and said motherfucking bushing him didn't like black people.

913
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: And all that crazy shit, what has it stopped? Financially? Financially,

914
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: what has it stopped?

915
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: It ain't really stop nothing. Speaking of financially, you know,

916
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: Jay said he lost almost two hundred million dollars because

917
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: you know, he's suing that girl. He's like, has he

918
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: has a lossuit going on with the girl who accused

919
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: him of rape and that attorney right right right, and

920
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: he's going after them. Ole said he lost two hundred

921
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 2: million dollars messing with that man, like because of that

922
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: all that.

923
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you gotta figure business deals and investors and

924
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: people like that are gonna be afraid to fuck with

925
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 3: you on certain shit so you can have deals on

926
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 3: the table. Nigga worked millions and people are gonna pull

927
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 3: out certain shit, you get.

928
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 2: It just just because of the word, not necessarily because

929
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 2: it's true or no facts behind it. They just go

930
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 2: this is themselves because don't nobody want to get caught

931
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: up in the beginning.

932
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: That's like you, you sitting on a you sitting on

933
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 3: a billion couple of billion dollar corporation. You're finna invest

934
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 3: in this dude, and you fina hand this dude one

935
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 3: hundred million. Right before you finish hand him one hundred million,

936
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: you hear an allegation of rape and all this stupid

937
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: shit with Puffy and whatever. Whatever, you're finna give him

938
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 3: a hundred million.

939
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: You know what, Probably not, man, it probably wouldn't be

940
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: a good business move.

941
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: That's what you're gonna say.

942
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 3: At this time, we're gonna hold off and we're gonna

943
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 3: see how this played out, and then maybe on in

944
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 3: the future down the road, will will look back into

945
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: this venture. But at this time I don't want to

946
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: invest a hundred million getting into a motherfucker who somebody

947
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 3: say rape them, that that ugly.

948
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: Ho hoves go sue the ship off this woman. Man,

949
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: he's a serious whether whether if whether it comes out true,

950
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: I mean not true, and you didn't do it whatever,

951
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: Just the stain of of of me going through with

952
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: the deal while this is going on, it's gonna have

953
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: me being frowned upon by certain people, like like he

954
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 2: supposedly did this and you gave him a hundred million,

955
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: Like how dare you? Like you invest in rapists and

956
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: shit like that. So now I can't do that shit.

957
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep my one hundred million right now.

958
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: And like I said, maybe down the road will come

959
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 3: back around when it's when the funk then died out

960
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: and not too many people or you know, but while

961
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: this whole thing is going on, and you might not

962
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 3: be involved or it might be false allegations. But with

963
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 3: the puffy shit and then all this other shit, I

964
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: can't get my hands on. I can't touch that hot

965
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: potato right now.

966
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: And that's why I really think they need to start

967
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: having stifferd penalties for people with these false claims of

968
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: slander people's names and then you know, coming out with

969
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: stuff just to try to gain some money for monetary games.

970
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: I think those people need to have criminal charges brought against.

971
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: Them what some people do when it comes to blackmail

972
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 3: and doing shit like that. But that's the new aspect

973
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 3: of shit today. The new aspect of shit is it

974
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 3: don't have to be true. All I have to do

975
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: is bring up the accusations that it might have happened,

976
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 3: and it's gonna it you know it didn't happen, but

977
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: then there's gonna be a motherfucker that tell you maybe

978
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 3: you just want to pay this motherfucker off about five

979
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 3: or ten million because you.

980
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: They fuck there. You see the shit going on with

981
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: Shannon Shot right.

982
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: Now, I'm saying you don't want that stain because look

983
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 3: at what happens in the backlash of just the accusation.

984
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: There ain't been no court coming out yet.

985
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 3: Everything is just being settle settled because once it comes out,

986
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 3: these million dollar motherfuckers, they ain't gonna want to fuck

987
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 3: with you.

988
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: So just think about it. Get a bit five million,

989
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: so she just go away.

990
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 3: If you saying did nothing happen and everything was consentu fine,

991
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 3: but but the stain of going through the process is

992
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 3: gonna fuck you because people are gonna start doing this

993
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 3: with your contracts.

994
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: Well, that concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast.

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