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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Ack in our number two Tuesday edition Clay Travis

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Speaker 2: Buck Sexton Show. Hope all of you are having fantastic

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Speaker 2: Search out my name Clay Travis, Search out Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: All right, a couple of things here, Buck. We said

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Speaker 2: we were going to talk about the current state of

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Speaker 2: the Republican race, and this poll just popped from New

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Speaker 2: Hampshire and it shows that Donald Trump has a big lead.

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Speaker 2: This is New Hampshire specific, not generic based. This says

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Speaker 2: Trump has forty seven percent of the vote. Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 2: nineteen percent, Chris Christy at six percent, Nicky Haley five,

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Speaker 2: Tim Scott four, Vivi Gramaswami at two, Pence at two,

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Speaker 2: Hutchinson at two, Burgham at two.

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Speaker 1: All right by and large, correct me if you think

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong on this. No one is.

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Speaker 2: Able to even get close to double digits other than

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Speaker 2: Trump and DeSantis. At what point, Buck, does the conversation

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Speaker 2: have to shift as we move through the summer, with

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Speaker 2: the presumption that a lot of these numbers are not

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Speaker 2: going to change very much, When are people going to

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Speaker 2: start dropping out?

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Speaker 1: Because I want to play this audio for you.

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Speaker 2: At this point in time, it seems quite clear that

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Speaker 2: everybody wants the attention of running for president, even if

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Speaker 2: they have no real shot at being president. And the

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Speaker 2: latest person to decide to throw his hat into the

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Speaker 2: ring as a mayor of Miami Francis Suarez, and he

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Speaker 2: was asked about the Wigers. Hey, what percentage, Buck, of

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Speaker 2: our audience do you think would know what the who

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Speaker 2: the Wigers are? Seventy five percent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, our people know the wigas in China? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Because we talk about it in the context of like

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Speaker 1: woke Disney and woke Apple pretending to care so much

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Speaker 1: about human rights here in America, where human rights are

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Speaker 1: so challenged, you know, because we don't want transgender ten

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Speaker 1: year olds to be getting state funded surgery. Meanwhile, there

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Speaker 1: are concentration camps for Wigers in Western China. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: our people have heard of this for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think seventy five percent, and that might

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Speaker 2: be low. But if you're running for president of the

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Speaker 2: United States, the idea that you wouldn't know that the

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Speaker 2: Chinese government is guilty of human rights violations and they

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Speaker 2: are putting a weager population into concentration camps, to me, frankly,

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Speaker 2: would be the kind of thing that is disqualifying. You

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Speaker 2: just don't even know enough about what's going on in

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Speaker 2: the world. Well, didn't go well for Miami's mayor, who

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Speaker 2: was asked about this yesterday on the Hugh Hewitt Show.

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Speaker 1: Here's what it sounded like. Will you'd be talking about

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Speaker 1: the Wigers in your campaign?

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Speaker 3: What the Wigers? What's a Weiker? You gave me homework, Hugh.

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Speaker 3: I'll look at what it was. What you call it

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Speaker 3: a webel?

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Speaker 4: You really need to know about the Wigers, Mayor, You

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Speaker 4: got to talk about it every day, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I will, I will talk about I will so, I

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Speaker 3: will search Wigers. I'm a good learner. I'm a fast learner,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: To me, Like it's rare you hear a question that

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Speaker 2: is so poorly handled that it ends a campaign. Some

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Speaker 2: of you would say Mike Pence on this show as

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Speaker 2: an example, but that was buck to me. That's embarrassing

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Speaker 2: to be running for the office of the presidency. China

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Speaker 2: is our biggest geopolitical rival, and to not even know

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Speaker 2: the bare minimum about what the Chinese government is doing. Now,

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Speaker 2: I get it, he's the mayor of Miami, and it

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Speaker 2: might not be that important for the mayor of Miami

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Speaker 2: to know that, although I would argue, as a reasonably

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Speaker 1: You have a lot of refugees specifically that's from communist hellholes.

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Speaker 2: I would think Miami's mayor should be more cognizant of that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, does any would really think

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I just think that this is

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Speaker 1: I did vote for Gary Johns. Wow. See, so you

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Speaker 2: It's true, It's true. I was willing to vote for

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Speaker 2: Gary Johnson. So that was amazing too, because he was

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Speaker 2: really like Johnson was like, what is a Leppo?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: At that point a Leppo was the biggest news story

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Speaker 2: So I think the question here though, you got all

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Speaker 2: these people getting two and three percent of the vote, right,

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Speaker 2: two three percent, But if you've got ten of them,

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Speaker 2: that adds up to thirty percent of the vote.

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Speaker 1: What is the mechanism.

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Speaker 2: By which the RNC is going to try to force

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Speaker 2: I have to check and see there. There's definitely some

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Speaker 2: You have to get x number of donors and a

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Speaker 2: be in the debates. Yeah, look, we have the primary

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Speaker 2: process we have allows for a lot of people to

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Speaker 2: be fair, there was a time when people didn't take

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Speaker 1: Oh you know run So he was never at two

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Speaker 1: I think of people now from all different walks of life,

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's sort of like me saying I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: training to, you know, be in like mister Olympia. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: going to be mister Olympia. Unfortunately, definitely not like RFK

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Speaker 1: Junior is. Hey, what's it? What I want to know

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Speaker 1: what RFK Junior's taken. Doesn't like the vaccines that much,

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Speaker 1: but definitely like some other stuff. He is super ripped.

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Speaker 1: I think he's seventy and he wasn't ripped before. So,

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Speaker 1: like I said, worried about what's in the vaccines. But

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Speaker 1: it's not just chicken breast. That's all I'm saying. I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: I yesterday I told you that I thought that Biden

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Speaker 2: would not be the nominee, and I'm sticking by that.

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Speaker 1: Are you one hundred percent in your mind that it

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Speaker 1: comes from now? Because remember there's a few different possibilities.

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Speaker 1: There is the Special Council leaked it, or you know,

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Speaker 1: somebody in the DOJ process leaked it yep, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: mean will they play that dirty? Yes? Is that a

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Speaker 1: little risky? Maybe one of the people present, I mean,

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Speaker 1: who was somebody else was the one recording Trump in

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Speaker 1: the first place and had this and maybe shared it

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Speaker 1: even prior to the special counsel demanding it, right, That's

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Speaker 1: another bit that's I think a possibility. And then what's

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Speaker 1: being floated online, which is that Trump's team shared it

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Speaker 1: after they got disclosure, so that they can then claim

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Speaker 1: a corrupted or tainted rather jury pool and call for

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Speaker 1: a dismissal. Did you are you very confident in which

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Speaker 1: one of those options?

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Speaker 2: So I do not think it's Trump's team. And let

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Speaker 2: me tell you why I don't think it's Trump's team.

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Speaker 2: If you are right now Trump's lawyer. All of Trump's

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Speaker 2: lawyers are getting investigated aggressively by the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 2: So if you're on his legal team, the last thing

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Speaker 2: you want is to get charged with leaking this information,

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Speaker 2: which I think the government would be inclined to do,

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Speaker 2: and I think the warriors who are repping Trump would

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Speaker 2: know that that's likely to happen. So I would bet

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Speaker 2: that the source here was the initial taper or someone

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Speaker 2: that got a version of the initial tape.

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Speaker 1: That's what That's honestly what I think. I think too.

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Speaker 1: I think the initial group that was there, someone there

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Speaker 1: maybe even gave it to someone before it was clear

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Speaker 1: that you know that that that your chain of custody

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Speaker 1: here isn't small enough that you could say with total specificity.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I don't think it's the Trump team. I

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Speaker 1: think that's unlikely. But whether it's some of the other

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Speaker 2: I think the government wouldn't leak this, in particular because

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Speaker 2: they've already got their version of this story out there,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know that the audio changes it that much,

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Speaker 1: In fact, I would argue that the audio actually.

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Speaker 2: Helps Trump because it makes it clear to me that

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Speaker 2: this is not some nefarious, planned attempt to leak classified information.

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Speaker 2: It's just Trump kind of sitting around telling stories in

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Speaker 2: a jocular manner where it isn't that negative, ill like

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Speaker 2: evil intent.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense, Yeah, I mean the whole Also,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people will say, all right, I mean

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Speaker 1: he had the power to declassify, you know, if he

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Speaker 1: waved his hand over it and said I therefore declassify

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Speaker 1: or not. Does it really make all that much difference

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Speaker 1: now where the government's going to come in and say

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Speaker 1: that the Presidential Records Act only covers truly personal documents.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't include agency You know, if you have like

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Speaker 1: the CIA's crown Jewels, whatever those may be, you don't

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Speaker 1: get to take those home with you after the presidency

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Speaker 1: just because you say so. That's how this is going

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Speaker 1: to be fought out in I think. But again, people too,

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Speaker 1: no one is seeing this and saying, oh my, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, you know, just like but no Democrats, no

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Speaker 1: Democrats seeing that Hunter Biden clearly committed tax frauds, sold

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Speaker 1: out the country, did tax of asion, wire fraud, all

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Speaker 1: these things, got a sweetheart deal. They're not like, oh

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Speaker 1: this is too much for me, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't change anything.

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Speaker 2: I also think, buck from a legal argument perspective, even

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Speaker 2: the fact that Trump says I couldn't declassify this. Remember

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Speaker 2: this tape is from allegedly July twenty twenty one. It's

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Speaker 2: two years now. Since this was not a dispute with

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Speaker 2: the United States government at that time. Trump can get

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Oh my gosh, thank y'all for having the really

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much for joining us, and thank

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Speaker 1: you for your service. You know, we've been talking a

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Speaker 3: This, Well, well, larkam down. This is very simple. I've

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Speaker 3: The one thing that really strikes me as being interesting

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Speaker 2: We're talking right now with Congressman Wesley Hunt of Texas.

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Speaker 2: What do you think should happen? You're right, this clear

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Speaker 3: Yes, all the above, And I think some of these

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Speaker 3: Look at this week, President, this is the worst polling

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Speaker 1: For way less, we're speaking of Texas Congressman Wesley Hunt

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Speaker 3: The discussion that we're going to be having over the

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Speaker 2: Congressman, you're a black Republican. I'm sure you get tired

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Speaker 2: when you see attacks like Barack Obama? I'm sure you

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Speaker 3: People like may have got get to speak up and

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Speaker 3: Because I'm a West Point graduate, I earned three master's

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Speaker 3: that could be good leaders for the future, and how

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Speaker 3: we pick the best people based on their merit, not

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Speaker 3: based on the way they look.

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Speaker 1: And Congressman, we wanted to ask you also, I know

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Speaker 1: that you're interested in as we're going to the Independence

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Speaker 1: Day weekend coming up, just the concept of American pride.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so you could imagine somebody like me love this country.

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Speaker 3: This is the greatest country in the world. I'm a

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Speaker 3: west Point graduate, my brother is a west Point graduate,

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Speaker 3: this country, you could be whatever you want in America

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Speaker 3: if you have hard work, great determination, and yeah, you're

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Speaker 3: gonna have some tough times, but America is the greatest

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Speaker 3: place in the world. So if we have a month

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Speaker 3: like Black History Month that I don't mind celebrating. Hell,

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Speaker 3: I'm a black guy, but that here is the only

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Speaker 3: thirteen percent of the population. If we just had Pride

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Speaker 3: Month last week, that's listen, center percent of the population

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Speaker 3: that that's about. If we have a woman's month in March,

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Speaker 3: which is half our population, you know what, how about

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Speaker 3: we have a month celebrating America. That's everybody in this country.

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Speaker 3: Let's celebrate our progress. Let's celebrate how far we've come.

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Speaker 3: And while we are not perfect, this is still the

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Speaker 3: greatest country in the world. And we should be in

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Speaker 3: the business of teaching our children why that's the case,

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Speaker 3: so we can build on this progress moving forward. If

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Speaker 3: we can't give a month to all these other causes,

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Speaker 3: I don't understand why we can't give a month to

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Speaker 3: Old Glory. And I want to see butt light, and

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Speaker 3: I want to see Target, and I want to see

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Speaker 3: all these other wop corporations wave Old Glory in the

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Speaker 3: same way as they're waving the gay Ride flag. And

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Speaker 3: I want to know how patriot to guard you? Do

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Speaker 3: you really believe in America? Do you believe in patriotism?

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Speaker 3: And if you're not, we're going to expose you.

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Speaker 1: Love it. Congress, then appreciate you being with us here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on the program any time.

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Speaker 2: Walk back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show book. Over

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Speaker 2: the weekend, there were a ton of videos shared of

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Speaker 2: Pride events all over the country. I think New York

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Speaker 2: City and Seattle prominent among them, but more cities than

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Speaker 2: that where substantial numbers of people marching in the Pride

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Speaker 2: event ended up naked. And there were lots of kids

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Speaker 2: around at these Pride events as well. And left wingers

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Speaker 2: have basically bent all over themselves trying to defend the

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Speaker 2: idea of having nudity at these different events.

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Speaker 1: But just and I know a lot of you out there.

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Speaker 2: In fact, they even criticized They even criticized the sharing

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Speaker 2: of videos showing the nudity on social media because they

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Speaker 2: said that was inappropriate, but not being naked in front

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Speaker 2: of kids. So I just I got a question for

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Speaker 2: you and Jaim can I can I read the tweet

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Speaker 2: that this resists million times?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this went very viral. It's from someone named

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Speaker 1: Brian Krasenstein. Do you know this person? I've never I don't.

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Speaker 1: I know he's left winger. I think I saw this tweet.

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Speaker 1: That's definitely the case. Yeah, he writes, Number one, seeing

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Speaker 1: a man naked on a bike isn't going to have

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Speaker 1: much of an impact on any kid. They have likely

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Speaker 1: seen their father or brother naked before. Number two. Weird angle, Yes,

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Speaker 1: weird angle. Number two, Sharing an uncensored video of a

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Speaker 1: naked man on a bike to an audience of possibly

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Speaker 1: thirty million kids on Twitter is arguably worse than riding

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Speaker 1: a bike naked in front of a kid or two

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Speaker 1: in a planned event that the parents' kids took them.

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Speaker 1: Two three. There are much worse things the average kid

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Speaker 1: will see or hear online. Okay, okay, okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's deal with this for a second. First off,

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Speaker 1: walking around in a parade with your junk hanging out

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Speaker 1: is different than oh, you know, my dad or my

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Speaker 1: brother just walked out of the shower in a private

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Speaker 1: residence and is like about to put his towel on.

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Speaker 1: These are not the same, correct correct. One is exhibitionism.

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Speaker 1: The other is people living their lives in the privacy

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Speaker 1: of their home. And the other part of this I

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Speaker 1: think is so interesting is that the sharing of it

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Speaker 1: online is the problem. The reason why they're taking this

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Speaker 1: approach on the left is they realize people saw a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff in these Pride parades that is just inexcusable.

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Speaker 1: That's just where this is. The more people see this,

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Speaker 1: the more they see people dressed. Andy Know was sharing

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Speaker 1: this from his account. Andy Know is out by the way,

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Speaker 1: and you know is a very intrepid journalist, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he covers these he covers these issues, he covers antifo,

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Speaker 1: he covers a lot of left wing activity. But other

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Speaker 1: people were sharing it on their Twitter accounts as well.

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Speaker 1: And what you see is people dressed in bondage gear

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Speaker 1: dancing around in public naked. Now that's not everybody I know.

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Speaker 1: There are people that are just waving a flag and

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Speaker 1: walking normally whatever. But no other parade has this display

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Speaker 1: of bondage gear and nudity as a regular occurrence. And

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Speaker 1: it is my gay friends who are the ones who

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Speaker 1: are saying more loudly than anyone else. Clay, hold on

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Speaker 1: a second, Guys and gals, this is getting a little

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Speaker 1: bit extreme. It's super weird. Let's just be honest and

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Speaker 1: say it. Call it for what it is.

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Speaker 2: If you went to a July fourth parade in next week,

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Speaker 2: and you know it starts off with American flags and

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Speaker 2: then suddenly there were naked people.

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Speaker 1: If you just ran down the street in Nashville dressed

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Speaker 1: as naked Uncle Sam for Fourth of July, I don't

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Speaker 1: think people would think that was cool.

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Speaker 2: You would get arrested because you would be engaging in

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Speaker 2: public indecency. So is this a sign buck that basically

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Speaker 2: people are so afraid of being called homophobic that they

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Speaker 2: don't eat even enforce basic laws.

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Speaker 1: Because I think it is. I think this is a

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Speaker 1: sign of of.

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Speaker 2: Actual incredible power that these different identity groups have, because

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Speaker 2: there's a fear that if you do something, if you say, hey,

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Speaker 2: maybe you should be clothed for the gay Pride parade,

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Speaker 2: it's like you're a homophobe, You're a bigot. This is

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Speaker 2: unacceptable and as a result, and you made no better

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Speaker 2: than me. Because it's in New York, Is this normal?

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Speaker 2: Like yes, hey, I don't get this. Like ten years

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Speaker 2: ago people were walking around thee So I will.

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Speaker 1: Tell you I lived in both DC and New York

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Speaker 1: on the Pride parade route, which there are other parades.

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Speaker 2: It's not an acceleration. This has been going on for

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Speaker 2: some time. Like the nudity, you.

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Speaker 1: Think it might be an acceleration, but you see stuff

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Speaker 1: at the Pride parade every and produce, you know, the producers,

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Speaker 1: and you're shaking their heads. Yes too. In New York.

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Speaker 1: You see stuff that you would never see any other parade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you know this is also where you know there's

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Speaker 1: I saw like Douglas Murray, who's uh, gay guy, author,

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Speaker 1: brilliant English guy. You've probably seen he's Fox News contryl Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know he was talking about this, I think on

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Speaker 1: Piers Morgan show that. So, so you have this this

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Speaker 1: interesting situation where the post Oberga fell. You've had gay

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Speaker 1: marriage legalized, and you had overwhelming support for for a

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Speaker 1: gay marriage, and with that has come a lot of

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Speaker 1: gay couples, either adopting or through surrogacy, you know, raising

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Speaker 1: children of their own. And everyone sort of looks around.

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Speaker 1: They're like, all right, so we're all in. We're all

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Speaker 1: in the same page, gay stray whatever about protecting children, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you say, well, we'll hold on a second. The

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Speaker 1: transactivists within the l g p t q I A community,

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Speaker 1: they're actually not on the same page as parents, you know,

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Speaker 1: straight or gay parents that I know, right, And when

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Speaker 1: it comes to things like public displays of adult nudity

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Speaker 1: in front of small children. We're all supposed to agree, right,

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Speaker 1: the gay parents, the straight parents, the kids shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: seeing this, right and that that is the case. But

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Speaker 1: the activists, or I think is increasingly going to be

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Speaker 1: the case. The activists from within the LGBTU t Quia

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Speaker 1: community are very insistent on pushing this stuff, and you

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Speaker 1: have to ask, why is that? How hard would it

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Speaker 1: be to say, guys, we're not going to do the

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Speaker 1: naked truly by the just arm is clear. I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking about shirt lists. It's not like people are at

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Speaker 1: the beach or whatever. We're not a bunch of Puritans

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Speaker 1: over here. We're talking about dudes riding around in bondage

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Speaker 1: gear with their genitals hanging out. That's strange in their

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Speaker 1: children present.

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Speaker 2: This is impossible, and I don't understand why it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be prosecuted. Why some places it's actually like it's legal

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Speaker 2: in New York City for I mean for women to

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Speaker 2: walk around top us. I don't know if public nudity

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Speaker 2: here is even There are different laws in different places

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Speaker 2: around it. I'm not even forget about the legal aspect

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Speaker 2: of it. Like we should all be able to say Hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: that's not cool.

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Speaker 1: Why are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I agree, but I'm saying the way to change it

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Speaker 2: to me would have to be to pross cute somebody.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's not gonna I think San Francisco, you're allowed

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Speaker 1: to be naked just to be clear on the street,

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Speaker 1: like you're allowed to walk around naked. I think we

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Speaker 1: should check this. I could be wrong. I think in

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Speaker 1: Seattle it may be the same thing far left wing cities.

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Speaker 1: I know, public you're a nation in New York is

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Speaker 1: no longer illegal, right, So that used to be a

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Speaker 1: thing that gets you on that's a that's a crime

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Speaker 1: I've committed. So I well, but I'm just saying, like, like,

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Speaker 1: these laws vary in place to place, depending on right.

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Speaker 2: But the idea that you would do be in a

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Speaker 2: parade naked as a part I would have to think

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Speaker 2: that there are I know this a lot of gay

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Speaker 2: people that listen to this show that also think, like

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Speaker 2: this is not a trajectory that the gay pride universe.

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Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm saying, Like, you know, we know,

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Speaker 1: you know friend friends of the show who are out

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Speaker 1: there in conservative media world who are gay. Some of

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Speaker 1: them have talked to me in recent weeks about this.

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Speaker 1: I mean Chadwick Moore, for example, who's running The Tucker

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Speaker 1: I've interviewed him on so that's a perfect example. I've

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Speaker 1: in him recently the podcast. He's like, there's something wrong here.

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Speaker 1: The activists are calling the shots and you know the community,

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Speaker 1: your day to day you know, run of the mill

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Speaker 1: gay guy or gay couple. They're like, Eh, they're scared

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Speaker 1: in some cases of being targeted as like not down

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Speaker 1: for the struggle, for speaking out against the trans issue

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Speaker 1: and against this. I mean this pride parade thing that

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Speaker 1: it's not in one city, this is in many cities

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Speaker 1: that you see this stuff going on. They're like, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to speak out against it because it's

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Speaker 1: viewed as a betrayal of the community by the activists.

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Speaker 1: And you sit there and you're like, well, what are

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Speaker 1: the activists doing? Like what what's wrong with them?

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Speaker 2: I am far from an expert in the LGBTQ quota,

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Speaker 2: DA D whatever the letters are community. Okay, so take

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Speaker 2: this with a grain of salt. It seems to me

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Speaker 2: Buck like we are headed for some sort of internal

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Speaker 2: family few in the gay community where people who are

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Speaker 2: just want to be able to date and hang out

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Speaker 2: with whoever they want.

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Speaker 1: Are also really rapidly opposed.

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Speaker 2: To the idea of men wearing you know, bondage gear

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Speaker 2: and dancing in front of kids.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, So, so what Doug Murray brought up is

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Speaker 1: that there's actually been a decline recently again going to this,

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Speaker 1: I saw this clip on Piers Morgan show. Uh, there's

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Speaker 1: a decline in public support for gay marriage, and he

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Speaker 1: was saying that this is viewed as Okay, the slippery

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Speaker 1: slope got really slippery at the bottom here with things

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Speaker 1: going really out of control and fast, and people are

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Speaker 1: starting to see this and they're realizing something is going on.

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Speaker 1: And the real the red line, it's really the only

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Speaker 1: red line that's left is we all we are we

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Speaker 1: all agree on protecting kids, right, we all agree that

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Speaker 1: there's we're supposed to we all agree that kids. First

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Speaker 1: of all, you know, there's there's a need to protect

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Speaker 1: them in terms of consent to sexual activity, because that's

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Speaker 1: a concern that's out there now. People are raising you know,

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Speaker 1: they're these groups hoops that are trying to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we need to like change the age and stuff. That's

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Speaker 1: that gets people, you know, five alarms.

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Speaker 2: The age buck not like eighteen to seventeen, right, Like

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Speaker 2: we're talking about like drop way way than like yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yes that is that is out. You'll see that pop

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Speaker 1: up here and there. There's even an acronym now that

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Speaker 1: they use for people that The point is, whether it's

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Speaker 1: you know, gender transition surgery for kids, it's sexualization of children,

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Speaker 1: exposing children people. This is a red line. And we

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Speaker 1: you know, and all the parents out there get this.

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Speaker 1: And this is where you're going to have I think

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Speaker 1: people that are going to have to break from whatever

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Speaker 1: the expectation is of them from the activists in the

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Speaker 1: you know, the gay community broadly speaking, meaning the LGBTQIA

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Speaker 1: plus community. We gotta draw the line here. A fifty

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Speaker 1: year it wasn't one. It was a bunch of them.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of them, a bunch of like

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Speaker 1: middle aged dudes waving their junk around in public and

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Speaker 1: dressing in leather and s and m gear and stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's not you know, when there are kids in the

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Speaker 1: audience and there are other people there, that's not appropriate.

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Speaker 1: It's not appropriate for anyone of any persuasion to be

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Speaker 1: doing in front of kids. That's just that's got to

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Speaker 1: be the red line, and it seems like there's a

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Speaker 1: fight over this coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also, Buck, as we go to break here,

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Speaker 2: does anyone actually think that the gay community is super

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Speaker 2: marginalized now? Because I mean, are there people legitimately who

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Speaker 2: are terrified to admit that they are gay living in

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Speaker 2: New York City or Seattle? Like is there a single

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Speaker 2: person in those cities?

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Speaker 1: And the point actually, if you if you oppose gay

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Speaker 1: marriage a decade ago, you might get fired, lose your job,

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Speaker 1: and be unhirable for the rest of your life. That's

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Speaker 1: actually that's how our dynamic in the country. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so Barack Obama posed gay marriage, but that was

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Speaker 1: okay because we had to get a left wing you know,

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Speaker 1: socialist elected.

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Speaker 2: But the way you break all this down, I just

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Speaker 2: the idea of the Pride March is we have to

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Speaker 2: stand up because we're so discriminated against. It actually seems

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Speaker 2: to me like that doesn't exist in any of these

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Speaker 2: cities anymore. And so being open about your sexuality has

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Speaker 2: now turned into a really I mean, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: say a very weird dynamic.

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Speaker 1: Equality means equality of expectations of conduct as well. Right,

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Speaker 1: So when you're talking about, oh that everything's equally It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so then why are the standards of conduct for the

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Speaker 1: Pride Parade different than the Saint Patrick's Day Parade, the

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Speaker 1: you know, Puerto Rican Day Parade, all these other parades

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Speaker 1: that happen. You don't see naked people at those.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I keep saying on these drag shows

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Speaker 2: in general, if you're a dad and you take your

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Speaker 2: kid to a strip club, they take your kids away

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Speaker 2: and charge you with a crime. If you're a mom

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Speaker 2: and you take somebody to your kid to a drag show,

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Speaker 2: you give.

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Speaker 1: Them a dollar and they put it in a thong.

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Speaker 1: Like how you if you went to a standard parade

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Speaker 1: in any city in America and you had a guy

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Speaker 1: dressed in leather with like a I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what you call it, like a bondage mask on spanking

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Speaker 1: a woman dressed in leather and they both were entirely

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Speaker 1: naked other than the leather bondage gear, they would be arrested. Correct. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's weird.

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Speaker 2: It's super weird, and I don't know, frankly, how we

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Speaker 2: get it back to some form of normalcy because it

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Speaker 2: definitely feels like there has been a major departure here.

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Speaker 1: Third hour of Clay and Buck starts right now. Everybody

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being here with us. The border continues to

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Speaker 1: be an absolute mess. Things not quite as bad in

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Speaker 1: terms of the numbers as was expected after title forty

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Speaker 1: two ended. But as I was saying all along, Clay,

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Speaker 1: title forty two is something that was only used sometimes

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Speaker 1: in certain cases, there were still six million people. It's

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Speaker 1: not like, oh, the border was locked down. What happens

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Speaker 1: when title forty two goes? And now some are making

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Speaker 1: the argument, which I think is valid, that so many

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Speaker 1: people were coming into the country illegally that you effectively

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Speaker 1: didn't have much of a change in the flow because

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Speaker 1: the numbers were pretty much out of max day to day,

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Speaker 1: which was not necessarily what was thought what happened with

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Speaker 1: title forty two. But all right, let's take a check

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Speaker 1: in here on what's going on with the border. According

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Speaker 1: to the Biden White House. Here's Kareinne, Jean Pierre saying

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Speaker 1: there has been a significant, a significant drop in the

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Speaker 1: illegals coming into the country.

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Speaker 6: I will remind you that Congressional Republicans just voted, literally,

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Speaker 6: they just voted a few weeks ago, a month ago,

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Speaker 6: so for the biggest border security cut in history, the

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Speaker 6: biggest cut in history when it came to the Default

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Speaker 6: on America Act. That's what that was. Part of that

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Speaker 6: act was to cut border security, and that's what they

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Speaker 6: voted on. And meanwhile, what this president has done, he

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Speaker 6: has secured record funding for border security. He has record

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Speaker 6: number of agents and officers securing our border, and is

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Speaker 6: implementing policies that have resulted in significant drop and unlawful

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Speaker 6: border crossing since Title forty two. That is what the

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Speaker 6: President has done.

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Speaker 1: So that's their version of it. Keep in mind that

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Speaker 1: funding more border patrol agents and in this case, funding

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Speaker 1: a lot more processes for allowing people to legally enter

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Speaker 1: the sorry to illegally enter the country and stay in

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Speaker 1: the country is what the Biden administration is all about.

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Speaker 1: Tom Homan was the ICE director for a while Immigrations

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Speaker 1: and Customs Enforcement under Trump. Here's what he says about

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration's claim as.

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Speaker 3: We're speaking right now.

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Speaker 4: There are over ten thousand illegal aliens enter the country

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Speaker 4: every day. But whether this administration is done, they took

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Speaker 4: up a population about six thousand. Rather than coming between

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Speaker 4: the ports of entries illegally, they're moving through a port

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Speaker 4: of entry, which are going to lose in court because

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Speaker 4: that's illegal too. The pro statute is clear a prole

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Speaker 4: must be on the case by case basis, depending on

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Speaker 4: the facts that specific case. They're not doing that. In

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Speaker 4: the twenty States of all lawsuit, they will win this.

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Speaker 4: Then this administration, once again their policy is going to

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Speaker 4: be proven illegal. So this is show game they're lying

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Speaker 4: to the American people. The numbers on board have not

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Speaker 4: solowed down a bit.

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Speaker 1: They are lying. What they're doing, Clay is they're moving people.

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Speaker 1: As Holman said, there from just illegally crossing to going

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Speaker 1: to the ports of entry, showing up and then pulling

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Speaker 1: the same I want asylum in your country game that

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Speaker 1: they've been doing all along the Biden administration. Effectively making

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Speaker 1: entry easier. That seems to be the primary goal that

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Speaker 1: they have. So Ronda is yesterday, roll this out ending

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Speaker 1: just look at some of these ending birthright, citizenship, finish

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Speaker 1: building the southern border wall. US forces to me to

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Speaker 1: Mexico to combat drug cartels, and a few other things, oh,

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Speaker 1: using lethal force on cartel members if they do not

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Speaker 1: stop and they're trying to traffic drugs into the country.

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Speaker 1: He mentioned that as well, what do you think I

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Speaker 1: love ending birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 2: I think it is the single most important thing that

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Speaker 2: we could do to curtail much of the legal immigration.

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Speaker 2: To me, Buck, you really have to ask yourself, Okay,

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Speaker 2: why does illegal immigration exist? Number one, it's because people

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Speaker 2: can have a better quality of life even as non

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Speaker 2: citizens working in the United States than they can in.

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Speaker 1: Most countries around the world.

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Speaker 2: So there is always going to be an economic draw

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Speaker 2: to get illegal immigrants here because there are jobs that

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Speaker 2: illegal immigrants can do, and those jobs, even if they

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Speaker 2: aren't great, jobs, pay far more than the jobs that

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Speaker 2: people could do in other countries. So that is a

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Speaker 2: hard incentive to eliminate, right, because it actually reflects the

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Speaker 2: dynamic success of capitalism in this country, which creates so

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Speaker 2: many jobs that frankly, a lot of Americans don't do them.

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Speaker 2: What are there right now, open, Buck, ten million jobs

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Speaker 2: or something in America that people could fill. That jobs

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Speaker 2: are hiring for in theory. Okay, So that's a hard

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Speaker 2: issue to address because basically the jobs act as a

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Speaker 2: magnet to draw people who want to work hard to

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Speaker 2: this country. The second one, though, is something that must occur.

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Speaker 2: We have to end birthright citizenship in this country. And

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of people haven't looked at this, Buck,

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Speaker 2: But there are two different types of citizenship. One is

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Speaker 2: a birthright by blood right. That is, if you are

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Speaker 2: the son or daughter of a citizen, then you should

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Speaker 2: be a citizen. I think everybody understands and agrees with that.

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Speaker 2: But the second one birthright by soil. If you are

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Speaker 2: born on United States soil, even if your parents are

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Speaker 2: here illegally, you become a citizen. Heck, if your parents

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Speaker 2: are Chinese and they decide that they want to they're

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Speaker 2: wealthy enough to be able to travel here, you can

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Speaker 2: become an American citizen and then go back to China

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Speaker 2: and you never actually lived in this country at all.

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Speaker 2: We have to end it, And Buck, do you know

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Speaker 2: why this even exists? Do you know why birthright by

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Speaker 2: soil citizenship even exists?

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Speaker 1: Well? I know, historically the courts have never addressed directly

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Speaker 1: the issue.

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Speaker 2: So but do you know why historically it even became

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Speaker 2: a thing. I went and did all the research on

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Speaker 2: this because I was fascinated by it. Tell us the

886
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Speaker 2: reason was during the colonization period, because if you were,

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Speaker 2: let's say, from Spain and you went to the New World,

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Speaker 2: there was a concern that your kids would not have

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Speaker 2: Spanish citizenship. So they tried to encourage the colonization of

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Speaker 2: North and South America by allowing you to be a citizen.

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Speaker 2: Even if your kids were born in Brazil back in

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Speaker 2: the day, you would in theory, I think i'm correct,

893
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Speaker 2: still be Portuguese, and now obviously all these countries have independence,

894
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Speaker 2: so it doesn't make sense. In fact, I believe i'm

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Speaker 2: correct of this. Of the group of seven nations, the

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Speaker 2: seven biggest economies in the world, I think only Canada

897
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Speaker 2: and the United States have birthright by soil. Citizenship doesn't

898
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Speaker 2: exist in Japan, doesn't exist in most of Europe, doesn't

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Speaker 2: exist certainly in China. This is an anachronism and it

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Speaker 2: shouldn't exist, and almost no one even talks about it.

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that this is a topic. The

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Speaker 1: reason that it has to be dealt with is because

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Speaker 1: otherwise to your point about, particularly Chinese birth tourism, which

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Speaker 1: is prosecutable. It is a they do sometimes go after

905
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Speaker 1: these birth hotels that are specifically set up so that

906
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Speaker 1: Chinese nationals can come to this country, have a child here,

907
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Speaker 1: go to US hospital, taxpayer expense, have the baby, and

908
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Speaker 1: then eighteen years later they can say, oh, I want

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Speaker 1: to go to UCLA. I'm an American citizen. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: that's the game. That's what they do. That's not the

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Speaker 1: way our society is supposed to work. That's not the

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Speaker 1: way that we think of immigration. And you know the

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Speaker 1: processes by which people become attached to the nation state,

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Speaker 1: to their polity, if you will. But Rohn dea Santis said,

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Speaker 1: this stuff interesting that a lot of people are pointing

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Speaker 1: out a whole on it sounds a lot like what

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Speaker 1: Trump said back in twenty sixteen, and Ron was at

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Speaker 1: the border and he brought this part up to play it.

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Speaker 7: I was shocked when they were telling me that Obama's

920
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Speaker 7: first four years had more deportations than Trump's term, which

921
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Speaker 7: is incredible that that would be the case. And so

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Speaker 7: that never came to fruition. Obviously, you know, you did

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Speaker 7: have some wall built, but not nearly enough in terms

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Speaker 7: of that, and I don't think they even started doing it,

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Speaker 7: you know, for a number of years going forward. So

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Speaker 7: I think a lot of the things he's saying, you know,

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Speaker 7: I agree with, but I also think those are the

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Speaker 7: same things that were said back in twenty sixteen. And

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Speaker 7: here's the thing. We're not getting a mulligan on this one. Okay,

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Speaker 7: we either win the election or this is never going

931
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Speaker 7: to be fixed. And then once you get in there,

932
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Speaker 7: you either fix it, because if you don't fix it

933
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Speaker 7: this time, you know, I don't think it's ever going

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Speaker 7: to get done.

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Speaker 1: And a few points here, with more and more legals

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Speaker 1: coming into the country, the chance of dealing with illegal

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Speaker 1: immigration in a way that isn't just mass amnesty get

938
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Speaker 1: smaller and smaller. So this isn't a situation where the clock,

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Speaker 1: if you will, is on the side of sovereignty. Four

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Speaker 1: more years of Biden would make the likelihood of a

941
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Speaker 1: mass amnesty much much higher, And even Republicans will just

942
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Speaker 1: start to say, well, I mean, it's you know, it's

943
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Speaker 1: twenty five million. What are we going to do. We're

944
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Speaker 1: going to just have to let everybody stay who came

945
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Speaker 1: to the country illegally. But it's interesting to see as well.

946
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Speaker 1: I'm hearing Trump pro Trump people at the I don't

947
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Speaker 1: even like that term. Trump voters in the primary say

948
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Speaker 1: he's just copying Trump. DeSantis people in the primary is saying, yeah,

949
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Speaker 1: but Decantis will actually do it. We'll see if that

950
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Speaker 1: actually catches on.

951
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Speaker 2: Trump's policies were oftentimes very much correct. It seems to

952
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Speaker 2: me what DeSantis is trying to argue is he's a

953
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Speaker 2: more competent version of Trump. Remains to be seen, right,

954
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Speaker 2: But the DeSantis selling point is it's an interesting needle

955
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Speaker 2: to to kind of or to thread here, right, because

956
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Speaker 2: you don't want to alienate Trump supporters if you are

957
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Speaker 2: running to be president of the United States and the

958
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Speaker 2: Republican primary, so you can endorse Trump policies and then

959
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Speaker 2: just try to argue, hey, but unlike Trump, I'll be

960
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Speaker 2: more efficient in implementing many of the policies because I

961
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Speaker 2: do think ninety eight percent of the people that are

962
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Speaker 2: listening to us right now, that's a random number that

963
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Speaker 2: I just made up, but I'd say it's about right

964
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Speaker 2: agree with almost all of Trump policies. I think it's

965
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Speaker 2: very hard to attack Trump on policy because I think

966
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Speaker 2: he gets to the right conclusion. Most of the time,

967
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Speaker 2: where I think you can attack Trump is he's a

968
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Speaker 2: bull in a china shop getting there. So people like

969
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Speaker 2: Trump results, they don't necessarily like the process by which

970
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Speaker 2: Trump gets there. And I think oftentimes buck where Trump

971
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Speaker 2: opens himself up to attack is not his final result.

972
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Speaker 2: It's that he's again the bull in the china shop,

973
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Speaker 2: breaking things left and right which don't actually directly relate

974
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Speaker 2: to where he's getting to.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? I think that.

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Speaker 2: I think ninety eight percent of our listeners would agree

977
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Speaker 2: with that. And some people would say, well, that's necessary

978
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Speaker 2: for him to be the bull in the china shop

979
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Speaker 2: because so much is broken in America. You've got to

980
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Speaker 2: move fast and sometimes you're going to break things. And

981
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Speaker 2: I understand that argument too, But it seems to me

982
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Speaker 2: that DeSantis is trying to thread the needle of arguing

983
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Speaker 2: many of the policies are correct. I will actually do

984
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Speaker 2: a better job, however, implementing policies.

985
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Speaker 1: He's the process guy. Here's one other part of the

986
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Speaker 1: conversation from yesterday that I thought was interesting that was new,

987
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Speaker 1: which is to create a framework for allowing states to

988
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Speaker 1: deport people themselves, which would mean that Texas and Arizona

989
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Speaker 1: and Florida wherever could be. What we have right now

990
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Speaker 1: is really the almost the nullification of immigration law by

991
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Speaker 1: all the sanctuary jurisdictions across the country. They will not

992
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Speaker 1: work with federal law enforcement in a lot of states,

993
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Speaker 1: in a lot of places, California will not help immigrations

994
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Speaker 1: and customs enforcement at all. Right state law enforcement and

995
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Speaker 1: if anything, they'll stand in the way. Here Ron DeSantis

996
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Speaker 1: is saying, this is from yesterday. We got to let

997
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Speaker 1: states that want to, like Texas, deport people who are

998
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Speaker 1: there illegally.

999
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Speaker 8: If the federal government won't do its job, the states

1000
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Speaker 8: should be permitted to send people back.

1001
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Speaker 1: That is what you need to do.

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Speaker 8: Basically, they say, you know, states can intrude on the

1003
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Speaker 8: federal government's prerogative to enforce immigration because immigration is a

1004
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Speaker 8: federal issue. But if the Feds have the responsibility to

1005
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Speaker 8: do immigration and they decide to just not do it,

1006
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Speaker 8: then are we just helpless and we don't have the

1007
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Speaker 8: laws enforced at all? And so I think the states

1008
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Speaker 8: have a role to play. I can tell you as president,

1009
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Speaker 8: we are going to fully deputize all state and local

1010
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Speaker 8: governments to be able to enforce immigration law.

1011
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Speaker 1: You will be able to have that authority federal law

1012
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: enforcement saying, hey, state law enforcement could use the hand

1013
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: what you need. There is a Republican administration that's willing

1014
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Speaker 1: to do that from the top down.

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Speaker 2: So it is interesting, Buck that you can put guys

1016
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Speaker 2: on buses and planes and take them to other parts

1017
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Speaker 2: of the United States, right Texas sending people to Chicago,

1018
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Speaker 2: New York City, DC, but you're not allowed to actually

1019
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Speaker 2: send them out of the country. Isn't it just to

1020
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Speaker 2: kind of think about, like the state has the authority

1021
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Speaker 2: to move within the states, but you couldn't put them

1022
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Speaker 2: on a plane and send them back. I think that's

1023
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Speaker 2: a really interesting I'm not sure it's constitutional, but I

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