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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: Big protest out in Charlotte where Charlotte's Web is unfolding.

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Speaker 1: Well, what would you say.

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Speaker 2: To those people out on the street threatening Ice officers

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Speaker 2: all wound up at night.

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Speaker 3: You cross the line, You're gonna be prosecuted. Your slash attire,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be prosecuted. You impede ice, You're gonna be prosecuted.

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Speaker 3: Fam Bindy's doing a great job. President Trump told me

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Speaker 3: Perst eight months ago, zero tolerance. You break the law,

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Speaker 3: you impede us, you will be prosecuted by the federal government.

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Speaker 1: After they were apprehended.

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Speaker 4: What do they tell you about that open border.

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Speaker 5: They're actually furious that Trump is in office right now.

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Speaker 5: They were fully expecting Harris to get in and to

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Speaker 5: continue their operations like normal. They had flooded the border

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Speaker 5: and set up infrastructure, using our taxpayer dollars to direct

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Speaker 5: the flow of children to where they wanted them to go.

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Speaker 5: Sponsors that were unvetted, many of them traffickers, many of

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Speaker 5: them predators and pedophiles, and criminal rap sheets a mile long.

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Speaker 5: They were not expecting the Trump administration to get in

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Speaker 5: closed seal the border immediately and start going after these

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Speaker 5: bad actors and hammering down on deportations.

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Speaker 3: Every time they do this, they achieved more officers are

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Speaker 3: sent to do these operations, more rests are made, and

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Speaker 3: we flooded the zone with more officers. The results of

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Speaker 3: all this foolishness, more rest, more safety on the street,

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Speaker 3: more ice officers.

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Speaker 6: They're not going to stop us from doing this.

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Speaker 3: We're going to be there tonight, We're going to be

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Speaker 3: there tomorrow, We're going to be there every day. Because

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Speaker 3: President Trump made a promise to American people that will run.

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Speaker 3: We had the biggest deportation operations countries. By the end

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Speaker 3: of the week will be over six hundred thousand deportations,

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Speaker 3: historic record. And that's just since President Trustman in office.

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Speaker 3: We're not accountant the first four months in a Biden

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Speaker 3: administration during a fiscal year.

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Speaker 7: We know that the intentional attacks that are coming from

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Speaker 7: the Trump administration and the extreme right in this country

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Speaker 7: has very much been what I call is it's an

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Speaker 7: attempt to relitigate the Civil War right. They have not

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Speaker 7: accepted the results that the North actually won, right, because

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Speaker 7: if you look at all of the attacks, it's not

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Speaker 7: just black cities. He's going after education, housing, transportation, good

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Speaker 7: paying jobs, and healthcare. Those are literally the five demands

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Speaker 7: of descendants of slaves host civil war. So it's evident

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Speaker 7: that they are not you committed to actually realizing the

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Speaker 7: full dream of what this country can offer.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Jonathan Schow here at London's Heathrow Airport for Frontlines

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Speaker 8: turning Point in USA. I just got off the airplane

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Speaker 8: with Ryan Williams, also known as Korean bacon.

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Speaker 9: Guys.

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Speaker 10: There's only one culture that makes women cover their faces

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Speaker 10: for other mental rate them leave the ghats alone.

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Speaker 8: Right as we went through customs, authorities were waiting and

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Speaker 8: they apprehended him.

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Speaker 1: Brian, what's going on? What's going on here? He's now

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Speaker 1: in custody.

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Speaker 8: They wouldn't say exactly.

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Speaker 11: Why, because there's a chance you get arrested for posting

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Speaker 11: stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Precisely why I want.

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Speaker 12: To go back to face the rest voluntarily. I'm going

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Speaker 12: to find it to be at to get free speech.

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Speaker 1: He was a staunch critic. Okay, okay, as.

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Speaker 12: You saw, authorities got me as well.

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Speaker 8: I'm being let go down, booting me from London Sea

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Speaker 8: through airport and not letting me do any type of reports.

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Speaker 8: Brian Williams, a staunch critic of Islam and mass migration

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Speaker 8: here into the UK, has been taken into custody. He

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Speaker 8: knew this would happen, told his followers on Instagram and

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Speaker 8: social media.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be reaching out to his attorney.

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Speaker 8: We'll see what happens, We'll see how long he's held.

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Speaker 1: But right now this is.

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Speaker 8: A complicated situation that is still developing as we speak.

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Speaker 13: My family, we're in the UK for the generation and

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Speaker 13: we felt abandoned by our government. We felt as if

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Speaker 13: they were protecting the asylum seekers and the migrants over

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Speaker 13: the citizens, the natural born citizens of the United Kingdom,

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Speaker 13: and as Muslim immigration. Islamic immigration has increased in Europe

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Speaker 13: and the UK. So has the crime rates, so has rapes, murders,

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Speaker 13: molestation of children. It's very dangerous and unfortunately their cultures

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Speaker 13: are vastly different to ours. We need to be extremely

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Speaker 13: careful how we tread and integrate Islam into the West,

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Speaker 13: if at all.

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Speaker 10: And for those of you that are involved in this

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Speaker 10: political fight, I could tell you things might get difficult,

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Speaker 10: you might be called names, there might be protesters. I

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Speaker 10: could tell you that in the midst of all of

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Speaker 10: that having strong family and friends and having a relationship

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Speaker 10: with God is the most important way to sustain a movie.

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Speaker 14: Like this.

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Speaker 15: The Charlie Kirk Show. Every day there's a battle for

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Speaker 15: your mind, raging information coming from every angle, but the

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Speaker 15: will to the sieve. I fear not. You found the

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Speaker 15: place for truth, the voice of a generation that still

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Speaker 15: has the will to believe. In the greatest country in

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Speaker 15: the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 15: Fuck a lot. Here we go on.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Charlie Kirk's Show. I'm Andrew Colvett,

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Speaker 1: executive producer of this fine show, and I am joined

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Speaker 1: by Blake Neff, the producer. Here are not so secret weapon.

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Speaker 1: We actually, uh before this had an interview with Megan Kelly.

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Speaker 1: I encourage you guys to check that out, both Blake

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Speaker 1: and I did. That was good fun. Yeah, it was great, No,

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Speaker 1: it was good. It was an interview there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I'd sat very many early so our shows are

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Speaker 1: at similar times, right, so you have to pre record

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Speaker 1: on certain days and you have to wait for that

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Speaker 1: schedule to the line. But I remember multiple times, you know,

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Speaker 1: setting Charlie up with the interview with Megan and very

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Speaker 1: early mornings, you know. So it was an honor to

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Speaker 1: be with Meghan. And then of course Megan and Erica

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Speaker 1: are going to be doing the tour stop in Glendale,

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Speaker 1: Arizona on Saturday, and as a matter of fact, I

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Speaker 1: think Jack's doing it in Bakersfield with Megan on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I believe so. So today's opening story is going to

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Speaker 1: be Islam versus America. There's a lot of of these

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Speaker 1: stories that are kind of coming together all at one time, coalescing,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was really apropos because Blake. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk right now online about the

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Speaker 1: fracturing of the right or that the you know, different

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Speaker 1: groups are chipping at each other, and there's a lot.

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Speaker 11: Of people we like to argue, always frankly and but

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Speaker 11: just especially we'll be We'll admit it. The elections in Virginia,

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Speaker 11: New Jersey sure were challenging. They weren't results we were

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Speaker 11: hoping for. And always after that that ends up with

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Speaker 11: some sniping, some blaming, and then there's other stuff that's

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Speaker 16: You know, we don't even want to name names and

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Speaker 16: like dive into it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot of stuff Charlie

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Speaker 11: fought so hard against. Charlie Aliki's cared about looking forward,

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Speaker 11: building the coalition, finding the common ground where there was disagreement.

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Speaker 11: And we were talking just before this show, what would

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Speaker 11: Charlie be wanting to do right now? And he wouldn't

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Speaker 11: be wallowing in disagreements. He would be thinking what can

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Speaker 11: unite us? And one of those things he cared so

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Speaker 11: much about uniting us on before his death was, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 11: one of the problems facing America is this rising tide

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Speaker 11: of Islam.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, And so what we saw and I think

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Speaker 1: it's a really important, I think event, cultural event, but

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's a precursor of things that we

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Speaker 1: are probably going to see more of, unfortunately. And that

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Speaker 1: was in Dearborn, Michigan, where you had let's say hundreds,

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Speaker 1: I've heard as many as a thousand. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: in the total numbers. We couldn't verify it. But protesters

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Speaker 1: that came out, they announced that they were going to

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Speaker 1: do this protest on November tenth, and then they said

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Speaker 1: we're going to do it on November eighteenth. So they

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Speaker 1: only had like eighteen or eight days or so between

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Speaker 1: the announcement and the protests. They went to Dearborn and

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Speaker 1: there was clashes in the streets yesterday. Apparently there was

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Speaker 1: a J six prisoner, Jake Lang, who was involved in

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Speaker 1: kind of I think it got more heated as soon

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Speaker 1: as he got involved, but they were just trying to say, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: this is America. Dearborn is kind of ground zero for

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Speaker 1: It's probably a terrible expression to use when we're talking

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Speaker 1: about the Islamification of America, but it's ground zero for

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Speaker 1: this mass migration that's happening within the West, largely especially

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Speaker 1: in the UK. You and Charlie visited the UK and

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Speaker 1: that was one of your largest observations. But now it's

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Speaker 1: happening in Dearborn, and we've got mom Donnie as the

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Speaker 1: new mayor in New York. A lot of things are

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Speaker 1: coming together. And then yesterday Blake Governor Greg Abbott went

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Speaker 1: on X went on Twitter and said, today I designate

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Speaker 1: the Muslim Brotherhood and Council on America Islamic Relations care

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Speaker 1: as foreign terrorists and transnational criminal organizations. This bans them

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Speaker 1: from buying or acquiring land in Texas and authorizes the

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Speaker 1: Attorney General to sue to shut them down big moment.

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Speaker 16: For sure, for sure, and CARE it gets brought up.

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Speaker 11: So it is an Islamic advocacy arm in the United States,

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Speaker 11: but it's long had friction where it gets you inevitably

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Speaker 11: the California Chapter of CARE they were cutting one thousand

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Speaker 11: And what those thousand dollars checks were going to, among others,

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Speaker 11: shutting down entire campuses, harassing their students, taking over buildings

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Speaker 11: as part of their anti Israel protests, which in early

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Speaker 11: And that gets at the heart of what we've talked

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Speaker 11: about also with Antifa, which is there are these left

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Speaker 11: and financial support for barely legal or just aggressively illegal

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Speaker 11: have to break these networks up. You can't just have

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Speaker 11: financial subsidies endlessly going to people who are terrorists, terrorist sympathizers, rioters, disruptors,

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Speaker 11: the people who are who actually aren't winning at the

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Speaker 11: ballot box, and so they impose what they want through

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Speaker 16: Rather than ever winning an election.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean care for you know what it's worth.

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Speaker 1: They call themselves a social justice or civil rights.

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Speaker 16: We're a civil rights organization.

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Speaker 1: Which is by the way, it's just part for the

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Speaker 1: course they're going to they're going to launder radical Islamic values,

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Speaker 1: ideas and frankly people because they're very in favor of

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Speaker 1: mass migration from Islamic countries to the West, they're going

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Speaker 1: to launder those ideal ideas in left coded language. Right,

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Speaker 1: so they're going to wrap themselves in the ideas and

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Speaker 1: language of the left in order to destabilize the countries.

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Speaker 1: But CARE has alleged tied to Hamas the Muslim Brotherhood,

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Speaker 1: including funding terror designated groups. They oppose President Trump's travel

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Speaker 1: restrictions and travel bands and Trump one point zero and

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Speaker 1: had they had the CARES executive director Nihad Awad in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three expressed joy over the October seventh Hamas

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Speaker 1: attacks on Israel. I was happy to see Palestinians break

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Speaker 1: the siege, was what he said. They promote Sharia aligned

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Speaker 1: policies and public institutions. So, for example, because we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Texas, look what CARE has done in Texas. Care

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Speaker 1: has advocated for accommodations like a law, meals in schools.

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Speaker 1: They've they've adgated to adjust exam schedules for Islam and holidays,

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Speaker 11: Got him, leave the tea out of Christendom. But such

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Speaker 1: all right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We're

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Speaker 1: All right, so we've mentioned this dearborn thing. I want

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Speaker 16: You'll buy get Charlie Kirk?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you hope he gets killed? Because you don't like him,

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Speaker 1: that's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which seid you know what. I hate it.

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Speaker 15: Let's work towards a Muslim mayor.

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Speaker 6: this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. President

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Speaker 6: Trump has been busy over the last couple of days

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Speaker 6: entertaining Saudi guests. He of course hosted Saudi Arabia's Crown

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Speaker 19: Tariffs have been frankly the best thing that's ever happened

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Speaker 19: to our country. They've always been used against us, and

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Speaker 19: we never had people that were smart enough to use

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Speaker 19: them in the opposite direction. But there you do, and

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Speaker 19: we have taken in trillions of dollars and it's been

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Speaker 19: absolutely amazing. We're going to be doing a dividend to

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Speaker 19: the people low and middle income, moderate income people of

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Speaker 19: at least two thousand dollars. In addition to that, we'll

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Speaker 19: be paying down debt very substantially. It's kind of money

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Speaker 19: we're taking in, and really, countries that took advantage of

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Speaker 19: us are no longer taking advantage of.

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Speaker 6: A Saudi Arabia, by the way, has committed to invest

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Speaker 6: about one trillion dollars in the US economy.

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Speaker 15: The hardest working radio show in the business, the Charlie

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Speaker 15: Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna tell you about TikTok. Here, connection

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Speaker 1: and open dialogue, these are the things that build communities.

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Speaker 1: Charlie and TikTok always shared in that belief. That's why

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Speaker 1: TikTok has built a space where that kind of listening

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Speaker 1: actually happens. People don't just post, they respond, They build

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Speaker 1: on each other's ideas. You'll see a teacher simplifying a

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Speaker 1: tough lesson so it finally clicks, or gardener sharing a

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Speaker 1: trick that saved their crop. But what matters most isn't

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Speaker 1: the video, it's what comes next. And that's somebody posts.

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Speaker 1: They post their own thought, They go back and forth

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Speaker 1: with people, and suddenly people who've never met become a

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Speaker 1: community built on curiosity. When people listen and understand, a

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Speaker 1: shift happens. Walls come down, ideas travel further, and connection

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Speaker 1: takes their place. So check out TikTok. That's where connections

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Speaker 1: are happening. It's very powerful. Charlie did billions and billions

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Speaker 1: of views there, made lots of connections, built real community.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about our next guest. We actually tried to

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Speaker 1: do this yesterday and ran into weather disruptions and power

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Speaker 1: outages here in Phoenix. And that's Sega and Jetty, host

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Speaker 1: of Breaking Points, a really popular show, and Sega is

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Speaker 1: a really you are contra. You're welcome. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Sega, thank you guys, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You are a contrarian thinker on a lot of topics

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Speaker 1: I think, and you always make it interesting. Whether that's

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Speaker 1: daylight saving time or in this case, property taxes. And

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Speaker 1: you and Blake, I think are the same mind here.

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Speaker 1: What is your take on this push in Florida to

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Speaker 1: eliminate property taxes.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, first of all, just thank you guys for having

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Speaker 20: me my first time joining the program since Charlie's passing.

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Speaker 4: I just want to command you both for the job

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Speaker 4: that you guys are doing.

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Speaker 20: And I'm very very sorry that Charlie and I never

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Speaker 20: got to have the fight about daylight saving this.

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Speaker 4: Time that we were once promised. So rip Charlie, we

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Speaker 4: will one day be able to have that.

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Speaker 20: But on property tax in general, there's been a new

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Speaker 20: push by Governor DeSantis. This is picking up on quite

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Speaker 20: a few red states, Governor Abba and others in Texas

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Speaker 20: pushing explicitly to either abolished property tax in a more

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Speaker 20: objectionable case in my opinion, specifically carve out property tax.

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Speaker 4: Exemptions for older homeowners.

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Speaker 20: And something that I'm really passionate about is defending the

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Speaker 20: very idea of property tax very specifically while also being

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Speaker 20: able to critique individual school districts because I believe that

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Speaker 20: it's very important to preserve the local connection of the

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Speaker 20: taxpayer to the community. And one of my more recent

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Speaker 20: objections right now specifically is that it actually centralizes control

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Speaker 20: of education, of police, public services, and others at the

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Speaker 20: state and the federal level. And if you really think

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Speaker 20: back to the founding of our republic, property taxes in

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Speaker 20: many ways the most American tax that exists. Fourteen out

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Speaker 20: of the fifteen colonies had property taxes. By seventeen ninety six,

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Speaker 20: Thomas Jefferson actually believed that property tax was the most

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Speaker 20: righteous tax that could exist here in the United States.

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Speaker 20: And so I'm concerned more specifically, at a very high level,

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Speaker 20: that this is largely a giveaway to the wealthy landowner class,

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Speaker 20: which yes, also unfortunately happens to be much older, and

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Speaker 20: that it is not one that prioritizes younger families, turnover

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Speaker 20: and other healthy elements of a housing market which remains,

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Speaker 20: as you guys know, as Charlie knew as well, one

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Speaker 20: of the central pain points for the burgeoning American family.

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Speaker 20: And if we care about families, caring about housing, housing policy,

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Speaker 20: school district funding is something that we all really need

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Speaker 20: to think very deeply about.

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Speaker 4: And I just think this goes in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So I just want to say we always invite

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Speaker 11: response from our listeners Freedom at Charliekirk dot com, and

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Speaker 11: I will say the discussions we've had on this topic

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Speaker 11: have been a volcanic. We've gotten a ton of emails

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Speaker 11: about it, and I'll be frank they are mostly hostile

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Speaker 11: to you and to you and me Seger that a

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Speaker 11: lot of people.

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Speaker 16: You know, we got a lot of very.

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Speaker 11: Authentic stories, people talking about how you know, they had

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Speaker 11: to work and save their entire lives to be able

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Speaker 11: their homes or how they are. You know, there are

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Speaker 11: seniors who are economically struggling right now and they feel

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Speaker 11: singled out and it's really bad. And I don't want

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Speaker 11: to downplay any of those things, and I want to

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Speaker 11: emphasize we are not engaging in generational warfare on the old.

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Speaker 11: I am not advocating dispossess the old, but we're not

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Speaker 11: saying the old are villains. But what we have to

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Speaker 11: recognize is if we're going to change our tax system

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Speaker 11: to make American life more affordable, that's the goal of

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Speaker 11: this The goal is fighting for affordability.

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Speaker 16: We have to think who.

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Speaker 11: Benefits most and also who is actually hurting the most

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Speaker 11: in America and what you know saga is. Charlie talked

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Speaker 11: about this all the time. The people who are in

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Speaker 11: the most dire situation in America are the young. They

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Speaker 11: feel like they have no path forward to what their

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Speaker 11: parents and grandparents were had access to, and as a result,

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Speaker 11: they're becoming very radical on the left end on the

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Speaker 11: right in many cases.

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Speaker 16: And so I think it.

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Speaker 11: Would be disastrous for us to pursue a tax policy

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Speaker 11: of abolishing just abolishing property tax when it is almost

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Speaker 11: certain that this will mean raising the tax burden that

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Speaker 11: is paid by young working families, because the offset to

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Speaker 11: this is almost inevitably going to be higher income taxes

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Speaker 11: or higher sales taxes.

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Speaker 16: You know, It's like the Hills Hoxer.

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Speaker 11: You squeeze the balloon somewhere and it will expand elsewhere.

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Speaker 11: And so we have to think, where is that balloon

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Speaker 11: going to expand?

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Speaker 4: Right, And let me just back up.

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Speaker 20: Let's talk about Florida specifically, right, So, the Florida Policy Institute,

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Speaker 20: you know, estimates there are some one point five million Floridians

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Speaker 20: who live in school districts were actually fifty percent of

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Speaker 20: their funding over fifty percent of that funding comes specifically

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Speaker 20: from the homestead property tax. That's about five percent of

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Speaker 20: the Floridian population, but you have some eighteen point five billion.

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Speaker 4: Dollars in shortfall.

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Speaker 20: That exemption of homestead property tax would happen now, as

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Speaker 20: Blake said, inevitably, especially in a state like Florida where

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Speaker 20: you have no income tax, the money is going to

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Speaker 20: have to be made up from somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: So that could impose like a tourist tax. If you

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Speaker 4: guys have ever.

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Speaker 20: Stayed in Florida, you know, at different rates for a

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Speaker 20: hotel rooms if you're a Florida resident if you're not,

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Speaker 20: And of course you know it's not like the Disney

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Speaker 20: but secondary to that is well almost certainly have to

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Speaker 20: be made up in some other forms.

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Speaker 4: Sales taxes usually the way that this goes about.

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Speaker 20: And you know, one of the reasons I'm really passionate

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Speaker 20: so many Americans who live in unaffordable hell holes like

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Speaker 20: where I am here in the DMV, where childcare is

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Speaker 20: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year on average. Actually,

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Speaker 20: literally where I live, where the median home values are

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Speaker 20: well over one million dollars, I think that's disastrous. I

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Speaker 20: think it's the most anti family place in the world.

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Speaker 20: The median home buyer around here is some forty or

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Speaker 20: fifty years old. I'm very proud people are moving to

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Speaker 20: my home state of Texas to raise families for affordable housing.

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Speaker 20: But what recently happened is what we took is that

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Speaker 20: family dream and instead we basically pass off the societal

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Speaker 20: The societal compact is we're all in this together. The

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Speaker 20: silent generation paid property taxes for boomers whenever their children

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Speaker 20: were going to school, and now by abdicating that responsibility

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Speaker 20: explicitly trying to take school taxes out of seniors. And

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Speaker 20: I understand you know about the cost of living increase,

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Speaker 20: et cetera. For social security not necessarily keeping up, but

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Speaker 20: called fixed income is one that actually does apply across

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Speaker 20: the entire income spectrum. Blake, I thought you made a

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Speaker 20: really excellent point on the show earlier where when a

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Speaker 20: young person who lives anywhere and sees a thirty to

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Speaker 20: forty percent increase in their rental income. You know, the

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Speaker 20: media and conservative argument to that is, well, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 20: you know, the free market has consequences, and you're studently

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Speaker 20: going to have to move. And you know, the point

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Speaker 20: about the societal compact is when we also start to

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Speaker 20: talk about Medicare and social security and the entitlement funding

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Speaker 20: to which currently is being outflowed, being paid for by

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Speaker 20: the younger jeneration.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's.

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Speaker 20: Important for that compact that we all explicitly pay into

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Speaker 20: and support the system. And I don't think there's anything

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Speaker 20: more important than supporting younger families right now, who, as

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Speaker 20: Blake said, ultimately, tax policy is a zero some game,

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Speaker 20: like the funding does actually do need that it does

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Speaker 20: need to come from somewhere, and largely the vast majority

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Speaker 20: of Americans live in states right now where they have

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Speaker 20: older you know, they have exemptions for older homeowners and

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Speaker 20: increasingly pass the buck to the younger homeowner, the younger family.

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Speaker 4: Who is having a lot of difficulty making ends meet

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 20: And that is my singular mission, if there is one,

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Speaker 20: is to try and make it, to advocate for policy

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Speaker 20: which will actually make it easier for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think this is you know, I

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Speaker 1: think everybody's heart is in the right place. We want

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Speaker 1: more families, want more marriages, we want to restore the

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Speaker 1: social compact for gen Z. My one pushback here is

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Speaker 1: and I want to I was not aware that Thomas

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Speaker 1: Jefferson said it was the most righteous of all the taxes.

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Speaker 4: I one of the most righteous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of them. Please explain why, if you know

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Speaker 1: why he said that, what his rationale was for that,

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: At the time of the Colonies, it's very important to remember,

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Speaker 20: and you guys discussed this as well. The idea of

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Speaker 20: a general income tax or a capital gain tax or

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Speaker 20: any of these other taxes was anathema.

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Speaker 9: Really.

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Speaker 20: A lot of it was alcohol taxes like a Pagoovian syntax.

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Speaker 20: It was tariffs, and it was property tax. Property owners

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Speaker 20: were the only ones who could vote at that time.

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Speaker 20: But very importantly, it was seen as a way as

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Speaker 20: the property, you know, owner themselves, is benning fitting from

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Speaker 20: the social benefit of what it would pay for let's say,

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Speaker 20: from mail system to eventually evolved into cops, into schools.

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Speaker 20: And that's why fourteen out of the fifteen colonies by

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Speaker 20: seventeen ninety six had a property tax on the books.

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Speaker 20: In fact, there used to be something called a general

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Speaker 20: property tax, which we don't even have anymore. And so

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Speaker 20: I really do understand how difficult it can be, you know,

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Speaker 20: when you look at your mortgage, and especially with the

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Speaker 20: so called reassessments of home alviews and more importantly people

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Speaker 20: saying I don't feel like I'm getting enough for my

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Speaker 20: property tax. But my real message to you is you

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Speaker 20: have the ability to change that on a level more

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Speaker 20: than any other. I mean, if you live in the

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Speaker 20: state of Florida, there's what millions of people who live

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Speaker 20: in the state of Florida. The realistically your ability to

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Speaker 20: campaign and to change policy at the state level is

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Speaker 20: very low. And you know, issues that you guys have

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Speaker 20: talked about here on the show. One reason why parents

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Speaker 20: felt so much courage to come and speak up, let's say,

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Speaker 20: against critical race theory or no transgenderism was because you know,

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Speaker 20: as taxpayers, we pay into this, we're directly funding it,

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Speaker 20: and we have that access. And by removing that, you

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Speaker 20: actually really do remove the social compact between the parent

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Speaker 20: and the locality and the ability to influence turnover and

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Speaker 20: ultimately to govern our own destiny, which is what local

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Speaker 20: government really is all about. From our police force, you know,

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Speaker 20: from electing sheriff like, so much of this is actually

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Speaker 20: baked deeply into the American spirit. And so long way

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Speaker 20: to answer your question is it was about localism, and

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Speaker 20: it was fundamentally about community, and it was seen as

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Speaker 20: both a way to raise revenue but also to turn

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Speaker 20: people into good citizens and to recognize the ability for

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Speaker 20: us to influence where those policies can which direction they

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Speaker 20: could go.

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Speaker 11: Well, I should I want to flag this only because

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Speaker 11: we did get an email recently pointing this out from

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Speaker 11: Heather in Florida, who says there are proposals where it

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Speaker 11: would eliminate the advolorum property tax except for school funding,

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Speaker 11: which might be I think it could probably be superior

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Speaker 11: other than the fact that you know, obviously our public

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Speaker 11: school funding is one of the most wasteful things we have.

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Speaker 1: But I have I have another historical question for you, Seger.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm curious because you know we're talking about you know,

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Speaker 1: the land and gentry were the only ones that could

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Speaker 1: vote back at America's founding. Was it just a property

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Speaker 1: tax on like working farms? And productive pieces of land

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Speaker 1: that made a revenue or was it actually a property

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Speaker 1: tax on you know, if you owned a home in

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Speaker 1: a township somewhere.

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Speaker 20: So it was calling by colony, and it was also

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Speaker 20: what Blake is saying is about the general property tax,

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Speaker 20: So it wasn't just necessarily on that. It was also

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Speaker 20: on the amount of stuff that you actually owned, and

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Speaker 20: it's overall assessed value, but it was it was variable

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Speaker 20: and different a little bit. And from some of the

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Speaker 20: reading that I have done, I do think it's important

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Speaker 20: though to address that point into where we're talking about

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Speaker 20: you know today, which is one of the reasons why

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Speaker 20: I think this is really important is because the home

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Speaker 20: ownership class largely is.

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Speaker 4: You know, on the older side of the spectrum.

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Speaker 20: And one of the things that I think all of

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Speaker 20: us on this show are trying to get into is

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Speaker 20: how can we make it so that younger families can

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Speaker 20: afford homes? And so ultimately, when we have so many

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Speaker 20: policy proposals which largely are going to benefit some of

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Speaker 20: the older Americans which are rapidly appreciated their own housing stock,

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Speaker 20: which you know, if you look at their stock portfolios

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Speaker 20: or overall well generation, we should also be looking perhaps

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Speaker 20: at inverse proposals. Let's say, oh, well, if we're going

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Speaker 20: to let's say, give exemptions or others, then we need

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Speaker 20: to look at where does it encourage let's say, a

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Speaker 20: first time home buyer and others. And I think, unfortunately,

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Speaker 20: like I said in my home state of Texas, we're

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Speaker 20: going in the opposite direction.

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Speaker 1: Now. I think this is a really important conversation. We're

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back everybody. I love this tweet from you, Sagar,

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Speaker 1: you go. Property tax is the only issue, aside from weed,

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Speaker 1: that I've received as much hate for. This is absolute

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Speaker 1: confirmation I am over the target. I think that's your vien,

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Speaker 1: your experience too blake.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I want to be as charitable as possible

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Speaker 11: because I know we have three hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 11: people in this country. Plenty of people have a lot

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Speaker 11: of challenges, and we should always avoid any you know,

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Speaker 11: hateful warfare that stereotypes everyone is, you know, all the same.

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Speaker 16: And so it's easy to say.

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Speaker 11: Like, oh, rich boomers living it up and wanting to

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Speaker 11: go on cruises. I know a lot of people are

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Speaker 11: not doing that. We're getting emails from them where they

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Speaker 11: talk about how hard it is. But we have to

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Speaker 11: avoid generational warfare the other way. And I always want

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Speaker 11: to emphasize if you're going to just abolish or radically

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Speaker 11: cut property taxes or make special carve outs, if you're

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Speaker 11: not actually attacking government spending directly, that bill is going

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Speaker 11: to be paid another way, and someone's going to pay

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Speaker 11: that price, and that's attacking them just as much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and Sega, I'm gonna give you an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to respond to that, because I I am actually in

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Speaker 1: favor of maybe some ideas where when somebody retires and

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Speaker 1: maybe it's means tested, maybe we freeze, freeze it at

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Speaker 1: a certain rate or something like that. And we'll discuss

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Speaker 1: on the other side when we welcome back National Radio.

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Speaker 1: In two seconds, all right, welcome back to the Charlie

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Speaker 1: kirkshow we have Sega and Jetty at the host of

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Speaker 1: breaking points follow on X. It's a good follow. I

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Speaker 1: have to say, I often check in. I just I

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Speaker 1: want to see I want to see the contrarian thought.

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Speaker 1: It's really good, a thought provoking stuff. It's a really

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Speaker 1: good follow. I want to throw throw a graphic up

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Speaker 1: here just kind of underscore the point that you guys

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Speaker 1: are making. And this is from Fortune magazine one fifty nine.

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Speaker 1: It's the age distribution of home buyers and sellers by generation.

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Speaker 1: So you see that weighted really high up at the

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Speaker 1: old boomer, young boomer, and old exer, those are the

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Speaker 1: three biggest. Meanwhile, millennials and Gen Zers are lagging far behind.

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Speaker 1: And then there's also this, it's a visual another one

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Speaker 1: one sixty three. It shows that boomers make up fifty

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Speaker 1: percent of the wealth in the country. Uh, and then

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Speaker 1: you see those small little slivers of pies for millennials

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Speaker 1: and frankly Gen xers are lagging pretty far behind. Now,

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Speaker 1: I understand boomers are a larger generation, but these these

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Speaker 1: are kind of the thoughts that we're exploring, and we're saying, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: let's let's give some for gen Z or we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a dramatic political revolution in this country and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get mom Donnism all over the place. So we

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Speaker 1: gotta find a solution. We gotta find solutions. So so

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Speaker 1: how about this as a as a middle ground. If

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Speaker 1: you retired sixty five and you're on fixed income, and

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Speaker 1: it's maybe based on your ability, your your income level,

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Speaker 1: or whatever your wealth level, you could freeze it at

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Speaker 1: a certain level. Because we are seeing dramatic spikes, maybe

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Speaker 1: not currently this year, but especially at COVID. We saw

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Speaker 1: property values shoot up, we saw reassessments shoot up, the

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Speaker 1: amount of property tax elderly on fixed income had to pay.

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Speaker 1: Why can't we find some middle ground there? Or is

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Speaker 1: that the wrong approach.

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Speaker 20: It's just a little tough, Andrew, because the presumption behind

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Speaker 20: that is that the younger family can also simply just

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Speaker 20: absorb that in there where you know, if when we're

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Speaker 20: talking about who actually does get automatic inflation adjusted income Unford,

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Speaker 20: you know, if just to peace we speak quite frankly,

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Speaker 20: it's people who are on Social Security. People on Social

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Speaker 20: Security get the automatic cost of living adjustment, including by

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Speaker 20: the way, they just got from the one big beautiful bill,

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Speaker 20: eighty eight percent of Social Security recipients will now also

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Speaker 20: get a tax free So in terms of the amount

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Speaker 20: of money is specifically state directed money, what you're getting

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Speaker 20: at is that those people actually have much better ability

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Speaker 20: because of their automatic inflation adjusted tax free income to

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Speaker 20: absorb some of the shock that comes while a younger family,

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Speaker 20: you know, technically can go out there and make more money.

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Speaker 20: But of course it's very very difficult in today's job

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Speaker 20: market as well, especially if we look at the wages

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Speaker 20: that track overall inflation, even include CPI inflation. In general,

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Speaker 20: I'm not really for some stuff like that because we've

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Speaker 20: seen the way that it's played out. Let's stay in

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Speaker 20: the state of California, one of the most unaffordable housing

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Speaker 20: markets on the planet, which of course has those frozen

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Speaker 20: property tax rates from the time that people buy, which

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Speaker 20: leads to highly variable problems in the amount that people

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Speaker 20: are paying, very different neighborhoods depending on when you bought,

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Speaker 20: and has explicitly been proven statistically to actually lock a

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Speaker 20: lot of people in housing stock. And I know that

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Speaker 20: that can sound a little bit dystopian, but the thing

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Speaker 20: is is what Blake and I are trying to say is, Look,

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Speaker 20: nobody is advocating for anybody being kicked out of a house,

873
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Speaker 20: but we are accepting market realities where yes, you know,

874
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Speaker 20: with large assessment has also frankly, quite largely increase your

875
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Speaker 20: own personal wealth. And if we look at the history

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Speaker 20: of the United States of America and really at the

877
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Speaker 20: family unit all across the world, you know, downsizing is

878
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Speaker 20: just simply one of the facts of life in many

879
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Speaker 20: societies across the world, it actually would be viewed at,

880
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Speaker 20: you know, extremely strange. This idea of you know, living

881
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Speaker 20: in large, not palatial home, but even a three or

882
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Speaker 20: bedroom multi generational housing is viewed much more, you know,

883
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Speaker 20: as practical and a solution for avoiding having to put

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Speaker 20: people in elderly homes. And that's simply, you know, part

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Speaker 20: of an American characteristic. But more importantly, what I am

886
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Speaker 20: trying to do, beyond even the specifics that you're trying

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Speaker 20: to lay out, is let's not go far in the

888
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Speaker 20: point of the way that we did with entitlements, which

889
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Speaker 20: has led to a lot of the way that we

890
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Speaker 20: are right here. If we abolish property tax, well, we're

891
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Speaker 20: not going to get rid of schools, We're not going

892
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Speaker 20: to get rid of of police. There has to be

893
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Speaker 20: other funding vehicles, and especially in states like Florida and Texas,

894
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Speaker 20: which pride themselves as pro family states, that's going to

895
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Speaker 20: have to probably come in the form of a highly

896
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Speaker 20: regressive sales tax or some other tax which is almost

897
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Speaker 20: certain to hit the worker and the younger family member

898
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Speaker 20: as well as not increasing the amount of housing stock.

899
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Speaker 20: And so we have to accept certain market realities and

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Speaker 20: others that currently exist in the way that our housing

901
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Speaker 20: market works and the way that all of these things

902
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Speaker 20: are funded, and we have to design it so that

903
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Speaker 20: all of us to gather can prosper.

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Speaker 4: And you're right, you know, zoron mom, Donnie.

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Speaker 20: Rent control, in a lot of ways is the inverse

906
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Speaker 20: of your rent control, and rent price fixing specifically is

907
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Speaker 20: the inverse of property tax abolishing abolishment something I'm going

908
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Speaker 20: to borrow there from Blake, and I think people who

909
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Speaker 20: are conservative can rightfully ridicule that while not recognizing their

910
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Speaker 20: own impetus to want that same thing when it benefits themselves.

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Speaker 1: Right twenty seconds, give us your coordinates? How do people

912
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: follow you? Track you, listen to your show Off Things.

913
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Speaker 20: Breaking Points on YouTube, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts

914
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Speaker 20: is Sager on Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, wherever you can find

915
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 20: me on social media. Thank you, guys for having me

916
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Speaker 20: really appreciate it.

917
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Speaker 11: I want to emphasize, because created such a passionate reaction,

918
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Speaker 11: we are not pursuing generational warfare. We're not attacking anyone

919
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Speaker 11: who owns a home, anyone who's retired. We are reminding

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Speaker 11: people we are all in a country and we have

921
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Speaker 11: people with the biggest problems, which are young people, and

922
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Speaker 11: this would ignite generational warfare pursue us, and I think

923
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Speaker 11: we shouldn't do that, and I think Charlie would tell

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Speaker 11: us not to do.

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Speaker 1: That or disbate on this soon Hour two coming up.

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirkshow, Hour two

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Speaker 1: getting under way. I'm Andrew Covet, executive producer of this

928
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Speaker 1: fine show with Blake Neff here in studio, and I'm

929
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Speaker 1: excited about our next guest. That is Byron Donald's congressman

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Speaker 1: from Florida and also candidate for governor of the great

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Speaker 1: State of Florida. So we're are to have him join us. Congressman,

932
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Speaker 1: next governor of Florida. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 9: It's good to be back, man, It's it's good to

934
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Speaker 9: be back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just realized it's Yeah, it's your first time

936
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Speaker 1: back to the show. So please, the floor is yours, Congressman.

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Speaker 9: Honestly, man, we really missed Charlie. We really really miss him.

938
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Speaker 9: But it's going to be back with everybody. I'm excited

939
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Speaker 9: to talk about you know, you know, whatever you want

940
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Speaker 9: to talk about, let's open it up.

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Speaker 1: But like you, I love that. Well, listen, we brought

942
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Speaker 1: you on because we saw you were doing some great

943
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Speaker 1: work with your son who's taken a courageous step and

944
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Speaker 1: turning point. And you've been speaking at at at our

945
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Speaker 1: turning point events on the local level, and I just

946
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Speaker 1: it's amazing. So let's start there. And uh, this is

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Speaker 1: a clip one.

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Speaker 9: The number one reason I believe that young people are

949
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Speaker 9: frustrated is because you followed the advice that they told

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Speaker 9: my generation just go to college and it's all gonna

951
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Speaker 9: work out. And I had peers who got the degree

952
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Speaker 9: and they went into the workforce and realized that the

953
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Speaker 9: degree did not have the value that they told us

954
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Speaker 9: it would.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that you speak, I believe if I because

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Speaker 1: you've I think you've done a few different events, but

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Speaker 1: this is Truman State University, is that right?

958
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Speaker 9: I think that one was at University of Florida. One

959
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Speaker 9: that was at Truman State. I think we're going through

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Speaker 9: all the clips and stuff. We're gonna be releasing that

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Speaker 9: stuff soon as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so your son, Darren is VP of the new

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Speaker 1: Turning Point chapter at Truman State. So shout out to Darren.

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Speaker 1: What an amazing young son you have, and what a

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Speaker 1: way to honor Charlie uh in this really tangible way

966
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Speaker 1: for you to go out there and support it. Congressman,

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Speaker 1: that's it means a lot to us. And when I

968
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Speaker 1: saw those clips going around social media, I was like,

969
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Speaker 1: we gotta get we gotta get Byron back on.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so like here, So here's what happened.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 9: It was a maybe two three weeks, you know, after

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Speaker 9: Charlie was assassinated, and my son text us and he

974
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Speaker 9: was just like, how do we start a Turning Point chapter?

975
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Speaker 9: And so you know, my wife was sending him links.

976
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Speaker 9: You can go here, you can go here. And what

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Speaker 9: happened was I think there were several students on campus

978
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Speaker 9: that were all thinking the same thing. They all got

979
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Speaker 9: together started this chapter so we were actually planning to

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Speaker 9: just go out and visit him and see him. He

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Speaker 9: plays he plays basketball out there. He's a freshman on

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Speaker 9: the basketball team at truman State, and so we were

983
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Speaker 9: just planning to go visit him, and he asked what

984
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Speaker 9: I speak to the Turning Point Club, and I said,

985
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Speaker 9: of course, I'll do it. And then it turned from

986
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Speaker 9: just talking to the club members too. They had to

987
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Speaker 9: move the venue into the biggest auditorium on campus. So

988
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Speaker 9: it was a great event, great evening. Got a chance

989
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Speaker 9: to talk to a lot of young people here directly

990
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Speaker 9: from them, you know, and they do have concerns, and

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Speaker 9: I think it's really important what Charlie started and his

992
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Speaker 9: legacy is reaching young people for common sense, conservative policy

993
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Speaker 9: and values in a Western and Western civilization. As long

994
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Speaker 9: as we can continue that effort and that focus of

995
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Speaker 9: making sure young people understand the policies and the value

996
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Speaker 9: sets that make America the greatest country in the world,

997
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Speaker 9: there'll be no stop in us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well said, Congressman. And you are, of course

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00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: running for governor of the great state of Florida. And

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Speaker 1: just before uh you joined, we had Saga and Jetty

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Speaker 1: talking about an issue that's Germane to Florida. Obviously, the

1002
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Speaker 1: conversation about property taxes. Now I want to I want

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Speaker 1: to brief you because you probably missed it. Blake is

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Speaker 1: anti getting rid of them. I am much more sympathetic

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Speaker 1: because there's a part of me that's.

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Speaker 11: Our viewers are vary in favor of getting a bet

1007
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 11: that I am. It's me against the title wave on

1008
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Speaker 11: this one.

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Speaker 1: Right. So if Blake thinks it's a sort of boomer

1010
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: populism or something, maybe not that that's a blunt way

1011
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: to say it.

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Speaker 11: I think, you know, I don't want to because people

1013
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 11: are getting so mad. I don't want to emphasize it

1014
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 11: necessarily helping the older people. I want to emphasize I

1015
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Speaker 11: think it's bad for younger people. All right, So that's

1016
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Speaker 11: maybe that's a more winning Yeah, I don't know, but.

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Speaker 1: I think of it as like, listen, you work your

1018
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: whole life, you buy a piece of property, but you

1019
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: never really own it. You're just constantly renting it from

1020
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Speaker 1: the government. I tell that's my instinct. It's like I

1021
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Speaker 1: want to work my whole life and own something. Now,

1022
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Speaker 1: where do you fall on this issue, Congressman?

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Speaker 9: Well, actually, my view is one we should eliminate homestead

1024
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Speaker 9: property taxes. I agree with Governor DeSantis. I do agree

1025
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Speaker 9: with the philosophical point that you shouldn't have to rent,

1026
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Speaker 9: essentially have to pay a lease or a fee to

1027
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Speaker 9: the government for you to be able to keep your property.

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Speaker 9: And I do fundamentally agree with that from a philosophical standpoint.

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Speaker 9: I think in terms of where we are in Florida, look,

1030
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Speaker 9: I think we're going to go down to the line

1031
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Speaker 9: of repealing homestead property taxes. The Governor's adamant about this.

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Speaker 9: I think what we need to see now is the

1033
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Speaker 9: governor's full plan. I know he's working on that now.

1034
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Speaker 9: I think his full plan being given to the people

1035
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Speaker 9: of Florida is going to be critical for this to

1036
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Speaker 9: go from something that is an idea, something that should

1037
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Speaker 9: be a scomplished, to actually being implemented, because we're going

1038
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Speaker 9: to have to go through a couple of things paying

1039
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Speaker 9: How are we going to fund sheriffs and sheriff deputies

1040
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Speaker 9: and police officers. How are we going to pay firefighters,

1041
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 9: road construction, road maintenance. These are the things that local

1042
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Speaker 9: governments do pay for, so how are we going to

1043
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Speaker 9: make sure those things don't get disturbed? That's number one,

1044
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Speaker 9: and we go from there. So I support it. I

1045
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Speaker 9: do support repealing homestair property taxes. I agree that people

1046
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 9: should not have to pay a fee to the government

1047
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Speaker 9: just for the privilege of being able to keep their home.

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Speaker 9: But there are key services that local governments provide. We

1049
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Speaker 9: want to make sure that that funding is there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. My take is if there's a smart way to

1051
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Speaker 1: do it where you're not hollowing at your education system,

1052
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Speaker 1: your fire department, and not shift the burden tax burden

1053
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Speaker 1: to younger families that are trying to get started. I

1054
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Speaker 1: mean that's one of the bene's of Florida. You could

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Speaker 1: start a family there. You can believe that the public

1056
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Speaker 1: school system is going to not be indoctrinated in your kid.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the appeal, right if you want to

1058
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Speaker 1: start a family, States like Texas and Florida the places

1059
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Speaker 1: you want to go so.

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Speaker 16: Well, real quick, real quick, Yeah, real quick.

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Speaker 9: And I think this is import because we want to

1062
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Speaker 9: talk about young people. The reason why I think a

1063
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Speaker 9: repeal of homestead property taxes helps first time home buyers

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Speaker 9: is because when you go to buy a home, it's

1065
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Speaker 9: you're not just paying a sticker costs you also have

1066
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Speaker 9: to pay the closing costs associated with buying it. When

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Speaker 9: you go through closing on a piece of property, especially

1068
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Speaker 9: on a home, you have to escrow pay up front

1069
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Speaker 9: a year's worth of property taxes, and so depending on

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Speaker 9: what you're buying, that's several thousand dollars. So it actually,

1071
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Speaker 9: in my opinion, helps young people acquire that first home

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Speaker 9: because it decreases the cost. It decreases closing costs because

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Speaker 9: you're not having to escrow taxes for acquiring the property.

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Speaker 9: So that's where I think that a repeal of property

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Speaker 9: taxes or for home set of property does actually help

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Speaker 9: young people get into the game of home ownership.

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Speaker 11: How About I think something that there's more unity on

1078
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Speaker 11: is the way you can lower housing presses across the

1079
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Speaker 11: word is.

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Speaker 16: Just build more houses overall.

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Speaker 11: Yes, and Florida, yes, overalls has been good at that

1082
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Speaker 11: long term, but I know there are rising.

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Speaker 16: Costs there now. So how about we look at what's

1084
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Speaker 16: the plan there.

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Speaker 11: How do you make sure Florida's had a ton of

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Speaker 11: people moving there, how do you make sure that they

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Speaker 11: can be building houses both for the new arrivals and for.

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Speaker 16: The children of people who've been living there. Their whole lives.

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Speaker 9: Well, let me talk about Florida specifically. The first thing

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Speaker 9: is we have to really streamline the permitting and planning

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Speaker 9: processes in our state. Right now, in Florida, if you're

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Speaker 9: going to build a single family home, it takes anywhere

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Speaker 9: from eighteen months to two and a half years of

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Speaker 9: permitting before you can put a shovel in the ground.

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Speaker 9: So you have just dead time in these projects. And

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Speaker 9: this dead time where you're going through permitting is not free.

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Speaker 9: That adds to the cost of constructing the home, and

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Speaker 9: that's paid by the consumer. It also delays the ability

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Speaker 9: to actually build housing at scale so that you see

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Speaker 9: prices overall come down. One of the reasons why our

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Speaker 9: property values increase so rapidly in Florida is because during

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Speaker 9: COVID nineteen, when by the way, Governor Desandis did the

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Speaker 9: best job in America of leading our state. He was

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Speaker 9: the best. It wasn't close. But what happened is so

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Speaker 9: many people chose Florida, but we didn't have the housing

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Speaker 9: stock to meet the demand, so prices went up, and

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Speaker 9: so it's supply and demand like how it works anywhere else.

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Speaker 9: So what we do have to do is build the

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Speaker 9: necessary housing as efficiently as possible, so you have more

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Speaker 9: housing stock on the market. That stabilizes housing prices. It

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Speaker 9: could even reduce it in some areas, and that's another

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Speaker 9: way to open up home ownership for young people.

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Speaker 16: On Capitol Hill, we got.

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Speaker 9: To get rid of these stupid regulations around housing, and

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Speaker 9: also these dumb regulations around around procuring raw materials, because

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Speaker 9: that increases the material costs that goes directly into construction,

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Speaker 9: which goes directly into the cost of the home. And

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Speaker 9: some of the Green New Deal weatherization stuff on homes

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Speaker 9: that had made home construction more expensive. It's a problem too.

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Speaker 1: Hitting that Brake, I could we could keep talking for

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Speaker 1: a whole lot longer, Congressman, thank you for joining. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna hit a radio break. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 15: The Charlie Kirk Show Where Truth Lives Man.

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Speaker 1: That was great seeing Byron Donald's again. It had been

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Speaker 1: a while. We could have kept talking for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Actually about property tax running a state. We had Epstein

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Speaker 1: files we were gonna get to had a bunch on

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Speaker 1: the docket with him, So we'll have him on again

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Speaker 1: soon to get to all of that. But first I'm

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Speaker 1: can imagine that run that company, and it filters into

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Speaker 1: in a situation where you have private student loans that

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Speaker 1: what your credit score is. They don't care if you

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Speaker 1: even skip a payment every six months up to twelve times.

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Speaker 1: You could do so without penalty. So you don't have

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Speaker 1: to ignore that mountain of student loan statements on your

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Speaker 1: kitchen table anymore. Y Refight is gonna be there to help,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna want to check them out. We love those guys,

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Speaker 1: all right, Blake. In the next segment, we are going

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Speaker 1: to hit what I apparently is like causing quite a

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Speaker 1: kerfuffle a stir online and this is viral video. They're

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Speaker 1: saying it's viral. I guess it qualifies as viral. Six

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Speaker 1: Democrats urge military members to refuse illegal orders. Pete Hegseth

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Speaker 1: obviously had to respond because this was Senator Slotkin. Who

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Speaker 1: else it was Senator Slotkin? It was I think it

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Speaker 1: was posted on her video and or her ax account,

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Speaker 1: and there was also the senator from Arizona and some congressmen.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into that in the next segment.

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Speaker 1: But it is disturbing. I think what they're talking about,

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Speaker 1: let's just be honest, is blowing up cartel boats and

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Speaker 1: national Guard. I mean, that's right, that's got to be

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Speaker 1: what they're talking about. We will have that in the

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Speaker 1: next segment on radio, and then in the second half

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Speaker 1: of the hour, we're gonna welcome two chapter presidents from

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Speaker 1: Turning Point. People seem to love those segments that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have them at the second half of the hour.

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Speaker 1: We'll be read back with national Radio in two seconds.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Blake,

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Speaker 1: there is a video now posted to Senator slotkin x

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Speaker 1: feed of lawmakers telling the military to defy illegal orders.

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Speaker 1: And this is causing quite a stir. Let's go ahead

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Speaker 1: and play it. Cut to thirty five.

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Speaker 10: No, this is hard, and that it's a difficult time

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Speaker 10: to be a public servant.

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Speaker 4: But whether you're serving in the CIA.

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Speaker 12: The Army, or Navy, the Air Force.

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Speaker 1: Your vigilance is critical.

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Speaker 12: And know that we have your back because now more than.

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Speaker 5: Ever, the American people need you.

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Speaker 4: We need you to stand up.

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Speaker 15: For our laws, for our constitution and who we are

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Speaker 15: as Americans.

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Speaker 12: Don't give up.

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Speaker 9: Don't give up.

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Speaker 7: Don't give up.

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Speaker 4: Don't give up the ship.

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Speaker 16: The music is there a longer formula.

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Speaker 11: It's all very vague, which is probably intentional and intentional,

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Speaker 11: but yeah, I guess the intent. It takes me back

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Speaker 11: to a very dark moment in twenty twenty. It was

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Speaker 11: when all the riots were happening and Trump was talking,

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Speaker 11: you know, I might send the guard into cities to

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Speaker 11: restore orders when the looting starts. The shooting starts, I believe,

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Speaker 11: he said, And the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs I

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Speaker 11: think it was million at the time, he released a

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Speaker 11: letter to the Armed Forces that was eventually either leaked

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Speaker 11: or published that said basically, we're going to remind everyone

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Speaker 11: that the military is the guardian of our constitution and

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Speaker 11: the freedom of speech and the rights of protest. And

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Speaker 11: nothing eventually came of that, but I had the very

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Speaker 11: dark thought that what he was laying the groundwork for

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Speaker 11: it was twenty twenty. Everyone was losing their minds. Was

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Speaker 11: Trump was going to say, go in and restore order

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Speaker 11: in DC or in Minneapolis, and they were going to refuse.

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Speaker 11: They were going to say, we're not going to do that,

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Speaker 11: We're going to side with the rioters, and you'd basically

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Speaker 11: have a revolutionary moment, a constitutional crisis, akoupdeta. And you

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Speaker 11: kind of get the feeling they're trying to set that

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Speaker 11: up here that they want to have the military to

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Speaker 11: start openly defying President Trump's orders as commander in chief,

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Speaker 11: and that is a very dark constitutional rubicon to cross.

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Speaker 1: You do not want to cross that at all. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's why they were being so vague. I

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Speaker 1: think they knew. I think they knew that they were

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Speaker 1: being provocative.

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Speaker 16: They wanted to big adjust, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 11: And you know, because there's all defensive ways of course,

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Speaker 11: you don't follow illegal orders. If he orders you to

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Speaker 11: commit a war crime, you're not supposed to do that.

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Speaker 11: But it is not a war crime to secure America's borders,

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Speaker 11: It is not a war crime to protect Americans from crime.

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Speaker 11: It is not a war crime to deport people illegally

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Speaker 11: in this country, thank you very much. And they're deliberately

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Speaker 11: trying to moddel those concepts to further the idea that

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Speaker 11: it's okay to just.

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Speaker 16: Flout and defy laws they don't like.

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Speaker 11: I mean, we see that with Mamdanni in New York,

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Speaker 11: where I think just the other day he was saying, yes,

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Speaker 11: we follow international law, so if not in Yahoo visits

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Speaker 11: in New York, I'm going to arrest him. But we

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Speaker 11: don't follow US federal law, where if you enter this

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Speaker 11: country illegally as an invader, you get sent home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's a really good point. They're willing to

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Speaker 1: flout our own domestic laws because they actually hate this country.

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Speaker 1: Lotmakers appearing in this video include Senator Slotkin from Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Senator Mark Kelly from this state in Arizona, Representative Chris

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Speaker 1: Deluzio from Pennsylvania. Rep. Maggie Goodlander from New Hampshire. Rep.

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Speaker 1: Chrissy Hulahan from Pennsylvania and Rep. Jason Crow. So the

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Speaker 1: you can refuse they so they basically the video is

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Speaker 1: them reciting this version of the of the line you

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Speaker 1: can refuse illegal orders, you must refuse illegal orders. And

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Speaker 1: it's again they're vague, but we're assuming they're talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, these cartel boats that apparently have drugs laden

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Speaker 1: with drugs coming to the United States and international waters.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what number we're up to, but they've

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Speaker 1: they've blown up a number of these boats. Yeah, they have.

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Speaker 1: And it's controversial. Even guys like Rampile I.

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Speaker 11: Acknowledge it's risky, Like it's very bad, the extremely bad.

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Speaker 11: The first time this goes awry and you blow up

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Speaker 11: you know, a fisherman's boat. Uh, you know some guy

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Speaker 11: just on who decided to cruise the Caribbean in a

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Speaker 11: manner resembling drugg It's it's very risky to do this.

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Speaker 11: We saw that in the Middle East. We had those

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Speaker 11: signature strikes. They'd call them where anyone, you know, a

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Speaker 11: group of they look like, you know, eighteen to thirty

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Speaker 11: year old men in a group and we'll just kind

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Speaker 11: of presumptively label them terrorists and we blew up people.

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Speaker 11: Not even just in Afghanistan, we're doing that in Yemen,

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Speaker 11: we were doing that in Syria, and were most of

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Speaker 11: them probably what we were going for?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, but we're all of them?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, but listen, I am very in favor of

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Speaker 1: that policy because I think it. I think there's probably

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Speaker 1: really good intel on most of these. But you're right,

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Speaker 1: they have to be and we don't know, and in

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Speaker 1: doubt probably don't.

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Speaker 16: So far, they seem to evolved been extremely on point.

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Speaker 1: Because but to your point, though, the other thing that

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Speaker 1: they're probably railing against is deportations and the National Guard

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Speaker 1: being in some of these blue cities. Now we've seen Memphis, Chicago,

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Speaker 1: d C. When the National Guard is president, when they

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Speaker 1: ramp up deportations, crime is dropping precipitous.

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Speaker 11: It was funny is they don't even need to do

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Speaker 11: much like the National Guard. If you've been to DC,

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Speaker 11: they are most just sort of standing around in high

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Speaker 11: visibility areas. Yet even that bare minimum effort of showing

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Speaker 11: you care is actually lowering crime.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. It's not just lower, it's like falling. You

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Speaker 1: just have to show you mean it, yes, and that's

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Speaker 1: that's my point. With these boats, these boat, these strikes

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Speaker 1: on boats in the Caribbean, you mean business and the

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Speaker 1: cartels are going to take up.

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Speaker 11: It's not that you're going to blow up hundreds of boats,

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Speaker 11: It's that you'll blow up five and the boats will go.

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Speaker 1: Away, and you don't know which boat might get blown up,

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Speaker 1: So you're not gonna set off with a bunch of

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Speaker 1: drugs heading to the mainland. Next up we have Dino

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Speaker 1: Fantagrassi and Brady Salmon, two Chapter Presidents from Turning Point, USA.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 6: gives away free gold with every qualifying purchase. That's that's

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Speaker 6: right for Black Friday. When you convert an existing IRA

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Speaker 6: or four to one k into a tax sheltered IRA

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Speaker 6: in gold, the Birch Gold Group will send free gold

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Speaker 6: back to this Real America's Voice newsbreak. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 6: President Trump has been busy over the last couple of

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Speaker 6: days entertaining Saudi gas. He of course hosted Saudi Arabia's

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Speaker 6: spoke with Saudi investors.

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Speaker 19: Tariffs have been, frankly the best things that's ever happened

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Speaker 19: to our country. They've always been used against us, and

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Speaker 19: we never had people that were smart enough to use

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Speaker 19: them in the opposite direction. But there you do, and

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Speaker 19: we have taken in trillions of dollars and it's been

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Speaker 19: absolutely amazing well being. We're going to be doing a

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Speaker 19: dividend to the people low and middle income, moderate income

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Speaker 19: we'll be paying down debt very substantially. It's kind of

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Speaker 19: money we're taking in, and really, countries that took advantage

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Speaker 19: of us, I'm no longer taking advantage of us.

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Speaker 6: Saudi Arabia, by the way, has committed to invest about

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Speaker 6: one trillion dollars in the US economy.

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Speaker 1: slash kirk. All right, people love these segments when we

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Speaker 1: do them. They want to hear from the kids themselves

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Speaker 1: that are working on these campuses. So back by popular demand,

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Speaker 1: we are doing a Chapter President segment with Dino Fantagrassi

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Speaker 1: from the University of Arkansas, the TPUSA chapter president there,

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Speaker 1: and Brady Salmon, the TPSA chapter president at the University

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Speaker 1: of Kentucky. So welcome Dino and Brady.

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Speaker 12: Hello, thank you, thank you for having us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good to see you guys again. Uh Lee, So

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Speaker 1: hold on, Dino, did we met at the at the

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Speaker 1: round at the in Student Action summit in Tampa?

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Speaker 2: Brady was there too?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Brady? Good good, good good. All right, there we go. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about some of these the topics

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Speaker 1: about Israel and Amas and all this stuff, kind of

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Speaker 1: how it's playing out. Yeah, we have Danny Phillip here,

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Speaker 1: who's our resident gen zer on set twenty three years old, right, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: old man compared to these young guys. All right, so

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Speaker 1: tell us how things are going in the wake of

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Speaker 1: you know, what happened with Charlie the tragedy there. What

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Speaker 1: are you seeing on your campuses? Let's start there.

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Speaker 14: Well, yeah, campus is sorry, I would say statewide, it's

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Speaker 14: been going very well. We've had some issues with getting

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Speaker 14: chapters started because administrators are really pushing back on getting

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Speaker 14: a chapter started in our region. But in terms of

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Speaker 14: there's a lot of them that are doing very well,

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Speaker 14: and we're getting a lot of volunteers. And we actually

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Speaker 14: have an event today that we're advertising for and it's

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Speaker 14: been going very well. So we're very excited about how

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Speaker 14: we're doing.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about the event.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we're having Paige ru come in tonight at seven o'clock.

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Speaker 14: She is going to talk about the Second Amendment and

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Speaker 14: people are very excited about it. It's a very fun

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Speaker 14: topic and we're looking to fill the room too capacity,

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Speaker 14: so we're very excited.

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Speaker 1: I love it. How many events per quarter? What do

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Speaker 1: you guys do it? Just kind of and by the way,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the wake of Charlie's assassination, are you

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Speaker 1: seeing increased energy? Like you said, you're thinking you're going

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Speaker 1: to fill the room to capacity. That's huge. Was that

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Speaker 1: the case before?

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Speaker 13: You know?

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Speaker 2: I think we've sort of found ourselves in a bit

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Speaker 2: of an interesting situation in Arkansas where we went from

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Speaker 2: having about seventy five or members at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the semester. I think last time I said we were

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Speaker 2: somewhere in the three hundred. It's really four hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty today at my chapter. So the growth just keeps happening,

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Speaker 2: which is really awesome to see. But Arkansas, we have

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Speaker 2: this weird issue where we really fight this battle of

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Speaker 2: the apathetic voter. People are just disinterested in politics because

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Speaker 2: the state is considered so read that conservatives don't seem

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Speaker 2: to care that much because they say, well, my state's

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Speaker 2: not going to change that much. Well, that might be true,

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Speaker 2: that might not be true. In fact, maybe it's the

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Speaker 2: case that your politicians aren't actually voting for what you

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Speaker 2: want them to be voting for, but because it's so red,

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Speaker 2: you don't pay attention, so you don't notice that. I

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Speaker 2: might argue that's the case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think you're right. We get this a lot,

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Speaker 1: and Charlie would talk about it a lot. How in

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Speaker 1: red states you know, actually, by the way, he mentioned

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Speaker 1: this about Utah, how when it's considered to be safely read,

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Speaker 1: you end up getting worse politicians because there's not the

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Speaker 1: pressure cookers not less pressure.

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Speaker 11: And also there's a type of person who goes into

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Speaker 11: politics because they like status, they like being with a

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Speaker 11: group of people who run things, And in blue states

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Speaker 11: they just default to be in Democrats.

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Speaker 16: In red states they default to be in Republicans.

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Speaker 21: Well, I mean, does kind of happen in Kentucky where

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Speaker 21: Brady's at. They have Bashar is the governor there, and

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Speaker 21: it's and it's a relatively conservative state, but a lot

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Speaker 21: of conservatives like to stay home, and that's how you

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Speaker 21: get a democratic governor there.

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Speaker 1: Well, and also Basher plays plays the moderate and the

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Speaker 1: well the pretend, pretend. So, guys, let's talk about a

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Speaker 1: couple issues that are bubbling up right now, and that

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Speaker 1: is the affordability crisis. Gen Z kids are staring down

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Speaker 1: a very unpredictable labor market. Let's just say, with AI

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Speaker 1: and robotics, automation plus the H one B thing, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about that are how are gen zers, especially those

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Speaker 1: getting close to graduation. How are you guys approaching this issue?

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Speaker 1: What are people saying are is there a lot of

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Speaker 1: fear out there with some of these people that are

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Speaker 1: looking at graduating soon about the job market and about

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Speaker 1: the affordability crisis? Dino, go ahead and start man.

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Speaker 2: I wish more people would pay attention to this. I

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Speaker 2: think some do. But when it comes to H one B,

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Speaker 2: look at a company like Microsoft that just a couple

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Speaker 2: of months ago they did a mass layoff and at

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Speaker 2: the exact same time they applied for six thousand new

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Speaker 2: H one B programs, and then they have the audacity

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Speaker 2: to tell us that the United States is the lack

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Speaker 2: of skilled workers. How can those two things possibly be

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Speaker 2: the same. Either you're saying Americans are stupid and you

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Speaker 2: went to college went into potentially upwards of one hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars in debt for nothing, or you are saying

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Speaker 2: that it is simply cheaper to pay somebody from out

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Speaker 2: of the country. It's one of the two, and I

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Speaker 2: think it's the latter, and it's insulting to people in

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Speaker 2: my generation. I wish more people would pay attention to it.

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Speaker 2: And the reason that it persists is because they don't.

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Speaker 2: And so there is still this perspective from a lot

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Speaker 2: of people in our generation, more so sort of like

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Speaker 2: the soft conservatives and especially the liberals that you know,

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Speaker 2: legal immigrations find maybe they'll maybe some of the liberals

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Speaker 2: will be like, but a legal immigration is bad. No,

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Speaker 2: I mean, all of it is hurting Americans currently for

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Speaker 2: the most part. And that's not to say there isn't

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Speaker 2: the occasional reason to bring in a legal immigrant. Probably

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Speaker 2: there is. That's not even to say that there isn't

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Speaker 2: a reason to bring in h one p's, but it's

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Speaker 2: certainly not strictly bringing in the top skilled laborers. I mean, like,

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Speaker 2: how many super geniuses are there out there? Not that many,

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Speaker 2: And we have plenty of Americans here with some of

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Speaker 2: the highest quality education in the world. So what are

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Speaker 2: we doing?

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Speaker 1: It's upping us? Well, do you know what you're saying

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Speaker 1: kind of relates to a sovereign braw tweet one five

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Speaker 1: put this pickup. He says, older generations shouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 1: if Gen Z is the most radicalized generation of American history.

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Speaker 1: Their youth was stolen via COVID lockdowns, their jobs were

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Speaker 1: given to immigrants in AI, which you just touched on,

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Speaker 1: and they can't afford basic necessities like the generations before

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Speaker 1: them could. Now, you guys are very plugged in politically,

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Speaker 1: so Brady, are you you know, for the normies on campus,

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Speaker 1: are you seeing this kind of energy? Are they feeling

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Speaker 1: the pinch of affordability? Are they scared about it? Are

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Speaker 1: they scared about the job market?

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Speaker 12: I think definitely. And it's so interesting.

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Speaker 14: You get people that are in engineering, you get people

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Speaker 14: that are in statistics or finance, it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 14: it is.

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Speaker 12: They're all very stressed out about it.

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Speaker 14: And I think we're seeing that right now in the

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Speaker 14: polls because bavekam Swami in a state that Trump's won

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Speaker 14: in the past three elections. He's currently losing in his race,

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Speaker 14: so he is currently struggling and he is very much

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Speaker 14: defending the h one bs and I think that's going

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Speaker 14: to hurt him in his race. So I think people

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Speaker 14: are really underestimating politically how much of an issue this

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Speaker 14: really is. And to echo what Dino said, I believe

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Speaker 14: will came to an educational segment on Fox, eighty percent

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Speaker 14: of these h one b's are entry level jobs. So

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Speaker 14: when you feel like people like Trump do these conferences

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Speaker 14: where he says that these are for the super geniuses

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Speaker 14: coming from Asia and India.

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Speaker 12: It's like, well, are they actually really or are they

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Speaker 12: doing these.

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 14: Entry level jobs taking jobs from Americans and then getting

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Speaker 14: paid a lower wage to save the company from having

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Speaker 14: to pay man.

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Speaker 1: I think I really hope that people are listening to this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are expressing and articulating political viewpoints

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01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: about sophisticated topics that I think sometimes older generations don't

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01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: understand that you guys are just tuned into it, and

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01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: so I'm going to ask this one more time though again,

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Speaker 1: you guys are very plugged in. Are you saying this

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Speaker 1: is stuff that you are hearing from? Like, just like

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Speaker 1: I said, normies on campus, either of you can go.

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Speaker 2: To some degree. I mean, I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people that I've talked to are more pissed off about

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01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 2: the six hundred thousand Chinese students than they are specifically

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01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 2: H one B, which is valid. And then some people

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Speaker 2: try and defend it and say it's fine. Didn't our

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01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: own state departments say under the last residential administration Joe

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01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 2: Biden that like a third of Chinese visa like students

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01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: are CCP spies that are taking our proprietary technologies and

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01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 2: sending them back to their country.

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Speaker 12: Like, should that.

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Speaker 2: Not alone be disqualified? Take out the entire labor market?

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Speaker 2: Or it costs like driving up the prices of college

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Speaker 2: admissions because there's only so many spots on a college campus.

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Speaker 2: Take out all of that. Isn't that just a national

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Speaker 2: security issue? People were mad about that that doesn't even

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Speaker 2: have to do anything with price.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely so if you so, we're gonna let's

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Speaker 1: get into Israel in the final segment. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about that in the final segment. Last question, I

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01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: think for this segment, we've got about tw and a

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Speaker 1: half minutes left. Guys, without me giving you the idea

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01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: or the topic, what would you say are the things

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01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: young people care about most right now, the things they're

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01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: most worried about or whatever? First to you, Brady, I would.

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Speaker 14: Say young people are very passionate about Americans sovereign and

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01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 14: American sovereignty extends to H one b's where Americans aren't

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Speaker 14: getting jobs, it extends to foreign ad to Israel and

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Speaker 14: other allies.

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Speaker 12: That's something that gen Z is very much worried about.

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Speaker 14: I would say that's a big blanket statement that it

1552
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 14: really does cover a few different topics where people feel

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01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 14: like American sovereignty and powerfulness and individuality is really losing

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01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 14: to globalism, to foreign aid, into many different things.

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Speaker 1: So national sovereignty is ascended. And are you hearing that

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Speaker 1: from liberals or is this mostly conservatives?

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Speaker 14: I would say mostly conservatives where it's a really big issue,

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01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 14: and that's talking moderate all the way to more radical conservatives.

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Speaker 14: It's a very much supporting issue American nationalism that is

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01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 14: very much widespread across campus for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, what about you, Dino, What are people talking about?

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Speaker 1: What are they worried about? Number one? Number two issues?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think I have to go with the

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Speaker 2: same thing. He already touched on a lot of the

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Speaker 2: national sovereignty, so the number two would have to be

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Speaker 2: the economy. And I think you know, last time we

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01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 2: were here, we were talking about will zoorun mom Donnie

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01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 2: get elected or not? And he did. I mean that

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01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 2: wasn't really a surprise. It's New York. But a lot

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Speaker 2: of the reason that this is the case is because,

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Speaker 2: whether we like it or not, the reality is zo

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01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 2: rounmm Donnie provided solutions to people in my generation. Those

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01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 2: solutions were insane. He was promising free money, and there's

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01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 2: no such thing as free money, but people will still

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01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,879
Speaker 2: latch onto that if the other guy isn't offering anything.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you had Chris Cuomo, who is just a

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Speaker 2: or excuse me, Andrew Cuomo, who's just a complete joke.

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Speaker 2: And then you had Curtis sleeve While who's talking about

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01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 2: the mob trying to kill him the whole time. The

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Speaker 2: only option was Zorron. In a lot of people's mind

1581
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Speaker 2: because at least he was saying he was going to

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Speaker 2: do something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough.

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Speaker 21: That's why we saw what like close to ten percent

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Speaker 21: of Trump voters in twenty four voted for Mom Donnie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. People need to understand that the youth vote for

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01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: Trump and the huge gains that we saw and what

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01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: Charlie contributed to, those are not Those are not set

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Speaker 1: and done, Those are not guaranteed. We have to deliver,

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01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 1: and so Charlie was always big on, especially in his

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Speaker 1: final months, talking about we're in a race against the clock.

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Speaker 1: We have three and a half minute, three and a

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01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 1: half years and now three to really deliver on some

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Speaker 1: of these economic policies and make sure that life gets

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01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: better for young people. Hang right there, guys, we have

1596
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Speaker 1: another segment with you. This has been really good already,

1597
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Speaker 1: but I want to tell you about Alan Jackson his

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Speaker 1: the White House. Issues in the church. He doesn't just

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Speaker 15: Letting everyone out. Socialism sucks The Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. So, Danny,

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Speaker 1: our resident gen Zer here is telling me that gen

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Speaker 1: Z doomerism.

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01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's at an all time high right now.

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01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 1: It's basically like, explain what that means to our audience.

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01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 21: Okay, So they see the h one B stuff, they

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01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 21: see what Trump's saying and basically they're like, you know what,

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01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 21: there's no hope for us right now. Trump no longer

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01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 21: cares like what we voted for doesn't matter. That's what

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01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 21: kind of census thinking is. But it kind of contradicts

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01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 21: kind of what the overall voting is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two thirty four, we can throw up two thirty

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01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: four real quick.

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Speaker 21: So this poll shows that Trump's higher at this point

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01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 21: in his second term than Bush and Obama at their

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01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 21: point their second term, just in terms of approval.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And so it's funny because they all go down

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01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they're all going downward,

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01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: which is not a good sign.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so Dumerism is at an all time high.

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Speaker 1: What do you guys? Just we got ten seconds here.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys agree with that? You feel like some

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01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 1: gen z doomerism? Absolutely? Okay, we got work to do, folks.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna welcome back national radio in about ten seconds.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. We're gonna ask about Israel and Dumerism

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01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 1: sounds like, all.

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01:23:47,680 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 22: Right, we'll be right back, all right, welcome back to

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01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 22: the Charlie Kirk Show.

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01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So, uh, we're gonna get to this in just

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01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: a second, because, uh, you know apparently. Well, actually, I

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Speaker 1: think we can get to it right now. I thought

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Speaker 1: I had to read. I thought I had to read,

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Speaker 1: but I don't. Uh So Danny is telling this is

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Speaker 1: not a scientific poll, but this is like a consensus

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Speaker 1: online that the gen Z Doumerism is.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it's at all time high and it ties directly

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01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 21: into all the other stuff we're seeing, h one B, Israel, everything. So, uh,

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01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 21: do you know if you want to start?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 16: You do you agree? What is Dumerism?

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01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: Probably find the term, yeah, to find the term.

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01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: Sure, So Dumerism, the the the black pill, maybe you've

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01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 2: heard it called before, is the idea that everything sucks,

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Speaker 2: it's never gonna get better, and nothing ever happens. You've

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Speaker 2: probably seen some of these before on the internet, if

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01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 2: you've ever been there before, on Twitter, and it's a

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Speaker 2: real phenomenon. A lot in my generation people saying, well,

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Speaker 2: everything sucks. Donald Trump's not fulfilling a single campaign promise.

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Speaker 2: Let's okay. And I understand where they're coming from because

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Speaker 2: the big ones that they really want to see done

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01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 2: perhaps are going a little slowly, be it immigration enforcement.

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Speaker 2: And the thing that I keep coming back to is, look,

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Speaker 2: you've got to have a little grace. You've got to

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Speaker 2: have a little patience. Like, our country did not become

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01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 2: so screwed up overnight. Rome wasn't built in a day,

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Speaker 2: and we're not going to fix it overnight either. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's been like eighty years since FDR was president, which

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Speaker 2: I credit with a lot of the start of the

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Speaker 2: government bloat in our country. It's not going to be

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Speaker 2: toppled overnight by any means. But look, we've got coming

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Speaker 2: down the line in January through March, probably another ten

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Speaker 2: thousand immigration enforcement officers are going to be finally done

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Speaker 2: with their training and hitting the streets. You're going to

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Speaker 2: see deportation speed up. We are making incremental gains on

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Speaker 2: a lot of the policy positions that we have. It's

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Speaker 2: just not happening immediately, and people are so dejected and

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Speaker 2: they want to latch onto something that they can't They

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01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: can't see the forest through the trees that you know.

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Speaker 2: They just get so caught up in the immediate because

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01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: we're all stuck on our phones looking at social media

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Speaker 2: algorithms that we're just it's all doom and gloom all

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Speaker 2: the time, because that's all you see on Twitter. I

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Speaker 2: think Brady wants to speak a little more in that

1690
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 2: go for a breather.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, gosh, if you're on Twitter and Instagram, you would

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01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 14: think Trump's approple rating is twenty percent because you have

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Speaker 14: left wing people as prideful as ever criticizing Trump, and

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01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 14: then you have people right wing saying Maga is dead.

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Speaker 12: So you have basically everyone both left and right.

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Speaker 14: Wing, criticizing Trump and saying America is in a terrible

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Speaker 14: place and it's only going to get worse. But we

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01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 14: actually see with that prople ratings, people are actually generally

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Speaker 14: happy with where the country is going, and it's really

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01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 14: actually a misrepresentative overall of what the American politics looks like.

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Speaker 14: And I think this duomor stuff does apply to Israel,

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01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 14: which we are going to talk about as well, because

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01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 14: it does directly relate to where people think Americans are

1704
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 14: really are getting sold out to foreign countries, which kind

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01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 14: of gets back to the American sovereignty stuff that I

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Speaker 14: talked about earlier.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So one of the things that I'm noticing just

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Speaker 1: talking with you guys is that it's it's just like

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01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: you've you've brought up h one b's like I think

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01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 1: five or six times, and I have not asked you

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01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: to do that. You just keep bringing it up. And

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01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: I think that's really telling because we could see it

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01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: as sort of this abstract sort of Twitter debate or

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01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: something like that. You're saying, like on campus, this is

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01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 1: this is front and center for you guys. This is

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01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:31,520
Speaker 1: something you talk about a lot. Let's let's quickly transition

1717
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: to the Israel topic. If you just had to gauge

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01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 1: with amongst your peers, sixty percent, how many of your peers,

1719
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: let's say, conservatives and then maybe can include liberals there,

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Speaker 1: how many are supportive of the US Israel relationship.

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Speaker 14: Gosh, on campus it is slim, both left and right wing.

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Speaker 9: I am.

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Speaker 14: I'm honestly having trouble meeting people conservative or liberal that

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Speaker 14: only support the Israeli regime or their invasion of Palestine.

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Speaker 12: It is very hard to find people supportive right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, we won't quibble on the use of the

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Speaker 1: word invasion, but you know, it's certainly different people would

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Speaker 1: vrite it differently.

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Speaker 2: Right What about you, Dah, I mean, I agree it's

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Speaker 2: slend to none. Look, I'm not a big fan of

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Speaker 2: everything that's going on with Israel. Like I said on

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Speaker 2: the Charlie Kurt the big roundtable that we did a

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Speaker 2: couple months ago. Like, I find it insulting when we

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Speaker 2: send money to all these foreign countries when we've got

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Speaker 2: such huge issues in our country. Be it the fact

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Speaker 2: that we can't, you know, beat our veterans, We've got

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Speaker 2: thousands of homeless people, the economy sucks. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: need to be making strides on this. And it isn't

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Speaker 2: specifically the fact that it is Israel. For me, it's

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Speaker 2: just the fact that we are too bogged down talking

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Speaker 2: about foreign policy right now when we have such massive

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Speaker 2: domestic issues that we need to tackle, and those are

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Speaker 2: the things that move the needle for voters the most.

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Speaker 21: And if you could quickly, if you could quickly summarize,

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Speaker 21: why do you think it's Israel over other countries? Why

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Speaker 21: are they so focused?

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think we We can keep going,

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Speaker 1: we can keep going. Okay, Okay, Yeah, well guys, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna keep you for a couple of minutes just for

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Speaker 1: podcast and stream. After the break, we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: hit a hard break here at Real America's Voice and

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Speaker 1: Radio national radio audience.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I hope this has been illuminating. It's important to hear

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Speaker 1: from younger people directly, what they're thinking, what they're feeling.

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Speaker 1: This was the genius of what Charlie did and what

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Speaker 1: he brought to our political leaders in DC broughout their

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Speaker 1: POV and it's super important. We'll see you tomorrow stream.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep going