Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
Speaker 1: and everybody.
Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that.
Speaker 3: Right, Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 1: It's Lauren lo Roza and this is the latest with
Speaker 1: Laura le Roza. This is your DELI dig on all
Speaker 1: things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations
Speaker 1: that shake the room. Baby Now, yesterday in our episode,
Speaker 1: and I thought about this after we recorded. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, Taylor's back on the episode, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: we are like four million plus more people since Taylor has.
Speaker 3: Been on the podcast. I didn't even introduce who Taylor
Speaker 3: was to all of those people who may not know.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you listen to Brilliant Idiots or watch
Speaker 1: Brilliant Idiots with Charlemagne Andrew Scharltz, then you know Taylor.
Speaker 3: You know Taylor Gain.
Speaker 1: Taylor Made It or Breakfast Club also because she's one
Speaker 1: of the producers at the Breakfast Club. She does all
Speaker 1: of our imaging, which is like all of the like
Speaker 1: intros to the segments and all that like good music
Speaker 1: that you hear before you know the segments happened. But
Speaker 1: for those of you guys who do not know. I
Speaker 1: want to introduce the legend of Icon and my sister girl,
Speaker 1: uh Taylor.
Speaker 3: Taylor made it.
Speaker 1: She's been actually the person that was producing and editing
Speaker 1: a podcast from day one. But Taylor had a baby,
Speaker 1: so she just came back from maternity leave.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, hey y'all.
Speaker 2: Yes, as my good girl Sis said, I am tilamated,
Speaker 2: and you know I have my whole business, Tilimated Productions.
Speaker 2: So if you want quality audio podcasts, come on let me.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I am so excited for Taylor to be
Speaker 1: back cause Taylor and I've loved all of the other
Speaker 1: editors and you know people that we've worked with, but
Speaker 1: Taylor particularly, like from day one, I've been learning how
Speaker 1: to podcast and even with like not rushing through and
Speaker 1: speaking fast and just different things. And she's always very
Speaker 1: very honest with me about where things can be better.
Speaker 1: And she's worked around so many great podcasts that have
Speaker 1: been you know, around for years. So I was like, Taylor,
Speaker 1: when you're coming back? And then she told me that
Speaker 1: she wouldn't mind coming to the studio because we would
Speaker 1: be sending her this audio anyway. So as we kick
Speaker 1: off and get started, y'all know, we check in behind
Speaker 1: the scenes of the grind, because that's just what we do,
Speaker 1: and that just means, how were you really feeling when
Speaker 1: you're moving, when you're grooving.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just it takes over and you don't really
Speaker 1: check in on how you feel, nor do you stop
Speaker 1: to ask your own self that I'm telling her how
Speaker 1: you feeling.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2: I feel like I was just thinking to myself, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I really feel I've been feeling an adult but now
Speaker 2: being a mom, Like I just went to go get
Speaker 2: my son's birth certificate and like it's just it's like
Speaker 2: why I did this, Like, yeah, like I've been a
Speaker 2: very productive mother today.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad to hear that you're feeling good.
Speaker 1: I know, like you know, after having a baby and
Speaker 1: getting back to work, there's so much like adjustment that
Speaker 1: you know, and you talked about this in our episode yesterday.
Speaker 3: Please check that out if you guys haven't heard it already.
Speaker 1: But just figuring out like what your new like schedule
Speaker 1: is and day to day that's a lot.
Speaker 2: I feel like I have to be invent myself because
Speaker 2: I'm I'm about to move into certain spaces. Still about audio,
Speaker 2: and production. But yeah, just just leveling up. Basically, I
Speaker 2: love a love made it productions. I come if you
Speaker 2: want my services, consultation, all that like it.
Speaker 3: Don't play with her.
Speaker 1: And even if I wasn't with black effects, which I mean,
Speaker 1: where else would I be?
Speaker 3: But before I actually had a podcast still with black effects.
Speaker 1: When I was just in Delaware, I was guest hosting
Speaker 1: a little bit on The Breakfast Club, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to do a podcast. I really just wanted
Speaker 1: to do a show in general. But I hit up
Speaker 1: Taylor and was like, hey, can you build an intro
Speaker 1: for me? And she, you know, was amazing, like turned
Speaker 1: it around. And I didn't even have the best audio
Speaker 1: then either, and she still made it like feel and
Speaker 1: sound so official. And I know a lot of my
Speaker 1: friends were hitting me up even then, like, yo, did
Speaker 1: your intro for you?
Speaker 3: So this is who? Okay this Italy? Yeah when you
Speaker 3: guess hosted too, that made you that one?
Speaker 1: So yeah, every yeah, every time you guys hear my
Speaker 1: segment intro on the Breakfast Club, it's Taylor. She does
Speaker 1: everything for the Breakfast Club with the intros and stuff.
Speaker 1: But people always ask me about that intro too, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I send them your Instagram and your website
Speaker 1: all the time. So tailor made of productions, he said, yes,
Speaker 1: Taelor maadea Productions dot com. Yeah, so now y'all have
Speaker 1: a proper introduction on Taylor.
Speaker 3: But checking in.
Speaker 1: I have been feeling like I was just saying earlier
Speaker 1: off camera. Today I started kind of like behind the
Speaker 1: eight ball because I woke up late.
Speaker 3: I was rushing into the show.
Speaker 1: So I told myself after the day ended, I got
Speaker 1: through the day, find at a great day the morning.
Speaker 1: We had a great show today, But I felt like
Speaker 1: I was like chasing the day all morning like, and
Speaker 1: I don't like feeling like that. I like to feel
Speaker 1: like I'm dominating the day and I'm pacing my day
Speaker 1: and this morning and today I just didn't feel that way.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was like running to keep up.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to share a text message that my mentor.
Speaker 1: I called it like my second mom. Her name is
Speaker 1: Lori Hayes.
Speaker 3: Be my cousin.
Speaker 1: Oh, yes to hers. Her name is Lori Hayes and
Speaker 1: she is I met her in high school. She was
Speaker 1: my one of my guidance counselors. Basically in high school
Speaker 1: and she saved my life. If it wasn't for her
Speaker 1: coming into my life, I don't think I would have
Speaker 1: finished high school like my mom needed. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think my mom just really needed an additional person outside
Speaker 1: of herself to help guide me through the things that
Speaker 1: I was facing. And it's like, you know, I'm entering
Speaker 1: high school or whatever, and she unknowingly came into my
Speaker 1: life and was that. So I always thank God for her.
Speaker 1: But she randomly texted me yesterday at eleven twenty am
Speaker 1: and she said, you were on my mind this morning.
Speaker 1: Just want you to know I love you and I'm
Speaker 1: praying for you. You are powerful beyond measure. Keep manifesting
Speaker 1: the glory that is within you. You were born for this.
Speaker 1: Remember to keep the main thing, the main thing, whatever
Speaker 1: that thing is for you. Don't forget to take care
Speaker 1: of my baby girl. And when I heard that, I'm like,
Speaker 1: because I've been like the feeling that I had today
Speaker 1: of like chasing to day, I've been feeling like that
Speaker 1: just about life in general over these last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks because things have just been NonStop. Yeah, she also
Speaker 1: texted me and this was random, but you know, like
Speaker 1: again that intuition that like moms and people who love
Speaker 1: you have. She also texted me and was like, don't
Speaker 1: be afraid to say no. Everything that is a go
Speaker 1: isn't good good Yeah, And I've been just you know
Speaker 1: on my like hustle bustle.
Speaker 2: That's do you feel now with the opportunity that you have,
Speaker 2: that you do feel like you have to.
Speaker 3: Say yeah? Can't say yeah no, Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I have to say yes to
Speaker 1: everything I did in the beginning, and I was so
Speaker 1: burnt out. I was like burnt out like this, like
Speaker 1: I was showing up to this podcast with like the
Speaker 1: energy of a of a freaking naol. Like it was
Speaker 1: bad by the time I got to the podcast every
Speaker 1: day and just my weekends, like I had nothing. I
Speaker 1: was so burnt out and it was messing up. She's
Speaker 1: talking about keeping the main thing, the main thing. I
Speaker 1: was like messing up really really bad with Breakfast Club
Speaker 1: because like I wasn't able to as much because I
Speaker 1: was so tired and exausted, barely sleeping, so I had
Speaker 1: to say no and learn and say no.
Speaker 3: But I do think in these.
Speaker 1: Last couple of weeks, I have said yes to things
Speaker 1: because I really wanted to do them or experience them,
Speaker 1: and some of which may have thrown off. Like I've
Speaker 1: gotten into this like schedule and it's like consistent, Like
Speaker 1: I have to do things a certain way, and I
Speaker 1: never realized it's about myself until all of the things started,
Speaker 1: and you know, the breakfast club because it's so early
Speaker 1: in the morning, and I have prepped that I do
Speaker 1: have to show. But I have to do things a
Speaker 1: certain way when it comes to prepairing my stories, like
Speaker 1: I need to actually, like in real time, watch as
Speaker 1: things unfold, you know, watch a ton of interviews, connect
Speaker 1: this interview to that one, and you know, all of
Speaker 1: these different things that if I miss one step, it
Speaker 1: can throw me off completely. And I've always been like that.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't like people watching interviews for me
Speaker 1: and just telling me what the you.
Speaker 3: Know, you're gonna catch something that's someone else to do
Speaker 3: one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And I've always been that way, where like I need
Speaker 1: to be fully like in it in order to like
Speaker 1: best maneuver in a situation or to recount things or whatever.
Speaker 1: So with me now, like I'm coming up out of
Speaker 1: those couple of bookings and I'm looking forward to like
Speaker 1: I've been looking forward to this week so much because
Speaker 1: I could just get back into that schedule. But the
Speaker 1: first few days of this week, I've just been like
Speaker 1: after work doing as much as i can, and it's
Speaker 1: knocking out because I've been catching up from all the yeses.
Speaker 3: Out and give our me right.
Speaker 1: So when she texted me that, I'm like, this is God.
Speaker 1: Like God always shows up. And you know, last time
Speaker 1: somebody told me that it was Charlomagne, like keep the
Speaker 1: main thing, the main thing, because I felt off my
Speaker 1: like pivot a little bit. So that was like that
Speaker 1: has been that text message has been sitting with me
Speaker 1: all day, and I literally just told myself today I'm
Speaker 1: going to like reset when I leave here, I'm going
Speaker 1: to go into some praise and worship.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna completely reset because whatever this.
Speaker 1: Feeling of like running and I'm chasing but I'm not
Speaker 1: catching up, That's how it feels.
Speaker 3: It feels like I'm running but I'm never catching up.
Speaker 1: I'm not even about to allow that energy to sit
Speaker 1: within my spirit for longer than these forty eight hours
Speaker 1: that I've been feeling it or twenty four hours that
Speaker 1: i've been feeling it.
Speaker 2: So I was gonna say too, make sure you also
Speaker 2: have a routine for your self care in a sense.
Speaker 1: I'm still developing that. I don't think you and I
Speaker 1: have that or not anything. I don't have that, but
Speaker 1: we'll figure that all out. Let's get into that.
Speaker 3: But so speaking.
Speaker 1: Of you know, just seeing things as they unfold, yesterday
Speaker 1: just in me minding my business, not really mind everybody
Speaker 1: else's business.
Speaker 3: On X I saw a clip that Netflix had posted
Speaker 3: with Michael B. Jordan. So he's going to be on
Speaker 3: David Letterman's My next guest needs no introduction, which is
Speaker 3: like it's like a sit down interview series. But Michael B.
Speaker 3: Jordan and him. I saw this and I'm like, what,
Speaker 3: MICHAELA be Jordan? Ready for kids? Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4: But but I forge start off with like plants and dogs.
Speaker 5: I see if I can.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: If I can take care of a plant, I should
Speaker 5: be able to get dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I have a shot.
Speaker 2: You will love it and I'll be wondering what took
Speaker 2: me so long?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, I mean that was just a short teaser clip
Speaker 1: and that's the way that they roll it out. So
Speaker 1: the interview will actually be live in about a week.
Speaker 1: It'll be live on December sixteenth, and they shot this
Speaker 1: in London.
Speaker 3: Michael B. Jordan is in London.
Speaker 1: He's been there for a few months actually, he's actually
Speaker 1: been there since like March filming the Thomas Crown affair.
Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Jordan's thirty years old. I looked it
Speaker 1: up when you asked, he's thirty eight years old. So
Speaker 1: I mean he's at that point where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know I'm thirty to dang, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: I'm thirty three.
Speaker 3: I'm thirty four.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty four years old, and I don't want kids
Speaker 1: like today or tomorrow. But I'm definitely having conversations about
Speaker 1: what my life looks looks like when I have kids
Speaker 1: a lot differently than I was two to three years ago,
Speaker 1: Like it's more real now because it's like, okay, age wise,
Speaker 1: you're getting there, but also too, I just think I'm
Speaker 1: at a point in my life where the things that
Speaker 1: I'm doing eventually, I'm doing them because I want to
Speaker 1: be able to have children and build a family that
Speaker 1: I can enjoy it with. And he's amassed a great
Speaker 1: success like at thirty eight. He is one of the
Speaker 1: most sought after actors. Like not just people love to
Speaker 1: talk about Michael B. Jordan like he's like the black actor,
Speaker 1: like the young black actor that everyone goes to. And
Speaker 1: I know, now, damn some Idris also, you know, people
Speaker 1: throw him in there when they have that conversation. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but even outside of just a black actor. As an actor,
Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan literally is like he's one of the
Speaker 1: Like he is the name, he's.
Speaker 3: One of the names.
Speaker 1: So he has done enough now where I'm sure he's
Speaker 1: looking around and he's like, Okay, who I'm gonna share
Speaker 1: this with.
Speaker 3: He's probably been like that. I think he's a relationship
Speaker 3: type of guy. It seems like it.
Speaker 1: I mean, his dating history is pretty you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's had some good picks. One of the last people
Speaker 1: that we knew him to be dating was Lori Harvey,
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey's daughter. They were dating from twenty twenty to
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and they broke up and people were
Speaker 1: having all these conversations about why they broke up.
Speaker 3: We really don't know the.
Speaker 2: Real and he said the rumors where that he wanted
Speaker 2: that was yeah, like that whatever the rumors were that
Speaker 2: he was ready for a certain next step when it
Speaker 2: comes to all the things he's talking about right now,
Speaker 2: honestly with marriage and children, and that that's not where
Speaker 2: she was at, but that was never confirmed.
Speaker 3: But now twenty.
Speaker 1: Twenty five in March, he was spotted out with Taylor Russell,
Speaker 1: who is one of his co stars, and which is
Speaker 1: why he's in London, or was in London at least
Speaker 1: when they shot this. I don't know where he is
Speaker 1: this very day, but it's a reboot of Thomas Crown affair.
Speaker 1: People think that they're dating, and neither of the two
Speaker 1: have shot down the roomor nor have they confirmed it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know where his dating life is now,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure we'll find out more on you know,
Speaker 1: this conversation, Yeah, with David Letterman, but I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at him for saying he's starting with plants and dogs.
Speaker 3: Okay. I have seen some people be like, good luck
Speaker 3: with that, Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan, like if we taking it to the streets and
Speaker 1: the tweets, I'm gonna read some of the comments that
Speaker 1: I saw, But I mean, Taylor, you just recently had
Speaker 1: a baby and you were a dog mom.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was before you had a baby, and not
Speaker 3: compare your baby to a dog.
Speaker 2: Okay, well let me be very clear, eyes stand on this.
Speaker 2: My dog will always be my son. And but honestly,
Speaker 2: when it comes to even like for you for your
Speaker 2: instance of like wanting to start a family and stuff, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Do feel like.
Speaker 2: Now having a baby, because I was always worried about that,
Speaker 2: like how's it gonna fall into this type of industry
Speaker 2: in the sense. Yeah, but I do think that at
Speaker 2: least for me, things fell together more than a part honestly,
Speaker 2: And like I don't think I gonna be ready for
Speaker 2: I don't think I think it's hard to plan for
Speaker 2: a kid. Yeah, when the kid is here, these are
Speaker 2: gonna come together.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it per se, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: it's something that I've never done obviously, but I'm not
Speaker 1: really worried about it. When I went through, like when
Speaker 1: I first started this carecaker journey, things were like really rough,
Speaker 1: like really really a rough, like like extremely rough, and
Speaker 1: I had to plan my whole life, my work, my
Speaker 1: whole everything, my day day to day around not just me,
Speaker 1: but like also my mom. And when I started to
Speaker 1: come kind of like up out of it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, I just had this like
Speaker 1: random thought, and I felt like it was like a
Speaker 1: conversation with God even though it was just a random thought.
Speaker 1: But I was like, I used to be so worried
Speaker 1: about becoming a mom because I've never done it. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I think I got this, Like I
Speaker 1: I handled the shit out of that situation, like figuring
Speaker 1: out life for me and my mom at that time.
Speaker 1: Can we like, yeah, it was just natural, Like it
Speaker 1: was just a natural and she's my mom. Of course
Speaker 1: she's not my child, but you know, my mom's like
Speaker 1: stage four cancer. And put my mom to a point
Speaker 1: where like she could even bathe herself in the beginning
Speaker 1: of me care for her normally feed herself. So I
Speaker 1: mean when I say like you're tending to someone, I
Speaker 1: mean like, and I'm waking up around the clock making
Speaker 1: sure that she has certain medicines and like we were
Speaker 1: barely sleeping for about the first like three months.
Speaker 3: When I got through that, I was like I could
Speaker 3: do this mom thing, yo, Like I don't have to
Speaker 3: figure it out.
Speaker 2: It's a little different, but it also helps to have
Speaker 2: a great partner too, though one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Oh that's all I speak on my life. That's all
Speaker 1: I speak on my life. I don't want to do
Speaker 1: it without a great partner.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 1: And I want everybody, you know, if you're listening to this,
Speaker 1: please at me. I'm Laura La Rosa l O r
Speaker 1: e N l O r O s A everywhere. Let
Speaker 1: me know how you guys feel. If you are watching this,
Speaker 1: take it to the streets. Any tweets get in the comments.
Speaker 1: People are killing Michael be Jordan for saying this because
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I mean, I feel like he
Speaker 1: was jokingly saying it, but I think there are some
Speaker 1: like onwus.
Speaker 3: Oh about the plants and dogs.
Speaker 1: I think it's just a thing of him saying he's
Speaker 1: learning how to be responsible for something other.
Speaker 3: So but people are like, bro, it's a baby. It's
Speaker 3: so different.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, because I had people were
Speaker 2: like saying that to me. Now having a dog and
Speaker 2: a child, Like, yes, having a baby is different in
Speaker 2: a sense, but like you just said, having a dog,
Speaker 2: because even when I had a dog, I had to
Speaker 2: make sure he's being fed though, like I'm going back
Speaker 2: home to make sure he's being fed at least twice
Speaker 2: a day and stuff, and he has to be walked like, no,
Speaker 2: you're not doing that to your child. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, like you just said, it's responsibility though, like
Speaker 2: you have you have to kind of get a routine in.
Speaker 3: I just love the fact that he thinks are hard
Speaker 3: to care about.
Speaker 1: I never once tried to be a plant mom because
Speaker 1: I just knew I didn't.
Speaker 3: Have it in me. Yeah, all of the watering of
Speaker 3: the plant, the positioning it, and the light the right
Speaker 3: way house has to be a certain temperature for certain plants,
Speaker 3: like y'all.
Speaker 1: Really that man alone, if he working on if he
Speaker 1: working with plants, a dog, a baby born, I.
Speaker 2: Don't even air exactly, but I don't think people whoever
Speaker 2: is mad at him and then like they're taking it
Speaker 2: to literal like he's people say everything, yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 1: I just think that in my opinion, I think if
Speaker 1: you look at Michael by Jordan, right, he's young, he's
Speaker 1: at the height of his career, super successful, obviously attractive,
Speaker 1: and he is being it seems intentional about wanting to
Speaker 1: create a family. You got men out here that are
Speaker 1: just having babies with any old body, people that they
Speaker 1: barely even want to speak to on a day to
Speaker 1: day and are you are.
Speaker 3: You talking to?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 3: Say it? Leangelo Wall? I mean if we want to
Speaker 3: go there.
Speaker 1: Like it's and I mean whether you're being made successful
Speaker 1: or not. I just think that you should be more
Speaker 1: intentional about even if you're not planning to have the kid.
Speaker 1: And it seems like he is making preparations and plans
Speaker 1: because he knows that he wants it.
Speaker 3: I admire that.
Speaker 1: But even if you're not in the space of like
Speaker 1: planning the kid, I think that should at least be
Speaker 1: some responsibility on who you laying down with, just in
Speaker 1: case it happened, like, just in case y'all got to
Speaker 1: become partners in a co parenting situation. Do you even
Speaker 1: like the person you laying down with? Because speaking of
Speaker 1: Leangelo Ball, right, we watched him have a baby with
Speaker 1: Miss Nikki Baby, who's you know, she's all love and
Speaker 1: hip hop influencer. Comes from a very well established, rich family.
Speaker 1: So she didn't need li Angela Ball for the money.
Speaker 1: She thought she had a partnership. They had a baby too,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it was a new baby when he left. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they had she had just had her new baby
Speaker 1: and he decided he didn't want to be there anymore.
Speaker 3: Now. Granted, even at.
Speaker 1: Things happen, you decide Okay, look, this is not where
Speaker 1: I want to be cool, But the way that he
Speaker 1: went about it over cord over Miss Nikki Baby, like
Speaker 1: not wanting to be in your kid's life because it
Speaker 1: didn't work out with you and your person.
Speaker 3: I don't really, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't feel that, and I know that him and
Speaker 1: Sneaky Baby we're not strangers, but it seems like I'm
Speaker 1: confused about where his intention is, even when it comes
Speaker 1: to just the women and just the kids. Like if
Speaker 1: you know you don't want to be with somebody and
Speaker 1: be with a partner, okay, I don't want to see
Speaker 1: I think people think that you have to stay with
Speaker 1: somebody just because that's just the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I don't want to ever be
Speaker 1: divorced and go through any of that. But if we
Speaker 1: are miserable and it's not working, I don't want my
Speaker 1: child to see me grow up, like I don't want
Speaker 1: them to see that, Like, but at least I want
Speaker 1: them to see their dad, like can you show also
Speaker 1: just as a dad?
Speaker 2: Like how do you not want to see a child though,
Speaker 2: Like I don't get that.
Speaker 1: I want to say, because I know a lot of
Speaker 1: times men try, and like I mean, I've been here
Speaker 1: in my own real life, and my mom and my
Speaker 1: dad were not together when I was growing up, and
Speaker 1: my dad always alludes to it being so much more
Speaker 1: to the story of why he chose not to be
Speaker 1: involved for like thirteen fourteen years. But the way that
Speaker 1: I feel, and I'm saying that to say, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We only know what we see online. We don't know
Speaker 1: the full in house dynamic between lie Angela Baal and
Speaker 1: Nikki Baby, right, So I don't know if he thought
Speaker 1: I'm better off on no contact whatever, but you're never
Speaker 1: better off no contact, Like I've literally told my dad that,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't matter what you were going through, especially
Speaker 1: because at a certain point I got to an age
Speaker 1: where you could contact me without my mom. You're never
Speaker 1: better off no contact, like as a parent, Like that's
Speaker 1: extremely crazy. And then so she had another baby, Miss
Speaker 1: Nicki Baby had another baby with Lianjoel Baal. He decided
Speaker 1: that they did he didn't want to be with her anymore.
Speaker 1: He moved on to another relationship again, it's not about
Speaker 1: him moving on to another relationship. If you feel like
Speaker 1: you need to do that, do your thing. But that
Speaker 1: was crazy, though, I mean, would you.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think my only take on it because I've also
Speaker 1: been in a household where two people were together and
Speaker 1: they should not have been. And I mean, I love
Speaker 1: my brother's dad, my stepdad to death, but my some
Speaker 1: of my memories of him and my mom are things
Speaker 1: I wish I never had to see in my life.
Speaker 1: And I was like nineteen years old and I'll never
Speaker 1: forget it. But they shouldn't have been together, but they
Speaker 1: were trying because my mom had my brother. So like,
Speaker 1: I kind of understand both sides of it, but I
Speaker 1: still think it's trash for you to do that without
Speaker 1: like like your kid didn't have to be here, like
Speaker 1: there should still have played on support or like something
Speaker 1: in place.
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's a sticky situation.
Speaker 1: Wait, lean Angel LaVall moved on and had another baby
Speaker 1: with another girl who that.
Speaker 3: He forced he was forced to marry her. Yeah, I mean, well,
Speaker 3: let's just play the clip.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go going through the emotions with her ass
Speaker 4: Like she's like, I'm gonna do this this. Then I'm like, whatever,
Speaker 4: all right, cool, whatever, nigga, cool, just getting whatever, a
Speaker 4: nigga just doing anything.
Speaker 3: She's like, we're gonna get married, We're gonna do How
Speaker 3: did you end up doing that? How did you end
Speaker 3: up in the courtroom though? Brother?
Speaker 4: Because like she off me there, nigga, I'm out there
Speaker 4: about a cry in the whip, like niggas just gonna
Speaker 4: jump to the I know, like you dumb ass nigga.
Speaker 4: She has like niggas, she ain't has shit to be honest,
Speaker 4: I don't like her ass like nigga to keep it
Speaker 4: the band, just like, how the hell did that happen?
Speaker 3: How that shit?
Speaker 4: Nigga? I don't know. I don't have that, not even
Speaker 4: that bron. I don't even know, nigga. She had you
Speaker 4: locked up, she was lying and shit, a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of bad shit nigga.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, it gets sticky all around. I
Speaker 1: guess we got here because I was trying to big
Speaker 1: up Michael B. Jordan for just wanting to be intentional,
Speaker 1: whether you're gonna be with the mom or not be
Speaker 1: with the mom, or women, if you're gonna be with
Speaker 1: the dad or not be with the dad. I think
Speaker 1: when we are as at certain big grown ages, we
Speaker 1: gotta understand that there are accountability and you lay down,
Speaker 1: you know what's about?
Speaker 3: Like hello, Like we know how to get there.
Speaker 1: We know one plus mo equals two at thirty eight,
Speaker 1: thirty five, twenty. You know how to make a kid.
Speaker 1: And if both of you guys that are doing that
Speaker 1: regardless of what happened. The baby didn't ask to be here, is.
Speaker 3: Like my whole point of everything. Nothing is guaranteed in
Speaker 3: this world but life and death.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think about that all the time as well,
Speaker 1: like you know, and honestly that's been one of my struggles, accepting, accepting.
Speaker 1: But because I watched my mom be a single mom
Speaker 1: for so long and just figure it out, I've always
Speaker 1: been so intentional about my career. I feel like I've
Speaker 1: been more intentional about my career than anything else in
Speaker 1: my life. Like I'm intentional about dating and like the
Speaker 1: person that I'm with now, but I wasn't really that
Speaker 1: for you know, after when I was single, I didn't
Speaker 1: that wasn't I wasn't doing anything, but that wasn't a
Speaker 1: focus because I was like, regardless of whatever, me and
Speaker 1: my kid gonna be straight. And I didn't realize until
Speaker 1: I got with a person who like, like even seeing
Speaker 1: my kid, like he'll be like, you mean like if
Speaker 1: we have kids, are our kids, And I'm like, dang,
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize how much I'm programmed to just
Speaker 1: be like like, well, if you got dip, go ahead,
Speaker 1: because I'm straight.
Speaker 3: We straight over here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But do you think it's a control factor too,
Speaker 2: that that's the only thing you can control.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one hundred, Like the only day, the only
Speaker 1: thing your promise in life is life and death. Like
Speaker 1: the little bit of like career progression that you have,
Speaker 1: you can't really control that. You try to, you try
Speaker 1: to do, you know everything you can, but like you
Speaker 1: can't control certain things, like you can't control a person
Speaker 1: their feelings, their actions, like whatsoever. And that vulnerability is scared,
Speaker 1: especially as a woman, like I said, who I've always
Speaker 1: been like, I'm gonna make sure I'm super independent so
Speaker 1: that just in case in my vulnerable is moment I'm disappointed,
Speaker 1: I'm good And that's a sad way to have to think.
Speaker 1: But I ain't really seen much of anything else, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I've always been that way.
Speaker 1: And it actually that texts me to our next conversation.
Speaker 1: I know we talked about GZ on yesterday's episode of
Speaker 1: the podcast, but there was one part that I think
Speaker 1: would really fit right now in this conversation as we
Speaker 1: in the episode. So, Jez was on Next Chapter with
Speaker 1: Bishop TD Jakes and they talk about everything from.
Speaker 3: Life, love, career, health struggles, just a lot.
Speaker 1: When they got into the conversation around Jes's divorce from
Speaker 1: Genie MII. One thing that Jezi said that struck me.
Speaker 1: Jez says that he doesn't want to be traditionally married.
Speaker 1: He wants a life partner.
Speaker 3: Let's listen, what would you do differently if the choice
Speaker 3: comes up again?
Speaker 5: If I ever did it differently, I think that even
Speaker 5: in the dating stages, like even like the day, like
Speaker 5: we could be friends, but even in the dating stages,
Speaker 5: I would want to do like some pre marital like
Speaker 5: counselor absolutely. But you know what I'm saying is to
Speaker 5: have somebody self kind of. But I will say this,
Speaker 5: my heart of my spirit tells me, like now the
Speaker 5: space I'm in, I just see life partner. If two
Speaker 5: human beings can come together and come to some type
Speaker 5: of understanding and build this bond that doesn't need a
Speaker 5: piece of paper to validate it and say, hey, look
Speaker 5: we're going to do life together. We're gonna make this work.
Speaker 5: But I also want you to be okay, if this
Speaker 5: doesn't work, what does that look like for you? Let's
Speaker 5: talk about that. Let's get that together. Okay, you're good
Speaker 5: with that. I'm good with that. We signed that, you sign,
Speaker 5: we do whatever, we get the ring, we do all that.
Speaker 5: What I never want to go through again. I don't
Speaker 5: want that from anybody, because I know a lot of
Speaker 5: brothers just been going through the court cases. Is seeing
Speaker 5: these people take your money and send their kids to
Speaker 5: college with your money because you're fight them because it
Speaker 5: becomes adversarial. Well, let's just decide what it's going to
Speaker 5: be and if you're good with that, if I'm good
Speaker 5: with that, if it doesn't work, what you wanted to work,
Speaker 5: but at least we got to understand and that we
Speaker 5: can part ways and we can still be okay.
Speaker 1: It sounds to me like he's a little traumatized from
Speaker 1: all the money he had to spend, because I know,
Speaker 1: so Okay, when Jez and Genie my divorce, when their
Speaker 1: divorce was settled and their divorce was finalized in June
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four. So, following their divorce being finalized,
Speaker 1: Genie Mai went back to court and she said that
Speaker 1: Gzi owed her money for several different things that were
Speaker 1: okayed in their divorce settlement.
Speaker 3: Some of the things included.
Speaker 1: A five hundred thousand dollars payment to like an account
Speaker 1: that would like grow interests for their daughter. She was
Speaker 1: asking for like over ninety thousand dollars for a reimbursement
Speaker 1: for like rent, and then she was you know, talking
Speaker 1: about like some cars that ownership or something like that
Speaker 1: was supposed to be transferred for, and there was a
Speaker 1: hole back and forth about it. I know GZ at
Speaker 1: one point was saying that like there was a lot
Speaker 1: of frivolous claims that were coming her way that they
Speaker 1: were having to go back to court for and he
Speaker 1: wanted her to.
Speaker 3: Pay the lawyer feedes for that.
Speaker 1: So it seems like that whole part of it, like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we couldn't agree on things that we had already agreed on.
Speaker 1: There was still a lot to be ironed out because
Speaker 1: as if you're separating and you're dividing things, regardless of
Speaker 1: how long they had been together, they begin building the
Speaker 1: life together.
Speaker 3: That kind of dramatized him a bit.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Genie Maid said that their divorce called for Gizi to
Speaker 1: pay for her daycare calls, the baby's daycare calls, school
Speaker 1: tuition for the child, deposit at least five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars in an interest bearing account for their daughter, transfer
Speaker 1: the title to cars, and cover four months.
Speaker 3: Of her rent.
Speaker 1: The thing is, Genie claimed that Gizi failed to follow
Speaker 1: through on these things, and she says he's ghosting her
Speaker 1: and hanging her out to dry now in the docks.
Speaker 1: Genie claims that Gizi already owed her four thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for tuition and child care calls, and she says that
Speaker 1: she hasn't got access to the five one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollar account he was supposed to set up for their
Speaker 1: daughter like that, that five hundred thousand dollars, like that
Speaker 1: stuff was ironed out in there, whatever their agreement was
Speaker 1: going into the marriage and saying in case we split, right,
Speaker 1: but she was going back and forth to court and
Speaker 1: saying that it wasn't happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't happening.
Speaker 1: Know, a lot of the claims like Gez had fought
Speaker 1: back against and we're saying that certain things weren't true,
Speaker 1: or it seems like their communication and their timelines just
Speaker 1: weren't there. Because even when she had brought up the
Speaker 1: fact that like he had like guns in his home
Speaker 1: or whatever to and and he was like she was
Speaker 1: claiming that he was like careless with him, and his
Speaker 1: side was claiming like, yo, like he's geezy, he has
Speaker 1: and does things to protect himself, but everything is legal,
Speaker 1: their kid is good when the baby's over the house
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. And then there was like
Speaker 1: a timeline, not timeline, but like basically almost like a
Speaker 1: stock sheet that was supposed to be given to Genie
Speaker 1: Mai about like here's everything that he has in his
Speaker 1: home self protection wise, here's where everything will be stored,
Speaker 1: especially when your daughter is there. And his side has
Speaker 1: some issues with providing that because he was accusing her
Speaker 1: leaking things to media.
Speaker 3: The communication just seems all over the place.
Speaker 1: I just wonder what happened, Like what made them I
Speaker 1: don't nothing is guaranteed in this life, but life or
Speaker 1: dad tailor I'm trying. That sounds so morbid, but like
Speaker 1: that's just how it is you look up if you
Speaker 1: find a person who makes you want to grow through.
Speaker 3: Whatever has exactly you know what I mean. And that's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like, regardless if it's of Michael be Jordan's type,
Speaker 1: who is like I'm practicing right now because I'm intentional.
Speaker 3: I want my kids.
Speaker 1: It's le Angelo Ball who is going through like whatever
Speaker 1: it is he's going through and figuring it out.
Speaker 3: And god, you know, now he got.
Speaker 1: His other baby with the whole other girl who she's
Speaker 1: claiming that her baby hasn't seen her kid at all yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, her baby hasn't seen Leangelo Ball at all yet.
Speaker 1: And then you have you know, Jezu, who's been through
Speaker 1: these things and who is now a lot more accountable
Speaker 1: and understands more of what he wants.
Speaker 3: But it might not be traditional. It's like you got
Speaker 3: to really figure out, like where do you want to
Speaker 3: be in all of this? I don't know. I just
Speaker 3: hope all these people figure it out.
Speaker 1: I hope Michael be Jordan and his plants are well
Speaker 1: and doing well and very watered and you know, all
Speaker 1: of the things. So yes, this has been another episode
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Speaker 1: Laurena Rose, and I tell y'all every single episode my Lowriders,
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Speaker 3: Be here with anybody or anywhere with anybody talking about
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Speaker 1: But every episode, you guys choose, y'all got intentional about me.
Speaker 1: I know that's right, y'all choose to be right here
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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us again. So now y'all know
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Speaker 3: audio side.
Speaker 1: Seaqua and Patrick Mrie on the editing of the video,
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