1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Colleen Wit and we're on another episode of 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Eating Will Broke. I have the lovely April Jones here, 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: and what are you going to have us eating today 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: for your broke dish? That's so hilarious broke dish? Well, um, 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: growing up, my mother is Asian and so I'm half 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: black and Asian, and um, one of the struggle meals 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: that we used to eat, which is very simple with 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: seaweed and white rice. But it's so good and it 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: is so fulfilling, and it looks extremely affordable. It's cheap, 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: the struggle meals. So I'm going to show you how 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: to kind of do it. And what do you think 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: this costs on average? Because I went to the store 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: and I think this was the cheapest dish I think 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: we've ever brought on this. So these are the little 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: packs of seaweed, and I think sometimes they go for 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: what like nine you know it said said something, and 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: then rice and then you get so much rice in 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: the bag, which is like what no more than three 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: dollars four dollars depending on where you are a location, 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: l A is expensive, okay, but if you're from Chicago, 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, the South, you can get some rice for 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: a dollar two dollars, but now they have like different 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: flavored rice, like you can get a rice and beans 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: or I'm sure you didn't do that. I'm just playing 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: white rice. That's it. Ok Asians do steamed white rice. Okay, 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm cooking right now. And actually it's 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: going to be almost done. Yes. Uh so for everyone 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: listening and watching, she's been cooking since she got here, 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: so we wouldn't spend all day waiting to eat some 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: seaweed and rice. Yes, So now we're on our last 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: little moments of it getting kind of moist because we 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: like that sticky white rice. And then you'll give it 33 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: a taste it, we'll roll it up, we'll do it together. 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm super excited about this. So when was the last 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: time you ate this? Last night? So now you get 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,639 Speaker 1: to eat it. I'm sure it's not from being broke, 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: but because this is just like a comfort meal at 38 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: this point or yeah, I mean honestly, growing up, I 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: never knew that this was considered sushi, you know. Um, 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: it was just kind of like what we did and 41 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: like being in l A. I hated sushi when I 42 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: first moved out here, and then I recognize, Oh my god, 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: this is seaweed paper with rice, except it has other 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: things on top and all this, so it's like, okay, 45 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: so I love sushi, but this is something to me. 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: It's just yes, like you said, it's a comfort food. 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: It's a food for me that it's pretty tasty, like 48 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: it really is because the seaweed is like sometimes you 49 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: can get them free made where it's salted and when 50 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: you put the rice, it's just it's just a perfect combo. 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: Now does it ever come moist or is it always crispy? 52 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: Like this always crispy unless you put water on it, 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: or unless it gets wet with rice. So when they 54 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: make actual sushi they use this. Yes, I was funny 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: because for all you guys that don't know, but I 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: actually pick up the ingredients. And when I do pick 57 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: up the ingredients, um, you know, it's usually fairly easy. 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: But on this trip for the sea weed, I thought 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: I was looking for like a moist role like like, 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: so they have that girl shower like I don't know 61 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: if she wants this particular Nope, she comes. And honestly, 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: the ones that I did when I was growing up, 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: they were like the big sheet paper so it would 64 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: actually be like big, bigger roles, so it was more fulfilling. 65 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: This is like you have to take one sheet, put 66 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: it in there and roll it. I mean it's like 67 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: tiny bites. I'm so excited about it these times. It's 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: still good. So you originally from well you your army, 69 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: like you said, army brat So born in Germany and 70 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: then four years old, came to the States, lived in 71 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Chicago for a year on fort shared in base and 72 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: then moved to Cincinnati from when I was five until 73 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: I was eleven, and then came back to Chicago from 74 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: when I was eleven untils eighteen, did college and then 75 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: when did you migrate to l A two thousand twelve? 76 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: Two thousand twelve, and what was a migration for music entertainment? Um, 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: So I have a degree radiation science, but I'm also 78 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: a creative So I felt like, you know what, I'm 79 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: gonna do my two years work at one of the 80 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: best hospitals in Chicago. Give my mom that because she's 81 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: a strict Asian parent, like, no, you need to do school. 82 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: Fulfill that obligation. And I did that, and I was like, 83 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: you know what, My heart was just calling me to 84 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: really just chase the arts. So I've been here ever 85 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: since nice and then you got heavily into the entertainment scene. 86 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: Was that transition getting in? Was it because you're a 87 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: beautiful girl? Think you are stunning? I think way even 88 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: more stunning for everyone that's listening, ors way more stunning 89 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: even in person. You know. But was it hard to 90 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: get into entertainment and pursue your dreams because it's a 91 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: it's a male dominated industry. Yeah, and it's still hard 92 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: because I think that with beauty and sometimes when you 93 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: hear people who are like beautiful people and they say 94 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: it's a gift and the curse, it really is because 95 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: especially being a woman here, you know, men want to 96 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: take advantage or it's like I'll help you, and it's like, okay, 97 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: help me, thank you. You think there's like genuine people 98 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: that really want to help you, and then it's like, no, 99 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: they expected something from you. You know. So then you 100 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: feel like, for me, I'm not willing to sell my soul. 101 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm not willing to give parts of myself to people 102 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: for a small time moment like no, I'm gonna work 103 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: hard to get there. But you know, you sometimes feel 104 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: like there's many setbacks because of that, you know, and 105 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: you just for me, I've had to press svere through it. 106 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: But it's annoying when you feel like it is male 107 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: dominated and these men are just like they hound. Yeah. 108 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: I remember at one point when I was younger, I 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: would just first of all, I would always dress like 110 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: a tomboy, but I cursed like a sailor, and dudes 111 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: would be like, she's crazy. But it was like literally 112 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: the only way to get guys to semi take me serious, 113 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: because if I were even slightly girly, I'm sure it 114 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: would have been ten times worse for me. That's me now, 115 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: because like a sailor and pretty much on tomboy, I 116 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: came in here with was some sweatpants and angers. I 117 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: got a little sexy top on. But it's like that's 118 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: all you get. Yeah, exactly, no heels, no, none of that. 119 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm just fine. But so no, I agree. But I 120 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: call you the ultimate woman's champ because I feel like 121 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: when I see you on TV or or social media 122 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: clips or what have you, anytime I get exposure to 123 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: watching you, you're always keeping it real and you're not 124 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: just like I'm gonna be the pretty girl, that's silent, 125 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 1: like you're the woman's champ. You're saying what every woman 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: thinks and feels. And I think there's not enough credit 127 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: to the women champs, the Cardi B's, the all these 128 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: women that eat kind of our trend setters. You know. 129 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: Even being pregnant in the industry was like a huge milestone. 130 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: I remember when Lauren Hill had done it, and we 131 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: haven't really heard from her since. It was almost like, 132 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: you get pregnant, that's it, that's not Then you have 133 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: these women that are doing breaking these milestones, and I 134 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: feel like you walk that same rope of finally someone 135 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: has said something. You know, you use your platform for that. 136 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: And you know, from everything that I've known, you know, 137 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: I hear about you from mutual friends and stuff. You're 138 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: the ultimate hustler. And I love it because it's it's 139 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: like nice to see a beautiful person who can also 140 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: be a hustler and be street smart. You know. So, 141 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: what would you say has been the hardest hustle you've 142 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: had to maintain, especially in l a market. You don't 143 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: have family here, right, no family, Um, all my families 144 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: in Chicago, and mind you, my family is small because 145 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: most of my family is in Taiwan. Well, my mom 146 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: is the only person in the United States here um 147 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: from her side of the family. Um. So yeah, I'm 148 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: here by myself as a single mom. And I say 149 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: a single mom. Yes, Omari does his work, but you know, 150 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: when I have my children, I have my children, you 151 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's hard. It's difficult because 152 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't have the nanny's. I don't have you know, um, 153 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: the family to help me. My family has become my friends, 154 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: which are my village, and even hell, my friends have 155 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: kids too. Was like we're all struggling, you know. Um, 156 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: so I'd say the hardest part just really it's just 157 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: when becoming a mom and still trying to live this 158 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: non conventional life. It's we're not working nine to five 159 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: jobs here, you know, it's is l a. So it's 160 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: like whatever we can get, we're gonna take those those jobs, 161 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like whether it's for me 162 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: doing acting or if I get a role on the 163 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: show or like a reality show or whatever. It's just 164 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: not nothing's conventional. So um, just having to be a mom, 165 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: having to know where to place my time, not having 166 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: like I said, to help um and but knowing that 167 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: you have to scary having to provide for two children 168 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: by myself, and even when I'm tired, even when I 169 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: feel like I'm broke down. On some days, it's like, no, 170 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: you need to get up, you gotta go out here, 171 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: you gotta work so that you can provide for the kids. 172 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: And I think that it's just it's hard, it's mentally draining, 173 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: it's difficult. Um but then you look at your children 174 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: and then you realize why you're doing it for place? 175 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: So do you think at times it's harder for you 176 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: compared to say, uh, and I'm just then the fact 177 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: that say a Marion is, say a celebrity, who's who 178 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: from the world, I don't know is how much he 179 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: makes or or or what is his bank financial I 180 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: don't believe in counting other people's money, but from the 181 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: world's perspective, you know, do you think it's harder when 182 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: people are like, Okay, well you have a baby daddy 183 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: that's successful, who's famous. You know, so either they're either 184 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: taxing you more, do you get that, or do you 185 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: feel like it's harder for you at dating someone of 186 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: that stature? Then it would be of a single mom dating. 187 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: You know Johnny that works at wherever. Well, I don't 188 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: look at it that way because I don't receive the 189 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: financial help that way. You know, when he has the kids, 190 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: he takes care of the kids. When I have the 191 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: kids to take care of all of you guys doing 192 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: like yeah we got week golf Like it's not It's 193 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: not like I look at his life and like, oh 194 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: you're this Like no, like so even if I was 195 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: today a little Annie over here and we're splitting time, 196 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: it wouldn't make a difference because little Johnny is still 197 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: taking care of the kids and when I get them 198 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: and taking care of them. So just like when O 199 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: gets and he takes care of them, it doesn't make 200 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: a difference to me because I'm see you know what 201 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So for me, it's difficult because you're talking 202 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: about on and off weeks. Well, when I get my children, 203 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: that's two weeks out of the month that I'm shut down. 204 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna stay at home mother, And that's a struggle. 205 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well, how can I Now I gotta 206 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: hustle five times harder for the two weeks that I 207 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: actually have off. I mean that that yeah, that I 208 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: actually have off because he keeps them to try to 209 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: make the money that I can make so that I 210 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: can provide. And then are you at the place where 211 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: you make what I would call sleep money yet or 212 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: you still like hustle to hustle to hustle. Um, I 213 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: can make sleep money, but then I'm also still at 214 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: the hustle like sleep money there that I've got and 215 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: where I'm like okay, like you know, and I'll call 216 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: these jobs like for example, like campaigns where I'm like, oh, 217 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: this was zee, I made this much cool. This will 218 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: hold me off, you know, But Um, I have a 219 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: hustle mentality every day every day for me, point my 220 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: peer is gonna be a damn hustle. It just is 221 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: gonna be that for me. Um And feeling like I'm 222 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: doing it again by myself. I got two kids to 223 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: provide for, and I got to try to provide for 224 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: myself like every day. Like I've just been that way 225 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: since I was a kid. Survival you know. It's always 226 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: been did you gotta survive? Yeah, exactly, And it just 227 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: I don't think that's ever going to go away. Even 228 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: if I am sleeping in my sleep, it's still gonna 229 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, I need to I gotta do more. 230 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: I want to do more, you know. Yeah. Yeah, So 231 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: before I get into the next question, I want to 232 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: eat something. Okay, so we show me where we're eating. 233 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: All right, so the rice looks definitely ready. Yeah, I 234 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: turned those this off while we were sitting here. Okay. 235 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: Oh wait, all right, so okay, him in your plate? Okay, perfect? Yeah, okay, 236 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna give you a little scoop of rice 237 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: and want to start small. Yeah, oh girl, this rice 238 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: is looking real boys, yes, and this is the soft 239 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: jasmine right switch is my favorite? Yes? Okay, so we 240 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: got the rice on the plates. So what would you 241 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: say is your was your craziest hustle ever that you 242 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: either schemed up and failed at or schemed up and 243 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: actually ended up being a super profitable. I mean, I 244 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: had little hustles like I don't care if it was 245 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: when I was growing up. You remember them, like you 246 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: remember when we could go to the store and it 247 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: was like you could create your own popsicles, and then 248 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: you had the sticks that you can actually put in there, 249 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: and then people would knock on your next your neighbor's 250 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: doors and be like I pays for a snow cone 251 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: or for like a popsicle. I've never done that. Girl. 252 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say when you could buy ten 253 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: packs of gum for a dollar. So it was actual, 254 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: like it almost looks like ice cartons, but instead they're 255 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: deeper and you can actually put the little brown stick 256 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: until you put the coolie. You make the cool aid, 257 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: you pour the cool aid in there, you put the stick, 258 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: you freeze them and then so that was one of 259 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: my hustles growing up. And then I'd be like, yeah, yeah, 260 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: I got the hot summer days, come knocking on my 261 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: grandma's door. I sell those for cents. I buy a 262 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: big bag of like blow pops and sell them joints 263 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: for like cents. Yeah you were, you were an entrepreneur 264 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: from the So I believe. I'm gonna try yes to 265 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: grab you some um. So I'm a firm believer. Like 266 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: I've met so many people that went to school for entrepreneurship, 267 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: and I always feel like that some people are either 268 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: just it's kind of like a born with or if 269 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: you had a parent that was an entrepreneur, you were 270 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: exposed to it like so early that it's engraved. You 271 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: look at things as profit and cost or what have you. 272 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: And that's what it sounds like with you and you 273 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: started so young, you're yeah, well I had to because 274 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: I didn't have a mom or dad around. So for me, 275 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: it was just always again the level of just you 276 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: have to survive and then being shown the example of 277 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: what I didn't want to become, which was seeing my 278 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: mom who wasn't at home mother struggling the way she 279 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: did with my father was incarcerated. So it was like 280 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: this is what I don't want. Yeah, like I don't 281 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: want that life. And my mom did a hell of 282 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: a fucking job. She really did. I mean for me, yeah, 283 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: she is a super woman. Um, but I saw the 284 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: struggle that you know she went through and it was like, yep, no, 285 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: don't want that. So you know, anyway to the rice, 286 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: Take the spoon take this boon. Take um like a 287 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: little well, I guess the spoonful of rice because it's 288 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: they're small. And then what we're going to do, it's 289 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: just you gotta use your hand. These like finger foods, Okay, 290 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: so they just roll it up it's so sticky and 291 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: the you just eat it. No, this is really these 292 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: are as salty as I would like them these, but 293 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: even still, like if you had Sessami oil, you can 294 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: put sessami oil on here, like just take a little 295 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: and rub it with your finger and then put salt 296 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: on and then just do the same thing. So it's 297 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: more like they're like almost like to me, like chips. 298 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I actually like the texture. I wish 299 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: you guys. I feel bad for the crew because they 300 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: only get to watch and smack eat it. Everybody is 301 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: so good. I am definitely gonna I feel like all 302 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: these dishes on this show are going to make me 303 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: a very big person because they're always good. Grow up already, 304 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: gain weight. I've been going to weight out during quarantine 305 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: a lot of thirty pounds from where April from What 306 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: have you lost this weight? Grow up? I'll show you pictures. 307 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: I was literally I was like one three and then 308 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: I went down to one two and then now now 309 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: it's because I've been eating just I can't help bad. Yeah, 310 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: well this is so good. I got to be careful 311 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: with this guy's because rice is the thing eating want 312 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: broken actually make it kind of game weight. I actually 313 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: never thought about just even using ced like you can 314 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: use this for so many alternatives, like it's just the 315 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: I love the texture of it. I'm never thought to 316 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: do this. And I remember seeing people when there was 317 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: like a craze where people were like snacking on seaweed 318 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: and instead of chips, and this is delicious. So what 319 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: do you think there? Do you think there's any misconceptions 320 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to you, like what is the biggest one? 321 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: You think? There's so many. I mean I can go 322 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: into saying, oh, you know when people saw me on 323 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: TV on the show, at first, they're like, oh, like 324 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: she was quiet and she didn't say anything and she 325 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: had no voice, and it was because, like I will 326 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: say again, that whole scenario being on TV was controlled. 327 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: But who I am. I'm light and I'm fun and 328 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: I like to live life. I mean you know, um, 329 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: and I speak my my mind like whatever I feel, 330 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. Anyone that knows me knows that I'm 331 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: that way. UM. So when people have seen me on 332 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: the internet and I've said certain things, it's like whoa are? 333 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: Because I'm like a liberated female who's okay with talking 334 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: about sex and body parts and all these things and motherhood. 335 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, ship, we can't have a woman who's 336 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: beautiful and speaking about these things. It's like, no, I'm 337 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: going to talk about them. But I think that speaks 338 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: to your realness. Like I've never been ashamed of anything. 339 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm done. You know, I've been through it, survived it, 340 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: and trust me, there are things that I probably should 341 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: be ashamed of, but I'm not. But I think that 342 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: the level of confidence it takes to you're genuinely real, 343 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: Like when I see your hey, you know I don't Yeah, yeah, 344 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: it has it's but I think the fact that you're 345 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: able to speak and uh speak into a camera and 346 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: not turn it on and turn it off says more 347 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: about you, you know, thank you. So I just think 348 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: that I think that, you know, when people see who 349 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: the father of my kids is or who I've dated, like, oh, 350 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: you think you know someone's life and you don't, and 351 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: whether if you feel like you do, the facts remain 352 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: that you don't have the facts. And so I always 353 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: tell people like, you know, if you could just mind 354 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: the business that pays you instead of worrying about what 355 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: someone else's life is, and maybe then you'll be at 356 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: a better place in position in your life. But I 357 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: feel like those are the misconceptions is like you think 358 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: you know me because you grew up with these people, 359 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: or like watching these people, or you watched my life, 360 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: and so she is this way, and it's like, but 361 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm really not. So then when people meet me, they're like, 362 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: oh ship, damn, she's so cool. And then I become 363 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: friends and it becomes like year on year and they're like, damn, 364 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: you're so consistent. Wow, all this was just a facade, 365 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: and it's like, that's why, you know, do you think 366 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: l A Because I'm from New York and I feel 367 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: like l A people definitely are like a little bit 368 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: more plastic. I hate to generalize out there, but do 369 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: you think your illness comes from the fact that you're 370 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: not l A l A homegirl? I won't say that 371 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: because I feel like I actually have been a blessed 372 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: to encounter some real l A folk. Um. You know, 373 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: I think that we sometimes it's a melting pot here 374 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: and everybody moves from other places, and it's like, Okay, 375 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: we think that they're from l A. And then it's 376 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: like we found out they're not, and then then you realize, okay, 377 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: but I've actually had the opportunity to meet real l 378 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: a people, I just feel like you either got it 379 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: or the funk you don't. You either real or you 380 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: just not. So can you ever? Can you? And would 381 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: you be open a shan like a time where you 382 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: felt like you weren't going to be able to survive 383 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: as either a single mom or pre pre being a 384 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: mom where you were like broken down and we're like, okay, 385 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make it. Yeah, I would say after 386 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: my breakup, which was two thousand and sixteen, I was 387 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: I just had my daughter. My daughter was two months 388 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: and at that point I was in very bad postpartum 389 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: and I knew something was wrong. Excuse me because I'm 390 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: very in tune with my body, but I just still 391 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: like mentally, I was like, what's happening. I'll wake up 392 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: every morning I would cry and be like, what is 393 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: going on here? And you didn't have a reason for 394 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: the crying because I don't fully understand Paul um No, 395 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: and I didn't understand it either. Um. It wasn't until 396 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: I talked to my midwife and I was like, yo, like, hey, um, 397 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm waking up and I'm just crying, like I just said, 398 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: on the edge of the bed and I'd just be 399 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: like gazing out and then I'll just be like like literally, 400 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: that's and then you'd be like, what is happening with 401 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: my what's something's going on? But if you don't know, um, 402 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: and thank god I have the support that I have. 403 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: If she's like okay, yeah, like I know what's happening 404 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: with you, and the fact that you know what's going 405 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: on with your body, you're telling yourself. So she's like, 406 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: this is step one. And so then obviously I had 407 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: to go see a therapist and you know all of that. 408 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: But that to me around that time, because I was 409 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: going experienced postpartum, I was experiencing a breakup. I didn't 410 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: feel like I had the support from my partner at 411 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: the time, which was really jacked up to me um 412 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: and having to you know, my job was at a 413 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: hole mom at that time because I had already had 414 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: my son and so baby still knew. So you're still 415 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: breastfeeding and everything. I'm breastfeting two babies at this point. 416 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: I never thought about that. So so and they're both 417 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: like in diapers and I'm like getting no sleep, and 418 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: he's just able to work and go do a thing. 419 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: I just felt very at that point neglected. I felt 420 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: like it was a lot that was happening. And when 421 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: we experienced that, that breakup, it was like, all right, 422 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: I went back into survival mode. I went back to 423 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: fouling applications to go back to work for what I 424 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: went to school for, which, um, I end up getting 425 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: a job at m OK. Like but all while I'm 426 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: going to postpartum, all while I just had a baby. 427 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: So but who's watching the babies while you're I had 428 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: to pay for four centers? Oh my gosh, that so 429 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: um yeah, and I'm working like it was crazy. But anyway, 430 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: So going through all of the emotions of the breakup, 431 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: going through the emotions of the postpartum, and then like 432 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: transition because I didn't want to live in a situation 433 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: with my partner anymore. I was like, you know, I'm 434 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: gonna move. It was so much that I felt like 435 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: just emotionally depleted. Not only was I physically depleted, looking 436 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: in the mirror every day and realizing like I don't 437 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: like the person that I'm seeing, Like physically this is 438 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: funked up. Were you losing a lot of weight? Some people, 439 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: some people when they get the press, they're like I 440 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: was flabby, I was soft. My breast I had the 441 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: bomb's breast prior to KAF they were gone, you know, 442 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: like tired, like literally my my skin was gray because 443 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: I just had no life. I was ending up in 444 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: and out of the hospital for sleep deprivation and dehydration. 445 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: I was depleted, depleted. So I feel like at that 446 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: point in my life and I never wished that upon 447 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: anybody or I would never want to experience that again 448 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: in my life. That was the hardest time for me, 449 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: the hardest, worst time. And to feel alone doing it, 450 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: that was the worst. What did your mom say when 451 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: all of this was going on? We obviously she was 452 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: angry and she was upset that I wasn't receiving the support, 453 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: and you know, she was like, you need to quit 454 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: that job and you need to just focus on you 455 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: and those kids. The MLK job. Yeah, and this is 456 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: what's paying your bills though, right, Well yeah, and I 457 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: was doing this but it pays really good. So this 458 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: is kind of like when I'm almost like five, sin 459 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: get ready of doing the job, and she's like seeing 460 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: me in and out the hospital and she was like, 461 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: quit the job because it got to a point where 462 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: I was going to work and I wasn't even remembering 463 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: how I got to work because I was not tired. 464 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: So she was like, at this point, quit the job. 465 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: You've saved up enough, and just like we'll help you. 466 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: You know, like and my mom has been there and 467 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: she did where you like working to not let the 468 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: ship sink or was the ship sinking and you were 469 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: just like, okay, I'm I'm trying to get the water 470 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 1: out there. Ball. I was working because I didn't want 471 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: to have to rely on the father my kids, Like 472 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: I didn't want to have to be like can you 473 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: give me money? Like we had agreed that I was 474 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: going to be an at home mom, but when it 475 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: got to the point we broke up, who wants to 476 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: go to them and be like can I have money? 477 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: It was like, hey, I need your help to get 478 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: back on my feet. At least help me do that, 479 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: because we both agreed that I was going to be 480 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: at home mom. But at this point growing and got 481 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: that job, I was working, and it was like for 482 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: me again back into survival because you don't want to 483 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: have to rely on nobody because you feel like, for me, 484 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't really trust a lot of people like that, 485 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: you know, I trust myself, so I know that at 486 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I gotta have my back. 487 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: Not only that, but now I'm responsible for two people, 488 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: so I'm not going back. I refused to go back 489 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, can I have money. It's like no, 490 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: you see that I'm struggling on the mother to your children, 491 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: and I feel like at that point, help me. Do 492 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: you think did he did he at least offer or 493 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: was it just like I will say that when the 494 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: situation initially happened, Um, yeah, he basically was like cool, 495 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 1: I'll help you, kind of like get your apartment kind 496 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: of thing. But after that, when I started working, I 497 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: was paying my bills. Yeah, that's a tough situation was 498 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: and it's also real life to a lot of people. 499 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of them. Everybody struggles. I love 500 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: this show because I think when we look at people, 501 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: like if you're sitting at home or you're wherever you are, 502 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: you could be in the bathroom by yourself going through 503 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: whatever it is you're facing. You have your pears, you 504 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: have you know, first of all, with social media, you're 505 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: constantly in aided with beautiful women, successful people people that 506 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: from what it looks like from the outside man, They 507 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: just it just happened overnight, you know, and then you know, 508 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: we get to sit down with someone of like you. 509 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, it looks great, but this 510 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: is the behind the scenes, and behind the scenes is 511 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: real and real, really relatable. It is. But I also 512 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: feel like more women need to start talking about it. 513 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: And it's like, at the end of the day, yes, 514 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: the father of my kids is who he is, but 515 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: at the same time, I also experienced real life my so, 516 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: so why should I not be able to speak about 517 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: these things? You know what I'm saying. And I feel 518 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: like a lot of women feel like, well I gotta 519 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: protect and all this. It's like, yeah, but your story 520 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: is your story too, you know. So I've gotten to 521 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: a place now where I speak about it more and 522 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: not to slander anybody because no one wants to do that, 523 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: but to just really speak truth and you know, ship 524 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: that was wasn't easy. But you say, lives by doing 525 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: that exactly, But I think my own life by doing it, 526 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: because me speaking about it is therapy and it's healing. 527 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Now when it's brought up, do you get emotional over 528 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,239 Speaker 1: it sometimes? Thinking back, Um, not as much as I 529 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: used to. I actually look at it now and I'm like, whoa, 530 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: my god, you are so real and you when I 531 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: didn't realize what was happening, you know what I mean? Like, 532 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: now I'm at a place where you have made it 533 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: the picture, you know, the bigger picture. I see it 534 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: now and I'm grateful for that, you know what I'm saying. 535 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, back then, when I would look on up 536 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: like how the hell do you just how do you 537 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: not help somebody? How do you love somebody? One minute? 538 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: And then you just don't care that that Like I 539 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: don't So then I feel like wow, like you know, 540 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: you start to as women, was this unconditional? Is this 541 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: based on condition? Like you start to look at life 542 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: in all these different ways and it's like damn, Like yeah, so, 543 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: I mean I have been emotional about it before, but 544 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: when you have no emotional connection anymore or ties to 545 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: a human being, you don't get fucked. Yeah, you're you're 546 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: liberated by it now. I've been there, gone through breakups, 547 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: invested in dude, been the fake front whatever, you know. 548 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: But I think as a woman, it's hard to especially 549 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 1: being on your own, it's hard to ever say Okay, 550 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let my guard down and just trust you 551 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: to have the ball like I have to have. Like 552 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: I know, there was a saying like where you have 553 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: to have your pocket. You know you have your husband, 554 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: but then you have your like secret money just in case. 555 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: Do you feel like when you get into relationships now 556 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: you're always thinking about like, Okay, how long is this 557 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna last? Or do you feel like there's still a 558 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: guard there? No. I feel like for me, I don't 559 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: walk into any new relationship holding onto a bad baggage 560 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: from a previous And I think that when people do that, 561 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: they're not ready to embark on a new journey. And 562 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: that's when I tell people, if you're not, if you 563 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: haven't let go of the things that you've dealt with before, 564 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: stop trying to hop into another relationship because it's unfair 565 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: to the person that you're dealing with. So I believe 566 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: in that. So for me, until I know that things 567 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: are deaded and done and I'm fully emotionally not invested anymore, 568 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm not moving on to the next thing. Um. But 569 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: I also feel like people you can't say this person 570 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: is gonna be this person. You gotta just trust that 571 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: people are gonna be who the funk they say they 572 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: are and sometimes they're not most of the time, but 573 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: it's okay. It's a learning lesson, it's a new experience, 574 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: and it's more efficiency. And that's how I look at life, 575 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: because you know, when you're a rare gym, you realize, 576 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: like I'm not the one missing out, yeah and you are. So, 577 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: so how what are your next steps? Like do you 578 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: see in your future? As far as where do you 579 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: see yourself in your platform? Like I feel like you 580 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: have this strong educational radiation by like whatever science like background, 581 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: So is that like a backup plan? And then where 582 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: where is your ultimate dreams headed? You know? Um, I'll 583 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: always have that degree. I'm grateful for my mom for that, 584 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: but I do have I feel my show, like a 585 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: couple of months ago it called After Hours and it's 586 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: a slumber party kind of talk show, late night talk show, 587 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that that goes somewhere. It's really it's awesome. 588 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: I can't go into too much detail, but I'm also 589 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: creating some other things, like um journals, and I have 590 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: this saying, which is life is to be lived because 591 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: I really live by that, like we have one life 592 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: to live. Fun what people think, Let's live it. And 593 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: so for me, everything that I do is in my 594 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: model for that. That's my mantra um. And I'm just 595 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: gonna create things that make me feel happy with that, 596 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: be a great mom, and I just live. I don't 597 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: even I don't necessarily. As I've gotten older, I'm like, 598 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: God got me, you know what I mean? Like, I 599 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: don't think about oh so am I should? I I 600 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: believe my blessings come by just being me. And sometimes 601 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: when you're not thinking or looking, opportunities present themselves. And 602 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I think I'm gonna be happy, healthy, 603 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: My kids are gonna be happy and healthy, and I'll 604 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: be good in the years to come. Now, when you 605 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: embark on these new endeavors, do you look at it 606 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: from the business perspective or just the creative perspective? I 607 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 1: guess both, yeah, or do you have you noticed like 608 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: I noticed? For me, I'll throw myself into a project creatively, 609 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: all fascinating, creative. But then I think the laws of 610 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: attraction somehow get like distribution, or someone will come along 611 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: and be like here is money, and you kind of 612 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: like saved by the Yeah, you have to look at 613 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: it from creative because that's why we do it, you know, 614 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: creative to do it because we love to do it. 615 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: But at the same time we understand that, like you know, 616 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: we have mouths to feed, ye, and we would hope 617 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: that this can help people while at the same time 618 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: making money from doing it. Who doesn't want to make 619 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: money doing what they love doing? Yeah, who doesn't. But 620 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: it's not to me about the money. People, It's never 621 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: been about the money. It's never been about the money. Yeah. 622 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, Well, when I was younger, I remember always saying, oh, 623 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: by the time I'm twenty four, I want to have 624 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: this much money and I want to make it. And 625 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: then like ten years into my second company, the first 626 00:30:54,840 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: one failed. Um I remember just not having any money, 627 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: could barely pay my rent, you know, living check to check. Uh. 628 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: And I remember at that point success was money. But 629 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: now I'm older and I'm like successes and money it's 630 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: just being able to pursue what you love or you 631 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: dream or whatever and inspire others while doing it. Of course, 632 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: success is just to me, like I said, living, and 633 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: I always tell people because people are like, yeah, I 634 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: have to reach this, and it's like yeah, but once 635 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: you reach that then you feel like it's not success, 636 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: but you just keep on trying to climb the ladder. 637 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: And it's like at some point people have to start 638 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: being more content with where they are and just be 639 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: more realistic about Okay. So for me, what I tell 640 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: myself all the time is at the end of the day, 641 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: in my life, all I want to experience, period point blank, 642 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: is peace and whatever brings me peace and comfort in 643 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: my job and my personal whatever is what I want. 644 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: And that's it. So you don't say happy. I was 645 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: thinking you were gonna say happiness. Pieces happiness, go on peace. 646 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: I want utter piece, leave me alone, don't bother me, 647 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: don't want to be right here, eat my seaweed my 648 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: broke struggle me. Oh yeah yeah. By the way, I 649 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: really appreciate this, but I swear like my best times 650 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: is hanging out with friends over a struggled dish or 651 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: laughing at I struggled this. How will you see like 652 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: del taco? Like day old. I'll talk about the trunk 653 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: of my car. Hey, it was like a dollar. Okay, 654 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: I was not about to let that dollar go away. 655 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: It's like you put it in in the frigerator. It's like 656 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: it's still was good when you. This meal was absolutely delicious. 657 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: I had such a great time you too. Thank you 658 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: for having me, Thank you for coming out. And I 659 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: know we were working around your schedule, and like you said, 660 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, I remember when we were trying to work 661 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: it out, you were working it out around your children, 662 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: and just the respect and that just coordinating it and 663 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: then having you come out. And I truly believe that 664 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: you are the women's champion and you need to keep 665 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: speaking up because you never know who's gonna hear it 666 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: on what day or right day or wrong day of 667 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: based on what they're going through. And and this dish also, 668 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: I liked it because me being also a mixed person, 669 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: I feel like as a mixed person, you do want. 670 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: I feel like in America mixed, if you're have a 671 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: little bit of black and you have black, you're considered black. 672 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: And I feel like two black people not all the 673 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: time you're accepted. So I always try to lean towards 674 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: like I'm black, I'm black, I'm black, because I don't 675 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: want everyone to be like she's a white girl, or 676 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: Youriish girl, whatever. But I love that this dish was 677 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: more Asian beamed, you know, versus you could have won 678 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: the other. And trust me, we went back and forth. 679 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: You had a couple of creative ones. I just didn't 680 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: want to smoke up the student yet I had some 681 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: fresh cries. That was my other struggle dish growing up. 682 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: By the way, in college is Kabye and a four 683 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: with potatoes. But that's another story. We'll do that another time. 684 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: But I love this dish and I enjoyed having Thank 685 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: you so much for coming out and again off camera 686 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: broke Yes, yes, yes, I'll picture you and I'm doing 687 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: my thing. Okay, Well, thank you so much for coming out, 688 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: thank you for having me yes, and thank you all 689 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: for listening and checking out another episode of Eating Will 690 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: Broke with April Jones, Piece Piece Out Guys. For more 691 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: Eating Wall Broke from I Heart Radio and The Black Effect, 692 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever 693 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.