Speaker 1: You're in the freedom hunt. Thanks for listening to the
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Speaker 1: buck Sexton dot com. You may have heard of Florida
Speaker 1: Man at some point. This may be a phrase that
Speaker 1: you've come across. It used to meet a guy in
Speaker 1: flip flops with a mullet who led cops on a
Speaker 1: high speed car chase with an alligator strapped at the
Speaker 1: roof of his oldsmobile. But now it's anyone fleeing the
Speaker 1: tyranny of poorly run blue states in search of freedom,
Speaker 1: gun rights and zero percent state income tax. Our country
Speaker 1: was set up so that states, as you know, would
Speaker 1: be laboratories of our democracy, that states would be able
Speaker 1: to try different policies, and people could move depending on
Speaker 1: what they wanted, what they liked, and how it was
Speaker 1: all going well. It's amazing to me that you have
Speaker 1: such a clear, such a clear winner here with the
Speaker 1: state of Florida, as well as some other red states
Speaker 1: that are doing quite well. A lot of Californians leaving
Speaker 1: for Idaho, for example. You've had a big surge of
Speaker 1: people to Montana, which is actually not that read as
Speaker 1: a state, but it is majority Republican and this is
Speaker 1: going on at a time when we've really been reliant
Speaker 1: on state governments in ways that we haven't seen in
Speaker 1: a very long time. Because of the COVID pandemic. The
Speaker 1: state's authority to take action on health matters has really
Speaker 1: made a big difference in our lives. We had been,
Speaker 1: especially conservatives, focused on the tyranny of the federal government
Speaker 1: for a very long time. But as we see, state
Speaker 1: governments can be either protectors of your rights and liberties
Speaker 1: or they can trample on them even more. And the
Speaker 1: states that have had the most control over day to
Speaker 1: day life during the pandemic, the ones that have taken
Speaker 1: the most extreme measures and that have favored thetist authoritarian
Speaker 1: point of view, are big losers in all of this.
Speaker 1: And Governor Rhonda santist down in Florida is a beacon.
Speaker 1: Dare I say the Sunshine State is a beacon of
Speaker 1: light for the rest of the country for what is possible,
Speaker 1: for what could have been in New York, in California,
Speaker 1: in Illinois, in many places, and he's running with it.
Speaker 1: People have been asking me what is the future of
Speaker 1: the GFP, and I keep saying, nobody knows, which I
Speaker 1: understand is an easy answer to a very complicated question.
Speaker 1: But we still have this impeachment trial of Donald Trump
Speaker 1: coming up, which will definitively one way or the other
Speaker 1: tell us whether he can run for office again. And
Speaker 1: even if he were to be barred from holding office
Speaker 1: in the future, which I don't think will happen, his
Speaker 1: children will likely run for office, one or several of them.
Speaker 1: So the Trump named, the Trump brand will continue on.
Speaker 1: But there are others that you are seeing now who
Speaker 1: I think are going to be increasingly looked to for
Speaker 1: leadership in the GOP, and Governor Rhonda Santis is at
Speaker 1: the top of that list right now. He hasn't been
Speaker 1: involved in all the election disputes and all that craziness
Speaker 1: that happened after November. He was busy running his state
Speaker 1: and running it quite well. And I've experienced some of this.
Speaker 1: I've made a couple of trips now down to Florida
Speaker 1: to see what it's like to be in a place
Speaker 1: where people are largely living their lives despite the pandemic.
Speaker 1: And now de Santis is going even a few steps
Speaker 1: further by saying that he's going to take actions that,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, should have been taken by Republicans when
Speaker 1: they had a majority in the House and the Senate
Speaker 1: and the Trump presidency, but they didn't. Big tech control
Speaker 1: its financial contributions to politicians, and just its overall influence
Speaker 1: on our entire system is hard to overstate. And the
Speaker 1: GOP has a lot of answers, a lot of answers
Speaker 1: that are required at this point as to why they
Speaker 1: didn't do more. Why didn't they take action when they
Speaker 1: could have. We heard a lot of talk about Section
Speaker 1: two thirty nothing was done. Well, DeSantis is doing something.
Speaker 1: He is pointing out. First of all, this is necessary
Speaker 1: for everybody to understand. Everyone across the country needs to
Speaker 1: know that big tech is now openly at war with
Speaker 1: conservative ideas and speech. They're not going to ban everybody,
Speaker 1: They're just going to ban selectively to chill the speech
Speaker 1: of other people. You don't have to kick everybody off.
Speaker 1: You just kick off a few prominent people here and
Speaker 1: there for their wrong think, and everyone else gets the
Speaker 1: message and they fall in line. Desantists spoke earlier this
Speaker 1: week about this. Here's what he said, Play thirteen. At
Speaker 1: the turn of the twenty first century, online tech now
Speaker 1: represented tools to liberate Americans from reliance on distrusted legacy
Speaker 1: media outlets. A social media proliferated over the past decade.
Speaker 1: Citizens could directly connect with large numbers of people and
Speaker 1: could cut out corporate media outlets entirely. Over the years, however,
Speaker 1: these platforms have changed from neutral platforms that provided Americans
Speaker 1: with the freedom to speak to enforcers of preferred narratives. Consequently,
Speaker 1: these platforms have played an increasingly decisive role in elections
Speaker 1: and have negatively impacted Americans who dissent from orthodoxy's favored
Speaker 1: by the big tech cartel. Not allowed to break from it,
Speaker 1: not allowed to say that you disagree with the dominant narrative,
Speaker 1: or else they punish you. And for people who think
Speaker 1: that this only effects and I believe this has been
Speaker 1: one of the challenges on the right because we're just
Speaker 1: we're less active on a lot of these platforms our
Speaker 1: people so to speak, I mean, Republican voters are far
Speaker 1: outnumbered by Democrats on platforms like Twitter and Instagram, although
Speaker 1: Instagram's catching up a bit. Facebook is where where you
Speaker 1: would still find a lot of conservatives. But as you know,
Speaker 1: Facebook is now as bad an offender as any of
Speaker 1: the others. But this affects you no matter what your
Speaker 1: business is. You could run a flowers shop and you
Speaker 1: say the wrong thing about COVID policy, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you're not able. You know, your your account
Speaker 1: is shut down. Well, if you need that account to
Speaker 1: promote what your what your store does, you could be
Speaker 1: put out of business pretty quickly. And if you say
Speaker 1: the wrong thing, you could also end up getting a
Speaker 1: pile on from social media. And they'll never stop that, right,
Speaker 1: they won't. They won't try to prevent people from having
Speaker 1: their lives ruined by the by the social media mop.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of consequences even for folks in
Speaker 1: their in their day to day from this, no matter
Speaker 1: who you are, no matter what you do for a living.
Speaker 1: And this it's deeply on American. We need to understand.
Speaker 1: That's the way we should speak about this. It is
Speaker 1: deeply un American for companies to suppress political speech when
Speaker 1: they exist and they created themselves, I mean they were built,
Speaker 1: They made they made promises around being free exchange of
Speaker 1: idea platforms, so they essentially lied to us. I mean
Speaker 1: this was all abait and switch. They said, oh no,
Speaker 1: as long as you don't do anything illegal, as long
Speaker 1: as you're not doing something that we could all agree
Speaker 1: as egregious death threats, putting illegal content online, things like that.
Speaker 1: As long as you're not doing that, we'll let you
Speaker 1: share your ideas. Not then they changed because the little
Speaker 1: woke children who run these companies now, because even though
Speaker 1: they're not necessarily the ones at the top of the
Speaker 1: org chart, they're so vehement in their ideas. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're so absolutely scornful of people at different points of
Speaker 1: view that they'll just torch anyone who gets in their way,
Speaker 1: including people in their own company who try to be
Speaker 1: a little bit more adult, people who try to be
Speaker 1: a little bit more fair minded about all of this.
Speaker 1: DeSantis telling everybody that cancelation can happen to anyone and
Speaker 1: this needs to stop. Play fourteen Hunter Biden's story was true, Okay,
Speaker 1: we now know was true, and the typical corporate media
Speaker 1: outlets they just chose to ignore it. Obviously they wanted
Speaker 1: to beat Trump, they had they had a view on
Speaker 1: the election. They didn't want to give it any air.
Speaker 1: So we rely on social media to go around that,
Speaker 1: not let corporate legacy media outlets control the discourse and
Speaker 1: let us speak so you had the New York Post
Speaker 1: to run it, and you couldn't get any tracks. Shit,
Speaker 1: you couldn't get any reach on it because Big Tech
Speaker 1: put their thumb on the scale. So that was true
Speaker 1: what they said at the time, Oh it was. It
Speaker 1: was it's a conspiracy or it's based on hacked information.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? You're trying to tell me if
Speaker 1: there was hacked information that could damage me, you guys
Speaker 1: wouldn't print it. Give me a break. You can whiz
Speaker 1: on my leg, but don't tell me it's raining. You
Speaker 1: guys would print it every single day if you could,
Speaker 1: and Big Tech would allow it to proliferate every single
Speaker 1: day twenty four seven. So it's not being done in
Speaker 1: a principled basis, and it's not there's there's threats on me,
Speaker 1: and it only gets taken down if law enforcement goes
Speaker 1: and tells tells them to do it. Otherwise it just
Speaker 1: stays up. They're not moderating any of that, So they
Speaker 1: haven't done a good job in it. The thumbs always
Speaker 1: on the scale and run one direction, and we just
Speaker 1: need to bring we need to bring some protection for folks.
Speaker 1: I really really worry when you have a business owner
Speaker 1: that may rely on some of these tools to do
Speaker 1: small business. If they engage in wrong think or they
Speaker 1: go to the wrong political event, then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they can act in concert and just take take
Speaker 1: you off. You need to have protection against that. And
Speaker 1: he's not just speaking about this. This isn't just a
Speaker 1: rhetorical thing. He's going to push for action and that
Speaker 1: at the state level in Florida to protect people states.
Speaker 1: You know, Facebook and these other companies they're operating in Florida,
Speaker 1: and so he wants the state legislature to start creating
Speaker 1: protections in that state for your data against political discrimination.
Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately, what we really have to do is
Speaker 1: wherever we can create categories or add a category of
Speaker 1: political discrimination to anti discrimination law. And I know that
Speaker 1: some people say no, but that's not. The libertarian view
Speaker 1: is that we should people private businesses should be able
Speaker 1: to do Yeah, but they can't and that's never going
Speaker 1: to change. So we can either create protections for more
Speaker 1: people so that we have actually some hope of being
Speaker 1: able to win this win this political and cultural fight
Speaker 1: over the long term of free speech, or we can
Speaker 1: just continue to suffer and get crushed. So Desantists is
Speaker 1: saying that they're going to start doing things in Florida.
Speaker 1: He wants the legislature, the state legislature to go along
Speaker 1: with this, to create protections for people from big tech.
Speaker 1: This is the beginning of what needs to happen. People
Speaker 1: ask me, how do we deal with this or what
Speaker 1: are the next steps we need to soothe them. There
Speaker 1: needs to be financial pain, or at least likely the
Speaker 1: likely prospect of financial pain that has to happen. There
Speaker 1: have to be consequences for the kinds of censorship, for
Speaker 1: the overreach that we're seeing, or else they'll keep just
Speaker 1: doing it. There was this idea, and I've been telling
Speaker 1: you this from the very beginning. Oh, don't worry. Once
Speaker 1: the election stuff is over, once Joe Biden's president, they're
Speaker 1: going to let people go back to normal. No, they're not.
Speaker 1: Why would they. They got away with it. They were
Speaker 1: able to exercise these companies in concert with the Democrats,
Speaker 1: they're able to team up and exercise power. Now there
Speaker 1: guy Joe Biden's in office. You think they're going to
Speaker 1: back off? Now? You think that they really view what
Speaker 1: they did as anything other than a huge win. No,
Speaker 1: that's why you've got to have Republicans in places where
Speaker 1: they do have power and control to wield it in
Speaker 1: defense of liberty. Passivity when liberty is under assault is
Speaker 1: not a virtue. And a lot of conservatives, i think,
Speaker 1: have adopted this position of well, just let the market speak,
Speaker 1: or well just let things play out and we'll see.
Speaker 1: Well we are seeing because that had been largely the approach,
Speaker 1: and it is a disaster and it hurts individuals. It
Speaker 1: hurts people, It ruins their livelihoods, it destroys their business models.
Speaker 1: I mean, they kicked Parlor off the Internet, and people
Speaker 1: were cheering this on in tech circles as if somehow
Speaker 1: this had achieved something. Meanwhile, Facebook was more of a
Speaker 1: place where there was conspiracy hatched about the Capitol Hill riot,
Speaker 1: but it didn't matter because they were still trying to
Speaker 1: just kick off Parlor because Parlor won't play by the
Speaker 1: actual rules, meaning whatever democrats want, those are the only
Speaker 1: real rules. The principle is the democrats have power and
Speaker 1: they will crush you if you don't do what they want.
Speaker 1: That's the only principle they buy by. Desantist knows this
Speaker 1: and he's had an off of it. Plate twelve or
Speaker 1: is This going to be a big fight in the
Speaker 1: legislative session. Hopefully we'll be able to get a lot
Speaker 1: of support. I think most folks do want protections for
Speaker 1: their privacy and their data. I think most folks want
Speaker 1: protections from being the platform. And it's not just being
Speaker 1: banned from Twitter or something. As we've seen, these companies
Speaker 1: can act, they can collude. They can deny you if
Speaker 1: you're a small business of payment processing, the ability to
Speaker 1: use email and text. So what you go to a
Speaker 1: rally that they don't like, or you engage in wrong
Speaker 1: think and all of a sudden, your flower business is
Speaker 1: decapitated for for a month because they take action. That
Speaker 1: is what is happening in this country. The left is
Speaker 1: a totalitarian political ideology in America right now. They don't
Speaker 1: care that you are suffering, they don't care that you
Speaker 1: don't have freedom. They advocate for more of this, They
Speaker 1: demand more of this. So we can either continue to lose,
Speaker 1: continue to be on our back, the back of our heels,
Speaker 1: and hope that somehow they just get tired of this
Speaker 1: and stop, or we can find ways to fight back.
Speaker 1: We can find ways to make these organizations and eventually,
Speaker 1: of course these Democrat politicians. But for now, it would
Speaker 1: be helpful just to make the companies that are doing
Speaker 1: the bidding of the far left in America make them
Speaker 1: stop because there's a consequence, there's a cost to what
Speaker 1: they're doing right now, you know, the only cost is
Speaker 1: they win, we lose. And conservatives say they're going to
Speaker 1: retreat from public life. That's not the answer. You're listening
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Speaker 1: get your podcasts. You are correct, you remember correctly. I
Speaker 1: do believe that this is constitutional. I think that the
Speaker 1: Constitution sets out exhaustively what times what power the Senate
Speaker 1: has to try and convict officials. It says that you
Speaker 1: can try and convict the President of the United States,
Speaker 1: not an ex president, not a private citizen. I think
Speaker 1: that there's no jurisdiction here, to use a legal term,
Speaker 1: The Senate just doesn't have the authority to try and
Speaker 1: convict a private citizen. The right remedy, the Constitution makes
Speaker 1: clear is criminal proceedings by in the criminal justice system.
Speaker 1: If you think you've got a private citizens committed a crime,
Speaker 1: that person, even if they are an ex president can
Speaker 1: be tried and so forth, but the Senate does not
Speaker 1: have the power to do that. Unconstitutional actions from the
Speaker 1: Democrats now that they're in the majority in the Senate
Speaker 1: not a surprise, or they have a day fact a
Speaker 1: majority as you know, fifty fifty with Kamala as the
Speaker 1: tying a tiebreaking vote. So there's a part of me
Speaker 1: that's happy that they'll be making I mean, there he
Speaker 1: head Senator Josh Holley. Party is glad they'll make this
Speaker 1: argument because it's the right one. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: they're correct and this is an abuse, but they also
Speaker 1: because they're being forced to go to this trial. I
Speaker 1: hope the people that are speaking in favor of Trump's
Speaker 1: position on this will explain how this is all just
Speaker 1: so disruptive, pointless, and vindictive. Now it's pointless if you're
Speaker 1: a rational person who wants what's best for the country.
Speaker 1: If you're a Democrat who's still furious about all the
Speaker 1: terrible things that happened with Trump, terrible things that happened
Speaker 1: for four years under Trump's presidency, then you view this
Speaker 1: as payback. It's also an attempt for the Senate Democrats
Speaker 1: and for the Democrat Party overall to enshrine a narrative
Speaker 1: of the insurrection, and the insurrection is going to be
Speaker 1: used to bludgeon Conservatives and Republicans for years and years,
Speaker 1: if not decades to come, if we allow the narrative
Speaker 1: to be seized in this way. Make no mistake about it.
Speaker 1: This is one of the reasons among many that I
Speaker 1: was so angry on the day of January sixth as
Speaker 1: soon as it happened, and I made no I you
Speaker 1: know how I feel if you listened to the show
Speaker 1: I was. I was honestly enraged because I realized on
Speaker 1: every level how counterproductive, how stupid, how damaging it is,
Speaker 1: and how much it hurts the cause of conservatism and
Speaker 1: hurts the cause of Trump and MAGA in America. First,
Speaker 1: Democrats are leveraging this. This is now their primary tool
Speaker 1: of ideological suppression, or their primary argument for it is
Speaker 1: what happened on January six and now they want to
Speaker 1: talk more about it and get into the Senate record
Speaker 1: that Trump was part of an insurrection, He tried to
Speaker 1: create a coup. We have to fight that on the merits,
Speaker 1: not just as a procedural matter. The Democrats are lying
Speaker 1: about this. This is the Fuck Sexton Show podcast. Follow
Speaker 1: Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. That's a question on impeachment.
Speaker 1: The impecient managers have now laid out their case. Trump's
Speaker 1: team is leaving open the door, it seems to arguing
Speaker 1: election fraud in the trial to repeating the false claims
Speaker 1: that somehow Trump won the election, those same false claims
Speaker 1: that fueled the riot. Is this administration concerned that the
Speaker 1: former president's defense could incite for further violence, Well, certainly,
Speaker 1: watching reactions in the country, watching the potential for violence
Speaker 1: is something that we will do closely from the White
Speaker 1: House across the country, no matter what prompts it. And
Speaker 1: that's something we will certainly keep an eye on. But
Speaker 1: you know, I think in this case, as you know,
Speaker 1: there have been dozens and dozens of court cases that
Speaker 1: have been debunked. The President of the United States is
Speaker 1: sitting in the Oval office, engaging and governing a country.
Speaker 1: And obviously we have moved forward even more than we
Speaker 1: were prior to the inauguration in proceeding in delivering on
Speaker 1: what the American people decided on in November. Not to
Speaker 1: be mean, Jen Saki is really the most eloquent communicator
Speaker 1: that they could find for this role. Really okay, you
Speaker 1: know it's the Democrats choice, but shocking that this is
Speaker 1: the best choice that they could make. But anyway, there
Speaker 1: must be things that we don't really know about this,
Speaker 1: or maybe we do. The Trump team arguing about election
Speaker 1: fraud would be a bad idea. I hope they don't
Speaker 1: do it. I know that there's been some shake up
Speaker 1: among the lawyers who were going to be defending the
Speaker 1: president at this impeachment trial. You remember the last impeachment trial,
Speaker 1: by the way, No you don't. I'm sure. I mean
Speaker 1: you remember it happened, right, But does anyone remember the arguments? Oh?
Speaker 1: MSNBC was they were just, oh my gosh, they were
Speaker 1: all a flutter with the amaz the speeches given by
Speaker 1: these brilliant legal theorists who are just going on and
Speaker 1: on and people like Adam Schiff about the Constitution and
Speaker 1: our republic and all this stuff. People don't give a
Speaker 1: crap about the Constitution or a republic. Please. They're authoritarians.
Speaker 1: They don't accept individual agency and human liberty. They want
Speaker 1: to be in control. They want to tell you what
Speaker 1: to do. You do this because I said so, or
Speaker 1: I'll send big scary people with guns to make you
Speaker 1: do it. That's really the Democrat mentality. And here we are.
Speaker 1: So I hope that the president's team doesn't argue about
Speaker 1: the election, because this is really not ultimately about election fraud.
Speaker 1: This is all about They're pushing all of this around
Speaker 1: the notion of Trump inciting an insurrection and whether there
Speaker 1: whether there was fraud or not, the insurrection aspect of
Speaker 1: it is the main line of attack, and that's going
Speaker 1: to be the main line of attack against all the
Speaker 1: rest of us. There's no way they're going to litigate
Speaker 1: in court the election. I'm just telling you this, And
Speaker 1: if you don't believe me or you're frustrated hearing this,
Speaker 1: circle back with me in a couple of weeks and
Speaker 1: see if I'm right. They're not going to be able
Speaker 1: to present anything in court that settles the issue one
Speaker 1: way or another about election fraud allegations, and it will
Speaker 1: only play into the Democrats hands because right now it's
Speaker 1: there were lies, the lies led to the insurrection and
Speaker 1: now they're still lying about it. If they were to
Speaker 1: present that, no, what needs to happen is they should
Speaker 1: argue that the unconstitutionality of this, which I think is
Speaker 1: clear and also the way that this is being exploited
Speaker 1: and exaggerated. And why are Democrats so set on bringing
Speaker 1: this prosecution in the Senate of the former president. It's
Speaker 1: because they're trying to get as much on the record
Speaker 1: as possible, trying to create as much noise as they
Speaker 1: can around the Republican the Trump insurrection. They just want
Speaker 1: this to be in big bold letters and all the
Speaker 1: newspapers and then all the history books. And anytime someone
Speaker 1: comes along and says, hey, I'm a conservative populist and
Speaker 1: i have a vision for the future, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to fight against these leftist authoritarians and I want to
Speaker 1: make America a free country again, anyone who says anything
Speaker 1: like that is going to be shouted down with, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's advocating for the insurrection. Wait what, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: They're intentionally painting with the broadest possible brush. They're smearing people.
Speaker 1: They're talking about MAGA terrorists. And I didn't even get
Speaker 1: into this. You had another former and former CIA guy
Speaker 1: writing and I don't even know where it was, writing
Speaker 1: in one of the big I think it was the
Speaker 1: Washington Post, about how we need to treat the Trump
Speaker 1: insurrection like the ghottest insurgency global insurgency of the early
Speaker 1: two thousands. So I want us all be very clearly,
Speaker 1: as I've been saying to you, they are comparing people
Speaker 1: running around inside the capital taking selfies with people who
Speaker 1: run drive planes full of civilians into buildings of civilians,
Speaker 1: killing thousands of people, that decapitate people on videos, who mutilate,
Speaker 1: murder and rape and pillage on levels that are truly,
Speaker 1: truly horrific beyond words. They're comparing those things and saying
Speaker 1: that they're the same. It's basically the same. Yeah, as
Speaker 1: as as Tucker calls him a Chewbacca man, the guy
Speaker 1: who's running around with the furry hat and everything inside
Speaker 1: the capitol just like Zoehie, I mean, same same level
Speaker 1: of risk, same level of danger. Is like is like
Speaker 1: bin laden with a different, you know, different head covering.
Speaker 1: That's really what these democrats this is insane. I mean,
Speaker 1: the people that are arguing this are shameful and disgusting,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they know Trump supporters and have friends
Speaker 1: and neighborsh voter for Trump. They'd never say this stuff
Speaker 1: to their faces because they're all such little cowards. One
Speaker 1: thing that is really a a common almost defining characteristic
Speaker 1: of the contemporary liberal America is a lot of their
Speaker 1: political beliefs are always that they're willing to share them
Speaker 1: to friendly audience. They're willing to say it when they've
Speaker 1: got a mob around them that agrees with them. But
Speaker 1: one on one, all of a sudden, they become very wimpy.
Speaker 1: They really don't actually want to have to defend these ideas,
Speaker 1: so they want to call everybody who supports Trump a
Speaker 1: maga terrorist, or imply at least that we're all maga terrorists.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that to your face. Though they
Speaker 1: are a bunch of there's a lot of cowardice. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of cowardice on the left, and I think
Speaker 1: it's a part of the political culture in a way
Speaker 1: that we can all see. You're aware of it, right,
Speaker 1: They don't they don't take up they don't take unpopular
Speaker 1: stands in order to defend people that they know are
Speaker 1: good and the right. No, they just they go along
Speaker 1: with the mob all the time. Now it's not everybody, obviously,
Speaker 1: but it's very very commonplace, and I think it's almost celebrated,
Speaker 1: and there's a particularly the the lib Beta mail is
Speaker 1: the standard. You know, all these guys who kind of
Speaker 1: remind you of Pajama Boy from the Obama era, Remember
Speaker 1: Pajama Boy during Obamacare. Remind you of Pajama Boy. And
Speaker 1: they will say these things about how they need to
Speaker 1: put down the insurrection and use the FBI and use
Speaker 1: the military against all these people. But they'll never actually
Speaker 1: walk up to your face on the street and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're an insurrectionist, not by themselves. Only if they've got
Speaker 1: a thousand of their buddies, all you know, chanting about
Speaker 1: blamb or anti far or whatever, then then they get tough.
Speaker 1: Annie McCarthy, as you know, as a guy I've had
Speaker 1: on the show many times. I've known Andy for many years.
Speaker 1: I like and he's a very smart guy. He is
Speaker 1: very upset with Trump. So there are people who are
Speaker 1: who are on our team, so to speak, and who
Speaker 1: are good faith, patriotic Americans who are really angry about
Speaker 1: what happened with Trump, and I can understand they're point
Speaker 1: of view. But here's what Andy's saying about the Trump
Speaker 1: impeachment and what he sees it as Play eleven. This
Speaker 1: really is not a legal determination, it's a political judgment.
Speaker 1: And whether or not the impeachment can properly go forward
Speaker 1: is a question constitutionally that is left exclusively to the Senate,
Speaker 1: which is a political body, and they've obviously voted to proceed. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think you can make very strong legal
Speaker 1: points on both sides. I'm more persuaded by the side
Speaker 1: that says that the impeachment power was always understood to
Speaker 1: apply to people who are out of office as well
Speaker 1: as in office. But it's a debatable point. I think
Speaker 1: it's beside the point. It's a legal it's a political determination.
Speaker 1: So Masayan ultimately comes down to whether or not the senators,
Speaker 1: you know, whether or not the Senators want to convict
Speaker 1: the president for insurrection. You know, even if we argue,
Speaker 1: even if the Trump Trump team argue that there is
Speaker 1: an unconstitutionality to this, probably not going to carry the argument.
Speaker 1: So that's why it's also important to dig in on
Speaker 1: the claim that Trump was inciting insurrection is not true.
Speaker 1: It is a lie, It is a smear, and to
Speaker 1: call what happened on January sixth and insurrection in and
Speaker 1: of itself is dishonest. So that's how we have to
Speaker 1: fight against this narrative. We'll see who Trump has making
Speaker 1: the case in about a week or so. This is
Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message
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Speaker 1: He may read it on the show. These three different
Speaker 1: executive orders about I want to make it clear. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of talk with good reason about the number
Speaker 1: of executive orders that I've signed. I'm not making new law.
Speaker 1: I'm eliminating bad policy. What I'm doing is taking on
Speaker 1: the issues that the president, the last president Nined States,
Speaker 1: issued executive orders I thought were very counterproductive to our security,
Speaker 1: counterproductive to who we are as a country, particularly in
Speaker 1: U in the ear of immigration. This about how America
Speaker 1: is safe or strong, or more prosperous when we have
Speaker 1: a fair, orderly and humane legal immigration system. I'm not American.
Speaker 1: I'm not making new law. I'm just getting rid of
Speaker 1: bad policy by basically making laws. Notice the way that
Speaker 1: he tries to tell you what you see, what you observe.
Speaker 1: That does That's not real, that doesn't count. Don't don't
Speaker 1: pay attention to your lying eyes and ears. Listen, listen
Speaker 1: to the Joe Biden talking point here. Now what he's
Speaker 1: doing is in fact creating laws, or he's taking actions
Speaker 1: that have the force of law, and he's doing it
Speaker 1: because he doesn't like what was done before, or he
Speaker 1: wants things to change and how they are now. But
Speaker 1: he's basically writing lass that's what these executive orders are.
Speaker 1: And the the sleight of hand here where it's all
Speaker 1: of a sudden just getting rid of the bad policies
Speaker 1: of the past. Well, that's just a judgment call. That's
Speaker 1: not a way of explaining how what Biden's doing here
Speaker 1: isn't in some way overreach. Isn't the current president of
Speaker 1: the United States acting like he well, doing exactly what
Speaker 1: he said he wasn't going to do back in October.
Speaker 1: You remember that we actually probably could find that clip
Speaker 1: for you would say you can't you can't rule by
Speaker 1: executive order. They had this whole Biden presidency. Remember I've
Speaker 1: said this to you so many times. Republicans run and
Speaker 1: tell you what they what they want to do, and
Speaker 1: then they try to keep their promises. But they have
Speaker 1: some people who fall away or there's you know, intra
Speaker 1: party strife or whatever. Democrat for president run pretending to
Speaker 1: be something entirely different, and then they get an office
Speaker 1: and as well, we're not doing that anymore, now that
Speaker 1: we've fooled enough people in Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania into thinking that,
Speaker 1: you know, we care about unions really, or that we
Speaker 1: care about the rule of law or whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: Once we've done that head fake, then we get to
Speaker 1: really go to work then push the left wing policies
Speaker 1: that we claimed during the election we had no interest in. Oh,
Speaker 1: we would never do that. Good old blue collar Joe.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna not gonna sell you out for foreign labor.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna do that. No union, guys, you can
Speaker 1: trust blue collar Joe. Now you can't, Guys. The whole
Speaker 1: thing is a fraud. Joe Biden's been whatever whatever he
Speaker 1: has had to be when he had to be it
Speaker 1: to get the most votes he could where he needed to.
Speaker 1: That is Joe Biden's entire political career. No one even
Speaker 1: really knows what this guy believes stands for. If I
Speaker 1: ask you what issue was Joe Biden most passionate about
Speaker 1: if you knew his record, you might say making sure
Speaker 1: that credit card companies can charge usurious rates and that
Speaker 1: it's almost impossible to discharge credit card debt in bankruptcy. Right,
Speaker 1: if that's what Joe Biden as a Delaware senator was
Speaker 1: really passionate about. Right. I mean, if I ask you
Speaker 1: what is Joe Biden all about, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you'll hear different things from different people. Maybe
Speaker 1: they'll say foreign policy. I think Jensaki said his first
Speaker 1: passionate as foreign policy. It's amazing because Joe Biden has
Speaker 1: been reliably wrong on foreign policy for forty years. He's
Speaker 1: just had bad judgment. His judgment on foreign policy is awful,
Speaker 1: but his judgment on these executive orders is also terrible.
Speaker 1: Not a surprise. Representative Andy Biggs of Arizona said this
Speaker 1: about Biden's specifically his immigration executive orders. Play for President.
Speaker 1: Biden has issued another round of executive orders, this time
Speaker 1: focusing on immigration, and what he's doing is basically reinstating
Speaker 1: the catch and release program with regard to the asylum program,
Speaker 1: so people can come the clearer asylum status are going
Speaker 1: to be released into the interior again. He's also ostensibly
Speaker 1: trying to parole parents who got their kids into the
Speaker 1: country somehow but are somewhere outside of the United States.
Speaker 1: Those children have been largely placed in the homes of relatives,
Speaker 1: many of whom are also in the country illegally, and
Speaker 1: so he's trying to get around the task force that's
Speaker 1: going on with a current legal case. These types of
Speaker 1: things created centives for people that illegally entered the United
Speaker 1: States of America, and what that does is increase the
Speaker 1: power and strength of the human smuggling cartels, the drunk
Speaker 1: smuggling cartels that are running the situation south the borders.
Speaker 1: That's where these things are, and I'm going to keep
Speaker 1: fighting against that. He's right, what he's saying is all true.
Speaker 1: First off, this is we're going through the same thing
Speaker 1: all over again, deja vu all over again, Yogi Bara,
Speaker 1: where you had people shown up at the border claiming asylum,
Speaker 1: and there were folks like me who did research and
Speaker 1: went to the border and figured out from border patrol,
Speaker 1: from the cases, from the numbers that were actually coming
Speaker 1: up every day, that they were lying. Essentially, the people
Speaker 1: are showing up at the border, they had been coached
Speaker 1: and they were claiming that they faced violence in their
Speaker 1: home country, but that was just a past incredible fear standard,
Speaker 1: and then they wouldn't show up in court when it
Speaker 1: was time to show up, and explain really why they
Speaker 1: needed asylum. Right, So they were exploiting the good faith,
Speaker 1: in goodwill of the American people at the border. And
Speaker 1: there was all this fighting, you know, into the Trump
Speaker 1: presidency from the Democrats. You were saying that's not true
Speaker 1: and we're a nation of immigrants and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: They were wrong. It was a lie because when they
Speaker 1: remain in Mexico program, all of a sudden, oh, you
Speaker 1: can still go to court to plead you know, your
Speaker 1: asylum case in court as a Central American for example,
Speaker 1: but you gotta wait in Mexico, which means you don't
Speaker 1: get to just go into the American interior, disappear and
Speaker 1: never show up in court. Oh and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the newest, all of a sudden asylum cases
Speaker 1: dropped off a cliff. Gee, I wonder why, right, Democrats
Speaker 1: were lying. They were lying until we could it was
Speaker 1: obvious what was going on. But until we had all
Speaker 1: the data to prove what was going on, they were
Speaker 1: just going to continue to perpetuate the lie, which is
Speaker 1: what they did. And now that we have all the data,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna they're just acting like, oh, well it's
Speaker 1: different now, so let's let's go back to the previous
Speaker 1: policy where people who show up get to claim, oh,
Speaker 1: I have a credible fear, and then they get to
Speaker 1: stay in the country. And this is an end run
Speaker 1: on the immigration system and all the legal immigrants, you know,
Speaker 1: Ask them about this, Ask them how they feel about
Speaker 1: people showing up crossing in the country illegally, because they're
Speaker 1: often doing an illegal surrender after they crossed the border,
Speaker 1: and then they find themselves in the country without any restraint.
Speaker 1: They can go anywhere they want, to do whatever they want,
Speaker 1: and they never show up again. But Democrats acting like
Speaker 1: we didn't learn the lessons we learned because they don't
Speaker 1: care because they want a de facto open border. This
Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Follow Fuck on Facebook, Instagram,
Speaker 1: and Twitter. Our friend will Rick Cardella is in the mix.
Speaker 1: He is at the Washington Examiner. He's down in DC,
Speaker 1: gonna tell us what's going on inside the Beltway. Will
Speaker 1: great to have you back, Ain. You good to be back, Buck,
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. So we were talking about
Speaker 1: a lot of things today. One that's at the top
Speaker 1: of my mind is these immigration executive orders we saw
Speaker 1: before that what they told us, which is that These
Speaker 1: are people claiming asylum, who are claiming asylum for the
Speaker 1: right reasons, and they're not going to just fail to
Speaker 1: show up for their actual image, their actual asylum hearing
Speaker 1: in court. That was a lie. We've already seen this,
Speaker 1: that wasn't true. That's why they remain in Mexico. Program
Speaker 1: resulted in a huge drop in these asylum requests and
Speaker 1: people showing up at the border. Now, Biden's going back
Speaker 1: to what I mean, I don't see how we can
Speaker 1: view this as anything other than the Democrats doing everything
Speaker 1: they can and moves as close as possible to a
Speaker 1: de facto open border or an even more porous border. Well, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And look, I don't know if you remember during the
Speaker 1: debate when Trump mentioned coyotes and no one on the
Speaker 1: left knew what a coyote was. Well, you know, that's
Speaker 1: a shame, because you know whose business is going to
Speaker 1: boom our coyotes on the border. These are human smugglers.
Speaker 1: They treat people like garbage, and now their businesses is
Speaker 1: on the uptick because Biden's going back to all the
Speaker 1: same garbage policies that led to the Obama dubbed a
Speaker 1: humanitarian crisis on our southern border. Remember kids in cages
Speaker 1: that happened under Obama. You know, Biden just had to
Speaker 1: open up another migrant detention center at the border for overflow.
Speaker 1: Where do you think those kids are going to go.
Speaker 1: They're all going to go right back into these detention centers.
Speaker 1: The Left isn't mentioning any of it. They've incentivized these
Speaker 1: people to come here. And look, coyotes are using Biden's
Speaker 1: words to up their client base and smuggle people into
Speaker 1: the country. You know, this is truly pernicious. And look,
Speaker 1: they don't care about these kids. They use them, they
Speaker 1: put words in their mouth. This isn't about caring about kids.
Speaker 1: This is about getting a voter based for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: It's also about displacing and lowering low income wages so
Speaker 1: that there are p When they do raise minimum wage,
Speaker 1: it will kick a lot of people, you know, offer
Speaker 1: the roles, they won't be able to get human capital,
Speaker 1: and they'll be dependent on government for generations to come.
Speaker 1: It also seems like there's some effort here for the
Speaker 1: Biden administration to shield Democrat members of Congress from having
Speaker 1: to take to votes on this, at least for right now.
Speaker 1: Why not? I mean they have the majority in the House,
Speaker 1: they have a de facto majority in the Senate. Why
Speaker 1: not actually pass legislation if they want to? If they
Speaker 1: want to change the rules in effect around immigration, they
Speaker 1: can do so. But Biden prefers to just use the
Speaker 1: pen on the phone method book. They have no mandate,
Speaker 1: He has no political capital. He barely won the Senate.
Speaker 1: That was a squeaker. You know, they lost seats in
Speaker 1: the House. Joe Biden, you know, his already underwater and
Speaker 1: his approval rating, he doesn't have a mandate. People don't
Speaker 1: like his policies. They didn't like Barack Obama's policies, but
Speaker 1: they like Barack Obama. People don't like Biden as much
Speaker 1: as they liked Obama, and they certainly don't like his policies.
Speaker 1: People forget Trump. Everybody really liked Trump's policies. It was
Speaker 1: Trump as his personality is what people didn't like. So,
Speaker 1: you know, Biden's finding out pretty quickly here that governing
Speaker 1: isn't as easy as staying in your basement and campaigning.
Speaker 1: And look, this is just going to compound. People don't
Speaker 1: want these policies. His improvement approval rate, he's going to
Speaker 1: drop even further, he's gonna have less and less of
Speaker 1: a mandate and it's going to be a bloodbath in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Now, let's talk about where we are
Speaker 1: on this rescue package, stimulus package, spending whatever they're calling
Speaker 1: it today. Senator Lindsey Graham, who of course was on
Speaker 1: Fox News last night, and you know every night he's audies.
Speaker 1: He's going to get answers any moment now, he's going
Speaker 1: to get to the bottom and get the answers that
Speaker 1: we need on all this stuff. Sure he is here,
Speaker 1: he is, though, telling everybody about the spending package or
Speaker 1: play nineteen. And I do believe that this one point
Speaker 1: nine three in dollars package is going to do more
Speaker 1: harm than good to the American economy. And the reason
Speaker 1: we're having this debate, the way we're having this debate
Speaker 1: is because they have unlimited power. My Democratic colleagues, you've
Speaker 1: chosen to do this. The ten Republicans who went down
Speaker 1: to the White House, I appreciate their effort. Maybe some
Speaker 1: good will come from that, But this process we're engaged
Speaker 1: in today makes me wonder if it was worth their time.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can pull a rabbit out of the hat
Speaker 1: and find a bipartisan compromise consistent with what we've done
Speaker 1: over the last year. If not, we're going to march
Speaker 1: down the reconciliation road. We're gonna take one point nine
Speaker 1: train dollars of spending and let one party spend it.
Speaker 1: What happens if Democrats will go forward with a one
Speaker 1: point nine trillion dollars spending package and do it through
Speaker 1: the essentially the budgetary gimmick or trick in Congress of Reconciliation. Well,
Speaker 1: I think I've been on your show many times, Buck,
Speaker 1: and we talked about this at nauseum, that what the
Speaker 1: Democrats did with COVID was to hijack the economy from
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and that was so they can win the
Speaker 1: election in twenty twenty, and that these governors, in particular
Speaker 1: New York in California, which have tremendous economies, if you
Speaker 1: shut those down, you're going to hurt the entire American economy.
Speaker 1: This is a bail this is their bailoff. This is
Speaker 1: their way to co opt the federal printing press. They
Speaker 1: don't they need to balance their budgets, they don't have
Speaker 1: a printing press. They did that with the guarantee that
Speaker 1: the left is going to come in there and give
Speaker 1: them pay them all. Three hundred and seventy billion dollars
Speaker 1: goes to states. This is just a payoff for help
Speaker 1: in bide and get into office. The rest is handouts
Speaker 1: to cronies. And look, this is their generous medicaid funding
Speaker 1: that they have in part two to Obamacare, and in
Speaker 1: part two because they're leftists, to just throw money out
Speaker 1: the window, and look, you know you do. You will
Speaker 1: have inflationary pressures. If the economy opens and you're throwing
Speaker 1: this money into the economy and the velocity of money
Speaker 1: picks up, you're going to have a massive problem. You know,
Speaker 1: you can devalue the dollar. Yelling came out and said,
Speaker 1: or I'm sorry. Powell came out and said their target
Speaker 1: inflation is two percent. They're a little bit under there now.
Speaker 1: So it seems like they're willing and ready to throw
Speaker 1: money around. We'll see what happens in the long run.
Speaker 1: In particular, if things start to open, we need things
Speaker 1: to open now, that would be the best stimulus. All
Speaker 1: the stimulus crap talk is just a handout to their cronies. Yes,
Speaker 1: and it seems like the only place where there's always
Speaker 1: a slowdown is in actually just getting money into the
Speaker 1: hands of people affected by this. I Biden was saying
Speaker 1: it would be two thousand dollars. Now that now they've
Speaker 1: dropped that down, I think it's the fourteen hundred was
Speaker 1: the latest number that I saw. Well, they were pushing
Speaker 1: the two thousand in order to win those two Senate
Speaker 1: seats in Georgia. And now all of a sudden has
Speaker 1: changed all over again, and really what we see will
Speaker 1: is the blue state exodus. They want to try to
Speaker 1: paper this over with money by sending a lot of
Speaker 1: federal tax dollars to Los Angeles, to New York City,
Speaker 1: and to New York and California as states. Isn't it
Speaker 1: interesting that you know they wanted to cut money out
Speaker 1: giving it to the people whose businesses are forcefully shut
Speaker 1: down everyday American people, so that they can increase the
Speaker 1: amount they give to their blue state cronies and governors
Speaker 1: and all of these people who haven't lost a dime.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think some of them got to pay increase.
Speaker 1: They have paid no price for their terrible decision making.
Speaker 1: Then they get paid off and the American people actually
Speaker 1: get less. Then people wonder why everyone's so ticked off
Speaker 1: all the time. These people are in another world, They're
Speaker 1: in another reality, and the thing is is that they
Speaker 1: never pay a price for being wrong. Speaking of Will
Speaker 1: Ricardella of the Washington Examiner, and Will, speaking of Washington,
Speaker 1: tell us what's going on here in DC with people
Speaker 1: demanding either being kicked off of committees or kicked out
Speaker 1: of Congress entirely for this new member of Congress from Georgia,
Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green MTG is how people are referring to
Speaker 1: on the internet. They want the ouster of MTG. What
Speaker 1: do you make of all this? Well, look you have
Speaker 1: now you have Democrats who fight, You say what you
Speaker 1: want about them. They're fighters and they're willing to knock
Speaker 1: her off. Look, we had Ellian olmar Aoc just accused,
Speaker 1: you know, Ted Cruise of attempted murder last week and
Speaker 1: it's like it didn't happen. And all we talked about
Speaker 1: is Marjorie Taylor Green. And then the cheese into conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1: The entire Democratic Party pushed a conspiracy theory for three years.
Speaker 1: When they push a conspiracy theory, they get a special counsel.
Speaker 1: A three year in instigation headlines, the media is behind
Speaker 1: them when they're right. When someone on the right says
Speaker 1: something coopy and a conspiracy theory without to get expelled,
Speaker 1: every person in that parties labeled a conspiracy theorist. Do
Speaker 1: you see how this works? This is a garbage. Adam
Speaker 1: Shift said he had evidence of Russian collusion. Here's this
Speaker 1: guy still on a he's a committee chair. You know. Rep.
Speaker 1: Swallwell said the same thing, The man's a kook. Then
Speaker 1: he was with a Chinese spy, and the Goops focused
Speaker 1: on Marjorie Taylor Green. Why don't you tell them that
Speaker 1: if Green's expelled, we need to expel everybody who participated
Speaker 1: in the Russian collusion conspiracy theory. You all have to
Speaker 1: go to Well. I'm concerned as well that there's a
Speaker 1: there's a feeling right now within the GOP that we
Speaker 1: can buy off this ascendant totalitarian left by just you know,
Speaker 1: if we feed the crocodile a few of our own,
Speaker 1: it'll leave us alone. This is a strategy that history
Speaker 1: and common sense should tell members of the GOP apparatus
Speaker 1: is disastrous. But I do think we're going down that
Speaker 1: pathway right now. Oh absolutely, The old crocodile will eatis les,
Speaker 1: last garbage. Look, I think a lot of these people
Speaker 1: understand that government, like the left gives government power, right,
Speaker 1: there are Republicans who are in government. They like power too.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's seductive. So, you know, do they
Speaker 1: really have our best interests at heart? Here? A huge
Speaker 1: government with a ton of power also gives a Republican
Speaker 1: Party power. I'm not. That's not to say that the
Speaker 1: civil society doesn't permeate the Republican Party entirely, but it
Speaker 1: seems like they try to dismiss their constituents. They don't
Speaker 1: care about, like but you know, losing gracefully. They're happy
Speaker 1: to do it. They don't want to fight. And the
Speaker 1: left or fighters, they've been fighting for one hundred years.
Speaker 1: They've been infecting our institutions from academia, Hollywood, the administrative
Speaker 1: state for one hundred and ten years now. That's what
Speaker 1: the progressive movement has done, and the GOP have just
Speaker 1: kind of been like, oh, well, whatever, we can't say
Speaker 1: anything about that. And that's why we're in this position today.
Speaker 1: What do you think we do about the takeover institutions?
Speaker 1: Because that's really for me, that's the piece here that
Speaker 1: has greatly magnified concerns over Yeah. Look Obama in two
Speaker 1: thousand and two thousand and nine had the Senate, had
Speaker 1: the House, and you know, we made it through that
Speaker 1: as a country. There was some very bad decision making
Speaker 1: and some damage dumb, but we made it through that
Speaker 1: as a country. But right now, when you have Biden
Speaker 1: with this as you'd say, very narrow Senate majority, but
Speaker 1: a still essentially the ability to push anything they want
Speaker 1: through the Senate if they get all Democrats on board.
Speaker 1: Obviously they still have majority in the House. But you
Speaker 1: add to that that corporate America, and it's not just
Speaker 1: social media. I mean major companies of all kinds, major
Speaker 1: hotel chains, you know, companies that are selling you your lawnmower,
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. They're all in on wokeness now too.
Speaker 1: So it feels like there's a magnifying, a force multiplier
Speaker 1: effect going on right now, not only of the political
Speaker 1: victories that the left has pulled off in recent months,
Speaker 1: but also the cultural and private sector muscle that they're
Speaker 1: able to bring to bear. Well, that's exactly right. And
Speaker 1: look what the left is when you know, when Trump
Speaker 1: won and we had one Republicans had the House and
Speaker 1: the Senate, and they had all three branches of government.
Speaker 1: They fought back at the state level. They all of
Speaker 1: a sudden anytime the Left loses and the Republicans control
Speaker 1: more than two branches of government. Federalisms a thing again.
Speaker 1: States have rights again, rights we need. That's what the
Speaker 1: Republicans have to do is fight back at the state level.
Speaker 1: They control a lot of these legislatures, they control a
Speaker 1: lot of these governorships, and they need to bog this
Speaker 1: down litigation. Look, Donald Trump appointed over two hundred federal judges.
Speaker 1: They have a case to make here and a lot
Speaker 1: of these policies in fighting back. Look, they're already starting
Speaker 1: with sanctuary gun states and so on. They don't have
Speaker 1: to support and help federal law enforcement. They don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the point of some of these federalism and the
Speaker 1: tenth Amendment and the ninth Amendment is to kind of
Speaker 1: fight back against these things. And they need to take
Speaker 1: it to court. They need to fight until twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two and they can get some seven one of the
Speaker 1: government back and reduce the administrator. State. Congress needs to
Speaker 1: take back a lot of the power they handed the
Speaker 1: executive branch. It's just become too overwhelming. So I think
Speaker 1: do you think DeSantis might get some some traction here
Speaker 1: with his efforts to push back on big tech, specifically
Speaker 1: in his state. Yes, I look, that dropped you last night.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything fly like that in social media
Speaker 1: in a long time. Um So, yes, I think from
Speaker 1: a grassroots standpoint, that's huge. Whether or not you agree
Speaker 1: with it. Some conservatives may not and so on on
Speaker 1: free speech grounds, but that's what people like, and that's
Speaker 1: what they want to share, and that's what the that's
Speaker 1: what they want to be discussed right now. Big tech
Speaker 1: is a major issue in all of the censorship and
Speaker 1: sifling conservative voices is one of the biggest issues for
Speaker 1: conservatives right now. So yeah, absolutely, de Santis is making
Speaker 1: a push for a twenty twenty four run. We'll record
Speaker 1: tell everybody Watchton Examiner dot com go check it out.
Speaker 1: Will Thanks so much, man. Thanks Buck. You're listening to
Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure you subscribe to
Speaker 1: the podcast on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you
Speaker 1: get your podcasts. It's maybe hard to believe we don't
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time talking about our thinking about
Speaker 1: President Trump. Here, former President Trump to be very clear. Um.
Speaker 1: I think that's a question that's probably more appropriate for
Speaker 1: Republican members who are looking for ways to support a
Speaker 1: bipartisan package and whether that gives them space. But I
Speaker 1: can't say we miss him on twitters support the continuing
Speaker 1: the of I think that's a decision made by Twitter.
Speaker 1: We've we've certainly spoken to and he's spoken to UM
Speaker 1: the need for social media platforms to continue to take
Speaker 1: steps to reduce hate speech. But we don't have more
Speaker 1: for you on it than that hate speech. What what
Speaker 1: hate speech is drump guilty of when it comes to
Speaker 1: election challenges, That that's now hate speech. Now, we've we've
Speaker 1: been worried about this along. We've known that the left
Speaker 1: is very because at the core of their being, I mean,
Speaker 1: to be a leftist in America today is to be
Speaker 1: somebody who believes in the necessity of control, of absolute
Speaker 1: control over other people in the name of the collective.
Speaker 1: And you have to be a part of that collective.
Speaker 1: So you're on the winning side, and you can tell
Speaker 1: everybody who's outside the collective do this or else do
Speaker 1: this because I say so. And it's not even just
Speaker 1: about actions, it's about speech and thought. Now, as well,
Speaker 1: and this has been a long time in coming, but
Speaker 1: just be very clear, this comes from the very top
Speaker 1: the Biden administration, Joe Biden himself. They are favorable to
Speaker 1: this notion. They are They are completely on board for
Speaker 1: censor and conservative opinions that they don't like. This is
Speaker 1: why it's it's so important, it's so essential that we
Speaker 1: find ways to finally bring about some consequence for those
Speaker 1: social media entities that are doing this. Sue them. Boycotting
Speaker 1: them isn't gonna work. Sue them, drag them into court,
Speaker 1: force them to explain why they do what they do,
Speaker 1: and then regulate them. I do a radio show or
Speaker 1: on gosh, I don't know, one hundred and eighty some
Speaker 1: odd stations now across the country. There's all kinds of
Speaker 1: restrictions on what I can say on radio. The government
Speaker 1: involves itself there, there's FCC stuff, and there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of things that I have to be aware of. I
Speaker 1: don't just get to say whatever I want now. Politically,
Speaker 1: I get to say what I want, thank god, because
Speaker 1: radio is not yet locked down the way that the
Speaker 1: Internet is, where they can use algorithms or just individuals
Speaker 1: who are partisans to look for certain words. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a there have to be people actually listening to
Speaker 1: you on radio who then want to go after you
Speaker 1: for hearing your words. Whereas on social media, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you use the wrong hashtag. You know, if you used,
Speaker 1: for example, the hashtag stop the Steel a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: they might just disable your account. I mean, you're gone, right,
Speaker 1: So think about how that influences the national conversation and
Speaker 1: what this all means. But you know, the Republicans we
Speaker 1: have we have an uphill battle here, There's no question
Speaker 1: about it. We have an uphill battle because the left
Speaker 1: hasn't only seized the control of social media companies but
Speaker 1: corporations in general. I mean you now run a risk.
Speaker 1: You run a risk anytime you open your mouth in
Speaker 1: a company now about anything political, even on your own time,
Speaker 1: on your own dime, they may decide that they have
Speaker 1: to make an example of you and you have to
Speaker 1: part ways. They're coming as close as possible right now.
Speaker 1: They're coming as close as they can, I should say,
Speaker 1: to outlawing conservatism. I mean, ultimately, if you really want
Speaker 1: to understand the left wing mindset, if you really want
Speaker 1: to understand how liberals think, the way they do, why
Speaker 1: they think the way they do. All you have to
Speaker 1: do is just start from the premise that if they
Speaker 1: could make your beliefs illegal, they would. I don't want
Speaker 1: to make liberal beliefs or leftist beliefs illegal. I just
Speaker 1: disagree with them, and I think we need to have
Speaker 1: a public debate and argument about whose right and why,
Speaker 1: and let everyone know and engage in that. Intellectual freedom
Speaker 1: is the basis of human freedom, and the left seeks
Speaker 1: to destroy that. They seek to undermine that openly. Now
Speaker 1: more so than ever before in my life. You're in
Speaker 1: the freedom hunt. Thanks for listening to The buck Sexton
Speaker 1: Show podcast. Get the latest from Bucket buck Sexton dot com.
Speaker 1: What is merit? I know, I asked the question, and
Speaker 1: you probably have an answer right away. Merit is the
Speaker 1: worthiness of some kind of achievement, or merit is proving
Speaker 1: ability and skill in a certain area, excelling among one's peers.
Speaker 1: That's what merit is. Right, if you're a and if
Speaker 1: you're a National Merit scholar, you did well enough on
Speaker 1: the SATs. Right, if you had a Meritorious service award,
Speaker 1: you were particularly good at your job or or in
Speaker 1: your service to your country, your community. We know what
Speaker 1: the word means, but there's an effort to act like
Speaker 1: we don't actually and then it comes from the left.
Speaker 1: They're undermining the very, the very concept of merit. And
Speaker 1: and I want to address this because you'll see so
Speaker 1: much more of this in the Biden administration, because it's
Speaker 1: also central to wokeness and the identity politics, the intersectionality
Speaker 1: beliefs of the left that we're all in this society
Speaker 1: of groups oppressing other groups, and there's a hierarchy of oppression,
Speaker 1: and you can't just treat people as individuals. It's all
Speaker 1: about what group are they in, and the government gets
Speaker 1: to make determinations about how to make things more fair
Speaker 1: depending on what group you're in. This is where we are,
Speaker 1: right and there are all these different corollaries and different
Speaker 1: variations on this affirmative action policies, prioritizing minority and underserved
Speaker 1: groups for the vaccine even though age is the primary
Speaker 1: characteristic for those who are at high risk. Anyway, you
Speaker 1: have this play out and in San Francisco right now.
Speaker 1: This this happens often in New York because there's a
Speaker 1: school and I'll take it to San Francisco side of
Speaker 1: this in a moment for a reason. But in New
Speaker 1: York there's a school called stuives In High School, and
Speaker 1: there are a few schools actually stives In High School,
Speaker 1: Bronx Science and Brooklyn Tech. And you get into these
Speaker 1: schools are These are public schools funded entirely by attacks.
Speaker 1: We're part of the public school system. But admission is
Speaker 1: highly competitive based upon a test, and whoever gets certain
Speaker 1: score on the test gets the opportunity to go to
Speaker 1: these schools. And in order of difficulty to get in,
Speaker 1: it's Stives and Bronx Science, then Brooklyn Tech. So I
Speaker 1: took this test, I actually got into Stuyvesant. I didn't
Speaker 1: end up going, but I I did think about going
Speaker 1: to the gifted public school here in New York and
Speaker 1: had that opportunity, should I have wanted it. Stuyveson, though,
Speaker 1: is is constantly criticized for being somehow racist, which is
Speaker 1: fascinating because Stiveson is over seventy percent Asian. So it's
Speaker 1: they say it's racist, but it's benefiting overwhelmingly Asian Americans
Speaker 1: in New York City. Why is that? Is it because
Speaker 1: of Asian privilege? Is it because you have so many
Speaker 1: of these so many of them are children of first
Speaker 1: generation immigrants. You know, people that that run small businesses,
Speaker 1: that work very hard here in New York City so
Speaker 1: that they can have their child go to a place
Speaker 1: like stives in high schools. They can provide for them
Speaker 1: and push their education. And the Left doesn't like this.
Speaker 1: This is a problem for the left because their whole
Speaker 1: narrative is that there's white privilege, right, that white people
Speaker 1: don't really earn what they have in the same way
Speaker 1: that white people are part of an unfair system that
Speaker 1: oppresses other people. But you have these different case studies
Speaker 1: where it's actually Asian Americans. If we're going to do
Speaker 1: this by race, that's what we're talking about, Asian Americans
Speaker 1: who are the greatest beneficiaries of a pure meritocracy and education.
Speaker 1: All right. In this is in New York. It's also
Speaker 1: true in San Francisco, or rather in California in general.
Speaker 1: You've had this at the top. California State schools like
Speaker 1: Berkeley and UCLA have a very high Asian American population
Speaker 1: because it's about GPA and an SAT scores to get
Speaker 1: into those schools. They got rid years ago. Now they've
Speaker 1: brought it back of race based admissions, and so Asians
Speaker 1: skyrocketed in their numbers of admissions to these places, and
Speaker 1: there was a drop, but not a major drop in
Speaker 1: admissions of black and Latino students in these schools. That's
Speaker 1: what ended up happening. Well, now you have a situation
Speaker 1: with the Lowell High School in San Francisco. This was
Speaker 1: from NBC News quote. The San Francisco School Board might
Speaker 1: junk grade and testing requirements for its nationally acclaimed Lowell
Speaker 1: High School, which has long been enlightening rod for issues
Speaker 1: of race in education. The school is the San Francisco
Speaker 1: Unified School District's only nine through twelve campus that uses
Speaker 1: a formula of grades and standardized test scores for admission
Speaker 1: of most students, but that might change because of a
Speaker 1: resolution presented by board members this week. The proposal calls
Speaker 1: for a random lottery for admission to Lowell, which is
Speaker 1: majority who wants to guess Asian American, to replace the
Speaker 1: current grade and test system, which allegedly excludes students of
Speaker 1: color and perpetuates the opportunity gap is destroying the actual
Speaker 1: language we use to describe these things. The opportunity gap
Speaker 1: is not destroy by having a school that gives some
Speaker 1: students who are excelling an opportunity. Particularly we're talking about
Speaker 1: Asian American students. I don't think anybody is running around
Speaker 1: talking about Asian privilege quite yet, but maybe they will.
Speaker 1: But if you want to know what kind of we're
Speaker 1: welly in nonsense is being spewed by people who are
Speaker 1: commissioners of the San Francisco Public school system, here is
Speaker 1: And I want you to listen very closely to what
Speaker 1: she says. One of these commissioners in San fran Out
Speaker 1: in California, Alison Collins, talking about merit play one. Well,
Speaker 1: when we talk about merit, meritocracy, and especially meritocracy based
Speaker 1: on standardized testing, I'm just gonna say it, in this
Speaker 1: day and age, we cannot miss words. Those are racist systems. Well,
Speaker 1: if you're going to say that merit, you know, is
Speaker 1: like fair, it's it's the antithesis of fair, and it's
Speaker 1: the antithesis of just And so you know, you can't
Speaker 1: use equity or you can't you know, talk about social
Speaker 1: justice and then say that you want to have a
Speaker 1: selective school that keeps certain kids out from the neighborhoods
Speaker 1: that you think are dangerous, Like that's all kind of
Speaker 1: Trumpian language, and in San Francisco, I'm proud to be
Speaker 1: a member of the board, and I'm proud of our
Speaker 1: families and our student leaders, and I'm you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think we should be shy about naming those things. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: let's actually talk about this, miss Allison Collins. Let's let's
Speaker 1: really dig into what she says here. Standardized tests or racist?
Speaker 1: Now that's where we are. Oh, okay, how are we
Speaker 1: supposed to measure educational achievement? Is educational achievement ever an
Speaker 1: objective thing? Are some kids better at math than others?
Speaker 1: Do some kids read with greater skill and speed and fluency?
Speaker 1: Read and write with greater skill, speed, and fluency than others? Yes?
Speaker 1: Or no? Is there any way at all to measure
Speaker 1: these things? Are some kids better students than other kids?
Speaker 1: Are some kids smarter than other kids? Is there are
Speaker 1: these real things? Or not? Because if real and we
Speaker 1: can measure them, then what is she really saying? What
Speaker 1: is her point? If San Francisco says that there's there's
Speaker 1: a test that's open that to anybody who wants to
Speaker 1: go to this school, and it's going to measure your
Speaker 1: ability in these subjects and it's essentially made the best
Speaker 1: man or woman or this kid of this case made
Speaker 1: the best you know, boy or girl. When what's the
Speaker 1: problem with that? Why is that an issue? Well, because
Speaker 1: it doesn't have the representational representational conclusions here that they want.
Speaker 1: It does not have enough black and brown students, as
Speaker 1: they say, that's that's the problem. Now there's a majority
Speaker 1: of Asian students. But they're going to say it's white
Speaker 1: privilege and Trumpian language somehow. Hold on, how is that?
Speaker 1: How is it a Trumpian thing for a lot of
Speaker 1: Asian kids to excel in the San Francisco school district
Speaker 1: and at the same the exact same situation that plays
Speaker 1: out here in New York City with stives in high school?
Speaker 1: Why is there racism here? You're going to tell me
Speaker 1: that some kid who has parents who just got here
Speaker 1: first generation immigrants from Vietnam and who came here penniless,
Speaker 1: he does he have some big advantage over his black
Speaker 1: and brown peers. If so, I'd like to know what
Speaker 1: it is. You know, but that the Democrats they do this,
Speaker 1: They pander and they talk around the issue. They speak
Speaker 1: around the issue. They won't actually say what they're really saying,
Speaker 1: which is that they just view standardized tests as racist.
Speaker 1: We'll explain that while are standardized test racist, aren't there
Speaker 1: members of the black and brown community who do it
Speaker 1: incredibly well on standardized tests too. Of course there are
Speaker 1: so in what way are they racist now that they
Speaker 1: just say this? But you're going to see so much
Speaker 1: more of it because merit itself as a concept, if
Speaker 1: it does not support the victimology and oppression narratives of
Speaker 1: the left, merot itself as a concept is under attack.
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as achievement. You didn't build that,
Speaker 1: You didn't take that test and get such a high score. Right,
Speaker 1: It's not about you, It's about society. It's about your privilege.
Speaker 1: I have to give credit to Tucker Carlson. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a brilliant insight he had on his show
Speaker 1: last night when he said, you know, you'll never hear
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos, You'll never hear George Soros, these white billionaires
Speaker 1: who fund all this wokeness and fund all this left
Speaker 1: wing insanity, you never hear about their white privilege. And
Speaker 1: these are the most privileged people in real terms, in
Speaker 1: a real way, in the whole world. This is about power.
Speaker 1: What you're seeing in dynamics of power. People that will
Speaker 1: put principle aside, will even change the plain meaning of
Speaker 1: language in their pursuit of power. That's what's actually happening here, right.
Speaker 1: It is not right to penalize Asian students, predominantly Asian
Speaker 1: students at this school because they are better at academics
Speaker 1: than some of their peers in other minority groups. That's
Speaker 1: not fair, that's not rooted in any principle. That's just
Speaker 1: what the left wants, because the left wants to tell
Speaker 1: communities that are struggling academically, or students that are struggling
Speaker 1: academically in San Francisco. In this case, then it's not
Speaker 1: the it's not their problem, it's not their fault. It's
Speaker 1: not up to them. It's society, and it's society oppressing them. Somehow.
Speaker 1: Society doesn't oppress these Asian students though, And we never
Speaker 1: get an explanation as to why that is. It's still
Speaker 1: white privilege, even though the privilege is really going to Asians.
Speaker 1: Why is that? We should We should ask Commissioner Colleges,
Speaker 1: But she would say, oh, it's Trumpian language. Trump's not
Speaker 1: even president anymore. No, one's even heard from a guy
Speaker 1: in weeks. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Follow
Speaker 1: Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. I think that what
Speaker 1: we're doing to poor kids is a disgrace. These poor
Speaker 1: kids are not in school. They will never recover from this,
Speaker 1: and they had a bad education experience. Anyways, we have
Speaker 1: not had good schools for poor kids, and this now
Speaker 1: is just so much worse. The President has to stand
Speaker 1: up to the unions and teacher unions, teachers teachers unions,
Speaker 1: you know, the teachers say, well, I don't want to
Speaker 1: go back because it's dangerous. We have a lot of
Speaker 1: city and state and federal employees who run risks. That's
Speaker 1: part of the job. You run risks to help America,
Speaker 1: to help your state, to help your city, to help
Speaker 1: your family. And there's just no reason not to have
Speaker 1: the schools open. The virtual classes are a joke. It
Speaker 1: is worse than a joke. Poor people don't have iPads,
Speaker 1: they don't have WiFi, they don't have somebody at home
Speaker 1: to sit during the day and force the child to
Speaker 1: pay attention. And without that, the virtual learning just does
Speaker 1: not exist. And the teachers unions you see in Chicago
Speaker 1: and in New York. We've had problems. It's time for
Speaker 1: Joe Biden to stand up and say the kids are
Speaker 1: the most important things important to players here, and the
Speaker 1: teachers just are going to have to suck it up
Speaker 1: and stand up and provide an education. Otherwise these kids
Speaker 1: have no chance whatsoever. Stephanie, it is a disaster what's
Speaker 1: happening to them. Everything that Minnie Mike Bloomberg here is
Speaker 1: saying is true. So this is why I do separate
Speaker 1: it sometimes out between lunatic, incompetent Democrats and competent but
Speaker 1: wrong on some things Democrats. You know, there's there's the
Speaker 1: sort of AOC wing of the Democrat Party which is
Speaker 1: just coming up with crazy ideas that are disastrous, that
Speaker 1: that won't work, that they couldn't even implement. It's just
Speaker 1: a it's just a mess. I mean, the whole thing
Speaker 1: is stupidity on steroids. And then there's the Mike Bloomberg
Speaker 1: Democrat Party or Mike Bloomberg's within the Democrat Party, who yes,
Speaker 1: he's a he can be a little can be a
Speaker 1: little tyrannical, he's antisecond amendments. He doesn't want you to
Speaker 1: drink a big soda, but you know, if he's gonna
Speaker 1: tell the city workers that they got to clean up
Speaker 1: the streets and get the trash off the streets, he's
Speaker 1: pretty good at that. He's pretty good at that. And
Speaker 1: I've always said, you know, Bloomberg's Bloomberg's tenure in New
Speaker 1: York City was a golden age, a golden age because
Speaker 1: on things that shouldn't really be about politics, it's about results.
Speaker 1: He was pretty solid back the NYPD kept in place
Speaker 1: good NYPD policies. See that that's what ultimately politics is
Speaker 1: the debate to get to the results right. And what
Speaker 1: I want are the good results for the American people.
Speaker 1: What I want are good results for you know, folks
Speaker 1: across the country that they're safer, happier, more secure, and
Speaker 1: are able to pursue happiness in their own way, better
Speaker 1: in places because of decisions that are being made by
Speaker 1: those in authority, because the system is working and functioning,
Speaker 1: auctioning reasonably well around them. So Bloomberg, for all the
Speaker 1: criticism and I got a lot of criticism of Bloomberg
Speaker 1: that we could spend another another day, another time getting
Speaker 1: into he's not an idiot, is a very smart man,
Speaker 1: and he knows how to make things happen, and he's
Speaker 1: saying that this zoom learning in the public schools thing
Speaker 1: is a disaster, which of course it is. But what not?
Speaker 1: Now here's where we get to where, Here's where ideology
Speaker 1: blinds him? What is the flaw everything he said? He's
Speaker 1: assessment of the problems within the school system right now,
Speaker 1: particularly for underprivileged kids because of the COVID lockdowns. His
Speaker 1: assessment was absolutely correct. What's the problem with what he said?
Speaker 1: Where does it all fall apart? Oh? When he says,
Speaker 1: you know, Biden's going to need to stand up and
Speaker 1: he's going to need to stand up to the unions,
Speaker 1: that's never going to happen. The Democrats are owned by
Speaker 1: these teachers union. Democrat politicians will never cross the teachers unions.
Speaker 1: At best, they're going to try to negotiate, try to
Speaker 1: beg and plead with the unions. Hey guys, you're really
Speaker 1: hurting the brand. Dear, you're making things harder for us.
Speaker 1: Come on, please, please please. They're never going to call
Speaker 1: them out for this. The teachers unions aren't abomination. There
Speaker 1: should be no such thing as teachers unions. They should
Speaker 1: not exist. They are public sector unions that should be disbanded.
Speaker 1: But Democrats get huge they get huge donations from them,
Speaker 1: all kinds of benefits from them, and they protect teachers
Speaker 1: from accountability, and they protect these bureaucrats and they're little
Speaker 1: perks that work for these unions, so they're able to
Speaker 1: do this and the children are suffering. It is children
Speaker 1: last in the Democrat party. When you're looking at what
Speaker 1: these unions are doing, it is very clear. It is
Speaker 1: obvious that that's what's happening, and there should be far more,
Speaker 1: far more anger about this. LORI lightfoot those telling you
Speaker 1: guess what they're gonna do, now, what they're gonna say
Speaker 1: about who's to blame play twenty. So, look, this is
Speaker 1: a very difficult situation and we're in it still because
Speaker 1: of the competence of the previous administration. So I think
Speaker 1: it's important for both sides to come to the table
Speaker 1: in good faith, recognize that we're both trying to work
Speaker 1: through a very challenging situation, but we must get a
Speaker 1: deal done. So I've tried to say, let's cool down,
Speaker 1: let's lower the temperature, but let's focus on bridging the
Speaker 1: divide in the remaining issues so we can get a
Speaker 1: deal done and those seventy thousand plus parents who said
Speaker 1: I want to come back to in person for my
Speaker 1: student if they have the option to do so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're blaming Trump, folks. It's Trump's fault that the Chicago
Speaker 1: teachers unions refuse to be reasonable. Yeah. Sure. This is
Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram,
Speaker 1: and Twitter. It's February. They got vaccines and distribution and
Speaker 1: we have lockdown still going on. When is this going
Speaker 1: to end? When is this going to change? In New
Speaker 1: York and in the rest of the country. We got
Speaker 1: our friend Carol Markowitz. She's a commist for the New
Speaker 1: York Post. She joins us now she's been one of
Speaker 1: the fighters on this issue. Carol, great to have you back.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me Buck. So let's start with this.
Speaker 1: You see that that fauci's now saying it's possible the
Speaker 1: CDC might actually change its recommendation that we need to
Speaker 1: double mask now that we actually might be heading. And
Speaker 1: I say this as somebody who's been making fun of
Speaker 1: this for months but kind of knowing that it's coming,
Speaker 1: and now it's now it's real, just like I thought,
Speaker 1: just like you thought it would be. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you've been at the forefront of it. I definitely
Speaker 1: was more like, that's funny, that's never going to happen.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you were predicting it for a while. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think two masks is irresponsible. I think
Speaker 1: it had to be eight or more. It's it's just
Speaker 1: that's where our baseline should be. I keep telling people
Speaker 1: that if the if the new theory is anything that
Speaker 1: could even theoretically reduce even one covid K, can be
Speaker 1: a government mandate. They should limit how many times, how
Speaker 1: many times a minute you're allowed to breathe and if
Speaker 1: you got to hold your breath sometimes because every time
Speaker 1: you breathe out, that's when you're expelling the virus theoretically,
Speaker 1: so so we should mandate breath for everybody. Now, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're getting we're getting so crazy and and Carol, here
Speaker 1: here's my problem. Yeah, I know I worry I say
Speaker 1: this stuff out loud there, I'd say, well, we should
Speaker 1: have goggles because you know, virus from coming through your eyes.
Speaker 1: They've actually brought that up briefly in the past too,
Speaker 1: these so called experts. Um when is when is society?
Speaker 1: I worry that there are a lot of people who,
Speaker 1: you know, the people that are so afraid that they
Speaker 1: can't think straight. There are the people that just don't
Speaker 1: admit that they were wrong, so they're never going to
Speaker 1: change their opinions. But now I'm also thinking maybe there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who kind of like this
Speaker 1: new normal of like limited human contact, order your food,
Speaker 1: other you know, essential workers make and bring your food
Speaker 1: to you, you sit on zoom calls. I think that's
Speaker 1: part of it. Absolutely. I call those people that jama class.
Speaker 1: And I'm in that pajama class. I worked from home.
Speaker 1: I've worked from home before the pandemic, so I totally
Speaker 1: get it. My life was We're doing food on see
Speaker 1: lives and you know, having everything brought to me and
Speaker 1: it's nice. But you know, I'm sure people are liking it.
Speaker 1: But let's not pretend that we're in anything really resembling
Speaker 1: a lockdown when this is happening because people are working.
Speaker 1: It's just not this pajama class that's working and they
Speaker 1: like it that way. Well, this is what I've been
Speaker 1: saying too. I get so angry, Carol when people tell
Speaker 1: me I have a friend right now who's basically fled
Speaker 1: the US to Australia, and his whole thing is Australia
Speaker 1: did this. Australia did this right, you know, and America
Speaker 1: should have done like Australia, doesn't. I say, well, hold
Speaker 1: on a second, and therefore what really should have happened
Speaker 1: here is that we should have had the kind of
Speaker 1: lockdowns that Australia did. But let me start with the
Speaker 1: few things. We're one twentieth the population. We have thirty
Speaker 1: times the population density of Australia in the United States,
Speaker 1: believe or not. I mean, it's Australia is not a
Speaker 1: densely populated place at all. And you know, you addle
Speaker 1: these things up. But then also we've never been we
Speaker 1: people keep saying lockdown works, lockdown works. Then I keep saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: but we don't even really we do. We get all
Speaker 1: the pain and none of the upside, because, as you say,
Speaker 1: there are still people. There are essential workers all over
Speaker 1: the place. The New York City Subway is still running.
Speaker 1: There are people who are getting infected, they're going out,
Speaker 1: they're doing these things. But we shut down some businesses
Speaker 1: and some opportunities for people, and it's just all it's
Speaker 1: just all made up as we go along. Absolutely, and
Speaker 1: you know. The other thing is as soon as you
Speaker 1: come out of the lockdown, it comes back. It's not
Speaker 1: like Australia is having this where we keep harving cases
Speaker 1: at the quarantine hotels because high people are coming in
Speaker 1: with it. So unless you're planning to just lockdown your
Speaker 1: country really definitely and not allow any visitors whatsoever, not
Speaker 1: allow any business entity to go on, you're going to
Speaker 1: have cases. And I keep saying also, it's no lockdowns work.
Speaker 1: Sure lockdowns works. If we never come out of our houses,
Speaker 1: we won't get coronavirus, but somebody's data leave their house,
Speaker 1: so that's where it's going to spread. And it's just
Speaker 1: it's unrealistic. I feel like there's nothing scientific based anymore.
Speaker 1: It's all completely what you feel. And our elected officials
Speaker 1: reflect that. I mean, nobody feels more than Governor Como
Speaker 1: and governor you know, Gavin Newsom there the two biggest
Speaker 1: like make decisions based on their emotions kind of leaders.
Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right, because what's crazy is people like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been surprised by I've been able to predict with
Speaker 1: the bureaucrats and what the so called medical establishment because
Speaker 1: it's always just you're always seeing just one little, you know,
Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. With the actual medical establishment.
Speaker 1: There are so many doctors that talk to who are
Speaker 1: horrified at the school closures, who say that masks were Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe it helps if it's one of you know, ten
Speaker 1: other things you're doing, and you're doing it perfectly, and
Speaker 1: you're doing it all the time. You know. It's like
Speaker 1: there's so much out there that never gets talked about
Speaker 1: from the medical community too. But the part of this,
Speaker 1: Carol that I haven't been, that I had not been
Speaker 1: able to anticipate, was and I see this here in
Speaker 1: New York, how many people are like, no, this is okay. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think we continue. I think we continue like this
Speaker 1: as long as we have to. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: that bothered by this lockdown. I'm still getting paid. People
Speaker 1: bring me my food. And you know, I didn't like
Speaker 1: the outdoors that much anyway. I live in New York.
Speaker 1: That that's really what There's a lot of people like that. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's terrifying. I don't know, the worst thing for me,
Speaker 1: being a parent of three public school children, is I
Speaker 1: was summer there would be riots in the streets when
Speaker 1: they didn't open schools, and then I was really sure
Speaker 1: there riots in the streets when they opened only private
Speaker 1: schools but not public schools. But no one cares. It's
Speaker 1: crazy to me, and I just I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know how to get through to these people, like they
Speaker 1: have stopped educating your children, Like maybe we should care
Speaker 1: about this, but nobody does. And I don't know. I
Speaker 1: looked like when I see protests in Europe, like Europe
Speaker 1: is out freedoming to us, that's crazy me, and yet
Speaker 1: here we are. Yeah. I mean, if you've seen even
Speaker 1: in what's going on in the Netherlands, they've had really intense,
Speaker 1: really serious anti lockdown protests going on there. It's happened
Speaker 1: in some other in other countries as well. But I'm
Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I mean, it's it's one of the things
Speaker 1: that I've still been trying to wrap my mind around.
Speaker 1: I figured at some point, you know, my fellow New Yorkers.
Speaker 1: I know I'm outvoted by them, you know, eight or
Speaker 1: nine to one, my Democrats, but I thought they'd say, okay, guys,
Speaker 1: the science is in schools absolutely should be open. But no,
Speaker 1: a lot of Democrats are like, hey, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: watch MSNBC and listen to talking points about how the
Speaker 1: teachers unions are just representing the interests of their constituents
Speaker 1: and their safety. It's like, no, they're actually holding people's families,
Speaker 1: holy people's children hostage so that they can sit at home.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm so sick of people saying, oh,
Speaker 1: the teachers are worried. Most teachers are in their twenties
Speaker 1: and thirties in the public school system. Okay, the majority
Speaker 1: of them are not, are not even close to being
Speaker 1: at risk. And then some get vaccinated and refuse to
Speaker 1: go back and teach after they're vaccinated. Right, it's a travesty.
Speaker 1: I don't know. And you're talking about those people, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll just stay home and watch. Yeah, while they were
Speaker 1: nanny takes their kids to their pod. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: a private tutor and like their kids are gonna be fine. Um,
Speaker 1: the rest of the kids aren't. And it's this gulf
Speaker 1: is going to be just insurmountable. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen, but I don't know how kids who
Speaker 1: didn't go to school for a year are going to
Speaker 1: compete with kids who went to school every day. And
Speaker 1: have a normal existence. And it's and those people don't
Speaker 1: live far away. You can have kids and queens who
Speaker 1: didn't go to school, kids in Long Island who did,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be like two miles apart, and it's
Speaker 1: going to be clear which one is like on a
Speaker 1: path to success and which one is. And another thing
Speaker 1: for me, and this is really where i've the things
Speaker 1: that I saw that are happening, or the things that
Speaker 1: I knew that would be bad. But it's the absence
Speaker 1: of the corrective, the absence of the of the backlash
Speaker 1: to those things. Right like when when when, when I've
Speaker 1: been at you know this, I've been saying, they're gonna
Speaker 1: say double masking and they're gonna say a ninety five
Speaker 1: masks too. I've been saying that since the summertime, said
Speaker 1: just wait, that's where when they don't, when this doesn't
Speaker 1: work the way they promised us it would, that'll be
Speaker 1: this the goal post shift. And we are in the
Speaker 1: middle of that right now. I figured, Okay, well I
Speaker 1: saw it, but at least people would say, well, now
Speaker 1: I realize this guy Fauci is a moron, and like
Speaker 1: this is just all about control and he's making it
Speaker 1: up his Nope, people are like, oh, you're right, double
Speaker 1: you know the way that they'll just all of a
Speaker 1: sudden turn on a dime and say, okay, even if
Speaker 1: even if what you know, what should be clear now
Speaker 1: is clear to people, they don't react the way I
Speaker 1: thought they would and or the way they thought a
Speaker 1: lot of people would. And now I mean with with
Speaker 1: the school issue and with the state issue even I mean,
Speaker 1: look at you know, I know you're in Florida. You
Speaker 1: know you're a New Yorker, but you're down in Florida.
Speaker 1: At the meantime, I've been down in Florida a few
Speaker 1: times as well. DeSantis straight up says now in press conferences,
Speaker 1: Lockdown's failed, right, and the data supports him. But somehow
Speaker 1: we can't get the country to focus on this for
Speaker 1: a second and say, hold on, we ran the experiment
Speaker 1: here and Florida one right, Yeah, there's no sanity around that.
Speaker 1: You know, you pointed out New Yorkers are very liberal.
Speaker 1: I'm a lifelong New Yorker, you're a lifelong new Yorker.
Speaker 1: We're not waiting for our city to become conservative, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's just not going to happen. But I really
Speaker 1: it's broken me how much I've seen New Yorkers not
Speaker 1: be sane during this process, and it's really it's changed
Speaker 1: my perception of my city and of my neighbors, of
Speaker 1: the fellow residents, because I saw something that I can't unsee,
Speaker 1: which is that they completely lost track of sanity and
Speaker 1: they engaged in conspiracy theories about places like Florida, where
Speaker 1: they were following the science and where the numbers are clear,
Speaker 1: and you just couldn't wrap their minds around it. And
Speaker 1: it's really tough for me to imagine a future in
Speaker 1: New York because of it. I love New York. I
Speaker 1: really never wanted to move anywhere else. We're going to
Speaker 1: raise our kids in Brooklyn and retire to Manhattan. But
Speaker 1: I don't know that I cann't see what I saw
Speaker 1: this last year. We're speaking to Carol Markowitz. She's a
Speaker 1: a columnist for The New York Post, writing a lot
Speaker 1: about lockdowns, particularly the school closures issue that's been going on. Carol,
Speaker 1: I want to ask about the Governor Cuomo. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: on the one hand, I'm running around giving Rond de
Speaker 1: Santis high fives whenever I can, because you know, he's
Speaker 1: the results because of results, because of what's actually happened
Speaker 1: in his state. You know, their tax their tax revenues
Speaker 1: up three hundred million dollars. Think about that in a
Speaker 1: pandemic here. And meanwhile you look at the the Cuomo
Speaker 1: side of the equation. Why is it that all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, is it because they'd rather have
Speaker 1: Leticia James as the governor of New York? You know,
Speaker 1: she came out with this reporter that the nursing homes.
Speaker 1: It feels a little bit like the left has started,
Speaker 1: the Democrats have started to turn on Cuomo. Is it
Speaker 1: because they just can't prop up the lies anymore? Or
Speaker 1: you think there's something else working here? What changed? I
Speaker 1: do think they can't prop up the lines anymore. I
Speaker 1: think the facts are the facts, and I don't think
Speaker 1: that they can get around it for too much longer.
Speaker 1: They still will try. Let's be clear here. You know,
Speaker 1: even with that report, I haven't seen sort of the outrage.
Speaker 1: Imagine that report came out about Governor de Santisa Florida.
Speaker 1: That would just be wall to wall news like sure,
Speaker 1: CNN covered the report, but do they make it an
Speaker 1: all day story? Did MSNBC do that, of course not,
Speaker 1: but they would have if he was a Republican. So
Speaker 1: and the thing that you know, you and I keep
Speaker 1: coming back to is he still enjoys a very high
Speaker 1: level of support in New York and that's very hard
Speaker 1: to get around. So when he does crazy things like announces,
Speaker 1: you know, three or four days ago that restaurants will
Speaker 1: open on February fourteenth, you know, weeks into the future,
Speaker 1: nobody's saying, wait a minute, what changes between now and then?
Speaker 1: Where Where is the city council members who to stand
Speaker 1: up for their own districts and say, these restaurants in
Speaker 1: my district are closing, they have closed, They don't need
Speaker 1: two more weeks of closure. We could just open them
Speaker 1: right now. You know, where is CNN? Where is MS ABC?
Speaker 1: Where does anybody used to say these policies don't make
Speaker 1: any sense and they're just not They're not around one there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna say, what one part of
Speaker 1: this that's also been really really troubling to me, And
Speaker 1: it's why, for the first time in my life, I
Speaker 1: really do consider permanently um, you know, changing changing residents
Speaker 1: here at leite, meaning leaving the city or the state,
Speaker 1: and I've been here really almost my entire life. I mean,
Speaker 1: I had to go for work a couple of times elsewhere,
Speaker 1: but it's because I had always felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: New York was the example of a place where there
Speaker 1: were some things where politics were more or less either
Speaker 1: put aside, or you could say it became truly bipartisan,
Speaker 1: making a cleaner, safer, better city that people all over
Speaker 1: the world wanted to visit, That businesses were thriving in,
Speaker 1: that people wanted to come to that you know, rents
Speaker 1: were skyrockman, that part of it. You know, it was
Speaker 1: not great for us, but you know, it was indicative
Speaker 1: of the supplying demand of people wanting to be here,
Speaker 1: wanting to be in this city, and understanding that Okay,
Speaker 1: you know we don't always have to have you know,
Speaker 1: the fights about religious freedom and all those things with
Speaker 1: our with our fellow New Yorkers, we could put that
Speaker 1: aside for a second and say we all agree we
Speaker 1: want safe streets, clean streets, good schools. With the pandemic,
Speaker 1: it's turned into yeah, I know we're suffering, and this
Speaker 1: is idiotic and this and the and the city's deteriorating,
Speaker 1: but we're still going to support our Democrat you know, leadership. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's where I feel like, Okay, well now we
Speaker 1: got to draw a line, right, that's absolutely right, and
Speaker 1: it's been heading sort of in that direction, but the
Speaker 1: pandemic just brought it to, you know, to the front um.
Speaker 1: I think so much of what's been happening in New
Speaker 1: York for the last couple of years has been the slide.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, it's it's very easy to ignore
Speaker 1: say a mayor Bill de Blasio, when times are good
Speaker 1: whatever he wants to take money from the rich due
Speaker 1: to the poor, and like he can make any proclamation
Speaker 1: you want. But when he when when times are bad,
Speaker 1: I think all of that incompetence really is more noticeable.
Speaker 1: It's easy to be a bad leader when things are
Speaker 1: going well, and that's what this leadership in New York
Speaker 1: has had for a while. But now things aren't and
Speaker 1: they can't well. I think also California I was considered
Speaker 1: ahead of New York on this on this timeline of
Speaker 1: how long it takes to ruin a place that is
Speaker 1: gifted with a lot of wealth and talent and history,
Speaker 1: and just you know, California was like it was like
Speaker 1: the was the American dream. Really in the eighties. I
Speaker 1: mean you and I grew up. We're close to the
Speaker 1: same age. All the movies were setting. You know, everybody
Speaker 1: wanted to be a kid growing up in like you know,
Speaker 1: Pasadena or Santa Monica or you know whatever. That was
Speaker 1: like the height of America. And now people are fleeing
Speaker 1: California for Nevada, for for Colorado, for Idaho, for Texas.
Speaker 1: Now people are fleeing you know, New York, which was
Speaker 1: the greatest city in the world. They're fleeing for Florida
Speaker 1: and North Carolina and all the and I mean this
Speaker 1: is where this is. It takes time for a Cuomo,
Speaker 1: a Newsom, a Deblasio to ruin a place. But they've
Speaker 1: had some time, Carol. Yeah, and they had it sped
Speaker 1: up for them with the pandemic. But yeah, absolutely, they've
Speaker 1: had some time. It's crazy that people like me and
Speaker 1: you are thinking of leaving and that they're not doing
Speaker 1: anything about it. I just I don't understand how they
Speaker 1: just accept that they're seeing this migration out of the
Speaker 1: state and not doing anything. Yeah, it's like they don't well,
Speaker 1: I guess they just figured they're gonna federally they're gonna
Speaker 1: push for more federal income tax and redistribute the wealth
Speaker 1: that way. But Carol Mark, whit's everybody, Carol, stay warmed
Speaker 1: down there in Florida. And thanks so much for joining
Speaker 1: us from the New York Post. Thanks so much. This
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Speaker 1: let me say, worried about President Baden's executive orders on
Speaker 1: all in Gash right, they are immeasurably foolish. They're gonna
Speaker 1: gut Luciana like a fish. One third of my state's GDP.
Speaker 1: It's related to all in gash and our state is
Speaker 1: not alone. His war on all and gas is gonna
Speaker 1: hurt America. It's gonna hurt America. It's gonna hurt individual
Speaker 1: Americans a whole lot, and they don't care. And this
Speaker 1: is what you need to understand we're up against here,
Speaker 1: that this is the real the Democrat administration that we
Speaker 1: are currently faced with. A Biden administration is very ideologically driven.
Speaker 1: It is the apparatus of the left that's who's making
Speaker 1: the decisions. That's who is in charge. So Joe Biden
Speaker 1: can go and do his whole oh you know, rull
Speaker 1: up a sleeves and I was you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I was a guy who's friends with the coal miners
Speaker 1: and all this stuff that he says, I mean, all
Speaker 1: the nonsense stories that Joe Biden's always telling people. You
Speaker 1: can do that as much as he wants. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, the Democrat Party is a far
Speaker 1: left progressive entity now that would be unrecognizable the Democrats
Speaker 1: fifty years ago, even thirty years ago. And here we
Speaker 1: are with executive orders that are going to have really
Speaker 1: negative that are really gonna hurt people. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: hurting people. He's hurting people because they believe in all
Speaker 1: the scary climate change the CO two in the big
Speaker 1: sky is gonna come down on Austin. So they're absurd
Speaker 1: quasi religious belief about the end of the world coming
Speaker 1: because of CO two in the air, which is just bonkers,
Speaker 1: is making them feel justified in taking actions that are
Speaker 1: gonna make people not able to pay their bills, kind
Speaker 1: of kick people out of their homes, shutter businesses, and
Speaker 1: there's real pain, there's real misery that comes from this.
Speaker 1: There's real problems that this creates. They just don't care
Speaker 1: price they're willing to pay. This is like a cult
Speaker 1: belief and the Democrat the Democrats always said that Trump
Speaker 1: was a cult and all this stuff. Now you see
Speaker 1: we move on now, and conservatives we're looking looking to
Speaker 1: the future and trying to figure out what we're gonna
Speaker 1: do here. For Democrats, it's you cannot you cannot deviate,
Speaker 1: You cannot do anything other than nod your head, bend
Speaker 1: the knee, and degree with the climate change cult. It
Speaker 1: is absolutely mandatory. You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast,
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Speaker 1: Butter on Warm Toast. It's time to spread some freedom
Speaker 1: from coast to coast. It's time for roll Call. You
Speaker 1: know they're doing they're doing a Buck Rogers. This surrounds
Speaker 1: you some sort of space show or so. You know
Speaker 1: they're doing a Buck Rogers remake. You hear about this.
Speaker 1: I don't even know who Buck Rogers is, Captain William
Speaker 1: buck Rogers. It's gonna They're gonna be there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a new this is, according to Den of Geek, which
Speaker 1: is the place I should probably be hanging out. Um
Speaker 1: Buck Rogers coming back. Legendary Entertainment is snagged the movie
Speaker 1: rights to the ninety two year old character, and Buck
Speaker 1: Rogers brought sci fi elements like ray guns, rocket ships, lasers,
Speaker 1: and jet packs in a popular culture. According to Den
Speaker 1: of Geek. Here with the prop He's vision of the
Speaker 1: future an emphasis on action and adventure, influencing everything from
Speaker 1: Disney's Tomorrowland attraction to George Lucas's original concept for Star Wars.
Speaker 1: The movie will bring Buck all the way back to
Speaker 1: his roots by adapting Armageddon twenty four nineteen, a d
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty eight novella in which the character made his debut,
Speaker 1: written by Philip Francis Nolan and published in the iconic
Speaker 1: pulp fiction magazine Amazing Stories. So the tale follows the
Speaker 1: adventures of Anthony Rodgers Buck Rogers, a World War One
Speaker 1: veteran who's investigating strange phenomena in an abandoned Pennsylvania coal
Speaker 1: mine for his company, the American Radioactive Gas Corporation. When
Speaker 1: he's trapped by a cave in, Rogers falls into suspended
Speaker 1: animation and reawakens four hundred and ninety two years later
Speaker 1: in the twenty fifth century, Boom Buck Rogers. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm excited about this producer Mark. I don't even
Speaker 1: know the Buck Rogers stuff, like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: about it. But do you know why I'm excited? Because
Speaker 1: Buck exactly, and we need we need a new person
Speaker 1: so that when I say my name is Buck. This
Speaker 1: is what happens to me in life. I say, someone says,
Speaker 1: excuse me, sir, I'm at Starbucks and I and they,
Speaker 1: you know, they say, what's your name? And I say, oh,
Speaker 1: my name is My name is Buck. They say, okay, Bob.
Speaker 1: Happens all the time, and I'm like, this, Buck really
Speaker 1: sound that much like Bob. But anyway, okay Bob, and
Speaker 1: they write, you know, they're about to write Bob, but
Speaker 1: no, no no, no no, it's Buck. And then they'll and then
Speaker 1: the staff will look at me and say, like, uncle Buck.
Speaker 1: That needs to change. Buck Rogers is a space age
Speaker 1: superhero and that's the association we want. I mean, hopefully
Speaker 1: one day it'll be like Buck Sexton the radio host,
Speaker 1: but for right now, it's, uh, we gotta get away
Speaker 1: from Uncle Buck. I mean, you'd rather than call you
Speaker 1: Bob or uncle Buck than the other thing that your
Speaker 1: name rhymes with. Thanks, Mark, Thanks, appreciate, appreciate that, buddy.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I'm saying it could be worse, That's what. Yeah, thanks,
Speaker 1: It could be worse. It could be worse. Yes, I
Speaker 1: remember the name game as a child Buck Bucko. It
Speaker 1: could be worse. Yeah, don't don't say that on the radio, please, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Buck buck bow Buck Fanana Fane. We all remember how
Speaker 1: that went. So anyway, obviously really reliving now child childhood
Speaker 1: traumas on the radio. But I saw this Buck Rogers
Speaker 1: thing and I was kind of excited about it. Um uh,
Speaker 1: producer Mark, any any news from from Markland this week? Just? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, do you have you made your pick for
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl yet? Have I asked you? You haven't.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have yet. Who who is gonna win?
Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards the Chiefs, but you know what, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked if the Buccaneers won either. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be a great game. Tom Brady is uh, He's
Speaker 1: an American icon, that's for sure. But this Mahomes character
Speaker 1: is also apparently a just I think he's way to
Speaker 1: being an American icon if he if he's not already,
Speaker 1: he's if his career goes as expected, you know, he
Speaker 1: keeps up this pace, he'll be the best quarterback of
Speaker 1: all time. That's pretty astonishing. So all right, it'll be
Speaker 1: it'll be a good game. We'll check it out. What now,
Speaker 1: let's talk some Super Bowl dishes. What are the what
Speaker 1: are the go tos in the Mark household for Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: What do you have to add? Well, my wife always
Speaker 1: makes for any big game buffalo chicken dip, which is
Speaker 1: heaven on earth. But have you ever had anything like it? No?
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds good. What is it? You basically
Speaker 1: shred up some chicken breasts, put some cream cheese, hot sauce,
Speaker 1: and I think there's a few other ingredients, other cheeses.
Speaker 1: Mix it up, put it in the oven for an
Speaker 1: hour or so, comes out perfect, just some chips on
Speaker 1: the side, whatever else you want. Yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 1: amazing how many how many dishes there are that I've
Speaker 1: eaten in the past, and then when I figure out
Speaker 1: how you make them, you know what the secret ingredient is?
Speaker 1: Cream cheese. Cream cheese makes almost anything taste better. Like
Speaker 1: any recipe where they but there's cream cheese, You're like,
Speaker 1: I'll eat that, you know what? You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's almost nothing I won't eat with cream cheese in it, exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean people even any cream cheese and sushi for
Speaker 1: heaven's sakes, right the Philadelphia role, Yeah, cream cheese and
Speaker 1: anything makes it better. So that's that's one of those
Speaker 1: things where at any recipe I see that, I go, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: this will this will be kind of a good one.
Speaker 1: We tend to do barbecue in the in the Sexton
Speaker 1: family for for Super Bowl purposes, So anything's with a barbecue, barbecue, ribs, chicken,
Speaker 1: brisket obviously we know I'm a big fan of brisket,
Speaker 1: and I'm hoping I'm gonna cook really a beautiful steak
Speaker 1: for myself this weekend at some point too. That's something
Speaker 1: I've got on the You're the one who while the
Speaker 1: game's going on, cooking the steak everyone else is watching
Speaker 1: the game and then show Yeah of course, yeah, well
Speaker 1: who's doing the halftime the weekend right? Tell me this? Yes,
Speaker 1: And he doesn't spell his name like an actual weekend right,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm not very familiar with this.
Speaker 1: It's like wk n D or something like that. It's
Speaker 1: definitely I'm not I'm not into the contemporary music these days.
Speaker 1: I think that music is just keeps getting worse every year.
Speaker 1: And I know that's a grumpy, get off my lawn
Speaker 1: kind of thing to say, but I think music is
Speaker 1: just in this constant state of decline in this country
Speaker 1: these days. Yeah, there's very few new artists that I like.
Speaker 1: There's artists that have been around a long time that
Speaker 1: still make new music that I like, but there's nobody
Speaker 1: that's you know, last couple of years. When was the
Speaker 1: last time you heard about a new band that you're like,
Speaker 1: These guys are awesome. I want to go download all
Speaker 1: their songs. Oh, I can't think of one. But it's
Speaker 1: been forever for me. I mean I can't even you know,
Speaker 1: like ten or fifteen years at this point. Anyway, all right,
Speaker 1: bucking Mark's grump corner, We're gonna move on here to
Speaker 1: to what the folks have to say in the roll call.
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Speaker 1: do it. Let's get to it. Brian, Hey, bucking Mark,
Speaker 1: my wife and I went to Florida for the New
Speaker 1: Year's holiday from Michigan so we can enjoy some freedom
Speaker 1: for a change. I couldn't agree with you more. I'm
Speaker 1: moving to Florida. We left there already looking for jobs
Speaker 1: and house. Luckily we both have careers. We can get
Speaker 1: a job anywhere. It's nice. They have a governor and
Speaker 1: a government that does its best to protect its citizens
Speaker 1: from the federal government. Just one favor, I asked, stop
Speaker 1: talking up Florida. I'd like to be able to afford
Speaker 1: a house down there. Shield's Eye. Fellow patriots and Brian
Speaker 1: people have been telling me that they're like, shud, don't
Speaker 1: you know only we only want Republicans going. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: who are you think listening to this show? Were conservatives? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean, so there are some Democrats, and welcome to
Speaker 1: Democrat Democrat team. Buck, You're always welcome. I think there's
Speaker 1: not that many of you, but you know, people are
Speaker 1: gotta move. They gotta move down to Florida. The ones
Speaker 1: that are leaving these blue states. Hopefully they all understand
Speaker 1: why they're leaving and why they wouldn't want that to
Speaker 1: be replicated down in Florida. So I'm I'm very bullish,
Speaker 1: very bullish on Florida. I own property in Florida through
Speaker 1: my friends. It done for your real estate, so you know,
Speaker 1: I'm all about it. I think Florida's Florida's the future.
Speaker 1: It really is, and we wanted to be a conservative
Speaker 1: utopia to the degree it can be. I know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of Democrats in Florida. It's you know, probably
Speaker 1: forty nine fifty one or something now Republican Democrat. But
Speaker 1: as long as it stays stays in the in the
Speaker 1: red column, you can have, I mean all this sort
Speaker 1: of stuff. You can own a gun procer Mark. You know,
Speaker 1: my brother's down there tell me that the gun laws
Speaker 1: are basically, oh, you want to go get a concealed
Speaker 1: carry permit, Great, you can, and it's got reciprocity in
Speaker 1: like a few dozen states. In New York, if you
Speaker 1: want to get a gun permit, they're like, you're it's suspicious.
Speaker 1: The police here, like, what do you mean you want it?
Speaker 1: You want to conceal carry permit. We're not going to
Speaker 1: give you that. Why do you need that? That's what
Speaker 1: they say here in Florida. They're like, of course, you're
Speaker 1: an American, go get yourself a gun. It's amazing. Have
Speaker 1: you ever been shooting? Mark? I have not. I've never
Speaker 1: shot a gun. I don't even ever ever held a gun. Wow, Buddy,
Speaker 1: I mean born and raised in New York. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: the flu well, no, I know that's that. The people
Speaker 1: can't even imagine that here. I mean, yeah, if you
Speaker 1: have a gun in New York, chains are you're either
Speaker 1: a copper criminal. There's very few. There's very little in between.
Speaker 1: Very few people in New York City. I mean there
Speaker 1: are some, but very few have a legal firearm here. Mark.
Speaker 1: We'll have to take you shooting at some point, buddy, Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: once we get Yeah, there are there are those places.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like Vegas. There are these places where
Speaker 1: you can go and pay to shoot a machine gun
Speaker 1: and it seems all cool and stuff, but that's not
Speaker 1: It's much more fun to go and actually, you know,
Speaker 1: shoot a pistol that you own, or go with a
Speaker 1: friend and you know shoot a shoot an aar or
Speaker 1: something and really work on your your marksmanship and your
Speaker 1: your basic firearm skills because those machine gun places they
Speaker 1: charge you a ton of money and they basically hold
Speaker 1: the gun while you hold it like you're a little kid,
Speaker 1: and they let you just depress the trigger and it
Speaker 1: goes blah blah blah blah blam for a second, and
Speaker 1: then it costs you like four hundred dollars. So those
Speaker 1: are not I had to take some some clients once
Speaker 1: when I was out or you know, people for for
Speaker 1: business purposes. When I was in Vegas, we went to
Speaker 1: one of these places, and it's an experience, but I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to fire ten rounds with
Speaker 1: the squad automatic weapon, Like I want to have the
Speaker 1: squad automatic weapon for the afternoon with you know, hundreds
Speaker 1: of rounds and you know, really, and that was not
Speaker 1: a that was not how it went down. So we'll
Speaker 1: take we'll take your shooting at some point. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a good experience. It's experience everybody should have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you also appreciate. But I will say this, once
Speaker 1: you've actually shot a gun, Mark and you watch movies
Speaker 1: and you see these guys who were like do a
Speaker 1: back flip and then three rolls on the ground and
Speaker 1: with their left hand turn their pistol sideways and they
Speaker 1: shoot a guy. They shoot the bad guy in the
Speaker 1: forehead from you know, two hundred yards away from a
Speaker 1: moving helicopter. You're gonna be like, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: how it really happens. That's because it's not. That's the
Speaker 1: very hard Actually, that's one of the big critiques always
Speaker 1: of twenty four is how does Jack Bahar never run
Speaker 1: out of ammo and how does he shoot at those
Speaker 1: weird angles all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I'm
Speaker 1: sure I haven't eve seen twenty four, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: that's all very true. So it's something I mean, it's
Speaker 1: very entertaining. But I'm sure for somebody like you, you
Speaker 1: would just point out the inaccuracies. I used to have that,
Speaker 1: but I'm so long out of that world in the
Speaker 1: CIA and everything that I feel like now I'm I
Speaker 1: watched this almost like I watched it like a civilian.
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, heah, whatever, But there was a time
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's not how that would go, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not the way we would write that report up,
Speaker 1: and blah blah, blah everything. I was like, I was
Speaker 1: that guy. That's actually what I do. Anytime there's like
Speaker 1: a show that involves TV news, like behind the scenes
Speaker 1: in the control room, they're like, well, that's not how
Speaker 1: it's supposed to go. No stuff like that. Yeah, nope, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of at least back in
Speaker 1: the day, a lot of a lot of profanity in
Speaker 1: the actual control room for news shows going on, because
Speaker 1: I think that was just back in the day. Yeah. Still,
Speaker 1: so that that's one thing people would need to get
Speaker 1: used to, all right, Maureen, Hey Bucket producer Mark, love
Speaker 1: you guys, and I love your embrace of the flip
Speaker 1: flops around the clock. Buck I'm a coastal California girl,
Speaker 1: so flip or year round here, even in the rain.
Speaker 1: I laughed at producer Marks reluctant to be that laid
Speaker 1: back though he's seriously East coast. But I'm totally with
Speaker 1: the producer Mark on the Birkenstocks. Just say no, Bucks,
Speaker 1: step away from the Birkenstocks. Flip flops, no problem. Pajama
Speaker 1: pants maybe, but birkenstocks, no way. And with socks on,
Speaker 1: dear god, no. Um. So she's she's agreeing with you
Speaker 1: on the on the Birkenstocks. But now now I just
Speaker 1: want to be defiant and rock the rock the Birks,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean I could if
Speaker 1: you grew your hair out a lot more and like
Speaker 1: let the beard go, didn't trim it for a while,
Speaker 1: then war broken Stocks, I could see it. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: you would look mightily homeless and like you just went
Speaker 1: to um, Who's a Grateful Dead concert? Yeah? But oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the yeah yeah yeah. And Jerry Garcia, right, he's he's
Speaker 1: not alive anymore, right, isn't No, he's not? Yeah, fish
Speaker 1: yeah another one, ye oh yeah. People love that stuff.
Speaker 1: I never understood the appeal of fish, but people said
Speaker 1: it was like the greatest live expeeds every man like
Speaker 1: you just to see you just dropped some acid, You
Speaker 1: see all the colors, You smoke a little weed, you
Speaker 1: eat some ice cream. And I was always I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't do any of those things except accepted ice cream. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: so they would sell out the garden for two weeks
Speaker 1: at a time, Madison Square Garden. That's amazing, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: They were. They were a really successful music act, So
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised to hear that this is the Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram,
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Speaker 1: it on the show. Ray is next up here. Hey, Buck,
Speaker 1: I'm a faithful daily listener from the communist state of Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I find your podcast to be entertaining and insightful. I
Speaker 1: know we're looking our wounds over the election and the
Speaker 1: censorship by big tech. Always remember the left will overreach
Speaker 1: because they are tyrants and it's in their DNA shields.
Speaker 1: High Well, Ray, thank you so much, and I really
Speaker 1: appreciate that you find this show entertaining and insightful. And yeah,
Speaker 1: we are in a little bit of a we're in
Speaker 1: a regrouping phase right now. Let's just let's just accept
Speaker 1: and be honest about that. That's what that's where conservatism
Speaker 1: is right now. We are in a regrouping moment here.
Speaker 1: But we will do so, we will get we will
Speaker 1: get to a better place here right now. I know
Speaker 1: it feels even a little hopeless for some folks, but
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. It's going to get better. I
Speaker 1: got to be an optimist. Sometimes we're figure it all
Speaker 1: out we'll figure it out together. Katie. I've only recently
Speaker 1: started listening to you. I really appreciate your high road
Speaker 1: approach and how you tie events and new stories to
Speaker 1: the bigger picture. From what I've heard so far, your
Speaker 1: discussions are really about who is right, so fleeting, emotional
Speaker 1: and subjective, but what is right a more rational discussion
Speaker 1: and approach Shield's high. Well, thank you Katie for your
Speaker 1: astute observations about the show, and we certainly aspire to that.
Speaker 1: Try to try to make this as much about Look,
Speaker 1: this is always I mean, all all news is a
Speaker 1: form of brain engagement that is also entertainment, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: learning is entertaining, and anything where you're getting new information
Speaker 1: entertains a part of your brain. But we try to
Speaker 1: make this as as substantive as I possibly can and
Speaker 1: get to the why and the what matters as as
Speaker 1: quickly as I can every day and as much as
Speaker 1: I can every day. Well also, you know, making fun
Speaker 1: of Bernie Sanders accent and do another silly thing sometimes.
Speaker 1: So we got a lot going on. But I'm glad
Speaker 1: you appreciate this show, and thank you very much for listening.
Speaker 1: Brian Buck and Mark, I hope you guys are well.
Speaker 1: I just flew home from working a boat show in
Speaker 1: Palm Beach and it was everything I thought it could be.
Speaker 1: Really hope you guys are permanently getting down the Delray
Speaker 1: Beach sooner than later. Florida is filling up fast. Anyway,
Speaker 1: news hit that about the CCP no longer recognizing the
Speaker 1: British Overseas Passport, which is essentially meaning three hundred thousand
Speaker 1: people are fleeing Hong Kong for the UK. My gut
Speaker 1: tells me that's only a matter of time until the
Speaker 1: CCP consumes Taiwan, like soon they know they can make
Speaker 1: their move with effeckless and compromise Biden administration, who will
Speaker 1: do nothing. Could you do a deep dive on Taiwan
Speaker 1: and if they are to remain independent from CCP, Brian,
Speaker 1: I am interested in doing that, and so let me
Speaker 1: think about how we could bring more information about that
Speaker 1: to the forefront, because this is that's a major geopolitical
Speaker 1: event that I think is seeming increasingly increasingly likely and
Speaker 1: not not certain, but likely, and that would have huge ramifications.
Speaker 1: I mean that China officially taking Taiwan would have a
Speaker 1: lot of ramifications all over the world. Rannon Shields II. Buck,
Speaker 1: I want to say thank you for the show you
Speaker 1: do and you tell the truth and you tell it
Speaker 1: how it is, and I consider you a friend too.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Also look forward to listening to your show
Speaker 1: each day. Then it goes to Rush, oh Rihanna, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. And I'm in great company there with
Speaker 1: the one and only, the truly great Rush Limbaugh. So
Speaker 1: thank you. You've got excellentation in radio shows, that's for sure,
Speaker 1: and team that's gonna be it for me for today.
Speaker 1: Please do pass the buck, tell somebody in your life
Speaker 1: about the Bucks Exton Show, and until tomorrow, we've all
Speaker 1: got our orders. Shields high,