WEBVTT - The Blue States Exodus Expands 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.520 You're in the freedom hunt. Thanks for listening to the 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.760 buck Sexton Show podcast to get the latest from Bucket 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:13.160 buck Sexton dot com. You may have heard of Florida 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:16.079 Man at some point. This may be a phrase that 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.239 you've come across. It used to meet a guy in 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:21.759 flip flops with a mullet who led cops on a 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.639 high speed car chase with an alligator strapped at the 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:29.920 roof of his oldsmobile. But now it's anyone fleeing the 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.800 tyranny of poorly run blue states in search of freedom, 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:39.600 gun rights and zero percent state income tax. Our country 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.040 was set up so that states, as you know, would 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:46.760 be laboratories of our democracy, that states would be able 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:51.239 to try different policies, and people could move depending on 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.080 what they wanted, what they liked, and how it was 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:57.000 all going well. It's amazing to me that you have 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:02.720 such a clear, such a clear winner here with the 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.080 state of Florida, as well as some other red states 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.559 that are doing quite well. A lot of Californians leaving 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.160 for Idaho, for example. You've had a big surge of 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.119 people to Montana, which is actually not that read as 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:18.920 a state, but it is majority Republican and this is 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.520 going on at a time when we've really been reliant 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.760 on state governments in ways that we haven't seen in 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.920 a very long time. Because of the COVID pandemic. The 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:33.800 state's authority to take action on health matters has really 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.679 made a big difference in our lives. We had been, 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.039 especially conservatives, focused on the tyranny of the federal government 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.520 for a very long time. But as we see, state 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:47.680 governments can be either protectors of your rights and liberties 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.680 or they can trample on them even more. And the 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.920 states that have had the most control over day to 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.880 day life during the pandemic, the ones that have taken 0:01:55.920 --> 0:02:01.120 the most extreme measures and that have favored thetist authoritarian 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.040 point of view, are big losers in all of this. 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:09.160 And Governor Rhonda santist down in Florida is a beacon. 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.640 Dare I say the Sunshine State is a beacon of 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.080 light for the rest of the country for what is possible, 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:20.040 for what could have been in New York, in California, 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:24.760 in Illinois, in many places, and he's running with it. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.640 People have been asking me what is the future of 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:30.000 the GFP, and I keep saying, nobody knows, which I 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.920 understand is an easy answer to a very complicated question. 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:37.600 But we still have this impeachment trial of Donald Trump 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:42.120 coming up, which will definitively one way or the other 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:46.560 tell us whether he can run for office again. And 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.880 even if he were to be barred from holding office 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.200 in the future, which I don't think will happen, his 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:56.520 children will likely run for office, one or several of them. 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.560 So the Trump named, the Trump brand will continue on. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.560 But there are others that you are seeing now who 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.480 I think are going to be increasingly looked to for 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:10.160 leadership in the GOP, and Governor Rhonda Santis is at 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.520 the top of that list right now. He hasn't been 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:20.959 involved in all the election disputes and all that craziness 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.360 that happened after November. He was busy running his state 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.640 and running it quite well. And I've experienced some of this. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.560 I've made a couple of trips now down to Florida 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.320 to see what it's like to be in a place 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:37.040 where people are largely living their lives despite the pandemic. 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:41.080 And now de Santis is going even a few steps 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.680 further by saying that he's going to take actions that, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.960 let's be honest, should have been taken by Republicans when 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.520 they had a majority in the House and the Senate 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:54.360 and the Trump presidency, but they didn't. Big tech control 0:03:54.760 --> 0:04:00.640 its financial contributions to politicians, and just its overall influence 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:05.240 on our entire system is hard to overstate. And the 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.080 GOP has a lot of answers, a lot of answers 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.920 that are required at this point as to why they 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:14.320 didn't do more. Why didn't they take action when they 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.760 could have. We heard a lot of talk about Section 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:21.760 two thirty nothing was done. Well, DeSantis is doing something. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:26.120 He is pointing out. First of all, this is necessary 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:31.960 for everybody to understand. Everyone across the country needs to 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.840 know that big tech is now openly at war with 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.719 conservative ideas and speech. They're not going to ban everybody, 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.279 They're just going to ban selectively to chill the speech 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.599 of other people. You don't have to kick everybody off. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.080 You just kick off a few prominent people here and 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.159 there for their wrong think, and everyone else gets the 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.839 message and they fall in line. Desantists spoke earlier this 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.520 week about this. Here's what he said, Play thirteen. At 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.920 the turn of the twenty first century, online tech now 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:05.240 represented tools to liberate Americans from reliance on distrusted legacy 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.600 media outlets. A social media proliferated over the past decade. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.480 Citizens could directly connect with large numbers of people and 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:18.440 could cut out corporate media outlets entirely. Over the years, however, 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:22.560 these platforms have changed from neutral platforms that provided Americans 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:27.800 with the freedom to speak to enforcers of preferred narratives. Consequently, 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.400 these platforms have played an increasingly decisive role in elections 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:36.240 and have negatively impacted Americans who dissent from orthodoxy's favored 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.600 by the big tech cartel. Not allowed to break from it, 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:44.719 not allowed to say that you disagree with the dominant narrative, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.480 or else they punish you. And for people who think 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.440 that this only effects and I believe this has been 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:52.200 one of the challenges on the right because we're just 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:57.560 we're less active on a lot of these platforms our 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:02.119 people so to speak, I mean, Republican voters are far 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:07.760 outnumbered by Democrats on platforms like Twitter and Instagram, although 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.400 Instagram's catching up a bit. Facebook is where where you 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.360 would still find a lot of conservatives. But as you know, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.039 Facebook is now as bad an offender as any of 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.120 the others. But this affects you no matter what your 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.800 business is. You could run a flowers shop and you 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.120 say the wrong thing about COVID policy, and all of 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.760 a sudden you're not able. You know, your your account 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.159 is shut down. Well, if you need that account to 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.440 promote what your what your store does, you could be 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.279 put out of business pretty quickly. And if you say 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.560 the wrong thing, you could also end up getting a 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.560 pile on from social media. And they'll never stop that, right, 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.320 they won't. They won't try to prevent people from having 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.760 their lives ruined by the by the social media mop. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.159 So there's a lot of consequences even for folks in 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:52.920 their in their day to day from this, no matter 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.279 who you are, no matter what you do for a living. 0:06:56.279 --> 0:07:00.800 And this it's deeply on American. We need to understand. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.640 That's the way we should speak about this. It is 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:07.719 deeply un American for companies to suppress political speech when 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:12.240 they exist and they created themselves, I mean they were built, 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:18.080 They made they made promises around being free exchange of 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:22.360 idea platforms, so they essentially lied to us. I mean 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.960 this was all abait and switch. They said, oh no, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.360 as long as you don't do anything illegal, as long 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.080 as you're not doing something that we could all agree 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:35.000 as egregious death threats, putting illegal content online, things like that. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.000 As long as you're not doing that, we'll let you 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.920 share your ideas. Not then they changed because the little 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:45.880 woke children who run these companies now, because even though 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.920 they're not necessarily the ones at the top of the 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:53.360 org chart, they're so vehement in their ideas. I mean, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:59.280 they're so absolutely scornful of people at different points of 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.840 view that they'll just torch anyone who gets in their way, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.200 including people in their own company who try to be 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:06.800 a little bit more adult, people who try to be 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.120 a little bit more fair minded about all of this. 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:13.200 DeSantis telling everybody that cancelation can happen to anyone and 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:18.720 this needs to stop. Play fourteen Hunter Biden's story was true, Okay, 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.800 we now know was true, and the typical corporate media 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.960 outlets they just chose to ignore it. Obviously they wanted 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.760 to beat Trump, they had they had a view on 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.000 the election. They didn't want to give it any air. 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:35.320 So we rely on social media to go around that, 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.560 not let corporate legacy media outlets control the discourse and 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.440 let us speak so you had the New York Post 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.719 to run it, and you couldn't get any tracks. Shit, 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.160 you couldn't get any reach on it because Big Tech 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.400 put their thumb on the scale. So that was true 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.280 what they said at the time, Oh it was. It 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:55.360 was it's a conspiracy or it's based on hacked information. 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.520 Are you kidding me? You're trying to tell me if 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.640 there was hacked information that could damage me, you guys 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.360 wouldn't print it. Give me a break. You can whiz 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.360 on my leg, but don't tell me it's raining. You 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.559 guys would print it every single day if you could, 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.480 and Big Tech would allow it to proliferate every single 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.640 day twenty four seven. So it's not being done in 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.880 a principled basis, and it's not there's there's threats on me, 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.040 and it only gets taken down if law enforcement goes 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.640 and tells tells them to do it. Otherwise it just 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.800 stays up. They're not moderating any of that, So they 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.160 haven't done a good job in it. The thumbs always 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.200 on the scale and run one direction, and we just 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.840 need to bring we need to bring some protection for folks. 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.440 I really really worry when you have a business owner 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.280 that may rely on some of these tools to do 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.160 small business. If they engage in wrong think or they 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.559 go to the wrong political event, then all of a 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.040 sudden they can act in concert and just take take 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.640 you off. You need to have protection against that. And 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.920 he's not just speaking about this. This isn't just a 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:01.079 rhetorical thing. He's going to push for action and that 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:06.199 at the state level in Florida to protect people states. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:10.640 You know, Facebook and these other companies they're operating in Florida, 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.440 and so he wants the state legislature to start creating 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:18.120 protections in that state for your data against political discrimination. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.200 I mean, ultimately, what we really have to do is 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:26.280 wherever we can create categories or add a category of 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:31.280 political discrimination to anti discrimination law. And I know that 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.000 some people say no, but that's not. The libertarian view 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.400 is that we should people private businesses should be able 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.679 to do Yeah, but they can't and that's never going 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:43.040 to change. So we can either create protections for more 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.320 people so that we have actually some hope of being 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.840 able to win this win this political and cultural fight 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.760 over the long term of free speech, or we can 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.960 just continue to suffer and get crushed. So Desantists is 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.360 saying that they're going to start doing things in Florida. 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.839 He wants the legislature, the state legislature to go along 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.160 with this, to create protections for people from big tech. 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.120 This is the beginning of what needs to happen. People 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:10.760 ask me, how do we deal with this or what 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.440 are the next steps we need to soothe them. There 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:19.320 needs to be financial pain, or at least likely the 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.320 likely prospect of financial pain that has to happen. There 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.280 have to be consequences for the kinds of censorship, for 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.840 the overreach that we're seeing, or else they'll keep just 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.560 doing it. There was this idea, and I've been telling 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.160 you this from the very beginning. Oh, don't worry. Once 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.800 the election stuff is over, once Joe Biden's president, they're 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.800 going to let people go back to normal. No, they're not. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.480 Why would they. They got away with it. They were 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.760 able to exercise these companies in concert with the Democrats, 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:49.000 they're able to team up and exercise power. Now there 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.079 guy Joe Biden's in office. You think they're going to 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:55.160 back off? Now? You think that they really view what 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.320 they did as anything other than a huge win. No, 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.480 that's why you've got to have Republicans in places where 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.200 they do have power and control to wield it in 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:10.640 defense of liberty. Passivity when liberty is under assault is 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:14.040 not a virtue. And a lot of conservatives, i think, 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.480 have adopted this position of well, just let the market speak, 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.839 or well just let things play out and we'll see. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.000 Well we are seeing because that had been largely the approach, 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:31.000 and it is a disaster and it hurts individuals. It 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:35.959 hurts people, It ruins their livelihoods, it destroys their business models. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:41.079 I mean, they kicked Parlor off the Internet, and people 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:45.560 were cheering this on in tech circles as if somehow 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:49.080 this had achieved something. Meanwhile, Facebook was more of a 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:54.240 place where there was conspiracy hatched about the Capitol Hill riot, 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.760 but it didn't matter because they were still trying to 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:00.600 just kick off Parlor because Parlor won't play by the 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.560 actual rules, meaning whatever democrats want, those are the only 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.200 real rules. The principle is the democrats have power and 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.240 they will crush you if you don't do what they want. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:14.040 That's the only principle they buy by. Desantist knows this 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.800 and he's had an off of it. Plate twelve or 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.079 is This going to be a big fight in the 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.640 legislative session. Hopefully we'll be able to get a lot 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:24.080 of support. I think most folks do want protections for 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.080 their privacy and their data. I think most folks want 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.720 protections from being the platform. And it's not just being 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.320 banned from Twitter or something. As we've seen, these companies 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.920 can act, they can collude. They can deny you if 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.240 you're a small business of payment processing, the ability to 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.640 use email and text. So what you go to a 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.240 rally that they don't like, or you engage in wrong 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.480 think and all of a sudden, your flower business is 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:52.640 decapitated for for a month because they take action. That 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.240 is what is happening in this country. The left is 0:13:56.280 --> 0:14:02.680 a totalitarian political ideology in America right now. They don't 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.120 care that you are suffering, they don't care that you 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.040 don't have freedom. They advocate for more of this, They 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.560 demand more of this. So we can either continue to lose, 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.720 continue to be on our back, the back of our heels, 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.840 and hope that somehow they just get tired of this 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.400 and stop, or we can find ways to fight back. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:24.720 We can find ways to make these organizations and eventually, 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.920 of course these Democrat politicians. But for now, it would 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:29.960 be helpful just to make the companies that are doing 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.880 the bidding of the far left in America make them 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:37.640 stop because there's a consequence, there's a cost to what 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.760 they're doing right now, you know, the only cost is 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.680 they win, we lose. And conservatives say they're going to 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:48.960 retreat from public life. That's not the answer. You're listening 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.160 to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure you subscribe 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.120 to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.840 get your podcasts. You are correct, you remember correctly. I 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.760 do believe that this is constitutional. I think that the 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.600 Constitution sets out exhaustively what times what power the Senate 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:09.440 has to try and convict officials. It says that you 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.880 can try and convict the President of the United States, 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:17.000 not an ex president, not a private citizen. I think 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.200 that there's no jurisdiction here, to use a legal term, 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.000 The Senate just doesn't have the authority to try and 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.760 convict a private citizen. The right remedy, the Constitution makes 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.760 clear is criminal proceedings by in the criminal justice system. 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.640 If you think you've got a private citizens committed a crime, 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.960 that person, even if they are an ex president can 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.200 be tried and so forth, but the Senate does not 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:42.680 have the power to do that. Unconstitutional actions from the 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.400 Democrats now that they're in the majority in the Senate 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.120 not a surprise, or they have a day fact a 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.320 majority as you know, fifty fifty with Kamala as the 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:55.440 tying a tiebreaking vote. So there's a part of me 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.000 that's happy that they'll be making I mean, there he 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.520 head Senator Josh Holley. Party is glad they'll make this 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.280 argument because it's the right one. I mean, I think 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:05.880 they're correct and this is an abuse, but they also 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.800 because they're being forced to go to this trial. I 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:12.280 hope the people that are speaking in favor of Trump's 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:16.000 position on this will explain how this is all just 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:23.280 so disruptive, pointless, and vindictive. Now it's pointless if you're 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.680 a rational person who wants what's best for the country. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.560 If you're a Democrat who's still furious about all the 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.640 terrible things that happened with Trump, terrible things that happened 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.480 for four years under Trump's presidency, then you view this 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:39.160 as payback. It's also an attempt for the Senate Democrats 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.440 and for the Democrat Party overall to enshrine a narrative 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.760 of the insurrection, and the insurrection is going to be 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:51.560 used to bludgeon Conservatives and Republicans for years and years, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.280 if not decades to come, if we allow the narrative 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.160 to be seized in this way. Make no mistake about it. 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.200 This is one of the reasons among many that I 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.399 was so angry on the day of January sixth as 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:11.199 soon as it happened, and I made no I you 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:12.720 know how I feel if you listened to the show 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:16.440 I was. I was honestly enraged because I realized on 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.159 every level how counterproductive, how stupid, how damaging it is, 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.119 and how much it hurts the cause of conservatism and 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.359 hurts the cause of Trump and MAGA in America. First, 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:32.680 Democrats are leveraging this. This is now their primary tool 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:39.080 of ideological suppression, or their primary argument for it is 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.320 what happened on January six and now they want to 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.919 talk more about it and get into the Senate record 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.520 that Trump was part of an insurrection, He tried to 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.280 create a coup. We have to fight that on the merits, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:56.160 not just as a procedural matter. The Democrats are lying 0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:02.320 about this. This is the Fuck Sexton Show podcast. Follow 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:07.200 Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. That's a question on impeachment. 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.640 The impecient managers have now laid out their case. Trump's 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.560 team is leaving open the door, it seems to arguing 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:18.160 election fraud in the trial to repeating the false claims 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.119 that somehow Trump won the election, those same false claims 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.600 that fueled the riot. Is this administration concerned that the 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:30.160 former president's defense could incite for further violence, Well, certainly, 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:35.160 watching reactions in the country, watching the potential for violence 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.720 is something that we will do closely from the White 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.439 House across the country, no matter what prompts it. And 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.359 that's something we will certainly keep an eye on. But 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.560 you know, I think in this case, as you know, 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.119 there have been dozens and dozens of court cases that 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.480 have been debunked. The President of the United States is 0:18:56.640 --> 0:19:00.600 sitting in the Oval office, engaging and governing a country. 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:04.119 And obviously we have moved forward even more than we 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:08.320 were prior to the inauguration in proceeding in delivering on 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.800 what the American people decided on in November. Not to 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:16.159 be mean, Jen Saki is really the most eloquent communicator 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:22.000 that they could find for this role. Really okay, you 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.879 know it's the Democrats choice, but shocking that this is 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:28.800 the best choice that they could make. But anyway, there 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:30.480 must be things that we don't really know about this, 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:35.840 or maybe we do. The Trump team arguing about election 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.200 fraud would be a bad idea. I hope they don't 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.720 do it. I know that there's been some shake up 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.960 among the lawyers who were going to be defending the 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:49.480 president at this impeachment trial. You remember the last impeachment trial, 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.679 by the way, No you don't. I'm sure. I mean 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.600 you remember it happened, right, But does anyone remember the arguments? Oh? 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.199 MSNBC was they were just, oh my gosh, they were 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:01.239 all a flutter with the amaz the speeches given by 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.520 these brilliant legal theorists who are just going on and 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.320 on and people like Adam Schiff about the Constitution and 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.879 our republic and all this stuff. People don't give a 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:14.639 crap about the Constitution or a republic. Please. They're authoritarians. 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:18.400 They don't accept individual agency and human liberty. They want 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:19.760 to be in control. They want to tell you what 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.000 to do. You do this because I said so, or 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.840 I'll send big scary people with guns to make you 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:29.600 do it. That's really the Democrat mentality. And here we are. 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.440 So I hope that the president's team doesn't argue about 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:37.199 the election, because this is really not ultimately about election fraud. 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.920 This is all about They're pushing all of this around 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:45.879 the notion of Trump inciting an insurrection and whether there 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.600 whether there was fraud or not, the insurrection aspect of 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.679 it is the main line of attack, and that's going 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:54.439 to be the main line of attack against all the 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.240 rest of us. There's no way they're going to litigate 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:00.080 in court the election. I'm just telling you this, And 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.439 if you don't believe me or you're frustrated hearing this, 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:04.720 circle back with me in a couple of weeks and 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:06.400 see if I'm right. They're not going to be able 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:09.880 to present anything in court that settles the issue one 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:13.600 way or another about election fraud allegations, and it will 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.400 only play into the Democrats hands because right now it's 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.800 there were lies, the lies led to the insurrection and 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:20.879 now they're still lying about it. If they were to 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.760 present that, no, what needs to happen is they should 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:27.720 argue that the unconstitutionality of this, which I think is 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:32.399 clear and also the way that this is being exploited 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:36.480 and exaggerated. And why are Democrats so set on bringing 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:40.800 this prosecution in the Senate of the former president. It's 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:42.520 because they're trying to get as much on the record 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.720 as possible, trying to create as much noise as they 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:51.320 can around the Republican the Trump insurrection. They just want 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:53.760 this to be in big bold letters and all the 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:57.920 newspapers and then all the history books. And anytime someone 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:00.560 comes along and says, hey, I'm a conservative populist and 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:02.639 i have a vision for the future, and I'm going 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:07.040 to fight against these leftist authoritarians and I want to 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:12.080 make America a free country again, anyone who says anything 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.080 like that is going to be shouted down with, Oh, 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:19.640 he's advocating for the insurrection. Wait what, Yeah, that's right. 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:24.480 They're intentionally painting with the broadest possible brush. They're smearing people. 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.920 They're talking about MAGA terrorists. And I didn't even get 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:31.400 into this. You had another former and former CIA guy 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:33.800 writing and I don't even know where it was, writing 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:34.720 in one of the big I think it was the 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:38.040 Washington Post, about how we need to treat the Trump 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:42.880 insurrection like the ghottest insurgency global insurgency of the early 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:45.240 two thousands. So I want us all be very clearly, 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.959 as I've been saying to you, they are comparing people 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:54.760 running around inside the capital taking selfies with people who 0:22:56.640 --> 0:23:00.640 run drive planes full of civilians into buildings of civilians, 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:04.760 killing thousands of people, that decapitate people on videos, who mutilate, 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:11.560 murder and rape and pillage on levels that are truly, 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:17.320 truly horrific beyond words. They're comparing those things and saying 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:20.880 that they're the same. It's basically the same. Yeah, as 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.639 as as Tucker calls him a Chewbacca man, the guy 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.200 who's running around with the furry hat and everything inside 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.480 the capitol just like Zoehie, I mean, same same level 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:32.159