Speaker 1: Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: All right, and welcome back or welcome to another episode
Speaker 1: of the Greatest. I'm not saying quarantine addition anymore. This
Speaker 1: is what it is. No, this is now revolution edition.
Speaker 1: We are. We're in the laundry room, of course, and
Speaker 1: when we record it this time of night, the sun
Speaker 1: hits me and my eyes in a really upsetting way
Speaker 1: and so blocking it. Instead of getting a curtain or anything,
Speaker 1: we just have a giant protest poster. This is Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter that's blocking the sun. So dual purpose, but honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't want our neighbors to see it. I think
Speaker 1: our neighbors are on the right side. Okay. The voice
Speaker 1: of hearing is Megan Gaily. Yes, I'm Megan Gaily, and
Speaker 1: this is my husband and co host, c J. Toladano,
Speaker 1: And today we have a very special guest, someone we've
Speaker 1: been trying to get on the podcast, but he's busy,
Speaker 1: he works, and so now that the world has different
Speaker 1: hours and schedules, we were able to make it happen
Speaker 1: originally from d C. He's going to correct me and
Speaker 1: be more specific about what it is, and I'm happy
Speaker 1: to get into that. No one makes me more excited
Speaker 1: to see do stand up like I just love watching him. Um,
Speaker 1: one of the hosts of air Buds give it up
Speaker 1: for Jamal Johnson. Oh Jesus Louis's thanks so much. You
Speaker 1: guys are fantastic. Yeah, I forget people aren't here to class,
Speaker 1: you know, like sometimes you you piped me up? Good,
Speaker 1: good good, Okay, now I said d C. We we
Speaker 1: were talking about this when we were d m NG.
Speaker 1: Where specifically are you from. I'm from Northern Virginia, okay,
Speaker 1: which is all connected? All right, we're on the same highways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm the v and I'm from our Linington and Woodbridge,
Speaker 1: And I have to say Woodbridge because that's where I
Speaker 1: lost my virginity. But I spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: in both towns, and then I lived in d C
Speaker 1: proper for like five years too. Is that where you
Speaker 1: started stand up? Yeah? Yeah, I started in Woodbridge had
Speaker 1: Brittney's Sports Bar, which is just like it's like it's
Speaker 1: a d factory. Yeah, it's just really do you hear
Speaker 1: a woman's name attached to like a tavern? Especially? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Brittany did not fucking play Okay, they you know,
Speaker 1: Wing Night, pretty good deal, karaoke, it's going nuts early
Speaker 1: on a wild get pretty ratchet people throwing glasses in Hennessee,
Speaker 1: things of this nature. But uh, I love that place
Speaker 1: so much. And I remember I finally got it was
Speaker 1: like an open mic, and it was actually one of
Speaker 1: the better open mics in the whole area. What I
Speaker 1: found out later there would just always be a crowd
Speaker 1: like it was just it was just so far from
Speaker 1: the city, was nothing for anybody to do. And then
Speaker 1: I finally got to host it, and then I ran
Speaker 1: the show into the ground. Yeah, I killed it. It
Speaker 1: was great. I've done that with um. Yeah, listen, I
Speaker 1: honestly think the better the comedian. You are the worst.
Speaker 1: You are running shows, Yeah, because you want to do
Speaker 1: a bunch of other shows. Well yeah, you're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to do other shows. You want to run
Speaker 1: your hour between comics. I've never been a successful producer,
Speaker 1: probably actually the worst comedy producers ever. Um, did you
Speaker 1: ever do that show? Uh? Did you ever do my
Speaker 1: show at Highland Park Bowl? You must now trash? Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is, yeah, she didn't run it so much
Speaker 1: that I ended up producing it more than you. That's
Speaker 1: not true. I was like, because I can't set up
Speaker 1: lights and do I don't. That's just not you, not
Speaker 1: me either. I don't do lights either though for I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not standing on a chair. I'm not getting
Speaker 1: on no matter. Yeah, that's crazy. That's primarily how I
Speaker 1: got into it. I kind of was just good at
Speaker 1: climbing up ladders, putting up curtains. I got standing on
Speaker 1: way bar chairs. That's how I cut my teeth. Chammel
Speaker 1: and I we have bigger we want to live. You
Speaker 1: guys are good comics. You guys talk about things. Now.
Speaker 1: Why do you think I assumed you were from Maryland? Well,
Speaker 1: I guess just because I'm black. I feel like Maryland
Speaker 1: is the blacker of the three areas definitely, which I mean,
Speaker 1: at least that's how it feels, you know, in my head,
Speaker 1: But you know, it's all pretty I would. I guess
Speaker 1: we've kind of been downgraded as an area to kind
Speaker 1: of black, which is still exceptionally black, more more black
Speaker 1: than most of the country still. But oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean d C is to me the most integrated
Speaker 1: city I have ever been to in the United States.
Speaker 1: I don't New Orleans. Yeah, everybody's just drunk down. Everybody's
Speaker 1: together and d see if that's just how it that's
Speaker 1: how it felt to me. Yeah it was. And there
Speaker 1: would just be one crazy guy with the Obama is
Speaker 1: a snake van, you know what I mean. But everybody else,
Speaker 1: everybody else, it was all love. That's great. I've loved
Speaker 1: everyone that came from DC. Like, who are some alumni
Speaker 1: like comedians, athletes who were talking about who's representing your area?
Speaker 1: Adrian Danley okay? Uh, Wanda sites Chappelle, Lawrence yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: Patton Oswald claiming who else? Who else is from out there? Uh?
Speaker 1: Right now? I mean Hampton, Unt s Smith, a couple
Speaker 1: of couple of guy guys. Uh, who else? That's good.
Speaker 1: That's that's a very good crew. My brother used to
Speaker 1: work at a hookah bar in DC. I'm wondering if
Speaker 1: you ever went to it. I cannot remember what it was.
Speaker 1: I was never when I was in do you see,
Speaker 1: I wasn't a hookah bar guy. I was only a
Speaker 1: hookah bar guy when I was like eighteen and a
Speaker 1: half for for six months and then where Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just like it was like a six months. I
Speaker 1: was really into it. We would go to this Hookah
Speaker 1: bar and Woodbridge and play your excuse me? She was loved.
Speaker 1: I got it, dude. I've been seeing these like now
Speaker 1: they're making hype beast, you know cards. Have you guys
Speaker 1: gotten the Instagram ads for this? Not? What? Why do
Speaker 1: you say? Because Instagram knows that I'm not going to
Speaker 1: buy that. But Instagram as a duck. I keep getting
Speaker 1: vegan nuggets and a lot of stuff about my hair
Speaker 1: that they keep coming to ad me about my hairline.
Speaker 1: I get a lot of um It's like it's a
Speaker 1: specific filter. It's that white girl influencer filter. All my
Speaker 1: ads are like those girls in really really big hats
Speaker 1: with pants that are sinched together at the waist that time,
Speaker 1: and then bating suits with tassels everywhere. Okay, so I
Speaker 1: guess this is the big question. Have you guys ever
Speaker 1: felt compelled to buy things from Instagram? I want? I did.
Speaker 1: I bought it. I bought a thing. I bought a
Speaker 1: crazy jersey from an Instagram And yeah, okay, I want
Speaker 1: to hear. I want to talk about jerseys too. I
Speaker 1: know this is an episode, but I gotta talk about
Speaker 1: jerseys when we have you on. I mean, that's you know,
Speaker 1: fully fair and I don't want it at all. It
Speaker 1: was it's it's like some soccer team. It's like an
Speaker 1: Italian soccer team's jersey and like a like a little
Speaker 1: kid did the drawing, and it's like it's a dolphin
Speaker 1: like heading a soccer ball like that becomes a rainbow.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And then at the bottom it says,
Speaker 1: by Luigi, what, wow, that's a little I think it's
Speaker 1: a little boy. I think it's just this little boy
Speaker 1: who drew it. Wow what what? Like I thought it
Speaker 1: was like yeah, yeah, like what's sweep steaks? Like you know,
Speaker 1: they're like you, you can name our new type of pizza.
Speaker 1: But to be able to draw an entire jersey and
Speaker 1: have your name on it like that is that's beyond me.
Speaker 1: But I thought by Luigi meant like as in like
Speaker 1: by Felicia, but like you thought that was Italian by Felicia, yeah,
Speaker 1: like flash it was maybe the like the dolphin or
Speaker 1: like the dolphin opponent and then it like headed the
Speaker 1: ball for the wind and said, okay, by Luigi, it's
Speaker 1: Luigi Degustino, cerro boy from Italy. It was the team,
Speaker 1: it's it's Pistara Calcio, some Italian squad. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it's how much that Jersey run you? Oh man,
Speaker 1: it was in euros I wasn't even paying attention. Bro.
Speaker 1: I think it ended up being about it ended up
Speaker 1: being about fifty bucks. I think somewhere around. That's a deal. Instagram,
Speaker 1: I mean Instagram products, you get yourself a deal. I
Speaker 1: just bought this dad hat or the swish is a joint.
Speaker 1: It is embarrassing. And you said it was the funniest
Speaker 1: hat you've ever seen, and like, I have to be honest.
Speaker 1: The artwork isn't even that good, is It kind of
Speaker 1: looks like the thing that like Timon and Pumba squeeze
Speaker 1: juice out of to try and get Simba into their
Speaker 1: weird diet. Like it's not it doesn't even look like smoke.
Speaker 1: It's bad. Um, But I'm happy that c J. I
Speaker 1: am a sucker for like bootleg merchandise that has like
Speaker 1: funny swooshes, like they have a peanut butter and jelly
Speaker 1: one or its peanut butter and jelly but a Nike swish,
Speaker 1: did you get it? No, contemplating it's only fifteen bucks. Oh,
Speaker 1: I did buy Jordan Clarkson jersey bootleg throwback jazz jersey
Speaker 1: from a weird site thirty dollars. Should I get out
Speaker 1: of the Mountains? Yeah? Should I get this spongebobu Zeros? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because doub zeros, Like if you get like the bootleg
Speaker 1: fake doub zeros, they were already they already looked fake anyways,
Speaker 1: because it was like nine different Jordans, So I gotta
Speaker 1: show them what doub zeros are. I feel like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I truly don't care. Jamal, how are you?
Speaker 1: How are you doing? You've been cracking me up on Twitter? Thanks?
Speaker 1: That's all I have. You have a you have a
Speaker 1: way to be an activist and funny at the same time,
Speaker 1: and it's really not a departure from your stand up voice,
Speaker 1: and I think we all really really really appreciate it
Speaker 1: during this time. Well damn thanks guys. I'm gonna you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to keep giving you on some hits. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I've decided my strategy during this quarantine is
Speaker 1: to just tweet manically, like just give in to it,
Speaker 1: like just become like Harness that like Kanye, you know,
Speaker 1: and Amber Rose just broke up like like ride that.
Speaker 1: Don't deny, don't deny it, just write it. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm on my phone NonStop, so all like I'm refreshing,
Speaker 1: like I want the tweets. I don't ever like I
Speaker 1: do get that criticism from people like, hey, you tweet
Speaker 1: too much. My co workers say that it's just like
Speaker 1: I'm providing you content. I'm about a Superintendo game that
Speaker 1: you may not remember, but now you do. That's the
Speaker 1: only way you can be seen either. This is a
Speaker 1: pro tip. You have to just keep firing. If you
Speaker 1: put out one tweet, no one's gonna see it unless
Speaker 1: it's the best tweet ever. You gotta drop like ten dude,
Speaker 1: yeah it is. You know, I will retweet a arrest
Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor's killers and then and then I'll have something.
Speaker 1: You know. Yesterday a mosquito flew inside of my shorts
Speaker 1: and bit my my butt, and I was high and
Speaker 1: so I wanted to tweet man bugs or freaks um.
Speaker 1: But then I was like, I had just tweeted about
Speaker 1: wanting police brutality to end, and it's like, is that
Speaker 1: can you can you do back to back me? Curious?
Speaker 1: You just gotta pin. You just gotta pin the activism,
Speaker 1: pin the activism up, and then you can get get crazy, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean and honestly, it is a social issue. If
Speaker 1: you're trying to cancel a bug. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: cancel a bug, but it is like anyone else fly
Speaker 1: up my shorts and bite my butt. You're in big trouble,
Speaker 1: and anyone else are just one of the options. They like,
Speaker 1: you guys have penises. I have a vagina and sometimes
Speaker 1: they bite so close to my vagina and it's like,
Speaker 1: that's fucked up. Bite my foot, get out of here,
Speaker 1: so bite your foot. Can you imagine saying that to
Speaker 1: a man? Bite my Yeah, bite my foot and not
Speaker 1: my vagina, Jamal. Our number one fans are my parents,
Speaker 1: and they took issue with me mentioning my bush last week,
Speaker 1: and I'm not issue. You know, they go love the podcast.
Speaker 1: I didn't need the bush. So now I'm two weeks
Speaker 1: in a row. I'm really sorry, dad, and it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be Father's Day and his birthday. Damn it. I'll
Speaker 1: do a clean one for you grumps. Jamale. How are
Speaker 1: how are you dealing sports wise? What have you have
Speaker 1: you been getting your fix? And are you excited for
Speaker 1: the season to return. I am semi excited. Not a
Speaker 1: full not a full chub, but I gotta you know,
Speaker 1: I'm working on it. Um. If you don't make I,
Speaker 1: if you don't look at me, maybe I could get
Speaker 1: a chub. You know. That's where I am with it.
Speaker 1: And uh, other than that, I've been I was pumping
Speaker 1: a lot of old highlights early. I would uh, I
Speaker 1: would just fire up the DJ pro and then uh
Speaker 1: play a bunch of YouTube highlights and then have music
Speaker 1: in the background and then just you know, just twitch
Speaker 1: myself into an oblivion. Yeah. I was watching some of
Speaker 1: those so like there I think there was like there's
Speaker 1: like a few of us in there, and it was
Speaker 1: just soothing. Like I was just on my phone sometimes
Speaker 1: before go to bed oor Megan, We'll go to sleep early,
Speaker 1: but I'll be in the bed and I'll hook up
Speaker 1: headphones to my phone and just watch stuff. And that
Speaker 1: was like genuinely my calm app you playing highlights with
Speaker 1: like Kenny Laddermore playing over it, and then he ended up,
Speaker 1: Oh man, that was my that was just my crowning achievement.
Speaker 1: The way that song lined up with the ring Ceremony
Speaker 1: from uh, ninety six or seven whenever, the year, the
Speaker 1: beginning of the last dance year. But the ceremony, I
Speaker 1: was really proud of that because that wasn't fully intentional. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm just checking my Instagram D M S and I
Speaker 1: see that you've sent us the Dolphin jersey and it
Speaker 1: is so so I think actually what ended up happening
Speaker 1: is that this was I don't know if he drew
Speaker 1: it or Fluigi just colored it the best, but I've
Speaker 1: seen you wear this jersey too, and now I'm so
Speaker 1: happy to know the story behind it. No, you haven't.
Speaker 1: It ain't even came yet naked. It's classic. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've worn some wild I've worn some flagrant ship it's fun.
Speaker 1: What is the wildest jersey you have? The wildest jersey
Speaker 1: I have is probably a hockey jersey a a h
Speaker 1: L team called the Kentucky thorough Blades. It's a and
Speaker 1: it's like a horse. It's kind of in the color
Speaker 1: way of the old Mighty Ducks. And it's a very
Speaker 1: buff horse with skates like with a stick. You feel
Speaker 1: me that one's flag But I've one the one that's
Speaker 1: more rare than that. Shouts out to d c Stalwarth.
Speaker 1: I hope that's a good term. West Martens. My guy,
Speaker 1: this comic I came up with. He gave me his
Speaker 1: adult rec league jersey. One of the dudes on his
Speaker 1: team worked for ant Heiser Busch, so they got custom
Speaker 1: bud Ice jersey. I have a jersey. I have a
Speaker 1: bud Ice hockey jersey with a penguin on it. Who
Speaker 1: is also wearing a bud Ice hockey jersey with him
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have it's got a web feet the penguins. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he doesn't need it. He can walk on the well,
Speaker 1: you know, he's just rapping the set. Okay. I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean because I haven't gotten into hockey jerseys that
Speaker 1: much outside of like the nineties Mighty Duck stuff. But
Speaker 1: I've been looking at Cleveland Lumberjacks all stuff. It's like
Speaker 1: an old beaver. I don't know if it's HL, but
Speaker 1: it's just like a step below. Yeah. So that's I mean,
Speaker 1: there are other people like me, Megan out there that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know that. I just want to make sure that's
Speaker 1: why I want. But the thing is, I want you
Speaker 1: to sell your things to those people. I want you
Speaker 1: to start exploiting those people the way someone exploited Youkay,
Speaker 1: I've been trying to figure it out too, Bro, we
Speaker 1: gotta tea. Yeah, yeah, I mean I bought I bought
Speaker 1: that Mellow Syracuse jersey off you that's hanging up. I
Speaker 1: saw Iraq. Uh. Yeah, you you have quite the collection.
Speaker 1: And honestly, you I love how you buy obscure stuff
Speaker 1: and stuff that just genuinely makes you happy. Like that's
Speaker 1: how I also buy stuff as well. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: a jersey that's connected to a team that didn't do
Speaker 1: that great. I I'm honestly and I'm I love a deal,
Speaker 1: but I'm also inspired by failure. Love it. Should we
Speaker 1: take a quick break and then we'll come back with
Speaker 1: the topic. And we're back. So this topic, we are
Speaker 1: doing Greatest Sports Documentary, And yeah, CJ and I've been
Speaker 1: wanting to do this for a long time. And there's
Speaker 1: obviously so much talk going on about documentaries that people
Speaker 1: should watch right now thirteen, Like a lot of they're
Speaker 1: being suggested to try and get help off of the
Speaker 1: help off of the main page of Netflix. So documentaries
Speaker 1: are definitely in the cultural alexicon right now. And then
Speaker 1: I really do think that sports documentaries have a lot
Speaker 1: to say about about being black in America, as someone
Speaker 1: named Megan who's not black in America. But I have
Speaker 1: learned a lot about sports, but then also racism, classicism,
Speaker 1: Like they touched on everything. They're rarely about sports. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's where I learned everything else. Now, Jamale, we watched
Speaker 1: a non sports documentary called Comedian last night. Have you
Speaker 1: seen this film? No, I don't think so. No, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a documentary that follows Jerry Seinfeld, but then side
Speaker 1: players end up becoming Ornie Adams or Adams. Do you
Speaker 1: know Ornie Adams? I do know Adams. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: a sports documentary. This is inside the mind of a madman.
Speaker 1: Um And I don't know Ornie now. And you know what,
Speaker 1: like respect him. He's had a long career. It's came
Speaker 1: out in two thousand, two thousand and one, and like
Speaker 1: still doing those updates. I mean obviously not right, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, actually he's going to be on the line
Speaker 1: of comics. We were watching last night and I was like, this,
Speaker 1: this could count, but it's not. It's not going to.
Speaker 1: Um No, well, I just it was Comedians are mentally
Speaker 1: ill that's like every single person that sign felt included
Speaker 1: absolutely everything seemed fucking insane. I really don't take joy
Speaker 1: in watching stand up. You made me turn off us
Speaker 1: because you were too scared, and then we turned on Comedian. Whatever.
Speaker 1: We don't need to air our in front of our friends. Okay, So, Jamal,
Speaker 1: do you want to lead us off with your number
Speaker 1: three greatest sports stock of all time? M Um? Okay,
Speaker 1: and I get first pick. Yep, Damn. This is tough
Speaker 1: because don't give us your best one. We like to
Speaker 1: We like to go in a sending or like three. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give you my number three Women of Troy, the
Speaker 1: USC the eighties women's basketball. It is new and I
Speaker 1: did like it a lot, and I and I, uh,
Speaker 1: I just liked it because it was some different you know,
Speaker 1: like we just don't ever see any women's highlights ever.
Speaker 1: And we finally got some good Cheryl Miller footage, which
Speaker 1: I've been which I've been wanting since I saw her
Speaker 1: on Living Single, Bro. And so you really love women's basketball.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a huge w NBA fan. Are you
Speaker 1: a season ticket holder? No? But I have been down
Speaker 1: from the jump. I've been down from the jump, and
Speaker 1: I've really heated up since the Mystics have gotten good.
Speaker 1: It's harder when the mystics suck. Like that's the reason
Speaker 1: I don't talk about football is much because my team
Speaker 1: is bad. So having the mystics just really yeah, really
Speaker 1: ain't me up the past couple of years. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was a big fan of the comments back
Speaker 1: in the day, so seeing I didn't know that Cynthia
Speaker 1: Cooper who was also on the same college team as she,
Speaker 1: and they were fucking nasty. They just destroyed people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Cheryl Miller people talk and uh, and I
Speaker 1: don't know the women's game as well, but Cheryl Miller,
Speaker 1: they say, is probably the goat, right would you say? Megan?
Speaker 1: I mean, like the thing is though she like what
Speaker 1: she didn't playing the w n B A like did
Speaker 1: she just I know? But like how old was she
Speaker 1: wanna debut? Like did she have she just missed? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she missed it. She was out of her prime. And
Speaker 1: she also, uh she was she just came up in
Speaker 1: an era where they really didn't have like good technology
Speaker 1: or like a sports science or whatever. Because she blew
Speaker 1: her me up. Yeah, she blew her knee up at
Speaker 1: the end of her senior year when she was about
Speaker 1: to go overseas and then basically just called it quits
Speaker 1: from there. Cheryl Cooper did end up going overseas and
Speaker 1: getting a bunch of dubs, and by the time she
Speaker 1: came back, she came back. It's basically like like a
Speaker 1: second three Pete Jordan's It's like older, we didn't even
Speaker 1: see Cynthia Cooper in her prime. She was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: late twenties, early thirties, maybe rookie year, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean by the time the w n b A
Speaker 1: came around, Cheryl was probably making so much more as
Speaker 1: a commentator than you ever could as a w NBA player. Unfortunately. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's man, the inaugural season of the w n b
Speaker 1: A is hilarious as well. A lot of rookies with
Speaker 1: you never see rookies with bags under their eyes. Is
Speaker 1: that this I'm just saying, just imagine you'd like it's
Speaker 1: their eighth job, like people or you know, they played
Speaker 1: this already shortened season, super Man. They get to uh,
Speaker 1: they get to relax and train. It's just like, no,
Speaker 1: they have two to three more leagues to plan because
Speaker 1: they're trying to like all that combined is gonna be
Speaker 1: what three K like it's it's insane And do you
Speaker 1: know like loving basketball is kind of loosely based on
Speaker 1: the two of that thing that Yeah, it was usc
Speaker 1: right you played there. Um it's also a great name,
Speaker 1: Women of Troy. It just sounds badass. Um, we I
Speaker 1: have not seen it. We got it on the list
Speaker 1: for sure. Absolutely. You cry every time I send you
Speaker 1: a picture of Reggie and Cheryl. Oh, it's like my screensaver.
Speaker 1: I love them. I love them holding basketballs together, I
Speaker 1: love them hugging there there. I post pictures of them
Speaker 1: on Siblings Day. You should get Cheryl on the show.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see Jack. Gosh, you know what, I
Speaker 1: wish you hadn't taken a hit a week before we started.
Speaker 1: Why would you tell? Because you're a damn nuisance to me? Um? Okay,
Speaker 1: so great first pick? You want me to go next? Tokay? Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm actually staying within the Miller family. My third
Speaker 1: pick is winning time. Is it biased? For sure? And
Speaker 1: I think of you would That's why I didn't want
Speaker 1: to take it off the board. Get get you, get yours.
Speaker 1: That's so, so, so sweet. I mean absolutely, thirty for
Speaker 1: thirties have revolutionized the sports documentary field like that. We
Speaker 1: could we could do an episode just great as thirty
Speaker 1: for thirties. They are incredible. It's so great that ESPN
Speaker 1: has outsourced them and doesn't really do them and they
Speaker 1: leave it up to the people that are like more
Speaker 1: talented at that. And so whenever someone has never seen
Speaker 1: a thirty for thirty, this is the one I always recommend.
Speaker 1: I think it's funny, it obviously has drama, it has villains,
Speaker 1: it has heroes, like it's just so good, and it
Speaker 1: is obviously really targeted in on me. It's like it's
Speaker 1: my childhood. It's it's one tenth of what the Jordan's
Speaker 1: Dock was. It's it's my version of that. It's just
Speaker 1: a slipper. Honestly, I would say it's better than the
Speaker 1: last time, so we could talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just thinking back, but Winning Time is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite I don't have my list, but
Speaker 1: like it is maybe the fun is documentary like people,
Speaker 1: it's a comedy, it's suspensible, it's heartbreak like I used
Speaker 1: to when I first watched that for the first couple
Speaker 1: of times, like I would go to bed sad for
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing. Um, it was the first time I liked
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller. It was, you know, the comedic timing and
Speaker 1: pacing of it, like and it's so quotable, like the
Speaker 1: presence of Mind like Spike Lee. And I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't want to I'm not trying to dis Indianapolis, but
Speaker 1: it was kind of like that series was racially charged. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's the documentary starts with them interviewing a
Speaker 1: bunch of white people that are mad the Pacers didn't
Speaker 1: draft Steve Alford. Um, So yeah, it definitely is is
Speaker 1: it tough? Look? The Last Dance gave us another tough look.
Speaker 1: So rarely our documentaries funny, Like I feel like the
Speaker 1: documentaries that I'm really drawn to are like you learned something,
Speaker 1: You're devastating, there's no community, No, it's just Reggie Miller
Speaker 1: is funny and the way he antagonizes people is hilarious. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. And when I tell people to watch it,
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, this is so good. You don't
Speaker 1: have to like sports to be into this documentary at all.
Speaker 1: So it's my third pick, Okay, C J. You give
Speaker 1: us your third my third pick undefeated two thousand eleven. Sorry,
Speaker 1: have you seen this, Jamal? No? Oh my gosh, this
Speaker 1: is like this is another one of those docs from
Speaker 1: like you don't have to know sports. It won It
Speaker 1: won an OSCAR for Best Documentary Documentary Feature, not Best
Speaker 1: Sports Documentary. It won Best Documentary. And I saw it
Speaker 1: on accident, just like I was skipping class when I
Speaker 1: was in Chicago, and it is this story about this
Speaker 1: inner city Memphis team always been a loser, Uh don't
Speaker 1: they don't have equipment is And so it was directed
Speaker 1: by these two guys, Daniel Lindsay and T. J. Martin,
Speaker 1: and they were just kind of like these videographers that
Speaker 1: were sent on an assignment to go and get footage
Speaker 1: of this really fast, huge lineman. His name was O. C. Brown.
Speaker 1: Like they're like, oh, this guy is gonna be in
Speaker 1: the NFL, Like, let's go catch catch him early. So
Speaker 1: they went down there and then this story wasn't veiled
Speaker 1: of just like or this like cast of characters from
Speaker 1: this just like you know your classic white Uh coach
Speaker 1: owns a construction business. His name is Coach Courtney, and
Speaker 1: you would think this dude is like super republican, but
Speaker 1: you find out he's just like this great inspirational leader
Speaker 1: who gets through to like these just like knuckle heads.
Speaker 1: There's just like an underdog in it. And there's also yeah,
Speaker 1: the high School phenomen Um produced by Puff Daddy and
Speaker 1: the guy who made King of Kong, and it's it
Speaker 1: has that all the elements of it's funny, suspenseful. There's
Speaker 1: a scene in it that breaking one of the most
Speaker 1: moving things I've ever seen. And when like undefeated, without undefeated,
Speaker 1: there is no last chance to you, and there is
Speaker 1: no cheer like it is. It is the direct results,
Speaker 1: like it is the reason that those got made because
Speaker 1: and they didn't steal the playbook from them. But it's
Speaker 1: just like, oh, people like this kind of thing, then
Speaker 1: let's keep making it because it is so moving and
Speaker 1: so beautiful. Um yeah, it's it was my number two.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it so and honestly, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like a genre and it's a sports talk not
Speaker 1: about this very important on the surface team. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean one of the kids, he's not big enough, but
Speaker 1: he plays the line. His name is Money Brown, and
Speaker 1: so it's like after a practice and they follow him
Speaker 1: back to his house and he introduces the camera crew
Speaker 1: to his turtle. Uh. And it's just I don't want
Speaker 1: to spoil any more of it, but you know, I
Speaker 1: bet you'd love it, like yeah, I mean, and I'm
Speaker 1: not even saying you would, like everybody would love it.
Speaker 1: It's just a it's a beautiful, beautiful film. Yeah, great, great,
Speaker 1: thank you. Okay, well no, let's just keep going to
Speaker 1: keep going. Jame, give us my number second pick um
Speaker 1: when we were Kings. Oh yeah, beautiful Ali Verse Foreman
Speaker 1: Rumble in the Jungle. You watched it the other night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was trying to get Megan to watch it a
Speaker 1: little bit, but yeah, you gotta watch him getting just
Speaker 1: everything about that. I mean, you see Foreman before he
Speaker 1: is like who we know of him today, Like it's
Speaker 1: insane that he was kind of like this Ivan Drago
Speaker 1: dude back then. And then just and then you're just
Speaker 1: watching it realize, oh, Ali was maybe the greatest all
Speaker 1: around athletes of all time, Like no one's close. I
Speaker 1: know all did Man and he's so and he's so
Speaker 1: um it's not funny, but it's it's this he like
Speaker 1: captures you. Those are fireworks that they're setting off in
Speaker 1: broad daylight. Um, he you are just like, what is
Speaker 1: he gonna say? What is he gonna do? Where is
Speaker 1: he going to go? Your eye just goes to him,
Speaker 1: Like even when you see him fighting George Foreman, who
Speaker 1: is so fa. I mean, we love him, we love
Speaker 1: his grill, we love all of his work. But you
Speaker 1: see the two of them and it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali is a king. He is he's a legend,
Speaker 1: He's a he's a god. And that was about all
Speaker 1: those guys kind of that title. The part them being
Speaker 1: in the country is so interesting, Like, yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: a very compelling story that they tell in a really
Speaker 1: great way. What's your favorite scene from it? Jamal Dude,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to while I do,
Speaker 1: just know it's super important. It's just yeah, it's so important.
Speaker 1: I mean the one yeah. I mean, if you've watched
Speaker 1: all the Rocky movies and then you watch that, you go, oh,
Speaker 1: so they just so the Rocky movies just took the
Speaker 1: greatest hits from when we were kings. That's how important
Speaker 1: it was, like, and it was just document in real life,
Speaker 1: and then Rocky and Creed were like, oh, let's just
Speaker 1: do the training training montage from when we were kings,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, wow, I love this is my favorite.
Speaker 1: Let's just make him white, you know. Yeah that's uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm glad it swung back through the creed to Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan's no, because this is an honorary spot. I really
Speaker 1: wanted to say, um, you guys know, do you do
Speaker 1: you count skateboarding as a sport? Here? Yes? Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you know yeah, I mean all that Spike Jones ship
Speaker 1: I counted and I love Yeah. Right is TikTok thirty
Speaker 1: years before TikTok? For sure? It is, Megan, I've you
Speaker 1: ever seen the footage of the skateboards without people on them,
Speaker 1: like doing like, I don't think it's skateboarding really spot
Speaker 1: in my life, they did, they were doing TikTok. It's
Speaker 1: but you would like this one, especially Megan, because the
Speaker 1: first part, this guy Brandon Bieble uh does a kick
Speaker 1: flip in a Peyton Manning jersey over over a traffic barrier.
Speaker 1: It's like the it's like the second trick. And then
Speaker 1: like Owen Wilson appears and you're like, damn, when Wilson
Speaker 1: is just hanging out with you, does he skateboard I
Speaker 1: think like a little bit, but like his famous scene
Speaker 1: is like him talking about all these intricate moves that
Speaker 1: he did, but he did not he just Wilson. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he's Ornie Adams of this. Skateboarders are the most
Speaker 1: like mentally together. I think that's like he's the opposite
Speaker 1: or Okay, interesting, Jamal, that was a great Uh you
Speaker 1: you did two picks and I love that. I just
Speaker 1: kind of doubled up. Yeah, do whatever you want. Um
Speaker 1: my number two pick was going to be undefeated, and
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna so been one of my honorable mentions
Speaker 1: that I also feel passionately about, and that is Benji
Speaker 1: Ben He's a great one. Chicago. It's just it's really,
Speaker 1: it's so devastating. Um, it's one of the saddest sports stories.
Speaker 1: It's based on Ben Wilson. Why are basketball stories so
Speaker 1: fucking sad? Yeah? Yeah, I mean this one is particularly
Speaker 1: sad because besides him him being shot for no reason,
Speaker 1: he then also was taken to a hospital that didn't
Speaker 1: have the correct trauma unit, and it was so egregious
Speaker 1: that there's now a law in his honor that you
Speaker 1: if you have a certain type of wound you have
Speaker 1: to be taken to a certain type of hospital. Like
Speaker 1: if he had been taken to the right place, he
Speaker 1: wouldn't have died. And so that's so sad. And the
Speaker 1: and the guy who shot him has become extremely reformed
Speaker 1: and then leads this questions about gun violence and gangs.
Speaker 1: You know. So obviously a positive outcome in his life
Speaker 1: came out of it. But Ben Wilson was supposed to
Speaker 1: be the next you know, and was killed at seventeen.
Speaker 1: I love the documentary because it is so moving. But
Speaker 1: they utilize cartoons and that's kind of how they do
Speaker 1: the flashbacks, and you can tell it's really like a
Speaker 1: celebration of like black artists from Chicago and Chicago and
Speaker 1: and like it. I mean, R Kelly is from Chicago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, he's known as he plays. He's pretty good
Speaker 1: at basketball from what I heard. But yeah, no, it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to talk about some of these things and
Speaker 1: realize he was involved again. Comedian last night, Big Cosby
Speaker 1: Chunk in there. Oh yeah, that was tough. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's really I mean, yeah, this
Speaker 1: document was made in two thousands. Well let's get R
Speaker 1: Kelly in there. You know that no, I it was
Speaker 1: it did something because when I was watching it, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously not a lot of us knew about the Benji story,
Speaker 1: and like I just you know, Derek Rose had talked
Speaker 1: about him a lot in his first few years, his
Speaker 1: career whatever. But then there's that like twist or that
Speaker 1: moment where you think the story is over and then
Speaker 1: they start interviewing the guy. Well he said then a guy,
Speaker 1: but he was a kid when he shot Yeah, Benji,
Speaker 1: And no way was it justified ever, but you and
Speaker 1: he explains it and you understand how it happened, and like,
Speaker 1: I've never seen that, I've like never seen that in
Speaker 1: a in a movie where you know, he's he's in
Speaker 1: jail and he's reformed and he's like, I was a
Speaker 1: kid and now he's trying to reach out to kids
Speaker 1: who I think that's what you resort to and in
Speaker 1: altercations and it's yeah, it's really intense and great. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's my number two. That's a great one. Okay, c J.
Speaker 1: You want to give us your number. Yeah. Another devastating
Speaker 1: one Lenny Cook, directed by the Safty Brothers, which I
Speaker 1: feel like just doesn't get enough talk. No Lenny Cook, No, no,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen this one, oh man. So this is
Speaker 1: directed by the Safty Brothers and Sime Showtime. I believe
Speaker 1: some of the NBA players who funded it were Joe
Speaker 1: Kim No Uh, Carmelo Anthony. But this is the story
Speaker 1: of Lenny Cook, who was ranked ahead of Lebron and
Speaker 1: Mellow and Chris Bosh and Noah at abc D camp
Speaker 1: UM and was expected to go number one and his
Speaker 1: fall from grace. Like again we talked about he was
Speaker 1: Lebron like he was in Lebron's class and on several
Speaker 1: lists was ranked higher and they started following Um sort
Speaker 1: of in his prime. And it has like the blindside elements.
Speaker 1: He went and lived with a wealthy what's up. It
Speaker 1: almost feels like it was like inside gone wrong, Like
Speaker 1: he got a white family and they were I think. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, she admits the the mom who who took
Speaker 1: him in, like admits to letting him slide a little
Speaker 1: too much. Um. I mean, you see the battles at
Speaker 1: abc D camp, which was just like legendary for you know,
Speaker 1: seeing those high school prospects UM and you you watch
Speaker 1: him watch the draft and he's he's watching Kwamie Brown
Speaker 1: get drafted and then he's like eating McDonald's and he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be me next year. Uh. And then you
Speaker 1: see him go to Vegas for the first time for
Speaker 1: a tournament and he's getting, you know, into trouble with girls,
Speaker 1: see agents trying to like corrupt his life already. Um
Speaker 1: and the downfall again. I don't want to spoil much,
Speaker 1: but there's just one scene where so there's the footage
Speaker 1: that they filmed of him in high school and a
Speaker 1: little bit of college. But then it's then half the
Speaker 1: movie is present day and you see what he's become
Speaker 1: and what his life is now, and then he's like
Speaker 1: checking in with the other pro players like Joe Kieman, Lebron,
Speaker 1: all these guys, and it's it's devastating and there's but
Speaker 1: there's little pockets of like hope in there, I think.
Speaker 1: But then also directed and with a little bit like
Speaker 1: you know of Safty Brothers Twist. Yeah, it one of
Speaker 1: the best endings. It's very it's moving. It's good. I
Speaker 1: feel like now that we're giving our list seg and
Speaker 1: I've just seen all the same movies because c J
Speaker 1: makes me watch anything he likes, like, you showed me
Speaker 1: undefeated and Lenny, yeah, I'm Jamal. We were. Jamal hasn't
Speaker 1: seen these. I like, I want you to go and
Speaker 1: watch season and report that I needed. I needed some
Speaker 1: new shift anyway. I've been watching Madam Secretary and I
Speaker 1: needed some new My dad says, best show on TV.
Speaker 1: There you go, bestow on Megan. Madam Secretary is low key,
Speaker 1: kind of fire. Very quickly, before we get to our
Speaker 1: number one picks, Um, I wanted to talk about what
Speaker 1: did you think of the last dance overall after a
Speaker 1: few weeks have gone by. UM thought it was good.
Speaker 1: I wish they didn't rush to put it out considering
Speaker 1: we don't have anything to watch anyway, but I am
Speaker 1: very glad I got to watch it, and uh, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: it's it's the Jordan doc. It's not exactly the Dock
Speaker 1: of the Bulls, and that's fine. It turns out, you know,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's pretty interesting dude, and kind of the bulls
Speaker 1: he is, you know if you're gonna yeah, I've said
Speaker 1: this before. It definitely changed my opinion of Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: I just like wanted to hate him so much, just
Speaker 1: because he beat the pacers all the time, um, and
Speaker 1: in such heartbreaking fashion. But it really endeared me to him.
Speaker 1: And I'm so happy that I have my birthday twin
Speaker 1: to cele it right now. But yeah, there was definitely
Speaker 1: times where I was like, where are we What's going on?
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people do not like the
Speaker 1: timeline jumps. Um, it didn't fully bother me. I get
Speaker 1: why they did it, but it wasn't my favorite part either.
Speaker 1: I like the time lad jump. If we're if we're
Speaker 1: just conceiding that this is gonna be about Mike, you
Speaker 1: might as well run it all, which I you know,
Speaker 1: I did not mind. Actually, I like Mike look weird
Speaker 1: and uncomfortable. Yeah. Oh I wanted all of that too.
Speaker 1: I think they just could have done it in chronological order. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I just you know what, I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: that too, because I had issues with that, but I
Speaker 1: just didn't think they had the footage to do it,
Speaker 1: because it would have been like episode one, nineties seven
Speaker 1: and then gotcha. But yeah, I mean Rob Hayes, uh
Speaker 1: Me and Rob Hayes were talking about how if you're
Speaker 1: like a die hard, it's not it's almost not for
Speaker 1: you or you can find too many inaccuracies, like a
Speaker 1: lot of the music to just didn't line up. But
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know what, we're nerds, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just having phone We're just having a fun time,
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm cool with that. Uh. I liked that.
Speaker 1: Um it seemed like people didn't really like Mike, like
Speaker 1: the team like he's like Mike's cracking jokes and nobody's
Speaker 1: really laughing. Yeah, you know, a little ship like that
Speaker 1: was very interesting. I mean, were they scared me? Like
Speaker 1: he seemed from watching it, I was like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: less mean than I thought he was going to be. Like,
Speaker 1: I was like, he seems actually like pretty charismatic and fun.
Speaker 1: Now we didn't see the physical altercations that happened in practice,
Speaker 1: and to them when it's like it's it's all the footage,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well can we see him punch Steve Kerr?
Speaker 1: Like that's then we're talking about all the footage. So
Speaker 1: he came out like when you hear those reports of like, oh,
Speaker 1: Mike is like, no one's gonna like me, no one's
Speaker 1: gonna like me after they see this, and then you
Speaker 1: see it and you're like No, you've actually seemed like
Speaker 1: hot and cool. I don't know why, but what happened
Speaker 1: to Luke? No, Luke longly like, yeah, there's people were
Speaker 1: of course he wronged Mike in some way. He like
Speaker 1: he probably said like Stacy Agman's name out loud. He's like,
Speaker 1: Stacy played well tonight, right, Mike, and Michael just like
Speaker 1: canceled him in his brain. Don't yeah, you're talking about
Speaker 1: Stacy Agman. You only talk about Michael Jordan's Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make you Stacy Aman. I don't even know who
Speaker 1: this is. Yeah, just like just a throwback shooting guards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right back with her number one picks? All right, and
Speaker 1: we're back, So jamale how it works as Megan and
Speaker 1: I will give ours and you'll be the big finale.
Speaker 1: All right, Megan number one, so my number one. Neither
Speaker 1: of you may have seen this. Um, it's my absolute
Speaker 1: favorite documentary of any kind. It changed how I viewed
Speaker 1: the world entirely. It is called Schooled The Price of
Speaker 1: College Sports. It came out in two thousand and thirteen.
Speaker 1: It was directed by Trevor Martin, not our friend. UM,
Speaker 1: I guess there's more than one white man named Trevor
Speaker 1: Martin in the World and Ross Finkel. It's it basically
Speaker 1: takes a look at the exploitation that the n C
Speaker 1: double A has and it's no coincidence that the most
Speaker 1: exploited people of that system are black men. And it's
Speaker 1: so it's it's sonny of Sonny of a Caro is
Speaker 1: that he is in it. He he definitely talks about
Speaker 1: like how he regrets making the shoe deal. Arian Foster
Speaker 1: is heavily featured in it. I think he was part
Speaker 1: of maybe even producing it, and he was basically blacklisted
Speaker 1: by the n C Double A and that's why he
Speaker 1: fell so far in the draft despite being an amazing
Speaker 1: running back in college. Yeah, I mean, college sports are
Speaker 1: a twelve billion dollar industry that only rises every year,
Speaker 1: and the most profitable sports and people that make the
Speaker 1: most profit or are providing the most profit are paid nothing.
Speaker 1: So it really like if you are on the fence,
Speaker 1: so like I don't know, nothing is better than a
Speaker 1: free education. You have to watch this documentary. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's extremely relevant with what is happening in
Speaker 1: our country right now. It would be very very eye opening.
Speaker 1: It's it's devastating. They just ruined people's lives just because
Speaker 1: they can, and it's so fucked up. But this this
Speaker 1: really like shows the people that are fighting for it,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's a it's a really I think it's
Speaker 1: just so well done and I wish more people had
Speaker 1: seen it. I haven't seen and any of these and
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm with the concept, and I think fucking
Speaker 1: any of the big sports should just not even be
Speaker 1: in college. The best, the biggest sport in college should
Speaker 1: be fucking lacrosse. If y'all want to add all fucking
Speaker 1: snooty like that and then ruin them like kids lives, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it ends up showing that, like
Speaker 1: the highest paid person in every single state is a
Speaker 1: college football coach. Yeah, it's really which is dumb. They
Speaker 1: were fucking they were visors around, I know, I know. Well,
Speaker 1: And then this ended up having some amount of controversy
Speaker 1: around it because in one of the clips, Arian Foster
Speaker 1: like I think confesses to letting a coach by him
Speaker 1: pizza at one point in college because he had no money,
Speaker 1: and the n C double a like got mad about that.
Speaker 1: When this video and when this film came out, and
Speaker 1: it's like, no, you you are exploiting and robbing. Yeah, now,
Speaker 1: especially every thing we know with C t E. It's like,
Speaker 1: if you're playing college football, you are also putting your
Speaker 1: life at risk. You have to be compensated for that,
Speaker 1: and I know the Sate of California is pushing for that.
Speaker 1: I hope we're big enough and rich enough and have
Speaker 1: enough schools that we can push that through for the
Speaker 1: rest of the country. Yeah, the Reggie, but like this
Speaker 1: happened Yester? Was it yesterday? I mean, I can't wave
Speaker 1: this is a news like, I can't weave this existed.
Speaker 1: A school disassociate so they forget that a player maybe
Speaker 1: the greatest n c A running back of all time.
Speaker 1: And the USC was just like, oh, we're gonna forget
Speaker 1: on it because because why, like what were the specific
Speaker 1: I think he did he get a house? Something like that,
Speaker 1: he deserves the house? Are you insane? His mom deserves
Speaker 1: the house. Like the amount of money in like that
Speaker 1: that USC football team was a NFL team that was
Speaker 1: like the amount of money they were reading is insane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really. They end up showing like a guy's whole
Speaker 1: career being ruined because he got too much help on
Speaker 1: a paper like they like pick and choose what they
Speaker 1: what they get angry about. And it's what's nice is
Speaker 1: a lot of these sanctions are coming down in college
Speaker 1: basketball and they're just kind of like, we don't care
Speaker 1: about you, it seems. And I hope this is what happens,
Speaker 1: is that people will just start to ignore the n
Speaker 1: C Double A because it is a monopoly, which is
Speaker 1: illegal in our country, but some psychopaths set it up
Speaker 1: to be fine that way. It's just yeah, it's really
Speaker 1: it's basically the history of the n C Double A
Speaker 1: and then how it turned out to be evil what
Speaker 1: we see today. They're gonna make a sequel now now
Speaker 1: that like the NBA guys are going to the G
Speaker 1: League going oversea, like LaMelo is about to be. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be great and to go, I mean
Speaker 1: despite LaVar, people thinking LaVar is crazy, like he took
Speaker 1: an alternative route, and I think it's going to pay
Speaker 1: off the team he played for, and then that could
Speaker 1: that could just break down the whole system or you'll
Speaker 1: you'll see it start to bring pay Yeah, yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Do you have um honorable mentions? Uh o
Speaker 1: J made in America? And then also this, this one
Speaker 1: was on every single Greatest lista I had seen, so
Speaker 1: I watched it today and they don't do It's called Senna.
Speaker 1: It's about a Formula One driver who was like tragically
Speaker 1: killed and it is very, very beautifully shot, and I
Speaker 1: would recommend it. Oh and I forgot race car drivers
Speaker 1: are so hot, Like wow. C J. Walked in and
Speaker 1: was like he's ugly, and I'm like, he is so hot,
Speaker 1: and you are mad how hot he is in our
Speaker 1: house right now? No, he was Brazilian and he was
Speaker 1: so fine and he never got married. And at his funeral,
Speaker 1: all these models are coming up and crying on his
Speaker 1: casket and it's like, good for you, dog, that's awesome. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a real quick, easy simple hoop Dreams.
Speaker 1: Directed by Steve James. The story Arthur ag and William Gates,
Speaker 1: West Side of Chicago, their their journey through high school
Speaker 1: and what becomes of them. I still follow Arthur A.
Speaker 1: G on Twitter. He travels the world given lectures and
Speaker 1: William Gates, I think I forget what happened to him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, beautiful it started. It was like it was
Speaker 1: an innovative film. Yeah, that's a great pick. Yeah, probably
Speaker 1: one probably the most famous was famous and i'd say
Speaker 1: top one of your movies. Wow, okay, great, yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: short and sweet. Any honorable mentions from you? Gunn in
Speaker 1: for that number one spot? Uh? Directed by one of
Speaker 1: the Beastie Boys. It's about twenty four the best high
Speaker 1: school players come and play at Rucker No Ruck Rucker Park.
Speaker 1: Um and that one's great. Check that out basketball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kevin loves in it of and Jennings is a lot
Speaker 1: of players that you would know. All right, Okay, Jamal,
Speaker 1: you're ready to bring us home? Yes? My number one?
Speaker 1: Another new one, the Diego Maradonna doc. Yeah on HBO.
Speaker 1: Holy fucking shit. It's it's about like his fall from grace. Okay,
Speaker 1: you kind of they throw you into like he's out
Speaker 1: of Argentina, he's left Barcelona and he blew his ankle up.
Speaker 1: And the documentary starts when he goes to Napoli, this
Speaker 1: team in Italy, the worst team in Italy and the
Speaker 1: like the the most disrespected city in the country, which
Speaker 1: is the most racist country, possibly of all the countries.
Speaker 1: And they're uh yeah, it just follows him like taking
Speaker 1: this team from last to being the best team in
Speaker 1: Europe and how the mob basically got him hooked on
Speaker 1: cocaine and uh and he's like he's catching drug traffic.
Speaker 1: You can charge is and uh you know a couple
Speaker 1: uh couple I legitimate babies in the mix. A lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of shots to him shaking it up
Speaker 1: in the club with a silk shirt on. Uh. Man,
Speaker 1: this documentary has it all. Uh. And and they got
Speaker 1: it in droves for you. Yeah, that one kept popping up.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so hard headed about I just gotta
Speaker 1: watch other sports, Watch other sports, honey. But in Maradonna
Speaker 1: is such like a recognizable name and I knew nothing
Speaker 1: about I didn't no idea that that's no, I did
Speaker 1: not know that the mob got him hooked on drugs, Like,
Speaker 1: and what was the reason for that? We're talking Naples mob.
Speaker 1: This is not this is not Gandalfeene, mom, this is
Speaker 1: like the original the birthplace of mo. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: some Like he's really in with the mob and this joint.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man. And also with the mob, well you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm sure they played a role in him coming
Speaker 1: to Italy because Italy was like the biggest soccer league
Speaker 1: at the time, and as a lot of people know,
Speaker 1: pretty corrupt, a lot of mob guys got a lot
Speaker 1: of money tied up with a lot of teams out there.
Speaker 1: So he's out there and as the team is getting bigger,
Speaker 1: like people are literally calling this dude god on the streets,
Speaker 1: like they're painting him with saints, like they got the
Speaker 1: Virgin Mary, like holding him like a baby, like yo,
Speaker 1: he was on some like beyond like bigger than Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson in Naples. In Naples. That's crazy. Yeah. I was
Speaker 1: about to say, that's like Kobe, like here in l A,
Speaker 1: you turn as a Kobe exactly damn. But then imagine
Speaker 1: like yeah, then they like turn on him. Though you know,
Speaker 1: it goes it all goes bad. It's got, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a pretty it's long, and you gotta read subtitles,
Speaker 1: which sucks. But but to me that if you if
Speaker 1: you have to read and it's long, then it's a
Speaker 1: good documentary. Okay, that sounds I love that. Like we
Speaker 1: all walked away with a little homework too. We almost
Speaker 1: need to do a follow up episode where it's like
Speaker 1: I watched I've watched the ones that you've suggested. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I always this is like I we gotta all keep
Speaker 1: sports docks like a in our notes of just because
Speaker 1: they pop up all the time. And I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, I want to see that. There's some
Speaker 1: real trash ones that I get. Yea, yeah, there's definitely
Speaker 1: you guys. Ever seen the U one? Of course you
Speaker 1: have them? Yeah, there's two of them. Yeah, yeah, you know. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: let maybe I need to rewatch it and revisit it.
Speaker 1: But I swear when I watched it, I got a
Speaker 1: sort of uh inter team sex scandal vibe. I feel
Speaker 1: like some dudes in Miami were definitely having sex with
Speaker 1: each other and it was a part of the thing.
Speaker 1: And it's like, give us that documentary, give us that
Speaker 1: take us behind. Yeah, it's some with documenties, you really like,
Speaker 1: I'm so it's not even gullible. I'm just so quick
Speaker 1: to be on whoever side, Like you could show me
Speaker 1: a documentary like put them all in jail, and then
Speaker 1: I could watch the flip side one and be like
Speaker 1: put them and like, I'm swede so easily that you
Speaker 1: really have to look at who is behind it. The
Speaker 1: xfl one was like created, it was it was directed
Speaker 1: and epied by the Sun like Dick Evers whols Son
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, you can't make a documentary about
Speaker 1: your dad where there's cheer leaders being like, we love
Speaker 1: to fund the players. It's like, get this trash out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: conveniently when the new XFL was going to come back.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. It's like, I think we're
Speaker 1: getting better at sniffing out the purpose of these documentaries
Speaker 1: being made. Yeah. Oh, that Firefest one was so interesting
Speaker 1: because everyone was like, I like the Hulu one better.
Speaker 1: I liked and then it was like, okay, but that
Speaker 1: one was made by one of them, was made by
Speaker 1: the Firefest guy, and so then I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't like that one any more. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess you brainwash. People could just make a documentary
Speaker 1: to make yourself look the best you can look, too,
Speaker 1: which is kind of an issue people had with the
Speaker 1: Last Dance. It's like we're seeing what Jordan's wants us
Speaker 1: to see to some extent. I mean, although I feel
Speaker 1: like it's made him a better person in the end,
Speaker 1: like he's like, oh, eyes are back on me up.
Speaker 1: You know, he hasn't like and they talked a little
Speaker 1: shit on him. I think it was good. I think
Speaker 1: he was too occupied with retired life to really like
Speaker 1: keep control of that. Doc. Call me a little silly pie,
Speaker 1: but I would love to see him and Isaiah become friends.
Speaker 1: I think it would be sweet and fun. Two people.
Speaker 1: I used to really dislike both of them, but it's
Speaker 1: just like, come on, guys, you're old. If Isaiah wasn't
Speaker 1: from Chicago, they'd be friends already. Yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. There's saltinus on both sides. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's saltiness on both sides. And Michael Jordan the saltiest man.
Speaker 1: Yeah there. Yeah, there's wild that there is no salty nickname.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that reputation is only recent, but yeah,
Speaker 1: there should be some sort of salty nickname. But all brainstorm.
Speaker 1: I'll bring it back on the on the next episode. Jamale,
Speaker 1: you got anything to plug? I I loved your episode
Speaker 1: of Airbuds that you did with Clark Jones and Carl Tart,
Speaker 1: so I recommend that for all of our listeners. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Airbuds pod is still firing, and Jamale Johnson
Speaker 1: dot Com I got some new stand up on their
Speaker 1: quarantine filtered stand up for you guys. Yeah, wait, quickly
Speaker 1: give the premise of your special, which I loved and
Speaker 1: bought off Enmo. Okay, oh ship, thanks dude. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's called Friend or Foe and uh it's basically me
Speaker 1: kind of just like a loan no no, laughs, it's
Speaker 1: just me telling jokes into a void. And you know
Speaker 1: it's do you know that through the magic of editing,
Speaker 1: because it was It's an old tape that I just
Speaker 1: had and around and we've been locked in the house
Speaker 1: for about a month and like, I'm just sitting on
Speaker 1: this fucking thing and and people have like tapes that
Speaker 1: are okay all the time, and like people add laughs.
Speaker 1: I was like, what if I just removed him? Well,
Speaker 1: it's really good. People. Check that out. You can check
Speaker 1: out my stuff at CJ Toldonna on Twitter and I
Speaker 1: met Megan Gaily on Twitter. Jamal, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for being here with us today. And yeah, thank you
Speaker 1: guys for listening. Please rate and subscribe and and do
Speaker 1: all the people have been sending us suggestions for episodes.
Speaker 1: I love that. Keep that up. And for the record,
Speaker 1: for the record, I I have seen when We're King,
Speaker 1: when we were Kings. Okay, it's just has been a while.
Speaker 1: I don't want to come off like I'm some sort
Speaker 1: of knob. I was just really high in my favorite
Speaker 1: part any time Joe Frasier comes. Joe Frasier, his interactions
Speaker 1: with Joe Fraser and Howard Coastal are the best. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you thought on that. That is beautiful. Um,
Speaker 1: no one would have come for you. They really just
Speaker 1: come for CJ and my relationship. Work on everything. You know,
Speaker 1: you are black excellence. Yeah, Jamale, thank you so much. Yeah, rate, listen, subscribe,
Speaker 1: be safe, be well, wear a mask if you're so inclined.
Speaker 1: CJ's phone is fucking blowing, all right. Happy birthday Mom,
Speaker 1: Happy birthday Dad. You can't even post pictures without a
Speaker 1: mask on. And I posted an old picture of me
Speaker 1: without a mask on and people came from me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to be like this was pre corant cret real.
Speaker 1: There's like a lot of steps you have to go
Speaker 1: through so people are not angry with you for sure.
Speaker 1: But your happy birthday to Megan's dad, my bad. Keep going.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Gooky, Happy birthday Grumps. Okay, and we'll see
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