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Speaker 1: It's Around the NFL. Dan Hands is here, Heroes with Me,

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Speaker 1: Mark Cecily, Greg Rosenthal, Colleen Wolf and it is Uh,

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Speaker 1: we touched on it maybe a little bit on the

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to be exclusionary with that, Greggy. If

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Speaker 1: A lot to get to today, Um, we have without

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Speaker 1: friend Jake. Alright, Drake, excuse me, alrighty. We were reporting

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Speaker 1: Are we familiar to all with NFL network around the NFL? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I do not. I don't Justin. No, no grave digger?

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Speaker 1: stopped coming and they are in desperate straits as they

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Speaker 1: welcome in Jacksonville. Mark, I'll start with you on this one.

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Speaker 1: It was announced officially that Zack Wilson will again start

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Speaker 1: for the Jets, as as Mike White and that rib

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Speaker 1: injury on a short week, it just wasn't in the card.

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Speaker 1: So it's the number two pick, Zach Wilson against the

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Speaker 1: number one pick, Trevor Lawrence, and uh, right now that

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Speaker 1: tilts heavily towards the visitors. Yeah, I kind of feel

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Speaker 1: for Zach Wilson that that's going to be the endless

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Speaker 1: talking point during the game and at every sort of

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Speaker 1: juncture point, and whenever Zach Wilson does, it's like we

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Speaker 1: kind of get it. I mean, if you're watching these games,

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Speaker 1: we get that these two cool quarterbacks are in very

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Speaker 1: different spots and so let that be um. I really

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Speaker 1: look at the Jets team right now. They were five

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Speaker 1: and two, seven and seven, and a lot of missed opportunities,

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Speaker 1: and I mean it's just like each and every one

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Speaker 1: of these games, you know that fourth and one spot

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Speaker 1: last week against the Lions and bang a huge touchdown occurs.

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Speaker 1: It's like there's little inflection points for the Jets where

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Speaker 1: early in the year they were winning those games and

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Speaker 1: now they're falling apart. I wanted to see this defense.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a great game for a very

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Speaker 1: good Jets defense against a like second year quarterback, against

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Speaker 1: a team that's under a first year head coach. They're

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Speaker 1: playing really well to generate some takeaways at home in

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Speaker 1: a big spot. They have one takeaway since Week nine.

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Speaker 1: They've got the guys to do it, and I know

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Speaker 1: that Sauce Gardner is gonna essentially make it a ten

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Speaker 1: on ten ten type game. Um that doesn't matter so

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Speaker 1: much against Jacksonville because I mean, they have some weapons,

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Speaker 1: but it's more just like find a way to make

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence uncomfortable. That's still a possibility in this world.

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Speaker 1: And this is a game that if you're the Jets,

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Speaker 1: you lose this, you lose a lot of things on

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Speaker 1: the perception game too. It's Trevor Lawrence thing. It's one

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Speaker 1: team that's no one believed in going north in another

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Speaker 1: team going south, the Jets, And so I think this

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Speaker 1: is a huge pivot point for a team and essentially

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Speaker 1: spells their season right here. Yeah, they probably have to

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Speaker 1: win all three to make the playoffs. That they certainly

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Speaker 1: have to win two out of three, and the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are one of the teams they could be tied with

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Speaker 1: in a scenario in the wild card too. Potentially it's

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Speaker 1: possible for Tennessee and Jacksonville again, so they'd have the tiebreaker.

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Speaker 1: I find this game extremely tough to pick. I feel

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Speaker 1: like the consensus is gonna go with the Jaguars this

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Speaker 1: week just because of how the two teams have been

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Speaker 1: playing lately. But the point spread is about even. I

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Speaker 1: think the Jets are one point favorite. You always like

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Speaker 1: to be on the other side when when everyone's pushing,

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Speaker 1: and I could kind of see the Jets standing up.

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Speaker 1: The Jets are better overall team in my mind than

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. And I think it's a different Zack Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think we know the Zach Wilson's story exactly,

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Speaker 1: because his game last week to me, was so different

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Speaker 1: in shape than almost the entire rest of his career.

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Speaker 1: If that had been the Zack Wilson we had seen

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Speaker 1: for most of his rookie season. I think you could

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Speaker 1: at least see it, like see who he is. He

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Speaker 1: had six big time throws in his previous sixteen games,

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Speaker 1: so about the most milk toast quarterback out there. On

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Speaker 1: top of all the mistakes he made inaccuracy. In this

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Speaker 1: game against the Lions alone, he had five big time throws.

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Speaker 1: He threw a lot more on rhythm. Sometimes he missed

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Speaker 1: those throws on rhythm by quite a bit, so there

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Speaker 1: was like a lot of down. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: had like a good game, but I thought it was different.

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Speaker 1: He was a little more on time, and you saw

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Speaker 1: some talent and if he can get more help like

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Speaker 1: a running game, and you mentioned the defense, then I

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Speaker 1: think they have a decent shot, right, That's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But last game, he got nothing out of his defensive game,

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Speaker 1: and his tackles weren't playing well either, like their passwords.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm saying that Zack Wilson showed me a

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Speaker 1: little more in that last start than any start of

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Speaker 1: his career. So you're right, because he was attacking down

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Speaker 1: field and connected with Garrett Wilson on a few plays

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Speaker 1: and even getting as frenetick as it was on that

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Speaker 1: last possession, um he made some great throws to just

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Speaker 1: keep them alive and give him a chance for that

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Speaker 1: field goal. That said, it was an extremely erratic performance

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Speaker 1: from Wilson, and it was one that he threw. The

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Speaker 1: one interception he through was a terrible read where he

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Speaker 1: misread the coverage and just floated a past that was

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Speaker 1: easily picked off on first down with a clean pocket

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Speaker 1: and Garrett Wilson flashing open as Elijah Moore is double

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Speaker 1: covered in his zone, and it was just like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: this guy is killing us, and he he misses too

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Speaker 1: many throws. And yet yes, you have some hope based

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Speaker 1: on his ability to keep his eyes down field and

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Speaker 1: make some throws that you didn't see in previous weeks.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. So that's the thing. Like, I'm just

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Speaker 1: happy that it's no longer the Jaguars, like now that

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Speaker 1: they've won two straight, it's the Jaguars um. But this

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Speaker 1: defense the past two weeks, they've been playing really well.

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Speaker 1: They've been getting these big plays. They played the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: really well. They picked him off twice, four turnovers against

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Speaker 1: the Titans. Grave Digger. I mean, I'm a little worried

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Speaker 1: about their offensive line though, that is that's the thing

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Speaker 1: that could really get them because they're left tackle Cam

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Speaker 1: Robinson he's likely out for the entire season. And then

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Speaker 1: their right tackle Dwan Taylor, he's dealing with a hamstring injury.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna play. Um but this that could be something

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Speaker 1: to watch in this game. Um but it's so tight

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Speaker 1: right now in that division with the Jaguars one game

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Speaker 1: ahead of it. Tight and to your point mark about

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Speaker 1: the turnovers, that is the one thing that the Jets

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Speaker 1: are missing right now. On defense, Carl Lawson has got

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Speaker 1: to make a big play. You need to get hit,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, you need to knock the ball out. Quinn

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Speaker 1: and Williams, I don't know if he's playing a short weeks.

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Speaker 1: At least they sound like they're helpful. Calf thing is tricky.

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Speaker 1: I could see them pushing him into the line of

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Speaker 1: because the game is so important, and then you just

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Speaker 1: hope that the calf holds up. He needs to be there.

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Speaker 1: They it's got to be kind of all hands on deck.

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Speaker 1: And just one thing I want to point outcause I

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Speaker 1: wanted to point it out on Sunday that Sauce Gardner

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Speaker 1: could be first team All Pro cornerback this year, Sauce

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Speaker 1: Gardner wasn't even involved on the screen on Sunday because

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Speaker 1: the Lions in their game plan. Ben Johnson, who we

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Speaker 1: respect and could be a head coach candidate, said nope,

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Speaker 1: we're punting on that side of the field and DJ

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Speaker 1: sharks just not going to be in this game. And

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Speaker 1: that's incredible that that's where Sauce is this at this

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Speaker 1: point in his career. So maybe he makes a big play,

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Speaker 1: maybe did you DJ read, Somebody's maybe c J. Mosley.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's got to help the offense and create short fields

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Speaker 1: because the offensive line has been struggling for weeks and

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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson can't do it alone. I mean, I I

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Speaker 1: just think also that if you're a Jacksonville Jaguars fan

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Speaker 1: and you're forty years old, this is a different day

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Speaker 1: for you. It's it feels the way for Jets fans

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Speaker 1: if they had a quarterback. Can you imagine the Jets

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Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence had that things flip somehow and they

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Speaker 1: had that. I mean, Trevor Lawrence over the last month

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Speaker 1: has completely evolved and changed and it's like you don't

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Speaker 1: have a bunch of bad parenting going on in the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff like a year ago, and you see how

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Speaker 1: quickly he advanced. Yes, producer, I just, oh my god, Mark,

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Speaker 1: you make a great point there about how things canna

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Speaker 1: flip because today is the two year anniversary of the

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Speaker 1: day that Frank Gore sealed the Jets win over the

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Speaker 1: right to to think that I defended you. You're not

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Speaker 1: allowed to talk for the So you've been punished, you're grounded.

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Speaker 1: I was looking, I'm sorry being the grounding because it

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Speaker 1: involves Frank Or, Like you know, we haven't the show.

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Speaker 1: Have you read about Frank Or recently? Um, what as

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Speaker 1: a boxer? No? Well, Frank, you know, check the blodder. Right,

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Speaker 1: I guess I should say, right on the wrong side

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Speaker 1: of history to Sorry, what a what a great coaching

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Speaker 1: match with though Peterson. Doug Peterson has kind of been

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Speaker 1: in his bag lately, Like he owned Dan Quinn in

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Speaker 1: that game. Like they had a stretch of plays where

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Speaker 1: they were so far ahead of what the Cowboys defense

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Speaker 1: was doing in terms of misdirection everything going against Robert Salad.

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Speaker 1: I think there are spots in this Jet Jets defense

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Speaker 1: to attack up the middle. That's where they like throwing

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Speaker 1: and that's not where Sauce Gardner will be. Where it's

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Speaker 1: like Jordan's Whitehead and Will Parks and their linebackers, and

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Speaker 1: that's where Kristen Kirk tends to rome and Za Jones,

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Speaker 1: and I think you'll see a lot of that. So

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Speaker 1: it's a great coach. This is one of the best,

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Speaker 1: most interesting games of the year, I think because Check

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Speaker 1: in the Middle Company, we we agree with Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: Like December football, it's a build up to this. These

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Speaker 1: are one of the These are two of the teams

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Speaker 1: that have kind of changed who they are all season

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Speaker 1: and it's been building to this and now it's like

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Speaker 1: you get to find out who's the video. It's good.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like it's it's a body swap comedy

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Speaker 1: where the Jets where the feel good um also ran

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Speaker 1: team that is like charged into relevance, and now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Jaguars have kind of taken that spot.

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Speaker 1: That has to be a little frustrating for you. Well,

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Speaker 1: the good thing they play because I think I'm picking

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Speaker 1: the Jets in this game. Should I feel good about that?

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Speaker 1: They've been a very tough team to pay you, I

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Speaker 1: would be very I would be very wary of picking

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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson in a primetime game with a lot of

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Speaker 1: I gotta feeling it's a bum he is, all right.

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Speaker 1: That was the t NF preview presented by Prime Video.

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Speaker 1: The new era of Thursday Night Football is officially here,

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Speaker 1: and it's only on Prime Video al right. Oh and

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Speaker 1: by the way, this is a little treat hopefully for

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Speaker 1: the listener. Keith and Debb. My parents are in town

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Speaker 1: staying at the house through Christmas. It will be father

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Speaker 1: and son handling the TNF recap on Thursday, me and

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Speaker 1: Keith from handsas manner breaking down Jets Jags, and I

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Speaker 1: promised you Jaguars fans that I will give I will

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Speaker 1: tempt talking balanced and fair coverage towards your jacks if

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Speaker 1: you come out on top of this. But yes, me

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Speaker 1: and my dad will break down t n F. No

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Speaker 1: Friday fund show this week. We're gonna hit it up

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Speaker 1: on Thursday Night. A couple of things. I think that

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Speaker 1: you would not be the broadcaster that you are um

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Speaker 1: without your dad and probably what your dad talked about

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Speaker 1: any parent figure that swoops in and gives us Friday

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Speaker 1: off will be shipped. I mean multiple bottles of wine.

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Speaker 1: So I am a big Keith fan. There you go.

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Speaker 1: I'll let him know that you said that. I hope

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Speaker 1: he will. Well, I'm a min it. Let's take a

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Speaker 1: break and then welcome in the legend himself, Connor war

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. You'll hear them music. Christmas is

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Speaker 1: this weekend? What are we in the second third night? Hanaka?

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Speaker 1: Yes right, Jason Horowitz. Jason Horowitz raiders the text thread

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Speaker 1: going on about the Hanaka business. I didn't catch up

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Speaker 1: till late on that. You guys are just all over this,

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Speaker 1: chopping it up, chopping up the data points around by

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Speaker 1: the time that conversation is over. But anyway, let's stay

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Speaker 1: focused here. It is the holiday season, and um, one

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Speaker 1: of our great friends now joins us from around the

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Speaker 1: NFL once upon a time and now Sports Illustrated Monday

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Speaker 1: Morning quarterback, a gifted football reporter and a hell of

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Speaker 1: a man. Connor Or or are you kidding me? We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about some holiday films from lifetime from from

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Speaker 1: whatever wherever streaming. Let's dig into it. This is gonna

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Speaker 1: be fun. Yeah, let's do it. Hallmark, Dan, come on

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Speaker 1: Hallmark films. Yes, of course they are not movies. They

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Speaker 1: are films. And it's funny Connor reach out to me.

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Speaker 1: I mean months ago, I'm talking, it might even be

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Speaker 1: in October, and he's like, Hey, I gotta come on

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Speaker 1: the show and I gotta talk some of these Christmas

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Speaker 1: movies because he you and your lovely wife Alison. Um,

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Speaker 1: you guys, you ingest these films and you process them,

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Speaker 1: and you wanted to have a platform to speak on it.

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Speaker 1: And I am so happy that we can give that

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Speaker 1: to you. So it's funny. We're big Lifetime house, but uh,

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Speaker 1: mostly for the murder and so but then right after Halloween,

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Speaker 1: it switches from murder to Christmas. That's turn. It's a

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Speaker 1: huge turns. It's something that I'm very excited about. But

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Speaker 1: I have to brace everybody else for it because I

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Speaker 1: think we're used to so much murder, and then when

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Speaker 1: you go straight into like November one, we're we're Hallmark

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Speaker 1: in Lifetime Christmas all the way through uh the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. So it's uh, it's it's it's a

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Speaker 1: good transition, but it's a tough transition. That's unbelievable. Connor

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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways literally and one thing and

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Speaker 1: maybe as a way before we get into a couple

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Speaker 1: of recommendations for our audience. And I've checked because some

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Speaker 1: of the ones you sent me, I watched one of them. Um.

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Speaker 1: I made sure to check that these are all streaming, uh,

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Speaker 1: and anybody can get them. Um, did you want to

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Speaker 1: touch on what are the two kind of themes? Should

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Speaker 1: we do that organically during the conversation? Do you want

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Speaker 1: to use that as the bed before we get into

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Speaker 1: the feast? Here we can, we can get into it.

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Speaker 1: So I've kind of conveniently broken this down into actually

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Speaker 1: four genres dan um of and the fact that almost

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Speaker 1: all of them hit these notes are are really incredible.

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Speaker 1: And so the first is that, Um, your husband is

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Speaker 1: better than you think he is. Basically, there's a woman

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Speaker 1: who gets a mystical wish granted and wakes up in

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Speaker 1: another life where she gets to marry the and and

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Speaker 1: there's been a several of these. So the hot art dealer,

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Speaker 1: the hot sports writer, there's a woman the sportswriter. I'm

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Speaker 1: not kidding, And naturally holiday switch would you recommended starting

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Speaker 1: Nicole Edgar two thousand seven, just that scenario. She goes

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Speaker 1: through a washing machine and comes out the other side

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Speaker 1: married to an art dealer and realizes she realizes that

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Speaker 1: the she love husband back in her poor life is

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Speaker 1: the man for her. And I thought that was unless

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Speaker 1: a lesson that, you know, the ladies can learn from.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe she didn't go through a dishwasher for

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Speaker 1: a refrigerator or still written by a guy getting angry.

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Speaker 1: All right, so that's one theme. Okay, your husband is

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Speaker 1: better than you think he is. I don't mind that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'll just so the sportswriter one though, I'll just

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Speaker 1: close it this. It's very funny that the moral of

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Speaker 1: the story is like, oh, like she's like, god, I

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Speaker 1: wish I knew what life is going to be like

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Speaker 1: if I married this sportswriter and made it seems so

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Speaker 1: glamors right, and then she ends up regretting it because

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Speaker 1: she's like, oh, he's a jerk and he's on his

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Speaker 1: phone the whole time. And it's like, yes, that's that's

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Speaker 1: very true. Most of us. It's like, honey, sorry, I'm busy.

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Speaker 1: Albert Brier is calling. Yeah, I'm never home. I work

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Speaker 1: every weekend and I have a slight gambling habit. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, okay. Theme two is I'm I'm a big

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Speaker 1: shot coming back to my small hometown and it's time

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Speaker 1: to focus more on Christmas and marry the girl in

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Speaker 1: high school I overlooked. And is the gender switch here?

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Speaker 1: Is it also sometimes the woman as well who's successful

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Speaker 1: and comes back and says, well, that's not what life's about. Correct,

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Speaker 1: So that that would touch more on Christmas and Tahoe. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And so this was a very powerful female marketing executive

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Speaker 1: who came back to Tahoe to save the family's Christmas hotel.

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Speaker 1: And uh, she hooks up with her ex boyfriend who's

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Speaker 1: a musician, and they put on a Christmas spectacular that

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Speaker 1: saves the hotel. And who who is that actor that

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Speaker 1: portrays in the musician Connor? Or well, it's not the

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Speaker 1: actor that portrays the musician. There's a bell hop in there,

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Speaker 1: played by the lead singer of Train. And my question

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Speaker 1: is how did the lead singer and Train make time

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Speaker 1: to shoot this film when he's playing every NFL event,

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Speaker 1: pregame shows and whatnot. He was he was so good.

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Speaker 1: H he delivered an Academy worthy performer. I'd like to see.

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Speaker 1: I would like to see like the film that happens

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Speaker 1: a year later after powerful figure goes back to small

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Speaker 1: little um misty hometown gets swept up in this emotional drama.

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Speaker 1: Then like a year later like wait a minute, totally

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Speaker 1: wrong decision. And also want to know like how bad

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Speaker 1: an actor is the lead singer from Train that he

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Speaker 1: couldn't be the lead guy who's the musician? Probably you

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Speaker 1: had to prepare for like the two thousand fourteen NFL

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Speaker 1: kickoff from San Francisco, probably Conny. And that's another one.

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Speaker 1: That one. Again, these are hitting some you know, uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: pressure points in terms of what are they telling the

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Speaker 1: women watching this to do that your career doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: and the only thing that actually does matter is having

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Speaker 1: a family and making that family happy. Is that right, Connor?

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Speaker 1: Pretty accurate? Now, now you're making me seem like I

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Speaker 1: came here from the Patriot News Network. I like these

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Speaker 1: because they're very easy storylines to follow, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: a smart person. That's that's but do you but do you?

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Speaker 1: Will you allow Connor that there is some of that

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Speaker 1: messaging baked into it, perhaps at a largely female audience.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's why you're seeing Candice Cameron Bray, who's

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Speaker 1: sort of the Meryl Streep of Hallmark coming under fire

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Speaker 1: for some of her She's got some hot takes when

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Speaker 1: you kind of unleash. Yeah, it gets a little scary

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Speaker 1: on I think the certainly not take endorse the entire

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Speaker 1: network is probably aimed at people who have already made

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Speaker 1: these decisions, who are cemented in them and must just

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Speaker 1: to be confirmed by the film that they made the

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Speaker 1: right decision. This all makes me a little nervous because

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Speaker 1: constantly my dad is telling me around this time of

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Speaker 1: year that I need to go I need to leave

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Speaker 1: NFL network and go work at the Hallmark channel as

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Speaker 1: an actress or I don't know what he thinks I'm

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Speaker 1: going to do that. That would be great if you

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Speaker 1: came for Candice Cameron Burret's crown is the Queen. Wow, Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I want to sit on that throne.

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Speaker 1: All right? What's the third theme? Okay, so not not

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Speaker 1: going to make calling any happier here, but Connor does

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Speaker 1: not endorse any of these Colleen, Let's just be clear

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Speaker 1: in the Christmas spirit. The third theme is I'm a

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Speaker 1: humble bookstore owner, pie store owner coffee store owner, candy

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Speaker 1: store owner, Christmas store owner. And I'm about to get

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Speaker 1: and I'm about to get swept up by the hot

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Speaker 1: accountant coming to audit me. That sounds kind of like

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Speaker 1: a porn Yeah, that's that's more straightforward. I think that.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone could enjoy that. The whole family did.

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Speaker 1: Your daughter Evelyn is getting older. She old enough to

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Speaker 1: watch some of these movies we did. We all watched

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Speaker 1: um a Royal Christmas together, which is that's the fourth

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Speaker 1: category of just straight up bangers, where you're just vomiting

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Speaker 1: Christmas everywhere. You put the network's biggest star on. You

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Speaker 1: spend a little bit of money and uh, you know

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Speaker 1: Lacy Shavert from Mean Girls, who's in it? It's pretty good? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And what happens they're just getting together and having Christmas.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be some drama point. Lacey Shavert is

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Speaker 1: a humble Taylor's assistant who's dating her runned the mill

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Speaker 1: college boyfriend and then, surprise guys, her college boyfriend is

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Speaker 1: actually a prince of a small country, the old Switcher

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Speaker 1: who being four. Yeah, so it's like coming to America.

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Speaker 1: I don't get that. So all along she didn't really,

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Speaker 1: he just went through floated through high school as a secret,

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Speaker 1: secret royal, floating through college as a secret Any Murphy

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Speaker 1: might be able to sue these screenwriters in that particular

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Speaker 1: reverse though. You know, she proved her real love for

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Speaker 1: him because she didn't know he was a print. This

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Speaker 1: is all making me want to murder. So I know

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Speaker 1: that Hallmark is murder and then Christmas, but for some reason,

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Speaker 1: Christmas is making me feel murder. Is there I understand

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Speaker 1: that we want to get that out of you though?

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Speaker 1: Is there a point in those films where there's a

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Speaker 1: misunderstanding when it where it appears that the partner was

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Speaker 1: in it for the wrong reasons and he's like, no,

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Speaker 1: but you don't understand. I loved you before I knew

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Speaker 1: you were the prince. Like no, the the other romantic

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Speaker 1: rival framed it to look otherwise, any of that dynamic

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Speaker 1: going on, So it would kind of be the uh,

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Speaker 1: the other thing that you would expect it to be,

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Speaker 1: which is Jane Seymour, who's the queen of this small nation,

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Speaker 1: doesn't accept Lacy and so then you know she has

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Speaker 1: to kind of work her way into royalty. But also

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Speaker 1: like late, you know, Jane Seymour's got to eat a

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Speaker 1: cheese steak because they're from Philly, and so you know

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Speaker 1: there's back in Um. Can I just say the film

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Speaker 1: I watched Holiday Switched two thousand seven to Cole Eggert, Um,

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Speaker 1: it's really made an impact. It actually kind of did.

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Speaker 1: And I sat down and watched it with my wife

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Speaker 1: and when it was over, and I guess this is

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Speaker 1: the biggest endorsement I could give it, I felt a

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Speaker 1: little better. I am concerned for how did Emily feel she,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I think she kind of wasn't doing

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Speaker 1: a little bit too. And we had some fun watching it,

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Speaker 1: you know, poking at certain plot elements or actors that

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Speaker 1: were maybe a little outclassed. I think that's the fun

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Speaker 1: of the films for me, which is, yes, sometimes that

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Speaker 1: it's a shoe string budget, or it's an actor you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen it in a while, and then bang they're

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Speaker 1: in a lead role. And for instance Eggert I thought

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Speaker 1: gave an excellent performance and Switch, I think she really

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Speaker 1: nailed it. And uh, it's a reminder that, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: the gigs dry up, but when you get the opportunity,

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Speaker 1: you could shine. Thespian too. Maybe she's been working on

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Speaker 1: a craft behind the scenes. It's a little bit for

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Speaker 1: those roles. Connor, these leads, they're pretty dramatic roles and

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Speaker 1: their media roles in which they're the emotions are all

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Speaker 1: over the place, and if you don't have the right

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Speaker 1: person there, maybe that's why the lead singer Train was

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Speaker 1: stuck as a bellboy. He didn't have that dynamic range.

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Speaker 1: Well you listen to So I watched Christian Bailee give

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Speaker 1: a speech on sort of the way that he arrived

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Speaker 1: at some of his most famous characters, and I would say,

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Speaker 1: in Nicole Eggert's case, like there is no studying that

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Speaker 1: you can do. This has never happened in life, and

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Speaker 1: so you have to just go head first and plunge

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Speaker 1: into the washing machine. And you're not gonna know how

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Speaker 1: it happens, and and it's all it's all feel and

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Speaker 1: if anything, what what else is being an actor? But

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Speaker 1: but going with your heart and your gut. There now

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Speaker 1: there was there was there like a magical spin cycle.

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Speaker 1: She like spun it too far around own and it

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Speaker 1: landed on a crazy In an ideal situation, they would

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Speaker 1: have had a some type of interstitial where you see

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Speaker 1: her traveling through dimensions. But they didn't the budget didn't

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Speaker 1: have that. So literally she goes in a crappy washing

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Speaker 1: machine in a basement and comes out in a mansion

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Speaker 1: on the in a different way. You have to return

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Speaker 1: back through the other side of the washing machine to

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00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: get back. Because I've always wondered what is permanent press,

851
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. I would say. I would say, check

852
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: your settings closely if you're looking for an escape in

853
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: your life, and and look up Holiday Switch, which you

854
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: can get quite cheap on many streamers. I'm gonna watch

855
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: it tonight. See it seems like we could all make

856
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: that jump to Hallmark one day if we wanted to.

857
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: It's connor anything else you want to share before we

858
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: say goodbye. And this has been incredibly enlightening. If you

859
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 1: want to, maybe, whether here or through your social media,

860
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: let people know what films to target if they want

861
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: to go down this road. Uh, this is the opportunity. Okay, Um,

862
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: So I mean listen, it's Hallmark, right, So you just

863
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: turn on Hallmark and it's Chris this movies all the time.

864
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: You can't go wrong, and you know you you got.

865
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: You can come for the plot lines, but you stay

866
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: for the bones of each movie. Which are identical, right,

867
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: which is that something happens. The couple drifts apart, comes

868
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: together at Christmas, shares one dry kiss, and then the

869
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: movie is over. And so that's it. And if you're

870
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: looking for bone dry um, and if you're just looking

871
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,479
Speaker 1: for repetitive um, non thinking stuff, I mean it's great.

872
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: You know, I'll have Thursday one on one window, and

873
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna have you know, I'm gonna have my

874
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: Hallmark up on another window. It's gonna be great, Connor.

875
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: It reminds me of this tweet the I saw over

876
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: the weekend. Um. This guy he he wrote that I

877
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: forced a bot to watch over a thousand hours of

878
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: Hallmark Christmas movies and then asked it to write a

879
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: Hallmark Christmas movie of its own. And um actually has

880
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: a script here. So do you mind if I share?

881
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: I would love to batique. Okay. So the movie is

882
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: called The Christmas on Christmas and this is from Keaton Patty. Um,

883
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: so you guys should all follow this person because um,

884
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: they are hilarious. Okay, So The Christmas on Christmas, UM,

885
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: and it takes place at a small town snow globe.

886
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: Brief Hilary, we see a single mother refilling snow globes

887
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: with Christmas juice. She is widow, her husband died in

888
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: every war. Single mother. I refill snow globes better than

889
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: Jesus claws. Yet still my twins are dad free. Why

890
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: they need double dad. Businessman enters the shop. He wears

891
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: clothes that cost money. His hands are briefcases. He's Hallmark Hot.

892
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: The single single mother says, Hi, do your snow globes

893
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: black wet, hurry Christmas attacks soon. Businessman has flashback to

894
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: when he was business boy. A Christmas tree explodes his

895
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: family on purpose. He now hates trees and Christmas and explosions.

896
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: He exits the flashback. Businessman says, shut your sound. I

897
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: am from huge city. I bought your land and I'm

898
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: turning it into an oil resort. That's the antagonist. And

899
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: then the single mother says, rude behavior. This is a

900
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: family business. I sell families. I am widow. My husband

901
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: is now bones. Single mother points to her husband's bones

902
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: in the corner of the room. They are all gift

903
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: wrapped in eggnog. There's more, but I mean it is.

904
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: It's that's the best, the Hallmark Hot dad. I feel

905
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: like that's like Blake Shelton. I think it's a thing, well,

906
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: it shifts from I feel like it's a fun kind

907
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: of identifier of where we're at society, right, because if

908
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: you look at movies from like two thousand seven and

909
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: then two thousand, like fifteen, and then two thousand twenty two,

910
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: the body type and sort of the desirability of the

911
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: person isn't is completely different, right, And they're sort of

912
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: adjusting with the trends and in the times, you know,

913
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: and that's what you need. You need to keep it.

914
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: Even in the world of Hallmark films. You gotta adjust

915
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: with the times. But the kisses always bone dry, bone dry. Connor,

916
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: you've said it all, Um, hit up, Connor if you

917
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: want some recommendations on Christmas films. I will be checking

918
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: out Christmas Detour. Um, I plan my plan. What is

919
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: the train guy one? The Christmas and tah Christmas and Tahoe. Absolutely,

920
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: thank you, Connor. Hav a merry Christmas, my friend, and

921
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 1: a happy New Year, and we'll see you soon. Happy holidays. Friends.

922
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: Miss him, he's the best. We just have him in here.

923
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: We'll put him in the corner. I feel like that

924
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 1: was the eggnog rapping to come on and not even

925
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: have a hint towards football. That's what Connor wanted all along.

926
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: I think we needed that mark, and I would say

927
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: that maybe this Christmas season give one of those films

928
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: to try. In fact, Holiday Switch two thousand seven to

929
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: call Eggert and a man husband looks suspiciously like John Ritter,

930
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: to the point you look him up and it's like, oh,

931
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: we played John Ritter in an unauthorized threes Company film

932
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: from two thousand three. Writing down Holiday Switch Switch like

933
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: that could bring up multiple things on a Google search,

934
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna will only bring up the two thousand

935
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: seven film. I hope, would Nicole Eggert, if you could

936
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: just watch it and let me know if anything, I'll

937
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: report back to if you feel from I am susceptible

938
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: to these That's why I'm curious. I think you could be,

939
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: because the pathos of the Egger performance does land for me.

940
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: I wrote it down, all right, I'm developing news. If

941
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: it's not about a Christmas movie, I am leaving. It's

942
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: a two frong story. The Ravens have claimed veteran Sammy

943
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: Watkins waivers on Problems Tuesday in part because or possibly

944
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: because Devin Duverne left practice on Tuesday with a foot injury,

945
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: and there is concern it could be significant. According to

946
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: Frank written all over it, she never takes a holiday off. Um, Harlott,

947
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: that stinks. I think the Ravens are cooked by the way.

948
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: I think this is going down a bad path. Did

949
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: you hear this kind of barely been playing lately? It's

950
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: been did you see Watkins into Seaun Jackson. That's someone

951
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: paper the outside of their facility with like fire, Greg

952
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: Roman Flyers their offensive coordinator. Um. And it was you know,

953
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: led to people asking John Harbor are you planning to

954
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: make any changes to your staff? And then someone else

955
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: on the staff actually instagrammed a photo of one of

956
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: the flyers before down with the past rusher? Uh did?

957
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: It's like, what are we done? It was unclear if

958
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: like he supported it, but he just said, okay, I

959
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: don't know child gang anyway. That's that's interesting, Sammy Watkins,

960
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I don't know if he gets

961
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: open anymore. All of my wives are bones. That is America.

962
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: But I must make money for my twins to live.

963
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: They are a prince single mother. I too own twins.

964
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: Please don't have bought my land. Christmas is today, businessman, laugh,

965
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: I bought Christmas and now it is never unless we

966
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: go on dates. Single mother. I cannot date because of

967
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: a snow curse. I pray Santa helps me. Santa cannot help.

968
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: She did not know, but Santa was her husband. Santa

969
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: is bones, bones help nobody. The bones are the money.

970
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: It was a dangerous plot twist. Santa's dead. Santa's dead

971
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: and his bones are wraps. Santa phones and all. No

972
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: longer just a mythical figure that breaks my brain reading

973
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: each of the sentence. But I would watch the film.

974
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: All right. Thank to everybody, uh for checking out another

975
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: episode around the NFL. We'll be back on Thursday with

976
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: the week sixty preview episode how about that? And then

977
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: t n F recap with Keith at Night sounds fun call?

978
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back everyone to episode two of the

979
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: Heat and Light Podcast. This is Mark Sesslo joined as always,

980
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: well really all in the second time. I guess it's

981
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: still always by Connor or what's up, buddy? How you doing?

982
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm doing well. I'm getting ready for the weekend.

983
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: You know, gar enough. We'd like to do this on Friday,

984
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: because once we wrap this up, we can kind of

985
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 1: post through a rather brain dead, uh last few hours

986
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 1: on the shift in the newsroom and kind of snow

987
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: under our our employer on that front. And then it's

988
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: the weekend. Then we start to we start to imbibe liquors,

989
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: we start to be out in the sun. So that's fun,

990
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: I know, Connor. This week we