1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cardinals Locker Room Show, presented by Arizona 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals Podcast. Visit Hazycardinals dot com Slash. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Podcasts, cool Man. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Come on, let's get back to the stadium for analysis 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: and exclusive interviews from the Cardinals Locker Room. Here's Dave, Pash, 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley, and Paul calvic. 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: Here on The Cardinals Locker Room Show. After twenty to 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: thirteen defeat to Detroit. Wolf going to break, just kind 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: of talking about, you know, this being a barometer game. 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: What's your takeaway in that regard in terms of how 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: far the Cardinals have come, but also where they have 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: to go. 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they've got word to do. There's no 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: doubt about it. The Detroit Lions came out and they 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: won this game twenty to thirteen because they were able 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: to control the line of scrimmage. They ran the ball 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: well enough offensively to put Jared Goff in a balanced offense, 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: and because of that, they scored twenty points in this game. 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: I was very, very encouraged to see the Arizona Cardinals 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: defense come out and compete the way they did in 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: the second half after giving up twenty points in that 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: first half. But they competed on the line of scrimmage, 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: did a better job against the run in the second half. 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: That is encouraging. It's the offense that is really discouraging 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: here because without Alex Anzeloni, who I think is their 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: best inside linebacker, also a guy that they looked to 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: a captain type player, the Arizona Cardinals could not run 28 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: the ball with any type of regularity, and that was 29 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: really disappointing. Now, I know, you know you had a 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: right tackle situation going on with your offensive line, but 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: still the fact that you went out there and were 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: not able to run the football put Kyler Murray in 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: a balanced offense that to me was very disappointing. 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: Seventy seven rushing yards for the Cardinals and you touched 35 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: on the defense. First half, they gave up about seven 36 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: yards of play, second half about four thirty four plays 37 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: for Detroit. Only one hundred and thirty three yards in 38 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 3: the second half and no point. So the defense certainly 39 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: played better in the second half. And it's not like 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: they're at full strength either. I mean, you got injuries 41 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: to a couple starters on the defense. You lost two 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: of your six defensive linemen in this game. That you 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 3: had up, including a starter and Justin Jones. So you're 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: playing with your forces depleted on that side of the ball. 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: You held the Lions to twenty points, pitched the shotout 46 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: on the second half, but again just three points on 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: offense for the Cardinals in the second half. And so 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: now you go back, as you get ready for Washington, 49 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: you try to figure out a way to run the ball, 50 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: because James Connor had just nine carries and seventeen yards. 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: Wow. And there it is right there, that is the 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: evidence of everything we just have talked about here, David. 53 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: That was it. Cardinals could not run the ball, and 54 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: I really do believe it's very, very important for them 55 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: to run the ball, to put Kyler Murray in that 56 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: balanced offense. Because of that, and then Kyler was not 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: as effective as we've seen him in the first two games. 58 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: Troy Benson just two carries eight yards. Cardinals lose twenty 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: to thirteen to Detroit. Back after this and the Cards 60 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: radio and now today's game presented by State Farm like 61 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: a good neighbors State Farm is there Jim Omhunter Perser 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: Wos told us Kurtzacher, a statistician, first said no rushing 63 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: plays at all, in the fourth quarter and James Connor 64 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: lowest rushing total of his career minimum nine carries, which 65 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: is what he had today. So your Dante say it. 66 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: Cardinals did a better job stopping the running the second half. 67 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: But the Cardinals' inability to run the ball, they just 68 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: you know, one of nine and third down, you can't 69 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: run the ball. You're not going to be in third 70 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: and short, You're going to be in second at third 71 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: and long, Wolf and it just makes it really hard 72 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: to possess the football. 73 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. In Once again, I want to give 74 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: credit to the Detroit Lions. That's who they are. They 75 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: believe that winning games, winning football games starts on the 76 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, on both sides of the ball. It's 77 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: why they invest as much as they do into their 78 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: offensive line that has four first round picks on that 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: offensive line. Now, once again, it's not like the Lions 80 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: drafted every one of those four first round picks. But 81 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: having said that, they invest in their offensive line because 82 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: they know their skill is going to be able to 83 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: do better and perform better when that offensive line is 84 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: out there playing the way that they do. I think 85 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: they have the best offensive line certainly in the NFC, 86 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: I think for the most part, maybe in the National 87 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: Football League. I love the fact the Arizona Cardinals defense 88 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: came out here in competed the way they did in 89 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: that second half. After giving up twenty points, I know, 90 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: the Lions were still able to run the ball, and 91 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: ultimately that's why they won this game, because they were 92 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: able to run the ball. They scored twenty points largely 93 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: in that first half because they were able to run 94 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: the ball. But the Cardinals came out and competed on 95 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: that line of scrimmage and that really encouraged me. What 96 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: discouraged me was the fact that the Cardinals became one 97 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: dimensional early in the second half. 98 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: Well, Seattle won. So the Seahawks at three and oho, 99 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: the Cardinals have company at one and two. Two teams 100 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: joined them because the Rams, I don't know how, just 101 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: beat the forty nine ers twenty seven to twenty four. 102 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? 103 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: Yes? No? Not no, not kidding. 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: Oh, my goodnesses. 105 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: So you've got three teams at one and two and 106 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: you got the Seahawks at three and oh, just like 107 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: everybody predicted coming into the year, right. 108 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: Boy, that is crazy, it really is. Yeah. The Cardinals, though, 109 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: I think this is going to be good. I think 110 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: they are one of the most physical teams in the league, 111 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: but they're gonna have to prove it from this point forward. 112 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 2: This is a good reminder going out there and competing 113 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: against the Lions. And again the Lions is they pride 114 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 2: themselves on being tough inside that box. So this is 115 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: a physical, physical game and we all were looking forward 116 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: to it, and we found out Cardinals have a lot 117 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: of work to do. 118 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: They do play a rookie quarterback in Jane Daniels, who 119 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: it's a homecoming of sorts. Started out here at Arizona State. 120 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: They're playing tomorrow night at Cincinnati, so a short week 121 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: on the road. The Commanders come in here. Former Cardinals 122 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 3: head coach Cliff Kingsbury now the offensive coordinator and the 123 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: play call for the Commanders, Dan Quinn the head coach. 124 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: They're one and one on the season and the Cardinals 125 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: you're never going to say in September that it's a 126 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: must win, but when you have three straight home games, 127 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: you got to win two out of three, and so 128 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: especially knowing you got the Niners on the road, they 129 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 3: just dropped a game that it was a wild day 130 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: in the NFL. Look at some of the scores where 131 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: they just dropped a game that they obviously did not 132 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: think was going to happen. They were in command that 133 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: whole game, and the Rams are banged up and obviously 134 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: really struggled here last week, and then you have the Packers. 135 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: It looks like Jordan Love is going to be back 136 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: at this pointoli willis played well, but at this point 137 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: it looks like Love will return much earlier than expected. 138 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: So to be able to close out this three game 139 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: homestand at two and one, to get to two and 140 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: two overall, maybe you get a little bit healthy at 141 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: some point. You hope to get Darius Robinson back in 142 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: the near future. You hope to get Jonah Williams back 143 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: in the near future. We always thought, I, at least 144 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: I did wolf that if you could just get through 145 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: the first month two and two, looking at the schedule, 146 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: that at least you weren't you didn't have this huge 147 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: uphill climb one in three. Not saying you can't overcome it, 148 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: but it feels like you're asking a lot knowing that 149 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: then you've got those two road games against playoff teams 150 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: back to back. 151 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know for me, right, now, I think it's 152 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: okay to get up in front of your team and 153 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: tell these guys, hey, listen, this is it boys. Early 154 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: in this season. We want to be two and two. 155 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: There's no denying that. And the fact that you've got 156 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: the Commanders coming in here off of that short week, 157 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,559 Speaker 2: playing on Monday nights, coming in here a road game, 158 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: traveling all the way across the country. Heck yeah, man, 159 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: I think you know, it's up to the head coach, 160 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: of course, to set the table for his team. Now 161 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 2: the player's David. They got to go out and they 162 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: got to eat. Nobody else can do it. They've got 163 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: to eat. But setting the table I think is something 164 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: that a head coach has got to do in the NFL, 165 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: and I think JG is really good at it. I 166 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: think he'll square away with these guys right now. Listen. 167 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: The fact that the Rams beat the forty nine I'm 168 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: thinking immediately, Sean McVay, that's exactly where my mind goes 169 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: when I think of what we saw and how the 170 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals beat the Rams down here. My goodness, the 171 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: fact that they would play the forty nine ers and 172 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: beat the forty nine ers, I think of Sean McVeigh 173 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: and how good a coach he really is. 174 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 3: You had some crazy games today in terms of outcomes, 175 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: with Denver winning in Tampa Bay blowing out the Buccaneers 176 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: with a rookie quarterback. 177 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: I never saw that coming ever, who would. 178 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: After they beat Detroit, Green Bay easily handles Tennessee not 179 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: really a shock. But again with Malik Willison quarterback, Carolina 180 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: with Andy Dalton goes to Vegas and wins. He lit 181 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: them up a Giants winning Cleveland. Minnesota blows out Houston 182 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: thirty four to seven behind Sam Darnold. So again, the 183 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: NFL year to year proposition is you, like to say, Wolf, 184 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: I'm in agreement. It's also weak to week you just 185 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: don't know. But obviously getting off to a good start, 186 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 3: just giving yourself a little cushion for those mid to 187 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: late season injuries that are gonna come. With a seventeen 188 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: game season, people might be listening thinking, ah, just one 189 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: more game, but think what goes into each game, and 190 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: now you add a full week of that. It makes 191 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: it harder to get through a year unscathed, to get 192 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: through a year where you have continuity on your lines. 193 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: I mean, the Cardinals may be starting a fourth right 194 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: tackle in four games. It doesn't just affect the right tackle. 195 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: It affects the whole offensive line. It affects Kyler Murray, 196 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 3: who ended up by the way throwing for two h seven, 197 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: a touchdown, and a pick. A quarterback rating of seventy seven. 198 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: The first half looked like the whole game of the Rams, 199 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: and then the second half, for whatever reason, well just 200 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: didn't look as good. Maybe playing from behind, maybe it 201 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 3: was the pressure, maybe it was some mistakes by the receivers. 202 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. For me, once again, I think you 203 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: look at that second half and the Arizona Cardinals became 204 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: one dimensional pretty early where they really couldn't run the ball. 205 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: That first half I think was a beatdown for him 206 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: because they weren't able to run the ball the way 207 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: that I thought that we're going to be able to. 208 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: And I think the second half became a situation where 209 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: there were one dimensional and it was very, very difficult. 210 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: I will say this right now. I think when you 211 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: go back and look at some of the one on 212 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: one situations that Marvin Harrison Junior had, some of the 213 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: throws were not great throws by Kyler Murray when he 214 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: singled them up and attacked, especially on the perimeter on 215 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: the outside, But there were some there that I think 216 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: the tape is really going to help Marvin Harrison Junior 217 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: and Kyler Murray see they need to continue to develop 218 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: this chemistry, David, this chemistry that I think we're starting 219 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: to see from them, but they've got a lot of 220 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: work they still have to do. I think this tape 221 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 2: is going to help expedite the process. 222 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: He's a rookie. It's easy to look at those mistakes, 223 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 3: but it's also he's got three touchdowns already. He's clearly 224 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: a number one. And we saw last week in the 225 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: first quarter and this week in the first half that 226 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: he's hard to cover. Now we're adjustments made in the 227 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: second half by the Rams, by Buffalo and by Detroit. 228 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: We're they're adjustments that gave him trouble because again, and 229 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: we've talked about this a lot, Wolf I play wide receiver. 230 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: Going from college to the NFL is among the hardest transitions. 231 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: You just see you don't see as much in college. 232 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: Some offenses. In college you're not even in the huddle, 233 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: you're doing your own thing. They're different adjustments you have 234 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: to make at the pro level. And maybe some of 235 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: this is just again a normal rookie learning curve for him. 236 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: No, I think it definitely is. And you know, like 237 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: you said, he had, you got three touchdowns already in 238 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: three games right now, that would be a pretty good 239 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: pace if you continue to do that. 240 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: What about Trey McBride, though, if he's hopefully okay after 241 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: going into concussion protocol just three catches, it feels like 242 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: it's been a quiet start for him. I don't know 243 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: if you're seeing teams that are really game planning for him, 244 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,239 Speaker 3: or if there's another reason why he has not gotten untracked. 245 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a combination of the two. I 246 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: think it's still the chemistry that Kyler Murray has got 247 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: to continue to develop with him. They were very, very 248 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: good last season. Of course, I think that needs to 249 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: rear its head once again. But it's difficult for Kyler. 250 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: He's trying to get Marvin Harrison Junior involved in this 251 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: offense in a big way, and it's not like he's 252 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: he's looking immediately to throw the ball to Marvin Harrison Junior. 253 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: He's going through his progressions and at the same time, 254 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: I think he's still finding his way in this offense, 255 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: and you know, Trey McBride is a Grey talent, There's 256 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: no doubt about it. I think they're gonna be absolutely fine. 257 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about those guys. I'm not worried about 258 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: getting Trey McBride involved in this offense. I'm more worried 259 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: about the chemistry in terms of Marvin Harrison Junior and 260 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray. Just again, some of these throws, these back 261 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: shoulder throws that we see, I think Marvin Harrison Junior 262 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: can actually get better at doing it. Again, Kyler Murray 263 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I 264 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: do believe Marvin Harrison Junior is a guy that needs 265 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: to work on some of those contested catches, those back 266 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: shoulder throws. 267 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: Two sacks today we heard from Dante Stills. Mac Wilson 268 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: had a sack and again deprived of what looked like 269 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: a pick six. Look like the clock had not hit 270 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: two minutes when the officials blew it dead. What a 271 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: pickup he's been. The Cardinals are incredibly solid in the 272 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: middle of that defense, with Kaiser White, mac Wilson, and 273 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: obviously the two safeties Baker and Jalen Thompson. Paul is 274 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: waiting for coach JG. Would love to hear what referee 275 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: Brad Rodgers told JG about the clock situation there at 276 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: two oh one slash two minutes at the end of 277 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: the first half, which again when we were watching it 278 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: live and via replay, look like it was still at 279 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: two oh one when the snap happened, that it had 280 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: not hit two minutes. 281 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: And. 282 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: At that point the play's dead. You can't review it, 283 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: and it's as if it never happened, which is unfortunate 284 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: because that was the difference here in the game, at 285 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: least when you look at the scoreboard. 286 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really really tough right there. And two, 287 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals came after Jared Golf in that situation 288 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: and he was trying to get rid of it and 289 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: it bounced into the air and great play. 290 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: All right, I'm sure we'll get the latest on that 291 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: and more from coach with Paul standingboy. 292 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon joins us from the locker room. Coach, you 293 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: knew it was gonna be a physical game. How do 294 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 4: you think the Cardinals competed today? 295 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't lose the game because of effort and 296 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 5: violence and finish, and you know, so that is that. 297 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 5: I'm enthused about that because that team is a good 298 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 5: football team that plays extremely hard and plays with violence, 299 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 5: and I thought we matched it. We just got to 300 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 5: play cleaner in all three phases there. 301 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: You know, Ben Johnson, their offensive coordinator, was liable to 302 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: do most anything when he starts the game with six 303 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 4: offensive linemen and multiple tight ends. 304 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: What did that tell you? 305 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I thought that they got they started. Obviously, 306 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 5: the emphasis was to run it, and we're a little 307 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 5: bit leaky, so we didn't get to some pass downs 308 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 5: in there. But then I thought at halftime we made 309 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 5: good adjustments and we did a good job in the 310 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 5: run game there for the most part in the second half. 311 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, was there one big adjustment you had to make 312 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: after those opening touchdown drives by the Lions? 313 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 5: You know, there's never a huge adjustment. I'm sure Nick 314 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 5: called a couple different I know Nick called a couple 315 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 5: different things with how they were attacking us, and some 316 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 5: guys made some plays. They bit down on their mouthpiece 317 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 5: and made some plays. 318 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: You mentioned halftime, Right before half, I want to ask 319 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: you abou a couple of specific game situations. What looked 320 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 4: to be two to oh one, maybe two minutes wiped 321 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 4: out a pick six. Just what were you told about 322 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 4: that situation? 323 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 5: They said, at the two minute warning, the game clock 324 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 5: operator blows the whistle. 325 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 4: And what amount to do a fourteen point swing? How 326 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 4: tough or deflating or yeah. 327 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 5: It was because you know, you'd you'd like to keep 328 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 5: points off the board there going into halftime. But I 329 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 5: thought our offense did a good job of getting a 330 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 5: field goal there, and I thought our resiliency coming out 331 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 5: at halftime, they didn't. Our guys don't let that bug them. 332 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 5: That's an uncontrollable for our guys. Control what you can 333 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 5: control and make sure we come out and play a 334 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 5: half that we get ourselves back in the game and 335 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 5: have a chance to win the game, which I thought 336 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 5: we did. 337 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, the defense pitched a shutout in the second half. 338 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 4: What stood out about the d in that second. 339 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought the run game was good like you 340 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 5: talked about, and I thought on on pass downs we 341 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 5: did a good job. You had to take away you 342 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 5: had a fourth down stop. Those are huge points to 343 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 5: keep us in the game there. I thought they played 344 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 5: really well in the second half. 345 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 4: Dennis Gardek had the interception obviously late third quarter. How 346 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 4: close were you to taking the points in that fourth one? 347 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 5: I know, yeah, that's a good question, Paul, that's it. 348 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 5: You know, at it probably was, but at a at 349 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 5: one I thought it was the right thing to do 350 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 5: with the time and the score at the at the 351 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 5: point in the game to go for it there. So 352 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 5: they made a good play. 353 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 4: How did you assess Kyler day, especially when considering the 354 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: last run if we have this correct, which with about 355 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: three minutes to go in the third quarter, that was 356 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 4: the last run by the Cardinals offense at that point, 357 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: your your one dimensional on offense? 358 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 3: Correct. 359 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a hard way to go. You know, 360 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 5: you never you always want to have a be at 361 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 5: a one score game, so you're not one dimensional. I 362 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 5: thought he battled his ass off. He sat in there 363 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 5: and and tried to make plays for us, and made 364 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 5: some plays for us, got us back into the game. 365 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 5: I thought thought he played well. 366 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: So when you in the scope of this game, he 367 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 4: had zoom out when you look at the rushing totals 368 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 4: one to eighty seven to seventy seven, how big was 369 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: that in deciding the game? 370 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: I think it was. 371 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 5: I think that was one of the things. You know, 372 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 5: they played the game, especially in the first half of 373 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 5: second and shorters, and we played the game in second 374 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 5: and longers, and I think that's another reason. You know, 375 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 5: I know he weren't great on third down as an offense, 376 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 5: but you know, when you're third and eight, third, nine, thirty, 377 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 5: ten all day versus a good defense that can rush, 378 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 5: it's just a tough way to go. So we'll get 379 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 5: back to the drawing board and we'll do a better job. 380 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: And he played most of the game with a third 381 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 4: string right tackle Jackson Barton, How do you think he faired? 382 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 5: He played awesome. I thought he really played awesome. He 383 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 5: stepped up to the plate. He's always prepared. Like I said, 384 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 5: his role changed, you know, basically up until game time. 385 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: And I thought he did a good job. 386 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 4: What was the thing in an eight Hudchinson? He obviously 387 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: did not wreck this game. 388 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought you know that this Obviously some plays 389 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 5: are called to try to get out of his hand 390 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: a little bit, and we had attention to him. I 391 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 5: thought he had the sack at the end. But he's 392 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 5: a good player, man, I mean, reak some havoc in there, 393 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 5: and he definitely failed us. And you definitely got a 394 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 5: game plan for him. So when you do that, that 395 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 5: that limits you a little bit too. 396 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 4: Anything specific you want the team to take away from 397 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 4: this particular game going forward. 398 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, And what I told him is I'm enthused about 399 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 5: our effort and our and our and our violence and 400 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 5: our finish. What we'll take just like we do from 401 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 5: any game tomorrow. We'll get in there and learn from 402 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 5: our mistakes. And but I told him, I said, if 403 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 5: we if we keep playing with that type of intensity 404 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 5: and effort, uh, We're going to be in a lot 405 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 5: of games. We'll win a lot of games. So that's 406 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 5: what I'm enthused about. That's what we can take away 407 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 5: from it. Clean up the pissed that we lost. We'll 408 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 5: clean that stuff up and become better from it. But 409 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 5: if we keep playing with that, we'll be fine. Okay, 410 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 5: thank you, coach, Thank you, guys. 411 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: There we go. 412 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 4: Head coach Jonathan Gannon. 413 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: Guys, it's so interesting to listen to Jgither because what 414 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: he said is what people in the Lions organization were 415 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: saying before the game, that the Cardinals remind them of themselves, 416 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: meaning the physicality, the attention to detail, how well coached 417 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: they are, and look, it's a seven point game. Despite 418 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 3: the issues with the run game, the interception, turning it 419 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 3: over on downs twice, they still lost by seven. It 420 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: was a one possession game. At the end. They had 421 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 3: a chance to get the defense off the field. They 422 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: had stopped the Lions on five consecutive third downs and 423 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 3: Jared Goffin a'm and Ross Saint Brown made a play. 424 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: But again, is the Cardinals are. They're not there yet, 425 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 3: but you still can see great progress. 426 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 2: Just very very encouraged that the Arizona Cardinals came out 427 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: and played one of the teams in the NFC that 428 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: many people think could be the representative in the NFC 429 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 2: came out here. It's a one possession game loss twenty 430 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 2: to thirteen. They came out here and competed. I am 431 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: discouraged about the line of scrimmage. They they got beat 432 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: on the line of scrimmage and that was something I 433 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: didn't foresee happening in this game, especially from the offensive 434 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 2: perspective for the Arizona Cardinals. All Right. 435 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: Our executive producer is jim O Mahundra, Associate producer Cody Fincher, 436 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: Engineers Walt Ellis and Jason Ellis. 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