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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston throws for five hundred yards six touchdowns. Two

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Speaker 1: I owned a team, like I would just let them

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Speaker 1: do whatever they wanted to do. Now if it didn't work,

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Speaker 1: they would be accountable for it. But part of being

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Speaker 1: an owner, like I wouldn't want to play GM or

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Speaker 1: I would just name myself the GM. That's part of

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Speaker 1: hiring them. I would be on a boat, I would

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Speaker 1: be on a golf course. Tell me when Sundays aren't

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Speaker 1: like I wouldn't go to practice practices were boring When

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Speaker 1: I worked in football, if I was an owner, it's like,

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Speaker 1: just do you man, and I'll pay you a lot

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Speaker 1: of money. Whoever the best of the best. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you the resources get it done. When you meddle, then

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Speaker 1: it fucks with them and it doesn't. It's like micromanaging

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Speaker 1: in any business. But like the part of the reason

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Speaker 1: you hire these guys. And the thing with football is

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Speaker 1: like most people don't know what's going on. It's a

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Speaker 1: foreign language, you can't speak their language, you don't know

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Speaker 1: the playbook, you're not around the team. Most of these

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Speaker 1: owners aren't in the office every day, so you come

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Speaker 1: in like as a helicopter parent, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it's like, what are you even talking about? And you

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Speaker 1: throw off the equilibrium of any chance it can work,

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Speaker 1: and this is what you get. Right, Russell Wilson would

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Speaker 1: have been a problem for Denver because of the mix

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Speaker 1: with the coach, and it wasn't I'm sure popular. When

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Speaker 1: he broach the idea of like, yeah, we should cut

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Speaker 1: this player. Like what, like we're gonna cut him? It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: we hired you. Okay, you don't think Stefanski and Andrew

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Speaker 1: Berry have thought like, yeah, we should probably bench this player.

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Speaker 1: But clearly it's not in their control. So I feel

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Speaker 1: for them under that element of their job. Okay, before

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Speaker 1: I think the penthouse is pretty clear, right, we said

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Speaker 1: Forever the Chiefs have aloft. They have a giant, giant penthouse,

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Speaker 1: and they are living well, even though it's very hard

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Speaker 1: on a weekly basis. Eleven and one's eleven and one,

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Speaker 1: eleven and one is eleven and one. And I actually

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Speaker 1: heard sal with Bill Simmons. I thought he brought up

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Speaker 1: a good point. Gambling culture, which I love. I do

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Speaker 1: think has made us look at the Chiefs a little

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Speaker 1: bit different. If this was when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: all you'd be saying it is like eleven and one.

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Speaker 1: It's like one of the great starts in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: How does it get any better? The only thing is

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Speaker 1: the way we talk about the Chiefs twenty two. It's

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Speaker 1: like they can't cover a spread against the Chiefs. If

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Speaker 1: you get a large number, hammer the opponent. It's all

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Speaker 1: we talk about. It's like they're eleven to one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it has been difficult. I've said over and over. I

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Speaker 1: probably don't think they're gonna win the Super Bowl this year.

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Speaker 1: I think this is probably the time when they lose

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. It happens, happened to Brady and Belichick

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Speaker 1: a lot. But they're gonna be in the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: there's a decent chance. We talked about it yesterday it

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Speaker 1: still could be the number one overall seed. I do

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Speaker 1: think the best team in the AFC right now, which

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Speaker 1: not really debatable, is the Bills. They look pretty special

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Speaker 1: and I do think it's really really important for them

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Speaker 1: obviously it's and Sean McDermott talked about this, it's out

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Speaker 1: of their control. Think how funny it was, and this

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Speaker 1: is one that I feel pretty happy that I thought

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Speaker 1: this is one of the craziest things I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: About a week before kickoff, when the New York Jets

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Speaker 1: were favored to win the AFC East. I think in

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Speaker 1: all of the gambling discussion over the last several years,

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Speaker 1: that has to be one of the crazier visuals I've

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Speaker 1: seen with futures over unders, Super Bowl odds, MVP odds.

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Speaker 1: One year, Justin Field's MVP odds were a little crazy,

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Speaker 1: but the Jets were favored over the Buffalo Bills to

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Speaker 1: win the AFC East. The Buffalo Bills clinched the division

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Speaker 1: on December one. There are five games that's fucking insane,

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Speaker 1: but props to them and they look awesome. I've been

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Speaker 1: saying this and that a lot of people have. It's

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Speaker 1: crazy how great of a season the Lions have had,

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Speaker 1: and it still feels like they're fighting, not just for

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Speaker 1: the number one seed for the division, and I think

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Speaker 1: this week like they're in it. They've deserved it. It's

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Speaker 1: been an incredible one from last year, a run from

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Speaker 1: last year into this year. I do think there's like

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Speaker 1: tangible pressure on them at home with all these injuries

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Speaker 1: against the Packers if they are to lose this game. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota is very much in the mix, so is Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, with all these injuries for the Lions,

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Speaker 1: I would expect Green Bay to look pretty good. If

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell can win this game against the Packers with

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Speaker 1: these injuries, it might be his most impressive like non

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Speaker 1: playoff victory achievement so far in his you know, short

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Speaker 1: career as a head coach. And obviously the Eagles, who

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley has really changed their team because it's taken

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Speaker 1: so much pressure off Jalen Hurts and really Nick Sirianni.

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Speaker 1: Someone said, like Middlecoff, you were called Sirianni an idiot

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Speaker 1: two months ago. Well, yeah, it's not like I think

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Speaker 1: Sirianni's Bill Belichick. But his team's ten and two. They

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Speaker 1: just went on the road to Baltimore and beat the

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Speaker 1: shit out of them. The final score does not reflect

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Speaker 1: the game we witnessed. They work the Ravens like there's

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Speaker 1: no dispute. They look really good. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've said it over and old, or like if they

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Speaker 1: fired it tomorrow. I don't think he's getting hired this cycle.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that he is just safe just because

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Speaker 1: they make the playoffs or even get the one seed.

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Speaker 1: If he were to lose in like the second round

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Speaker 1: is the number one overall seed, I don't think he

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Speaker 1: would be a lock to return. We watched the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and this is why I believed in them coming into

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Speaker 1: the season. One. I like their coordinators. I mean, Fangio

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Speaker 1: is one of the best defensive coordinators in the league.

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Speaker 1: And I think Kellen Moore is good and clearly he's

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Speaker 1: emphasized the run more. Whether that's the offensive line who

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Speaker 1: banged down Sirianni's door to tell him to do it,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Kellen Moore evolving, whether it's just we got

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, we might as well feed him the pill. Regardless,

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Speaker 1: it's working. And they're gonna be a problem because they

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Speaker 1: have competitive like their guys have been in these big moments.

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Speaker 1: AJ Brown, Saquon Barkley, DeVante's or not Sequon, but actually

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Speaker 1: Saquon's been the playoffs with the Giants, but most of

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Speaker 1: the Eagles core guys have and a lot of their

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Speaker 1: younger players Guess where they played University of Georgia, guess

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Speaker 1: what George did. Played in a lot of big fucking games,

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00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: won multiple national titles. So these guys are used to

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Speaker 1: a ton of pressure, which is a huge, huge advantage.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Eagles man, if I was Howie

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Speaker 1: I be, I'd be feeling pretty confidence. It's just like snick,

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Speaker 1: stay out of the way. When it comes to the

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00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: worst teams in the league. I think there is one

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00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: team that is on an island. You watch the Jacks.

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Speaker 1: Every time I looked up against the Texans, it felt

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Speaker 1: like they were kind of in the game, even after

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence got knocked out. We talked about the Raiders

553
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving like they were they played a pretty good game.

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Speaker 1: They're still trying really, really hard. The Titans did not

555
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: look good against Washington. But I just find the Titans

556
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: completely irrelevant right now. Like I think, if you outside

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00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 1: of Nashville, no one even realizes they're in the NFL

558
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: this season. I do think the Giants are in their

559
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Speaker 1: own little bucket, partly because it's the franchise, it's huge brand,

560
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Speaker 1: the market the offseason hard knocks. I saw a clip today.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this was after the game or

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Speaker 1: last week during a lead up to the game, but

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Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeau basically said, if you don't make plays, you're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to speak in our locker room. And then

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Speaker 1: like Lawrence Time's and some other former Giants kind of

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00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: chimed in like that's kind of a loser thing to say, right, Like,

567
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Speaker 1: if you're on the team, like your voice should matter.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you're not leading pregame speeches if you're you know,

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Speaker 1: the seventh guy on special teams kick coverage. But like

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Speaker 1: that's a mindset. It feels like they are just completely

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Speaker 1: off and it is getting uglier by the week. And

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Speaker 1: that Thanksgiving night game when they insert Drew Locke, who

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Speaker 1: is better than DeVito, and honestly they could have had

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Speaker 1: Kerrie Collins or Eli Manning back there. That offensive line

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Speaker 1: right now is going to get someone killed. I think

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Speaker 1: if I had, if I was a betting man right now,

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Speaker 1: I would say the Giants not only do not win

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Speaker 1: a game the rest of the season, but end up

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Speaker 1: with the number one pick. I don't think there is

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Speaker 1: a team that is worse than the New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Dexter Lawrence out for the season. He's the

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Speaker 1: best player on the team by a mile. So right now,

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Speaker 1: when you look at look at the Panthers, we were

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Speaker 1: making fun of them, they were the porta potty Panthers.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Andy Dalton gets in a car accident.

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young comes back. You watch them like, they look

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Speaker 1: like a real football team. They look like a real

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Speaker 1: football team. You watch the Giants, You're like, this can't

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00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: be real right now. Listen, even the Jets, Like, the

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Speaker 1: a game, I'd believe you. So I think the Giants

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's dive into a couple things around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I saw today that Kevin Warren said that the Bears

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Speaker 1: That's why they hired Kevin Warren, sells sponsorship and make

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Speaker 1: split into two. Acted like he was essentially the owner,

637
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: because at this point in time, it's not really arguable

638
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: that Kevin Warren is essentially in charge of the Bears.

639
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of press conferences over the years,

640
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: when a coach is fired, either in season or you know,

641
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: in early January or sometime during the playoffs, you know,

642
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: Black Monday, or whenever it happens. Typically what happens if

643
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: the general manager is kept, it is either an owner

644
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: by himself elf giving the press conference explaining himself kind

645
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: of speaking to the fans, or the owner and the

646
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: GM up there together. And there have been a lot

647
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: of articles written. I've even referenced some of them and listen,

648
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: I kind of take them at face value. Why because

649
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: I want to. But I've said before, you got to

650
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: be very careful with this stuff. Sources. You never know

651
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: what is actually true, because I've heard enough stories about

652
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: articles that are written. Talk to people in those buildings

653
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: and they're like, Eh, that's that's not really the case.

654
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: But the Kevin Warren thing, every article has been pretty consistent.

655
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: But I've always said, I, you know, words, just in

656
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: any walk of life, I judge you on actions. And

657
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: when you click on today's Bears press conference, there is

658
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: no one who could argue who is in charge, and

659
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: it sure as hell is not Ryan Poles. Honestly, it

660
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: was a pretty crazy thing to watch for the first

661
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: five or six minutes, Ryan Poles didn't say a word.

662
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: It was honestly kind of awkward. And here's what's bullshit

663
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: about this whole thing, and why all these future head

664
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: coaches would say most coveted job while me and Ryan

665
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: Poles are in the trenches. When things go well, you're

666
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: gonna be standing right next to us, and when things

667
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: go shitty, you are going to be nowhere to be

668
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: found and pointing the finger at us. This is why

669
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: business people, the ones you don't want to be around

670
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: in this industry, you know, want to act like we're

671
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: just in charge of the operation when it comes to

672
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: the stadium, the sponsorship, all that stuff. But when things

673
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: go well, I'm a part of football because it's so easy.

674
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: When things don't go well, I don't have my hands

675
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: in it at all. And I will say this, there

676
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: are clearly a lot of crazy owners, right. We're seeing

677
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: it with Woody Johnson, right with the New York Jets.

678
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: We've seen it over the years with a lot of

679
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: different franchises. But at least you know, if you're the

680
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: coach or the GM like, listen, this is this guy

681
00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: signs my checks. I work for this guy. When you're

682
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: a kid and your parents are mad at you, and

683
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: the older you get and you're getting in trouble whatever,

684
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: you know that like, well, they provide me a home,

685
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: they provide me food, they provide me a life. Right,

686
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, you can be

687
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: frustrated with your parents, you can be frustrated with your owners.

688
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: You all know they're in charge. I think it gets difficult,

689
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: and I've been in this situation. I would imagine many

690
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: people have as well, where you have like middle management.

691
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: You're like, wait, you're not really in charge, but you

692
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: kind of control the budget, but not really, I have

693
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: to ask you, but you ultimately don't have the final

694
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: decision making power. You have to go above yourself. It

695
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: finds yourself in this no man's land. And I think

696
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: when you look around the best teams in the NFL,

697
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: let's start with the Chiefs. They are run by Andy

698
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: Reid and Breadbeach when it comes to all things football.

699
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: Look at the Ravens, Eric Acosta and John Harball. Look

700
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: at the Steelers from the Rooney to the GM to Tomlin.

701
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: They're all in it together. It's a football operation. Go

702
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: to the NFC, Dan Campbell Brad Holmes, Gudakin's Lafleur right,

703
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: the Niners suck this year, but for a long time,

704
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan, less need, Sean McVay, Howie Roseman

705
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: and Nick Sirianni or Doug Peterson the business guy, well

706
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: he's a part of it and he's friends with everybody.

707
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: Should not be the guy running point on all this stuff.

708
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: And I thought it was an insane visual of Kevin

709
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: Warren being the complete alpha in that press conference. There

710
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: is no one who could watch that and question or

711
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: even ask, like I wonder who's in charge? We all know,

712
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: so all the articles that have been written which have

713
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: all pointed the fingers like Kevin Warren, this is kind

714
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: of weird. It is what it is, and I think

715
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: this is a recipe for disaster. If Kevin Warren did

716
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: not exist and it was Ryan Poles in the ownership

717
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: and whoever I'm gonna er, we're all in it together.

718
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: I do agree, it would be a very coveted job,

719
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: young quarterback, ton of talent, a lot of talent on

720
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: the roster, big city, great fan base, a lot of history,

721
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: awesome division to play in. But you can't tell me

722
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: it will be a highly coveted job, especially with an

723
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: organization that is notoriously cheap. When the guy in charge

724
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: is a non football guy who does not own the team.

725
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: I actually think that is one of the biggest red

726
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: flags for any team in recent memory. You could argue

727
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: it's a joke and an embarrassment, and if I was

728
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: a Bears fan, I'd be fucking pissed, like what are

729
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: we doing? The Trevor Lawrence hit. I've said forever I

730
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: will not apologize for enjoying violence in football, and I

731
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: think most of society agrees with me. We like violence.

732
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: There's a reason, you know, depending on what numbers you believe,

733
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: seventy eighty one hundred million people watched Mike Tyson versus

734
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: Jake Paul. We wanted to watch Mike Tyson be violent.

735
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: There's a reason that UFC, over the course of the

736
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: last ten twenty years has turned into a billion dollar operation.

737
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: Humans like watching other humans be violent to each other.

738
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: There is no just It goes back to when you're

739
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: a kid in junior high in high school, when a

740
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: fight happens, everyone surrounds it and watches. Now, I mean,

741
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: I grew up in a time without camera phones and

742
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: everyone pulls out their phone. A little different, but still,

743
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: I mean, we're drawn to it, and for most of

744
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: my life, football was extremely violent. Anyone that played at

745
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: any level, whether it's pee wee's, whether it's JV, whether

746
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: it's varsity, college or pros. There is a feeling you

747
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: get inside the first day of pads, when you put

748
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: on you're going through tackling drills. I'll never forget being

749
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: in ninth grade playing JV football thinking like, God, we're

750
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: hitting today. It's just it's an undescribable feeling that as

751
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: you get older and you know, most of the violent

752
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: warfare you conduct is all mental, right, whether it's some

753
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: sort of negotiation in business, physical like you don't really

754
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: most human beings aren't fighting as they get in their thirties,

755
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: forties and fifties. The only way we kind of live

756
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: vicariously through it. Whether you like UFC, whether you like

757
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: boxing or football. I understand. Once the NFL went through

758
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: the situation with concussions and ct and the lawsuits of

759
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars, they tried to cover their ass.

760
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: So the rules got extreme when it came to protecting

761
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks specifically partly because those guys are a huge

762
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: part of the business model. When you turn on a

763
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: game and it's Bill's Chiefs, having Josh Allen and Patrick

764
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: Mahomes in that game is a really big deal. Having

765
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks being forced into action is a problem for

766
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: the NFL in how they make their money because ratings

767
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: start going down. It's not as good. Even if the

768
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: game is bad and you have star quarterbacks, people can

769
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: live with it. I do think we've kind of got

770
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: to this blurry area of There was a play on

771
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving where, you know, earlier this season, Patrick Mahomes against

772
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers had a run where he went

773
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: to the sideline fake like he was going to go

774
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: out of bounds. All the forty nine ers stopped and

775
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: he cut it back and he got more yards. And

776
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: it's happened countless times, not just him, but in football

777
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: the last several years. There was a famous play several

778
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: years ago of Kenny Pickett when he was in college

779
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: breaking a run, pretending to slide. The defender stops and

780
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: he keeps going and he scores a touchdown. Well, Caleb

781
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: Williams on Thursday was going out of bounds and the

782
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: defender was leaping to hit him. Now he probably would

783
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: have got out of bounds, might not have touched him.

784
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know if Caleb knew that he was

785
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: gonna jump and thought maybe he might stop and look

786
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: to cut it back and ended up getting blasted. And

787
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: it was one on Caleb Williams. And I think when

788
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: you watch Trevor Lawrence and is a bad example because

789
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: al Shire, who destroys Trevor Lawrence, knocked him out and

790
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: then created a huge brawl and Demko got mad. That's

791
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: saying that, like, you know, the Jags attacked him like

792
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: it's part of what you do when your quarterback gets destroyed.

793
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: I do think it's a very slippery slope with these

794
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: guys in the open field. And if you watch the

795
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: hit in slow motion, Alshire basically takes off right as

796
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is about to start his slide. These situations

797
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: are very bang bang. And he didn't hit him in

798
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: the head. He didn't get flagged for targeting. Why he

799
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 1: didn't target him. He hit him in the shoulder. Now

800
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: the impact he had and you obviously are not supposed

801
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: to hit anybody when they're in their slide. Forced his

802
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: body back and it cracked his head on the on

803
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: the grass and can Custom knocked him out. But I

804
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: just think, big picture, the defensive players in the NFL

805
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: are at such a big disadvantage and the offensive players

806
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: are starting to take advantage of it. You know, Brady

807
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: went on this rant a couple of years ago about

808
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: quarterback play and everyone freaked out, like he's just a

809
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: bitter old man. No. Back in the day, if you

810
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: made a bad pass, your wide receiver was going to

811
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: the hospital. That's why they called it a hospital ball.

812
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: Last year, Gardner Minshew got Michael Pittman killed. No one

813
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: talked about Gardner Minshew though, and the defender got suspended

814
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: for the season. And I think that I get it,

815
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 1: and if I was in the NFL shoes, I would

816
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: do everything to protect the paycheck. But one half of

817
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: this sport is getting completely railroaded. And I don't know

818
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do because their job is to

819
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: literally tackle people. And when the quarterback runs outside the

820
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: tackle box, he becomes like a wide receiver or a

821
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: running back. Yet he's treated completely different. And it'd be

822
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: one thing if, like, well, Tom Brady runs like a

823
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: five five forty. It's like, just pull up. Trevor Lawrence

824
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: is a big time athlete in the open field. I

825
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: think he runs like a four to six. Running in

826
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: his legs are a big part of his game. He's

827
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: also not some tiny dude. The guy's six six, two

828
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five pounds. So I don't have an

829
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: answer to this. I just think we go so hard

830
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: one way. It's like, I don't know. I've always defended

831
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: the defensive players on this. I'm not sure what they're

832
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: supposed to do. It happens whenever you see a quarterback

833
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: slammed into the ground, it's like he put his weight

834
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: on him. It's like, well, the guy weighs three hundred

835
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: and twenty pounds. Once he starts tackling him, what's he

836
00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: supposed to do? Float away? He's not superman. I just

837
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: think that it's only gonna get worse. And here's another

838
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: big picture problem. These guys, the quarterbacks get paid exponentially

839
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: more money than ninety percent of the guys on the field.

840
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: There's only a couple guys even remotely close. Trevor Lawrence

841
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: makes two hundred million dollars a year, two hundred or

842
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: not a year, but two hundred million dollar plus contract.

843
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: Who's the highest paid guy in the Texans like the

844
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: Neil Hunter with a forty eight million dollar contract. So

845
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: it's like these guys are in a different stratosphere, yet

846
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: they don't have much risk. I get paid all the money.

847
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: If I'm Trevor Lawrence, I didn't have to play well,

848
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: and I really don't risk anything because you're not allowed

849
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: to touch me, and if you do screw up, you're

850
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: making way less. I'm gonna suspend you. I'm gonna suspend

851
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: you without pay. Hell, I might kick you out of league.

852
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: I just think it's starting to get a little out

853
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: of whack. And it's been like that for a while,

854
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: and it's only gonna get worse because the league will

855
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: do everything in their power to protect the product, which

856
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: in their mind starts with the quarterback. And listen, you

857
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: can't disagree and say that's one of the most malicious

858
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: hits you'll ever see. Obviously it doesn't look good, but

859
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: I think before everyone just goes kick him out of

860
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: the league, he's we see this a lot, man. I

861
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: think these are a little more bang bang than we realize.

862
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: While we're sitting on the couch, eating pretzels and drinking

863
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: a Coke zero. And last but not least, sark in

864
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Day. Two guys that I've been I've talked a

865
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: lot about over the years, and obviously Ryan Day is

866
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: front and center right now. He just lost what many

867
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: would consider the worst game we've ever seen in our

868
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: entire lives. I think he was. I think it depending

869
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, DraftKings. I didn't see it where it closed

870
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: like twenty two and a half, twenty three points. It

871
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: wasn't just that he was a three plus touchdown favorite.

872
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: It's that you couldn't find a soul who watches football

873
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: biggest Michigan fan. You could have found people's parents from

874
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: the Michigan's team that would have been, Yeah, we're gonna

875
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: lose this game, like it's whatever. I mean, we'll just

876
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: as long as we playhim close for a half. It'd

877
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 1: be commendable that would have picked the Wolverines. No one

878
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: gave them a shot, probably beside the players and the coach.

879
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: To lose that game is something that you'll never shake.

880
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this today because it goes

881
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: back to Harbaugh's comment about being born on third base.

882
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: Let's you Steve Sarkisian who over the years, you know,

883
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: I thought was pretty overrated. He just never really won.

884
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: And then last year took his team to the playoffs

885
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: and honestly, you know, pretty valiant effort against Washington. And

886
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: then this year, first year in the SEC, was the

887
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: regular season champion and obviously as in the SEC championship

888
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: game with a chance, you know, probably to be the

889
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: two seed in the upcoming playoff. Had a fantastic year. Well,

890
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: sark before he got the Texas job, was the offensive

891
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: coordinator for one of the most famous teams of my life,

892
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: the USC Trojans. Then goes to Washington. Well, you know,

893
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: he we could argue how well it actually went. What

894
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: was winning seven and eight games a lot, but took

895
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: over a really shitty program and then went to USC

896
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: and flamed out, but at least he was a head coach.

897
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: Then he had to go resurrect his career with Nick

898
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: Saban in the Atlanta Falcons before he became the head

899
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: coach of the Texas Longhorns. Ryan Day had never called

900
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: plays until he worked for Urban Meyer in like twenty seventeen.

901
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, and then when Urban just taps out

902
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: essentially hands him the job. So you look at the

903
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: Texas in Ohio state, which most people would consider two

904
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: of the top three or four jobs in the country.

905
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: On guy's resume looks completely different than the other guy's resume,

906
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: But you go listen, these are both offensive gurus. Only

907
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: one of them calls plays. And when I was at

908
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: the Red River game, and I've watched a lot of

909
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: Texas games the last couple of years, like probably many

910
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 1: of you, because they're playing in big ass games. When

911
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: it's Texas on offense, Sark is dialed no different than

912
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: if he was Matt Lafleur, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, Ben Jonson.

913
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: He's the offensive coordinator. He is the guy calling the offense,

914
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: the offense, the quarterback, the skill guy. That's his baby,

915
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: and he controls it. And he has way more experience

916
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: doing this because he's been doing it for twenty plus

917
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: years than Ryan Day. Yet Ryan Day, at forty five

918
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: years old, who's five years younger than Sark, somehow just

919
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: became a CEO. It's like, I'm just gonna have other

920
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: people do the jobs, and I'm just gonna be the boss.

921
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: In what world did he qualify to be the CEO.

922
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: We could argue all day long, should he be the

923
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: head coach or should he not? He definitely should be

924
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: calling the If you're gonna hire Ryan Day to be

925
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: your head coach, I don't want him. Just like, Hey,

926
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: I know your buddy hates being the head coach at

927
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: UCLA and wants essentially a golden parachute where he doesn't

928
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: have to do dick, he doesn't have to recruit. He

929
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: just wants to call some plays. It's like, is that

930
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: a good idea? Would Steve Sarkeys he'd have done that?

931
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: Would Nick Saban have done that? Like when you just

932
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: factor in how Chip Kelly ends up there and the

933
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: reasoning behind it little questionable, And I think we have

934
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 1: to go back to the root is like Ryan, why

935
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: aren't you calling the place? Part of being a CEO?

936
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: And we have a lot of them, whether it be

937
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: in college football or the NFL. Kind of tough guys,

938
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, Jim Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin,

939
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: Like these fucking guys are leaders. Follow me to freedom,

940
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: as Charlie Steiner once said on the esp IN Sports

941
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: Center commercial, and you're like, show me where to start walking.

942
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: You lead the way. Big guy. Ryan Day does not

943
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: exactly scream leader of men. Honestly, neither is Sark. But

944
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: what Sark does really well is because they have a

945
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: huge budget, we can hire top coaches all call the offense,

946
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: will buy sweet players, and I'll just try to give

947
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: a consistent message. Yet Ryan Day somehow thinks he's Jim Harbaugh,

948
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: where his teams consistently show extremely soft and it's like, well,

949
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: who actually called the plays? Was a chip? Ryan Day.

950
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: When you watch Texas and they look shitty on offense,

951
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: you know exactly who's in control of Same thing with

952
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: Ole Miss and Lane Kiffin, same thing with Lincoln Riley

953
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: and usc. Part of the reason I'm hiring you is

954
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: because of your offensive mind, not just to hand some

955
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: two million dollars a year job to your former head

956
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: coach back at some tiny little school in the Northeast

957
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: who's just over at all, who wants to keep casting checks.

958
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: Like I said, like people think I'm some bitter asshole,

959
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. The best thing that ever

960
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: happened to me was actually leaving the football business and

961
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: doing this financially personally, my whole there's nothing that I

962
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: would do over again. But I think we have to

963
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: acknowledge Chip Kelly has not been good at his job

964
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: in close to a decade now. And if in any

965
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: other situation, some of these other program people would be like,

966
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: how is this happening? Why aren't you calling the place?

967
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: In what world on your resume does it say this guy,

968
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: this guy can control it all? The program obviously has regressed,

969
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: and I would say he is. He's in major trouble

970
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 1: because you don't ever shake that game. You don't ever

971
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: shake that visual of them planning the flag and you

972
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: standing there like a deer in the headlights because you're

973
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: in shock, because you had previously said during the week,

974
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: we can't ever lose to these guys again. Ever, it

975
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: can never happen. And then you did, and they ran

976
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: all over your field, tried to plan a flag into

977
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: a turf that doesn't actually work, and you, guys, embarrass yourself.

978
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: And it starts with you, the CEO, who somehow forty

979
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: five years old. I don't know where you acquired these skills,

980
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: but you clearly lack them. Okay, let's dive into a

981
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: little thing we like to call the middle cough mail

982
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram firing those dms

983
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: and get your questions answered here on the show. Just

984
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: my name at John Middlecoff firing those dms questions here

985
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: on the show. Now, the McCaffrey has sustained another serious injury.

986
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about transitioning him from running back

987
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: to full time slot receiver. He's had an amazing career,

988
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: has outperformed all expectations, but his draft day size and

989
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: durability concerns are coming to a head. I think at

990
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: best he has two to three solid seasons at running back,

991
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: but I believe he could be a top end receiver

992
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 1: slot receiver for another five plus years. It's a good question,

993
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: I guess I would say this. The reason he missed

994
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: all of training camp and then missed the majority of

995
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: the season were these achilles injuries. And he made some

996
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: comments getting mad at like Twitter, doctors for guessing about

997
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: his injuries or people on TV. I don't think it's

998
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: really debatable that it's pretty serious that whether you're a

999
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: doctor or not a doctor, you know that is not

1000
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: normal to have both achilles cause problems, not be able

1001
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: to practice, miss all of training camp, miss half the

1002
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: season when you're a guy who's already been injured a lot,

1003
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: like I think that's pretty concerning. And I think if

1004
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: the Niners knew what they know now I'm talking before

1005
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: this knee injury, they would not have given him a

1006
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: big extension, which I thought he had earned right because

1007
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: this guy had become a had just resurrected his career,

1008
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: was fully healthy, was durable. Then they give him like

1009
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 1: this extension, add a bunch of money because he's quote

1010
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: unquote underpaid, and then his legs just go out on him. Now,

1011
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: did him and his agent know that before they signed

1012
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: the contract, I don't know, but it's a major problem

1013
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: now for the forty nine ers. He's obviously on injured reserve.

1014
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: He's out for the season, and that's not even his achilles.

1015
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: If I would have told you a month ago that

1016
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: McCaffrey would come back and then he would get injured,

1017
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: he'd be out for the season, I think we'd all

1018
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: say that I bet his achilles ripped. Now it's a

1019
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: knee injury. It's just it's pretty concerning. So before you

1020
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: can worry about slot receiver running back like, we got

1021
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: to figure out are his legs betraying him, which it's

1022
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: not anyone's fault. It's just to wear and tear. I

1023
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: don't know. But if is the achilles thing just gone?

1024
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: He showed some life last night of looking like himself

1025
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: again before he got injured. But was that a byproduct

1026
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 1: of the snow and everyone on defense basically moving half speed?

1027
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, and now we won't know the answer,

1028
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: And I think coming this off season, there are a

1029
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: ton of question marks when it comes to McCaffrey's health.

1030
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: So I think before you can think of a slot

1031
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: receiver move, it's like, well, what about his legs or

1032
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 1: his achilles just healed? Now? Is this an issue that's

1033
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: not going to take place? I hope, But even if

1034
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: you move him to a wide receiver, it would still

1035
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: be a problem if it's not completely gone. What do

1036
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: you think the Niners should do if they don't pay

1037
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: party who's accomplished more than many already who said that

1038
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: they have to pay him. Now he still has another

1039
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: year of his contract. Yes, he's accomplished a lot. This

1040
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: year was pretty concerning, and I would have no problem

1041
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: giving him like the Daniel Jones Kirk Cousins contract. But

1042
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: I cannot give him Trevor Lawrence contract. I can't. I

1043
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: can't do it as we sit here today, That's just

1044
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: bad business. There's no way anyone could argue otherwise. That

1045
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: be very very it'd be extremely risky, and it feels

1046
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: like the wrist side would outweigh the potential success side

1047
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: based on the information we have right now. I've always

1048
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: even last year coming into the season, like, wait, this

1049
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: guy's You're gonna pay them the same as Josh Allen,

1050
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. He definitely deserves a race.

1051
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: No one argues that, but at what like and at

1052
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: the end of the day, this business so like, can

1053
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: I pay you thirty million dollars a year? I've said forever.

1054
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: Why does everyone just automatically get the max? Because if

1055
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: you have Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes

1056
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: or Justin Herbert, hey, you feel pretty good. But if

1057
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: you have the next tier guys and I gotta pay

1058
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: him the same as that guy, Like, it's not ideal.

1059
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: There's a reason different sized homes cost different amounts of money.

1060
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: Yet when it comes to quarterbacks, like every guy just

1061
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: gets forty fifty million dollars. What the fuck. Can we

1062
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: take a deep breath? That's my thing. Can we just

1063
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: take a deep breath. I'm not opposed to paying him money,

1064
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: but I cannot pay him the money that some of

1065
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: these other guys have gotten based on the information that

1066
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 1: I have right now, because it's like, wait, he's gonna

1067
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: get the same contract Josh Allen. I just I've seen

1068
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: these guys on the same field, and it's like one

1069
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: guy's in a different universe. Well, of course he is,

1070
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's way better. But I gotta pay this guy

1071
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: the same just because he plays the same position. Can

1072
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: I pay him twenty eight million dollars a year? I

1073
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: don't see why that's not an option. After the draft,

1074
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: I claimed that if Howie Roseman had picks number one

1075
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: and two overall in the draft, that he might have

1076
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: taken Mitchell and Cooper de Gene. You counter that how

1077
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: he would have probably taken Ault. I don't think you

1078
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: are necessarily wrong, but I do think it worked out

1079
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: quite well for the Birds. Those two rookies have outpaced

1080
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: my hope so far. And while it would be nice

1081
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: to I have Joe Alt in the trenches, we had

1082
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: desperation need in the secondary If this team can figure

1083
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: out how to play offense in the first quarter, I

1084
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: don't see how they can lose the rest of the year.

1085
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: Love the show. I think if he had the number

1086
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: one and number two overall pick, I think you're right

1087
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: he probably would have used one of the picks. If

1088
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: he knows what he knows now, he would have taken

1089
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: Mitchell with one of the two because he has a

1090
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: superstar corner for the next decade. Ideally, I think it

1091
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: would be between Alt and probably like a Jared Verse,

1092
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: he would take someone in the trenches over Degene who's awesome,

1093
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: But you're not gonna take a slot corner when I

1094
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: could get Lane Johnson's replacement or Brandon Graham's replacement. But

1095
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: those two guys have helped transition the Eagles big time.

1096
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean, their off season is paying dividends right now.

1097
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: Zach baughn is I don't know one of the best

1098
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: offseason signings. Obviously, Saquan might win the MVP. Fangio and

1099
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: k and more crushing the draft picks look awesome. It's

1100
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: going pretty well. It's going pretty well. There's going to

1101
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: be a lot of talk this week about Lawrence. To me,

1102
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks have been spoiled playing touch football their whole lives.

1103
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: They've never faced repercussions for it. They manipulate the sidelines

1104
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: and defenders are scared to touch them because the quarterback

1105
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: will flop and draw a penalty. We see this with

1106
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: Mahomes every week. I see a lot of people saying

1107
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: Jackson is a top ten quarterback all the time, and

1108
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: to me, these guys need to be greatered on a

1109
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: curve because they basically play football on easy mode. It's

1110
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: disrespectful moving these modern guys past all the older quarterbacks

1111
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: that had the rules stacked against them. Many quarterbacks like

1112
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: Montana Aikman had to retire early because they were so

1113
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: beat down. This same play on Lawrence yesterday would have

1114
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: been celebrated as the hit of the Year in nineteen

1115
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: eighty eight. In my quarterbacks should be allowed to be

1116
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: hit on the sideline. It's too close with these calls,

1117
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: and it allows them to pick up extra yards and

1118
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: first downs. I say they should have to be all

1119
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: the way past outside part of the white line for

1120
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: it to be a penalty. That would fix a lot

1121
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: of these problems. You see in this old play, the

1122
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: quarterback weaves in and out indecisive and wants to get

1123
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: out of bounds or not, he pays the price no flag,

1124
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: I hear you. I mean, we talked about it on

1125
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: the podcast. It's just there's a fine line. And the

1126
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have all the advantages in the world, from the

1127
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: amount of money they're making, to the rules on their side,

1128
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: to no one's allowed to touch them. And I think

1129
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: when you manipulate the sideline, that's fucking egregious. And if

1130
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: you manipulate the sideline, you should be penalized fifteen yards.

1131
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: And when you run in the open field, like I'm sorry,

1132
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: you shouldn't get treated when you run outside the tackle box.

1133
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: You should be treated like an offensive player, like a

1134
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: running back would, like a wide receiver would. If you

1135
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: choose to run, that's on you, which I'm all for.

1136
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: I want an athletic quarterback. But I would always preach

1137
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: like we slide, and we slide extra early. We are

1138
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: sliding five yards before you even get close to the defender.

1139
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: And these guys like want their cake and eat it too,

1140
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: and they get right up against it and it's created,

1141
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just a big problem for the

1142
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: defensive players. I feel bad for him. I really do.

1143
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: Why would Minnesota care about Darnold's market instead of doing

1144
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: the Kirk cousins and franchise them once or twice? I

1145
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: mean they easily could. Why I would extend them? Like

1146
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: what if you just want to keep them? What if

1147
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: you think he's just good and you want them to

1148
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: be your starting quarterback? Like that's what I would entertain,

1149
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: Like can you just consistently win with this guy for

1150
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: the next three or four years? And I think that

1151
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: would have to be at play, So I would imagine

1152
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: franchising him is on the table. I would imagine, like

1153
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: how much can we extend this guy for? What is

1154
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,479
Speaker 1: the number? Would have to be on the table as well.

1155
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm curious what's the appeal to be a head coach

1156
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: if you're an elite coordinator? Obviously more money, But if

1157
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: you're a guy like Ben Johnson, why move from where

1158
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: you are now? Which could be the next dynasty. As

1159
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: a Ravens fan, we miss Mike McDonald dearly and can

1160
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: only imagine what we'd look like with him still as

1161
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: the coordinator, maybe an actual super Bowl team. Well, I

1162
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: think you get to a point where you would just

1163
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: like to sit at the head of the table. You

1164
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: just want to be in charge, right Any single guy

1165
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: listening to this, if you've been in a relationship where

1166
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: it's just like, hey, we're kind of sleeping together, nothing serious,

1167
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: no titles, there comes to a point where it's like

1168
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: are we going to make this happen or not? Like

1169
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: are we going to be dating? Are we going to

1170
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: be exclusive? And I think it's like that with a coach.

1171
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: It's like I want to try it. I want to

1172
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: see if I have what it takes. Like Ben Johnson's

1173
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: proven he's an elite defensive or an offensive coordinator. Mike

1174
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: McDonald proved that with defense. It's like, can I be

1175
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: the head guy? Can I be the guy making all

1176
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: the decisions? Can I be the guy put together a

1177
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: staff and leading the troops? Because it's it's the easy

1178
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 1: way out in a weird way, you know. Obviously, some

1179
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: guys like Vic Fangio's proven like he's more of a

1180
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. But I always understand guys wanting to take

1181
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: their shot, like can I do this? And then there's

1182
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: the financial aspect of well, if I'm making two million

1183
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: dollars to be an offensive coordinator, well they'll pay me

1184
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: ten to be the head coach. Or if I'm Ben Johnson,

1185
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm making three or four, they'll pay me fourteen to

1186
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: be the head coach. I mean, that's money's all relative, right.

1187
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: If you're making one hundred grand and I go, hey,

1188
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: one more responsibility here, But how about making nine hundred

1189
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: grand and you get to be the boss. It's like,

1190
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: we're all human beings, and you know, in competitive industries

1191
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: like football, like finance, like a lot of these people

1192
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: these are alphas, aggressive people, big egos, and they you know,

1193
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: they're risk takers. They're risk takers. So I think that

1194
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: plays a part in it, and I think they get

1195
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: to a point where they go, let's put all of

1196
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: our chips in the middle of the table. Lifelong die

1197
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: hard cheesehead who lives in northern Michigan as the crow Flies,

1198
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: I actually live closer to Lambeau than I do Detroit.

1199
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: Getting pretty tired of Lions fans who act like they've

1200
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: already won the Super Bowl. To me, the season just started.

1201
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: Lions fans are starting to turn into Bengals fans. I've

1202
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: said since the beginning of the year, I think these

1203
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: two teams will play three times. When it's all said

1204
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: and done. I don't put too much stock into the

1205
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 1: upcoming game this week. Also, I've never been worried about

1206
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: Jordan Love. He reminds me of a version of Josh Allen,

1207
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term. People forget Josh Allen

1208
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: was not polished straight out of college and took the

1209
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: Bills a year or two of starting him and refining

1210
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: him up until a couple of years ago, we were

1211
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: having the same conversations about the iNTS that we're having

1212
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: with Jordan Love. Needs to clean them up, obviously, but

1213
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: it's just the timing within the game and when he's

1214
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: throwing them. I still feel confident in Lafloor and this

1215
01:07:53,360 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: time ready to compete with anyone in January. Go pack Gous.

1216
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are alive. I think you guys

1217
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: are like seven to one to win the division, and

1218
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: if you win this week, it's right there for you.

1219
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: It really is. And you guys are built like a

1220
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: dome team, so that speed you have on offense translates

1221
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: and their defense, their front seven is just obliterated. So

1222
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: I hear you that the Lions have not won anything yet. Now,

1223
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: if they were fully healthy, they would be my clear pick.

1224
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: To win the Super Bowl. Definitely the NFC, but the

1225
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: injuries have taken a toll. And yeah, man, I don't

1226
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: know what tell you, but good luck, because I think

1227
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: it's right there on the table. And I bet Lions

1228
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: fans are a little nervous right now given that they

1229
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: have no separation. It's not like they got three game

1230
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: lead heading into December. They got a one game lead

1231
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: over Minnesota, they got a two game lead over you,

1232
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: and they got half their teams on the shelf. My

1233
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: name is Alex. Like you, I'm a part of the

1234
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: Bald community. I'm from Socow and have enjoyed your takes.

1235
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm twenty nine. I've been thinking about getting into podcasting.

1236
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: I've been saying for months that if Ryan Day shit

1237
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: the bed this year against Michigan and or during the playoffs,

1238
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: Vrabel would be the next head coach. I'm not sure

1239
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: how locked in you are on college football circuit, but

1240
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: do you think there is a strong chance of that happening.

1241
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: I don't have a dog in the fight, but I've

1242
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: been watching Michigan for the past five years hoping the

1243
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: Chargers would sign them, so they've been my second favorite

1244
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: college team. I don't think any coach who has NFL

1245
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: options would take a college job. Now, Ohio State is

1246
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: like a pseudo NFL job. It pays a shitload of money,

1247
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: it has unlimited resources. It's a great gig. You get

1248
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: to control everything. But it's still not as good as

1249
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: an NFL head coaching job. So to me, I have

1250
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: a hard time seeing Mike Vrabel, who I would imagine

1251
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: is going to get a ton of interviews and have

1252
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: a very very good chance of being offered NFL jobs,

1253
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: taking the Ohio State job. Now he's no Ohio State guy.

1254
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: He's an Ohio State legend. He obviously coached at the

1255
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: program under Urban Meyer. I would be stunted. I really would. Now,

1256
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: what if he gets one hundred million dollar offer. Obviously

1257
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 1: they got a lot of money to throw at him,

1258
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: and he probably wouldn't get one hundred million dollar offer

1259
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Right, Sean Paidon got five years, ninety

1260
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: million dollars. He's Super Bowl champ. I don't see Vrabel

1261
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: getting that. But would Vrabel take fifty sixty million dollars

1262
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: over one hundred million dollars from Ohio State? I think

1263
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: he would because deal with nil the transfer portal like

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, like people are either under contract or

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Speaker 1: they're not right you. It's just so much. And Vrabel

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Speaker 1: now has been an NFL guy coach for the Texans,

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Speaker 1: been the head coach of the Titans forever, is very

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Speaker 1: comfortable in that environment. It's an easier environment. The football

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Speaker 1: is more intense because it's harder. Right at Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: he would be favored in every game of the year.

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Speaker 1: Probably maybe every year, maybe one game he's an underdog.

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Speaker 1: But even this year, I think Ohio State was favored

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Speaker 1: in every game because they were favored at Oregon. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: they were favored in Michigan, so even the two games

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Speaker 1: they lost, they were favored. I have a hard time

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Speaker 1: seeing him going to the college. I'd be stunned, to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, long forlorn Steeler fan who has

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Speaker 1: slowed down the fire Mike Tomlin and rhetoric this season.

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Speaker 1: A year ago, Stucky came on your show ahead of

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Speaker 1: the Eagles Bills game. The Eagles were ten and one

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Speaker 1: and the Bills were six and six. He said that statistically,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles were the luckiest team in the league and

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Speaker 1: the Bills were the most unlucky. The Bills beat the

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Speaker 1: Eagles that week and never look back the rest of

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Speaker 1: the year, and the Eagles floundered, reminiscent of the eleven

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Speaker 1: to zero twenty twenty Pittsburgh Steelers. Do you put the

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Speaker 1: twenty four Chiefs in the same boat as the twenty

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Speaker 1: three Eagles, who would be this year's twenty three Bills

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Speaker 1: unlucky but improving Bengals. Maybe no, because, like, I don't

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Speaker 1: think the Chiefs are gonna win the Super Bowl this year.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think they're gonna represent the AFC. But

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Speaker 1: they have a championship culture, a championship quarterback, and a

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Speaker 1: championship coach, so part of winning these crazy games. Like,

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Speaker 1: they don't have the talent that the Eagles had last year.

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Speaker 1: They have no offensive pieces. Pacheco came back, Kelsey's old.

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Speaker 1: But like, the Chiefs just aren't gonna win this year

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Speaker 1: because they're probably not good enough. They've had a bunch

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Speaker 1: of injuries, run out of steam. The Eagles, I'm not

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Speaker 1: quite sure how you would describe what happened last year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they fired half their staff. Any reasons not

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Speaker 1: gonna do that, And they've won a lot of these

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Speaker 1: games because of just culture and just some people will

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Speaker 1: say the refs, I would just say mental fortitude. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I kind of expect them, you know, if

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Speaker 1: they get the number one seed, I definitely think they

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Speaker 1: could lose that second round. If they are not the

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Speaker 1: one seed and have to play in the first and

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Speaker 1: second round, like probably gonna lose one of those games,

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Speaker 1: and there's nothing to be ashamed of. It's still one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest runs and they would only retool and

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Speaker 1: restock this offseason. But I view the franchises different, Like

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Speaker 1: under Sirianni the coach who had to get rid of

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Speaker 1: a bunch of coaches. Andy Reid won't do that. I

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Speaker 1: would say a team that could get hot. I do

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Speaker 1: think the Packers are coming, and if the Packers win Thursday,

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Speaker 1: I think watch out. Yeah, I don't know if there

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Speaker 1: was a there's not a team that's five hundred that

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Speaker 1: has Josh Allen and the Ravens have a lot of

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Speaker 1: issues going on, so I don't think there is a

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Speaker 1: team that Bill's situation was kind of unique. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allens probably can win the MVP this year. So

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Speaker 1: when you have an MVP level guy and you're six

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Speaker 1: and six. They also benefited because the division they played in.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins fall apart in the cold. But clearly you

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Speaker 1: watch the Bengals against the Seilers, I mean they're not

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Speaker 1: that team to me. The Rams who are six and

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Speaker 1: six as well, a lot of issues, some just off

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Speaker 1: with their offense. Cardinals not good enough Seattle. End of

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Speaker 1: the day, Ginos our quarterback. So yeah, I guess it's

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Speaker 1: a long winded way of saying I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we have a six and six bills currently in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening, Audios, talk to you soon. The volume