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Speaker 1: your Dallas Cowboys get to be involved with the draft.
Speaker 1: Pick to be involved with some draft. There's all some
Speaker 1: other teams that get to be involved with the draft
Speaker 1: as well. The Los Angeles Rams didn't have a pick yesterday.
Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints, and the Kansas City Chiefs, Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears and the Chicago Bears, Cleveland Browns, a lot of teams.
Speaker 1: So now a lot of teams back in the mix.
Speaker 1: We appreciate everybody hanging out with us tonight. When um,
Speaker 1: when you sat down and looked at and always we
Speaker 1: always talk about best available, Okay, but now here are
Speaker 1: teams that all these teams that we kind of mentioned
Speaker 1: are back there, back with the Cowboys. You know how
Speaker 1: aggressive you think some teams are going to be? Today?
Speaker 1: It was, guys, it was a day of patience for
Speaker 1: a lot of those teams. Top twenty only one trade
Speaker 1: in the top twenty. Yeah, So how patient do you
Speaker 1: think teams will be? In general? And especially this team
Speaker 1: here at the Dallas Cowboys. I do expect some action
Speaker 1: in the first five or six picks in the second round.
Speaker 1: There's so many good players on the board that we're
Speaker 1: going to see some trades, guys going up, teams going
Speaker 1: up to get guys. This team, the Cowboys, I expect
Speaker 1: them to be aggressive. I expect them to we can
Speaker 1: call it. You know, it's not necessarily patients. But to
Speaker 1: sit there and wait fifty seven names come off the board.
Speaker 1: Not surely they can do that. Dave Helmy, We did
Speaker 1: a mock draft for the draft show Tuesday and we
Speaker 1: made the decision to sit. We did, and we ended
Speaker 1: up with Tristan Hill. Yes, we did, and so we
Speaker 1: were thinking about that. It was the way the draft fell.
Speaker 1: We lost Thornhill right ahead of us. We lost like
Speaker 1: all the safeties right ahead of us. Okay, let's go.
Speaker 1: I want to go with you real quickly here. And
Speaker 1: I know you've done some research on this. I have.
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys are hunting safeties and defensive tackles, we
Speaker 1: just are we on both? Are we just on the
Speaker 1: safeties part? Both? All right? Did them both walk me
Speaker 1: through the potential minefield that the Cowboys are going to
Speaker 1: have to deal deal with? First? On safeties? So this
Speaker 1: this was a fun exercise. The Cowboys pick twenty sixth
Speaker 1: in the round, fifty eighth overall, twenty five teams in
Speaker 1: front of them. So I went through. You know, the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys needs are out there right right. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: list of visitors may not scientific, but more or less
Speaker 1: is out there. Well in this day and age, that's
Speaker 1: that's a thing for damn near everybody, right. So I
Speaker 1: just went through and looked as I just wanted to
Speaker 1: know of the twenty five teams going in front of Dallas,
Speaker 1: who has similar team needs and how much of a
Speaker 1: priority are they? Okay, So I came up with Arizona
Speaker 1: at thirty three. That's a safety need. They're they're hunting
Speaker 1: defensive tackles and safeties. Indianapolis at thirty four has a
Speaker 1: safety need. I believe they've I mean, Abram was mocked
Speaker 1: to them. Didn't you mock them, Abram? Or was that
Speaker 1: somebody else staying so? Yes? So safety need in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle need in Oakland at thirty five, big safety
Speaker 1: need in Seattle at thirty seven after they traded with
Speaker 1: um who'd they do that deal with last night? Giants? Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you Giants. Uh. Tampa Bay at thirty nine has
Speaker 1: a D tackle need. They're trying to get rid of
Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy. Uh. Then you skip down a little bit.
Speaker 1: Detroit at forty three has a safety need. The Rams
Speaker 1: have it needs at D tackle they lost sue and
Speaker 1: safety they lost LaMarcus Joiner. Then there's Indie again, so
Speaker 1: that's another potential problem spot with safety. Carolina has a
Speaker 1: safety need. Cleveland has a defensive tackle need that they
Speaker 1: traded Gibral Peppers. True, Minnesota has both at fifty Tennessee
Speaker 1: has a safety need at fifty one, said both, yes, okay.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia has a safety need at fifty three, and then
Speaker 1: they pick again at fifty seven. So by my tally,
Speaker 1: that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
Speaker 1: ten eleven, roughly twelve teams that have a need at
Speaker 1: a spot, particularly safety, but they have a need at
Speaker 1: one of the spots where you would prefer to draft.
Speaker 1: So what did I do after that? Did I take
Speaker 1: it another level deeper? Brian Robs, I sure as hell did. Okay.
Speaker 1: I went and looked at the players these teams have
Speaker 1: brought in, right, which we know how much the Cowboys
Speaker 1: value their thirty visits absolutely so. The Arizona Cardinals only
Speaker 1: brought in Jonathan Abram, he's gone. The Indianapolis Colts brought
Speaker 1: in Abraham and Chauncey Gardner Johnson. Okay, so that makes
Speaker 1: a little sense right there. That's that's gonna be probably
Speaker 1: clear for the Cowboys right there. The Raiders are another
Speaker 1: team that looked looked at Chauncey Gardner. Uh, Seattle, this
Speaker 1: this scares you if you want a safety. I think
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks brought in Chauncey Gardner, Johnson, Taylor Rap,
Speaker 1: and Wan Thornhill. Okay, so Seattle went for they're they're hunting.
Speaker 1: They went four hunting, they went full cowboys on it.
Speaker 1: And Thornhill I think fits perfectly what they do. You
Speaker 1: can play corner, play safety, versatile. Okay. That Seattle pick
Speaker 1: in front of in front of Dallas happens to be
Speaker 1: at thirty seven, right, yes, that's that's okay, That's that's
Speaker 1: when we need to keep an eye on. Right there.
Speaker 1: The Rams are another team that should scare you. They
Speaker 1: brought in Taylor Rap and one Thornhill. Okay, they're at
Speaker 1: forty five. Okay, Uh, Philadelphia, they are also fans of Chauncey.
Speaker 1: They are also fans of Thornhill. Okay, that's at fifty
Speaker 1: three and also at fifty seven, bright ahead of you
Speaker 1: and we in our mock trap, we had them taken
Speaker 1: Thornhill at fifty seven if I'm right about that. Okay,
Speaker 1: And this, This is just for you, Brian. The New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints they pick after the Cowboys. They brought in
Speaker 1: Taylor Rap They also brought in your guy, Joe Wan Williams.
Speaker 1: Just that's a little land yap for there. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 1: Then on the defensive side, defensive line, we're just we're
Speaker 1: educated guessing here, but I think they're good educated guesses. Um,
Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson and Tristan Hill. Right, these are the names
Speaker 1: that we tie to the Cowboys. I'm fascinated by this.
Speaker 1: A lot of love for Jayleen Ferguson. Cardinals brought him in,
Speaker 1: Colts brought him in, Raiders brought him in. Um, the
Speaker 1: Rams brought him in. They had too because he wasn't
Speaker 1: at the combine. Right, So yeah, that is a really
Speaker 1: good point, Dane. The Philadelphia Eagles brought him in as well.
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill. Okay, interesting, not a not a name that
Speaker 1: you that I found as often Okay, put it that way, okay, Um,
Speaker 1: But two that really jumped off the page to me.
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns and the Eagles. Okay, So the Eagles
Speaker 1: who picked twice, yeah, okay, so the Cleveland Browns will
Speaker 1: be picking Okay, so the Tristan Hill is at Cleveland
Speaker 1: and that's at forty nine. And then also you said
Speaker 1: the Eagles who are twice right, it's fifty three and
Speaker 1: fifty seven. I believe. Okay, yeah, you're absolutely right about that, um.
Speaker 1: And then from following from following Patriots writers, I know
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill is a name that gets brought up in
Speaker 1: New England as well. Okay, and they picked before the
Speaker 1: Cowboys at number where are they picked? Well, they pick
Speaker 1: at sixty four, but don't before they have a pick
Speaker 1: at fifty at fifty six, there we go, right, So
Speaker 1: all right, So that's that's the potential field. That's the
Speaker 1: mine field that if you're the Cowboys, we welcome to
Speaker 1: the fray. Jeff Cavanaugh and Kevin kat Turner both will
Speaker 1: be involved with our coverage tonight. We're simulcasting with one
Speaker 1: oh five three the Fan. Jeff will anchor the coverage
Speaker 1: from that, but we'll all be a part of what's
Speaker 1: going on. Gentlemen, we're talking about potential minefields. If the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are interested in going up. If you're you want
Speaker 1: a safety or a defensive tackle, I'll start with you,
Speaker 1: Kevin Turner, Uh are you okay with going up to
Speaker 1: get either a safety or a defensive tackle that but
Speaker 1: I think that's where we have the next two right
Speaker 1: right determine our fate. So I feel very good about,
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of sitting back watching patiently, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe anxiously. Yes, And then you get to forty three
Speaker 1: forty four, you need to be ready to get out
Speaker 1: of your comfort zone and make a decision. Kind of
Speaker 1: feel like the draft of the Cowboys is going to
Speaker 1: start right there. I think at forty probably forty one
Speaker 1: that's at Denver. But there again, there's these teams that
Speaker 1: there's a couple of teams early David talked about defensive
Speaker 1: tackle being a need at Oakland at thirty five and
Speaker 1: then also Tampa Bay at thirty nine. Jeff, uh, you're
Speaker 1: knowing you you're not really totally on board with the
Speaker 1: going up if it's Tristan Hill. If that's the case,
Speaker 1: I think I'm on board with just waiting until you
Speaker 1: have to go up. Yeah, I think I'm on board
Speaker 1: with just waiting until you have to go up, Because
Speaker 1: you come into tonight and I'm looking at a board
Speaker 1: that's full of eight to ten secondary guys that I'm
Speaker 1: ready to pick at fifty eight. So you guys are
Speaker 1: talking about the minefield, but I think I would just
Speaker 1: sit there and start walking through it, you know, until
Speaker 1: I lose seven or eight of my guys. Now I know, hey,
Speaker 1: if we want to dance there, we got to give
Speaker 1: something up. But until that happens to me, I think
Speaker 1: I'm just an interested observer. I can look down and
Speaker 1: be really comfortable with one, two, three, four of the
Speaker 1: safeties that are still alive. I can look at six
Speaker 1: of the corners that are still alive. I got ten dbs.
Speaker 1: I would be happy with being Dallas Cowboys. So I'm
Speaker 1: not in a hurry right now. I'm glad. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you said it that way because the fun disconnect, which
Speaker 1: we learned during the mock draft that we did on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: is Jeffrey general manager Kavanaugh wants nothing to do with
Speaker 1: picking Tristan Hill. There's my team. Jeffrey Kavanaugh. He's just
Speaker 1: and you should like you put in the work. He's
Speaker 1: got his own opinions about what he wants and whether
Speaker 1: or not they're shared by Dallas Cowboys is a completely
Speaker 1: different man. Okay, Dave, thank you very much. Guys. We're
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Speaker 1: in this room. So welcome everybody. Jeff Cavana alongside Dane Brugler,
Speaker 1: Brian brought us Kevin Turner, Dave Hellman, guys that put
Speaker 1: in a ton of work to get ready for this
Speaker 1: day of the draft, to get ready for the tomorrow
Speaker 1: part of the draft. And we're here waiting for the
Speaker 1: draft to get underway and we'll watch these picks come
Speaker 1: off from a Cowboys perspective, but we're also here to
Speaker 1: do the draft. Yeah, we're gonna do the draft. No,
Speaker 1: we will do the draft. That's one of the great
Speaker 1: things about the h And by the way, welcome to you,
Speaker 1: to you and k KT for us. Yeah, I heard
Speaker 1: you guys did a super job on your half yesterday
Speaker 1: the first round. Sure, a little bit surprises going on there,
Speaker 1: but excited to have you here for the start of
Speaker 1: this round because the Cowboys actually get to make some
Speaker 1: picks today. Yeah, it's always an intense rivalry on Thursday,
Speaker 1: but on Friday we make up and we all join
Speaker 1: together to be basically the Avengers of draft coverage. I
Speaker 1: like that and so fitting at reference helmet of course
Speaker 1: is aunt Man here, so I'm the WASP. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind getting started with Dane Brugler. We have our board,
Speaker 1: our team board that you do Dane Brugler when you
Speaker 1: look at your top one hundred or your draft board.
Speaker 1: Who are the top players available? Who are the guys
Speaker 1: that you think are going real early today? We have
Speaker 1: a couple. Offensive lineman Cody Ford, the right tackle for
Speaker 1: the Sooners, who some teams have him on the board
Speaker 1: asn't guard surprise he felt out of the first round.
Speaker 1: He's available here. Juwan Taylor from Florida. A lot of
Speaker 1: people thought he'd be a top fifteen pick. Some teams
Speaker 1: flagged the knee. How does that affect him and where
Speaker 1: he'll end up today? And then we talk about three
Speaker 1: positions that I think early second round we're gonna see runs, safeties, corners,
Speaker 1: wide receivers. We're gonna see We didn't see many of
Speaker 1: those guys in the first round, so we're gonna see
Speaker 1: a lot of them here in the earliest part of
Speaker 1: the second round, probably starting with the first pick in Arizona.
Speaker 1: They could use one of each of those positions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, guys, I'm looking at the board that my
Speaker 1: top one hundred, and he's right about this offensive tackles,
Speaker 1: you know, with you talk about with Jowan Taylor, then
Speaker 1: I kind of float over at those corners. That was
Speaker 1: something last night that was really and we wrote about
Speaker 1: this for Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I was surprised that
Speaker 1: I had three. As much as this league likes to pass,
Speaker 1: I had three first round corners still sitting on my board.
Speaker 1: And I usually am pretty good at evaluate in a corner,
Speaker 1: but if you look at my first two rounds, I'm
Speaker 1: in a point where I have six guys available, and
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a run. I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those things where teams are like
Speaker 1: going the value of guys like you know, Byron Murphy
Speaker 1: at Greedy Williams, you know, and Rock Your Sin is
Speaker 1: just going to be too much for teams. I mean
Speaker 1: the team. I look at a team like the Raiders,
Speaker 1: that's kind of our adopted team. You know, at thirty five,
Speaker 1: the Raiders have a really a possibility on you know,
Speaker 1: if they would have taken Sweat. I think at seven
Speaker 1: they could have taken four first round picks, you know,
Speaker 1: at thirty five, because I think they're you know, whoever,
Speaker 1: they could take somebody out of this first round. You
Speaker 1: know that's still on this board and you're like going, WHOA,
Speaker 1: this team just really helped themselves or great, bet that
Speaker 1: whoever they take will well, you can't count on that
Speaker 1: with the Raiders, clearly after that I saw yesterday. But
Speaker 1: I mean that we've talked about earlier, and you and
Speaker 1: Dane both have seven eight guys that you had in
Speaker 1: your top thirty two yeah that are still available. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and the runs are gonna they gotta be on the
Speaker 1: small guys because I'm looking as we're crossing off on
Speaker 1: our board as they pick all these guys one droo, three, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 1: thirteen front seven players in one corner. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: we had in the first round, and we kind of
Speaker 1: saw it coming. We knew where it was top heavy
Speaker 1: in this draft. But still one corner gone, that many
Speaker 1: front seven. That's gotta put the talent poll at corner
Speaker 1: being now towards the top. The other thing to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on is the quarterbacks. Drew lock we thought
Speaker 1: he'd go last night in the first round. He doesn't.
Speaker 1: He's still available. The Raiders, the Dolphins. Two possibilities there.
Speaker 1: The Panthers, where does Drew Locke go today? And then
Speaker 1: a quarterback who's technically not in his draft class by
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, does he get traded at night. Is there
Speaker 1: a spot for him where Arizona gets a deal done
Speaker 1: for maybe a second round pick. The Josh Rosen conversation
Speaker 1: is definitely a big part of tonight's coverage. Got the
Speaker 1: Raiders at thirty five, Denver forty one, Cincinnatty at forty two.
Speaker 1: If you want to throw them out, there's a team
Speaker 1: that might want to take a look at a future
Speaker 1: quarterback swinging miss because hours ago he was saying he
Speaker 1: thinks the Miami thing is going to get done for
Speaker 1: their two. Well I think Miami, Yeah, Miami sitting there
Speaker 1: at forty eight. So there's still time as this, uh
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we'll get some type of breaking news
Speaker 1: yet as far as I know, but just holding out
Speaker 1: for more, maybe you know, wait till the last possible second.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be the second time the Cardinals floated some stuff
Speaker 1: out there, or it wouldn't be the first time they
Speaker 1: floated some stuff out there this week. It's so crazy, though,
Speaker 1: you go all the way back to this whole process.
Speaker 1: You go to the Senior Bowl and all the reports
Speaker 1: and stories or John Elway is in love with Drew
Speaker 1: Luck and I got Denver there at forty one who
Speaker 1: traded back last night at ten, and they're sitting there
Speaker 1: at forty one again Oakland at thirty five, where they
Speaker 1: really think about Derek Carr. It is a contract they
Speaker 1: can get out of pretty easily, So maybe we get
Speaker 1: some action early in the second round to go get
Speaker 1: Drew Luck. I thought someone would do it last night
Speaker 1: just to get the fifth year. I was very surprised
Speaker 1: that didn't happen. You wonder how much it is they
Speaker 1: don't want to hurt their quarterbacks on rosters. You don't
Speaker 1: want to hurt their feelings. You wonder about that. Joe Flacco, Faco,
Speaker 1: I understand. I just went through this in Baltimore. I
Speaker 1: understood John Elway think twice about drafting a quarterback because
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to put Flacco through it. And I
Speaker 1: agree with you, it is not a good idea. What
Speaker 1: if they told Joe, I'm really sorry, but the last
Speaker 1: five years of your career shows that I should probably
Speaker 1: be bringing in competition. How does he have kid, John
Speaker 1: Elway bringing a quarterback? That's the next question. There you
Speaker 1: go another layer to the to the conversation. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's gonna be interesting to see where Locke
Speaker 1: ends up tonight. I think I'd rather draft somebody that
Speaker 1: can help Joe Flacco than try to talk myself into
Speaker 1: a number of forty one overall quarterback being the guy.
Speaker 1: And hey, we're broadcasting for a team that drafted Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: but that is the exception and not the rule. And
Speaker 1: you're working with a guy that was have failed at
Speaker 1: finding a quarterback back in the day. I mean, we
Speaker 1: would have killed to have a Dak Prescott show up
Speaker 1: on that board. Hard to find, you know, it is.
Speaker 1: It's a very do you guys ever have a higher
Speaker 1: pick to try to invest We had a second round,
Speaker 1: we had second and third round picks. We just decided
Speaker 1: we were trying to play baseball here instead of drafting
Speaker 1: football players. Well, second and third round, you're usually not
Speaker 1: going to hit either. Well, the vast majority of these
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league or top ten picks, aren't they.
Speaker 1: Joe Montana was a three. Well, I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: there's no excuse. You know, if you evaluate the position
Speaker 1: the right way, there's no excuse you should be able
Speaker 1: to find a quarterback. I know, it's it's tough, the
Speaker 1: traits are tough, and all that, but that's the way
Speaker 1: it goes. Hey, Jeff, looks like we're at the commissioner
Speaker 1: is at the podium right now, so let's see what
Speaker 1: we are going here. Music good in ning. Welcome tonight too,
Speaker 1: of the two thousan nineteen NFL draft. More than two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand fans we're here with us last night. Thank
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Speaker 1: legend Eddie George and country music superstar and Titans band
Speaker 1: Tim McCraw. Guy. Ah, yeah, all right, Nashville. He'll see
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Speaker 1: on the movietops. Yeah. That. It couldn't be possible. About
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much and tightened up in Nashville. Thank
Speaker 1: you for being such a great city. I'm so proud
Speaker 1: of this city and so proud of everybody here. Thank
Speaker 1: y'all for coming out and supporting us. This has been
Speaker 1: a fantastic guilt for our city. And like Eddie said,
Speaker 1: tighten up and we'll be back here to listen to
Speaker 1: Tim later tonight. So you guys ready to guy. So
Speaker 1: the second round is now officially open. The Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: are on the clock. Thanks Roger. What are the odds
Speaker 1: that Roger Goodell is there to see Tim McGraw after
Speaker 1: round three is over? Slimon none? All right, well, finally
Speaker 1: we are on the clock. The beauty of these this
Speaker 1: round and the next round is I believe we'll get
Speaker 1: seven minutes per pick and then five minutes per pick.
Speaker 1: Yes we do. We don't just sit here and stare
Speaker 1: at each other and wait for something to happen. It's
Speaker 1: fast and furious, and the Cardinals are ready to rock
Speaker 1: and roll. After the Cardinals will be the Indianapolis Colts
Speaker 1: at two thirty four, the Oakland Raiders at two thirty five,
Speaker 1: and the San Francisco forty nine ers at two thirty six.
Speaker 1: All right, let's set it up around the room. Who
Speaker 1: do you have is your guys at the very very
Speaker 1: top and the Arizona Cardinals with what they're needing and
Speaker 1: where we think we might be going here well, and
Speaker 1: top players on my board the offensive linemen we talked
Speaker 1: about Jowan Taylor, Cody Ford. Byron Murphy's my number three
Speaker 1: best player available, the corner from Washington who could play inside,
Speaker 1: could play outside. Probably best in zone coverage. If you're
Speaker 1: a shorter, slower corner. And Byron Murphy is by NFL
Speaker 1: standards at four to five five and under five to eleven,
Speaker 1: you better be good everything else. I think he is.
Speaker 1: He's competitive, he's instinctive, the ball skills are outstanding, the
Speaker 1: toughness to help out and run support. So Byron Murphy
Speaker 1: has to be an attractive player here if they want
Speaker 1: to go dB help out their secondary. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a team that's moving to an odd front too, so
Speaker 1: you have to think about do they have the type
Speaker 1: of linemen that are able to do that. I think
Speaker 1: they're going to need some interior offensive line. I know
Speaker 1: Jeff Assume Dave was talking about them as a team
Speaker 1: that was looking at tackle exactly, So kind of keep
Speaker 1: an eye on that wide receiver is another look as well.
Speaker 1: And then outside linebacker again, a team going to a
Speaker 1: three to four keep an eye on adding those types
Speaker 1: of players as the night wears on for the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think about those offensive tackles. Cody Ford for
Speaker 1: that offense might not be a good fit. It feels
Speaker 1: like it might not be a good fit. Like I'm
Speaker 1: looking at those into your guys, Elton Jenkins, Eric McCoy
Speaker 1: still on the board, or do you just say you
Speaker 1: know it, screw it. We got Kyler pick one, let's
Speaker 1: go h DK metcalf or someone like that. Calvin Harmon,
Speaker 1: let's just go that route the board to start the
Speaker 1: second round with the party. Maybe it's too convenient because
Speaker 1: he went to Arizona State. But I wonder if the
Speaker 1: Patriots snatched Nikkil Harry right out from under the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Last night, Nikkil said that he wasn't falling past thirty three, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had an idea that he was going to stay
Speaker 1: in that area. But yeah, Well, if they still want
Speaker 1: to go receiver, plenty of talented receivers here A J. Brown,
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, I mean at Paris Campbell. So if they
Speaker 1: want to go receiver, certainly some talented ones available. I
Speaker 1: think the receiver group is probably I mean, that's one
Speaker 1: of the best groups that we're gonna see. Probably what's
Speaker 1: the high side that we could see over the course
Speaker 1: of the next two rounds. We can see ten of
Speaker 1: these guys go. We could see a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: these guys go, because like I feel like trying to
Speaker 1: guess their order is really really tough. Harry at thirty
Speaker 1: two last night, I was like, I say, a receiver,
Speaker 1: maybe a J. Brown. Maybe if you go through five
Speaker 1: names of maybe to try to figure out which one
Speaker 1: is it gonna be. And it's it's kind of a
Speaker 1: flavor thing, Brian, like you talk about which kind do
Speaker 1: you want? Yeah, which flavor do you want? Again, the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals are on the clock. We're at of these
Speaker 1: wide receivers. You're right, Jeff. The order in which I
Speaker 1: don't think there's anybody has any real consistency of this order,
Speaker 1: you know, especially when there was no first round pick.
Speaker 1: It looks like the pick is in for the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: So we'll see the commissioner walking up to the podium
Speaker 1: here very shortly. Can't wait to see him. So like
Speaker 1: even our board, there's DK Metcalf, Harmon, AJ Brown, Deebo,
Speaker 1: Samuel Nikkil Harry who I forgot to cross off last night.
Speaker 1: We have, but he's the one who was the wide
Speaker 1: receiver that comes off the board. So who knows what
Speaker 1: order they'll come often, And the Arizona Cardinals have needs.
Speaker 1: It sounds like at the positions that pretty much all
Speaker 1: the players at the top of the board are good. Well,
Speaker 1: they have needs. Especially their first pick wasn't a need.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying they the first
Speaker 1: overall pick was not a need for the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: How yeah, how often does that happen? I just think
Speaker 1: that's the coaching change. Well, it has to be the
Speaker 1: coaching change. And that's a unique situation when the worst
Speaker 1: team in the league doesn't drift for need because you
Speaker 1: need everything. That was the thing, and that's why your
Speaker 1: best off taking the best player because you were the
Speaker 1: worst roster for a reason. You had the first pick
Speaker 1: for a reason. Take the best player who's most going
Speaker 1: to impact your team. That's that's not a bad strategy
Speaker 1: to have. So, well, you know Larry Fitzgerald, you're talking
Speaker 1: about receiver. You know Larry Fitzgerald. He might play for
Speaker 1: one hundred years. I think there's sixteenth season in the league,
Speaker 1: so you know it'd be nice if they could grab somebody.
Speaker 1: You know, a young receiver, have him learned from Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: You know Christian Kirk last year, Christian Kirk exactly. And
Speaker 1: then you know Chad Williams is also a guy. Kevin White,
Speaker 1: it was a guy. So picks in Commissier's I believe
Speaker 1: someone is approaching the podium. We've got guest pickers. Goodell's
Speaker 1: already hand in it. Afe. Okay, here we go. We
Speaker 1: have the thirty third pick in the twin of nineteen
Speaker 1: NFL drought the Arizona Cardinals. Alec Byron Murphy. D Wise,
Speaker 1: we're talking about all these wide receivers. Yeah, we're talking
Speaker 1: about the corners as well. Byron Murphy is going to
Speaker 1: be the guy that goes to Arizona right around the
Speaker 1: spot where I think we would have pegged him to
Speaker 1: be picked. Thought he might have gone late yesterday. But
Speaker 1: to see him going right now. I love Byron. I
Speaker 1: love the tape on Byron Murphy. I know the size
Speaker 1: is not ideal, maybe the man coverage is not ideal,
Speaker 1: but you know what, hey kind of like his teammate
Speaker 1: Taylor rap. Maybe my forty times not the best, and
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not a huge guy. But if you want
Speaker 1: to ask about the ability to play the position, the
Speaker 1: change of direction, how easy the movement skills are, Byron
Speaker 1: Murphy's pretty darn good. Trust the tape, Hey, that's what
Speaker 1: you have. A Byron Murphy, a player who you love,
Speaker 1: the toughness, you love the competitiveness that he plays with.
Speaker 1: And he you want to get defensive backs, they get
Speaker 1: their hand on the football, help create turnovers. He does that.
Speaker 1: And for a player who read shirt sophomore because he
Speaker 1: red shirted his first year when Washington had all those
Speaker 1: dbs like Kevin King and Sidney Jones and all those
Speaker 1: guys he red shirted, only has twenty starts. But for
Speaker 1: a guy that's so young, he has such an advanced
Speaker 1: understanding of coverage, putting himself in a position to make plays.
Speaker 1: He finds a way to get his hand on the football.
Speaker 1: Speaking of you know, you just mentioned the dbs that
Speaker 1: had come out of Washington, I wondered what the impact
Speaker 1: of Buddha Baker on that roster had, which you know,
Speaker 1: obviously you're not going to make decisions based on your
Speaker 1: your starters. But they were teammates, were they not? I wonder.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they were at some point, whether they were
Speaker 1: drafts people. Yeah, you also think about trade rumors though,
Speaker 1: Like yesterday we saw that Chris Harris talk makes you wonder,
Speaker 1: are they trying to dangle Patrick Peterson and go ahead
Speaker 1: and move that. We've seen rumors with him today. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if maybe they've got something in the
Speaker 1: works with Patrick Peterson that could It's so funny because
Speaker 1: they have, how do you say this kindly, a really
Speaker 1: bad roster, but they're gonna ship off their quarterback and
Speaker 1: maybe their best playerbuild. I wonder, I wonder. I mean,
Speaker 1: cornerback is a position that you can play late into
Speaker 1: your career, especially when you're somebody like Patrick Peterson. And
Speaker 1: I would assume he wants to leave Arizona because he
Speaker 1: wants to go be on a good team. But you've
Speaker 1: got Kyler Murray. Why don't you believe in Kyler? Maybe
Speaker 1: he does, like maybe maybe this draft will change his mind.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I have no idea. I'd be fascinating
Speaker 1: if one of the top three cornerbacks in the league
Speaker 1: changed teams this weekend. Maybe tried to get out of
Speaker 1: town because of Rosen. Another Rosen's gonna be gone. He'll
Speaker 1: stick around. It puts the Indianapolis Colts on the clock.
Speaker 1: That pick is in for the Colts. Then after them
Speaker 1: will be the Oakland Raiders, San Francisco, Seattle and Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: So we're waiting for the Colts. It looks like team
Speaker 1: needs for them. Looking at cornerback, here's another they're making
Speaker 1: this pick, which is kind of an upset, right, It
Speaker 1: is a little bit an upset that quarterback. Looking at
Speaker 1: edge rusher and safety and wide receiver would be needs
Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Colts. J Brown in I think that
Speaker 1: would be a natural fit in that offense. It would
Speaker 1: be such a good fit. T Y Hilton out there,
Speaker 1: I think you a J Brown worked the underneath and
Speaker 1: run after catch. That would be such a great fit.
Speaker 1: They did such a nice job last year and upgrading
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Help out your quarterback. Why don't you
Speaker 1: help out your quarterback again? Get him a target like
Speaker 1: AJ Brown. I think that'd do him. Wonders k we'll
Speaker 1: talk about again. You guys kind of focused on targets.
Speaker 1: Talk about what it's maybe going on at cornerbacks though maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean that was one of the things I listen
Speaker 1: to that as their number one need. I mean, they
Speaker 1: need a legitimate starter there at corner, don't they rock
Speaker 1: y'all Sin Greedy Williams two guys on my board right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Evra Flews the defensive coordinator there, want to cover them
Speaker 1: up on the back end. I think cornerback makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense for this team. I don't you like
Speaker 1: better between Greedy and rock yourself? I mean I had
Speaker 1: Greedy graded a little bit higher, but I think Rock
Speaker 1: your Sin is. I mean, they're they were so close.
Speaker 1: Well let's go to podium and find out who it is.
Speaker 1: Six times Football Super Bowl forty one champion two thousand
Speaker 1: and eleven to nice jacket. But no, your AFC South
Speaker 1: teams don't notice. Oh boy, we're back. Okay, we all back.
Speaker 1: I know you're not born. Oh come on, Tennessee, y'all
Speaker 1: didn't played the coast twenty times and ten years and
Speaker 1: you don't won three games? Oh my word, oh my word.
Speaker 1: For the Drew Pearson what the thirty four kick and
Speaker 1: a two thousand and nineteen NFL draft the Indianapolis Coast
Speaker 1: select Rock you Sin DP Temple. There you go, There
Speaker 1: we go. It's perfectly with Chris Ballard what he preaches.
Speaker 1: Rock your Sin is again you want corners to get
Speaker 1: their hands on the football, and Rock your sen I
Speaker 1: think is the best corner or in this draft with
Speaker 1: us back to the football and playing through the hands
Speaker 1: of receivers and so good call there by, kat We're
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna have a lot of This is very
Speaker 1: unfortunate for me personally, who said I got ten dbs.
Speaker 1: I'm watching thinking fifty eight. What are we tak well,
Speaker 1: two down with two picks into this track, Well, we
Speaker 1: gotta take a quick break and we'll come back for
Speaker 1: the next picks. We'll keep this going and break down
Speaker 1: exactly where we are in the NFL Draft. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back with more from Round two of the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft on one oh five three the Fan and we
Speaker 1: should be back here with the Internet side of things.
Speaker 1: So again, guys, yeah, Rock you Sin, Katie, I'll give
Speaker 1: you an opportunity since you made a nice little call there.
Speaker 1: Dan gave us a little thumbnail about Rock you Sin.
Speaker 1: How about something you thought about him as six foot
Speaker 1: one ninety um moves really well, though I mean you
Speaker 1: can see him with Ryan, He'll throw his body around.
Speaker 1: I saw the thing I like, my name's is tough.
Speaker 1: You know some of these corners you see him not
Speaker 1: really want to go in there and tackle a little bit.
Speaker 1: He was okay, throwing his throwing his body around every
Speaker 1: once in a while, a little bit grabby, but you
Speaker 1: know that's that's okay, might get flight a little bit,
Speaker 1: It's okay. Do you like the length? Do you like
Speaker 1: the quitness and short spurts and just competitive player. I
Speaker 1: mean I saw a tough player, kind of like we
Speaker 1: saw DeAndre Baker who went last night. The tough guy
Speaker 1: who's gonna make it uncomfortable on wide receivers all day long. Okay,
Speaker 1: it looks like we have a trade. Is an offensive tackle? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it has to be. It has to be an offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is coming up to this spot. This will be Oakland,
Speaker 1: Oakland spot at thirty five. Everyone in their mother thought
Speaker 1: Jacksonville was taking a tackle at seven, and they probably
Speaker 1: were until Josh Allen got pushed down the board. Yes,
Speaker 1: exactly right. I just would be shocked if this isn't
Speaker 1: them getting The whole world mocked him. Jowan Taylor seven
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get him at thirty. No, the real
Speaker 1: upset is gonna be when this is Cody Ford. Okay,
Speaker 1: well if if if you talk about Taylor, then because
Speaker 1: that was something that you mock, you kind of talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about a thumbnail on on Taylor's way. Um,
Speaker 1: I want to pass the ball on that. Because I
Speaker 1: wasn't the biggest fan of his tape. I thought I
Speaker 1: thought that he was a guy that he gosh, he
Speaker 1: went through the best of the best, really the guys
Speaker 1: that he had to block this year. But I thought
Speaker 1: that the speed guys gave him a little bit of trouble.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's a guy that on the right
Speaker 1: side there for Florida was rock solid. I think the
Speaker 1: most of the time you could see him get some movement.
Speaker 1: There's there's a little bit of everything that you would
Speaker 1: want from an offensive tackle. I just thought that when
Speaker 1: he went up against some of those premier speed guys
Speaker 1: that gave him a little bit of trouble. Baine Burglar,
Speaker 1: John Taylor. It rarely looks pretty. You know, he's not
Speaker 1: a technician. There's a lot of body to body block.
Speaker 1: Not the scouting report. I want to hear on the
Speaker 1: top forty. But he's productive, you know, I mean, he
Speaker 1: does a nice job of shielding the pocket. Uh, he's
Speaker 1: a guy with the contact balance as you want. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's powerful, he can move bodies. So uh here we
Speaker 1: got to pick at the podium right now, go ahead,
Speaker 1: let's go. What a great idea to have to trade
Speaker 1: the open Raiders have traded the thirty fifth pick to
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars with thy Fifi and in two thoy
Speaker 1: nineteen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Juwan Taylor Tack.
Speaker 1: So I had this in my first round MAK last
Speaker 1: night to the Jaguars. Do I get credit for that
Speaker 1: team in the Yeah, yeah, I think you got it.
Speaker 1: A nice little twenty eight spot difference. It happens. Yeah, absolutely. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, the knee, we had some knee concerns for
Speaker 1: some Tea was flagged with the knee for a lot
Speaker 1: of teams. And one of the few guys left remaining
Speaker 1: in that green room, they're happy to get his name called,
Speaker 1: and so we've still got Now the unfortunate part is
Speaker 1: we talk about all these good players that are left
Speaker 1: when we're talking about potential cowboy picks and this guy's
Speaker 1: and this guy's and look at this, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: so great. And of course, oh wow, the good players
Speaker 1: are going off the board really quickly. Who would have
Speaker 1: thought it's funny, because yeah, I mean, we thought we
Speaker 1: had it all hammered down last night and we were
Speaker 1: getting surprised after surprise. This is going so far exactly
Speaker 1: the way you would have predicted, that awesome corners that
Speaker 1: everyone had pegged his top twenty five picks. That's ready
Speaker 1: for him to get to fifty eight. Man, I don't
Speaker 1: think so the top. I mean, all we need now
Speaker 1: is for Greedy Williams to go, and like all of
Speaker 1: those big names from last night will be gone. For
Speaker 1: the most part, I was hopeful that we could get
Speaker 1: to a point where, even if Greedy Williams didn't make it,
Speaker 1: that it would take longer for those guys to go
Speaker 1: off of the board, so that I could have a
Speaker 1: dream of Sean Bunting at Central Michigan or Justin Lane
Speaker 1: making it all the way to fifty eight. But when
Speaker 1: we're seeing two of the first three picks being a
Speaker 1: corner and then a tackle going, it looks like my
Speaker 1: dreams are not in good shape, Brian, No they're not.
Speaker 1: And just to give you an idea the particulars of
Speaker 1: the trade real quick, if I could, The Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 1: trade the thirty eighth overall pick. They also send one
Speaker 1: O nine to the Raiders. The Raiders send thirty five
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville. They also send one forty which is a
Speaker 1: fifth round pick, and then they also send two thirty five,
Speaker 1: which was a pick from Seattle. So again the trades.
Speaker 1: The Raiders sent two picks. The Raiders sent two picks.
Speaker 1: That's what they did, so can you read them again?
Speaker 1: For yes, they pick up, the Raiders get thirty eight
Speaker 1: and one O nine. They ship, They ship thirty five,
Speaker 1: one forty and two thirty five. It's what they do.
Speaker 1: So in the end they actually make up pretty good
Speaker 1: ground getting that pick one O nine. One O nine
Speaker 1: was the deal that they were hunting. Guys, trading up
Speaker 1: is not that expensive this year? Well maybe really maybe
Speaker 1: the math maybe I'm wrong, and the math is going
Speaker 1: to say this works, But that sounds pretty cheap to
Speaker 1: move up three spots in the third. I'm sure the
Speaker 1: math will work out. Because these late picks are so
Speaker 1: I mean, they're worth basically nothing on the trade value charge, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it puts uh let's see here with uh San fr
Speaker 1: the clock their pick is in right now. That would
Speaker 1: mean Seattle would be behind them, and then Oakland, Tampa
Speaker 1: and Buffalo picks in for San Francisco. We can kind
Speaker 1: of talk about a little bit about what the what
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are looking at? Right there? A
Speaker 1: wide receiver, a corner again, and an offensive tackle. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of where we're at. Let's see if what
Speaker 1: does that offense look like? If you're looking for a
Speaker 1: wide receiver for San Francisco, which old miss guy would
Speaker 1: you like to have? Is that a fit for DK
Speaker 1: Metcalf or is that somewhere we'd rather work underneath with
Speaker 1: a J. Brown? Something that reminded at the combine DK
Speaker 1: Metcalf admitting that the interview with the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: is a little contentious. Oh, it sounds like a perfect fit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I don't know if DK Metcalf would be
Speaker 1: a great fit there, but I think a J. Brown
Speaker 1: would be an ideal fit for Kyle Shanahan and that offense.
Speaker 1: And if any team is a match for a J. Brown,
Speaker 1: does it also make them a match for Deebo Samuel
Speaker 1: because I kind of view him as full sized guy,
Speaker 1: good hands outside. Yeah, Ebo in my day two research,
Speaker 1: Debo is a guy the Niners brought to their facility
Speaker 1: in this process. So, well, don't take him. I've got
Speaker 1: plans for him. Dave and I have plans. We've got
Speaker 1: plans to be mad when the Cowboys don't get him.
Speaker 1: Is that your plan? I built a shrine. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sell it to you. I would buy it, Honestly, I
Speaker 1: would choose my guy man. So San Francisco will wait
Speaker 1: for that pick to be in and then the Seattle
Speaker 1: Seahawks will be on the clock. I show San Francisco
Speaker 1: as a team that could use wide receiver help, defensive
Speaker 1: line help, corner, OH line safety. What have they already
Speaker 1: done in this draft? Do they go, yeah, this would
Speaker 1: be a prime spot for a corner or a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I'll be pretty surprised if it's not one of those
Speaker 1: two positions, and I get great value in either one.
Speaker 1: Didn't you help with both spots? Greedy Williams still out there?
Speaker 1: They go wide receiver we mentioned, I mean Richard Sherman
Speaker 1: playing left corner for him, right now, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying a veteran guy that you know, could
Speaker 1: probably they could probably surely use some help healthy. He
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a liability at times. Keim Butler,
Speaker 1: some of these other big rangey receivers, or I do
Speaker 1: it all guy, the A. J. Brown's, the Deepo Samuel's
Speaker 1: exactly all make you know, a lot of sense for
Speaker 1: that passing game, which Kittle is kind of the featured
Speaker 1: guy there, man that do everything guy who can still
Speaker 1: be highly productive, go get you have eighty ninety catches,
Speaker 1: you know, early on, maybe not early on his career,
Speaker 1: but down the road. I've used Debo and AJ Brown
Speaker 1: as a guy who's gonna catch eighty balls for me
Speaker 1: a year. You know, I think that's a very good
Speaker 1: fit for Jimmy Garoppolo as well. Oh no, we got
Speaker 1: plans for these guys. And by the way, i'd like
Speaker 1: to welcome back the one, five three, the fan listeners. Well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna work to talk back and we're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to hear the spots later. Okay, all right, well,
Speaker 1: welcome back all of you listeners. Yes, well, we are
Speaker 1: in the second round here, we're in the fourth pick
Speaker 1: of the second round, waiting to see what the San
Speaker 1: Francisco pick is, and they're at the podium. We're at
Speaker 1: the podium with the forty nine. What did you mean tonight?
Speaker 1: Is the Marcus Cobb, son of longtime forty nine, a
Speaker 1: scout in NFL running back Reggie Cobb, legend, great man.
Speaker 1: This past weekend, Reggie passed away from a sudden heart attack.
Speaker 1: Please join us in a moment of silence in the
Speaker 1: honor of the laden Reggie Cobb and Anna, Reggie Kap
Speaker 1: and DeMarcus. I'm gonna give him him the opportunity to
Speaker 1: introduce the forty nine Ers, thirty six pick of the
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen NFL Draft. Thank you, Thank you guys. First
Speaker 1: of all, I think the NFL for allowing me to
Speaker 1: do this one thing, John Roger Goodell, They've really win
Speaker 1: above beyond for all this. But I know we are
Speaker 1: here for so with the thirty second pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen NFL Draft, the San Francis and forty nine
Speaker 1: is selected. Deebo Samuel No No. I refuse to accept
Speaker 1: that pick, and I'm not gonna write down that that happened.
Speaker 1: And we're just gonna pretend that it didn't as Deebo
Speaker 1: Samuel David Ice dream was gone. Jeff, this is actually
Speaker 1: a good thing. I'm glad it. How is that a
Speaker 1: good thing? It's a good thing, So we can accept
Speaker 1: whatever they pick. He was not going to be a
Speaker 1: Dallas cowboy. He was a visit. Why are we dismissing
Speaker 1: him while we focus on all the other visits. It's
Speaker 1: just because they want defenders. That's why they want defenders.
Speaker 1: It's written in the stars, It's written all over the walls,
Speaker 1: all over this place. And I just if Deebo had
Speaker 1: been there, I'm not convinced they would have taken him,
Speaker 1: which would have really upset me. So it's like it's
Speaker 1: like a fish, you know, like be like, let him
Speaker 1: go swim and carry on, go have a great future.
Speaker 1: He had the first three receivers off the board as
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown to kill, Harry and Deebo seeing me, that's
Speaker 1: exactly no, I was gonna that's a testament to this
Speaker 1: wide receiver class though no consensus. Well, and also look
Speaker 1: at it from the perspective of this team. They knew
Speaker 1: that this was gonna happen. They knew that this was coming.
Speaker 1: We've got a Tradin Again, Carolina is gonna come up
Speaker 1: to thirty seven. They're gonna take that pick from Seattle.
Speaker 1: Seattle move back on. Yeah, so Seattle's gonna move back
Speaker 1: and Carolina is gonna come up. But I did want
Speaker 1: to go back to the Cowboys knew what this receiver
Speaker 1: class looked like. They talked about it when they traded
Speaker 1: for a Mari Cooper. If we have a need at
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver and there's one available, and we
Speaker 1: know that the class coming up has no consensus top pick,
Speaker 1: we don't know if we'd have a first round graded
Speaker 1: wide receiver, it makes even more sense to just go
Speaker 1: get a guy. Where would a Mari Cooper go in
Speaker 1: this draft? Dane? Yeah? Top five? Yeah, probably top five? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean so even with the looming contract, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know you still take him that high. Absolutely. I mean
Speaker 1: I again, we didn't have a first round wide receiver
Speaker 1: in this draft. Yeah, it's great you would. You would
Speaker 1: have talked about him as a top I think a
Speaker 1: top five, top eight player for sure in this draft.
Speaker 1: So Carolina up now at pick thirty seven, graded up shocked.
Speaker 1: It was the Seahawks that traded away from that pick.
Speaker 1: Shaws what they had like four picks in this year's draft,
Speaker 1: and they're like, we're gonna turn this into as many
Speaker 1: as we can. Think they had five I think on
Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon, and they they're gonna end up with ten,
Speaker 1: probably eight coming into today. I think the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: gonna have to get into this mode as soon as
Speaker 1: possible of trying to acquire picks. It may not be
Speaker 1: this year, but it's gonna happen to him. Like Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson gets thirty five million dollars a year, what do
Speaker 1: you now need as many cheap contributors as you can find,
Speaker 1: because the Boys are about to be there. Could this
Speaker 1: be for a quarterback? Carolina gave up their second in
Speaker 1: their third to move up ten spots. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: someone they want. Yeah, Dane is absolutely right. Carolina's ships, Uh,
Speaker 1: Are Cam Newton that close to not be in their shoulder? Yeah?
Speaker 1: His shoulders messed up and they've been doing a lot
Speaker 1: of work on these these quarterbacks. So they try to
Speaker 1: get ahead. I mean who you're getting in front of.
Speaker 1: You're getting ahead of the Raiders, You're getting ahead of Denver.
Speaker 1: Do we know what the pick was? By the way,
Speaker 1: they need. They need to protect the seventy seven Dave Helmett,
Speaker 1: thank you, So Carolina Carolina gets picked forty seven and
Speaker 1: seventy seven, and the Seattle axcume they send uh, actually,
Speaker 1: that's right, and then Seattle's got seventy seven and forty seven.
Speaker 1: Carolina moves up to thirty seven, thirty seven. They need
Speaker 1: to protect their quarterbacks. To day for sorting that outfum Here,
Speaker 1: here we go selection at the podium, except rated at
Speaker 1: the thirty seven pick two the Carabinas. I'll be half
Speaker 1: a panther nation, the team that made my dream come
Speaker 1: true thirteen years ago. It's my honor, Tanna Juice with
Speaker 1: a thirty seven pick, Greg Little tackle oh miss, here
Speaker 1: we go. There's one of my guys. Okay, Carolinas or
Speaker 1: it's one of my guys. Do write by your MVP, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: don't get some blockers for this poor guy, Greg Little
Speaker 1: out of old Miss by way of Alan, Texas. By
Speaker 1: the way, this is another that's two picks in the
Speaker 1: top thirty seven for Alan High School. This year, when
Speaker 1: Bobby Evans gets drafted, there'll be another one. Hit me
Speaker 1: with the scouting report on Greg Little. What the Panthers
Speaker 1: are getting. Yeah, I think that he There are sometimes
Speaker 1: when you watch him and you think, Okay, this guy's
Speaker 1: a first round pick, and then you watch them other
Speaker 1: times and you're like, Okay, maybe not. He He's really
Speaker 1: blessed with the full skill set. He has the foot quickness,
Speaker 1: he has the relaxed punch, he has over thirty five
Speaker 1: inch arms. You just don't see the consistency with him,
Speaker 1: and you wish she was just showed a little bit
Speaker 1: more grit. It was a little more competitive as a finisher.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you have a guy who
Speaker 1: has all the tools to be a franchise left tackle
Speaker 1: in this league. The Panthers really thought about going Andre
Speaker 1: Dillard in the first round. Instead they went Brian Burns. Here,
Speaker 1: they get that left tackle they've been searching for. So
Speaker 1: they get two cornerstone pieces with the pass rusher from
Speaker 1: the first round, left tackle here in the second round.
Speaker 1: How would you grade what they've done so far? Brian
Speaker 1: with Brian Burns mid first Greg little early two. R's See,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not that's true. I'm not a Birds fan,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, I'm a little fan. Here's another
Speaker 1: trade going off here, let's trap. But I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what though, I do like the little pick though, I
Speaker 1: absolutely do like that though, and I and again I
Speaker 1: will admit that if I'm wrong about about Burns, I
Speaker 1: will absolutely admit that. We'll see Carolina has a great
Speaker 1: history though of being able to put pressure of the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Let's see if they can continue to do so. Oakland
Speaker 1: just traded this pick again. Yes, hello, if they're coming
Speaker 1: up from forty to thirty eight, they're just jumping Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay if that's where they're coming from. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. This okay, this is yeah, this is
Speaker 1: Oakland's pick, and they just now sent it again to Buffalo. Right,
Speaker 1: Buffalo's coming up buff If that's from forty, they're only
Speaker 1: jumping one team, is it Greedy Williams? Because they need
Speaker 1: a cornerback, they need offensive tackles. Is Cody Ford of
Speaker 1: possibility defensive end? I think yeah, I think we're looking
Speaker 1: at We're not a tight end that makes sense in
Speaker 1: this range? Right? IRV Smith? IRV could let me give
Speaker 1: you those numbers if I could, Dave? Yeah, sorry, Buffalo
Speaker 1: is uh now uh, let's see that's the Buffalo traits
Speaker 1: forty and they sent a fifth round pick, which is
Speaker 1: one fifty eight, so forty Okay, one fifty eight goes
Speaker 1: to Oakland as well, right, and they're going up a
Speaker 1: grand total of two spots to the Raiders run of
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay to take somebody. Yeah, Raiders. Raiders pick up
Speaker 1: one fifty eight. So that's uh. And that's a pick
Speaker 1: that Oakland initially had. By the way, let's take Drew
Speaker 1: Rock and push him and Josh Allen create the ultimate
Speaker 1: quarterback con ultimate cardinal situation. I'm kidding, obviously, but I'm
Speaker 1: also no. I mean, I've got I've got their needs.
Speaker 1: They drafted a d tackle yesterday. They got at Oliver,
Speaker 1: maybe one of my favorite picks in this draft. They
Speaker 1: need d end, they need corner, they need offensive tackle,
Speaker 1: they need tight end. Greedy Williams sounds like it makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Tackle makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: And I think those are probably two names right at
Speaker 1: the top of the guys that we have available. If
Speaker 1: you feel like you need to jump somebody to go
Speaker 1: get them, I could see it being Greedy or Cody Ford.
Speaker 1: I got Cody Ford higher on my board. I have
Speaker 1: him at the top one hundred. I got me number
Speaker 1: fifteen and I got greedy at seventeen. So either one'd
Speaker 1: be a pretty good value on them, either one of them,
Speaker 1: you know, to make this work. So so we'll wait
Speaker 1: on Buffalo. The fun part is that we're getting a
Speaker 1: lot of action and having to try to keep track
Speaker 1: of where all the spikes are going. This is what
Speaker 1: we expected the top ten to be. Well. Teams had
Speaker 1: a chance to sit on their board a little bit
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, all these names, they have
Speaker 1: all these first round names there, and I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the crazy thing. We had all
Speaker 1: those names, all those first round names, and now teams
Speaker 1: are like a whoa, whoa value here, let's go. I
Speaker 1: have one first round name left. That's Cody Ford. Cody Ford.
Speaker 1: I love Cody Ford, and so do I. He's a
Speaker 1: top twenty player on my board. Uh. I think the
Speaker 1: biggest reason why he felt a little bit of Some
Speaker 1: teams have him on the board a guard and not tackle,
Speaker 1: but I should. There's nothing on his tape that says
Speaker 1: he can't play right tackle for you, I've got actually
Speaker 1: three I get Mack Wilson is gonna kill me, I
Speaker 1: think is what happened. That's you and I. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have his tape, his first round tape, and we put
Speaker 1: him there, and we knew full well he wasn't getting
Speaker 1: picked yesterday. But we don't window dress, Brian. We put
Speaker 1: our board the way that we see the players. So
Speaker 1: mack Wilson got a first round grade the end. Don't
Speaker 1: laugh at me, Dave. I'm not laughing. I just I
Speaker 1: love you and I I love GM Kavanaugh. That's all.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna window dress the board, and you shouldn't.
Speaker 1: If we get on the clock and we see a
Speaker 1: first round grade available, I don't care what the league
Speaker 1: thinks about it, and we're taking him. We're gonna dance.
Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna do. What I love is that
Speaker 1: you'll never do that, like you'll never act. I planned
Speaker 1: to be a GM next year. You know what's going
Speaker 1: to screw that up? As Mayock picking Ferrell at number four. Now,
Speaker 1: media guys are gonna have a shot. It's Furrell, sir. Oh,
Speaker 1: now that's double. I'm in trouble now. Dane's gonna get
Speaker 1: the job because he knows how to pronounce all the names.
Speaker 1: So it was probably next in line to be fair well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because Brian would turn down the interview and tell him
Speaker 1: I hate all of you. I am a big fan
Speaker 1: of I've had my day in the sun. Brian would
Speaker 1: be like, how much time is available for fishing? Yes,
Speaker 1: not very much this time of year, not very much. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we're waiting to see the pick from Buffalo and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be at the podium right now. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take this pick and then we'll take our break. Let's
Speaker 1: see what Buffalo is doing. Fifteen Bills Man of the
Speaker 1: Year Wood lossom weight, a lot of weight. The Oakland
Speaker 1: Raiders have traded the thirty eighth pick to the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: With the thirty eighth pick in the twenty nineteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill select Cody Ford, tackle Oklahoma. To job boys,
Speaker 1: sometimes you just look at the very top of the
Speaker 1: board and you pick the guy that's there. So the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills come up for Cody Ford and are your
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen second round of the NFL Draft. Will continue
Speaker 1: in just a minute here on one oh five three
Speaker 1: the Fan, and we continue and we continue on with
Speaker 1: one oh five three the Fan. We'll work with them,
Speaker 1: but also we got our internet side of things. Um, guys,
Speaker 1: where kind of going through the kind of going through this.
Speaker 1: We've seeing a lot of action going on with these
Speaker 1: teams trading and then being involved. Uh you know, we
Speaker 1: we we again, it's all these first round grades. I
Speaker 1: think that people or these these players that we all
Speaker 1: thought had a lot of a lot of promise that
Speaker 1: that could be potential first round guys. But teams are
Speaker 1: teams are seeing that, and we're teams are being very
Speaker 1: aggressive here right now. I think that's where you talk
Speaker 1: about this draft though. There could be guys who we
Speaker 1: think should go to top twenty, or teams should think
Speaker 1: you should go top twenty, and other teams may around
Speaker 1: the league go that might take him in the fifth.
Speaker 1: You know, Like now we've hit that point of the
Speaker 1: draft where it's very much you know what do you like?
Speaker 1: You know? And I think this is interesting because you
Speaker 1: see the drop at tackle. This is where I think
Speaker 1: we've reached. Well, this is where I think the Tristan
Speaker 1: Hill discussion really comes into play because the drop at
Speaker 1: tackle pretty quickly after him, Zach Allen maybe is out
Speaker 1: there defensive tackle or defensive end, however you view him.
Speaker 1: Maybe Draymont Jones, Anthony Nelson, but like their names start
Speaker 1: thinning out pretty quickly. There still see a lot of
Speaker 1: names at cornerback. Now. I don't think the ones I
Speaker 1: really like are gonna last in the third round. But
Speaker 1: you can see where these teams might be thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: making these trades up here and the thirties, and this
Speaker 1: is where the Cowboys got active five years ago to
Speaker 1: go get to Marcus Lawrence that area, and you got
Speaker 1: a team sitting there. The next group of teams, obviously
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders are interested and just keep backing up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you know so, there's a team you might get
Speaker 1: to it forty if you in fact want to go there.
Speaker 1: You know, Denver was a team that did some early trading.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's never gonna trade, Detroit's never gonna trade. Maybe green Bay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know green Bay at forty four. If you're if
Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys, are you okay with how this has
Speaker 1: gone so far? Is everything kind of making you feel
Speaker 1: a bit better about your situation going forward? No? I mean,
Speaker 1: but you had to kind of see it coming, because
Speaker 1: as soon as we sat down, we talked about how
Speaker 1: there's some really good corners left, and there's some really
Speaker 1: good offensive tackles left that it's not going to be
Speaker 1: a secret. Teams are going to go get them. I
Speaker 1: was kind of earmarking the halfway point at forty five,
Speaker 1: where how many safeties do I still have on the
Speaker 1: board there, because that's when you really have to go
Speaker 1: how many of these safeties do I like? And am
Speaker 1: I willing to move up if they fall to fifty?
Speaker 1: Can I get away with just giving up my fourths?
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of trade inventory talk that
Speaker 1: we can start talking about, you know, later on in
Speaker 1: the draft. If your safeties are still there at forty five, well,
Speaker 1: it looks like the picks in Jeff for the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: again where at two thirty nine is where we're at
Speaker 1: right now, So that again this is this is one
Speaker 1: of the few teams it's uh, you know, they've had
Speaker 1: a couple of teams that have stood in their made
Speaker 1: picks and Tampa Bay will be the one to make
Speaker 1: it at this particular time. So so they've taken a
Speaker 1: linebacker in the first round. They went with Devin White
Speaker 1: from Elia. They go back to back LSU kids here,
Speaker 1: David Helmet. They absolutely could they love LSU guys. They
Speaker 1: had Kwan Alexander. They drafted Devin White. Greedy's got to
Speaker 1: be the best player left on most boards, right, am
Speaker 1: I crazy to think that? Yeah? I don't like I said.
Speaker 1: I think Dane's almost wiped out in his first round grades.
Speaker 1: I'm down again to mac Wilson and Greedy. So here
Speaker 1: we go, no more suspense. Who it is, Nashville, you
Speaker 1: are killing it this way nice. With a thirty ninth
Speaker 1: pick in the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneer selects Sean Bunting, DB's control Michigan cornerback. Love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was my cornerback. Though we'll talk about your cornerback
Speaker 1: end a little bit over there. Bunting is the first
Speaker 1: guy I've ever written about in my notes that said,
Speaker 1: I think he's offended if the wide receiver gets off
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. He loves the physical part of
Speaker 1: the game at the line of scrimmage, and he's athletic
Speaker 1: enough to match wide receivers in the route. But man,
Speaker 1: if you don't run your route with purpose, you will
Speaker 1: go out of bounds because Sean Bunting is not here
Speaker 1: to play around with you. I thought his tape was
Speaker 1: tons of fun to watch. Dan, you have any other
Speaker 1: thoughts about him covering Clauber corner. He's gonna escort receivers
Speaker 1: out of bounds, He's gonna run better routes than the receiver.
Speaker 1: He can get his hand on the football, high upside player.
Speaker 1: And I said it earlier a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: that if you want Sean Bunting, you have to get
Speaker 1: into the top forty to get him. And here he
Speaker 1: goes at number thirty nine. So nailed it. Love the fit, yep,
Speaker 1: good fit there. And now that puts the Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: on the clock here at forty. Yeah, the Raiders initially
Speaker 1: started the day at thirty five, and if it just
Speaker 1: kind of worked way down the board, making a couple
Speaker 1: of trades along the way to Jacksonville and then to Buffalo.
Speaker 1: So now they sit here, this is Buffalo's original pick
Speaker 1: at two forty. We'll see if in fact, again they've
Speaker 1: picked up some stuff, some capital at the end of
Speaker 1: the end of the draft to maybe not have to
Speaker 1: fight some teams in free agency a little bit. So
Speaker 1: you still have Drew Lock on the board at forty
Speaker 1: Denver at forty one. Drew lock time. I don't know
Speaker 1: this is this would be a good spot, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like these teams need quarterbacks. We're preparing to
Speaker 1: come back on the raid standby Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: Welcome back. It is one oh five three the Fan
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We are doing the draft
Speaker 1: for you here as we are at pick number forty
Speaker 1: in the second round, the Oakland Raiders are on the clock.
Speaker 1: They've got three minutes to pick, and we have had
Speaker 1: tons of trades, which is a lot of fun. But
Speaker 1: we were just talking about kind of what it means
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys in terms of watching the players are
Speaker 1: coming off this board and how does that make you feel, Dave,
Speaker 1: when you're watching the names that we're losing early in
Speaker 1: this draft. Some of the last picks Cody Ford Oklahoma
Speaker 1: tackle slash guard, Greg Little tackle old miss. We lost
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, another tackle, Juwan Taylor and two corners. How
Speaker 1: does that match up with what you'd like to see? Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's a fun reminder of like you know, your
Speaker 1: your hopes verse reality. Like you wake up on Friday
Speaker 1: morning and you're like, yeah, maybe these guys will slide
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be this crazy talent pool there for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, except there's thirty one other teams. And I
Speaker 1: think Dane made the point, you know they watch these guys,
Speaker 1: they know who's good. Well, if you're talking about the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: is as Dave went through in our pre draft show,
Speaker 1: you just avoided a team that needed a defensive tackle. Well,
Speaker 1: and that's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So now you're you're
Speaker 1: dealing with teams like Oakland. We have a defensive tackle
Speaker 1: need there. Now they're on the clock, so you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to avoid us some teams if in
Speaker 1: fact you're holding for that defensive table. Next team the
Speaker 1: next day, the next team after the Raiders will be
Speaker 1: all the way down at forty five, and that's the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. So if you could kind of find
Speaker 1: your way past this pick that's in going in right now,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's getting closer and closer and closer,
Speaker 1: but there's there's going to be that again. That minefield
Speaker 1: at forty nine with Cleveland fifty with Minnesota is another
Speaker 1: one you're gonna have to deal with as well. A
Speaker 1: very good point, which you know the Cowboys are watching
Speaker 1: their positions. But on the flip side, if you are
Speaker 1: hoping to have some of these top tier talents pushed
Speaker 1: down the board, that hope is evaporating quickly. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean other than Deebo Samuel, who we really didn't
Speaker 1: believe was ever going to be a cowboy, nobody that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had realistic aspirations of drafting is off the
Speaker 1: board so far tonight. Let me ask you this because Brian,
Speaker 1: you've said that they're hunting under tackles. They're looking for
Speaker 1: a three technique tackle. We know the name Tristan Hill
Speaker 1: from Central Florida. When we look at our board, we
Speaker 1: see Tristan Hill there with a third round grade and
Speaker 1: we also have Draymont Jones from Ohio State as a
Speaker 1: third round grade. Other than those two guys, I think
Speaker 1: that's almost a tier by itself right now, like you
Speaker 1: had the top tier of interior players to us at least,
Speaker 1: I think it's a two man tier at the next
Speaker 1: one that we're kind of tracking throughout this round. Now,
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right there, and you know you want to
Speaker 1: if you know the whole thing about these distraft is,
Speaker 1: you know, Kat, they don't really care what you and
Speaker 1: I think right now, they don't. I mean that's that
Speaker 1: we're here doing radio the best we can to investigate
Speaker 1: and educate. And you know, they might have Hill as
Speaker 1: a much higher player on their board than you know,
Speaker 1: you and I talk about, but the third round grade.
Speaker 1: He's the sixty sixth best player on my top one hundred.
Speaker 1: You know. With that being said, though, they might have
Speaker 1: this guy in the in the forties, right, you know,
Speaker 1: on their board, and you know, and they don't feel
Speaker 1: like that, you know they don't. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: sit here and either they're gonna sweat this thing like
Speaker 1: we did Tuesday night, or we're gonna see them jump
Speaker 1: in there to one of those teams maybe at Green
Speaker 1: Bay and four picks. Don't be surprised if the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: if they feel like they might lose their guy chump
Speaker 1: in their raiders now to create Charles Woodson and Super
Speaker 1: Bowl forty five champion Charles Woodson. All right, now, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on first order of business and keep
Speaker 1: it with tradition. You know, this is the way Willie
Speaker 1: Brown would want it. He's gonna wish some happy Mother's Day,
Speaker 1: you guys. Mother's Day is coming up. Don't forget about
Speaker 1: your mom's old Mother's Day, Call her, take her out
Speaker 1: to dinner, buy or something. Don't forget about moms. So
Speaker 1: Happy Mother's Day to holder mothers out there, those that
Speaker 1: are here, those that we have lost. Willy Brown, we
Speaker 1: love you, baby. Now let's get down the town business
Speaker 1: right quick full Oscot Charles Watson. With the fortieth pick
Speaker 1: in the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: select Trayvon Mullen dB. I think they're trying to get
Speaker 1: that defense built up a little bit. Yon mull in
Speaker 1: the corner from Clemson player at Williams. Yeah. Interesting. The
Speaker 1: Raiders like who they like and they don't give it. Damn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you think, especially those Clemson defensers, defensive players, Well,
Speaker 1: what about let's let's revisit that, because what about Greedy
Speaker 1: Williams could have him still on the board. We haven't
Speaker 1: heard anything about injuries. It just that he's not for everybody,
Speaker 1: the kind of just press tackling man. Yeah, we know
Speaker 1: he's not tackling. Yeah, physicality and stuff, right, It just
Speaker 1: comes down to the competitive nature. He leaves production on
Speaker 1: the field and he shut things down in November last year.
Speaker 1: And on one hand, you can understand it to college players,
Speaker 1: you know, preparing for the next level. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, are you have to worry about that when
Speaker 1: he's in a contract here? You have to worry about
Speaker 1: that when your team's out of contention. You want a
Speaker 1: guy who loves football wants to compete, Not everybody thinks
Speaker 1: that that's what Greedy Williams is going to give you.
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos is the next team on the clock in
Speaker 1: kat Is it Drew Lock time? I mean, I think
Speaker 1: if there was any time to do it, it would
Speaker 1: be here. But you know, who knows. They might not
Speaker 1: like him, and that would tell you why they wouldn't
Speaker 1: have taken him yesterday or you know so so so
Speaker 1: they're trading up to get him, And maybe you feel like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just seems like everything that we've
Speaker 1: heard of the Drew Lock John La connections, maybe that
Speaker 1: is all nothing. You know, maybe that was all just
Speaker 1: a lot of smoke. But I tell you what, if
Speaker 1: I am a Denver Broncos fan, I would be okay
Speaker 1: with that, because man, I'm not comfortable with what I've
Speaker 1: done at quarterback, not now over the last few years.
Speaker 1: To me, it makes a lot of sense. This would
Speaker 1: be a good area for him, or if it's Will
Speaker 1: Greer or Ryan Finley or whoever you like, assuming it's
Speaker 1: not a quarterback. If it's not a quarterback, should be
Speaker 1: some needs there if you got him. Yeah, yeah, wide receiver,
Speaker 1: offensive guard, outside linebacker. I think Joe Flacco like filling
Speaker 1: the deep ball to DK Metcalf, like he'd enjoy that.
Speaker 1: I got him. Know a fan of the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, he's refused to throw the ball more than
Speaker 1: three yards down the field. Yeah, anymore, you are determined
Speaker 1: to hate this man Flacco. Yeah, he's not good. I know.
Speaker 1: I'm not arguing with He hasn't been good in a while.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think Drew Locke is a
Speaker 1: clear upgrade. Maybe not right away. No, No, Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: did a great job of getting hot at the perfect
Speaker 1: time to get one hundred billion dollars. Or they could
Speaker 1: trade the pick and move down and keep doing that bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see that happening. They got they got fat
Speaker 1: for Flacco last night, So do they? I mean they?
Speaker 1: I mean not that they couldn't double dip and get
Speaker 1: a receiver too. I want, but you know, maybe take
Speaker 1: care of one of those lines ahead. Are you thinking
Speaker 1: though that maybe they would go Brown over Medcalf here?
Speaker 1: I think he'll be the more productive receiver. I think
Speaker 1: he's the same. He would be a safer bed. If
Speaker 1: I were picking a receipt and you say that he
Speaker 1: think he would be the best pro player, the Brown
Speaker 1: would be Yeah, it'd be easy. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: Metcalf gives you a higher upside because she's just a
Speaker 1: freaky athlete. He rar do you see a guy with
Speaker 1: those types of traits? But AJ Brown's a better receiver
Speaker 1: right now. And if DK Metcalf never catches up to him,
Speaker 1: I don't think that shouldn't surprise anybody, you know. It's
Speaker 1: it's interesting you start looking at those guys and A J.
Speaker 1: Brown just feels like he does a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: And then he may not look like the most like,
Speaker 1: you know, shifty guy at all times, and he looks
Speaker 1: him go Okay, there he is making a catch and
Speaker 1: then running after the catch and getting all these yards
Speaker 1: and doing dirty work. And it's not the same type
Speaker 1: of players, sorts of size, but just the style of
Speaker 1: play reminds me so much of Jarvis Landry just gonna
Speaker 1: will catch everything, and I'll go do the dirty work
Speaker 1: over the middle, and I'll find a way to catch
Speaker 1: him staring at me. Break tack. You guys are dany
Speaker 1: and I got an argument went time of the draft show,
Speaker 1: and he made me look like a complete jackass, and
Speaker 1: that's what and and he was right though, you know,
Speaker 1: And I started, I'm thinking, oh, I'm just gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ride this one out. And I started asking people.
Speaker 1: I started asking scouts around the league. Jeff was also
Speaker 1: involved with this, and everybody's like, you're a fool. You
Speaker 1: think he's that, You think he's that. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: I had my moments, my senior moments where I'm not
Speaker 1: very good at the scouting stuff. That was fun. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I think that what the Lions share.
Speaker 1: The people are saying that the Jeff Cavanaughs, the Dane Burglars,
Speaker 1: the many scouts around the league that I know that
Speaker 1: you know, this guy's got a shot. Brown just got
Speaker 1: a shot. J Brown's got a shot to be a
Speaker 1: really really really good pro. Denver at the podium, Willson,
Speaker 1: what's up Nashville, What's up Nashville? O? Good man. It's
Speaker 1: so I'm real by man, how about? But they really
Speaker 1: bought down the second round. By the way, the Broncos
Speaker 1: have just traded into the next spot too with the
Speaker 1: forty first. With the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos select Dalton Risner. Okay said offensive guard Dave
Speaker 1: is one of the needs. Kansas State man, A lot
Speaker 1: of people are projecting to be a guard. I would
Speaker 1: imagine that's what he's gonna be asked to do there
Speaker 1: in Denver, Dane. If your cornerback's not good, get him
Speaker 1: some you know, protect him right. And he played right
Speaker 1: tackle Kansas State and he didn't get beat very often.
Speaker 1: But you just look at a skill set and he's
Speaker 1: ideally suited inside as a guard. But I think he
Speaker 1: does give you that versatility where if you need him
Speaker 1: to kick out and tackle on a pinch, he can
Speaker 1: do that. You need him to go inside the center,
Speaker 1: he can do that. The Broncos had a need at
Speaker 1: right guard. They needed someone to step in and compete,
Speaker 1: and I think Dalton Riiser does that from day one.
Speaker 1: So first two picks, they go offense with a tight
Speaker 1: end and know a fan in the first in a second,
Speaker 1: and here they go with a versatile offensive lineman and
Speaker 1: Dalton Reisener and they just trade it up to the
Speaker 1: next pick. Gonna say, do have something wrong here because
Speaker 1: I'm showing the Denver Broncos having just made a pick
Speaker 1: and being on the clock. Yes, they traded to pick
Speaker 1: forty two, just where we see Drew Locke. I guess
Speaker 1: they came up from fifty two. I'm guessing Cincinnati actually
Speaker 1: made a trade in a draft. Yeah, crazy right. The
Speaker 1: one thing about Riiser it's interesting, like you could watch
Speaker 1: him like the game it really stood out to me
Speaker 1: was the Mississippi State game where he went up against
Speaker 1: Montes Sweat because it was an indictment of both players,
Speaker 1: and also it showed you how good both players could
Speaker 1: be because there were times when Sweats length and speed
Speaker 1: would give Riisener issues and there were times when you'd
Speaker 1: see Riiseners strength give montes Sweat issues. And I thought
Speaker 1: that was a really good battle and kind of help
Speaker 1: you get a good evaluation on both players. So that's
Speaker 1: pretty good spot for him right there. And they didn't
Speaker 1: need help on their interior trade. Yes, Cincinnati sends to
Speaker 1: forty two to Denver Denver in turn sends fifty two,
Speaker 1: which they got from Pittsburgh, and then they send one,
Speaker 1: twenty five and one eighty two. So fifty two it
Speaker 1: is not expensive to go up in this draft. Fifty two,
Speaker 1: one twenty five and one eighty two. Let's apply that
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys for a second. So you just saw
Speaker 1: a team go So one eighty two is a sixth,
Speaker 1: is it not? It is, Dave? And twenty five is
Speaker 1: a fourth. Five is the middle end of the fourth round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you you send basically a late fourth, mid fourth,
Speaker 1: and a sixth to go ten spots in the second. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if you're thinking about the Cowboys, we're still we're
Speaker 1: still sixteen picks away. So you could maybe if you're
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, go fourth round comp pick at one thirty
Speaker 1: six and you're five maybe maybe so and actually get
Speaker 1: up in this draft, say one twenty eight, and you
Speaker 1: and your fifth would definitely do it. At least according
Speaker 1: to what's happening right in front of us right now,
Speaker 1: they don't have a six, you're right, they do have
Speaker 1: a fifth. They have a five, So you have to
Speaker 1: play with a four and a five or a four
Speaker 1: and a seven something to keep in mind when you
Speaker 1: you know, looking at Miami, looking at pick fifty, you
Speaker 1: get down into that range. All right, let's find out
Speaker 1: what the Broncos are gonna do with what they traded
Speaker 1: up for there. We'll find that out as soon as
Speaker 1: we get back right here. It's the NFL Draft on
Speaker 1: one oh five three the Fan by Dallas Cowboys dot Com,
Speaker 1: and we're back here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: side of things. The Denver Broncos have are gonna have
Speaker 1: back to back picks. They were at as we talked about,
Speaker 1: they were at their own pick at two forty one.
Speaker 1: They've now traded with the Sins Bengals, which is shocking
Speaker 1: to me. I don't think I've ever in the history
Speaker 1: of my life ever traded with the Cincinnati Bengals. But
Speaker 1: I love the way they draft players. But this is
Speaker 1: now the Broncos pick at two forty two. We'll keep
Speaker 1: the needs chart there. Dave at two forty two, it
Speaker 1: looks like they've gone guard and tight end. Kat was
Speaker 1: kind of talking about a quarterback. We've got some wide receivers.
Speaker 1: They're still sitting on this board. Anything in directioning hawk right,
Speaker 1: and we've been talking about Locke. Maybe they didn't expect
Speaker 1: him to be there that long and they go up
Speaker 1: for him. It's I mean, okay, they need a linebacker
Speaker 1: with we We've been talking about this receiver class stretching
Speaker 1: all night, haven't we. So you're gonna go up ten spots.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're convinced you're gonna get your guy,
Speaker 1: I guess you could. But teams great for quarterbacks, did
Speaker 1: they not? Yeah? They sure do. Our wide receiver whisperer
Speaker 1: happens to be Jeff Kavanaugh and he was on it
Speaker 1: about him and Dave on about Deebo Samuel. Is it Madcalf?
Speaker 1: Is that? I mean, we what what's happening there? Is
Speaker 1: it still him? Or you had another idea of Brown?
Speaker 1: How do you see that? Rulin? I know our board
Speaker 1: has Matcalf and then Brown and that kind of that
Speaker 1: awarder though, But you're thinking the Broncos are going to
Speaker 1: go different. Yeah, And I think if you want a
Speaker 1: wide receiver, it's it's it's interesting because they went to
Speaker 1: the same school, but it's totally up to do you
Speaker 1: want to play it safe or do you want to
Speaker 1: shoot for the stars? And maybe a J. Brown is
Speaker 1: going to be a eighty catch twelve hundred yard guy.
Speaker 1: But like DK Metcalf, you're gonna see shades of Calvin
Speaker 1: Johnson when you watch him play in college, and a J.
Speaker 1: Brown you're gonna feel like, well, he's gonna be a
Speaker 1: solid player. And he's gonna be that for a long time,
Speaker 1: I think. And so you know, we got Metcalf higher
Speaker 1: on the board. If you really gave me a football
Speaker 1: team and said, hey, you can pick which receiver do
Speaker 1: you want, I might be a coward and say I
Speaker 1: want a J. Brown. I feel better about it. Should
Speaker 1: that have been. I mean, when we were doing all
Speaker 1: that kat that really wasn't much of a discussion. We
Speaker 1: talked got a lot about how good Brown was, but
Speaker 1: we really you guys, and again, Jeff, I trust your evaluation.
Speaker 1: These wide receivers we Metcalf could be so amazing. He
Speaker 1: could be so amazing. You're not supposed to be that
Speaker 1: big and get off the line at the speed that
Speaker 1: he does. It looks like to pick is in for
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. So we'll go to the podium and
Speaker 1: once again get Al Wilson, the former Tennessee vall himself
Speaker 1: to get this pick and with the forty second pick
Speaker 1: in the two thousand and nineteen NFL Draft, the Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos select Drew Locke. There he goes interesting, Missouri's quarterback
Speaker 1: is off the board to the Denver Broncos. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I was starting to wonder about quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in general, because when the Cardinals took Kyler, and then
Speaker 1: the Giants got their guy at six, and Washington got
Speaker 1: their guy at fifteen, Miami cems like the last suitor
Speaker 1: for Josh Rosen, Like, that's the only team in the
Speaker 1: league that doesn't have their guy. If they take Josh Rosen,
Speaker 1: everyone in the league has their guy. Yeah, next year,
Speaker 1: people will change their minds on some of their players.
Speaker 1: And you have some fifth year contracts that right now,
Speaker 1: but everybody has their guy now. You also, no, yeah, sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's not many teams in Miami and you don't even
Speaker 1: know if they're willing to want to get a guy, right,
Speaker 1: you know? With true Luck, My question on him is
Speaker 1: how much did it matter that things weren't always clean
Speaker 1: for him? Like things were always clean for Haskins and Murray, right,
Speaker 1: it wasn't always clean for Drew Luck. There a lot
Speaker 1: of times he's taking hits and she's getting his butt
Speaker 1: hit back there. Sure, but you look at the arm strength,
Speaker 1: the anticipation. There are questions the touch, you know, questions,
Speaker 1: but in terms of just going out and making throws, hey,
Speaker 1: it's all there. Can I get you into a place
Speaker 1: where I can protect you, give you time and develop you,
Speaker 1: then you like what you have there. If he can
Speaker 1: sit for a year two in Denver, you know you
Speaker 1: like what you have if we can continue to develop that,
Speaker 1: because it's all there from a trade standpoint. All right,
Speaker 1: we're about to come back on radio, So stand by
Speaker 1: Dallas goos dot com. Welcome back to the second round
Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft. We're on pick number forty two.
Speaker 1: We'll pick number forty two. Actually just happened. It was
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos who had back to back picks as
Speaker 1: they traded up Dalton Risner from Kansas State, the offensive
Speaker 1: lineman goes to the Broncos, and then Drew Lock, quarterback Missouri,
Speaker 1: who a lot of people thought would go in the
Speaker 1: first round, finds his home here with the tenth pick
Speaker 1: of the second round. Dane, I'll ask you about Drew
Speaker 1: Lock in a second because now the Lions are at
Speaker 1: the podium at forty three. Billy takes over the Heisman
Speaker 1: ceremony every years. Thank you, Nashville, you got put on
Speaker 1: a great show. For sure. It's Billy Sims. Good Lions.
Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions twenty nineteen draft pick Jolani Tobuy Brougler Special,
Speaker 1: Jilani Tovai, the linebacker from Hawaii, is going to be
Speaker 1: a Detroit Lion. Tell us about to Bay will circle
Speaker 1: back to Drew Locke. I'll just say I told you July.
Speaker 1: Out of sight, out of mind. This guy is an
Speaker 1: inside out player, three down potential, can do everything you
Speaker 1: want on the football field. But because he played in Hawaii,
Speaker 1: had a shoulder injury, there's a lot of concerns. You know,
Speaker 1: he just wasn't in He wasn't the Senior Bowls. Yeah, right, exactly.
Speaker 1: So just out of sight, out of mind. No one's
Speaker 1: talking about him. And I kept pounding the table saying, listen,
Speaker 1: this guy is good. He's gonna go high. I didn't
Speaker 1: think he'd go top fifty. I thought he'd go maybe
Speaker 1: top sixty, top seventy. But I ain't great for the
Speaker 1: Lions that got themselves a Hey if you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a linebacker in this draft, you better go right, you
Speaker 1: better go now because it thins out pretty quickly. Who's
Speaker 1: even mac Wilson, Jermaine Pratt? And then you're going, Okay, Cashman,
Speaker 1: maybe Cony. But but I think that's an interesting pick.
Speaker 1: I account. I was thinking there's a really good tight
Speaker 1: end on the board with IRV Smith and I Kount.
Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe Detroit would go Hawkinson at eight,
Speaker 1: you know, early in the first round. And I was like, man,
Speaker 1: IRF Smith, they want a good tight end. And now
Speaker 1: we go to the Packers on the board. They went
Speaker 1: double defense yesterday. Yeah, with questionable picks in my eyes,
Speaker 1: Rare Shawn Garry and Darniell Savage. One of the old
Speaker 1: Miss wide receivers makes a lot of centsra They gotta
Speaker 1: help the quarterback out at some point. Right the old
Speaker 1: Miss receivers are gonna go undrafted. Maybe no one's gonna
Speaker 1: pick him. We're just gonna sit here forever. Let's circle
Speaker 1: back to Drew Lock. Who wants to hit me with
Speaker 1: a quick Drew Lock scouting report, Dane Brian, what you
Speaker 1: thought about that? In him being a Denver Bronco, I
Speaker 1: think he's a Derek Carr clone um in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, Golden Arm. You like to make up, You
Speaker 1: like the size, like the movements. Just can he be
Speaker 1: discipline and more consistent with his mechanics which directly affect
Speaker 1: his accuracy and his ball playsment down the field, and
Speaker 1: just keep me so reckless with the football. But I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of things that you like that
Speaker 1: could equal being a starter in this league. It's just
Speaker 1: and I do think he provides immediate competition for Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco all of a sudden. I mean, Drew Locke is
Speaker 1: a four year starter in the SEC. This isn't a
Speaker 1: guy that he's a sit and wait and develop. Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco has competition from day one in Denver Flacco Katie
Speaker 1: to get the Packers now in the clock. This is
Speaker 1: a team you follow really really closely. Yeah. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: family big Packer fans, and I've got some people that
Speaker 1: I know from up there as well. And I was
Speaker 1: getting yesterday some one Thornhill buzz on them as well.
Speaker 1: Now they ended up getting Savage to be their safety
Speaker 1: some maybe Thornhill's out of the mix. There a lot
Speaker 1: of needs there. They went and had a big free
Speaker 1: agency spending spree with pass rushers. We'll see they take care.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they go offense after two
Speaker 1: defensive picks yesterday. Though. Well the Packers, as we talk
Speaker 1: about though, they well they're making it right now here
Speaker 1: we go. Let's go to play it moving tonight, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so much fun. It's the easiest team cheer.
Speaker 1: We need to do it. Go pack, Go go pack,
Speaker 1: Go pack, Go pack, go go pack, go fantastic. Put
Speaker 1: the four pick in the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers select Elton Jenkins, guard, Mississippi State. Okay,
Speaker 1: so interior line there, now you love. That's a good player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he played center last year for him today he did
Speaker 1: and they introduced him as a guard. And it's funny.
Speaker 1: It's funny because kat they're really happy with the center there.
Speaker 1: I mean, the right guard is the issue, the rights issue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sing in there for a long time, McCrae. They need
Speaker 1: interior offensive line up. They'll they'll pump if they like Lindsley.
Speaker 1: They like Linsley the center, right, Yeah, they're gonna play
Speaker 1: Jenkins at guard, I would imagine absolutely. Yeah. So we're
Speaker 1: on the pick number forty five, which is the La
Speaker 1: Rams that are on the clock right now. The Cowboys,
Speaker 1: of course are picking at fifty eight. This is a
Speaker 1: team a yeah, this is another minefield team. Dave Hellman
Speaker 1: was on this early. This is a team that could
Speaker 1: have a defensive tackle or a safety. You know, this
Speaker 1: is it's actually this is actually about to be a run. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Where the Rams are looking at d tackles and safeties,
Speaker 1: The Colts are looking at safeties. The Panther, well, Seattle's
Speaker 1: looking at safeties. They now have the Panthers pick. That's
Speaker 1: three teams right there that might be snatching up players.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys like and see, this is the point in
Speaker 1: time of the draft where like a Jerry Jones would ask, okay,
Speaker 1: Brian or you know who, pro we got it. Now.
Speaker 1: We got a shot of the war room, Jeff, let
Speaker 1: me get a little talk about this. That's the war
Speaker 1: room at the Ford Center. The war room. They don't
Speaker 1: look bored. I'll say that. Everybody looks like they're a
Speaker 1: little engaged in something different, are working on something together.
Speaker 1: They're not on a phone well, but they're definitely tracking
Speaker 1: things that are going on. Maybe crunching numbers and doing
Speaker 1: math and thinking about you see Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: He's explaining something about what it's like lost. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: it would cost to maybe get to a spot. Maybe
Speaker 1: Stephen has a plan. He's laid some chum in the water.
Speaker 1: David Hillman before we even did this, laid you the
Speaker 1: minefield that they have. They're they're they're hunting three techniques,
Speaker 1: could be looking at the safety there, you know, they
Speaker 1: just there. There's a lot of guys right now in
Speaker 1: that war room that are just hoping and praying that
Speaker 1: their guy gets to them without having to get up
Speaker 1: give up a pick. But there is a plan in place.
Speaker 1: It looks like if that happens. By the way, the
Speaker 1: Rams have moved the forty fifth pick, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: the new England Patriots on the clock now, not the
Speaker 1: Rams and number Okay, Now that is still a minefield yield.
Speaker 1: That is another team that has been linked to Tristan Hill.
Speaker 1: If that's their guy, Patriots at forty five, Rams will
Speaker 1: pick at fifty six and one oh one. Okay, so
Speaker 1: it cost you an early fourth again not costing you
Speaker 1: a lot of money to get up with ten picks.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are seeing always ten picks and that's all
Speaker 1: they gave. I mean, yeah, they bumped up eleven picks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sixty five? Yeah, So what what is that tells? Like
Speaker 1: the value of this draft is bizarre? Okay, so they
Speaker 1: gave a comp three? Right? Did they give a comp three?
Speaker 1: It's the second to last pick in the third round. Okay,
Speaker 1: So New England's coming up from fifty six? Correct, Yes,
Speaker 1: that is true. One thing when they went threw out
Speaker 1: and then we're talking about all these guys that the
Speaker 1: Patriots could be in on. We know how they liked
Speaker 1: to cover. The name I threwout last week was Joe
Speaker 1: One Williams, the cornerback from Vanderbilt's a guy I wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind the Cowboys taking. I had the Patriots taking him
Speaker 1: at fifty six. And kind of a mock exercise that
Speaker 1: I did. I saw in Dane's mock today that he
Speaker 1: had one Thornhill going at fifty six. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of interesting. Could this be first safety? Oh, that's just
Speaker 1: gonna have some rams, New England. You didn't have them
Speaker 1: day as any type of minefield position for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I know, what if we're talking about the Cowboys guy
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, which is who we think they're target visited, right,
Speaker 1: He's a guy the Patriots have shown interest in. Whether
Speaker 1: it's at this pick, I can't tell you. Well, it's
Speaker 1: getting fun because that war room is buzzing. Chris Hall
Speaker 1: is just on the phone. Who's to his left, He
Speaker 1: was on the phone. Will McClay is talking to Stephen Jone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's Todd Williams out of Pacific. Of those guys are
Speaker 1: down to the left of Chris Hall. And as they
Speaker 1: work your way up again, you got Will McClay sitting
Speaker 1: right there in the middle of all the action. Again,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that are just holding their
Speaker 1: breath that you know. It looks like to me they're
Speaker 1: trying to make a determination if whether they need to
Speaker 1: go up like everybody else here. And Stephen Jones is
Speaker 1: like he is studying something, likely's trade chart to see
Speaker 1: if he needs to call somebody to make this happen.
Speaker 1: Seattle at forty seven will do business with you. That's
Speaker 1: a team at forty seven. They're trying to get as
Speaker 1: many picks as they can. They'll work with you, but
Speaker 1: they are also a team in on long cornerbacks safety.
Speaker 1: A team look for something like that as well. So
Speaker 1: maybe Miami at forty eight might be a team that
Speaker 1: you know you can that's the Rosen pick. Yeah, allegedly,
Speaker 1: So we'll find out. The Patriots now about to make
Speaker 1: their selection three times Super Bowl champion Dumte High Tower,
Speaker 1: good player, very very to the New England Patriots, And
Speaker 1: with the forty fifth pick in the two thousand nineteen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Champs select Juy Williams Billie. That was
Speaker 1: my mock guy. That was my mock guy, and I
Speaker 1: actually I had him as my forty seventh best player
Speaker 1: my board. He goes at forty five, so I actually
Speaker 1: got one right Land mine strikes as one of the
Speaker 1: corners that the Cowboys are interested in, or at least
Speaker 1: linked to and visited with off the board. I bet
Speaker 1: there's relief in that war room right now, like he
Speaker 1: might have been a guy they were interested in. But
Speaker 1: I don't think he's their first option. No, But I
Speaker 1: know for a fact that there's several Christopher Shard went
Speaker 1: out to Nashville to work this guy out, and and
Speaker 1: you know, he worked out a lot of guys. But
Speaker 1: I kind of got the vibe throughout that that he
Speaker 1: was one of those guys that they were they were
Speaker 1: looking at very strongly if if in things did go
Speaker 1: the way they thought it was going to go. But
Speaker 1: good for him that he gets to come to the
Speaker 1: podium being in that green room too. Stuff. That's nice
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, if you guys are interested in how
Speaker 1: many trades can happen tonight, number forty six will not
Speaker 1: be the Indianapolis Colts who got that pick from the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. It will now be the Cleveland and the
Speaker 1: particulars of that, the Cleveland Browns they're gonna trade pick uh.
Speaker 1: They go forty nine. They now trade that pick uh,
Speaker 1: And they also trade a fifth round pick which is
Speaker 1: one forty four from Jacksonville that they got. So Carlos Hiddeal, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so forty nine, one forty four, uh now belong to
Speaker 1: the So in early five moves you up just three
Speaker 1: spots from forty nine to forty six. So Cleveland targeting
Speaker 1: somebody here with the forties. Wonder if this could be
Speaker 1: one Thornhill getting in front of Seattle. Maybe one thorn Hills,
Speaker 1: a guy that I know the Browns liked a little bit.
Speaker 1: Another Minefield team another team that visited with Tristan Hill.
Speaker 1: They brought the You know Dan said at the top
Speaker 1: of the show, Drew brill Peppers is a giant. Now
Speaker 1: it's have we identified Thornhill as the guy they liked
Speaker 1: the most at safety? Do you think they liked Adderlee Moore?
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Oh, I've got that written
Speaker 1: on a sheet of paper something. Demarus Randall Thornhill is
Speaker 1: a guy that they brought in. A know Demarius Randall
Speaker 1: is it plays the free safety spot for the Browns.
Speaker 1: He's in the final year of his deal. They could
Speaker 1: use more help with strong safety. So any type of safety, sure,
Speaker 1: it's possible here. Well, I was even asking about the
Speaker 1: Cowboys though, who they preferred safety out of Adderlie Thornhill.
Speaker 1: I wonder that one is what I wonder about. Did
Speaker 1: they not show interest or visit with him because they
Speaker 1: didn't think he would make it? That is fascinating. Did
Speaker 1: they not have him on the visit list for a
Speaker 1: different reason? Is there something about him that they weren't interested?
Speaker 1: Because they brought in pretty much all the safeties in
Speaker 1: this range, pretty much all of them except adder which,
Speaker 1: so again combine right the league is showing that their
Speaker 1: thought process is not always line up with ours, because
Speaker 1: sure Adderley was widely regarded as if not a first
Speaker 1: round pick, then top thirty five, which if I'm the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: why am I bothering with that guy? But maybe they
Speaker 1: change their tune if he's still sitting here in a
Speaker 1: couple more picks, So we're waiting to see what the
Speaker 1: Cleveland pick is going to be there, and then we
Speaker 1: will have the Seattle Seahawks, then the Miami Dolphins. The
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns pick is in, so we are just waiting
Speaker 1: to see which player is going to show up on
Speaker 1: stage and who he's going to announce that Cleveland is selecting,
Speaker 1: and we will continue to track as Cowboy targets are
Speaker 1: now getting hit with sniper rounds. Well, that is not
Speaker 1: how to actually go. They're coming off of our board.
Speaker 1: It's a little dramatic. They're coming off of our board
Speaker 1: as we walk through the proverbial minefield that is the
Speaker 1: picks in the second round. So we're just waiting to
Speaker 1: see who this Cleveland pick is going to be, and
Speaker 1: then we will keep it rolling as everyone's trading. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you should go to break on the fan
Speaker 1: right now and coming up next, we should discuss if
Speaker 1: brought us wants to move up into into this range
Speaker 1: and make a move here. It sounds like a great tease.
Speaker 1: We'll do that right here on the Fight for you.
Speaker 1: But we're staying here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we are staying here. John Dorsey not wearing his traditional
Speaker 1: Cleveland brown sweater or sweatshirt. Um. This is a team
Speaker 1: that we talked about earlier, the Minefield team that that
Speaker 1: actually did bring in I remember you tell me this
Speaker 1: at forty nine day when we were talking about it.
Speaker 1: Cleveland did bring in Tristan Hill. So we'll see if
Speaker 1: in fact that they're moving up to kind of protect
Speaker 1: themselves here to see if that they can to get
Speaker 1: this uh, get this player. I was looking at Dave.
Speaker 1: You have Cleveland's needs right there in front of you. Sure, Handy.
Speaker 1: Uh we're talking defensive tackle was one of them right
Speaker 1: the line slash d tackle? Linebacker? Oh line safety? Okay Dorsey,
Speaker 1: would he take polite too early? For polite? That's where
Speaker 1: I haven't going on the third Okay, So so yeah,
Speaker 1: just something on my mind here. You haven't you had
Speaker 1: polite in the third to the Browns and the third
Speaker 1: Dorsey took a troubled Florida prospect last year in the
Speaker 1: fourth maybe doing the third year. Well, it looks like
Speaker 1: the Brown selection is in the and then the great
Speaker 1: Jim Brown walking to the podium, and he will get
Speaker 1: there and make this foot let's go to the chart
Speaker 1: was still a bad man. Thank you very much. We're
Speaker 1: very gracious. I love it from my heart. Thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: an have the Coats have traded the forty six pilip
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Brown with the fourtiest six fix and
Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen NFL draft, the Cleveland bounce elect Greedy
Speaker 1: william Let's go John Tors will take care of the mills,
Speaker 1: you guys, Lsu North up in Berea, Ohio. How about
Speaker 1: that got Odell Beckham, You got Jarvis Landry, throw in
Speaker 1: Andre's Greedy Williams. Why the hell not for a team
Speaker 1: that didn't have a first round pick. Nice job by
Speaker 1: the Browns. Here to land Greedy william which and cornerback
Speaker 1: is not listed as a big need. But a guy
Speaker 1: that was widely thought of as a first round pick
Speaker 1: falling to forty six maybe changes your your life, Like
Speaker 1: cornered you're our Brown's whisper. They drafted Denzel Ward uh
Speaker 1: within the top five pick last year, and they don't
Speaker 1: have anybody opposite him that you really can rely on.
Speaker 1: So I think that Denzel Ward, greedy Greedy Williams here
Speaker 1: as a great one two punch for the for the
Speaker 1: Brown the corner well, and also trading to get ahead
Speaker 1: of Seattle, because Seattle's a team we've talked about who
Speaker 1: might be interested in corners. We've seen them, you know,
Speaker 1: attached to a lot of names. So trading to get
Speaker 1: in front of them, that's pretty interesting. Now you get
Speaker 1: Seattle on o'clock because we mentioned a minute ago, a
Speaker 1: team who probably willing to do a little business in
Speaker 1: terms of making trades and moving back. Although it appears
Speaker 1: their pick is in, so they'll be selecting someone. I
Speaker 1: don't know how often in the NFL. Now you have
Speaker 1: a corner who you just say, hey, go cover that guy.
Speaker 1: But with Greedy Williams, doesn't that seem like a really
Speaker 1: good idea? Kay, he's yours. Go do that however you'd
Speaker 1: like to do. You worry about him getting bullied, yea
Speaker 1: one hundred eighty five pounds. He's a small guy. He's
Speaker 1: raal thin. He's six one eighty five pounds, and you
Speaker 1: do have to worry about that. He doesn't have the
Speaker 1: play strength you want. I mean, he was one of
Speaker 1: a handful of guys that had singled digit bench bench
Speaker 1: press reps to twenty five. You know it shows on
Speaker 1: and off the field. But you know he has let
Speaker 1: us in the hold up. He has the length to
Speaker 1: hold up to Seattle, not wasting any time. It's nice
Speaker 1: that John Snyder wants to join us in this draft.
Speaker 1: So we got guys. Got a green room guy here, huh.
Speaker 1: Now they took LJ. Collier last night. Again, we thought
Speaker 1: we would see him go on last night. I don't
Speaker 1: know my players say, am I a bad person? If
Speaker 1: this mine? That's what I thought they and they need
Speaker 1: offensive line help in the middle. I was thinking coming
Speaker 1: down the hall before they've announced the selection. Oh, they're
Speaker 1: replay on the TV last trick. Wow, I feel like
Speaker 1: an idiot. I was wondering where they were. They had
Speaker 1: some good b roll of the Cody Ford pick from
Speaker 1: ten picks ago. So the Seattle pick is up at
Speaker 1: forty seven. They tried to trick us there a little bit.
Speaker 1: We didn't try anything. We all is that happening now?
Speaker 1: It was he in the john or something. Maybe well
Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't at the green room. You know that
Speaker 1: happened last year or maybe two years ago. A guy
Speaker 1: was like, Cody was in the restroom. He'd like to
Speaker 1: come to the stage and do the hug thing. So
Speaker 1: we're come out. Two years ago a guy was like,
Speaker 1: screw this, and then they picked him and he came
Speaker 1: across town to be part of it. All right, we're
Speaker 1: getting ready to come back on radio. So Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, second round of the NFL Draft. We are
Speaker 1: here with you. It is the forty seventh pick of
Speaker 1: the draft the Seattle Seahawks. The pick is in. We're
Speaker 1: waiting to see who it is. As the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: holding strong at fifty eight, but that war room has
Speaker 1: seen action. We're waiting to see who it's going to
Speaker 1: be for Seattle Cowboys. Just over ten picks away. Jeff
Speaker 1: cabin On, Dane Brugler, Brian brought Us, Kevin Turner, Dave Helmont.
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Speaker 1: you're right there, Jeff. They are in the war room
Speaker 1: at the Ford Center, and it looks like ut stake.
Speaker 1: They're committed to just stay in and seeing what happens.
Speaker 1: A lot. So I don't think they're committed to staying
Speaker 1: and seeing what happens, because I'm seeing a lot of
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones on the phone. Jerry was on the phone
Speaker 1: a little while ago. I've seen Will McClay on the phone.
Speaker 1: It's showing each other things. It's calmed down a little bit.
Speaker 1: In the last five minute. Stephen Jones is on the phone.
Speaker 1: He's look at this trade charts, for sure. So I
Speaker 1: mean someone's trying to see would you agree with me
Speaker 1: that five ten minutes ago it was like frenetic almost
Speaker 1: there were people moving around, Jason Garretts in a tizzy.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's at least calmed down. I'm I
Speaker 1: am curious that the fact that Stephen Jones is making
Speaker 1: phone calls is this is not a room that is
Speaker 1: expecting to wait another ten picks. I don't think it
Speaker 1: doesn't look like I guess Stephen and Jerry the Seahawks
Speaker 1: pick is coming in. I want to be real quick though.
Speaker 1: The Josh Rosentrade is still hanging in the balance. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: With the forty seventh pick in the two thousand nineteen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select Marquise Blair bbuta, So
Speaker 1: that'll be the Seattle Seahawks taking a safety. But it's
Speaker 1: Marquise Blair out of Utah. Dane scouting report on Marquise Blair.
Speaker 1: Does it feel a little early? It does, especially ahead
Speaker 1: of some of these other safeties. He was like Penny
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, he did a little bit of everything
Speaker 1: for the ut defense. He moved up to do this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll play single high, he'll play you know, the man
Speaker 1: him up against tight end. They'll play him as kind
Speaker 1: of like an overhang lineback, or do a little bit
Speaker 1: of everything with him. Hey, he's not afraid to come
Speaker 1: hit you. But in terms of coverage, it's a little
Speaker 1: choppy and kind of struggle with spacing. So don't love
Speaker 1: the pick here, especially again with one Thornhill's still there,
Speaker 1: Taylor Raps still here. A lot of these safeties. Marky's
Speaker 1: Blair good for him. Second round pick, Saints have traded
Speaker 1: up to the Dolphins pick at forty eight. The Saints
Speaker 1: now at forty eight and one sixteen, the Dolphins back
Speaker 1: to sixty two now, So if the Josh Rosen conversations
Speaker 1: want to start Arizona, Hell, how about pick sixty two.
Speaker 1: That's kind of where they're at now. I love the
Speaker 1: Dolphins commitment to just They're like, hey, we're gonna suck,
Speaker 1: We're gonna get some picks for it. So they're going Browns.
Speaker 1: I dig it. Well, this is the first time I
Speaker 1: can remember where they can stare the Cardinals down to
Speaker 1: be like, where else are you gonna move him? No
Speaker 1: one needs a quarterback? Good point, we're the only ones
Speaker 1: you got, all right? The New Orleans Saints. That pick
Speaker 1: is in and we're approaching the podium here for the
Speaker 1: eights at forty eight, pick a receiver Saints from Bloomsburg
Speaker 1: University two thousand and six fourth round pick, six times
Speaker 1: Pro bowler and the Super Bowl forty four champion Jr. Right,
Speaker 1: great to be here. There's been a trade. The Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins has trade with the forty eighth pick. So the
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, who that nation? Welcome? Who we got darned.
Speaker 1: With the forty eighth pick in the two thousand nineteen draft,
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints select Eric McCoy center, Texas A
Speaker 1: and l there we go. That's a guy that's towards
Speaker 1: the top of our board. That is that is a
Speaker 1: pretty darn good center. You don't believe me, Turn on
Speaker 1: the Alabama tape and watch McCoy battle against Quinnon Williams
Speaker 1: and his crew. That's a pretty good player right there,
Speaker 1: Texas A and m center going to the Saints at
Speaker 1: forty eight. New Orleans used a second rounder next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to go up and make sure they got him. So
Speaker 1: they paid a little bit of a heavy price they did.
Speaker 1: But I mean, how many y'all would agree he's a
Speaker 1: plug in place starter? Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely. You lose
Speaker 1: Max Hunger to retirement a couple of weeks ago, plug
Speaker 1: plug a guy that's capable of taking his place right away.
Speaker 1: That's that's not a bad deal. That is big though.
Speaker 1: Two twos for a two is what they just did, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're late too, and then next well, next year's too.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they assume it's going to be very late.
Speaker 1: They also gave us sixth and they got back a fourth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so kind of a way to sweeten it, sweeten the
Speaker 1: pot a little bit. That's not bad. So Eric McCoy
Speaker 1: Texas A and M Center is going to be a
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saint. And that puts the Indianapolis Colts on
Speaker 1: the clock at number forty nine as we're inching closer
Speaker 1: to a Cowboy pick, which may or may not be
Speaker 1: at fifty eight. I don't think Jerry Jones and Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones have stopped comparing notes and doing math next to
Speaker 1: each other for the last ten or fifteen minutes. They're
Speaker 1: having a lot of conversations here. What are you thinking
Speaker 1: brought us like in terms of you know, what's going
Speaker 1: on in the war room right now, you've been there
Speaker 1: and live that. What I have and this is we
Speaker 1: actually did some two thousand and five with Marcus Spears,
Speaker 1: and you're just you know, there's teams in front of
Speaker 1: you know that they need, uh, defensive players, defensive ends.
Speaker 1: Erasmus James was one of those guys, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Michael Pollock, you know from Georgia at one time, you know,
Speaker 1: went right ahead of us and then we were able
Speaker 1: to take Spears. So yeah, you know it's I'm just
Speaker 1: looking for commitment here, and if if they were committed
Speaker 1: just to sitting, I don't think we would see as
Speaker 1: much discussion as we have right now. Now. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: in a situation too where they can't find somebody to
Speaker 1: trade with. And that's a little bit of a of
Speaker 1: a disconcerting thing to think about right there, because David
Speaker 1: laid it out for you earlier, the mind fields that
Speaker 1: you're going to have to go through, uh to to
Speaker 1: kind of get that player. I do think, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they're they're holding. You know, there's some teams that
Speaker 1: are still ahead of them. Uh that uh you know
Speaker 1: the again, the Philadelphia Eagles or a team you have
Speaker 1: to think about. The Rams were a team that we
Speaker 1: had talked about earlier and then and excumeing Philadelphia twice
Speaker 1: and so yeah, Minnesota, yeah coming up next. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is j Metcalf and AJ Brown are on the
Speaker 1: board at forty nine with the Colts on the clock.
Speaker 1: That's sounds smart. Can they go that way by one
Speaker 1: of these wide receivers? What do you love? AJ Brown?
Speaker 1: Is your twenty twenty starting? He might he might start
Speaker 1: now over Cob Now, I mean, do what you love
Speaker 1: A J. Brown and Michael will Gallup and Namari Cooper.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna it's gonna be very very interesting
Speaker 1: if we get to fifty eight and A. J. Brown
Speaker 1: and DK Metcalf are still on the board. I know
Speaker 1: you might have a plan for what you're gonna do,
Speaker 1: but I don't think you planned for that. I'm Brown
Speaker 1: fits what you would want to do here more than
Speaker 1: Metcalf does. I'm a big fan of having a receiver
Speaker 1: run straight and just throwing it as high as you
Speaker 1: can and see what happens. DK is fun. That part
Speaker 1: of the reason why Dez is gone. You're not You're
Speaker 1: not gonna finding a bigger Dak fan than me. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's dacks thing. Well, let's don't
Speaker 1: know if that's what you want for Dak Prescott. What
Speaker 1: do you think about the Colts though? I mean they
Speaker 1: do if it's Mattie Burfluss, they play similar scheme to
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys. A single high hooker is your free safety, right, Rap? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, can you get a thumper? Yeah? This is
Speaker 1: where this is where to me? You know, a guy
Speaker 1: like Rap makes a heck of a lot of sense. Again,
Speaker 1: this is nothing. I'm just I'm just saying, Matt Eberflus,
Speaker 1: if they want to play single high and you put
Speaker 1: Taylor Rap down there in that box, he's gonna make tackles,
Speaker 1: He's gonna be physical. You know, those are the things
Speaker 1: you kind of look for. And that's a team that
Speaker 1: we've talked about. They've got a real true free safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they could get somebody to play down for them,
Speaker 1: I mean, that makes a lot of sense. Form if
Speaker 1: they make this pick right now, I wouldn't forgive Eberflus
Speaker 1: if he did that. Well, I'm gonna say, Matt Eberflus
Speaker 1: shut this team out at last December, so he probably
Speaker 1: knows a thing or two about good defenders. Find a guess,
Speaker 1: go ahead and snatch one that the Cowboys would probably
Speaker 1: love to pick at fifty. It's a cult a team.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, David. Are they a team that needs a runner?
Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts. I think they're really happy with they
Speaker 1: Mac Yeah. Mac Okay can say well, yeah, cornerback, safety,
Speaker 1: d end and receiver. If if it's not a safety,
Speaker 1: then I mean, Jeff, it's cheerleading for these old mis
Speaker 1: receivers and I don't blame him. I also don't think
Speaker 1: they've necessarily viewed Mac as their bell cow guy. I
Speaker 1: think they like him. I think they know It reminds
Speaker 1: me a lot of the Cowboys, which is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we could stand to get a running back, but how
Speaker 1: high a resource do we want to use on? Or
Speaker 1: if they were to go running back, or the next
Speaker 1: team that goes running back, who is the next running back?
Speaker 1: It's Sanders from pit State, Miles Sanders. Damien Harris. All right,
Speaker 1: looks like Reggie Wayne is back at the podium. What's
Speaker 1: he gonna say this time we strike? We're good, all right,
Speaker 1: because I got clips, I got he all right? But
Speaker 1: uh you say that night? Yeah, Danapolis coach select Lee
Speaker 1: cow guy. The Cowboys likes early that. It feels quite
Speaker 1: early for a guy that you know, TCU win a bitch,
Speaker 1: he had a Yeah, he had a great combine. Somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna try to turn that athleticism into a really good
Speaker 1: football player. But Dane, how close is he to be
Speaker 1: in a finished product or how far away? Yeah? That's it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't see a power player.
Speaker 1: I worry about the play strength. But this is all
Speaker 1: about the athleticism, and look, this is the guy started
Speaker 1: his career at Louisiana. Monroe transferred to TCU the last
Speaker 1: two years, so we started three years at the at
Speaker 1: the college level. Each year he had over fourteen tackles
Speaker 1: for loss. Each year he was productive with sack. So
Speaker 1: he has the production. And then you factor in at
Speaker 1: six three and a half two fifty thirty four inch
Speaker 1: arms four six two and the forty jumped ridiculous forty
Speaker 1: in the verse eleven two and abroad, So the workout
Speaker 1: numbers the athletic testing. He's just he's an inconsistent point
Speaker 1: of attack player. But at the same time, when you
Speaker 1: can move like that, you're gonna be a nickel rusher
Speaker 1: and then you hope that you can develop in the more.
Speaker 1: But pass rush is so important the league. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: how you defend the pass is more important than how
Speaker 1: you defend the run. So if that's your weakness defending
Speaker 1: the run the point of attack, I think teams will
Speaker 1: teams are willing to live with that. I'm still shocked
Speaker 1: at that Edgy Reggie Wayne joke, given the history of
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison and that organization, that was a little a
Speaker 1: little much there, little edgy. Sometimes it's an accident. You're
Speaker 1: trying to make a joke. Are you seeing the room?
Speaker 1: Said the sniper. Yeah, that is true. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of that. There's a lot of activity going on in
Speaker 1: this at the war room here, it's involved now at
Speaker 1: the Ford Center. So yeah, they're they're trying to find
Speaker 1: a spot. Who was in the back. That's what I
Speaker 1: always said, Jerry there the back, but even further back
Speaker 1: it looks like probably dignitaries. Yeah, sometimes it's actually I
Speaker 1: thought that was Jim Maller. It is not. I was
Speaker 1: going to be fascinated if it will Jim, Yeah, Jim's
Speaker 1: at a table. The trainers are a table. Yeah we will.
Speaker 1: M clay just pulled off a great technique. He was
Speaker 1: standing up for a minute, kind of did the backstretch
Speaker 1: one time before sitting back down. I call that the
Speaker 1: last stand. Okay, you stand it because you settle in
Speaker 1: and you're really about to get get something going. Well,
Speaker 1: they're not hone in and let's get the business fifty
Speaker 1: because that pick is in for the Viking. Well, Jerry
Speaker 1: Junior that he had along that like eleven by seventeen
Speaker 1: sheet he has, that's their trade chart. In their hands.
Speaker 1: So he was over there trying to try to talk
Speaker 1: about what was going on. Been much of the last
Speaker 1: twenty minutes on the phone, and so they're all talking
Speaker 1: about going somewhere. They're talking about jumping somebody to go
Speaker 1: get a player, is what it looks like. So we're
Speaker 1: waiting on the fiftieth pick from Minnesota. But we've got
Speaker 1: a lot of activity in the Cowboys war room right now,
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, they're trying to again, it's trying to
Speaker 1: find a spot and what makes the most sense. And
Speaker 1: Steven has obviously laid some chum in the water here
Speaker 1: and he's trying to figure out, okay, where where can
Speaker 1: we land, where we might make this if if if
Speaker 1: teams are trying to hold him up, and we've seen
Speaker 1: really all night, teams really aren't holding yet. You know
Speaker 1: you can you can get some bargains here. So we'll
Speaker 1: see if in fact that that Steven and them were
Speaker 1: trying to play a little hardball with these guys, and uh,
Speaker 1: we'll But it looks like the vikings are I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come to the podiums. This stylish fellow is I believe
Speaker 1: that's Alan Page and Pro Football Hall of famer Calash
Speaker 1: who was one of the two roughly fiftieth picked into
Speaker 1: two thousand and ninteenth NFL Draft, the Mini turna vatkans
Speaker 1: selec Er Smith Zaragos, Alabama tight end as a fifty
Speaker 1: overall player. Uh, Dane, did you think that TCU was
Speaker 1: going to have two players selected before IRV Smith went
Speaker 1: off the board from Alabama? Yeah? Uh, mocked it that way.
Speaker 1: That's the way. Yeah, no good spot here. We thought
Speaker 1: that maybe Minnesota could go with one of the Iowa
Speaker 1: tight ends in the first Uh, if the right offensive
Speaker 1: line wasn't there for him, they get the right offensive
Speaker 1: lineman and Garrett Bradbury and here they get the what
Speaker 1: most people believe to be the third best tight end
Speaker 1: in the draft. Or Smith also one of the youngest
Speaker 1: players in the draft, doesn't turn twenty one years old
Speaker 1: until August, but could do a little bit of everything,
Speaker 1: and he was at his best where catching go routes.
Speaker 1: You get the ball in his hands, let me create
Speaker 1: after the catch, a lot of yards after the catch.
Speaker 1: On his tape watching right now on the screen, he
Speaker 1: does a nice job at the ball in his hands.
Speaker 1: Under sixty three didn't run a blazing forty. But you
Speaker 1: just watch him play and he's just a good tight end.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, he's not six four, he's not
Speaker 1: six five, he's not running a four to five. But
Speaker 1: he'll block a little bit. You can move him around
Speaker 1: a little bit, kind of use him as a mismatch
Speaker 1: toy ierf Smith can play. And if Smith is going
Speaker 1: to be a Minnesota vice is looking at where the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are eight picks away, the guys there that you
Speaker 1: that we think they could like. Where it's Tristan Hill,
Speaker 1: whether it's one Thornhill, Taylor, Rapnessier, Adderley, and who knows
Speaker 1: who else. I'm glad. I'm glad you said that last name. Though.
Speaker 1: That's the question that I keep asking myself, is is
Speaker 1: a guy gonna fall that's going to force them to
Speaker 1: change their tune? Again? Is Naser Adderley that guy? Is
Speaker 1: that possible? Me? Again? A guy so many people had
Speaker 1: as a first round safety. I don't really buy it.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have their game plan and are
Speaker 1: going to stick to it. But that is a name
Speaker 1: that I have circled just that you know, if you
Speaker 1: would I would have bet I would have bet fifty
Speaker 1: bucks at the start of this draft that he would
Speaker 1: be long gone by now, and he's sitting there. So
Speaker 1: my point is though, at fifty eight, seven picks away,
Speaker 1: you got four or five guys I just named off
Speaker 1: the top of my head. They right, you sit now.
Speaker 1: I do want to throw this out there. The Miami
Speaker 1: pick at sixty two. They have one first next year,
Speaker 1: and then they have two picks in each round. They
Speaker 1: have thirteen picks next year. The Josh Rosen trade is
Speaker 1: gonna happen tonight, and they're just gonna sweeten it up
Speaker 1: with these bad picks from from next year. I bet
Speaker 1: the Josh Rosen picks gonna happen soon. Well. The picks
Speaker 1: in for the Tennessee Titans at two fifty one, so
Speaker 1: this is a team, David. I didn't have anything for
Speaker 1: the Titans as far as messing with the Cowboys anyway.
Speaker 1: Titans safeties listed as a need. They didn't visit any
Speaker 1: of the big guys. Okay, well, maybe what have they
Speaker 1: done so far? Well, they took drafted jeff Jeffrey Simmons.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, Yeah, okay, any need for j Jalen Ferguson
Speaker 1: was a visit there and a couple tight ends. That's
Speaker 1: about all I got. Okay, let's take a break on
Speaker 1: the radio side here on one five three the Fan.
Speaker 1: We will be right back to get the Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: pick at number fifty one and maybe Cowboys, maybe take
Speaker 1: you all the way to the Cowboys pick. It is
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen draft on one h five three the Fan,
Speaker 1: and we brought you back with the Internet side of things.
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys. We've been talking about this. You know,
Speaker 1: the war room at the Ford Center has really been
Speaker 1: a buzz of activity, a lot of studying charts trying
Speaker 1: to find that spot to get to. We've kind of
Speaker 1: documented throughout this draft that it has been very easy
Speaker 1: to move around the board. It has not cost you
Speaker 1: much to do that. So we're going to the podium
Speaker 1: here and we're gonna get the Tennessee Titans pick Hell
Speaker 1: Offensive Rookie of the Year, four times Global Learned, Local Legend,
Speaker 1: Eddie Joint tighten ups definitely here in spirit Steve McNair
Speaker 1: were honored to have here the family of fallen here
Speaker 1: Lieutenant William Gilbert from Tennessee. We salute Navy Lieutenant William
Speaker 1: Gilbert and thank his family and the trashed the Assistant
Speaker 1: Program for Survivors TAPS, which offers care to those grieving
Speaker 1: the loss of a military loved one. And here announcing
Speaker 1: the pick is the Gilbert family. Was it fifty first
Speaker 1: pick in the two nineteen NFL Draft, the Tennessee tie
Speaker 1: and select a J. Brown wide receiver A J. Brown. Well,
Speaker 1: Bob dake it fantastic value. It picked fifty one A J. Brown.
Speaker 1: I was telling you know, if I'm one of those nerds,
Speaker 1: the fantasy football nerds, you know, I'd say this, if
Speaker 1: you're like in an old rookie league, there's your guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's the guy who steps in
Speaker 1: and could immediately, if put in the right spot, sixty
Speaker 1: seventy eighty balls immediately because the things that he does
Speaker 1: to find a way and get open and catch everything
Speaker 1: that you put in his area, He's gonna come down
Speaker 1: with it. I love A J. Brown, man. I think
Speaker 1: that's an awesome pick. Went ahead of his teammate there
Speaker 1: the DK METCAF Jeff. You you watched him as well,
Speaker 1: and you've you've had a lot of positive things to
Speaker 1: say about him. He was one of the guys that
Speaker 1: it took me a while to actually come around on him,
Speaker 1: because at first I didn't like that he just didn't
Speaker 1: look like a really twitchy, explosive move Routes and stuff too,
Speaker 1: like that, right the routes. I think the more that
Speaker 1: you watch him, the more you can appreciate that he's
Speaker 1: just such a natural catcher of the ball. The contact
Speaker 1: doesn't bother him. He's hard to tackle after the catch.
Speaker 1: I just think there's so much about him there over
Speaker 1: the middle. Yeah, without being elite as an athlete or
Speaker 1: a great separator. He's just he's just he's gonna catch
Speaker 1: it and then he's gonna break tackles. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like Kat you were saying earlier about like a Jarvis
Speaker 1: Landry kind of guy. Yeah, where there's something that really
Speaker 1: stands out, except he's just good at football. Dirty work guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, And and that sounds like I'm talking about
Speaker 1: just a try hard. He's not a try hard guy.
Speaker 1: He is gonna be productive. I mean I think he
Speaker 1: for years in the NFL catch seventy five eight ninety balls.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is on the clock right now at two fifty two.
Speaker 1: This is a pick they got from the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1: I believe that's it's I got so many things. Denver
Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh, A rare Bengals exactly, Bengals shight here again,
Speaker 1: they're not one of the minefield teams that were worried about.
Speaker 1: Here they are at fifty two. Uh. There after that, though,
Speaker 1: this is where it gets a little interesting, because then
Speaker 1: you got Philadelphia, Houston, Houston, and then the Rams. And
Speaker 1: we've identified Philadelphia and the Rams as two of your
Speaker 1: minefield teams. Bengals are at the podium. Let's go there
Speaker 1: three times. Bengals Man of the Year, Willie Anderson. Who
Speaker 1: who the h hold with the new Days? Okay, now,
Speaker 1: what's up everybody? Back home and mobile? I'll about mother
Speaker 1: home of the Senior Bowl, the forty second Pig, the
Speaker 1: two thousan nineteen NFL Draft, the kind of being select
Speaker 1: Drew Sample tight end Washington Cruce Samples. I mean the
Speaker 1: Cowboys really liked I liked Drew Sample. Not that I
Speaker 1: think I locked him in. I mocked him in the
Speaker 1: fourth round here, I think I liked him. The values
Speaker 1: on these players is all over the board this year.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll can go back to the fan here.
Speaker 1: It feels like there's no difference in some of these
Speaker 1: teams minds between like forty and one hundred. Yeah, here
Speaker 1: we go, Radio, welcome back. We're at pick fifty two
Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft, in the second round here and
Speaker 1: it's tight end Drew Sample from the University of Washington
Speaker 1: going to the Bengals. I thought that we as a
Speaker 1: group really liked Drew Sample when we were talking about
Speaker 1: him as a potential fourth round or so target. Apparently
Speaker 1: we didn't like him as much as the Bengals did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought we liked him. That's liking him. So the
Speaker 1: Bengals are the locked Sample oh to Dallas. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would have loved him as a mid round sort of player.
Speaker 1: But where I want to bring everybody's attention is we
Speaker 1: are now on to pick fifty three, and that's the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles the Cowboys. You're at fifty eight, and if
Speaker 1: you want to talk about safeties, Taylor Rapp is on
Speaker 1: the board. Adderaly from Delaware is on the board, Chauncey
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson from Florida is on the board, and one
Speaker 1: Thornhill is on the board. You've got four of the
Speaker 1: safeties that they've shown interest in, and visit well, Adderly,
Speaker 1: we don't know, but at least three that they've shown
Speaker 1: interest and visited with, and you're only five picks away,
Speaker 1: and at least two of those safeties the Eagles have
Speaker 1: shown interest in as well. They brought Chauncey Gardner, Johnson
Speaker 1: and wan Thornhill in. It might be a similar case
Speaker 1: where picking fifty third they maybe never thought Taylor rapp
Speaker 1: Or or Nasir Adelie would even be there. They certainly
Speaker 1: didn't hesitate in making their pick. It's already in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and let's go we again. We're at the looking into
Speaker 1: the war room at the at the Ford Center. Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones is on the phone. He's working off his charts
Speaker 1: right there to try and at this point, at this point,
Speaker 1: what's the point, right, they might be they go back.
Speaker 1: They might be going back now, they might they might
Speaker 1: be going back player, Yeah, exactly. We think I wouldn't
Speaker 1: hate going back at all, especially if they like Tristan
Speaker 1: Hill as well, they like Jalen Ferguson as well. We've
Speaker 1: got safeties on safeties. We've got Justin Lane in the corner.
Speaker 1: We've got ste It corner that I like. We've got
Speaker 1: Sternbergers on the board. Dawson Knox, Kale Warring or are
Speaker 1: tight ends on the board. I wouldn't hate them. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't hate to move back at all. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know this is a team that kind of you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about the maybe looking at a situation where
Speaker 1: they have a very top heavy salary cap situations and
Speaker 1: they draft really well and that they'll find some middle
Speaker 1: class that could play. Tuesday night, when we tried to
Speaker 1: mock this thing, we got wiped out. And now you're
Speaker 1: staring at the situation here. There's too many options. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Eagles on the clock at fifty three. I've got Van Dane.
Speaker 1: I saw him and putting asira aderlie to them and
Speaker 1: is mocked today, Right makes sense. I think running back
Speaker 1: could make sense for them. They went and got Andre
Speaker 1: Dillard yesterday, chaded up to get him. I don't you know.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm not a guy who's trying to get
Speaker 1: second round running back for the Eagles. If they wanted
Speaker 1: to go take Damien Harris right now and trying to
Speaker 1: make him their feature back, I'd be all aboard that train.
Speaker 1: As a Cowboys fan, yeah, you know, and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were one of those teams and I think the Eagles
Speaker 1: take a little pride. They always like to think like
Speaker 1: they traded ahead of Dallas, or got ahead of Dallas,
Speaker 1: or positioned themselves so they can get a player that
Speaker 1: Dallas wanted. Yeah, you know again, they've got two picks
Speaker 1: in this thing right ahead of them, and I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, yeah, I don't think they want to lose
Speaker 1: their guy. But to me, it seems like that they
Speaker 1: might be in a mode to back up and grab
Speaker 1: grab some more picks, maybe grab an extra picking or
Speaker 1: in the third round. But then again, we haven't seen
Speaker 1: the value, you know, the value of people coming up
Speaker 1: and giving a lot of stuff to make this happen.
Speaker 1: So they might be very content though, just to sit
Speaker 1: there and make their pick as well. A little surprise
Speaker 1: that DK Metcalf is still on the board. You didn't
Speaker 1: see Drew Sample going ahead of DK Metcalf. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't go ahead of DK Metcalf. Everybody said that the
Speaker 1: Iowa guys and um IRV Smith where the top three.
Speaker 1: Did anybody think Sample would be the next tight end
Speaker 1: off the board? No, that is surprising, but it was
Speaker 1: my seventh tight end, and I thought I liked him
Speaker 1: more than everybody else. I know. There were some teams
Speaker 1: that liked him in the third round. I did not
Speaker 1: see him going with fifty two overall. That's a surprise.
Speaker 1: I do know some teams thought of enough of him
Speaker 1: to take him, possibly take him in the third round,
Speaker 1: but that was pretty high. That was a bit of
Speaker 1: a surprise. The Bengals must have thought there's no way
Speaker 1: they could wait another round. I'm looking at the board
Speaker 1: of of things that the Eagles might might do, and
Speaker 1: we've talked about all these secondary guys. I do feel
Speaker 1: like running backs a good spot for them. My next
Speaker 1: running back is Miles Sanders. Yeah, right, like that. From
Speaker 1: the perspective of having it, I did forget. I did
Speaker 1: forget that they did trade for Jordan Howard. Ye believe
Speaker 1: he's got one year on his deal. Yeah, Eagles pick
Speaker 1: is at the podium. I quick, Hey, Philadelphia Eagles fans,
Speaker 1: I know you're out there. Not really. With the fifty
Speaker 1: third pig and the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles select Miles Sanders. Oh God, I love. I
Speaker 1: knew they were gonna go runner, dude. I knew they
Speaker 1: were gonna go runner, and I did not want that
Speaker 1: to be the runner. They Took. I think Miles Sanders
Speaker 1: tape is really really good. Fumbles a lot, good point
Speaker 1: some we're gonna have to fix. Listen. I can go
Speaker 1: full Tarper on a guy at any time, but I
Speaker 1: can say, listen, new rule or hold it like this
Speaker 1: and we're gonna fix that. The way he runs the ball,
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm gonna quick Miles Sanders scouting report
Speaker 1: for you guys. Just think, but it's gonna be more
Speaker 1: in the form of a crystal ball. Maybe it's the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty season Week seventeen Cowboys Eagles fighting for the
Speaker 1: NFC's championship. Miles Sanders fumbles late in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: to fumble away a victory. Cowboys recover go on to
Speaker 1: win the NFC East. Miles Sanders, I do love him, though,
Speaker 1: I just think there's uh some running backs when you
Speaker 1: watch their tape, the fee seemed to be in sync
Speaker 1: more than others like him. I feel like his ability
Speaker 1: to just kind of slide through holes. It's like he's there.
Speaker 1: There's an explosion and a decisiveness and a quickness to
Speaker 1: him hitting holes and going. It's not say Kwon Barkley,
Speaker 1: but he'll break some tackles. He'll make some guys miss.
Speaker 1: I'm a big Miles Sanders fan. If he stops fumbling,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be real good. We talked last
Speaker 1: night about the NFC East kind of hitting the reset
Speaker 1: button on quarterback. You got Daniel Jones and Haskins joining Carson,
Speaker 1: Wentzon dak Well, you obviously have Zeke, then you got
Speaker 1: now you have Barkley, you're getting Geiss and now Miles Sanders.
Speaker 1: Nice used to Chexans now going to the podium with
Speaker 1: the fifty fourth pick in the two thy nineteen NFL draft,
Speaker 1: the Houston Sasans. So like Lennie Johnson dB, they'll get
Speaker 1: one of those long corners out of there for some
Speaker 1: people that sorry, one of the long corners out of there.
Speaker 1: Sorry you missed my button there. Um, I know there's
Speaker 1: some people that thought he could go somewhere around this range.
Speaker 1: I didn't have him there, but Dane, where did you
Speaker 1: see Lonnie Johnson, six foot two corner out of Kentucky
Speaker 1: going fourth round? Uh? No, I mean we expected him
Speaker 1: to go this high. I had a fourth round grade.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get why they
Speaker 1: people liked him because he's big and he can run,
Speaker 1: but everything else is kind of working progress. The ball, skills,
Speaker 1: the instincts. Uh, it's just a really talented lump of clay,
Speaker 1: and so there's a lot you can do with that.
Speaker 1: A little surprised that it's Lonnie Johnson and not Isaiah
Speaker 1: Johnson R. But uh, you know, for a lot of
Speaker 1: those reasons we just said, not too much surprised that
Speaker 1: he's going this high. He's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: you can't teach, just needs some time. That's an inconsistent player,
Speaker 1: Like sometimes he'd want to tackle, sometimes he wouldn't. He
Speaker 1: didn't see the route anticipation either. So you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I look at the body. I feel like I can
Speaker 1: do something with it. But man, second round that seems
Speaker 1: a little early for me. I had a fifth round
Speaker 1: grade on him. So if you're the Dallas Cowboys, who
Speaker 1: we're now at the we're at the fifty fifth pick again,
Speaker 1: this is Houston's gonna be back on the clock. Not
Speaker 1: a lot of urgency and no, they're they're gonna sit
Speaker 1: there and gonna ride this. And they're gonna sit there
Speaker 1: and ride and in all likelihood they're gonna get the
Speaker 1: guy that they're gonna get a choice of the guy
Speaker 1: they want. And we talked about Hill, we talked about Thornhill,
Speaker 1: We've talked about Rap, We've talked about a lot of
Speaker 1: guys here, and it looks like that they're gonna have
Speaker 1: the opportunity to pick that. We'll see which one of
Speaker 1: those guys they had higher in on their stack as
Speaker 1: we get to this, uh, this pick this has worked out.
Speaker 1: I don't think it can work out any better for
Speaker 1: them right now. There was a lot of moving around
Speaker 1: trying to get things done, maybe working the phone a
Speaker 1: little bit. But it looks like we are we setting
Speaker 1: sale on the idea of a trade back. Well, they
Speaker 1: just chumped on the phone. They just chump on the phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I you know again, they look very calm about
Speaker 1: just sitting there. And so maybe Stephen Jones is going
Speaker 1: to entertain some opportunity to go back here. You remember
Speaker 1: a time in recent memory when they went back. I
Speaker 1: know they've gone up a few times. They went up
Speaker 1: for Xavier Woods, they went up for DeMarcus Lawrence. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't they went back for Travis Frederick. That was a
Speaker 1: long time ago, yeah, seven years ago. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a bad year to go back a
Speaker 1: year that you've only got six picks in the entire draft,
Speaker 1: were who might So they're trading away from a great
Speaker 1: player here. I don't want great, but if Dancalf pans out,
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of trading back here because we're
Speaker 1: seeing home you were talking about being aggressive, we're saying
Speaker 1: how unpredictable it is right now with these players coming
Speaker 1: off the board. I mean, why trade away from a
Speaker 1: player that you like? And why I just take Taylor Rap?
Speaker 1: I would sit there, That's what I'm saying, want thorn Hill,
Speaker 1: I mean, take take the player you want here instead
Speaker 1: of going back and then taking whoever's left of a
Speaker 1: handful of guys. Take your guy that you want for
Speaker 1: this team. Who's the guy that you want that's on
Speaker 1: the board right now? Minds Taylor Rap guy that I want?
Speaker 1: Rapp guy? Isn't it me or them? You? I would
Speaker 1: take Rap? I think Raps a better fit for you
Speaker 1: want to do. And here's the Houston picking fifty five.
Speaker 1: Here we go back to Houston, NFL. The Houston Texans
Speaker 1: Sole Max shopping tackle Northern Illinois. Wow, something all right?
Speaker 1: Little small school tackle action there with Max SHARPUS League right,
Speaker 1: going to the Houston Texans at fifty five, which means
Speaker 1: seven fifty eight. We have two more picks before the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys are going to be on the clock, and
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys when they're on the clock, are going
Speaker 1: to have between these players, some of them are gonna
Speaker 1: be there, Nasiere, Adderley, Taylor, rapp One, Thornhill, Chauncey Gardner, Johnson,
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, Jichai Polite, Mac Wilson. They're not gonna take
Speaker 1: a linebacker. You got players. You've got Justin Lane's Justin Lane.
Speaker 1: You've got corner options, you've got safety options, and Dk
Speaker 1: metcalfs there. If you were picking at fifty eight giving
Speaker 1: the rams, wouldn't you already be on the phone with
Speaker 1: the play Yeah? No, because the teams themselves are at
Speaker 1: least a pick or two ahead of what you're seeing
Speaker 1: on TV. So so they moved back, right, It's just
Speaker 1: I'm speculating, Yeah it would. If they were moving back,
Speaker 1: wouldn't they be on the phone right now? Yeah? They're,
Speaker 1: but they're I think they're talking about right now. They're
Speaker 1: they're exactly they're doing exactly what we're doing here, you know,
Speaker 1: that it is, and Stephen Jones he just threw his
Speaker 1: hands out like, hey, let's go let's just take that guy.
Speaker 1: This goes back to it. So I asked this earlier,
Speaker 1: like again natterly, not really a guy we've talked about
Speaker 1: for this team, because we didn't really think it was possible,
Speaker 1: Like I wonder we might have overrated him. Maybe we did.
Speaker 1: Maybe we're overrated. Is there a guy available that is
Speaker 1: is there a guy available that is changing the conversation?
Speaker 1: We could have a consensus guy. If we don't have
Speaker 1: a consensus guy, then let's go back. But see, let's
Speaker 1: go back. But do they have a consensus guy? And
Speaker 1: is it? I think they're struggling with it right now.
Speaker 1: I think they're struggling with They're looking at that board
Speaker 1: and they're looking at that said Kansas City's now come up, Uh,
Speaker 1: this is a pick that this was the Rams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Rams were on the clock. Rams do not want
Speaker 1: to pick tonight, it sure don't. Chiefs. Corner might be
Speaker 1: might be losing a wide receiver. To keep that in
Speaker 1: mind as well. Right in the light of last night,
Speaker 1: I'd say, corner or receiver E is that justin lane?
Speaker 1: Who are your top corners. I'd have justin Lane Julia
Speaker 1: Love also like David Long, Kansas City gives up sixty one,
Speaker 1: and they give up one sixty seven and then a
Speaker 1: and a second round, second round, pick one. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: that's right, fifty six fifty six. Now the Rams get
Speaker 1: why did they give up one sixty seven? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: yes they're fifth. They're fifth. Okay, So in other words,
Speaker 1: the cost for Dallas is a fifth if you want
Speaker 1: to move up right now exactly. But they don't need
Speaker 1: You don't need to move up. You don't need to
Speaker 1: move up at all. Kansas City felt like they did.
Speaker 1: So Kansas City is going up. They're gonna pick here
Speaker 1: at number fifty six. I'm gonna update my little chart
Speaker 1: here cornerbacks and wide receivers, DK Metcalf, is there hell
Speaker 1: of a bargain? It would make six. I think it
Speaker 1: would make sense to go up for Metcalf at this point.
Speaker 1: Right if you want a receiver, do you feel like
Speaker 1: Metcalf and Pat Mahomes is a good fit. It sounds
Speaker 1: like a lot of fun to me. Two superheroes right there. Hey,
Speaker 1: go run a four or three down the field, you
Speaker 1: monster and Pat might throw it once you're seventy yards
Speaker 1: down there. That would certainly make some sense if they
Speaker 1: want to go at the high upside talent like that. Look,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions about Metcalf, but I'm
Speaker 1: shocked he's still on the board here this late. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. I think I've updated my profile of my
Speaker 1: ideal receiver. My ideal receiver is now six foot tall
Speaker 1: and he's one hundred ninety five pounds, and he runs
Speaker 1: good routes. But it's not I don't know. The next
Speaker 1: time I'm gonna turn on, I'd say, hey, there's Megatron. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think teams are scared of his ability not to
Speaker 1: turn Yeah, I think they're scared of this movement. I
Speaker 1: really do. The second I'm gonna says we can't, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna make a living off stop slants and go route.
Speaker 1: What's going great? You know, I said, that's not Dax game.
Speaker 1: It's definitely Pat Mahomes game, isn't it Isn't that what
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill did for two years? Well, and that's can
Speaker 1: run under bombs. To me, DK Metcalf is an oversized
Speaker 1: heed gin. That that's what he is. He gets vertical.
Speaker 1: He's not a guy who's gonna help you on this,
Speaker 1: you know, as a route runner, but he can get
Speaker 1: upon the defense and because of his size, he can
Speaker 1: overpower and box out defenders you know where. He sounds
Speaker 1: like he could succeed in an offense with a freaking
Speaker 1: howitzer armed quarterback who has escapability, who doesn't mind throwing
Speaker 1: it down there. Yeah, I'm all in on that if
Speaker 1: I'm the Chiefs. I just following like a couple of
Speaker 1: Eagles writers on Twitter, and a couple of them say
Speaker 1: expect the Eagles to go safety at fifty seven. So
Speaker 1: that's okay. Even if they do, it'll be one out
Speaker 1: of about four. They're not allowed to pick four safeties
Speaker 1: at fifty seven. They're just gonna narrow down the field.
Speaker 1: But it's like we forgot that Triston Hill and Jalen
Speaker 1: Ferguson exist all of a sudden. I haven't forgotten. If
Speaker 1: I had to bet right now, I still think it'll
Speaker 1: be he. Cowboy's fans are gonna be shocked if they
Speaker 1: go Triston Hill over sitting in a situation realistic, those
Speaker 1: guys are there, and they might still go with their
Speaker 1: pass rusher. Again, We've talked to Best all along they
Speaker 1: what they want to do, we want to do to
Speaker 1: not care what tying to tell Jeff that as long
Speaker 1: as I've known, they shouldn't care what we want to do.
Speaker 1: But I'm also entitled to want to do what i
Speaker 1: want to do for five months. As you can see,
Speaker 1: that's the third round and that's where Tristan Hill is
Speaker 1: and this is the second round where these guys are yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that easy. Well, they obviously think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: really different though, so I think the look that yeah
Speaker 1: real quick on air producing Jeff looking at the clock.
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave because we're so close, But
Speaker 1: you tell me, Chiefs are on the podium real quick
Speaker 1: if you want, We're gonna take the podium real quick,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna take a break and be back
Speaker 1: to get to the Cowboy. Hey, Chiefs Nation, we have
Speaker 1: been knocking on that door a long time. Still, I
Speaker 1: feel like I am now making the pick for the
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: We'll do it, yes, save it for Arrowhead. Low fousless
Speaker 1: Rams have traded the pickty sixth pick to the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs with the fifty sixth pick and the two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs have select
Speaker 1: it meet Cole Hardman. Oh yeah, we go. We picked
Speaker 1: the fake Tyreek Hill, Tyreek Hill. They didn't do the
Speaker 1: poor man's Tyrek Hill. Oh God, absolutely love and one
Speaker 1: it at ninety. But that is a perfect fit for
Speaker 1: that team. My first fake pin throw of the night.
Speaker 1: Holy cow. They just went ahead and said, all right,
Speaker 1: we see what's going on. We'll just replace you with
Speaker 1: the other version of you. I'm so sad that the
Speaker 1: guy who doesn't run routes won't be there for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to pick one five three. The fan will will
Speaker 1: be right back. Pick fifty seven is up, then it's
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and we'll be back for it. One five
Speaker 1: three the fan. Oh I love McCall Hardman. While we
Speaker 1: were talking about metcalf, I was that close to being like, well, hey,
Speaker 1: just take hard if you want to replace Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1: Makes sense, Yeah, okay, you know what Hardman. Hardman is
Speaker 1: a great for them, because again they have Mahomes. I
Speaker 1: would not like it here. I don't think it would
Speaker 1: have been good here. I'm happy. I'm happy. I don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about it. To be perfectly honest with you, man,
Speaker 1: this is uh, this is interesting now because Philadelphia, whatever
Speaker 1: they're gonna do, and you're sitting here and going I
Speaker 1: wish I knew I had it. I wish I had
Speaker 1: to narrowed down to who are the guys that they like,
Speaker 1: like really like. Well, if they take the safety, if
Speaker 1: they take a safety, it shouldn't affect the Cowboys at all. Nope,
Speaker 1: they really shouldn't. Yeah, because it I have a feeling
Speaker 1: if they if they go ahead and take the Virginia safety,
Speaker 1: if they take him, that means the Cowboys is gonna
Speaker 1: take Hill for sure. I mean I think I think
Speaker 1: he'll think they're out on rap. I think they're I
Speaker 1: think they're out on rap. I really do. I think
Speaker 1: they're out now they might show the way this is
Speaker 1: going is rap and not. Is he a possibility in
Speaker 1: the third round? I mean I can't buy out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I just think like that, whoever again, if if
Speaker 1: the if that safety goes from Virginia, I don't think
Speaker 1: that bothers. I don't think that bothers these guys at all.
Speaker 1: I really really don't. So we'll see how that all. Uh,
Speaker 1: that all shakes out, But I don't know. They look public.
Speaker 1: They look they look they look happy, laughing. They just
Speaker 1: fist bumped. Did they already make their picks? They must
Speaker 1: have made the pick? Ye? Do we have any coaches
Speaker 1: in there standing behind the Yeah, maybe they finally wised
Speaker 1: up and stopped inviting those guys in there. Oh wait, no,
Speaker 1: Chris Hall's on the phone. Is that not Rod Mire?
Speaker 1: And ellis standing off to the side. That is that's
Speaker 1: right over ya. You know who it is? Y? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is going to be This is going to be
Speaker 1: Hill is what this is going to be. Heel's pick
Speaker 1: is in at fifty seven cowboys on deck. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find this receiver. You guys in love with Cole Hartman? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's the most raw wide receiver. Probably that's
Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, taking today. At least you look
Speaker 1: at those guys. Fine? Can I wrote on my notes
Speaker 1: poor Man's Tyreek Hill. Ye, he's a joystick after the catch,
Speaker 1: not a refined route runner, but can catch it and
Speaker 1: make people miss speed, had some home run balls. Can
Speaker 1: go be a punt return punt returner as well, but
Speaker 1: new to the position because he played dev think he
Speaker 1: knows how to run like the little shifty Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: type route kind of deals. But he can run a
Speaker 1: deep out and get open. He can run a post
Speaker 1: corner can Because weren't you like, weren't you mister no
Speaker 1: raw receivers last year? Yeah? But have you seen Mcole
Speaker 1: Harman play? Yes, I have. He's a beast. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's a beast. Yeah, he'll be this year.
Speaker 1: That dude's going from he'll be a beast with with
Speaker 1: Pat throwing him the ball. Maybe Eagles pick coming to
Speaker 1: the podium now to two thousand and seven fifth round
Speaker 1: pick and Super Bowl fifty two champion Brent Summit Eagles.
Speaker 1: Fast give it to me one time? Hey, Radio Health close,
Speaker 1: are we here? You go? With the fifty seventh pick
Speaker 1: of the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 1: select jj R Sega Whiteside Stanford. They took the wrong
Speaker 1: big wide receiver, the Eagles Stanford wide receiver jj R
Speaker 1: segay Side or DK. Yeah. No, I'm telling you everybody's
Speaker 1: everybody's worried about this guy's ability to turn. That's the
Speaker 1: problem and his neck maybe right. Yeah, Well, Dallas is
Speaker 1: on the clock. Okay, and again, hey, if the Eagle
Speaker 1: gonna draft a big wide receiver, those big corners that
Speaker 1: Christian Schard wants to be good for our Sega Whiteside,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get them tomorrow. Well or I think Richard
Speaker 1: was coming back to radio here, might be sorry, David.
Speaker 1: You guys know you're on the inside. You know what's what.
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, welcome back. The Dallas Cowboys are on the
Speaker 1: clock at number fifty eight here in the second round,
Speaker 1: and Philadelphia Eagles just took Stanford wide receiver jj R
Speaker 1: Sega Whiteside, whose specialty is scoring touchdowns. Yeah, just kind
Speaker 1: of winning Joe balls, winning with positioning and attacking the
Speaker 1: ball in the air. And that's who's going at number
Speaker 1: fifty seven, which means at fifty eight, the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: have their choice of a lot of guys they've shown
Speaker 1: interest in one Thornhill Taylor rap our guy Hill, the
Speaker 1: defensive tackle from Central Florida. Our defensive end Jalen Ferguson,
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf is on the board. Justin Lane, the corner
Speaker 1: from Michigan State eight is on the board. They've got
Speaker 1: their choice of a lot of different guys. And Rod
Speaker 1: Marinelli is in the war room. If I had to guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I mean Jalen Ferguson, Tristan Hill, maybe wan Thornhill.
Speaker 1: I mean Rod is technically the defensive coordinators, and I
Speaker 1: think Chris Richard was in there a minute ago. So
Speaker 1: anything's possible. But I'm I'm leaning they've survived. They survived
Speaker 1: the land mines they have they've survived the land mines.
Speaker 1: They tried, they worked hard. You saw him in the
Speaker 1: war room throughout, Stephen Jones was working the trade chart hard,
Speaker 1: which he was working the phones. But they survived all
Speaker 1: that that we talked about pre draft. Barbe it from me,
Speaker 1: like they deserve the benefit of the doubt. But yet,
Speaker 1: I mean, look at look at the value. Look at
Speaker 1: what's happened in this draft, like Lonnie Lonnie Johnson, fourth
Speaker 1: round pick, Ben Banagoo's already off the board, like Drew Sample,
Speaker 1: Marquis Blair, like McGarry. Teams are drastically varying and how
Speaker 1: they value these guys clearly, So maybe they're guys still
Speaker 1: there because they have him graded higher than anybody else. Now,
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys a lot of these picks as we've
Speaker 1: been watching as soon as they're Tiger starts. We've seen
Speaker 1: that the pick is in. Yeah, the Cowboys, we are
Speaker 1: not seeing so far that the pick is in. No,
Speaker 1: but they're in that war room chill, and they've probably
Speaker 1: turned it in and they are Chris Hall is on
Speaker 1: the phone and I just watched him hold up two fingers, uh,
Speaker 1: telling him that because we're about to come. So they're
Speaker 1: a little bit ahead of us right now. We just
Speaker 1: got the two minute warning for Dallas U. They got
Speaker 1: every or something that they are. They're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out Stephen Jones obviously waving Steven. There's clearly a youngster
Speaker 1: at the war room because that was the hello youngsters.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've done enough of these two. Like they
Speaker 1: made this pick already, didn't they Like they're five to
Speaker 1: ten minutes ahead. They have not picked in fifty seven players.
Speaker 1: They're shaking hands with Rod and Chris Roushard. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so our pick is gonna be in. We're gonna wait
Speaker 1: to see it be announced and see who the player
Speaker 1: is going to be. It's a defender. It's a defender,
Speaker 1: Taylor Rap, Tristan Hill, Monsieur Adderley one Thornhill. Everybody say
Speaker 1: it's Tristan Hill. Let me tell you this. They thought
Speaker 1: this board would stretch, and we did really a doomsday
Speaker 1: type of a mock draft the other day and had
Speaker 1: a lot of decisions to have to make. They they
Speaker 1: made decisions on great players. We we made decisions on
Speaker 1: bad players. Are guys that we thought, my point might
Speaker 1: be questionable players. So you know, good for them if
Speaker 1: they again, they were very We talked about patients we
Speaker 1: opened this draft. We talked about could they sit there
Speaker 1: for fifty seven picks and allow it to come to them?
Speaker 1: And mister Jones is on the phone with whoever it is,
Speaker 1: mister Jones, Stephen Stevens, sorry, and we will end up
Speaker 1: with that audio, you know that, well end up minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll have that. Whoever that player is, he's on the
Speaker 1: phone with Stephen Jones right now, and Stephen is probably
Speaker 1: going to pass that phone to either Chris Richard or
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli and they're gonna go around the horn. Interesting first,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, Yeah, you'll get a did Jerry Jones get
Speaker 1: on the phone? I did not see him. A man,
Speaker 1: a little simbot might go hungry. Okay, who's christ Rashard
Speaker 1: was hugging I'm hungry. Yeah, Chris was hugging Stephen Jones.
Speaker 1: So but but Marinelli was the more anxious of the
Speaker 1: two the whole time, kind of tapping his leg and
Speaker 1: things like he's the defensive coordinator. It could still be
Speaker 1: a dB KT. I'm I'm betting not. We'll see. I'm
Speaker 1: bet this is This is really intriguing because there's so
Speaker 1: many good names. It's not really cut dry here, but
Speaker 1: we kind of feel like, well, we've known for about
Speaker 1: three months they would be a defender, all right, Is
Speaker 1: anybody still doubting now? Who they put him on the
Speaker 1: phone with. Rod's got to say hey stud. Every defensive player,
Speaker 1: he says, he's got to say hey stud to pass rushers.
Speaker 1: Bro Okay, I guess that's possible. If Chris gets on
Speaker 1: the phone, then maybe I'll change my tune. I think
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a six three dude from Central Florida.
Speaker 1: You want still tape him today? Though you did well?
Speaker 1: It appears that we've got the pick at the podium
Speaker 1: two tall. Speaking of pass rushers, Hello, bask here, that'sible
Speaker 1: what it feels so good to be back home in
Speaker 1: beautiful Tennessee. I would like to send a shout out
Speaker 1: to Tennessee State and all the HBCU in the Cowboy
Speaker 1: fans in the house tonight, Oh boy, all right. In
Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys, the
Speaker 1: elect Tristan Hill. You see, Dallas Cowboys got that guy.
Speaker 1: That's the guy we've been talking about. They that we've
Speaker 1: been Brian even float the idea of will they be
Speaker 1: aggressive and go up and get him Dame you two. Instead,
Speaker 1: they sit at fifty eight and they had their I
Speaker 1: come to them. It just felt right. It just felt
Speaker 1: like that's who they wanted. Throughout the process, it became
Speaker 1: more obvious that they were looking for that impact three
Speaker 1: technique and this is a guy that can shoot gaps.
Speaker 1: He plays with energy. You love the motor, and it
Speaker 1: equals production in the backfield. So you do worry about
Speaker 1: a little bit when he butted heads with coaches and
Speaker 1: UCF didn't start as this past season. But you know what,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of players like that who have gone on
Speaker 1: to have productive NFL careers. To Marcus Lawrence being one
Speaker 1: of them. People forget he was suspended three different times
Speaker 1: Boise State, so this is a young player who has
Speaker 1: some maturity things to work out. But if it clicks
Speaker 1: and the upside is there, then you're gonna get a
Speaker 1: really productive three technique. And we all know that's what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys cover it. And it's the whole thing, like
Speaker 1: maturity things coming in. Does a guy like footballs he
Speaker 1: really loved football and want to get better at football?
Speaker 1: Like those are questions you got to ask, And I
Speaker 1: don't think those are the types of maturity problems, are right,
Speaker 1: You're The basic maturity problems you had with Hill were
Speaker 1: basic things that you see out of a lot of
Speaker 1: twenty years old and and not necessarily football related, or
Speaker 1: you may I'm gonna use David Irving as an example.
Speaker 1: He always want to be here. I don't think you
Speaker 1: have a problem with Tristan Hill wanting to be there,
Speaker 1: you know. So I think that's a good picking on
Speaker 1: what I like about Tristan Hill. As you see the flashinists,
Speaker 1: but I think you see the explosion in the lower body.
Speaker 1: He could play the three. He could give you snaps
Speaker 1: at the one as well, I believe. And I just
Speaker 1: think he's a guy who plays really well with his hands,
Speaker 1: his arms, not the longest arms of the world. But
Speaker 1: he plays well with his hands and shows the power.
Speaker 1: Let Rod coach him up a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: the upside on Tristan Hill is really really good for sure.
Speaker 1: I think I'm looking at my notes and I've got
Speaker 1: in there plays with snap and violence in his game,
Speaker 1: able to push pole guys, strong hands, poles effort. He
Speaker 1: also has I put in here that there's a lot
Speaker 1: of plays in the backfield that are almost plays where
Speaker 1: he's got a chance to make tackles for loss, because
Speaker 1: at three and a half sacks and ten tackles for
Speaker 1: loss for an interior player, you're not wowing me with
Speaker 1: those numbers in college. But he also had a whole
Speaker 1: lot of almost his plays. Let's get the cult selection
Speaker 1: and then we'll continue talking about the Cowboys pick. We
Speaker 1: got a lot of picks where nine pick the two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen NFL Draft, The Indianapolis Colt select Paris Campbell
Speaker 1: receiver Ohio State A burneris Colts another non dk Metcalf
Speaker 1: receiver off the board. Yes, sir, I guess turning does matter.
Speaker 1: That is my guy. I was really, really really high
Speaker 1: on him initially, and again I had to come back
Speaker 1: to earth with my uh with some of my analysis
Speaker 1: of him. But I see what I like about this guy.
Speaker 1: I'd love his size, I love the run after catch
Speaker 1: when they got him the ball in hand. I thought
Speaker 1: this guy was a finisher. And again, Jeff will tell
Speaker 1: you he's our whisper. He gets a lot of underneath stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, they throw him the ball and you know
Speaker 1: they run him through trash. But once he gets the ball,
Speaker 1: he could turn it up the field. And I was
Speaker 1: really impressed with that part of it. You know, these
Speaker 1: Ohio State receivers a little bit be a little hit
Speaker 1: and miss type guys. But again, this guy. If you've
Speaker 1: got a guy that's not afraid to go inside and
Speaker 1: catch the football, extend his hands and go, then you
Speaker 1: could play in this league. And I really did like
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell. Chargers on the car Are you gonna add
Speaker 1: on to that? No, no, no, no, I say Chargers
Speaker 1: on the clock now. But Tristan Hill, I can't going
Speaker 1: back to him. The Cowboys pick at fifty eight. I mean,
Speaker 1: that is your twenty twenty starting three technique for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, you would think. And that's why I like,
Speaker 1: that's where we are because the roster has been built
Speaker 1: almost impeccably, like it's been put in a situation to
Speaker 1: where you're drafting a starter for twenty twenty. And that's
Speaker 1: what I need Tristan Hill to be. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump in the time machine real quick. I
Speaker 1: just tweeted this because it reminds me so much. And
Speaker 1: they're different players. Obviously, don't scoff at me because DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence is an All Pro who just signed a huge
Speaker 1: contract extension. Doesn't this remind you of the DeMarcus Lawrence pick?
Speaker 1: And I'll say why is? And I brought this up
Speaker 1: earlier in the broadcast. You know, we the lay people,
Speaker 1: We look at the dozens and dozens of names and
Speaker 1: their safeties and YadA YadA. Weeks ago, the Cowboys said
Speaker 1: this is the guy. Yeah, we need a guy who
Speaker 1: can crumple the pocket, can beat the three technique. You
Speaker 1: want to get this pick real yeah, We'll get this pick.
Speaker 1: And then but I like where you're going here with
Speaker 1: this NFL defend super working over the year and three time.
Speaker 1: Oh he's talking over his intro. I missed coming out here.
Speaker 1: And I guarantee you guys missed this too. Oh let's
Speaker 1: go for those listening. He did a dance with the
Speaker 1: sixtieth pick in a two thousand nineteen NFL Draft Biggest
Speaker 1: Chargers select Nasir Adeliere's back Delaware. He thought he might
Speaker 1: go to the Chargers in the first round. Yeah right, well,
Speaker 1: there you go. They probably are enjoying the fact that
Speaker 1: they got to get him number sixty. So back to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys pick with Tristan Hill. So as somebody who
Speaker 1: was on the Taylor Rap bandwagon and was thinking and
Speaker 1: would go a different direction, I will say, looking back
Speaker 1: over the Tristan Hill notes, if he reaches his ceiling
Speaker 1: and if the flashes of what he does well are
Speaker 1: improved on with Rod Bernelli and he turns into what
Speaker 1: he potentially could be, he does play a more valuable
Speaker 1: position than Taylor Rep. Does. I feel like they're kind
Speaker 1: of opposites, and that Taylor Rep felt like a really
Speaker 1: say finished product that I could really really trust, and
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill felt like a guy that flashes a lot
Speaker 1: of really good things but is nowhere near the consistently
Speaker 1: finished product. So we're putting a lot here on Rod
Speaker 1: Barnelli to, hey, take this and turn it into something
Speaker 1: that when you watch his highlights, he plays that way consistently,
Speaker 1: that the pad level is right, that he's a penetrator,
Speaker 1: that he's disruptive, because those things are there for Triston Hill,
Speaker 1: and but I get more consistently. Yeah, I think you're
Speaker 1: not wrong though about there's times when he doesn't finish.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when you get get him in position.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that Dave and I watched him
Speaker 1: a little bit today. We were trying to get a
Speaker 1: little bit more focused on him because we knew they
Speaker 1: were going to pick him that were smart. We had
Speaker 1: an idea and so I told him and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: we need to look at this guy a little stronger.
Speaker 1: And you watch him. He does play with violence, He's
Speaker 1: strong with his hands, he gets up the field, Dane.
Speaker 1: Dane did a great job of describing what he's like.
Speaker 1: And but they're like you said, yet, there are times
Speaker 1: where the ball will go buy him, he'll lose track
Speaker 1: of the ball and you know he'll miss some plays,
Speaker 1: and so your assessment of him, you know, working out
Speaker 1: with Rod Marinelli leon letting those guys good to go
Speaker 1: okay on the radio side, will be right back. But
Speaker 1: finish up with the Cowboys pick and we'll take you
Speaker 1: up to our end of the coverage on one oh
Speaker 1: five three the Fan before we kick you over to
Speaker 1: radio dot com. So we'll be right back one five
Speaker 1: three the Fan. I forgot we're done at eight thirty
Speaker 1: on the fan. We got a break it, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we take breaks on that on that side of Oh,
Speaker 1: the fans not covering Pick ninety on the screen. We're
Speaker 1: talking right now kind of for you guys, but break
Speaker 1: away from all my notes will quick on my notes
Speaker 1: because I watched this with you broad us all my
Speaker 1: notes I write because sometimes it's fun to listen to
Speaker 1: some of the things you guys say. Right, But a quote,
Speaker 1: but one of the quotes I put on the notes,
Speaker 1: as you said, I've never seen a guy do the
Speaker 1: right thing so much and not get rewarded for it,
Speaker 1: and that was a great I mean about Tristan Hill.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy do more right and not
Speaker 1: get rewarded for it, because there's the finishing. But another
Speaker 1: thing about him is you'll see a play, you know,
Speaker 1: fifteen yards down field and there comes to three hundred
Speaker 1: pound train chug in to try to catch him from
Speaker 1: the backside. It was so funny that we uh this
Speaker 1: little insight the things working here at the Star. Dave
Speaker 1: and I Kennedy were watching tape of him and Bucky Buchanan.
Speaker 1: The equipment man came by. I said, Dave Goes, you
Speaker 1: got that number nine available for this guy. He's like,
Speaker 1: uh no, no, So ironically he's gonna I mean, which
Speaker 1: he can change when training camp, but he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to wear a weird number. He'll have to be in
Speaker 1: a fifty or six, gonna look funny. There's no nineties
Speaker 1: available for him. But this, to me, this is a
Speaker 1: you look at what's ahead for them contractually with Collins. Now,
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with Collins is for college, plays hurt all
Speaker 1: the time, he didn't practice, he plays games. This is
Speaker 1: a guy with him hider these under tackle US day.
Speaker 1: We saw this guy play a little one two, right,
Speaker 1: I mean that seemed like UCF was determined to play
Speaker 1: him more at the one than the three. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's probably what started some of the issues as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and how much it should cowboy Fins be worried about
Speaker 1: the quote immaturity issues? I mean, and that's an interesting
Speaker 1: question because you know we're not that far removed from
Speaker 1: the Randy Gregory pick. But are they issues on that level?
Speaker 1: I don't think they're not. That they spent so much
Speaker 1: time with this guy. You know, if you look at
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli gart yeah, good dude, Yeah, I just to
Speaker 1: go back to the point I was making. What you
Speaker 1: talked about it when DeMarcus Lawrence was doing his contract negotiation, right,
Speaker 1: what are the spots that that Rod Marinelli cares about
Speaker 1: above all else cares about? The three technique in the
Speaker 1: right end. DeMarcus Lawrence, that was their guy. They traded
Speaker 1: up to get him because he was the last guy
Speaker 1: on their board that could do that job. But he
Speaker 1: plays left in for you now, Well, and well that's
Speaker 1: a whole other conversation they'll lie to. But this the
Speaker 1: guy they targeted as their three technique. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: the last guy that they thought they could get who
Speaker 1: could make a difference. You can disagree with that, and
Speaker 1: you know, y'all, y'all have raised valid points about it,
Speaker 1: but that's their thought process. The Los Angeles Rams are
Speaker 1: on the clock. We'll take that back day. This is
Speaker 1: a pick they got from Kansas City. It's at two
Speaker 1: sixty one and the cost that makes me had the
Speaker 1: Rams picked at all in this draft. No, yeah, they
Speaker 1: keep trading, they keep coming back, they keep backing up,
Speaker 1: back and up, back and up. So we're back at
Speaker 1: the fan. Welcome back. It is the twenty nineteen NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: On one oh five three the fan, we're taking you
Speaker 1: up to Rangers pregame on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We're
Speaker 1: with you for all of rounds two and three, also
Speaker 1: on radio dot com app. The Cowboys selection in the
Speaker 1: second round at fifty eight was a guy they'd been
Speaker 1: targeting all along, Triston Hill, the defensive tackle from the
Speaker 1: University of Central Florida, to play that three technique defensive
Speaker 1: tackle here for the Dallas Cowboys. And now we are
Speaker 1: into pick number sixty one for the La Rams, and
Speaker 1: it says the pick is in. I believe this is
Speaker 1: their first pick of the entire draft. They've just been
Speaker 1: bouncing their way down, bouncing, yeah, eating turkey sandwiches and
Speaker 1: drinking all lights and pepsis and all that stuff. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: welcome to pick sixty one, where maybe the NFL told him, hey,
Speaker 1: you have to pick a player at some point. Now
Speaker 1: in the fan on the radio side, we'll be giving
Speaker 1: way to the Rangers at eight thirty. Obviously, keep viewing
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for having no Thank you guys a
Speaker 1: heck of a job with the work we do. Okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of those drafts when we're
Speaker 1: all sitting around the crawfish pot one day at my
Speaker 1: lake house and we're gonna talk about this one. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about who was on the board that day,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about uh, you know with Uh,
Speaker 1: with Rap, with Adderley, with Thornhill. You know, we're gonna
Speaker 1: see what the safety plays like for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some Now that's not to say that
Speaker 1: we won't see a safety drafted here because if we
Speaker 1: remember well thirty visits, uh, you know, we've got what
Speaker 1: if the hip flex or thing is a real thing
Speaker 1: and you get Taylor Rap at night, you know what,
Speaker 1: and and let's yeah and my my scouting buddy to
Speaker 1: my right, took a lot of heat for that and
Speaker 1: about that, and you know, he he tweeted out there
Speaker 1: about it and said, hey, this is a concern, and
Speaker 1: it's absolutely a concern. So we will We'll keep going
Speaker 1: forward here though, but I will always remember this for
Speaker 1: the guys that were on this board. Rams at the podium,
Speaker 1: Roll Football Hall of Famer Orlando Pace, Yeah, good player.
Speaker 1: With the sixty first pick and the two thousand nineteen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Los Angeles Rams select Taylor Rape. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: so Taylor Rap at nineties. What I wanted to do
Speaker 1: and say in sixty two? Who is that? The Rams
Speaker 1: made that sixty one sixty one, Well, that's a pretty
Speaker 1: good time to finally stop trading down. When he decided, hey,
Speaker 1: let's just take Taylor Rap in the sixties, so they're
Speaker 1: gonna get a rock solid player out of the University
Speaker 1: of Washington. Yeah, and this guy, he is my favorite player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's seriously, I mean, when you talk about pet cat guys,
Speaker 1: I you know, I was trying to say, don't watch
Speaker 1: the speed, don't worry about that, don't worry you know,
Speaker 1: don't worry about this, don't worry about that. Again, I
Speaker 1: thought he was to be a perfect scheme fit here
Speaker 1: with him playing down, being tough, tackling, being smart, cover
Speaker 1: all those things you know, look at you know, he
Speaker 1: could do things, he could blitz him, all kinds of
Speaker 1: really positive things with Adam Schefter. Tweeting is something I
Speaker 1: tweeted about fifteen minutes ago too. Guys. The Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: trade is going down Arizona trading Josh Rosen to Miami. Okay,
Speaker 1: to your credit, I think you said that happened, and
Speaker 1: you said that about an hour ago. Text message down
Speaker 1: to sixty two, just to taunt them to say, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't have to give you forty something. I can
Speaker 1: give you sixty something and you'll take it well. Next
Speaker 1: the next Miami selection would be at three seventy eight.
Speaker 1: If I'm missing something here, but they have twelve they
Speaker 1: have twelve picks that aren't first round picks. Here. We're
Speaker 1: gonna trade coming off here now. This is part of it. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: Cardinals are showing grin on Kevin right now. The Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals are gonna pick. It is sixty two. This is
Speaker 1: the trade is going down for Josh rose We talked
Speaker 1: about this yesterday. I throwout Miami as a possible landing spot. Yes,
Speaker 1: as Dane nailed it, I nailed some of it. We
Speaker 1: all nailed it, guys. Great job you guys, stop patting
Speaker 1: yourselves on the flat feel embarrassing here to hear this.
Speaker 1: Congrats on having a source. Yeah, so we'll see what
Speaker 1: the entire conversation shows. Right, we'll give you some sources.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals have the pick in at sixty two, they're
Speaker 1: talking somebody Tristan Hill two nights ago. Huh. You guys
Speaker 1: mocked Tristan Hill to the Cowboys two nights ago. You
Speaker 1: know what, we struck the draft show stuff, and we
Speaker 1: struggled our rear off for that reason alone. So yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely we did. We were like, oh my god, we
Speaker 1: have to pick this guy. Yeah, and I tried to
Speaker 1: go back and trade back up for Taylor Rep, who
Speaker 1: is available anyway. At the pick he goes number sixty one.
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf is still there. DK Metcalf is still there.
Speaker 1: If he's there at ninety, can I talk you into
Speaker 1: DK caf at night? I'm so in. I'm so in
Speaker 1: at night at that point. No matter how he fits,
Speaker 1: we'll try it. We'll give it a chance, all right.
Speaker 1: So we're waiting to see it is official that the
Speaker 1: Dolphins have acquired Josh Rosen from the Cardinals. The Cardinals
Speaker 1: pick is in at number sixty two. I don't know
Speaker 1: if we have full details yet on what picks are involved,
Speaker 1: but obviously sixty two is part of it. Let me,
Speaker 1: I'm doing a little housekeeping right as we speak, so
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. Let me do that for you.
Speaker 1: All righty, wait to see who this pick is going
Speaker 1: to be for the Arizona Cardinals. Okay, behind them here
Speaker 1: in the draft. I'm sorry. That was a pump fake
Speaker 1: by me that made it sound like they're at the
Speaker 1: podium when they are not. After sixty two, which is
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, we will then be back to the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs, then the New England Patriots, which will wrap
Speaker 1: up the second round, Dane, who are some of your
Speaker 1: best players available here at the end of the second round?
Speaker 1: All right starts with DK Metcalf. Surprised he's still around.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't the biggest fan of DK Metcalf,
Speaker 1: just because I was Yes, I'll talk me into that cat. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I know, I felt like I was talked into the
Speaker 1: two because after a while, you just say, okay, six
Speaker 1: three and a half and he runs, but he runs
Speaker 1: a four three like trade ahead. Those okay, those traits.
Speaker 1: You can win with those types of guys. If if
Speaker 1: all he gives you is three to five Splash plays
Speaker 1: a game, okay, that could be an I think people
Speaker 1: are worried about that though, Dane, No, I do. But again,
Speaker 1: the upside if you if you only have three or
Speaker 1: four or five Splash plays a game that could equal production.
Speaker 1: Here's the Arizona Cardinals coming up to the podium with
Speaker 1: their pick. I'll give you the trade afterwards. Hello, Nashville,
Speaker 1: the Maya mcdoppins, I've traded the sixty second pick for
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. With the sixty second pick in the
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinal select Andy
Speaker 1: Isabella wide receiver. You mask Wow, Yeah, Kyler and Andy Isabella. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You get somebody who's gonna get some separation right away. Here.
Speaker 1: Just dance around and take off running, young man. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. I'll give Dane credit for this one though, too,
Speaker 1: because a long time ago he said, ye know, we're
Speaker 1: tbout and third round guys, slot guy. He goes, no,
Speaker 1: you got to take him earlier than that. And here
Speaker 1: he is A it's a it's late in the second round,
Speaker 1: but you know it's still Andy Sabella. The particulars on
Speaker 1: the trade. Josh Rosen goes now from from the from
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals to the Miami Dolphins. The Cardinals also sent
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick UH to Miami, which is in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Okay, okay, And we've got Tristan Hill who's
Speaker 1: gonna join us right now the Cowboys draft pick right
Speaker 1: here on Dallas Cowboys dot com and one oh five
Speaker 1: three the fan as we say, good evening and welcome
Speaker 1: to the Dallas Cowboys. Congratulations Tristan. Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 1: How you doing? We are doing great. Glad to hear
Speaker 1: the excitement with you. What how much did you know
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys were interested? Because we'd sure been kicking
Speaker 1: around your name a lot the last couple of weeks. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. Uh, you know, talking to coach Marinelli and
Speaker 1: talking to UH coach Jason Garrett. You know, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I knew that it was Sementterrius and you know, me
Speaker 1: and Mary Nell about talked every day, you know, to
Speaker 1: this day. So you know, I do those sements, uh,
Speaker 1: you know the way Coach Mayonelli, the way the way
Speaker 1: that we uh you know, our relationship is as he meant.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so important to me. I called him
Speaker 1: another day actually just asked him how I was supposed
Speaker 1: to be feeling and what he was thinking everything else,
Speaker 1: you know. So I mean with everything you just said, Tristan,
Speaker 1: congratify the way, you know, but thank you. It's a
Speaker 1: long way to pick fifty eight. You obviously knew there
Speaker 1: was a lot of interest. What have these last two
Speaker 1: hours been like while you wait to see you know,
Speaker 1: if that was going to come to pass right? Um,
Speaker 1: you know I thought it would come to I thought
Speaker 1: it was gonna work out. You know, I had that
Speaker 1: gut feeling in my heart. Um, you know, I just
Speaker 1: doing it. It was gonna work out and and everything,
Speaker 1: you know, leave it up to God and and leave
Speaker 1: it up to you know. I knew. I knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna go the right way that it should have went. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to be here. I'm excited at the
Speaker 1: at the two hours are up, you know, I'm excited
Speaker 1: about everything. I don't really know how to put it
Speaker 1: in words. You know, well, Tristan, I was gonna ask
Speaker 1: you though, when the first time that you got a
Speaker 1: chance to meet Ryan Maranelli, you were you know, he's
Speaker 1: probably coming down there to work ye out. What was
Speaker 1: your experience slightly if you talked about you kind of
Speaker 1: developed a little bit of a friendship with him. But
Speaker 1: he puts you through a pretty good workout. I bed
Speaker 1: down there to get an idea what kind of player
Speaker 1: you are, wasn't he Oh? Yes, yes, sir. He made
Speaker 1: sure that he was getting everything up. You know. We
Speaker 1: turned about the night before and he told me he
Speaker 1: was gonna make you got everything he was gonna do. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, and I went and did it some the
Speaker 1: best amounting and he told me, he said, listen, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be fine as long as you you know, you
Speaker 1: do this, you do that, and you know you go
Speaker 1: as hard as you can. That's what you know, That's
Speaker 1: what I prided myself on, and that's what he prided
Speaker 1: his players on. Um. You know, that's what I went
Speaker 1: and did, and I feel like I knocked out the
Speaker 1: park um and just you know, just having him down
Speaker 1: there a legend, you know, light man newly come down man,
Speaker 1: you know, working me out much less talking, you know,
Speaker 1: seeing it come to life. Tristan, what's the ideal defensive
Speaker 1: position for you? What's the position? Have you had your choice?
Speaker 1: What would you want to play there? On the defensive line?
Speaker 1: You know anything I feel like? Okay, all over the
Speaker 1: defensive line. Um, you know, three technique, one technique out
Speaker 1: on the end next to Lawrence, you know those those
Speaker 1: guys and coach himself. Um, you know, I know that
Speaker 1: I have no no, no choice about to succeed in
Speaker 1: this defense. And you know what, no matter what position
Speaker 1: I'm at. Tristan, congratulations once again and we look forward
Speaker 1: to seeing the year. Welcome to Dallas Cowboys. Yes, thank you,
Speaker 1: proud to be here. Go Cowboys. All right, there you go?
Speaker 1: Was the latest Dallas Cowboy Tristan Hill. Yeah. And as
Speaker 1: us as we were visiting with Tristan, there another safety
Speaker 1: went off the board. Uh, we've the last I Nsieur
Speaker 1: Adderley went to the Chargers, Taylor Rapp went to the Rams.
Speaker 1: There goes one and one. Thornhill goes to the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Well, we had a pretty good feeling for
Speaker 1: the players who were going to go in this range.
Speaker 1: Didn't we yea New England. New England has made a trade.
Speaker 1: Seattle is now on the clock. I'll give you the
Speaker 1: particulars of the Seattle trade if I can trade it up. Yeah, Seattle,
Speaker 1: trade it up. Okay, New England ships sixty four to
Speaker 1: Seattle in turn. Seventy seven now belongs to New England,
Speaker 1: and then also one eighteen. So seventy seven and one
Speaker 1: eighteen liked enough to do such a big jump are
Speaker 1: now involved with the New England Patriots there, but I
Speaker 1: can't so the Cowboys. We kind of all had an
Speaker 1: idea once the Cowboys made their selection that people kind
Speaker 1: of wised up and said, wait a minute, there's too
Speaker 1: much value on the top of that board at safeties.
Speaker 1: Those were all safeties other than Thornhill. I had him
Speaker 1: in the third round. With the other safeties, I had
Speaker 1: second round grades on those guys. So people kind of
Speaker 1: saw a little value there and then said, hey, we
Speaker 1: gotta make this happen. And that's the group of players
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the fun of the draft,
Speaker 1: is the group of players that we've been debating for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. For the Cowboys, they kind of
Speaker 1: all just spent fifty eight to sixty two sixty three.
Speaker 1: Not only that, but it happens every year. Derwin James
Speaker 1: and Layton Vanderesh last year. We'll be hearing about it.
Speaker 1: We'll be hearing about it every time Taylor Rapp, Wan Thornhill,
Speaker 1: Adderley or any of those other guys does something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Taylor Rapp, when Tristan Hill does something? For that, howboys
Speaker 1: do play the Rams. So we'll see Taylor Rapp with
Speaker 1: at some point in time this year. Who we'll we'll
Speaker 1: only time's gonna tell. But you know, I'm getting tweets
Speaker 1: from people you know, well, you passed up on a
Speaker 1: starting safety for a rotational tackle. Yeah, do you think
Speaker 1: that's the case. We had an argument about that weeks
Speaker 1: before the draft. Hill plays a more important position if
Speaker 1: he turns, Yeah, he plays a more valuable position. Do
Speaker 1: you think Taylor Rapp or one Thornhill is a starting
Speaker 1: safety against New York on September whatever eighth. I'd remind
Speaker 1: you the fact that I remind you the fact that
Speaker 1: they didn't get Layton Vanderish in the line up until
Speaker 1: like we five coaches love to be by. That's why
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I love to start the entrention
Speaker 1: much as I love Taylor the Rap, as much as
Speaker 1: I love Nasir Adderley and those guys that again, they
Speaker 1: don't care about me, They don't care about Brian brought us.
Speaker 1: You know, we're just trying to do our jobs here
Speaker 1: talking about these players, you know, and I'm hope I'm right.
Speaker 1: I'm hope I'm right about those players. But I'm hope
Speaker 1: I'm also right about Tristan Hill. You know, we talked
Speaker 1: about a gayo. Rod Marinelli went in there and he
Speaker 1: felt like though this was important to you know, this
Speaker 1: is important to the defense, and it's important to what
Speaker 1: they're trying to do at the undertackle in the middle
Speaker 1: part of that defense. You remember what happened to them
Speaker 1: last year and the last part of that season. That
Speaker 1: Indianapolis game refreshed you a little bit right there. How
Speaker 1: about that? How about the game against the Rams. You know,
Speaker 1: I know the human Law was injured during the time,
Speaker 1: but you know they're adding bodies inside. I like, you know,
Speaker 1: Christian Covington, who they added from the Texans, you know,
Speaker 1: in the free agency and stuff like that. So maybe
Speaker 1: they're going to build them a nice little rotation better
Speaker 1: than what they had with with Reid and Ross and
Speaker 1: guys like that that last year to a point, got
Speaker 1: it done, but not nearly good enough again, So Seattle
Speaker 1: on the clock for the final pick in the second round,
Speaker 1: the Josh Rosen trade done. That's the other I think,
Speaker 1: I think, right, yes, you did a fifth. So it's
Speaker 1: sixty two of Arizona ended up taking Andy Isabella and
Speaker 1: in a twenty twenty fifth. Looks like Seattle's on the
Speaker 1: podium right now, let's go see them. The New England
Speaker 1: Patriots have traded the sixty fourth pick to the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: With the sixty fourth pick in the twenty nineteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks select DK dk Metcalf doesn't quite sneak
Speaker 1: to the third round to the second Seattle will go
Speaker 1: get a value pick on you all the way all
Speaker 1: the way to the end of the second and had
Speaker 1: his name mispronounced on them. And I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: the mispronounced DK Russell Wilson is not afraid to push
Speaker 1: the ball down to I'm gonna say, and he throws
Speaker 1: it well for the same reason that Pat Mahomes would
Speaker 1: have been a good fit for him. You mean, a
Speaker 1: guy that's just gonna run in circles in the pocket
Speaker 1: for eighteen seconds and then throw a bomb that sounds
Speaker 1: like a winning combination. It works. I mean, he can
Speaker 1: get vertical, there's no question about that. Without speed and
Speaker 1: that power, we'll see how he I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: like you just he'll never be able to develop as
Speaker 1: a route runner. You know, we'll see how he does
Speaker 1: throughout the years. But his catch radius with that length, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that that could be a difference maker. And
Speaker 1: again he's not going to be a high volume target.
Speaker 1: But even if you only have five splash plays a game,
Speaker 1: that can make an impact for your football team. So
Speaker 1: just tremendous value here for the Seahawks. I do feel
Speaker 1: like when you talk about him as a route runner,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he can develop to whatever percentage or
Speaker 1: however much you think he could, But I also think
Speaker 1: like when Bez Bryant was here, Dez was never going
Speaker 1: to be a great route runner, right, some guys are
Speaker 1: just like they're powerful straight ahead runners, where the agility
Speaker 1: part you can't just magically make it appear. So for
Speaker 1: the most part, he's probably gonna have to win as
Speaker 1: a vertical and a stop guy. But I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: Here's why. I kind of here's why, like DK Metcalf
Speaker 1: more than just run down the field guy, because I
Speaker 1: also think watched him just run stop routes. Guys can
Speaker 1: try to sit on a stop route. Sure, he drops
Speaker 1: a hammer into your chest and you move five year
Speaker 1: Like he can. He can create room for himself with power.
Speaker 1: Interesting that Seattle traded up something they normally don't do.
Speaker 1: They normally kind of trade back, but they trade up
Speaker 1: to get in front of Arizona at pick sixty five, Arizona,
Speaker 1: who just took Andy Isabella Kyler Murray, Andy Isabella, DK
Speaker 1: Metcalf would have been crazy too, but Arizona now to
Speaker 1: kick off the third round. Now, Arizona taking Kyler, taking
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy the cornerback from Washington, Zach Allen right there,
Speaker 1: and then Andy Isabella earlier. Pittsburgh on the clock. Now
Speaker 1: they traded up to ten to get Devin Bush. So
Speaker 1: that's all they've done. Dane Bruger, by the way, called
Speaker 1: that one. I thought that was a good he said, Hey,
Speaker 1: as soon as that trade happened, he knew exactly where
Speaker 1: the h the Pittsburgh Steelers would go in there. Um,
Speaker 1: what do you think you're Dane? You get any idea, anyone?
Speaker 1: You gotta put the call in. Now. What's problem? Because
Speaker 1: as soon as they traded up last night, I did
Speaker 1: the same thing. I was like Pittsburgh to ten. Oh
Speaker 1: they never replaced Shazier. That's Devin Bush. So now they're
Speaker 1: on the clock for the second time. It's time to
Speaker 1: no stradomisis thing? Okay? Well what h I got? What
Speaker 1: do the Steelers do on the second day of the draft?
Speaker 1: They pick receivers? Right? Oh, logical? Here can Harmon? Let's
Speaker 1: look at the board wide receivers that are available, Redley Harmon,
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurd, Kim Butler, your boy, Deonta John a really
Speaker 1: good pick. Har McLain Slaton. That's the problem. Trying to
Speaker 1: pick one receiver right now, to me would be impossible.
Speaker 1: Like for me, I can do it for my board,
Speaker 1: But to get a consensus group of people, I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna be pretty tough. Now, when this team fumbled
Speaker 1: and drafted already Burns, I would like to see them
Speaker 1: get some redemption. Here Justin Lane is still on the board.
Speaker 1: That's I was literally, why is Justin Lane still here
Speaker 1: in the third round. Anybody, Okay, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: Justin Lane's still on the board. And if you do,
Speaker 1: you're a part of the Lane family. Turned down your
Speaker 1: radio because if you run an inside breaking route, you're
Speaker 1: wide open. Well, Justin Lane's really good if you're going
Speaker 1: outside release or vertical on him. But I swear every
Speaker 1: inside breaking route he didn't cover it. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's part of the defense, but that was
Speaker 1: a hole in that game. Now, Dane said, wide receiver.
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about those tight ends at fifty
Speaker 1: eight as well. Uh, they could use some tight end.
Speaker 1: I know they have Jesse James. They don't have a
Speaker 1: dynamic tight end. They just kind of have get the
Speaker 1: job done. Guys. Grab you some Sternberger or some knocks
Speaker 1: and get down the field on people. I think that'd
Speaker 1: be fun. Or Kale Warring h get a little small
Speaker 1: school action. So going down the wide receivers, you said
Speaker 1: you want that water polo goalie, Huh, that water polo
Speaker 1: goal is pretty good football players too much. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like it. Oh, look, they've already put the We've gone
Speaker 1: back to the TV side of it here. They love
Speaker 1: following Josh Rosen's Instagram. Yeah, he said let's go baby,
Speaker 1: and he's photoshopped into a Dolphins uniform. For him. Man,
Speaker 1: it's probably first time he's been in a good moods.
Speaker 1: It's like February tenth worth a late to the latest
Speaker 1: two and a fifth round pick, Which I'm telling you
Speaker 1: right now, if the Dolphins miss on this and Rosen
Speaker 1: is never a good NFL quarterback, they should still make
Speaker 1: that trade ten times. On course, traded a late too
Speaker 1: and nothing every shot at a franchise quarterback every spring
Speaker 1: lottery pick. That's it. Daniel Jones went sixth overall. Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen just went sixty second, and that just happened. Like
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen has such a better chance of having a
Speaker 1: good career. I agree, totally agree. That's I think that's
Speaker 1: Miami was the last team that was in search of
Speaker 1: their guy and they got him for nothing. They got
Speaker 1: him from peanuts. That's that's a great job by them,
Speaker 1: whether it works or not to me for a teenage
Speaker 1: tanking though, they got a quarterback that was drafted tenth overall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but based on what he did last year, he can
Speaker 1: help you tank. Well. Yeah, But I'm just saying, though,
Speaker 1: if you look at if you look at roster, if
Speaker 1: you yeah, if you maybe I trust What if he
Speaker 1: gets beat out by fat Fitzpatrick. I don't think he
Speaker 1: gets beat out by Fitzpatrick. You gotta play this guy,
Speaker 1: don't you. I mean, let Fitzpatrick try and help him.
Speaker 1: But Steelers are on the clock and they're actually at
Speaker 1: the podium. Here we go, let's go, let's go all right,
Speaker 1: Quiet down, quiet down, quiet down? Oh boy? What the
Speaker 1: sixty six pick in the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers select Deonte Johnson, wide receiver. Hey, the
Speaker 1: Steelers can scout good Steelers can scout receivers. I will
Speaker 1: say this, Dame Burugo had an idea about drafting receivers though.
Speaker 1: I mean they that's what they do. On Day two.
Speaker 1: They James Washington, jud Schuster, go all the way back
Speaker 1: to Emmanuel Sanders. They find these guys and they turn
Speaker 1: out to be Sometimes sometimes you got to check the mac.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to check the mac player. Deonte Johnson was.
Speaker 1: He wasn't my number one receiver. He was my favorite
Speaker 1: receiver in this draft because I knew I liked him
Speaker 1: a lot more than most people did. But I like
Speaker 1: him as a return man, and I really like the
Speaker 1: way that he runs routes. Now in most NFL offenses,
Speaker 1: well you have to tighten up the way he runs routes,
Speaker 1: probably because he goes a little creative on you have
Speaker 1: to get his separation. But the dude gets separation, and
Speaker 1: I think he can play, and I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good NFL player. So I love that pick. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I want to go back to Rosen real quick,
Speaker 1: because you said, well I thought they were taken. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't have to anymore. Yeah, now you throw Rosen
Speaker 1: out there, and if he shows you that he can play, great.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't show you that he can play, and
Speaker 1: the rest of that roster is not that good, then
Speaker 1: you're still bad and you can go get a guy.
Speaker 1: And we oh darn, we gave up a late two.
Speaker 1: Let's go pick our quarterback. I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a losing situation there. They'd obviously can play, but
Speaker 1: we'll see and they'll be okay either either way. You
Speaker 1: guys want to let's go to the forty nine ers. Oh,
Speaker 1: look who it is at the podium, Ta Deonte Johnson was.
Speaker 1: He wasn't my number one receiver. He was my favorite
Speaker 1: receiver in this draft because I knew I liked him
Speaker 1: a lot more than most people did. But I like
Speaker 1: him as a return man, and I really like the
Speaker 1: way that he runs routes. Now in most NFL offenses,
Speaker 1: well you have to tighten up the way he runs routes,
Speaker 1: probably because he goes a little creative on you have
Speaker 1: to get his separation. But the dude gets separation, and
Speaker 1: I think he can play, and I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good NFL player. So I love that pick. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I want to go back to Rosen real quick
Speaker 1: because you said, well I thought they were taken. Well,
Speaker 1: they don't have to anymore. Yeah, Now you throw Rosen
Speaker 1: out there, and if he shows you that he can play, great.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't show you that he can play, and
Speaker 1: the rest of that roster is not that good, then
Speaker 1: you're still bad and you can go get a guy
Speaker 1: and we, oh darn, we gave up late two. Let's
Speaker 1: go pick our quarterback. I don't I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a losing situation there. They'd obviously can play, but we'll
Speaker 1: see and they'll be okay. Either either way you guys
Speaker 1: want to let's go to the forty nine ers. Oh,
Speaker 1: look who it is at the podium tea Hall of Favor,
Speaker 1: nine Ers Man of the Year and Pro Football Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. He won Man of the Years. He didn't
Speaker 1: say NFL Man of the Year. Day. Hey, you guys
Speaker 1: gotta get your popcorn ready. We're at the sixty seventh
Speaker 1: pick and the twenty nineteen NFL drought. The San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers select Zalen Hurd, wide receiver. How about
Speaker 1: that Baylor former Tennessee volunteer running back. I will tell
Speaker 1: you my first Jalen Hurd memory is when I was
Speaker 1: watching Tennessee play and he was there. I was I
Speaker 1: was texting my Tennessee friends, and I was like, why
Speaker 1: is the inferior running back keep getting the ball that Kamara?
Speaker 1: Dude's got juice. But wide receiver, he put together some
Speaker 1: pretty dark good type that hurts man. That's a that's
Speaker 1: a that's a pet cat right there. Yeah, man, Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurd was really fun. Jalen Hurd draft or sorry, sorry Katy,
Speaker 1: The Niners drafted both of my favorite receivers. We get
Speaker 1: to a point with him, though, like, Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: watch Jalen Hurd, the Baylor wide receiver, and I have
Speaker 1: this negative connotation with Baylor wide receivers, and watch him
Speaker 1: and you know the backstory being running back and you go, whoa, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: look at him. Yeah. Look if they catch with the
Speaker 1: hands over the middle, play not to take a hit
Speaker 1: by a linebacker, Look at this guy. Yeah, man, I
Speaker 1: just that's a pretty good spot. Man. Have fun. San
Speaker 1: Francisco need to help them out with wide receivers too.
Speaker 1: So I really like that pick, Jeff. They got some
Speaker 1: secret audio they let's get it. So Tristan Hill, we
Speaker 1: saw them in the war room. We saw them on
Speaker 1: the phone with Tristan Hill when they made the pick.
Speaker 1: And of course on Dallas Cowboys dot com and on
Speaker 1: one oh five three the Fan, we always bring that
Speaker 1: right to you. Here is Tristan Hill finding out he's
Speaker 1: a Dallas cowboy. Tristan Hill play with the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Got somebody, got somebody who wants to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Hey man, how are you doing good for you? Hey man?
Speaker 1: You did a hell of a job in that room
Speaker 1: with Ride. I was highly impressed. Hold on, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: catch you over to coach Garrett, gonna get on with you.
Speaker 1: Just say, how you doing, man, We're doing fantastic. We've
Speaker 1: been waiting a long time. Fifty seven picks. So excited
Speaker 1: you're still up on that board. It's so excited. I
Speaker 1: can't even hear you so much. Let's do it, let's
Speaker 1: do let's go. Okay, here's coach Marinelli. Well do you think,
Speaker 1: big guy, do you have your contract? They're ready to
Speaker 1: sign it. Let's do it. I'm ready to go. Here's
Speaker 1: mister Jones. Hey Tristing. Congratulations, congratulations, buddy, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Well, I'm glad just call you. Got a
Speaker 1: lot of support in this room. I ready to go. Okay,
Speaker 1: well that's good. Well come Roger, ready for you. Okay, man, congratulations, Okay, great, okay,
Speaker 1: trust thank you buddy. All right, there's a secret. It
Speaker 1: sounds like it was a lot of fun in his house.
Speaker 1: It sounds like they're having a good time. So Miller
Speaker 1: White's going off of that house right now. That is awesome.
Speaker 1: By the way, a pick that just happened in this draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the New York Jets either picked a guy that's not
Speaker 1: gonna make it. Or they got one of the seals
Speaker 1: of the draft. We'll find out. But is it you say,
Speaker 1: Jachi Jachai Polite from Florida is going to the New
Speaker 1: York Jets in the third round, And tell me if
Speaker 1: you think I'm exaggerating, I would say he has top
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen tape in this draft. I think that's
Speaker 1: exactly right. Yeah, he's a quarterback assassin. And listen, if
Speaker 1: he buys in and reaches his potential, stays in shape himself,
Speaker 1: listens to the coaching. I mean, this guy he has
Speaker 1: the tape to be an impact player. And so here
Speaker 1: in the third round, this is your classic Boom or
Speaker 1: Bus pick. So let's see how that one plays out
Speaker 1: for him. Right now at Jacksonville number sixty nine, they
Speaker 1: are on the clock here in the third round. What's
Speaker 1: Jacksonville done so far? Does somebody have the things that
Speaker 1: they may still be looking at here? Maybe you kind
Speaker 1: of got Jacksonville in front of you there or some
Speaker 1: stuff I can for you right here too as well.
Speaker 1: Wide receiver, tight end, O line, and end. Now, obviously
Speaker 1: they drafted Josh Allen and uh scooped up Jawan Taylor,
Speaker 1: so probably throw those linemen out of there. Needed wide receiver,
Speaker 1: maybe a tight end. Yeah, that's the wide receivers and
Speaker 1: tight ends on the board. Right. That's kind of like
Speaker 1: that sweet spot right now. This is a really good
Speaker 1: for both. The third round is a fun route, fun
Speaker 1: time in the draft. I mean, this is this is
Speaker 1: where you can really really help your team here. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying, all right, you know I feel smart.
Speaker 1: Jim Naggy, that Senior Bowl director. Just wait on that
Speaker 1: run on tight ends? There you go, there you go.
Speaker 1: Uh could this be a situation. Let's the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: all the way down at ninety. I know we got
Speaker 1: a long long way to go to get to them.
Speaker 1: You guys, we've kind of kind of run ideas out
Speaker 1: there about running backs. Is this like we keep talking
Speaker 1: about the cornerback? Could that be? I keep every time
Speaker 1: I have talked about cornerback, I said the word sneaky
Speaker 1: with it. Is this we get to ninety? Could they
Speaker 1: be holding on a cornerback at this uh this point
Speaker 1: in time, you know, and not a running back. Maybe
Speaker 1: they're looking for a running back in Day three since
Speaker 1: they're a cornerback and Justin Lane's still there. But is
Speaker 1: there a cornerback that they shown interest in that fits
Speaker 1: this rain, didn't you guys say, Isaiah Johnson is a
Speaker 1: guy that they showed a lot of interest in in Houston.
Speaker 1: Johnson's raw, but you're talking about that size, that length,
Speaker 1: and that athleticism and something to kind of mold and
Speaker 1: there were ideal you wouldn't need him to play much.
Speaker 1: You're gonna ready to play next year. You're in good shape.
Speaker 1: They're gonna try like help yard, you know, one of
Speaker 1: his big range cornerbacks. If I had to guess Chauncey Gardner,
Speaker 1: Johnson's still there. I actually so I went through, you know,
Speaker 1: of the thirty visitors that we know, here, the Jaguar
Speaker 1: comes up. Yeah, let's go with the Jaguar shore. I'll
Speaker 1: see what a select here Jaguars at the podium with
Speaker 1: the sixty nine selection and the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars select Josh Oliver tight end San Jose State.
Speaker 1: Here they go really good sight end prospects, top senior
Speaker 1: tight end in this draft. It's a little surprise he
Speaker 1: goes ahead of wearing Knox Sternberger. But he's a he's
Speaker 1: a really good player. We're still left with a list
Speaker 1: of really good tight ends. I don't know where the
Speaker 1: Georgia guys gonna go when you run a four nine forty.
Speaker 1: But he's a good player. Sternberger, Warring Knox, There's there's
Speaker 1: some of these teams. These teams are seeing some of
Speaker 1: these players totally different than I am. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: You know at Sternberger and you mentioned all these guys
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting you know, even I understand why Raymonds,
Speaker 1: Cayton Smith, I mean I had a ton of them
Speaker 1: before I had Oliver coming off this point, Josh Oliver,
Speaker 1: the second cousin of former Darren Oliver. Yep, okay, that's right,
Speaker 1: a lot of athletes in his family. UM. I had
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to him and San Jose's head coach.
Speaker 1: They they literally had plays in the Plague book called
Speaker 1: fts plays feed the stud plays designed specifically to get
Speaker 1: him the football because he was the best player on
Speaker 1: their team. Wasn't even close. He thirty eight chair resulted
Speaker 1: in a first down or touchdown. He can be a
Speaker 1: big play target as a receiver down the field, especially
Speaker 1: down the scene. If we're looking you know again, Brian,
Speaker 1: to your point, we're ways away from ninety. But if
Speaker 1: you're looking at players the Cowboys have shown interest in
Speaker 1: that are still there. Damien Harris, the running back out
Speaker 1: of Obama, Christian Miller, the Queen Obama, Johncy Gardner, Johnson
Speaker 1: the Florida of dB Dawson Knox, the old Miss tight end,
Speaker 1: Jay Sternberger, and m tight end. I don't mate, which
Speaker 1: this doesn't sound like a pick at ninety, but with
Speaker 1: the way these guys have gone these two days, who
Speaker 1: the hell knows? Kry Willis the safety out of Michigan
Speaker 1: State and Will Harris Boston College safety. So anybody's guess
Speaker 1: what it looks like in twenty more picks, but they
Speaker 1: definitely have plenty of options. So the Rams up at
Speaker 1: seventy now they they've just picked for the first time
Speaker 1: a little bit ago. Yeah it took that. They took
Speaker 1: our safety, Rap Taylor, Rap, it took Rap. Yeah. Now
Speaker 1: did they trade for this pick? This was a Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay pick. This was a Tampa Bay pick. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that was done. So, uh, they've got this again.
Speaker 1: We're we're in the third round five minutes per uh
Speaker 1: selection here, so we're kind of moving along. Okay, how
Speaker 1: long are the picks tomorrow? Five minutes? There's still five minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we hope there were two minutes. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, like, how much faster can it go? I
Speaker 1: feel like we're doing a pick every forty five seconds. Well,
Speaker 1: if you're kind of listening with us right now, we're watching,
Speaker 1: it looks like they're doing a military salute here with
Speaker 1: this pick. So members of the armed forces are on
Speaker 1: the stage shaking hands with the commissioner right now. It's
Speaker 1: got to be a great thrill for them to be
Speaker 1: up there be a part of this. The crowd reacting
Speaker 1: very kindly to our servicemen and women who were up
Speaker 1: on the stage. So again, the Rams, they kept trading back.
Speaker 1: It's a good football team. We saw that with their
Speaker 1: own eyes. Uh last season. I think it always had
Speaker 1: a talented roster. I think the coach that can match
Speaker 1: the style of the rosters. So uh. And then again
Speaker 1: they've added Taylor Rap to that mix. There. It feels
Speaker 1: like defense would be the way they would go unless
Speaker 1: they wanted to help out. They have a little spot
Speaker 1: on their interior offensive line. They could go. I love
Speaker 1: Drew Semia and I feel like I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: that you know, you could see a you know, somewhere
Speaker 1: for him to go. But also I'm looking at you know,
Speaker 1: defense they lost uh uh Sue, you know they lost him.
Speaker 1: Draymond Jones. Maybe he's a free agent. I mean, Draymond
Speaker 1: Jones could be in the mixture right there. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they love to have another six player or linebacker
Speaker 1: Hills will Oh, here's where I get to have a
Speaker 1: little fun with you guys. Let's snead he's an SEC guy.
Speaker 1: Oh lord, okay, sec. You got mac Wilson. Wilson, remember
Speaker 1: how under size And here's the Rams selection. Mack Wilson's
Speaker 1: the best plays on the board for me. Jackie Slater,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he's big. But here we go. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the podium. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have traded
Speaker 1: the seventieth peak to the Los Angeles Rams, and with
Speaker 1: the seventieth peak in the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams the reigning NFC champions like Darrell Henderson
Speaker 1: running back from Memphis. Oh good, hey, I think they're
Speaker 1: worried about Todd Gurley. Yeah, a little bit. That is
Speaker 1: a which we're sitting here talking about the Cowboys spinning
Speaker 1: too high on her running back. Man, that just might
Speaker 1: gave you a little example what the Cowboys might need
Speaker 1: to do fourth round. You can get your what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say that what the Cowboys need to do? Or?
Speaker 1: Am I scared? Sis? If I'm a Rams fan, you
Speaker 1: are scared? Sis? You know it? Okay, Dave, let me
Speaker 1: tell you about the trades. Could you like to kind
Speaker 1: of handle this? The Rams for this pick? Uh, they
Speaker 1: they send this now goes ninety four, goes to Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: and also uh, pick ninety nine goes to Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: and then also then Tampa Bay in fact sends the
Speaker 1: seventieth overall pick. So ninety four and ninety ninety four
Speaker 1: ninety nine the Rams now belong to the Buccaneers seventy
Speaker 1: and the pick was made. The Rams went two yeah,
Speaker 1: to get a running back. Exactly what's wrong with Todd Gurley? No,
Speaker 1: that's what gay T was just tuck. What is wrong
Speaker 1: with Todd Gurley? It is the only that is the
Speaker 1: only plausible explanation for why you would do that. Well,
Speaker 1: here we go. We got the Denver Broncos pick seventy one,
Speaker 1: had a pick before them, but they exercised it in
Speaker 1: the supplemental draft. So Giants gets passed by. Now this
Speaker 1: is Denver, it's like Carl Mecklenburg picking for the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Let's go the podium draft. The Denver Broncos select Draymond Jones,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle Ohio star. Raymond Jones kind of a stand up, tall,
Speaker 1: get pushed back type of guy. No, just kidding, Jermond Jones.
Speaker 1: You're not haters, No, you're not. I just I think
Speaker 1: Draymond Jones is a guy who you've got a lot
Speaker 1: of projection in right. He is a huge hit and
Speaker 1: miss right here. This is a he's a mustable guy.
Speaker 1: But if it works out the athletic you know, traits
Speaker 1: are incredible there. Just you're at pick seventy one, are
Speaker 1: you not? Yeah, that sounds like a fantastic place to
Speaker 1: take Draymond Jones. Agree, talent ability. I wanted nothing to
Speaker 1: do with him at fifty eighth. Th Oh, that's fine.
Speaker 1: We're we're half around away from fifty eight. At this point,
Speaker 1: he was fifty six on live board. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that six. If he wins off
Speaker 1: the snap, I'm sure he will be I'll be wrong.
Speaker 1: You have to protect him a little bit. Have to
Speaker 1: protect him. Well, okay, what what the best trade about him? Dane?
Speaker 1: His quickness, he could penetrate gaps and once he does, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, good luck slowing him down because he can
Speaker 1: create that backfield disruption. It wasn't at the tester we
Speaker 1: thought he and that was kind of funny. It was
Speaker 1: And he didn't retest at the pro day, which kind
Speaker 1: of told you something right there. You do worry about
Speaker 1: him in the run game, but again as a one
Speaker 1: gap penetrator. Um kind of what the Cowboys seeing in
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill. Uh, you know, he's a guy that could
Speaker 1: be disruptive. Uh. Chefter three minutes ago reporting that Doug
Speaker 1: Baldwin might be unable to play again because of the
Speaker 1: multiple injuries that he's had, makes sense that the Seahawks
Speaker 1: would select dk Metcalff where they did at sixty four,
Speaker 1: the final pick of the second round. That really sucks
Speaker 1: because he's one of my favorite players. He was a
Speaker 1: good player as a guy that I just for years
Speaker 1: never wanted to give him enough credit to That's part
Speaker 1: of what made him one of my favorites, is like
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to write him off. He just on paper,
Speaker 1: undrafted guy balls out for six seven years. Bengals on
Speaker 1: the clock Jonah Williams in the first round. They took
Speaker 1: Drew Sample, the tight end from Washington in round two.
Speaker 1: Looking at the Bengals needs, I know they could use
Speaker 1: more offensive line help. I know that's something and I
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna be probably pounding the table for Drew
Speaker 1: Samia for every team I don't have a problem with.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with Drew Samia at all.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of offensive line guys, Joga McGovern, Samia,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, ye Deeter, who I like probably more than
Speaker 1: everyone else. Jordan's an Ohio State kid, Hio State kid. Yeah.
Speaker 1: For the Bengals are always one of those teams. It's
Speaker 1: a history. I always say this every year. It's like
Speaker 1: a broken record players. If they're looking for an interior linement,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised they took the Jordan kid, the
Speaker 1: center guard right Dane from from Ohio State, something like that.
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of throwing out out out there. Any
Speaker 1: reason for them to take one of these quarterbacks, any
Speaker 1: reason to take will Greer or Finley one of those guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, every man, a team that kind of
Speaker 1: struggle with quarterback right at the point, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: take Dayne Haskins in the first round, yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I was going to say, which I always feel fair enough,
Speaker 1: I feel dumb saying that. I hope they take Greer
Speaker 1: right now. The Cowboys took Dak Prescott and he turned
Speaker 1: into Dak Prescott. So it is possible. But if you're
Speaker 1: not willing to really pony up and spend a real resource,
Speaker 1: I say go go later in the third round, now
Speaker 1: to day three, then maybe you throw a pick at
Speaker 1: jartstid him or you know. But in the third round,
Speaker 1: like draft a guy who can help the quarterback that
Speaker 1: you clearly gave a vote of confidence to. My other
Speaker 1: Bengals needs outside of offensive line, it goes to defense
Speaker 1: and it goes to linebacker. I still have Mac Wilson
Speaker 1: on the board. I stubve Germaine Pratt on the board's linebackers.
Speaker 1: That's where I go from there after offensive line. So um,
Speaker 1: I admit, man, the Bengals who for years were kind
Speaker 1: of like okay, on the cusp of being something, and
Speaker 1: then over the last five years have become just a
Speaker 1: really boring team, you know, up there with the Dolphins
Speaker 1: of teams that just aren't that exciting anymore. And they
Speaker 1: have some good player a J. Green, Joe Mixon. I mean,
Speaker 1: they have some playmakers there. But yeah, Andy Dalton, I
Speaker 1: think they're stuck in neutral with him as quarterback. And
Speaker 1: that's why I thought Dwayne Askins sitting there at eleven
Speaker 1: made a lot of sense for them, but they decided
Speaker 1: to stick with you know, they have a first year
Speaker 1: head coach, so they're not ready to just a revamp
Speaker 1: the offense right away. They're gonna letet wet and see
Speaker 1: what happens this year. And Andy Dalton's getting ready to
Speaker 1: be a free agent, and so they've kind of tabled
Speaker 1: free agent or extension talks for them time being. But
Speaker 1: that's something that we have to watch for in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Might be time to move on soon. And it sure
Speaker 1: felt like that that hiring of Zach Taylor, it sure
Speaker 1: felt like that was just kind of the last ditch
Speaker 1: effort to get someone who might have a John mc connection. Like,
Speaker 1: like you just said, I let the head coach get
Speaker 1: his feet wet man. We're in the NFL. There's thirty
Speaker 1: two teams. I'm not in the business of letting my
Speaker 1: coach get his feet wet. I want to go get
Speaker 1: a guy who knows what he's doing, or at least
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying Zack doesn't, But if if I'm
Speaker 1: hiring him to be my head coach, then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have him have a little bit of saying what he's doing.
Speaker 1: That's why I liked that the Cardinals then let him
Speaker 1: have a little soap by the Groces. But well, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna hire the guy and let him have fun, Oh,
Speaker 1: the Bengals pick is up now? Because I'm on a
Speaker 1: a Bengals soap box, so weird and we're seventy second
Speaker 1: pick in the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengals select. To me, that's the Bengals. I know, it's
Speaker 1: the Bengals. I know. God, I love you Cincinnati. What
Speaker 1: you say, is he from Ohio? No? Is he like?
Speaker 1: He's my favorite team to draft. They knew exactly who
Speaker 1: I wanted to take. That's your guy. Your guys, right,
Speaker 1: he's not like anything, he's not. He's okay, you'll like him,
Speaker 1: you'll like him. Let me, let me talk. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you a little bit about like Dave's gonna meet him. Yeah, you'll,
Speaker 1: you'll as he's a friendly guy. He'll he'll maybe bump
Speaker 1: into him somewhere down the road. Here. Let me give
Speaker 1: you a little insight. Tell me about this guy. Love Pratt,
Speaker 1: I do love Pratt. My gosh, you guys are fools
Speaker 1: for nothing. This is physically a really good looking player.
Speaker 1: He's long, he's range, he plays with some pop. He's
Speaker 1: a wrap up tackle. He uses link to get rid
Speaker 1: of some blockers. He's not afraid to throw his body
Speaker 1: around and redirect in a hurry. For a long guy,
Speaker 1: works in and out of holes. Can can cover some
Speaker 1: ground when he runs. Hard. Guy to out run, especially
Speaker 1: to the edge. So like it plays with some violence
Speaker 1: and uh finds the ball, plays well in coverage, can
Speaker 1: carry his guy to field. He'll call some problems in
Speaker 1: the pockets of blitzer, and he can create some turnovers.
Speaker 1: So honest, I wanted to draft him as our strong safety. Congratulation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at six two and a half and two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty pounds, how about that trade. Charles Gillman having a
Speaker 1: pick round two. Six time pro bowler and member of
Speaker 1: the two thousands All Decade Team old encruits. Hey look
Speaker 1: small CE two one man one sound created the seventy
Speaker 1: third pick to the Chicago Bears. How's It? Nashville. With
Speaker 1: the seventy third pick in the two thousand and nineteen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select David Montgomery, running back.
Speaker 1: How goes short and nice like that? One? Huh? That's it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm gonna play along with us. I'm a
Speaker 1: David Montgomery fan. You know who was a David Montgomery fan?
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys were? Yeah? Were they? Yeah? They were?
Speaker 1: I love having him. He's a lot of fun to me.
Speaker 1: I just liked the fact that it's he was like,
Speaker 1: if you would like to tackle David, he's not planning
Speaker 1: on being tackled by one person very often. I love
Speaker 1: I just love watching him run. I just think he's
Speaker 1: so tough. The balance is so good. Uh that you know,
Speaker 1: they let Jordan Howard go in Chicago for almost nothing
Speaker 1: because you got Tariko in there, And I think David
Speaker 1: that's a nice little stable running backs. He also has
Speaker 1: the intangibles that are just off the charts. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's all the sea on his chest. There Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: just the easy guy to appreciate it. And he's not dynamic,
Speaker 1: as you know, he's not that big time athlete. He's
Speaker 1: not going to necessarily make guys miss all the time.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's toughness. It's easy to like him
Speaker 1: and appreciate how he how he runs with the football.
Speaker 1: So he's going to a good situation. It's just I
Speaker 1: actually got a pick right in the third round in
Speaker 1: my mock draft, but I like this fit. It looks
Speaker 1: like Buffalo's now at the podium, the selection is dedicated
Speaker 1: to a city with someone like Pinto Ron Kenny Johnson
Speaker 1: who brills on the hood of a car and pour
Speaker 1: shots out of bowling balls, but essentially Ezra Castro, famously
Speaker 1: known as Concho, he wanted to be here tonight, but
Speaker 1: just just told him that he would enter hospice for
Speaker 1: the cancer he's been so bravely battling. I thought he
Speaker 1: should be here tonight, so I brought him along in
Speaker 1: a way be a FaceTime. So Nashville, please show Ezra
Speaker 1: and his family in the hospital some love as you
Speaker 1: embody the spirit of the people of Buffalo. We never
Speaker 1: give up, We never give in. Zra keep fighting keeping
Speaker 1: Go Bills with a seventy fourth pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills Singletary, No, everyhaler goes
Speaker 1: the runners. Ryan's tiny runner, My tiny runner. Now we
Speaker 1: do gotta get the runner at ninety, right, Ryn gonna
Speaker 1: go get one as they all come off the board. Hey,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about him a little bit? Uh? Yeah, him. Well,
Speaker 1: everyone got scared after he Heftery ran slow right in
Speaker 1: my situation, into a box of eight or nine guys
Speaker 1: more than Devin Singletary there right, Like every opposing team knew, Okay,
Speaker 1: well that's the guy we have to stop, so load
Speaker 1: up the box. I thought he had good cuts, good vision.
Speaker 1: I think the start stop is there. I think that
Speaker 1: was the most the best trait that he Had's just
Speaker 1: he's able to really accelerate and crank it up into
Speaker 1: another gear freak everyone out after he ran a horrible
Speaker 1: four to six six or whatever. But he's a tiny man.
Speaker 1: I don't mind the tiny man. He did take a
Speaker 1: heavy load over the last two years, over six or
Speaker 1: touches the last couple of years. If that bothers you
Speaker 1: that I'm I kind of like the Josh Jacob's idea
Speaker 1: of a guy who didn't carry it much in college
Speaker 1: to save it for the big boys. But I think
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, love him. I mean I liked
Speaker 1: some of these guys a little bit more. But Devin Singletary,
Speaker 1: this is this is a great range for him seventy four.
Speaker 1: Did you have anything on him, Derek Jeff Uh, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was a big fan, and I didn't mind the
Speaker 1: bad workout I talked to We talked about this. He's
Speaker 1: on the draft shore. Maybe I talked with Dane on
Speaker 1: trust the tape workout. It would have to be really,
Speaker 1: really really bad for me to care. Oh, Packer selection.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Jason Sternberger tie down Texas saying
Speaker 1: him because of running back, you know, like a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: If you're not athletic, that's a problem because you line
Speaker 1: up directly across from someone. And if he's marthic a problem.
Speaker 1: There's corners, offensive verse, defensive lineman. Those are all things
Speaker 1: running back. I'll trust your tape. Singletary's tape is really good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you can play Packers. Given Sternberger a weapon,
Speaker 1: I knew they would help Aaron Rodgers out at some point.
Speaker 1: I was kind of shocked that they went double defense
Speaker 1: in round one when they went Rashaun Garry and Darnell Savage.
Speaker 1: Then a little bit earlier they took Elton Jenkins the
Speaker 1: guard center really but he'll play garden. Now they get
Speaker 1: Sternberger and Sternberger a guy who I know, quite frankly
Speaker 1: didn't think would get out of the top sixty. I
Speaker 1: think Sternberger is gonna be a great weapon. They have
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, who's old, expensive and not that good anymore.
Speaker 1: So DeVante has out from that office. Those younger guys
Speaker 1: um that they've been kind of incorporating into the offense.
Speaker 1: It's Valdez Scantling and Equanimius Saint Brown and drawn him
Speaker 1: o Allison. Now you add Jay Sternberger again, could stretch
Speaker 1: the field a little bit. I think I think he
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers are gonna have pretty good Uh. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have a pretty good rapport. I think
Speaker 1: that's a really good for Packers. Washington. You were on
Speaker 1: the clock at number seventy six, Washington. What have they
Speaker 1: done all the way through? I know early I really
Speaker 1: liked what they did by virtue of the sweat trade.
Speaker 1: This is the first time they're on the clock. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: they've done a nice job just letting Dwayne Haskins fall
Speaker 1: to them and then going to get going. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: believe they're twice before we're done tonight. Yeah, they're at
Speaker 1: seventy six and ninety six. So yeah, that's that's what
Speaker 1: blew me away last night is they went up for
Speaker 1: Montez Sweat and didn't give away the majority of their
Speaker 1: picks to night. So make a good pick right here,
Speaker 1: and I mean I don't want them to. No, I
Speaker 1: don't either. They're killing it, but I think they've done it.
Speaker 1: They're having a very good draft. To They got my
Speaker 1: running back, they went up and got my top left tackle.
Speaker 1: And then what did the Eagles just do? They just
Speaker 1: do sag a white side. That our saga white side.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of okay, but that's a red zone kind
Speaker 1: of weapon. I'm man on that. I'm also kind of
Speaker 1: man on that. But there are other picks I'm high on.
Speaker 1: So I think that they've had a nice little draft.
Speaker 1: Got their edge the in sweat, they get their quarterback,
Speaker 1: I have wide receiver in free safety. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what you guys have on the neat sheet, but on
Speaker 1: my personal kneat sheet, I have wide receipt, wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Wide receiver stands out for that. I mean Kelvin Harmon
Speaker 1: still on the board and the name if you guys
Speaker 1: get a des vibe with Kelvin Harmon going out wild comps.
Speaker 1: I saw a little bit of Michael Thomas at the
Speaker 1: catch point. I mean with his ability to high point
Speaker 1: and be strong to the football that plays. Now, he's
Speaker 1: not going to be consistently a guy that easily uncovers
Speaker 1: and creates a ton of separation. But when the ball's
Speaker 1: in the air, it's his ball, he goes and gets it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the positive that where it's like he's he's
Speaker 1: kind of a physical guy, doesn't have a lot of
Speaker 1: speed or the foot quickness and change the direction, but
Speaker 1: he wins on physicality using his body toughness. Uh So,
Speaker 1: Kelvin Harmon I wasn't as high on as my scouting counterparts.
Speaker 1: But you know where we are, probably to the point
Speaker 1: where he starts coming into play, he might be tread well.
Speaker 1: Harmon's there, Terry mclaurin's there, Miles Boykin's there, Riley Ridley's there,
Speaker 1: Hakim Butler's there. Yeah, there's some receivers in this draft.
Speaker 1: If they want some help, it's there for Thank you
Speaker 1: used the safety too. Chauncey Gardner Johnson's still on the board.
Speaker 1: A player I love. I know his personality might not
Speaker 1: be good for every team in the league, but Chauncey
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson is a lot of fun. Also, they just
Speaker 1: traded that. You know, they draft those Alabama defensive linemen.
Speaker 1: They just traded for haha, Clinton Dick's last year Deantay Thompson,
Speaker 1: the safety of Alabama, is still on the board. Also,
Speaker 1: Mac Wilson, the linebacker, still the SOB Alabama guyst is
Speaker 1: so I've obviously they have. They have Landon Collins. They
Speaker 1: gave him a gob of money. The chaser Everett is
Speaker 1: the safety starter. Uh. Paul Richardson, Josh Dockson and Trey
Speaker 1: Quinn are their top three receivers right now. You wonder
Speaker 1: about what I means line, So here comes the Redskins
Speaker 1: pick more suspense. They're just gonna do two times six.
Speaker 1: Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year and Pro Football
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Daryl Grants quite the resume for Dary Brain.
Speaker 1: His son spent a cup of coffee in Dallas a
Speaker 1: few years ago. Nation good people right there, the Mason
Speaker 1: Nation back home as well. What the seventy six pick
Speaker 1: Bell draft? My Washington rifts that Terry mccurran, here you go,
Speaker 1: boom State. Did you just call that? Dave? I listed
Speaker 1: off like eighteen names. I'm not gonna. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think if you keep it under twenty names, as
Speaker 1: it counts is calling. We called receiver, look at the
Speaker 1: needs and what's available. That part was easy. I don't
Speaker 1: know about the specific name. Well, I seem really, I
Speaker 1: seem to be really really wrong about Kelvin Harmon. Then
Speaker 1: you know that people are I just saw. I mean,
Speaker 1: if this guy, if this draft has taught you anything,
Speaker 1: isn't it's that like nobody has the same idea about anybody.
Speaker 1: I guess be variation, but this year it seems like
Speaker 1: especially so Yeah, I mean I thought I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: Harmon was like a guy I think I had thirty
Speaker 1: one on my board, you know, I mean we we
Speaker 1: talked about him, and you know, it's just kind of
Speaker 1: but one of those things where you're kind of going, okay,
Speaker 1: and they're taking guys that I mean like I got
Speaker 1: like a I like a guy like Riley Ridley too,
Speaker 1: you know, talking about and next thing you know that
Speaker 1: you know you're you're you're taking a guy that you
Speaker 1: know you didn't you didn't have as high on the board.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of one of those things that you
Speaker 1: just wonder what people are really thinking about we had play,
Speaker 1: if we had thought about this on a deeper level,
Speaker 1: well they might not have done that. But I didn't
Speaker 1: even put it together that this is obviously Dwayne Hatson's
Speaker 1: college about that news. Patriots on the clock right now.
Speaker 1: They went with Nikkill Harry to in the first round.
Speaker 1: In the second round they took Joe Wuan Williams, and
Speaker 1: now they come to the third round. If there's one
Speaker 1: thing I know about the Patriots, it's they take good players.
Speaker 1: They do they do. Could this be? Could I'll throw
Speaker 1: out a quarterback again. I keep throwing out here. And
Speaker 1: New England Patriots select Chase Oh the wild haired man
Speaker 1: from the North really look the best defensive end prospect
Speaker 1: for Michigan just got picked. You can't compare him to
Speaker 1: Claim Atthews just because he looks like Matthew. Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is messed up. Nice combine, pretty nice production on
Speaker 1: the field. Never stops my guy, Chase Win. When you
Speaker 1: were about it, when I got to say, listen, we
Speaker 1: got haters in the room. I know that wini It
Speaker 1: is the better defensive end at Michigan. He'll be the
Speaker 1: better NFL player. You think so, Yeah, when you watch
Speaker 1: Rashaan Gary tape, you see that's what does that say
Speaker 1: about What does that say about both prospects, that one's
Speaker 1: better than the other. I mean, I get it has
Speaker 1: the prototypical kind of size if you're going to kick
Speaker 1: him inside or play him outside. You know what's what's
Speaker 1: annoying is which I mean, I'm not. I'm not the
Speaker 1: biggest fan of his, but he's gonna go to New
Speaker 1: England and be like there, touchdown passes, He's just gonna
Speaker 1: be their utility guy. He's gonna have like four and
Speaker 1: a half sacks and sixty tackles and just be He'll
Speaker 1: be good there, probably because they're the Patriots. Yeah, he's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't, you know, we don't. We don't need to.
Speaker 1: We don't need to gloat about where we're going. We're
Speaker 1: just gonna enjoy our Dolphins are now up the question
Speaker 1: get done all right? Got the quarterback need covered with
Speaker 1: the Josh Rosen trade. At the podium here with the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: the Subdolphins with eight into two thy nineteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins select. Okay, that's that's my guy. Time
Speaker 1: to go protect Josh Rosen or Ryan Fitzpatrick. They shouldn't
Speaker 1: have drafted somebody. Michael Dieter. Wow, we've reached that point
Speaker 1: of the draft for it ks Wisconsin lineman man. He
Speaker 1: does the things that Wisconsin lineman do. What that short
Speaker 1: get the job done because of their play. I Q boom,
Speaker 1: that was nice, strong play. Okay, smart player, not long,
Speaker 1: but you were talking job to Mia and and now
Speaker 1: and now you're talking about like this guy is Remington
Speaker 1: paced big ten offensive lineman of the year Branever, he
Speaker 1: stereotypical Wisconsin get the job done guy. He's just reliable.
Speaker 1: Okay McGovern McGovern or this guy. Uh. It just depends
Speaker 1: on what style you want, though, you know, like they're
Speaker 1: not they're not the same. If you want more power,
Speaker 1: like a phone booth guy, I think Deeter's your guy.
Speaker 1: If you want more of a versatile you could probably
Speaker 1: go McGovern. So they're looking for me. They're looking for
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna win with power and smarts, and
Speaker 1: that's Deeter. They don't need a versatile mover. Their quarterback
Speaker 1: is not leaving the pocket. Josh Rose killing me on
Speaker 1: this this Deeter thing right now. I love Drew Sema,
Speaker 1: way know you do. I gotta tell you I like
Speaker 1: this KT. I think there's some real good players, big
Speaker 1: ten run coming in. One thing I've learned it's don't
Speaker 1: ever doubt the Wisconsin offensive lineman who has a production
Speaker 1: but me gets the job done. You watch him plays,
Speaker 1: You're watch him plays, though, and he doesn't get beat well.
Speaker 1: And double digit starts in his career at tackle, guard
Speaker 1: and center. So the kid at Kansas State can say that,
Speaker 1: right they win the second round. No, he only started
Speaker 1: at center and right tackle, but he practiced the guard.
Speaker 1: He practiced at guard, so you thought he could play there.
Speaker 1: Here's a note. Here's a note I wrote on my
Speaker 1: note trid here. One thing I noticed about him is
Speaker 1: that he's the same player. Every tape he put on
Speaker 1: doesn't change. And he's talking about Samia like he was
Speaker 1: like the Outland winner. I had a Bengal soap bus
Speaker 1: earlier and I got a Michael Dieter's soap bucks. Now
Speaker 1: all right for the unpopular things. I like McGovern the
Speaker 1: senior trying to tell me about McGovern. The senior really
Speaker 1: exposed him. We'll not exposed him, but short arms, I
Speaker 1: hear that hurt him. Did I hear that, short Arms? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dane's trying to do three things at once. I love
Speaker 1: I really like that. We're getting into the contentious part
Speaker 1: of the NFL draps. This is great. I want to
Speaker 1: see whose guy goes next. I love Semia. You need
Speaker 1: the fourth round guy on my board. Semia is a
Speaker 1: third and so is McGovern. By the way, brought us
Speaker 1: you said you had a question. Now we're eleven picks.
Speaker 1: What was that question you had about even picks away
Speaker 1: from the cowboys behind? Yeah, I was thinking about some Oh,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about the well the Rams picks in
Speaker 1: I started. These picks are coming fast. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: were a complainant they were too slow ten minutes ago,
Speaker 1: Jackie Slater, I wish the Wisconsin guy silly, but yeah,
Speaker 1: out of Rams with the seventy ninth pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen NFL rap, the Los Angeles Rams select defensive
Speaker 1: fact David Long from Michigan. Yeah, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: They're also picking good players. I think David longs. You
Speaker 1: could say there's not a lot of consensus about that
Speaker 1: in this room. Well, if you want to, if you
Speaker 1: want to find me the tape of David Long getting
Speaker 1: caught on, I'll pay you for it because you're gonna
Speaker 1: have trouble finding it. They're just there's honestly, just not
Speaker 1: a lot of tape on the period, like there's not
Speaker 1: And that's why I have him seventy two on my board. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I like this pick is a good value
Speaker 1: for the Rams. He's not the biggest guy, but he's
Speaker 1: a really good athlete, and he's very very physical down
Speaker 1: field and that works against him at times because he
Speaker 1: will be a flag magnet. But he plays suffocating coverage
Speaker 1: and you can win with guys like that. Ten picks.
Speaker 1: The run of running backs is started. I don't really
Speaker 1: want to go that out. Let me. Let me throw
Speaker 1: this out there, boys, any consideration for a defensive end
Speaker 1: when you look at Crosby, you got for Nelson Ferguson,
Speaker 1: oh Man, Well, I think Crosby versus Ferguson versus the
Speaker 1: most productive sack artist in college football history. And Max Crosby,
Speaker 1: who does not have that sort of production at an
Speaker 1: even smaller school, but has the athletic testing that you
Speaker 1: dream of. That's and can't you just imagine about an
Speaker 1: hour from now, they'll hold this press conference saying like
Speaker 1: we would have drafted. Yah, that's gonna be a quote
Speaker 1: to whoever they pick Cleveland Browns, their their pick is in. Okay,
Speaker 1: we still have thorn Thorn Hill, go, he went right
Speaker 1: thorn Hills in Kansas City, Kansas City. My bad there,
Speaker 1: I did not mark him off my boards. That a
Speaker 1: second round or third round shot on thorn Hill. Second
Speaker 1: that it was two picks away from the end of
Speaker 1: the second My bad, Thornhill at sixty three. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just sometimes I do housekeeping and sometimes I don't.
Speaker 1: We're all juggling about six different things right now. It's great, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's think about Okay, if you're Cowboy fans, is it
Speaker 1: gonna come down to guys like those defensive ends or
Speaker 1: is it gonna come down to one of these safeties?
Speaker 1: Is this the safety that we that we uh that
Speaker 1: we like? I mean again, you talk about safety left
Speaker 1: that you feel good about. I don't get the impression
Speaker 1: it's not about us. It's not about I don't I
Speaker 1: don't mean us. I'm do you, john guy, you feel
Speaker 1: good about But and that's my point, Katie, I would
Speaker 1: love that. I'm under the impression they don't love him.
Speaker 1: Maybe they love him more to think about those thirty
Speaker 1: visits boys. But again, I say Johnson, they love, I
Speaker 1: say Johnson, they love I know that, I know that Johnson.
Speaker 1: I think they have a vendetta against me, and they
Speaker 1: just want to make sure they pick guys that I
Speaker 1: don't want them to pick. We have the Browns picking eighty.
Speaker 1: Let's go. It's Christian Kirksey. With the eightieth pick in
Speaker 1: the two thousand Nights NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns selecta
Speaker 1: Taki linebacker. We are on the road of picking all
Speaker 1: the good players. I loved me some talkie talkie table. Well, dude,
Speaker 1: talk about me talkie notes. Okay, well it starts talking
Speaker 1: talking about talking about talkie. Um it starts with a
Speaker 1: negative note. But don't worry, the notes will get better.
Speaker 1: I did see that he had a tendency to try
Speaker 1: to sneak inside of blocks from his outside linebacker spot.
Speaker 1: And he'd get trapped inside sometimes and allow runners to
Speaker 1: get around him off. But I think he does a
Speaker 1: pretty good job in terms of when he is striking guys.
Speaker 1: He will strike and work himself free. He's got some
Speaker 1: initial pop in his hands. He's a physical player. I
Speaker 1: love that part of his game. There's a little slipperiness
Speaker 1: to him. I think he will have to improve as
Speaker 1: a tackler. He comes up empty on some tackle attempts,
Speaker 1: but he talked make himself tough to block. I like him.
Speaker 1: I like Takie Taki. My guy's got to become a
Speaker 1: more reliable finisher. But I think that dude can play.
Speaker 1: I like him. It's a good depth piece at least,
Speaker 1: so John Dorsey at the Cleveland Browns with a third
Speaker 1: round pick over eightieth overall. B y you, Danny, did
Speaker 1: you kind of see him the same way with when
Speaker 1: you're watching him. There's certainly things alike. I mean, he
Speaker 1: did a little bit of everything. He's an edge rusher,
Speaker 1: he played the mic, he played the will, so I
Speaker 1: mean he did a little bit of everything, and I
Speaker 1: think he handled it fairly well. Plays with some speed,
Speaker 1: plays a toughness. Uh, it's a control at the point,
Speaker 1: and there are times where he'd be a little bit
Speaker 1: off balance when he's trying to finish. But you also
Speaker 1: have to talk about the character. I mean he this
Speaker 1: is a guy who's kicked out of by U at
Speaker 1: one point, worked his way back. Uh, credits his wife
Speaker 1: as a big influence in his life in terms of
Speaker 1: turning things around. So, uh, you know he's so I
Speaker 1: think there's plenty to like about him. Okay, we have
Speaker 1: a trade going off between this uh Detroit, it's this Minnesota.
Speaker 1: It was Minnesota on the clock, it was Minnesota. We
Speaker 1: got an NFC North trade here. Okay, let me get you.
Speaker 1: We get the particulars of that trade for you as
Speaker 1: we speak. Detroit get Hawkinson in around one Johnny eighty eight,
Speaker 1: which uh that'd be there. They would go to let's see,
Speaker 1: eighty eight to eighty one to eighty one. So Minnesota
Speaker 1: is picking at eighty eight, Uh two o four and
Speaker 1: and then Minneso Soda will come to eighty one. So
Speaker 1: just two oh four will be the reason that this pick.
Speaker 1: So seven spots cost you a seventh rounder. So yeah,
Speaker 1: seven spots, Uh, that's a sixth right. Or maybe it's
Speaker 1: a state guy who that makes a little bit of sense.
Speaker 1: A lot of things still on the boards. So some
Speaker 1: good names on the boarded areas that they need. And uh,
Speaker 1: let's see what the perpetuate nate Detroit Lions decided to
Speaker 1: do right here, pick eighty one, which the Cowboys took
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup at last year. Oh there you go, Katie,
Speaker 1: nice memory of that. So nine picks away from the
Speaker 1: Cowboys at ninety Yeah, okay, we're still you know, we
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything from the war room yet from the Cowboys. Again,
Speaker 1: we thank you for the food that the legends folk
Speaker 1: it did. Jeff, is it tastes good? That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it tastes answer to your question is yes,
Speaker 1: Buffalo chicken sandwich. Here we go. The Lions are gonna
Speaker 1: be at the podium right now. Corey Sussinger Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: have traded the eighty first pick to Detroit Lions. What
Speaker 1: the eighty first pick in the twenty nineteen NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions select Will Harris, defensive back Boston College. Wow. Well, okay, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real honest too. That's they were. They were.
Speaker 1: This was one of those those this is one of
Speaker 1: those times where I think that they were they were
Speaker 1: hoping that they could sit there and draft a guy
Speaker 1: like Will Harris right there. So, uh, this is the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna have to do some some re shuffling here,
Speaker 1: I think in their war room because they lost a
Speaker 1: guy that they we were thinking about drafting here at
Speaker 1: at ninety at at three ninety. I just like to
Speaker 1: imagine in my head that the Chauncey Gardner Johnson meeting
Speaker 1: went well when he visited here. That's the way I
Speaker 1: like to picture it, because no, well, that's the way
Speaker 1: I like to picture it because I liked the player
Speaker 1: and I think he would be fun to put on
Speaker 1: the team. I agree with that part, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's realistic, but I like the
Speaker 1: idea because we got him graded as a second rounder
Speaker 1: and I like him. That's the That's the draft, though,
Speaker 1: isn't it. I mean draft? They sat back as again,
Speaker 1: we waited for one guy, yea, and they get which
Speaker 1: they waited for one guy, which a lot of people
Speaker 1: seem to think they reached on, and then they tried
Speaker 1: to do the same thing with another guy right and
Speaker 1: a team jumped in front of him again on a
Speaker 1: guy whose grades are all over the place. Are we
Speaker 1: gonna end up having hit both of their picks on
Speaker 1: the Draft show last week when we were on Locate God,
Speaker 1: that would be fun. I think a chance. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like, I think you could do something better than
Speaker 1: draft Trevion Williams. I do too, but I want to
Speaker 1: be right though. I think, yeah, I think the road
Speaker 1: getting the win right there, getting Tristan Hill. I think
Speaker 1: they would give Richard to win at ninety. I know
Speaker 1: they love Isaiah, they do love Isaiah Johnson. Is it
Speaker 1: too early for any of those other cornerbacks that they love?
Speaker 1: What's a Michigan State kid? What's his name? Still there?
Speaker 1: Justin Lay? Damon Harris is still out there? Right he is?
Speaker 1: I mean, which wants to be right? To look at
Speaker 1: it over there exactly? But fifteen Okay, let me ask
Speaker 1: you this. We got sweat eight picks. I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: Ferguson out there again. Yep, I'm gonna throw out there
Speaker 1: the Michigan State. What can you can you really draft
Speaker 1: Ferguson with the with the just You got to think
Speaker 1: about practicalities too, The fact that he doesn't have Seal
Speaker 1: service tonight is there, well, sir, which Hey, all the
Speaker 1: best on the podium real quick, let's go back Titans
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Speaker 1: twelve high school football players from team across them across
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Speaker 1: Please welcome to your local high school students. You'm around
Speaker 1: a plot with the eighty second pick in the two
Speaker 1: thousand and ninety NFL Draft, that Tennessee tie select n Davis. No,
Speaker 1: I got Nate Davis brought us guy. Yes, gotta could
Speaker 1: scout again. I'm back. I'm back. Not a very good player, Brian.
Speaker 1: He well, you know, Charlotte guy, I'll just trying to
Speaker 1: poke him. No, No, I know you're Friday night, Jeff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna get long tomorrow. I'll tell you what. Though.
Speaker 1: He plays with some leverage. He's got some pop to
Speaker 1: his game, you know he is, He's got it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The frog they're talking about the unique frogs stance his butts.
Speaker 1: It's really, really, really low room by the way. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're back in the war room. By the way, this
Speaker 1: is the wardroom at the Ford Center. So we appreciate
Speaker 1: those of folks allowing us a little bit peak and
Speaker 1: their guys. We got to start thinking about are we
Speaker 1: was really hoping when they turned this thing on that
Speaker 1: there'd be a coach standing in the background. They've learned, Dave.
Speaker 1: I think they've learned about us and our ability to
Speaker 1: evaluate who's in that room and what they're gonna do. No,
Speaker 1: that helmet and that brought us. They know who we are.
Speaker 1: Who's in the room might be a hint. So as
Speaker 1: we're getting like I said, we're getting a little bit closer.
Speaker 1: We are we still thinking? Are we still thinking defense?
Speaker 1: But offense? You brought up the running back. I think
Speaker 1: they really liked the Pollard kid from Memphis, and I
Speaker 1: don't think they'll take Pollard at ninety. I think save
Speaker 1: yet two picks in round four. I want to get
Speaker 1: the rudder tomorrow, which okay, I want. Okay, So they
Speaker 1: took Tristan Hill. They had safeties on the board that
Speaker 1: I mean, with the influence that Chris Rochard has, does
Speaker 1: that maybe say to you that Chris Rochard was like,
Speaker 1: we're good. Yeah, I like Xavier Woods, good player. We've
Speaker 1: got a looka to help out Heath. This doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be a safety. So does that mean he feels
Speaker 1: comfortable at fifty eight? I mean, I'm sorry, does that
Speaker 1: mean he feels comfortable with what he's got period? Or
Speaker 1: to your point, is he saying, all right, I played
Speaker 1: ball and went away from the safety of fifty eight.
Speaker 1: Now help me out. I'd be comfortable without a safety.
Speaker 1: I think the idea of safety was appealing to me
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. If it were somebody like Taylor dall
Speaker 1: if I felt really good that they could upgrade the spot,
Speaker 1: let me at this spot, let me be totally. Let
Speaker 1: me be too. I just mean in defensive back, it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a safety. But at night we
Speaker 1: got a second round grade on lane. Yeah, don't we
Speaker 1: he six two? Don't we he's six two? Might write
Speaker 1: on that long enough. I mean Gallup was not Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I remember gallopet in a thirty Visitlas, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at my guys. It wasn't but he
Speaker 1: was a private workout. I'm looking at the guys on
Speaker 1: my board on the one five three board lane Gardner Johnson,
Speaker 1: David says, I don't think they like Gardner Johnson that much. Okay,
Speaker 1: we got him in the second round. We're got probably
Speaker 1: be wrong about that. Steelers are on the on the clock,
Speaker 1: they're on the podium right now. Let's see what they've got.
Speaker 1: That's the old backup quarterback. He's gonna take his horse
Speaker 1: to the old town road right there. No, that's my man,
Speaker 1: the old quarterback, the old quarterback from them le bat. Yes,
Speaker 1: come on, man, I couldn't remember. I'm honored to be
Speaker 1: here with Pison Bryan. Oh oh god, not like nothing
Speaker 1: about that was close to being right. Looks like Charlie Batch.
Speaker 1: Oh where down? Why do you have to make fun
Speaker 1: of Brett Keisel? And then he took justin lane. Oh
Speaker 1: that's my fault, guys, I am so mad. Called Brett Keisel,
Speaker 1: Charlie Batch, Charlie badge. He did he kind of Charlie
Speaker 1: Batch face. They needed a cornerback too. That is a
Speaker 1: great pig. Where's Charlie? What's Charlie Batch face? He's got
Speaker 1: he kind of Charlie Batch face. He got the ethnicity wrong,
Speaker 1: among other things. He looked tanned, like he's working in
Speaker 1: the Bahamas or something like that, and you couldn't really
Speaker 1: tell you did have a nice time. I didn't even
Speaker 1: look to see if there was a reaction in the
Speaker 1: war room at all. Those doesn't look like they looked
Speaker 1: like they're just hanging in there, guys. So I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys. The Isaiah Johnson love
Speaker 1: that I've heard from you, and you guys might have
Speaker 1: heard it as well. The Isaiah Johnson loved that this
Speaker 1: team has yeah, or I'll let you has at least
Speaker 1: I've heard. Okay. I think they would be thrilled to
Speaker 1: walk away with Isaiah Johnson at ninety. I think they
Speaker 1: would be pumped justin Lane is gone. But my point
Speaker 1: still stands is, you know, Christoph Shard says, I played nice.
Speaker 1: You got your DT at fifty eight, Now get me
Speaker 1: a DV at ninety. That wouldn't surprise me at all.
Speaker 1: Safety corner, take your pick, pick your poison. I guess
Speaker 1: I would kind of be surprised if it's a running
Speaker 1: well the jackets, We're about to get serious here. It's
Speaker 1: either that I took up the jacket. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about biting into that buffalo chicken sandwich, me too, now
Speaker 1: that we'll miss tell this out here, don't kill me.
Speaker 1: We don't have to spend a lot of time on it. Okay.
Speaker 1: One of their thirty visits was old miss tight end
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox. Okay, Hey, how are you feeling there? How
Speaker 1: are you feeling there? Um, Kellen Moore? When a little
Speaker 1: diversity to the offense, Let's maybe how you feeling out?
Speaker 1: Let's get a guy could stretch the defense and catch everything.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling there, Kellen Moore? Here's a guy
Speaker 1: that won't be on the field for his first year.
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler asked me, tell me this question. Answer me
Speaker 1: this question. Who do you have Hire Ferguson or Dawson
Speaker 1: Knox Ferguson? Um, jitln Ferguson pass rusher? When's the last
Speaker 1: time Jalen Ferguson scored a touchdown? Good? Question? Scored one
Speaker 1: in college? But if he did, he scored one more
Speaker 1: recently than Dawson Knox. Okay, Dane Ferguson or Isaiah Johnson.
Speaker 1: That's closer. I think that's where where we're at. You
Speaker 1: brought him up. They like for I think they like
Speaker 1: Isaiah Johnson a lot more than we do. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he's got It's just he's raws sushi. We got
Speaker 1: love you know, uh old war right, don't we have?
Speaker 1: We have him? Right? I'm sorry, this is a serious conversation,
Speaker 1: but the Charlie Batch conversation is on the internet. Now
Speaker 1: we're going places with it. Did you know I didn't see?
Speaker 1: I mean there was thousands of people listening to us.
Speaker 1: They've put a picture of Zach Brown, of the Zach
Speaker 1: Brown Band guitar. Hey, look it's Charlie Batch. So good
Speaker 1: blogging the boys, you guys, I think, Well, tell me
Speaker 1: this is am I foolish out their guys? Am I
Speaker 1: foolish to say, stop worrying about the visit list because
Speaker 1: they do have they're gonna put They're gonna be more
Speaker 1: guys that didn't visit than did in this draft. It
Speaker 1: depends gonna happen. It depends. Sometimes one year they one
Speaker 1: year seven of their nine picks where visit one visits.
Speaker 1: One year it was like three out of ten, Right,
Speaker 1: it depends. I think it'll end up where there's more
Speaker 1: than Ryan. Just tell you will. Harris was there one
Speaker 1: of their targets at ninety Yeah, he's a visit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's fine, that's one of their targets at night. They're
Speaker 1: not all gonna be visits. But tell me about Charlie Batch. Really, Yes,
Speaker 1: you like killing you? They don't. They're not killing you.
Speaker 1: I think they think it's I can't see worth a crap.
Speaker 1: I admit it. They don't have a thirty person draft board. No,
Speaker 1: But but that goes back to my point, like, again,
Speaker 1: we think of this draft. We think of this draft
Speaker 1: is six hundred players, right, Dane has watched a thousand people,
Speaker 1: and they probably it's about one hundred and twenty. They
Speaker 1: probably think of it as about forty honestly. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating, but like they've got a handful of guys
Speaker 1: that they like at a handful of ranges. And I
Speaker 1: think you have to be mindful of that. And I
Speaker 1: definitely think on Night two it's too early to abandon
Speaker 1: the visit list. In my opinion, Yeah, I agree, Chiefs
Speaker 1: at the podium, go for it. The two thousands All
Speaker 1: Decades Joystick with Joystick Chiefs Kingdom and the two thousand
Speaker 1: nineteen NFL Draft. The Kansas City Chiefs select Kaylin Saunders. Okay,
Speaker 1: defensive Town McCole, Hartman one Thornhill, and Kaylin Saunders for
Speaker 1: the Chief. Not bad. It's not a bad little haul.
Speaker 1: Is he? Is he a trust the tape guy or
Speaker 1: trust the Senior Bowl guy? Is that a fair question?
Speaker 1: Trust that back flip he did at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: Trust the traits guy. I mean, he's he played nose
Speaker 1: tackle in the three four, you know, in college, so
Speaker 1: it was tough to really allow him to just kind
Speaker 1: of let him loose and be productive. But we saw
Speaker 1: a little bit more of that at the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: when he had one on one opportunities and he wasn't
Speaker 1: asked the two gap and take on doubles. So I
Speaker 1: think that you liked the traits and he's an interchangeable tackle.
Speaker 1: To me, you can play him at the three, can
Speaker 1: play him at the one, and you can move him
Speaker 1: around that defensive line. I think that football characters outstanding.
Speaker 1: He has traits that you want. I just I love
Speaker 1: that he was a running back in high school and
Speaker 1: now he's a defensive tackle in the NFL. That's great.
Speaker 1: I want to see his high school tape. What did
Speaker 1: he weighs pounds or was he a two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy pound runner. No, I mean technically they listened him
Speaker 1: as a full back. He was just a big boy.
Speaker 1: He's he's a defensive lineman on defense and a full
Speaker 1: back on offense. It so we got Baltimore here at
Speaker 1: eighty five. Yeah, can I circling back around like we
Speaker 1: were talking about practicality, Jalen Ferguson guy the Cowboys really
Speaker 1: like still kicking around three or four picks to their
Speaker 1: to their pick in the in the draft. Can you
Speaker 1: draft that guy with what you already have here you?
Speaker 1: I mean, we have too many defensive linemen, Yes, too
Speaker 1: many defensive linemen that you're probably not gonna come and
Speaker 1: you've replaced and you've brought into three techniques. So moving
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford there's probably not gonna happen. You've got Robert Quinn,
Speaker 1: You've got DeMarcus Lawrence Crawford, Taco Dorrance. You're doing it
Speaker 1: for me, thank you. Carrie Hyder? Hyder, can you draft him?
Speaker 1: And Nix? I mean somebody's gonna have to go. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the here's the Ravens. Ravens have a history, probably
Speaker 1: not always kind of messing with you here. Their first
Speaker 1: pick was Marcus Browns the best man's in the world.
Speaker 1: I'm George Tonight. About Mouth Taylor, a twenty three year
Speaker 1: old strength athlete with cerebral pausing in Fairbury. Miles posted
Speaker 1: a video on Instagram showing him death left in two
Speaker 1: hundred pounds. That's twice his body weight at a personal record.
Speaker 1: Miles perseverance determination has calcivated the attention and admiration of millions.
Speaker 1: Miles take it away, buddy, Yeah, the game tween Nagge
Speaker 1: and the boy don't even flip got in Ferguson, What up?
Speaker 1: What a prescient conversation by David Hellman there Jalen Ferguson
Speaker 1: off the board of eighty five, And I think you're right, Like,
Speaker 1: if they hadn't taken him, maybe it's possible. But once
Speaker 1: you've taken a three technique, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: it would have made sense to draft both of them,
Speaker 1: which so are you crossing off? So we're just crossing
Speaker 1: off defensive end, probably until later when if you want
Speaker 1: to do it on day three, that's fine. If you
Speaker 1: like Max Crosby, don't you take him? Though? If you
Speaker 1: like him, you could you gonna play a snap? I
Speaker 1: am I really gonna let carry Hider stop me from
Speaker 1: taking a player that I like. No, but is he
Speaker 1: gonna play in front of Tyrone Crawford or dorns Armstrong.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the man or talk about maybe you're
Speaker 1: bringing in your fifth or sixth end. Yeah, that's tough,
Speaker 1: and I know they really love Crosby. I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like Richard will win out and I feel
Speaker 1: like it will be defensive bad. I feel a strong
Speaker 1: dB vibe and I feel Isaiah Johnson, who they've been
Speaker 1: in love with, is I just feel like that's where
Speaker 1: this thing's tracking, George, if it if it were to
Speaker 1: happen that way, And I say this as somebody who
Speaker 1: we have Isaiah Johnson as a fourth round player, so
Speaker 1: we wouldn't pick Okay, But I mean I would say,
Speaker 1: I would say this that kind of works here because
Speaker 1: he's your fifth cornerback his first year in the league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not going to touch the field. You have a
Speaker 1: year to essentially say welcome to the NFL, Chris Rochard,
Speaker 1: go mold, and a year from now we expect you
Speaker 1: to play. So if I mean, if you think that
Speaker 1: the upside is that high, which I'm sure Dane. A
Speaker 1: lot of teams on Isaiah Johnson think the upside is
Speaker 1: very high. Yeah, then you could do that. At the
Speaker 1: end of three, you could take you could take that guy,
Speaker 1: which just to play Devil's advocate, fections are up on
Speaker 1: the yep Pody, let's go to ten picks away from
Speaker 1: the end of the round. So we're talking about fourth
Speaker 1: round grades in all cases. Sick in the NFL draft,
Speaker 1: Houston Texans selectd They take Kim when there's better tight ends.
Speaker 1: There's not better tight ends. That's why there are zero
Speaker 1: better tight ends than him on the board. That was
Speaker 1: the best one. Dawson Knox, that was the best tight
Speaker 1: end on the board. Dawson Knox has fallen to you
Speaker 1: at one twenty eight, Katy, that falling. He also has
Speaker 1: some injury stuff that's pretty extensive, so that's that's a
Speaker 1: part of it too. So Dawson's gonna get into my
Speaker 1: Dak's Raymond range. Huh, he might. Let's go a litt
Speaker 1: Dak's Raymond in the fourth round. I get my runner
Speaker 1: at my tight end in the fourth round. This is
Speaker 1: setting up where they could take a runner. Could they
Speaker 1: take it exactly what they wanted Damian Harris. They could
Speaker 1: take a runner. That could happen. Hey, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: read Dane's mock draft this morning. Feels like Damien Harris.
Speaker 1: I know, I just did the Isaiah Johnson bis. Is
Speaker 1: it Hill and Harris? Is that it? Dane's a smart guy.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh yes he is. Is there something we're
Speaker 1: not thinking about here? Probably? Of course, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of positions. I'm just sitting there thinking, though we've talked
Speaker 1: about what's going on at right tackle. You got cam
Speaker 1: forming give me a little Drew Semia in here you go,
Speaker 1: We're going to the podium. Here, let's see the pain
Speaker 1: season Ticketmber Brady Hellos. With the eighty seventh pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, the New England Patriots select
Speaker 1: Damian Harris running back. That's a pin throw. That's that's
Speaker 1: a sarcast like. I'll respect to Damien Harris. I think
Speaker 1: he's a really good player. I think he's an even
Speaker 1: better person. But hey, guys, not what I wanted. That's okay, okay?
Speaker 1: With that, you could still go tray ViOn Williams. Or
Speaker 1: you could do what you probably should do, which is
Speaker 1: waiting for one of your fourth round picks and either
Speaker 1: take Dexter Williams or Rodney and the Pats. Why do
Speaker 1: the Pats need Damien har All eyes are on Isaiah Johnson. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Pats havee Michelle, James White and White. They got
Speaker 1: Rex Burkhead, poor James White and Rex Burkhead. I mean,
Speaker 1: yeahs you're getting let go of tomorrow. Yeah, you're probably
Speaker 1: right the end, it's gonna be Sony and Damien. Isaiah
Speaker 1: Johnson a big time Cowboys fan. I imagine his family
Speaker 1: is partying right now with this possibility. It feels like
Speaker 1: it feels like I don't need him to play this year.
Speaker 1: I need him to be a twenty twenty starting cornerback.
Speaker 1: It's just like I need Tristan Hill to be my
Speaker 1: twenty twenty starting three technique Now Travill Williams and the
Speaker 1: mix is good player makes sense. You know Seahawks are
Speaker 1: up at eighty eight at a trade of Minnesota action. Huh,
Speaker 1: well it will trade Seattle. Seattle is now on the
Speaker 1: clock and two oh nine. All right, I run the
Speaker 1: risk of, like I just I just said this out loud.
Speaker 1: Aren't aren't the Pats redundant at running back? Now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's see what Let's see what the Seahawks are
Speaker 1: gonna do? Right? Here go quick, yes, quick, I can't
Speaker 1: keep up at the podium, at the podium. Here we
Speaker 1: go the Seattle Street Hawks. Cody Barton, lying backer from Utah.
Speaker 1: A little bit of felt like a reach there, huh,
Speaker 1: a little bit. But he's a he's a good player,
Speaker 1: and he flies around the field and makes plays. He's
Speaker 1: really good at that. Don't care. No, I don't care
Speaker 1: about the gonna pick off their board. No, I don't
Speaker 1: care about their draft. Yeah, they don't care. What you
Speaker 1: care about their draft? No? How about that? Colts up
Speaker 1: at eighty nine the old Aberfluce. Think Aberfluce knows what's
Speaker 1: going on in Dallas. No, I'm just doing a bit.
Speaker 1: So they took rock yours in ben Banogu and Paris Campbell.
Speaker 1: The Patriots now have Damian Harris, Sony, Michelle Rex Burkhead,
Speaker 1: and James White. White and Birkhead are both under contract
Speaker 1: for multiple years. Get you to give anything up for
Speaker 1: either of those guys? Trade Sony show, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: They're not gonna trade. So many conversation in the war room.
Speaker 1: Jerry Stephen Garrett all kind of going back and forth.
Speaker 1: I would do it. I would do a day three.
Speaker 1: Will's dialing up someone on the phone right now. You
Speaker 1: don't see they're doing a good job and not letting
Speaker 1: us know if it's an offense or defensive player. Hey, coach,
Speaker 1: just stand over there in the door. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they're just Rod is peeking into the ride of the screen.
Speaker 1: You just could only see part of his arm for
Speaker 1: a minute. Why did you that's Rod? Because that's the
Speaker 1: shirt he was wearing her. Okay, I just wonder, I
Speaker 1: wonder who again, they've they've got they've got names. We've
Speaker 1: all kind of talked about the names. We all talked
Speaker 1: about Johnson that as a guy that potentially could be
Speaker 1: that that, you know, the quarterback from Houston. Yep, and though,
Speaker 1: but Stephen just hung up the phone. Will on the phone.
Speaker 1: Will has handed the phone. Okay, they pick somebody making
Speaker 1: a pick, they're making a sick Bring in the coach,
Speaker 1: show them to us. Let's see if let's see who
Speaker 1: walks in there. I'd be really interesting if it's Kellen Moore.
Speaker 1: I'd be interesting if it's a it's the offensive coach
Speaker 1: because we've kind of talked about, and we've talked about
Speaker 1: focused a lot on these defensive things. But we'll see
Speaker 1: if in fact that maybe this is we we kind
Speaker 1: of in mock drafts had talked about a potential offensive player.
Speaker 1: That was Dane's bold call of the night. They are
Speaker 1: they're trying to keep this from us. They're trying not
Speaker 1: to do handshakes on camera. They've got the coaches of
Speaker 1: the camera and Marinelli I think, I think, but arm well,
Speaker 1: there's all right, okay, Kellen Moore is in the building,
Speaker 1: pat handshakes all around on the guy. It's gonna it's
Speaker 1: Brett Rippon. Did they go Trevion Williams? Is that what
Speaker 1: they did? Sounds like it's gonna be offense with Kellen
Speaker 1: and they're looking with a big old smile. Jason now
Speaker 1: talking to the player, this is this is what do
Speaker 1: we got? Kids? Now they're they're gonna get We did
Speaker 1: see more? Now who else is who? All the more
Speaker 1: looks pumped. Kellen Moore is like, tra ViOn, get over here.
Speaker 1: We'll see. We'll see if in fact who it is.
Speaker 1: We definitely know it's an offensive play. Kellen on the phone,
Speaker 1: would he love kelln would he talk to an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Kelen could be really excited about defense. He's a football coach. Man,
Speaker 1: would he would he talk to about they would get
Speaker 1: big Colombo in there? Lyle likely not here next year,
Speaker 1: passing everybody around? Could it be Kat's Dawson Dawson Knox.
Speaker 1: Don't you think they would call Colombo up? If? I mean,
Speaker 1: anything's possible, Governema Riley Riddling. Oh, it's Mark Colombo lineman
Speaker 1: doga McGovern Yeah, it could be Mia This this I
Speaker 1: bet you, I bet you this is one of Mark Colombos.
Speaker 1: Let's go get a tough guy. This might be McGovern. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this might be one of those guys that you know,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a center guard. Maybe the moving Connor Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know which I'm not. I'm not against at all.
Speaker 1: Like the way Connor Williams seeing the picture of the
Speaker 1: day posted of him today, man looks like he has
Speaker 1: remade his body quickly. Yeah, so we're we're waiting Zach Mark. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Colts pick is ends. We're waiting on the Cowboys
Speaker 1: that they'll be right behind him. With Mark Colombo hugging,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be some offensive lineman of course. And my guest, again,
Speaker 1: is this the way of protecting yourself? If, in fact, Dame,
Speaker 1: we've talked about this wither with McGovern. You know, you
Speaker 1: get at Joe Looney's contract is up. Here's you get
Speaker 1: a guy that's a center guard. You're not one hundred
Speaker 1: percent sure what Travis Frederick is going to be exactly
Speaker 1: did we undersell that? I mean, all the reports on
Speaker 1: Travis have been no, no. He I had saw him
Speaker 1: at the Mudbug Bash last week and he was very
Speaker 1: positive about everything. I mean himself. He's always positive though,
Speaker 1: he is very but he's fine. Travis is fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So until we have Connor Williams questions or do we
Speaker 1: have Lyle Collins questions, we don't like to move around,
Speaker 1: but I'll tackles. Are there any tackles there? Doga corojuiced,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. So I like my guests, is
Speaker 1: that I think that's early. I think the pick would
Speaker 1: if you're picking an offensive, I'm here's I think it's
Speaker 1: McGovern seven second America, not Man of the Year, he's Manville.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say a single word about the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titans record against the Indianapolis Coat because I was a Puna,
Speaker 1: and there's no reason for me to talk about them
Speaker 1: like that. Being said, we did not punt much against
Speaker 1: the Tennessee. Being said, the Indianapolis coaches are the hottest team,
Speaker 1: not only in the AFC South, but the entire NFL.
Speaker 1: Hey young nucleus surround the Nerd Andrew look. Two old
Speaker 1: pros were drafted last year. Turn this year. Hey, with
Speaker 1: the eighty ninth pick of the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the indian Out plus coats Jim Marsay and Chris Ballard
Speaker 1: select future Hall of Famer linebacker Prom Stanford. Bobby Oh crikey, Oh,
Speaker 1: put batman in the Monday night football booth. Oh, Bobby
Speaker 1: pretty great? Put him somewhere else. Wow, last thought, he's
Speaker 1: making a pick in the NFL draft. It's the third round.
Speaker 1: I don't need you up there for a hundred especially
Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out O the King of just
Speaker 1: make the pick. But that was awesome, y'all like that one? Yeah? Dan,
Speaker 1: you have anything on Bobby ookureki Uh. He has a
Speaker 1: length that really makes a lot of offensive tackles. Jails
Speaker 1: thirty four and a half inch arms for a linebacker.
Speaker 1: It's silly Uh, senior captain. Coaches talking really highly about
Speaker 1: his intangibles. Uh, he's a guy who's productive, uh, almost
Speaker 1: a hundred tackles the last two years. A guy that's
Speaker 1: played a lot of different spots and needs to get better.
Speaker 1: Even though he has that length, he's you get better
Speaker 1: taken on blocks. But he has the place, be the length,
Speaker 1: the intelligence that you want in the position. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be a nickel linebacker, special teamer. I think you'd develop
Speaker 1: into more. Okay, Bobby Okariki, I had him kind of
Speaker 1: that same same area of the draft with Taki Taki. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we kind of if you look at our one oh
Speaker 1: five three board, we had Taki Taki Okareki right in
Speaker 1: that area. That was probably around the right round the
Speaker 1: fifth round, so a little early for us. There about
Speaker 1: a round a round, right, Okay. Picks in for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys we've seen in the war room. Yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: in for a while. We got Mark Colombo came in
Speaker 1: and gave Jim McGovern Yeah, that's what makes the most
Speaker 1: Bobby Evans, Connor mcgonny and to announce a pick will
Speaker 1: be right. I believe this is ray Field right, If
Speaker 1: I'm not mistake let's go to podium. I hope too
Speaker 1: Tall announced the d tackle and Ray fild Right's gonna
Speaker 1: announce an offensive line. Sure that's not Troy, You're not wrong.
Speaker 1: Time to turn out the life baby. How about them
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys? All right? Don't Raphael right? Come on? I
Speaker 1: love it, but not in big In the twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: NFL draft, Well, the Dallas Cowboys selection is Calmer McGovern,
Speaker 1: guard from Penn State. Yeah. Connor McGovern. Okay, this is uh,
Speaker 1: check your Jeff, check your microphone. You might have popped
Speaker 1: yourself off there there, No, I'm on Hello, Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, Dane. Anybody want to talk about
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern here. I played both center and guard at
Speaker 1: Penn State. He has that versatility that you're looking for. Uh. Sometimes,
Speaker 1: what I had trouble with the Connor McGovern he'd forget
Speaker 1: his feet at times, and he'd rely on his upper
Speaker 1: body and now get him off balance. He'd start leaning.
Speaker 1: That's where things kind of broke down. But when he
Speaker 1: kept blockers or when he kept defenders in front of him,
Speaker 1: he was able to tie him up and shut him down.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot to like about him. Mostly that
Speaker 1: versatility that that's key because he could be interchangeable anywhere
Speaker 1: you want on the interior. We had him as a
Speaker 1: third round player on our board. We had him as
Speaker 1: the top offensive lineman if they were going to go
Speaker 1: that route left on our board. So hard to be
Speaker 1: upset with that one. For me, I saw a better
Speaker 1: run blocker than pass protector at this point for him.
Speaker 1: But a guy that's played center and guard makes me
Speaker 1: wonder if Connor Williams might be a right tackle year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what's if that's your best offensive lineman available and
Speaker 1: you believe in having that year long term plan. I
Speaker 1: can get behind that pick. I could totally understand that pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a third round graded player for us going at
Speaker 1: the end of the third round there and nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that, which and I just I just tweeted this.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad pick. It is curious
Speaker 1: because of everything we just said. And if that's the case,
Speaker 1: if you if you're planning to move Connor, what's this
Speaker 1: guy gonna do in the meantime, Or if you're gonna
Speaker 1: move Connor right now, what's Connor going to do in
Speaker 1: the meantime? You know, Like I mean, I think sounds
Speaker 1: like a great pick in twenty twenty. But that's it
Speaker 1: mean right now, I think this is more about a
Speaker 1: pick in twenty. I think this is they're drafting for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Yeah, well, this pick I think is for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty because I'm gonna be your game day and
Speaker 1: active for the next seventeen weeks. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll do that with him. Might be
Speaker 1: Joe Looney might have a situation on this, Yeah, Joe Looney,
Speaker 1: who played sixteen games for you last for saving our season,
Speaker 1: Joe getting Oh no, exactly. But I think with Connor
Speaker 1: mcgoverned here, you know, I remember this very well. I
Speaker 1: remember Drew Fabrianage coming by my desk and this was
Speaker 1: well well back in January, and he's like, hey, you
Speaker 1: need to take a look at this Connor Connor mcgoverned,
Speaker 1: you need to take a look at him. We really
Speaker 1: like him. He's a got tough guy, physical guy, plays
Speaker 1: a couple of positions. And I think Daney and I
Speaker 1: I think you and I looked at film to other
Speaker 1: about him, and you know I did. I agree with
Speaker 1: Dane a little bit. I think the guy gets a
Speaker 1: little over extended at time. But I do think he
Speaker 1: gets the second level and I think he's got some power.
Speaker 1: I think he's got some strength. But I mean to me,
Speaker 1: I just I think that they're kind of looking at
Speaker 1: Joe Looney being on the last year's deal maybe and
Speaker 1: maybe that it's like they want to move on. But
Speaker 1: this could be Connor McGovern sits for a year, gets stronger.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't have to play him anywhere, and
Speaker 1: he might be be a backup center, you know, if
Speaker 1: something happens again. You guys brought up the thing with
Speaker 1: Travis freg even though talking to Travis Frederick for a
Speaker 1: long time last week, he feels good, ready to go.
Speaker 1: Zatons never missed a game. This is a This is
Speaker 1: a situation where all of a sudden, Connor McGovern is
Speaker 1: playing left guard and then Connor Williams is playing right
Speaker 1: tackle because Lyle Collins is gone, and it gives you
Speaker 1: a chance to get Connor McGovern maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: more stronger, develop him a little bit and then go
Speaker 1: go from there. This might be the highest rated guy
Speaker 1: on their board at the time. Yeah, you know that
Speaker 1: that could be very well. The case that we're atine
Speaker 1: he was. He's my eighty fourth player, So yeah, I
Speaker 1: would not be surprised at all if he was their
Speaker 1: highest graded player At this point. It's just hard to
Speaker 1: get five guys in a room covering the draft to
Speaker 1: go yes when you pick an offensive linemen. We saw
Speaker 1: that happen in Atlanta. Now, Atlanta took a guy that
Speaker 1: I would have gone, what they took U with McGarry,
Speaker 1: I would have what, yeah, what? But yeah, this guy,
Speaker 1: I think it's got some versatility to him. I think
Speaker 1: he's got some toughness to him. I just kind of
Speaker 1: see this as one of those things. And I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to blow smoke up everybody's rear here. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying they're kind of thinking about what's going to happen
Speaker 1: with this offensive line, you know, money wise. I mean
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make some decisions on that. I mean,
Speaker 1: kudos to them for, you know, keep throwing resources at
Speaker 1: your offensive line. I mean, it wasn't that good by
Speaker 1: their standards last year? Right, Um? Okay, So that's that's it.
Speaker 1: It's funny because it's it's the dichotomy of the draft.
Speaker 1: You know, Like at pick fifty eight, a lot of
Speaker 1: people think maybe they reached for Tristan Hill here, maybe
Speaker 1: they take the best player available. Certainly looks like it
Speaker 1: not a drastic position of need, still not exciting, and
Speaker 1: they well, yeah, like it's almost like you can't win.
Speaker 1: You're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
Speaker 1: Like it's a smart pick that makes sense, that might
Speaker 1: not help you in twenty nineteen verse a guy that
Speaker 1: you might maybe reached for it earlier. You guys made
Speaker 1: some really passionate arguments for taking the corner from the
Speaker 1: University of Houston. I would I'd rather have McGovern than
Speaker 1: Isaiah Johnson. McGovern's rated higher on my board. Mine too,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think what are we doing? Are we
Speaker 1: are we talking about? Are we talking about making a
Speaker 1: shift in our defense and the way we do things?
Speaker 1: Or are we just are we doing it? That's my question.
Speaker 1: I think that they're talking about it. I think they're
Speaker 1: talking about it and they're not sure. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they're I think they're in just the way they want
Speaker 1: to play defensive, the longer corners and things like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because there's a big difference in three inches you starting
Speaker 1: about one inch, I you know, three inches a big difference.
Speaker 1: These were the this similar picks at different positions, right, Like,
Speaker 1: you don't need a cornerback right now, but you're thinking
Speaker 1: toward the future. If you can't bring back Byron Jones,
Speaker 1: you don't need an offensive line, have a ton of
Speaker 1: money tied up in your offensive line. Think about this
Speaker 1: the same way you think about all this stuff Millie Collins,
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, Anthony Brown, Lyle Collins, Yle Collins, and Joe Loody.
Speaker 1: It is. It's the same thing as what we're thinking
Speaker 1: about corner where Byron and Anthony Brown have one year left,
Speaker 1: except here we're just talking about Lyle Collins. And I
Speaker 1: think if you're in that room and you're wondering how
Speaker 1: to address it, If I look at the offensive tackles
Speaker 1: on our board and say, hey, guys, what what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do a year from now, my answer, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the board and going, oh, I don't know
Speaker 1: a card. What if we have a guard on our team,
Speaker 1: they could play tackle bang. Problem solved. Let's go pick
Speaker 1: now player in the interest of him being as good
Speaker 1: as possible. Do you consider moving Connord now you've got
Speaker 1: Davier Suaphilo, I'd take what now? Now? We're gonna get
Speaker 1: wild here, and I'll get wild with you. I would
Speaker 1: is he a backup center? I would flip Lyle Collins
Speaker 1: and Connor Williams today and let Lyle Collins play out
Speaker 1: his last year as a left guard where I've seen him.
Speaker 1: I believe we're gonna give him on the call here
Speaker 1: in a minute, We're gonna get him on the call
Speaker 1: Jets pick or whatever. Now that's okay, we'll keep talking here.
Speaker 1: We keep talking. Yeah, we'll just keep talking about this
Speaker 1: because we're it's it. You're looking at this and you're saying, okay,
Speaker 1: I think this is a move, and then the USC
Speaker 1: tackle and doga is that we say it? It's gone
Speaker 1: to the Jets there, So we've Pipkins went to Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've had a couple of offensive linemen actually go here.
Speaker 1: Uh so this pick is ninety two? It is that
Speaker 1: to the Jets, right is or is that ninety three?
Speaker 1: Which ninety three? That's ninety two for the Jets. They traded.
Speaker 1: They traded, Okay, so that's the Jets there at ninety two,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I think that to me, it's it's
Speaker 1: more about what they're thinking about with Lyle Collins that's well,
Speaker 1: and what they're I think that's where they're they're trying.
Speaker 1: They're they're getting a jump on this by getting a
Speaker 1: guard in here to learn and develop and get stronger,
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna kick Connor Williams to the outside,
Speaker 1: like just like they did Lyle Collins. But that's my
Speaker 1: point is, don't you want to give Connor Williams some
Speaker 1: time to adjust to playing tackle in the NFL? You
Speaker 1: think you, I mean, you think he'll be good if
Speaker 1: you move him there next march Man. We were evaluating
Speaker 1: him as a player at University of Texas playing left tackle,
Speaker 1: weren't we? Yeah? But we were? Did we? Did we
Speaker 1: bulk him up? Yeah? I mean go, yeah, question, I
Speaker 1: don't mind him being bigger and playing tackle. I mean yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean if if the Cowboys coaching staff he moved
Speaker 1: quicker in Lyle Collins, I promise, Oh yeah, I promise.
Speaker 1: An afterthought for twenty twenty though, right, But what I'm
Speaker 1: thinking is I'd be open to making that move today.
Speaker 1: Flip those two one thing I might killing to play,
Speaker 1: though maybe it wouldn't because what if Connor Williams. I'm
Speaker 1: playing pure hypotheticals here, Let's say Lyle Collins is much
Speaker 1: betterer than Connor Williams, and Connor Williams doesn't take a
Speaker 1: step and a Lile Collins, maybe you could get at
Speaker 1: a reasonable rate back. I'm saying he just has an average.
Speaker 1: You're like last year Connor Williams doesn't take that step.
Speaker 1: Maybe you might be interested in getting in, maybe just
Speaker 1: replacing Connor Williams with Connor McGovern. We're looking way ahead also,
Speaker 1: the quarterback. You're about to give thirty million dollars to
Speaker 1: his best friends with Le Collins. I think I think
Speaker 1: that's a good point. I think they're looking ahead to
Speaker 1: just overall their how they're gonna have to pay these guys,
Speaker 1: which nobody loves Lyle Collins more than I do. Right,
Speaker 1: he went to LSU. He's a good relationship in the
Speaker 1: locker room. But it's beyond obvious that they just can't
Speaker 1: afford to keep him here. You saw Um Brown, the
Speaker 1: New England tackle. Like I'm spacing on his first name.
Speaker 1: They just gave him seventy million in Oakland. Yeah, Lyle Collins.
Speaker 1: Tray Tray Brown, Yeah, Tray Brown got seventy million. Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins is going to get paid that's like, there's very
Speaker 1: little doubt in my mind. I don't think he's here
Speaker 1: next year. But that's interesting. Miles sport And by the way,
Speaker 1: we just went to the Baltimore Ravens. He couldn't wide
Speaker 1: receiver for Notre Dame. He couldn't be on the trade
Speaker 1: block now right, that's interesting. It's very interesting. I mean,
Speaker 1: and I made this. I made this very interesting. I
Speaker 1: made this call on Twitter, you know, when all that
Speaker 1: taco stuff went down, I said, you want to trade
Speaker 1: a real guy, traded Lyle Collins? Yeah, that'll get you something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're I mean, but we're late now, well, we're
Speaker 1: we're loaded. Don't think we're late. What would you give?
Speaker 1: What would you think? You can not saying we had
Speaker 1: we gotta trade him tonight, but we got a while.
Speaker 1: What do you have time? You're going you're talking about
Speaker 1: for next year's pick, right, can't? Yeah? If this team
Speaker 1: is supposed to take the next step, then I want
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins on the roster. That's just me, I mean,
Speaker 1: is it this? I mean, look, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: players that we liked. It did go off before you
Speaker 1: picked at ninety, but I mean, we're talking about trading
Speaker 1: the second round or a third round or whatever you
Speaker 1: could get for Alcohlins a fourth, would it be a fifth?
Speaker 1: But well what do you get? I was thinking a
Speaker 1: third round or contract third at this point. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think he still might be worth it, Like if a
Speaker 1: team with cap space that felt comfortable resigning him did
Speaker 1: the deal. Yeah. I mean he's good and he's worth it.
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks, he's talented. I think that will matter. Well,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I mean him and Daker are very tight.
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no, no, I'm just in a salary
Speaker 1: cap league. That can't matter. I I just this team
Speaker 1: is better if he's on it. Oh. I would use
Speaker 1: it as a negotiating tactic, Dak, how much do you like?
Speaker 1: It be interesting tonight the questions that are asked and
Speaker 1: how they answer the questions about this and what we'll
Speaker 1: get some clarity, Yeah, and we'll get hints. And I
Speaker 1: have a feeling that we're gonna get Connor Connor McGovern
Speaker 1: in here in a little bit on the phone and well,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll talk to him and maybe he's give
Speaker 1: us a little idea of what they've kind of talked
Speaker 1: to him about. I'm sure Mark Colombo made his way
Speaker 1: to state college, or had a chance to visit with
Speaker 1: him at the combine, and and and would go there.
Speaker 1: So it's Trent Brown, by the way, I think Trey
Speaker 1: Brown said Trey. I keep wanting to call him Troy
Speaker 1: because of the famous you know, giants selection is a
Speaker 1: giant star on the clock. This is going to be
Speaker 1: this will be the last pick before we get into
Speaker 1: the compensatory picks. That would be the Washington Redskins will
Speaker 1: lead that off. How about David Tyree. It will be
Speaker 1: the uh, the guy that's uh announcing the pick. This
Speaker 1: is three ninety five, and then uh, then we will
Speaker 1: get into the first of the compensatory picks. All those
Speaker 1: start in the third round. The red Skins at ninety six,
Speaker 1: New England at ninety seven, Jacksonville at ninety eight, the
Speaker 1: Rams at ninety nine, Caroline at one hundred, New England
Speaker 1: to get at one. O. Excuse me, I messed that
Speaker 1: up because the Rams too? Who does that too? Oh?
Speaker 1: I just god, We'll get there, but get there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't remind writing something. My guy Jacks del Rush.
Speaker 1: They passed on Josh Allen in the first round. They
Speaker 1: get O'Shane Zimmonez from Old Dominion. There you go, zimonezzimoneztion. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's welcome uh the newest member of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys to our program, to our draft coverage here
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot com and Wind oh five three.
Speaker 1: It's Connor McGovern. Connor welcome, congratulations, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here. Oh good, Hey listen, Okay,
Speaker 1: we saw a very happy Mark Colombo in the room
Speaker 1: the uh, the offensive line coach in the draft room
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. So first contact with Mark? Or was
Speaker 1: there something with the team that you had contact with before?
Speaker 1: Was this something at a pro day the combine? When
Speaker 1: did you really have some first contact with the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: This was my first contact tonight. Really wow wow? Yeah.
Speaker 1: So how did you feel when you saw that area
Speaker 1: code on your phone? I was relieved and I answered
Speaker 1: the phone and I was just so overly excited that
Speaker 1: that just everything went out on my head kinda and
Speaker 1: just still living in a surreal moment right now. So
Speaker 1: why did you find out on the phone? Are you
Speaker 1: a center? You guard? You a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: I'll see you when I get down there, they say,
Speaker 1: I think the versus stilly aspect's going to help out
Speaker 1: a lot. Connor is there, you know, and we've we've
Speaker 1: watched you, and every guy who's sitting here they're talking
Speaker 1: to you right now, has had the opportunity to sit
Speaker 1: down and watch you on tape and study you. And
Speaker 1: you know, everybody was very positive. We always felt like
Speaker 1: that you were of the lineman that were left, one
Speaker 1: of the best that could be available. And the cowboys.
Speaker 1: In fact, I thought thought this very same thing of you. Though.
Speaker 1: Is there a position though that you feel more comfortable?
Speaker 1: And I know you're gonna give me an answer. I
Speaker 1: could play any where you want me to play, but
Speaker 1: there's there's some spot that you you feel like, Okay, hey,
Speaker 1: if you watch my tape and me play it here,
Speaker 1: I kind of feel a little bit better about that.
Speaker 1: Or or how do you how do you go about that?
Speaker 1: Obno see wherever UH coach wants to put me at play?
Speaker 1: I have no polen play in any of five positions. Um,
Speaker 1: it's basically right down the line, very comfortable play any both.
Speaker 1: I like that setup of the whole communication aspect, but
Speaker 1: also I've had a lot of reps of guards I'm
Speaker 1: very comfortable either one Connor. It's interesting, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's draft night. It feels like it was yesterday, but
Speaker 1: it's been what five six years since the Cowboys drafted
Speaker 1: and Travis Frederick, Zach Martin. Uh. You know, coming up
Speaker 1: through high school and college, I have to imagine you
Speaker 1: have some type of impression of the Dallas O line
Speaker 1: and probably even maybe a little surreal getting a call
Speaker 1: from them. Just what's your your knowledge and experience of
Speaker 1: the guys down here. I know, since I got in
Speaker 1: the college, always watching the Cowboys O line just because
Speaker 1: they're depinnacle like everyone to be like everyone wanted to
Speaker 1: be like them. Then they got a Zikuel Elliott and
Speaker 1: basically just running over defenses in the league, and so
Speaker 1: just watching them and kind of molding my game, and
Speaker 1: as an old line at Pensay would watch them just
Speaker 1: how well they played, as a union of their chemistry,
Speaker 1: just everything was perfect. What's more fun protecting the passer
Speaker 1: or run blocking? Um? I love them both, but I
Speaker 1: love putting a guy on his back. So I'd say
Speaker 1: run run blocking? Nice? What do you know? Go ahead? No? No,
Speaker 1: I had a silly question. You go ahead, Well, what
Speaker 1: do you know about Texas, Connor, Uh, Texas. I've only
Speaker 1: been the Texas once in my life. That was for
Speaker 1: the Army. All American bull bachelot senior year high schoo Well,
Speaker 1: I don't really know much about that. What's your favorite movie,
Speaker 1: favorite movie all time? Yeah? Uh, Step Brothers. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: fit right in. Welcome to perfect Okay, well listen, Connor,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time to see me,
Speaker 1: and congratulations to you. All. All the guys that you're
Speaker 1: talking to tonight will be at your mini camps, be
Speaker 1: locker around you. You'll learn to hate us, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: But we'll we'll be happy to come. We'll be comp
Speaker 1: we'll we have to come up and shake your hand
Speaker 1: and introduce ourselves. So akin look forward to see you
Speaker 1: down here and again congratulation you and uh, we'll see
Speaker 1: you down the road. Okay, thank you very much. I
Speaker 1: appreciate Let's go to karate and the garage. Connor, Yeah
Speaker 1: he heard it. I'm sure, I'm sure. Yeah, Connor McGovern
Speaker 1: right there, the newest member of the Dallas count Okay,
Speaker 1: we're now into the compensatory. I think we are. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're at pick ninety six thirty two sixty four nineties.
Speaker 1: This would be the last pick before the competition. No,
Speaker 1: I think we're in. I think we're in now. I
Speaker 1: think this is the Buffalo Bills. And let's go. We'll
Speaker 1: go to the podium. Now we again, we've got these
Speaker 1: compitsory picks. Let's go to the podium and kind of
Speaker 1: catch her breath a little bit. Hello, Nashville, this is
Speaker 1: Harol LeBlanc. She is a thirty three years season ticket
Speaker 1: holder for the Buffalo Bill. She is here to make
Speaker 1: the selection with ninety six pick in the two nineteen
Speaker 1: NFL's ramp the Buffalo Bill. Slack Dawson, Oh my guy, Well,
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox finally off of the Bills, might want to
Speaker 1: get themselves a tight end. Well, that makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense for them to go get a good pass
Speaker 1: catcher with great hands. Oh, such a good route runner too. Okay,
Speaker 1: stretches the fielding so fast. He's so underutilized. He's so
Speaker 1: damn good. Why did he only catch thirty nine balls.
Speaker 1: He's not a he's not a blocker, and he played
Speaker 1: in that crappy offense. He's got he's got a lot
Speaker 1: of potential. We'll all agree on that. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of potential for Dawson. We were all we were all
Speaker 1: very critical of watching the tape of him, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Katie went back at one night
Speaker 1: and got him a bottle of whiskey, yea, some Balconi's whiskey,
Speaker 1: and sat down and started watching Dawson Knox. You can
Speaker 1: talk about some of the things. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you just kind of thumbnailed some traits, but what really
Speaker 1: made you change your mind about the players? Well, you
Speaker 1: don't see a ton of um. You don't see a
Speaker 1: ton of production because they didn't throw it to him much.
Speaker 1: He's not a blocker. I'm not trying to I'm not.
Speaker 1: He's more of a big wide receiver type of guy.
Speaker 1: But what I saw. What I saw is that it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a situation where they do try to
Speaker 1: throw it to him and he might be covered, and
Speaker 1: he just makes this catch with his hands. He started
Speaker 1: snatching it in the catch radius right, and then you
Speaker 1: start seeing him get separation the outward break, you know,
Speaker 1: after taking a linebacker up the field or taking a
Speaker 1: safety up the field. I just think he's a guy who,
Speaker 1: if used correctly, could be very effective. Okay, we'll go
Speaker 1: to the podium with the Rams making their selection. Hey,
Speaker 1: Bobby Heavans, sorry about that, Kyler Murray both of his
Speaker 1: tackle Yeah, Bobby Evans, I think you know, honestly, I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys were looking at Bobby Evans as well.
Speaker 1: Backup plan there. Yeah, this was this was the thing.
Speaker 1: When it with with Connor McGovern and Bobby Evans. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of getting a little bit whispers. Those were a
Speaker 1: couple of names that were would potentially be on the
Speaker 1: clock for the Cowboys to consider. So Bobby Evans, he
Speaker 1: is uh the offensive tackle uh Uversity, Oklahoma, and he's
Speaker 1: going to the Los Angeles Rams. Why's our guy Drew
Speaker 1: Semia is still on the board. You know what someone's
Speaker 1: going to get a heck of a player is Bobby
Speaker 1: Evans from Allen. Yeah. Yeah, So Allen, Texas just had
Speaker 1: three players taken in the first three rounds of the draft. Correct,
Speaker 1: Holy well they got like eight thousand kids at that school. Yes,
Speaker 1: we do have about eight thousand kids at that school.
Speaker 1: There's a reason we win. Maybe you divide that thing
Speaker 1: up a little bit. So Jacksonville is now on the clock.
Speaker 1: We're again in the competititory phase of the draft. This realized. Sorry, Brian,
Speaker 1: no no problem. Cowboys drafted Tristan Hill, so you got
Speaker 1: your prediction right. They went offense and defense, so I
Speaker 1: whipped again. I said they would move, and they hung
Speaker 1: tight twice. You know what they tried to move, Dave
Speaker 1: was er. I think they honestly tried. I'm over two.
Speaker 1: Here see let's go the podium and Josh Scoby let
Speaker 1: a kicker. They're up today. The Jacksonville Jaguars select Quincy Williams,
Speaker 1: linebacker Murray State, Murray States. Ain't those some Murray State.
Speaker 1: He's not familiar. He's small, I mean he's he's just
Speaker 1: a little guy, but he flies around the field. Um,
Speaker 1: that's surprised to see him in the top one hundred picks.
Speaker 1: I thought he had a chance to be a Day
Speaker 1: three pick, and here we are in the top one hundred.
Speaker 1: He makes it an appearance, but uh, tested pretty well.
Speaker 1: But again he's a smaller player. I know some teams
Speaker 1: are even looking at him as a safety. So it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how the shiom me some measurables
Speaker 1: on him. Do you have any in front him? Five
Speaker 1: ten and a half, I saw go ahead, Dan, Sorry, No,
Speaker 1: I've got to look him up. I don't know him
Speaker 1: off Handka on TV they flashed five ten and a half. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you're right. He is a shorter guy that people
Speaker 1: talk out. Maybe play him as a safety with Jack
Speaker 1: Sinville loves those fly round linebacker defensive They got two
Speaker 1: twenty five round of four or five six at his
Speaker 1: pro day. All right, so this is the linebacker. We're
Speaker 1: at number ninety nine with the third round again, we've
Speaker 1: got the Buccaneers now their pick is in. It's Carolina,
Speaker 1: the Rams again and in Baltimore to end the night,
Speaker 1: and they get us ready for the scouts day tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh so that would be that's we got our guy.
Speaker 1: That's why we got our buddy Dane Brugler sitting to
Speaker 1: our right here because he's gonna hammer these kids tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But exciting day again. The Cowboys will have two picks
Speaker 1: in that round, the fourth round, so we will be
Speaker 1: here to cover it wall to wall for you and
Speaker 1: finish this thing out. Uh, it will be with you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Can I can I ask you a question because rob Us,
Speaker 1: I think I think you are way more in on
Speaker 1: getting the runner don't you feel much better if Travin
Speaker 1: Williams were to Slider or whoever it maybe Jalen Moore,
Speaker 1: I know, is your guy from Appalachian State. Don't you
Speaker 1: feel way way better about getting a runner in the
Speaker 1: fourth round than the thirdh Yeah, I mean I wanted
Speaker 1: to runner the third I did. I mean I was
Speaker 1: because Trevion Williams is kind of my pet cat guy too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we gotta, we gotta tough it through four
Speaker 1: more picks, but he's still out there. Yeah, well we'll see.
Speaker 1: We know they like the Pollard kid. Yeah that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything. Here goes. They just drafted a kid they'd
Speaker 1: never talked to. So yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, you were
Speaker 1: letting go of the visit list. You were right. There's
Speaker 1: other players and buccaneers at the podium. Sorry, Okay Field. Sorry.
Speaker 1: With the nine and ninth pick and a two thousand
Speaker 1: and nineteen NFL draft the top of a book in
Speaker 1: the select Mike dB Kentucky, Mike Edwards safety from Kentucky.
Speaker 1: We talked about the other night, good player. What or
Speaker 1: they productive? Damn? What were they? What the big defensive
Speaker 1: banks in Kentucky? I mean all of the years. All right,
Speaker 1: KT you kind of, you know, being a little snarky
Speaker 1: about him, But talk about Mike Queens Johnson. I don't
Speaker 1: like Mike Edwards as much as you guys do. So
Speaker 1: there's there's my issue, okay. But I think I probably
Speaker 1: had problems with safety on tape like I always did,
Speaker 1: because safeties can get boring quickly. Dane was going somewhere
Speaker 1: with Mike Edwards. It's a really productive player, over three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty tacks over his career, double the interceptions.
Speaker 1: He was being dinged up with injuries over the pre
Speaker 1: draft process, so we need to get a chance to
Speaker 1: see him a lot at the combine and things like that.
Speaker 1: But just a productive player. Who I mean, it doesn't
Speaker 1: always look pretty, but I thought he was a reliable tackler,
Speaker 1: thought he could hold up in coverage. I think he's interchangeable,
Speaker 1: can can do a lot of things. So at this
Speaker 1: point with a safety group, um, you know, we're getting
Speaker 1: down to some of these names that I think Mike
Speaker 1: Edwards he fits nicely in the top one hundred. Chauncey Gardner,
Speaker 1: Johnson turned off a lot of teams maybe you know
Speaker 1: the world that was one of those things, and you know,
Speaker 1: we we had he came into the visit here and
Speaker 1: you know he's a chip on the shoulder guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. And then and you know he kind of
Speaker 1: some those mighty kids that there's a reason why, you know,
Speaker 1: they could back it up. A lot of those kids
Speaker 1: can back it up. But we'll see again he's he's
Speaker 1: one of those guys I kind of had up on
Speaker 1: the board and now he's he's slide through this draft
Speaker 1: as we speak. So Carolina pick is in at one
Speaker 1: hundred and the next pick is the New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: Can I put in the weird Rams? Now? Oh? The
Speaker 1: Rams are at which one? The Rams have the Patriots
Speaker 1: pick at one on one? I believe pots we're not updated.
Speaker 1: That's okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay, okick. So that's right,
Speaker 1: that's right. I'm sorry about that. As they traded it
Speaker 1: by they got it back, that pick went to the
Speaker 1: that pick went to New England, went to it went
Speaker 1: from he took it back to the Rams. And now
Speaker 1: it's it's like one o two. Their show in their
Speaker 1: show in Minnesota is on the clock at one o two.
Speaker 1: I can't keep any I'm trying to keep up myself
Speaker 1: here as we speak. I thought I saw a New
Speaker 1: England pick coming up. I was gonna put in the
Speaker 1: Will Greer call for New England before the night was over.
Speaker 1: Now Minnesota one o two, and then the Patriots are
Speaker 1: still a one on one. Right, I could have sworn
Speaker 1: the rams. They're saying, Minnesota, we haven't seen the Carolina pick.
Speaker 1: We're gonna figure it out and maybe yeah, it says
Speaker 1: New England is next. New England has the next pick
Speaker 1: at one oh one, and I'm putting in the Will
Speaker 1: Greer call. Okay, takers, Uh how much dollar? Well, I
Speaker 1: can't discuss the amount right here on Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: comentary millions of people, even though we got wind Stars
Speaker 1: one of our major sponsors. So yeah, I'm willing to
Speaker 1: bet the Greers off the board to Carolina. Okay, katinsk tip,
Speaker 1: Kim stays tipping. I'm not tipping. I got family in Carolina.
Speaker 1: You're such a liar. I do. My dad's side are
Speaker 1: all from the Carolina live in Charlotte, um which county
Speaker 1: county outside I don't make it out there goes here?
Speaker 1: Shut your laptop? Are you? Are you? They're stretching it
Speaker 1: out for TV though this last night. Just do the draft,
Speaker 1: don't stretch it out. You know, I'm saying, who does
Speaker 1: the NFL network think like this crazy audience that they
Speaker 1: got to get maximum viewership at ten twenty on a Friday.
Speaker 1: They got us all here, don't they. We do this
Speaker 1: for a living, and the ones on Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: Com and by the way, fashion, we want to thank
Speaker 1: everybody around the world's listening. And there's a lot of folks,
Speaker 1: a lot of folks we love out there all over
Speaker 1: the country here in United States and then but also
Speaker 1: around the world that are huge cowboy fans that love
Speaker 1: the draft. I mean we talk to folks all the
Speaker 1: time about draft. Yeah, exactly, the you know, France and
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia and in England and you know, all over Germany, everybody, Mexico.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've got guys all over in Dallas, all
Speaker 1: over the country or the world. Excuse me them, We
Speaker 1: really really do appreciate you. So, okay, we're waiting for
Speaker 1: Carolina to have this pick. They are dragging this They're
Speaker 1: trying to get this thing to the bottom of the
Speaker 1: hour so they could get to their post post draft
Speaker 1: show and uh then go from there um. Anyway, Katie,
Speaker 1: you killed me with you're you're from Carolo. You ruined
Speaker 1: the conversation leading up to what are we to say? Okay, Katie,
Speaker 1: if it facted, it may not be in. They haven't
Speaker 1: made the pick. If it's Will Career. If it's Will Greer,
Speaker 1: you're in charge of the sky and report for Will Grim.
Speaker 1: I mean if people are tweeting it, like if if
Speaker 1: actual reporters or here, it is here, it is, let's
Speaker 1: pick this guy. Charles trying to maintain the illusion of mystery,
Speaker 1: You douche. We're trying to put in the call. Ask
Speaker 1: me that's good. Keep pounding, b keep pad um. I
Speaker 1: just want to say we've got it in for the
Speaker 1: North Caldina stop Carolina area. I do have time for
Speaker 1: my small town. Has Bill charged with my family? In
Speaker 1: two NFL draft, the Carolina put up the Caldina Powder
Speaker 1: select Will Career quarterback. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They needed a backup quarterback. We're talking about that Cam
Speaker 1: Newton coming off shoulder surgery. Uh, it's something that you
Speaker 1: needed right there. Will Greer's Jeff's guy. That is my guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my guy, Jeff. I don't think he has the arm
Speaker 1: strength of the other quarterbacks. But he's accurate and he's
Speaker 1: got touch, and I think that's something about that guy.
Speaker 1: I think every time that we talk about him, Dane
Speaker 1: mentions the words rhythm. He's a rhythm passer, where when
Speaker 1: he gets into that rhythm, I do. I think he
Speaker 1: has as good or better ball placement and overall accuracy
Speaker 1: as anybody in this class. Now, how often can you
Speaker 1: get a guy to come around on making some poor
Speaker 1: decisions over the course of a game. How well can
Speaker 1: you work with a guy on the way that he
Speaker 1: responds to pressure. But I think Will Greer, if you
Speaker 1: keep him clean, you're at the end of the third
Speaker 1: round here, I think he's got a chance to end
Speaker 1: up being an NFL starter. So I think I think
Speaker 1: that's a really good pick at this spot, because if
Speaker 1: you find a starter there at the end of the
Speaker 1: third round, as we know around here doing it at
Speaker 1: the end of the fourth round, you hit a gold mine.
Speaker 1: So I think that's a great pick. Connor McGovern's Twitter
Speaker 1: handle is Condor McGovern. I'm this guy sounds like he's
Speaker 1: got some personality to him. Yeah, I'm excited. Did you
Speaker 1: click on follow everybody on the Cowboys up. We're friends.
Speaker 1: Dan kind of talk us through a little bit about
Speaker 1: Will Greer as well, and you and you're one of
Speaker 1: those guys and rightfully so it's been critical a big
Speaker 1: twelve off of defenses. Is he a product of maybe
Speaker 1: some poor defense or is this guy really legitimate an
Speaker 1: outstanding player? There's things alike about him. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: like Jeff said, he's a rhythm passer, and when he
Speaker 1: finds that rhythm, he can be a deadly thrower, especially
Speaker 1: deep his deep ball Texas Longhorns to tell you about
Speaker 1: his deep ball. Yeah, he did a nice job in
Speaker 1: that game. But you know, I think he's a guy
Speaker 1: that you feel comfortable coming in as a backup and
Speaker 1: then you need him as a spot starter then okay.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what the Panthers are kind of
Speaker 1: looking at value of a quarterback that you can rely
Speaker 1: on if you need him to step in and start
Speaker 1: a game for you. And I think that's what you
Speaker 1: have in Will Greer. But the decision making it can
Speaker 1: be maddening at times. Too many prayers. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: throwing off his back foot, his momentum is going backwards,
Speaker 1: So there's too many things that scare me about Will
Speaker 1: Greer to everything. He's going to be a long term
Speaker 1: starter and have success at the next level. But he
Speaker 1: does enough where I feel pretty comfortable that I'd like
Speaker 1: to have him my quarterback room as my backup and
Speaker 1: a guy feel comfortable putting on the field if I
Speaker 1: needed him to, well, his teammate just with behind him.
Speaker 1: At to the New England Patriots, Yandi could Juiced the
Speaker 1: offensive tackle West Virginia, and so you get Will Greer highlights,
Speaker 1: and then you get could Juice highlights. Katie. You you
Speaker 1: were doing a lot of offensive line and stuff, So
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Couljuiced and what you saw
Speaker 1: with him could Juice. Pulling up my notes there, Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, six four almost six four and a half.
Speaker 1: I'll round up six five three twenty left tackle. I
Speaker 1: saw a pretty good athlete, actually a little top heavy
Speaker 1: sometimes and I can't get off balance a little bit.
Speaker 1: But you can see him the athleticism to get out
Speaker 1: and run a little bit. Yeah, and you have to
Speaker 1: do that at West Virginia in that offense, you might
Speaker 1: have to get and run. But sometimes it's like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of work in progress to this guy. You
Speaker 1: got the length, you got the size, you like the athleticism,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of balance issues. Okay, well, let's go
Speaker 1: to the final pick of the night. The Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: own it at three one o two oh. Great with
Speaker 1: the one hundred and second pick and the two thousand,
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Alexander Madison,
Speaker 1: running back Boise State. Alexander Madison. Alexander Madison, our runners
Speaker 1: still on the board, brought us for tomorrow. Absolutely, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: wee options yep. So Cheff, you you're Mike, You're iure
Speaker 1: mic for there we go, got it right there, idiot, Okay,
Speaker 1: so we got Dane. If you would tap us out
Speaker 1: for the night. Here with this pick made by the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, Ali Sander Madison, the running back from Boise State,
Speaker 1: good sized runner, five eleven, two hundred twenty pounds, physical,
Speaker 1: refuses to go down. I don't think there's anything special
Speaker 1: about his athletic profile. But he runs with energy, runs
Speaker 1: with determination, and he can help you as a as
Speaker 1: a pass catcher out of the backfield. He's he's also
Speaker 1: one of the youngest players in this draft, not yet
Speaker 1: twenty one years old. So he's been productive at Boise State.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I don't think there's anything special
Speaker 1: about this player, but he's just he could be a solid,
Speaker 1: reliable guy, right, really steady player. Okay, before we get
Speaker 1: out of here, I'm like leave this thing in the
Speaker 1: bottom of the hour. We got about four minutes to
Speaker 1: kind of do some things that we need to do.
Speaker 1: I want do you want to play the Connor McGovern
Speaker 1: secret audio. So again he told us this was his
Speaker 1: first time he had some contact with the Cowboys, so
Speaker 1: this ought to be some fun. Let's go to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: will McClay with the cowboys? Have somebody wants to speak
Speaker 1: to you, all right, this is Jones what the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: How are you doing, sir? Hey, Connor, We're proud to
Speaker 1: call you and tell you you are now Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate that. Boy. Are
Speaker 1: you joining hell acious offensive line? And it's well, it's
Speaker 1: a compliment without these guys. Thank of you now, I
Speaker 1: mean it's a compliment, sir. Congratulations, Connor, thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Our head coach wants to talk to you, sir, Connor. Yes,
Speaker 1: how you doing? Congratulations? Man, Thank you very much. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're awfully excited to draft you, to bring you to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. You got a chance to be a hell
Speaker 1: of a football player, and uh, thank you. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: You're absolutely what our team is all about. So can't
Speaker 1: wait to get you in here and get you to work.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to come down there. All right, congrats, all right,
Speaker 1: it's a great day. Thank you. You can hear the
Speaker 1: confusion at least kind of like, yeah, he sounded like
Speaker 1: you didn't completely believe what was going on. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: thinking who Jason Garrett was, because I don't think Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett ever said his name. It is kind of very covert.
Speaker 1: When Will McCleary goes Connor Cowboys someone Jones Jones Jones. Okay,
Speaker 1: as as we as we do finish the night here,
Speaker 1: I just kind of want to go around the room.
Speaker 1: We'll all be together here tomorrow again. It's the day
Speaker 1: of the Scouts that we like to talk, and everybody
Speaker 1: here will, uh well, we'll we'll put on a polo
Speaker 1: and go for it tomorrow and sir and really hunkered down.
Speaker 1: We got rounds four through seven tomorrow and we'll have
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to make this happen, She said, Polo.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at Kat over here about me. Cowboys
Speaker 1: Polo for tomorrow? Yeah, why not? That's we got to do.
Speaker 1: But I'll start with you, Jeff Kavanaugh, and uh and
Speaker 1: kind of give me some of your thoughts going in tomorrow. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, cowboy thoughts, general thoughts, your draft, look at
Speaker 1: your board, kind of see we set a little bit
Speaker 1: and catch your breath and tell me what you got. Uh.
Speaker 1: It hurts my heart a little bit that the NFL
Speaker 1: doesn't like Mack Wilson and I did as I still
Speaker 1: got an Alabama linebacker way up at the time. But
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, I think we've pointed this out multiple times.
Speaker 1: They are going to evaluate the players and pick the
Speaker 1: players that they like. So the Tristan Hill pick, for me,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be players that I preferred over him in
Speaker 1: that spot. But when you look at what they're trying
Speaker 1: to do, I totally get it because you've been telling
Speaker 1: us for months they're hunting undertackles. That's what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are doing. And I think they got to the point
Speaker 1: where he was much like Dave noted this, much like
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, to ye that they got him. He was
Speaker 1: their last undertackle, right, and I think that he was
Speaker 1: the last undertackle to a lot of people. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: has the ceiling of being a good pass rusher from
Speaker 1: the interior, So I understand that one. And then Connor
Speaker 1: McGovern being picked there. To me, that's no different than
Speaker 1: if they'd grabbed a corner and we'd have said, oh, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: Byron and Anthony Brown are about to be up, and
Speaker 1: the same thing. On the offensive line, it's just lyle Collins.
Speaker 1: You've got a guy on a team that's invested a
Speaker 1: lot in the offensive line that I don't think you
Speaker 1: can keep doing it with that many players, So you're
Speaker 1: probably gonna have to move on from one in a year.
Speaker 1: And he was right towards the top of our board
Speaker 1: when they picked him. So not a lot negative that
Speaker 1: you could say about that one, at least not where
Speaker 1: I sit. And tomorrow, just pick the best available players.
Speaker 1: There's guys that will have that are linked to the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: but they're not in a situation where they have a
Speaker 1: really pressing need. At this point, you're not going to
Speaker 1: update upgrade your box safety, I don't think so. Now
Speaker 1: we're just looking for guys that can make the team,
Speaker 1: that have long term prospects to be something, and probably
Speaker 1: a runner at some point to be Zeke's backup. David
Speaker 1: Hellman I said this earlier in the broadcast, but I
Speaker 1: think that's my lasting impression from tonight is you saw
Speaker 1: both sides of the draft strategy today. I think you
Speaker 1: know Tristan Hill could turn into a really good player.
Speaker 1: I don't dislike the pick at all, but I think
Speaker 1: it's fair to say maybe they reached a little bit
Speaker 1: to get a guy that they absolutely coveted, like Jeff said,
Speaker 1: he's the last guy, and then on the opposite end
Speaker 1: of the spectrum, they drafted a guy that they don't
Speaker 1: need this year because maybe he was the best player
Speaker 1: on their board. Maybe they're reading the tea leaves knowing
Speaker 1: that they're going to need him in the future. But
Speaker 1: that's both sides of the draft. Teams do things with
Speaker 1: need in mind, and then on the opposite side of that,
Speaker 1: you picked the best player available, regardless of how much
Speaker 1: you need him. I think I've probably said ten dozen
Speaker 1: times this spring that I thought that they were gonna
Speaker 1: stop gap this offensive line situation and worry about it
Speaker 1: next year. But if he was far and away the
Speaker 1: best option left on their board, and I can't argue
Speaker 1: that he was, then I think it's smart, very very
Speaker 1: much expected Hill to be the pick. Did not expect
Speaker 1: mc govern at all. But I can dig both of
Speaker 1: the picks, so feel pretty good about it. We've done
Speaker 1: this for years. I need my day too. By day two, guys,
Speaker 1: I need him to be starters. When you've built a
Speaker 1: roster as good as you have this team, and you
Speaker 1: look at the contracts, the way everything's working. They needed
Speaker 1: it this draft to get a starter last year with
Speaker 1: the Marie Coup for a game changer, and then they
Speaker 1: needed their round two and round three picks to be
Speaker 1: starters in twenty twenty, and that's what they got with
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill and likely what they have with Connor McGovern.
Speaker 1: So I think they succeeded there. Looking ahead quickly to tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You pick it one eighteen, you pick it one. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you pick it one. Twenty eight and one thirty six.
Speaker 1: I was trying to jump it up a little bit.
Speaker 1: Run twenty eight and one thirty six, backup, running back
Speaker 1: on your mind, maybe a little bit. I would like
Speaker 1: to add a tight into the mix. Personally, I love
Speaker 1: Dax Raymond every Yeah, Chauncey Gardner Johnson is a guy
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, they brought in, But as someone
Speaker 1: told me about a month ago, he's a better player
Speaker 1: than he is a person. Sure, so that's probably a
Speaker 1: reason why he's still on the board. Max Crosby out there,
Speaker 1: I know you have a lot of defensive ends, but
Speaker 1: someone that they've done a little work on, someone who
Speaker 1: I really like as a player. If you get him
Speaker 1: in the fourth to develop that, get him in the fourth,
Speaker 1: you would be pretty excited about that. So also, we
Speaker 1: always know that they're always going to draft a linebacker
Speaker 1: at some point. Okay, so Dane, I'm gonna catch you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We gotta hustle to a press conference right now. So again,
Speaker 1: I thank everybody out there for joining us. We will
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. Draft starts at ten am Central Am.
Speaker 1: I right about that, ten am Central, So yeah, just
Speaker 1: be hanging out with us ten am Central. So from
Speaker 1: like all my scout anyboddies, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us, guys, and we'll see tomorrow for Day three
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