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Speaker 1: You were two weeks about drive on your twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, how we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too. Our number two here on the Drive, Wes

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Speaker 2: Shooler and Matt Williamson with you on this Monday as

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Speaker 2: we continue the football talk here, Matt, President's Day, It's

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Speaker 2: I pulled up here. I was like, it's so quiet,

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Speaker 2: all the lights offer in the building.

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Speaker 3: I giggled myself a little. I'm like, oh, I forgot

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Speaker 3: it's a holiday. Even like my wife's works at a bank.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, are you work today President's da dude? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And I appointment, That's what.

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Speaker 2: That's one of those nice you know, like every holiday

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Speaker 2: basically other than July fourth, Thanksgiving and Christmas is like

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Speaker 2: I'm always like, man, it'd be nice to be in

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Speaker 2: the corporate world on a day like this. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but then again we still work Thanksgivings and Christmases at

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Speaker 2: all that.

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Speaker 3: But it didn't even like phase me. I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: guess we won't get mail today.

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Speaker 2: And okay, I was joking with TV last week. I

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Speaker 2: was like, I when I was growing up, like July fourth,

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Speaker 2: was fun. It was awesome, and fireworks in America and

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Speaker 2: all that, but it was just kind of like whatever.

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Speaker 2: Now I love July fourth because it's the only holiday

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Speaker 2: that I know that I'm gonna have time. It's the

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Speaker 2: only major holiday that we can really live it up, yes,

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Speaker 2: that we know we're gonna have multiple days off in

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Speaker 2: a row. Matt, we are coming off of the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: of course, won by the Seattle Seahawks. With that, NFL

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Speaker 2: dot Com posted there the teams with the biggest Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl windows heading into twenty twenty six, and they listed

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Speaker 2: seven teams.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I saw this headline. I didn't click on it,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know if they even preface it. And

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Speaker 3: this is just from someone that's written thousands of articles

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Speaker 3: for big sites in my life. I wonder there's two

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Speaker 3: ways I would look at this. As if my editor

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Speaker 3: sent me this note and said, Matt, give me the

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Speaker 3: seven biggest Superowl windows, I'd be like, do I want

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Speaker 3: the window that is open the widest right now, you know,

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Speaker 3: like Seattle, Or do I want the window that's going

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Speaker 3: to be open the longest, you know what I mean, like.

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Speaker 2: Like a Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Maybe theer should be the next three, four or five years.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if, like, before they start listing them, did

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Speaker 3: they preface this or not, Because again I'm just kind

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Speaker 3: of being a nerd. From the writer's perspective.

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Speaker 2: It's time to move past Super Bowl sixty with an

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Speaker 2: eye on the teams that could hoist the Lombardi Trophy

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Speaker 2: in the future. There's plenty of roster construction to still

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Speaker 2: be done before the season kicks off. The following seven

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Speaker 2: teams have a jump on the competition as title contenders.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it doesn't one hundred percent specify.

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Speaker 2: Because it does in the future.

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean. If he didn't have that phrase

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Speaker 3: in there, because it doesn't say I.

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Speaker 2: Think he means like in the future as in kind

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Speaker 2: of this coming season, not four years from.

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Speaker 3: Now, right, And I was also going to say not

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Speaker 3: for long. Definitely should be implied in this league, Like

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Speaker 3: the chances that anyone's gonna have a SUPERWL window more

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Speaker 3: than two or three years that you feel confident about

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Speaker 2: That's why the Chiefs thing is so rare. The Patriots

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Speaker 2: Brady thing is so rare. Yeah, that's why I was mad.

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Speaker 2: I was laughing, Like I know, I've told you this before,

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Speaker 2: and hey, they've been to three Super Bowls in what

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Speaker 2: the last eight years, which is about is what you

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Speaker 2: can hope for. But like when I was in Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: and the Eagles won that twenty eighteen Super Bowl, the

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Speaker 2: Foles and all that, they were selling T shirts like

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Speaker 2: always you know the TV show Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, every episode is titled the Gang something. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so the Gang steals the liberty Bell, the Gang solves

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Speaker 2: the homelessness problem, you know what I mean. Like they

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Speaker 2: a dynasty, you know, and like two years later they're

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Speaker 2: winning four games and you know, and again they've now

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Speaker 2: they've won two in multiple They've.

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Speaker 3: Been very successful franchise.

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Speaker 2: But even last year they were like, oh, we've thrown

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs and now it's our time to go to

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Speaker 2: a bunch of Super Bowls and you know, they're making

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Speaker 2: sweeping changes and oh yeah, NFL not for long. It's

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Speaker 2: very hard to do what the Chiefs just did. And

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Speaker 2: even with the Eagles having gone to three in the

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Speaker 3: Side note, I was at ESPN dot com for ten

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Speaker 3: years and when somewhere when it was downtime, they'd be like, Mac,

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Speaker 3: give me an article of position by position, who the

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Speaker 3: top five players are going to be. I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: It's three years from now or five years from now.

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Speaker 3: I hated it. Yeah, I'm like, the running backs are

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Speaker 3: all in One of the might be in high school,

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Speaker 3: and most of them all going to be in college.

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Speaker 3: I have no clue who they even are. Three of

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Speaker 3: the guys are going to blow out a knee between

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Speaker 3: now and then. At the top positions that you assume

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Speaker 2: Right, impossible. But these seven teams, I think there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of rhyme to the reason. And obviously we'll start

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Speaker 2: with the defending Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but as champions go the weekend after Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 3: I would take the field against them times a million. Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean they're not they I don't think they're set

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Speaker 3: up like some teams. We've seen the Chiefs in particular,

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Speaker 3: where they win their first and it's like, oh, they're

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Speaker 3: gonna be here, no doubt, no doubt about it. I

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Speaker 3: mean they lost an offensive coordinator, their quarterbacks a good player,

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Speaker 3: but he's not a superstar, special, no brainer hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: The division, right, Yeah, yeah, top division is a great

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Speaker 2: point too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's didn't play first race schedule, you know,

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Speaker 3: and the things will be a lot tougher. They would

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Speaker 3: be the top of the list. But I don't think

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Speaker 3: that they're even the necessarily the odds on favorite to

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Speaker 3: win the super Bowl next year when when the rosters

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Speaker 2: Because the odds on favorite might be in their division.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the things Their biggest rival is gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be, and that's the team they have. Number two on

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Speaker 2: this list is the Rams.

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Speaker 3: And I trust, I love what's going on Seattle. If

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Speaker 3: it sounds like a bashing Seattle, I'm not at all.

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Speaker 3: I just trust McVeigh more than anybody out there.

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Speaker 2: It'd be if Seattle had a Matthew stat And this

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Speaker 2: is again, what Sam Darnold just did was crazy impressive.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the run that he just had in the

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Speaker 2: and act like he's got Matt Stafford Cachet or Mahomes

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Speaker 3: Turn into a pumpkin. Still, sure those guys won't.

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Speaker 2: I'm not betting on Donald turning.

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Speaker 3: Into but crazy things happen.

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Speaker 2: He also might not be able to be the high

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Speaker 2: tide that lifts all boats when you lose a couple

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if we're looking at it for years down

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Speaker 3: and Jigba and Witherspoon. I mean you draft those guys

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Speaker 3: a pricey off season. You know, It's it's just not

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Speaker 2: It's you know, it's easy to serve, easier to survive

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Speaker 2: losing Tyreek Hill and Sammy Watkins and Kareem Hunt and

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, the Rams at number two, I completely understand. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we know Stafford's coming back, so maybe it's only one

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Speaker 2: more year for them that this windows wide open. But

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Speaker 2: that window is wide open.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you throw two first round picks first rounds, right? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Number three the runner up New England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see that. I think they still have

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Speaker 3: a lot of holes and by no one's lucky to

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Speaker 3: get to the super Bowl. But a first play schedule

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Speaker 3: is going to change their world. A lot LABS always

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Speaker 3: talks about, you know, these teams that go from like

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Speaker 3: worse to first all of a sudden, You're playing five

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Speaker 3: primetime games and you're not rested when you get home

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Speaker 3: at four am. It's different when you play one or

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Speaker 3: two on Thursday night. You know, a long week to relax.

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Speaker 3: You know, like it's just a little tougher being the

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Speaker 3: hunted and you're not picking third in the draft again

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Speaker 3: or fourth or whatever. You're picking thirty first and you

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Speaker 3: don't have the most cap space in the league. I

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Speaker 3: love their future. I just don't know that I'll even

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Speaker 3: pick him to go to the playoffs next year. I

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Speaker 3: think Lamarin, Burrow and Allen and Mahomes are still roaming

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Speaker 2: You know, you start with Rabel and Drake May. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of reason for optimism there. But but you're right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Diggs is back for one more year under contract,

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Speaker 2: he just did. And then kay Sean Booty is entering

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Speaker 2: lot of help. The Bills are still in that division,

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Speaker 2: They're not going away.

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Speaker 3: Uh, they could be on this list, you know.

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Speaker 2: And Chiefs improving potential for the Ravens and the Bengals

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, you just know that there's big time quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Big time Uh. Number four on this list and this

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Speaker 2: Of the seven Philadelphia Eagles, Number four.

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Speaker 3: I just bad vibes.

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Speaker 2: And I Matt I said this two years ago that

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Speaker 2: I felt like it was unraveling in Philadelphia and then

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Speaker 3: But I've been such a roller coach these last three years.

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Speaker 2: I worked for that organization for three years. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And my in laws and my wife are all die

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Speaker 2: hards and season ticket holders, and I'm very kind of

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Speaker 2: tapped into that. It's volatile, it's volatile, it's their coach.

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Speaker 3: This great stabilizer to deal with volatility or the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's Google and Apple and stocks that

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Speaker 2: Amazon and they're not going anywhere, and they're they're not

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Speaker 2: gonna have a crazy jump on you, but they're not gonna.

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Speaker 3: In five years you made money.

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Speaker 2: But then there's there's some of these AI stocks and

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Speaker 2: companies like that that are more volatile. And yes, maybe

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Speaker 2: in a few months time you'll be doing jumping jacks

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Speaker 2: because you just turned your investment tenfold. Yeah, but maybe

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Speaker 2: it's gonna tank and you're gonna end up with nothing.

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Speaker 2: And I'm leaning towards the tank and end up with nothing.

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Speaker 2: With the Eagles, and I shouldn't say it up with nothing.

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Speaker 2: They've been to three super Bowls. Worth one. It's all

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Speaker 3: And ownership in GM will keep you in it for sure.

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Speaker 3: I still think there's four elite quarterbacks walking the planet

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Speaker 2: As we roll along here in our number two West

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Speaker 2: Sheeler Matt Williams and it's the Drive, Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your twos about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and goal Stealers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Rolling along here our number two of the Drive. On

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Speaker 2: and one week from our arrival in Indianapolis for a

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Speaker 2: fun week of combine coverage, Matt and I will have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people would be interested.

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Speaker 3: That next week, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Franchise tag candidates. The window opens tomorrow Tuesday for teams

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Speaker 3: Yes, but it's not as many as you think anymore.

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Speaker 3: Tight ends are of value to franchise.

439
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Speaker 2: Because the position value isn't crazy high.

440
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have mixed feelings on what I do with Pitts.

441
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 3: He is a weapon. He came on strong. He did

442
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 3: some really good work when Drake London was out, so

443
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 3: he could kind of showed that he could be somewhat

444
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:26,479
Speaker 3: of an alpha.

445
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 2: He had the second most receptions and receiving yards amongst

446
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,360
Speaker 2: tight ends this year.

447
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: I've said this often, but tight ends usually take a

448
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 3: little while to mature, so he could be hitting his

449
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 3: prime years. Very very talented. But the problem, and this

450
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 3: is a bigger conversation for another day, is everyone's trying

451
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 3: to get these tight end mismatches where and this is

452
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 3: why Pitts went in the top five is well, he

453
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 3: can't put a corner on him because he's too big,

454
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Speaker 3: and if you put a linebacker on him, he's too fast,

455
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. But there's been points of his

456
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 3: career where people just put a corner on him and

457
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 3: they do the job. Yeah, and he doesn't get away

458
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Speaker 3: from them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, it's interesting for Atlanta because they you

460
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: want to hold on to talented players if you're the Falcons.

461
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: But especially Pennix is gonna be your guy. You want

462
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Speaker 3: to make his life easy.

463
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Speaker 2: Yet you don't have the most cap space in the world,

464
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Speaker 2: and you don't have a first round pick, And it'll

465
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Speaker 2: be an interesting to see what they do there.

466
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Speaker 3: Franchising a tight end is not brutal on your.

467
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Speaker 2: Cap Bengals on this list with Trey Hendrickson, you and

468
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Speaker 2: I have talked about this a little bit, but he'd

469
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Speaker 2: make about thirty million dollars on the franchise tag, which

470
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Speaker 2: for him is fair. I think that's a fair value.

471
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Speaker 3: He probably will get that on the open market, if

472
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Speaker 3: not more.

473
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Speaker 2: But I just can't imagine him wanting to do that.

474
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Speaker 3: I mean, considering we've always gone through and basically having

475
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Speaker 3: a press conference on the sidelines the one last year,

476
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Speaker 3: and I kind of got the impression that when they

477
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 3: gave him this little bit of money, that there was

478
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Speaker 3: a handshake agreement, We're not going to franchise you let's

479
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: just get through this season and compete. They didn't compete

480
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 3: to the point of that, you know level. But the

481
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 3: Bengals don't like letting people walk for nothing. And if

482
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,479
Speaker 3: you franchise them, you might really piss him off. But

483
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 3: then maybe you flip them for a second round pick,

484
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 3: you know, at least get some power in the situation.

485
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 3: I wonder how they'll handle it.

486
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Speaker 2: Is that the same church, different Pew conversation with George

487
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 2: Pickens and the Dallas Cowboys.

488
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, except that one I think is definitely happening.

489
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: But he's gonna stay or they're going to try and

490
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 2: shop them.

491
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Speaker 3: No, I think he's going to be a cowboy.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

493
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Speaker 3: I think they will franchise him.

494
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Speaker 2: He'll get them right to extend them guaranteed pay day.

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And he, unlike Hendrickson, has not made a ton

496
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 3: of money yet by NFL standards, So the franchise tag

497
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 3: is guaranteed, folks. So if he had to play under

498
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: the franchise tag, it's still way more than he's ever

499
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Speaker 3: made in his life. For one season.

500
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Speaker 2: And the last time the Cowboys franchise tagged player Des

501
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Speaker 2: Bryant in twenty fifteen, they were able to get a

502
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 2: long term agreement with him done in that same window.

503
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're good and goods on's a really the

504
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: right word. One of the weaknesses I think of the

505
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: Cowboys is they give their own too much money. They've

506
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Speaker 3: done it several times throughout the careers of these guys

507
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 3: that get popular, so they probably aren't hesitating to spend

508
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Speaker 3: on Pickens.

509
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: The Colts two considerations Daniel Jones, of course, and wide

510
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: receiver Alec Pierce, who we've discussed plenty here on this program.

511
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: I think they're really interested in keeping Peers at any cost. Like,

512
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: by no means is he a top five receiver, and

513
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 3: that's what the rules imply for a franchise, But it

514
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: could be we just don't want you hit the open market.

515
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: We've got the cap space.

516
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 3: We got the capspace.

517
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: Don't have a first round pick, remember, because the Sauce

518
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: Gardner trade, So it's not right they can go and

519
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: draft the wide receiver in the first round.

520
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Speaker 3: We can talk contract during that stretch. I hope this

521
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Speaker 3: happens because maybe tomorrow will talk cut candidates. But Pittman

522
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 3: is a cut candidate, yes, And if they do the

523
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 3: Pierce route, I think he's almost guaranteed to be cut,

524
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Speaker 3: and I think Pittman would be a really nice number

525
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: two receiver here. I'd love to see him hit the

526
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Speaker 3: open market.

527
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: The Colts have only used the franchise tag once since

528
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, and it was on Michael Pittman two years ago.

529
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 3: As for Jones, I guess because of his injury, that

530
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: could just take some of the complications had it a little.

531
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Speaker 2: Bit more, but you don't have the long term risk.

532
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 3: And we could just which when you're healthy, we'll talk contract.

533
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: Feels fair for that parties. Honestly, Daniel Jones, you're gonna

534
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: get a little bit more money than you probably would,

535
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: but for us, we're going to get the long term

536
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: certainty that we're looking for.

537
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll talk about a real contract once I

538
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 3: know you're out of the woods medically. Maybe I can

539
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: understand that logic.

540
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: I guess two considerations here for the Jacks Jags if

541
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: we stay in the division. Devin Lloyd linebacker and I

542
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: love that guy coming out of Utah.

543
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

544
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 2: And Travis Etn junior running back.

545
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 3: He played well. He's better than people think. Like people

546
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: kind of thought he was an afterthought. Tooton never stepped up.

547
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 3: They are in it to win it. They were one

548
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 3: of those window teams. Lloyd's maybe a top five off

549
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: the ball linebacker. Now that's one they probably regret not

550
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 3: picking up the fifth year option.

551
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: That tag is projected to be over twenty eight million dollars,

552
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: which would be a lot to pay it off the

553
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: ball linebacker. That's like double what Patrick Queen's making if

554
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: you put it in that context.

555
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: The boy, he'll do well on the open market.

556
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: Yes he will. He man. He was so much fun

557
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: to watch at Utah and he had to cup that

558
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: up and down, you know first, but he is really

559
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: really blossomed. The La Chargers o'daffy O way outside linebacker

560
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 2: edge rusher.

561
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: Seems like a stretch. He was really good after they

562
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 3: made the trade for him. And he's coming into.

563
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: His own twenty eight million bucks.

564
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Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that's steep.

565
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know about that. He's twenty seven

566
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: years old, so if you could get him multi year deal.

567
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Speaker 3: You knew he was a project coming out of Penn

568
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 3: State and he didn't have a sack and you know,

569
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: but he was a monster combine guy. He's coming into

570
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 3: his own. That just seems like a.

571
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: Lot few for the Giants to consider here, right tackle

572
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: Germaine Illuminare, Corner Cordale Flat and wide receiver one Dale Robinson.

573
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: They're all nose.

574
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Speaker 2: I don't think, I mean, you're not gonna want to

575
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: pay him what you would have to Those are all

576
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: premium positions of tag money.

577
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 3: Those guys are all average starters.

578
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 2: Wide receiver and tackle projected to be north of twenty

579
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Speaker 2: five million. Corner north of twenty million.

580
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: ILLUMINOI kind of makes some sense, just because where am

581
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: I going to get my right tackle and give him

582
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Speaker 3: a one year deal.

583
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: Maybe you're overpaying a little bit, but it'sying your offensive

584
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Speaker 2: line on the.

585
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,959
Speaker 3: Other side, and I'm gonna maybe I'm gonna draft like

586
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Speaker 3: I gave him a wide receiver in the first round, and.

587
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: For Illuminor, I'd have thatation, but not just because you.

588
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: Hate to lose tackles on the market. But he's not

589
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: worth it.

590
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: No, none of them are New York Jets, Bressee Hall.

591
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you gotta have something.

592
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: Like I know that they're looking to the future and

593
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: their reset button, but still like you gotta have something.

594
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: Because the other thing too is like in their case,

595
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: the franchise Bressee Hall. Let's say you're one win at

596
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: the trade deadline, ship them to the Chiefs for a

597
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 3: third round pick or something. You know, like there will

598
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: be a market for him when you're terrible at the

599
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: trade deadline, and he might make a rookie quarterbacks like

600
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: he would make a rookie quarterbacks life easier. I don't

601
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: know if he'll go to the rookie quarterback.

602
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: Round two more here, both in the NFC West. Let's

603
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: start with the Niners because this one is less exciting

604
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 2: to talk about. Kicker Eddie Pinero, I believe is how

605
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 2: he pronounces his last name.

606
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: And it's no. Franchising kickers and punters is very easy

607
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: to pull off.

608
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: It'd be a six to seven million price tag, which

609
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: is a little high, but none of it. It's going

610
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: to break the bank.

611
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Speaker 3: Okay.

612
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: He made twenty eight of twenty nine field goals. The

613
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 2: only one he missed was a sixty.

614
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 3: Four yarder that's just coming off a year.

615
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: Then and then finally the Seattle Seahawks, not surprising. We've

616
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: mentioned this one before. Super Bowl MVP running back Kenneth Walker.

617
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I must mentioned that with Hall, but I figured

618
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: it he'd be coming up here. I think that's possibility.

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Speaker 3: You are trying to win. Now, he's a really good back.

620
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: Your other running backs coming off of an ACL tear.

621
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Speaker 3: Yeah, did they say what the number is for running back?

622
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: About fourteen and a half million.

623
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 3: Okay, it's just one year deal.

624
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: It's more than you'd want to pay, but it's not terrible.

625
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: Give him a ton of carries, run him in the ground,

626
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 3: probably send him on his way. You know, maybe draft

627
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: one the fourth round for next year.

628
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: You know, it makes a lot of sense. And I

629
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: just think there's like a and I know not everybody

630
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: operates this way, but there's like a good will element too,

631
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: of like, we got to bring our super Bowl MVP back, right,

632
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: You can't have this guy win super Bowl MVP for

633
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: you and then go somewhere else.

634
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: I mean, the fans would be like, yeah, we probably.

635
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: Just went out and bought a bunch of Kenneth Walker jerseys. Yeah,

636
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, we can't let our super Bowl MVP walk.

637
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: Come on, man, especially when our good back up towards

638
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: ACL in the playoffs and isn't gonna be is going

639
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: to be ready for the start of the season.

640
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that I think I do that one.

641
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think so so. Those are

642
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: some some franchise tag considerations coming down the line here

643
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: for a handful of different NFL clubs. Again, the window

644
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: to begin tagging players opens tomorrow and runs until March fourth.

645
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: Will we come back on the other side to close

646
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: this thing down. We've got some of your tweets to

647
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: get to. Are also interesting trade proposal that was floated

648
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Speaker 2: that involves a quarterback for the Steelers and does not

649
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: take Nick Herbig in return to like like we were

650
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: laughing about last week. So we'll get to some of

651
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Speaker 2: your tweets. We'll get to another one of these quarterback

652
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Speaker 2: trade proposal scenarios as we round out the day's proceedings.

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Speaker 2: Closing down the Drive here on this Monday, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: get to some of your tweets in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: Before that, Matt, listen as you and I we do

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Speaker 2: it too. It's hypothetical season, right yeah, that's fine. Would

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Speaker 2: you rather Wednesday and some of these things that we do?

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Speaker 2: And what about this? If you were the Raiders, we

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Speaker 2: would you consider for giving up the first pick? All

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Speaker 2: this different kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Lamar and Burrow are going anywhere, but

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Speaker 3: we've thrown their names out.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly right. So with that last week we kind

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Speaker 2: of scoffed is maybe the best word to put it

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Speaker 2: at a trade proposal that was Tanner McKee, the Eagles

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Speaker 2: backup quarterback who a lot of people are really high

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Speaker 2: on and think, yeah, is you know a potential flashes

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Speaker 2: hidden gem potentially around the NFL for Nick Herbig And

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Speaker 2: we were both like, yeah, no chance, Like I'm not

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Speaker 2: taking a twenty five year old is sending edge rush

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Speaker 2: for an unknown backup.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback right right right?

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Speaker 2: But today I saw this was actually revisited and kind

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Speaker 2: of revised from Bill Barnwell, who put out the first one.

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Speaker 3: I think he put out a list of like trades

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Speaker 3: that could happen or should happen or something. I need

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Speaker 3: to look at that one.

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Speaker 2: And I saw the headline Steelers look for potential quarterback answers,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, all right, is this going to

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Speaker 2: be another trading her big type, but it's not. His

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Speaker 2: proposal was the Steelers acquire Tanner McKee from the Eagles

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Speaker 2: quarterback Tanner McKee four one of their third round picks

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Speaker 2: this year. Remember they have three and a third round

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Speaker 2: pick in twenty twenty seven, so two third round picks

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Speaker 2: for Tanner McKee, saying they could even both be conditional.

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Speaker 2: So like you your last third round pick, all right.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to ask you something if you traded

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Speaker 3: for Tanner McKee and I don't even care about the

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Speaker 3: conversation for this question, does that mean Rogers is done?

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Speaker 3: Like are you just handing this guy the keys to

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Speaker 3: the Oh.

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Speaker 2: No, that's a very good conversation.

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Speaker 3: I thought so highly of them to do that, then

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Speaker 3: I'd consider it. I just don't know if I can

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Speaker 3: get there.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a very good question because if you're

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Speaker 2: going and trading.

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Speaker 3: For a quarterback, yeah, not a first.

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Speaker 2: Round pick, but not a seventh round pick either, right,

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Speaker 2: I think you want that guy to walk in and

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Speaker 2: be the guy I.

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Speaker 3: Do too, Like if it's mac Jones or McKee, or

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Speaker 3: if you sign Willis or.

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Speaker 2: So that's good because if you say mac Jones instead

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Speaker 2: of Tanner McKee. Then it's no one's no one's no

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Speaker 2: one's thinking you're bringing Aaron Rodgers back too. You're like,

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Speaker 2: what's the point of that. You just got mac Jones.

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Speaker 2: So I think that has to be the same logic

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Speaker 2: with Tanner McKee. If you're trading for Tanner mccame bucket,

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Speaker 2: you're sinking or swimming with him this year, and worst

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Speaker 2: case scenario, you go to a Will Howard or a

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Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph. Yeah, if it doesn't work out, but like,

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Speaker 2: you're sinking or swimming with that guy this year, and.

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Speaker 3: If you sink, it's not the end of the world.

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Speaker 2: You still think it's not the aid might be a

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Speaker 2: good war, it might even be a good world, and

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Speaker 2: you position yourself to go and get a guy in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, or you end up going to Will

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Speaker 2: Howard and he shows you something, whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 2: But yes, I cannot talk myself into a world where

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Speaker 2: I'm bringing Aaron Rodgers back and giving up a pick

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Speaker 2: or two for another quarterback. That can't happen.

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Speaker 3: I think so too.

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Speaker 2: So unless I'm giving up a pick or two to

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Speaker 2: move up a few spots to get a ty Simpson

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Speaker 2: or somebody that.

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Speaker 3: You fall in love. Yeah, that's different. I guess that's different.

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Speaker 2: But right Tanner mckeithy.

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Speaker 3: By Simpson, I'd love Rogers to be here, Tanner mckekey,

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Speaker 3: you're mac. I don't want Rogers.

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Speaker 2: He'll turn twenty six the week of the draft, so

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Speaker 2: same age as Malik willis like he's not he's not

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Speaker 2: old by any means, but he's not twenty one or

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Speaker 2: twenty two either.

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Speaker 3: So acquiring a quarterback like this, McKee aside or m

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Speaker 3: McKee included, if you hit, you're happy totally. If you

742
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Speaker 3: really with you might be happy. Now, Cam Hayward's not happy.

743
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Speaker 3: We're not happy talking about the team in week twelve

744
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Speaker 3: when you just lost ten to seven to the Browns.

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Speaker 2: The owner, the owner's not happy.

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Speaker 3: Owner's not happy. It's a long year, but big picture,

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Speaker 3: you're set up to probably get a quarterback that you like,

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Speaker 3: and clearly the need was not been filled. And maybe

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Speaker 3: even like you said, go to the last six games

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Speaker 3: with Will Howard and maybe he shucks it up and

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Speaker 3: you're happy with him, you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 3: McKee was a bust, but Howard looks great. You know,

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Speaker 3: we won five our last six and you know, we're

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Speaker 3: fun to talk about steels again, you know, so I

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Speaker 3: understand that logic. I just don't think I can give

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Speaker 3: three two third round picks for Tanna when it said and.

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Speaker 2: If it was like a third round er this year

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Speaker 2: in a sixth round or next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that could turn into a fourth if he goes

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Speaker 3: to the Pro Bowl or something different. Conversation completely because

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Speaker 3: one of the problems with Tanner McKee to me is

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Speaker 3: he's not mobile. And it's one of my almost deal breakers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the next guy has to be mobile almost. I mean,

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Speaker 3: now there's a price Max Jones not really mobile either.

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Speaker 3: There's a price where I would take that spot where

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Speaker 3: if they fail, I'm still happy because I probably have

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Speaker 3: a really good avenue to my next quarterback who will

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Speaker 3: be mobile. But even if he hits, I don't know

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Speaker 3: that he can hit big enough for me, you know,

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Speaker 3: Like I don't want to be stuck in Matt Shaw

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Speaker 3: Andy Dalton Land where he was good. He was worth

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Speaker 3: two third round picks. And he's the eighteenth best quarterback

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Speaker 3: in the league and he's twenty seven, and he.

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Speaker 2: Might win a playoff game or two, but that's going

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Speaker 2: to be the absolute ceiling, and.

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Speaker 3: I always got to put a lot around him because

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Speaker 3: he can't create. So I'm probably out on Tanner McKee

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Speaker 3: unless it's maybe I'll give you my last third round

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Speaker 3: pick for him straight up. But I'm thinking like a

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Speaker 3: fourth this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and see as we te it that much on

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Speaker 2: the Yeah, Like I think about what a third round

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Speaker 2: pick has gotten in return in the recent history of

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Speaker 2: the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Taylor McKee seems a little underwhelming in that Tanner McKee

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Speaker 2: part of me in that regard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they like him third round pick.

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Speaker 2: I want somebody that I know is going to come

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Speaker 2: in and have an impact right away.

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Speaker 3: I think you can get Mac Jones for a third.

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Speaker 3: Ye that said and done.

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Speaker 2: At least a third, exactly right. I want somebody that

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Speaker 2: I know is gonna gonna have, gonna, you know, really

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Speaker 2: carry some water for me.

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Speaker 3: Because I bet I could turn that third into a

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Speaker 3: second next year on draft day, you know, and.

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Speaker 2: DK you just traded its second. DK just went for

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Speaker 2: a second round pick.

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Speaker 3: Gino Smith went for a third last year, and Gino

801
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Speaker 3: was really good.

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Speaker 2: Coming off the last two or three years that Gino

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Speaker 2: had compared to what you know about Tanner McKee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean, you're buying youth. But I would

805
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Speaker 3: much rather give money to Willis agreed, not even close agreed,

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Speaker 3: and use that third round pick on a guard or

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Speaker 3: turn into a second next year, because even if you

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Speaker 3: give money to Willis and he flops, you're in the

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Speaker 3: same situation. You're happy about it in the on draft

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Speaker 3: day next.

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Speaker 2: Year, exactly right. So yeah, I like that proposal much

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Speaker 2: more than the one that in Alves Nick Herbig. But

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Speaker 2: I'm still I'm still passing on that. I'm saying, thanks

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Speaker 2: Howie Roseman, but we'll we'll find another another avenue.

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Speaker 3: And frankly, if they're so enthralled with Tanner McKee that

816
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: you could get Hurts, I don't think that's my answer either.

817
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: I think I've seen enough of Hurts to be like,

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Speaker 3: that's that wouldn't be my pick. Same because he's not

819
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Speaker 3: gonna be You're not gonna get him for a third

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Speaker 3: I'll go fish.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, again, I'm just gonna save my assets and see

823
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Speaker 3: what comes up in the next five hundred days.

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Speaker 2: It's a long time, m M, but it also happens

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Speaker 2: very quickly. Lou tweets us let's get to a couple

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Speaker 2: tweets before we get on up out of here. Lou

827
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Speaker 2: tweets us this is a good question, kind of off

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Speaker 2: of the first hour that we had spending some time

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Speaker 2: with your inaugural mock draft. Lou tweets and says, given

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Speaker 2: how deep the wide receiver class is, would you guys

831
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Speaker 2: can considered taking an interior defensive lineman nose tackle type

832
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Speaker 2: like Kadi McDonald out of Ohio State. He puts the

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Speaker 2: remis in the first round. It would allow you to

834
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Speaker 2: put Benton in a position where he's more effective, and

835
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Speaker 2: you could still take a wide receiver in the second round.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely think when we're three weeks away from draft

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Speaker 3: day that we might even prefer that because you might

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Speaker 3: have Ayuk, you know what I mean. Sure, Sure, if

839
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Speaker 3: Pittman gets cut and you signed Pittman to eighteen to

840
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Speaker 3: twenty two million a year on a two year deal,

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Speaker 3: I think receiver in round one would be nice, but

842
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 3: it's not required anymore. I'm certain when the draft comes

843
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: around they will have a veteran on this team. And

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Speaker 3: I know we've spent summers saying this and it's still

845
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: should quite happen. That has been on fantasy teams. You

846
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like as a name, I bet,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that'll happen before the draft.

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Speaker 2: Here's a good one. I completely you cannot go into

849
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Speaker 2: the draft with your wide receiver room being dk metcalf

850
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 2: Room and Wilson and Ben s Kronick.

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00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: Even if you brought back Boston, it's still not enough.

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00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I need somebody that's a starter. Knobs

853
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: are better. Yes, you know what I mean.

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00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: Yes, Ian tweets us.

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Speaker 3: And thus I don't have to use a first round

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Speaker 3: pick on a receiver.

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Speaker 2: And that is what the Steelers have always done. It

858
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: was a Kevin Colbert thing, but it's rolled into this

859
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: new era. You want to have. You don't want to

860
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Speaker 2: be pigeonholed into we have to do this at this

861
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Speaker 2: pick or else.

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00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: Even though twenty one looks like a great spot to

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Speaker 3: take a receiver, I don't want to have to.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to have I want to be able

865
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Speaker 2: to look at defensive tackle. I want to be able

866
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Speaker 2: to look at a couple other positions.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing, too, is then the whole world

868
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Speaker 3: knows it, and someone jumps to twenty and takes your guy,

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Speaker 3: and then that's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Ian tweets us and says, as we look at the

871
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Speaker 2: wide receiver landscape for twenty twenty six, which door would

872
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: make you happier? Ian speaking your language?

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Speaker 3: Door one.

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Speaker 2: Door one is Steelers draft a wide receiver early in

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Speaker 2: the draft round one or two a lot with grabbing

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Speaker 2: a veteran wide receiver via trade or free agency. That's

877
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Speaker 2: door one. Door two is you draft two wide receivers

878
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: in earlier rounds in the draft, so one in round

879
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: four one or sorry, one in round one, another in

880
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: round four ish. Thank you guys. Door one or door two.

881
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: Door one remind one. Door one is receiver in the

882
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: first or second round with a veteran. Door two is

883
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: drafting two wide receivers, one early one mid round.

884
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, we kind of answered that last question just because

885
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 3: that meant you went into the draft with kind of

886
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 3: only what you have and then you're kind of behind

887
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 3: the eight ball in terms of maneuverability or heaven forbid

888
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: downs happens to be there at twenty one and you

889
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: can't take you know what I mean, or love or

890
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: somebody that just shouldn't be there, or any position that

891
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: you have a way higher grade on you're like, I'd

892
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: love to take them, but I can't. You don't want

893
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: to be a nice that show shoes.

894
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: My ultimate pie in the sky scenario might be Caleb

895
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: Downs is still there pick I would be. I mean,

896
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: I don't not gonna happen, but because some team would

897
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: trade and it picked fifteen to nab him or something

898
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: like that, if he's still there.

899
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: But like Cale Hamilton went to like sixteen. Yeah, when

900
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: we thought we were talking about it, he's like the

901
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 3: top five player in the draft. You know, like, weird

902
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 3: things happened. I at least want to be able to

903
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: pivot to I can't believe this weird thing happened. I'm

904
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: gonna grab it.

905
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: Yes, you got you gotta you gotta have all your

906
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: because weird things happen in the first round every years. Yeah,

907
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of

908
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: when weird things are going to happen. In this conversation,

909
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: uh smooth, Dave tweets us and says, how involved will

910
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: these new coaches on the staff be with talent and

911
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: player evaluation and acquisition as opposed to the people in

912
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: the front office that have already been in place and

913
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: involved with this process.

914
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: I don't have a clue. I don't know how we

915
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: would know the answer to that yet. I mean, I'm

916
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 3: sure McCarthy will have much more involved.

917
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: That was his follow up question was what is Micha

918
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: McCarthy's track record in that regard.

919
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: I don't on a thousand percent know, but I would

920
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: assume he's gonna harry more weight than if they would

921
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: have hired Shula or Shiel House or somebody that's just

922
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: hasn't been in the rooms as long or hasn't been

923
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: a head coach before.

924
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: I think the big thing for you know, if you

925
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 2: want to talk to Michae McCarthy specifically, is I think

926
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: he's going to go to the omar Cons and the

927
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: Andy Whitels and everybody that works with them, and he's

928
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: gonna say, guys, we we need two more three more

929
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: viable wide receivers.

930
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

931
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: He's not coming in with a name of like I

932
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: want Romeo Dobbs, and I want Jordan Tyson and I

933
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: want this guy in the fifth round, right, But he's

934
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: gonna come in and he's gonna say, by the time

935
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: we get to OTAs in May, I need a veteran

936
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: and two rookies. I need a veteran and a high

937
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: level rookie. I think it's gonna be stuff like.

938
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: They both can't be little or one of them has

939
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: to be a man beater. Yes, you know, like I need.

940
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: He needs a background in this scheme, you know those

941
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: type of things. These are my requirements to ride the ride.

942
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: You know, here's what I need to add to the

943
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: to the running back room, here's what I need tod

944
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: to the wide receiver room.

945
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: Now quarterback. I bet he watches every snap of everything. Yeah,

946
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: you know, just because of his background, where maybe Tomlin

947
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 3: wouldn't have. But I'll be shocked if any of them

948
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: are as involved as Tomlin.

949
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: At this stage. At this Now by next year it's

950
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: a different conversation. But at this stage, yes, absolutely.

951
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: But he's going to be more involved than young head

952
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: coach they could have hired.

953
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: I would think somewhere in between Mike Tomlin and Chris Schuler,

954
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: Jesse Minter, whoever the key is.

955
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: The coordinators and play callers on both sides of the

956
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: ball are going to be like, this is the scheme

957
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 3: I want to run, and I have everything on defense

958
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: except for I really need a true nose. You know

959
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: like or I only have any need.

960
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 2: For offense, but I need to starter capable wide.

961
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: Receivers right right right, like, Okay.

962
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's the I think that's

963
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: the balance that they're going to strike there, which.

964
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's what this coaching staff is doing more

965
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 3: now than writing next year's playbook, absolutely watching the last

966
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: year's tape, going oh, he can fit this more perfect.

967
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: That'll do it for today. Good stuff today, a lot

968
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: of fun today. We'll continue the conversation tomorrow. We're looking

969
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: trying to line up a potential guest that would be

970
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: a lot of fun to join us to talk about

971
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: Steelers defensive coordinator Patrick Graham and everything that we can

972
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: expect for him. But until we cross those te's and

973
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: dot those i's, I'm not gonna go much further than

974
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: that at this point. Big thanks to Nate Dog for

975
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: producing on the ones and twos, Tyler V Mister TV

976
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: on the video side of things for Matt Williams and

977
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Speaker 2: Unwe Shueler. Take care everybody. We will talk to you tomorrow.

978
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,680
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979
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