Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Morning, everybody, It's d j en Vy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne
Speaker 2: the gud.
Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: And we got a special guest in the building that
Speaker 2: came in here so delightfully right and nice.
Speaker 1: Ladies lying, she was not lying. She was not lying.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, don't morning.
Speaker 4: I'm great man.
Speaker 5: It's feel good to see you because the last time
Speaker 5: you was here, no label reps with you. But when
Speaker 5: you see the whole label here with you, that's when
Speaker 5: you know you're really doing good.
Speaker 1: So congratulations, thank.
Speaker 4: You, thank you so much. It has been a while.
Speaker 4: I think last time I was talking about fighting, it
Speaker 4: was it was a lot going on.
Speaker 1: Did you get a call after that person call you?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, they didn't call me. They didn't call me.
Speaker 4: But it doesn't matter. We don't need to be.
Speaker 1: It's not how much is life changed.
Speaker 4: It's changed. I mean a lot. I've been NonStop, like
Speaker 4: on the go. I've been really really busy in a
Speaker 4: good way, performing a lot. I just got off tour,
Speaker 4: which is incredible. Grammy nom. A lot of a lot
Speaker 4: of things have been happening.
Speaker 6: I feel good you receiving a hip Hop Disruptor Award.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just made that up.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It's when they got to make a name, they got
Speaker 4: to make an award. It feels good. I mean, I'm
Speaker 4: just like, wow, hip hop disruptor. That that resonates with
Speaker 4: me heavily feels good.
Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself just a rappertal?
Speaker 4: I think an overall artist, but first a rapper for
Speaker 4: sure from Tampa.
Speaker 2: We're talking about artist from Tampa.
Speaker 1: But sound is just different.
Speaker 7: I don't I listened to it.
Speaker 1: I don't know where she from.
Speaker 6: She a galaxy is different. I will always say Spooky
Speaker 6: Coochie is my favorite song. I know you talk about
Speaker 6: Alligator bikes never, but like girl, that's my jam.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the name of the album. Yeah, mixtape.
Speaker 2: It's mixtape album, mixtape, mixtape alligated byce never Heal. Why
Speaker 2: is the name of that? And you talk about it
Speaker 2: all the time? But this is a different people.
Speaker 4: I know. I mean today, it's like it's about this
Speaker 4: never ending cycle of life of you always have a
Speaker 4: series of truths that you have to constantly come to
Speaker 4: within yourself over and over again. It's about patterns. Essentially,
Speaker 4: it's like when you get over one hurdle and you
Speaker 4: you cool in, then you have another one to jump in,
Speaker 4: and it's another one, And it's just about accepting that
Speaker 4: there's always going to be more to discover about yourself.
Speaker 4: There's always going to be more things to dislike about
Speaker 4: yourself or like about yourself the more you go on
Speaker 4: in life, and that's what it's about. Ultimately, you'll always
Speaker 4: be wounded in some type of way and then you'll
Speaker 4: always heal.
Speaker 5: Well, when did when did you get by an alligator?
Speaker 5: Cha even try to go to a hospital to see I.
Speaker 4: Have never been bitten by an alligator. I would hope
Speaker 4: that would never happen to me, but I'd be around
Speaker 4: them all the time.
Speaker 1: Temple or what came up with that?
Speaker 5: Even that concept like just to even I don't know
Speaker 5: what you call it a metaphor or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. It really was deeply spiritual. It
Speaker 4: just came to me, like I always had the name
Speaker 4: before I even had a project put together. I was like,
Speaker 4: one day I'm going to do a project. It's going
Speaker 4: to be called Alligator Fights, Never Heal, and the music
Speaker 4: will make sense with it. One day.
Speaker 7: So you've been thought of this, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2: The you talking about changing and things that you like
Speaker 2: about yourself and don't like about yourself. What did you
Speaker 2: see that that you didn't like about yourself?
Speaker 4: I think when I was creating this project, I was
Speaker 4: always drunk, always drinking, always partying, and I couldn't recognize
Speaker 4: myself at all because I wasn't really myself. I was intoxicated,
Speaker 4: whether I'm smoking, I'm drinking or whatever, and I wasn't
Speaker 4: liking the person that was reflecting back at me. And
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, I think it's time to like
Speaker 4: sober up and I need to just get away from
Speaker 4: people and figure out who am I right now? Because
Speaker 4: I feel like I was carrying this version of myself
Speaker 4: that I had been since I was like twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and it was no longer
Speaker 4: serving who I was to become. And when it was
Speaker 4: no longer serving me, I was like, Okay, let's make
Speaker 4: a change. And I felt heavily inspired and I made
Speaker 4: the album bout it being by the boom. I'm in
Speaker 4: the data suit.
Speaker 1: Know when did you get to that point? Because you
Speaker 1: know in de Nihala is the river. You talk about
Speaker 1: that a lot.
Speaker 5: You talk about you know, being in I guess that
Speaker 5: that that dark period, but you know, also being caught
Speaker 5: up in the fast lane of being a rapper, so
Speaker 5: you had to be lying to yourself for a while.
Speaker 5: The name of denial is the river when you get
Speaker 5: to the point where it was like, you know what,
Speaker 5: I am kind of fucked up about it.
Speaker 4: I don't think I was ever lying to myself. De
Speaker 4: nihala is a river. I titled it that because I
Speaker 4: was dealing with somebody who was lying to themselves. But anyways,
Speaker 4: I came to that point when I realized that I
Speaker 4: couldn't create music without drinking in the studio, and that
Speaker 4: was my breaking point where I was like, oh, I
Speaker 4: have truly forgotten the source of my creativity, the source
Speaker 4: of who I am, and I'm looking for things outside
Speaker 4: of me to be myself. That's weird.
Speaker 1: Did did Wendy Williams influenced? Then?
Speaker 4: I was yeah, that quote? Wow? Yeah, well you.
Speaker 1: Was in a situation like that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What wow? I mean twenty four real shocking. How do
Speaker 1: you deal with that when a person that I mean that.
Speaker 4: It's that was never the problem. I think the problem
Speaker 4: was that you cheated on me. You all so could
Speaker 4: have let me know upfront, you know which your style was.
Speaker 4: I'm bisexual, that's cool. I've dated bisexual man.
Speaker 1: It's different, different when it's a man.
Speaker 4: Let me know what it is upfront. Let me know
Speaker 4: what it is upfront. I'll accept you for who you are.
Speaker 4: It doesn't really matter. I think it's like cheating on
Speaker 4: top of lying in secrecy about just who you are
Speaker 4: as a person.
Speaker 2: So you would have a problem dating or you dated
Speaker 2: a bisexual man.
Speaker 4: It's like, how can I be bisexual and then I'm
Speaker 4: gonna not date somebody who else who's bisexual? Why because
Speaker 4: he's a man.
Speaker 2: Because people look at it different people people, people look
Speaker 2: at it differently. It's in this world, it's okay for
Speaker 2: another woman to be with another woman, but for a
Speaker 2: man to be with another way, and people look at
Speaker 2: that differently. In a bisexual relationship.
Speaker 4: Now, absolutely not. It's I don't see it that way.
Speaker 4: I really don't. I think that sexuality is fluid and
Speaker 4: I really don't give it.
Speaker 7: An because then that's contradicting it is, know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, How could I sit up here and be bisexual
Speaker 4: and they'd be like, oh no, I can't girl.
Speaker 7: Whatever.
Speaker 6: So what's your relationship like now? Because I saw where
Speaker 6: you said you have a girlfriend.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah she trust you.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, yeah yes she does.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 5: I love the fact that you also named songs after
Speaker 5: things that I love because I'm from the South.
Speaker 4: You literally look like you just don't age.
Speaker 1: You look fantastic about.
Speaker 5: You were saying, well, no, you named you named the
Speaker 5: songs after the things that I love, like boiled peanuts, yes, catfish,
Speaker 5: Carolina Okay, talking about fireflies like what made you pay?
Speaker 1: How muche to those things?
Speaker 4: Just the little things that I like in Florida, the
Speaker 4: little things that make up the swamp. Just things that I.
Speaker 1: Think are cool, even bull frog. You've got to be
Speaker 1: from the country to even though.
Speaker 4: The Yeah I hate those things.
Speaker 1: I'm the only hero what that is?
Speaker 4: I've seen them?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you people in the South like the little.
Speaker 1: Fireflies beautiful.
Speaker 5: But you're showing off your white side. Don't want to
Speaker 5: hear you say, nigga no more. Speaking of that, Drick
Speaker 5: sand you the hardest up.
Speaker 4: He did make you feel that was great. It's Kendrick.
Speaker 4: I was like, I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He didn't say she hard he said the hardest out period.
Speaker 4: What a period? And men don't even be using periods,
Speaker 4: So that's.
Speaker 3: A big these niggas.
Speaker 1: Has he given you that validation off off offline.
Speaker 4: Too, like just we've actually never met in person, I haven't.
Speaker 4: I haven't met him in person yet, but he has
Speaker 4: given me my props publicly, which is incredible stoke and
Speaker 4: the day I meet him, chill.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a really good You'll spoke before that.
Speaker 1: But so you've never even I've never met Kendrick, never
Speaker 1: met him, never spoke to him on nothing. He just
Speaker 1: randomly post posted, Wow, you.
Speaker 6: Were signed to t TD for four years and you
Speaker 6: didn't drop You didn't drop anything with him.
Speaker 4: It took me a really, really long time to figure
Speaker 4: out the direction of where I wanted to go with
Speaker 4: my music. And I think that we were dropping singles
Speaker 4: and it's like it had time had been, time had
Speaker 4: gone by, and I was trying to discover who I
Speaker 4: was musically through singles and I couldn't discover that through
Speaker 4: a full body project. And I was like, I need
Speaker 4: to drop a mixtape and get something out so that
Speaker 4: I can have a project to measure up to. You know,
Speaker 4: you have artists that are single artists and then you
Speaker 4: have artists that are like conceptual album artists. And I
Speaker 4: think that I'm that type of artist. And I couldn't
Speaker 4: see that because I had never dropped a project before.
Speaker 4: So it's like four years went by, I got ten singles.
Speaker 4: I was like, listen, we gotta let something go as
Speaker 4: soon as possible.
Speaker 1: But yeah, was that fight was topping Punch like against.
Speaker 4: It or no, I don't think that I actually don't
Speaker 4: work with Punch, but okay, but no, it's not that
Speaker 4: they were against it. It was just a lot of
Speaker 4: back and forth about what it is that I wanted
Speaker 4: to say, and do we do we want to go
Speaker 4: this direction? Do we want to go that direction? Do
Speaker 4: I want pop? Do I want? What type of artists
Speaker 4: do I want to be? And it took me a
Speaker 4: minute to kind of figure that out.
Speaker 1: How big is TD that you don't work with Punch?
Speaker 4: I mean Punch is heavily in with Scissa, and I
Speaker 4: mean Siss' is a global superstar. She's busy, So yeah,
Speaker 4: that's my girl, that's my girl. She's incredible When you're creating.
Speaker 1: It's just you in the studio like yeah, wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's even I don't like anybody in the studio
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 2: Not as there's rumors that you know, you haven't met Kendrick,
Speaker 2: but there's rumors that you're going to be meeting him
Speaker 2: soon because they said that you possibly are going out
Speaker 2: on two with Kendrick.
Speaker 3: Is is any truth to that?
Speaker 1: You can lie about everything else, but you can't keep that, y'all.
Speaker 4: Please, I have not met Kendrick. I don't know what
Speaker 4: Kendrick has of his sleeve. I don't know what's to come.
Speaker 4: But I know that I am prepared to receive any
Speaker 4: opportunity that comes my way. But truly, I have no
Speaker 4: idea I.
Speaker 1: Heard you on his deluxe album or the next project.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry how I'm on it. I ain't never even
Speaker 4: met him. I don't know.
Speaker 3: You can send records back and forth I have.
Speaker 4: I have no idea what he has sleeve. I don't
Speaker 4: know what's going on.
Speaker 7: You're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: I don't know you're performing at the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: I have no idea what is going on.
Speaker 5: I love your song Bloom Too, and you talk about
Speaker 5: you know, constantly neglecting important aspects of your life, like
Speaker 5: checking on your family, making time for yourself.
Speaker 1: You've only gotten more busy.
Speaker 5: You know, you're only getting more money, So how are you,
Speaker 5: you know, balancing those things now?
Speaker 4: I am balancing them. Listen. I use D and D
Speaker 4: to the fullest of my potential. When I'm off work,
Speaker 4: I am truly off work. That's how I have my balance.
Speaker 4: When I have my me time, that's my me time.
Speaker 4: And if I need three days where it's nothing and nobody,
Speaker 4: I'm going to take that time. So that's how I
Speaker 4: keep my balance. It's just shutting everybody out when I
Speaker 4: need me time.
Speaker 5: As family gotten more aggressive, because aggressive I meaning you're
Speaker 5: more visible now, Like people see you now, a lot
Speaker 5: of people talking about you, and you know sometimes they
Speaker 5: think that you got more than you got.
Speaker 4: People's families get aggressive.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like let me get it. We used to
Speaker 1: be on holidays.
Speaker 4: Nah, not my family. Not my family where our family
Speaker 4: is very very supportive of me. They hold me down
Speaker 4: like big time. I was just at my Tempa show.
Speaker 4: My entire family came, like half my family was the
Speaker 4: goddamn audience. I was like, y'all are pushing my fans
Speaker 4: out the way.
Speaker 6: So nah, digit label really tell you have to put
Speaker 6: out so much rap back to back?
Speaker 7: Who said that online?
Speaker 6: There's a bunch of yeah wrapped to wrap back to
Speaker 6: like you know, not to put out so much wrap
Speaker 6: back to back like that?
Speaker 7: Yeah so much? Yeah? No, didn't people be lying?
Speaker 4: Why did they not want me to wrap?
Speaker 7: That's the point. I don't know. I just I seen it.
Speaker 7: I wanted to hear from your mouth.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, do you still have a Nissan Altimore?
Speaker 4: No? No, but it's crazy. I actually just I got
Speaker 4: rid of it. The video that we shot that was
Speaker 4: when I got rid of it.
Speaker 1: Why would you get rid of it?
Speaker 4: That was the first car that the label got me.
Speaker 4: When I first got here, I didn't have a cardisan Ultimate.
Speaker 3: When you got to.
Speaker 4: You got you didn't buy me, you said, gave me.
Speaker 4: I didn't have a car, I have no money. It
Speaker 4: was like, look a little lady, you need to take it.
Speaker 4: You gotta crawl for your balls. Gave me a Nissan.
Speaker 4: I crashed it. It was horrible drive. No, I had
Speaker 4: never had a car before either, and I didn't drive.
Speaker 1: So wait a minute, come on, explain this to me again.
Speaker 4: When I before I got. I never had a car
Speaker 4: before and I didn't drive, so I came here and
Speaker 4: I was like, I need to learn how to drive,
Speaker 4: and I need a car. I need to get around.
Speaker 4: So they were like, here, you can just try your
Speaker 4: best with this one.
Speaker 1: Did you have a license?
Speaker 4: It was horrible. I did have a license, but I
Speaker 4: didn't drive.
Speaker 3: How did you crash in New York?
Speaker 4: What you mean New York?
Speaker 1: From the country. It was a coaching shop when I
Speaker 1: first started driving. L A l A.
Speaker 4: Okay, L A L A is stressful driving. It's too much.
Speaker 4: I get anxiety even to this day. I don't drive.
Speaker 4: It's too much. But yeah, I wrecked the car. It
Speaker 4: is horrible.
Speaker 6: No, look, no, they said they didn't want a ton
Speaker 6: of hard rap songs back to bag, like they wanted
Speaker 6: you to spread them out.
Speaker 2: Just like this is what they're saying.
Speaker 4: So all right, So she said no, No, CD is
Speaker 4: gonna always push me and want me to wrap like
Speaker 4: that's the horror of the label.
Speaker 1: On the song he's on. Ultimately, you say she's munching
Speaker 1: on the box while she watching Hulu. Absolutely, so who's
Speaker 1: you know? I'm old?
Speaker 5: So you gotta school me when you say she you're
Speaker 5: talking about she's munching the box while she watching Hulu?
Speaker 1: But is she watching Hulu? Is you?
Speaker 3: It could be more than two greats.
Speaker 4: It could be yeah, you never know. You don't know
Speaker 4: what's going on. It's a lot of girls in there.
Speaker 4: It could be two, it could be three. It could
Speaker 4: be six because.
Speaker 1: If she's watching Hulu, how she watching the box at
Speaker 1: the same time.
Speaker 3: It could be one.
Speaker 1: You gotta focus.
Speaker 4: That's not true.
Speaker 1: Well, she's terrible at her job.
Speaker 4: Women can multitask.
Speaker 7: You got to do a visual for this song.
Speaker 4: You can multitask. It would be surprised what can go
Speaker 4: down in these lesbian relationships. You can do a lot.
Speaker 4: You could save world hunger and still eat the box
Speaker 4: at the same time.
Speaker 1: That, y'all world not just interesting.
Speaker 5: That's why I said I love the titles of your
Speaker 5: songs because it's like it's clearly just a feeling, right
Speaker 5: Like you write these records and you're like, what does this.
Speaker 1: Record feel like? Yeah, this record feels like a Nis
Speaker 1: song Ultimore. Mm hm, it does.
Speaker 4: I was like, because that record, to me, it feels
Speaker 4: like when you like freestyling with your girls and you're
Speaker 4: just smoking in the car and y'all freestyling, That's what
Speaker 4: it gives me.
Speaker 5: I also wanted to with TD, was there ever, Like
Speaker 5: I don't want to say push back, but it's like
Speaker 5: they have a scissor right, So it's like if you
Speaker 5: started when you do like to sing sometimes, do they
Speaker 5: ever discourage you from doing that?
Speaker 1: Like no, just stick to you.
Speaker 4: Never they don't. My label does not bother me in
Speaker 4: the studio, Like I don't like people in the studio
Speaker 4: with me. I like to record alone. I'm by myself,
Speaker 4: nobody's interrupting me. It's just like, do your think I sing?
Speaker 4: I sing? I got what it is. That's nothing. That's
Speaker 4: a full singing song. It's no rap on.
Speaker 1: There, like whatever the reason I asked on Boombab, like
Speaker 1: I just I just can't sing.
Speaker 4: A little bit no, because literally I felt like with Boombab,
Speaker 4: it was like I'm internalizing all of the chatter that
Speaker 4: I'm getting from fans, from haters, from major label, from
Speaker 4: the guys like oh yeah, we really like when you rap, now,
Speaker 4: we really like when you sing. She should keep doing
Speaker 4: the pops, she should keep doing this. And I was
Speaker 4: just too focused on what everybody else wanted for DOCI
Speaker 4: versus what do wanted for? Is that a diamond tester?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, right, what's scary?
Speaker 4: That's got to be some form of bullying check my
Speaker 4: ring day crazy.
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask to you.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: You talked earlier about you know, you were drinking and
Speaker 2: you're using drugs and alcohol as a crutch right when performing?
Speaker 2: Were you nervous about doing this project not drinking? Like
Speaker 2: is it gonna cut? Am I gonna sound the same?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sound good.
Speaker 4: I was terrified. I was terrified because I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't know if people want to hear these dark topics.
Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody wants to hear this right now.
Speaker 4: I feel like there was a period in music where
Speaker 4: everybody was like, shut up with that conscious Don't nobody
Speaker 4: want to hear all that? People just want to have fun.
Speaker 4: Right now we got out of COVID, don't nobody want
Speaker 4: to be sad da? And I was like, I don't
Speaker 4: want my fans to listen to my music and be sad.
Speaker 4: I want them to feel good about themselves. But it's
Speaker 4: also like, if I'm I have to make music for
Speaker 4: therapy for myself, otherwise I'm doing it for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 4: And then I was like, well, this is my truth.
Speaker 4: This is where I am in my life right now.
Speaker 4: Somebody else got to be dealing with this shit too,
Speaker 4: And even if they not, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: What became a new crutch? Or if there is a
Speaker 2: new crutch, like usually people get rid of drinking and
Speaker 2: they smoke, or they give rid of smoke and they
Speaker 2: start having sex, or they watched this, like, what what's
Speaker 2: the new crutch? If there is one, knock it off?
Speaker 4: I think the new crutch is music. I am. I
Speaker 4: don't vape, I don't smoke. I don't do noneing at
Speaker 4: least right now in this season in my life. Because
Speaker 4: what works for me now is what works for me now.
Speaker 4: I might run right back to the bottle when I
Speaker 4: turn thirty, who knows, and that's my business. But I
Speaker 4: think that this serves me and my new crutch is
Speaker 4: just my music and sobriety. It feels better to be
Speaker 4: sober right.
Speaker 1: Now, gotcha.
Speaker 5: I don't think your generation knows how courageous y'all are.
Speaker 5: And what I mean by that is it's like, you know,
Speaker 5: for us, we weren't talking about mental health. We weren't
Speaker 5: talking about anxiety. We weren't talking about depression. But you know,
Speaker 5: you get older, you start doing the work on yourself.
Speaker 5: We didn't have nobody providing no soundtracks for us, but
Speaker 5: it's like now it's the you, it's the Kindred, it's
Speaker 5: just the rhapsodies, like y'all are not afraid to put
Speaker 5: that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: In y'all in your music.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that it's important too. I feel like,
Speaker 4: especially in hip hop right now, it should be reflecting
Speaker 4: real life situations and real things that are going on.
Speaker 4: I feel like there is a overload of distractions and
Speaker 4: materialism and things like that. We need to balance it
Speaker 4: with that heart and that consciousness and a self awareness.
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm contributing right now. I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: popping ass soon though.
Speaker 1: So you say that what was that song on m pah?
Speaker 1: You say I could. I could give them the consciouship,
Speaker 1: but I'm too bad.
Speaker 4: It's like, there's so many layers to me as a woman,
Speaker 4: and I'm going to express them all all the time.
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna box myself in, like, oh, I'm only
Speaker 4: going to talk about this, I'm only gonna writ this
Speaker 4: is real rap. Because you talk about that that's not true.
Speaker 4: I just think that I'm telling my truth right now,
Speaker 4: and this is my truth, but I'm not righteous.
Speaker 1: Lock it well, the unity of life is righteousness and ratchettess. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's the perfect balance, the perfect balance.
Speaker 6: Like that, you got anybody you want to collaborate with?
Speaker 6: Like you just dream.
Speaker 1: Right now about nothing going on?
Speaker 4: No, No, I think that I've gotten all my collaborations
Speaker 4: that I want. That Tyler one really did it for me.
Speaker 4: That was like top of my list. I have always
Speaker 4: wanted to collaborate with Tyler the Creator. I have my
Speaker 4: collab Oh, Beyonce and Kendrick Lamar top collaborations. Other than that,
Speaker 4: I'm cooling.
Speaker 1: Gave you she listed you.
Speaker 4: That was crazy.
Speaker 1: Have you met her?
Speaker 4: I haven't anybody.
Speaker 7: But you.
Speaker 6: You were You performed in La for Renaissance, right, I did,
Speaker 6: and you Okay, you just still didn't get to meet her.
Speaker 7: But yeah, because I heard a lot about your performance.
Speaker 6: It was lit and everything, and I told you were
Speaker 6: even popping bottles in the back.
Speaker 5: Okay, what time did you go on that you didn't meet?
Speaker 4: We got that opportunity kind of last minute. I think
Speaker 4: it may have. I found out what a day or
Speaker 4: two days before the show or something and again Global Superstars,
Speaker 4: super busy woman. She has her children with her on tour.
Speaker 4: She don't have time like you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: But I think in the when it's the right time,
Speaker 4: we'll meet each other.
Speaker 1: Is that recognition and validation mean anything new from Beyonce?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely. I trust her to pick the best talent
Speaker 4: and the best people that she's she surrounds herself with.
Speaker 4: When I went and I opened up her production team, flawless,
Speaker 4: her team was incredible, So I knew her inviting me
Speaker 4: was validation that I'm doing something right and I'm performing
Speaker 4: to some level of excellence, which was incredible.
Speaker 1: How do you deal with your your anxiety now?
Speaker 5: Because you know the crowd's only gonna get bigger, a
Speaker 5: lot more eyeballs on you. And you know, sometimes when
Speaker 5: I see you out, it feels like, I guess that's
Speaker 5: your bodyguard.
Speaker 1: You always look like you're always holding his hand. Is
Speaker 1: that like.
Speaker 4: I just don't like people too close to me, And
Speaker 4: that's all I think. I just hold his hand so
Speaker 4: that we can move through the crowd, because sometimes you
Speaker 4: could just check.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So what are you doing to just deal with
Speaker 5: the anxiety in general, like before you hit the stage.
Speaker 4: I don't feel any anxiety when I'm on stage and
Speaker 4: when I'm at shows or I like this environment, like
Speaker 4: my job with it. Yeah, what about interviews, he interviews.
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. I like interviews. This interview, however, made
Speaker 4: a little I was like, I don't know, unpredictable. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're a little unpredicted on the.
Speaker 3: Last time you said we had a great time.
Speaker 4: It was great. It was great, But I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know, you know, I don't know
Speaker 4: what type of headspace he's gonna be on. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't know what he's gonna be with it, but
Speaker 4: I feel.
Speaker 3: That every morning.
Speaker 5: Top Dog said that alligated never hear uh. He said
Speaker 5: it had the same vibe as Section eighty.
Speaker 4: He did say that. He said he had the same
Speaker 4: feeling that he did when Kendrick drops Section.
Speaker 1: Eighty, meaning like this is this is our next superstuff.
Speaker 4: I won't speak for him.
Speaker 1: I told him that though he sent me.
Speaker 5: He sent me the album Wow, like a while before
Speaker 5: it came out, and I was just like, what do you.
Speaker 4: Think about it?
Speaker 1: I said, She's I was on talking about it.
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I heard she out of here
Speaker 5: like like I literally was like, Yo, she's out of here,
Speaker 5: like thank you.
Speaker 1: She got to give you all the time.
Speaker 4: And I want to say thank you, Jess, because you do.
Speaker 4: You always give me my props. Everything that you have
Speaker 4: said about me is just you always seen me, and
Speaker 4: I really appreciate it. Even before all the hype, you
Speaker 4: was like.
Speaker 1: And she loved that stanky Poochie record.
Speaker 6: First of all, it's not a stinky stanky poo is
Speaker 6: on the first one the.
Speaker 1: Record on the new thank.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's a real Southern thing.
Speaker 7: You thankful.
Speaker 1: Is it true that you completed this project a month before?
Speaker 1: It was really?
Speaker 7: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Yeah. All it took.
Speaker 4: I needed it. It was something in my spirit that
Speaker 4: was like, you need to drop this this project now.
Speaker 4: If you don't drop this project now, you're gonna miss
Speaker 4: the mark. And I was like, I got to get
Speaker 4: this out right now. I don't know why, but God
Speaker 4: was just tugging on my spirit like it's time to go.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: How often do you and that's a stupid question, but
Speaker 5: how often do you listen to the spirit of God?
Speaker 1: Because sometimes God to tell you the move and we
Speaker 1: don't move.
Speaker 4: I only I'm only not listening to the spirit of
Speaker 4: God when I am distracted internally. That's why I keep
Speaker 4: telling you all this sobriety thing. I hear from God
Speaker 4: better when I'm sober and I'm clear minded. So it's
Speaker 4: like I only veer off of that when I distract
Speaker 4: myself with other things outside of me.
Speaker 5: And sometimes those other things are people humans know that
Speaker 5: are with you. When you're watching Hulu made.
Speaker 2: How doesn't feel when when you talk about all the
Speaker 2: albums that came out this year and they talk about
Speaker 2: yours as being one of the top five of the best.
Speaker 2: Way they talk about Kendrick's album, your album, what some
Speaker 2: of the other albums you named this week? When you're
Speaker 2: talking about the albums came in and her albums like
Speaker 2: top five of the best albums that came out this
Speaker 2: year globally on the top of those lists. When it
Speaker 2: comes to putting out music, because that's what you do
Speaker 2: it for. You want people to receive it. Well, So
Speaker 2: how does that feel?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like they're accurate, They're right, it should
Speaker 4: be there. It feels really really good.
Speaker 2: They ever feel a moment of they didn't understand it
Speaker 2: first and now people are starting to get it.
Speaker 4: I think people are still kind of trying to get it. Yeah, still.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've kind of felt like niche at first, Like
Speaker 4: I think people are just kind of like, what's what's
Speaker 4: her vibe? What's going on? She's an underwear she's rapping
Speaker 4: about this. I don't really get the girls tape on
Speaker 4: her face and they're trying to figure it out. I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 6: But you do this thing like you you capture somebody's attention.
Speaker 6: You make people want to pay attention more, because that
Speaker 6: that's how I got onto you. I'm like, dang, like
Speaker 6: what is this?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 7: You know, you are different.
Speaker 4: That's why I.
Speaker 7: Didn't know you were from Tampa till he just was
Speaker 7: saying it.
Speaker 6: Because you can't put you in a specific place like
Speaker 6: you know, and then your projects before nothing sounds like
Speaker 6: the previous one like you. You offer so many different
Speaker 6: like a variety of sounds. So I think the fact
Speaker 6: that they're trying to catch on that's still good as
Speaker 6: what you want because you don't fall in the box
Speaker 6: with nobody else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that it alien. They have to
Speaker 4: like you have to digest it, and I think you
Speaker 4: need context, because you'll listen to one song, but then
Speaker 4: you'll listen to another, and it's like when you listen
Speaker 4: to the full project. I think it comes together for people.
Speaker 4: You kind of got to dive in a song.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think it's dope that they can't put
Speaker 5: you in a box though, Like if you just to
Speaker 5: a song like all the Ego or Nissan Altima, you like,
Speaker 5: what is this?
Speaker 1: Who is this?
Speaker 5: I think it's just hard for people because in order
Speaker 5: to get an understanding, you have to say, oh, well,
Speaker 5: you know, she sounds like this and she sounds like that.
Speaker 1: So people know what they expect. But I think not
Speaker 1: knowing what they expect is even better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I think that my goal is to,
Speaker 4: if e mentally, just be in my own lane, my
Speaker 4: own thing. It's kind of like what I admired about
Speaker 4: Missy Elliott when she came out. It was like Missy
Speaker 4: Elliott rapped and sing, but she wrapped in a way
Speaker 4: that was just she's just Missy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: She kind of like separated herself, and I think that's
Speaker 4: the goal.
Speaker 5: What type of conversations is Dolt you're having with herself nowadays?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you Are you safe with yourself?
Speaker 4: I am. A lot of the conversations that I'm having
Speaker 4: is I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: Say the right thing in interviews.
Speaker 4: No, I find myself. I'm trying to ground myself right now.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like a lot of things are happening
Speaker 4: at once, and that happened to me when I first
Speaker 4: got signed, and it overwhelmed me, and I'm trying to
Speaker 4: learn from that and ground myself. I feel like I'm
Speaker 4: walking on a cloud, like on air, and I need
Speaker 4: to ground myself constantly, be like, Okay, calm down, you're safe.
Speaker 4: Good things are happening, and because good things are happening,
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that something bad is going to happen.
Speaker 4: This is okay. And that's what I'm practicing.
Speaker 5: How do you practice your mistakes nowadays?
Speaker 4: Through my music and through honesty and admitting that I
Speaker 4: made a damn mistake and then talking about it in
Speaker 4: my music. I don't like secrets. Yeah, and I have
Speaker 4: to tell my business on WAX. I don't know.
Speaker 7: Have you a a Zalia Bank spoke since.
Speaker 6: The last Yeah, it seems like you ain't even wanted
Speaker 6: to be beef because it's like nah, but I know
Speaker 6: that's like what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's whatever. You know.
Speaker 7: Now back to what I was saying.
Speaker 6: They were saying that crazy, I.
Speaker 7: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: Have you met Yeah, of.
Speaker 1: Course, I don't say of course just on stage flog now, Okay,
Speaker 1: because coninued, she seems like the type of person that
Speaker 1: you could talk to because y'all have had a similar trajectory.
Speaker 1: It's something. It's really. The reason I say that is
Speaker 1: because I love the way TD does it with their artists.
Speaker 5: I know it may seem frustrating to the artists, but
Speaker 5: it feels like they're one of the last few people
Speaker 5: who actually do artists development. So you watch these people
Speaker 5: grow and then become these big superstars. So she seems
Speaker 5: like the type of person you could talk to about
Speaker 5: everything you're experiencing.
Speaker 4: That absolutely, I could call her and I could talk
Speaker 4: to her about the simplest things. I could call her
Speaker 4: and be like, I'm having an existential crisis. So it
Speaker 4: feels good to just know that, like, I still can't
Speaker 4: do that, and she knows she can do the same
Speaker 4: with me, which is fire.
Speaker 1: We know she is busy, that's right. Well, they told
Speaker 1: her she had to be out here at a certain time.
Speaker 3: Let's let's play joint off.
Speaker 4: What you want to hear, I want to hear GTFO TFO.
Speaker 3: Let's get into it right now, and we appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: sin Man.
Speaker 4: She's so fine.
Speaker 1: It could have been cool to fetich.
Speaker 3: Could have been.
Speaker 4: Y'all. Check out Club Fetis. Shout out to her. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna give her a spotlight in her moment. Check out
Speaker 4: her music. She's really dope.
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, It's Doughchi. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.