1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: never told your production of I Heart Radio, and welcome 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: to another Happy Hour. We are actually recording this one 4 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: at Happy our time on Friday. Happy Yeah, So cheers 5 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: to that huge Friday. Yes, I'm so excited. Also, as always, 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: drink responsibly if you choose to do so before we 7 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: get into this one. Here a rare Happy Hour disclaimer. 8 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: I am being self indulgent and I am being a 9 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: bit salty, and we are focusing largely on the fan 10 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: boy aspects of toxic fandom. But I want to acknowledge there. 11 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: I absolutely know there are toxic fan girls, and they 12 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: have bullied creators, and they have bullied people offline. I 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: had a friend who was She left her job because 14 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: of some really intense railo fans Kyler, Wrin and Ray 15 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: from Star Wars. So we should definitely come back and 16 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: talk about that again. I know we've talked about it 17 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: in a few past episodes, but for this one in particular, 18 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: kind of focusing on the fanboy aspect of toxic fandom. Uh, 19 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: and I also want to say, well, this might sound 20 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: like a hit piece to certain male UH. Star Wars graders. 21 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: It's not. It's absolutely not. I promise you it's not. 22 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: And also I want to say I thought about this, like, 23 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: perhaps way too much, but I was thinking about kind 24 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: of Star Wars books when I was younger, and you know, 25 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: sort of early fan fiction if you will, and those 26 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: weren't you know, people did make fun of them in 27 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: in culture at large and media large. They were popular 28 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: among Star Wars fans, which it was sort of still 29 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: kind of mocked at the time. And now that things 30 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: like the Mandalorian have made Star Wars or you know, 31 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: things like that of main nerdiness more mainstream, I don't 32 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: think there is mocked anymore. But that was a thing 33 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: that happened. However, I would still say it was mostly 34 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: men getting their work published, and I would still say 35 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: that these Star Wars books were held in higher regard 36 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: than women writing fan fiction. I think that this is changing. 37 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: But anyway, there are going to be some spoilers. They're 38 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: gonna be very light, like I hesitate and to even 39 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: call them spoilers. But it's one of those things where 40 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: I think if you thought about it, you could figure 41 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: out what I'm talking about, which means that Samantha is 42 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: going to be very kind and just listen to me 43 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: vent a lot. Yeah, yeah, and that I would also 44 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: like to thank my friends, the Katie's, the two katies 45 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: that I have in my life that are very close 46 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 1: to for letting me have a very intense text exchange 47 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: to get my feelings out. But anyway, all right, a 48 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: lot of things that I'm discussing are matters of opinion 49 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: and interpretation. I get that, even if it sounds like 50 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't. As I said, this is going to be 51 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: very self induligent. But Samantha, what are you sipping on? 52 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I am keeping it light with my what's called light 53 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: sky Blue move, mainly because I just want to sip 54 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: on something that it's not too heavy. And yeah, sometimes 55 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: beer may be super sleepy, and I'm just saying, like 56 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: the the obviously the higher alcohol content, but like I 57 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: p A s and any of the craft independent that 58 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: I do love makes me sleepy. So I feel like 59 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: I need to be aware of for this conversation, just 60 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: for you. Um so I'm sleeping on just a generic beer, 61 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: what about you? Okay, Well that's actually that's perfect because 62 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: we are I didn't even specify what spoilers you might 63 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: have to worry about. We're talking about Scream and Star 64 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: Wars bo uf in here. Uh, and you know the 65 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: the Blue Sky, Blue Moon. There's an indoor moon Star 66 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: Wars parody of that beer. So you're you're right right 67 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: in in. I was gonna say in fashion that's not correct, 68 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: but I am sipping on what is essentially a Gin 69 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: and Tonic, but spicy because I'm feeling very spicy for 70 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: this episode. I just put some hot sauce in there, 71 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: and it's actually really good. It's kind of nice kick 72 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: m I like it. Yes, Yes, So all right, let's 73 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: get into this because I got a let's say, a 74 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: lot of franchises are getting rebooted or are they have 75 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: new entries that are coming out right now, And we've 76 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: talked about a lot of them, including and just like 77 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: that recently the Sex in the City. It's like, reboot 78 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: is not necessarily correct, but yeah, continuing story, continuing story, 79 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: Thank you the Matrix. We did a whole feminist movie 80 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: Friday on that We've mentioned Halloween, Uh, Scream and of 81 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: course Star Wars all the time Star Wars, and something 82 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: I've found interesting is that a lot of them seem 83 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: to address fans and how fans perceive them, or how 84 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: fans have influenced these franchises um or toxic fans, and 85 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: they almost have like a wink wink thing going on 86 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: about moving on from legacy characters or holding on too 87 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: tightly to how you think a character should be, and 88 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: how these characters are never going to be happy as 89 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: long as we keep bringing them back. And trust me, 90 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 1: I feel so sad for my fictional characters that I love. 91 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to see this movie, but I 92 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: want you to be happy, and I know the two 93 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: can't co exist and they can never co exist. No, not, 94 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: not if we're going to keep making this type of movie. 95 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: In this case, I'm talking about Scream, and I have 96 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: a fan fiction i'm writing right now, and I kid 97 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: you not, I'm at the I know how the story goes, 98 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm at the precipice of it going all wrong. I 99 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: can't write it, Samantha. I feel too guilty. I'm like, 100 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: I can't do this to you. The tragedy is just 101 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: too much tragedy and it's too much I like, I 102 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: want you to be happy, So I've I've actually skipped 103 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: the traumatic part and I started writing the healing from 104 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: the traumatic part. I mean, that's not a bad thing. 105 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: I think I could work. I think that's fine, but 106 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 1: it's fine. I never used to have that problem before, 107 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: but now I'm like, I cannot write, I cannot do 108 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: this to you, but I still have it hanging there, like. Oh, Also, 109 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: I want to say I learned some new fandom terms. 110 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: And this is from TV troops dot com quote. When 111 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: a creator answers a question about their work, should they 112 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: provide an in universe answer are real life answer? The 113 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: former is the watson Ian perspective, the latter doyalist oh 114 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: as in like Watson and Doyle's the writer. Okay, I 115 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: get it, I get yes. Yes, I bring this up because, um, 116 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: there's been some criticism of specifically Book of Boba. Fette 117 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: is Like, I get I being like a lot of 118 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,119 Speaker 1: fans get why you have to make these decisions based 119 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: on budget or technology or yeah, just basically plot stuff. 120 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: But you didn't explain it in universe like I get 121 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: your real life limitations, but you were kind of just 122 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: like okay, and you didn't really give it an answer. 123 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: So it's I had never heard of that before, but 124 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: I was like, yes, that's because all the time you're 125 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: thinking about, like, oh, I wonder why they could do this. 126 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: I bet they didn't have the money or something like that, 127 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: so that they are those terms. And yes, of course 128 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: I want to talk about a fiction we looked down 129 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: upon fan fiction when women in non binary folks write it, 130 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: but we laud it and make it into movies or 131 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: TV shows when it comes to men. And on top 132 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: of that, how toxic fan boys and studios are controlling 133 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: what material gets made and who gets to participate in 134 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: making it. If I could like make a thesis statement 135 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: of the like anger that I'm feeling, which, by the way, 136 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: if this was a different show, I would read that 137 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: texas shape I was going off. I was going off. 138 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: I think it is. I'm frustrated with who gets decide 139 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: what cannon is. And then I'm frustrated with the fact 140 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: that toxic fandom is also influencing who gets to decide 141 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: what cannon is when we are also making fun of 142 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: fan fiction, which is what you are doing, right. Yeah, 143 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: So I do also want to put in here. I've 144 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: said it time and time again. Fan fiction is a hobby. 145 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: It for a lot of people, it's a hobby, and 146 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: it's not like ever intended to go beyond that. It's 147 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: like if you like playing soccer and you're not ever thinking, oh, 148 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to be a professional one day, you just 149 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: like playing soccer. And I had somebody tell me recently 150 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: you could make money if you, you know, had a 151 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: Patreon on and people could read your fan fiction, and 152 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: I said, I sure could. But that kind of ruins 153 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: to me what fan fiction is, which is this sort 154 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: of beautiful free space where we're all doing that, and 155 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: then I think it would become this capitalist thing, which 156 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: is part of what I'm talking about here is part 157 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: of the problem. So it's as seemingly simple as a 158 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: topic as this is, there are a lot of layers 159 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: and my mind is always percolating on it. So wait 160 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: for for fan fiction that has become successful. Is that 161 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: the same thought process like they did they sell out? 162 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Or is it like you know, we want that too, 163 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: uh to? It's not they sold out to me. There's 164 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: plenty of fan fiction and this is the point I'm 165 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: gonna make throughout this that is really good and like 166 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: I would pay to read it, and plenty of it 167 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: is better than a lot of what I see. But 168 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: I guess my my worry is if like the whole 169 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: world of fan fiction got monetized. Like, I don't think 170 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: it's wrong that some things are picked up because they're 171 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: really resonating with people and then they make money. What 172 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: bothers me is like if the the idea that the 173 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: whole if I had to pay to read fan fiction, 174 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I would, and I love fan fiction. 175 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: You know, I love fan fiction. So it's more just 176 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: like my I don't want to turn that world into 177 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: a place where it's only monetized and capitalized. I I 178 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: like that some people have found success, and I think 179 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: that some people could even I think one person said, 180 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: what if it was like you just got the update 181 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: early and that's the Patreon that you paid for it? 182 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: Is I maybe there's ways it could work. I just 183 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: don't want the hole you would pay Yeah, sometimes yes 184 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: I would, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got no real problem. 185 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: I do have a problem with, like some people who 186 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: have made success from fan fiction writing fan fiction and 187 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: then looking down on fan fiction getting mad when people 188 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: write fan fiction about their work. That polished me. But 189 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: that's kind of a separate that's fair, that's though, Yeah, 190 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: that's a separate Istione critic M hm. So this was inspired. 191 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: This whole thing was inspired by yes, the Book of 192 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: Boba Fett recently ending, um, but also a recent day 193 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: dream I had of like what if I got to 194 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: write a Star Wars show? Like what would I do? Uh? 195 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: And then I had the almost immediate shutting down of 196 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: this dream because not because I didn't think I couldn't 197 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: do it, but because I thought two things in quick succession. One, 198 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: these men doing it are more qualified. Two, I don't 199 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: want to deal with the inevitable fan boy backlash um right, 200 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: which is not good because if it if that's one 201 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: of the first things I think, Um, that's very like, 202 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: that's already gate keeping, that's already like okay, these men 203 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: know better, which you know they might, but it's not. 204 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: It was more of a just immediate shutting down of 205 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: no way it compete. And it was less of oh yeah, 206 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: they've been working in film and movie and writing. It 207 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: was more of fair men in this like nerdy world. 208 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: And then the second, like the fanboy backlash that I 209 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: was immediate. I don't want to deal with that. I 210 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: don't want to and I know people who have left 211 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: projects because of fan backlash and fanboy backlash specifically, so 212 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: that's already like it's already not great when it comes 213 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: to diversity in these fields, but for that to be 214 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: causing in this case, I'm thinking of women I know 215 00:12:53,720 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: to leave. That's making it worse, and I do I 216 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: want to put in here, like, I know how annoying 217 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: it is for people to look at your job and think, oh, 218 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: I could do that when you've had training or been 219 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: in the business for years, total respect, but still like 220 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: it's just I don't know. I guess I'm questioning who 221 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: has afforded these opportunities because I still think I could 222 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: write something pretty good. I think I think you could 223 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: do I think I could you definitely. It frustrates me 224 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: that I just instantly doubted that, Like even though I 225 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: was like this idea, I think I could do that, 226 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh, no, you can never 227 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: do that. I will say. Also, having to deal with studios, 228 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: especially big studio like Disney, it seems like a real nightmare. 229 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I could do that very well, but 230 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: I think I could write the thing. You just have 231 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: to be famous before the fact, so we need to 232 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: make you famous famous and then have the support of 233 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: Mark Hamill and then you would be down. I would 234 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: melt into a puddle find you would. That's like if 235 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: you ever can't get a hold of me, like after 236 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: he ever tweets me or something, you can't get ald 237 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: of me, you know, by the bye our Twitter, the 238 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: stuff Mom never told you. Twitter has now they do updates. 239 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: He did not, really, they do updates of like you 240 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: might be interested in this person's tweet, and we follow 241 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people, and and out of nowhere it says, 242 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: here's Mark Hamills. Sweet. I didn't even know what it 243 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: was about. But because someone in the Twitter verse has 244 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: realized your love and we don't even follow Mark Hamill 245 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: on our stuff, Mom never told you, but it needed 246 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: to alert us about Mark Hamill's ticks tweet that I'm 247 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: pretty sure it's because of you, which is quite funny 248 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: because we don't mention it at all in Twitter. But 249 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: for me to get that notification or for me to 250 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: see that notation was like, this is Annie's fault somehow. 251 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't deny it. I don't deny it. So I 252 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about Scream, which was a movie that 253 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: I love. Um I saw it at the drive in 254 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: and then I was fortunate enough to see it again, 255 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: and I absolutely adored it, and it actually addressed some 256 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: of the stuff we're talking about. And one of the 257 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: things they have, of course, in every screen movie, they 258 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: have the scene where they sit down and they talk 259 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: about the rules of the horror movies, because if you 260 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: haven't seen these movies, they're very, very meta. Um And 261 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: in this one, the character I can't remember her name, 262 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: but she's like Randy from the original movies, her his niece. 263 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: She's like, we got to talk about recals and she 264 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: breaks into this definition of what a requal is and 265 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: she's like, you know, the fans are mad, like, you 266 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: can't have a straight reboot because they don't want that. 267 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: They want some of the legacy characters from the other one. 268 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: But you can't continue from what the last movie did 269 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: because they hated that. So you have to create something 270 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: that's not quite a sequel. It's a recal. It's in 271 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: between a reboot and a sequel. And so the movie 272 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: in itself, yes, exactly, and no joke. They bought up 273 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,479 Speaker 1: Star Wars. In that conversation the Last Jedi, in particular, 274 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: the first text I got about the movie, Oh my god, 275 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: they're talking about Star Wars and fan fiction and Mary 276 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: SEUs which was all the all these critiques, uh that 277 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: were thrown against, like the Mary Sue being Ray and 278 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: then this is just fan fiction, which is part of 279 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: what I think is really frustrating me because it is 280 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: fan fiction. But you're making it sound like it's good 281 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: when they do it how you want them to do it, 282 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: but it's not good when they don't do it, um 283 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: the way you think is the appropriate, ray, appropriate way, appropriate, right. 284 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: But they also talked about in this movie. They talked 285 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: about toxic fan boys and toxic fandom and I wish 286 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: I could spoil the ending because it's so good and 287 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts about it. But essentially it's 288 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: like fans, this toxic fan culture, thinking they're entitled to 289 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: a thing, getting angry when they don't get that thing, 290 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: and then getting violent when they don't get that thing, 291 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: and trying to create something through violence that they believe 292 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: is better. Also, it is all about kind of it's 293 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: very parallel to Rage Journey. I'll sleep it at that. 294 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: So good, but yes, let us talk about the Star Wars. 295 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: So okay, I've been fired up. I've been fired up. Yeah, yeah, 296 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: So I think I was getting really angry watching there's 297 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: been a lot of an announcements around Star Wars lately, 298 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: and also have the book of both Beet and I 299 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: was just getting angry and angrier about this idea that 300 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: like these kind of white fan boys getting paid millions 301 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: of dollars to write fan fiction while it's so down 302 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: upon and other like any other way, and but you're 303 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: doing the same thing. You're doing the same thing. You're 304 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: just a dude and you're doing it and you've got money. 305 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: And like maybe I'm not even saying they're not talented. 306 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I'm kind of annoyed at this 307 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: where why we are differentiating where well, they're doing it 308 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: so that's not fan fiction, but it is. It absolutely is, uh. 309 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's proving to me over and 310 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: over again that they these kind of fan boys at large, 311 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: I'll say, missed the power of the ending of Return 312 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: of the Jedi, which I think is feminist in nature 313 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: and that's the whole thing, And that they connect hardcore 314 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: with like ass slash failure characters and think that violence 315 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: and combat is the answer. Which I've actually thought a 316 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: lot about this, and I want to come back and 317 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: do it an episode on the glorification of the Asp. 318 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, when so when a lot of these fanboys 319 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: grew up who hated Return to Jedi by the way, 320 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: they hated it when it came out, Uh, they got 321 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: to fix it, which to me is just like constantly 322 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: it's you know, I love being a fan, but it's 323 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: also sad sometimes. Um. I figured out that was a 324 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: supernatural right when I was getting into it in the ending, 325 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: and there was so much debate and even today not 326 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: too lost. I somehow got it on TikTok and they're 327 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: debating about who they hate and why they hate them, 328 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: and I was like, that seems unnecessary. Yes, agreed, agreed, 329 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: And I tried really hard. I try really really hard 330 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: because I am a big fan of stuff, Like I 331 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: don't want to make people feel bad about something they're 332 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: a fan of, as long as it's not like horror 333 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: Pole or whatever, like if we have different opendence, because 334 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm very sensitive to that actually, and so I try 335 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: to be mindful of you know, like there's a certain 336 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: character that you brought back that I hate in book, 337 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: but I know a bunch of people like him. So 338 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: I was trying to be like, yeah, oh I was 339 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: screaming at the TV. No. I feel like from the 340 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: Rebels portion that I saw that cad Bane should have 341 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: been fighting Finnic, but I was like, okay, that's true, 342 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: or the bad Batch it was a bad Batch where 343 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: they find yeah bad Batch. Yeah yeah, and so again, yeah, 344 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: I try to be like it's not it's okay, my experience, 345 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: but yeah. It also cracks me up that a lot 346 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: of fanboys who were behind the whole not my Luke 347 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: Skywalker thing or mad that he wasn't a cinnamon role anymore. 348 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: But if I told him what a cinnamon role was, 349 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: they would deny it. They would deny that that was 350 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: not masculine enough for them, absolutely, So that kind of 351 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: cracks me up. Also, just another thread, Patro Pascal is 352 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: essentially playing the same character and with the same dilimma 353 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: in terms of audience, which again I don't want to 354 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: spoil things, but in the last of Us, so that 355 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: was kind of I kept thinking that, like, wow, it's 356 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: the same, Oh you're doing he playing the Mendo character 357 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: in the last character Okay, Um, yeah, So I guess 358 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: what's really annoying to me is that, yes, these toxic 359 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: fanboys are controlling what gets made in terms of like, uh, 360 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: like the review bombing or just we're asking people on 361 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: social media, like all these things that are intimidating people 362 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: like me. Not that I'm saying I could, I'm going 363 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 1: to succeed, but like I wouldn't even think of it, 364 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: like I was immediately no because of this. And that 365 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: is a term of gate keeping, and that at least 366 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: somewhat along with studios interfering. That's that's just in fluence 367 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: saying these franchises in particular so heavily, and not just 368 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: Star Wars. And on top of that, a lot of 369 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: the writers paid to write this glorified fan fiction are 370 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: still men who I think would be outraged if it 371 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: was called fan fiction. I think they would be real piste. 372 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: So do we know Foloni stance on fan fiction because 373 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: he the way he describes why he loves it so much, 374 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: it sounds like he's talking about fan fiction because he 375 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: was like, I took the story, and I would imagine 376 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: what if Yeah, I don't know, but I imagine it 377 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: would not be good because my thing is like I 378 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: still think even if even if he was like, okay, yeah, 379 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: fan fiction there's still that hang up on that idea 380 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: that fan fiction is written by girls, young girls who 381 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: just want to have sex with like characters they like 382 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: and that creeps them out and they dismiss it, which 383 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: is not true. It's not the case like that can't exist, 384 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: and I don't think there's anything wrong with that existing, right, Wait, 385 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: but not the point of like when boys would have 386 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: pictures of scantily clad celebrities at the same kind of level, 387 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: except it's not, Yeah, but that's that's okay because male 388 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: sexuality is fine, but when it comes to young girls, 389 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: that's not fine, Like that's creepy. Interesting. Yeah, I mean 390 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: this is I have a lot of experience, as we've 391 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: discussed in the world of fan fiction, so this is 392 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: a lot of my opinion and I will acknowledge that, 393 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: but I've also I've got experience. I mean maybe that's 394 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 1: ultimately what I'm trying to say is, can we just 395 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: like stop pretending that it's only young girls who have 396 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: some kind of sexual thing that freaks you fiction that 397 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: you're looking down on when that's what you are doing. 398 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying right, and I'm not even like, again, 399 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: I have no idea. Maybe they're totally into fan fiction, 400 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: but it just I just feel like a lot of 401 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: people would be furious, like not just mad, but like 402 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: outraged if you said the concept of labeling, yeah, like oh, 403 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: that's that's not academic and that's not good, so therefore no, 404 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: And then I think like, yeah, I guess it's just 405 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: frustrating because they make a lot of money and they 406 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: get to decide what cannon is a right and right 407 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: now I'm still confused by that, like that's still that 408 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. How is it cannon? Now? Okay? Cool? Cool, cool, 409 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: Look I have to ask you that. All the time, 410 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: I was like what, Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. 411 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: So I have my own headcanon pretty pretty well. So 412 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I ignore that this happened, because no way 413 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: I'll accept this. Yeah, it's a whole thing, um bringing 414 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: up so many issues right now. I it was outraged 415 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: over the past two days. I was like, my friend 416 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: she texted me, it sounds like you're grieving, and I 417 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: was like, maybe, but perhaps you are. I also am 418 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: very like I try very hard, like this will pass. 419 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm right now, I'm feeling it real hard, but 420 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: this will pass. And I'm I try really hard not 421 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: to be like it's not worth In my opinion, it's 422 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: worth getting upset over, but it's not worth getting that 423 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: upset over, like I have ultimately no control, even though 424 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: I was also thinking about that, like what if a 425 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: bunch of I don't know, feminist Luke Skywalker fans got 426 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: on and we're like, hey, creators, if you don't care 427 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: this like the fan boys, could you imagine? Gosh? I 428 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: was so mad when I write this. I when I 429 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: wrote this outlet, I could tell because I wrote, they 430 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: are the ones with attachment issues explanation. I agree, I 431 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: think that's true. Past Actually, I was like, even you agree, 432 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: you said it. You can't agree with yourself and everyone 433 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: who said it. I can't agree with fast Annie who 434 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: was in the Thrones of emotion. Oh my gosh, so 435 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: much angst. And then I pay me in all caps 436 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: are consult me. That's all I'm saying. I think I 437 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: could be a pretty good consultant. I don't know. I 438 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: think you've proven yourself on movie Crush, especially you're teaching 439 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: Chuck so much the Jedi Master Star Wars, and it's like, 440 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta let go of my emotions. I 441 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna release them into the force working on it, um, 442 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: But let me ask you a real quick because I 443 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: feel like I need to and go ahead and tell 444 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: y'all this is a spoiler for Bubba fet So if 445 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: you want to pause it, skip over it for a minute, 446 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: you can. So Grog was decided not to be a Jedi. Correct, 447 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: that's where we're at. And this is with Mandalorian. Yeah, 448 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: he's decided it at this point in time because he's 449 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: essentially the same choice that you ought to gave Luke, 450 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: where he's like, you can't go save your friends or 451 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: you're treating it's kind of the same thing. So Luke 452 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: a parallel there, a parallel journey that kind of because 453 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: of because of how grow Goo ages. It's not gonna work. 454 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't know again, Like that's one of those things 455 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: where I'm like, I don't know if this is your 456 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: real life problem or you're in canon problem, but uh, 457 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: the way they're currently handling it, it won't work, um, 458 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: because Luke will be dead by then. Okay, moving on 459 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: past past that spoiler, past the spoiler, but yes, thank 460 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: you to all of my friends and some of you 461 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: listeners who have listened to whom we just vent. I 462 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: mean the text exchanges I've had through these tough fandom times. 463 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: Uh and cheers cheers today, tears yes, yes, And go 464 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: write all the fan fiction. Go read all the fan fiction. 465 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: There's amazing stuff. I mean, this was like this book 466 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: of Boba Fette thing was like chuming the fan fiction 467 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: waters all of a sudden, A lot of people are fiction. 468 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: There was a lot of people with a lot of opinions. 469 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: This show almost as many as uh the Marvel shows. 470 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, and and just like that too, because 471 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: it was very it was very divided, it was very polarized. 472 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: I would say, I feel like the Mandalorian people just 473 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: either really just loved like it felt like that was 474 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: like a good show for people to be back into 475 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 1: this world, but like the rest of them had so 476 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: much Why did you do it this way? I was like, old, damn. Yeah, 477 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of my biggest I keep hearing 478 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus. You gave it like a red gigball because 479 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: the last three episodes we're not at That was an 480 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: ad for the Mandalorian season three, So that's and I 481 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: don't really even like Boba Fett, but I was willing 482 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: to give him a try, and then they were like, 483 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: never mind, it's going to be about this now and 484 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: he's not even in the episode. I love Finic, so 485 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: I was very excited. I feel like they should have 486 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: done more with her, definitely, but okay, agreed, agreed. Well, 487 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: thanks for letting me have this space all day. I 488 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: could keep going and going. I feel like we're gonna 489 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: have another one soon. I think we might when I've 490 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: like settled down a little bit. Oh so thanks the 491 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: listeners for allowing me to have this journey. As always, 492 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: we would love to hear from you. You can emails 493 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: at Steffane to your Mom, stuff at I Hurt me 494 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: to dot com. You can find us on Twitter at 495 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: moms podcast or on Instagram and stuff I Never told you. Thanks. 496 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: It's always to our super producer Christina. 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