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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Morning. Everybody is the j n V.

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Speaker 1: Just hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got

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Speaker 3: a special guest in.

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Speaker 2: The building, one of the best to ever do it.

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Speaker 3: Celebrate in the twentieth anniversary of the Motivation One on

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Speaker 3: one Ladies and gentlemen, j.

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Speaker 1: Z what I'm doing, What I'm doing, what's happening? Good morning?

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Speaker 1: Good morning. How you feeling, brother man, great man, better

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Speaker 1: than most, you know what I mean? Great?

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Speaker 3: I would need I would say I was talking to

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Speaker 3: somebody yesterday this is the other day and he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm my way to Jez House.

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Speaker 1: I'm like for what He was like, I'm opening up

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Speaker 1: for Jesus.

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Speaker 2: I said, what you mean to open up?

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Speaker 1: It's like gz DJ as a Hoby used to do

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Speaker 1: it to shut up.

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Speaker 4: He was like, yes, DJ, Yeah, you know I used

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Speaker 4: to DJ back in the day when I was, you know,

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Speaker 4: young in the hood.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I hustled up on.

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Speaker 4: The DJ set and uh, I was just going the hood,

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Speaker 4: just DJ on people's borges.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of my thing. But that's how I

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Speaker 1: got into music. You know what I'm saying. So for me,

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Speaker 1: it's just like it's like a pastime.

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Speaker 4: But you know, like the great Andre three thousand said,

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Speaker 4: if you can't find a vibe, you gotta create it.

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Speaker 1: So I just.

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Speaker 4: Invite dope people over to my crib, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. Curate it. You know, we might do some

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Speaker 4: some red wine and Popeye's Chicken, and I might throw

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Speaker 4: the set and we just get a cracking vibe.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting.

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Speaker 5: So that's how you've been feeling like you haven't been

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Speaker 5: finding a vibe late least you've been trying to create one.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I like to travel a lot, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And I like to live, but

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Speaker 4: also I like to you know, like turn people onto

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Speaker 4: what I've learned when I've been around the world. So

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Speaker 4: it's just like different types of music, different types of curacis.

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Speaker 4: So it's just dope to have people come up to

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Speaker 4: your houses you trust and just vibe. You know, people

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Speaker 4: get tired of going our cameras everywhere. You know, some

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Speaker 4: very distinguished black people in Atlanta and they like to

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Speaker 4: really live. So I just like, come over to my

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Speaker 4: crib man, we just hang out, you know what. I'm

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Speaker 4: saying it's dope, though, is.

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Speaker 5: It like, is it all rapid?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: No, No, it was like no, it was like you

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Speaker 3: play everything, yeah, house music, old school, Yeah, it's vibe.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I got so, I

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Speaker 4: got a little soup, I got a little something. You

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Speaker 4: should come nick safe.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm you're gonna tell about everybody in the house.

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Speaker 5: Whoever in the house, I tell you everybody year anniversary

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Speaker 5: and one of the greatest hip hop albums?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: What does it feel like mentally to have to revisit

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Speaker 4: To be honest with you, it feels like that album

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Speaker 4: was supposed to happen, uh, and even twenty years later,

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Speaker 4: just the the obstacles that I had to go through to,

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Speaker 4: feels like deja vu. But the but the consequences are

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Speaker 4: not dire. They just real life things and you got

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Speaker 4: to show your adversity. And it feels like I was

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Speaker 4: just talking to somebody about the other day. It's just like, now,

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Speaker 4: Soul Survivor really resonates with me. It makes sense, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Because I'm a soul surviving and

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Speaker 4: I'm listening to the word. I'm like, oh, this is me,

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Speaker 4: this is who I am. You know when I wrote it,

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Speaker 4: it was a record. Now this is my life and

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Speaker 4: it's just like to be twenty because you got to think,

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Speaker 4: like you think about Park and Big you know, what

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You.

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Speaker 4: Celebrating all eyes on me life after death twenty years later.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. Park might have been DJ

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm saying, but I'm living life

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Speaker 4: and I'm going through you know, one of those stages

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Speaker 4: this world, but I'm not of it, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I get to watch it. But at

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Speaker 4: the same time, I already put my work in so

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Speaker 4: I get to sit back. But I'm dealing with real

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Speaker 4: stuff now, running companies and doing deals and and you know,

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Speaker 4: empowering other people. So it's now I got to really

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Speaker 4: practice my skills of leadership, but with my catalog behind me,

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Speaker 4: because I can stand on that because it's solid you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I'm not you know what,

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Speaker 4: I'm frank badly amazed. I could keep going if I

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Speaker 4: wanted to, but.

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Speaker 1: I got to.

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Speaker 3: You have survivors remorse at all because I used to.

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Speaker 1: You have so many people that you ran in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I used to. But everybody know me, they know what

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Speaker 1: I'm solid. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, my life is about peace,

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Speaker 4: join freedom, and I ain't e I'm saying that to

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Speaker 4: say a lot of people don't.

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Speaker 1: Survive the war. Baby, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It's like I ain't got no reason to go back

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Speaker 4: and then to approve you know what I'm saying. I'm

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Speaker 4: just trying to live my life, make sure my people straight,

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Speaker 4: you know, put me into people as I could put

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Speaker 4: on and keep you know, just you know, just inspiring

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Speaker 4: and involving my culture, which is why I'm even doing

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Speaker 4: this symphony tour, which is crazy because I think I'm

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Speaker 4: the first one to ever take a symphony around the

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Speaker 4: to celebrate, you know, my first debut album, which is

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Speaker 4: about three four times platinum.

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Speaker 1: I ain't checked last.

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Speaker 2: Time, but I can't motivation on one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's crazy because it's like, you know, the

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Speaker 4: only time I remember putting on the suit is for

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Speaker 4: a funeral or wedding. It's a celebration and it's not

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Speaker 4: just about it's not just about you know, the music,

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Speaker 4: It's about everybody who came along with his journey with me.

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Speaker 1: That will celebrate.

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Speaker 4: Think about where you was twenty years ago, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Where you were twenty years ago, where

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Speaker 4: y'all at now, it's a celebration of that because that

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Speaker 4: music reminds you of that time you was out there grinding.

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Speaker 1: But look what you grind it too.

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Speaker 4: So this is a reason for everybody put on a

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Speaker 4: And I do want to say this, this is not

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Speaker 4: this is not the opera.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna sit down and cross your legs. This

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Speaker 4: is a party, you know what I'm saying. At the

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Speaker 4: same time, you know, shout out to Adam Blackstone. You know,

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Speaker 4: he helped me produce it. De Hodges, he wrote the music.

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Speaker 4: He's actually conducting it. Those brothers are crazy about DJ

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Speaker 4: drama with me, So you know, it's a part that

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Speaker 1: It's a celebration saying.

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Speaker 3: When you were making this album twenty years ago, right,

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Speaker 3: were you just making songs or were you thinking the future?

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Speaker 3: Were you thinking because you look at a lot of

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Speaker 3: right that first album, the catalog's not strong.

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Speaker 1: They can't go on tour.

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Speaker 3: Were you thinking about that when you're writing this first

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Speaker 1: I'm just I was.

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Speaker 4: Just trying to stay alive and free, and I just

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Speaker 4: wanted to be heard. And the reason why that album

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Speaker 4: is so solid is because I put everything in that.

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Speaker 4: You know, I didn't have another shot, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. It wasn't like no label was looking for me.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I had spent all these

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Speaker 4: all these all this money to build this buzz and

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Speaker 4: I had this one opportunity. And you gotta think, like

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Speaker 4: I lost my voice, I tore my vocal cords, you know,

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Speaker 4: I had Bell's part. Like all these things happened at

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Speaker 4: the album got leaked four weeks before it came out.

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Speaker 4: Think about that. I was up against all that and

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Speaker 4: I'm still like praying, you know what I'm saying, And

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Speaker 4: it happened. So when I look back twenty years ago,

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Speaker 4: like I didn't realize what I was doing, but I

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Speaker 4: know to change the dejectory of my family and our

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Speaker 4: generation of wealth and getting my family in a better

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Speaker 4: place that this is all I had, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I put everything in that trappa dye

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Everything, by the way, I probably you know it was

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Speaker 1: It right, statute of limitations or put that out there.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting what you said about the record

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Speaker 5: sol survivor, because at that point in your life you

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Speaker 5: had survived to a certain extent, but you didn't you

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Speaker 5: didn't feel that way.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean you got to think about it.

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Speaker 4: I didn't really even start celebrating life until the recession.

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Speaker 4: I was out of it, bro I was drinking, smoking, living.

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Speaker 4: I'm just holding on, you know what I'm saying, because

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Speaker 4: I didn't know then I woke up one day It's like, damn,

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Speaker 4: I'm still free, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know, at any moment it could go yeah, and

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Speaker 4: That's some type of stress you don't even want, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because it's just it's every day,

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Speaker 4: it never stops, and you're always on edge. You're living

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Speaker 4: from uh you know, you're living from a survival mindset,

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Speaker 4: you know I'm saying. And you know when I woke

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Speaker 4: the Recession, That's when I realized what abundance was.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying because now I'm like, I'm a superstar. You know,

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Speaker 4: I was telling them the other day. Man, I got

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Speaker 4: in the gym, got myself together. My first show in

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Speaker 4: Boston for the Recession tour. You know, I get the

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Speaker 4: stage and I'm telling the security guard, Hey, yo, they

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Speaker 4: throwing stuff at me. We got to get out here

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Speaker 4: and get down. He's like, sir, No, their panties like this.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, object.

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Speaker 1: Bros and stuff.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, Yo, this is this is different because

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Speaker 4: you got to think when I was doing shows, when

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Speaker 4: Doug Motivation came out, all the gangsters in the front.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, all the all the hustlers.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't no women. I didn't have any women fans.

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Speaker 4: You know, shout out to the women fans out there,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I didn't have that.

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Speaker 5: So when you put that record, the record with Tree

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Speaker 5: songs on the album, that was I'm trying to tell you, Jesus,

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Speaker 1: And by the way you.

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Speaker 4: Piece attracts peace, Chaos attracts chaos anyway around that. You

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Speaker 5: Do you remember the moment when jay Z told you

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Speaker 4: He said to me, you got a brand. He texts me.

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Speaker 1: But twenty years later, that's what it is.

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Speaker 4: I'm still doing what I know how to do best,

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Speaker 4: and that's what he was trying to get me to see.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Because you know, music was changing.

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Speaker 4: But then I would have you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You know, like you know it was snap music, it

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Speaker 4: I'm in the club competing with that, thinking, man, maybe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but didn't he tell you that that album was

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah he did. He did. He hit me up.

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Speaker 4: He was just like yo, I think when he heard

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Speaker 4: He was like, Yo, this this one here gonna live

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Speaker 1: You're like, man, if.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that helped me when he told

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Speaker 4: I had three verses and then he said, uh, I'm

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Speaker 4: I still on the hook, and I remember I never

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Speaker 4: He was like I got it, and I'm like what

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Speaker 4: He's like? I got the jay Z versus me a interview.

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Speaker 4: I told the guy, I think it's Julio. I said, Julio,

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Speaker 4: you got We stopped the interview. I got hold up

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Speaker 2: Verse more than a hustle on the Death Kitchen cover.

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Speaker 1: I was happy at first, but then I started thinking.

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Speaker 5: That it's okay records.

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Speaker 2: Ever, yeah I was.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was like, damn, okay, how did this work?

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Speaker 1: You know? I think I got him back on seeing

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Motivation one on one.

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Speaker 3: Is there a record that didn't make the album because

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Speaker 3: I wish that one made that album.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a bunch of like mixtape stuff that

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Speaker 4: Because one of the interns who was up there, who

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Speaker 4: did anything on his records, and I left my drives

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00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:59,560
Speaker 4: at Patchworks, So I guess he got mad and leaked

440
00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,359
Speaker 4: the album four weeks before it came out. So now

441
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:10,679
Speaker 4: Bell's palsy, uh my vocal cords. All these things happening

442
00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,920
Speaker 4: at once, and now the album's leaked. So now I'm

443
00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,920
Speaker 4: sitting there and I'm like, what am I gonna do?

444
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,480
Speaker 4: Because now I got to think of the next plan.

445
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,399
Speaker 4: So I can't go back to the streets. You know

446
00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,240
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Because now I'm like, damn, like this

447
00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,080
Speaker 4: is it, And I'll never forget I went to pass Works.

448
00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,119
Speaker 4: You know, I caught a lawsuit. I'll say that, you

449
00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,280
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Because I had.

450
00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,400
Speaker 2: To bring the books.

451
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,520
Speaker 4: Read right and and uh, you know, actually it helped me,

452
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,640
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So you know what they say,

453
00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,200
Speaker 4: no no weapon, you know, form against me, so possible

454
00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:44,879
Speaker 4: help me because it went to all the bootlegs and

455
00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,840
Speaker 4: it spread it everywhere. And the thing that I had

456
00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,040
Speaker 4: the most anxiety about out of every thing was I

457
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,200
Speaker 4: had to pick a single right. And on mixtapes they

458
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,400
Speaker 4: try to put that they pick it for you. So

459
00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,960
Speaker 4: by the time he leaked it and it was already going,

460
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,200
Speaker 4: I didn't know what I was going with. And I

461
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,800
Speaker 4: was still pushing trapa Dye the song, and the label

462
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 4: called me and Secure called me. He's like yo, He's like, yeah,

463
00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,119
Speaker 4: you can shoot trapa Dive. That's what you want to do.

464
00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,359
Speaker 4: We're shooting Soul survivor how do you want to shoot

465
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,840
Speaker 4: the video. Came to Brooklyn, shot the video. Everybody showed up, Hold,

466
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,240
Speaker 4: Jim Jones, Cameron, you name it.

467
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:16,880
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

468
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,359
Speaker 4: It was It was festive and the video you know,

469
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,360
Speaker 4: we did it like paid him full. It was crazy.

470
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 4: It was probably one of the most memorable moments in

471
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,320
Speaker 4: my career. You know what I'm saying, Because you know,

472
00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,679
Speaker 4: you always heard stories about Brooklyn, like, ain't nobody come

473
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,639
Speaker 4: to Brooklyn. They're like, Jesus, we love you, Like I'm

474
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 4: I'm out in Brooklyn shooting the video and everybody from

475
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 4: the blocks coming out and.

476
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,200
Speaker 1: The whole label was there.

477
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 4: A lot of guys from Atlanta came in like it was,

478
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 4: it was, it was it And when the video came out,

479
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 4: it was gone. And I didn't And I told I

480
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 4: was telling somebody that I knew Akon from being around

481
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 4: the way because it was like him and Boo.

482
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell him apart, right, you know what I'm saying.

483
00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 4: So I didn't realize he was that big overseas and

484
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,199
Speaker 4: I didn't. And then this was the first collaboration that

485
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 4: I've ever done, so I didn't realize doing a record

486
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 4: with somebody that you can actually tap into their fan

487
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,360
Speaker 4: base too, on a national level or a global level, right,

488
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 4: And I ain't know that. So it went from me

489
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 4: being able to walk through the airport, you know what

490
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 4: I'm saying seven a m. To catch my flight to

491
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 4: like now I'm walking through the airport. Everybody, Hey, con

492
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 4: I like, where you from?

493
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 1: Brother Africa? Man? We love you.

494
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh man, you know what I'm saying. So

495
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,359
Speaker 4: it was love and it was just like one thing

496
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 4: I say about the boy Khin. He's different, you know

497
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because he's over there, you know, and

498
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 4: they love him.

499
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 1: You know.

500
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 4: I shows with him in Africa and I'm like, okay,

501
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 4: like what is going on? Nobody knows who I am,

502
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 4: but know who you are. And he was like, you

503
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 4: got to be over here a little bit more. And

504
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 4: I love that, you know what I'm saying. And we

505
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 4: over the years hit me up, you know, over the

506
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 4: years we always stayed locked in.

507
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: Hear me up.

508
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 4: The other day, I was like, yo, we number one

509
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 4: on TikTok. I don't even know what that means, but

510
00:20:53,240 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah.

511
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 2: Really flippir of the judge, Yeah he did.

512
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably why he got them ten.

513
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get him off for about phone and

514
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 4: a half. But yeah, yeah, shout out to ma'a man.

515
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm shocked that you didn't know that you were such

516
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 1: a taxable. I'm really sitting here like how did you not?

517
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,479
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, like in the you know, like

518
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 4: I didn't know that then, you know what I'm saying,

519
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 4: cause you got to think like back then when I

520
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 4: was doing.

521
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: You know, I was I'm five eight, I was two sixty,

522
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 1: skin bad. I want drinking water. My danet was waffle

523
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 1: House and Crystal.

524
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I'm partying all day because

525
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 4: I didn't know if I was going to be home

526
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 4: for real.

527
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah I was in.

528
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 2: Now.

529
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,959
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah, not get it now.

530
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 4: I mean even on the intellectual level, like I know

531
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 4: that I can sit down smart with the best of them.

532
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 1: I know that for a fact.

533
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: We saw you with Neil.

534
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah shot and then I.

535
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 3: Said I was even saying a lot of women in

536
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 3: the commons saying, oh after the divorce, man, he looked

537
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 3: even better.

538
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I received that.

539
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: But I know that that was like an intense time.

540
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 3: You know, last year, you're going through all of that,

541
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 3: even with you know, the custody battle she did win

542
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 3: and everything.

543
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 5: Where are things with you on your ex now?

544
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: Peace? Yeah? Peace?

545
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 6: Man.

546
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 1: I just I'm I'm all about understanding.

547
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 4: I'm all about what's best for everybody, the greater you know,

548
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 4: the greater good. And it's just like I'm just telling you,

549
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 4: like my life, I tell myself this every day, like, man,

550
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 4: this is amazing. I don't got no enemies. I ain't

551
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 4: got no issues. I don't want no enemies. I don't

552
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 4: want no issues. I just want peace. I just want

553
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 4: joy and I just want freed. I love my freedom.

554
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like I love it, like

555
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 4: you just talk about I came up here independently. I

556
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 4: just call like I'm coming to the breakfast club. You

557
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like I ain't got a check in,

558
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 4: I ain't gotta you know, I ain't got to talk

559
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 4: to no label. I ain't got to do nothing to

560
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 4: shout out to death jam. I love y'all. But it's

561
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 4: just like freedom and ownership is is everything. You know

562
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Especially when you're talking art, you're talking culture,

563
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 4: talk to your mind. You know what I'm saying, Like

564
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 4: I've worked hard my whole life. This is like this,

565
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: this is the season of me. You know what I'm saying.

566
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: I'm putting myself first. It all costs, you know what

567
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's just like my piece is everything. Like

568
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 4: everybody didn't know me. Know that, you know what I'm saying.

569
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 4: They calm and be like, yeah, bro, Like I love you,

570
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 4: but don't call me even nothing crazy.

571
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

572
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: I want to ask you know, how was that because

573
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: you're very private, very private person, but that was so

574
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: public did not irk you at all, like everybody in

575
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 3: your business talking about you.

576
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 4: Well, I had to come to the realization that I

577
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: know who I am and that nobody else can't tell

578
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 4: me different. So as long as I stayed on the

579
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 4: path of integrity and staying true to myself, it wasn't

580
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 4: nothing really to worry about because anybody didn't know me,

581
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 4: Like I mean, I even heard y'all was up here, like, no,

582
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 4: I know, I know Jezu you know that. But that's

583
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 4: that's because my reputation exceeds me. I'm like, I ain't

584
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 4: on I ain't on nothing, you know what I'm saying.

585
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 4: That's I need to be you know what I'm saying.

586
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 1: And I'm not.

587
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 4: So it's just like it comes with the territory, you

588
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, he who wears the crown. It's

589
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: just like, you know, people talked about Jesus, you know

590
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, They're gonna talk about everybody.

591
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: Everybody's not gonna like you.

592
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 4: Now, if I'm a good person to you and you

593
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 4: don't like me, then there's a problem. But if you

594
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 4: don't like me because of what you heard or what

595
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 4: you think, then I ain't none of my spiritual business.

596
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 4: I can't do nothing about that, you know what I'm saying.

597
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 4: I can't even convince you because your mind has made up. However,

598
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 4: if you know me and we had some type of

599
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 4: interaction and action, I haven't done anything wrong to you,

600
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: then that says more about you than me, because now

601
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 4: you judge and now you judge me. There's no judgment

602
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 4: here because I'm not perfect by far. But if I

603
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 4: haven't done anything to you, then you can't take that

604
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 4: position because you know, the people around me got real

605
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 4: love for me and my friends in my circle, like

606
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 4: I never felt any type of just but the people

607
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: who wasn't for me of course, and that I mean

608
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 4: that did me a solid. Now I ain't got to

609
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 4: even worry about cutting you off.

610
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, would get married again? Hit

611
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: me up. I'm gonna be all the way on it.

612
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: I love my freedom and it has nothing to do

613
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: and has nothing to do with anything in the past.

614
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 4: I just love my freedom, you know what I'm saying,

615
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 4: Like I love it, you know I think like partners

616
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 4: are amazing, you know, I would think.

617
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 5: So, how did you feel when the Internet said you

618
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 5: were you were trying to holler at me along by

619
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 5: any means necessarily.

620
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 4: It wasn't lying, It was not lying. I don't know,

621
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: but I was real. Men, I never cheated like that. No,

622
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: I don't cheat me like that. I'm saying, like, that's

623
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 4: a little hanging fruit. If I'm not, I'm like, then

624
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: we got to be married. Like, I'm just not a cheater.

625
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 4: That's like, I'm not gonna cheat my friends, you know

626
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

627
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: Not I'm not. That ain't in my blood.

628
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: But but but you said I was trying to holler. Yeah,

629
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 4: I was, you know, but I had to be respectful

630
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 4: because I was still you know, finalizing, you.

631
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

632
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: So it was hard. It was tough saying focus.

633
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: They don't link it with everybody. They don't link you everybody, Vanity.

634
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: The other day, when you did that, they.

635
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: Would do that. They would do.

636
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 4: We love Cynthia. Man shout out to Cynthia. That's a home.

637
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. No, No, now the other one.

638
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just said on that real quick on.

639
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: The other one.

640
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely everything is filized. Park Leta hit the Park.

641
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna play about that.

642
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: So you said you might see her at some of

643
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: these shows.

644
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, she's invited. I know she has a

645
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: beautiful black dress. He's definitely invited.

646
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 5: I do want to know what what inspired you to

647
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 5: reimagine the album in this way though, because I'm sitting

648
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 5: I'm like your symphony orchestra, black tie, twist.

649
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: Your fingers up back.

650
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

651
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 4: Man. But when we did it with the we did

652
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 4: it in Atlanta was the first one.

653
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: It was.

654
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 4: There's no feeling like that because there was a lot

655
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 4: of people that I saw and by the way, I've

656
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: been trying to do this.

657
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: For you know, at least five years.

658
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 4: But it was like so many people that I saw

659
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: in the crowd that I knew personally that I was

660
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: just proud of where they was at because they're successful

661
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 4: this and that, but they don't want to come to

662
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: a show where they feel I want to bring my

663
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: woman out, I want to get you. I want to

664
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: go to dinner before and hit the spot after. This

665
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 4: is a celebration. This isn't a show or a concert.

666
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 4: This is a one night you know, one man, one

667
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 4: mic thing, and it's just like, why not celebrate the

668
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: evolution of it? And also I would like to add

669
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: that I feel like it's my moral obligation because I

670
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 4: was the one that told these kids that trapa down.

671
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 4: I feel like it's my moral obligation to show them

672
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 4: evolution in this and that you don't have to change

673
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 4: to evolve, you know what I'm saying. It's like, if

674
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 4: you make art, it should grow with you, right, it shouldn't.

675
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 4: You shouldn't have to be a different person, because I

676
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 4: think that's why they run into the roadblocks. It's just

677
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: like I gotta be thug forever, you know what I'm saying.

678
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 4: And that's if that's how you feel, that's how you feel.

679
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: But I don't.

680
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna gotta be on the block with my

681
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like now I'm in the boardrooms,

682
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 4: right and that's okay. And my thing is my is

683
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 4: my mind because I know I'm a lot of water

684
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 4: dos and I don't been through enough to know that

685
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 4: if the press is on, I'm not worried about losing

686
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 4: my job. They may be I'm gonna make sound decisions

687
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: because I've been through it before, so that's my gift.

688
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: But for the.

689
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 4: Culture, it hurts me to know these young men and

690
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 4: to see them in these situations. I care bro Like,

691
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 4: I don't care what nobody These are my These are

692
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: like my little brothers, and I know I can't change them, right,

693
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 4: so I can't judge them. The only thing I could

694
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: do is what I saw, like hold them do for me.

695
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: Just leave by example, you know what I mean, Just

696
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 4: do your thing and just leave the door open or

697
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 4: the back door at least, because it's not easy, like

698
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 4: to even get to this point and all the turmoil

699
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: and those that got closed on me just to even

700
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: do this this project, you know what I'm saying. I

701
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 4: had to really really realize, like, okay, you still you

702
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 4: So you gotta really, you know, do this the right

703
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 4: way and it's on your own. But you gotta realize

704
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: they ain't gonna let just let you in this.

705
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: Door like that.

706
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 4: But so I got to make sure I leave the

707
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 4: door open for the kids. It's coming up with the

708
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: generation behind it because if you really look at it,

709
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 4: when Trappa Daye dropped up motivation all this, if you've

710
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: seen the influx of street cats, that got into music

711
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: because there was like man, I saw Jesus, I know

712
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: people that he actually was affiliated with, got down with

713
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: whatever cities he'd been to, whatever, So I know, if

714
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 4: he can do it, I can do it. The only

715
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: problem is the rules are different because ain't nobody, ain't

716
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 4: no big homies, so it's like the wild, wild West,

717
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's probably why I'm listening

718
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: to the house music these days, you know what I'm saying,

719
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: because it's like I love the music, but it's a

720
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 4: different vibration, so I don't need that all day. I

721
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: can listen to it in the gym, right, but I'm

722
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 4: not gonna listen to it, you know when I get

723
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: up in the morning to go do what I gotta do,

724
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: because I want to keep it, you know. But at

725
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 4: the same time, I feel like it's my more gason,

726
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 4: like in my heart, you know what I'm saying, Like

727
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: that's my purpose to inspire and to help culture evolve,

728
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: Like that's that's my purpose.

729
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: Do you have conversations with the younger artists? And the

730
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: reason I ask is yeah, it's like you said, you know,

731
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: we talk about it all the time. We did a

732
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: lot of super stuff back then, but there was none

733
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: of this. There was no internet, right, They weren't telling

734
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 3: on themselves. But now it just seems like it's the

735
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: cool thing to tell everybody what you did, hate it

736
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: illegal or not, which is the wow.

737
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: Crazy because there's no integrity and there's nobody to follow,

738
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 4: which is why I don't do a lot of interviews.

739
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I come talk to y'all.

740
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: We don't kick it, but I don't got nothing to

741
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 4: say to somebody who's looking for ignorance. For me, you

742
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I'm not. I'm still operating by

743
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 4: the cold. You know what I'm saying. These people are

744
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: moving the goalposts. I don't like that. I don't want

745
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: to play in that game. You know what I'm saying.

746
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: Every time it's something different. Why is it something different

747
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 4: for them or not me, you know what I'm saying,

748
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: or us? So for me, I feel for them because

749
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: they don't got nobody to follow, you know what I'm saying.

750
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: And there's nothing like giving somebody this because you got

751
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 4: to think about it. One got the type of money

752
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: he got, but he ain't get Lebron money for playing.

753
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: So they're giving them a different type of money, and

754
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: they're using the money. They still got trauma, they still

755
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: got things going on that's so important to them that

756
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 4: they feel like they got to deal with. But now

757
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: you're giving them money to few the war.

758
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: Man.

759
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 5: I seen this kid on TikTok A Couples. Remember I

760
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 5: showing you that video. The dude was literally in his

761
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 5: room crying to his girlfriend because his object came up

762
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 5: on some money, right, and the way he was serious,

763
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 5: he was like, man like, man, they're gonna have all

764
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 5: the type of choppers and switching you ain't fair.

765
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, first of all, while you're recording this one.

766
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: He's probably trying to get a safe haven.

767
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: You know who it is.

768
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't respect it. You know.

769
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: I said I wasn't gonna talk about it when I

770
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: came up here because I feel like, ain't none of

771
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: my spiritual business. But as somebody who's been in the game,

772
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 4: a part of the game and in this world or

773
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: not of it, I just don't respect it. Ain't no integrity.

774
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 4: Like everybody getting up here, they talking too much. They're

775
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: saying too many things, and that's okay. Then the next

776
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: generation gonna do the same thing and even worse, it

777
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: even worse. And I'm only concerned about the culture because

778
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: at some point, when nobody respects it no more, they're

779
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 4: not going to respect the art form.

780
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: It don't even matter what you say. It'll be like

781
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: we'll be obsolete.

782
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Cause at nothing ain't no

783
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: there ain't no integrity behind what we're doing or saying,

784
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 4: because we're doing anything, and it looks like we're doing

785
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 4: anything for money, right, and I don't like that because

786
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: I'm not doing anything for money.

787
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

788
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: I probably turned down more than I accept because it

789
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 4: got to be in line with my purpose.

790
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: And that's just me. I'm not asking nobody else to

791
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: be that way.

792
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 4: But when you speak of a culture, you can see

793
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 4: why people kind of stay away from it because they're

794
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: kind of like, I don't know if I want to

795
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: be affiliated with that, you know what I'm saying, because

796
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't, you know, And if all my

797
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: kids are going to think is that you know that

798
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: I was an artist, and that's it. I'm a father first,

799
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: I'm a man first, you know what I'm saying. I'm

800
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 4: a CEO first. You know what I'm saying, I'm a

801
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 4: big brother first. You know what I'm saying, I'm all

802
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: the things. I'm a son, you know. So we can't

803
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 4: just get categorized and boxed into what we are as

804
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: far as coach and go live that out, because then

805
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 4: if something happened to your kids, are the ones that suffering.

806
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 4: You know, ain't nothing like having a daddy that was

807
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: rich and now we ain't got nothing because he made

808
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: a decision for what he thought was right.

809
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: They had nothing to do with anybody. And you asked

810
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: me earlier.

811
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: And I ain't calling no names because I ain't trying

812
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: to call nobody out because I love them, bro, I

813
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 4: don't want to set on these catch beds in their

814
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: house and they room like, hey man, we got to talk,

815
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: bro like on a call, like hey man.

816
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: What you got going? Bro Like, come pull up on me.

817
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this. Man. I'm did to so many times.

818
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: And I think that the disconnect is when they when

819
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: these labels are giving these kids these type of money, money.

820
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: Equals respect to them.

821
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 4: So it's like, I'm not listening to you because you

822
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 4: ain't doing nothing for me. And I got this, which

823
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: is fine now sustaining it is a whole different conversation,

824
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 4: but even keeping you because now you got the change

825
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: to change generational wealth, you know what I'm saying, or.

826
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: Either put those kids in.

827
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: It's a difference between your kids going to to public

828
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: school in private school or having those type of friends

829
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: when they grow up, because that's what it's about, like

830
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 4: their relationships and who they're gonna meet and grow up

831
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: with and go to college with and all that. Because

832
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: it ain't about you. It's about your kids, right. But

833
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 4: just imagine that everything's going great, everybody's loving this new

834
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 4: life we got, and then you just make a decision.

835
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 4: It's purely based on the motions and ego. And I

836
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 4: tell everybody, man, a bad day for the ego is

837
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 4: a great day for the soul.

838
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

839
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: Because I've had to make so many unpopular decisions, but

840
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: it all worked out for me because I'm in peace

841
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 4: right and I ain't gotta play, you know what I'm saying.

842
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 4: It's like I don't got to play the game because

843
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: if you come over here, you know what I'm saying,

844
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: We're gonna be in the right. It's not even it

845
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 4: ain't even about being gangs. It's about being a man.

846
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: It's just like I don't want to be nothwhere around it.

847
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: I love y'all. You can come one on you know,

848
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: one on one, but don't bring all your partners. I

849
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: don't want to be bothered that, you know what I'm saying,

850
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 4: But I feel for them because you know, it's a

851
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 4: lot of web pendles in that penitentium.

852
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: Man, you know what I'm saying, there's a lot of.

853
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: I do want to say.

854
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 5: In regard to the music you used to make twenty

855
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 5: years ago, you can't beat yourself up about that because

856
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 5: you was doing the best.

857
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: You could with the information you had at the time.

858
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 5: And when I listened a third motivation one on one

859
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 5: that don't just a hustle is a hustle, I don't

860
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 5: mean that leaving me.

861
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: To no no, no.

862
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 4: And I don't want you to think that I'm tripping.

863
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: I'm saying because I always knew it was a position

864
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: of leadership. I always understood that now what I was

865
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 4: going through. When I was going through, I just wised

866
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 4: up over time and started listening to the people who's

867
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 4: really trying to help me right, because they really were,

868
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 4: and they were people that I wouldn't expect, you know

869
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. There were people that was reaching out

870
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 4: having these conversations, but I took key and I was

871
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 4: just like, Okay, tell me about that. And you gotta

872
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 4: stay curious, you know, you got to ask the questions.

873
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 4: And then when you start seeing what's happening around you,

874
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: it goes back to the streets. Like I knew what

875
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 4: not to do based off of how I saw these

876
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: people getting into trouble. So I'm like, I don't want

877
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: to do that. I ain't the jail type. I'm gonna

878
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: tell you right now. I can't see sitting nowhere and

879
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 4: not being PRODUCTI so I don't want to even put

880
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 4: myself in a position like that without me having to

881
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But I don't regret anything.

882
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 4: I don't regret my hard times. I don't regret my lows.

883
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 4: I don't regret my highs. I don't regret my run ins.

884
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 4: I don't regret anything because it all taught me a lesson.

885
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And I stand that now

886
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: and I can say that whole hardly. So when somebody

887
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: comes and talk to me, I can say, bro look,

888
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 4: I can't tell you what to do, but I'm gonna

889
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 4: gonna tell you, like, I don't know how that's gonna

890
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: work out, because this is what happened over here.

891
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: This is what I've seen happen with this person. Now,

892
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: you could take.

893
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 4: That data and that information, you could do whatever you

894
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: want with it, but I can assure you that if

895
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: you do that, there's gonna be some type of consequence.

896
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 5: So when you when you go on a journey like this,

897
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 5: you know, for your your twenty years of thug motivation

898
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 5: one on one, does it make you like does it

899
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 5: make you reach out to like older people you came

900
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 5: up with? Like have you spoken to Big Meat?

901
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: Yes? Solid? Solid? Okay, Yeah, everybody's solid.

902
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: Bro.

903
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm just peace. Man. My hom's love. You know what

904
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

905
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: For me, it's you know, I'm like I said, man,

906
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 4: it's all good me bro, you know what I'm saying?

907
00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: All good?

908
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 5: What's the deep album cut that you really enjoy performing

909
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 5: off Doug Motivation on one?

910
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 4: Man? I mean listen, bro, I can't get past intro,

911
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you gotta you gotta

912
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 4: wait till you hear this with the with the Symphony.

913
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying with the symphony, and I

914
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 4: need everybody know I'm coming through your city. I'm coming

915
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: through your town. It's gonna be amazing one night only,

916
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 4: and you gotta pull up. And going back to your

917
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: other question about me reaching back out, I think it's

918
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 4: more important for me to reach forward. So shout out

919
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 4: the LISK who I just partner with for my nonprofit space,

920
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: and shout out to the Urban League of Atlanta, who

921
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: I reached out with for my Young CEO program.

922
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: Because it's like, what is list I know you do

923
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: that with the Screen Dreams Foundation.

924
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, list is is. So we got to two things

925
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: going right now.

926
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: We definitely got the prostate cancer campaign going on because

927
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: I had a couple of friends that go through that,

928
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 4: so we were locked in there. But it's definitely fun entrepreneurs,

929
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 4: young entrepreneurs, you know tech spaces, just you have it

930
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: like we're showing them how to set up their lives

931
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: so that they can win.

932
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: And the same thing with the Urban League of Atlanta.

933
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 4: Same thing. We got the Young CEO program. You can

934
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: go on my Instagram check it out. You know, anybody

935
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 4: from the ages, what's the agent seventeen to twenty four,

936
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 4: and we set it up. We're putting them with mentors

937
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: all that. And by the way, like this is who

938
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 4: I am. Like I love this. And somebody asked me,

939
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 4: how do you do both? They're all the same, you

940
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. We still motivating. It's all the

941
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: same to me. You know, It's just we get to

942
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: jump on the stage, but then we get to go

943
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 4: help some people prostate against We get to jump on

944
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: the stage and we get to go help mentor some kids.

945
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: You know, I love it.

946
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 5: And you're saving people, you know, and people can live

947
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 5: a much longer life if they just go.

948
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: And I know I said this last time, but I

949
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: got to say it again because you saved me.

950
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: Brother.

951
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 4: Shout out to Charlemagne for my New York Time best

952
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 4: selling book Adversity for Sale, because I ran into a

953
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: situation where I had an issue with a publishing company

954
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 4: and I called Charlemagne, like who published your book? And

955
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: he put me with somebody and we went on to

956
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 4: sell a New York Times bestseller.

957
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so thank you, thank you, brother, Thank you.

958
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 2: For all the years of motivation with the music.

959
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 5: My last question, if you could go back and tell

960
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 5: two thousand and five GZ one thing before TM one

961
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 5: on one drop, what would it be?

962
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 1: Go harder?

963
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 4: Because I was a little reluctant because you know, I

964
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 4: was scared of failure, you know what I mean, because

965
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: I had so much on the line.

966
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: So it was like real pressure. You know, it ain't nothing.

967
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: Like everybody looking at you like a way out, you

968
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. That pressure is on your shoulder,

969
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 4: But then you're also looking at yourself like if because

970
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 4: it's different if a record labels inquiring you and you

971
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 4: hide in the streets and on your like they're they're

972
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 4: pushing this issue like this is your money, this is

973
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 4: your time, this is your energy. So if it doesn't work,

974
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 4: you know, nine times out of ten, you don't spend all.

975
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 4: You don't spend all your bread and now you got

976
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 4: to figure something else out and you don't turn your

977
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 4: back on everything you knew as far as like the

978
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 4: streets to take this chance. So I always said it

979
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: go harder because there was a lot of times where

980
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: I was like I was sitting back not being the

981
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 4: star that I could have been because I was having

982
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: what did it called it impostra sentially, you know, because

983
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 4: I was in these rooms with these guys that was

984
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 4: really writing and really like this is what they been

985
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 4: doing their whole life. And I kind of just stumbled

986
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: into this. And it wasn't until I just realized that, like,

987
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: but you but you're real though, you are who you

988
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 4: say you are, and you don't have to be as witty.

989
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: You can be realer. And that was my thing. So

990
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 4: when I was saying if it's taken too long to

991
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 4: lock up, I was talking to the people who knew

992
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 4: what I was talking about, So everybody wasn't gonna get there.

993
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 4: And that's the that's the that's what I had over

994
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 4: everybody else. I knew how to talk to the people

995
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 4: that mattered to me. And uh, it wasn't until I

996
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 4: really figured that out. It is when I was like, okay,

997
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 4: I could live in and like I said, it was

998
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 4: it was. I was three hours in before I woke

999
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: up and I was just like, I took that book

1000
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 4: bag with all those not bricks. I'man like waiting it

1001
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 4: because it was heavy, and I just took it off

1002
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 4: and through it and I was like, I'm going to

1003
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: be a star. I'm going to be a star man,

1004
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: you know. So thug motivation to me was a blur

1005
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 4: because it was like it could have happened, it might

1006
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 4: not happened, But everything I went through I'm grateful for

1007
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: even right now to this day, because there's nothing that

1008
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 4: I go up against that I don't go what would

1009
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 4: I done in two thousand and five?

1010
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? How would I worked around this?

1011
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 4: And I love it because when people put me into

1012
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: you know, like if I get in situations with business

1013
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 4: and then I called back and I called my team

1014
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: the next thing and be like, Yo, we're gonna do this,

1015
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 4: they'd be like, oh, man.

1016
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: I knew it. We got them. You know what I'm saying,

1017
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: because they tried to box me in. I figured it out.

1018
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, answer in a lot of ways just towards

1019
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 5: like you being able to relive that time but actually

1020
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 5: enjoy the moment.

1021
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 4: Enjoy the moment, man, And I want people to enjoy

1022
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 4: with me. And I'm gonna say this, like this is

1023
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 4: for us. You know, put your put your black suit on,

1024
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: if you don't got a bow tie, put your black

1025
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: dress on. Let's have a good time. Let's celebrate. Let's

1026
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: celebrate you know, evolution, Let's celebrate life. Let's celebrate our wins,

1027
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 4: our losses and everything like, let's have a good time

1028
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 4: because I don't want to keep coming and we're doing

1029
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: like you know, you could do a show, but I

1030
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: want an experience. You know what I'm saying. I want

1031
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 4: you to see what I'm trying to say. And again,

1032
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: this is a party. This is not uh, you know,

1033
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 4: you just come and sitting down. You know, this is

1034
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 4: not the opera. Shout out to the opera. But it's

1035
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 4: not the opera, gotch.

1036
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: We appreciate you for joining us. I appreciate you guys.

1037
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 2: Tickets.

1038
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 4: Oh you go to gez It's TM one on one

1039
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 4: live te dot com.

1040
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: Sir, we appreciate you for joining us. Let's definitely pulling.

1041
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I want to say this before I leave.

1042
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 4: New York is gonna be lit because I'm actually officially

1043
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 4: closing down the Apollo. I'm doing the last show there

1044
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 4: until they do the renovation, so they're gonna sit down

1045
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: for the rest of the year. So I will be

1046
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 4: having an official last show with them. It's gonna be crazy.

1047
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 4: Look on the website to find out when I'm coming

1048
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: through your city. Shout out to the Breakfast Club shout

1049
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 4: out to you out.

1050
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well there you have it. Yes, sir, it's jeezy.

1051
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up

1052
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: in the morning.

1053
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club