1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: The Carol Markowitz Show now airs Wednesdays and Fridays, so 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: you can get this non political podcast The Carol Markowitz 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Show on Wednesday and Friday, and then normally the political 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: podcast I co host with Mary Catherine Ham every Tuesday 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: and Thursday. You only don't Get Me on Mondays. I 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: watch out for cultural stories specifically, and the big one 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: this week is of a porn star named Lily Phillips. 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 1: Lily is a British woman who does OnlyFans, which, if 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: you don't know what that is, it's basically a pornographic site, 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: though not always where people pay to get to know 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: the subject of their porn a little more than they 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: would just watching. 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: Say a video. Lily recently had sex with one hundred 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: and one men in one sitting and participated in a 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: documentary titled with one hundred Men in One Day. In 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: that documentary, she breaks down crying after the event and 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: says that it made her feel robotic and she doesn't 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: even remember the faces of any of the men. A 20 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: lot of the online conversation focuses on who is in 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: the wrong, Is it Lily Is it the men, is 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: it her mom, who is reportedly her finance manager. I 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: like what Ben Shapiro said about it, although I'm actually 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: pretty sure I'm more liberal than him on stuff like 25 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: prostitution or porn. I don't think it should be illegal, 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: for example, but he said, our liberal society has lost 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: the language to explain why it's morally wrong for Lily 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: Phillips to have sex with one hundred and one men 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: in a day on camera. Consent, it turns out, is 30 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: not the only important value. The human soul is sacred, 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: and only fans profanes it. I agree it does, but 32 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 2: not just for the women. What's interesting to me isn't 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: why she did it, which is obviously for money, but 34 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: why some of the men did it. There's this depressing detail. 35 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: As described by The New York Post, Phillips shared that 36 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: it's not just the physical intimacy of having sex with 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: so many men that made her feel so bad, but 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: also disappointing them by not being able to talk with 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 2: them or even being interested in doing so. She said 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: the conversing with them was also hard, and recounted how 41 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 2: one man complained that they only chatted for about two 42 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: minutes when She said beforehand that they would talk for 43 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: about five minutes. I mean, imagine being Guy eighty five 44 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 2: and what you were really hoping for was five minutes 45 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: of conversation. One of the guys had brought her flowers. 46 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: So many people are just hungry for companionship only fans 47 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: exasperates that because people feel like they're having a relationship 48 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: even when they're very much not. I get why a 49 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: man lines up to have random sex, even be Guy 50 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: one hundred and one having it, but it says so 51 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: much more about our culture that so many men purchase 52 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: the sensation of a relationship without actually being in one. 53 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: On OnlyFans. I don't have a solution, or not an 54 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 2: easy one anyway, it's always the same answers. In the end, 55 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: Foster Community teacher children how to do that. Praise the 56 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: idea of meeting someone to love and cherish and marrying 57 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: that person and staying married. Don't let your kids commodify 58 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: relationships or see them as transactional. Make your kids understand 59 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: that just because they can do something doesn't mean they should. 60 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: As for Lily Phillips, she's already planning a one thousand 61 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: man event. No lessons have been learned, no experience gained. 62 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: Maybe we can't help her, but we can help those 63 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: around us not become her. Thanks for listening. Coming up 64 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: an interview with Lydia Lighterman. But first, this Christmas and 65 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: Hanuka season is a time of hope and peace for 66 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: many of us. 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Lydia is 84 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: a former producer of Timcast and has the popular sour 85 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: Patch Lid's account on x HI. Lydia. So nice to 86 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: have you on. 87 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: Hey, Carol, thank you so much for having me. 88 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: So when I asked you to come on, I'm like, 89 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: how do I introduce you? And you said, oh, you know, 90 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: a former producer of timcast and stay at home mom. 91 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: But I find you to be I mean, not that 92 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 3: that's not enough, but I feel like you're very active 93 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: in the political world. You're certainly doing a lot. But 94 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: how has motherhood been? It's been how long is it now? 95 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: So fourteen months today? It's been fantastic. It's been my 96 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: favorite thing on Earth. I know most people knew me 97 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: when I was a skinny, miserable, white collar worker on 98 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: timcast Irl, which was a super fun job. Don't get 99 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: me wrong, but I it's not a very happy person. 100 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 4: I am so much happier now, and I feel like 101 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 4: that's reflected in every part of me except my Twitter account. 102 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 4: Where I'm still just as fiery and peppery as I 103 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: ever was, because there's a lot of issues in the 104 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: world and I like to try to address them. 105 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you're definitely fiery, but you have a sense 106 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 3: of humor about it. Your I wouldn't say you're angry 107 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 3: or like ranty. You you have a very light kind 108 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: of way of mocking a lot of the things that 109 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: are going on around us. 110 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 4: I'm trying. I'm trying. I would say I'm angling for 111 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 4: a position at the Babylon Bee. But they are doing 112 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 4: way better than I ever could, so I just follow 113 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: them with admiration. 114 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: So what would you consider like your beat? Like what 115 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: things do you enjoy covering? 116 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: Ooh? So, I think culture is probably the most important 117 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 4: part of the world because I think people look at 118 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 4: the political and they think that's how we solve all 119 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: these problems, when the fact is that it comes down 120 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: to what we do in our everyday life. And I 121 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 4: was actually talking to Michael Malice about this because recently 122 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: I came out as an anarchist, and I said, I 123 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 4: think that this is probably the best way to tackle 124 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: all these problems is to assign the personal responsibility to 125 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: everyone and say, actually, you do have our responsibility to 126 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 4: try to fix this yourself. You have a responsibility to 127 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: build your family so it's strong. You need to support fam, 128 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 4: your community so that it's like impervious to this kind 129 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: of left wing narrative. I remember when I was in 130 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: the DMV area, which is a district of Columbia Mauryland, Virginia, 131 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 4: and I was noticing that in West Virginia they were 132 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: starting to get some real left wing school board members. 133 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, so yes, this absolutely canon does 134 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: happen even in the reddest possible state. Now we're in Tennessee, 135 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: which is fantastic, we love it very much, and you're 136 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: I think you're in Florida, right, yep, South Florida, yep. 137 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: I think in these states it becomes very easy to 138 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: be like, Okay, well everything's taken care of. We have 139 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 4: Marsha Blackburn, you have Rona Santa. Is not enough, not enough. 140 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 4: We need to on our own personal level try and 141 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 4: make the differences that we want to see in the world, 142 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: because that's the only way it gets better. 143 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: So a few things about that. First of all, my 144 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: heart stopped when you said I came out as and 145 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: I was like, what did she come out as? What? 146 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: Where is just going? 147 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: And then anarchist is not what I was expecting you 148 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: to know. 149 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: I don't think anyone expected that. They're like, oh, you're 150 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: so nice being nice, So I think it's the best. 151 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I love Malice, he's been on the show. 152 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: We're friends for a long time. I thought I only 153 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: had the one anarchist friend, but I guess I could 154 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: have two more. 155 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 2: With Lydia in a moment. But first, Americans are tired 156 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: and frustrated by a stalling economy, inflation, endless wars, and 157 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: the relentless assault on our values. 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But your free month 177 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: of service today. 178 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 3: I fully agree with you on Red States kind of 179 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: not relaxing because when I was on book tour and 180 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 3: my book was about the indoctrination of children and the 181 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: way it's like in every facet of society, not just schools. 182 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: People think of it as just schools, but no, it's 183 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: a nutrition's office, as a library, et cetera, et cetera. 184 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: I found that Red State audiences were sort of the 185 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 3: hardest to break through because they all think that they're 186 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: safe from this. They think it's craziness that goes on elsewhere, 187 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: and you know, we kept trying to bring the point 188 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: home that like the teachers in your schools learned the 189 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: Marxist textbooks at the teachers colleges exactly as the teachers 190 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: in San Francisco did. So, so I agree with you 191 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: on that. But what I want to know is what 192 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: is the difference in this category or in this situation 193 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: between anarchy and conservativism, Like if you're preserving something the 194 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 3: way conservatives do or say they do, what's the difference. 195 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: That's the goal, was the coming out. 196 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was looking at the way the government 197 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: at large is acting large being no accidental choice of word, 198 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 4: because they're way too big. My parents were very conservative, 199 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: like culturally conservative, but I said that they are closer 200 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 4: to anarchism than some because they were constantly talking about 201 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 4: how the government is good for nothing, literally nothing, and 202 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 4: literally the smaller government the better. And my parents would 203 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: talk at lengths about how important the family was and 204 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: how this is the smallest unit of almost the almost 205 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: a more important unit of individuality than the individual themselves, 206 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 4: because if you can get into the family and start 207 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 4: to drive wedges between parents and children, it's over like 208 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 4: that is it? That's the cultural impetus that conservatives today face, 209 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 4: and I think that anarchism addresses that by saying, actually 210 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 4: it is everyone. Everyone needs to step up and say 211 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: I will handle this. I will talk to my community. 212 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 4: I will go to my church, my synagogue, wherever I 213 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: go worship to join up with people of similar mind 214 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 4: and I will make sure that everyone is on the 215 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: same page. Like that's down to every single one of us. 216 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: And it's not just for cultural stuff. This will help 217 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 4: us preserve the stuff that conservatives are fighting for, like this, 218 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: this is a big deal. And I think once we 219 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: get into the mindset that it is our responsibility, I 220 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: think that'll help preserve a lot of the stuff that 221 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 4: conservatives want. I just wish they would take that mindset 222 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: to heart and actually follow through on it. But we'll see, 223 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: maybe they will. 224 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: Maybe What do you what do you worry about? 225 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: So right now I'm looking at the current events. I 226 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 4: was looking at the Brian Johnson tragedy in New York 227 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: City and thinking, I'm looking at everyone who's singing the 228 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: praises of the person who did this, And I'm really 229 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: happy that Trump won. I really feel like we are 230 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: kind of turning a corner. In our culture for the positive, 231 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 4: especially with a Daniel Penny verdict that just came down 232 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 4: like an hour ago. But we are up against people 233 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: who genuinely believe that it's okay to put people out 234 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 4: on the street in broad daylight. They think that's the 235 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 4: way to handle things. Forget about the justice system, forget 236 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: about innocent until proven guilty. They didn't solve a problem 237 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: by taking out a CEO. The problem is health is 238 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 4: so much bigger than that, right. I'm sure you're aware 239 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: of the deep issues that we have with the healthcare 240 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 4: system in this country, because we do. I think that 241 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: everyone can agree on that, both sides of the aisle. 242 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: But what the left doesn't seem to understand is that 243 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 4: the ACA is largely to blame for the fact that 244 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 4: everyone is paying so much more here. Not that they'd 245 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 4: ever admit it, but I wish that they would step 246 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: back and think, hey, maybe the answer isn't just to 247 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: dispatch of our enemies on the sidewalk, you know, like 248 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 4: that's a serious danger, I think, But hopefully that starts 249 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 4: to die down a little bit. But it's been, like 250 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 4: you said, in the schools, coming from the teachers, people 251 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: who don't have children have access to your children. So 252 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: they're telling everyone of these things and everyone believes them. 253 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: So we'll see. 254 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: Like you said, we're recording this shortly after the Brian 255 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: Thompson killing in New York City earlier today, they arrested 256 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: a person of interest in that case, and he's a 257 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: twenty six year old from Maryland. And I wonder, you know, 258 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: if it does come because we have no idea, right 259 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: for all, we know, this twenty six year old from 260 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: Maryland could have been having an affair with his this 261 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: guy's wife, like we just don't know like where the 262 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: piece is fit quite yet. But if it does come 263 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: out to be that this guy just wanted to harm 264 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: an insurance company ceo, like, I wonder if the Left 265 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 3: will have any accountability on the rhetoric around this and 266 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: on what would have provoked this kind of killing in 267 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: the first place. You know, I get you. I think 268 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: that that's something to worry about. And I think that 269 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: the way that the left has reacted the Taylor Lorenzs 270 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: of the world has been really gross and shocking and 271 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: yet somehow predictable. 272 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 4: It is unfortunately both predictable and shocking at the same time. 273 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: What troubles me about this particular young man is that 274 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: his timeline is full of retweets, sorry, reposts from Andrew Huberman, 275 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: and he follows people that I like and respect, like 276 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 4: really like and really respect people I've met in person 277 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: who are good, solid conservatives. So I'm really curious how 278 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: they're going to spin this one. But at the same time, 279 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: they've kind of taken him under their wing. They kind 280 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: of love him, and I'm not sure what they're going 281 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 4: to do with the knowledge that he follows accounts like 282 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 4: that are named things like end Wokeness, like people have 283 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 4: the right wing conservative news beat, right, So this is 284 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: going to be interesting. I will say, someone wished that 285 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: we would live in interesting times as a punishing for 286 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: something horrible we did. I don't know what we did, 287 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 4: but these are the most interesting times. They trail a. 288 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: Little too interesting, like I can definitely have some boring days. 289 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: And of course, as you mentioned the day that we're 290 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: recording this, the Daniel Penny verdict came down today, and 291 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: that was also sort of, I mean, a huge relief. 292 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: I was very worried about it. I'm from New York. 293 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: I didn't know what twelve jurors in that city might do, 294 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: and the fact that they were a hung jury on 295 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: the bigger charge was definitely concerning to me. But you know, 296 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: I do feel not just a sense of relief over that, 297 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: but a sense of relief for what's going on in 298 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: the country. I think, maybe we're moving in a better direction. 299 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: What does anarchism say about this? Are we moving in 300 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: a better direction? 301 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 4: So the Daniel Penny case was so interesting because what 302 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: people didn't seem to recognize on either side of the 303 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 4: aisle was at Daniel Penny taking responsibility for what was 304 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 4: happening in that subway car was the purest possible form 305 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: of anarchism. He saw a problem and instead of freaking 306 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 4: out and crying to authorities and waiting for thirty minutes 307 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 4: for the cops to come, while this unhinged person who's 308 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: clearly high on multiple different substances, very much, very similar 309 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 4: to George Floyd in that regard, But I digress, because 310 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: that's a whole different kettle of fish. But he took responsibility, 311 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 4: and he saw an opportunity to act like a man 312 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 4: in a position where almost nobody else is brave enough 313 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 4: to do that anymore. So I'm like extremely culturally grateful 314 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 4: that they gave him this not guilty verdict, right, and 315 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: I'm optimistic that that will make New York City a 316 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 4: better place. Although I'm not going to hold my bright 317 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 4: breath because i can't believe that there was any kind 318 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 4: of any kind of debate on the jury about this 319 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: because those people ride the subway right, they know I'm 320 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 4: sure they faced people like Jordan Neely and they still 321 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 4: were not sure. But I was hearing too, as in 322 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: the side that they were able to hear the protesters 323 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: from where they were deliberating, which is unbelievable. That should 324 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: never happen like this should not happen in New York City. 325 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 4: Bully cows right, I'm really glad that Daniel Penny is 326 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 4: free because he was acting like he was a true 327 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 4: embodiment of everything a good anarchist would do. So that's 328 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 4: kind of my take on that one. 329 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: How did you get into this like political space, How 330 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: did you become a producer for Tim Kass? What was 331 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: the background there? 332 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: So I have always loved following the news. I've never 333 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 4: been into sports, so following this kind of competitive nature 334 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 4: of like the back and forth between the right and 335 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: the left has always been real interesting to me. I've 336 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 4: always been, always been very, very conservative, and I knew 337 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: from the time it was like eleven that I was 338 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 4: never going to be able to do well in journalism 339 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: because no one would appreciate my views like I would 340 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: get a fair shake like. So from a very very 341 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 4: early age, I knew that whether I liked writing or not, 342 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 4: no one was going to take me seriously because I 343 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 4: wasn't a flaming liberal. So I was like, all right, 344 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: I got to figure out a different way to do it. 345 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 4: So I worked in healthcare for a while and just 346 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,239 Speaker 4: kind of forgot about that dream. But then I had 347 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: an opportunity to work with you know, Tim cast I 348 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 4: was like, this is like the chance of lifetime. I 349 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: have to do it. And it was such a really fun, 350 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 4: great experience, so cool to meet people like you like, 351 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: to meet all of the really like contradictory people in 352 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 4: the right wing space. It was so much fun and 353 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 4: really fantastic, and that's been one of the highlights of 354 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: my life besides motherhood. 355 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: So my overarching memory of being on the show was 356 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: freezing to death in that studio, like my fingers didn't 357 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: move after It was like a really long show, and 358 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: it's so cold in Tim's studio. It's just I mean 359 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: in Branklin, we'd. 360 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: Say it was rick in there. 361 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but my fingers literally I had to like, you know, 362 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: kind of move them around after to. 363 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 4: Get there again. I used to say that studio that 364 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: it was not friendly to women because the guys really 365 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: liked how cold it was. And I was just constantly 366 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 4: so mad about how cold it would get, and I 367 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 4: was like, this is really frustrating. I don't want to 368 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 4: be working in this. So I would like wear a 369 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 4: jacket off into or I would do some of my 370 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: post stuff from like a different room or whatever. But yeah, 371 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: I was frustrating. 372 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: I know who was your favorite guest of the whole 373 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: time that you were there? 374 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 4: Oh, you know, I have considered this. So I really 375 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 4: enjoyed Dennis Prager and he wrote love Dennis, Yes, And 376 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 4: I really hope he's doing better. I know that his 377 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: back was injured and he ended up getting secondary complications. 378 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: Hopefully he's mending. I love Dennis Prager. He was fantastic 379 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: and I loved uh the guy from Ed's manifesto. I 380 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 4: never remember his last name, his first name Day So 381 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: he was recovered alcoholic and he had so much really 382 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 4: cool firsthand experience as a cop in Mexico. He really 383 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 4: wasn't very political, but I really appreciated him. He was 384 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: so empathetic and compassionate. And there was the father of 385 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 4: a wrestler from Cuba and he came and talked about 386 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 4: like anti communism and he fought in that kind of space, 387 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 4: So that was cool as well. So meeting the people 388 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 4: who've really done interesting stuff in other places I think 389 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: was kind of the peak. Guest really cool more. 390 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: With Lydia in just a moment. But first, protecting our 391 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: families and homes is essential, but are we truly prepared? 392 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: Break Ins happened every twenty five seconds. Even with a 393 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: security system, can it really keep intruders out? Layer your 394 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: defenses to buy yourself time. 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That's Sabre radio dot 408 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: com or call eight four four eight two four safe 409 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: Today to protect what matters most. 410 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: What advice would you give a sixteen year old Lydia? 411 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 3: You know, so you got to where you are, you 412 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: had this like, you know, really cool experience on Tim Kass. 413 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: Now you're a mom and you say it's the best 414 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: thing that ever happened to you, and you've come out 415 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 3: as an anarchist, So like a lot going on. Really, 416 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 3: what advice would. 417 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: You give a sixteen year old You say that probably 418 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: the biggest lesson I've gathered from the last ten fifteen 419 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: years husband to just trust God because there were times 420 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: when I just had no idea how things were going 421 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 4: to work out. And I you know, I love my 422 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 4: husband I love my child. It's the best possible like life, 423 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: and I would never have known how to take the 424 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 4: steps to get here on my own, but God made 425 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 4: it happen. So it's really important to relax, not worry 426 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 4: about everything all the time, and trust that God has 427 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: a plan for you. 428 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: What advice would you give to people who are looking 429 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 3: for God, Like if if it doesn't come naturally to you, 430 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: if you're not raised with it, where do you go 431 00:23:59,680 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: to see? 432 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: Came out. 433 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 4: So one of the things that happened to me, I 434 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 4: considered myself an agnostic for like my teens, you know, 435 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 4: teens are edgy whatever. I was raised in the church. 436 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: Yeah you know, I'm sure you do know. But I 437 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 4: was raising the church, so I had that background. But 438 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I'm not really sure. I 439 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: don't want to be. I'm not arrogant enough to say 440 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 4: I know whether God's really there. But I started doing 441 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 4: anatomy and physiology and biology and that kind of stuff. 442 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 4: As I was getting into the healthcare stuff, I was 443 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 4: doing like pre rex for surgical tech, and the more 444 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 4: I looked at the human body, the more I was like, 445 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 4: there's no way that this is coming about, you know, 446 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 4: by any kind of chance. There's just no way. And 447 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: I wrote, and I'm sure other people have said this recently, 448 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 4: that if you are looking for God and you're not 449 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 4: seeing him, that you should look through a telescope or 450 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: you should look through a microscope, because those are the 451 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 4: clearest indicators to me that humans are incredibly loved and 452 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 4: incredibly small and part of a big your picture. Like, 453 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 4: it's so funny to me. The atheists think it's a 454 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 4: gotcha that we live on this tiny, little blue rock 455 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 4: in the middle of bazillions of miles of nothingness and 456 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: we still believe that God thinks highly of us, Like 457 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 4: how arrogant are we? And we're like, no, that's the 458 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: coolest thing about believing in God and believing in you know, 459 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: his love for us is that we are kind of nothing, 460 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 4: but God views us highly and created us and has 461 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 4: plans for us. That's so neat. 462 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: I love that microscope telescope blind. I've never heard that before. 463 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: It's maybe it is original, good, Yeah. 464 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: Maybe you came up with that. So it's funny because 465 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: you know, they you know, the argument always is that 466 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: God is like at odds with science, but in so 467 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: many ways they fit very very well together. And I 468 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: heard I think it was Ricky Gervais one time on 469 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: a late night show and he said, you know, if 470 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 3: you burn all the science books, like there will still 471 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 3: be science, but like if you burn the Bibles, like 472 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: they won't be God anymore, or something along those lines. 473 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: And I was like, well, if you burn the history books, 474 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: they'll still be history. Like, just because you won't know 475 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 3: about it doesn't mean that it didn't exist. It's it's 476 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: sort of a similar thing to that if you look 477 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: at the Bible in a historical way. Even just because 478 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 3: you're burning the Bible doesn't mean. 479 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 4: That what happened and it didn't happen. 480 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 3: It's like, so I always think that that is like 481 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 3: a weak argument the scientists who want to tear us 482 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: away from God. 483 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's it's a little bit like C. S. 484 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 4: Lewis talks about how you can put a maniac on 485 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: his in a cell and he will know. I forget 486 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 4: how he said it. I'm going to butcher it. But 487 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 4: a lunatic can no more put out the sun by 488 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 4: scribbling darkness on the walls of his cell then a 489 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 4: man can. 490 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: You know? 491 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 4: A man can nullify God's existence by saying that he 492 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 4: doesn't exist, like it doesn't matter what you say, it 493 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 4: doesn't matter what you do, and that should make you 494 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 4: feel both more at peace and I feel a little 495 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 4: bit insignificant because you can say whatever you want. God's 496 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 4: going still going to exist, and whether you want to 497 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: admit it or not, it doesn't really matter. So yeah, 498 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 4: I think Ricky Gervais might have been making a point, 499 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: but not the one he thought he was. 500 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: For sure, Yeah, exactly. So I've loved this conversation. This 501 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: has gone places I didn't expect. Leave us here with 502 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 3: your best tip for my listeners on how they can 503 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: live a better life. 504 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 4: So I used to be really, really shy, and I 505 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: was thinking about this question before the show because this 506 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 4: is actually pretty significant. I used to be really shy, 507 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: and I feel like that my life really began when 508 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 4: I figured out that other people are thinking about themselves 509 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 4: as much as I'm thinking about myself. So all the 510 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 4: time I spend worrying about what other people thinking about me, 511 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 4: they're spending worrying about what I think about them or 512 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 4: what other people think about them. So just do your thing, 513 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 4: like and this has been really freeing when it comes 514 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 4: to parenting, too, because I literally postponed having children because 515 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 4: I looked at the way mothers treated other mothers and 516 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 4: I was like, no, not interested in that. But it 517 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 4: doesn't matter what they say. It really doesn't. You're going 518 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 4: to do what's right for your family and you're going 519 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 4: to ignore them because you have your kid's best interest 520 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 4: at heart and you're going to You're just going to 521 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: do your best. There's nothing else you can do. You 522 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 4: need to ignore what other people say you really do. 523 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: And I know it's super hard because a lot of 524 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 4: us are shy or retiring, or we really do kind 525 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: of care what people think of us. But the most 526 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 4: important thing you can do for yourself is stop worrying 527 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: so much about what other people think. So that's my 528 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 4: two cents. That really helped me with my shyness. 529 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: That's really good. I was also very shy as a kid, 530 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: and I just had to force myself to get over it. 531 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: And yeah, it's hard, super outgoing. I don't know how 532 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: that happened. Thank you so much for coming on. She's 533 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: Lydia Lighterman. You can find her on exit sour Patch Lids. 534 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: It's Lyds and thank you again, Lydia. 535 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: This is great Thank you, Carol, Thanks so much for 536 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: joining us on The Carol Markowitz Show. 537 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.