WEBVTT - Episode 140 w/ DJ Marley Marl 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.120 And his Drink Chaps motherfucking podcast makes He's a legendary 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.640 queen's rapper. He's agreed, that's your boy in O R. 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.960 He's a Miami hip hop and mioneer up his dj 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.640 e FN. Together they drinking up with some of the 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:29.960 biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and yet 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:34.280 number one sorts for drunk back drin chs motherfuckings New year' z, 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:47.880 that's time for drink Champs trick up motherfuck three. Would 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:49.560 a good be hopefully is with this two biship boy 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:51.960 in O R. What up is d j e FN 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:58.360 This motherfucker drink Chaps Harry, I'll make some right right now. 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.720 When you think of hip hop, you think of hip 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.360 hop royalty. You think of a guy who had a 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.440 record label back then, who had so many artists who broke, 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.600 so many artists, who who stood the test of times. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.520 I heard through the grape vine that he might have 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.160 been the first one to sample who don't get We're 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.119 gonna get to that. I heard through the grape find 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.080 that he was the guy who discovered rock Kim. I 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.600 heard through the grape vine that this guy, this guy 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.520 has been countless. When you think of like the first 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.720 CEOs in the first you know what I'm saying, he 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:28.720 has to be up there with it. Like where you 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.759 see a black person together a company, the first time 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.959 we ever heard of a black person on a company, 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.520 a recollabor at this time at least. Um, if you 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:37.840 don't know who the hell we talked about, we talking 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:44.320 about motherfucker legendary Molly. So let me let me let 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:45.560 me just take it from the beginning. You don't want 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.880 rod um, Let's take it from the beginning of how 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:49.640 did you? How did you? How did you even like, 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.000 you know, come of course music fell in love? Basically 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:54.680 I was, you know, a DJ out there playing in 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.720 Queen's Bridge in the park. You know, we used to 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:00.360 do jams in the park and you know I was 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.720 dude in Queensbridge, coming out every weekend. So at that point, 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.000 one day I had the musician Cats coming. You know, 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.440 it was down one side. It was like around the 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.480 time when hip hop was just bubbling. So what really happened. 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.080 It was like I had the band plug into my system, 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.519 my boy Andre, and then the next day that the 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:21.919 musician started coming to my house. So I was ready 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.200 to DJ. Now I got the musician cats from the neighborhood, 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:30.200 liked everybody's that started coming into my house because I 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.080 had a big system, and and that's how I kind 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.600 of caught the bug to become more than just the DJ. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:38.520 Because I was already at DJ. I went to be 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.720 that special DJ that had special powers. And when I 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:46.400 say special powers, is it means like special mixes, that 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.080 nobody got something special. And that's you know, that's when 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.560 I first caught the bug. So let me cause I 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.880 mean because um on Shan's record, he says, hip hop 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.720 started out in the park. He said, hip hop it 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:00.520 was set out in the dog it out on the door. 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.480 Before you said that, I said, I'm gonna tell you 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.359 a story about where we come from. So let's make 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.919 that clear. So this is like, this was our neighborhood 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.960 story that that it was a tape floating around the neighborhood. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.040 And that's how the bridge got started from you know, 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.560 it was like a neighborhood tape. And you know, you know, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:19.000 nobody was trying to say, yo, hip hop started, and 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.519 that from that record all we started hip hop. We said, 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:23.600 we're gonna tell you something about where we come from. 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:25.560 But who who are you guys looking up to at 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.680 that point in hip hop. Um, well, the only person 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.560 people was looking up to was probably cast from the 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.680 hood that we was able to see because you know, 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.320 nobody outside of the hood, not really, because you know, 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.920 I was really young, and so I was. I was 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.760 too young to go to see Bambardo when he came 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.720 to Queen's Bridge. So there was you know, that was 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.520 the other generation before me. But if you understand what 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.320 I'm talking about, so um I was, you know, I 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:52.880 was looking up to the cats in the neighbor, like 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:56.560 Dr Bob Lee, you know, like um, Jappie Jack, who's 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:00.160 on the record, you know what I mean. Gas My 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.760 brother Larry Lad was the DJ and the man, the 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.480 mastermind that put it all together, the electronical wizard. His 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:09.400 name was t Tom. Wasn't that the first record that 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:13.400 came from Queensbridge or not? Not? Not other records? Yeah, 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.240 you know what's funny about how hip hop sits with Queensbridge. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.400 Before hip hop, there was like a whole disco era 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.760 out and there was a cast from Queensbridge, like the 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:27.000 Andre Booths, the Daryl Paynes, the Michael Bailey's. They had 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.400 records on the radio already Now, those was the Cats 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.559 that I was looking at. Maybe that's why I became 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.440 a producer, because I'm looking at these cats walking around 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.200 in the hood and they got records on the radio. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.919 You know what I'm saying. Daryl Payne roll most of 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.040 all of every disco era song out thanks to you 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:47.599 and and stuff like that. Um, you know Andre Booth, 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.800 he had this beat his mind back in the day. 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.560 So you know, I'm walking around as a little kid 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.880 in Queensbridge. These cats got records on the radio already, 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.320 so I had I had like a a bo to 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.080 catch up to, if you know what I mean. Because 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:07.160 all the band Cats was already famous, it had records out. 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.200 So I was like, okay, all right, that's real good. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.280 So what what what was your first record? You even 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:15.960 saying was successful? My first successful record, I would probably say, 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.760 Mom said, that's a huge record. That is a huge 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.680 That's what I'm trying to say, because with me, I've 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.960 been on both sides, and I've been in the beginning 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.200 of hip hop. We made, you know, we made a 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.400 lot of attempts to do things that that that's neighborhood favorites, 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:34.880 but it ain't generating publishing. What I'm saying so um, 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:36.839 I would say that was, you know, like a big 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.560 record for me, that Around Away Girl, that transcend. I 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.719 believe when I got to that point, Around the Girl, 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.720 I'm sorry, kid came out of me. I'm sorry. Queens right, 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:55.160 there's Queen Okay. But I say all that to say that, 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.120 you know, for me to even to rise up to 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.200 be able to make that record, it was all into 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.560 making I look at my whole earlier career was getting 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.560 me ready for something kind of big. I was just 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.480 you know, it was kind of sparring. I'm doing records, 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:12.000 we're making history, we're changing how people produce. But well, 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.159 you know, I just look at it for me, sparring 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.240 to get to something that you know, I needed to 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.560 get to to make an album like that with l 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.520 L you know, every track, if you know what I mean, 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:25.400 To make an album like that and to make it 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.360 successful and to be what it is and the sit 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.760 in people's minds and psychees like that, I had to 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.160 get ready for that. So every record I made up 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.760 to that point led up to that. Now in the 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:41.600 Chant movie, right you was actually producing in Queensbreak, So 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.960 that's what it was producing in Queen's where she walked by, 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:49.240 and you was was it was? It was, it was close, 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.120 it was, it was very close. Um, I didn't my 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.159 window and faced that way. But it was kind of 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.400 like that because I already knew she was like a 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.000 freestyle king and Queens was like her Shan Cat in 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.320 infinite And you know if a bunch of them used 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.600 to be just on the block freestyle and going that 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:07.480 blah blah blah blah, and then he used to always 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.880 have a crowd. Sometimes we walked through like, damn, this 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.160 little chick is killing these cats out here, you know 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.000 what I'm saying. So you know, one day I told, 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.720 you know, I had that that rock sand beat, and 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.560 you know, she had an idea to do something and 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:21.280 I've seen it that day. I was like, yo, blah 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.080 blah blah. She's like, yeh, I'm gonna put my clothes 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.000 in it, in the in the spend cycle else and 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.800 all that was real talk. She ran down the laundry 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.720 through it and the thing ran upstairs, did one take 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:36.200 and broke out, keep the work out of here. One take. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.600 That was one take, and she did it. And now 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.000 that she she wasn't even taking it seriously didn't even know. 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.440 We didn't know. We didn't know because because she hadn't 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.040 done records yet to that point, I really really didn't 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.560 because most of my early joints was not supposed to 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.000 be records. Like I said, I want to be that 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.239 magical DJ with something special. So you know, my first 0:07:56.120 --> 0:08:01.400 recording that I was working with before was um Sucker DJs. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.480 I only did that because Sucker m season. I wanted 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:09.679 a special version that only I had play something special 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.920 with the chick talking about the Sucker DJs you know what, 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.240 and pumping me up. So I was like a dub plate. 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.280 You know, most of my earliest songs wasn't ever supposed 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.680 to be songs. They was supposed to be something special 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.760 for me, but the public grabbed onto it. Now, is 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:30.240 it true you just like discovered rock Kim. Um, I 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.080 wouldn't say I discovered rock Kim. Rock Kim came to 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.280 the crib with Eric B. Queensbridge. I was living on 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.640 twelve Street, you know, in that same apartment where we 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:43.160 did the Shante record. And I'm from Vernon side of Vernon, 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.280 but my sister had an apartment you know how Queensbridge is, 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.480 and she gave me the apartment. It was like the 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.640 rent was like a hundred a hundred n out a 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.800 hundred ten dollars a month, you know what I mean. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:55.160 So I just like used to pay that for the 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.920 year and just you know, running for crib and you know, 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:04.520 have free electric City and yeah, and just you know, 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.920 just go in and just make joints. That was her 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:11.360 apartment and rock Kim came. Rock Kim came. No one 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:12.840 he knew who rock Him was. Now and now I 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.959 check this out now. At first, I believe Freddie Fox 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:19.120 was supposed to show up, bumpy knuckles, bumpy knuckles, and 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.839 he didn't show up. So we're looking at like, yo, Eric, 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:23.400 where's your man. He's like, no, I don't worry. I 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.240 got somebody coming to the mall. Blah blah blah and bang. 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.959 Then Rock Kim came. Now you got to think about it. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.480 Now Rock Kim comes, and you know, Rock Kim wanted 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.719 to go slower. He went to Rome slow because you 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.360 got to think about it. Before he got to my house, 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.880 I was already like dabbling a little with Kane, dabbling 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.040 a little with g Rat So we were they wasn't 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.240 making what music and it wasn't signed to you at 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:52.720 that time. Kane and came after they got with the label. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.480 But Kane was always business writer, so he was always 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.880 lurking around. He was always hanging around, you know what 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:00.720 I mean, you know what the easy he could make 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.360 sure if you get back to this point, you know, 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.280 the crazy thing is Bismarck is probably the only person 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.320 who was probably a front that he had a ghostwriter 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.040 him an easy eat and no one cared, right right, 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:14.320 So from the beginning, Kane was writing bis rhymes. That's 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.640 that's I mean, I think bis row was earlier stuff, 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.080 but the stuff that really makes sense. But you can 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.640 obviously tell even picking bookers, I didn't even think Kane 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.720 had like a personality like that, Like I don't think 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:28.400 he can't talking about it, talking about that. Yeah, you know, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.079 Caine was came was, Kane was dope. You know. You 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:32.760 know we're gonna get into Cane in a minute, because 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.800 you asked me about Kane. He's definitely the one that 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:40.440 changed rap and and getting something crazy and it made 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.439 me better. They stay on rock him here, right because 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.360 so rock Him comes now. Isn't true that um every 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.200 be for president was actually the tragedies record. That was 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.839 actually a record called Stunt of the Block, but it 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.440 didn't have that baseline was the same drums. So what 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.280 I did, when you know, he had the idea to 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.680 use that I had, I was like, oh, made me 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:01.880 strip the track of Stunt of the Block and just 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.880 keep the drums and let's add and I played that 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:10.040 over and that became erb As President. Okay, so that's 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:17.400 all that comes to the crib. Yeah, Franky Fox was 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:20.360 supposed to be there, but yeah, we called something that day. Yeah, 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:25.680 we made My Melody first in Queen's My Melody way 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:30.320 in the living room in Queensbridge. Old Eric as President 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:34.640 was made in a living room in Queensbridge. Made her 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.880 you got a credit on the you gotta buy that 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.520 apartment and just make a studio of my dude. That's 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.880 great ship. I would have never thought. I would have 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.000 thought that was the one only record, like you and 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.640 Chante like. So there was other people coming to that 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.679 house and it was the house on twelve Street, just 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.239 the house on Street forty first for the first set. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.480 That's fucking markets I'm trying to say now I'm having 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:02.679 lived in the next building. Compson was made across was 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.120 across cross. Hold on, hold up now, I'm sucked up. Now. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.240 I feel like I don't even know my own childhood 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.439 right now, I'm so oh my god, it's Colone building 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.959 right here. Did you say in the building right before 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.559 having building? Right having room his head? I was the 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:22.600 building around that corner building straight across. Wow, and um 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:27.319 Jesus happening them was it was like kids were happening 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.040 his Actually his uncle used to be blasting the music 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.160 out there when it doesn't even having yet, you know 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.000 what I mean. And I used to battle. I'm playing 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.240 beats out there window. He's playing music, so I would 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.400 play last some time he would play. You know, so 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.600 what made you? What made you say? You know, let 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.280 me get out of the bridge, like because such as 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.199 these great things has happening still the projects. I got 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.800 a little too famous because people started like showing the 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:57.400 showing up, hanging out and you know, and and girls 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.280 was coming out there getting this treat and trying to 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:00.880 meet me. Was like, let me get out of here. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.559 Somebody you want hell yeah, But you know, I had 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.600 I had to. I had to get up because you know, 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.880 started getting a little a little a little crazy with 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.040 me living out there. People used to be waiting in 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:13.439 front of the building for me to come home. It 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:19.120 was the very moment where you was like, this is it, Um, 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.280 that's a little man. I must sucking molly mall nigger. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.000 What was that one moment when he was like when 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.880 he was like the moment came some some girl came 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.200 to Queensbridge. She must have really wasn't you know? She 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.559 wanted to meet me. She was like intrigued by me, 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.120 and you got the flat top of the time. I 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.760 just started making not you know, I never bought rings 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:46.160 and changing. Okay, okay, okay, I like cool had cars 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:51.920 and houses, Okay, okay, but um, a girl got really 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:56.800 like they really they disrespected this chick because she's trying 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.080 to meet me. She just came out there to meet me, Like, oh, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.600 we could take you to but first you gotta do this. 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.319 Oh you gotta do this, you gotta do this. And 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:05.360 I started adding the story. I was like, yeo, I 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.839 gotta get out of it, because you know that could happen. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.520 I could get blame. You know what I'm saying. She 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.120 came out there to meet me, and you know they 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.520 just did whatever, you know, let stiff her back then, stady. 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.920 So they just did whatever. And I heard I heard 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:20.840 about the story, and I was like, you know, I wanna, 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.600 I gotta, I gotta move right now because somebody could 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.040 get hurt right yearely was you know? It was? It 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.440 was crazy at that point. Did you what up? 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The reality of it, everyone 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.920 around the world things like that when you actually thought 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.000 like that, and you guys made the bridge? Did you? Did? 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.600 You actually was really knowing that Queen's Bridge is one 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.280 of those most special places are I kind of felt 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:58.920 that there's something special because Queensbridge is set right across 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.280 from Manhattan. Damn, you can see you can see success 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.160 over there. You see the money, you can see the money. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:09.159 You know, inspiration. My windows faced Manhattan when I was 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.439 a kid. They didn't face the hood. A lot of 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.320 my friends who's who's windows faced inside the hood didn't. 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.600 They didn't think about going over there. I saw the 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:20.160 lights of man Hat and I want to be over there. 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.840 What's what's what's going on over there? I want to 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.280 be over there. So my whole thing as a kid 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.760 was looking out the window because I lived on Burning 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:32.120 looking straight over the park High. Yeah. So I'm seeing 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.840 straight across past Roosevelt. I'm seeing the skyline and the 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:36.680 bridge going on the side. I want to be over 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.199 there with the lights. And it had inspired me to 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.919 run to them lights. That's that's that's crazy. That makes 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.200 so so I want to I want to dip back 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:53.400 into the box and movie a little bit. So, um, 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.040 when did you see did you have approval for anything 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.560 for her movie. She did. Her story was her story. 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.440 She know, she did her thing that was that was 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.080 strictly her story. I you know, I'm glad she was 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.280 able to tell her story because I didn't know it 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.879 was that deep like that. But I didn't know. But 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.119 I was dead like the other personal stuff, didn't know 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.320 the person stuff. I didn't know it was that deep. 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:18.160 So I'm glad she got to tell her story because 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.800 you know, you know, you survive abuse like that, That's 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.040 that's why you had that strong person. I didn't then 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.440 keep your face going, you know, with everybody else and 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.480 everything was going on and people looking up to you 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:30.800 in a way. So you know, I got a commented 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:32.879 for that, and she got to tell her story. That 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.440 opens the door for me to tell mine. People in 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:39.040 my mind yet, yeah, because this is one time I 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:40.800 think she's on toll she kind of trying to make 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:46.840 you look bad. Do you think, um, um, what was 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:50.920 that think? I think she uh, she was on tour 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.560 and they said that in the promoters and and the 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:58.919 man just stolen money. Yeah, and she's in the movie. Um, 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:03.080 so I'm she didn't make me look bad because I 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.840 steal the money. Right, I just stole the money, you know, 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.560 look like that back then, though, I mean it was 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:12.520 you we gotta think. We was like in the early 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.800 part of hip hop, so nobody knew what the hell 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.680 we are doing. Everybody's like, we're flying from the seat 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.359 of our pants. The next thing you know, she she 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.080 came to my house and recorded that freestyle. One tag 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:28.639 joined like to three weeks later, we're on private planes 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.160 going to do shows. Crazy, don't you know what I'm saying? 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.199 Three shows in three different states, so we need like 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:37.800 a private situation to move around that day. And it's 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:41.760 like like three weeks later, the three quartering the right, right, right, 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:44.000 So we didn't we don't know what the hell we 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:48.000 are just it got real popular, real quick because that 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:49.960 was like the like, I don't want to say the 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:51.399 beginning of the hip hop, but that was like the 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:56.959 stages of hip hop actually finding success, like and actually 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.199 starting to be on the raider because from there that 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.960 lets you on the radio. When Mr Master actually I 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.120 played her freestyle the rock Stand and Freestyle or Mr 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.359 Magic's w HBI show back in the day at one time, 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.960 and it was it was like a week before Christmas, 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.119 so it was just crazy that that the record company 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:19.000 that grabbed the record, they had records out by Christmas. 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.720 They had records out in seven days, all over the country. 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.080 It was, it was, it was, it was. It was 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.080 like everything just messed up, right, if you know what 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.880 I mean, everything messed up. They ran with the cassette 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.280 we played from I didn't even mixed the record down 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:34.879 the master. I played check this out. I played it 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:38.000 on our show, and we recorded our show playing the 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.560 record and gave him that tape and they made the 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:42.920 records off that. So recording of the recording is the 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:48.640 wax recording from the radio wax. Yeah, that's why it goes, 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.720 Oh my goodness, because Magic was talking over it on 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.600 the radio, and the record came out like that, and 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.040 they got it out in seven days, and you know, 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:00.680 you know it probably did it probably there really well 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.520 because it was all over the place. Rat was new, 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.399 Rock Sand, Rock Sand was dope at the time. And 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.840 then here comes to female. You see how many other 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.560 records came out after that, trying to be rock Sand's whatever, whatever. 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:13.879 But it was already too late, if you know what 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.919 I mean. That's when I realized that that I had something, 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.840 Because if anybody was following like that. I was like, oh, 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:27.160 I gotta make more joints. They following, so I gotta 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.720 I gotta move on this. And that's when I really discovered. 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.879 With the success of that, I was like, wow, you know, 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.600 I started doing shows. You know when you know, we 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:38.240 came out, We came out Head and we came out 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.440 to Miami. You know, we all over the place with Seante. 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:43.200 You know, we used to have the little eight to 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:46.360 a drum machine and this is you know, this is before. 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:50.440 This is before Luke Scott Walker was doing um like 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:53.320 two Live Crew. This one he was like he had 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:58.680 the djst style DJs back in the marriage to that 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:02.119 was there was book Lie but the timeline don't know 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:04.720 if you you know what. So I came out with 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.080 an eight away and we had we put it on 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.200 some base because he used to have the girl style DJs. 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.080 He used to have a crazy system sounds. It was 0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:16.240 so you you know that they used to have like 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:20.920 a warehouse was like a like a idea. It's like, look, 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.520 look before your famous. They used to throw these parties 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:28.399 girl style DJs and it was like big supermarkets, but 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:30.720 it was a club and they had these big, huge 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.840 sound systems, speakers as told you could see. So you know, 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:35.640 one day I went out there with my eight a weight. 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:40.840 She used to do her freestyle and you know, time 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:45.080 can't lie, Timeline can't lie people, do you straight up? 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:46.600 So I came out here with the eight o eight 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:52.040 put that ship on boom. Motherfucker's was like what the 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:55.399 everybody read it and look because he had the big system. Hey, 0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:59.560 I'll come with an eight a week next thing. You know, 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:03.800 a few years later Miami got Base, so you know 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:05.280 I could I could have been when I brought the 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:09.280 base in Miami with the awight with back in the day, 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:11.960 because everybody ran to look and see what the hell 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.320 I was doing because they were just playing the records 0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:18.040 they were. You came and played original records that played 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.359 the eight. You know, I brought the eight away drummers 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.360 drum Machine actually did it right there, plugged it into 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:29.720 their system and she was doing a freestyle and everybody's like, 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:35.800 what the fund is that? Oh ship? So how did 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:39.640 you meet bis Markey? Bisin? That's he was another person 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.800 that came out to Queensbridge to meet me, okay, and 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.680 so he hung out there for about a week and 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:47.920 Queen's h He just was hanging out. He was on 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:51.000 like you know, business was like, hey, well, youn't even 0:24:51.080 --> 0:25:01.080 corded him, you did. Nobody beats the BIS. If I 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:06.960 gotta buy this apartment, somebody out what I'm saying. So yeah, 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:08.960 so he came in. He was like like that girl, 0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:10.359 but he came out to the Queen. He came out 0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:12.440 to the Queen's Bridge. But he was like a guy 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.280 hanging out. So he hung out on a twelve street. Yo, 0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:19.760 were good. So you're hanging with them for a few 0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:23.120 days that he go on this block. You're hanging with them, 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.960 just staying on the block overnight whatever. Next thing, you know, 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:30.040 like about the fourth day or fifth day, somebody said, yo, 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.720 nig in the hall with beatboxing, and I was like, yeah, 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.800 I want to hand no feedbox ass nigger right now. 0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:41.080 Buffy's out dusk. Everybody you know, like it ain't a 0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.840 room for that right now. It's like, yo, buddy nice. 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:45.479 I was like, all right, let me go see him 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:53.240 as soon that Ni could come in my house to mom. 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.480 He made a quick demo the next you know, that 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.920 very next day, which was make the music now now 0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.600 now because Bis, like I always say I want to 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:04.840 play Bis in a movie, right, you know what I'm saying, 0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:07.480 because he could he frum comedy like that's that's something 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.520 that I like, I admire about hip hop. I just 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.600 always felt like hip hop was so serious, like all 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:14.600 my videos are always like trying to do some type 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.119 of comedic did how did you know that about this? 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.639 Like did you or did you even know that? You 0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.560 knew that? I recognized that when I saw him on 0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:26.360 stage because he used to you know, when he once 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.000 he started working with Shant and they started doing little routines, 0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:33.080 and I started saying, seeing he kind of nice, but 0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:35.840 he he ain't rough like everybody else be working with 0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:38.439 g Rapp, you know, g Rapper carry with the lyrics 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.440 back in them days, and even Shan was nice. Shan 0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.720 was kind of nice back in the day, if you 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:47.879 know what I mean. So when Bis came this, he 0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:51.119 had some fun. He like saying he was always joking 0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.960 in the studio, so his rhymes we kind of never 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.760 took serious because he's kind of joking and laughing and 0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.359 all that, and you know, so he started bringing the 0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.960 comedic side out of us. So because because Kane wrote 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:10.760 nobody be the business. No, it was business. Um wait 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:18.159 for my movie and see like, yeah you know that, 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:22.240 so you because I do have the original demo somebody 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.760 else did years wait for the movie and see wow, 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:30.120 that's that's that's to be right about that. Actually, drink holly, 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.920 but throw it out there, my brother, you gotta have 0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:34.960 a drink with us, a brother, come on, come on, 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.600 all right? So what else was it recorded in the 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.040 bridge before we move on? Of course? Of course the 0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.359 bridge record was of course you know that Molly scratch 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.960 was recorded in the bridge. You know, of course we 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:51.760 know everybody's president. And my melody was made there, um 0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:55.920 roxy and chante. The earlier, my earlier take it off 0:27:55.960 --> 0:28:02.080 by spoon EG was made there. I made that there, yeah, 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.840 take it off by spoony G and what else? So 0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:08.520 so those are yea my earlier records. How are you 0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.480 guys recording the vocals? I had a four track with 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:15.080 with with a bullshit mike, with no a real four 0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.359 track with the real Yeah. First, my Morley's Crash was 0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:20.879 a four track of set. Because you know, I was 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:22.920 already sampling, I alread, knew how the sample, so I 0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.480 was beating people already. I could add a two track 0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:28.200 and still beat people because I was sampling and taking 0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.480 the breaks. Nobody knew what the funk I was doing. 0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.680 Did you? Did you you started sampling um for for 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.760 hip hop breaks? Um? I don't know if I if 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.640 I did or not. But I made that ship fun. 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.400 You know because my brother and the you know, the 0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.800 High Fidelity crew from Queensbridge, they used to play a 0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.280 lot of breaks. So far I was a DJ, so 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.200 I had access to the ship because my brother was 0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.440 one of the DJs. We went to the service I 0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.880 had that's to all the ship they was playing. So 0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.280 you know, nobody used to Busin Beat was one of 0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.520 the records that they used to rock as a breakbeat. 0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.920 You give what I'm saying, fly like an eagle. That's 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.120 from that ship, you know what I'm saying. So I 0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.600 would take elements from my brother and them records and 0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.320 you know, make me seem older because it was shipped 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.600 that they used to rock before I was I was 0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.840 able to get on. At what point is Jewice Crew 0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.400 getting created all this? Now? Jewice Crew, you gotta think, 0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:30.440 sir Juice is Mr Magic? A lot of people run 0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:32.320 up to me and say Mr Magic, mally mall, but 0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.400 they called me Mr Magic Molly Mall. That's two people. 0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:37.800 A lot of people don't know. Mr Magic was the 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:42.560 first rap the first person to play rap period on 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:46.720 the radio and bring it and bring it mainstream compilations. 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:48.600 They used to come out right. He used to be 0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.720 on late night, you know, playing the rap music, you 0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.760 know when nobody was even caring about it, you know 0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.640 what I mean. So he was the first rap DJ. 0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.760 When he went to BLS, that's when I got with him. 0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.320 I became an engineer all start May Marl with the 0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:08.360 mixing gloves that I never wore. So, um, how did 0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.800 you a sh Shannon is from the Bridge obviously shan 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:16.640 um chance actually from Brooklyn? What chance from? You are 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:21.560 killing my childhood? No chance from left Left fits left 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:26.360 Fits Boulevard or Leftts Avenue and in Brooklyn. But his 0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:30.880 mom's his mom's father was was Graham's. You're gonna go 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.440 a lot of people's childhood. But no, no, no, but 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.840 that his grandfather lived in QB. So he's the frequent 0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.520 and that thing started getting famous. He still started staying 0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.440 with his grandfather. But you know, his first contract that 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.800 I got just says left fits Left its boulevard wow 0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:54.880 from Brooklyn's Oh goddamn, Oh my god, I tell you 0:30:54.920 --> 0:31:00.880 this may be the most important. I would have never 0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:02.440 thought that. I would have never thought you would have 0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.960 said that just for bick up pick up, bick up 0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.720 ship happen. He did did red for the hood. You know, 0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.840 you know he got our story told. So how does 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.600 that happen? Because this is this is a legendary record, 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.800 This is the this is the whenever you Queensbridge, they're 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:23.239 gonna play this record. What I'm saying, Bridge, you got 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.160 you got telling the story about naas they tell a 0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.600 story about Mark. That's the first record they're gonna go to. 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.520 So how does this come about? Do you know you're 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.520 gonna make the anthem for your hood? For thirty fucking 0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:36.920 years and not checked this out? It wasn't supposed to 0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:38.480 be a record, Like I said, Nothing that I made 0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.440 was supposed to be a record for you to play. 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.400 I was supposed to be intermission music for Queensbridge day 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.440 in the park that I could play in between the bands. 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:52.800 What so that was like that was like a Queen's 0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:56.560 Bridge intermission record for us only. So I played it 0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.440 in the park and I believe that, yes, somebody got 0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.760 killed too. God bless the rest to day. I guess 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:06.200 little Hose eight from TENN Street, right, he got he got, 0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.360 he got hit. But that's what it was. It was 0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:13.040 intermission music, okay for in between because the bands was hot. 0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:16.520 We wasn't nothing. The bands was the ship. Every the 0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.920 record comes out. So what happens after the record is made? 0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.120 Do you know? That's what I'm saying. You and she 0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:23.920 ain't looking at each other like we got the anthem 0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:27.200 for the Hood say, it's just the intermission, just intermissive intermission. 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.120 So and so we made it two years before the 0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.680 public heard it. It was already floating around the Hood heavy. 0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:38.000 My nephew leaked it out Fredo who leaked it out 0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.360 to the Hood, and then like everybody had the tape. 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.880 I was like, damn. And then you know lawrenceon and 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.800 was doing beat biter. Uh. You know that's when Shamon's 0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.440 going that LNG is like, yo, put that on, you 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.400 know from Philly, put that jump, Put that Joan on 0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.240 the B side. Man, there ain't no record. That's some 0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:56.920 ship we made in the house for Queen'sband's Day. What 0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.640 you're talking about now? I put on the B side. 0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.120 I was like, yeah, let's let it go. It's already 0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.600 leaked out in the hood. Next thing you know, me 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:09.760 and Shan started doing crazy shows. You can you know, 0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.520 you know, you know the reaction you get a hot joint. 0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:15.160 Next thing you know, your show appeal start going up. 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.000 And that's why I knew that work. We started getting 0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:22.120 crazy shows. So then you what do you what comes 0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:27.120 out after this? Um, the Bridges Over or the South Bronx. 0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.959 South Bronx came out. South Bronx came out because Magic 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.720 c Carross. One of them was that Power Play while 0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.640 we I was recording Power Playing Queen. Yeah, that's where 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:43.360 they made Bridges Over. They made that ship in power 0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:47.719 playoff you want to talk about in the Beatles, they 0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:52.200 the Bridges over. They let me explain. Let's explain that 0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:56.480 now were using the studio doing bite this. Okay, we 0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.920 don't about South Bronx. We're talking about the Bridges Over. Right. 0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:10.200 When we're talking about we're talking were gone now places 0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:18.080 play studio right, Okay, I'm in I'm in the A 0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.960 roomps in the b room. There was they was but 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:26.160 but checking because they wasn't even knowing nothing yet. The 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.520 just and they're making demos just putting their money up, 0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.680 going in the lab getting me together. Now we we're 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.839 in the studio. You know, scotlar Rock comes in the room. 0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.880 You know, Mr Magic please to meet you. Thank you, 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.000 you know, bah blah blah. Could you please come in 0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.160 our room and listen to our ship and tell us 0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.920 what you think? So you know, in my magic I'll 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:49.520 be in there later. Mr Magic was very unruly. He was. 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.360 He was really me and the motherfuckers. You know, God blesses, 0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.920 you know, God blesses, godless so but you know he was. 0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.040 He was one of them dudes that he was like, yeah, 0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.239 if he didn't like you to tell you, oh, man, 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:03.319 what the fund is wrong with your head cutting? He's 0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:07.040 like that, okay, okay, by the way, you did say 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.400 that the king. That's why the head went up. And 0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.880 now now Mr Magic and your molly, now this is 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:19.560 you know, I'm just magic engineer, Dji. You gotta be 0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.200 about it could be about seventeen eighteen or some ship. 0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.560 I'm mad, mad skinny because I didn't make money yet, 0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.000 you get what I'm saying. So I'm like anorexic. He's like, 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:31.719 you'll come with me, man in the room and listen 0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.560 to the I was like, all right, bet let's go. 0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.239 So now we're going the room. They put off some song. 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.439 They all going, they're jumping on crazy around the room. 0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:47.040 Mr Magic looking around, he just goes over to the volume. 0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.120 Now I'm turning that ship down now you know how 0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:52.160 it is in the studio, and just get silent. He 0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:57.800 looked there and said, Yo, that she is bullshite. And 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.279 because the whole cruise like a whole room full of motherfucker's, 0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.239 it was just me and Magic and then they could 0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.960 have just started squaring off if it was real like that, 0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.440 but I guess it wasn't because that was a square 0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:17.040 off moments it was. It was real disrespectful, Yo, that's bullshit. 0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:20.839 He said, Yo, you wan't real hip hop. Mc shan 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:25.279 rock Sant Molly Maul, Mr Magic, Mick, get the funk 0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.480 out of He just bumped out the room on these niggas. 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:33.680 What did you think of the record? Though? It wasn't 0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.320 It wasn't what they It didn't It didn't have the 0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:39.160 energy of what we made them come out with. It 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.040 was in South Bronx, if you know what I mean. 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.879 It wasn't nothing like the album They regrouped the ship. 0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:48.320 They didn't play South Brons. That wasn't the record. No, 0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:55.359 they ever come out. So you guys just magic nothing 0:36:55.400 --> 0:37:00.080 that Mr Magic is from Brooklyn. I thought Brooklyn. He 0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.000 moved to the Bronx. Okay, okay, okay. But then after 0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.680 that that put that you know that ship now heat 0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.279 this stuff like that. So everybody he said, and they 0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:13.920 face they put on the record, m Rox and Shanta 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:19.880 is good for Mr. You know what I'm saying. Everybody 0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:24.759 who he's putting their face, they might have made that 0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.480 record that night. They could have got the fuel that 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.080 night they make it. Niggas got the bridge outman funk 0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.680 that South bron So you know that could have fueled that. 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:37.640 But next thing I know, I heard South Bronx and 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:41.640 I'm like, I'm like, to be honest, I was like, Yo, 0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.200 niggas ain't gonna believe these niggas, man, fuck them niggas. 0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.440 That's that's how I felt about that first, Like nobody's 0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.680 gonna leave the niggas man, because you know, number one, 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:51.560 we ain't say that. I don't think people was that 0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:54.080 dumb kind of to believe that ship to believe what 0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:58.880 that that that he said that we said the hip 0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.279 hop started in Queen's Bridge, but we didn't say that ship. 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:03.960 I'm like, I think we didn't even say that. I 0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:06.000 like when people smarter than that, they ain't gonna believe 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.759 that dumb ship because we never said that. Who's gonna 0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.960 believe this dude. The next thing, you know, that ship 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.120 became a hit. I'm like, that made me think that 0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:21.319 damn that niggas is like kind of slow, especially at 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:24.160 that time. I made me really think that. I was like, Yo, yeah, 0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.160 but you know, it's it's all good because you know, 0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.400 we need to teach you in hip hop was history 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.280 and I'm glad we made history. But in the beginning, 0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:36.640 I was like, I didn't think nobody was gonna believe 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:40.520 that ship because we never said that. And so so 0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:42.520 Shan like, Yo, let's let's go back in the lab 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:44.919 and let's go make um kill that, you know, which 0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.360 I believe should have been like a three verse record 0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.319 or maybe two verses because it's first two verses out 0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:52.360 in the track is the track was kind of dope. 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:55.759 Then they came back with the bridges over which you know, 0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:59.520 it's just crazy. What's crazy? And so that day we 0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:03.600 rushed at the studio, magic distem. I leave my drum reel, 0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:10.480 My my my magical drum reel that made Eric Reas president, 0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.799 that made nobody beat the bills, that made me go ship. 0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:20.880 They take the box, they shake the drum reel, and 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.719 that's the drum drum bridges over because you stop one 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:32.839 number on the seats. Well, they took my drum, saying yeah, 0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:38.919 that's why that is so Fun's like, it's my that's 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:43.799 my That's why they collin and say, yo, we took 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:47.359 it from Eric Begs president. That's my ship. That's why 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:51.839 I said, so motherfucking funky. I don't think carris One 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.560 told us that part. Now. I don't think that's gonna 0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:57.520 be the most important. I don't even tell y'all some more. 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:02.520 I think he like the book drinking you left that. 0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:07.799 So so the bridges over actually comes out, you said 0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.800 you don't believe it. But what was what was like 0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.520 the biggest blacklash for that, Like was it a moment 0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:17.239 where you where you felt uncomfortable, like because serious I 0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:20.040 wasn't working with them change when did chores with them 0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:23.000 and make commercials and all that. I was not later 0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:25.799 during that time period. That was a little after because 0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.000 remember they had a sprite commercial actually have been a 0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:29.960 sprite commercial. I was like, no, I ain't working with that, man, 0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:33.320 y'all go get that, y'all go do that, because you know, 0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:35.480 I was like, I wasn't working with them for for 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:37.600 years and years. I ain't. I ain't work with all that. 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:39.960 I was like, I didn't. I wouldn't start producing g 0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.520 Rap to get what I'm saying, g Rap and King, 0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:47.560 I just went to the next, next, next level ship. 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.080 But you know, I never I never want to make 0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:51.640 money with it. I was like, man, go ahead with 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:54.160 it that. I don't want to be no commercials, none 0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.400 of that bulls. What was it a time where you you, 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.120 you like, felt shaky because you know, like when a 0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:02.239 person they like most of the times when you have 0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:05.040 good battles, like real good battles, they'll say that once 0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:08.000 a person leave, the other guys finished. Like it was 0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:10.000 at a time you felt like that because of that 0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:13.799 record or though nah, I felt that I had more 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:16.680 in the bag because he was producing. I was like 0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.360 I had more in the bag. You know, I was 0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.560 already working with g Rapp already he was like on 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:25.480 the low. We probably had a demo already, if you 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.200 know what I'm saying. So I was already on on, 0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.759 you know, and then King was hanging around, you know 0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.080 what I'm saying. So I was like on the next 0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.920 phase already. So I let let that one, Let that 0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:38.200 one go to where it was going. How are you 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.400 now with care? We made that album when it was 0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.839 a big, biggest selling that we made Hip Poplars. It's 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.600 one of the biggest sellers. That's one of his biggest sellers. 0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:48.680 You know, that was years after because I only did 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:53.120 that because I I read his bio because for years 0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:55.840 I didn't you know, I forgot about these nicks in 0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:59.239 the studio that day, that Magic you know what I'm saying, 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:00.960 He used to this the main people. It was like 0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:04.560 this so so regular. I don't remember the disease niggas 0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:06.640 at power Play for we got read his bio and 0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:09.080 it said it in his bio Mr. Magic power Play, 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:14.600 and I was like, remember that day. So for years, 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:16.000 all of the years, I didn't know why they were 0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.319 so mad at us. I was like, you think it's 0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:21.239 mad at us man, we're killing ship out here, but yeah, 0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:24.920 we're changing the game. You're mad at you know what? 0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.760 I'm saying, so I never sucked with them what they're 0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.560 mad at. We were slaying the game. You get what 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:33.799 I'm saying. So I never understood so once I saw 0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:38.160 that years later, oh that was them dudes. Now it 0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:41.120 all makes sense. I saw Chris one day, I was like, yo, Chris, 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.200 I didn't know you then that time in the studio 0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:46.279 me and started laughing about it. I said, yo, man, 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.040 we should do something. And then we worked around and 0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:51.160 you know, did that album. But that's how that all happened. 0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:53.480 But you know, I wasn't working with none of that 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.520 ship back in it. I took it very serious. I 0:42:56.600 --> 0:43:00.400 took that ship verning verning bull of our serious. What 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.200 was it the room was that just Ice came to 0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:06.000 Queensbridge one day. I don't know, okay, I don't know 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.239 anybody could come to Queensbridge come about in the morning 0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:14.799 time ten am, yeah yeah, yea, yeah yeah yeah yeah 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:19.880 yeah yeah. You know, you know, nobody's gonna go starting 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.759 because I always thought that the beef was like respected, 0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:25.879 like I always thought like like like like she had 0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:29.640 new what it was and care rest knew what it was. 0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:33.520 So they said it. That's how it ended up. That's 0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.200 how it ended up. But because they started doing shows together, 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.640 they started doing the commercials and doing a lot of stuff. 0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:41.600 But to get it, it was none of that. Um No, 0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.040 I wasn't working with it. But I never sucked with 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.160 it at all. I never you think you think it 0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.279 would you would have like it would have been violence 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:54.160 if you would have like Queens. Yeah, you know what 0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:58.200 I'm saying, it's crazy. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad. 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:01.000 We gotta. I don't think we watching over Juice Crew 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:05.480 like like like the like the Marvel Comics of hip hop. 0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:10.080 I think Juice Crew was like like like like the 0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.040 epitome of like with the firm was supposed to be 0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:14.800 and like these other like certain things it is supposed 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.680 to be. Uh, But the Juice Crew was the first. 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.960 Was definitely the crew blue print. It was a blueprint 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.480 for what was next to come. Even Coach Chilling was 0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.480 a blueprint for like bad Boy and Cash. And I 0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:27.920 didn't own Coach Chill and I was a staff that 0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:31.400 was an owner coll I was a staff producer. I 0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:36.640 always took you old. Let me tell you what my 0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:38.680 first my first job of Coach Chilling, I was a 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:42.480 staff producer so they would have I will pop up 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:44.000 with the artists and go in the studio. I was 0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:46.960 making sixty five thousand a year the first first year. 0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.279 Then when we got with Warner Bros. Started making two 0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:52.120 hundred thousand hours a year. But I still lived in 0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:54.640 the Queensbridge making two two hundred thousand dollars a year 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:58.080 and my rent was like a hundred fifty dollars. I 0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:04.400 had to get I had to get the funk. I 0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.759 had to get the bad man. I paid the rent 0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:18.280 for like twenty years and she so um. You started 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:22.879 working after Sha, after Sean Tate. Is that when Big 0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:26.480 Daddy came come to the rap Rap co Gi rat 0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:31.200 rappers from Corona Corona slash left right and need the 0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.319 left rock a little while I'm big, I'm gonna big 0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:36.960 it up in my building. I think I believe right. Yeah. 0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:39.200 Ce Polo used to go to school with me. I 0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:41.880 go the wild ass schools because I never When I 0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:43.920 was in school, they kicked me out of every school 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.799 period because I was, you know, robbing everybody. You would 0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.000 never think that, but I was the nigga robbing niggas 0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:52.239 you know I was. I was so nice I could 0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.520 go in the closet in school and go up in 0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:57.160 the event and come down to another classroom and go 0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:01.200 through their pocket. I was nice with it, spider Man, 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:07.440 Spider Man, what I'm saying, I told you the MARLP. 0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.360 So so from that, they kicked me at at like 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.600 regular schools. In like fifth grade, I had to go 0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.480 to like six hundred schools. It's like junior jail type 0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:19.960 rich Wood. I went to school. I went to PS four. 0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:25.600 You know, there's nobody alive from that school where nobody's alive, 0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.160 damn there. But um, you know, and I went there 0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:32.400 and you know, and I met Polo. Polo was in 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:36.040 my class. So you know, after I got famous, me 0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:38.359 and Polo stayed cool and I was like, yo, man 0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:40.960 make a group or something. Man through something and get 0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.719 a wrapper. And I told him, get a rapper, you know, 0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.160 I I rock with you, Shi, And he had his 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:50.080 new dude, the Frosty Freeze. First, that was his first rapper. 0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:53.080 They made a record called Polo Polo whatever, and then 0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:54.799 you know it was whatever. He went to jail. He's 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:58.279 still in jail to this day. I did. But but 0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:01.279 then he got g rap up do dude was you know. 0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:06.040 Then that's when the whole my whole production started changing 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.759 because g Rapp now g Rappers on some different ship. 0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.480 That's when I started, you know, sampling up the it's 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:17.920 a demo ship, the drumming ship before everybody, because you know, 0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:21.760 he was on that gangster ship early, I mean early 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.360 before I've ever heard it anywhere else. I wasn't always 0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:29.440 hearing g Rapper telling little gangster stories and street stories 0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.600 and ship. So that's where you know, I was tarking 0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:36.880 with him. And then and then then we moved moved up. 0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:40.080 From then we started, you know, bis then we started 0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:45.480 doing um, you know Kane Kane. What came was this 0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.080 is this hoo flat top gules and eight nine came 0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:53.160 this Who's after not someone talking about he's talking about 0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:56.680 he's business writer and I didn't believe him. Kane talking 0:47:56.680 --> 0:48:01.200 about went to fast. He first in the afro. He 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:05.399 didn't have the high top figure. Okay, so queeze breast 0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:07.600 down and I just want to move to the story. Okay, okay, 0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:09.960 started you move people to the story. You just moved 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:14.560 right on the block. I mean the story. I'll tell 0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:17.520 you a funny story. But I got my first got somebody. 0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:20.759 I moved right to conroll I the same exact things 0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:28.640 and townhouse. Yeah, I think it's like, think I can 0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.080 still see you there. What do you mean it was 0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:33.160 a town Oh you have the town. You have a 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:35.800 town looked like a townhouse. It was just still a 0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:40.600 regular forment. So you moved to a story. Yeah. And 0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:45.200 now now now business ly, some some Afro looking stick 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.120 up nigga knocking on my door talking about yo, I 0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:55.440 write for bids. I'm like, you know, the burner right here, 0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.800 man got the door halfway open and ship. I'm like, 0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:03.560 if you write for them, tell me something that didn't 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:05.560 come out yet, and he told me one of the 0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:09.279 round was opened the door, come in and ship. Yeah, 0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:11.800 I write for bids. And he's late. I'll had this 0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:15.359 for him for today. So we're sitting there. He's like, yo, 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:18.160 you know, I want to see our sound on tape. 0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:22.320 Because he wasn't trying to be I mean, like you 0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:23.920 just want to be right. He was. He was a 0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:28.200 rapper already. He was dope, but he wasn't really flexing 0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:30.680 to us that he was a rapper because their whole 0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:34.399 thing was let bids get on first, and he's gonna 0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.759 open the door for everybody. You know what I'm saying. 0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:39.280 So he was, you know, he just wasn't doing protocol 0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:42.759 and he's like, yo, you know, yeah, you know, but 0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:45.320 but he was in the room, in the room and 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.960 he's like, yo, you know, I always want to see 0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:50.319 our sound on this joint. He said, you know, I'll 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:52.359 take you there. And I whipped it up real quick. 0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:55.160 I mean, that was the first, the first recording I 0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:57.239 haven't made with him. While we was waiting for bids, 0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.399 you may, I'll take you there, his first, his first record. Ah, 0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:04.000 and you know, and I went to the record company like, yo, 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:07.040 business writer, is this ship he needs to come out. 0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.759 They're like, no, man, he's the writer. They was, they 0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:13.239 was trying to front back Seat King. Yeah, they're trying 0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:15.440 to front at first, Like so you know what I 0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.880 would do with Kane just record ship around everybody because 0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:20.480 coming to the studio when so and so it's gonna 0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:22.359 show up, you can't come to the lab blah blah. 0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:24.880 So we started doing his album kind of behind the scenes. 0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:28.640 But the first the record company they fronted on Kane, 0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:33.320 they say, that's business writer, you ain't no rapper. But 0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:35.160 they didn't hear him. I did. I'm like you know 0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:38.960 that nigga nice, that nigga, that nigga nice enough to 0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:43.759 come back later and change the motherfucking games. So so 0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:47.800 so you but he's not so he's coming up. So 0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:51.239 when was it with the Afro with the Africa and 0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:54.279 you told him, you said Magic told him. Magic was like, Yo, 0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:57.359 you ain't getting on stage represent for us with your 0:50:57.400 --> 0:51:05.120 head like that ship. You ain't getting on stage represented 0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:08.160 Juice Coup with your ship like that. And then I 0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:10.279 think that's when that Hot Top Faith pop back with 0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:15.759 the Hot Top Faith. So you got to see k 0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:18.680 go from like come up, we know that to to 0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:22.279 because at one point Kme was like like jay Z, 0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:26.000 like of now time, how did you? How did how 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:28.560 did that feel like? Getting to see that process? Um, 0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:31.560 it was really good because at that point that's when 0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:35.799 Kane changed rap. After Rule Rapp was never to sell 0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.440 him again. It was never the same to break that 0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:41.840 down for us, you know because before Rual, before I 0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.160 made that record Rule with Big Daddy Can, everybody was 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:51.640 whopping the can. You know all the records, records, you 0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:55.359 couldn't walk to roar. That was that ship that made 0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:58.960 your face got who the funk is that? After that 0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:04.200 for two years straight. Ror had to be the last 0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:06.880 record played in the club, in the club at the 0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:08.600 end of the night, because you can't play nothing after 0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:10.960 it was so dope. People had to catch up to that, 0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:14.399 you get what I'm saying. So when rock Kim first 0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:17.120 came to my house, you know Rock Kim, you know, 0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:19.520 I saw an interview where he said, Molly trying to 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:21.920 change my style. I didn't try to change the styles, 0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:23.839 trying to bring him to where where it was going, 0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:28.200 because eventually he went there. Anyway, you get what I'm saying. 0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:31.319 The first record was my melody. Then everybody's president took 0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:33.680 a little faster, do you know what I'm saying. But 0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:37.480 my my initial idea when I first heard rock Kim 0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:42.839 was to speed because because King was doing one thirty 0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:45.520 something already. You know what I'm saying. King was already 0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:49.880 speeding there. He was already speeding, He was already rhyming 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:53.400 off of fast beats. So and then later on in 0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:55.840 rock kim career, I let the rhythm hit him so 0:52:56.120 --> 0:53:02.840 so song. So everything's fast because Kane came made he 0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:06.520 can change the game with rur that was it. Nobody 0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:09.560 couldn't make White records and no more it was. It 0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:12.720 was already public enemy came out speeding, l I was speeding. 0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:17.520 Everybody was speeding because Kane took the tempo. Came a 0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:22.279 motherfucker's want to quit. I know, I know, motherfucker's come 0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:25.319 to me that that that that nigga's loved saying. When 0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:28.399 I first heard motherfucking came, I was I was going 0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:32.080 to quit because that nigga was nice. He changed the 0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:35.319 motherfucking game and he was smooth with it. Then once 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:40.120 the bitches started liking him, it was over. But you 0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.560 know what I'm saying, it was over. And then he 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:46.200 did the Madonna and he want pop. He moved out 0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:48.840 to l A. You know, you know we had to 0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:52.560 excuse that hold out to l A. But you know 0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:55.279 sometimes you know, like like we was pioneership, didn't know 0:53:55.280 --> 0:53:58.360 what he's getting into it. But you know, you know 0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:01.280 he got he got Hollywood and you did the Hollywood 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:03.520 Hollywood and definitely do you ever look at this new 0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:07.160 generation to be disgusted? No, I look at it as evolution, bro. 0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.239 I can't evolution is a good way or evolution? And 0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:13.480 was we evolution in a good way? You get what 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.640 I'm saying. Get the people who don't like what the 0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:18.759 young kids is doing. You're too old. You know what 0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:20.520 I'm saying, because when I fell in love with what 0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:23.080 I was doing, I was about eighteen years old. So 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.000 whoever's eighteen years old? Pythone love what they're doing right now. 0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:29.319 And that's that ship. Niggas in their forties and fifties. Man, 0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:31.080 shut the funk up, man, that these niggas do it. 0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:39.800 These niggas did it kids, because did you stay honest? 0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:43.040 I'm sure when I came out with some sampling niggas 0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:46.399 like there ain't music? Is he doing what I'm saying? 0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:49.440 Everybody's like, man, funk that that ain't music. The musicians 0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:53.040 was mad at me. I'm sampling you, musician, niggas. Now, 0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:56.600 I got a button to press. But what table is 0:54:56.600 --> 0:54:59.239 probably saying the same thing about us exactly, you know 0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:01.759 what I'm saying. So I'll just call an evolution. Man. 0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:03.960 Let these little niggas do what they do. Man, if 0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:06.960 they want to mumble, mumble on, niggas fun that do 0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:11.040 that ship. If that's what they want to hear, go ahead, ship. 0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:13.920 I told niggas around and where you you ain't mumbling 0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:18.560 niggas ain't trying to even hear you, ain't trying to 0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:22.000 get you better. Get your mumblong. Let me tell you that, 0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:32.840 get your mumblong. Niggas gett paid right in private jets. 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:38.960 That's very true mumbling. Now, come on, bro Wally, how 0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:43.280 the hell did you miss Knaves? How you the inside? 0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:46.320 You know what the funny ship about Nas with me 0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:49.960 with Queen's Bridge. I never knew Nas run. He never 0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:52.280 came to me. He would always stand on the side 0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:55.200 and watch. So you're saying, like that ship in the 0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:59.320 album the rock Shan movie is like, I don't remember 0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:01.440 he Ryan for he was sucking. I mean he was 0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:03.520 sucking with Hub like that. Because of Seante was a 0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:05.759 street girl, so she knew everybody all over the hood 0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:09.440 of course. But Nas never stepped to me because I 0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:15.000 had co Omega. Co Omega had sex, drugs, bitches and 0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:18.200 money song out in the hood. Yeah you know listen, um, 0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:21.239 I heard it called Mega first, like he was the 0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:25.240 first like guy heard from Queensan's like underground of course prior. 0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:27.840 But that's that's why, that's why NS probably never stepped 0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:30.480 to me, because I already had Mega Mega was working 0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:35.000 with me but he kept going to jail. Yeah, let's say, damn, 0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:39.160 Mega kept going the jail. I remember that. You know, 0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:42.440 even you know, even with Percy tragedy back in the day, 0:56:42.719 --> 0:56:44.839 you know, you still live on my block. He went 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:46.600 to he went to he went to jail, and I 0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:48.440 didn't control so you know, I made sure he came 0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:50.800 over the money. You get what I'm saying. So you know, 0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:54.919 all right, boom, but you know, him and Mega kept 0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:58.120 going to jail, so I couldn't really get it how 0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:00.160 I needed to be because they would come home, them 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:02.520 make some hot ship. Next thing, you know, they're going 0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:05.320 for a minute. I'm like, damn, what then are we 0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:07.240 supposed to be doing? Why are you going for a minute? 0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:10.160 You know what I'm saying. Mega Mega had sex, drugs, 0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:12.320 bitches and money. That was some song. He made it 0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:16.760 in Queen's Bridge before anybody was on that ship now. 0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:19.960 But he went to jail. Yo, man going away. We're 0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:21.600 in the studio. You know I'm going away next week. 0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:24.360 You're going where you're going. I'm going to jail. I 0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:27.080 gotta do like three points, so like what the fund 0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:30.560 is talking about, I gotta do like three three three, 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:33.240 maybe four or five whatever I'm like, come on, bro. 0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:37.120 So that's why you know, with nas nas never really 0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:39.880 stepped to me because that street ship he was doing 0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:43.600 already already had those dudes and certified cats fund the hood. 0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:46.720 You know, I already had Mega and and you know 0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:50.360 the second verse on Live Motivator, that's the blueprint of 0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:53.840 Queen's Bridge. You know, anybody that's here my voice, go 0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:58.120 listen to the second verse of Live Motivator, and that's 0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:03.480 the blueprint of of what was the yet to come. Right, 0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:08.720 you have you have a regretted you're not step into Nas. No, no, no, 0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:11.400 because I understood what it was when they came to 0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:14.080 getting OS. What do you mean like, you know, when 0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:16.200 the industry came to getting OS, I understood what it was. 0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:19.880 You understood understood they needed him. You know what I'm saying. 0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:22.760 They needed representative from Queensbridge, the place I made hot. 0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:26.240 But even with MOB, the MOB, I understood what it 0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:29.760 was all about. They needed part of that, you know 0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:32.480 what I'm saying. And that was the next generation of it. 0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:36.560 So you know, by that point, but I think by 0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:38.680 time nas Can, I was already probably working with LLL, 0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:41.400 so I was it was something different going on in 0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:46.440 my life. Okay, looking the role the mockers all that 0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:50.880 we got a ball ball goddamn it. So um yeah, 0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.200 so you need that. I thought I thought that was 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:55.920 something you was just said you wish you was a 0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:58.760 part of. I mean, I wish you would have produced 0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:01.680 one of the records on the first Feel Matter. Yeah, okay, 0:59:01.840 --> 0:59:05.160 but you know me, but I'll do all albums, that's all, 0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:07.760 you know what I'm saying. And the first mob the 0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:10.960 premiere was the one that that executive produced, that one right, 0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:13.640 the hit Him on the Back project alway, yeah, the 0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:17.240 earliest first first, that first one before who executive produced it? 0:59:17.360 --> 0:59:20.560 You know it's premiere premiere was involved in that project. Okay, 0:59:20.800 --> 0:59:25.000 And how about that mom, Mom? I mean I understood 0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:28.480 what it was with Chris Lightning and then Rick Gardless today. 0:59:28.720 --> 0:59:31.040 I understood that they needed a piece of that Queensbridge 0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:35.160 Queenemans was bubbling at that point, you know, they needed 0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:37.520 any So I get it completely. I already know what 0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:40.680 it is. The spot was hot. The spot was hot. Baby. 0:59:41.920 --> 0:59:44.600 It's interesting because me being from left Rack and me 0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:48.120 hearing like you and Trash having turmorial, right, and then 0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:51.080 me being a part of We had a record called 0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:52.680 l A l A and he was it was the 0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:55.640 first person he thought it was you, and that was like, 0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:57.720 it was weird because I always thought you I had 0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:00.320 like some type of thing, and he came to you 1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:03.320 and it was it was actually like dope to see 1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:05.400 It was dope to see grown men and the boy 1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:08.600 was dope. Didn't even do that project? Man, did you know? 1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.360 Did you ever think that if tragedy never met me, 1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:15.360 if we don't be sitting here right now, just exactly 1:00:15.400 --> 1:00:19.040 what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying. Trash put 1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:21.919 me on. You put trag on, so in a way, 1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:25.120 if you was not, if you don't exist, I might 1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:27.800 love it. We might not be sitting here. You put 1:00:27.840 --> 1:00:30.520 him on his intelligent hold. At that point he was 1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:33.400 the super kid. Before in telling him he was the 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:35.600 super kid, I didn't know the story. The super kid 1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:39.480 woke up one morning, turn your radio, world couldn't sing 1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:43.400 your mama, and your brother was gone. The tragedy won't 1:00:43.440 --> 1:00:48.360 happened to me. Yeah, I got his name from that record. 1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:51.440 People start calling me tragic because of that record, and 1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:53.560 he just marn with it. Yo, I'm rocking with that 1:00:53.640 --> 1:00:55.880 I'm tragic. So that's how he used to make records 1:00:55.920 --> 1:00:57.520 back then, used to make it and throw it out, 1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:00.560 just make them wow. And I used to be like 1:01:00.640 --> 1:01:03.400 the radio radio DJ for magic, so you know, I 1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:06.480 was able to use it as a promo first and 1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:10.360 then watch it go. So how did you link up 1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:12.320 with trash? How did you even he He's from the 1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:16.080 block like Craig Craiggs from my building. Craig from my 1:01:16.160 --> 1:01:20.320 building in Queensbridge. Tragedy was the little little dude that 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:22.360 lived on the block on the first floor. They used 1:01:22.400 --> 1:01:24.320 to jump out the window and go to the park jams, 1:01:24.800 --> 1:01:26.680 you know what I'm saying. You know, we all grew 1:01:26.720 --> 1:01:28.680 up on the same block, so we all knew each other. 1:01:28.720 --> 1:01:31.360 I knew his mom's step pops. It's like, you know, 1:01:31.680 --> 1:01:35.360 everybody's on the same block, so you know. And they 1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:37.920 started getting warm and they started running, and I was like, yo, 1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:41.080 let's let's go make something, you know, And and the 1:01:41.120 --> 1:01:43.880 funny ship contract was sucked up. Back then, we did 1:01:43.920 --> 1:01:45.800 a lot of ship and just got paid that one time. 1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:49.840 But that's part of what it was, if you understand. 1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:57.440 So um Master's right Master as poet U s a 1:01:58.600 --> 1:02:03.160 the U s a skating ring contest. That's the Jackson Heights. Yeah, 1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:06.920 it's skating ranking Jackson Heights. He wont he won the 1:02:07.000 --> 1:02:09.320 skating ring contest to go in the studio with me, 1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:12.080 so we made one record. But he was nice. I 1:02:12.160 --> 1:02:14.760 was like, you know, he was really nice. He was 1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:17.840 too nice to be where he was at if you're 1:02:17.840 --> 1:02:20.720 asking me, I feel bad for his situation with with 1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:23.600 Cold Chilling because he was too nice and they didn't know. 1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:27.600 You know what I'm saying, because the chilling is the 1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:33.520 stars is Kane, right, it's g rap Right, was good 1:02:33.520 --> 1:02:38.440 and exchanged the old juice creus there, But so he 1:02:38.600 --> 1:02:41.680 came after everybody was popping and they couldn't really see 1:02:41.720 --> 1:02:45.200 what he was bringing. It was later when Mass States incorporate, right, 1:02:45.480 --> 1:02:48.880 that was the loser. Yeah, that's when it really that's 1:02:48.880 --> 1:02:51.560 when he popped off. I always felt ace that he 1:02:51.600 --> 1:02:54.600 had something special, but it was just too crowded up 1:02:54.640 --> 1:02:57.160 there at that minute. A lot of turmoor what was 1:02:57.200 --> 1:02:59.560 going on, a lot of that bullshit was going on. 1:03:00.360 --> 1:03:03.080 That was you're working with before track masters or or 1:03:03.120 --> 1:03:06.880 after truck masters, just before was before? Yeah, Yeah, they 1:03:06.960 --> 1:03:10.040 try to they try to re light that fire when 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:12.840 they put them with with them thinking that they can 1:03:12.880 --> 1:03:17.320 do what I do, even though he's just using all 1:03:17.400 --> 1:03:21.760 my samples back anyway, we were sampling you back. Yeah. Yeah, 1:03:22.360 --> 1:03:25.040 That's why I'm glad I publish him because jay Z 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:27.720 and Maya joint they made put my daughter through school 1:03:35.200 --> 1:03:41.160 track masters. Jennifer appreciates that when when the person does 1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:45.440 sample you, is it is it? Is it honor or? 1:03:45.720 --> 1:03:47.560 Like how do you feel? How do you feel about that? 1:03:47.880 --> 1:03:49.880 But first they better make a hit because we're trying 1:03:49.880 --> 1:03:52.080 to make money if you sample me, but I'm sample 1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:55.200 me on the flops. But you know, um, a lot 1:03:55.240 --> 1:03:57.720 of people don't know that that that song thorough flu 1:03:58.080 --> 1:04:02.200 can't the young nigga get money? Need moore? Kanye Kanye 1:04:02.280 --> 1:04:06.680 saying my life. People don't know, people don't know on 1:04:06.880 --> 1:04:10.959 thorough Flute. Yeah, you know, Candi, young nigga get money. 1:04:11.440 --> 1:04:14.360 But remember L said that on the record too. So 1:04:14.680 --> 1:04:17.040 we owned a lot of that record, the Kanye record, 1:04:17.640 --> 1:04:19.200 and it came at a time when she was a 1:04:19.240 --> 1:04:22.160 little funky for me and it really changed my life. 1:04:22.200 --> 1:04:24.320 I gotta like, thank you, Kanye, because I kind of 1:04:24.400 --> 1:04:26.680 changed my life. And don't know, but when you made 1:04:26.760 --> 1:04:30.120 that record. It's dope. It made so much motherfucking money 1:04:31.000 --> 1:04:34.320 that it was a life changer, Let's know what I mean. 1:04:34.520 --> 1:04:37.080 And and I'm I'm wanted to thank him for that. 1:04:37.120 --> 1:04:39.320 You know, he probably don't know, but you know I should. 1:04:39.400 --> 1:04:40.800 You know, we have our ups and that out of 1:04:40.960 --> 1:04:43.000 downs and loss, so you know, it was it was 1:04:43.040 --> 1:04:45.640 on a down down with Spiral and one day I 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:48.160 got a calls and we went to the clear thorough flute. 1:04:48.400 --> 1:04:50.000 You're a writer around. I'm like, what you're talking about, 1:04:52.360 --> 1:04:54.640 Kanye is gonna do it on Soul Training tomorrow. You 1:04:54.920 --> 1:04:57.440 need to prove it. What are you talking about? I 1:04:57.840 --> 1:05:00.320 never ain't got nothing to do with that song. Now. 1:05:00.320 --> 1:05:01.960 I listened to it and I didn't catch it, and 1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:03.800 I looked under as Captain showed me, as it right 1:05:03.960 --> 1:05:06.520 for you to not catch it. I didn't catch that ship. 1:05:06.880 --> 1:05:10.360 And that ship was popping for like two summers when 1:05:10.360 --> 1:05:12.200 I was here in that ship for two straight summers 1:05:12.440 --> 1:05:16.360 popped into it and everything not knowing but Joe by 1:05:16.400 --> 1:05:19.160 the time, you know, by the time anything tallied up 1:05:19.400 --> 1:05:22.960 and everything came around and the publishing popped, it was. 1:05:23.200 --> 1:05:24.800 It was life changing. Were you ever on the other 1:05:24.880 --> 1:05:30.720 side of that issue about sampling. Um, yeah, I got 1:05:30.800 --> 1:05:32.800 sued on four A Round Away Girl and Peace the 1:05:32.800 --> 1:05:35.680 President on a Round Away Girl, And the asshole that 1:05:35.760 --> 1:05:41.080 sued me gave me the record, but he went back 1:05:41.400 --> 1:05:43.880 and brought the rights to it. After that sampled and 1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:45.920 put it on all these hits and then sued me. 1:05:48.280 --> 1:05:51.080 You're getting no pub I ain't gonna say your name, okay. 1:05:51.160 --> 1:05:54.080 Cool Dayly was the one that caught like. That's when 1:05:54.120 --> 1:05:57.680 that whole sampling thing started, right there is markis Mark 1:05:57.880 --> 1:06:02.480 was the first sampling case that that that somebody one 1:06:02.600 --> 1:06:06.360 for sampling. It was given or Sullivant alone again naturally, 1:06:07.000 --> 1:06:11.360 and he used it on on his record and he 1:06:11.480 --> 1:06:15.000 got sued. And that's when Olilois realized you can sue 1:06:15.040 --> 1:06:18.720 for sanding the whole other business. Then everybody started coming 1:06:18.760 --> 1:06:22.240 out suing everybody but bis Monkey that you know, after 1:06:22.280 --> 1:06:25.720 I stopped producing everybody for Coach Chilling, they started trying 1:06:25.760 --> 1:06:29.480 to replicate what I was doing for them. But they 1:06:29.640 --> 1:06:31.920 you know, sampling when I used to sample, used to 1:06:31.920 --> 1:06:34.400 be kicking snares high hat and I'm making my own beats, 1:06:34.680 --> 1:06:37.360 making my own sort out of it. I wasn't looping 1:06:37.600 --> 1:06:39.440 like half of the records and stuff like that, and 1:06:39.800 --> 1:06:43.200 acting like I produced something. You're just taking sounds, taking 1:06:43.280 --> 1:06:45.720 sounds and manipulating the sounds and making my own patterns 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:49.640 and putting stuff over it. That's how I started sampling. 1:06:51.200 --> 1:06:54.360 Maybe I'm to be honest, maybe I'm the first person 1:06:54.440 --> 1:07:03.560 to chop up a beat, m another fucking to make 1:07:03.600 --> 1:07:06.160 it unrecognizable, to make you Now, to make my own 1:07:06.720 --> 1:07:08.240 soup out of it. I could take a kick of 1:07:08.280 --> 1:07:11.280 snare and put my own pattern at it, you know, 1:07:11.480 --> 1:07:14.640 like like Araby as president, like nobody beast the biz 1:07:15.240 --> 1:07:17.680 and those are that's in Peace the President. But I'm 1:07:17.680 --> 1:07:20.200 making my own beat out of that sound. So I'm 1:07:20.280 --> 1:07:23.360 the first to do that. And Peace the President's the 1:07:23.400 --> 1:07:26.400 tragedy record, that's arrest the President's tragedy. Arrest the President 1:07:26.560 --> 1:07:29.840 was on tragedy record later on what kind of flat 1:07:29.920 --> 1:07:32.000 did you? How you see you back then? Because we 1:07:32.520 --> 1:07:34.760 make an arrest the president? Right now? What is making 1:07:34.800 --> 1:07:37.880 fake Donald Trump songs and left and right right? But 1:07:38.000 --> 1:07:43.000 back then, Yeah, but back then he had a few visits. Yeah, superservice. Yeah, 1:07:43.000 --> 1:07:46.560 he he probably had a few visits. Wow him personally, 1:07:46.720 --> 1:07:50.040 you gotta ask him he told me a story or 1:07:50.080 --> 1:07:53.320 two about he had a visitor to h and this 1:07:53.440 --> 1:07:55.240 is when hip hop because now I remember we had 1:07:55.320 --> 1:07:58.160 fun the police from n w A. So now he's saying, 1:07:58.320 --> 1:08:03.840 arrest the residents and you produced this correct. So yeah, 1:08:04.160 --> 1:08:09.760 so the backlash so you you didn't get nothing? Okay, alright, cool, 1:08:09.800 --> 1:08:17.719 Well God better make sure. Yeah, scary moments, how because 1:08:17.760 --> 1:08:20.160 we live in a scary time right now? Real, cl 1:08:20.760 --> 1:08:23.960 real crazy? What yeah? What is what is the craziest 1:08:24.000 --> 1:08:26.519 thing that you saw that said, man, I gotta fall back? 1:08:26.960 --> 1:08:30.960 This is we we out of line. The craziest thing 1:08:31.000 --> 1:08:37.880 I've seen. It's how and you know, it's how certain 1:08:38.880 --> 1:08:42.960 entities and people want to keep our people stupid, if 1:08:43.000 --> 1:08:44.960 you know what I mean. So that's like black falling 1:08:45.000 --> 1:08:46.760 type of stuff. No, no, no, they want to keep 1:08:46.800 --> 1:08:50.280 you know, like kind of like keep it where you 1:08:50.360 --> 1:08:52.479 don't have to be intelligent to make a lot of money, 1:08:53.120 --> 1:08:55.559 keep us, you know, make people have to stoop down 1:08:56.439 --> 1:09:01.639 to go back and be vert. Get about streaming. Streaming 1:09:01.680 --> 1:09:03.360 is the ship is just the new. It's the new, 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:06.320 you know, it's the new money making now as opposed 1:09:06.360 --> 1:09:11.400 to you, you know, buying my record and buying my property. 1:09:11.560 --> 1:09:13.400 Now you can stream it. Now I can still make money. 1:09:13.960 --> 1:09:15.960 The more streams you make, the more money you make. 1:09:16.080 --> 1:09:18.400 But you don't have to actually Downlottle wild right, keep 1:09:18.439 --> 1:09:22.360 listening to it and it can spread. Like streaming. Streaming 1:09:22.439 --> 1:09:24.479 was good. They had to do that. They had to 1:09:24.520 --> 1:09:28.000 get ahold of this digital. It was out of control first. 1:09:28.080 --> 1:09:30.599 But when c these first came and started getting digital 1:09:30.640 --> 1:09:34.200 and MP three's and the napster. Yeah, they were saying 1:09:34.280 --> 1:09:36.800 CDs was like the like the most expensive ship, and 1:09:36.880 --> 1:09:39.160 the labels were disrespectful with CDs the way they were 1:09:39.200 --> 1:09:42.479 overcharging for what it was causing them. But when digital 1:09:42.600 --> 1:09:45.640 came out, that was that's when everything stuff. They had 1:09:45.680 --> 1:09:47.680 to learn how to control that. Now, streaming is the 1:09:47.720 --> 1:09:50.519 way to control it because if you're streaming it from 1:09:50.560 --> 1:09:54.519 a site that's generating money now advertising for them that 1:09:54.560 --> 1:09:57.519 they got to pay because you're looking at these artists 1:09:57.640 --> 1:10:01.240 right now, they don't care about sales. They don't care 1:10:01.800 --> 1:10:04.400 They had money off streams, and that's what it turned into. 1:10:04.720 --> 1:10:07.080 The industry had to figure out how to make money 1:10:07.120 --> 1:10:10.280 off for digital because they was losing in the beginning. Yeah, 1:10:10.600 --> 1:10:14.160 that's real talk. So now you're kind of log it 1:10:14.400 --> 1:10:17.280 is that. Yeah, all your kind of you do you 1:10:17.400 --> 1:10:22.800 get like stream um some of the stuff um, the 1:10:23.160 --> 1:10:26.759 later successful stuff, Yeah, because a lot of my earliest 1:10:26.760 --> 1:10:29.280 stuff was just what it is. Just it wasn't even 1:10:29.600 --> 1:10:32.160 even at the contract. And yeah, digital you know, to 1:10:32.200 --> 1:10:36.599 be honest, digital was never nobody nobody contract digital. Yeah, 1:10:36.640 --> 1:10:39.080 there wasn't nobody. It was all physical. I was wondering 1:10:39.120 --> 1:10:43.759 when the hardest was. I was wondering when the industry message, 1:10:43.920 --> 1:10:46.880 when the industry was going to sue for for digital rights, 1:10:46.920 --> 1:10:50.400 because as artists, we never signed for this. Y'all just 1:10:50.479 --> 1:10:54.559 took it there Chuck d Suit University and one Chucky 1:10:54.680 --> 1:10:57.040 was killing with internet radio early on. He was always 1:10:57.080 --> 1:11:00.800 ahead of the curve. But everybody signed contracts and didn't 1:11:00.800 --> 1:11:04.040 sign for streaming and didn't sign for digital. It wasn't 1:11:04.040 --> 1:11:07.560 and it made that concept and want to pay you 1:11:07.600 --> 1:11:10.439 what they want to pay you. Do you know what 1:11:10.479 --> 1:11:12.160 I'm saying. They just want to give you what they 1:11:12.240 --> 1:11:15.320 want to give you. It's probably not what we deserve 1:11:15.760 --> 1:11:19.200 because sales probably was more. We probably get like three 1:11:19.280 --> 1:11:24.200 point two percent of opinion every stream when we was 1:11:24.200 --> 1:11:28.439 getting twelve percent or nothing before. All right, do you 1:11:28.479 --> 1:11:30.679 get what I'm saying. So we could be getting less, 1:11:31.040 --> 1:11:33.439 but it's just what it is. I was wondering when 1:11:33.439 --> 1:11:36.679 the artist was gonna step up to that. Yeah, I swell, 1:11:37.160 --> 1:11:43.080 we got we got we gotta do that. Not a symphathy. Yeah, man, 1:11:45.080 --> 1:11:46.840 I need to fall back and just tell me how 1:11:46.920 --> 1:11:50.439 the hell is happening? H You know on my album 1:11:50.520 --> 1:11:53.360 cover you see us that the UM the jet and 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:56.000 led Jet. I thought that was up t the borough early. Um, 1:11:56.320 --> 1:11:58.639 was you the first to do that clear port? No doubt, 1:11:58.760 --> 1:12:05.360 not some art. We broke the mother fucking plan port 1:12:05.640 --> 1:12:12.880 and the clear point and that's clear point. Okay, Okay, 1:12:18.800 --> 1:12:23.960 Now that day came. You know, before that day, Kane 1:12:24.000 --> 1:12:26.720 and g Rat made a freestyle off of Ror where 1:12:26.760 --> 1:12:28.439 it was going back to back and it went all 1:12:28.439 --> 1:12:29.800 the way out. It was it was like some some 1:12:29.880 --> 1:12:31.760 of I played on the radio like a few times, 1:12:31.800 --> 1:12:33.560 but everybody was getting excited. If you got this, you 1:12:33.600 --> 1:12:36.400 got this in all carves, I'll do it. We could 1:12:36.400 --> 1:12:41.160 we drink chance dot com. So what happened after we 1:12:41.240 --> 1:12:44.320 made that um that photo shoot in front of the 1:12:44.320 --> 1:12:48.200 airplane and led yet and all that, and so Kane 1:12:48.240 --> 1:12:49.720 was like, yo, let's go make a record, and I 1:12:49.840 --> 1:12:51.840 was like, bad, let's let's recreate that thing y'all did 1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:56.120 off ror, but everybody was with us. So we went 1:12:56.200 --> 1:12:59.639 back to We went to um the story that was made, 1:12:59.680 --> 1:13:02.200 the story it since and so god, I mean the 1:13:02.240 --> 1:13:05.600 story of projects, not story project, the story apartment. And 1:13:06.439 --> 1:13:08.840 so when we get there, Master eight was there because 1:13:08.840 --> 1:13:13.160 he's on the album. UM Shim was like, yo, I'll 1:13:13.160 --> 1:13:17.760 meet your LA's album right, yeah, my control album. I 1:13:17.880 --> 1:13:20.280 mean the leg at get the back of it. So 1:13:20.439 --> 1:13:23.639 now we're go and make that record. Now, nobody wants 1:13:23.680 --> 1:13:26.519 to run first, so let I said, let me put 1:13:26.600 --> 1:13:28.559 Master Ace on it just to fill up the space 1:13:28.560 --> 1:13:30.360 because he wasn't gonna be on the rect because the 1:13:30.360 --> 1:13:32.639 person at the end of that time was the hot 1:13:33.040 --> 1:13:36.920 hot So nobody first said, I don't care whose first, 1:13:38.320 --> 1:13:40.200 because you're seeing that talking about I don't want to 1:13:40.240 --> 1:13:43.679 be first, I don't want nig I don't care first last. 1:13:43.760 --> 1:13:52.200 Y'all just listening closely and was trying to do what 1:13:52.280 --> 1:13:55.639 I did that was a kipper. Everybody heard his rhymes 1:13:55.680 --> 1:13:59.720 like all ship this this new nigga, this new nigga, dude. 1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:02.800 The nobody didn't want to be on the record. With 1:14:02.880 --> 1:14:06.920 that nigger. That's probably why she didn't show what because 1:14:07.080 --> 1:14:09.720 we're supposed to be in Shamon was gonna come to that. 1:14:09.840 --> 1:14:11.960 He was gonna be on that record, you know what 1:14:12.000 --> 1:14:15.599 I'm saying. So he got on. He killed it. Everybody's 1:14:15.600 --> 1:14:19.280 looking at him like, oh ship. Everybody got heavy in 1:14:19.360 --> 1:14:22.360 the panic, got quiet, seeg Wrap over there. You see 1:14:22.439 --> 1:14:25.400 motherfucking Cane over there. And then then Craig g did 1:14:25.479 --> 1:14:28.000 his part, which was hot, and then all of a sudden, 1:14:28.640 --> 1:14:30.920 they're looking at you all, who's gonna go? Who's gonna go? 1:14:31.360 --> 1:14:33.639 They don't. They all get about who's gonna go first? 1:14:34.439 --> 1:14:36.920 Man g Rap gets on and wraps all the way 1:14:36.920 --> 1:14:39.720 to the end of the beat. He didn't give Kane 1:14:39.760 --> 1:14:45.920 no space before I happened. I had to cut the 1:14:46.040 --> 1:14:49.600 wraps part down and then give Kane some space. But 1:14:49.760 --> 1:14:51.760 they can't say right there with the wrap, just went 1:14:53.360 --> 1:14:55.080 looking at each other like if they had. They always 1:14:55.120 --> 1:14:59.120 had like a ill inside competition going on, and I 1:14:59.240 --> 1:15:02.000 loved it. Felt like all three of them, like g Rack, 1:15:02.439 --> 1:15:05.280 Kine and Rock him, I felt like it was always 1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:08.000 a secret. Let me explain something to you about the 1:15:08.080 --> 1:15:11.760 whole creation of Eric B and Rock kim Okay. I 1:15:11.920 --> 1:15:17.439 was introduced to Eric by Polo, So I'm trying to 1:15:17.439 --> 1:15:21.320 say that the Corona so so where it was Eric 1:15:21.400 --> 1:15:26.000 b was hanging around with Polo with us first, right, 1:15:26.680 --> 1:15:30.080 so he saw a Polo get with g Rat and 1:15:30.160 --> 1:15:32.720 make a group. He's like, I think I could do 1:15:32.800 --> 1:15:35.320 this ship too. Wait wait, so g rap came before 1:15:35.520 --> 1:15:40.040 came Kim rock him. Yeah, I always start rock him 1:15:40.479 --> 1:15:43.720 and then and no talk of ever rock him being 1:15:43.760 --> 1:15:46.840 a part of Juice Crew. No, because that's all I 1:15:46.880 --> 1:15:48.840 can think about what you keep talking about all. You 1:15:48.880 --> 1:15:51.599 know what's crazy when when I when we first made 1:15:51.640 --> 1:15:55.160 My Melody and Everybody's President, I think the Verybody's President day. 1:15:55.560 --> 1:15:58.479 I gave them like demo mixes. I was like, I'm 1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:00.240 gonna mix this next week so to make a copy 1:16:00.240 --> 1:16:02.960 of what y'all guy? And that was the record. It's 1:16:03.000 --> 1:16:06.800 all sloppy. Ship was all loud, but it was the ship. Ship. 1:16:07.680 --> 1:16:11.120 She's like vocals going, U'm riding Vocal's live. You know, 1:16:11.280 --> 1:16:13.360 she's all loud coming out of nowhere at the end 1:16:13.400 --> 1:16:16.639 of the records and ship. But that was the record, 1:16:17.200 --> 1:16:19.880 and that's what people loved. And but I'm telling you, 1:16:20.240 --> 1:16:25.439 I don't think if if if Eric B wasn't hanging 1:16:25.439 --> 1:16:28.519 around Polo, he probably would have got the idea to 1:16:28.720 --> 1:16:32.519 do a group m because he saw a polo do 1:16:32.640 --> 1:16:35.000 it so easily with us. He's like, Yo, fun that 1:16:35.120 --> 1:16:37.439 everybody coming up there and becoming stars. I could I 1:16:37.479 --> 1:16:40.000 could make a rapper come up here too, Yo, could 1:16:40.040 --> 1:16:42.240 we get the studio tomorrow? I got someone still coming in. 1:16:42.240 --> 1:16:44.000 And that's how it kind of happened. He was hanging 1:16:44.040 --> 1:16:48.679 around Polo first, all right, Polo kind of like popped 1:16:48.720 --> 1:16:51.120 it for him. When you first seen rock Kim, did 1:16:51.160 --> 1:16:53.680 you did you think he was good? Because Rock Kim 1:16:54.040 --> 1:16:56.760 I heard you say can change rap earlier. Rock Kim 1:16:56.880 --> 1:17:00.120 changed rap too because he came. Definitely, he definitely he 1:17:00.600 --> 1:17:03.599 had a dope tune. When I first heard his tune, 1:17:03.640 --> 1:17:06.600 I knew it was off the motherfucking change and I 1:17:06.680 --> 1:17:09.400 had a bullshit Mica and he still was dope, so 1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:12.280 I already knew just this motherfucker nice right here. It's 1:17:12.320 --> 1:17:15.840 something something different about his word play. I always knew 1:17:15.880 --> 1:17:18.200 he had wordplay, but if you know what I mean, 1:17:19.280 --> 1:17:20.920 he always had wordplay. And as soon as I heard 1:17:20.960 --> 1:17:23.000 it from the top or this cat wasn't that he 1:17:23.040 --> 1:17:25.600 didn't curse right, and he didn't curse too, and it 1:17:25.680 --> 1:17:29.160 was hard motherfucker. I never really peeped. He didn't curse. 1:17:29.400 --> 1:17:32.760 He never really curse. Curse word. Yeah, you wouldn't think 1:17:32.800 --> 1:17:41.000 that that that's real talk. What Chad was really fucked up? 1:17:41.120 --> 1:17:43.519 Right now? I was thinking all I mean, yeah, he 1:17:43.640 --> 1:17:47.280 was just dope. Yeah, he had wordplay, work playing and flow. 1:17:47.760 --> 1:17:49.639 When you heard nas that he remind you a rock 1:17:50.760 --> 1:17:54.599 first time you heard nas, because that's what everybody said, 1:17:54.640 --> 1:17:57.680 you know, the first time I heard Nash. I think 1:17:57.720 --> 1:18:00.800 it was an't hard to tell and was the first time. 1:18:01.600 --> 1:18:05.960 If I have the time, I hadn't want the barbecue first. Yeah, 1:18:06.120 --> 1:18:08.080 that's when everybody's like, yore the kid from from the 1:18:08.200 --> 1:18:10.479 from the forties side and back to the Brilligate wasn't before. 1:18:11.160 --> 1:18:13.439 I don't think I maybe I didn't pay attention to 1:18:13.520 --> 1:18:15.080 it like that. You at to get too much money 1:18:15.120 --> 1:18:18.519 at that time. Yeah, he was out there killing. Yeah, 1:18:18.520 --> 1:18:20.200 I could have could have missed that one. Bro. By 1:18:20.200 --> 1:18:23.840 the time the barbecue came out, that's when that was like, Oh, 1:18:24.640 --> 1:18:27.360 I went to jail for snuffing Jesus when I was twelve. 1:18:27.439 --> 1:18:31.240 I went to help with stuffing. Jesus Jesus when when 1:18:31.280 --> 1:18:33.720 I heard him say that ship, because I was like 1:18:34.040 --> 1:18:37.600 this niggaid, my architect was so proud of twelve I 1:18:37.640 --> 1:18:40.680 went to help us. I was like, God, this is 1:18:40.680 --> 1:18:43.360 how you fucking found back my da. I was so 1:18:43.479 --> 1:18:46.639 proud of my fucking hood. I was like, good man, 1:18:47.439 --> 1:18:50.840 that ship was so dope. Gotta be proud, Yeah, you 1:18:50.880 --> 1:18:54.400 gotta be proud. Uh this these new kids from from 1:18:54.520 --> 1:18:58.479 Queen's Bridge right now Jay Rosette, So I just look 1:18:58.520 --> 1:19:00.720 out for him and shoot. Uh. I like his little 1:19:00.760 --> 1:19:03.760 movement that he got to my people from laft Flack 1:19:03.840 --> 1:19:07.679 block game. But um so, what's your favorite ror and music? 1:19:08.479 --> 1:19:15.840 My favorite era it has to be like like like 1:19:15.960 --> 1:19:19.360 the Eric Bist President era, like eighty I would say 1:19:19.439 --> 1:19:22.720 eighties six to eighty nine or eighty eight six to 1:19:22.800 --> 1:19:25.880 eighty eight was something. It was like something special, was 1:19:26.280 --> 1:19:29.639 like special albums came out at that time. It just shifted. 1:19:29.800 --> 1:19:32.240 It was definitely a shifted. It was. It was a shift. 1:19:32.680 --> 1:19:34.840 It was more sample heavy because I haven't told everybody 1:19:34.880 --> 1:19:39.599 with how to make records literally change. Everybody got better. 1:19:40.280 --> 1:19:43.519 You know what I'm saying. You have people digging, digging 1:19:43.600 --> 1:19:45.920 for shifting. You know, you use that, I'm going to 1:19:46.040 --> 1:19:49.000 use this, you know what I'm saying. That was such 1:19:49.040 --> 1:19:51.200 a great time right there. They'll probably would never be 1:19:51.320 --> 1:19:54.840 like that ever again for the music, and that was 1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:58.720 such a pinnacle point of everything we love and it 1:19:58.800 --> 1:20:01.760 won't go away when you're working right now around the world. 1:20:01.840 --> 1:20:04.760 DJ and't just playing that ship playing I don't know, 1:20:04.840 --> 1:20:07.240 but talking about that era, what did you guys think 1:20:07.240 --> 1:20:08.800 about what was going on the West coast at that 1:20:08.880 --> 1:20:12.000 exact same time, Um Easy and n w and all 1:20:12.000 --> 1:20:14.040 of them coming up. I remember the first time I 1:20:14.160 --> 1:20:17.760 ever heard a motherfucker n w A record, Ice Tea 1:20:17.920 --> 1:20:20.000 was already out too, and I think it was the 1:20:20.040 --> 1:20:23.439 first compilation they put when they all standing standing in behind. 1:20:23.479 --> 1:20:26.080 It was like an n w A album and they 1:20:26.120 --> 1:20:28.439 all standing behind some warehouse with the feel of first 1:20:28.479 --> 1:20:33.439 crew with everybody that was like, what was that that was? 1:20:34.200 --> 1:20:36.000 I mean they ended up putting that out afterwards. It 1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:37.760 was like a n w A in the family or 1:20:37.760 --> 1:20:41.320 something like that. Right, Yeah. I remember when I first 1:20:41.360 --> 1:20:43.240 heard a shoot off the Craig g put me up 1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:45.880 on them. Craig was like, now I'm I'm a guy 1:20:45.960 --> 1:20:49.040 to make records. I'm on the radio, I'm ready to 1:20:49.040 --> 1:20:51.880 make it hit records, and we're not cursing this ship. 1:20:52.160 --> 1:20:55.720 But when I heard these niggas, motherfuck this, I was like, 1:20:59.080 --> 1:21:02.280 this is some crazy easy ship right here. But I 1:21:02.439 --> 1:21:05.360 knew it because every every other rapper was. It was 1:21:05.400 --> 1:21:09.439 too clean. The mother was like, man, fuck y'all, funk everything. 1:21:09.600 --> 1:21:13.400 Fuck this, fuck that, fuck your mother. I see coming 1:21:13.439 --> 1:21:19.800 before them. Yeah yeah, Iced he was out, but he 1:21:19.960 --> 1:21:22.080 wasn't as roar as at that time. I mean he 1:21:22.160 --> 1:21:24.439 was doing this thing. I think what caught me with 1:21:24.560 --> 1:21:28.080 them was they beats. I wasn't into the earlier Iced 1:21:28.120 --> 1:21:31.040 Tea stuff because of the music wasn't It wasn't kind 1:21:31.080 --> 1:21:33.120 of like where we was at. Kind of it was 1:21:33.160 --> 1:21:35.479 like on the West Coast vibe. So I kind of 1:21:35.560 --> 1:21:37.960 kind of missed it a little. So it was Drake's production. 1:21:38.160 --> 1:21:41.200 Drake's production. Yeah, it was his drums. Crazy. He was 1:21:41.280 --> 1:21:45.760 newpooth beats and chopping ship and had band motherfucker's playing 1:21:45.800 --> 1:21:51.120 guitarest ship. I was like, god, damn, these motherfucker's is 1:21:51.240 --> 1:21:54.280 saying something. It was the ship to me, but I 1:21:54.439 --> 1:21:56.120 was stuck. I was like, yea, when I first heard 1:21:56.200 --> 1:21:59.120 this ship, I was like, Man, this motherfucker's just doing 1:21:59.439 --> 1:22:02.600 doing it and realized I realized how regional rat was 1:22:02.960 --> 1:22:06.639 gonna be at that point because we could have cared 1:22:06.720 --> 1:22:11.559 less what they was talking about, but out there they 1:22:11.720 --> 1:22:13.960 kid less what they was talking about. They could have 1:22:14.000 --> 1:22:17.080 cared less. But what then we just talking about because 1:22:17.120 --> 1:22:18.960 they had their own language. And that's what I've seen. 1:22:18.960 --> 1:22:21.920 It happened to rap. I go to different countries. You know, 1:22:22.600 --> 1:22:25.240 it's sucking people rapping in every fucking language, which is 1:22:25.320 --> 1:22:29.800 possible right now, you know what I'm saying, there's always 1:22:29.840 --> 1:22:32.600 something open up MC or DJ for me. Whenever I 1:22:32.680 --> 1:22:35.320 go to any country or whatever, they're wrapping in their language. 1:22:35.600 --> 1:22:37.840 And I'm seeing the progression all over the world and 1:22:38.000 --> 1:22:40.559 every part of every part of the world, every corner. 1:22:42.360 --> 1:22:43.880 And I would have never thought it would be like 1:22:44.000 --> 1:22:47.599 that sitting in my Queen's Bridge department making ship. Would 1:22:47.800 --> 1:22:50.559 I never thought it would be like that. That's crazy, 1:22:51.040 --> 1:22:54.280 That's a beautiful thing. Man. Hip hop savings got different 1:22:58.120 --> 1:23:05.240 says lives saves lives. So how did you link back 1:23:05.320 --> 1:23:09.960 up like l L because you wasn't one of them 1:23:09.960 --> 1:23:12.120 in the beginning, Right in the beginning of it was 1:23:12.240 --> 1:23:15.200 much drivers before Brian. He was going to Jim, we 1:23:15.280 --> 1:23:17.120 may we may beat by that. Remember that's why you 1:23:17.160 --> 1:23:19.880 said trying to take Uh yeah, because we got mad 1:23:19.960 --> 1:23:23.040 because you know, the rock the Bell's remake sound like 1:23:23.360 --> 1:23:26.040 Molly's scratch. So we was you know, we're young. Uh 1:23:26.400 --> 1:23:28.600 didn't give a funk going like yo, man, funk that. 1:23:30.160 --> 1:23:32.760 You know what I'm saying. But then you know later on, 1:23:33.880 --> 1:23:37.120 you know El from Queen's know what I'm saying. You know. 1:23:37.200 --> 1:23:41.400 The funny shing about L with me is my aunt, 1:23:41.760 --> 1:23:50.760 my father's sister H raised his wife. Uh like my 1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:55.040 father's sister was um Simon's um moms when she was 1:23:55.080 --> 1:23:58.800 alive of her best friend and Simone's mom passed, and 1:23:58.960 --> 1:24:01.960 my my aunt like, Yo to my best friend, I'm 1:24:01.960 --> 1:24:03.920 gonna take care of you. I'm gonna buy bye bye. 1:24:04.120 --> 1:24:07.280 And I never knew that. Wow. And later on and 1:24:07.360 --> 1:24:08.960 like me and l L kind of found out. That's 1:24:08.960 --> 1:24:11.040 why we got kind of type because we're talking about 1:24:11.439 --> 1:24:13.720 He said, Yo, you know Peggy, but I said, yeah, 1:24:13.720 --> 1:24:18.080 I got Aunt Peggy seven degrees. It's crazy. It was 1:24:18.160 --> 1:24:20.160 crazy because he said something about Aunt Peggy one day 1:24:20.160 --> 1:24:22.080 and I was like sho, I got a aunt Peggy. 1:24:23.840 --> 1:24:26.439 I was joking, but joking me, it's the same same person. 1:24:26.520 --> 1:24:30.160 Everybody called h and you know, and you know she 1:24:30.240 --> 1:24:32.679 used to she she used to work with his family 1:24:33.800 --> 1:24:35.720 even as the kids was growing up. And you know, 1:24:35.800 --> 1:24:41.280 we we never knew that that that we was that close. Wow, Yeah, 1:24:41.360 --> 1:24:45.160 that's that was that's my my father's sister. You know, 1:24:45.280 --> 1:24:49.000 she lived in Jamaica. I lived in Queensbridge. I didn't 1:24:49.000 --> 1:24:51.360 you know, I didn't know that that's what she was doing, 1:24:51.439 --> 1:24:54.839 but it was. It's weird. So after that, then musically 1:24:54.920 --> 1:24:58.120 we got together. It was insane, you know what I'm saying. 1:24:58.680 --> 1:25:01.680 And you know, we this went out to the who 1:25:01.760 --> 1:25:04.439 whole album you did together? Which one was it? The 1:25:04.520 --> 1:25:10.200 whole album? The whole album? Every every Reavy record? Which 1:25:10.280 --> 1:25:13.960 which album was this? And that was going at um 1:25:14.800 --> 1:25:18.080 Kumodou to the Break of Dawn was actually going at 1:25:18.920 --> 1:25:23.439 Kumo d iced Tea and hammer. Everybody was going to 1:25:23.479 --> 1:25:27.920 hammer al from now looking back at that time, yeah, 1:25:27.920 --> 1:25:30.120 everybody was going at him. But a lot of people 1:25:30.160 --> 1:25:32.679 is mad because he made a lot of paper. Yeah, 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:34.760 so you know that's a good thing, and it wasn't 1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:37.360 considered real hip hop. But you know it's that was 1:25:37.400 --> 1:25:40.760 the beginning of of that. That shouldn't let everybody see 1:25:41.160 --> 1:25:43.200 what records they should be making, because that's where it 1:25:43.200 --> 1:25:45.760 went anyway, every everybody went pop. That's where hip hop 1:25:45.880 --> 1:25:49.160 is at right now. Exactly what Hammler was doing is 1:25:49.200 --> 1:25:56.600 what mumbled rapids right now, He's right mumble. You know, 1:25:57.200 --> 1:25:59.320 it's the same place I go. I go to. You know, 1:25:59.360 --> 1:26:02.080 I start much a Future concert. Before I was like 1:26:02.160 --> 1:26:04.960 saying to myself, twenty years ago, this would have been 1:26:04.960 --> 1:26:08.320 a rock concert. Yeah, the same people in the audience, 1:26:08.720 --> 1:26:11.639 the same people on somebody's show. This the same blah 1:26:11.680 --> 1:26:14.160 blah blah. I'm seeing anybody out there. I'm like, twenty 1:26:14.240 --> 1:26:16.160 years ago, this would have been a rock concert. So 1:26:16.240 --> 1:26:20.000 I see how rap took that spot. So that's how 1:26:20.120 --> 1:26:22.439 hamming Ship was back in the day. This ship was 1:26:22.840 --> 1:26:26.280 a rock concert, you know, before they was doing it. 1:26:27.120 --> 1:26:29.519 You know, he had hundreds of people on stage dance. 1:26:29.600 --> 1:26:32.519 It was like a big production. That's that's a rock concert, 1:26:32.720 --> 1:26:34.960 just killing it, you know, And that's what these you know, 1:26:35.360 --> 1:26:37.720 you know, I went to Future show all and a 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:41.719 half motherfucker's was losing their mind straight to Eavery record. 1:26:42.040 --> 1:26:44.479 He's just doing half of versus and the crowd doing 1:26:44.520 --> 1:26:47.120 the rest. But you know, that was one of the 1:26:47.160 --> 1:26:50.240 most intense times I've ever seen. I'm a fan. I 1:26:50.320 --> 1:26:52.400 gotta get it because I got yes, so I can't hate. 1:26:52.560 --> 1:26:54.799 Can't hate these young kids, man. But as a producer, 1:26:54.840 --> 1:26:56.800 you think you could contribute to that or would you 1:26:56.840 --> 1:26:59.679 stick to what you think you're laying invent my wheel? 1:27:00.400 --> 1:27:03.240 You wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't 1:27:03.240 --> 1:27:05.200 do it. And I feel like there's room now it 1:27:05.400 --> 1:27:07.639 is for everybody to be in their own If anything, 1:27:07.760 --> 1:27:09.200 I would, I would do more E d M. It's 1:27:09.280 --> 1:27:12.439 something E d M. Really yeah, something like that as 1:27:12.479 --> 1:27:17.360 opposed to you know, trapp y'all do YO do? Before 1:27:17.439 --> 1:27:21.240 I started making hip hop, I was making electronic music anyway. 1:27:21.640 --> 1:27:23.920 That's why I had the edge over everybody because I 1:27:24.040 --> 1:27:28.120 was already tech savvy. I was working off the Baker dude. 1:27:28.320 --> 1:27:33.960 Come on, man, they was making a i OU Planet Rock, 1:27:34.160 --> 1:27:37.160 all these electronic beats and you know AI O use 1:27:37.240 --> 1:27:40.679 a sample. I was. I was an intern watching these dudes. 1:27:41.680 --> 1:27:44.200 So what I did is I saw what they was 1:27:44.240 --> 1:27:47.360 doing with these vocals and putting vocal samples. I'm like, yeah, 1:27:47.360 --> 1:27:49.720 I could put hip hop and that ship. I could 1:27:49.760 --> 1:27:52.240 put my favorite sniff and play it to a beat 1:27:53.720 --> 1:27:58.160 while nobody knew what the fun was going on. And 1:27:58.200 --> 1:27:59.600 that's why I was able to add the edge on 1:27:59.640 --> 1:28:02.920 everybody because I worked at Unique Studios and they was 1:28:03.000 --> 1:28:06.000 ahead of heavy fucking body. Unique Studios in my hand, 1:28:06.120 --> 1:28:08.760 yeah yeah, there was ahead of every motherfucking body. I 1:28:08.880 --> 1:28:14.120 like technology seven. Yeah, yeah, that was. I was a intern. 1:28:14.200 --> 1:28:16.800 That's why I started out. That's why I sampled my first. 1:28:17.080 --> 1:28:21.320 That's why I discovered sampling Unique Studio at Unique because 1:28:21.320 --> 1:28:24.320 I was doing something else and the tragedy bought us 1:28:24.320 --> 1:28:26.720 there for or report the album, right, So I was 1:28:26.880 --> 1:28:29.120 I was playing, I was sampling something else and the 1:28:29.120 --> 1:28:30.639 snare went in there and I started playing the snail 1:28:30.720 --> 1:28:33.920 the bat. I said, you'll turn this that bullshit snare down. 1:28:34.200 --> 1:28:36.760 I started playing my ship and I started thinking. I 1:28:36.840 --> 1:28:40.880 was like, oh, ship, I can take any kick, any 1:28:41.000 --> 1:28:43.439 snaire from any hot back. And I got home that 1:28:43.800 --> 1:28:48.240 that's proven already, and make beat. Nobody was thinking about 1:28:48.240 --> 1:28:52.040 that ship. All the favorite breakbeats to everybody would go 1:28:52.080 --> 1:28:55.559 crazy to in piece the President was the hottest record 1:28:55.640 --> 1:29:03.000 for any DC to play for years, and you know, 1:29:03.120 --> 1:29:05.640 put that shirt on the record. Every record that I 1:29:05.760 --> 1:29:08.040 have a sample those drums was a hit. Every record 1:29:08.040 --> 1:29:10.599 that ever used that was a hit because your brain 1:29:10.800 --> 1:29:15.160 likes it already. Mm hmm. It's it's a science. It's 1:29:15.200 --> 1:29:17.320 like the music that's out. Why do you think every 1:29:17.400 --> 1:29:19.920 beat sounds the same because your brain likes it. Yeah, 1:29:20.520 --> 1:29:25.400 it's the same drums, even the vocals, the melodies right there, 1:29:25.560 --> 1:29:28.760 because your brain likes it already. It's like it's you 1:29:28.840 --> 1:29:31.080 know what, It's almost like a chef. If he knows 1:29:31.120 --> 1:29:33.559 what you like, he could add those ingredients to everything 1:29:33.640 --> 1:29:36.080 he cooks for you, and you're gonna love everything he does. 1:29:36.840 --> 1:29:44.280 It's the same ship. That's ill. It's a science. That's 1:29:44.320 --> 1:29:55.240 as one of the most important shows, y'all like me, right, 1:29:56.920 --> 1:29:59.960 I got friends. His name is Scott starts right, Scott 1:30:00.080 --> 1:30:03.000 store shot one time was one of the hottest producers. 1:30:03.040 --> 1:30:06.759 I've seen him literally be outside with a cheese line 1:30:06.840 --> 1:30:11.879 outside his door. You at one point, well, the only 1:30:12.200 --> 1:30:15.120 mother fuck up you had, like you wanted to hit record, 1:30:15.520 --> 1:30:20.320 you had to see I imagine your cheese lines was crazy. 1:30:20.680 --> 1:30:23.360 I don't know that. This is surprisingly the people that 1:30:23.439 --> 1:30:26.160 came to my house. Bro. Back in the days, you'd 1:30:26.160 --> 1:30:29.200 be so surprised. Bro, let's let's get something. You know. 1:30:29.320 --> 1:30:33.280 It was. It was crazy. Um to this day you 1:30:33.360 --> 1:30:34.800 still like work in your house, like you got your 1:30:34.840 --> 1:30:40.559 own studio that worked for you your whole life. By changing. Yeah, 1:30:40.680 --> 1:30:42.080 you know, it was a point where I could have 1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:45.880 brought a big, multimillion dollar mansion or in s to sell, 1:30:46.240 --> 1:30:47.640 but I wanted to get I wanted to get that 1:30:47.760 --> 1:30:51.840 sellstead you have that in the crib not no more. 1:30:53.040 --> 1:30:56.000 But that was probably one of the first people to 1:30:56.080 --> 1:30:59.760 get word of crib because I felt it was gonna 1:30:59.800 --> 1:31:01.320 make money back. You know. I mean to me, I 1:31:01.360 --> 1:31:07.080 ain't buying the gold chains and stupid boards. Yeah yeah, 1:31:07.120 --> 1:31:10.840 power play having a big one. So I was always 1:31:10.920 --> 1:31:13.439 into buying equipment because I knew it was. It was like, 1:31:13.520 --> 1:31:15.920 it's like drug money I got, I gotta re up. 1:31:16.280 --> 1:31:17.920 I'm going to do to get better money. I gotta 1:31:17.920 --> 1:31:20.120 get better equipment, but I gotta get the best ship 1:31:20.200 --> 1:31:25.160 on the block. So instead of buying fabulous stuff, I 1:31:25.200 --> 1:31:31.280 would now in demand demand. You were like, I remember, 1:31:31.320 --> 1:31:32.880 like I should have go I was young, and I 1:31:33.000 --> 1:31:35.679 remember it like I knew if you had a hit record, 1:31:35.760 --> 1:31:38.200 you need it had to be produced by volleyball. Like 1:31:38.280 --> 1:31:41.080 how crazy was it? It was insane. I mean I 1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:44.840 was doing mixes for prints, Shakakoda was coming at there, 1:31:44.920 --> 1:31:47.880 was coming at me all over. Um. One time he 1:31:47.920 --> 1:31:51.240 even wanted me to produce the Beastie Boys. Wow, that 1:31:51.280 --> 1:31:53.720 would have been that wouldn't do crazy, That would have 1:31:53.760 --> 1:31:59.080 been crazy. But I was kind of like I would 1:31:59.120 --> 1:32:01.200 kind of like want to say at the culture for 1:32:01.479 --> 1:32:04.040 what it was. I never thought that. I mean, I 1:32:04.200 --> 1:32:08.439 dugged them, but I didn't think that they was what 1:32:08.560 --> 1:32:11.560 I was doing, if you know what I mean. You know, 1:32:11.640 --> 1:32:15.160 I had rough, rough fast niggers on the beats. We 1:32:15.320 --> 1:32:18.680 wasn't joking, so you know, but it probably would have 1:32:18.720 --> 1:32:21.160 been different. I think it would have been. I would 1:32:21.160 --> 1:32:23.880 have gave my hot beat did what they did now 1:32:24.000 --> 1:32:26.680 I see it, but back then then see it like 1:32:26.760 --> 1:32:28.639 I didn't see. I was trying to, you know, keep 1:32:28.760 --> 1:32:31.560 keep wrapped hard and keep it true to what it was, 1:32:31.920 --> 1:32:36.320 because it seem they were clown. Yeah. Yeah, but you 1:32:36.360 --> 1:32:39.080 know they think they think, you know, godarsted when they passed, 1:32:39.640 --> 1:32:42.240 but you know they did they think but I believe 1:32:42.360 --> 1:32:45.920 that I didn't. I didn't produce them because I thought 1:32:45.960 --> 1:32:49.719 they was clowning what we was doing. Kind of, I didn't. 1:32:49.720 --> 1:32:55.880 I didn't see that that too. It would that that 1:32:56.000 --> 1:32:59.240 would be the suburbs way in if you know what 1:32:59.320 --> 1:33:02.920 I mean, I didn't I didn't catch that is anything 1:33:02.960 --> 1:33:08.280 you ever regret. I regret not producing Michael Jackson, you 1:33:08.439 --> 1:33:12.160 had the opportunity. No, I regret not producing. That's that's 1:33:12.160 --> 1:33:16.439 what I regret not producing that. Yeah about you set 1:33:16.520 --> 1:33:19.479 us up? Regret that Ye just set us up, all 1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:24.400 of our hearts all my favorite group, God, God, God 1:33:24.520 --> 1:33:26.479 was my favorite group back in the day. I don't 1:33:26.479 --> 1:33:28.760 know why God was one of my favorite groups. But 1:33:28.840 --> 1:33:30.240 you you got a chance to work with them, and 1:33:30.520 --> 1:33:34.679 you did. Um. Now I wish, I wish I would 1:33:34.720 --> 1:33:39.080 have heard tell a story only right, and we want 1:33:39.120 --> 1:33:42.080 to talk about the story with the phrasing of the 1:33:42.160 --> 1:33:44.599 new Jack swing. You know a lot of people think 1:33:44.640 --> 1:33:48.479 that Teddy Riley kind of invented new Jack swing. But 1:33:49.240 --> 1:33:51.960 me and Heavy D was making records and he was 1:33:51.960 --> 1:33:54.360 always talking about his new Now he's always talking about 1:33:54.400 --> 1:33:58.000 swing beats. My swing beats, my swing beats, my swing 1:33:58.080 --> 1:34:01.200 beach that's before Teddy role even guy got what uptown 1:34:02.120 --> 1:34:04.160 if you know what I mean. So he's talking about 1:34:04.160 --> 1:34:07.240 his swing beats. So somebody put new Jack on the 1:34:07.280 --> 1:34:09.800 beginning of the swing beats and now that they they 1:34:09.880 --> 1:34:12.840 formed a whole new way of making it's music. But 1:34:13.760 --> 1:34:17.680 it's the form of the man Heavy D started. So 1:34:18.360 --> 1:34:20.720 you know, I wasn't ready at uptown earlier in the 1:34:20.840 --> 1:34:25.599 game making swing beats for Heavy D. See people collide, 1:34:25.760 --> 1:34:29.120 but the timeline doesn't lie on records. Go back to 1:34:29.200 --> 1:34:32.400 the early Heavy D records with me. Before uptown was 1:34:33.000 --> 1:34:36.320 new Jack swing. He's talking about his swing beats that 1:34:36.439 --> 1:34:39.960 I produced. But what specifically makes something New Jack swing? Um, 1:34:40.200 --> 1:34:42.559 it's just it was. It was. It was a timing. 1:34:44.280 --> 1:34:48.360 It's like one two want to want to? That's the 1:34:48.400 --> 1:34:53.080 new Jack swing. Regular was one two one two Jack. 1:34:53.680 --> 1:35:01.040 That's like crackhead music. Basically that ass. You gotta think 1:35:01.520 --> 1:35:06.960 crack has used to dance good to Jack tell the 1:35:07.000 --> 1:35:16.720 truth but hooks in the eighties. But the mother to 1:35:16.800 --> 1:35:21.040 say that that was to say how how much cocaine 1:35:21.280 --> 1:35:24.000 crack effect? Because that was that was that's when it 1:35:24.120 --> 1:35:27.760 invented all the records about crack and all that is 1:35:27.800 --> 1:35:30.840 about that error. So how much was that affected you? Like, 1:35:31.560 --> 1:35:34.360 I'm lucky for me. I mean lucky for me. I 1:35:34.439 --> 1:35:37.080 mean I thank God for this day. One day I 1:35:37.160 --> 1:35:41.439 tried to crack. It didn't work. Wait what it didn't 1:35:41.439 --> 1:35:44.760 come Yeah, it didn't work. Was getting high and us 1:35:44.840 --> 1:35:46.680 all in the place. I'm like, yo, check it out. 1:35:47.560 --> 1:35:50.160 So the glass maybe had air in it, so air 1:35:50.280 --> 1:35:53.040 came in instead of cracking. And I was like, oh man, 1:35:53.120 --> 1:35:56.760 she is whack. Ain't y'all do that? Give me the week? 1:35:57.560 --> 1:35:59.639 You know what? I'm saying that back in back that time. 1:35:59.720 --> 1:36:03.479 So God save my life by making the air come through. Nothing, 1:36:03.840 --> 1:36:05.719 because I see too many people that the air didn't 1:36:05.760 --> 1:36:08.679 come through, but they're not the same. How many people 1:36:08.720 --> 1:36:12.680 you see get high? I mean you just throw it 1:36:12.720 --> 1:36:17.599 out there. I've seen superstar artists get high. I don't worry. 1:36:17.680 --> 1:36:24.639 No one listens to us small. I want to Rick James. 1:36:26.479 --> 1:36:28.560 That's how not the man was. James wanted me to 1:36:28.640 --> 1:36:31.479 do something with him, so that up in there and 1:36:31.880 --> 1:36:34.200 I'm like, okay, I'm at Rick James house. I'm not 1:36:34.240 --> 1:36:36.160 gonna lie. I might have got hime with James my day. 1:36:36.280 --> 1:36:45.880 I'm ready to us today I gotta do one time 1:36:46.400 --> 1:36:52.479 Mr Mr p Funk himself, George George Clinton. He's like, yeah, 1:36:52.479 --> 1:36:55.280 we're going to pray. He does everything not one day. 1:36:55.280 --> 1:36:57.160 I was like, wait, he said we're going to pray. 1:36:58.000 --> 1:36:59.920 What that means? It sounds scared with us. Let's go 1:37:00.000 --> 1:37:02.640 in the room and pray. When they're talking about praying that, 1:37:02.800 --> 1:37:04.960 you know, they was doing their thing, and I was tempted. 1:37:05.000 --> 1:37:06.320 I was like, damn, this is like this would go 1:37:06.400 --> 1:37:08.679 down in my It's like a bucket list. I took 1:37:08.720 --> 1:37:11.760 a hit with this mother anybody right, I took a 1:37:11.840 --> 1:37:13.680 fucking head with him, and you know it would have 1:37:13.720 --> 1:37:15.400 been a bucking this. I didn't do it, but I 1:37:15.520 --> 1:37:18.840 was really thinking about it. No, there was there was, 1:37:18.880 --> 1:37:22.240 you know, doing whatever they or whatever they. I was 1:37:22.280 --> 1:37:23.639 tempted to do it with it, just so I could 1:37:23.640 --> 1:37:26.960 say in my mind, George hot that George motherfucking Clinton, 1:37:27.960 --> 1:37:32.960 not Bill George. That's all I was, you know, I 1:37:33.080 --> 1:37:35.400 was tempted. But if thing happened, because that was that 1:37:35.479 --> 1:37:38.400 was that was like an ill time like like like 1:37:38.640 --> 1:37:41.880 like that was like the first like like drug epidemic era, 1:37:42.120 --> 1:37:44.200 like you got to see you got to see hip 1:37:44.240 --> 1:37:46.920 hop go from happy to then you just have to 1:37:47.000 --> 1:37:48.880 hear these records. Maybe that was one of the reasons 1:37:48.920 --> 1:37:51.840 I had to lead a too, because it became like 1:37:53.040 --> 1:37:55.360 like at night, it was like night nightey living bass 1:37:55.439 --> 1:37:58.600 heads because like now we used to crackheads, but this 1:37:58.720 --> 1:38:03.320 is the original crackhead. It's the ringing era. Yeah, when 1:38:03.360 --> 1:38:05.960 the block block was dark and you see people just 1:38:06.040 --> 1:38:10.559 walking like zombies. Because I'm forty I'll be forty one 1:38:11.000 --> 1:38:13.799 this year, and I remember cocaine was like a classic 1:38:13.920 --> 1:38:18.120 drug and then crack actually at first was like the cool, 1:38:18.560 --> 1:38:20.519 cheap way to get to that. It was a cheap 1:38:20.560 --> 1:38:24.320 way to hit. And then like so you remember like 1:38:24.439 --> 1:38:27.479 the cocaine raw as opposed to the crack arrab like 1:38:27.960 --> 1:38:29.960 because you know, because the cocaine niggers over there over 1:38:30.040 --> 1:38:39.639 there like cocaine me cousin, my cousin, Burrows and Kiddle. 1:38:41.080 --> 1:38:46.240 He says he's down the clucaine. Listen. We've been trying 1:38:46.280 --> 1:38:52.800 to tell you for years. Boris is down, but he's 1:38:52.880 --> 1:39:00.720 not on that ship. Yes, Slippers is down. When listen, yo, 1:39:00.880 --> 1:39:02.960 that's why he'd be swaying like that. Like man, I'm 1:39:03.000 --> 1:39:05.680 just telling you that pay attention to your friend I'm 1:39:05.720 --> 1:39:10.559 just staring out there. Basically the cocaine in the Remember, 1:39:11.080 --> 1:39:13.840 because in the cocaine era, I wasn't really famous yet. 1:39:14.439 --> 1:39:19.519 I was still playing in in smitties after hours queens. 1:39:20.200 --> 1:39:22.599 It would be after hours. The number of spot man 1:39:22.760 --> 1:39:26.560 um um. It's not cheeking the pall. The pub was 1:39:26.640 --> 1:39:29.320 down the street. Okay, he's going to block the competition. Okay, 1:39:29.640 --> 1:39:32.800 yeah cool. You know, in the in the cocaine era, 1:39:33.080 --> 1:39:35.920 I used to be like a DJ and clubs. And 1:39:35.960 --> 1:39:39.759 then once I started getting famous, then the climate started changing. 1:39:39.800 --> 1:39:42.880 A little crack started coming out. Then the wools and 1:39:43.040 --> 1:39:45.800 started smoking rundies and ship you know what I'm saying. 1:39:46.120 --> 1:39:48.519 So and then and the baddest chicken on the on 1:39:48.640 --> 1:39:50.639 your block that never gave you no ask was giving 1:39:50.680 --> 1:39:54.679 out ask for nothing. That's from that changed like a dirty. 1:39:54.880 --> 1:39:57.840 There's a dirty. It's a dirty. You were describing to 1:39:57.880 --> 1:40:02.080 people with the dirtiest smoking the talk to the people. 1:40:02.479 --> 1:40:09.400 I mean, the Hayes can tell us better. That's a dirty. 1:40:09.439 --> 1:40:18.760 He just smoking. It's smoking powder, Yeah, smoking powder. We 1:40:18.920 --> 1:40:21.639 went in New York round me and powder in Miami, 1:40:22.160 --> 1:40:25.519 which smoking a dirty dirty, yes, But in New Yorker, 1:40:25.560 --> 1:40:30.280 who was weed and Cracked made my eyes bleed. See, 1:40:30.680 --> 1:40:38.719 we didn't go that's what he said. That's what facking 1:40:38.760 --> 1:40:40.639 weed made my eyes bleed. That's what he's talking about 1:40:40.680 --> 1:40:42.960 the moves because there was a whole error of that. 1:40:44.080 --> 1:40:47.160 It was a whole error, and you know it was rampid. 1:40:47.520 --> 1:40:50.799 You know. To be honest, when I was seeing everybody 1:40:50.840 --> 1:40:53.160 get high, I had to get away from that. That's 1:40:53.160 --> 1:40:55.519 why I moved up stick. That's why I moved to 1:40:55.560 --> 1:40:57.880 where I moved. I'm a corner with you up there. 1:40:57.920 --> 1:41:01.599 You you came up to the spot, you know. Um, 1:41:01.920 --> 1:41:03.920 that's why I moved. I went to get away from 1:41:03.960 --> 1:41:07.559 everybody getting high. It was like too much for me. Wow, 1:41:08.120 --> 1:41:09.840 mother focker's thought they could just come to my house, 1:41:10.840 --> 1:41:13.479 and you know, I had the studio just show up 1:41:13.880 --> 1:41:15.720 and think you're gonna come there and start getting high. 1:41:15.840 --> 1:41:17.800 So let me just describe, Let me describe this. They 1:41:17.880 --> 1:41:21.080 just get this glass fights, correct, because this has got 1:41:21.160 --> 1:41:26.599 to be looking crazy smoking crap. Yeah, I mean you're 1:41:26.600 --> 1:41:29.599 talking about hitting first. Once Crack came in, they got 1:41:29.640 --> 1:41:32.439 a little got a little crazy. Mockers just thought they 1:41:32.479 --> 1:41:34.560 could just you know, it was like it was like 1:41:34.720 --> 1:41:45.840 recreational at one point this episode st this so we 1:41:45.960 --> 1:41:48.479 still was making his and still came to bring out 1:41:48.479 --> 1:41:51.360 the sun of this bitch. What's the hint that was 1:41:51.439 --> 1:41:58.600 made crack cocaine that was around We need to know 1:41:59.560 --> 1:42:04.880 drink as we love story just saying on drugs. I 1:42:04.920 --> 1:42:07.479 could tell you one of the artists came to my house. 1:42:08.560 --> 1:42:11.920 You see so much coke. I found him in the 1:42:12.000 --> 1:42:16.920 bathroom spoil the funk out. He went to the hospital 1:42:16.960 --> 1:42:18.840 and got an operation. Not just leave it at no 1:42:18.920 --> 1:42:23.080 record was I'll leave it at that, and it's one 1:42:23.120 --> 1:42:26.360 of your favorite artists. Oh, I just leave it at 1:42:26.960 --> 1:42:29.200 wait for the movie, Wait for My bad Dad. I 1:42:32.160 --> 1:42:43.600 don't know. And that you know that famous freestyle is 1:42:44.000 --> 1:42:47.680 Kane jay Z. I think pos in it? Were you there? 1:42:47.960 --> 1:42:52.000 I'm not not that we're Brooklyn at freestyle. That was crazy. Yeah, 1:42:52.000 --> 1:42:55.080 that was crazy. Mr C. Actually he recorded that. That's 1:42:55.160 --> 1:42:58.160 his record. That's his recording. He was recorded that live, 1:42:58.360 --> 1:43:00.800 right He recorded it live and wanted to be for them. 1:43:01.360 --> 1:43:05.439 And you know that's another history making moment right there. 1:43:05.520 --> 1:43:08.519 You know, who would think that Mr C would even 1:43:08.600 --> 1:43:11.479 discover Biggie if you know what I mean. That's like 1:43:11.760 --> 1:43:14.000 that's part of the tree. Too part of your tree 1:43:14.120 --> 1:43:17.559 of course, of course, you know, and you know, Viggie 1:43:17.640 --> 1:43:21.920 was incredible. Biggie was one of the dopest, dopest rappers 1:43:22.320 --> 1:43:25.680 that could cling on a beat better than anybody. I mean, 1:43:25.800 --> 1:43:28.360 I do magic with other artists to make them be 1:43:28.439 --> 1:43:31.679 on the beat. Big shot you out, of course, of course. 1:43:31.720 --> 1:43:34.160 And I didn't know what that meant when he first 1:43:34.200 --> 1:43:37.920 did it. I didn't know that thirty years later it 1:43:37.960 --> 1:43:41.519 would still mean something to what it would mean because 1:43:41.920 --> 1:43:45.000 that put me into a whole another generation. And the 1:43:45.040 --> 1:43:48.599 record just keeps playing anyway. It's plays every day somewhere, 1:43:49.520 --> 1:43:52.280 and you know, people may not have known about my 1:43:52.680 --> 1:43:55.439 production or what I've done for hip hop, or who 1:43:55.560 --> 1:43:57.880 I brought out or who I discovered or nothing. They 1:43:58.000 --> 1:44:00.080 just know Biggie mentioned my name on the record that 1:44:00.160 --> 1:44:03.320 they keep hearing. So I didn't know the significance of that. 1:44:04.520 --> 1:44:06.360 I kind of slept on it at first. We said, 1:44:06.400 --> 1:44:08.160 should he said my name, that's cool, blah blah blah. 1:44:08.400 --> 1:44:13.400 But where he says it, Molly More, it's kind of 1:44:13.479 --> 1:44:17.160 like Jappie jap on the bridge, Jappie jap d you 1:44:17.200 --> 1:44:18.760 know what I'm saying. It's like at a Pinnacle Point, 1:44:19.240 --> 1:44:21.960 and I didn't know the significance of Biggie shouting me 1:44:22.000 --> 1:44:23.720 out on that wreck and how important it would be 1:44:24.680 --> 1:44:29.560 to me. I didn't really realize the tree that that 1:44:29.880 --> 1:44:33.840 that the connection through Mr C. Think Daddy can choose 1:44:33.880 --> 1:44:37.680 crew Biggie. Do you know what I'm saying. It's it's 1:44:37.720 --> 1:44:40.760 almost like that if I didn't meet, if I didn't 1:44:40.760 --> 1:44:43.400 meet Mr C, would there be a Biggie mm hm 1:44:45.400 --> 1:44:51.840 m m Because Mr C put Cane, came put big 1:44:53.400 --> 1:44:57.800 See what's King's d J? Yeah? Right, so then and 1:44:57.920 --> 1:45:03.720 and then that yeah, that gave you you know, that 1:45:03.840 --> 1:45:07.840 gave him cloud. So you know what they have been 1:45:07.920 --> 1:45:12.280 with We don't know. I mean, there's possibly a lot 1:45:12.320 --> 1:45:14.080 of people you don't know that got inspired off of 1:45:14.120 --> 1:45:17.439 everything you did that you may not know that direct 1:45:17.960 --> 1:45:22.920 direct a correct retreat match. Is there any artist that 1:45:23.000 --> 1:45:27.240 ever came to you that you fronted on like you 1:45:27.600 --> 1:45:29.439 didn't see that there was a star and then later 1:45:29.520 --> 1:45:31.040 on became a star and he was like, damn, I 1:45:31.120 --> 1:45:33.840 fucked up. You know what's funny and glad you say 1:45:33.880 --> 1:45:41.600 that because jay z n Jason used to be with 1:45:41.720 --> 1:45:44.880 Kane all the time, you know what I mean? So 1:45:45.400 --> 1:45:50.840 I did a remix with with um Shy and jay Z. 1:45:51.680 --> 1:45:54.680 So jay Z was up at my house right. So 1:45:55.640 --> 1:45:57.600 jay Z came into the crib just like when I 1:45:57.720 --> 1:45:59.800 you know, I thought I was my first time meeting 1:45:59.840 --> 1:46:02.720 and and I said, oh, what's up, nice to meet you. 1:46:03.280 --> 1:46:07.559 I want I wanted to go like this this is um. 1:46:08.200 --> 1:46:10.400 This is not just when it started to leave, just 1:46:10.439 --> 1:46:13.680 when it started prom I did um just just when 1:46:13.760 --> 1:46:16.080 Rocket Fell started rocking and he was able to get 1:46:16.479 --> 1:46:18.320 he was able to hire him to get on records. 1:46:18.720 --> 1:46:20.200 You know what I'm saying. It's like just just when 1:46:20.240 --> 1:46:25.560 it was coming maybe ye around that time. So he 1:46:25.680 --> 1:46:29.160 comes to the crib right, I said, so nice to 1:46:29.200 --> 1:46:30.880 meet you, by by He said, Yo, man, you met 1:46:30.920 --> 1:46:36.559 me before. Man, I've been here before. I still right 1:46:36.680 --> 1:46:40.400 here when King was doing soon so soon. So that 1:46:40.479 --> 1:46:45.120 ship sucked me up. Wow, that ship sucked me up. 1:46:45.200 --> 1:46:48.519 That came was at the creber. I mean that that. Yeah, 1:46:48.880 --> 1:46:52.200 jay Z was at the crib. We came from maybe 1:46:52.240 --> 1:46:54.400 Young Gifted the Black or something one of them joints, 1:46:55.800 --> 1:46:59.479 you know what I mean. So I would like to 1:46:59.560 --> 1:47:02.720 know he was a rapper then, but I didn't know. 1:47:04.520 --> 1:47:07.280 But that's like one of those stories like I wouldn't. 1:47:08.160 --> 1:47:11.120 I wouldn't. I wouldn't have its that bold if I 1:47:11.160 --> 1:47:14.880 knew he was a rapper. Okay, So I didn't want 1:47:14.880 --> 1:47:16.720 to ask you what's your favorite artists? Because I know 1:47:17.600 --> 1:47:20.360 I want to ask you, lose you your favorite hip 1:47:20.400 --> 1:47:28.320 hop artists? Who's your favorite hands down number one overall? 1:47:29.439 --> 1:47:33.439 If you had to pick one artist, just one, full package, 1:47:33.800 --> 1:47:39.280 full package, just one, whether it's to work with or 1:47:39.320 --> 1:47:46.240 whether it's to to listen to. Um, Yeah, let's go 1:47:46.360 --> 1:47:49.400 back to that one. I'm thinking about that little it's 1:47:49.439 --> 1:47:53.160 my all time the overall artists who got it. But 1:47:53.800 --> 1:47:56.200 I mean to be honest, opened a lot of doors 1:47:56.560 --> 1:48:00.160 for me production wise, and it was more than just 1:48:00.320 --> 1:48:02.800 making a beat for somebody to rhyme. More could have 1:48:02.880 --> 1:48:05.960 been Kane, you know, because I've seen him a form 1:48:06.040 --> 1:48:08.360 into what it was. We're just doing hardcore ship first. 1:48:08.640 --> 1:48:11.040 Then then the ladies started liking him, the female started 1:48:11.080 --> 1:48:14.280 liking him, and then it just switched. He started you know, 1:48:15.000 --> 1:48:17.479 it changed it to something different. And I said, you know, 1:48:18.040 --> 1:48:21.120 and it made me grow as a producer. But you know, 1:48:21.760 --> 1:48:25.759 came change. He changed me as a producer because before 1:48:25.840 --> 1:48:28.920 that I was just giving people whatever I want them 1:48:28.960 --> 1:48:33.160 to have with the Juice Crew here year you got 1:48:33.360 --> 1:48:35.479 that ship, Oh Chanta, you can get that. You cant 1:48:35.520 --> 1:48:38.800 have that. You got that. Kane was different. So you're 1:48:38.800 --> 1:48:41.679 saying right now, if God said, listen, Marl, you're gonna 1:48:41.680 --> 1:48:43.599 be straight for the rest of your life, you got 1:48:43.720 --> 1:48:47.760 one beat to produce for one artist. I already know 1:48:47.840 --> 1:48:49.439 what ha to be right now. Who would have to 1:48:49.479 --> 1:48:53.200 be talk lu goddamn it makes him more would like 1:48:58.240 --> 1:49:00.760 I'm saying, you know, but so gonna say, listen, this 1:49:00.840 --> 1:49:02.280 is the little last bit you can make it in 1:49:02.280 --> 1:49:03.920 the world. You're going straight for the rest of your life. 1:49:04.560 --> 1:49:09.000 But he did that already. This is it. You'll get 1:49:09.080 --> 1:49:12.120 one last That's what happened, and you will give it 1:49:12.200 --> 1:49:14.360 to you will give it to al Yeah, and that 1:49:14.800 --> 1:49:17.080 kind of happened already because I don't believe how we're 1:49:17.120 --> 1:49:20.120 living off that. Soon. You don't believe it's good. It's 1:49:20.120 --> 1:49:21.800 gonna be on the Chase. It's gonna be on Chase 1:49:21.880 --> 1:49:27.280 commercial um for the next few months. Right. But you 1:49:27.360 --> 1:49:32.439 know Deadpool too, Wow, wow, working on the soundtrack for 1:49:32.560 --> 1:49:39.160 Deadpool three. Possibly, Come on, bro, you know you believe 1:49:39.200 --> 1:49:46.080 where that that little angle got me. It's it's really different. 1:49:46.479 --> 1:49:49.800 It's beautiful thing. It's beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Hip Hop saves lives, 1:49:49.960 --> 1:49:56.680 hip Hop say his last real hip hop says, is 1:49:56.720 --> 1:50:00.280 it is there anything? Um, you will want to like 1:50:00.360 --> 1:50:03.000 you feel like you got left in the game. Um, 1:50:03.120 --> 1:50:07.080 the game could be the game in the game. For me, 1:50:07.400 --> 1:50:10.640 the game is lane. I'm doing something different, but the 1:50:10.760 --> 1:50:14.280 game is like go ahead, you know, um what I 1:50:14.320 --> 1:50:17.920 would like to do. Any music supervisors checking this out, 1:50:18.040 --> 1:50:19.719 you know, I want to I want to score movies. 1:50:20.520 --> 1:50:23.519 You know. I scored like a few scenes for Biggie's movie. 1:50:23.800 --> 1:50:26.479 But um, as you can tell, you know, they had 1:50:26.800 --> 1:50:29.160 had me and missed me. They let me actually do it. 1:50:29.520 --> 1:50:33.160 But um, even in Pops movie, I had like a 1:50:33.280 --> 1:50:35.240 scene or two that we did it for. So I 1:50:35.280 --> 1:50:39.120 would rather get into doing scenes for movies and making 1:50:39.280 --> 1:50:42.840 stuff for movies and theatrical or something like that. I mean, 1:50:42.920 --> 1:50:45.439 the music is good. I'm good with the pub pub 1:50:45.600 --> 1:50:48.360 right now. The public. The public is good, Okay, I 1:50:48.439 --> 1:50:51.240 mean the public. I mean, my earlier records don't really 1:50:51.280 --> 1:50:54.560 make pub but you know the popular ones do and 1:50:54.920 --> 1:50:58.280 it's pretty good. It's it's good. It's like we don't 1:50:58.280 --> 1:51:01.120 have four oh one K and pop. But if you 1:51:01.160 --> 1:51:06.800 got your should to be honest, publishing is that I 1:51:06.960 --> 1:51:09.160 just didn't get your ship. You could get a good 1:51:09.240 --> 1:51:12.240 record and then you you'd be surprised. Yeah, it's very 1:51:12.240 --> 1:51:16.000 because it's almost you know, it's crazy, because to be honest, 1:51:16.040 --> 1:51:17.880 if Kanye didn't do that and I didn't have pop, 1:51:18.439 --> 1:51:21.439 it would be a whole different story. If you understand 1:51:21.439 --> 1:51:25.400 what I'm saying, it's different. It's a different story. Pup 1:51:25.560 --> 1:51:28.559 is important. Anybody out there even wanted to make records, 1:51:29.000 --> 1:51:33.080 make hit records. Okay, mother, we gotta take off a shot. 1:51:33.160 --> 1:51:38.080 Tiger bonus the tradition on the show it's got sorry 1:51:38.240 --> 1:51:40.760 for like this is the second quarter we're gonna do. 1:51:40.880 --> 1:51:44.439 It's not a lot. You know. What's so terrible I've 1:51:44.479 --> 1:51:47.720 wished because Tiger doesn't not go with the one does 1:51:48.479 --> 1:51:50.920 it doesn't know anything though, It doesn't go with the 1:51:51.000 --> 1:51:54.080 one just bust it down? Were bust it? Yeah? Yeah, 1:51:54.120 --> 1:51:58.920 I appreciate yours. I think it was well overdue though, 1:51:58.920 --> 1:52:00.920 because you know, yeah, I seen a lot of you know, 1:52:00.960 --> 1:52:04.040 there's a lot of misconceptions about Molly mall out there 1:52:04.439 --> 1:52:06.639 for years, for years, I've been just letting people yap 1:52:06.760 --> 1:52:09.000 and talking. So we quite dude sitting in the back, 1:52:09.400 --> 1:52:11.519 we're just watching it. But we got was one of 1:52:11.600 --> 1:52:15.439 the misconceptions of Marty Mall that you think that happens 1:52:15.479 --> 1:52:19.920 out here. Um. One of the misconceptions, because one everybody 1:52:19.960 --> 1:52:23.720 always thought you on cold chilling. Yeah, anything that was 1:52:24.000 --> 1:52:27.200 was cold chilling, blamed like they always blame. The misconception 1:52:27.400 --> 1:52:29.559 is any artist that ever said, oh, Molly didn't make 1:52:29.600 --> 1:52:31.280 that record, and then they went on to do records 1:52:31.400 --> 1:52:33.519 later and it never sounds like what we did together. 1:52:33.880 --> 1:52:38.160 M That's all I can say. All right, so this 1:52:38.240 --> 1:53:01.679 is out of I like that. She was good. Yeah, 1:53:01.960 --> 1:53:05.040 never get used to bet yourf put the flame right here, 1:53:05.120 --> 1:53:10.280 come out. So how was it being in the game 1:53:11.080 --> 1:53:14.720 back then? You know, you guys, because the people before you, 1:53:17.320 --> 1:53:22.800 the Mellie males, the busy mens, the peers. I'm not 1:53:23.320 --> 1:53:26.040 but what you can see yourself a godfather because the 1:53:26.120 --> 1:53:33.759 father comes us said father, I've had a game changes. 1:53:34.479 --> 1:53:39.479 But that is but the pioneerzs the guys that came 1:53:39.479 --> 1:53:46.000 to America first and sloughtered the Indians. But we we 1:53:46.040 --> 1:53:48.960 didn't have to do that. They came to the architects 1:53:50.960 --> 1:53:53.840 because because like you said, like you guys were the 1:53:53.920 --> 1:53:57.519 first like um, he's uh private jets and showing like 1:53:57.560 --> 1:54:00.960 that as opposed to other people was before who was 1:54:01.040 --> 1:54:04.080 like like they didn't really they said they didn't make money, 1:54:04.960 --> 1:54:07.519 you know, and it was like this is really good though. 1:54:07.800 --> 1:54:12.640 They looked at the cause and and you know, I 1:54:12.720 --> 1:54:14.720 feel like you got your era. You guys are the 1:54:15.160 --> 1:54:18.280 architects of modern hip hop or became modern. Hi the 1:54:18.479 --> 1:54:26.439 change that's going like that because you're right, you know 1:54:26.600 --> 1:54:28.840 they ain't seen niggas at tinter Borrow on two weekends, 1:54:29.520 --> 1:54:32.080 right right, That's that's that's the real talk. That's real. 1:54:32.200 --> 1:54:34.080 And who for those wasn't y'all don't know what tinter burrows. 1:54:34.120 --> 1:54:36.720 That's the private airport. Yes you know what. It's the 1:54:36.760 --> 1:54:40.600 clear port clip board, yes, clear port. You know what 1:54:40.720 --> 1:54:44.000 I mean. So so we you know, we opened that up. Derek, 1:54:44.040 --> 1:54:45.360 I feel like you want to come over here, brother, 1:54:49.480 --> 1:54:57.800 my cousin, Dirk Deck. That's Jacks. That man. He's a legend. 1:54:57.840 --> 1:55:00.840 He's a legend, man, motherfucker. And you're a legend, law 1:55:01.840 --> 1:55:09.720 And that is what I want. When they tell you, 1:55:11.760 --> 1:55:14.880 let me just tell your mother we hear everybody to 1:55:14.920 --> 1:55:17.320 give our legends they flowers because so many people like, 1:55:17.840 --> 1:55:20.360 we want to give these people they flowers when they 1:55:20.400 --> 1:55:23.440 can smell them, they treats when they hell them, they 1:55:23.520 --> 1:55:25.160 thought so when they could think them, and their drinks 1:55:25.160 --> 1:55:27.840 where they can drink them. So many people want to 1:55:27.880 --> 1:55:30.280 celebrate a hip hop legend. I look at it. It's like, 1:55:30.720 --> 1:55:33.560 you know what, these people need their flowers while they're here. 1:55:33.720 --> 1:55:35.520 You know what I'm saying. Okay, this is the reason 1:55:35.600 --> 1:55:38.720 why people give up the love on the live. No 1:55:38.840 --> 1:55:40.520 way for me to die and say I was the greatest. 1:55:40.640 --> 1:55:43.080 Yeah yeah man. And it's your home where you're welcome 1:55:43.120 --> 1:55:49.400 and anybody doing it. I'm that's all we created this show. 1:55:50.360 --> 1:55:52.120 You come up with your movie or your book first, 1:55:52.120 --> 1:55:55.400 because I got a little confused. But I'm working on 1:55:55.480 --> 1:55:57.920 the book to become a movie. But let me just 1:55:58.000 --> 1:56:01.120 tell you it's the jew is it the Juice Crew 1:56:01.320 --> 1:56:03.880 movie that us you should come with first. I'm gonna 1:56:03.880 --> 1:56:08.160 be honest, that's ill. That's the story that the Juice Crew. Like, 1:56:08.280 --> 1:56:11.160 I'm just telling you, it's that introduces the Juice Crew 1:56:11.240 --> 1:56:16.120 movie might make more sense. I'm doing all like, like 1:56:16.320 --> 1:56:18.240 that's gonna mess with n w A because you know 1:56:18.400 --> 1:56:21.920 why everybody's still here. The movies that were the people 1:56:21.960 --> 1:56:24.120 that are still here is always gonna be the best movies. 1:56:24.200 --> 1:56:26.640 That's why I would saying, you know, you know, go 1:56:26.720 --> 1:56:29.160 to that. And then I introduced the malim just I 1:56:29.200 --> 1:56:31.520 don't know. I'm just just a real fan, like this 1:56:31.600 --> 1:56:33.880 is a real fan and the fan mode. You know 1:56:33.960 --> 1:56:35.800 what I wanted to do. I want to do my 1:56:35.960 --> 1:56:38.800 perspective of what I the way I've seen everything. But 1:56:38.960 --> 1:56:41.320 your movie could be called the Juice Crew, right, it 1:56:41.400 --> 1:56:45.920 could be you. I want my movie to be through 1:56:46.000 --> 1:56:48.800 my eyes, why everything was happening, what I was thinking, 1:56:49.080 --> 1:56:52.320 what I was seeing, what I was saying, what everything means. 1:56:52.680 --> 1:56:54.920 You think about it, You're the first riser, like the 1:56:55.000 --> 1:56:58.680 first Daddy, You're the first, you know, the first everybody 1:56:58.760 --> 1:57:02.440 who like has the first WU tank type of that ship. 1:57:02.560 --> 1:57:05.480 That ship came from you, Like, I'm proud that I'm 1:57:05.480 --> 1:57:07.520 from Queens, you know what I'm saying, because and I'm 1:57:07.560 --> 1:57:10.280 proud of that. So you gotta capture that ship. You 1:57:10.440 --> 1:57:13.000 know that Queen. I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna be honest. 1:57:13.200 --> 1:57:15.880 We're living so much of a dumb era. That. I 1:57:15.920 --> 1:57:18.160 don't know if you shouldn't drop the book first. The 1:57:18.240 --> 1:57:21.560 movie might have to come first because they thinks they 1:57:21.720 --> 1:57:26.320 read it. I'm just telling you he's thinking pros, he's thinking, 1:57:27.240 --> 1:57:30.320 he's thinking so herod out here. That's my cousins out 1:57:30.360 --> 1:57:35.920 here in cocaine on the tables like this is it. 1:57:36.440 --> 1:57:45.760 I'm getting there, my wrestler friend from from Baro. I'm 1:57:45.800 --> 1:57:48.600 just saying it's easier because he thinks dumb in this 1:57:48.760 --> 1:57:53.840 generation might be easier. I'm sorry, I love you. Get 1:57:53.920 --> 1:58:00.040 my audio voe again ready too high audioboo audiobook and 1:58:01.000 --> 1:58:03.520 give them a visual because these niggas is like they're 1:58:03.560 --> 1:58:05.120 gonna be like that. I ain't gonna I don't want 1:58:05.480 --> 1:58:07.400 a vote right now. I don't know. My thing is 1:58:07.440 --> 1:58:10.000 just dumb. The niggas that fun with me. I don't 1:58:10.040 --> 1:58:11.920 know that. I'm just throwing it out there. I don't 1:58:11.960 --> 1:58:16.080 saying it first to make sure it's it's complete, right. Yeah, 1:58:16.880 --> 1:58:20.280 it's gonna be honest. Movie, the movie gotta be. You 1:58:20.280 --> 1:58:22.200 gotta answer the show. I'll tell you gonna go right 1:58:22.280 --> 1:58:24.560 with that boy. I'm just telling you that it's easier 1:58:24.600 --> 1:58:29.120 to go. You got favorite and the youth or the 1:58:29.240 --> 1:58:32.520 niggas that funk with us, the niggas that funk with us. 1:58:32.520 --> 1:58:37.240 It's not very smart. I like them. I like, man, 1:58:37.640 --> 1:58:44.840 we're talking like you what, I know exactly who they are. 1:58:45.160 --> 1:58:48.840 I don't think going with it many. I know you. Yeah, 1:58:48.880 --> 1:58:54.800 I'm sorry. I went to ive that. So you've done everything? 1:58:55.720 --> 1:58:59.760 Uh uh? What do you think about other other producers? 1:58:59.760 --> 1:59:01.800 Like and who was the first person that you saw 1:59:02.000 --> 1:59:04.320 like that? You said, Dad, he took my blueprint, but 1:59:04.440 --> 1:59:06.080 in a good way, like you know, like like the 1:59:06.400 --> 1:59:10.960 next I say, Premier ain't premiere because he personally told me. 1:59:11.000 --> 1:59:13.200 He said, yo, nobody beats the bills. Was kind of 1:59:13.240 --> 1:59:17.200 like my blueprint because you scratched, you cut a hook 1:59:17.400 --> 1:59:22.240 from different parts. So Fresh speaks bis Monkey the Star 1:59:22.400 --> 1:59:25.760 to show he's bus mokey, so Fresh you know what 1:59:25.800 --> 1:59:28.480 I'm saying. And I took different parts and was cutting. 1:59:29.000 --> 1:59:32.040 I cut the hook and he was like, that was 1:59:32.120 --> 1:59:36.640 my blueprint. Oh now he's saying, it makes sense, you know. 1:59:36.760 --> 1:59:38.680 And then the other than that was he cut the samples, 1:59:38.720 --> 1:59:41.400 like the samples like right, he would scratch the samples 1:59:41.920 --> 1:59:44.000 to make the hook, and you know, and he said 1:59:44.040 --> 1:59:45.680 he said he first heard that or nobody beats the 1:59:45.720 --> 1:59:49.879 BIS and I'm like, Okay, that's a that's a big honor. Secondly, 1:59:50.480 --> 1:59:54.840 I would say, um, p Rock, I mean p Rock, 1:59:56.120 --> 1:59:59.480 I mean the way he took sampling on on on 1:59:59.840 --> 2:00:02.160 the your machine and equipment that he was using was incredible. 2:00:03.360 --> 2:00:05.160 And the things he was able to do off of 2:00:05.200 --> 2:00:10.120 those little five seven seconds it became incredible. By speeding 2:00:10.160 --> 2:00:12.520 the record up, putting it in fast, and then slowing 2:00:12.560 --> 2:00:15.480 it down getting more sample time. I never thought of that. 2:00:16.120 --> 2:00:19.040 That's almost as dope as Flash with the back spin 2:00:19.440 --> 2:00:23.440 on three revolutions for you know, three level revolutions forward, 2:00:23.560 --> 2:00:27.880 three level revolutions backwards. That's genus. Instead of picking the 2:00:27.960 --> 2:00:31.960 needle up and and and recording it fast and small 2:00:32.040 --> 2:00:36.880 sampling time and then slowing it down, that's genius right there. 2:00:37.320 --> 2:00:40.680 Nobody gives him his credit for that. The last record 2:00:40.760 --> 2:00:42.920 you could produce that you you could be a part 2:00:43.000 --> 2:00:45.840 of that. You you're not gonna produce. You got one 2:00:46.080 --> 2:00:53.160 producer to high hoos y mall get to do it. 2:00:53.320 --> 2:00:58.840 The last b would mix it. Kanye, I thought you 2:00:58.880 --> 2:01:04.200 were gonna say that here, man, he's dope. You know 2:01:04.280 --> 2:01:07.120 what you got? You got overlooked like the last year. 2:01:07.720 --> 2:01:12.280 That's dope. But because but but you know it's production 2:01:12.360 --> 2:01:15.880 and and what he did with sampleman and then started 2:01:15.920 --> 2:01:22.440 pitching things up and can you say, yeah, it's super. 2:01:24.240 --> 2:01:27.360 He took that ship out of this world from what 2:01:27.480 --> 2:01:29.960 I started, if you know what I mean. I brought 2:01:30.000 --> 2:01:32.160 her heir, he brought it hair. Wait what are we 2:01:32.240 --> 2:01:36.720 talking about their fluid again? In the flu so what 2:01:36.840 --> 2:01:39.320 did you just think? I'm so I didn't will be 2:01:39.440 --> 2:01:41.920 that person that makes that last final record for me 2:01:42.680 --> 2:01:45.160 if it was ever to be made, Wow, I would 2:01:45.280 --> 2:01:46.960 let let him do it and I'll mix it down. 2:01:47.120 --> 2:01:50.440 That's gonna happen now for drink champions happen, not his 2:01:50.560 --> 2:01:57.320 last wack. This and this new generation. Who is a 2:01:57.400 --> 2:02:03.760 person that you would work with a new generation the 2:02:03.840 --> 2:02:08.640 future future? Quick? I hear you with Kendricks to Ke Kendrick, 2:02:09.720 --> 2:02:13.880 Ja Cole easy to j Ken already I would lace 2:02:15.480 --> 2:02:17.880 righte at least that would be ho ship. I want 2:02:17.920 --> 2:02:27.480 to I want to do CNN David History. Yeah, yeah, 2:02:27.520 --> 2:02:29.680 you know, we gotta talk about Rker's Allen. That's what 2:02:29.760 --> 2:02:32.120 I'm saying, because um, I just want I want, I 2:02:32.160 --> 2:02:36.840 just want the fans to know. Um how much of 2:02:36.880 --> 2:02:39.280 a fan I am of you, and what you was 2:02:39.360 --> 2:02:41.720 doing is you know, he was living at a time 2:02:41.760 --> 2:02:43.920 where I could have sampled the record and I could 2:02:43.920 --> 2:02:45.960 have still paid you just from sampling the record, but 2:02:46.040 --> 2:02:48.440 I didn't want to do that. I actually wanted to 2:02:48.480 --> 2:02:51.040 go back in the studio. I wanted to recreate it, 2:02:51.120 --> 2:02:53.280 and I had g Rap. I did. We did everything. 2:02:53.400 --> 2:02:55.200 I don't remember g Rap came to the crib that 2:02:55.320 --> 2:02:58.240 day or if he came later, but I came, I 2:02:58.320 --> 2:03:01.960 went in with you. Is this h I was. We 2:03:02.080 --> 2:03:04.480 did it correctly. You know, it's so weird to me 2:03:04.560 --> 2:03:06.880 and him. We did a lot of records together, but 2:03:07.000 --> 2:03:10.960 we didn't work together a lot until then. Who you know, 2:03:11.160 --> 2:03:13.640 me and you. Okay, you get a lot of records together. 2:03:13.760 --> 2:03:16.360 Like I was like remixing this for y'all, do this, 2:03:16.520 --> 2:03:18.840 and this is me on my own right. But now 2:03:19.360 --> 2:03:21.680 he came back, He's like, yo, I got this check 2:03:21.760 --> 2:03:23.880 for you. You know, it's the crazy ship. I gotta 2:03:23.920 --> 2:03:26.320 say before I get up out of here. A lot 2:03:26.360 --> 2:03:29.080 of motherfucker's I put on. The niggas never cut me 2:03:29.160 --> 2:03:35.160 a check when they got on. Bitch, ask niggas a 2:03:35.200 --> 2:03:39.240 lot of motherfuckers I put the funk on, and you know, 2:03:39.320 --> 2:03:41.760 they got they got any position and they act like 2:03:41.880 --> 2:03:44.000 you know, the niggas never cut me a motherfucker check, 2:03:44.080 --> 2:03:51.400 so funck y'all n get love with that. He got 2:03:51.440 --> 2:03:54.920 in position that came back with the check, and I 2:03:55.000 --> 2:03:59.760 saw niggas want classic because I loved breakers. I was 2:03:59.800 --> 2:04:01.720 so much and when I went into the research and 2:04:01.760 --> 2:04:03.680 it's like, yo, it was you Andy Wrap. I wanted 2:04:03.680 --> 2:04:05.600 to be honest with you both. You know what I'm saying. 2:04:05.640 --> 2:04:07.840 So I got in a position to do do such 2:04:08.120 --> 2:04:09.400 and I wanted to do it. I wanted to do 2:04:09.440 --> 2:04:10.840 it on my own too, because a lot of times 2:04:10.880 --> 2:04:13.680 we worked before it was through trash and I wanted 2:04:13.680 --> 2:04:15.360 you to know, like I cool, it was kind of 2:04:15.440 --> 2:04:17.720 limited to Yeah, it was because he wasn't around a lot. 2:04:17.920 --> 2:04:22.320 Yeah it was around. No, no, no, no about I 2:04:22.440 --> 2:04:25.040 wasn't Yeah, I wasn't there. Yea, he wasn't. It didn't 2:04:25.040 --> 2:04:27.480 invite me to that session. I've been taking that personal 2:04:27.560 --> 2:04:32.360 for years. Don't worry about that. It's not your big 2:04:32.400 --> 2:04:33.640 thing up. You know, I love him. I speak to 2:04:33.680 --> 2:04:35.640 Compone all the time. Trash, you know what's going on, 2:04:36.120 --> 2:04:39.200 and yeah, man, I just love the history. I just 2:04:39.280 --> 2:04:41.320 love what you did tonight, man, you know, because a 2:04:41.360 --> 2:04:43.120 lot of people don't hear you talk. A lot of people, 2:04:43.600 --> 2:04:49.120 you know, I'd be silent, man, you just watching these mothers. Yeah, 2:04:49.200 --> 2:04:51.000 but we live in the day at the time. If 2:04:51.280 --> 2:04:53.960 if if you don't actually say, like, if it ain't 2:04:54.000 --> 2:04:56.120 on camera, it didn't even happen. That's why I'm head. 2:04:56.320 --> 2:04:59.600 I'm saying it ain't happen. So well, you got this platform, 2:04:59.720 --> 2:05:06.440 yes man, madness like so many people like I just 2:05:06.600 --> 2:05:08.760 I just think that that's a disrespect to our culture 2:05:08.800 --> 2:05:13.880 when people like the wine listen, listen, one is not 2:05:14.040 --> 2:05:17.400 good unless the ages. You understand what I'm saying, Like, 2:05:17.800 --> 2:05:19.880 we can make a wine right now that is gonna 2:05:19.880 --> 2:05:21.640 be full of sugar, It's gonna be full or whatever. 2:05:22.000 --> 2:05:24.760 But let let's just sit around for ten days, you know, 2:05:24.920 --> 2:05:26.720 and then do that and then you you get to 2:05:26.720 --> 2:05:29.720 see an age and there's no platform for that for 2:05:29.920 --> 2:05:33.000 our culture. So me and my my, my, my friend 2:05:33.120 --> 2:05:35.360 right here, we sat here and said, you know what, 2:05:35.640 --> 2:05:37.760 let's just and we're gonna do it like that. We 2:05:37.840 --> 2:05:40.000 want to salute our legends. We want to salute the 2:05:40.040 --> 2:05:42.520 people that who has been seasoned who's been here for 2:05:42.640 --> 2:05:45.440 twenty years and still the test of time, it's still here. 2:05:45.800 --> 2:05:50.160 And every other culture in the world salutes their legends 2:05:50.200 --> 2:05:53.080 at this time, at this point, Why the fun are 2:05:53.200 --> 2:05:58.800 we the only culture that it says, Okay, you got y'all, 2:05:58.800 --> 2:06:01.920 got y'all, you got up. You know the radio stations 2:06:01.920 --> 2:06:04.120 and all that, but this is our platform that we 2:06:04.240 --> 2:06:06.640 want to salute our motherfucker legends, you know what I'm saying, 2:06:12.760 --> 2:06:14.600 And we don't want to do it. Why they come 2:06:14.640 --> 2:06:16.760 on when people is that that's not let's do it 2:06:16.880 --> 2:06:19.800 in your face. You know that you're on the way 2:06:19.800 --> 2:06:22.360 to cats getting the casket before you telling me what 2:06:22.520 --> 2:06:25.880 it is, because you know, sometimes in life, to be honest, 2:06:26.040 --> 2:06:28.480 I'm gonna tell you what the most dishearteness thing is 2:06:28.520 --> 2:06:34.000 about the whole industry that I feel is discredit somebody. 2:06:34.200 --> 2:06:36.360 You know, you put in work, you change the game, 2:06:36.440 --> 2:06:39.360 and somebody's gonna trying to discredit what you're doing and 2:06:39.520 --> 2:06:43.960 going with it histor ahead and history around. You know, 2:06:44.400 --> 2:06:46.240 you don't be seeing you don't be seeing me on 2:06:46.520 --> 2:06:48.720 all these awards shows and all that like you should, 2:06:49.560 --> 2:06:54.440 because somewhere somebody's trying to write around me. That's why 2:06:54.560 --> 2:06:56.520 my story got to be told. That's why I appreciate 2:06:56.760 --> 2:06:59.760 you guys doing what you do, but I appreciate this platform. 2:07:00.920 --> 2:07:03.200 Know your story should be told. It has to be told. 2:07:04.040 --> 2:07:06.600 It's what I mean, Um, you know, me just even 2:07:06.640 --> 2:07:08.760 seeing that this is just a little rock said thing 2:07:09.200 --> 2:07:12.680 and then me knowing I'm just saying, uh, it's just so, 2:07:13.000 --> 2:07:15.680 it's just so much that needs to be I'm saying 2:07:15.680 --> 2:07:18.320 everything you said to me just now. I saw it visually, 2:07:18.880 --> 2:07:21.240 like I literally saw it, like when you said you're 2:07:21.320 --> 2:07:25.800 just the Queen's Bridge Department alone, just on those records, 2:07:25.920 --> 2:07:28.200 like if you're a hip hop storian, and you know 2:07:28.360 --> 2:07:31.320 those records that you just said, and you mentioned that's 2:07:31.480 --> 2:07:34.000 that alone is a movie. Bro. No, that that alone 2:07:34.160 --> 2:07:38.160 is crazy because no one would never know this. You 2:07:38.200 --> 2:07:41.840 know what I'm saying. Every everyone everyone thinks that a 2:07:42.000 --> 2:07:45.760 hit record is playing, you know, sixteen months in advance. 2:07:46.000 --> 2:07:47.640 A lot of people don't know. It's just it's the 2:07:47.720 --> 2:07:50.040 spirit of the moment of the time. And that was 2:07:50.080 --> 2:07:52.320 the testament of what you just said and the craziness. 2:07:52.560 --> 2:07:55.360 A lot of artists don't even know why they're famous, 2:07:56.760 --> 2:07:58.520 and that's the truth. They don't know why the fun 2:07:58.640 --> 2:08:00.800 they're famous. They think they put out of high record, 2:08:01.560 --> 2:08:04.680 but motherfucker used the promotion of the month and and 2:08:04.920 --> 2:08:07.480 and it clicked. People started to like it. Because the 2:08:07.560 --> 2:08:09.960 next month he wasn't the promotion of the month, somebody 2:08:10.000 --> 2:08:11.840 else was, and the next record didn't work the way 2:08:11.920 --> 2:08:14.280 that mean did. So a lot of artists don't even 2:08:14.320 --> 2:08:18.240 realize why the funk they famous, because you know how 2:08:18.280 --> 2:08:22.400 record companies work when we promote this week, but I 2:08:22.400 --> 2:08:24.560 don't give a funk with this artist guy we promoting him. 2:08:25.560 --> 2:08:27.640 And you know, a lot of people don't realize that 2:08:27.760 --> 2:08:30.480 they happen to be in that matrix at the minute, 2:08:30.560 --> 2:08:33.600 because I've seen too many superstars try to make records 2:08:33.720 --> 2:08:36.240 not in the matrix and it doesn't work. I know 2:08:36.320 --> 2:08:40.720 why exactly every record, every successful record I ever made, 2:08:40.760 --> 2:08:44.440 I know why it worked. There's certain elements you need 2:08:45.120 --> 2:08:46.600 to make it work. That's maybe that's why I won't 2:08:46.640 --> 2:08:50.600 make records now, because there's certain elements you need. And 2:08:50.720 --> 2:08:54.200 now it's algorithms right that too, but you know, a 2:08:54.280 --> 2:08:59.040 certain elements you need. You know, artists need the ability 2:08:59.120 --> 2:09:02.960 to make people want to be then unlike them. I 2:09:03.080 --> 2:09:04.960 like what he's wearing. I want to wear that. You 2:09:05.000 --> 2:09:06.960 know what I'm saying. It's not just a record no more. 2:09:07.840 --> 2:09:10.120 It's a little more to it. Anybody can make a 2:09:10.200 --> 2:09:12.720 high record, but do you have the ability to make 2:09:12.800 --> 2:09:16.360 people like you? Do you have that energy to pull 2:09:16.440 --> 2:09:19.320 him in? Even if you make wax ship? Why do 2:09:19.440 --> 2:09:23.040 people like Drake He ain't the best in the world, 2:09:23.920 --> 2:09:27.920 but he has an energy that pulls you in. Why 2:09:28.000 --> 2:09:30.640 do people like Kanye or jay Z or what whoever? 2:09:31.280 --> 2:09:33.640 It's not the music. They have an energy that pulls 2:09:33.800 --> 2:09:38.040 the people in. So it's more than the music. People 2:09:38.080 --> 2:09:41.280 got to realize that it's more than music and kind 2:09:41.320 --> 2:09:44.440 of always been more to music. Yeah, yeah, you know, 2:09:44.520 --> 2:09:46.560 if you if you that fly cat, everybody want to 2:09:46.760 --> 2:09:48.480 dress like him, look like and where what you're wear 2:09:48.640 --> 2:09:52.000 like Quam Quam wasn't the illness, but when you're seeing 2:09:52.120 --> 2:09:54.320 qualm with that poker dots, I wouldn't got a poke 2:09:54.320 --> 2:09:58.560 a dot shirt. There you go, hold on little that 2:09:58.720 --> 2:10:06.000 left right, Definitely, I have sixty one that's it. Took 2:10:06.040 --> 2:10:12.880 it off, came back so um. But basically that's what 2:10:13.000 --> 2:10:16.840 it is. You know, it's there's a magic, there's music, 2:10:17.480 --> 2:10:20.560 and there's there's also that that energy to pull people in, 2:10:21.600 --> 2:10:23.880 if you know what I mean, certain certain artists have it. 2:10:24.080 --> 2:10:27.520 Certain people have that. You know, people watch this because 2:10:27.680 --> 2:10:30.280 you have that. You know, I want to hear what 2:10:30.320 --> 2:10:32.800 the fun that, nigga? We're gonna say that. Look you 2:10:32.840 --> 2:10:34.960 know what I'm saying. I wouldn't hear that ship. So 2:10:35.240 --> 2:10:37.760 you're pulling them in, y'all pulling them in. So there's 2:10:37.760 --> 2:10:40.120 a certain energy. It's more than what you do. It's 2:10:40.160 --> 2:10:43.000 that energy to be able to pull people in, because 2:10:43.280 --> 2:10:45.000 anybody could do this. But if you don't have the 2:10:45.120 --> 2:10:49.600 energy to make people want to love, fuck you. And 2:10:49.720 --> 2:10:52.400 that's the that's the basic. That's that's just how it is. 2:10:53.680 --> 2:11:02.080 Is there anything Yeah? Is there anything you would want 2:11:02.080 --> 2:11:06.920 to do over anything? I would like to do over whatever? 2:11:07.040 --> 2:11:11.400 When I would do over anything, I would like to 2:11:11.480 --> 2:11:16.280 make kill that noise over damn? What would you do 2:11:16.400 --> 2:11:19.360 differently on that? Yeah? I probably would use different drums. 2:11:19.960 --> 2:11:21.760 I probably use the drums that we just winning on 2:11:22.600 --> 2:11:28.080 because they went with my drums the same way. So 2:11:28.160 --> 2:11:32.080 I would probably would make kill that noise with in 2:11:32.200 --> 2:11:35.800 peace the President drums the same way they did with 2:11:35.880 --> 2:11:39.080 bridges over. That's what that's what I would would do 2:11:40.040 --> 2:11:42.800 if I could turn back the hands of time. Because recently, 2:11:43.200 --> 2:11:46.240 you know, me and Shan got together. We we redid 2:11:47.440 --> 2:11:51.480 the bridge and um and um kill that noise over well, 2:11:51.680 --> 2:11:53.840 you know for movies and stuff. You know, we made 2:11:53.880 --> 2:11:56.800 new masters. We got back together. I got the original 2:11:56.880 --> 2:11:59.000 samples that I use, and we re chopped everything up 2:11:59.040 --> 2:12:01.480 and he did his vocals over wow, and and then 2:12:01.520 --> 2:12:04.840 I was sitting back, would would kill that noise? And 2:12:04.920 --> 2:12:08.880 I swipched, I switched the drums up. I put in 2:12:08.920 --> 2:12:11.720 piece to president drums and kill that noise. That ship 2:12:11.840 --> 2:12:14.000 was so motherfucking hot. I was like, yeah, this is 2:12:14.040 --> 2:12:18.200 what I should have didn't begin. But I had so 2:12:18.360 --> 2:12:20.600 much stuff that I didn't rely on my old sound 2:12:21.600 --> 2:12:24.080 like that because I was moving on. And but but 2:12:24.160 --> 2:12:26.960 I wish I would have used those drums. Don't kill 2:12:27.040 --> 2:12:30.160 that noise. Do you feel like y'all y'all lost that battle. Well, 2:12:30.720 --> 2:12:33.760 I feel that people stupid as health were believing in 2:12:33.800 --> 2:12:37.840 them because we never said that and for the record, 2:12:37.960 --> 2:12:40.640 never said hip hop. They never said that hip hop 2:12:40.680 --> 2:12:43.960 started in Queensbury. So I feel like people got bamboozo 2:12:45.480 --> 2:12:47.440 but you know, so good. So that was like the 2:12:47.520 --> 2:12:55.720 first trolling. Yeah, like the first smart on that part. Yeah, 2:12:55.840 --> 2:12:58.440 don't do that because they you know, it's it's like 2:12:58.960 --> 2:13:02.840 they preyed upon people stupidness. At that point, it looked 2:13:02.840 --> 2:13:05.480 like that if it's on record and strength, right, if 2:13:05.480 --> 2:13:07.680 they played on the stupidness of are you believing in 2:13:07.760 --> 2:13:11.880 that ship because we never said it? It's like somebody like, yo, 2:13:12.360 --> 2:13:14.520 you know, somebody like somebody said you said something. You 2:13:14.600 --> 2:13:17.360 know you ain't say it. But you know, whoever gets 2:13:17.400 --> 2:13:20.240 over in man, may people may believe that ship. But 2:13:20.640 --> 2:13:23.400 if you don't say nothing. Now where was your at 2:13:23.840 --> 2:13:27.200 where you found out? Prodigy just pass it? Oh? Man? 2:13:30.680 --> 2:13:33.400 I think I was in Japan. Uh, Yeah, I was 2:13:33.440 --> 2:13:36.160 in Japan. You know, if you know, I'll go overseas 2:13:36.160 --> 2:13:40.480 a lot um. And I always checked, you know, the internet. 2:13:40.480 --> 2:13:42.720 When I wake up and I saw it, I was like, Yo, 2:13:42.880 --> 2:13:46.520 get the funk out there because because the weirdnesses I 2:13:46.600 --> 2:13:49.680 had just hid in the work with the XPG a 2:13:49.760 --> 2:13:54.080 few days before a few days before he passed. I 2:13:54.120 --> 2:13:55.960 think the show before he went to I think he 2:13:55.960 --> 2:13:58.720 went to Vegas. That show before Vegas, he was with us, 2:13:59.000 --> 2:14:04.760 he XPG uh and and we were taking pictures laughing 2:14:05.160 --> 2:14:07.760 joking blah blah blah. And after they did that, down 2:14:07.800 --> 2:14:10.040 went to Japan and then they went to where they 2:14:10.160 --> 2:14:12.560 was gone, and then I saw it was like so 2:14:12.680 --> 2:14:14.920 crazy because we I just two pictures would do but 2:14:15.680 --> 2:14:18.600 like two days before. But it was crazy to me, 2:14:19.240 --> 2:14:24.840 that was crazy, and I felt that he won't be 2:14:24.920 --> 2:14:29.560 the last one. That's more, you know, you know, it's 2:14:29.560 --> 2:14:32.160 there's more. People are gonna pass. We don't live forever. 2:14:33.360 --> 2:14:37.200 And you know the good thing about you know, hip 2:14:37.240 --> 2:14:39.720 hop and being an artist, it's whatever you do when 2:14:39.760 --> 2:14:43.840 you're alive, it lives longer than you You know, we 2:14:43.960 --> 2:14:46.160 won't be here no more. When people still be playing 2:14:46.200 --> 2:14:50.320 our music, still talking. You know, we're still live after 2:14:50.440 --> 2:14:53.000 we're not here. And that's the one of the benefits 2:14:53.040 --> 2:14:56.000 of being an artist. And you know, it was kind 2:14:56.040 --> 2:14:59.560 of sad because because I just was with dude, I 2:14:59.680 --> 2:15:03.880 just win, just just was with him like two days 2:15:04.360 --> 2:15:10.280 before everything happened. God bless him, God bless him family. 2:15:10.920 --> 2:15:19.080 That's the Peace Prodigy. Yes, we still keep making them beats. 2:15:19.160 --> 2:15:22.120 We need you out here for Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, man, 2:15:22.280 --> 2:15:24.040 you know we don't let it, don't let it slow 2:15:24.080 --> 2:15:27.000 you down. You know what I mean when um, now 2:15:27.040 --> 2:15:30.880 as did the bridges over the bridge, I'm not over 2:15:30.920 --> 2:15:36.280 skipped to the bridge? Uh? What was it? He had 2:15:36.360 --> 2:15:38.760 put all the artists from Queen's Bridge on there? Okay 2:15:39.160 --> 2:15:42.040 remember that? Did uh? Did you do to be or no? 2:15:42.280 --> 2:15:45.640 He just sampled it? Um? I think was it l 2:15:45.680 --> 2:15:47.920 E s? I think maybe somebody else made the beat. 2:15:47.960 --> 2:15:50.320 But I was on the record. I was on the intro. Okay, cool, 2:15:50.400 --> 2:15:52.560 that's what happened. I was. I was part of that, right, 2:15:52.600 --> 2:15:54.600 I was part of ms been looking out, I got 2:15:54.640 --> 2:15:56.640 in front. But you know what I mean, we're from 2:15:56.720 --> 2:15:59.000 two different errors. But you know he always look out, 2:15:59.680 --> 2:16:01.680 you know what saying? Always and you always show love 2:16:02.160 --> 2:16:04.680 every time I see him, So you know, you know, 2:16:04.800 --> 2:16:07.840 like I said, when the torch was passed, they did 2:16:07.880 --> 2:16:10.920 a great job with it. What I'm saying beautiful with 2:16:11.000 --> 2:16:13.240 the music business. With me, I'm not thinking about it. 2:16:14.120 --> 2:16:17.760 I'm on. I'm on technology right now. I got technology 2:16:17.800 --> 2:16:20.000 that's going to change the world. What you mean, come 2:16:20.040 --> 2:16:25.240 on talking changed the world that Steve Joy thinking about? Yet? 2:16:25.680 --> 2:16:30.440 You know man, that of the average with music in life. 2:16:31.240 --> 2:16:36.280 H m h, I got the answer. Cat, you have 2:16:36.400 --> 2:16:43.119 some information? Yeah, yeah, panted, but you know we're working 2:16:43.160 --> 2:16:45.520 on some technology right now. Well do your thing, man, 2:16:45.680 --> 2:16:48.120 do the thing. I can think about putting hip hop 2:16:48.200 --> 2:16:52.160 and it goddamn machine and changed to change hip hop. 2:16:52.440 --> 2:16:54.320 I could do a lot of other things. Well, hell 2:16:54.400 --> 2:16:57.200 you you know what I'm saying. Hell yeah. See me personally, man, 2:16:57.280 --> 2:16:59.520 you know I'm on the quest to have hip hop 2:16:59.600 --> 2:17:03.199 control all aspects of media. Like to me, I don't 2:17:03.280 --> 2:17:05.720 think that if we should wake up in the morning 2:17:06.080 --> 2:17:08.160 and we want to watch a sports show, I think 2:17:08.200 --> 2:17:11.160 that sports shows to be hosted by Jada Kiss. I 2:17:11.240 --> 2:17:13.680 think whenever we want to go watch a weather show, 2:17:14.160 --> 2:17:17.440 that ship should be hosted by Kim Jones. That's what 2:17:17.560 --> 2:17:19.480 I think. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, so 2:17:20.000 --> 2:17:21.880 I want to That's why I'm doing this because I 2:17:21.959 --> 2:17:24.640 just feel like hip hop it's about time we control 2:17:24.680 --> 2:17:26.959 all media. And what I mean by that because hip 2:17:27.000 --> 2:17:29.879 hop is his own race. It's not I ain't talking 2:17:29.959 --> 2:17:32.320 the black white I'm talking about hip hop and hip hop. 2:17:32.640 --> 2:17:34.160 So this is the reason why we're doing you know 2:17:34.200 --> 2:17:36.560 what I mean, And we're haven't a goddamn fun doing it. 2:17:37.000 --> 2:17:39.560 We want to respect people like you and continue to 2:17:39.640 --> 2:17:41.920 respect people like you let you know you got this outlet. 2:17:42.200 --> 2:17:44.480 It's why the funk open and this is drink chance, 2:17:44.520 --> 2:17:52.080 motherfucking pop. I feel like you got. I feel like 2:17:52.120 --> 2:17:54.480 you got one more thing you want to say. If 2:17:54.520 --> 2:17:56.120 anybody want to get in talk with me, that's um 2:17:56.280 --> 2:18:00.320 at Molly skills okay on Instagram, Okay, DJ all him 2:18:00.360 --> 2:18:02.120 all and you know Facebook stuff. You know if I 2:18:02.200 --> 2:18:04.560 have all these skills on Instagram and and Twitter, you 2:18:04.600 --> 2:18:06.720 know what I mean? That your boy ship, you know 2:18:06.760 --> 2:18:09.240 what I'm saying. And he investors that want to get 2:18:09.480 --> 2:18:11.240 some real money get at me because I got that 2:18:11.320 --> 2:18:17.000 technology for that ass absolutely sign that um nondisclosure. You 2:18:17.080 --> 2:18:19.360 know we're up on that, but you know we're there. 2:18:19.800 --> 2:18:22.160 That's what I do, man. The music, the music thing 2:18:22.240 --> 2:18:24.360 is gonna be what it's gonna be. Let these young 2:18:24.440 --> 2:18:26.560 kids do what the funk they want to do, because 2:18:27.680 --> 2:18:30.720 that's how I feel, to nothing, to doing nothing, to 2:18:30.720 --> 2:18:32.560 do what the funk they want to do, because it's 2:18:32.560 --> 2:18:35.760 only evolution, you know what I mean. And let's have 2:18:35.800 --> 2:18:38.560 a good day, that's all it is, and think freely. 2:18:38.680 --> 2:19:07.680 That's real talk to drop from yeah s