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Speaker 1: You know, we used to have the little eight to

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Speaker 1: a drum machine and this is you know, this is before.

427
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: This is before Luke Scott Walker was doing um like

428
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: two Live Crew. This one he was like he had

429
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: the djst style DJs back in the marriage to that

430
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: was there was book Lie but the timeline don't know

431
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: if you you know what. So I came out with

432
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: an eight away and we had we put it on

433
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: some base because he used to have the girl style DJs.

434
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: He used to have a crazy system sounds. It was

435
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: so you you know that they used to have like

436
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: a warehouse was like a like a idea. It's like, look,

437
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: look before your famous. They used to throw these parties

438
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: girl style DJs and it was like big supermarkets, but

439
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: it was a club and they had these big, huge

440
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: sound systems, speakers as told you could see. So you know,

441
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: one day I went out there with my eight a weight.

442
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: She used to do her freestyle and you know, time

443
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: can't lie, Timeline can't lie people, do you straight up?

444
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: So I came out here with the eight o eight

445
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: put that ship on boom. Motherfucker's was like what the

446
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: everybody read it and look because he had the big system. Hey,

447
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: I'll come with an eight a week next thing. You know,

448
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: a few years later Miami got Base, so you know

449
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: I could I could have been when I brought the

450
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: base in Miami with the awight with back in the day,

451
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: because everybody ran to look and see what the hell

452
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: I was doing because they were just playing the records

453
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: they were. You came and played original records that played

454
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: the eight. You know, I brought the eight away drummers

455
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: drum Machine actually did it right there, plugged it into

456
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: their system and she was doing a freestyle and everybody's like,

457
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: what the fund is that? Oh ship? So how did

458
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: you meet bis Markey? Bisin? That's he was another person

459
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: that came out to Queensbridge to meet me, okay, and

460
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: so he hung out there for about a week and

461
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: Queen's h He just was hanging out. He was on

462
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: like you know, business was like, hey, well, youn't even

463
00:24:51,080 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: corded him, you did. Nobody beats the BIS. If I

464
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: gotta buy this apartment, somebody out what I'm saying. So yeah,

465
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: so he came in. He was like like that girl,

466
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: but he came out to the Queen. He came out

467
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: to the Queen's Bridge. But he was like a guy

468
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: hanging out. So he hung out on a twelve street. Yo,

469
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: were good. So you're hanging with them for a few

470
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: days that he go on this block. You're hanging with them,

471
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: just staying on the block overnight whatever. Next thing, you know,

472
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: like about the fourth day or fifth day, somebody said, yo,

473
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: nig in the hall with beatboxing, and I was like, yeah,

474
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: I want to hand no feedbox ass nigger right now.

475
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: Buffy's out dusk. Everybody you know, like it ain't a

476
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: room for that right now. It's like, yo, buddy nice.

477
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let me go see him

478
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: as soon that Ni could come in my house to mom.

479
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: He made a quick demo the next you know, that

480
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: very next day, which was make the music now now

481
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: now because Bis, like I always say I want to

482
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: play Bis in a movie, right, you know what I'm saying,

483
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: because he could he frum comedy like that's that's something

484
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: that I like, I admire about hip hop. I just

485
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: always felt like hip hop was so serious, like all

486
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: my videos are always like trying to do some type

487
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: of comedic did how did you know that about this?

488
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: Like did you or did you even know that? You

489
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: knew that? I recognized that when I saw him on

490
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: stage because he used to you know, when he once

491
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: he started working with Shant and they started doing little routines,

492
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: and I started saying, seeing he kind of nice, but

493
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: he he ain't rough like everybody else be working with

494
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: g Rapp, you know, g Rapper carry with the lyrics

495
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: back in them days, and even Shan was nice. Shan

496
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: was kind of nice back in the day, if you

497
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So when Bis came this, he

498
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: had some fun. He like saying he was always joking

499
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: in the studio, so his rhymes we kind of never

500
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: took serious because he's kind of joking and laughing and

501
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: all that, and you know, so he started bringing the

502
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: comedic side out of us. So because because Kane wrote

503
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: nobody be the business. No, it was business. Um wait

504
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: for my movie and see like, yeah you know that,

505
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: so you because I do have the original demo somebody

506
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: else did years wait for the movie and see wow,

507
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: that's that's that's to be right about that. Actually, drink holly,

508
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: but throw it out there, my brother, you gotta have

509
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: a drink with us, a brother, come on, come on,

510
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: all right? So what else was it recorded in the

511
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: bridge before we move on? Of course? Of course the

512
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: bridge record was of course you know that Molly scratch

513
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: was recorded in the bridge. You know, of course we

514
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: know everybody's president. And my melody was made there, um

515
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: roxy and chante. The earlier, my earlier take it off

516
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: by spoon EG was made there. I made that there, yeah,

517
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: take it off by spoony G and what else? So

518
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: so those are yea my earlier records. How are you

519
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: guys recording the vocals? I had a four track with

520
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: with with a bullshit mike, with no a real four

521
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: track with the real Yeah. First, my Morley's Crash was

522
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: a four track of set. Because you know, I was

523
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: already sampling, I alread, knew how the sample, so I

524
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: was beating people already. I could add a two track

525
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: and still beat people because I was sampling and taking

526
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: the breaks. Nobody knew what the funk I was doing.

527
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: Did you? Did you you started sampling um for for

528
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: hip hop breaks? Um? I don't know if I if

529
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: I did or not. But I made that ship fun.

530
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: You know because my brother and the you know, the

531
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: High Fidelity crew from Queensbridge, they used to play a

532
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: lot of breaks. So far I was a DJ, so

533
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: I had access to the ship because my brother was

534
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: one of the DJs. We went to the service I

535
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: had that's to all the ship they was playing. So

536
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, nobody used to Busin Beat was one of

537
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: the records that they used to rock as a breakbeat.

538
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: You give what I'm saying, fly like an eagle. That's

539
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: from that ship, you know what I'm saying. So I

540
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: would take elements from my brother and them records and

541
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, make me seem older because it was shipped

542
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: that they used to rock before I was I was

543
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: able to get on. At what point is Jewice Crew

544
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: getting created all this? Now? Jewice Crew, you gotta think,

545
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: sir Juice is Mr Magic? A lot of people run

546
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: up to me and say Mr Magic, mally mall, but

547
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: they called me Mr Magic Molly Mall. That's two people.

548
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know. Mr Magic was the

549
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: first rap the first person to play rap period on

550
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: the radio and bring it and bring it mainstream compilations.

551
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: They used to come out right. He used to be

552
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: on late night, you know, playing the rap music, you

553
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: know when nobody was even caring about it, you know

554
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: what I mean. So he was the first rap DJ.

555
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: When he went to BLS, that's when I got with him.

556
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: I became an engineer all start May Marl with the

557
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: mixing gloves that I never wore. So, um, how did

558
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: you a sh Shannon is from the Bridge obviously shan

559
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: um chance actually from Brooklyn? What chance from? You are

560
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: killing my childhood? No chance from left Left fits left

561
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: Fits Boulevard or Leftts Avenue and in Brooklyn. But his

562
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: mom's his mom's father was was Graham's. You're gonna go

563
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people's childhood. But no, no, no, but

564
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: that his grandfather lived in QB. So he's the frequent

565
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: and that thing started getting famous. He still started staying

566
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: with his grandfather. But you know, his first contract that

567
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: I got just says left fits Left its boulevard wow

568
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn's Oh goddamn, Oh my god, I tell you

569
00:30:54,920 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: this may be the most important. I would have never

570
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: thought that. I would have never thought you would have

571
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: said that just for bick up pick up, bick up

572
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: ship happen. He did did red for the hood. You know,

573
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: you know he got our story told. So how does

574
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: that happen? Because this is this is a legendary record,

575
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: This is the this is the whenever you Queensbridge, they're

576
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 1: gonna play this record. What I'm saying, Bridge, you got

577
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: you got telling the story about naas they tell a

578
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: story about Mark. That's the first record they're gonna go to.

579
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: So how does this come about? Do you know you're

580
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: gonna make the anthem for your hood? For thirty fucking

581
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: years and not checked this out? It wasn't supposed to

582
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: be a record, Like I said, Nothing that I made

583
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a record for you to play.

584
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be intermission music for Queensbridge day

585
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: in the park that I could play in between the bands.

586
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: What so that was like that was like a Queen's

587
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: Bridge intermission record for us only. So I played it

588
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: in the park and I believe that, yes, somebody got

589
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: killed too. God bless the rest to day. I guess

590
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: little Hose eight from TENN Street, right, he got he got,

591
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: he got hit. But that's what it was. It was

592
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: intermission music, okay for in between because the bands was hot.

593
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: We wasn't nothing. The bands was the ship. Every the

594
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: record comes out. So what happens after the record is made?

595
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: Do you know? That's what I'm saying. You and she

596
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: ain't looking at each other like we got the anthem

597
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: for the Hood say, it's just the intermission, just intermissive intermission.

598
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: So and so we made it two years before the

599
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: public heard it. It was already floating around the Hood heavy.

600
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: My nephew leaked it out Fredo who leaked it out

601
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: to the Hood, and then like everybody had the tape.

602
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: I was like, damn. And then you know lawrenceon and

603
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: was doing beat biter. Uh. You know that's when Shamon's

604
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: going that LNG is like, yo, put that on, you

605
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: know from Philly, put that jump, Put that Joan on

606
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: the B side. Man, there ain't no record. That's some

607
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: ship we made in the house for Queen'sband's Day. What

608
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: you're talking about now? I put on the B side.

609
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, let's let it go. It's already

610
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: leaked out in the hood. Next thing you know, me

611
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: and Shan started doing crazy shows. You can you know,

612
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, you know the reaction you get a hot joint.

613
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: Next thing you know, your show appeal start going up.

614
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: And that's why I knew that work. We started getting

615
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: crazy shows. So then you what do you what comes

616
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: out after this? Um, the Bridges Over or the South Bronx.

617
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: South Bronx came out. South Bronx came out because Magic

618
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: c Carross. One of them was that Power Play while

619
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: we I was recording Power Playing Queen. Yeah, that's where

620
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: they made Bridges Over. They made that ship in power

621
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 1: playoff you want to talk about in the Beatles, they

622
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: the Bridges over. They let me explain. Let's explain that

623
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: now were using the studio doing bite this. Okay, we

624
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: don't about South Bronx. We're talking about the Bridges Over. Right.

625
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: When we're talking about we're talking were gone now places

626
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: play studio right, Okay, I'm in I'm in the A

627
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: roomps in the b room. There was they was but

628
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: but checking because they wasn't even knowing nothing yet. The

629
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: just and they're making demos just putting their money up,

630
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: going in the lab getting me together. Now we we're

631
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: in the studio. You know, scotlar Rock comes in the room.

632
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: You know, Mr Magic please to meet you. Thank you,

633
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, bah blah blah. Could you please come in

634
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: our room and listen to our ship and tell us

635
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: what you think? So you know, in my magic I'll

636
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: be in there later. Mr Magic was very unruly. He was.

637
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: He was really me and the motherfuckers. You know, God blesses,

638
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, God blesses, godless so but you know he was.

639
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: He was one of them dudes that he was like, yeah,

640
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: if he didn't like you to tell you, oh, man,

641
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: what the fund is wrong with your head cutting? He's

642
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: like that, okay, okay, by the way, you did say

643
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: that the king. That's why the head went up. And

644
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: now now Mr Magic and your molly, now this is

645
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just magic engineer, Dji. You gotta be

646
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: about it could be about seventeen eighteen or some ship.

647
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm mad, mad skinny because I didn't make money yet,

648
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. So I'm like anorexic. He's like,

649
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: you'll come with me, man in the room and listen

650
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: to the I was like, all right, bet let's go.

651
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: So now we're going the room. They put off some song.

652
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: They all going, they're jumping on crazy around the room.

653
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: Mr Magic looking around, he just goes over to the volume.

654
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: Now I'm turning that ship down now you know how

655
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: it is in the studio, and just get silent. He

656
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: looked there and said, Yo, that she is bullshite. And

657
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: because the whole cruise like a whole room full of motherfucker's,

658
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: it was just me and Magic and then they could

659
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: have just started squaring off if it was real like that,

660
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: but I guess it wasn't because that was a square

661
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: off moments it was. It was real disrespectful, Yo, that's bullshit.

662
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, you wan't real hip hop. Mc shan

663
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: rock Sant Molly Maul, Mr Magic, Mick, get the funk

664
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: out of He just bumped out the room on these niggas.

665
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: What did you think of the record? Though? It wasn't

666
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't what they It didn't It didn't have the

667
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: energy of what we made them come out with. It

668
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: was in South Bronx, if you know what I mean.

669
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: It wasn't nothing like the album They regrouped the ship.

670
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: They didn't play South Brons. That wasn't the record. No,

671
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: they ever come out. So you guys just magic nothing

672
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: that Mr Magic is from Brooklyn. I thought Brooklyn. He

673
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: moved to the Bronx. Okay, okay, okay. But then after

674
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: that that put that you know that ship now heat

675
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: this stuff like that. So everybody he said, and they

676
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: face they put on the record, m Rox and Shanta

677
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: is good for Mr. You know what I'm saying. Everybody

678
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: who he's putting their face, they might have made that

679
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: record that night. They could have got the fuel that

680
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: night they make it. Niggas got the bridge outman funk

681
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: that South bron So you know that could have fueled that.

682
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: But next thing I know, I heard South Bronx and

683
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, to be honest, I was like, Yo,

684
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: niggas ain't gonna believe these niggas, man, fuck them niggas.

685
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: That's that's how I felt about that first, Like nobody's

686
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: gonna leave the niggas man, because you know, number one,

687
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: we ain't say that. I don't think people was that

688
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: dumb kind of to believe that ship to believe what

689
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: that that that he said that we said the hip

690
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: hop started in Queen's Bridge, but we didn't say that ship.

691
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think we didn't even say that. I

692
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: like when people smarter than that, they ain't gonna believe

693
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: that dumb ship because we never said that. Who's gonna

694
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: believe this dude. The next thing, you know, that ship

695
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: became a hit. I'm like, that made me think that

696
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: damn that niggas is like kind of slow, especially at

697
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: that time. I made me really think that. I was like, Yo, yeah,

698
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's all good because you know,

699
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: we need to teach you in hip hop was history

700
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: and I'm glad we made history. But in the beginning,

701
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't think nobody was gonna believe

702
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: that ship because we never said that. And so so

703
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Shan like, Yo, let's let's go back in the lab

704
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: and let's go make um kill that, you know, which

705
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: I believe should have been like a three verse record

706
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: or maybe two verses because it's first two verses out

707
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: in the track is the track was kind of dope.

708
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: Then they came back with the bridges over which you know,

709
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: it's just crazy. What's crazy? And so that day we

710
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: rushed at the studio, magic distem. I leave my drum reel,

711
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: My my my magical drum reel that made Eric Reas president,

712
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: that made nobody beat the bills, that made me go ship.

713
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: They take the box, they shake the drum reel, and

714
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: that's the drum drum bridges over because you stop one

715
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: number on the seats. Well, they took my drum, saying yeah,

716
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: that's why that is so Fun's like, it's my that's

717
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: my That's why they collin and say, yo, we took

718
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: it from Eric Begs president. That's my ship. That's why

719
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: I said, so motherfucking funky. I don't think carris One

720
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: told us that part. Now. I don't think that's gonna

721
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: be the most important. I don't even tell y'all some more.

722
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: I think he like the book drinking you left that.

723
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: So so the bridges over actually comes out, you said

724
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: you don't believe it. But what was what was like

725
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: the biggest blacklash for that, Like was it a moment

726
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: where you where you felt uncomfortable, like because serious I

727
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: wasn't working with them change when did chores with them

728
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: and make commercials and all that. I was not later

729
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: during that time period. That was a little after because

730
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: remember they had a sprite commercial actually have been a

731
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: sprite commercial. I was like, no, I ain't working with that, man,

732
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: y'all go get that, y'all go do that, because you know,

733
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I wasn't working with them for for

734
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: years and years. I ain't. I ain't work with all that.

735
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't. I wouldn't start producing g

736
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: Rap to get what I'm saying, g Rap and King,

737
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: I just went to the next, next, next level ship.

738
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: But you know, I never I never want to make

739
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: money with it. I was like, man, go ahead with

740
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: it that. I don't want to be no commercials, none

741
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: of that bulls. What was it a time where you you,

742
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: you like, felt shaky because you know, like when a

743
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: person they like most of the times when you have

744
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: good battles, like real good battles, they'll say that once

745
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: a person leave, the other guys finished. Like it was

746
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: at a time you felt like that because of that

747
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: record or though nah, I felt that I had more

748
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: in the bag because he was producing. I was like

749
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: I had more in the bag. You know, I was

750
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: already working with g Rapp already he was like on

751
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: the low. We probably had a demo already, if you

752
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I was already on on,

753
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: you know, and then King was hanging around, you know

754
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was like on the next

755
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: phase already. So I let let that one, Let that

756
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: one go to where it was going. How are you

757
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: now with care? We made that album when it was

758
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: a big, biggest selling that we made Hip Poplars. It's

759
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: one of the biggest sellers. That's one of his biggest sellers.

760
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: You know, that was years after because I only did

761
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: that because I I read his bio because for years

762
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, I forgot about these nicks in

763
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: the studio that day, that Magic you know what I'm saying,

764
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: He used to this the main people. It was like

765
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: this so so regular. I don't remember the disease niggas

766
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: at power Play for we got read his bio and

767
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: it said it in his bio Mr. Magic power Play,

768
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, remember that day. So for years,

769
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: all of the years, I didn't know why they were

770
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: so mad at us. I was like, you think it's

771
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: mad at us man, we're killing ship out here, but yeah,

772
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: we're changing the game. You're mad at you know what?

773
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so I never sucked with them what they're

774
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: mad at. We were slaying the game. You get what

775
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I never understood so once I saw

776
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: that years later, oh that was them dudes. Now it

777
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: all makes sense. I saw Chris one day, I was like, yo, Chris,

778
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know you then that time in the studio

779
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: me and started laughing about it. I said, yo, man,

780
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: we should do something. And then we worked around and

781
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, did that album. But that's how that all happened.

782
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: But you know, I wasn't working with none of that

783
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: ship back in it. I took it very serious. I

784
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: took that ship verning verning bull of our serious. What

785
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: was it the room was that just Ice came to

786
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: Queensbridge one day. I don't know, okay, I don't know

787
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: anybody could come to Queensbridge come about in the morning

788
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: time ten am, yeah yeah, yea, yeah yeah yeah yeah

789
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. You know, you know, nobody's gonna go starting

790
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: because I always thought that the beef was like respected,

791
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: like I always thought like like like like she had

792
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: new what it was and care rest knew what it was.

793
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: So they said it. That's how it ended up. That's

794
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: how it ended up. But because they started doing shows together,

795
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: they started doing the commercials and doing a lot of stuff.

796
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: But to get it, it was none of that. Um No,

797
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't working with it. But I never sucked with

798
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: it at all. I never you think you think it

799
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: would you would have like it would have been violence

800
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: if you would have like Queens. Yeah, you know what

801
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's crazy. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad.

802
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: We gotta. I don't think we watching over Juice Crew

803
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: like like like the like the Marvel Comics of hip hop.

804
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: I think Juice Crew was like like like like the

805
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: epitome of like with the firm was supposed to be

806
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: and like these other like certain things it is supposed

807
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: to be. Uh, But the Juice Crew was the first.

808
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Was definitely the crew blue print. It was a blueprint

809
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: for what was next to come. Even Coach Chilling was

810
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: a blueprint for like bad Boy and Cash. And I

811
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: didn't own Coach Chill and I was a staff that

812
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: was an owner coll I was a staff producer. I

813
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: always took you old. Let me tell you what my

814
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: first my first job of Coach Chilling, I was a

815
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: staff producer so they would have I will pop up

816
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: with the artists and go in the studio. I was

817
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: making sixty five thousand a year the first first year.

818
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: Then when we got with Warner Bros. Started making two

819
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: hundred thousand hours a year. But I still lived in

820
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: the Queensbridge making two two hundred thousand dollars a year

821
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: and my rent was like a hundred fifty dollars. I

822
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: had to get I had to get the funk. I

823
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: had to get the bad man. I paid the rent

824
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: for like twenty years and she so um. You started

825
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: working after Sha, after Sean Tate. Is that when Big

826
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: Daddy came come to the rap Rap co Gi rat

827
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: rappers from Corona Corona slash left right and need the

828
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: left rock a little while I'm big, I'm gonna big

829
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: it up in my building. I think I believe right. Yeah.

830
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: Ce Polo used to go to school with me. I

831
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: go the wild ass schools because I never When I

832
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: was in school, they kicked me out of every school

833
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: period because I was, you know, robbing everybody. You would

834
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: never think that, but I was the nigga robbing niggas

835
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: you know I was. I was so nice I could

836
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: go in the closet in school and go up in

837
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: the event and come down to another classroom and go

838
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: through their pocket. I was nice with it, spider Man,

839
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: Spider Man, what I'm saying, I told you the MARLP.

840
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: So so from that, they kicked me at at like

841
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: regular schools. In like fifth grade, I had to go

842
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: to like six hundred schools. It's like junior jail type

843
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: rich Wood. I went to school. I went to PS four.

844
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: You know, there's nobody alive from that school where nobody's alive,

845
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: damn there. But um, you know, and I went there

846
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: and you know, and I met Polo. Polo was in

847
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: my class. So you know, after I got famous, me

848
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: and Polo stayed cool and I was like, yo, man

849
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: make a group or something. Man through something and get

850
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: a wrapper. And I told him, get a rapper, you know,

851
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: I I rock with you, Shi, And he had his

852
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: new dude, the Frosty Freeze. First, that was his first rapper.

853
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: They made a record called Polo Polo whatever, and then

854
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: you know it was whatever. He went to jail. He's

855
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: still in jail to this day. I did. But but

856
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: then he got g rap up do dude was you know.

857
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: Then that's when the whole my whole production started changing

858
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: because g Rapp now g Rappers on some different ship.

859
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: That's when I started, you know, sampling up the it's

860
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: a demo ship, the drumming ship before everybody, because you know,

861
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: he was on that gangster ship early, I mean early

862
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: before I've ever heard it anywhere else. I wasn't always

863
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: hearing g Rapper telling little gangster stories and street stories

864
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: and ship. So that's where you know, I was tarking

865
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: with him. And then and then then we moved moved up.

866
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: From then we started, you know, bis then we started

867
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: doing um, you know Kane Kane. What came was this

868
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: is this hoo flat top gules and eight nine came

869
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: this Who's after not someone talking about he's talking about

870
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: he's business writer and I didn't believe him. Kane talking

871
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: about went to fast. He first in the afro. He

872
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: didn't have the high top figure. Okay, so queeze breast

873
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: down and I just want to move to the story. Okay, okay,

874
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: started you move people to the story. You just moved

875
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: right on the block. I mean the story. I'll tell

876
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: you a funny story. But I got my first got somebody.

877
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: I moved right to conroll I the same exact things

878
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: and townhouse. Yeah, I think it's like, think I can

879
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: still see you there. What do you mean it was

880
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: a town Oh you have the town. You have a

881
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: town looked like a townhouse. It was just still a

882
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: regular forment. So you moved to a story. Yeah. And

883
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: now now now business ly, some some Afro looking stick

884
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: up nigga knocking on my door talking about yo, I

885
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: write for bids. I'm like, you know, the burner right here,

886
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: man got the door halfway open and ship. I'm like,

887
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: if you write for them, tell me something that didn't

888
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: come out yet, and he told me one of the

889
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: round was opened the door, come in and ship. Yeah,

890
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: I write for bids. And he's late. I'll had this

891
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: for him for today. So we're sitting there. He's like, yo,

892
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, I want to see our sound on tape.

893
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: Because he wasn't trying to be I mean, like you

894
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: just want to be right. He was. He was a

895
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: rapper already. He was dope, but he wasn't really flexing

896
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: to us that he was a rapper because their whole

897
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: thing was let bids get on first, and he's gonna

898
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: open the door for everybody. You know what I'm saying.

899
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: So he was, you know, he just wasn't doing protocol

900
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: and he's like, yo, you know, yeah, you know, but

901
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: but he was in the room, in the room and

902
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, you know, I always want to see

903
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: our sound on this joint. He said, you know, I'll

904
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: take you there. And I whipped it up real quick.

905
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the first, the first recording I

906
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: haven't made with him. While we was waiting for bids,

907
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: you may, I'll take you there, his first, his first record. Ah,

908
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: and you know, and I went to the record company like, yo,

909
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: business writer, is this ship he needs to come out.

910
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: They're like, no, man, he's the writer. They was, they

911
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: was trying to front back Seat King. Yeah, they're trying

912
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: to front at first, Like so you know what I

913
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: would do with Kane just record ship around everybody because

914
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: coming to the studio when so and so it's gonna

915
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: show up, you can't come to the lab blah blah.

916
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: So we started doing his album kind of behind the scenes.

917
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: But the first the record company they fronted on Kane,

918
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: they say, that's business writer, you ain't no rapper. But

919
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: they didn't hear him. I did. I'm like you know

920
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: that nigga nice, that nigga, that nigga nice enough to

921
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: come back later and change the motherfucking games. So so

922
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: so you but he's not so he's coming up. So

923
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: when was it with the Afro with the Africa and

924
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: you told him, you said Magic told him. Magic was like, Yo,

925
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: you ain't getting on stage represent for us with your

926
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: head like that ship. You ain't getting on stage represented

927
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: Juice Coup with your ship like that. And then I

928
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: think that's when that Hot Top Faith pop back with

929
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: the Hot Top Faith. So you got to see k

930
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: go from like come up, we know that to to

931
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: because at one point Kme was like like jay Z,

932
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: like of now time, how did you? How did how

933
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: did that feel like? Getting to see that process? Um,

934
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: it was really good because at that point that's when

935
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: Kane changed rap. After Rule Rapp was never to sell

936
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: him again. It was never the same to break that

937
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: down for us, you know because before Rual, before I

938
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: made that record Rule with Big Daddy Can, everybody was

939
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: whopping the can. You know all the records, records, you

940
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: couldn't walk to roar. That was that ship that made

941
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: your face got who the funk is that? After that

942
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: for two years straight. Ror had to be the last

943
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: record played in the club, in the club at the

944
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: end of the night, because you can't play nothing after

945
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: it was so dope. People had to catch up to that,

946
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. So when rock Kim first

947
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: came to my house, you know Rock Kim, you know,

948
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: I saw an interview where he said, Molly trying to

949
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: change my style. I didn't try to change the styles,

950
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: trying to bring him to where where it was going,

951
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: because eventually he went there. Anyway, you get what I'm saying.

952
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: The first record was my melody. Then everybody's president took

953
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: a little faster, do you know what I'm saying. But

954
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: my my initial idea when I first heard rock Kim

955
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: was to speed because because King was doing one thirty

956
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: something already. You know what I'm saying. King was already

957
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: speeding there. He was already speeding, He was already rhyming

958
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: off of fast beats. So and then later on in

959
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: rock kim career, I let the rhythm hit him so

960
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: so song. So everything's fast because Kane came made he

961
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: can change the game with rur that was it. Nobody

962
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: couldn't make White records and no more it was. It

963
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: was already public enemy came out speeding, l I was speeding.

964
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: Everybody was speeding because Kane took the tempo. Came a

965
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: motherfucker's want to quit. I know, I know, motherfucker's come

966
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: to me that that that that nigga's loved saying. When

967
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: I first heard motherfucking came, I was I was going

968
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: to quit because that nigga was nice. He changed the

969
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: motherfucking game and he was smooth with it. Then once

970
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: the bitches started liking him, it was over. But you

971
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it was over. And then he

972
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: did the Madonna and he want pop. He moved out

973
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: to l A. You know, you know we had to

974
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: excuse that hold out to l A. But you know

975
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, like like we was pioneership, didn't know

976
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: what he's getting into it. But you know, you know

977
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: he got he got Hollywood and you did the Hollywood

978
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: Hollywood and definitely do you ever look at this new

979
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: generation to be disgusted? No, I look at it as evolution, bro.

980
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: I can't evolution is a good way or evolution? And

981
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: was we evolution in a good way? You get what

982
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Get the people who don't like what the

983
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: young kids is doing. You're too old. You know what

984
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because when I fell in love with what

985
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: I was doing, I was about eighteen years old. So

986
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: whoever's eighteen years old? Pythone love what they're doing right now.

987
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: And that's that ship. Niggas in their forties and fifties. Man,

988
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: shut the funk up, man, that these niggas do it.

989
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: These niggas did it kids, because did you stay honest?

990
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure when I came out with some sampling niggas

991
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: like there ain't music? Is he doing what I'm saying?

992
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, man, funk that that ain't music. The musicians

993
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: was mad at me. I'm sampling you, musician, niggas. Now,

994
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: I got a button to press. But what table is

995
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: probably saying the same thing about us exactly, you know

996
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'll just call an evolution. Man.

997
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: Let these little niggas do what they do. Man, if

998
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: they want to mumble, mumble on, niggas fun that do

999
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: that ship. If that's what they want to hear, go ahead, ship.

1000
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: I told niggas around and where you you ain't mumbling

1001
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: niggas ain't trying to even hear you, ain't trying to

1002
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: get you better. Get your mumblong. Let me tell you that,

1003
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: get your mumblong. Niggas gett paid right in private jets.

1004
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: That's very true mumbling. Now, come on, bro Wally, how

1005
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 1: the hell did you miss Knaves? How you the inside?

1006
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: You know what the funny ship about Nas with me

1007
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: with Queen's Bridge. I never knew Nas run. He never

1008
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: came to me. He would always stand on the side

1009
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: and watch. So you're saying, like that ship in the

1010
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: album the rock Shan movie is like, I don't remember

1011
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: he Ryan for he was sucking. I mean he was

1012
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: sucking with Hub like that. Because of Seante was a

1013
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: street girl, so she knew everybody all over the hood

1014
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: of course. But Nas never stepped to me because I

1015
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: had co Omega. Co Omega had sex, drugs, bitches and

1016
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: money song out in the hood. Yeah you know listen, um,

1017
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: I heard it called Mega first, like he was the

1018
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: first like guy heard from Queensan's like underground of course prior.

1019
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: But that's that's why, that's why NS probably never stepped

1020
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: to me, because I already had Mega Mega was working

1021
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: with me but he kept going to jail. Yeah, let's say, damn,

1022
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: Mega kept going the jail. I remember that. You know,

1023
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: even you know, even with Percy tragedy back in the day,

1024
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: you know, you still live on my block. He went

1025
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: to he went to he went to jail, and I

1026
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: didn't control so you know, I made sure he came

1027
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: over the money. You get what I'm saying. So you know,

1028
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: all right, boom, but you know, him and Mega kept

1029
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: going to jail, so I couldn't really get it how

1030
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: I needed to be because they would come home, them

1031
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: make some hot ship. Next thing, you know, they're going

1032
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: for a minute. I'm like, damn, what then are we

1033
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing? Why are you going for a minute?

1034
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Mega Mega had sex, drugs,

1035
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: bitches and money. That was some song. He made it

1036
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: in Queen's Bridge before anybody was on that ship now.

1037
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: But he went to jail. Yo, man going away. We're

1038
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: in the studio. You know I'm going away next week.

1039
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: You're going where you're going. I'm going to jail. I

1040
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: gotta do like three points, so like what the fund

1041
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: is talking about, I gotta do like three three three,

1042
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: maybe four or five whatever I'm like, come on, bro.

1043
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: So that's why you know, with nas nas never really

1044
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: stepped to me because that street ship he was doing

1045
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: already already had those dudes and certified cats fund the hood.

1046
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: You know, I already had Mega and and you know

1047
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: the second verse on Live Motivator, that's the blueprint of

1048
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge. You know, anybody that's here my voice, go

1049
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: listen to the second verse of Live Motivator, and that's

1050
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: the blueprint of of what was the yet to come. Right,

1051
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: you have you have a regretted you're not step into Nas. No, no, no,

1052
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: because I understood what it was when they came to

1053
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: getting OS. What do you mean like, you know, when

1054
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: the industry came to getting OS, I understood what it was.

1055
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: You understood understood they needed him. You know what I'm saying.

1056
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: They needed representative from Queensbridge, the place I made hot.

1057
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: But even with MOB, the MOB, I understood what it

1058
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: was all about. They needed part of that, you know

1059
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that was the next generation of it.

1060
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: So you know, by that point, but I think by

1061
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: time nas Can, I was already probably working with LLL,

1062
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: so I was it was something different going on in

1063
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: my life. Okay, looking the role the mockers all that

1064
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: we got a ball ball goddamn it. So um yeah,

1065
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: so you need that. I thought I thought that was

1066
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: something you was just said you wish you was a

1067
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: part of. I mean, I wish you would have produced

1068
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: one of the records on the first Feel Matter. Yeah, okay,

1069
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: but you know me, but I'll do all albums, that's all,

1070
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And the first mob the

1071
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: premiere was the one that that executive produced, that one right,

1072
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: the hit Him on the Back project alway, yeah, the

1073
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: earliest first first, that first one before who executive produced it?

1074
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: You know it's premiere premiere was involved in that project. Okay,

1075
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: And how about that mom, Mom? I mean I understood

1076
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: what it was with Chris Lightning and then Rick Gardless today.

1077
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: I understood that they needed a piece of that Queensbridge

1078
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: Queenemans was bubbling at that point, you know, they needed

1079
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: any So I get it completely. I already know what

1080
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: it is. The spot was hot. The spot was hot. Baby.

1081
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: It's interesting because me being from left Rack and me

1082
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: hearing like you and Trash having turmorial, right, and then

1083
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: me being a part of We had a record called

1084
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: l A l A and he was it was the

1085
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: first person he thought it was you, and that was like,

1086
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: it was weird because I always thought you I had

1087
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: like some type of thing, and he came to you

1088
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: and it was it was actually like dope to see

1089
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: It was dope to see grown men and the boy

1090
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: was dope. Didn't even do that project? Man, did you know?

1091
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: Did you ever think that if tragedy never met me,

1092
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: if we don't be sitting here right now, just exactly

1093
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying. Trash put

1094
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 1: me on. You put trag on, so in a way,

1095
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: if you was not, if you don't exist, I might

1096
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: love it. We might not be sitting here. You put

1097
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: him on his intelligent hold. At that point he was

1098
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: the super kid. Before in telling him he was the

1099
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: super kid, I didn't know the story. The super kid

1100
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: woke up one morning, turn your radio, world couldn't sing

1101
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: your mama, and your brother was gone. The tragedy won't

1102
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: happened to me. Yeah, I got his name from that record.

1103
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: People start calling me tragic because of that record, and

1104
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: he just marn with it. Yo, I'm rocking with that

1105
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm tragic. So that's how he used to make records

1106
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: back then, used to make it and throw it out,

1107
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: just make them wow. And I used to be like

1108
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: the radio radio DJ for magic, so you know, I

1109
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: was able to use it as a promo first and

1110
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: then watch it go. So how did you link up

1111
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: with trash? How did you even he He's from the

1112
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: block like Craig Craiggs from my building. Craig from my

1113
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: building in Queensbridge. Tragedy was the little little dude that

1114
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: lived on the block on the first floor. They used

1115
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: to jump out the window and go to the park jams,

1116
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, we all grew

1117
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: up on the same block, so we all knew each other.

1118
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: I knew his mom's step pops. It's like, you know,

1119
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: everybody's on the same block, so you know. And they

1120
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: started getting warm and they started running, and I was like, yo,

1121
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: let's let's go make something, you know, And and the

1122
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: funny ship contract was sucked up. Back then, we did

1123
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: a lot of ship and just got paid that one time.

1124
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: But that's part of what it was, if you understand.

1125
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: So um Master's right Master as poet U s a

1126
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: the U s a skating ring contest. That's the Jackson Heights. Yeah,

1127
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: it's skating ranking Jackson Heights. He wont he won the

1128
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: skating ring contest to go in the studio with me,

1129
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: so we made one record. But he was nice. I

1130
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: was like, you know, he was really nice. He was

1131
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: too nice to be where he was at if you're

1132
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: asking me, I feel bad for his situation with with

1133
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: Cold Chilling because he was too nice and they didn't know.

1134
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because the chilling is the

1135
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: stars is Kane, right, it's g rap Right, was good

1136
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: and exchanged the old juice creus there, But so he

1137
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: came after everybody was popping and they couldn't really see

1138
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: what he was bringing. It was later when Mass States incorporate, right,

1139
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: that was the loser. Yeah, that's when it really that's

1140
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: when he popped off. I always felt ace that he

1141
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: had something special, but it was just too crowded up

1142
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: there at that minute. A lot of turmoor what was

1143
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: going on, a lot of that bullshit was going on.

1144
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: That was you're working with before track masters or or

1145
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: after truck masters, just before was before? Yeah, Yeah, they

1146
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: try to they try to re light that fire when

1147
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: they put them with with them thinking that they can

1148
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: do what I do, even though he's just using all

1149
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: my samples back anyway, we were sampling you back. Yeah. Yeah,

1150
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: That's why I'm glad I publish him because jay Z

1151
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: and Maya joint they made put my daughter through school

1152
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: track masters. Jennifer appreciates that when when the person does

1153
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: sample you, is it is it? Is it honor or?

1154
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: Like how do you feel? How do you feel about that?

1155
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: But first they better make a hit because we're trying

1156
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: to make money if you sample me, but I'm sample

1157
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: me on the flops. But you know, um, a lot

1158
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: of people don't know that that that song thorough flu

1159
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: can't the young nigga get money? Need moore? Kanye Kanye

1160
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: saying my life. People don't know, people don't know on

1161
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,959
Speaker 1: thorough Flute. Yeah, you know, Candi, young nigga get money.

1162
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: But remember L said that on the record too. So

1163
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: we owned a lot of that record, the Kanye record,

1164
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: and it came at a time when she was a

1165
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: little funky for me and it really changed my life.

1166
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: I gotta like, thank you, Kanye, because I kind of

1167
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: changed my life. And don't know, but when you made

1168
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: that record. It's dope. It made so much motherfucking money

1169
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: that it was a life changer, Let's know what I mean.

1170
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: And and I'm I'm wanted to thank him for that.

1171
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: You know, he probably don't know, but you know I should.

1172
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: You know, we have our ups and that out of

1173
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: downs and loss, so you know, it was it was

1174
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: on a down down with Spiral and one day I

1175
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: got a calls and we went to the clear thorough flute.

1176
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: You're a writer around. I'm like, what you're talking about,

1177
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: Kanye is gonna do it on Soul Training tomorrow. You

1178
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: need to prove it. What are you talking about? I

1179
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: never ain't got nothing to do with that song. Now.

1180
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: I listened to it and I didn't catch it, and

1181
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: I looked under as Captain showed me, as it right

1182
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: for you to not catch it. I didn't catch that ship.

1183
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: And that ship was popping for like two summers when

1184
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: I was here in that ship for two straight summers

1185
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: popped into it and everything not knowing but Joe by

1186
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: the time, you know, by the time anything tallied up

1187
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: and everything came around and the publishing popped, it was.

1188
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: It was life changing. Were you ever on the other

1189
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: side of that issue about sampling. Um, yeah, I got

1190
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: sued on four A Round Away Girl and Peace the

1191
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: President on a Round Away Girl, And the asshole that

1192
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: sued me gave me the record, but he went back

1193
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: and brought the rights to it. After that sampled and

1194
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: put it on all these hits and then sued me.

1195
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: You're getting no pub I ain't gonna say your name, okay.

1196
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: Cool Dayly was the one that caught like. That's when

1197
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: that whole sampling thing started, right there is markis Mark

1198
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: was the first sampling case that that that somebody one

1199
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: for sampling. It was given or Sullivant alone again naturally,

1200
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: and he used it on on his record and he

1201
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: got sued. And that's when Olilois realized you can sue

1202
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: for sanding the whole other business. Then everybody started coming

1203
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: out suing everybody but bis Monkey that you know, after

1204
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: I stopped producing everybody for Coach Chilling, they started trying

1205
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: to replicate what I was doing for them. But they

1206
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, sampling when I used to sample, used to

1207
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: be kicking snares high hat and I'm making my own beats,

1208
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: making my own sort out of it. I wasn't looping

1209
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: like half of the records and stuff like that, and

1210
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: acting like I produced something. You're just taking sounds, taking

1211
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: sounds and manipulating the sounds and making my own patterns

1212
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: and putting stuff over it. That's how I started sampling.

1213
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm to be honest, maybe I'm the first person

1214
01:06:54,440 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: to chop up a beat, m another fucking to make

1215
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: it unrecognizable, to make you Now, to make my own

1216
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: soup out of it. I could take a kick of

1217
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: snare and put my own pattern at it, you know,

1218
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: like like Araby as president, like nobody beast the biz

1219
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: and those are that's in Peace the President. But I'm

1220
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: making my own beat out of that sound. So I'm

1221
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: the first to do that. And Peace the President's the

1222
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: tragedy record, that's arrest the President's tragedy. Arrest the President

1223
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: was on tragedy record later on what kind of flat

1224
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: did you? How you see you back then? Because we

1225
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: make an arrest the president? Right now? What is making

1226
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: fake Donald Trump songs and left and right right? But

1227
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: back then, Yeah, but back then he had a few visits. Yeah, superservice. Yeah,

1228
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: he he probably had a few visits. Wow him personally,

1229
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: you gotta ask him he told me a story or

1230
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: two about he had a visitor to h and this

1231
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: is when hip hop because now I remember we had

1232
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: fun the police from n w A. So now he's saying,

1233
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: arrest the residents and you produced this correct. So yeah,

1234
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: so the backlash so you you didn't get nothing? Okay, alright, cool,

1235
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 1: Well God better make sure. Yeah, scary moments, how because

1236
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: we live in a scary time right now? Real, cl

1237
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: real crazy? What yeah? What is what is the craziest

1238
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: thing that you saw that said, man, I gotta fall back?

1239
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: This is we we out of line. The craziest thing

1240
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: I've seen. It's how and you know, it's how certain

1241
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: entities and people want to keep our people stupid, if

1242
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's like black falling

1243
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: type of stuff. No, no, no, they want to keep

1244
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, like kind of like keep it where you

1245
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: don't have to be intelligent to make a lot of money,

1246
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: keep us, you know, make people have to stoop down

1247
01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: to go back and be vert. Get about streaming. Streaming

1248
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: is the ship is just the new. It's the new,

1249
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's the new money making now as opposed

1250
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: to you, you know, buying my record and buying my property.

1251
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: Now you can stream it. Now I can still make money.

1252
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: The more streams you make, the more money you make.

1253
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: But you don't have to actually Downlottle wild right, keep

1254
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: listening to it and it can spread. Like streaming. Streaming

1255
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: was good. They had to do that. They had to

1256
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: get ahold of this digital. It was out of control first.

1257
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: But when c these first came and started getting digital

1258
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: and MP three's and the napster. Yeah, they were saying

1259
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: CDs was like the like the most expensive ship, and

1260
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: the labels were disrespectful with CDs the way they were

1261
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: overcharging for what it was causing them. But when digital

1262
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 1: came out, that was that's when everything stuff. They had

1263
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: to learn how to control that. Now, streaming is the

1264
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: way to control it because if you're streaming it from

1265
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: a site that's generating money now advertising for them that

1266
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: they got to pay because you're looking at these artists

1267
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: right now, they don't care about sales. They don't care

1268
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: They had money off streams, and that's what it turned into.

1269
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: The industry had to figure out how to make money

1270
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: off for digital because they was losing in the beginning. Yeah,

1271
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: that's real talk. So now you're kind of log it

1272
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: is that. Yeah, all your kind of you do you

1273
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: get like stream um some of the stuff um, the

1274
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,759
Speaker 1: later successful stuff, Yeah, because a lot of my earliest

1275
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: stuff was just what it is. Just it wasn't even

1276
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: even at the contract. And yeah, digital you know, to

1277
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: be honest, digital was never nobody nobody contract digital. Yeah,

1278
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: there wasn't nobody. It was all physical. I was wondering

1279
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 1: when the hardest was. I was wondering when the industry message,

1280
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: when the industry was going to sue for for digital rights,

1281
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: because as artists, we never signed for this. Y'all just

1282
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: took it there Chuck d Suit University and one Chucky

1283
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: was killing with internet radio early on. He was always

1284
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. But everybody signed contracts and didn't

1285
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: sign for streaming and didn't sign for digital. It wasn't

1286
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 1: and it made that concept and want to pay you

1287
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: what they want to pay you. Do you know what

1288
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They just want to give you what they

1289
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: want to give you. It's probably not what we deserve

1290
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: because sales probably was more. We probably get like three

1291
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: point two percent of opinion every stream when we was

1292
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: getting twelve percent or nothing before. All right, do you

1293
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. So we could be getting less,

1294
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: but it's just what it is. I was wondering when

1295
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: the artist was gonna step up to that. Yeah, I swell,

1296
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: we got we got we gotta do that. Not a symphathy. Yeah, man,

1297
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: I need to fall back and just tell me how

1298
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: the hell is happening? H You know on my album

1299
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: cover you see us that the UM the jet and

1300
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: led Jet. I thought that was up t the borough early. Um,

1301
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: was you the first to do that clear port? No doubt,

1302
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: not some art. We broke the mother fucking plan port

1303
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: and the clear point and that's clear point. Okay, Okay,

1304
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: Now that day came. You know, before that day, Kane

1305
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: and g Rat made a freestyle off of Ror where

1306
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: it was going back to back and it went all

1307
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: the way out. It was it was like some some

1308
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: of I played on the radio like a few times,

1309
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 1: but everybody was getting excited. If you got this, you

1310
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: got this in all carves, I'll do it. We could

1311
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: we drink chance dot com. So what happened after we

1312
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: made that um that photo shoot in front of the

1313
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: airplane and led yet and all that, and so Kane

1314
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: was like, yo, let's go make a record, and I

1315
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: was like, bad, let's let's recreate that thing y'all did

1316
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: off ror, but everybody was with us. So we went

1317
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 1: back to We went to um the story that was made,

1318
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: the story it since and so god, I mean the

1319
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 1: story of projects, not story project, the story apartment. And

1320
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: so when we get there, Master eight was there because

1321
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: he's on the album. UM Shim was like, yo, I'll

1322
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: meet your LA's album right, yeah, my control album. I

1323
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: mean the leg at get the back of it. So

1324
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: now we're go and make that record. Now, nobody wants

1325
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: to run first, so let I said, let me put

1326
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: Master Ace on it just to fill up the space

1327
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: because he wasn't gonna be on the rect because the

1328
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: person at the end of that time was the hot

1329
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: hot So nobody first said, I don't care whose first,

1330
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: because you're seeing that talking about I don't want to

1331
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: be first, I don't want nig I don't care first last.

1332
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: Y'all just listening closely and was trying to do what

1333
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: I did that was a kipper. Everybody heard his rhymes

1334
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: like all ship this this new nigga, this new nigga, dude.

1335
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: The nobody didn't want to be on the record. With

1336
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: that nigger. That's probably why she didn't show what because

1337
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be in Shamon was gonna come to that.

1338
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: He was gonna be on that record, you know what

1339
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So he got on. He killed it. Everybody's

1340
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: looking at him like, oh ship. Everybody got heavy in

1341
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: the panic, got quiet, seeg Wrap over there. You see

1342
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: motherfucking Cane over there. And then then Craig g did

1343
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: his part, which was hot, and then all of a sudden,

1344
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: they're looking at you all, who's gonna go? Who's gonna go?

1345
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: They don't. They all get about who's gonna go first?

1346
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 1: Man g Rap gets on and wraps all the way

1347
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: to the end of the beat. He didn't give Kane

1348
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: no space before I happened. I had to cut the

1349
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 1: wraps part down and then give Kane some space. But

1350
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: they can't say right there with the wrap, just went

1351
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: looking at each other like if they had. They always

1352
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: had like a ill inside competition going on, and I

1353
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: loved it. Felt like all three of them, like g Rack,

1354
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: Kine and Rock him, I felt like it was always

1355
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: a secret. Let me explain something to you about the

1356
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: whole creation of Eric B and Rock kim Okay. I

1357
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: was introduced to Eric by Polo, So I'm trying to

1358
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: say that the Corona so so where it was Eric

1359
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: b was hanging around with Polo with us first, right,

1360
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: so he saw a Polo get with g Rat and

1361
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 1: make a group. He's like, I think I could do

1362
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: this ship too. Wait wait, so g rap came before

1363
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: came Kim rock him. Yeah, I always start rock him

1364
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: and then and no talk of ever rock him being

1365
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: a part of Juice Crew. No, because that's all I

1366
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: can think about what you keep talking about all. You

1367
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: know what's crazy when when I when we first made

1368
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: My Melody and Everybody's President, I think the Verybody's President day.

1369
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: I gave them like demo mixes. I was like, I'm

1370
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: gonna mix this next week so to make a copy

1371
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: of what y'all guy? And that was the record. It's

1372
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: all sloppy. Ship was all loud, but it was the ship. Ship.

1373
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: She's like vocals going, U'm riding Vocal's live. You know,

1374
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: she's all loud coming out of nowhere at the end

1375
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 1: of the records and ship. But that was the record,

1376
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: and that's what people loved. And but I'm telling you,

1377
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: I don't think if if if Eric B wasn't hanging

1378
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: around Polo, he probably would have got the idea to

1379
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: do a group m because he saw a polo do

1380
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: it so easily with us. He's like, Yo, fun that

1381
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: everybody coming up there and becoming stars. I could I

1382
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: could make a rapper come up here too, Yo, could

1383
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: we get the studio tomorrow? I got someone still coming in.

1384
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: And that's how it kind of happened. He was hanging

1385
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: around Polo first, all right, Polo kind of like popped

1386
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: it for him. When you first seen rock Kim, did

1387
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: you did you think he was good? Because Rock Kim

1388
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 1: I heard you say can change rap earlier. Rock Kim

1389
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 1: changed rap too because he came. Definitely, he definitely he

1390
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: had a dope tune. When I first heard his tune,

1391
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 1: I knew it was off the motherfucking change and I

1392
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: had a bullshit Mica and he still was dope, so

1393
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: I already knew just this motherfucker nice right here. It's

1394
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: something something different about his word play. I always knew

1395
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: he had wordplay, but if you know what I mean,

1396
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: he always had wordplay. And as soon as I heard

1397
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: it from the top or this cat wasn't that he

1398
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 1: didn't curse right, and he didn't curse too, and it

1399
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 1: was hard motherfucker. I never really peeped. He didn't curse.

1400
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: He never really curse. Curse word. Yeah, you wouldn't think

1401
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: that that that's real talk. What Chad was really fucked up?

1402
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: Right now? I was thinking all I mean, yeah, he

1403
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: was just dope. Yeah, he had wordplay, work playing and flow.

1404
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 1: When you heard nas that he remind you a rock

1405
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: first time you heard nas, because that's what everybody said,

1406
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, the first time I heard Nash. I think

1407
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 1: it was an't hard to tell and was the first time.

1408
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: If I have the time, I hadn't want the barbecue first. Yeah,

1409
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: that's when everybody's like, yore the kid from from the

1410
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: from the forties side and back to the Brilligate wasn't before.

1411
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: I don't think I maybe I didn't pay attention to

1412
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: it like that. You at to get too much money

1413
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: at that time. Yeah, he was out there killing. Yeah,

1414
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: I could have could have missed that one. Bro. By

1415
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: the time the barbecue came out, that's when that was like, Oh,

1416
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: I went to jail for snuffing Jesus when I was twelve.

1417
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: I went to help with stuffing. Jesus Jesus when when

1418
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: I heard him say that ship, because I was like

1419
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 1: this niggaid, my architect was so proud of twelve I

1420
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: went to help us. I was like, God, this is

1421
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: how you fucking found back my da. I was so

1422
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 1: proud of my fucking hood. I was like, good man,

1423
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: that ship was so dope. Gotta be proud, Yeah, you

1424
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: gotta be proud. Uh this these new kids from from

1425
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge right now Jay Rosette, So I just look

1426
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: out for him and shoot. Uh. I like his little

1427
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: movement that he got to my people from laft Flack

1428
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 1: block game. But um so, what's your favorite ror and music?

1429
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: My favorite era it has to be like like like

1430
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: the Eric Bist President era, like eighty I would say

1431
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: eighties six to eighty nine or eighty eight six to

1432
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: eighty eight was something. It was like something special, was

1433
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 1: like special albums came out at that time. It just shifted.

1434
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: It was definitely a shifted. It was. It was a shift.

1435
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: It was more sample heavy because I haven't told everybody

1436
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 1: with how to make records literally change. Everybody got better.

1437
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You have people digging, digging

1438
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: for shifting. You know, you use that, I'm going to

1439
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: use this, you know what I'm saying. That was such

1440
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: a great time right there. They'll probably would never be

1441
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: like that ever again for the music, and that was

1442
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: such a pinnacle point of everything we love and it

1443
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: won't go away when you're working right now around the world.

1444
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: DJ and't just playing that ship playing I don't know,

1445
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: but talking about that era, what did you guys think

1446
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: about what was going on the West coast at that

1447
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: exact same time, Um Easy and n w and all

1448
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: of them coming up. I remember the first time I

1449
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 1: ever heard a motherfucker n w A record, Ice Tea

1450
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: was already out too, and I think it was the

1451
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: first compilation they put when they all standing standing in behind.

1452
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: It was like an n w A album and they

1453
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: all standing behind some warehouse with the feel of first

1454
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: crew with everybody that was like, what was that that was?

1455
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean they ended up putting that out afterwards. It

1456
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 1: was like a n w A in the family or

1457
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: something like that. Right, Yeah. I remember when I first

1458
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: heard a shoot off the Craig g put me up

1459
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: on them. Craig was like, now I'm I'm a guy

1460
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: to make records. I'm on the radio, I'm ready to

1461
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: make it hit records, and we're not cursing this ship.

1462
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 1: But when I heard these niggas, motherfuck this, I was like,

1463
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 1: this is some crazy easy ship right here. But I

1464
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: knew it because every every other rapper was. It was

1465
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: too clean. The mother was like, man, fuck y'all, funk everything.

1466
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: Fuck this, fuck that, fuck your mother. I see coming

1467
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: before them. Yeah yeah, Iced he was out, but he

1468
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: wasn't as roar as at that time. I mean he

1469
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: was doing this thing. I think what caught me with

1470
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: them was they beats. I wasn't into the earlier Iced

1471
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: Tea stuff because of the music wasn't It wasn't kind

1472
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: of like where we was at. Kind of it was

1473
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: like on the West Coast vibe. So I kind of

1474
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: kind of missed it a little. So it was Drake's production.

1475
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: Drake's production. Yeah, it was his drums. Crazy. He was

1476
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: newpooth beats and chopping ship and had band motherfucker's playing

1477
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: guitarest ship. I was like, god, damn, these motherfucker's is

1478
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: saying something. It was the ship to me, but I

1479
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: was stuck. I was like, yea, when I first heard

1480
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: this ship, I was like, Man, this motherfucker's just doing

1481
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 1: doing it and realized I realized how regional rat was

1482
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 1: gonna be at that point because we could have cared

1483
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: less what they was talking about, but out there they

1484
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: kid less what they was talking about. They could have

1485
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: cared less. But what then we just talking about because

1486
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: they had their own language. And that's what I've seen.

1487
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: It happened to rap. I go to different countries. You know,

1488
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: it's sucking people rapping in every fucking language, which is

1489
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 1: possible right now, you know what I'm saying, there's always

1490
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 1: something open up MC or DJ for me. Whenever I

1491
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: go to any country or whatever, they're wrapping in their language.

1492
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: And I'm seeing the progression all over the world and

1493
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: every part of every part of the world, every corner.

1494
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: And I would have never thought it would be like

1495
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: that sitting in my Queen's Bridge department making ship. Would

1496
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: I never thought it would be like that. That's crazy,

1497
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing. Man. Hip hop savings got different

1498
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: says lives saves lives. So how did you link back

1499
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: up like l L because you wasn't one of them

1500
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 1: in the beginning, Right in the beginning of it was

1501
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: much drivers before Brian. He was going to Jim, we

1502
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: may we may beat by that. Remember that's why you

1503
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: said trying to take Uh yeah, because we got mad

1504
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: because you know, the rock the Bell's remake sound like

1505
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: Molly's scratch. So we was you know, we're young. Uh

1506
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 1: didn't give a funk going like yo, man, funk that.

1507
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But then you know later on,

1508
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: you know El from Queen's know what I'm saying. You know.

1509
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: The funny shing about L with me is my aunt,

1510
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: my father's sister H raised his wife. Uh like my

1511
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: father's sister was um Simon's um moms when she was

1512
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: alive of her best friend and Simone's mom passed, and

1513
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: my my aunt like, Yo to my best friend, I'm

1514
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna take care of you. I'm gonna buy bye bye.

1515
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: And I never knew that. Wow. And later on and

1516
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: like me and l L kind of found out. That's

1517
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: why we got kind of type because we're talking about

1518
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, you know Peggy, but I said, yeah,

1519
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: I got Aunt Peggy seven degrees. It's crazy. It was

1520
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: crazy because he said something about Aunt Peggy one day

1521
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: and I was like sho, I got a aunt Peggy.

1522
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: I was joking, but joking me, it's the same same person.

1523
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: Everybody called h and you know, and you know she

1524
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 1: used to she she used to work with his family

1525
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: even as the kids was growing up. And you know,

1526
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: we we never knew that that that we was that close. Wow, Yeah,

1527
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: that's that was that's my my father's sister. You know,

1528
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: she lived in Jamaica. I lived in Queensbridge. I didn't

1529
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know that that's what she was doing,

1530
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,839
Speaker 1: but it was. It's weird. So after that, then musically

1531
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: we got together. It was insane, you know what I'm saying.

1532
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 1: And you know, we this went out to the who

1533
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: whole album you did together? Which one was it? The

1534
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: whole album? The whole album? Every every Reavy record? Which

1535
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: which album was this? And that was going at um

1536
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: Kumodou to the Break of Dawn was actually going at

1537
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: Kumo d iced Tea and hammer. Everybody was going to

1538
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: hammer al from now looking back at that time, yeah,

1539
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 1: everybody was going at him. But a lot of people

1540
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 1: is mad because he made a lot of paper. Yeah,

1541
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: so you know that's a good thing, and it wasn't

1542
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: considered real hip hop. But you know it's that was

1543
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: the beginning of of that. That shouldn't let everybody see

1544
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: what records they should be making, because that's where it

1545
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: went anyway, every everybody went pop. That's where hip hop

1546
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: is at right now. Exactly what Hammler was doing is

1547
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 1: what mumbled rapids right now, He's right mumble. You know,

1548
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: it's the same place I go. I go to. You know,

1549
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: I start much a Future concert. Before I was like

1550
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 1: saying to myself, twenty years ago, this would have been

1551
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: a rock concert. Yeah, the same people in the audience,

1552
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 1: the same people on somebody's show. This the same blah

1553
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: blah blah. I'm seeing anybody out there. I'm like, twenty

1554
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: years ago, this would have been a rock concert. So

1555
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: I see how rap took that spot. So that's how

1556
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: hamming Ship was back in the day. This ship was

1557
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: a rock concert, you know, before they was doing it.

1558
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: You know, he had hundreds of people on stage dance.

1559
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: It was like a big production. That's that's a rock concert,

1560
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: just killing it, you know, And that's what these you know,

1561
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, I went to Future show all and a

1562
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 1: half motherfucker's was losing their mind straight to Eavery record.

1563
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: He's just doing half of versus and the crowd doing

1564
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: the rest. But you know, that was one of the

1565
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: most intense times I've ever seen. I'm a fan. I

1566
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: gotta get it because I got yes, so I can't hate.

1567
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,799
Speaker 1: Can't hate these young kids, man. But as a producer,

1568
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 1: you think you could contribute to that or would you

1569
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 1: stick to what you think you're laying invent my wheel?

1570
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: You wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't

1571
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: do it. And I feel like there's room now it

1572
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 1: is for everybody to be in their own If anything,

1573
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: I would, I would do more E d M. It's

1574
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: something E d M. Really yeah, something like that as

1575
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: opposed to you know, trapp y'all do YO do? Before

1576
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: I started making hip hop, I was making electronic music anyway.

1577
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: That's why I had the edge over everybody because I

1578
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 1: was already tech savvy. I was working off the Baker dude.

1579
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: Come on, man, they was making a i OU Planet Rock,

1580
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: all these electronic beats and you know AI O use

1581
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 1: a sample. I was. I was an intern watching these dudes.

1582
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: So what I did is I saw what they was

1583
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: doing with these vocals and putting vocal samples. I'm like, yeah,

1584
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 1: I could put hip hop and that ship. I could

1585
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: put my favorite sniff and play it to a beat

1586
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: while nobody knew what the fun was going on. And

1587
01:27:58,200 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 1: that's why I was able to add the edge on

1588
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: everybody because I worked at Unique Studios and they was

1589
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: ahead of heavy fucking body. Unique Studios in my hand,

1590
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, there was ahead of every motherfucking body. I

1591
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: like technology seven. Yeah, yeah, that was. I was a intern.

1592
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: That's why I started out. That's why I sampled my first.

1593
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: That's why I discovered sampling Unique Studio at Unique because

1594
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: I was doing something else and the tragedy bought us

1595
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 1: there for or report the album, right, So I was

1596
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 1: I was playing, I was sampling something else and the

1597
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 1: snare went in there and I started playing the snail

1598
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: the bat. I said, you'll turn this that bullshit snare down.

1599
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 1: I started playing my ship and I started thinking. I

1600
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh, ship, I can take any kick, any

1601
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 1: snaire from any hot back. And I got home that

1602
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: that's proven already, and make beat. Nobody was thinking about

1603
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: that ship. All the favorite breakbeats to everybody would go

1604
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: crazy to in piece the President was the hottest record

1605
01:28:55,640 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: for any DC to play for years, and you know,

1606
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 1: put that shirt on the record. Every record that I

1607
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: have a sample those drums was a hit. Every record

1608
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 1: that ever used that was a hit because your brain

1609
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: likes it already. Mm hmm. It's it's a science. It's

1610
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: like the music that's out. Why do you think every

1611
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 1: beat sounds the same because your brain likes it. Yeah,

1612
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: it's the same drums, even the vocals, the melodies right there,

1613
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: because your brain likes it already. It's like it's you

1614
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: know what, It's almost like a chef. If he knows

1615
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: what you like, he could add those ingredients to everything

1616
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: he cooks for you, and you're gonna love everything he does.

1617
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 1: It's the same ship. That's ill. It's a science. That's

1618
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: as one of the most important shows, y'all like me, right,

1619
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 1: I got friends. His name is Scott starts right, Scott

1620
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: store shot one time was one of the hottest producers.

1621
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,759
Speaker 1: I've seen him literally be outside with a cheese line

1622
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:11,879
Speaker 1: outside his door. You at one point, well, the only

1623
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 1: mother fuck up you had, like you wanted to hit record,

1624
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: you had to see I imagine your cheese lines was crazy.

1625
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that. This is surprisingly the people that

1626
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 1: came to my house. Bro. Back in the days, you'd

1627
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: be so surprised. Bro, let's let's get something. You know.

1628
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 1: It was. It was crazy. Um to this day you

1629
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 1: still like work in your house, like you got your

1630
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: own studio that worked for you your whole life. By changing. Yeah,

1631
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, it was a point where I could have

1632
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: brought a big, multimillion dollar mansion or in s to sell,

1633
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: but I wanted to get I wanted to get that

1634
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 1: sellstead you have that in the crib not no more.

1635
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: But that was probably one of the first people to

1636
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 1: get word of crib because I felt it was gonna

1637
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: make money back. You know. I mean to me, I

1638
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 1: ain't buying the gold chains and stupid boards. Yeah yeah,

1639
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: power play having a big one. So I was always

1640
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: into buying equipment because I knew it was. It was like,

1641
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 1: it's like drug money I got, I gotta re up.

1642
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to do to get better money. I gotta

1643
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: get better equipment, but I gotta get the best ship

1644
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: on the block. So instead of buying fabulous stuff, I

1645
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 1: would now in demand demand. You were like, I remember,

1646
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 1: like I should have go I was young, and I

1647
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 1: remember it like I knew if you had a hit record,

1648
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: you need it had to be produced by volleyball. Like

1649
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: how crazy was it? It was insane. I mean I

1650
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 1: was doing mixes for prints, Shakakoda was coming at there,

1651
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 1: was coming at me all over. Um. One time he

1652
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: even wanted me to produce the Beastie Boys. Wow, that

1653
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 1: would have been that wouldn't do crazy, That would have

1654
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: been crazy. But I was kind of like I would

1655
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: kind of like want to say at the culture for

1656
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 1: what it was. I never thought that. I mean, I

1657
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: dugged them, but I didn't think that they was what

1658
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,560
Speaker 1: I was doing, if you know what I mean. You know,

1659
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 1: I had rough, rough fast niggers on the beats. We

1660
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 1: wasn't joking, so you know, but it probably would have

1661
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: been different. I think it would have been. I would

1662
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 1: have gave my hot beat did what they did now

1663
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: I see it, but back then then see it like

1664
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 1: I didn't see. I was trying to, you know, keep

1665
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,560
Speaker 1: keep wrapped hard and keep it true to what it was,

1666
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: because it seem they were clown. Yeah. Yeah, but you

1667
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: know they think they think, you know, godarsted when they passed,

1668
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: but you know they did they think but I believe

1669
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: that I didn't. I didn't produce them because I thought

1670
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:49,719
Speaker 1: they was clowning what we was doing. Kind of, I didn't.

1671
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: I didn't see that that too. It would that that

1672
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 1: would be the suburbs way in if you know what

1673
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't I didn't catch that is anything

1674
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 1: you ever regret. I regret not producing Michael Jackson, you

1675
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: had the opportunity. No, I regret not producing. That's that's

1676
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 1: what I regret not producing that. Yeah about you set

1677
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 1: us up? Regret that Ye just set us up, all

1678
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 1: of our hearts all my favorite group, God, God, God

1679
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 1: was my favorite group back in the day. I don't

1680
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 1: know why God was one of my favorite groups. But

1681
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: you you got a chance to work with them, and

1682
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 1: you did. Um. Now I wish, I wish I would

1683
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 1: have heard tell a story only right, and we want

1684
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: to talk about the story with the phrasing of the

1685
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 1: new Jack swing. You know a lot of people think

1686
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: that Teddy Riley kind of invented new Jack swing. But

1687
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: me and Heavy D was making records and he was

1688
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: always talking about his new Now he's always talking about

1689
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: swing beats. My swing beats, my swing beats, my swing

1690
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 1: beach that's before Teddy role even guy got what uptown

1691
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. So he's talking about

1692
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: his swing beats. So somebody put new Jack on the

1693
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 1: beginning of the swing beats and now that they they

1694
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 1: formed a whole new way of making it's music. But

1695
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 1: it's the form of the man Heavy D started. So

1696
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't ready at uptown earlier in the

1697
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 1: game making swing beats for Heavy D. See people collide,

1698
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: but the timeline doesn't lie on records. Go back to

1699
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 1: the early Heavy D records with me. Before uptown was

1700
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 1: new Jack swing. He's talking about his swing beats that

1701
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 1: I produced. But what specifically makes something New Jack swing? Um,

1702
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 1: it's just it was. It was. It was a timing.

1703
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: It's like one two want to want to? That's the

1704
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: new Jack swing. Regular was one two one two Jack.

1705
01:34:53,680 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 1: That's like crackhead music. Basically that ass. You gotta think

1706
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 1: crack has used to dance good to Jack tell the

1707
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 1: truth but hooks in the eighties. But the mother to

1708
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: say that that was to say how how much cocaine

1709
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: crack effect? Because that was that was that's when it

1710
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 1: invented all the records about crack and all that is

1711
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: about that error. So how much was that affected you? Like,

1712
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm lucky for me. I mean lucky for me. I

1713
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 1: mean I thank God for this day. One day I

1714
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: tried to crack. It didn't work. Wait what it didn't

1715
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 1: come Yeah, it didn't work. Was getting high and us

1716
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 1: all in the place. I'm like, yo, check it out.

1717
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: So the glass maybe had air in it, so air

1718
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 1: came in instead of cracking. And I was like, oh man,

1719
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 1: she is whack. Ain't y'all do that? Give me the week?

1720
01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 1: You know what? I'm saying that back in back that time.

1721
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 1: So God save my life by making the air come through. Nothing,

1722
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:05,719
Speaker 1: because I see too many people that the air didn't

1723
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 1: come through, but they're not the same. How many people

1724
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 1: you see get high? I mean you just throw it

1725
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 1: out there. I've seen superstar artists get high. I don't worry.

1726
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 1: No one listens to us small. I want to Rick James.

1727
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,560
Speaker 1: That's how not the man was. James wanted me to

1728
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 1: do something with him, so that up in there and

1729
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm at Rick James house. I'm not

1730
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I might have got hime with James my day.

1731
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm ready to us today I gotta do one time

1732
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: Mr Mr p Funk himself, George George Clinton. He's like, yeah,

1733
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 1: we're going to pray. He does everything not one day.

1734
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, he said we're going to pray.

1735
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 1: What that means? It sounds scared with us. Let's go

1736
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 1: in the room and pray. When they're talking about praying that,

1737
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, they was doing their thing, and I was tempted.

1738
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, this is like this would go

1739
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 1: down in my It's like a bucket list. I took

1740
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 1: a hit with this mother anybody right, I took a

1741
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 1: fucking head with him, and you know it would have

1742
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: been a bucking this. I didn't do it, but I

1743
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 1: was really thinking about it. No, there was there was,

1744
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, doing whatever they or whatever they. I was

1745
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 1: tempted to do it with it, just so I could

1746
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 1: say in my mind, George hot that George motherfucking Clinton,

1747
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 1: not Bill George. That's all I was, you know, I

1748
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: was tempted. But if thing happened, because that was that

1749
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: was that was like an ill time like like like

1750
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 1: like that was like the first like like drug epidemic era,

1751
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 1: like you got to see you got to see hip

1752
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 1: hop go from happy to then you just have to

1753
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: hear these records. Maybe that was one of the reasons

1754
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 1: I had to lead a too, because it became like

1755
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 1: like at night, it was like night nightey living bass

1756
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,600
Speaker 1: heads because like now we used to crackheads, but this

1757
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 1: is the original crackhead. It's the ringing era. Yeah, when

1758
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: the block block was dark and you see people just

1759
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 1: walking like zombies. Because I'm forty I'll be forty one

1760
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,799
Speaker 1: this year, and I remember cocaine was like a classic

1761
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 1: drug and then crack actually at first was like the cool,

1762
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 1: cheap way to get to that. It was a cheap

1763
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: way to hit. And then like so you remember like

1764
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: the cocaine raw as opposed to the crack arrab like

1765
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 1: because you know, because the cocaine niggers over there over

1766
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:39,639
Speaker 1: there like cocaine me cousin, my cousin, Burrows and Kiddle.

1767
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: He says he's down the clucaine. Listen. We've been trying

1768
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 1: to tell you for years. Boris is down, but he's

1769
01:38:52,880 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 1: not on that ship. Yes, Slippers is down. When listen, yo,

1770
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 1: that's why he'd be swaying like that. Like man, I'm

1771
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 1: just telling you that pay attention to your friend I'm

1772
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 1: just staring out there. Basically the cocaine in the Remember,

1773
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: because in the cocaine era, I wasn't really famous yet.

1774
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 1: I was still playing in in smitties after hours queens.

1775
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 1: It would be after hours. The number of spot man

1776
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:26,560
Speaker 1: um um. It's not cheeking the pall. The pub was

1777
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 1: down the street. Okay, he's going to block the competition. Okay,

1778
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 1: yeah cool. You know, in the in the cocaine era,

1779
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: I used to be like a DJ and clubs. And

1780
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,759
Speaker 1: then once I started getting famous, then the climate started changing.

1781
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 1: A little crack started coming out. Then the wools and

1782
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 1: started smoking rundies and ship you know what I'm saying.

1783
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 1: So and then and the baddest chicken on the on

1784
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 1: your block that never gave you no ask was giving

1785
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:54,679
Speaker 1: out ask for nothing. That's from that changed like a dirty.

1786
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 1: There's a dirty. It's a dirty. You were describing to

1787
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 1: people with the dirtiest smoking the talk to the people.

1788
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the Hayes can tell us better. That's a dirty.

1789
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 1: He just smoking. It's smoking powder, Yeah, smoking powder. We

1790
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 1: went in New York round me and powder in Miami,

1791
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 1: which smoking a dirty dirty, yes, But in New Yorker,

1792
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 1: who was weed and Cracked made my eyes bleed. See,

1793
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:38,719
Speaker 1: we didn't go that's what he said. That's what facking

1794
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 1: weed made my eyes bleed. That's what he's talking about

1795
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: the moves because there was a whole error of that.

1796
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: It was a whole error, and you know it was rampid.

1797
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,799
Speaker 1: You know. To be honest, when I was seeing everybody

1798
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: get high, I had to get away from that. That's

1799
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 1: why I moved up stick. That's why I moved to

1800
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 1: where I moved. I'm a corner with you up there.

1801
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:01,599
Speaker 1: You you came up to the spot, you know. Um,

1802
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: that's why I moved. I went to get away from

1803
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 1: everybody getting high. It was like too much for me. Wow,

1804
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 1: mother focker's thought they could just come to my house,

1805
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 1: and you know, I had the studio just show up

1806
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 1: and think you're gonna come there and start getting high.

1807
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 1: So let me just describe, Let me describe this. They

1808
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 1: just get this glass fights, correct, because this has got

1809
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 1: to be looking crazy smoking crap. Yeah, I mean you're

1810
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 1: talking about hitting first. Once Crack came in, they got

1811
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 1: a little got a little crazy. Mockers just thought they

1812
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,560
Speaker 1: could just you know, it was like it was like

1813
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 1: recreational at one point this episode st this so we

1814
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 1: still was making his and still came to bring out

1815
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 1: the sun of this bitch. What's the hint that was

1816
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:58,600
Speaker 1: made crack cocaine that was around We need to know

1817
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 1: drink as we love story just saying on drugs. I

1818
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 1: could tell you one of the artists came to my house.

1819
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 1: You see so much coke. I found him in the

1820
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 1: bathroom spoil the funk out. He went to the hospital

1821
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 1: and got an operation. Not just leave it at no

1822
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: record was I'll leave it at that, and it's one

1823
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 1: of your favorite artists. Oh, I just leave it at

1824
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: wait for the movie, Wait for My bad Dad. I

1825
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:43,600
Speaker 1: don't know. And that you know that famous freestyle is

1826
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,680
Speaker 1: Kane jay Z. I think pos in it? Were you there?

1827
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm not not that we're Brooklyn at freestyle. That was crazy. Yeah,

1828
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 1: that was crazy. Mr C. Actually he recorded that. That's

1829
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 1: his record. That's his recording. He was recorded that live,

1830
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 1: right He recorded it live and wanted to be for them.

1831
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 1: And you know that's another history making moment right there.

1832
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 1: You know, who would think that Mr C would even

1833
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 1: discover Biggie if you know what I mean. That's like

1834
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 1: that's part of the tree. Too part of your tree

1835
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 1: of course, of course, you know, and you know, Viggie

1836
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 1: was incredible. Biggie was one of the dopest, dopest rappers

1837
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 1: that could cling on a beat better than anybody. I mean,

1838
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 1: I do magic with other artists to make them be

1839
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,679
Speaker 1: on the beat. Big shot you out, of course, of course.

1840
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 1: And I didn't know what that meant when he first

1841
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 1: did it. I didn't know that thirty years later it

1842
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: would still mean something to what it would mean because

1843
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: that put me into a whole another generation. And the

1844
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 1: record just keeps playing anyway. It's plays every day somewhere,

1845
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 1: and you know, people may not have known about my

1846
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 1: production or what I've done for hip hop, or who

1847
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 1: I brought out or who I discovered or nothing. They

1848
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 1: just know Biggie mentioned my name on the record that

1849
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 1: they keep hearing. So I didn't know the significance of that.

1850
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 1: I kind of slept on it at first. We said,

1851
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 1: should he said my name, that's cool, blah blah blah.

1852
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 1: But where he says it, Molly More, it's kind of

1853
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: like Jappie jap on the bridge, Jappie jap d you

1854
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like at a Pinnacle Point,

1855
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: and I didn't know the significance of Biggie shouting me

1856
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 1: out on that wreck and how important it would be

1857
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:29,560
Speaker 1: to me. I didn't really realize the tree that that

1858
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 1: that the connection through Mr C. Think Daddy can choose

1859
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:37,680
Speaker 1: crew Biggie. Do you know what I'm saying. It's it's

1860
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 1: almost like that if I didn't meet, if I didn't

1861
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 1: meet Mr C, would there be a Biggie mm hm

1862
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: m m Because Mr C put Cane, came put big

1863
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 1: See what's King's d J? Yeah? Right, so then and

1864
01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 1: and then that yeah, that gave you you know, that

1865
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 1: gave him cloud. So you know what they have been

1866
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 1: with We don't know. I mean, there's possibly a lot

1867
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 1: of people you don't know that got inspired off of

1868
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 1: everything you did that you may not know that direct

1869
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 1: direct a correct retreat match. Is there any artist that

1870
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 1: ever came to you that you fronted on like you

1871
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 1: didn't see that there was a star and then later

1872
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: on became a star and he was like, damn, I

1873
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 1: fucked up. You know what's funny and glad you say

1874
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:41,600
Speaker 1: that because jay z n Jason used to be with

1875
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 1: Kane all the time, you know what I mean? So

1876
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 1: I did a remix with with um Shy and jay Z.

1877
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 1: So jay Z was up at my house right. So

1878
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:57,600
Speaker 1: jay Z came into the crib just like when I

1879
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, I thought I was my first time meeting

1880
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:02,720
Speaker 1: and and I said, oh, what's up, nice to meet you.

1881
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 1: I want I wanted to go like this this is um.

1882
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 1: This is not just when it started to leave, just

1883
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 1: when it started prom I did um just just when

1884
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 1: Rocket Fell started rocking and he was able to get

1885
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 1: he was able to hire him to get on records.

1886
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like just just when

1887
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:25,560
Speaker 1: it was coming maybe ye around that time. So he

1888
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 1: comes to the crib right, I said, so nice to

1889
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 1: meet you, by by He said, Yo, man, you met

1890
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 1: me before. Man, I've been here before. I still right

1891
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 1: here when King was doing soon so soon. So that

1892
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 1: ship sucked me up. Wow, that ship sucked me up.

1893
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 1: That came was at the creber. I mean that that. Yeah,

1894
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 1: jay Z was at the crib. We came from maybe

1895
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 1: Young Gifted the Black or something one of them joints,

1896
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I would like to

1897
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,720
Speaker 1: know he was a rapper then, but I didn't know.

1898
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 1: But that's like one of those stories like I wouldn't.

1899
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't have its that bold if I

1900
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: knew he was a rapper. Okay, So I didn't want

1901
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 1: to ask you what's your favorite artists? Because I know

1902
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, lose you your favorite hip

1903
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 1: hop artists? Who's your favorite hands down number one overall?

1904
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 1: If you had to pick one artist, just one, full package,

1905
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 1: full package, just one, whether it's to work with or

1906
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 1: whether it's to to listen to. Um, Yeah, let's go

1907
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 1: back to that one. I'm thinking about that little it's

1908
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 1: my all time the overall artists who got it. But

1909
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, opened a lot of doors

1910
01:47:56,560 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 1: for me production wise, and it was more than just

1911
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: making a beat for somebody to rhyme. More could have

1912
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 1: been Kane, you know, because I've seen him a form

1913
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: into what it was. We're just doing hardcore ship first.

1914
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 1: Then then the ladies started liking him, the female started

1915
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 1: liking him, and then it just switched. He started you know,

1916
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 1: it changed it to something different. And I said, you know,

1917
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: and it made me grow as a producer. But you know,

1918
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:25,759
Speaker 1: came change. He changed me as a producer because before

1919
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 1: that I was just giving people whatever I want them

1920
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 1: to have with the Juice Crew here year you got

1921
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 1: that ship, Oh Chanta, you can get that. You cant

1922
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 1: have that. You got that. Kane was different. So you're

1923
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,679
Speaker 1: saying right now, if God said, listen, Marl, you're gonna

1924
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:43,599
Speaker 1: be straight for the rest of your life, you got

1925
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:47,760
Speaker 1: one beat to produce for one artist. I already know

1926
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 1: what ha to be right now. Who would have to

1927
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 1: be talk lu goddamn it makes him more would like

1928
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, but so gonna say, listen, this

1929
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: is the little last bit you can make it in

1930
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 1: the world. You're going straight for the rest of your life.

1931
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 1: But he did that already. This is it. You'll get

1932
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 1: one last That's what happened, and you will give it

1933
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 1: to you will give it to al Yeah, and that

1934
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 1: kind of happened already because I don't believe how we're

1935
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 1: living off that. Soon. You don't believe it's good. It's

1936
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 1: gonna be on the Chase. It's gonna be on Chase

1937
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 1: commercial um for the next few months. Right. But you

1938
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 1: know Deadpool too, Wow, wow, working on the soundtrack for

1939
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 1: Deadpool three. Possibly, Come on, bro, you know you believe

1940
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 1: where that that little angle got me. It's it's really different.

1941
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 1: It's beautiful thing. It's beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Hip Hop saves lives,

1942
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:56,680
Speaker 1: hip Hop say his last real hip hop says, is

1943
01:49:56,720 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 1: it is there anything? Um, you will want to like

1944
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 1: you feel like you got left in the game. Um,

1945
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: the game could be the game in the game. For me,

1946
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,640
Speaker 1: the game is lane. I'm doing something different, but the

1947
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 1: game is like go ahead, you know, um what I

1948
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: would like to do. Any music supervisors checking this out,

1949
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:19,719
Speaker 1: you know, I want to I want to score movies.

1950
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 1: You know. I scored like a few scenes for Biggie's movie.

1951
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 1: But um, as you can tell, you know, they had

1952
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 1: had me and missed me. They let me actually do it.

1953
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 1: But um, even in Pops movie, I had like a

1954
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 1: scene or two that we did it for. So I

1955
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 1: would rather get into doing scenes for movies and making

1956
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 1: stuff for movies and theatrical or something like that. I mean,

1957
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 1: the music is good. I'm good with the pub pub

1958
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 1: right now. The public. The public is good, Okay, I

1959
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 1: mean the public. I mean, my earlier records don't really

1960
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:54,560
Speaker 1: make pub but you know the popular ones do and

1961
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. It's it's good. It's like we don't

1962
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: have four oh one K and pop. But if you

1963
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:06,800
Speaker 1: got your should to be honest, publishing is that I

1964
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: just didn't get your ship. You could get a good

1965
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 1: record and then you you'd be surprised. Yeah, it's very

1966
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 1: because it's almost you know, it's crazy, because to be honest,

1967
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 1: if Kanye didn't do that and I didn't have pop,

1968
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 1: it would be a whole different story. If you understand

1969
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's different. It's a different story. Pup

1970
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 1: is important. Anybody out there even wanted to make records,

1971
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 1: make hit records. Okay, mother, we gotta take off a shot.

1972
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 1: Tiger bonus the tradition on the show it's got sorry

1973
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 1: for like this is the second quarter we're gonna do.

1974
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 1: It's not a lot. You know. What's so terrible I've

1975
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,720
Speaker 1: wished because Tiger doesn't not go with the one does

1976
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't know anything though, It doesn't go with the

1977
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 1: one just bust it down? Were bust it? Yeah? Yeah,

1978
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate yours. I think it was well overdue though,

1979
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 1: because you know, yeah, I seen a lot of you know,

1980
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of misconceptions about Molly mall out there

1981
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 1: for years, for years, I've been just letting people yap

1982
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 1: and talking. So we quite dude sitting in the back,

1983
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,519
Speaker 1: we're just watching it. But we got was one of

1984
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:15,439
Speaker 1: the misconceptions of Marty Mall that you think that happens

1985
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 1: out here. Um. One of the misconceptions, because one everybody

1986
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 1: always thought you on cold chilling. Yeah, anything that was

1987
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 1: was cold chilling, blamed like they always blame. The misconception

1988
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 1: is any artist that ever said, oh, Molly didn't make

1989
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 1: that record, and then they went on to do records

1990
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 1: later and it never sounds like what we did together.

1991
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 1: M That's all I can say. All right, so this

1992
01:52:38,240 --> 01:53:01,679
Speaker 1: is out of I like that. She was good. Yeah,

1993
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 1: never get used to bet yourf put the flame right here,

1994
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 1: come out. So how was it being in the game

1995
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 1: back then? You know, you guys, because the people before you,

1996
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 1: the Mellie males, the busy mens, the peers. I'm not

1997
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 1: but what you can see yourself a godfather because the

1998
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:33,759
Speaker 1: father comes us said father, I've had a game changes.

1999
01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 1: But that is but the pioneerzs the guys that came

2000
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 1: to America first and sloughtered the Indians. But we we

2001
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 1: didn't have to do that. They came to the architects

2002
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 1: because because like you said, like you guys were the

2003
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 1: first like um, he's uh private jets and showing like

2004
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 1: that as opposed to other people was before who was

2005
01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 1: like like they didn't really they said they didn't make money,

2006
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 1: you know, and it was like this is really good though.

2007
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 1: They looked at the cause and and you know, I

2008
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 1: feel like you got your era. You guys are the

2009
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 1: architects of modern hip hop or became modern. Hi the

2010
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 1: change that's going like that because you're right, you know

2011
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:28,840
Speaker 1: they ain't seen niggas at tinter Borrow on two weekends,

2012
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 1: right right, That's that's that's the real talk. That's real.

2013
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 1: And who for those wasn't y'all don't know what tinter burrows.

2014
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 1: That's the private airport. Yes you know what. It's the

2015
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 1: clear port clip board, yes, clear port. You know what

2016
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean. So so we you know, we opened that up. Derek,

2017
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 1: I feel like you want to come over here, brother,

2018
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 1: my cousin, Dirk Deck. That's Jacks. That man. He's a legend.

2019
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 1: He's a legend, man, motherfucker. And you're a legend, law

2020
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 1: And that is what I want. When they tell you,

2021
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 1: let me just tell your mother we hear everybody to

2022
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:17,320
Speaker 1: give our legends they flowers because so many people like,

2023
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 1: we want to give these people they flowers when they

2024
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 1: can smell them, they treats when they hell them, they

2025
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 1: thought so when they could think them, and their drinks

2026
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 1: where they can drink them. So many people want to

2027
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 1: celebrate a hip hop legend. I look at it. It's like,

2028
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 1: you know what, these people need their flowers while they're here.

2029
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, this is the reason

2030
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 1: why people give up the love on the live. No

2031
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 1: way for me to die and say I was the greatest.

2032
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah man. And it's your home where you're welcome

2033
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 1: and anybody doing it. I'm that's all we created this show.

2034
01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: You come up with your movie or your book first,

2035
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 1: because I got a little confused. But I'm working on

2036
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 1: the book to become a movie. But let me just

2037
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 1: tell you it's the jew is it the Juice Crew

2038
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 1: movie that us you should come with first. I'm gonna

2039
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 1: be honest, that's ill. That's the story that the Juice Crew. Like,

2040
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, it's that introduces the Juice Crew

2041
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 1: movie might make more sense. I'm doing all like, like

2042
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 1: that's gonna mess with n w A because you know

2043
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 1: why everybody's still here. The movies that were the people

2044
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 1: that are still here is always gonna be the best movies.

2045
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 1: That's why I would saying, you know, you know, go

2046
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 1: to that. And then I introduced the malim just I

2047
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just just a real fan, like this

2048
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 1: is a real fan and the fan mode. You know

2049
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. I want to do my

2050
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 1: perspective of what I the way I've seen everything. But

2051
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:41,320
Speaker 1: your movie could be called the Juice Crew, right, it

2052
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 1: could be you. I want my movie to be through

2053
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 1: my eyes, why everything was happening, what I was thinking,

2054
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 1: what I was seeing, what I was saying, what everything means.

2055
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 1: You think about it, You're the first riser, like the

2056
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 1: first Daddy, You're the first, you know, the first everybody

2057
01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:02,440
Speaker 1: who like has the first WU tank type of that ship.

2058
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 1: That ship came from you, Like, I'm proud that I'm

2059
01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 1: from Queens, you know what I'm saying, because and I'm

2060
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 1: proud of that. So you gotta capture that ship. You

2061
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: know that Queen. I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna be honest.

2062
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,880
Speaker 1: We're living so much of a dumb era. That. I

2063
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 1: don't know if you shouldn't drop the book first. The

2064
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 1: movie might have to come first because they thinks they

2065
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 1: read it. I'm just telling you he's thinking pros, he's thinking,

2066
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:30,320
Speaker 1: he's thinking so herod out here. That's my cousins out

2067
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:35,920
Speaker 1: here in cocaine on the tables like this is it.

2068
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm getting there, my wrestler friend from from Baro. I'm

2069
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 1: just saying it's easier because he thinks dumb in this

2070
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 1: generation might be easier. I'm sorry, I love you. Get

2071
01:57:53,920 --> 01:58:00,040
Speaker 1: my audio voe again ready too high audioboo audiobook and

2072
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 1: give them a visual because these niggas is like they're

2073
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna be like that. I ain't gonna I don't want

2074
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 1: a vote right now. I don't know. My thing is

2075
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:10,000
Speaker 1: just dumb. The niggas that fun with me. I don't

2076
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 1: know that. I'm just throwing it out there. I don't

2077
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 1: saying it first to make sure it's it's complete, right. Yeah,

2078
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be honest. Movie, the movie gotta be. You

2079
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 1: gotta answer the show. I'll tell you gonna go right

2080
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 1: with that boy. I'm just telling you that it's easier

2081
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 1: to go. You got favorite and the youth or the

2082
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 1: niggas that funk with us, the niggas that funk with us.

2083
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 1: It's not very smart. I like them. I like, man,

2084
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 1: we're talking like you what, I know exactly who they are.

2085
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't think going with it many. I know you. Yeah,

2086
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I went to ive that. So you've done everything?

2087
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 1: Uh uh? What do you think about other other producers?

2088
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 1: Like and who was the first person that you saw

2089
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 1: like that? You said, Dad, he took my blueprint, but

2090
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 1: in a good way, like you know, like like the

2091
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 1: next I say, Premier ain't premiere because he personally told me.

2092
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 1: He said, yo, nobody beats the bills. Was kind of

2093
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:17,200
Speaker 1: like my blueprint because you scratched, you cut a hook

2094
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:22,240
Speaker 1: from different parts. So Fresh speaks bis Monkey the Star

2095
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 1: to show he's bus mokey, so Fresh you know what

2096
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I took different parts and was cutting.

2097
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:32,040
Speaker 1: I cut the hook and he was like, that was

2098
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:36,640
Speaker 1: my blueprint. Oh now he's saying, it makes sense, you know.

2099
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 1: And then the other than that was he cut the samples,

2100
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:41,400
Speaker 1: like the samples like right, he would scratch the samples

2101
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:44,000
Speaker 1: to make the hook, and you know, and he said

2102
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:45,680
Speaker 1: he said he first heard that or nobody beats the

2103
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:49,879
Speaker 1: BIS and I'm like, Okay, that's a that's a big honor. Secondly,

2104
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 1: I would say, um, p Rock, I mean p Rock,

2105
01:59:56,120 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean the way he took sampling on on on

2106
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 1: the your machine and equipment that he was using was incredible.

2107
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 1: And the things he was able to do off of

2108
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 1: those little five seven seconds it became incredible. By speeding

2109
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 1: the record up, putting it in fast, and then slowing

2110
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 1: it down getting more sample time. I never thought of that.

2111
02:00:16,120 --> 02:00:19,040
Speaker 1: That's almost as dope as Flash with the back spin

2112
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 1: on three revolutions for you know, three level revolutions forward,

2113
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:27,880
Speaker 1: three level revolutions backwards. That's genus. Instead of picking the

2114
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 1: needle up and and and recording it fast and small

2115
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:36,880
Speaker 1: sampling time and then slowing it down, that's genius right there.

2116
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 1: Nobody gives him his credit for that. The last record

2117
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 1: you could produce that you you could be a part

2118
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 1: of that. You you're not gonna produce. You got one

2119
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:53,160
Speaker 1: producer to high hoos y mall get to do it.

2120
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:58,840
Speaker 1: The last b would mix it. Kanye, I thought you

2121
02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 1: were gonna say that here, man, he's dope. You know

2122
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:07,120
Speaker 1: what you got? You got overlooked like the last year.

2123
02:01:07,720 --> 02:01:12,280
Speaker 1: That's dope. But because but but you know it's production

2124
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:15,880
Speaker 1: and and what he did with sampleman and then started

2125
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:22,440
Speaker 1: pitching things up and can you say, yeah, it's super.

2126
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:27,360
Speaker 1: He took that ship out of this world from what

2127
02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 1: I started, if you know what I mean. I brought

2128
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 1: her heir, he brought it hair. Wait what are we

2129
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:36,720
Speaker 1: talking about their fluid again? In the flu so what

2130
02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:39,320
Speaker 1: did you just think? I'm so I didn't will be

2131
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:41,920
Speaker 1: that person that makes that last final record for me

2132
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:45,160
Speaker 1: if it was ever to be made, Wow, I would

2133
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:46,960
Speaker 1: let let him do it and I'll mix it down.

2134
02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:50,440
Speaker 1: That's gonna happen now for drink champions happen, not his

2135
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:57,320
Speaker 1: last wack. This and this new generation. Who is a

2136
02:01:57,400 --> 02:02:03,760
Speaker 1: person that you would work with a new generation the

2137
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:08,640
Speaker 1: future future? Quick? I hear you with Kendricks to Ke Kendrick,

2138
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:13,880
Speaker 1: Ja Cole easy to j Ken already I would lace

2139
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:17,880
Speaker 1: righte at least that would be ho ship. I want

2140
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 1: to I want to do CNN David History. Yeah, yeah,

2141
02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta talk about Rker's Allen. That's what

2142
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because um, I just want I want, I

2143
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:36,840
Speaker 1: just want the fans to know. Um how much of

2144
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 1: a fan I am of you, and what you was

2145
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:41,720
Speaker 1: doing is you know, he was living at a time

2146
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:43,920
Speaker 1: where I could have sampled the record and I could

2147
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:45,960
Speaker 1: have still paid you just from sampling the record, but

2148
02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:48,440
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that. I actually wanted to

2149
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:51,040
Speaker 1: go back in the studio. I wanted to recreate it,

2150
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:53,280
Speaker 1: and I had g Rap. I did. We did everything.

2151
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't remember g Rap came to the crib that

2152
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 1: day or if he came later, but I came, I

2153
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 1: went in with you. Is this h I was. We

2154
02:03:02,080 --> 02:03:04,480
Speaker 1: did it correctly. You know, it's so weird to me

2155
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 1: and him. We did a lot of records together, but

2156
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 1: we didn't work together a lot until then. Who you know,

2157
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 1: me and you. Okay, you get a lot of records together.

2158
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:16,360
Speaker 1: Like I was like remixing this for y'all, do this,

2159
02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:18,840
Speaker 1: and this is me on my own right. But now

2160
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:21,680
Speaker 1: he came back, He's like, yo, I got this check

2161
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:23,880
Speaker 1: for you. You know, it's the crazy ship. I gotta

2162
02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 1: say before I get up out of here. A lot

2163
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:29,080
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's I put on. The niggas never cut me

2164
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:35,160
Speaker 1: a check when they got on. Bitch, ask niggas a

2165
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:39,240
Speaker 1: lot of motherfuckers I put the funk on, and you know,

2166
02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 1: they got they got any position and they act like

2167
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, the niggas never cut me a motherfucker check,

2168
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:51,400
Speaker 1: so funck y'all n get love with that. He got

2169
02:03:51,440 --> 02:03:54,920
Speaker 1: in position that came back with the check, and I

2170
02:03:55,000 --> 02:03:59,760
Speaker 1: saw niggas want classic because I loved breakers. I was

2171
02:03:59,800 --> 02:04:01,720
Speaker 1: so much and when I went into the research and

2172
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:03,680
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, it was you Andy Wrap. I wanted

2173
02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:05,600
Speaker 1: to be honest with you both. You know what I'm saying.

2174
02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:07,840
Speaker 1: So I got in a position to do do such

2175
02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:09,400
Speaker 1: and I wanted to do it. I wanted to do

2176
02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:10,840
Speaker 1: it on my own too, because a lot of times

2177
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:13,680
Speaker 1: we worked before it was through trash and I wanted

2178
02:04:13,680 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 1: you to know, like I cool, it was kind of

2179
02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:17,720
Speaker 1: limited to Yeah, it was because he wasn't around a lot.

2180
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah it was around. No, no, no, no about I

2181
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:25,040
Speaker 1: wasn't Yeah, I wasn't there. Yea, he wasn't. It didn't

2182
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:27,480
Speaker 1: invite me to that session. I've been taking that personal

2183
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:32,360
Speaker 1: for years. Don't worry about that. It's not your big

2184
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 1: thing up. You know, I love him. I speak to

2185
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:35,640
Speaker 1: Compone all the time. Trash, you know what's going on,

2186
02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:39,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, man, I just love the history. I just

2187
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:41,320
Speaker 1: love what you did tonight, man, you know, because a

2188
02:04:41,360 --> 02:04:43,120
Speaker 1: lot of people don't hear you talk. A lot of people,

2189
02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'd be silent, man, you just watching these mothers. Yeah,

2190
02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:51,000
Speaker 1: but we live in the day at the time. If

2191
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 1: if if you don't actually say, like, if it ain't

2192
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:56,120
Speaker 1: on camera, it didn't even happen. That's why I'm head.

2193
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying it ain't happen. So well, you got this platform,

2194
02:04:59,720 --> 02:05:06,440
Speaker 1: yes man, madness like so many people like I just

2195
02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:08,760
Speaker 1: I just think that that's a disrespect to our culture

2196
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:13,880
Speaker 1: when people like the wine listen, listen, one is not

2197
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:17,400
Speaker 1: good unless the ages. You understand what I'm saying, Like,

2198
02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:19,880
Speaker 1: we can make a wine right now that is gonna

2199
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 1: be full of sugar, It's gonna be full or whatever.

2200
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 1: But let let's just sit around for ten days, you know,

2201
02:05:24,920 --> 02:05:26,720
Speaker 1: and then do that and then you you get to

2202
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:29,720
Speaker 1: see an age and there's no platform for that for

2203
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 1: our culture. So me and my my, my, my friend

2204
02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:35,360
Speaker 1: right here, we sat here and said, you know what,

2205
02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:37,760
Speaker 1: let's just and we're gonna do it like that. We

2206
02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:40,000
Speaker 1: want to salute our legends. We want to salute the

2207
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:42,520
Speaker 1: people that who has been seasoned who's been here for

2208
02:05:42,640 --> 02:05:45,440
Speaker 1: twenty years and still the test of time, it's still here.

2209
02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:50,160
Speaker 1: And every other culture in the world salutes their legends

2210
02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:53,080
Speaker 1: at this time, at this point, Why the fun are

2211
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 1: we the only culture that it says, Okay, you got y'all,

2212
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:01,920
Speaker 1: got y'all, you got up. You know the radio stations

2213
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:04,120
Speaker 1: and all that, but this is our platform that we

2214
02:06:04,240 --> 02:06:06,640
Speaker 1: want to salute our motherfucker legends, you know what I'm saying,

2215
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:14,600
Speaker 1: And we don't want to do it. Why they come

2216
02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:16,760
Speaker 1: on when people is that that's not let's do it

2217
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:19,800
Speaker 1: in your face. You know that you're on the way

2218
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:22,360
Speaker 1: to cats getting the casket before you telling me what

2219
02:06:22,520 --> 02:06:25,880
Speaker 1: it is, because you know, sometimes in life, to be honest,

2220
02:06:26,040 --> 02:06:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what the most dishearteness thing is

2221
02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:34,000
Speaker 1: about the whole industry that I feel is discredit somebody.

2222
02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:36,360
Speaker 1: You know, you put in work, you change the game,

2223
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 1: and somebody's gonna trying to discredit what you're doing and

2224
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:43,960
Speaker 1: going with it histor ahead and history around. You know,

2225
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 1: you don't be seeing you don't be seeing me on

2226
02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 1: all these awards shows and all that like you should,

2227
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:54,440
Speaker 1: because somewhere somebody's trying to write around me. That's why

2228
02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:56,520
Speaker 1: my story got to be told. That's why I appreciate

2229
02:06:56,760 --> 02:06:59,760
Speaker 1: you guys doing what you do, but I appreciate this platform.

2230
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 1: Know your story should be told. It has to be told.

2231
02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 1: It's what I mean, Um, you know, me just even

2232
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:08,760
Speaker 1: seeing that this is just a little rock said thing

2233
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:12,680
Speaker 1: and then me knowing I'm just saying, uh, it's just so,

2234
02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:15,680
Speaker 1: it's just so much that needs to be I'm saying

2235
02:07:15,680 --> 02:07:18,320
Speaker 1: everything you said to me just now. I saw it visually,

2236
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:21,240
Speaker 1: like I literally saw it, like when you said you're

2237
02:07:21,320 --> 02:07:25,800
Speaker 1: just the Queen's Bridge Department alone, just on those records,

2238
02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:28,200
Speaker 1: like if you're a hip hop storian, and you know

2239
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:31,320
Speaker 1: those records that you just said, and you mentioned that's

2240
02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:34,000
Speaker 1: that alone is a movie. Bro. No, that that alone

2241
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:38,160
Speaker 1: is crazy because no one would never know this. You

2242
02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:41,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Every everyone everyone thinks that a

2243
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:45,760
Speaker 1: hit record is playing, you know, sixteen months in advance.

2244
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know. It's just it's the

2245
02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:50,040
Speaker 1: spirit of the moment of the time. And that was

2246
02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:52,320
Speaker 1: the testament of what you just said and the craziness.

2247
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:55,360
Speaker 1: A lot of artists don't even know why they're famous,

2248
02:07:56,760 --> 02:07:58,520
Speaker 1: and that's the truth. They don't know why the fun

2249
02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:00,800
Speaker 1: they're famous. They think they put out of high record,

2250
02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:04,680
Speaker 1: but motherfucker used the promotion of the month and and

2251
02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:07,480
Speaker 1: and it clicked. People started to like it. Because the

2252
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:09,960
Speaker 1: next month he wasn't the promotion of the month, somebody

2253
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 1: else was, and the next record didn't work the way

2254
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:14,280
Speaker 1: that mean did. So a lot of artists don't even

2255
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:18,240
Speaker 1: realize why the funk they famous, because you know how

2256
02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:22,400
Speaker 1: record companies work when we promote this week, but I

2257
02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:24,560
Speaker 1: don't give a funk with this artist guy we promoting him.

2258
02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:27,640
Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of people don't realize that

2259
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:30,480
Speaker 1: they happen to be in that matrix at the minute,

2260
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:33,600
Speaker 1: because I've seen too many superstars try to make records

2261
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:36,240
Speaker 1: not in the matrix and it doesn't work. I know

2262
02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:40,720
Speaker 1: why exactly every record, every successful record I ever made,

2263
02:08:40,760 --> 02:08:44,440
Speaker 1: I know why it worked. There's certain elements you need

2264
02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:46,600
Speaker 1: to make it work. That's maybe that's why I won't

2265
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 1: make records now, because there's certain elements you need. And

2266
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:54,200
Speaker 1: now it's algorithms right that too, but you know, a

2267
02:08:54,280 --> 02:08:59,040
Speaker 1: certain elements you need. You know, artists need the ability

2268
02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 1: to make people want to be then unlike them. I

2269
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:04,960
Speaker 1: like what he's wearing. I want to wear that. You

2270
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:06,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's not just a record no more.

2271
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:10,120
Speaker 1: It's a little more to it. Anybody can make a

2272
02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:12,720
Speaker 1: high record, but do you have the ability to make

2273
02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:16,360
Speaker 1: people like you? Do you have that energy to pull

2274
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:19,320
Speaker 1: him in? Even if you make wax ship? Why do

2275
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:23,040
Speaker 1: people like Drake He ain't the best in the world,

2276
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:27,920
Speaker 1: but he has an energy that pulls you in. Why

2277
02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:30,640
Speaker 1: do people like Kanye or jay Z or what whoever?

2278
02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:33,640
Speaker 1: It's not the music. They have an energy that pulls

2279
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:38,040
Speaker 1: the people in. So it's more than the music. People

2280
02:09:38,080 --> 02:09:41,280
Speaker 1: got to realize that it's more than music and kind

2281
02:09:41,320 --> 02:09:44,440
Speaker 1: of always been more to music. Yeah, yeah, you know,

2282
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 1: if you if you that fly cat, everybody want to

2283
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:48,480
Speaker 1: dress like him, look like and where what you're wear

2284
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:52,000
Speaker 1: like Quam Quam wasn't the illness, but when you're seeing

2285
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 1: qualm with that poker dots, I wouldn't got a poke

2286
02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:58,560
Speaker 1: a dot shirt. There you go, hold on little that

2287
02:09:58,720 --> 02:10:06,000
Speaker 1: left right, Definitely, I have sixty one that's it. Took

2288
02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:12,880
Speaker 1: it off, came back so um. But basically that's what

2289
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:16,840
Speaker 1: it is. You know, it's there's a magic, there's music,

2290
02:10:17,480 --> 02:10:20,560
Speaker 1: and there's there's also that that energy to pull people in,

2291
02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:23,880
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, certain certain artists have it.

2292
02:10:24,080 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 1: Certain people have that. You know, people watch this because

2293
02:10:27,680 --> 02:10:30,280
Speaker 1: you have that. You know, I want to hear what

2294
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:32,800
Speaker 1: the fun that, nigga? We're gonna say that. Look you

2295
02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:34,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I wouldn't hear that ship. So

2296
02:10:35,240 --> 02:10:37,760
Speaker 1: you're pulling them in, y'all pulling them in. So there's

2297
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:40,120
Speaker 1: a certain energy. It's more than what you do. It's

2298
02:10:40,160 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 1: that energy to be able to pull people in, because

2299
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:45,000
Speaker 1: anybody could do this. But if you don't have the

2300
02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:49,600
Speaker 1: energy to make people want to love, fuck you. And

2301
02:10:49,720 --> 02:10:52,400
Speaker 1: that's the that's the basic. That's that's just how it is.

2302
02:10:53,680 --> 02:11:02,080
Speaker 1: Is there anything Yeah? Is there anything you would want

2303
02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:06,920
Speaker 1: to do over anything? I would like to do over whatever?

2304
02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:11,400
Speaker 1: When I would do over anything, I would like to

2305
02:11:11,480 --> 02:11:16,280
Speaker 1: make kill that noise over damn? What would you do

2306
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:19,360
Speaker 1: differently on that? Yeah? I probably would use different drums.

2307
02:11:19,960 --> 02:11:21,760
Speaker 1: I probably use the drums that we just winning on

2308
02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:28,080
Speaker 1: because they went with my drums the same way. So

2309
02:11:28,160 --> 02:11:32,080
Speaker 1: I would probably would make kill that noise with in

2310
02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:35,800
Speaker 1: peace the President drums the same way they did with

2311
02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:39,080
Speaker 1: bridges over. That's what that's what I would would do

2312
02:11:40,040 --> 02:11:42,800
Speaker 1: if I could turn back the hands of time. Because recently,

2313
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, me and Shan got together. We we redid

2314
02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:51,480
Speaker 1: the bridge and um and um kill that noise over well,

2315
02:11:51,680 --> 02:11:53,840
Speaker 1: you know for movies and stuff. You know, we made

2316
02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:56,800
Speaker 1: new masters. We got back together. I got the original

2317
02:11:56,880 --> 02:11:59,000
Speaker 1: samples that I use, and we re chopped everything up

2318
02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:01,480
Speaker 1: and he did his vocals over wow, and and then

2319
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:04,840
Speaker 1: I was sitting back, would would kill that noise? And

2320
02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:08,880
Speaker 1: I swipched, I switched the drums up. I put in

2321
02:12:08,920 --> 02:12:11,720
Speaker 1: piece to president drums and kill that noise. That ship

2322
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:14,000
Speaker 1: was so motherfucking hot. I was like, yeah, this is

2323
02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 1: what I should have didn't begin. But I had so

2324
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:20,600
Speaker 1: much stuff that I didn't rely on my old sound

2325
02:12:21,600 --> 02:12:24,080
Speaker 1: like that because I was moving on. And but but

2326
02:12:24,160 --> 02:12:26,960
Speaker 1: I wish I would have used those drums. Don't kill

2327
02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:30,160
Speaker 1: that noise. Do you feel like y'all y'all lost that battle. Well,

2328
02:12:30,720 --> 02:12:33,760
Speaker 1: I feel that people stupid as health were believing in

2329
02:12:33,800 --> 02:12:37,840
Speaker 1: them because we never said that and for the record,

2330
02:12:37,960 --> 02:12:40,640
Speaker 1: never said hip hop. They never said that hip hop

2331
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:43,960
Speaker 1: started in Queensbury. So I feel like people got bamboozo

2332
02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:47,440
Speaker 1: but you know, so good. So that was like the

2333
02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:55,720
Speaker 1: first trolling. Yeah, like the first smart on that part. Yeah,

2334
02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:58,440
Speaker 1: don't do that because they you know, it's it's like

2335
02:12:58,960 --> 02:13:02,840
Speaker 1: they preyed upon people stupidness. At that point, it looked

2336
02:13:02,840 --> 02:13:05,480
Speaker 1: like that if it's on record and strength, right, if

2337
02:13:05,480 --> 02:13:07,680
Speaker 1: they played on the stupidness of are you believing in

2338
02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:11,880
Speaker 1: that ship because we never said it? It's like somebody like, yo,

2339
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, somebody like somebody said you said something. You

2340
02:13:14,600 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 1: know you ain't say it. But you know, whoever gets

2341
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:20,240
Speaker 1: over in man, may people may believe that ship. But

2342
02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:23,400
Speaker 1: if you don't say nothing. Now where was your at

2343
02:13:23,840 --> 02:13:27,200
Speaker 1: where you found out? Prodigy just pass it? Oh? Man?

2344
02:13:30,680 --> 02:13:33,400
Speaker 1: I think I was in Japan. Uh, Yeah, I was

2345
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:36,160
Speaker 1: in Japan. You know, if you know, I'll go overseas

2346
02:13:36,160 --> 02:13:40,480
Speaker 1: a lot um. And I always checked, you know, the internet.

2347
02:13:40,480 --> 02:13:42,720
Speaker 1: When I wake up and I saw it, I was like, Yo,

2348
02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:46,520
Speaker 1: get the funk out there because because the weirdnesses I

2349
02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:49,680
Speaker 1: had just hid in the work with the XPG a

2350
02:13:49,760 --> 02:13:54,080
Speaker 1: few days before a few days before he passed. I

2351
02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:55,960
Speaker 1: think the show before he went to I think he

2352
02:13:55,960 --> 02:13:58,720
Speaker 1: went to Vegas. That show before Vegas, he was with us,

2353
02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:04,760
Speaker 1: he XPG uh and and we were taking pictures laughing

2354
02:14:05,160 --> 02:14:07,760
Speaker 1: joking blah blah blah. And after they did that, down

2355
02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:10,040
Speaker 1: went to Japan and then they went to where they

2356
02:14:10,160 --> 02:14:12,560
Speaker 1: was gone, and then I saw it was like so

2357
02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:14,920
Speaker 1: crazy because we I just two pictures would do but

2358
02:14:15,680 --> 02:14:18,600
Speaker 1: like two days before. But it was crazy to me,

2359
02:14:19,240 --> 02:14:24,840
Speaker 1: that was crazy, and I felt that he won't be

2360
02:14:24,920 --> 02:14:29,560
Speaker 1: the last one. That's more, you know, you know, it's

2361
02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:32,160
Speaker 1: there's more. People are gonna pass. We don't live forever.

2362
02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:37,200
Speaker 1: And you know the good thing about you know, hip

2363
02:14:37,240 --> 02:14:39,720
Speaker 1: hop and being an artist, it's whatever you do when

2364
02:14:39,760 --> 02:14:43,840
Speaker 1: you're alive, it lives longer than you You know, we

2365
02:14:43,960 --> 02:14:46,160
Speaker 1: won't be here no more. When people still be playing

2366
02:14:46,200 --> 02:14:50,320
Speaker 1: our music, still talking. You know, we're still live after

2367
02:14:50,440 --> 02:14:53,000
Speaker 1: we're not here. And that's the one of the benefits

2368
02:14:53,040 --> 02:14:56,000
Speaker 1: of being an artist. And you know, it was kind

2369
02:14:56,040 --> 02:14:59,560
Speaker 1: of sad because because I just was with dude, I

2370
02:14:59,680 --> 02:15:03,880
Speaker 1: just win, just just was with him like two days

2371
02:15:04,360 --> 02:15:10,280
Speaker 1: before everything happened. God bless him, God bless him family.

2372
02:15:10,920 --> 02:15:19,080
Speaker 1: That's the Peace Prodigy. Yes, we still keep making them beats.

2373
02:15:19,160 --> 02:15:22,120
Speaker 1: We need you out here for Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, man,

2374
02:15:22,280 --> 02:15:24,040
Speaker 1: you know we don't let it, don't let it slow

2375
02:15:24,080 --> 02:15:27,000
Speaker 1: you down. You know what I mean when um, now

2376
02:15:27,040 --> 02:15:30,880
Speaker 1: as did the bridges over the bridge, I'm not over

2377
02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:36,280
Speaker 1: skipped to the bridge? Uh? What was it? He had

2378
02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:38,760
Speaker 1: put all the artists from Queen's Bridge on there? Okay

2379
02:15:39,160 --> 02:15:42,040
Speaker 1: remember that? Did uh? Did you do to be or no?

2380
02:15:42,280 --> 02:15:45,640
Speaker 1: He just sampled it? Um? I think was it l

2381
02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:47,920
Speaker 1: E s? I think maybe somebody else made the beat.

2382
02:15:47,960 --> 02:15:50,320
Speaker 1: But I was on the record. I was on the intro. Okay, cool,

2383
02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:52,560
Speaker 1: that's what happened. I was. I was part of that, right,

2384
02:15:52,600 --> 02:15:54,600
Speaker 1: I was part of ms been looking out, I got

2385
02:15:54,640 --> 02:15:56,640
Speaker 1: in front. But you know what I mean, we're from

2386
02:15:56,720 --> 02:15:59,000
Speaker 1: two different errors. But you know he always look out,

2387
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:01,680
Speaker 1: you know what saying? Always and you always show love

2388
02:16:02,160 --> 02:16:04,680
Speaker 1: every time I see him, So you know, you know,

2389
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:07,840
Speaker 1: like I said, when the torch was passed, they did

2390
02:16:07,880 --> 02:16:10,920
Speaker 1: a great job with it. What I'm saying beautiful with

2391
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:13,240
Speaker 1: the music business. With me, I'm not thinking about it.

2392
02:16:14,120 --> 02:16:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm on. I'm on technology right now. I got technology

2393
02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:20,000
Speaker 1: that's going to change the world. What you mean, come

2394
02:16:20,040 --> 02:16:25,240
Speaker 1: on talking changed the world that Steve Joy thinking about? Yet?

2395
02:16:25,680 --> 02:16:30,440
Speaker 1: You know man, that of the average with music in life.

2396
02:16:31,240 --> 02:16:36,280
Speaker 1: H m h, I got the answer. Cat, you have

2397
02:16:36,400 --> 02:16:43,119
Speaker 1: some information? Yeah, yeah, panted, but you know we're working

2398
02:16:43,160 --> 02:16:45,520
Speaker 1: on some technology right now. Well do your thing, man,

2399
02:16:45,680 --> 02:16:48,120
Speaker 1: do the thing. I can think about putting hip hop

2400
02:16:48,200 --> 02:16:52,160
Speaker 1: and it goddamn machine and changed to change hip hop.

2401
02:16:52,440 --> 02:16:54,320
Speaker 1: I could do a lot of other things. Well, hell

2402
02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:57,200
Speaker 1: you you know what I'm saying. Hell yeah. See me personally, man,

2403
02:16:57,280 --> 02:16:59,520
Speaker 1: you know I'm on the quest to have hip hop

2404
02:16:59,600 --> 02:17:03,199
Speaker 1: control all aspects of media. Like to me, I don't

2405
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:05,720
Speaker 1: think that if we should wake up in the morning

2406
02:17:06,080 --> 02:17:08,160
Speaker 1: and we want to watch a sports show, I think

2407
02:17:08,200 --> 02:17:11,160
Speaker 1: that sports shows to be hosted by Jada Kiss. I

2408
02:17:11,240 --> 02:17:13,680
Speaker 1: think whenever we want to go watch a weather show,

2409
02:17:14,160 --> 02:17:17,440
Speaker 1: that ship should be hosted by Kim Jones. That's what

2410
02:17:17,560 --> 02:17:19,480
Speaker 1: I think. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, so

2411
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:21,880
Speaker 1: I want to That's why I'm doing this because I

2412
02:17:21,959 --> 02:17:24,640
Speaker 1: just feel like hip hop it's about time we control

2413
02:17:24,680 --> 02:17:26,959
Speaker 1: all media. And what I mean by that because hip

2414
02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:29,879
Speaker 1: hop is his own race. It's not I ain't talking

2415
02:17:29,959 --> 02:17:32,320
Speaker 1: the black white I'm talking about hip hop and hip hop.

2416
02:17:32,640 --> 02:17:34,160
Speaker 1: So this is the reason why we're doing you know

2417
02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:36,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, And we're haven't a goddamn fun doing it.

2418
02:17:37,000 --> 02:17:39,560
Speaker 1: We want to respect people like you and continue to

2419
02:17:39,640 --> 02:17:41,920
Speaker 1: respect people like you let you know you got this outlet.

2420
02:17:42,200 --> 02:17:44,480
Speaker 1: It's why the funk open and this is drink chance,

2421
02:17:44,520 --> 02:17:52,080
Speaker 1: motherfucking pop. I feel like you got. I feel like

2422
02:17:52,120 --> 02:17:54,480
Speaker 1: you got one more thing you want to say. If

2423
02:17:54,520 --> 02:17:56,120
Speaker 1: anybody want to get in talk with me, that's um

2424
02:17:56,280 --> 02:18:00,320
Speaker 1: at Molly skills okay on Instagram, Okay, DJ all him

2425
02:18:00,360 --> 02:18:02,120
Speaker 1: all and you know Facebook stuff. You know if I

2426
02:18:02,200 --> 02:18:04,560
Speaker 1: have all these skills on Instagram and and Twitter, you

2427
02:18:04,600 --> 02:18:06,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That your boy ship, you know

2428
02:18:06,760 --> 02:18:09,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And he investors that want to get

2429
02:18:09,480 --> 02:18:11,240
Speaker 1: some real money get at me because I got that

2430
02:18:11,320 --> 02:18:17,000
Speaker 1: technology for that ass absolutely sign that um nondisclosure. You

2431
02:18:17,080 --> 02:18:19,360
Speaker 1: know we're up on that, but you know we're there.

2432
02:18:19,800 --> 02:18:22,160
Speaker 1: That's what I do, man. The music, the music thing

2433
02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:24,360
Speaker 1: is gonna be what it's gonna be. Let these young

2434
02:18:24,440 --> 02:18:26,560
Speaker 1: kids do what the funk they want to do, because

2435
02:18:27,680 --> 02:18:30,720
Speaker 1: that's how I feel, to nothing, to doing nothing, to

2436
02:18:30,720 --> 02:18:32,560
Speaker 1: do what the funk they want to do, because it's

2437
02:18:32,560 --> 02:18:35,760
Speaker 1: only evolution, you know what I mean. And let's have

2438
02:18:35,800 --> 02:18:38,560
Speaker 1: a good day, that's all it is, and think freely.

2439
02:18:38,680 --> 02:19:07,680
Speaker 1: That's real talk to drop from yeah s