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Speaker 1: welcome new new week. Welcome to a new week of

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Speaker 1: one Bill slide presented by Collad of Health. Hi everybody,

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Speaker 1: I'm John Murphy and hello Steve Tansker. How are you doing, Stevie?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing Gray Burp. How was the weekend? Anything I

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Speaker 1: It feels like we just got off there, doesn't it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a long day Friday, but it was productive.

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Speaker 1: Bill's got to have a draft picks done. It was

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Speaker 1: I mean, they got and you know, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: Other than the draft, what did you do the rest

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Speaker 1: the bottom of this hour twelve thirty Kelvin Bell defense,

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Speaker 1: of Toledo, Reggie Gilliam, outstanding blocker, special team standout, Steve,

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Speaker 1: if you got something to say about any of these guys,

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Speaker 1: jump in. I don't know that. Well, he's a guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a great blocker, and we'll see if he can

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Speaker 1: if he can get on this. He's a tight end

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Speaker 1: slash fullback. We'll see happ see if you can compete

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Speaker 1: with our boyd DeMarco for a spot on the club. MARKL.

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Speaker 1: Harrolde offensive lineman from university to almourn thirty one career

435
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Speaker 1: starts with Auburn, mostly at left guard. So some depth

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Speaker 1: for the offensive line from Mark El Harrold. Defensive Back

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Speaker 1: Josh Thomas from Appalachian State, two year captain, thirty starts

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Speaker 1: over a couple of years. Apple Legend State defensive back

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Speaker 1: Josh Thomas added to the Buffalo roster. Cornerback Ike Brown

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Speaker 1: from Florida International made twelve starts with flu this past year.

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Speaker 1: Running Back Antonio Williams played two seasons at Ohio State

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Speaker 1: before joining the Tar Hills for two seasons. In his

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Speaker 1: time at both schools, Hi State and North Carolina, ran

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Speaker 1: for eleven hundred and forty four yards and eleven touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Antonio Williams, running back joines the Buffalo Bills you know

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Speaker 1: anything about the MC. I don't know, but I would

447
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Speaker 1: say there's a guy who probably left Ohio State because

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Speaker 1: he wanted to get on the field. And let's say

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Speaker 1: Ohio States are if there's it's crowded over there. They

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Speaker 1: got a lot of great players. And I think this

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Speaker 1: is a guy who went to University North Carolina thinking, man,

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Speaker 1: I want to I want a chance to play, and

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Speaker 1: they said you'll get on the field here, and that's

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Speaker 1: why he went there. I um, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: love getting to get a chance to see him play. Um,

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Speaker 1: no question. He the reason he's he's on the field

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Speaker 1: or at the University of North Carolinas because he was

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Speaker 1: not getting the playing time that he wanted and he

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Speaker 1: didn't feel good about it and went to Union UNC

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Speaker 1: and they put him on the football field. And Tonio Williams,

461
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Speaker 1: running back reportedly signed a fridge and contract with the Bills.

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Speaker 1: UM from Florida Atlantic University, offensive lineman Brandon Walton uh

463
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Speaker 1: just started twelve games as a senior from Penn State.

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Speaker 1: Safety Garrett Taylor, who at eighty four tackles last year

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Speaker 1: for the Nitney Lions, and another offensive lineman from University

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Speaker 1: of Washington. Trey Adams, UM who was hurt. Um, and

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Speaker 1: he was hurt a lot at University of Washington. Um.

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Speaker 1: If he's if he's healthy, he could be a pretty

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Speaker 1: good addition free agent signing. Yeah, ty, Trey Addams was

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Speaker 1: considered maybe a one or two day pick in the

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Speaker 1: first three rounds of the NFL Draft. Then he had,

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Speaker 1: you know, some injuries and that set him back and

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Speaker 1: he ended up not getting drafted. I mean, the guy

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Speaker 1: six eight was three hundred and eighteen pounds. Um. He's

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Speaker 1: big dude, but obviously he's his injuries held him back.

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Speaker 1: But he's not very fast. I mean, he ran a

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Speaker 1: forty like five six and it took him a week

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Speaker 1: and a half to run the forty. But playing tackle

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Speaker 1: seems like he's displayed some skills that got people really

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Speaker 1: interested in him before he was derailed by his injuries.

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Speaker 1: So he's gonna be a guy. When you go out

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Speaker 1: if training, if everything was normal and the Bills go

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Speaker 1: to training campus Saint John Fisher, you're gonna see Trey Adams.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna stand out because he's a big dude, all right.

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Speaker 1: So those again not confirmed by the Bills, those are

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Speaker 1: the undrafted free agents reportedly signed by the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: So you have seven draft picks and those eight undrafteds.

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Speaker 1: I think there's still a couple of roster spots Celefty,

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Speaker 1: but I haven't seen a total number yet. Maybe Brownie,

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Speaker 1: you'll have that. Let's take a phone call or two.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Derek and Buston. Although Derek are on

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Speaker 1: the air. How you doing, guys? Hey? If I contreat

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Speaker 1: with the pick of T Bass, there as a kicker

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Speaker 1: coming out of the Georgia here are either there? You

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Speaker 1: know many coaches have attempted to try and decide to

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Speaker 1: go for it inside forty yards thirty five yards now

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Speaker 1: instead of kicking, and then they relied on their kickers

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Speaker 1: if they've got one, to use him for the forty

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Speaker 1: to forty five to fifty to fifty five yard kick.

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Speaker 1: Just a different philosophy. Do you think if T Bass

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Speaker 1: makes this roster that McDermott would be one of those

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Speaker 1: guys to perhaps use that philosophy where the mid range

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Speaker 1: field goal now becomes the fourth and go for it

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Speaker 1: and the longer field goal now becomes the play. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Steve, whyn't you handle that? I have some thoughts,

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Speaker 1: but let me hear who you think, Steve Well, they

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Speaker 1: can do it anyway they want, and all that stuff

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Speaker 1: will be considered, believe me. But they're gonna it's gonna

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Speaker 1: come down to the game and the guys and how

510
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Speaker 1: good they think everybody is at their job. If they

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Speaker 1: think Tyler Bass can can pop a fifty seven yard

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Speaker 1: or they'll give him the chance to do it, particularly

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Speaker 1: if it's the right spot in the game. If they

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Speaker 1: want to keep him on and just let him kick

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Speaker 1: touchbacks all day, they may do that. But it'll come

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Speaker 1: down also to Stephen haushkeff he comes back to camp ready.

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Speaker 1: If he comes back and has a great priest season,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty hard to sit Stephen haush

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Speaker 1: you down. But I don't think the kickers and then

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Speaker 1: going forward and they're not going forward. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it has as much to do with the kickers as

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Speaker 1: it does to do with the probability of picking up

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Speaker 1: with your offense and which defense you're playing. That has

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Speaker 1: more to do with it than maybe you don't think

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Speaker 1: your kicker can make it. It's a good answer. Let's

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Speaker 1: take a call from Jacob in North Buffalo, Hello, Jacob,

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Speaker 1: you're in the air. Hey how are you guys? First

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Speaker 1: of all, I'm to thank you guys for continuing to

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Speaker 1: do what you do during this time. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't particularly enamored with how the draft played out,

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Speaker 1: particularly because I was not a fan of Epin that's

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Speaker 1: going into the draft. I personally like he was actually

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Speaker 1: picked by the Patriots Josh Mcha, but since the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver class is so deep, that was kind of more

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Speaker 1: something that I was leaning to a as as good

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Speaker 1: as a good pick up. Particularly, I was enamored with

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Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis, the one from UTF, the third rounder, and

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss is also intriguing. But other than that, I

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Speaker 1: was kind of over underwhelmed, sorry with the draft, with

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Speaker 1: the dav class and uh, you know, specifically because I

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Speaker 1: didn't understand how currently in the current way that the

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Speaker 1: league is shaking out, how a GF and has a

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Speaker 1: power and could make an impact in uh in the

544
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Speaker 1: league versus the way that most pass rushes now then

545
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Speaker 1: get the bread, get the bread and butter of the

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Speaker 1: defense by a speed and low low pass rush speed

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Speaker 1: over the edge. So I was wondering what your thoughts

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Speaker 1: in that would be Jacky. He makes some good points

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Speaker 1: As far as wide receivers in the second round spot,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were alive and chosen before they got

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Speaker 1: through the Bills pick, including the guy that I was

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Speaker 1: hoping they get a crack at, and they never really

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Speaker 1: had a crack at M Chase Claypool. Yeah, because he

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Speaker 1: was drafted. I'm guessing I think it was three or

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Speaker 1: four picks ahead of Buffalo. Yeah, four picks at one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 1: five picks before the Bills did so. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is the draft deep at wide receiver is

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Speaker 1: a twelve deep at right wide receiver? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think after a while the Bill said, man, those

560
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Speaker 1: are all the second round grades we had on wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Let's go somewhere else. What do you think, Steve, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's it. I think they had the guys

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Speaker 1: that were not there. They had well, guys like a

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Speaker 1: Japanessa were rated higher. Maybe a handful of other guys

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Speaker 1: they had rated higher than any of the receivers that

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Speaker 1: were left after the first whatever you said, forty nine

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Speaker 1: or ten or twelve whatever. However, many wide receivers were

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Speaker 1: off the board. They had other guys that were rated

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Speaker 1: higher than the right wide receivers that were left in Eponesza.

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Speaker 1: You're right, he doesn't fit. He doesn't fit the Jerry

571
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Speaker 1: Hughes von Miller, even the Khalil Mack type of pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: Those guys aren't very big. Epinezza is. He's a big dude.

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Speaker 1: He's six five, two eighty. He's a power rusher with

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Speaker 1: some slipperiness. The one thing that he does have though,

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Speaker 1: he's got some great technique with his hands. He'll be

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Speaker 1: a forced on inside. He can also slide down inside

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Speaker 1: on passing situations, and if he's a power rusher, you

578
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Speaker 1: can put his big body on the interior offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: and three up the guys on the outside of that too.

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Speaker 1: He's versatile. I think that's important. But I'm with I

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Speaker 1: get it. He doesn't fit the mold of some of

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Speaker 1: the guys you can think of in the in the

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Speaker 1: league that are speed rushers. But he's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: good player. Aja Eponeza is gonna be a good player.

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Speaker 1: He may not be the kind of good player you

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Speaker 1: were looking for, but he's gonna be a good player

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Speaker 1: and a productive player. Nonetheless, so I'm I'm I'm good

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Speaker 1: with Eponeza. I think he was highly He dropped a

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Speaker 1: long way in the first two rounds of the draft.

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Speaker 1: I think most of the teams had him as right

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Speaker 1: at late right at the end of the first round

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the second round of the Bills

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Speaker 1: were in the end of the second round, so they

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Speaker 1: got him pretty good. They got him with some value,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna play up to that potential,

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Speaker 1: no question. We're talking more about Aja with his college

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Speaker 1: to his position coach Kelvin Bell will join us when

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Speaker 1: we return. We'll get some insight. We talked to his

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Speaker 1: head coaching college, Kirk Clorrence on Friday night. Now we'll

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Speaker 1: go to US position coach Kelvin Bell when we come

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Speaker 1: back on the show. Come on back. We're just getting

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Speaker 1: started One Bill's Life. We're presented by Kalaida Health Stevens

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Speaker 1: at Home. I'm at home, coming here from home again

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Speaker 1: today and this radio only. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy's team tasker on the line and on the

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Speaker 1: Line with us now joining US defensive line coach for

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Speaker 1: the Iowa Hawkeyes. Aj Epenesa's coach last year with the Hawkeyes,

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Bell joins us. Hello coach Bell, John Murphy here

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Speaker 1: say those deep taskers, how you guys doing had to

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Speaker 1: be on doing great? Great? Did I read this right?

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Speaker 1: You are a Bills fan who actually told Epinett said

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Speaker 1: that the Bills are gonna pick him? Is that is

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Speaker 1: that right? Well? Yeah? Correct? I am a Buffalo Bills fan.

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Speaker 1: Been a fan than the early nineties. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: and yes, uh, I wouldn't say I told AJ that

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Speaker 1: I was gonna that they were going to draft them.

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Speaker 1: It was more like I really wish that they would think. You, Um,

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Speaker 1: what got you into being a Bills fan twenty years ago? Coaches? Um,

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Speaker 1: you know when I started to pay attention to football,

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Speaker 1: the Bills, you know, were they were, they were hot,

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Speaker 1: they were, they were up and coming, and so I

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Speaker 1: just stuck with him. I you know, the personalities on

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Speaker 1: that team, all the Hall of famers that were playing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I really love the offense, love

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Speaker 1: the defense, special team, Steve Pass of the whole nine.

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Speaker 1: So I just stuck with him. Looks good, Wit give

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Speaker 1: us an idea of what the Bills can look forward

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Speaker 1: to and aj Epaneza. I mean, obviously he's a big

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Speaker 1: body dude. I actually had the privilege of watching year

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Speaker 1: Iowa Hawkeyes take on the Northwestern Wildcats in Evans in

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Speaker 1: this past season. You had a number of guys that

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Speaker 1: were really good players. But what can you tell us

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Speaker 1: about Fessa? Um? Just first off, a humble guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I think he's a really good fit,

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Speaker 1: you know for Buffalo. Just a low a low maintenance

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Speaker 1: kid from that regard, but you're getting an extremely, extremely

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Speaker 1: gifted athlete. Um. He was a three three sport athlete

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Speaker 1: in high school, excelled at everything, extremely coachable, guy, wants

640
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Speaker 1: to learn. Probably the most important things to AJ are

641
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: his family is very tight knit family. And second would

642
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: be the opinions of his teammates. Um. You know, he's

643
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: a true team guy that didn't want to let him that.

644
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's not a me guy, a team guy,

645
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: didn't want to let anybody down. But just the ability

646
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: that he had and just you know, just God given

647
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: strength and talent. Um, He's just an exemplary a young

648
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: man on the line. With ajas line coach at University

649
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: of Iowa, before you were there. You were a recruiting

650
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: coordinator for a couple of years Coach Bell, and I

651
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: would imagine Efinessa might not have been the most difficult recruit.

652
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: He told us Friday night, he always wanted to go

653
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Speaker 1: and play football for you aver siate Iowa Hunt, right,

654
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: and that you know I've said this before a bout ajuh.

655
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: You know, he was a five star recruits, which you

656
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: know in right now in college football, those guys there's

657
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: not many five star recruits that are looking at the

658
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: University of Iowa. You know, We've we've got a great

659
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: tradition of offensive defensive line play and got great to

660
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: tradition of putting guys in the NFL. But it's not

661
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: a sexy spot to land for a lot of five

662
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: star recruits. And it was just a perfect match for

663
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: us to get that type of kid because he sit in,

664
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Speaker 1: He sitting in with our culture. Obviously, he's got family

665
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: history with the program, and we're just really excited, uh,

666
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Speaker 1: not only to get a guy his character, of his caliber,

667
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: but the character fit was so important for us. It

668
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: was just a great match. Tell us a little bit

669
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Speaker 1: about when he his development. He was like a third

670
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: down guy his first couple of years there at Iowa.

671
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: This past season, he was on the field every down. UM,

672
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: tell us about his progression from the time you first

673
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: got ahold of him until now as a senior. Is

674
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: a draft pick? Yeah, well, you know, it's not. It's

675
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: hard to transition from high school to college. I don't

676
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: care what position or whatever it is. You know, and

677
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: Aj physically physically, he was absolutely ready to play. But

678
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, are the way that we played defense, Um,

679
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: it's it's it's complicated, it's not you know, we don't

680
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: run around a lot of things. There's a lot of fit,

681
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of u technique that was involved that

682
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: he just didn't have. He had raw ability, which is

683
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 1: why we used him on third down because those are

684
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: situations where he could play fast because he knew exactly

685
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: what he was supposed to do. But you know, again,

686
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: going back to AJ's character, the way that he h

687
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: the way that the older guys in the room really

688
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: gravitated towards it, helped him out, told him what it

689
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: took to be, you know, an Eyowa defensive linement of

690
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: college defensive linement. And he wasn't resistant to that. He

691
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: understood that there were some things that he needed to

692
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Speaker 1: get better at before he could be a full time contributor.

693
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Speaker 1: And you know, just with those older guys helping him,

694
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: you could see him grow a week by week, and

695
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: as a coach, I was more and more confident to

696
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: putting him, put him on the field in more than

697
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: just those past rush situations. And then this year, it all,

698
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: it all came to a head. He just kept getting

699
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: better week after week. In the back half of the season,

700
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Speaker 1: he probably he played his best football for US rely

701
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Speaker 1: on the line with Kelvin Bell, Iowa defensive line coach. Hey, coach,

702
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Speaker 1: what do you think all that production that? What do

703
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: you think happened to a j at the combine? He

704
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: didn't test well, didn't run well, didn't test real well

705
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Speaker 1: at the combine? Any theories on why that happened? You think, Well,

706
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know when I recruited When we

707
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: recruited him in high school, we didn't take the stopwatchdown

708
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: at Edwardsville High School to run him in the hallway

709
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: to figure out whether or not we wanted him or not.

710
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Speaker 1: Like it's you know, when you say don't test well,

711
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: you know, for me, for my evaluation standpoint, when I'm

712
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: looking at a defensive lineman, I'm not checking the forty.

713
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm not checking any of the stop watch. I need

714
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: to wash the tape and then I need to have

715
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: that guy in camp. Ultimately, you know, with the COVID

716
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Speaker 1: nineteen situation, not being able to get him, uh not

717
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: him not being able to have him have a pro

718
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: day where someone could actually, you know, put hands on

719
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Speaker 1: him and see and feel what we experience for the

720
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: past three years. That that that hurts. But from a

721
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Speaker 1: combined standpoint, I can't put my finger on it. All

722
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: I know is, you know, from my evaluation standpoint, we

723
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Speaker 1: don't put a lot of stock in it. We don't

724
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Speaker 1: run a forty at Iowa, so you know I don't.

725
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Speaker 1: I just don't put a lot of stock into it.

726
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: I get you. And I was thinking about how without

727
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: a pro dame, without really their chance to get their

728
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: hands on aj there wasn't much contact that Bill's had

729
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: with AJP, And that's a I think they probably have

730
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: a lot of faith in what you're doing in Iowa

731
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: right as a defensive lineman or other linemen as well.

732
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: The Bills probably fear, well, he's an Iowa d lineman.

733
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: We know what we're getting. Think that was part of it? Yeah,

734
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: I would think so many. You look at the track

735
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: record of the guys who we put in the NFL,

736
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: the Adrian Clayborns, the Mike Daniels, uh, and that's that's

737
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, car cool Christian

738
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: ballad and the list can go on. But you know,

739
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: on the offensive side too, we put in a lot

740
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: of offensive I'm in the NFL as well, And who

741
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: do you think they're going up against every day? Like

742
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: Iron Sharpen's Iron. Like. That's something that we think is

743
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: important here and we feel really good about the product

744
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: that we put on the field, both on the offense

745
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: and defensive side of the ball. Up front, Kevin, I

746
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: gotta ask you, you said, Epenezza, you characterized him as

747
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: a five star athlete with a two star work ethic.

748
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: Did you have to teach him how to work hard?

749
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: Did he get that appetite to be better? Did he

750
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: show up a little bit timid? Or how do you

751
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: give us an evaluation of him? Now? Well, you know

752
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: the thing that he was always willing, That's that's one

753
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: thing he was never never resistant to, never resistant to coaching,

754
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: never resistant to hey, you know, getting getting sued out.

755
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: But again, like I said, there's always an adjustment. The

756
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: high school kid. They all think if you ask any

757
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: high school kid, hey, do you work hard? All of

758
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: them are going to say, yes, absolutely, I work hard.

759
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: But they have no idea what it takes, especially at

760
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: the you know, at the FBS Big ten level, what

761
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: working what working hard is. So that's one thing that

762
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, it was an adjustment for him, is working

763
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: hard just wasn't a Monday thing or a Friday night thing.

764
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: It was an everyday thing. And it goes with the

765
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: way you live your life, both on and off the field.

766
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, but again, he could have came

767
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: in thinking that he had everything figured out. Hey I'm

768
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: a five star kid, I had thirty plus offers. You

769
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: don't need to tell me what I need to do,

770
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: And he was. It was quite the opposite. He wanted

771
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: to learn, he was hungry to learn. And I'm excited

772
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: for him in this situation going to Buffalo because he's

773
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: going to be surrounded by, you know, some older guys

774
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: and I he's just going to continue to soap that

775
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: up and continue to continue to thrive. I'm really, really

776
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: excited about the fit of that place. One area he

777
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: seems to fit. Coach, And we talked to AJ Friday night.

778
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: Was you know, we talked about how he liked hanging

779
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: with his family. Our family was important to him, and

780
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, we're it's different up here in Buffalo, small towns.

781
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: It's kind of a family atmosphere. He might like the

782
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: atmosphere up here, right, He's not looking for bright lights

783
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: or in nightlife. Right, That's that's I totally agree. Um.

784
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: You know, last summer, I was at the Buffalo Bills

785
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: training camp at Saint Lawrence up in Pittsford, and you know,

786
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: I just went up there, got an invite from you know,

787
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: the guy who was on a scout, the area scout,

788
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: and I went and I was just surprised. And I

789
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: know Pittsford is in Buffalo, but just the vibe that

790
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: I got from one of the fans that were there,

791
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: and then too just uh, you know, just the it

792
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a glitz and glam place. It wasn't a real

793
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: big show we place. And I thought, this is not

794
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: just perfect for AJ, it's perfect for our guys. Yet

795
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: I bucker theres there, there's Nick Easley there's Micah Hid

796
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: those are those are Iowa guys and they fit really well.

797
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, it's a perfect culture fit

798
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: for h I think Iowa kids all right. Coach, congratulations

799
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: on producing an NFL second round draft pick, and I

800
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: think it's gonna work out for the Bills. Thanks coming

801
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: on the show with us today. Thanks for coming on, Kelvin.

802
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Go Bills. Thank coach coach Kelvin Bell,

803
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: defensive line coach for the Iowa Hawk guys, the position

804
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: coach for the Bills, Aj Epenessa the last couple of

805
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: years that Iowa recruited him. As we said, Aj told

806
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: us Friday night, there was no question about where he

807
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: was gonna go. Steve at his mindset on Iowa all along. Right, Yeah,

808
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: Kirk Ferentz said, too, Epenesa is such a good player,

809
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: goes this. Epenez is one of those recruits that Iowa

810
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: never gets. And then Kelvin Bell echoed that today. He said,

811
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Speaker 1: those guys never come to Iowa. They always go to

812
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: Alabama or someplace else, you know. But certainly he went

813
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: there and he got on the field very right away,

814
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: and then of course ended up being maybe their bet

815
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Speaker 1: need was absolutely their best pass rush over the last

816
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Speaker 1: three years. So the Bills draft f and s in

817
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: the first round, seven picks at all. How do you

818
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Speaker 1: grade the Bills twenty twenty draft class and why? Give

819
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Speaker 1: us a call to discuss eight o three oh five

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Speaker 1: five zero toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. Can send in a tweet or wrote

822
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Speaker 1: in our twitter poll. We got seven hundred twenty votes

823
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Speaker 1: in already and forty six percent you can give them

824
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Speaker 1: an A, forty seven percent give him a B, five

825
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Speaker 1: percent give him a C, and two percent give him

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Speaker 1: a D or an F. Give us a call to

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Speaker 1: explain eight three fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty phone calls and the tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet when we return. It's one Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalaida Health Radio only today. This is Buffalo Bills Radio

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Speaker 1: or out of a three today with one bill sign.

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Speaker 1: We got Chris Brown coming up at one o'clock a

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Speaker 1: few minutes away and random being the general manager at

834
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Speaker 1: two taking your phone calls eight three fifty total three

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. How would

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Speaker 1: you grade the Bills draft class? Said why I read

837
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Speaker 1: it is ridiculous to grade the draft class team, but

838
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Speaker 1: we all look for it, right when everybody's looking for

839
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: what kind of a grade? Did so? And so I'll

840
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: give the bills. Everybody looks for it, and then they

841
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: read them and they say, oh, how can you drade

842
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: the class before anybody pleads at that? Right, Yeah, that's right.

843
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: Even though it doesn't make any sense, we still want

844
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: to read the grades. We want to say, here's the thing.

845
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: It's just the easiest way to find out, Hey, what

846
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Speaker 1: do you think of the draft? And that's it. What

847
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: do you think of it? And then because you get

848
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: different different opinions, and that's basically what we're asking. I mean, obviously,

849
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: we'll never know the full extent of these drafts until

850
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: all these guys drafted are out of the league and

851
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: you got a totality of their careers. But by the

852
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: same token, you want to know what people think about it.

853
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: We've been talking about this draft for months and weeks

854
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: coming up and who the drills are gonna get, who

855
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a chance at trading in the way

856
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: their twenty second pick, the first pick they get is

857
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: number fifty four. Who's it gonna be you know, we

858
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: want to find out and people want to say, what

859
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: do you think about it? Because we all had our

860
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: had our suspicions and our and our favorite guys before

861
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: it started, and most of us were disappointed that our

862
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: guys went to somebody else or you know where, the

863
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: Bills never got a chance to pick the guy. So

864
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 1: now what do you think? And that's what we're basically asking.

865
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: We ask you to grade the draft. I don't know

866
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: what it's going to look like in the future, but

867
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: you got to have an opinion today because we've been

868
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: talking about it for months. Yeah, take a phone call here,

869
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: Patrick in Los Angeles, Patrick, what kind of grade would

870
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: you give? The Bills? A minus? But that's a solid

871
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: a minus. And I'm also counting Stefan Diggs as the

872
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: first round pick because like in terms of the trades

873
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: and us getting rid in the of you know, Bodine

874
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: and such too, um, you know those guys. But the

875
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: number one thing I wanted to say was I felt

876
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: like we didn't address getting a punter, and I feel

877
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: like the field position is a battle, and I thought

878
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: that the kicker situation is great if he beats out

879
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: Haushka then we just improved the team, and I thought

880
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the draft, we really drafted best player available.

881
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: And then got to death after doing more research on Epanessa,

882
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: huge fan of him at fifty four wouldn't have been

883
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: as much as a fan at you know, in the twenties.

884
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: So I'll leave you that, and then the last thing

885
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: I want to say is Joe Burrow is the same

886
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: age as Josh Allen. Yeah, I know, I saw that

887
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: over the weekend. That's how young Josh he is. Really,

888
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: he's the first overall pick, and he's as old as

889
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo's quarterback going into his third year, two years of experience.

890
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: I agree with you about Epinessa. It's a different look.

891
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: If he comes to the Bills in the first round

892
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: in the twenties twenty two, and he was projected as

893
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: a potential first round pick, You get him at fifty four,

894
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: is good, Steve slid. It makes him me more valuable,

895
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that and that that comes down to

896
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: he very probably was not just on the Bill's draft board,

897
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: but probably the draft board of a lot of other teams.

898
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: Eponesza was probably the best guy sitting there. Um, and

899
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: there's probably some teams just behind Buffalo, who was hoping

900
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo would not pick Eponeszau. But at fifty four, Yeah,

901
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about a guy that even on the

902
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: most conservative draft at analysts, they had him in like

903
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: a pick thirty four this draft as the thirty four

904
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: best best player. And to get him at fifty four,

905
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a great, great pick. Do you link?

906
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 1: The caller was being serious when he said we didn't

907
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: address the putter. Je's I got a kicker. I don't know,

908
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: you really want to say, yeah, I would. Yeah they can.

909
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: Still there's still a lot of punters out there. Yeah, purfew,

910
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: And I'm doing the show. One of the local punk

911
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: gurus brings his guys into to work out inside the

912
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: field house. You know, they ten or fifteen guys in

913
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: there kicking up with the kickers and punters. So there's

914
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: plenty of guys out there with NFL legs. The question

915
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: is can they do it consistently? But the Bills will

916
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: bring in another punter, They'll sign somebody. Yeah, you know what,

917
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: we don't forget or maybe we do, or maybe we don't.

918
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: Kyrie Vedvick is coming to the Bills, and I think

919
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna compete with Corey Bojorquez as a punter and

920
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: a and a long distance kicker, A guy who the

921
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Bills saw actually, what was it the Vikings game when

922
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: he kicked from Minnesota early last season with Kyrie. Bedvick

923
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: is a you know, he's bounced around the league a

924
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: little bit, can kick and punt, and I think he's

925
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: going to be a factor in the competition whenever it

926
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: is trading camp or whenever they start competing for jobs. Yeah,

927
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: they and I missed inadvertently said it was Jake Tyler Bass,

928
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: it was the punter. It was Vedvik That was the

929
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: punter that they had had signed. It wasn't Tyler Bass.

930
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: I said Bass was a kicker and a punter. I

931
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 1: was thinking Vedvick was the punk. Was that? So they've

932
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: got some guys who compete in every single position on

933
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: the roster, every one of them. You know, Yeah, if

934
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: they do it so much competition and and I guess

935
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: this is an unusual year for that. But it will

936
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: be unusual if we don't have a training camp to

937
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: assess this competition, right, I think it'll be bad if

938
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: if and look, the Bills will assess and they'll make

939
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: their decision. But amateurs like us won't get a chance

940
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: to go up there in the press box at Saint

941
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: John Fisher College at the uh what's that called the

942
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: stadium there and watch practice and kind of bounces bounce

943
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: the ideas back and forth. You know, we won't get

944
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: that chance. I'll tell you, I don't think training camp.

945
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: I think it's unlikely to happen. Well, if they don't,

946
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Well, we had there was a little

947
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: bit of anks on our part about how the draft

948
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: would work and how you know, all the player evaluation.

949
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: And you know you didn't hear too much from Sean

950
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: McDermott about that or but I'll tell you this, Murph,

951
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 1: if they don't have training camps in the NFL, that's

952
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: something that we'll get head coach's attention that that will

953
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: be a problem for them, those guys, because that is

954
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: a that is something that they do not want to

955
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: do without. That's that's a football issue that will affect

956
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: how ready they can make their team, and every coach

957
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: will feel it. And that's I think when you'll really

958
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: get some pushback from the football people the draft. You know,

959
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: you heard some guys saying, nah, well, maybe we should

960
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: push the draft back a little bit and not too

961
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: much pushback. But if they don't have training camp, that

962
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: is an issue, and that's a big that's a major deal.

963
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: They'll have some kind of camp. They'll have some kind

964
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: of preseason practice. Will it be open I don't know,

965
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: Probably not the fans and media, probably not, But have

966
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 1: some kind of workouts they have to before they start

967
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: playing game. How long it takes is going to be

968
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: the thing. How long they have are they gonna say, Okay,

969
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: here you go, guys, training camp. You're gonna have two

970
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: weeks and then you're gonna have Week one games. Let's go,

971
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: here's the cutdown dates. Good luck and that you know

972
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: that may be it? Um, I mean that, I'm I

973
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: have no idea. Nobody's even suggested that. I'm just putting

974
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: that out there as a as a as a wild

975
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: probably you know, a wild supposition of what they might do.

976
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: But if it comes to this, Murph, do you push

977
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: the regular season back and do all and have the

978
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: ripple effects of moving NFL games around as opposed to

979
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: moving the preseason around, the preseason loses that conversation. Yeah,

980
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. And they say the schedules should

981
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: be released by May ninth, which is not that far

982
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: away now, right, it's a week from Saturday, and it

983
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: may come before that, may come sometime next week, the

984
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: release of the schedule. Who knows, right, A lot of

985
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: uncertainty about the NFL. We'll get Chris Brown in here

986
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: in a moment to clear up some of the sun certainty.

987
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: All right, Chris bound Bills Inside from Buffalo bills dot com.

988
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: His assessment of the draft is forward, look at what's

989
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: to come next, and your phone calls are welcome at

990
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty outside Buffalo twelve three at

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, we're

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00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: back with more One does Live, presented by Kalat of

993
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: Health from our homes today, not the Seneca studio. This

994
00:48:53,960 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Oh at Steve Flaspers, down down down,

995
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Speaker 1: that's not time all right now and number two of

996
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Speaker 1: the show. Here we go John Murphy and Steam Tax.

997
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: We're going with one bill slide presented by a lot

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Speaker 1: of Health and joining us on the line right now.

999
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: Bill's Insider from Buffalo bills dot Com. Coming up a

1000
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: big weekend, Chris Brown. Hello, Chris, sud be recovered yet

1001
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: from your crazy weekend? Yeah, Sunday was nice. Yeah when

1002
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 1: the draft, Remember when the draft used to be Saturday

1003
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: and Sunday. Yeah, I'm really happy they moved that up

1004
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: and you at least kids Sunday to kind of recover

1005
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: before you're back at it on Monday. You remember when

1006
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: the draft was one day, like a weekday, and the

1007
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: whole thing that was that was fun. I got. I

1008
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: don't fee back quite that far, but yeah, I remember

1009
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: the Saturday and Sunday drafts. Yeah, it was. It was

1010
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: like a twenty four. They just didn't stop. They kept

1011
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: going and going and going. Its two days. They'd start

1012
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: seven am in the morning. Remember the first guy pick

1013
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: would be like seven fifteen, and I think, all right,

1014
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith got picked it like eight in the morning,

1015
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: right really early in the morning. I can't remember. I

1016
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: know he was for a time. I know that, No, no,

1017
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: he everybody knew they were gonna give Bruce Smith. They

1018
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: already talked about it before. But Chris, this was back

1019
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: to the day. I mean when I was in college,

1020
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: people would skip class all day, people wouldn't take off

1021
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: work all day to watch the draft. And what it

1022
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: looked like that back then on ESPN that was you

1023
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: and your buddies, though, Mark, Yeah, that would Syracuse too.

1024
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: I just another day at the office for you guys.

1025
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: Chris Brown is with us. You can give us a

1026
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: call for Chris at eight three five fifty twelve three

1027
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: one eight five fifty two five fifty your thoughts on

1028
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: the draft, Chris. Let's start with our Twitter poll today.

1029
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: How would you grade the twenty twenty draft class? Would

1030
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: you give him an We got four choice. You can

1031
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: give him an A, you can give him a B,

1032
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: you can give the bills a C. Or he put

1033
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: DNF in one category. I did the math. There's about

1034
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: seventeen or eighteen respondents towards twitterpoll who gave him a D,

1035
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: R and F. I want to hear from those people

1036
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: on the call. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna hedge a little

1037
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: bit because I'm like, right between an A and a B,

1038
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: like an A minus B plus somewhere in there. I'm

1039
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: kind of nitpicking with this. I would have liked to

1040
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: seeing him address corner a little earlier than they did.

1041
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: Beyond that, though, I think they did great. I mean,

1042
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: you cannot argue think about it. This way, guys, the

1043
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: Bills didn't have a first round pick in this year's

1044
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: draft and they got a first round talent anyway, that's nuts.

1045
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, I a j F Andessa is a player

1046
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: that has a first round grade. I mean, I don't

1047
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: care any which way you slice it. And you can

1048
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: make the argument that Zach Moss on some team's boards

1049
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: had a second round grade and he slid also. And

1050
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: you have to wonder if the lack of pro days,

1051
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: which did not wear a lot of players the opportunity

1052
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: to redeem themselves after what was maybe a poor combine workout,

1053
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: like aj Epinessa was said to have, Jake from was

1054
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: said to have a poor combine throwing session. You roll

1055
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: all that together and I think the Bills actually benefited

1056
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: from some of these players sliding a lot further than

1057
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: they probably should have, and they were all too happy

1058
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: to scoop him up. Yeah, and that's exactly what Brandon

1059
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: Bean said. I mean, some of these guys because of

1060
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: I think probably because of the the ton of wide

1061
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: receivers that were coming out in this draft and some

1062
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: of the well, some of the surprising guys that went early,

1063
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: like the guy that went to Green Bay Love Jordan

1064
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: Love getting picked up by Green Bay when he did.

1065
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 1: Although he's you know, he's a quarterback and he's pretty

1066
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: well thought of. But you know, going up that high that,

1067
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: you know, everything starts to get dropped down. And then

1068
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: when you get to fifty four, where the bills are,

1069
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: you've already got like a dozen wideouts on the board.

1070
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: If there were only four wideouts in the draft that

1071
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: were worthy of those spots, that leaves eight guys. And

1072
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I was sitting there. Murk and I

1073
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: were sitting there on Friday night and it got closer

1074
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: and closer. We got up into the low forties. And

1075
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: remember I was like, Murf, just sitting We don't need

1076
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: to trade up, just sit tight. Yeah, looking at the

1077
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: guys available, I was like, hey, we got a guy. Yeah.

1078
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: Because I hopped on with you guys that night and

1079
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: I was in your camp a little bit, I was like,

1080
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, you may just be able to sit

1081
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: pat here. With the way this has fallen. There's an

1082
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: awful lot of talent on the board still, and they

1083
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 1: may choose just to stand pat. And I think ultimately

1084
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: that's what they did in the second round, third round,

1085
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: was a little different story because I think again they

1086
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: had a much higher grade on Zach Moss and he's

1087
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: sticking out like a sore thumb on their board. And

1088
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, as Brandon said, he was sweating eighty six

1089
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: out because he didn't think Moss there was gonna be

1090
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: any way Moss was gonna get to him. He figured

1091
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: on other team is going to try to leap frog

1092
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: them too, Right, Chris Brown is our guest. You can

1093
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: ring us in, ring in and let us know what

1094
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: you think of the Bills draft. Chris Um, the combined

1095
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: workouts for epinz were I'm not going to say distressing,

1096
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: but there's enough to get your attention because it wasn't

1097
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: any standout numbers there. And his college coach just a

1098
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: minute ago, Calvin Bell talking about how but we don't

1099
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: test that kind of stuff that anyway. So I don't

1100
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: think he's just peyton a funny picture, a glossy picture

1101
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: over it. I think a lot of the things they

1102
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: test for are meaningless when it comes to defensive linemen

1103
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: in particular forty times right, well, I think it is

1104
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: for the particular skill set that aj ep Andsa possesses.

1105
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: He's never gonna win with speed off the edge. That's

1106
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: not what his game is. And so because of that,

1107
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: if you're an astute general manager, you take the forty

1108
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: time for a guy like that who typically wins with

1109
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: either a technique or be power. You take that for granted. Now,

1110
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: if aj Vanessa had five reps on the bench press,

1111
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: well then there you might be concerned and might look

1112
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: at his tape a little closer, because his game is

1113
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: strength and power, and if he can't demonstrate strength and

1114
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: a bench press, well then maybe it's a little bit

1115
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: more cause for concern. But if he runs a slow forty,

1116
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: I don't think it's catastrophic because he's a guy that's

1117
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: that's gonna knock people off the ball. You know, when

1118
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: you watch his tape and he goes bull rush, I

1119
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: mean you watch the head of those tackles snap back. Yeah,

1120
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's nothing short of impressive. So he is

1121
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: a quality football player in a different way that can't

1122
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: be measured on a stop watch. And you got a

1123
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: credit brand and being in his personnel staff for recognizing

1124
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: that and realizing what a value he was at fifty four.

1125
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about two and I'm not going to

1126
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: call him an old school style defensive end, but he's

1127
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: not as you say. He's not a speed rushure. He's

1128
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: not one of those guys on the edge. He just

1129
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, gets around a tackle and pressures the quarterback. Right,

1130
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: he'll play rushing downs. One draft service had him Listen

1131
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: is the best defensive end when it comes to plane

1132
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: to run. I mean, he's he's an every down kind

1133
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: of player who I think has a lot to offer,

1134
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: if not the dynamic, you know, fifteen sack potential that

1135
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: a speed rusher would, right, I would kind of liken

1136
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: him to a Phil Hanson type. I don't know if

1137
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: he's got better rush skills coming in the door than

1138
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: fill did. He probably does, but he's that type of player.

1139
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's strength, he's going to set the edge.

1140
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: He's got a one arm stad move that's really impressive.

1141
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: So there's a lot in his toolbox that helps him

1142
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: succeed on the field that has nothing to do with speed.

1143
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: And I mean his body type if you look at it, guys,

1144
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: and he said this on the conference call with the media,

1145
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, he tries to model his game after JJ

1146
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: Watt And you say, oh, that's kind of lofty, but

1147
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: if you look at his measurables, he's about the same

1148
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: size um and and has the same arm length and

1149
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: all of that. So his body type is similar. And

1150
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: I envisioned the Bills trying to use Epinessa in similar

1151
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: fashion to the way the Texans do with Watt. Granted

1152
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: it's a different scheme, but you know, they have him

1153
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: outside on early downs, and they'll kick him inside on

1154
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: passing downs, and and they intend to reduce Aja down

1155
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: to the inside. And I was already going through my lineups.

1156
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: Not that I'm the one that's putting them on the field,

1157
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier is, but you think about Mario Addison on

1158
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: the on the left end side, Jerry Hughes on the right,

1159
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: and then Ed Oliver and Aja inside, you know, an

1160
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: obvious passing down. That's a pretty good quartet right there.

1161
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking too. One of the best parts about

1162
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: Epinezza is his production at the college level is evident.

1163
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: But I think the one thing that you can count

1164
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: on Epinesza is the fact that he could play absolutely

1165
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: any situation that comes up in a ballgame. He can

1166
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: be on the field and be productive and be a

1167
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: guy that they have to contend with. I mean, certainly

1168
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: he can. He's a big body in short yardage and

1169
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: goal line and all that. He's a pass rusher as

1170
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: you just mentioned, and I'll tell you too, he plays

1171
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: the run well as I mean. The guy was on

1172
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: the field all three downs at Iowa and led them

1173
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: in tackles for loss one of the seasons at Iowa.

1174
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: So the guy to me, getting him where they got

1175
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: him in the draft, they're getting a guy that that

1176
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be not just a body. He's gonna be

1177
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: a player and then play a really good player in

1178
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: every situation. On your characterization of him is like a

1179
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: Phil Hanson type is and to me is spot on,

1180
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: because he just seems you just want him on the

1181
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: field every chance you get, because he's gonna be a

1182
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: be in the right spot at the right time and

1183
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: be He'll make some plays physically, no question. But he's

1184
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: also going to be a smart guy who's gonna make

1185
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: a couple of plays just because he's so smart, he's

1186
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: gonna put himself in a position and maybe some other

1187
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: guys aren't ready to do. I just think the guy's

1188
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: going to be a quality player in every situation in

1189
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: a football game. I think that's maybe what his biggest

1190
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: strength is. One more thing about Epinessa's Chris and Steve

1191
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah. I just saw I had his best value

1192
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: picks in each round. He's got Epinessa as the best

1193
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. In the second round in terms

1194
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: of value, he had him ranked as the twenty sixth

1195
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: best pick. The Bills got him fifty fourth plus twenty eight,

1196
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: so Yaniel Jeremiah is pretty much of an expert. He

1197
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: says that's the best second round pick in terms of value,

1198
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: and most people did have him going in the first round,

1199
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: late first round. Chris, Yeah, and that's why you trust

1200
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: your board. You spend all year putting your board together.

1201
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: There's no sense in deviating from it when you get

1202
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: to the show. And the Bills have done that over

1203
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: the last three years or so, and they've been real

1204
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: ordered for it. You know, you put in all this time,

1205
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: you put in all this work, You do your due diligence.

1206
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: You have your scouts combing through everything all the way

1207
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: back to middle school in some cases. And this is why.

1208
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: So when an opportunity like this presents itself, you take it.

1209
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: And that's what they did. Chris Brown Bills inside of

1210
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com on the line of US phone

1211
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: lines open eight oh three five fifty toll free one

1212
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We did

1213
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: not get a chance to talk to your Friday. After

1214
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: the Bill selected Zach Moss, running back from Utah in

1215
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: the third round. What's think of that picked, Chris, And

1216
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: how do you think the workload will be split split

1217
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: between Zach mosson Devin Singleton. Yeah, I had before the draft.

1218
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: I put a list together of fifteen players that I

1219
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: thought would be good fits for the Bills, players that

1220
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: I envisioned, you know, coming off the board on day two,

1221
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, the for their top two choices. Zach Moss

1222
01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: was on my list, So I was pretty happy when

1223
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: they took him because we knew that with Frank Gore

1224
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: not back, that the Bills were going to be in

1225
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: the market for a between the tackles downhill, you know,

1226
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: a little bit heavier in stature type back, and just

1227
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: in the tape that I saw of Zack Moss and

1228
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: a couple of other backs, I just thought he made

1229
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: way too much sense for the Bills in terms of

1230
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: the kind of compliment that they wanted to go along

1231
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: with Devin Singletary, So when they took him, I was

1232
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: that might be the pick I was happiest about in

1233
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: the entire draft that the Bills took of their seven selections,

1234
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: just because I think he's a perfect fit for what

1235
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: they want. And the best part is that's not all

1236
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: he is. I had a chance to interview him on

1237
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: one of our streaming calls that we did over the

1238
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: course of the draft, and I said, look, everybody's been

1239
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: asking you what's your running style on this and that?

1240
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: And I said, I want to ask you that. I

1241
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: want to ask you what you think the biggest misconception

1242
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: about your game is. And he said, the biggest misconception

1243
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: is they think I'm just a straight ahead, run people

1244
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: over type running back, and I offer a lot more

1245
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: than that. And if you look at his statistics, it's

1246
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: evident you know, yes, he is a power guy. He

1247
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: welcomes contact, and he loves running over safeties and linebackers

1248
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: for extra yardage and isn't gonna shy away from lower

1249
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: in his shoulder. But this is a guy that when

1250
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: the first crease isn't there on a design run play,

1251
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: he's got the feet to shuttle down the line and

1252
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: look for the whole you know, in the B gap,

1253
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: in the sea gap. You know, he'll he'll look and

1254
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: work his way down the line, or if they string

1255
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: out a stretch play, he's got the feet to kind

1256
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: of cut it back and make something out of nothing.

1257
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: And at the same time, he's got the power to

1258
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: lower his shoulder and just push the pile for a

1259
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: yard or two and not take a loss. But the

1260
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: thing that stood out most to me was and he

1261
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: didn't catch the ball a lot, but when he did,

1262
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: he made plays out in space. I mean, he's got

1263
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: some wiggle to his game where he can shake a

1264
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 1: linebacker and get away and gain extra yardage after the catch.

1265
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: And evidence of that guy's sixteen plays of twenty five

1266
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: yards or more just last season. I mean, did he

1267
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: have the ball in his hands a lot last year? Yeah,

1268
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Speaker 1: he did, but sixteen plays of twenty five yards or more,

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Speaker 1: And again take it with a grain of salt. He's

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Speaker 1: playing in the Pac twelve, where defenses can struggle and

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Speaker 1: aren't super talented, maybe with the exception of his own

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Speaker 1: team Utah, but sixteen plays at twenty five yards or

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Speaker 1: more for a running back is nothing to sneeze at it,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's an indication that he brings a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more than just this pile pushing kind of

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Speaker 1: running back. He's more than that. Yeah, I thought when

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Speaker 1: I saw him and watched some of the highlights of

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Speaker 1: his career and watched how he ran, he and this

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Speaker 1: is the guy I think, I told Murphy kind of

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Speaker 1: reminds me of of Devin Singletary in that his vision

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Speaker 1: is really good. He he sees things and stops and

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Speaker 1: goes really well. He's not explosive, right, He's not. He's

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Speaker 1: not a guy who's snapped off a four three time

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Speaker 1: in the forty. But he's two hundred and twenty three pounds.

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Speaker 1: He's a big dude. It's got great change of direction,

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Speaker 1: and when you're that heavy at that height, there's not

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Speaker 1: much to grab onto, and being able to change direction

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01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: gives him leverage and gives him a weapon that is

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Speaker 1: really going to give him a lot of extra yards

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Speaker 1: after contact and before contact happens. I think his vision

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Speaker 1: and his ability to change direction was really good in

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Speaker 1: the highlights that I saw. Yeah, And the thing that

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Speaker 1: I like is, yes, he was a little nicked up

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Speaker 1: here and there through the course of his career, and

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Speaker 1: that required probably some extra due diligence for every NFL

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Speaker 1: club who's looking at him. But this guy played hurt.

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Speaker 1: He was a leader on his team, and he wasn't playing.

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Speaker 1: I think he gave indication by his decision to go

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Speaker 1: back for his senior year that he wasn't all about

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Speaker 1: the money. Yes, the money is gonna be great, it's

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Speaker 1: going to help his family, sure, but he said he

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Speaker 1: went back to school last year because they missed out

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Speaker 1: on the Pac twelve title. You know, they made it

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Speaker 1: to the Pac twelve title game, lost his junior year,

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Speaker 1: and then he and a lot of his fellow soon

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Speaker 1: to be seniors kind of talked about it and hashed

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01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: it out and said, hey man, let's take one more

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Speaker 1: shot at this thing. And to do that at the

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Speaker 1: running back position, which we know is a position of

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Speaker 1: attrition maybe more than any other in football. For him

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Speaker 1: to say, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: up for my teammates. I am going to go back

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Speaker 1: one more year. Let's try to get this Pac twelve title.

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Speaker 1: I think speaks volumes about the character of the kind

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Speaker 1: of player he is. And what's important to him. What's

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Speaker 1: important to him his team. What's important to him is winning.

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Speaker 1: What's important to him is achievement on the field. And

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Speaker 1: to see that, I think is rarer than some people

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Speaker 1: might realize. We're with Chris Brown Bills inside of Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. Chris, I want to get to the

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Speaker 1: rest of the draft, so I hope you can stick

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Speaker 1: around for a while. Let me start with this. Gabriel

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Speaker 1: Davis fourth round wide receiver Central Florida, and the other

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Isaiah Hodgins in the sixth round out of

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Speaker 1: Oregon State. What's the distinction between those two? Why is

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Speaker 1: Davis fourth round and the Hodgins is a sixth round

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Speaker 1: And what are their prospects to crack this roster at

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver spot. What does it say, by the way,

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Speaker 1: about the Bills that they add two wide receivers after

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Speaker 1: just making a huge trade for or a wide receiver

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Speaker 1: last month. Well, I think here's the thing you and

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Speaker 1: We've had this conversation on your show that while Diggs

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Speaker 1: certainly reduced the urgency to get a receiver on board

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Speaker 1: in the draft, the one thing that the receiving corps

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Speaker 1: was still missing was size and length, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think that was any secret. Now you say, what's the

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Speaker 1: difference between Gabriel Davis and Isaiah Hodgens. Gabriel Davis offers

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Speaker 1: more of a complete skill set because he has vertical

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01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: stretch ability as a receiver. Hodgens is purely a possession receiver.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing that well, there's two things that

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Speaker 1: both of these guys offer Buffalo's receiving corps that they

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Speaker 1: did not have in plentiful supply. First thing is wide

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Speaker 1: catch radius. You're talking about two guys with wingspans upwards

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Speaker 1: of seventy eight inches. You're talking about two guys that

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01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: are six two or taller with long arms. And so

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Speaker 1: we know that Josh Allen is never going to be

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Speaker 1: a pinpoint sixty eight to seventy percent passer in this league.

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Speaker 1: I'll be surprised if he ever gets to that. And

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this too. He gives you extra talent

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Speaker 1: with his legs, with his ability to extend plays, make

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Speaker 1: plays off script. That's where he makes up for not

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Speaker 1: being a sixty eight to seventy percent passer. I think

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Speaker 1: it is pete he'll be sixty four sixty five percent

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Speaker 1: somewhere in there, and I think another nice step this

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01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: year we get to sixty two percent. The people that

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Speaker 1: are going to help him get there are players like

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins and Gave Davis because they make plays outside

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01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: their body frames, so when it's not exactly on the money,

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01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: they're still going to make the play for you. Now,

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Speaker 1: Davis has more to offer because he can run routes

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Speaker 1: at all three levels of the field. Hodgens may sneak

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Speaker 1: behind the coverage once in a while, but he gets

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Speaker 1: separation through double moves. You know, I don't have a

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Speaker 1: trained eye, guys in terms of scouting these players like

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Speaker 1: the personnel department does for the Bills. But I was

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Speaker 1: so excited when Brandon, being on a conference call, said

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Speaker 1: the thing that stuck out about Hodgins was the separation

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Speaker 1: he got on double moves, because that's one of the

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Speaker 1: things I jotted down after watching his tape. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be terribly blind if you could not see

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Speaker 1: the way that he would get separation on double moves.

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Speaker 1: And the best part about that was Hodgens told us

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Speaker 1: on the conference call that he studied Stefan Diggs route

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Speaker 1: running on tape and kind of try to steal some

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Speaker 1: of his double moves from him, to put him into

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Speaker 1: his own game. Well, he must be a really good study,

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Speaker 1: because that might be the best part of Hodgens game,

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Speaker 1: the way he sells people on double moves, because there

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Speaker 1: are times where he's got dbs turning like corkscrews. I

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01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 1: mean they're turning the wrong way and he's catching a

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Speaker 1: ball in the other direction. And here's the other thing

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Speaker 1: that these two guys have in common. We've talked about

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01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean has talked about several times how they

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Speaker 1: need to score more points on offense, and obviously Stefan

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Speaker 1: Diggs is going to be a primary player in that category.

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Speaker 1: These two guys, Okay, Isaiah Hodgins three years, twenty touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis three years, twenty three touchdowns, including twelve last season.

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Speaker 1: These guys are proven point producers at the college level.

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Speaker 1: And while I don't think something necessarily that specific is

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Speaker 1: the reason they were drafted, I'll tell you one thing.

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Speaker 1: It's a bonus to know that those guys know how

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Speaker 1: to stick it in the end zone. And Davis scored

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Speaker 1: a lot of his touchdowns on long passing plays. Hodgens

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01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: scored everything under the sun in the red zone, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a nice red zone target

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Speaker 1: for Josh Allen going forward. Hey, Chris, can you stick

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Speaker 1: with us for another segment? Please? Yeah? Please please, Chris.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. There are interesting other interesting

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Speaker 1: draft guys. The Bills guy in the seventh round draft prospects.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about them, the quarterback, the kicker. When we

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Speaker 1: come back. It's One Goes Live presented by Kalida Health

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Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back one to five.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tansker, and Chris Brown is on the

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Speaker 1: line with US Bills inside from Buffalo Bills dot com.

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Speaker 1: If you have a comment or a question for Chris,

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01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: we've got a few minute left of them. Phone lines

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Speaker 1: open eight o three fifty toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Focusing on the draft today, Steve,

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Speaker 1: you had a question for Chris about the draft. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about getting up to the fourth

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Speaker 1: round and taking a quarterback? I know it was completely

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Speaker 1: off everybody's radar. It's not something that people thought they

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Speaker 1: would do. He's not going to start for the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: but he was the best player on their board and

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Speaker 1: they took him Jake From from Georgia. Yeah. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: a great value that fell in their lap. And you

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Speaker 1: know the way branded Bean takes it. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to look a gift ho ruse in the mouth. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's just made too much sense for them,

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Speaker 1: And it was very talent for me when Brandon being

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Speaker 1: revealed that from or maybe it was from the said this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was from that said it himself in the conference

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Speaker 1: call that he had a one hour zoom call with

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable and Ken Dorsey, the quarterbacks coach pre draft.

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Speaker 1: It kind of served as a thirty visit for lack

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Speaker 1: of a better description, and they just talked football and

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Speaker 1: I think they put him on the board. They ran

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Speaker 1: through some plays, and I think that's where Jake From

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Speaker 1: has the greatest opportunity to impress either a a coaching

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Speaker 1: staff or be a scouting staff, because I was reading

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Speaker 1: up on him before the draft and one of his

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Speaker 1: coaches said, this kid is like a has a thirty

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Speaker 1: one year old brain in a twenty one year old

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Speaker 1: body in terms of football knowledge. And I just think

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Speaker 1: that the Bills envisioned this kid probably as a long

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Speaker 1: term backup quarterback to Josh Allen. The kind of kid

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Speaker 1: that can sit in a quarterback room during a game plan.

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Speaker 1: He can say, hey, you know, I kind of noticed

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Speaker 1: when I was studying film at home over the weekend

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Speaker 1: that these guys like to run this out of this

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01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 1: formation and this down in distance. I think we can

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Speaker 1: get him on this. He's a guy that's going to

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01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: be lending that kind of stuff to Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: to the coaching staff during the week and then on

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Speaker 1: Sundays he's going to be a guy that's saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: look your number two as one on five of the

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Speaker 1: last six place he owns that guy And maybe you

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01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: haven't seen him yet, but you got to look his

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01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: way because he is winning on every single passing down.

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01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: And those are the kinds of things that Jake From

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01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: is going to bring to the table where even when

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01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: he is not on the field physically performing, he's going

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01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: to bring value to your offense for the immediate future.

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Speaker 1: For the twenty twenty season, Chris, what do you see

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Speaker 1: Fram's role is? Do they keep three quarterbacks on the

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Speaker 1: roster then Barkley and From along with Josh, I think

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Speaker 1: they may have to. I don't know if they feel

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Speaker 1: that he's ready to fill that kind of role right away.

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Speaker 1: And I know that the organization has a ton of

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Speaker 1: respect for what Matt Barkley has brought to the quarterback

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01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: room in terms of helping Josh's development. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know that that From assumes that kind of a role

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Speaker 1: as a rookie. But I also don't think he's the

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Speaker 1: kind of quarterback that you can just stick on the

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01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: practice squad because somebody's gonna snap him up. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be there will be a lot of

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Speaker 1: tough decisions here going forward in terms of determining who

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Speaker 1: you're fifty three are. Last year they only carry two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: The year before they carry more than that because of

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Speaker 1: the debacle that the quarterback position was due to injury

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Speaker 1: and other factors. They're gonna have a tough decision to

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Speaker 1: make there because I think they value what From can

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Speaker 1: bring long term. But at the same time, you can't

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Speaker 1: leave him exposed on a practice squad. He'll he'll be gone,

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Speaker 1: he won't be here. So if you really think that

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Speaker 1: much of him, you may have to carry three quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and then that may hurt you at another position. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But the simple fact that matters this though, Brownie, they're

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01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: kind of set at all twenty two of their starter

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01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: spots plus their sub packages offensively and defensively, they've got

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01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: some room, I think now with some guys they know

1482
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 1: they can depend on, particularly when they're signing guys like

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01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: Medakevic and aj Klein and all. We got the guys

1484
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 1: from the Seattle guy, Uh, Jefferson, Jeffers, Quinton Jefferson, you know,

1485
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: Mario Addison, Like you said, they Vernon Butler. They've got

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01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: some depth and some quality guys all over the roster.

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01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 1: It's not like they're going to have to keep an

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01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: extra two or three linebackers because they don't know, or

1489
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: some extra or extra corners because they're not sure. They

1490
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: got veteran corners signed, and they drafted a couple of

1491
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: guys that they can are they can be flyers. I

1492
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 1: think this is a roster that if they feel like

1493
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: they want to keep three quarterbacks, they'll do it. They

1494
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 1: found out the dynamics of it two years ago when

1495
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: there was, you know, an injury every other week, so

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01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: I think they know what they need to do if

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: they're going to carry that many quarterbacks. So if they

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01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: want to, I think there's no question this is strong

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: enough roster they'll be able to. How about strong enough

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 1: to carry a kickoff specialist. Yeah, it's all, It's all

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01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: part of it, you know. Think about it. Um, They're

1502
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: they're going to try and hit on all cylinders. And

1503
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: if you can, if you can get to play the

1504
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: percentages and make sure nobody ever returns a kickoff on

1505
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: you the entire season, even in October November, it might

1506
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: be worth it. What do you think of the drafting

1507
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: of Tyler Bass sixth round pick? What do you make

1508
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: of that? Chris? I think that was the main impetus.

1509
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean I saw him at the Senior Bowl just

1510
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: in warmups, and I mean he is just bombing him

1511
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 1: from like sixty five through the uprights. M Granted there

1512
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: wasn't much win that day when he was kicking, but

1513
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: sixty five yards from a five ten hundred and eighty

1514
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: pound silk and wet guy, that's a that's a good leg.

1515
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: So um yeah, so and I And as soon as

1516
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 1: they drafted him, the first thing I did was I

1517
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: looked up Buffalo's touchback percentage last year and they were

1518
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 1: middle of the pack. They were sixteenth in the league

1519
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: fifty eight point three percent touchback percentage. And we heard

1520
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: Brandon being at the season wrap up press conference last

1521
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,759
Speaker 1: January and he said, look, we took a step forward

1522
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: on special teams, but we need to be better. And

1523
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,600
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if that was one of the

1524
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 1: main areas that they were looking at when they were

1525
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: talking about improvement. And this is kind of confirmation of

1526
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: that now bringing him in to at least give him

1527
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: a look and say, you know, this kid had a

1528
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: career touchback percentage of over seventy three percent. One year

1529
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: in his four year career, he had an eighty five

1530
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: point one percent touchback percentage. I don't care what level

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01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 1: of football you're playing in. That's insane. And granted he's

1532
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: playing down in the South. The weather doesn't current turn

1533
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: as cold, ball doesn't turned into a rock, but eighty

1534
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 1: five percent, man, that doesn't happen often. So I think

1535
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: it's something they're going to take a long, hard look at,

1536
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: and not just with him, with Kari ed Vic also,

1537
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: who was gonna I'm just gonna mention that name. He'll

1538
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: have something to say about kickoff and punts. I think

1539
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: right right. And if he shows a consistency to be

1540
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: able to do both of those things, he's the odds

1541
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: on favorite because he's a two for one now right right.

1542
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: I was round Chris Brown joining US Bills Insider from

1543
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot com. Before we let you go, Chris, Uh,

1544
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: we'd had eight names. You may have seen more linked

1545
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: in the Bills as far as undrafted free agents. The

1546
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: names that have been reported, anybody got your attention? The

1547
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: names linked to the Bills for undrafted for rookie free agents. Well,

1548
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: the tackle Adams from Washington Adams. Yeah, he's the highest

1549
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: rank guy of that group, and some people believe in

1550
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,520
Speaker 1: thought he'd be a Day three pick. I think injuries

1551
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: kind of factored into him not being drafted. And again,

1552
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: here's another player who was probably victimized by the COVID

1553
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic restrictions. Maybe some teams didn't get the full

1554
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: medical on him that made them feel comfortable enough. You

1555
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: have to believe with some of his medical that maybe

1556
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: some of these teams said, look, I appreciate you sending

1557
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: me all these scans and all these reports, but we

1558
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: want our own doctors getting our hands on him, and

1559
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: we can't do it, so we don't want to take

1560
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: the risk. And I think that's why a kid like

1561
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 1: Trey Adams slips through the cracks. But as an undrafted

1562
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: it's a worthwhile risk and if he pans out, you're

1563
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: all the better for it. So I think in an

1564
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: undrafted capacity, yeah, it's certainly worth a swing. I don't

1565
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: think he's an overly athletic player, but he's long, he's tall,

1566
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, six eight three eighteen, has a ton of

1567
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: starts under his belt for the Huskies. So you know,

1568
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: if he turns out to be one of the guys

1569
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: that they do in fact sign on the dotted line,

1570
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: well then great. You know they're they're good at picking

1571
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: through the weeds and finding these kinds of players. I mean,

1572
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: Robert Foster's an example. Levi Wallace is an example. That's

1573
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: Levi Wallace. I'm let's let's not. Let's not. Let's think

1574
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: about this for a second. Okay, two years starter at

1575
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: cornerback in the NFL undrafted, I mean, cornerback is not

1576
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: an easy position to play, and they, you know what

1577
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a one year starter at Alabama

1578
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 1: and they, you know, they made it work. But part

1579
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: of the reason that it works, guys, and I know

1580
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: I've beat this drum a lot. Player development, Okay, guy

1581
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: that has tools and they mold him into a player

1582
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: that's capable of starting and not just starting playing well

1583
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I mean, that's where you tip your

1584
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: hat to your organization. Not only do they draft viable talent, well,

1585
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: they find viable talent after the draft, and then their

1586
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: coaching staff proficiently develops them. And that's how you make

1587
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: yourself into the roster that we see the Bills today. Unfortunately,

1588
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: we're missing valuable development time with the coaching staff, now

1589
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and which, yeah, that's a

1590
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: valid point. Yeah, Steam, here's a question for Chris. I think, Well,

1591
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, you get guys like

1592
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: you're right, the player development is the most underrated aspect

1593
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: to this this coaching, this coaching regime under Sean McDermot. Yeah,

1594
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of kudos and deservedly so, forgetting

1595
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: this club to the playoffs two out of the last

1596
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: three years. Two years ago. Remember, and I said it

1597
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: a million times, I'll never stop saying it. He did

1598
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: it two years ago. After a week before the season,

1599
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: people were accusing the team of tanking, and he got

1600
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: that roster into the playoffs. It was. It was as

1601
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: good a coaching job as you'll ever see. But the

1602
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: player development is huge, particularly when he got a guy

1603
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: like this Brandon Walton, the guy they signed from FIU.

1604
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 1: He was an offensive tackle. Then this last season he

1605
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 1: got moved down. He's a guard. He's a three hundred

1606
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: and eleven pound guy, six to four, and he's gonna

1607
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: come in and he'll he'll compete with a guy like

1608
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain just given that competition, a guy with some

1609
01:21:55,960 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 1: athletic ability who you know, may not be a guy

1610
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: who maybe I don't know if he's gonna make it.

1611
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: But by the midway through the season, a lot like

1612
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: we've seen other players, and we saw even highly drafted

1613
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: players on this club, they're different guys at the end

1614
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 1: of their first season than they were at the beginning,

1615
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 1: and it's all about player development. Ed Oliver was a

1616
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: vastly better player Week twelve, fourteen sixteen than he was

1617
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: in weeks zero, two, four and six. Even Devin Singletary

1618
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 1: developed throughout the regular season, and Levi Wallace, Tarren Johnson,

1619
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: those guys got better because as young players. Man. This

1620
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: coaching staff was hammering on him to get a better

1621
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: and they all responded, it's I've got high hope for

1622
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: some of these undrafted rookie free agents. They just signed her,

1623
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: about to sign he before we let you go. Chris,

1624
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: Here's the question I don't think anyone can answer. What's next?

1625
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Where do we go next?

1626
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: What are we waiting for? I guess we're waiting for

1627
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: a schedule soon. I guess the schedule will be the

1628
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 1: next thing on the docket here, and it'll be interesting

1629
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: to see when that comes down. The last we heard

1630
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: was the latest would be May ninth. It could be sooner.

1631
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: I would tend to think they're gonna wait as long

1632
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: as they can due to the uncertain nature of just

1633
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: about everything. But I think that's the next thing on

1634
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: the docket, And you know, I think we'll at least

1635
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 1: here in New York State, we'll probably have an update

1636
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: on whether it May fifteenth things change, or if whether

1637
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: it May fifteenth things are extended. Yeah, well we can.

1638
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: We have the benefit of watching the NBA, the NHL,

1639
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball all handled before the NFL is going

1640
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: to be forced to make any decisions, so they can

1641
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: kind of wait and wait and see a little bit

1642
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: because of the scheduling in the time of the calendar. Hey, Chris,

1643
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: thanks for this. We appreciate your time today. Thanks very much.

1644
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: You got you guys. Thanks Brownie Chris Brown Bills inside

1645
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: of Buffalo Bills dot Com going over the draft picks

1646
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: with us. We'll take a break. What's your thought on

1647
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: the draft picks? Phone lines open the fifty total three

1648
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two, five fifty Come

1649
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: on back one goes line presented by Klaida Health. This

1650
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hey, we have phone lines wide open.

1651
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: If you want to comment on your grade for the

1652
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 1: Bills draft this year, give them an A, B, C,

1653
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: A D or an F eight oh three five fifty

1654
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five

1655
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: fifty Phone lines wide open. See if I made a

1656
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: decision today, I will. I will be reluctant ever again

1657
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 1: to go to go into a store to get what

1658
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: I need. So I'm trying to print stuff out about

1659
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: the draft this morning, realized I was my print cartridge

1660
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: was empty, had no spares at home, and went online

1661
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: through the company office. I don't know if it's deep

1662
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: over max even but and and curbside pickup, I order,

1663
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: I pay, I drive over. They bring out the two

1664
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: cartridges I got four. Bring out the four cartridges to me.

1665
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: Couldn't be easier. I don't I think I ever need

1666
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: to go into a store again. I'm finding out the

1667
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: same thing. I've never been a big online shopper. Yeah,

1668
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 1: but during the early part of this, you know, I

1669
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,440
Speaker 1: was you know how you get caught and you know, forgetting.

1670
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 1: You can't just dart out and get something right. So

1671
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: I just started ordered a couple of things online and

1672
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, no wonder, no wonder, this is

1673
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 1: a thing, right, stuff shows up at your door. You

1674
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: kind of forget your order it and it's at your door.

1675
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: Or in this case, I really needed these. I really

1676
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: needed these cartridges because I had to print up a

1677
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: bunch of draft analysis. But wasn't that hard order online,

1678
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: It's ready in ten minutes, go pick it up. They

1679
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: bring it right out to the car bowl. I don't

1680
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 1: know just the way things might change after the quarantine

1681
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: is over. And speaking of that, the draft, there's a

1682
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: lot I read the Peter King's Football Morning in America

1683
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 1: today and a lot of discussion about the draft weekend

1684
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 1: and how well it went. There were no virtually no

1685
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 1: foul ups technical or otherwise by the NFL, and they're

1686
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: talking about how some aspects of it were should be

1687
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: incorporated into future drafts or interest. For instance, GMS having

1688
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 1: their kids with him was a big hit. You know,

1689
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 1: kids come in and celebrate in high five and hug

1690
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: your dad when he makes a draft pick, and and

1691
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty cool our coaches, I mean,

1692
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: I think that there's got to be a way to

1693
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: incorporate that. It's more of a it was a kind

1694
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,879
Speaker 1: of a great goes out, so that the NFL Draft unplugged.

1695
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 1: It was sort of low key and kind of a

1696
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: family oriented oriented weekend. And I watched the whole thing

1697
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday too. And you know what else that

1698
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,520
Speaker 1: I really enjoy about it that was kind of accentuated

1699
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: more in the atmosphere that we're in, was that they

1700
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 1: got better and more genuine reactions from more of the

1701
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: very top picks us interesting too. Joe Burrow, top pick

1702
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 1: of the NFL draft. Him, his mom, his dad, that's it. Yeah,

1703
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: that's all who was in his house. And usually you know,

1704
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: these guys will throw a big party and all that,

1705
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,480
Speaker 1: but this was much more dude because there was limitations

1706
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: and how many people could be there. But man or

1707
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 1: man if, I love the genuine reaction of these players

1708
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: and mostly even more so their families. When they get

1709
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: picked in the NFL, I think I want more of

1710
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 1: that and less of the red carpet, less of the shows,

1711
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: less of the guy coming into hug Roger down the hallway. Yeah,

1712
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: guys in purple suits dancing the green room. I don't

1713
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 1: need the green The green room is no fund for me.

1714
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: I hate the green room. I want no green room.

1715
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: I want only these guys sitting at their houses, and

1716
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: I want them to react. And I'm you know, because

1717
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: those guys are on they know that they've got to

1718
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 1: answer phone calls, they got to talk to you know,

1719
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 1: they gotta be a pro in that moment and answer

1720
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 1: questions from the club, acknowledge the NFL they got. They

1721
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: gotta answer questions about the teams from the team's PR people,

1722
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 1: about when they were drafted, to, who they're gonna talk

1723
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: to first, what the club wants them to do first,

1724
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: media wise, But the people are around them have no

1725
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 1: such you know I have no such requirements at all.

1726
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 1: So you got brothers and sisters and cousins just jumping

1727
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: up and down. I think that is the absolute best

1728
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: part of the whole thing. I thought it was really cool.

1729
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 1: All right, we got a breakcare and the guy who

1730
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: engineered Buffalo's draft, Brandon being the general manager, standing by

1731
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: the jointless live when we return, come on back for it.

1732
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health Radio Only. This

1733
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Oh a great time, Old Bay

1734
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 1: Steve Plasterer to the zone. Bucks Done, Bucks Done, bust

1735
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: Busto Buffalo over time. I would never created Joe. One

1736
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalaida Health. The Monday after the

1737
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: three day weekend NFL Draft Drammer. If you're a team tasker,

1738
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: joined on the line right now by the man Way

1739
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 1: Junior at all with the Buffalo Bills general manager Brandon B. Brandon.

1740
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 1: That looks like the very place where you were drafting

1741
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: players Thursday, Fridays or not Thursday, Friday and Saturday, right

1742
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: same place. Yeah, I'm in the same seat. That's good.

1743
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: I get We're gonna have to stop asking everybody where

1744
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 1: they're at because everybody's in the same spot all the time,

1745
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: just like Murph and I. Murph has never left his

1746
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 1: kitchen in a month. Brandon, You've been in your in

1747
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: your base for three weeks. Jay Harris is in his

1748
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: living and I have never I haven't left my office

1749
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: in a month and a half. Is we have to

1750
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna be ceased to be at greeting these days?

1751
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: Like where are you at? What you're doing? Everybody knows

1752
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 1: what we're doing. We're not doing anything, Brandon. You had

1753
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: a busy few days though, right, Uh, I want to

1754
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 1: start with this. There were really at least detectable. There

1755
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: were no technical file ups for the Bills or anybody

1756
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 1: else in the NFL. It was it a success in

1757
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 1: that regard? Right? Yeah? I think the league did a

1758
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: good job. I really do you know? This is obviously

1759
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 1: there was a lot of questions, and then going through

1760
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: the mock last Monday, it took you know, there was

1761
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: one snag when it started with one team, but I

1762
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 1: think quickly people got got the hang of it. You know,

1763
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: I think the league, they deserve a lot of credit.

1764
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: You know, I send a couple of them up there

1765
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 1: in email. From our standpoint, it went off with no problems,

1766
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: no hiccups again Dan Evans and did a really really

1767
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 1: good job. He hung around all weekend. I tip trying

1768
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 1: to tell him to go home, but he lives in

1769
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, so it wouldn't have been a far walk

1770
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 1: for him. Well. I got to ask you this too,

1771
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: and you you, as much as anybody is just like us.

1772
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: We all watched the coverage on ESPN, the NFL Network

1773
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: and ABC and the rest. What was there about this

1774
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: year's draft that maybe you think, wow, we should do

1775
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 1: this again. Maybe what we found out that maybe some

1776
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: things work better. Maybe not on your end and the

1777
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: football end of it, but certainly on the broadcast end.

1778
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: Was there anything about this you like better than it's

1779
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 1: been in the past because of the being forced to

1780
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 1: do it a new way? I don't know if I

1781
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: liked it better. I mean, it was different and you

1782
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 1: got adjusted to it. But in the end, you know,

1783
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 1: our guys do a pretty good job in the draft

1784
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: room of understanding where we're out on the clock and

1785
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: when if there's a little bit of chatter Steve um

1786
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 1: as our pitch pick as approaching. Usually they know kind

1787
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 1: of when we get five six, picks out. Everybody just

1788
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 1: remained silent, be ready on your on your p's and q's.

1789
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 1: You know here I didn't, I wouldn't have that. The

1790
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,759
Speaker 1: mute button, Uh works well if the guys are chattering.

1791
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 1: Uh so the mute button was probably my best friend

1792
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: on the three zooms that I had going. Uh if

1793
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 1: I needed total silence, But uh, I don't prefer this, Like,

1794
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, I missed the bonding with the guys and

1795
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 1: gals and you know, everybody to send in the room. Um,

1796
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 1: that was the part. You could do the best you could,

1797
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 1: like we're doing here, but there's you know, that personal

1798
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: day to day interaction you know, uh, the high five

1799
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: and when you know when the when the board falls

1800
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: your way. Um, you know that was kind of the

1801
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: down part of this. And even you know last year

1802
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: after the draft, we sat in the draft room and

1803
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 1: just uh you know, had a few drinks and just

1804
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know, kind of talk through our drafts,

1805
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 1: other people's drafts, what we were excited about and things

1806
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: like that. And so you know, you miss that opportunity

1807
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: to share that moment because the scouts they've they've they

1808
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 1: put so much time, they're the faceless guys behind the

1809
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: scenes here all fall through the spring and they deserve recognition,

1810
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: and unfortunately they had to do everything remotely. R on

1811
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 1: the line with Brandon being the Bills general manager, recapping

1812
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: what went on over the NFL Draft this past weekend, Brandon,

1813
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't need names here, but were there occasions when

1814
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: absent you know, the typical you know, thirty visits or

1815
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: pro day evaluations or face to face contact with draft

1816
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: prospects where there were occasions when you'd said, man, I'd

1817
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 1: like this guy. I wish I knew more about them,

1818
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: but I'm going to play it safe and go with

1819
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 1: this guy on our board. I mean, did you ever

1820
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 1: have to make that tough call? Not during the draft?

1821
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: You know, we went through those scenarios prior to the draft.

1822
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 1: John just just kind of going through all right, you

1823
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 1: know what, we just don't have enough to intel or

1824
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: we're not quite sure, uh you know, we'll dock him

1825
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 1: a little bit, or there's still maybe a few things

1826
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 1: medically that our docks were never able to get their

1827
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: hands on them, So maybe we put them instead of

1828
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: the guy being in the sixth round, maybe we said,

1829
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: you know what, we take a shot on him as

1830
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 1: a priority free agent, but we're not gonna, you know,

1831
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 1: take a draft pick on him. We just don't, you know,

1832
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: it's inconclusive, you know what his medical situation is. So there,

1833
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't that many players though like that. We you know,

1834
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 1: we used the zoom and the FaceTime and the various

1835
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 1: technology pieces that we could to really get to know

1836
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 1: everybody was on our board. And I guess the question

1837
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: is how much diadcaf if it's a medical thing that

1838
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: usually don't know about it and it was something like

1839
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 1: an ACL or something, did how I guess the question

1840
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: is how catastrophic did the injury have to be before

1841
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 1: you just said, you know what, we're taking this guy

1842
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 1: from the third or fourth round, and we're gonna we're

1843
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 1: gonna set him off our We're gonna take him completely

1844
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:54,640
Speaker 1: off our board. Certainly there's a place where if the

1845
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: guy was really, really good, maybe you'd still leave him

1846
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 1: on your board, but take him down. I mean, how,

1847
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, I guess what kind of line do you

1848
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: draw there? How bad does the injury have to be?

1849
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 1: And how far can a guy dropped? Can he go

1850
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: from the first round to no way, we're not taking him? Um,

1851
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: he can if he if if you're really worried about

1852
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 1: his long term, like they're going, I don't know if

1853
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 1: this guy's ever going to be the same player you

1854
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 1: saw in college prior to the injury. If that came up.

1855
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: We really didn't have that this year. I have had

1856
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: that before. But there were definitely cases where, you know,

1857
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: one guy with an ACL wouldn't be back till October.

1858
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 1: So that's a pop guy, you know, not a guy

1859
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: we want to take quite as high. Um you know,

1860
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 1: so you know, docked him, you know, a couple of rounds,

1861
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,600
Speaker 1: and then there was a couple with shoulders and that

1862
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 1: we said, you know what, um, more like dropping him

1863
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: around or so because didn't know if they'd quite be

1864
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: ready for camp or and again our doctors not been

1865
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 1: able to put their hands on him and test your

1866
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 1: they're going straight off of images, which you know, they

1867
01:34:58,120 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 1: did a great job of getting us the best in

1868
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 1: from So uh, it went anywhere from not adjusting a guy,

1869
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 1: a couple of them, we adjusted you know, half around

1870
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: two around and then um, you know, one or two

1871
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: of the acls more than a round. We're live with

1872
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: Brandon being the Bills general manager, recapping this weekend's draft. Brandon, Um,

1873
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,719
Speaker 1: it surprised me. I thought for sure that after sitting

1874
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: out Thursday, you'd be itching to do something Friday, and

1875
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 1: yet you never made a trade the entire weekend. I

1876
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 1: want to salute you. You showed me a different side

1877
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:33,799
Speaker 1: of Brandon b Well. I think, Uh, it wasn't necessarily

1878
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 1: a plan, you know. I really my plan is to

1879
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 1: set the board and let it speak to me. And

1880
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 1: and that's the God's honest truth. Um. Sometimes my lack

1881
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 1: of patience, um, you know forces me to go up.

1882
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 1: And where I get aggressive and lose my patience is

1883
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: if there is a need and I got a guy

1884
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 1: on the board that's sitting out, and you know, I

1885
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 1: did think we you know, it was going to be

1886
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,040
Speaker 1: good to address the running back somewhere in this. So

1887
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: that was the one player that you know, I was

1888
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 1: most aggressively trying to get that. In the end, it

1889
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: worked out nobody. And it's funny the teams right in

1890
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 1: front of us had taken a running back or we

1891
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 1: felt didn't have a need. There was like two or three.

1892
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 1: It was more of those teams about four or five

1893
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 1: or six seven in front of us that I said

1894
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 1: they could take one and then But the problem is

1895
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: I was also worried that people would see, maybe we

1896
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 1: need one and we trade right in front of us.

1897
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 1: So I was willing to give, you know, a late pick,

1898
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 1: even to move up two spots, just to confirm we

1899
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 1: got Zach. But patients paid off and it worked out.

1900
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 1: But honestly, there were guys that, you know, going into

1901
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: Day two that we talked about, you know, that we

1902
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 1: had really high grades on that if they fell far enough,

1903
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 1: we might would get aggressive. But they came off the

1904
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 1: board pretty early, and we still had guys you know,

1905
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 1: very similar to AJ's grade M but just pass Rusher

1906
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 1: being a premium position, you know, we went with him.

1907
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: I gotta ask it, all thirty two teams come out

1908
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 1: of the draft and they feel like they got better

1909
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: because there's some great players coming out of college. How

1910
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 1: difficult was it on day one to see all those

1911
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 1: teams getting better and getting all these great players, you know,

1912
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins picking three guys. I mean, you feel

1913
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 1: like you're just standing there and the whole league is

1914
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 1: passing you by. How difficult was that? And did you

1915
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: know how much solace did you take when you knew

1916
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 1: you had traded your guy for Stefan Diggs. Yeah, you know,

1917
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 1: two part question there. First off Thursday was was gut wrenching, awful,

1918
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. It was painful to sit

1919
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 1: here and watch it. To your point, watch some of

1920
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 1: these teams with multiple first round picks obviously won in

1921
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 1: our division with Miami and knowing that they're going to

1922
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 1: have really some good chances to get better. I just

1923
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 1: had to keep reminding myself that Stefan was our pick

1924
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: and kind of self help counsel through the first round.

1925
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 1: But I was most happiest when the last pick was

1926
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 1: in and could look at the board. You know, I

1927
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 1: looked at it for over an hour and the names

1928
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 1: didn't change, just the scenarios that I was running through

1929
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:09,640
Speaker 1: my head and seeing. Look, kind of looking back what

1930
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 1: teams selected in round one. Okay, they took a wide

1931
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 1: receiver here, so they're probably not gonna take one here.

1932
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 1: They took a pass rusher here, they're probably not gonna

1933
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 1: take one here. Just trying to pick the board. But again,

1934
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 1: we were so far down, being twenty two picks away,

1935
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 1: that you know, I honestly didn't I thought AJ would

1936
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 1: go pretty early Day two, and he continued to fall

1937
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 1: and again, I think he's gonna be a good fit

1938
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: for US LIBE with Brandon being Hey Brandon. We talked

1939
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 1: with Kirk Currentz at Iowa Friday night. We talked with

1940
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,600
Speaker 1: Calvin Bell, who coached AJ on the defensive light that

1941
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: I earlier today, and they both indicated that they think

1942
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,640
Speaker 1: there was something to the fact that AJ is an

1943
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:49,600
Speaker 1: Iowa guy that maybe led you to what if you

1944
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: had any doubts about this combine workout or maybe his

1945
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 1: background and the fact that he dropped so far, but

1946
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 1: maybe the fact that he was from Iowa, which is

1947
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,639
Speaker 1: known for producing NFL caliberlignement, maybe that helped him out

1948
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. Was that part of your calculation? Yeah,

1949
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's a program. You know, Coach Farren's does

1950
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 1: a great job. It's uh, it's run as much like

1951
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: a pro program as you can find. There's uh, there's

1952
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 1: no frills. Um. You know. It's again, I think those

1953
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 1: guys that come from Iowa. UM, you know, I think

1954
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 1: they they come to Buffalo. That's not a big city atmosphere.

1955
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,760
Speaker 1: You're not talking about you know, University of Miami or

1956
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 1: Southern cal or places like that. Um, you know, it's

1957
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: it's farm land and corn and all those other things.

1958
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I think you know, talking to

1959
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 1: aj Uh coming here, he seemed pretty excited about what

1960
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo is and what he knew about it and what

1961
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: he had heard. So, Um, that program, those guys are pros.

1962
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 1: You know. You don't see those guys getting in trouble.

1963
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 1: You know, usually those guys make the most of their ability. Um,

1964
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 1: you look at Micah Hyde. You know, he's an Iowa guy.

1965
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: I believe he's a fifth round pick by Green Bay

1966
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 1: back in the day. And look what he's turned himself into.

1967
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stories of Iowa guys. George Kettle,

1968
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 1: look at what he's doing out in San Francisco. You

1969
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 1: know the tight ends that came out last year. Hockinson

1970
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 1: and Noah Fant. Those two guys had good rookie years.

1971
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 1: So there is a professionalism that I've noticed that that

1972
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 1: comes out of there. Again, we didn't give him any

1973
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 1: extra star points on the board. We grade him as

1974
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 1: he is. But there is a relief knowing what type

1975
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:23,480
Speaker 1: of program he's been around, and think he will assimilate

1976
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 1: well here in Buffalo. And one of the other things

1977
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: you did was you you brought in some wide receivers,

1978
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 1: one six two the other sixty three. They're both over

1979
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds. They're both known for catching and having

1980
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 1: big catch radiuses. Gabriel Davis and Isaiah Hodgins. Yeah, added

1981
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 1: some size to wide receiver. People thought you might do

1982
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 1: that and tell us a little bit or whatever you

1983
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 1: can about Gabriel Davis and Ike Hodgins. So we'll start

1984
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:53,759
Speaker 1: with Davis. You know, really high character, young man, good leader,

1985
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 1: smart noseball. You know, he played down at Central Florida,

1986
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: so a smaller you know, a program, but still you know,

1987
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 1: a very good program he played. H it's weird that

1988
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 1: offense is kind of what came from Baylor. Um why

1989
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw some of the highlights.

1990
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: Wide splits out there, Um, not a full array of routes.

1991
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: That's probably the biggest question mark we had in the

1992
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 1: scouting community is what all routes is he going to

1993
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 1: be comfortable with? Because he didn't run a variety there.

1994
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: You know, you see that in certain college offenses and

1995
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he can't do it. You know, our job

1996
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 1: is is the greatest skill set and part of that

1997
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 1: we look when we watched his combine workout, which was

1998
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 1: more routes than than he's running. But um, in the end,

1999
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: he's a powerful kid. You know, he's strong, good hands. UM,

2000
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:43,640
Speaker 1: a build up speed guy and he's got he's got

2001
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: a vertical when he gets up role and it's not

2002
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 1: that instant gear. But when he gets up to speed. Uh,

2003
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:50,560
Speaker 1: you know he can't get by the defender. And you

2004
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: saw him make plays downfield. Um, I think probably the

2005
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 1: biggest thing will work on when he gets here. He

2006
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 1: was a guy we were going to work out Steve privately, um,

2007
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 1: just to see all what route variations he would be

2008
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 1: comfortable with, you know out of the gate, but obviously

2009
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 1: they got canceled with the pandemic. UM. So we're excited

2010
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 1: to get our hands on him once we can get

2011
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 1: him up here and think he'll fit as a size guy.

2012
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 1: And then and then Hodgens, we had a nice grade

2013
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 1: on him, and he's a big guy. You know what

2014
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:20,559
Speaker 1: for a big guy, he drops his weight. I saw

2015
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: him run probably as many double moves and and set

2016
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,799
Speaker 1: guys up a really good feel of drawing that defender

2017
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 1: in and then whether it was a slant and go,

2018
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 1: uh stop and go just some some variety of routes

2019
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,600
Speaker 1: and best hands in the draft in my mind, in

2020
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 1: the sense of if you just took drop rate, Um,

2021
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 1: I think he had the best drop rate of all

2022
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: receivers in this draft. And and I think he you know,

2023
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 1: back set up with with his play downfield. Both these

2024
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 1: guys can go up and high point the ball h

2025
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 1: even when they're covered, So gives Josh. You know sometimes

2026
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:57,600
Speaker 1: those big guys can you know, if they're going to

2027
01:42:57,640 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 1: get a smaller defender, it'll give him a Josh a

2028
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 1: answers to throw it up and let him go make

2029
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 1: a play. Brandon, when when last season ended you made

2030
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 1: a point of talking about how your offense needed, your

2031
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 1: team needed to score more touchdowns. Both those receivers, Davis

2032
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 1: in the fourth round and Hodgens in the sixth round

2033
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 1: found the end zone a lot like twenty twenty three times.

2034
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 1: How much of a factor was that when you look

2035
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:21,639
Speaker 1: to draft them. Yeah, you know, um, you know, Sean

2036
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 1: made the smurf comment last year about our guys, which

2037
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: was funny, but there is some truth to it. I mean,

2038
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, where we missed some size elements is down

2039
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 1: in the red zone and and maybe some short yardage

2040
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 1: plays where you know, it's hard to uncover because you

2041
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 1: know speed, you can't continue to run out of the

2042
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 1: back of the end zone. So speed only helps you

2043
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 1: so much down there. And when the field condenses. So

2044
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 1: to the point I was making before, it's nice to have,

2045
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, the basketball play to throw it up above

2046
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: the rim and let a guy go up and get it.

2047
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 1: And I think that, well, we've got some vertical stretched

2048
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: stuff we can do with stef On obviously, John brown

2049
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: Cole can work the middle of the field. Now this

2050
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 1: adds uh, you know some size guys that when we

2051
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 1: get in these condensed field conditions. You know, there were

2052
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 1: some times Murph were uh we settled for field goals

2053
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: last year. Back to your comment about touchdowns, that maybe

2054
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,639
Speaker 1: it would give Brian another you know, type of plate

2055
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 1: for to call in the arsenal, we just didn't really

2056
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: have the fade route. Um. You know, as part of

2057
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 1: our repertoire talk, I got one more question to ask you,

2058
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 1: but I wanted to hear about Zack Moss five to

2059
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:32,280
Speaker 1: nine running back. Give us, uh, give us a look

2060
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 1: at you know what you have him graded out obviously,

2061
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,720
Speaker 1: and tell us about the run up to picking him

2062
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 1: and also what you think of him. Yeah, so zach

2063
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 1: Is is a Miami, Florida type kid. So you don't

2064
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 1: see a lot of guys go up from h from

2065
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 1: South Florida to Salt Lake City. That's not the but

2066
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 1: he went there, and my understanding, I went out there

2067
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,639
Speaker 1: and uh this fall and watch them practice and watch

2068
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 1: the tape out there and just kind of saw, um,

2069
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, talk to there people. You know, they had

2070
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 1: quite a few guys um come out in this draft.

2071
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, that safety was drafted right in

2072
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: front of Zach by the Eagles. But um, you know,

2073
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: one of the things they said about him was once

2074
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 1: he got adjusted to the life of Salt Lake City

2075
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 1: versus there, he really became a pro and and uh

2076
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 1: really was a guy. He's not gonna be a raw

2077
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: rod type leader. He's just gonna show up every day

2078
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 1: and that's what he does as a player. Steve Um,

2079
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a pounder, he's a bruiser. Uh,

2080
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna hit it up in there. Uh. He can

2081
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: run those those wide stretches one cut. But he's also

2082
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 1: can run that gap scheme you know, you know, right

2083
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 1: off guard Ralph tackle and so Um, we look for

2084
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 1: him to be a great compliment to motor You know,

2085
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: I think motors shiftiness, uh is a nice piece to

2086
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:48,560
Speaker 1: have for us. But I think you still need that physicality,

2087
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 1: the role that Frank Gore played for us last year.

2088
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: I think he'll do this. This guy's got good hands.

2089
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 1: Utah used him more in UM kind of flares and screens.

2090
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 1: UM not feel but uh, you know, Devin will probably

2091
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 1: be our first guy out on third down to catch

2092
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 1: the ball. But Zach can do it. He understands pass protection.

2093
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,599
Speaker 1: He's not a throwaway in there in the past game

2094
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 1: our guests is Brandon being the Bill's general manager Jake

2095
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 1: from quarterback Georgia fifth round pick Brandon. I guess it's

2096
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 1: a two part question. What kind of a what kind

2097
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 1: of a role do you see him playing in his

2098
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 1: first year? And then maybe down the line. I mean

2099
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 1: there will be some development. I think will he play

2100
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 1: a different role a couple of years from now than

2101
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 1: he will this year? You know, I don't know. UM.

2102
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 1: You know, the later you go in the draft, it's

2103
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: about adding competition, depth and competition, and that that's the goal.

2104
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:42,759
Speaker 1: As you get down here. Rarely are you gonna find

2105
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Speaker 1: starters out of the gate down here. It's nice when

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Speaker 1: you do. But you know, first off, we didn't set

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Speaker 1: out to draft the quarterback. I've said that a couple

2108
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 1: of times. But you set your board and you honor

2109
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 1: your board. And when a guy's sticking out like that,

2110
01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 1: quarterback is the most premium position there is, uh, in

2111
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Speaker 1: all of sports, and definitely in football. And so when

2112
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 1: you got a guy with a good grade, um, unless

2113
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 1: you just don't have a spot for him, uh, you know,

2114
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,400
Speaker 1: you take a shot on him. And so that's what

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Speaker 1: this is. And here's what I know about um Jake.

2116
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 1: He's very smart. He's a winner. If I was gonna

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01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 1: put one word by him, he's a winner. He came

2118
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 1: in Uh, he'son um you know who ended up transferred

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Speaker 1: to Washington. You know, he came in there and beat

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01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 1: him out and won that job. And he was a

2121
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: big time recruit. And then they go win the national

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01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 1: championship and uh then Justin Fields, who will come out

2123
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 1: next year, who's now transferred to Ohio State. He held

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Speaker 1: him off. I mean, Uh, this guy's just he's a leader,

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01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 1: he's a winner, he's very smart. Um, he is a

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01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 1: coach on the field, type, very cerebral. When I was

2127
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 1: at Georgia this fall as well. Uh, they just they

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01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 1: raved about this guy's work ethic, that he gets his

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Speaker 1: schoolwork done. But uh, once you know, he's not there

2130
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: to you know, trying to think about his his career.

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01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 1: He's thinking about and now like he's gonna play until

2132
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:03,680
Speaker 1: he can't play. And this guy's probably gonna be a

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Speaker 1: coach someday. That's just how he's wired. And they're like,

2134
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 1: it's nothing to see him walk out of these football

2135
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:11,680
Speaker 1: offices at eleven twelve at night. Uh, he just he

2136
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:14,560
Speaker 1: loves ball and so Murph, he'll come in here and

2137
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:19,760
Speaker 1: he'll compete with Davis, Webb and Barkley. But he'll have

2138
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 1: a challenge on his hands with this offseason, you know,

2139
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 1: as far as how much he's gonna be able to

2140
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 1: learn and do that. If you want to knock him,

2141
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, I gave you all the positives if you

2142
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 1: want to knock him. Uh, you know, he's not as tall,

2143
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 1: you know as Josh. You know, things like that. He

2144
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 1: doesn't he's not a six five guys, you know, just

2145
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 1: under six two, and he doesn't have a howitzer arm

2146
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:40,920
Speaker 1: or anything like that. He'll have to prove that that

2147
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,640
Speaker 1: he can play in these elements. But um, he'll be

2148
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 1: up for the task. I have no doubt, and we'll

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01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 1: just see where it goes. It's it's depth in competition, Murph.

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01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 1: That's all it is. Give us one thing about your

2151
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 1: boy at tea Bass Tyler Bass to kick her. Well,

2152
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 1: he's a good old South Carolina boy that's down near

2153
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 1: my roots. So we give him a star for that.

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01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 1: But now you know what I first, You know, obviously

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01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 1: i'd heard about him from the Scouts, uh, you know

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01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 1: in December when they were kind of going through him.

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01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 1: I didn't I never saw him play live at Georgia

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01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 1: Southern anything like that, but uh, I knew he was

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01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 1: getting the invite with some of the other good kickers

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01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,679
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl. And so I stayed that whole

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Speaker 1: week and watched him. And and one of the days

2162
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 1: we went indoors, they were really or that at South Alabama.

2163
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: They kind of have that covered practice facility, and so

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01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 1: I was there and they were backing him up and

2165
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Speaker 1: kicking this thing, and he was, you know, you know,

2166
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 1: hitting some sixty plus yard with with room to spare

2167
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: field goals down there. And so you saw his legs

2168
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:44,639
Speaker 1: drank kickoffs. He was booming him out of the end zone. Um.

2169
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 1: And so we know how important the weather and the

2170
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 1: wind and the elements are here in Buffalo, uh to

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01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 1: have a powerful leg. So it's one of those things,

2172
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 1: same as Barkley. You know, this is competition, h you know,

2173
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 1: for Steven, But we were going to sign a kick

2174
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 1: if we didn't draft this guy. There were several that

2175
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:04,679
Speaker 1: we had targeted that we would try and sign after

2176
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:07,760
Speaker 1: the draft to come in and compete. Uh. You know,

2177
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:09,799
Speaker 1: we already have a punter on the roster to compete

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01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: with Bojoe. And so it's somewhere either in the draft

2179
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:15,600
Speaker 1: or after the draft, we were going to add competition.

2180
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 1: You'd like to go with two kickers like we had

2181
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: Chase McLaughlin last year, who who really did a great

2182
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 1: job and got some opportunities in the league. And that's

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01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: what this is. You know, I told Tyler when we

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01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 1: drafted him, like, you're coming in, You're going against a

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01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 1: veteran and Stephen House, proven veteran who hit some big

2186
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 1: kicks for us and has in Seattle, and and nothing

2187
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 1: will be given to You'll have to earn it if

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01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 1: you win. The job, Bran, and I know there was

2189
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 1: concerned before Saturday about the post draft signing of rookie

2190
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 1: free agents. How did that go? Was it as crazy

2191
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 1: as you anticipated it? Make? You know? It went better

2192
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 1: than I thought. To be honest with you, it wasn't unknown.

2193
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 1: Joe Shane and Terrence Gray and Dan Morgan did a

2194
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:02,480
Speaker 1: great job. And a gentleman by the name of Luis Guilimo,

2195
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 1: who is our analytics guy. He did a great job

2196
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 1: of in our scouting app of developing something for us

2197
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 1: that allowed it's a live screen some of of some

2198
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 1: things we have at the combine. When guys put in

2199
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:18,800
Speaker 1: like forty times, guys could enter information and give me

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01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,480
Speaker 1: a three color prong where they were in the negotiation

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01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 1: talking to this player, confirmed with this player, so I'm

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01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 1: seeing them change on my board. Have offered eight thousand

2203
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 1: dollars signing bonus right now it's down to us in Cleveland,

2204
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 1: US in Tennessee or three teams. Agent gonna call us back.

2205
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 1: So they were able to kind of color code it

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01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 1: where they were and it's updating, and then we had

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01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 1: the zoom going, so sometimes I was checking back and

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01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 1: so we had Brian Gaine kind of oversee what the

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Speaker 1: offense was doing, in Terrence overseeing the defense kind of

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01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 1: the moderators, and sometimes they might have to put in

2211
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 1: the information because the player, the scout or coach was

2212
01:51:56,560 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 1: going to another player in the process. But it was

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01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:04,560
Speaker 1: really well thought out by by Joe and Luis and

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01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 1: Terrence and Dan, and they deserve all the credit they

2215
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 1: I kind of gave him this project and they ran

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01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:12,600
Speaker 1: with it, and I was able to enjoy it, and

2217
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,639
Speaker 1: it was the least involved I've ever been in that part.

2218
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 1: I was checking and kind of doing this and talking about, well,

2219
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 1: we can go up more on this bonus if we need.

2220
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 1: We've lost out on this player type thing, but we

2221
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 1: targeted some guys. Did we get every a target, No,

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01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:29,560
Speaker 1: but we got a good amount of the guys we

2223
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 1: were after. So where does the roster stand right now?

2224
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 1: What's the number? And what do you have left to do?

2225
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 1: So you know, these things aren't finalized. You know, you

2226
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 1: have agreements in place, but we're right around eighty seven.

2227
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:45,879
Speaker 1: You know, right now we have the exemption with Christian

2228
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 1: Wade still, so we can get it to ninety one.

2229
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:50,719
Speaker 1: And I do want to keep a couple of spots,

2230
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 1: so we may sign one two more maybe over the

2231
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 1: next week or so. But some veterans, I don't know.

2232
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 1: You know, if you guys have paid attention, you're starting

2233
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 1: to hear rumors up some veterans being released on teams

2234
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 1: where they drafted certain players. So that could happen where

2235
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 1: there's a you know, we're paying attention to that and

2236
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 1: there may be a veteran. Then we say, hey, and

2237
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:13,400
Speaker 1: I want to have a spot available. I would hate

2238
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: for our coaches to we sign a free agent. They're

2239
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: working with them and they've been with them for ten

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01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 1: days and now I pull the rug out from under

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01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 1: them without you know, wasting their time. So we'll keep

2242
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:25,640
Speaker 1: a couple of spots and you know, and see what

2243
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 1: shows up. Brandon, what's next for you? Your your department

2244
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 1: in the bills in general? What should we look for next? Yeah,

2245
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:35,679
Speaker 1: I mean exactly what I said. We're going to continue

2246
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:39,919
Speaker 1: to see what's out there. Normally, Murph, we'd be inviting

2247
01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:42,720
Speaker 1: guys right now to our that may rookie can't trying

2248
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: to get the best crop of guys, and so there's

2249
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of guys out there that did

2250
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 1: not get jobs. So that's what we're doing this week

2251
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,759
Speaker 1: is um You know, the guys are gonna be calming

2252
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: with agents and seeing who didn't get signed and what opportunities,

2253
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:57,360
Speaker 1: making sure there's not a guy that slipped through the

2254
01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:00,080
Speaker 1: cracks that we think we would like to work with

2255
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 1: or deserve shot. You know, That's that's the tough part

2256
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 1: of this for both of us, is from a team standpoint,

2257
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 1: there's some guys we'd like to get a little more

2258
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 1: look at. And from the player you know, there's some

2259
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 1: players that you always signed one, two, three guys from

2260
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 1: those camp that kind of flash. You know, Garrett mcgin

2261
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 1: we got out of that camp last year, who we've

2262
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 1: resigned and was on Carolina's practice squad for a year.

2263
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 1: There's always a couple and that's what that's the unfortunate

2264
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:26,600
Speaker 1: part of the situation we're in for these players in

2265
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: for teams. One last thing for me, Brandon, you know

2266
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 1: May ninth is still we're looking for the schedule to

2267
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 1: come out from the NFL. Is there anything else on

2268
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 1: the horizon that you've been told or what we can

2269
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 1: look for. Have you been told anything about what may

2270
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 1: or may not transpire in the next coming weeks, a

2271
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 1: deadline or of anything like that or a target date

2272
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 1: that the league's looking at maybe making some decisions. No,

2273
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 1: nothing new really on that point. I think the league

2274
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 1: has been trying to get through the draft, and I

2275
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: know they're having discussions back there. I do think the

2276
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 1: next big thing on the NFL count or is what

2277
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 1: day they are going to release this this schedule. The

2278
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 1: last I've heard is it's still May ninth would be

2279
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 1: the latest date. I don't know if that's I haven't

2280
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 1: heard that that is the date, but I've heard that's

2281
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: the latest. So we'll see if they stick to that.

2282
01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 1: I think it you know, anything can be adjusted, you know.

2283
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 1: I think if there's some things that they think, hey,

2284
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 1: around May ninth, we're gonna have some clarity here in

2285
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 1: one to two weeks, we're gonna hold it. That could

2286
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 1: still happen, you know, that wouldn't surprise me. I think

2287
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 1: the May ninth date was put out there to kind

2288
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 1: of say, hey, let's get through the draft, give us

2289
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:34,400
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks after the draft to make some tweaks.

2290
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 1: They've always in my mind, the league is always wanted

2291
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 1: to do this schedule after the draft, but teams have

2292
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:43,720
Speaker 1: kind of pushed back because of trying to get planes

2293
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 1: and buses and hotels and things like that going. So

2294
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 1: in the end, I haven't heard a lot as far

2295
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 1: as what the plan is, whether there will be any

2296
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 1: kind of everything's virtual plan right now. We would love

2297
01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 1: to get these guys in in late May or June,

2298
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 1: but that's still an unknown. Hey, Brandon, thanks for this.

2299
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 1: Congratulations on a great draft weekend. Thank you, Thanks thanks

2300
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 1: for having me guys. Always good to talk to you,

2301
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 1: to talk to you, Brandon being to Bill general manager

2302
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:13,160
Speaker 1: live on the line with us answering a ton of questions.

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01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 1: We kept him a half hour. You don't have a

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01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 1: half hour to spend with us, Steve, are you getting

2305
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 1: up apparently to do we got We gotta take a break.

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01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 1: We'll be back after this break. One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: by a lot of Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:37,360
Speaker 1: Good long conversation with Brandon Being the general manager of

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01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 1: the Bills. If you want to hear that, and if

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01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 1: you missed part of it, you can always go to

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01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 1: to pick up podcasting shows. Portions of the show also

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Speaker 1: on iTunes, Spotify, and Google Play. We had Chris brown on,

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Speaker 1: we had Kelvin bell on aj F and S's college

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Speaker 1: coach in Iowa. Imagine you can hear all I know,

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Speaker 1: you can't hear all of that. You go back and

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Speaker 1: what's to our show? You know, people don't listen for

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Speaker 1: the whole three hours, Steve, who has actually no people

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Speaker 1: might have that kind of time, right, Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: they do something. Could there's some who do. Are most

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Speaker 1: loyal and devoted listeners do that. I'm sure everything he

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Speaker 1: said Brandon was good, comfortable. I think with his draft class,

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Speaker 1: I do. I'm half kidding when I said I wasn't

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Speaker 1: disappointed and he didn't make a trade, but I was

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Speaker 1: a bit surprised. I thought he would like the wheeler

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Speaker 1: and dealer and for whatever reason, No, he said. Our

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Speaker 1: board was the reason. He said, he put that in

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Speaker 1: his back pocket. Like you said, it's good to know

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Speaker 1: that he can be that way. But it's also good

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Speaker 1: to know that he has restraint and he sees the

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Speaker 1: board followed his way. He'll stay with his board and

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Speaker 1: wind up with good picks. Right. I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you, and it always takes two people

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Speaker 1: to do it, but we did see a couple of tis.

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Speaker 1: We saw three trades in the first round, up and

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Speaker 1: back and just so this wasn't like teams weren't doing it.

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Speaker 1: But certainly I think when it got it seemed as

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Speaker 1: though every pick, all seven picks, when they got to Buffalo,

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01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 1: they didn't need to move upward down and got the

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Speaker 1: exact guy they wanted. So it sounds it's it's a

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01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, good place to be, and I think it

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Speaker 1: does speak to their willingness not not to just do it,

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01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 1: to do it, you know, you got to move up

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Speaker 1: or down to do it. So I'm gonna attention, not

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Speaker 1: looking to make a flash, right to build a good team.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the draft? We got a

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Speaker 1: few minutes here if you want to phone in a

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Speaker 1: comment eight oh three oh five fifty toll free from

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Speaker 1: outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: You can vote in their Twitter poll. We got more

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Speaker 1: than a thousand votes already. How would you grade the

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Speaker 1: Bills draft class and why? Forty six percent of you

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01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 1: say you give them an eight, forty eight percent say

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Speaker 1: you'd give them a B, four percent say you'd give

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Speaker 1: him a C, and two percent say you'd give them

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Speaker 1: a D or an F. Again, I did the math.

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Speaker 1: That's about twenty two people think they got a D

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Speaker 1: R n F. Those are the people I really died

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01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 1: to hear from right A D and what do you see?

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Speaker 1: What am I missing? Give us a call fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to the tweet sheet brought to you by CARGET

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Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official movies of the Buffalo Bills. Give

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Speaker 1: your tweet sheet in front of you, Steve, I do

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Speaker 1: Bills Fan three sixty five. I'm stuck between a low

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Speaker 1: B and a high sea. I didn't like the quarterback Pick.

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Speaker 1: I thought there was still talent to be had at

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01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:20,600
Speaker 1: other positions that being overlooked. We did not address the

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Speaker 1: O line, linebacker, tight end, or safety positions at all,

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Speaker 1: and I'd have to ask him why. That's how I

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Speaker 1: feel about it, Bill Fan three sixty five not all

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Speaker 1: that happy. He didn't like the jake from Pick. Thought

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Speaker 1: there were some positions the Bills needed to grab. I

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01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 1: don't know if I agree with all of his line

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Speaker 1: of his positions that he thought we had a need

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Speaker 1: at offensive line and safety. For one, although offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I could go for linebacker and tight end in safety.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm kind of happy with their roster

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01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 1: were there at now. Jack tweets this, and it's a

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Speaker 1: good class. I'd say B plus only because I wish

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01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:58,280
Speaker 1: they'd have gone wide receiver a little earlier, and they

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01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 1: passed a few times on Bryce Hall, a talidate cornerback

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Speaker 1: coming off injury. But I'm happy with Fins as a

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Speaker 1: replacement for Lawson and Mosses and running mate for Motive.

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Speaker 1: The kicker in round six is the curious one, but

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Speaker 1: we'll see interesting m Yeah. Bryce Hall, who was one

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Speaker 1: of the guys I think I mentioned him Friday during

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Speaker 1: the show, is a guy that I thought the Bills

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Speaker 1: or somebody would be interested in. And the Bills, where

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Speaker 1: do you go fourth round? I think right? Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: was before he was I think he was gone. I

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02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:33,040
Speaker 1: he was he gone before after M Gabriel Davis the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. I can't remember, but yeah, I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: with him. The kicker. You know, here's a thing. Nobody

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02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:46,520
Speaker 1: thinks you should draft a kicker until the guy wins

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Speaker 1: a couple of games for you, or at least one

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Speaker 1: game you know where he makes that kick, and that's

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Speaker 1: they're hard to come by. Kickers who make eighty five

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Speaker 1: to ninety percent of their kicks are really difficult to

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Speaker 1: find in the NFL. And for him to make, for

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Speaker 1: anybody to make that kind of percentage playing in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: late in the season, it's it just doesn't happen. So

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Speaker 1: kickers are a premium. You need one, You've got to

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Speaker 1: find one, and if you don't draft one, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a kicker that nobody else wanted. You know. Basically,

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Speaker 1: you got to sign those guys or steal them from

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Speaker 1: other teams like the Bills did with Houshcot. There's the

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Speaker 1: thing I don't want to dwell on this thing about kickers.

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Speaker 1: I think se was they're fungible. You know, you draft

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Speaker 1: him six round or whatever, you don't like him, he

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Speaker 1: loses the game for him. So what you caught him

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Speaker 1: and you bring in another kicker, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: They're fungible you don't like Yeah, probably this kicker you

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Speaker 1: don't like that. I mean, it's nothing against the guy,

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Speaker 1: but unfortunate. That's what the position calls for. And I

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Speaker 1: think for guys, for most people, kickers they don't appreciate

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Speaker 1: how technical that position is, mainly because like this, say

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Speaker 1: the Bills, you know, release Stephen hous go or they

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02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 1: get a guy or whatever, Like the Bills drafted Gary

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02:01:57,280 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 1: Anderson back in the seventies. He wasn't very good, but

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Speaker 1: he goes to another team, gets a little coaching, tweaks

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02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:06,960
Speaker 1: his approach or tweaks his technique or his mechanics, and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the guys in the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: or a guy has a bad stretch, misses it one

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Speaker 1: or two costs you a game, and then miss is

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Speaker 1: another one in the next game that you struggle to

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Speaker 1: win or maybe even lose, and you know, you release him,

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Speaker 1: but then he goes or or you hang with him,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the guys making everything, Um,

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02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:29,959
Speaker 1: there's streaks. They can be streaky, and and their technique

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02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:34,000
Speaker 1: can be coached and improved, and that means their accuracy

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02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:36,080
Speaker 1: can be coached and improved as well. So sometimes you

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Speaker 1: got to be patient and work through it, and you know,

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Speaker 1: so that and that's basically it's a it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a tough position on a week to week basis to think, okay,

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Speaker 1: we're all set there, you know, when you're talking about

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Speaker 1: the corner from Virginia, Bryce Hall. He went in the

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Speaker 1: fifth round. My bed. The Jets got him in the

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Speaker 1: fifth round after the Bills chose Gabriel Gabriel Agis Davison,

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Speaker 1: Bills chose Jake prom and you went in the fifth round.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a phone call here, Al and Buffalo is

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Speaker 1: on the air with this Hello, how are you? Hey?

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02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:10,480
Speaker 1: Hey guys, um I give the Bills an a in

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02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:15,440
Speaker 1: the draft Sean McDermott, and being in the last three years,

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02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:17,720
Speaker 1: they'd given me no reason to doubt anything we do.

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02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:22,000
Speaker 1: I got complete trust in him. I think, correct me

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02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:25,640
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. But they probably could name how long

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02:03:25,720 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 1: they want to be here. I mean, I think they're

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Speaker 1: pretty well set. Yeah, I hope I don't. Yeah, I'm

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02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:35,280
Speaker 1: kind of like to see I'd like to see him extended,

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02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:37,640
Speaker 1: that's for sure. I mean they're both I think in

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02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:40,040
Speaker 1: the third year their deal, Brandon may have an extra

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02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:43,560
Speaker 1: year on his. I'm not sure mcdermots is. I think

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02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:45,320
Speaker 1: it's the third year of a five year deal that

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02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:48,200
Speaker 1: he just finished. He'd be going under his fourth year, right, Yes,

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02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 1: he's going into his He just finished the third year

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Speaker 1: of a five year deal. Just started into his fourth

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Speaker 1: year of a five year deal, so he's got this

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Speaker 1: year and another on and you know, so it'll be

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Speaker 1: up to them too, you know, it'll be after the

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Speaker 1: coach and the GM or the and the ownership to

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Speaker 1: decide on how long they stay. But yeah, for the

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Speaker 1: time being, I think they're pretty much bulletproof for slings

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Speaker 1: and arrows that fans shoot at them. They're hitting on

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02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 1: all cylinders in their personnel department, it seems like. And

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Speaker 1: that's right. So that's where the a's and b's when

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Speaker 1: we ask people to grade the bill's draft. That's where

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Speaker 1: they come from. Not so much that everybody knows everything

2469
02:04:23,560 --> 02:04:25,960
Speaker 1: there is to know about AJF and That's or Zach Moss, etc.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that Brandon Bean and his staff and

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02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot and his staff have done such a good

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Speaker 1: job over the years. Right, ninety four percent of our

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02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:37,080
Speaker 1: respondents give them the air or B. It's more of

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02:04:37,120 --> 02:04:39,280
Speaker 1: a grade on beingan McDermott, I think than it is

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02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 1: on the actual players TEA. Yeah, I think it's a.

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Speaker 1: It's a vote of confidence to what they've already done

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02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:46,920
Speaker 1: and the confidence going forward. Nobody knows how these guys

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02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:49,160
Speaker 1: are all going to play, right. I mean, we can

2479
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 1: all speculate, and we can tell you what they have

2480
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 1: done in the past and how they project, but until

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02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:56,120
Speaker 1: we see it, there's no proof of it. I think

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02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:58,520
Speaker 1: these grades, particularly the as and b's, are the ones

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Speaker 1: that are given go to confidence to what they've already seen.

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Speaker 1: The head coach and general manager. Due. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Greg in Toronto. Hello, Greg, you're on the air. Good afternoon, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Um I give him a bee. And the only reason

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02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't see him um getting an A is because, um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I really liked Barkley. Um, he seemed

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02:05:22,200 --> 02:05:26,000
Speaker 1: like a good team guy. And who evaluate make to

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02:05:26,120 --> 02:05:29,280
Speaker 1: evaluate him on the one quarter he played last year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it just seemed like and and

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02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:35,440
Speaker 1: and they seem like they could have used some sort

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02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:39,520
Speaker 1: of like a backup safety or a corner or something

2494
02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:44,080
Speaker 1: to instead of another quarterback. But yeah, Greg, I do

2495
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:46,280
Speaker 1: want to say, I don't think the drafting of Jake

2496
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:49,400
Speaker 1: from really has a ton to do with an evaluation

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Speaker 1: of Matt Barkley. Barkley's going into the final year of

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02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:55,600
Speaker 1: his contract and they're backstopping themselves and as Brandon means

2499
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Speaker 1: just said, you know it's all about his board big

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Speaker 1: from right chapter. I don't think it's a referendum signing

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Speaker 1: the drafting and problem is not a referendum on Matt Barkley.

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02:06:03,120 --> 02:06:05,720
Speaker 1: I would think, Steve, you know, and I know you

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02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 1: mentioned it. You may not believe it, or you may

2504
02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 1: have just been talking about it, but you know how

2505
02:06:10,280 --> 02:06:13,680
Speaker 1: to evaluate Barkley on the one quarter of play that

2506
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 1: he had last season when he got into the New

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02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:19,480
Speaker 1: England game. At the end, listen that that's not how

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Speaker 1: they are basing the bulk of their evaluation on Matt Barkley.

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02:06:23,960 --> 02:06:27,080
Speaker 1: He's a backup quarterback in the NFL. They're basing their

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Speaker 1: evaluation on more than that one quarter. They're basing it

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Speaker 1: on how he supports the starting quarterback, what kind of

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Speaker 1: player he is at practice and in the meeting rooms,

2513
02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:42,160
Speaker 1: of how he works out his work ethic. It has

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Speaker 1: as much to do with his total package as a

2515
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Speaker 1: player and as a human being as it does with

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Speaker 1: the one quarter he got in unexpectedly in Week four

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Speaker 1: of last season. This goes into what how good a

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Speaker 1: support he is for the starter. As much as it

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Speaker 1: is is the confidence they have in him coming in

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Speaker 1: off the bench in in relief of an injured Jack,

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Speaker 1: of an injured Josh Adam. They get a quarter of

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback gets evaluated in his total package of what

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Speaker 1: he brings to the table, not just one quarter of

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Speaker 1: one game in the past season. There's a lot that

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Speaker 1: goes into that evaluation. That's a Monday through Friday thing

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Speaker 1: for the backup quarterback as well. Exactly well, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, exactly. And it's also the relationship he has

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback coach and the quarterback the starter. How

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Speaker 1: he compliments the starter, not just and I don't mean

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Speaker 1: paying the guy compliments. I mean how he supports him,

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Speaker 1: what he gives the guy when he comes off the

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Speaker 1: field in between series, what Matt Barkley can communicate to him,

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Speaker 1: how he sees things that Josh season, how he understands

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Speaker 1: what Josh thinks when he sees certain things, and to

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Speaker 1: walk him through a better way to do it if possible.

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Speaker 1: So that's what he's how he is evaluated, not so

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Speaker 1: much of his play call from Vince in North On,

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Speaker 1: I want the Hello venture on the air with us. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing good? Listen? I wonder as I

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Speaker 1: haven't heard anything more about the soccer player Christian Wade.

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Speaker 1: Do we have any reason believe that he's coming along

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Speaker 1: further and just understanding of football. Well, nobody's seen him unfortunately,

2543
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Speaker 1: you know, January fourth, So no, there's I hope he's

2544
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Speaker 1: coming along. He's working hard in the off season, but

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Speaker 1: nobody's seen him. I'm sure the Bills are as eager

2546
02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:33,120
Speaker 1: to find out as anybody, don't you think. See, yeah,

2547
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Speaker 1: he's not a soccer player as a rugby player, but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's hopefully he's staying in shape. We'll have to get it.

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Speaker 1: We'll get a look at him when they these things

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Speaker 1: wind up. Thanks you for your car. We're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a break and then we're back. One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: by KLAIDA Health Radio only today. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio,

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Speaker 1: official construction equipment rental company. In the Buffalo Bill. We

2554
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Speaker 1: had Kelvin Bell on the show, the defensive line coach

2555
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Speaker 1: for the Iowa Hawkeyes University of Iowa. He had aj

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Speaker 1: Epessa and he talked about the type of person and

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Speaker 1: the type of player is first off, a humble guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, and that's why I think he's a really

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Speaker 1: good fit, you know for Buffalo. Just a low a

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Speaker 1: low maintenance kid from that regard, but you're getting an extremely,

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Speaker 1: extremely gifted athlete. Um. He was a three three sport

2562
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Speaker 1: athlete in high school. Excelled at everything, extremely coachable, guy,

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Speaker 1: wants to learn. Probably the most important things that AJ

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Speaker 1: are his family is very tight knit family. And second

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Speaker 1: would be the opinions of his teammates. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's a true team guy that didn't want to let

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Speaker 1: him that. You know, it's not a me guy, a

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Speaker 1: team guy, didn't want to let anybody down. But just

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Speaker 1: the ability that he had and just you know, just

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Speaker 1: God given strength and talent. Um, he's just an exemplary

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Speaker 1: young man. Strong and Darth s Steve, no question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like everybody loves the kid. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: if you spend it positive. The best thing about the

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Speaker 1: guy is everybody dropped him down the board just because

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Speaker 1: he didn't run a fast forty time as a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: I can live with that. I don't know about you.

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Speaker 1: On the best case scenario, they got a great player

2578
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Speaker 1: at a great value and he's going to be a

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Speaker 1: Buffalo bill for a long time and be very productive

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Speaker 1: Production Assistant. Today from Kevin Rude, JJ Teredo, Kevin Carter,

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Speaker 1: James Robo, Raton Wilson, and Joe Deviance, our board ops

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Speaker 1: and our producer Jay Harris. We're back tomorrow at twelve

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