WEBVTT - EP 368: Catching Trans Chasers (Ft. TS Madison) 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:09.000 Guess what decision We're about to make? Horrible decision? How 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:09.680 do everybody? 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.079 We are the Horrible Decisions Podcast and we're going to 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:14.760 be in Dallas, Texas. Memorial Day weekend, bitch is a Sunday. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.440 We're gonna be headlining the two Togetherland Festival. 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:19.840 And you bitches better now how no motherfucker work on Sunday? 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:20.680 Call out? Ho? 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:23.799 I mean you could do that, but also it's a 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.360 three day weekend. They have Monday off. We will see 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:29.400 you guys in Dallas, Texas at the together Land Festival. 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:31.680 Make sure you get your tickets now. We will be 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.959 live on the podcast stage. That's made twenty six Get 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:39.680 your tickets now at togetherland dot com. Babby, just know 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.200 that Horrible Decisions today Maybe is the motherfucking Florida y'all 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.320 know we some Florida bitches here and we are joined 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:46.760 by being Florida bitch. 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.519 Okay, the big dig. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.760 Bitch, the big dig bitches Day County. 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:53.600 Now hold on, now you know we some fall seven 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:54.640 Chapa City girls. 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.360 Okay, you are from the real city of Florida, though 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:02.400 not be in the real city of US are technically Jacksonville. 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:07.360 Is the capital. Technically wait what's teas, it is not. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.120 More for the record, I just want to let it 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:16.000 be known that day County is its own thing. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.280 Oh yeah, you can't fear your tells us every count 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.280 We're not even in Florida. We just in DA. 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.240 We have to tell y'all who we have in ability 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:28.800 because it's years overdue. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:30.800 Yes, yes, overdue. 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.280 Yes we are with the one and only everybody's favorite 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.880 Internet personality, everybody's favorite. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.440 Comedian and just all of it. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.880 We just love who you are, and I think seeing 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:45.679 you over the years, even though you're a common section, 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:47.120 they're like, oh my god, bitch. 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.360 Where are you now? This is what Gatala is. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.520 This just your growth and everything, and it's like you've 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:58.480 always been beautiful, but now just glowing and shining. Gods, 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:00.480 t asked ass. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.640 Tea ass. Let me tell y'all something I have watched you, ladies. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.680 I have watched the way that you have had guests 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:14.880 on your show, certain guests, not certain guests, certain, yes, 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.720 not certain guests. And I love the way that you 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.919 you your ladies, hold your own I love the way 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.960 that you you stand and who you are, and I 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:25.440 love the way that you get on social media and you 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.480 don't give a fuck who called and you call it, oh, hello, Andrew, 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.600 and and and that's what's something. That's the type of 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.560 energy that I've I've always been on. Your energy is 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:34.520 as always well. 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.440 And at this point, it probably is something in the 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:38.680 water in Florida. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.120 It's Florida. You know, it's the Florida's Florida water. 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.880 It's just I did want to start there because you 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.640 do have and we're gonna go through all types of 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.200 topics today, y'all. I do have an outline. We're gonna 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.520 get into it. But I know we can talk. We've 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.600 been needing to talk. Yes, So let's start with Florida 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.600 because you have an experience in Orlando. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.440 You brought up, you brought up somewhere that I. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.520 Listen to give the line text, y'all listen. In Orlando, Florida, 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.760 there's a place called Orange Blossom Trail. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.760 So that's what y'all call it. No, I called obt. Oh, 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.120 it's just obt damn what I do, my little news 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.360 banker Bob. And there's the trail. 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.440 There's a street, there's a road. There's a section called 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.360 Orange Blossom Trail. And when you're looking for a certain 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.480 type of lady, you go find them hose on the trail. 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:23.360 The hose on the trail. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.440 And when Maby just said, oh, I used to be 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:31.160 on ALBT Okay, So wait, I grew up Oakridge, well, 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:35.560 Oakridge and OBT. And what's crazy is my mom didn't 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.200 talk to me about sex with boys, didn't talk to 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.800 me about drugs. But baby, I was five years old 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.800 and knew what the women on the trail were and 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.240 what they were doing there. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.520 And was getting to the money. So my mom. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.000 Literally, now that I think about it, we should have 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.280 to talk. She talked to me about prostitution before anything 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.080 else in life. Look at us now taking this money, right, 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.520 so what was Let's start there because it like who 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.080 you are now and we're gonna get into that. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.600 But where you listen, here's the thing. Here's the thing, ladies, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.920 I want to tell y'all that I am. I'm never 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.800 going to shy away from talking about my beginnings because 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.920 you have to be able to talk to people about 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.240 where it began, because they look at you now and 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.680 they say, uh, you know, like you up at e 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:18.960 or you just because I say because I tell a 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.320 bit I'm rich or h I say stuff like, oh, 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.000 I don't go past roll six on the plane, you know, 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.520 or I'm always a black car. I must be black cart, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:34.719 you know. But I used to be broke, I was homeless, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.280 I was I was a hooker on the on the sidewalk. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:40.440 And I have no shame or anything about any of 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.800 that stuff, because it's never where you start. It's where 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:47.400 your trajectory goes. And for me when I was back then, 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.080 I transitioned around about seventeen years old, okay, seventeen eighteen, 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:54.720 like kind of right out of high school. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:55.000 You know. 0:04:55.760 --> 0:05:02.240 I've only known being a boy up until about eighteen, 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.479 and I'm kind of glad that I have the opportunity 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:10.599 to transition later on because I've had the experienced life 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.400 as a gay male and now as a trans woman, 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.560 you know. And so because I know we might get 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.120 into questions where people ask, like, well, how when did 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:19.320 you know? 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:21.520 I've always known. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.680 I've always known, But I'm glad that I have the 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:28.239 opportunity to experience life, you know, in all of its phases. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.400 I'm going to be forty seven this year, so that'll 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:39.280 be me thirty years into transition. I do and do 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:45.520 beautiful hello and is passable you know, you know, but 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.640 I didn't want that life for me. That's not what 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:49.159 I wanted. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:49.440 You know. 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:53.039 I used to look down on strippers and hookers. I 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.599 used to because I'm from a Christian house and so, 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.920 you know, your mama raised you up into, you know, 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.520 being an upstanding you know. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:01.680 But when you're growing up. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.800 And you're having like a lot of battles with on 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:05.400 on the inside, and you're trying to figure out, like 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:05.960 what's going on? 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:07.720 Like why am I not I have brothers? Like why 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:08.680 am I not like my brother? 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:08.880 So? 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.640 Why am I not like my cousins? Like what's what's wrong? 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.960 Like what's why? Do why not? Why? When? Why? When 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.800 men are having conversations about women around me, I'm like, 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:19.599 you don't see that boy over there? 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:21.880 You know what I'm saying, Or like you know you 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.320 don't like I don't. I don't look at women. I've 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.120 always found women to be extremely attractive. Like I can 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.520 sit here and look at how gorgeous both of you 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.279 ladies are, and everywhere I go when I see gorgeous ladies, 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.960 I'm like, damn. Like even my friend and I when 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.480 we be in the car, we be out somewhere or whatever, 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.479 and both of us be looking at girls liked yang. 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.640 He's bad, you know, because you ain't ever, but I 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.880 don't have any sexual attraction and you but you knew 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:48.720 that early on there. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.320 Oh, and I knew that, Okay, you. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.160 Know that I knew when you said, you know, I 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.279 always look down on strippers and sex workers, like people 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.599 many people that ended up falling into this life. Do 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.240 you think that when you started a prostitution and it 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:04.280 was because of being trans. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.360 Yes, and it was. And because I'm from you got 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.440 to remember, we're in twenty twenty four, thirty years ago, 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.440 and I was seventeen, what was thirty years from nineteen 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.400 ninety something, so we were still in a ninety four. 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:18.840 We were still in a time. 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:25.679 Of and it was bourbage then transsexual, oh honey, cross 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:31.000 dressed rode. You know, the language around it was completely 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:31.720 completely different. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.080 Like all of the new age terms that we have now, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.360 like the new age of blossoming and understanding things. We 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:38.880 didn't have any of that because there was nobody that 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.440 was willing or even wanted to understand that. Because we've 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.960 been in the shadows for so long, you know, and 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:45.760 so and so. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:49.000 Going into that was was it because it seventeen eighteen 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:49.480 years old. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:50.280 You're transitioning. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.440 Were you going to the mall in different places and 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.760 they just wouldn't hire you because of how you were presenting? 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:57.560 Well, it was it was definitely because of how it 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.320 was presenting. And then I actually found lace that let 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.400 that allowed me to come to work. I remember my 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.400 first job in transition. I worked at publics. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:10.440 Y'all. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:14.680 Publics, y'all don't like the Okay, I mean, I still 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:20.000 eat their son. But here's the thing, here's the thing. 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.200 I worked at publics and I remember me being the 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:28.680 first male cashier that they would hire. They was the 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.960 first male they had. It was always women at the 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.040 counter and the men did and the men did the stocking. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:40.040 I was like stocking, I wear them stocking. Are you 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:45.480 crazy girl now? And so, uh girl, this is crazy. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:50.400 I remember having an altercation with a customer at the counter 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:55.320 and she was so irate. She told my manager that 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:56.840 was standing up there to the front, she said. 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.520 Why don't you reprimand this lady, this lady is so 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:03.400 rude and ness. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:04.880 Because I was just paying that whole dust that was 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.440 over her with all those fucking coupons, and so she said, 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:09.000 why don't. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.400 You reprimand her she's so rude and da da da. 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.080 And so my manager was like, who are you talking about? 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.440 And she was like the lady, this lady right here, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:23.120 and he turned he was flushed, turn red. I read it, yeah, 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.200 and was like, ma'am, that is not a lady. 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:30.320 Did that at the time make you feel good or worse? 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.360 At the time, I was said, fuck that puss sass 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.640 puss sass as pussayss cust some way, and the mother 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.240 fucking the fuck you pussa ass old you know. But 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.920 I wasn't thinking about it because I didn't know anything 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.200 except for I knew who I was, so I didn't 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.400 know how to feel, like the validation or whatever. I 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.680 just like, girluck because I knew I was was real 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:51.040 as clocky as I was. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.480 I knew I was still real. I knew that girl. 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.559 So they took me to the office in the back 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.760 or whatever, and they was like, uh, because my name, 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.679 my former name was Timothy, and I'm open about all 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.640 this stuff. So you know I'm open about that because 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.640 I've lived my life in the public, y'all. Somebody could 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.200 google it. Oh listen, I'm gonna tell you, like my 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:15.800 name was Timothy, and so they the uh, the manager 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.160 was like, Timothy, you're gonna have to come in here. 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.920 You gotta You're gonna have to. You're gonna have to. 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.600 You're gonna have to. You're gonna have to. That's what 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.840 You're gonna have to, like be more Timothy. Yeah, you're 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.079 gonna have to be more Timothy. 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.679 Yeah, You're gonna have to. So I'm like, bitch, how 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.520 do I do that? Like my hair with like my 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.959 hair with my hair was permed. I had my hair 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:40.120 back in the poem you wear little ear rings or whatever, 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:40.679 you know, I. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.439 Had did your makeup? Were you doing makeup? 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.280 It was a little bit. I didn't know too much, 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:46.679 you know. I just knew that I was in the 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.440 in the in the position to change, right, you know. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:54.520 And so you know, I was like, how do I 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.720 do that? Like what the fuck do I do? Like? 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.640 You know, and so, you know, we kept having these problems, 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:04.360 and I took my h I took a yellow sticky 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:08.119 tab and I covered up Timothy and put Chanell on that. Wow, 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.680 because that was my name, Chanelle. So I put Chanel 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.840 on top of the the Timothy thing over there. And 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.839 so they were they it was just stuff and that 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.000 was irritating them, and they was like, well, you know, 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:19.640 we can't we go. 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.040 They let me go because you wouldn't be more Timothy, 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:24.240 because I wann't be more Timothy. 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.200 That was my first time being let go because of 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:30.280 that that Publics. Yeah, wow, that was my first time. Well, 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.560 I don't know if it was Public's policy, but you know, 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.680 because here's the thing where we have to here's the 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.240 thing because I'm gonna tell y'all a story. 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:37.319 But here's the thing. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.080 I don't know if it was public publics is policy, 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.319 but you know, the people that worked there wor they 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.440 felt some type of way because Publics hired me. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.800 But I did put Timothy on the application, girl, But 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.440 I did come in, but I didn't come in. I 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.800 did come inmoth, but I did come in. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.000 It's who I was, So it wasn't I didn't do 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.480 anything that was different. I just came in who it 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:03.160 was so fast forward were uh, and then it didn't 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.079 help any of that boys used to come up there 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:05.600 to the job. 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.640 Now while you was having men come up to the job, girl. 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.480 But see, this is what y'all gotta understand. I want 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.000 y'all ladies to understand this. I really want ladies and 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:16.520 the and the people out there that are watching to 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:17.160 understand this. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:24.080 And this is real ship. Trans women have an aura. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.439 About them as beautiful as women are. This is why 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.240 I have I don't feel any competition with any women. 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.440 I don't feel any way about any woman. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:32.679 I don't. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.199 I don't have any deep rooted, any feeling towards any 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:38.720 woman because especially when it comes down to men, because 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:43.000 trans women have this thing. And I figured this out 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:48.040 the older that I got, we have this thing that 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:57.040 it just draws men. We're not real. Hold on, let 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.520 me get somebody gonna fuck me up. You already know 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.920 that it's right, Ye, we're real people. But I want 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.199 to use this in a way because this is how 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.400 women like to say. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:09.880 You ain't real. You're not a real woman. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:14.200 You know, right, We're not you know, according to you know, 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.280 the way that women like to say you're not real. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:22.200 Gotta get that in there. And it don't matter. That's 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:25.600 the thing that it don't matter. It does not matter 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.200 if we're real or not to men. To men, it 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.520 does not matter. Is it the fantasy. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.800 I don't know if it's the fantasy, it's just the drawing. Listen, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.280 those people, the boys would come through my line and 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:39.280 it would be. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:45.319 I think it's the intrigue, the intriguing of what are you? 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.160 And I was younger then, you know, very young, just 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:53.319 like what are you? Do you find that? And again 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.079 today I really want to clear that real thing up. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:56.480 You know. 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.760 No, I mean I don't want the trans community. No, 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.040 even though I am a part of the trades community, 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.680 I may say things that and I want to say 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.880 this too, I may say things that may not align 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.079 with with the with the whole ideology of every everybody 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:08.679 in the community. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.720 It's not and that's listen, Flaming Road right, he'll be 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.920 like Blaming Road came on and said the things she said. 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.520 You know, you don't be a flame counting the same. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:19.240 We different with stuff. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.640 But we also just had Danielle and Dominikon who have 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.040 who did a wonderful, wonderful Cocomo City documentary their experience 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.320 and sex work, and people disagreed with the things they said. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.840 So at the end of the day, you're never gonna 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.280 please I know, but I just. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.320 Want to make sure that I don't say like I 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:36.800 don't want to, I don't want to say that we're 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.000 not real, Like now, we're not real people, We're not real. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:40.720 I just want to say it in the in the 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:42.920 in the aspect of women. This this is the this 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.920 is what I'm when I'm having an altercation with women, 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.360 a verbal alter the first thing, because you're not real. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.160 Wow, you're not a real woman. You'll never be a 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:51.640 real one. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.520 They want to go straight to calling bitch is back single, 0:14:55.640 --> 0:15:02.960 you ain't got kids. It's crazy though, because what you 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.800 said is when when you said that, men are like, 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:06.520 what are you like? 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:07.960 The fascination? Yeah. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.920 I was talking to a few friends of mine actually 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:15.720 who have played ball overseas, specifically in Asia, which one 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.880 girl will talk about it out there, but there's a 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.240 few of them that let me know that when you 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.760 make a certain caliber of money, especially like the politicians, 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.400 the really rich and wealthy people even in to buy 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.720 all over their Middle East and in Asia, they go 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:34.840 to trans women like going to even the strip clubs 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.520 and things in Thailand there's the lady boys. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.560 Are regular girls really don't They may not do it 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:41.920 in time. 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.160 The lady boys are like what is what the men 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.720 are drawing the lady girls. I think having that experience 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.720 over there and having people talk about trans women. And 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.840 this is when I studied abroad. I was what twenty five, 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.720 I'm thirty three now, but having those conversations and hearing 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.240 men speak about them and dat men who were into 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.480 trans women Like I hat a friend that was drinking 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.880 himself to death because he didn't feel like he would 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.280 be accepted by his parents by it. Took him to 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.760 the club, took him to the show that got bleaked 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:14.360 out last time. 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.960 Apparently I can't, you know, promote it. But yeah, like 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:23.880 you're talking about no, no, no, no, no no, wait, I 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.280 just passed that. Is that? 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.120 Oh you're telling me something I don't know? Gird that's 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:29.960 right down the street for our nights. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.160 I heard that Thursday night. 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.000 That's what I heard on next Thursday. Okay, even always 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:37.280 tea girl Thursday? 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:37.600 Is? 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.040 Why is it always Thursdays? Is that a thing? Is 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.040 it the team? Because white? Why? I don't? I have 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.440 no idea, but that night is always on Thursday. That's 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.880 what I heard. The country. I would I wouldn't set 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.160 foot in their honey. Okay, I've graduated from that that life, 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:57.960 but then I'm not looking watching have you have you 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.640 worked in those environments before, and how did difference I've 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.000 hosted like I've hosted that, I've hosted like I've like 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.560 I hosted an event in the in the clubs, you know, 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.200 but but I'm never gonna work in there because I 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.880 feel like that I'm more listen. I paved the way 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.320 for those girls to be who. 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:16.360 They are, and so I want to take a step back, then, 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.640 because navigating them from going to the streets to having 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.919 your own production company and shooting your own Yes, Like, 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.679 how'd you go from from OBT to. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:30.520 Can we start at OBT? 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.400 It was no, it was seventy ninth Street then ob 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.240 because baby, we listen when Miami would listen when Miami 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.440 wasn't having a good week off of seventy nine. 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.760 We want to hear about the culture of this because 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:47.120 today street walking is the most low. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:48.200 Brown ship to anybody. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.840 Yeah, they don't want to either talk about it or 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.000 it's something that men won't even engage it. Yeah, right, 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.840 because it's so because it's so easy tone the website, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.760 find them on websites now, So. 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.159 Tell us what it was like to then. And this 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:04.760 is what I tell you, This is what I tell 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:06.960 my daughters now. Because I call my daughters. I tell 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.040 my daughters. Now I'll be like, girl, y'all don't know anything. 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.960 The street walk, that street walk in life was. I 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:14.960 tell you that I've had some of the best sex 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.480 on the hood of a cargo. Stop it behind the 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.080 dumpster the KFC. Girl, Honey, I could see it well 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.240 because I and that's what made me have these fantasies 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.879 about men having their pants around their ankles. Girl, you 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:30.960 got to hear it and go listen. Even when I'm 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:32.920 in a relationship with a man, I love him to 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:34.040 to fuck me like a horror. 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.960 I need that. I know a horror. Give details. What 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.040 is being fun like a baby pulling the pants around 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.359 their ankle. Let me tell they did. Let me so 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:43.439 you're not getting all the way. 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.440 They just come fuck. Just trash me out. We could 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.919 we could cuddle after it's done, because you're my husband. 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.480 But don't trash me out. Trash me out. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.959 Tell me about a time that you felt like it 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:57.840 was getting too crazy, like someone had too wild. 0:18:58.080 --> 0:18:58.399 Request. 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.040 Here's the thing, right, So I'm gonna take you from 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.640 publics down this lane. 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.720