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Speaker 2: I mean you could do that, but also it's a

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Speaker 2: that Horrible Decisions today Maybe is the motherfucking Florida y'all

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Speaker 2: know we some Florida bitches here and we are joined

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Speaker 2: by being Florida bitch.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the big dig.

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Speaker 3: Bitch, the big dig bitches Day County.

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Speaker 1: Now hold on, now you know we some fall seven

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Speaker 1: Chapa City girls.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you are from the real city of Florida, though

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Speaker 2: not be in the real city of US are technically Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: Is the capital. Technically wait what's teas, it is not.

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Speaker 3: More for the record, I just want to let it

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Speaker 3: be known that day County is its own thing.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can't fear your tells us every count

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Speaker 1: We're not even in Florida. We just in DA.

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Speaker 2: We have to tell y'all who we have in ability

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Speaker 2: because it's years overdue.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, overdue.

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Speaker 2: Yes we are with the one and only everybody's favorite

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Speaker 2: Internet personality, everybody's favorite.

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Speaker 1: Comedian and just all of it.

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Speaker 2: We just love who you are, and I think seeing

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Speaker 2: you over the years, even though you're a common section,

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Speaker 2: they're like, oh my god, bitch.

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Speaker 1: Where are you now? This is what Gatala is.

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Speaker 2: This just your growth and everything, and it's like you've

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Speaker 2: always been beautiful, but now just glowing and shining. Gods,

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Speaker 3: Tea ass. Let me tell y'all something I have watched you, ladies.

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Speaker 3: I have watched the way that you have had guests

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Speaker 3: on your show, certain guests, not certain guests, certain, yes,

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Speaker 3: not certain guests. And I love the way that you

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Speaker 3: you your ladies, hold your own I love the way

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Speaker 3: that you you stand and who you are, and I

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Speaker 3: love the way that you get on social media and you

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Speaker 3: don't give a fuck who called and you call it, oh, hello, Andrew,

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Speaker 3: and and and that's what's something. That's the type of

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Speaker 3: energy that I've I've always been on. Your energy is

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Speaker 3: as always well.

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Speaker 2: And at this point, it probably is something in the

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Speaker 2: water in Florida.

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Speaker 1: It's Florida. You know, it's the Florida's Florida water.

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Speaker 2: It's just I did want to start there because you

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Speaker 2: do have and we're gonna go through all types of

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Speaker 2: been needing to talk. Yes, So let's start with Florida

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Speaker 2: because you have an experience in Orlando.

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Speaker 1: You brought up, you brought up somewhere that I.

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Speaker 2: Listen to give the line text, y'all listen. In Orlando, Florida,

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Speaker 2: there's a place called Orange Blossom Trail.

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Speaker 1: So that's what y'all call it. No, I called obt. Oh,

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Speaker 2: And when Maby just said, oh, I used to be

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Speaker 1: And was getting to the money. So my mom.

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Speaker 3: I've always known, But I'm glad that I have the

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Speaker 3: I didn't want that life for me. That's not what

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Speaker 3: I used to look down on strippers and hookers. I

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Speaker 3: And you're having like a lot of battles with on

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Speaker 1: Like why am I not I have brothers? Like why

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Speaker 1: Why am I not like my cousins? Like what's what's wrong?

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Speaker 2: Know that I knew when you said, you know, I

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Speaker 3: Yes, and it was. And because I'm from you got

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Speaker 3: to remember, we're in twenty twenty four, thirty years ago,

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Speaker 1: Of and it was bourbage then transsexual, oh honey, cross

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Speaker 3: Like all of the new age terms that we have now,

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Speaker 2: Going into that was was it because it seventeen eighteen

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Speaker 1: You're transitioning.

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Speaker 2: Were you going to the mall in different places and

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Speaker 3: Well, it was it was definitely because of how it

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Speaker 3: Publics, y'all don't like the Okay, I mean, I still

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Speaker 3: I remember having an altercation with a customer at the counter

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Speaker 3: Because I was just paying that whole dust that was

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Speaker 3: And so my manager was like, who are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: At the time, I was said, fuck that puss sass

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Speaker 1: I knew I was still real. I knew that girl.

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Speaker 3: So they took me to the office in the back

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Speaker 3: or whatever, and they was like, uh, because my name,

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Speaker 3: my former name was Timothy, and I'm open about all

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to, like be more Timothy. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, You're gonna have to. So I'm like, bitch, how

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Speaker 1: But I did put Timothy on the application, girl, But

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Speaker 3: But see, this is what y'all gotta understand. I want

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Speaker 1: I think it's the intrigue, the intriguing of what are you?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean I don't want the trans community. No,

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Speaker 2: It's not and that's listen, Flaming Road right, he'll be

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Speaker 2: like Blaming Road came on and said the things she said.

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't be a flame counting the same.

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Speaker 2: But we also just had Danielle and Dominikon who have

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Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, you're never gonna

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Speaker 1: Wow, you're not a real woman. You'll never be a

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Speaker 2: They want to go straight to calling bitch is back single,

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Speaker 1: The fascination? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Are regular girls really don't They may not do it

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Speaker 2: The lady boys are like what is what the men

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Speaker 2: this is when I studied abroad. I was what twenty five,

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Speaker 2: be accepted by his parents by it. Took him to

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Speaker 1: Apparently I can't, you know, promote it. But yeah, like

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Speaker 1: you're talking about no, no, no, no, no no, wait, I

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Speaker 2: Oh you're telling me something I don't know? Gird that's

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Speaker 1: I heard that Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: That's what I heard on next Thursday. Okay, even always

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Speaker 1: Why is it always Thursdays? Is that a thing? Is

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Speaker 1: but then I'm not looking watching have you have you

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Speaker 1: hosted like I've hosted that, I've hosted like I've like

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Speaker 1: I hosted an event in the in the clubs, you know,

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Speaker 1: but but I'm never gonna work in there because I

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Speaker 2: They are, and so I want to take a step back, then,

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Speaker 2: because navigating them from going to the streets to having

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Speaker 2: how'd you go from from OBT to.

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Speaker 1: Can we start at OBT?

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Speaker 3: It was no, it was seventy ninth Street then ob

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Speaker 3: because baby, we listen when Miami would listen when Miami

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Speaker 2: We want to hear about the culture of this because

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Speaker 1: Brown ship to anybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want to either talk about it or

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Speaker 2: because it's so because it's so easy tone the website,

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Speaker 3: Tell us what it was like to then. And this

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Speaker 3: The street walk, that street walk in life was. I

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Speaker 3: tell you that I've had some of the best sex

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Speaker 3: to fuck me like a horror.

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Speaker 1: I need that. I know a horror. Give details. What

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Speaker 3: They just come fuck. Just trash me out. We could

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Speaker 3: But don't trash me out. Trash me out.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about a time that you felt like it

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Speaker 1: Request.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, right, So I'm gonna take you from

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Speaker 1: I want to go. So we so I got fired

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Speaker 1: I used to be like what you is? What what

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Speaker 3: And so we ended up, you know, getting into some things.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm young, so I don't know. You know, I've

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Speaker 3: To great, I'm not there. I'm not I'm not that boy,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what you give me fifty dollars for I

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, because I know they let you

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Speaker 3: guy was requesting at the time that she, you know,

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00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 3: have another well and down girl. And so they knew

440
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 3: that I was a welling dow girl. And so I

441
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 3: went down there whatever, and we we had a three

442
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 3: and then that she gave me money.

443
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, how much? How much? Back then? What she

444
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: gave me? One hundred dollars?

445
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know what, Like, yeah, I didn't know, you know,

446
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 3: but she gave me a hundred. So I'm like, you know, so,

447
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: you know, so I'm slowly introduced into prostitution. But I'm

448
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 3: still trying to be in and out of drag because

449
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 3: now I'm out on my own, so I have to work,

450
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: you know. So I'm trying to, you know, work at

451
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: different places to pay my rent, you know. And we

452
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 3: used to ride out on the beat and I would

453
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,479
Speaker 3: see other trends, Like I'm from down south. I used

454
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 3: to drive up north and I would see all these

455
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 3: other trans women and they were having like these bathing

456
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 3: suits and ship like that. I was like, they were

457
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: so much more advanced, and I was.

458
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: Like, these are man. Excuse me, right, I'm not gonna

459
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 1: keep doing this.

460
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: And I feel like it's so important because PC language,

461
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 2: we get it, we know it.

462
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: But I love learning where you started.

463
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 3: And so I'm just gonna make this. I'm not gonna

464
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: keep doing this. I'm just gonna tell my motherfucker please please.

465
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 2: See the men were gay if they wanted anal sex,

466
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: and now I'll be asking for it once a quarter,

467
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 2: you know.

468
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: So here we go.

469
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: I love advanced I love advanced women. So let's get

470
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Speaker 3: into and so, you know, bitch, let.

471
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Speaker 1: Me get these checks. I was like, oh my god,

472
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 1: these are man, these are man, like, how did this happen.

473
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: I want to do. I want more, like you know

474
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I want to be passed. I want

475
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,479
Speaker 1: to be you know. But I'm like, why are they

476
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: selling their bodies on the street? Like why are you walking?

477
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: You didn'tstand, I didn't really like why are y'all prostitutes

478
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 1: on the street? Like what's what's going on here? Looks

479
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: so good?

480
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 3: That's yeah, Like what's like why y'all ain't got no

481
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: man taking care of you? Like, you know what I'm saying,

482
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: Like you there's no way possible that you are am

483
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: in you know, because you so you know, child, going

484
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: through the life, getting involved, getting work, getting the things,

485
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: advancing more, and it's just like you get to the

486
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,479
Speaker 3: job and you've advanced more, your titties are big, your

487
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: hips is big, and you guming that bitch and at

488
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: the time, and I'm a floorda bitch, right, So I

489
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 3: didn't change my name at the time. I just celebrated

490
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: my one year anniversary on the eighteenth of April for

491
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: changing my name really legally, you just said that at

492
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: forty six.

493
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: Really what took you? Song? My mom?

494
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Speaker 2: Can you explain a little bit more about it? I

495
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 2: didn't want to.

496
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: I felt I didn't want to disrespect her. Okay, I

497
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: have a very close relationship with my mom. I didn't

498
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: want to disrespect her because I felt that, you know,

499
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: she gave me that and I was hers and she

500
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: gave me that name. And then you know, and you know,

501
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: she said that that Timothy means honor God, and you

502
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: know all this stuff, you know. So I struggled with

503
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: that for a very long time. I even did it

504
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: even on my television show. I talked to her about it,

505
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, because did you go and finally what was

506
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: the conversation?

507
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 3: Then to ask on the television on the television show,

508
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: I talked to her, I said, Mommy, I've been living

509
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 3: this life and which television show on my own television show,

510
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: my own television show, the TS Madison Experience, the experience

511
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: I have the first black transgender woman to executive produce

512
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: and start in her own reality on Earth.

513
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: Let's go on we TV, Let's go, Let's go on Earth.

514
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: So you have this conversation life, yeah.

515
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Speaker 1: On TV.

516
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: And so I'm telling her, like, you know, I need to,

517
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: you know, and then even after the show wrapped and

518
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 3: then and we we were finished or whatever, I still

519
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: didn't go do it. Wow, it was only to right

520
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 3: up until recently where the where where the legislations are

521
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: changing everything. It's anti trans and anti d you know,

522
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 3: so yeah, anti trans lost and I'm and I say

523
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: this with with with humility, I'm a passable trans woman

524
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 3: and so you know, I when I pull out my ID,

525
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: I used to do it for shock value, like hey, Timothy,

526
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: but now it's just like you know, and cause you

527
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 3: be like you know, but now when I pull out

528
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: my ID, like no one's paying it any attention. And

529
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: the only reason why people know a lot about me

530
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 3: is because one day know big dig bitch dot com, right,

531
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: or two because I'm famous for other for other things

532
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: and big dig bitch dot com. But if I was

533
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: just strolling through, you ain't. Just you're not thinking twice

534
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: about me being born male?

535
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: You know, seeing you.

536
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: Get emotional just now, like I could see you tearing

537
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: up there thinking me want to tear up and talking

538
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: about the respect that you have for your mom. I've

539
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 2: been loving watching throw out a Carmichael show, not because

540
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying him so much, but just kind of this

541
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: like mental breakdown to get to see. Yeah, but one

542
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: of the things that's so difficult to watch is his

543
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: respect with his mom. Yeah, and so just to know

544
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: how much you've been through and how important you are

545
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: in the community for.

546
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: People to respect your mom this many years and hold that.

547
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: It just really shows me that a lot of people

548
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: can be selfish with their queerness. They're coming out, and

549
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: I think we've got to give parents a little more grace.

550
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: So that's why when you were saying, I'm not saying

551
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: this to anybody, I almost feel like I'm even going

552
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: in the reverse because I understand that, like other people

553
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: are moving slower, and I don't want to shit on

554
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 2: them because they're not where weird at. And I feel

555
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: like we shunned so many people away because we're forcing

556
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: them to be here with us. I'm weird with the

557
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: word grace, and I want to dig into do you

558
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: not feel or was there a conversation because you were

559
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: pushed out of the home because of your transition. Is

560
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: there not any blame or anger that you have for

561
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 2: that experience with having to go on the trail and

562
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: having to go through sex work and having to have

563
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: that experience because she judged you in that moment when

564
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: I was younger, made okay because you get over that too.

565
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: Well. I the way it helped me get past it

566
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: was I had to put myself in her shoes and this, like,

567
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: you know, my mother is a devout Christian and me

568
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: was a huge challenge me. Okay, that's a challenge to

569
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: a Christian. Yes, how can you love God? How can

570
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: you win souls? How can you just you can't even

571
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: save your own child?

572
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 3: Right, I'm on now, this is this is me now

573
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: thinking then, I was, you know, mad, and I was

574
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: just like, well, I'm gonna it's me and fuck y'all.

575
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Fuck all, y'all, I'm gonna

576
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: get out here, I'm gonna work.

577
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a whatever. You know now, I'm a

578
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: whore hooker. I didn't want to do I didn't want

579
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: to do any of that. None of that.

580
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 3: I didn't want to do any of that. So I

581
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 3: wanted the people that are out there to watch it

582
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 3: to know that was not my life choice. I did

583
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: not want to do that. However, at forty and now

584
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: looking that was a path that was carved out for

585
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: me from the creator. And when I think about it

586
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: in this space, I think about how many people have

587
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 3: watched me, from you ladies, to other trans women to

588
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: hetero so many heterosexual people to superstars. It is whose

589
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: lives that I've changed just by me existing. And so

590
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: when I get to the space that I am now

591
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: to occupy lots of public, big platforms, television and all

592
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: that type of stuff. If I didn't have any of that,

593
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: yeah testimony, I wouldn't have no story to tell or

594
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: to I wouldn't have a place to help deliver other people.

595
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: So I've gotten to a place in my life now

596
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: just recently, and I still have my struggle moments where

597
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I understand that the journey has really nothing to do

598
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: with me. And when you're called on a journey to

599
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: do something from the Creator, it has it's it has

600
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: its role. Right, So I'm not mad at my mother. Okay,

601
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: she only did what was supposed to do with what

602
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: she knew, what she knew to do, and she had

603
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: to say goodbye it. Yes, she did what was she

604
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: had to do and what the Creator put me inside

605
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: of her to do for the world. She didn't know

606
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: that she had to have that difficult journey. I didn't

607
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: know that, you know, I didn't start realizing that there

608
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: was purpose behind me until twenty fourteen. I know that

609
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know that Big Dig Bitch dot com or

610
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: do what it did. Like I was a millionaire when

611
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: I was in my twenty foot did Big Dig Bitch

612
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: for nobody?

613
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: Dot Com was an adult pace site that I created

614
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: when I was home little girl girl.

615
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: I listened, y'all, but what was that your So I

616
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: want to tell you the one scene what I did.

617
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: I was in the back of like a really big house.

618
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was your house mine, Okay,

619
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: and it was and and it was weird because you

620
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: shot at it at night time.

621
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: But I remember you laid something out.

622
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you was sucking this fine, light

623
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: skinned man and I think he out of head brains.

624
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: Do you know the scene I'm talking about? Oh my god,

625
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 2: he do you remember?

626
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: You?

627
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: You know exactly the se and I was like, this

628
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: is shot so but you got up on top rolled him.

629
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: I laid it was like a with mosquitos and ship outside.

630
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: It was so homemade. But the man was dick was big.

631
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I paved the way for these only

632
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: fan girls talk ship. I did well in you and

633
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: this was a time where we still had the porn

634
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: star era.

635
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: You said, no, I'm going own my own. Yes, I

636
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: at the time was not finding any other trends. Women

637
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: on the no black wearing a wig, but they weren't living.

638
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: They weren't living as a trans not the black ones.

639
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: And here's the thing. All that is part of my journey.

640
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: Let me tell you why.

641
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: After the firings and after the jobs, and after all

642
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: the stuff or whatever, and after the the you know,

643
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: the being homeless and stuff, I threw myself into All right, well,

644
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: if I'm if this is what I'm gonna do, this

645
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: is what I'm gonna do. So I need more ass,

646
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: more tits, more bodies. I ended up getting sick from silicon.

647
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: I got silicone poison. No, I ended up getting sick.

648
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: I ended up, you know, having to move back home.

649
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: But with with everything, with.

650
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: Everything, I came back home with everything, I was skinny.

651
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: I was like one hundred and thirty seven pounds. Wow.

652
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: And and this is how me and my mother reunited.

653
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: As I had been out of the world, I came

654
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: back home. I was about twenty two. And I remember

655
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: me because you know, I'm from the time where AIDS

656
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: HIV was like h it was no HIV, it was

657
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: just AID.

658
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just said it and then you would and

659
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: then you would die and you would die.

660
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: And so you know, everybody talked about, you know, don't

661
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: be a because you go out there and be a

662
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: you're gonna die of AIDS. So me coming home sick

663
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: and skinny, so you know, your parents is thinking like,

664
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: oh God, my child has AIDS, like because because you

665
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: were sick. Yeah, but this was not the case. I

666
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: was silicone points, did you know what's wrong with you?

667
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: Well?

668
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: I went to the hospital because I had like like

669
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: like if you see the stories now, like the stories

670
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: are people tell the stories or whatever?

671
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: Well, I want to well, you go into the hospital

672
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: or transitioning in the nineties.

673
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, how did they Well you go into the hospital

674
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: with open wounds from where this stuff is open and

675
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: it is leaking on you and stuff like that or whatever,

676
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: and then you're hearing like during that time, like so

677
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: many people were dying like of back right doors, object

678
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: shacks or whatever, you know.

679
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: And and then I come home poisoned.

680
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: I tried to do everything I could not to come home,

681
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: but I just I went back to my apartment.

682
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: I was so sick, like I was so sick. I

683
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: was so small, I couldn't move.

684
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: I had like open wounds on my body, you know,

685
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: from it, you know, and I and I still have

686
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: those scars. I kept those scars on me, and I

687
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: kept those scars to remind older me where younger me was.

688
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: I and I because I could have had skin grafts

689
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: and had that shit, you know. But I decided to

690
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: keep those things because those are those are my those

691
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: are my war wounds and the reminders of bitch. Don't

692
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: you ever even when you because it's it gets addicted

693
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: like tattoos. That's why there's so many big bodies and

694
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: so many big because it gets addicted. So I came home.

695
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: I remember my aunt. I moved in the house with

696
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: my aunt, and I was laying in the bed back there,

697
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 3: and my mother came in and she just broke into

698
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: tears because I was laying in the bed like I

699
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: was a patient. I was skinny. I've had big pads

700
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: laying on me. What I was just leaking. And the

701
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: doctors at the time don't know how to how do

702
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: you know how to get how do you know how

703
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: to do this? And you're a man, how do you

704
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 3: know how to do this?

705
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck? What are you anyway? Like, what's

706
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: going on here? You know? You who did this to you?

707
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 1: That treatment was even coming from the doctors? Yeah, who

708
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: did this to you?

709
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: Like?

710
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: Why would you even lay down and let somebody do

711
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: this to you? Like, you know, it's like I don't

712
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: want to explain nothing. You don't understand. Some home, you know,

713
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: and my aunt is washing my wounds whatever. My mother

714
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: comes in and then she just burst into tears and

715
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: we had a moment and and she said to me

716
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: that I would never have to walk in the world

717
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 3: alone again.

718
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, Tis, you can't be coming here like y'all.

719
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: But you know, you know, these are these things happen. Yeah,

720
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I'm still young, I still am

721
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: trans I still want things, you know. So I heal up.

722
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: And when I heal up, I told my aunt, I said,

723
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't live here in Miami. I can't

724
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: live here. I can't.

725
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: It's nothing from me because I'm going to get back

726
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: into the same ship I'm gonna be, you know, I

727
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: can't live I moved to Atlanta. I never walked the

728
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: streets again. Wow, what was it about Atlanta that felt

729
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: like you.

730
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: I met a girl here. I met like everybody. Oh

731
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: my god, when I think about people that are placed

732
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: divinely in your mm hmmm. I met a queen here. Ironically,

733
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: I met a queen here through a friend that was

734
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: dating and a guy. She was from Florida and she

735
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: moved up here and she was dating a guy and

736
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: the guy was a trans chaser. Girl, Honey, I don't

737
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: know how he found my number. I heard chase. Wait,

738
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: I've heard chubby chaser. This trans chasers. It was another

739
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: word for it was a training chasers. Okay, chaser, you

740
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: know things done.

741
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: So you got my number through the girl and it's

742
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, vegetar.

743
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: He was calling me in Florida, So I'm like, who

744
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: is this calling?

745
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: Like?

746
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: What is anyway? So my so my girlfriends like, come

747
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: on up here. You know this is my boyfriend. You know,

748
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck?

749
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: I come up here to Atlanta.

750
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: And I meet who she was living with and my

751
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: it was ts Eve this who introduced me to all

752
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 3: the porn self she was living with her. My friend

753
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: ironically went back to Florida, got.

754
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: Pumped and died the wow got pumped like injection. Yeah, pump.

755
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: I just healed up from it. She went back to Florida,

756
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: went down there and got pumped died. Wow.

757
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: So me and missus Eve become with friends, right and

758
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 3: she says to me, Uh, I said, girl, I can't

759
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: live down there in Florida no more, girl, whatever.

760
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: I'm on tour right now.

761
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 3: Like as soon as I healed up whatever scab came

762
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: over those those those pump sores, I was up the cell.

763
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: I was, I walked. I was back walking the sidewalk again,

764
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: and I was like, I can't keep fucking doing this.

765
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: You know.

766
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 3: I went to Georgia. I came up here to Georgia.

767
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 3: She introduced me to Creative Loafing, and and uh, what

768
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: do you say? Creative Loafing created the Excitement magazine? Like

769
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: all these all these publications where men by transactuals. So sheed,

770
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: but is it is it like a classified as they

771
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: were classified. She started introducing me to these things. You know,

772
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: she was an advanced whoor. I was just you know,

773
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: I was a street walk right now. It was just

774
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 3: like this is safer for you. Yeah, and being on

775
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: the street. Yeah, you know, I don't walk, ob t,

776
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 3: I don't walk so.

777
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: Real quick the classified for trans women.

778
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: I know, like I'm familiar with heroes we knew about

779
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: back in the day, but these were specific for trans women.

780
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: And were was it men looking for transit?

781
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? Or you can go into truck stops like it's

782
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: like a lot of the truckers, like a lot of

783
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: the truck drivers that would come and they would call

784
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: it was a magazine called hot Chocolate. It was just

785
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: a bunch off.

786
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: Were these magazines they were in certain there were some

787
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: of the random gay clubs too, magazine.

788
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: When some of them were in the game, listen some

789
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: of them. But here's the thing. This is where this

790
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 3: is the I didn't know about it. This is where

791
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: the the not the consumer, but this is where the

792
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: seller started to understand the consumer. Ain't no straight man

793
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 3: going to no gay Bob. Put that ship in the

794
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: sex store. Oh he's going in the sex store.

795
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: That's exactly where he's going.

796
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: He ain't going in the gay look because ain't no

797
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: straight ain't no gay man, want no transsexual. Sorry, ladies,

798
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: say it again, there's no gay man again. So there

799
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: ain't no gay man, want no transsexual. And if he does,

800
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: he's not a gay man.

801
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: He's fluid.

802
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: Okay, do you believe that we should have their by

803
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: gay and then there should be something for trans attracting.

804
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm in fluid.

805
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: No.

806
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: I think that he still should have his the ability

807
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 3: to consider himself straight because we're female presenting regardless of

808
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: wherever he goes presenting.

809
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: Yes, but what about needing intrinsically likes not no longer

810
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 2: attracted to trans women that are postop that wants dick.

811
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: So that's and that's what's gonna be my question too,

812
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: because you can be attracted and date and have sex

813
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: with trans women, right because there are women. However, even

814
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: to me, when I peg men when I'm penetrating a man,

815
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: oh I love baby peg the stallion. Hello, when I'm

816
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: penetrating a man, that's the question I get. Even though

817
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: I'm a woman with a vagina and I'm using a

818
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: plastic strap. The number one question is, well, aren't they gathing?

819
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: And so then what do you differentiate between men who

820
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: are tops and bottoms who deal with trans women?

821
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: I think that sexuality and and and and sexual pleasure

822
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: is different, like like.

823
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: Whatever, sexuality and sexual pleasure different.

824
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 3: Because here's the thing, like I talked to you earlier

825
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 3: about me, I have I like feed, I will, Yeah,

826
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 3: I like.

827
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: I like I get a I can put the soul

828
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: of a foot under my nose and I can have

829
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: an erection.

830
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: Wow, seriously, because I need to be a certain type

831
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 2: of Do you like scent?

832
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: Do you like I like the way I like the

833
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: way of foot smells after being in the nice you.

834
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: Okay, the size matter, just blink of the toes matter.

835
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: I need to know your foot, pettig.

836
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: You are crazy.

837
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: I like all types of feet. I like men's feet.

838
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: Like I follow up. I follow up a website.

839
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: I mean a page it's called trapped trapped feet and

840
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: slides feet and slide. Yeah, I follow that because they

841
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: have it's like trap a trap like boy like, I

842
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: like it's like that. Ain't the nice got the stuff

843
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: you said?

844
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: You know?

845
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 3: They they be on their they be in their shoes

846
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: and some of the trap trap feet, trapped feet and slide.

847
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: You see it, I do when you see it, says

848
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: followed by me, hold on, wait, you gotta find the

849
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: other one. But not the niggas in jail. It's a

850
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: lot of niggas in jail, and they feed. It's it's

851
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: a lot of uh. Okay, they should come they this.

852
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: I like seat toes. Do you like toe jo? Like

853
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: for jobs?

854
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: I have had a foot job done by me that

855
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 3: knew how to do it like that was into trans

856
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: girls that like that knew how to give me a

857
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: foot job. You know I've given men foot jobs, you know.

858
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: I mean I got into a I got into that

859
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: footship like a guy did that to me by like

860
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 3: in my feet. I was like, get off on my feet,

861
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 3: and then you said it. Then I was like, he's right,

862
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 3: you see look it's a cute feet.

863
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: I ain't go okay, it's crazy.

864
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: Is men do not have very nice feat A lot

865
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: like they be having a little black toenails and ship.

866
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: They be ashy. Can I tell you something?

867
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 4: You like it?

868
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: Like that?

869
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: Sometimes a little bit a little like a little dark

870
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: skin toe you like a little bit a little on

871
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: the dark skids.

872
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: Because I know he can't help that. I know he

873
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: can't help that. It's like tiger stripes on a woman.

874
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 3: He can't help that he got a little He can't

875
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: help that. He ain't mean that that's the one you

876
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 3: still put it? No, I just rub it on my

877
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: titties and stuff like that. Have you ever have you

878
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 3: ever put a toe. Have you to about you never

879
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 3: put it.

880
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: To on your button because I don't want it to

881
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to toe to penetrate me. I put

882
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: my toe and he sat on my foot. Yeah he's yeah,

883
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: he was, but it was it was a little weird.

884
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: I said, niggas kind of raised my pussy when I

885
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: like when I'm sucking dick, and I'm just like, I

886
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: don't want.

887
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Your pussy, but I definitely like fee on me. I

888
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: don't care.

889
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: I've noticed men, especially like in missionary, they love them

890
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: feet on their face. So that's why I told you

891
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: hearing that that's a fetish for men right now, and

892
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: why I called it vanilla.

893
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: That's how it started.

894
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: I'm telling her how I just went out with a

895
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: guy who likes feet and I was like, oh, that's

896
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: vanilla because a lot of men now are like putting

897
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: toes and mouths and yeah, totally like like faces.

898
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 3: But my man got me into it. Oh a man

899
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: did that to me? Made you like yes, because he

900
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: started sucking my toes and I got any rection and

901
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: I was like, I mean, she saw my first foot experience.

902
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 3: I sucked my friend's toes.

903
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: In a pool and then I was like, oh my god,

904
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: this wasn't that.

905
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: We were at a sex resort, were in make resort,

906
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: and I don't know why. I don't We was in

907
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: a pool, so I don't even know how her foot

908
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: got even near.

909
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: My mouth because you were drunk, bitch, I don't know

910
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: how that happened. I don't know. Wait, wasn't there.

911
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: Guy my toes at the pool first? I think that's

912
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: how I'm gonna tell you this.

913
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: Man, I know, I know.

914
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: After I saw the foot in the foot, I said,

915
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 2: let me get let me get it. I just thought

916
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 2: I was neck.

917
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: She was like time to go.

918
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: You thought I was gonna suck your tone, No, not you.

919
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: I just thought there was abody suck man.

920
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: Then we started girl. So I'm looking at other people like, okay,

921
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: well somebody's.

922
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: Foot in and side by the way, this is crazy

923
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: that this is what happened that sex uh sex resorts?

924
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: Well, ship, you know you have a COMEANX side. Can

925
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: I tell y'all that I'm so reserved now, Oh my god,

926
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm being honest. You are a little too lip for

927
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: a sex resort. I'm reserved now. I want to tell

928
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: you I've done I've done it. So reserve means now

929
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: that you've got it out of your system, you just

930
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: want one. Oh I don't want to do all it.

931
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: It's exhausted.

932
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: Let me tell you why, because even through all of that,

933
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 3: I had to I had to teach you myself how

934
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: to not have feelings emotions so much so the majority

935
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: of my life I have been detached emotions, detached emotionally,

936
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: there's no feeling, there's no connection I had.

937
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: I've had to detach myself. I have not one trans

938
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: woman friend that doesn't say this.

939
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to detach myself from that. And so

940
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: majority of my life I've lived my life in detachment

941
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: from emotion and love from a partner. So I'm learning

942
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 3: this stuff now. I'm learning.

943
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: Maddy, we got to talk because this is what I'm

944
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: doing dealing with with the book right now.

945
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: The podcast being in your twenties and maybe I mean

946
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 2: they just went through my first relationship as an adult,

947
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: but having sex and it being transactional, the disconnect that

948
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: you have with how you feel like men should show

949
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: up for you, the treatment sometimes the value of yourself.

950
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: Once you really get that, now you can't go back.

951
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: I haven't had it. Wow, I thought I thought I

952
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: had it from a couple of gentlemen, but I haven't

953
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: had it still to this day. Like a true love,

954
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 1: I think it comes in the form of friends, okay,

955
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: but not in the form of partners. What makes you

956
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: What makes you say that? Because we we a lot

957
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: of Like what makes he say that? Like that's my

958
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: friend right there, but we're not sexual and he is

959
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: my also my bodyguard, but we're not sexual. We don't

960
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: have a sexual but we talk every day. Yes, And

961
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: but with partners, romantic partners, it doesn't have to get there.

962
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't have it interesting, I don't have it. Is

963
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: it because of how they are not prepared to be

964
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: with you? Is that what you find?

965
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 3: I think it's because you know, they are all so

966
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: emotionally damaged, because I do feel like it's an emotional

967
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: damage thing that's with me, you know, because I had

968
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: to be emotionally disconnected like that. I was seeing too

969
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: many men when I moved he to Atlanta. When I

970
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 3: came from Florida to Atlanta, and I and all that

971
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 3: books and my friend introduced me to all that ship,

972
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: and my phone was blowing up. I never walked the

973
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: streets again. And then I became the premier prostitute here

974
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: because I was from Florida, well and down hood.

975
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: Fun FUNQ. I went pretty in I'm gorgeous now because

976
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: I was skiing my money. Of course, you know what

977
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Changed, Okay, it's special. Yeah. I want to

978
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: ask you something that you asked Mandy and I off camera.

979
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: Do you want kids to when you.

980
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 3: Grow and you start being a business woman and stuff

981
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 3: and you start obtaining assets and homes and all this stuff,

982
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: and you're like, damn when I die, ain't nobody gonna

983
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: get this.

984
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't have nobody to take that on.

985
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: Maybe only because of that, I ask you because but

986
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: that's the thing, the idea of those material things. When

987
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: when I get asked that same question and it's like, well,

988
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: what are you what are you leaving behind, Maddie, everything

989
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: you've done, like you've left things that are gonna transcend

990
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: a home, you know what I mean?

991
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: The content that you released isn't going anywhere you Somebody's

992
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: gonna watch this and be like this and it's you

993
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

994
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: And this all exists beyond us. Like whenever that's asked,

995
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 2: the businesses that you have the lives you've changed. Those

996
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 2: things are what you're leaving behind to care about, where

997
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna leave a house, what all you've done, and

998
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 2: how you've navigated your life. When you said that this

999
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: is your path that God has given you, I relate

1000
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: so much in that because I do believe that you

1001
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: were here to change so much more than just raise

1002
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: one life. And you also give know how many you

1003
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 2: know how impactful you are. But this is just a

1004
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: small little thing to tell you. I went to go

1005
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: see Was It Bros. With Billy Aikner, and it was

1006
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 2: one of the first gay feature films of all time.

1007
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: Like in a theater I would see by myself in

1008
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: New York. I'm in a West village, imime, this would

1009
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: be fun. Where in the West village? You know it's

1010
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: it's pretty white. But there was a black dude next

1011
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: to me when you came up on the screen. Him

1012
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: and I both man at the same time, and he

1013
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: turned to me, goes.

1014
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: Can you leave this bitch?

1015
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 2: Used to do por right, and I'm laughing. And after

1016
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: the movie he was like, I really wasn't ready to

1017
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: see that. He's like, I knew it was a white movie.

1018
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: I knew black people, but like this bitch really was

1019
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: just in the movie theater and you see TV and

1020
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 2: now streaming, it's like it's nothing.

1021
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: But when that moment happened, I was like, can there

1022
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: be another one of you? Yeah?

1023
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: Special, I think because there's no because there's no one

1024
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: like right now, like coming from pornographic movies.

1025
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm the only one.

1026
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: And I love that you literally like even when you're

1027
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: searched now, and I think this is so fascinating because

1028
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: there are so many people who have tried to navigate

1029
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 2: and change uh mainstream and go from porn to mainstream media.

1030
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: When you search you now it's actress. It's not adult action.

1031
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: It is actress, and that's it. Nothing before No, I

1032
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: did the work. Let me tell you why I did

1033
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: the work. I did the work at the same amount

1034
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: of energy I put into making myself infamous for being

1035
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: Big Day Bitch dot Com. I put that same energy,

1036
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you very Kim Kardashian of you.

1037
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: I went to my mother and I said, Mommy, after like,

1038
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: after all this stuff in the Big Day Bitch dot Com,

1039
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: and then my life changed with Vine.

1040
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how much time we got right,

1041
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: my life changed through vine ourself. I went to my

1042
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: mommy and I said, Mommy, listen to me. I don't

1043
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: want to do no more. I don't want to do

1044
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: it no more. I'm tired of it and I'm tired

1045
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: of men touching me. I'm tired of men being having

1046
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: the ability to touch me and touch because I I

1047
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: don't think I'm above no bitch, but I know I am.

1048
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: And them put the assholes that used to tell they

1049
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: used to think that we were the same. I told

1050
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: you we was never the same. And the only thing

1051
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: that kept me the same with them was niggas being

1052
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: able to call my soul. I said, I want to

1053
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: do this, bitch. I see that I don't want to

1054
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: do this. Please, I called. I told my mommy. Me

1055
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: and my mother held hands like two grand high priests

1056
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: and pray and she said, if you serious about you

1057
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: not want to do this no more, I'm going to

1058
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: go to God. And I went right there with God too.

1059
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 3: I haven't done porn in over a decade, maybe twenty thirteen,

1060
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 3: maybe somewhere, maybe like because I had stopped when I

1061
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: when I started getting mainstream.

1062
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: Like, what did you want?

1063
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: Did you want to be a personality? Did you want

1064
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 2: to be an actress. I just didn't want to do porn.

1065
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was. I mean, I mean,

1066
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: and then I do want to lean.

1067
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: Into the advocacy because you speak out a lot about

1068
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 2: people who.

1069
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: That happened to twenty fourteen. I'll tell you why. Okay,

1070
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. It happened because the world was changing. I'm

1071
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: trying to see where I was. Laverne was on the

1072
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 1: cover of Laverne Cox was on the cover of Time magazine,

1073
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: and that's the time when I was doing a vine

1074
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: and then my shit was popping up and I.

1075
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: Was New Weave twenty two inches. Yes, this is how

1076
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: a lot of people from mainstream found me. From New

1077
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 3: Weave nor Wave twenty two inches. Yes, but I was

1078
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: still promoting the little second video. Yeah, I was still

1079
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: promoting poorn at the time. And so the conversation became

1080
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 3: because that's funny that that ship here. I mean, I

1081
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 3: was world wide overnight. How you feel you see that?

1082
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: Who was it? Who owns Twitter?

1083
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 2: Now?

1084
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: No, it's not.

1085
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Jack, I think just tweeted something. I don't

1086
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 2: know what he's still involved with. Oh Facebook, Mark just

1087
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: tweeted making the quote making a poll.

1088
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: About bringing vine back, I would would you? Would you?

1089
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: Knowing that we are still so short form content. Now,

1090
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: I know you have your show, we know TikTok going

1091
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: over there. Okay, I'm gonna be honest. I want TikTok

1092
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: to go.

1093
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: You want TikTok to go.

1094
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: I've made a lot of comments. I had my best

1095
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: seller and I learned it from TikTok. Just sell it

1096
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: out eat every week, giving me the It's not that

1097
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: I don't enjoy using it.

1098
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: I don't want to stop anybody's money.

1099
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: But I just feel like we're all losing ourselves so much,

1100
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: and I feel like if we could just remove one

1101
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: more piece.

1102
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: I think too, But I don't want nobody's income to go.

1103
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: I don't want the income to go. A wait, that's it.

1104
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: But I think I just want people to just go

1105
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: back outside, learn what it's like to connect. Motherfuckers. It's weird.

1106
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: The reason that we've had so much trouble dating is

1107
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: ship like this. I really believe the podcast. No no, no,

1108
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 2: I don't believe this the podcast. I believe social media

1109
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: makes it very difficult for people to date.

1110
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1111
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: The way, the way that you interact and if we

1112
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: just had a little bit less. I actually thought to

1113
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: myself recently, the last three men I dated had no Instagram,

1114
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: and the man I'm with now is no Instagram. That

1115
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: must mean something like, yeah, a nigga, How am I

1116
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 2: get an attracted instagramm he was his other phone.

1117
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: He was using three different names.

1118
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know, like I think I must

1119
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: be attracted to people that are completely the opposite. I'm

1120
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 2: traumatized with his other phone. Give me the Instagram, I

1121
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: go hold you. My home girl just went on a

1122
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 2: date with a nigga. He said he had all this,

1123
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: all this, We couldn't find a LinkedIn his name. He

1124
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: was attached to some use. I said, girl here SyRI Killer. Nope,

1125
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: don't date him. Oh you know I had the FBI

1126
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: my nigga. Yeah, I told Mandy, I think, I said

1127
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 2: on the podcast. Because he has no profile anywhere, right,

1128
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: He's just We go to his mother's house.

1129
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: One day and I knew what house it was. He

1130
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: was like, how did you know the street? And It's like, oh,

1131
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: because I google the ship up this nigga.

1132
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: I found everything, the family tree or grandfather, that what

1133
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: his nieces look like.

1134
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: But it's because when you don't have social media.

1135
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 3: What oh god, I know you're gonna watch this baby,

1136
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 3: but or whatever. So I was dating this NFL guy here, okay.

1137
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: And that's how I found him. What you mean, that's

1138
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: how you found him.

1139
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,479
Speaker 3: That's how I found out who he was like, because

1140
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 3: he had sent me some money okay, and then he

1141
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: sent me some money again. Then he sent me some

1142
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 3: money again, and he had mixed all the names up

1143
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: because I had been out of the business and all

1144
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: this stuff happened like right after I got out of

1145
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: the business, like out of because I just didn't want

1146
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 3: to be and I just didn't want men touching me

1147
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 3: no more. Right, And so you know, we started sucking around,

1148
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: it started sexual well, and then we became friends and

1149
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 3: then you know, we got into a little situation and

1150
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 3: which which we both confirmed.

1151
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: Just recently that we was in a relationship. How did

1152
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: you meet him? Well, you know, he emailed me.

1153
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: Wait, this isn't who was confused? They was confused about

1154
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: you being with right, Okay.

1155
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: I no, I don't know. Yeah, you cleared that up.

1156
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: Oh wait that was you?

1157
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: Oh they confused okay, okay, okay, always okay, I know

1158
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: the tea is.

1159
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: They thought that Martell Hope and and me and me

1160
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: and got out and about and then and.

1161
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: Then the headline was so yucky because you're an advocate

1162
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: of the community. The tagline of it was that he's

1163
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,479
Speaker 2: trying to rebrand himself by aligning with a trans woman

1164
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 2: to like.

1165
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: And I was just like, Okay, I did too, and

1166
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: I jumped ahead. I saw you jumped up because I

1167
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: didn't like. Let me tell you how I jumped.

1168
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: I jumped ahead of that ship because I don't want

1169
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 3: to be I never And here's another reason why it's talk.

1170
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 3: I don't want to be attached to no man. That's

1171
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: why I know I don't. I don't like d o niggas.

1172
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 3: But I'm also not gonna be said, yeah, girl, I'm

1173
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 3: fucking such and such.

1174
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: That's not my swag.

1175
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 3: I want all you os out there to think that

1176
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 3: I'm fat, I'm old, that don't know men want me

1177
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 3: because you know I've been a point. I want all

1178
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,479
Speaker 3: y'all to think that they only won't sit and start,

1179
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 3: they only want to. I want y'all to only I

1180
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: want you to think that that's the only that them,

1181
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 3: the only ones they won't because I don't don't attach me.

1182
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: To none of them niggas. I don't want to just

1183
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to be attached to none of them niggas. Right,

1184
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: but please know that ain't the only Please but please

1185
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: know that, bitch, I was rich while while a lot

1186
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: of those girls when they were young transitioning.

1187
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: I was rich from niggas, m from from them with

1188
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: they ain't brand tags. But that's enough that, ain't That

1189
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: ain't a story that I'm ever gonna tell. No, I

1190
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: never want to be linked to no man and they

1191
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: and and then my talents are submerged and so great.

1192
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: Well and right now that's like the new the new thing,

1193
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: like the maybe Mama exposing whoever. Like women are now

1194
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: leaning into getting there starting from who they're fucking, who

1195
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: they're attached to and not doing which again is why

1196
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: you said I'm different than you.

1197
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: Bitch. Yeah, that's not what I want to do. And

1198
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: if it takes me longer to go to where I

1199
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: need to go, I'm fine with that. This is not

1200
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: a racist the marathon, honey, tuck your ship boom. But

1201
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to say this, right, I gotta go back.

1202
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: I want to get back Hot Chocolate magazine.

1203
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: Being in the back of the sword the straight men

1204
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: in there finding me put me in this situation to

1205
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: where you know they're they're they're looking for trans women

1206
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: in the straight bars or whatever and stuff. My girlfriend,

1207
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 3: Miss Eve, teaches me how to do uh, read colds

1208
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 3: and ship like that. So I started reading colds and

1209
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: things and learning how to do web web okay HTML

1210
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 3: and all this time. So I come from Florida, I'm

1211
00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: learning how to do all this stuff. I'm like, oh,

1212
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: I don't need to work for no company. And all

1213
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 3: the stuff she done.

1214
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: Taught me how to do this shit.

1215
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 3: Fast forward boom, I'm coming a big name here in Atlanta, right,

1216
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: big name. You walk in the porn stores there, I

1217
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: go on the poster cock hanging out. I didn't have

1218
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 3: I earned my own distribution, my own like I didn't

1219
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 3: have any distribution company.

1220
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: I got my own distribution.

1221
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 2: Can I ask you real quick with the men that

1222
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: were in these magazines only because you said it quickly,

1223
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: You said you don't like DM men. Then you referred

1224
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: to the men getting these magazines as straight. Would you consider, however,

1225
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 2: a man d L if they don't disclose to a

1226
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: woman that he dates trans women.

1227
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: I think that that. I think that men who date

1228
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: trans women don't have a safe space. I don't think

1229
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: they have a safe space to even tell a tell

1230
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: a person like that. But I mean, don't you think

1231
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: that DM men don't have a safe space either. That's

1232
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, No, because you're DMN.

1233
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Well all the well, No,

1234
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 3: that just men in general who they transform just I

1235
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 3: don't think they have a safe space to even just

1236
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: be open up, even just have an experienced because I

1237
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 3: think that they're mean.

1238
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: But you wouldn't consider them DL for not disclosing to

1239
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: a woman, like because that's it all.

1240
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,439
Speaker 3: Depends on how they're doing it. Like if you're dating

1241
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 3: a woman, if you're in an active relationship with a

1242
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 3: woman and all you're doing is having sex with trains, okay,

1243
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: then that you need to tell this lady what you're doing.

1244
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: But if but if a man has dealt with a

1245
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: trans woman in his past, you don't feel like he

1246
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: has to disclose that to his next partner. Why I

1247
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: don't think you need to disclose it unless I'm outside

1248
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: of your type. I don't ever want to be outside

1249
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,959
Speaker 2: of someone's type and feel like I'm out the loop.

1250
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: And that's the thing with bisexuality that a lot of

1251
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: women there's this dicey thing. I don't give a fuck

1252
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 2: if you kissed the nigga, fuck whatever happened. But if

1253
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: you really like to be actible men, I want to

1254
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: be included in that.

1255
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing we're talking about. A man here,

1256
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: what type do me? And God? We say they chicken sandwich?

1257
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: Bit what that's true? They got So it's you're still

1258
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: his type? True, But he just had some some he

1259
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: probably had an experience. An experience to me isn't worth

1260
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: doing the whole confessional. But you that's what I mean. Yeah,

1261
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: explor or jail or jail or because it's one of

1262
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: us in your neighborhood. Experiment's one of us in the neighborhood,

1263
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: one or two of us in the neighborhood.

1264
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 2: That's the craziest thing to People are acting like trans women.

1265
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: Just nooped out of nowhere. Come all the hood niggas

1266
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: where I was from.

1267
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: Let me not say that, not all of them, but

1268
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 3: a good a good click of them niggas doesn't funck

1269
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 3: out of me.

1270
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: But exploring is so natural and that's why I don't

1271
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: feel like we're a good clicking of them.

1272
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: Niggas don't fucking shit out of me because I transitioned

1273
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: in front of them, and so it was just like, Yo,

1274
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 3: they were intragued, How did you let me see your titties?

1275
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: Let me see how you how you do and they

1276
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: and they often wanted to know if you still had

1277
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: your dick.

1278
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me sip you still got it. You gotta

1279
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: pussy down. Then some of them was like, until you

1280
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: get that deck cut off, you ain't gonna give you

1281
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 3: no dick. Then I got older and famous, and you

1282
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 3: know it was and then they changed. They would tell

1283
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: me that offensive to you because we were friends, we

1284
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: were joking and all that. Until you get you a pussy,

1285
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna motherfuck you, you know, dick. Because I's

1286
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 3: been like, let me get some of that deck. Let

1287
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 3: me you not doing that until you get get you

1288
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 3: a pussy, and then I'm gonna give.

1289
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: You some of the stick. And I feel like that's

1290
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: the most exciting thing. But it's just fun. And I've

1291
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: always been a bubbly personality.

1292
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 3: I've always been I've always you know, shared Another nigga

1293
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: used to want to whoop a nigga as if they

1294
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 3: was fucking with me.

1295
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: I lived in the trap, in the trap, my my, my,

1296
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: My duplex. Door was this way. The trap duplex though

1297
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: was this way. The niggas will come over there, bad

1298
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: weed the niggas and slides. Then they'll come over.

1299
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 3: Then they'll come over here, knock on the door, and

1300
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 3: you got all you gotta. I'm like, you know, but

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01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 3: you know, I don't see and they're like, what you

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01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 3: got to here?

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01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: You know?

1304
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 3: Me us because it's because especially when you're a trans

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: girl in the neighborhood, your.

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01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: House is marked. Everybody felt with your house is smart,

1307
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: like everybody knows. Don't be because either they're telling you

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01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: don't be fooled by that or either they saying, bro,

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01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: that motherfucker got what are they trying to jump out

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01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: the back doors? Some of them, Man, this came out

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01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: of the back door, you know, and then you know

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01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: someone came through the front door.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: Ship, it all depends on the town.

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01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 3: But today, you know, I've had me and profess love

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01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 3: they love for me after I had a lot of ship,

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01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 3: but I've also had to be emotionally unattached because also

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01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 3: even in my fun times.

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01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: Those were those men's experience. I wasn't realizing. I got

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Speaker 1: one question.

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01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: I gotta ask, come on, I want to know the

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01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: interaction you had that is memorable to you of a

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01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 2: woman coming to you about out her neighbors, oh by

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01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: her man.

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01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: And whether she was crying, whether she was like, let

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01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: me just get I mean I had that a couple

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01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: of times. A few times I actually had that about

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01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: the boy that rode on the bicycle. Of that to

1329
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: my because we gave you the fifty dollars, these women

1330
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: angry with you. It was very much so like.

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01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 4: It was.

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01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: I just was shook because I didn't know that that

1333
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: day he had a girl. I was gonna say, the relationships,

1334
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was. You know what I'm saying,

1335
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: It's just fun, you right, I don't give the fuck.

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01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: But he was really really liked me a lot, and

1337
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: and a little bit of that ship got into the streets.

1338
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: A little bit got into the streets, and that's how

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01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: the girl, you know. But then I found out that

1340
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: he was a transchaser, so he had done had a few.

1341
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: The girl. I was just a new bitch on the block.

1342
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: Rights, So the girl was trying to figure out you.

1343
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to call no names.

1344
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: That's what she called me.

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01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 3: Such as as you said, I'm saying, no, I'm I'm

1346
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: this not because obviously he had been with this how

1347
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 3: I found not? Oh, you you've been busied with the

1348
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 3: other girls, so you can do this, okay, she said, oh, because.

1349
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: I was like, what happened? And it was very much

1350
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: so like girl, what happened? And it's just like so

1351
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: you and such and such. I'm like, well, I mean

1352
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: I know him like I know him.

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01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if anybody come up to me and ask

1354
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: me if I ain't gonna I mean, I know him

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01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: right here.

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01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't know who you are, period. I don't know

1357
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: who you are. I don't know who you, but I

1358
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: know him. Uh, bitch, he's not mind because you're not.

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01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 3: Gonna catch him at my house because if you do,

1360
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put in my side because he can't stay here.

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01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: But what he doing to you, he's not gonna do

1362
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: to me.

1363
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 3: And that's where I'm at too with stuff in life,

1364
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 3: like all the things I've done with men, and I

1365
01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 3: know how men move.

1366
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: It makes me. It gives me reservations with me and

1367
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: like ship because they they listen. That's why we said this.

1368
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: Why be telling ladies, y'all? Girl, you how you you

1369
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: can't be thinking about no treads? The man's fucking the

1370
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: man will fuck this. Cut hold of this pockabook and

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01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: right you know everything? Oh yah, y'all got y'all all.

1372
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna spread stubs right now by the way real

1373
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 2: quick too before we get out. If you guys want

1374
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: to catch Tys Madison on all the things she's doing,

1375
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 2: can you please let them know how busy of a

1376
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: b you is.

1377
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: I am listen. I'm a judge on RuPaul's Drag Race.

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01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 2: It is. I'm gonna yes. I wasn't not saying I

1379
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: thought I was gonna smell. I wasn't ready for to

1380
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: smell this every this, what's everything?

1381
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: Wow?

1382
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a judge on Rue Paul's Drag Race.

1383
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 3: I'm on a host of television shows and series. I

1384
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,959
Speaker 3: have my own show called The Maddie in the morning

1385
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: show when I do a segment called fag Talk. I

1386
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 3: have a residency here and at Lanta. I want you

1387
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 3: ladies to come out the next time if he will

1388
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 3: you know me here here in two more weeks, will

1389
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 3: be my guest.

1390
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 2: I will.

1391
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 3: I have a residency here. It's called the Somatian Morning

1392
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 3: Show Live. I said, the City Winery.

1393
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: We come out.

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01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 3: You know, we do what we do, what I do

1395
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 3: in the morning time. You know, I'm always on tour,

1396
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm always in the city. I'm hosting.

1397
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: I do everything, hosts so lot, I do everything. I

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01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: love it.

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01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: And if y'all don't know either, I know ain't no

1400
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 2: no no more, big big, big bitch dot com. However,

1401
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: I know a lot of y'all still have your cowboy

1402
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: boots uh ready for for act two.

1403
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: But it's Tis Battison is a graveyard ward god, honeys

1404
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: beyond honey, yes, god, you know why?

1405
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: Can I tell you why?

1406
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 3: Because because I'm dog brown dogs, henning lights, hening beige,

1407
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 3: fluorescent beige.

1408
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: Bitch, I'm black.

1409
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 3: That's motherfucking why, bitch, Because I'm black, I'm black like that.

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01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 3: That was one of the craziest And you know everybody

1411
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: gagged about that too. Oh you know they gagged, but

1412
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 3: they talk about all the things.

1413
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: You don't got us. Get some you definitely get it up.

1414
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 3: Y'all can get my perfume. You visit uh method dot com.

1415
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 3: But the ladies you can put the q R whatever.

1416
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: And everything. It smells so good. But it's also like

1417
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 1: this floral give it a little like it. It's better.

1418
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 1: It's very.

1419
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 3: It took me to Leachy. It took me Leach almost

1420
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 3: a year to get the right formula that I wanted.

1421
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: But I do want to see the bottle because I'm

1422
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 3: picky on with the bottle of the bottle is simple,

1423
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,560
Speaker 3: because listen, I like simple bottle. Me tell you the

1424
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 3: bottle because it's.

1425
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: Like Whitney Houston. You know what we did.

1426
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 3: You know, Whitney came out there to pay a jeans

1427
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 3: and a T shirt. But that I just want to

1428
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 3: see the bottle because.

1429
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: It's a little bit.

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01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan, but Nicki Minaja's perfume smells

1431
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 2: good to the bottle. Looked like I should be twelve.

1432
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: It's like a Barbie doll head girl. I'm just I'm

1433
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 2: just not a fan, so I'm a I like liking

1434
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 2: that very simple, simple perfume.

1435
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: Yes, I love It's just this is when they asked

1436
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 1: you what you got on everything is that. I love it.

1437
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.

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01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 2: But we're gonna have to do a part two. Okay,

1439
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 2: sometime soon, we're gonna have emotional it was because it

1440
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 2: was gonna get deeper. I'm glad we will well. No,

1441
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: I'm love I love how deep it was, and because

1442
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: and did, but because there are girls, and because y'all

1443
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,839
Speaker 2: did have such different conversations. If you enjoyed tes Madison,

1444
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 2: go check out her interview with our girls poor mind.

1445
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: Oh my God, I love my baby, yes love like baby.

1446
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: Yesterday, but we wanted to be sure we did also

1447
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: give just a different interview. You did so great over

1448
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 2: there on their show. But y'all can find out more

1449
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 2: about Madisonova there. And also, if you want to support us,

1450
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 2: head on over to our patreon y'all patreon dot com

1451
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 2: backslash Horrible Decisions. We will be back with another episode

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01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: next week, as we always see you on Monday. This

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01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 2: has been yet another episode of Horrible Decisions by y'all

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01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 2: by Girl.

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01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 5: Fast from the Horrible Decisions podcast. We're sending our condolences

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01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 5: to the family and friends of Dallas ped and of

1457
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 5: course the internet's everyone who loved him. He was one

1458
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 5: of our favorite moments on Horrible Decisions. Ever, he is

1459
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 5: obviously someone that will be hard to forget, and we

1460
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 5: are so lucky to have some of these podcast memories

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01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 5: that will live on.

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01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: We wish all of you peace during this difficult time

1463
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:46,839
Speaker 1: of grieving.

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01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: Were you turned on by her wearing them first and

1465
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 2: then you want to masturbate in them?

1466
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 1: Well, I gotta be honest with you.

1467
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 4: And no one had put the shoe on yet, but

1468
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 4: I imagine the person wearing the shoe, WHOA, how fi

1469
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 4: are they is? They were just gonna be so fucking incredible?

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01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: And did you buy her this year? Well? Actually I was.

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01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 4: I was working at Marshall's at the time, okay, and

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01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 4: I'm in the back stock was doing this?

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01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: I wasn't.

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01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I was younger. I never buy marshall

1475
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 1: Marshalls didn't I was, I was, I was in my thirties.

1476
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: Did you take it? Did you do it?

1477
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 4: No? I was in the I was just in a

1478
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 4: backstock room, and I was like, Yo, the person that's

1479
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 4: gonna wear this, she was gonna be so fucking fire,

1480
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 4: and she's gonna beautiful, and she's gonna let me fuck

1481
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 4: because I made her laugh and shit, oh my god,

1482
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 4: like her calfs are so crazy and I just I

1483
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 4: gave it up.

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01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: I gave it up.