Speaker 1: This is a Wells Cast with Wells Adams and I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio podcast. Hi guys, it's Teddy Mellencamp and I
Speaker 1: am here hosting this week's The Hills Cast, filling in
Speaker 1: for Wells because well He is in an undisclosed location
Speaker 1: working on a TV project. Mm hmm. We will be
Speaker 1: discussing all things the Hills and CSA key. I'm super
Speaker 1: excited for both of our guests, Caroline More and Jordana Barnes.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start the podcast talking to Caroline, which we've
Speaker 1: got to dig into so many things. Okay, first off,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna share a little secret with you guys. We
Speaker 1: did a pilot years before I ever did Housewives, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't It was a little messy, So maybe we'll
Speaker 1: get into that. But of course we're gonna talk all
Speaker 1: things Hills. Pizza Girl her delicious pizza sauce along with
Speaker 1: her amazing restaurant. They one time for Valentine's Day, she
Speaker 1: sent me a pizza and it was a heart shaped,
Speaker 1: so cute. So I can't wait to talk about all
Speaker 1: of the things. All right, you guys, So here goes.
Speaker 1: You guys submitted so many questions I love asking. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna just get right into the hills and then
Speaker 1: we'll talk other things. First, how did you in Caitl
Speaker 1: and meet Caitl and I? How, well, that's a little
Speaker 1: bit of like I Caitlin and I met last season,
Speaker 1: UM round a bit um. Misha and I were friends
Speaker 1: and she was filming that season UM, and so I
Speaker 1: was around a bit while everybody was filming. UM. But
Speaker 1: then we had some mutual friends and we just kind
Speaker 1: of fell in friendship. Love. Oh, I love that. Well, oh,
Speaker 1: so you were friends with Misha. There's she's been in
Speaker 1: the press a lot recently. Are you guys still in touch?
Speaker 1: Has she been in the press a lot? Yes, about
Speaker 1: all this stuff about the o C. And like, I'm honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm on like a text exchange called the Delicious Crumbs
Speaker 1: where we like share just gossip and whatnot. It's, you know,
Speaker 1: so lovely, but either way, yeah, it's about like the
Speaker 1: treatment when she was on you know, the o C
Speaker 1: and all of these things. I've just been seeing it
Speaker 1: everywhere and then Rachel Bilson spoke out, so I was like,
Speaker 1: it's a lot, It's a lot. I literally don't know
Speaker 1: because I don't see like press, I don't even yeah,
Speaker 1: I see like you know, my office, my child and
Speaker 1: the outdoors one of those like, well I love that.
Speaker 1: So okay, So you guys became close through meeting on
Speaker 1: the show essentially, and then I would say, yeah, we
Speaker 1: met on the show for sure. Yeah, and then how
Speaker 1: much should you end up filming this year? I actually
Speaker 1: filmed a lot and they are like not showing any
Speaker 1: of it so far, so who knows. I really like,
Speaker 1: I have no idea, Like, I know you were kind
Speaker 1: of new, like we had done some funny stuff together
Speaker 1: in the past, but as for like actually being a
Speaker 1: cast member on a show like this is my first
Speaker 1: time and I have no idea how it actually works.
Speaker 1: But I was actually there in all of those episodes.
Speaker 1: I just yeah, um, I haven't been rolled out yet.
Speaker 1: I guess last season they had a really like hard
Speaker 1: time shoving Misha into Um. It's really hard to just
Speaker 1: like introduce a new cast member, as you know, you know,
Speaker 1: especially with something like The Hills where people have been
Speaker 1: fans of the show for you know, fifteen years and
Speaker 1: they know these cast members so well, So to just
Speaker 1: force feed a new cast member I think is really difficult.
Speaker 1: So I think that they're giving me like a nice
Speaker 1: ease into so it doesn't feel too forced. I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, that makes sense. What would you say has
Speaker 1: been the easiest part in the hardest part about filming?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, um, let's see the easiest part. What
Speaker 1: was easy about filming? Um, do anything? I mean it
Speaker 1: was it's fun at times, like it's really fun. And
Speaker 1: then you know, for me, like because of COVID and everything,
Speaker 1: it was such a weird way to do it for
Speaker 1: the first time, you know, like we couldn't have any
Speaker 1: outer interaction. Um, it was just us and you know,
Speaker 1: being tested every day, and it was just very like strange,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I don't know all
Speaker 1: the different procedures and whatnot that everybody has to fall up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all the different procedures and I even through
Speaker 1: like a Pizza Girl like relaunch event and having to
Speaker 1: get every single person tested for that and then retested
Speaker 1: and then like it was just it was really it
Speaker 1: was a really weird time for me to do my
Speaker 1: first kind of reality show season. So it was fun.
Speaker 1: And I don't think people realize how much filming act
Speaker 1: actually goes into one episode. Like at least on the
Speaker 1: show I did. We filmed five, six days a week,
Speaker 1: multiple things, and then there's so much that you never
Speaker 1: see and you're like, what I had in three outfit changes?
Speaker 1: I did all of these things and nothing like there's
Speaker 1: just days will just be gone. It's completely crazy. I
Speaker 1: mean the amount that I filmed, um and what people
Speaker 1: are actually gonna see, it's like, I don't even it's nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's literally nothing. So yeah, So other than Caitlin, who
Speaker 1: are you closest with? And then who are you having
Speaker 1: the hardest time getting along with? And you have to
Speaker 1: give me all the juicy you tell people when they
Speaker 1: ask you stuff like that, I mean, far scientists, Why
Speaker 1: don't you think I have the jobs I have? I
Speaker 1: have to It's part of being authentic. You gotta say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's impossible for everybody to love everybody. It is,
Speaker 1: and that's why we're That's why the people tune in,
Speaker 1: because you like to see the chemistry of the relationships
Speaker 1: their gel or like you know what, that's not really
Speaker 1: my person. That's why I feel like next season it'll
Speaker 1: be easier for me to say all these things. I
Speaker 1: just don't know what they're gonna show and then if
Speaker 1: I go, you know, um, you know, put my foot
Speaker 1: in my mouth and say like I didn't get along
Speaker 1: with somebody and they never even show it. Now I'm
Speaker 1: going to have beef with somebody that I maybe didn't
Speaker 1: even need to have, but actually you probably want to
Speaker 1: have it, so you don't just give it to me.
Speaker 1: You can't skate around the you know what this is saying?
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that, Like I mean, Misha's not on the
Speaker 1: show anymore, but everybody knows that we had beef. Um,
Speaker 1: it's really like, it's documented. It's very Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: all the press though I don't even know what. I
Speaker 1: don't even know about that be I literally thought you
Speaker 1: were saying she was in the press because of our beef.
Speaker 1: Now it was your beef. Hello. I know. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was so crazy. So it was basically we were
Speaker 1: friends last season and then she um had gone behind
Speaker 1: my back, I guess in some way to keep me
Speaker 1: off the show. So I threw a world party last
Speaker 1: season that nobody ever got to see at Kathy Hilton's house. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was amazing and Kathy's like, really that family
Speaker 1: is a really good supporters and really good friends of mine,
Speaker 1: and she was like, absolutely do this, you know, for
Speaker 1: your company and have this event. And I had the
Speaker 1: Hills cast members there and everything, and they were actually
Speaker 1: unable to use that scene. After I worked so hard
Speaker 1: and Kathy and everybody came to like make this happen
Speaker 1: for me and my company. They weren't able to use
Speaker 1: that scene because Misha, we found out, wouldn't speak my
Speaker 1: name in the interviews. Um, you know, like when you
Speaker 1: do the interviews and they're like, so tell me you
Speaker 1: were who was the event you were at and the
Speaker 1: dada and they can't piece anything together when people are
Speaker 1: purposely trying to keep your name, like they just won't
Speaker 1: even mention you, right, so like it just didn't happen.
Speaker 1: So then they couldn't use the footage. I had a
Speaker 1: lot of people last not a lot of people, but
Speaker 1: more than one person last season purposely tried to hurt
Speaker 1: my chances of being on this show. I know. It's
Speaker 1: so much more than actual on screen drama. Like I've
Speaker 1: actually heard because we have the same producers, you know,
Speaker 1: Evolution Alex and everybody, and I've heard that like, you
Speaker 1: guys are much easier to handle than a deal with Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's because of the past and how you know,
Speaker 1: the switch production companies. So I think it's how originally
Speaker 1: was versus how it is now, all those types of things.
Speaker 1: But I think you know, what ends up happening on
Speaker 1: all of these shows the longer that you do it,
Speaker 1: different egos are involved, different you know, different rules apply
Speaker 1: to everybody, and it's you know what they called on
Speaker 1: reality TV, as you know, but maybe some of the
Speaker 1: listener's note is the fourth wall. So a lot of
Speaker 1: the drama that everybody sees is the actual people breaking
Speaker 1: the fourth wall. So no matter what the situation is,
Speaker 1: like you can even tell in this episode where people
Speaker 1: are getting upset at Heidi for drinking or whatever it
Speaker 1: may be that like in her mind, she's already thinking,
Speaker 1: what are people going to be watching this show? Thinking, See,
Speaker 1: I didn't even think that far ahead yet. I'm so
Speaker 1: I'm so still give it time. Yeah, I'm so green
Speaker 1: that I'm like really thinking, like like people are so
Speaker 1: calculated and um way beyond my scope of like, um
Speaker 1: just mean, and it's just not something that I absolutely love,
Speaker 1: So um I think maybe, yeah, I mean I never
Speaker 1: thought that people would be that like they would do
Speaker 1: things where they would look into the camera for my
Speaker 1: scenes so that they'd be null and void. Um. They
Speaker 1: would do things so that, um, if I spoke, they
Speaker 1: would say things that would have to get cut out,
Speaker 1: like oh, you're just trying to get in this scene.
Speaker 1: Like that happened to me so much that it's like
Speaker 1: everybody just trying to keep the new girl down that
Speaker 1: it's almost like that's kind of why a lot of
Speaker 1: my stuff isn't really I don't know, it's it was
Speaker 1: very stressful and really hard to deal with. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think, I mean that's about I mean, I was,
Speaker 1: you know, on a show for three years that surrounded
Speaker 1: itself around drama abo slee in the mix of it.
Speaker 1: But the one thing that I can say a million
Speaker 1: percent is like every single person on that show wants
Speaker 1: everybody to succeed, even if you're fighting and stuff is
Speaker 1: dirty and like you know, we know, like the case
Speaker 1: for this show and that's not the case for me.
Speaker 1: And it's like I just wish everybody got that. It's
Speaker 1: a freaking TV show, you know what I mean At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like we can if we
Speaker 1: fight or whatever, Like that's people like it was just
Speaker 1: so complicated and like stressful to be honest, like I
Speaker 1: just feel like nobody wants anybody to succeed on this show.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people don't. Not everybody, So
Speaker 1: sorry for saying that. I just have a lot of frustration,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people made um it, Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: Well what was your thoughts? Because a lot of the
Speaker 1: questions that came in were that night that you know,
Speaker 1: everybody was out and drinking and did you think it
Speaker 1: was too much? Like because watching it back, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like, you know, actually an explanation for why I'm
Speaker 1: not in that scene. Why really glad that it got
Speaker 1: cut out. I ended up getting wasted at the winery
Speaker 1: prior to that, and um, fell asleep in the bus
Speaker 1: on the way back to that scene. So that's not
Speaker 1: anybody shown that that was my fault. Yeah, and he didn't.
Speaker 1: They're not showing like stuff like that. So and I'm
Speaker 1: actually slightly veryful. Um I was, I was wild on
Speaker 1: that bus ride home. But yeah, I do think that
Speaker 1: they should have shown that. I think they should have
Speaker 1: sene that. And for me, like if you're going away
Speaker 1: on a trip, I'm not saying that you have to
Speaker 1: get wasted. But I didn't like that everybody was like
Speaker 1: dogging them out for doing it. Like one, Hidie is
Speaker 1: a good drunk. She's not like maybe I am not
Speaker 1: the world's best drunk, but Hidie is like fun and laughing.
Speaker 1: She's not mean, there's no like it really seemed like
Speaker 1: she was having a good time. And then everyone like saying,
Speaker 1: you know, Brodie's like all of a sudden so entitled
Speaker 1: and saying these things. I'm like, dude, with the bob
Speaker 1: haircut and all the things, I didn't take a couple
Speaker 1: of seats. Yeah, listen, I mean everybody is ready to
Speaker 1: like criticize everybody when they're just as guilty, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, um yeah, I find it kind
Speaker 1: of silly too. And did you how awkward was the
Speaker 1: amber situation. She didn't speak much, like I didn't really
Speaker 1: get to know her on any level. Um, I actually
Speaker 1: like feel for her. It sucks to be one of
Speaker 1: a million girls that somebody is hanging out, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like that's not cute. I mean in
Speaker 1: the first scene, he was like saying, like they were
Speaker 1: naked in a bath together. I mean, you're just my
Speaker 1: friend on television. I was like mortified for her. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you can tell that she like, you know,
Speaker 1: wants to please him or whatever. But also what he's
Speaker 1: not taking into consideration into the relationship is she has
Speaker 1: also put in a pressure cooker right now on a show,
Speaker 1: having to be all the thing, you know, like all
Speaker 1: of that. Of course she's gonna want to have a
Speaker 1: couple of drinks. She's twenty four years old and filled
Speaker 1: with strangers that are all judging her. Not to mention
Speaker 1: one of the strangers is her boyfriend or whatever it
Speaker 1: is ex wife, Yeah, yeah, ish well no, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really nerve racking. I mean, listen, I drank too
Speaker 1: much basically every night because that is scary with all
Speaker 1: those cameras around and all of that and being new
Speaker 1: to it and just being thrown into it, and nobody
Speaker 1: helped her, just like nobody helped me. It's very scary.
Speaker 1: So I feel for her for sure. And then what
Speaker 1: do you did Caitlin like confide in you at all
Speaker 1: about how she was feeling? Like do you think Bernie
Speaker 1: should have told her that he was bringing a girl.
Speaker 1: Let's be real, there's there's cameras around, there's a friend
Speaker 1: trip like that was a little like I I felt
Speaker 1: for Caitlin in that moment, but like I always have
Speaker 1: her back, So I definitely felt like it was it
Speaker 1: could have been he could have told, like given her
Speaker 1: a heads up just so she wasn't blindsighted, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean I was slicing around a little bit
Speaker 1: because well, that's my job, the same podcasts. But I
Speaker 1: saw that people were saying, well, how could she be
Speaker 1: upset when she had such a public relationship with Miley
Speaker 1: Cyrus afterwards, and like she had her own relationship after
Speaker 1: they were broken up, like everybody does. We all move
Speaker 1: on people, we all date other people, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Her has happened to be like public or whatever.
Speaker 1: So people are how many people did he move on
Speaker 1: with right after? Come on, they just weren't, um, you know,
Speaker 1: super famous, so it didn't get like mega pressed. But um,
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody's allowed to move on, and you
Speaker 1: know if they're such good friends, like she would have
Speaker 1: told him if she was bringing a guy on a
Speaker 1: friend trip. You know, do you think that men and
Speaker 1: women that are were once together can truly be such
Speaker 1: good friends? I do, because I'm doing that right now,
Speaker 1: um with I mean I've managed to stay friends with
Speaker 1: pretty much everyone I dated, So yeah, the I am
Speaker 1: not like for me, I think that men and women,
Speaker 1: if you were in a relationship that we didn't date
Speaker 1: back to like years and years ago, Like I think
Speaker 1: it's one thing like co parenting or something like that
Speaker 1: that's different and having like a cordial relationship. But I
Speaker 1: think that it's extremely hard for at least one of
Speaker 1: the people. Nah. Nah, And you know what, you know
Speaker 1: what it is, it's your maybe your husband won't allow
Speaker 1: you to be super chummy with that person. It depends
Speaker 1: on if the person you're dating is going to be
Speaker 1: cool with it. Um, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: that's when it gets that's when it gets hard, because no,
Speaker 1: I mean I think, like listen, like my first boyfriend
Speaker 1: who like totally broke my heart. I loved him, I
Speaker 1: was so obsessed with him. Now I'm like so close
Speaker 1: with him. His ex wife, my ex husband's girlfriend of
Speaker 1: eight years, and I am our children. We all play
Speaker 1: together like all the time and hang out. So I
Speaker 1: have to say, you are, I mean, that's impressive because
Speaker 1: for you know, I was married before too, and my
Speaker 1: husband we we hung out you know altogether my my
Speaker 1: edwin and my ex husband and then it got to
Speaker 1: a time where like he got into a new relationship
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden we all realize, like,
Speaker 1: you know, what it's best for I mean, we didn't
Speaker 1: have kids involved, so it's different, but it's best for
Speaker 1: all parties involved. Like if we're hanging on, what are
Speaker 1: we really hanging on too? Because in order to fully
Speaker 1: move on, sometimes you've got to go on. That's to me,
Speaker 1: that's a little like I don't want to use the
Speaker 1: word immature, but I guess it's more like, you know,
Speaker 1: hanging on because you still have feelings. There's always like
Speaker 1: a friendship there, I believe, like I but I think
Speaker 1: out of respect in what way, like like out of
Speaker 1: respect like if you were to get married again, right,
Speaker 1: yea out of respect for each other. I'm just like
Speaker 1: the like, but yes, you should have a friendship in
Speaker 1: the point that, like you guys, can you know, be
Speaker 1: at the same birthday party do those types of things together.
Speaker 1: But if you're when things go wrong in your life
Speaker 1: or things are really great, if you're one of your
Speaker 1: top calls is to your ex versus to your current
Speaker 1: well that's a problem. Well, nobody said that. That's very
Speaker 1: different to actually like call somebody over your person that
Speaker 1: is that's or even along with the person, like sharing
Speaker 1: those moments with somebody that is in your past. I
Speaker 1: think it could be. I can get messy. It depends
Speaker 1: on how mature you are about it and how much
Speaker 1: you trust your partner. Right, yeah, So did you ever
Speaker 1: hang out with Miley and Caitlin? No, Nope, that was
Speaker 1: Caitlin and my friendship came after that. Yeah, okay, perfect.
Speaker 1: And who other than Caitlin on the show. Do you
Speaker 1: feel the most connected with Adrina? For sure? You know
Speaker 1: and I've known each other forever and we did really
Speaker 1: Can't Be Poor film together a million years ago called
Speaker 1: Sorority Row. I'm sure I need to watch. It's really
Speaker 1: actually quite good. It's fun, you know, it's it's not
Speaker 1: you know, gonna win anybody in cat Award, but it
Speaker 1: went to theaters and it was well, it was well done.
Speaker 1: Um and actually yeah, like rumor Willis was on that
Speaker 1: with that was in that with us and our from
Speaker 1: is this before she ever did the Hills the first time?
Speaker 1: You know, it was like go see Adrina from the
Speaker 1: Hills getting murdered, you know what I mean? You know,
Speaker 1: it was funny because like Paris Hilton, another friend of mine,
Speaker 1: had a similar thing where it was like see Paris die,
Speaker 1: like when she was in that movie. That was like
Speaker 1: a moment where like they wanted these kind of pop
Speaker 1: culture you know, hot girls to get murdered in movies.
Speaker 1: So it was kind of funny. Um, so what do
Speaker 1: you think is harder? Because I know back in the day,
Speaker 1: like the phrase isn't really used anymore, but you were
Speaker 1: like the social light girl around town. What do you
Speaker 1: think is harder being on a reality show or having
Speaker 1: to maintain being the girl That was fun and easy
Speaker 1: and we were just wild and having a blast and
Speaker 1: that was like that came naturally. I think being on
Speaker 1: the Hills is much more difficult for sure. Um It's
Speaker 1: just I can I I'd rather maybe I should jump
Speaker 1: over to the Housewives. What do you think? I really?
Speaker 1: I Like, I called Alex one day and I was like,
Speaker 1: you got any spots for me? I just don't know
Speaker 1: what on the hills right now because everybody hates me
Speaker 1: and it's you know, very scary. Well, I can. I
Speaker 1: can say my first season I felt really afraid to.
Speaker 1: Like I got really emotional at times because I felt like,
Speaker 1: what is happening? Like it doesn't feel natural to me,
Speaker 1: Like I had to force myself to stay present, yeah,
Speaker 1: because like my mind would race and I be like okay,
Speaker 1: And then there's that pressure of like, Okay, you have
Speaker 1: to talk. You have to you know, you have to
Speaker 1: put yourself in the conversation or else you know, you're
Speaker 1: not in it. You're not in it and you're non
Speaker 1: void and you're fighting in the extingent. But how about
Speaker 1: having people literally speak to you so that you cannot
Speaker 1: be in it? What about if you just said hey,
Speaker 1: like on camera, just like in front of everybody, like hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm here trying to be friends with y'all, trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, take this to the next level. We can
Speaker 1: all grow and learn from each other. Like why can't
Speaker 1: we just have a little bit of respect for each
Speaker 1: other and have a little fun. Well, there's like a
Speaker 1: control aspect that some of these characters have where they're
Speaker 1: like basically like if you're not if you don't fall
Speaker 1: in line with what we want, we're going to ruin you.
Speaker 1: That is literally that I deal with. I won't name you.
Speaker 1: I'm not naming names. Fine, give me one letter. I'm
Speaker 1: not doing it because I've literally, um, I've been warned
Speaker 1: of this wrath and I'm just like, I have balls
Speaker 1: and I'm not scared of them. I'm more like, I'm
Speaker 1: more like, maybe it will come out on its own.
Speaker 1: So maybe I'll be the bigger person for for not
Speaker 1: naming at that point, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: I really do feel like I was treated really poorly. Um,
Speaker 1: I feel and I was, you know, talking to producers
Speaker 1: and I was upset about it. I was like, these
Speaker 1: people won't engage with me, they won't talk to me.
Speaker 1: You know, we had a beef one night and now
Speaker 1: it's Nolan Boyd because the rest of the season, they're
Speaker 1: just cutting me out of it. The amount of control
Speaker 1: that they give some of these characters on the show, um,
Speaker 1: is unfair to the other people on the show that
Speaker 1: want to make it a real show. Yeah, breaking breaking
Speaker 1: down the episode a little bit more. Yeah, do you
Speaker 1: think I don't know, I kind of got the vibe
Speaker 1: that Justin Bobby is into Caitlin. I know, is that
Speaker 1: is that happening? Is there was that a thing? Well?
Speaker 1: I mean, look if they're both really sexy, so why not, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, and um, neither of them. So and
Speaker 1: do you did you ever have any attraction to anybody
Speaker 1: on the show. Uh, there was a little bit of
Speaker 1: an attraction, um, but um, yeah, it wasn't. It was
Speaker 1: just me going through you know, I just gone through
Speaker 1: a divorce. I was kind of just um, yeah, feeling
Speaker 1: a bunch of different things out. So and then were
Speaker 1: you shocked to hear that Brody and Audrina hooked up
Speaker 1: or were you and you knew that happened. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wasn't shocked. Yeah, they've always had like a chemistry for sure.
Speaker 1: Do you think they'll ultimately end up together? I kind
Speaker 1: of think they're kind of great for each other, to
Speaker 1: be honest, So I don't know. I mean I was
Speaker 1: always an adrena justin Bobby fan, just because I wasn't
Speaker 1: die hard. It's actually like a night where I don't
Speaker 1: know if it will actually air or not, because we
Speaker 1: never know what will But I actually got quite buzzed
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, romantic sad like vibe,
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, you guys just get back together.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, enough, I'm so here for Adrena and
Speaker 1: Justin Bobby and they were like really shut up, yeah,
Speaker 1: And then who do you think is like the most
Speaker 1: fun of the cast? Like I was watching last night,
Speaker 1: I mean whatever night it was on, but I was
Speaker 1: watching and I was, you know, kind of looking around
Speaker 1: like if I was on the show or if I
Speaker 1: was part of this group, like who would I have
Speaker 1: the most fun with? And I was trying to decide
Speaker 1: because there's parts that you see similarities and everybody, so
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, I see that to see that, but
Speaker 1: like being in the moment, who do you think, well,
Speaker 1: like I'm the most fun However, you don't get to
Speaker 1: see that yet. At some point maybe you'll get to
Speaker 1: see that. But I'm definitely a loads of them. But
Speaker 1: I think like people, you know, it's interesting, some people
Speaker 1: come off more fun, and then off camera, some people
Speaker 1: that aren't don't seem as like that are like put together,
Speaker 1: they're actually like wildly fun like off camera, so you
Speaker 1: never really can tell. So that's tough. And then what else,
Speaker 1: what else do we need to cover? What was like
Speaker 1: last night's episode? What part of it did you feel like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this actually really felt authentic? And was there part where
Speaker 1: you were like what, I didn't even know this was
Speaker 1: going on, you know what. I was at a really
Speaker 1: important dinner meeting last night and did not see the episode.
Speaker 1: Oh I know, I know. I've been a little scared
Speaker 1: to watch them as well. I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen, you know what I mean. I haven't really
Speaker 1: been like I've been a little scared. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean last and the episode essentially what happened was Brody
Speaker 1: was upset that Amber was drinking with Heidi. I remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he was honestly like brooding around and then
Speaker 1: not very that was normal, that's par for the course,
Speaker 1: totally real. Yeah, he was like super upset with it,
Speaker 1: and she was like yeah, and then how do you
Speaker 1: how do you think Amber was handling it like the
Speaker 1: because even the next day you see it and she
Speaker 1: really doesn't say anything. She seems like almost like scared
Speaker 1: to say anything. Like there's a point where she's even
Speaker 1: like I've got to go to the restaurant. You could
Speaker 1: just see like like could you feel that tension? Definitely
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I saw something that even happening like off
Speaker 1: camera that was definitely like that. I mean, here's what
Speaker 1: I'll say about the show, like the interactions are real,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, obviously you don't normally
Speaker 1: plan to all be in the same room you know
Speaker 1: what I mean every night, But the interactions, as you know,
Speaker 1: like they have been the real and they derive from real,
Speaker 1: real feelings, so it's all real. Um um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just end up cutting room floory never know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we have to dig into the Sean Stewart
Speaker 1: of it all a little bit. I okay, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: one of your best friends. Yeah, we grew up together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: his sister Kimberly and I are best friends growing up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I I mean I remember him from like clubs
Speaker 1: when I was younger too, and but I don't remember
Speaker 1: him being like so quirky and fun and like easy going.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is happening? Yeah, Sean's really funny, and
Speaker 1: he's like very smooth and like really funny and like
Speaker 1: he's very charming. Um, he's just like, Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: this one night that I was really upset I'd been
Speaker 1: going through my divorce, and we reenacted the entire dance
Speaker 1: sequence from um Dirty Dancing together, Like, yeah, entire I
Speaker 1: have it all on tape, so maybe I'll post it
Speaker 1: one day. But it was hilarious. He totally just like
Speaker 1: you know, knows how to like make you laugh, and
Speaker 1: you know, um, he's a he's a great guy. He's
Speaker 1: a great catch. So's he's I know, because I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna work out for Audrey and I. I
Speaker 1: you can feel that it's the chemistry is not there
Speaker 1: because he and the kiss was a little and I
Speaker 1: was sitting not too far away from that moment, and
Speaker 1: I could you'll, like, even when she says right before
Speaker 1: he goes in for the kids, she's like just when
Speaker 1: peck or whatever, like that's she's parannicking about the kiss.
Speaker 1: And then he did another one. I was like, the
Speaker 1: goodbye kiss and then talked about it. I was having
Speaker 1: second hand awkward humiliation watching it. I was like, this
Speaker 1: kiss is brutal. Poor guy, he's the best. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I mean, listen, they're definitely yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I think, but that I think also like any
Speaker 1: type of like even when I saw Brodie in the
Speaker 1: bathtub with Amber, any of those types of like intimate
Speaker 1: like intimate scenes are so awkward in general, Like I
Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't even imagine getting into a bathtub
Speaker 1: or having a first kiss. Yeah, sober in the daytime. Second,
Speaker 1: I mean no, anybody's kids would be like awkward. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, because you have so much
Speaker 1: weight on your mom yend, what are people you know,
Speaker 1: like you have to explain it at some point. It's
Speaker 1: just very awkward. Yeah, And like Audrina so nice. You
Speaker 1: can tell that like she wants to do the right
Speaker 1: thing and not hurt anybody's feelings, but also like I
Speaker 1: can't do this. Yeah. Yeah, she's so sweet. She's like
Speaker 1: one of the nicest people I know. I know she
Speaker 1: every time I've been around her, she's so fun, so kind,
Speaker 1: and she's such a good mother. You don't get to
Speaker 1: see that on the show, but like such an incredible mother,
Speaker 1: And like every time I've been around her and her daughter,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm floor. They're just wonderful people. Yeah, she's so awesome.
Speaker 1: We're definitely planning some play dates with the kids, and um,
Speaker 1: we all should do that. I know. Well, it brings
Speaker 1: us to the last thing we have to discuss it
Speaker 1: to veer away from the hills. So so you guys know,
Speaker 1: I mean I put on my Instagram this morning. We
Speaker 1: did a pilot together a jillion years ago. Yes, we did.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you're bringing that up because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: people the truth of the matter. Oh, we've gotten a
Speaker 1: huge Well, I'm gonna I don't seem to me talk
Speaker 1: about mean reality people. Well this is the problem. You
Speaker 1: were drinking, and I said to you, we were. This
Speaker 1: type of reality show was different. It was like fully scripted.
Speaker 1: None of us knew each other. It was honestly like
Speaker 1: eight strangers put together. And we were like, okay. So
Speaker 1: we had this big dinner and the dinner was fine.
Speaker 1: We all like the trap staunt on Third Street. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know a start. We were at a straw
Speaker 1: or whatever it's called. So we had this big dinner.
Speaker 1: Then on the car ride over to the next place,
Speaker 1: because they were filming all of it this trying to
Speaker 1: cram it in twenty four hour periods, so we had
Speaker 1: like fifty four scenes in one day. So on the
Speaker 1: way in the car, the producer tells me, you're there
Speaker 1: in the car, guys, someone needs to do something if
Speaker 1: we want this show to be picked up. So wait
Speaker 1: right over. Yes, and you said, Teddy let's do it.
Speaker 1: And I'm like okay. But by the time we got
Speaker 1: to the restaurant, you had forgotten we had agreed to
Speaker 1: this appearance. I started going at you and you are
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, I'm like, she's crumbling. What's happening.
Speaker 1: We had this plan in the freaking car, and I'm
Speaker 1: and Laura's looking at me, and she's like what the
Speaker 1: hell because the Laura is one of the other girls
Speaker 1: on the show. Then you lonch yourself in the bathroom
Speaker 1: and I'm like, bang on the door. I'm like, Caroline, please,
Speaker 1: I'm talking. We discussed this like and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: like break the fourth wall the whole thing. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: talked to you for two days. I was so mad
Speaker 1: at you. But see, alcohol is a really big like
Speaker 1: it's a problem of mine. Like I am totally fine.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, but you know what, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was shocked when you came
Speaker 1: at me like that. And also like in my restaurant
Speaker 1: like telling me to serve you like you look like
Speaker 1: a psycho. You were like, bitch, go get me some knack.
Speaker 1: You'll get me some now. I was like, you realized
Speaker 1: we scripted it. In the car on the way to
Speaker 1: the restaurant. I was like, oh, but I mean right
Speaker 1: after we finished filming, I called my agent. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I if this show gets picked up, I cannot do it.
Speaker 1: I absolutely cannot live with it because all of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was I mean, in lack of a
Speaker 1: better word, a complete show. It really was, and honestly,
Speaker 1: none of the personalities really like went together very well
Speaker 1: and whatever it was, it was definitely a show. It
Speaker 1: was like, what is happening here? Um? But yeah, I
Speaker 1: know I was mortified. Yeah, you were like so scary. Um.
Speaker 1: I definitely felt for your Real Housewives co stars. When
Speaker 1: I found out you were on there, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh god, I was like good. The next time I
Speaker 1: even saw you was I was filming for Housewives. We
Speaker 1: were doing the runway and you were walking in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you were so nice and and like I was like,
Speaker 1: that's ver. Yeah, that was fun. That was good. Um,
Speaker 1: yeah that was awesome. So no, I listen, I mean
Speaker 1: after the next day or whatever, Yeah, I was like, whatever,
Speaker 1: she's she was just doing you know, acting basically, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I was doing. But then it was
Speaker 1: a real wake up call. Then when I when I
Speaker 1: got you know, Housewives, that like, that's not actually how
Speaker 1: reality television is, Like there was there's there was nothing
Speaker 1: scripted on that. There was nothing like producers weren't like hey,
Speaker 1: you know, like yeah you and like I remember that.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, this is actually like we're
Speaker 1: just showing up and being authentic. Granted, my authentic self
Speaker 1: is not always the best, so trust me, I've been
Speaker 1: there with you. I mean, listen, if everybody on the
Speaker 1: planet was filmed all the time and on television, they
Speaker 1: would have moments that they would cringe at. Um. But
Speaker 1: it's kind of good when you see yourself in that
Speaker 1: light because then you can really work on yourself and like,
Speaker 1: you know, see the things that you don't like about
Speaker 1: yourself and just fix them. So I'm definitely on the
Speaker 1: journey of like on that path. So whatever happens happened.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I can say my marriage has
Speaker 1: got stronger. Really why doing the show, because I realized
Speaker 1: the first season how much I was like nagging my
Speaker 1: husband and I was like, wow, babe, I didn't even
Speaker 1: realize I was doing that. And he's like yeah, And
Speaker 1: I really like took account for I'm like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to change this behavior because sometimes you don't see the
Speaker 1: parts of yourself and to all of a sudden, there's
Speaker 1: like a camera focused in and on. I'm like, I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't be like this anymore. He's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: too much, and like it really like shift our conversation.
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, reality TV can be hard,
Speaker 1: but it also can be like eye opening to you know,
Speaker 1: some of the habits we've picked up absolutely, Like I
Speaker 1: definitely need to work on my emotional drinking. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's when it's fun, it's great, but when you're drinking
Speaker 1: when you're sad, like I had literally just come off
Speaker 1: a divorce, so I was just like kind of crumbling
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, So it was hard, but I
Speaker 1: definitely know that, like, yeah, I need to not emotionally drink,
Speaker 1: you know. I kind of start a rule for myself
Speaker 1: that I followed every time except once, which is three
Speaker 1: drink max while filming a lot. Even three and I'm wasted.
Speaker 1: So it's well, if it's full, like a full like
Speaker 1: a lot of hours, if you crammed into one dinner,
Speaker 1: that's too much. But like if it, I was like okay.
Speaker 1: But the one night that I didn't, I was like
Speaker 1: a hot mess. And I woke up the next day
Speaker 1: and I was like, how am I going to live
Speaker 1: my life? Like I'm thinking like, bitches, get ready when
Speaker 1: I can stop thing? It's all on, you know, like
Speaker 1: that's it. I Am just gonna be that clean. Be
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, what is one thing you can
Speaker 1: tease for everybody as we wrap it up? Um? What
Speaker 1: can I tease? Oh my god? What can I tease? Well? Um,
Speaker 1: what can I tease? You're going to be very surprised
Speaker 1: about who I actually have a crush on this season. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's a tease. And um, you guys get to
Speaker 1: learn a lot about my my company, Pizza Girl. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you get to learn about how I lost it all
Speaker 1: through COVID and had to start all over. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I actually get it back together and you know, a
Speaker 1: single mom, women owned startup company and yeah, it's actually
Speaker 1: going really well now. So check it out Pizza Girl
Speaker 1: dot com, um and follow at Pizza Girl Official, please
Speaker 1: support and um yeah, you know, it's been a long,
Speaker 1: crazy ride and I'm really grateful for where I am
Speaker 1: right now. So you'll get to come along with me
Speaker 1: for that ride, I think, unless it ends up the
Speaker 1: cutting room floor. Well I love it. I'm so proud
Speaker 1: of you. Please send me some of the sauce. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sending it your way. You are said it was amazing,
Speaker 1: so please send away. And I'm hoping for the best
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. And I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see who that crush is. Oh yeah, alright, guys, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a little break and then I'll be on
Speaker 1: with Jordana from CST key. So now we're bringing on Geordana. George. Sorry,
Speaker 1: now we're bring on Jordana from the CISA key And
Speaker 1: so thanks for joining us, Thanks for having me. So
Speaker 1: you this is the first time ever doing reality TV.
Speaker 1: How does it feel? Um, honestly, it feels like second
Speaker 1: nature to me. I don't know. I think it was
Speaker 1: like I got to know the camera, like everyone behind
Speaker 1: the camera and stuff, so like I started getting easier
Speaker 1: and easier, and it just at first I was a
Speaker 1: little scary, but I got over that quick. Um. Do
Speaker 1: you have any regrets from this season? Um? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think my I think my most regret is not getting
Speaker 1: the painting how I wanted it. But that made me
Speaker 1: a little sad by the way, because you put a
Speaker 1: lot of effort into that, so I felt your pain there, um,
Speaker 1: but I thought you did a nice job. The thing
Speaker 1: about that was I had told Sam and Juliet many
Speaker 1: times that I needed like specific photos of her, and
Speaker 1: I never got anything. And this was like months and
Speaker 1: months of like production asking me, like, you know, when
Speaker 1: you're gonna start the painting, this isn't that. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't start it until I have like what I need,
Speaker 1: you know. So I wish I would have gone what
Speaker 1: I needed because at first the painting looked like juliett
Speaker 1: and then it started to morph like the longer. I
Speaker 1: don't even know how to explain it, but like the
Speaker 1: way the way it started, the way it ended is
Speaker 1: like not how it started. I don't even know what happened.
Speaker 1: I honestly, it just I think I was working with
Speaker 1: her selfies, and herselfies are completely different than like suttle shade.
Speaker 1: There shuttles subtle shade. I mean maybe just a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. There's a there's a lot
Speaker 1: of faces that that painting had already, so not wrong
Speaker 1: through another one. Well, you know, don't beat yourself up girl,
Speaker 1: like I you know, I think that and Tever, how
Speaker 1: do you know Sam in the first place? Um, me
Speaker 1: and Sam we go way back actually, like almost ten
Speaker 1: years now. I met him through one of my best
Speaker 1: friends that lives in Tampa now. But um, she knew
Speaker 1: Sam and all Sam's friends and we used to party
Speaker 1: with them and get really crazy. Um, Sam and Brittany
Speaker 1: to break up all the time, so they would like
Speaker 1: beyond break so get back together. And like when I
Speaker 1: would hang out with Sam, him and Brittany would be
Speaker 1: on a break and he'd be like in party mode
Speaker 1: and like whatever, and then me and Brittany got close,
Speaker 1: and you know, it all just trickled from there. But um,
Speaker 1: I actually met really years back. She used to like
Speaker 1: come hang out at Sam's house with Alex and like party,
Speaker 1: but I never really talked to her. Had like a
Speaker 1: few conversations, not too much. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is public knowledge because I'm newer to watching the show,
Speaker 1: But did you and Sam used to hook up? We did?
Speaker 1: I mean we did once, but I mean out of
Speaker 1: ten years of friendship, you know, like it didn't continue
Speaker 1: so like we were just better off as friends and
Speaker 1: we like knew it, and I love him to death
Speaker 1: and he's literally one of my most cherished friends and
Speaker 1: will always be one of my friends. So and in
Speaker 1: this episode, do you remember saying that you loved him
Speaker 1: and wanted to make out with him? Like I felt that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if she's fully remembering this,
Speaker 1: you know, if that was um, I definitely remember saying
Speaker 1: that I loved Sam. I remember saying everyone was so uptight,
Speaker 1: and I was like, like, let's just have fun like
Speaker 1: everyone just like you know, like and it was our
Speaker 1: first time like hanging out after quarantine. Everyone was quarantined
Speaker 1: for like five days, so it was the first night
Speaker 1: we all got together. And like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just went a little to ham I guess, or be
Speaker 1: hard on the paint um with that, but you know
Speaker 1: I I was just like, let's let's joke around. Like
Speaker 1: I was like, let me just like add some fuel
Speaker 1: to the fires, see what happens. And like I guess
Speaker 1: then my drunk self did that, But you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't mean it in a way like, oh, I want
Speaker 1: to make out with Sam. I was just like I
Speaker 1: make out with Sam, like he's not unattractive, like, you know,
Speaker 1: like any normal woman would make out with Sam. Like, well,
Speaker 1: I meant it, but it got taken I gotta taken
Speaker 1: out of context. Yeah, but well, speaking of making out,
Speaker 1: what is going on with Brandon? God, Brandon was putting
Speaker 1: the moves on me way before the island. I need
Speaker 1: to the whole situation, like are you still into Brandon?
Speaker 1: Were you into Brandon or were you just doing it
Speaker 1: for like fine I you know, at first, I was like,
Speaker 1: now there's no one here that like I really on
Speaker 1: the show. I was like, there's no one here that
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in, you know, like you know, I
Speaker 1: love a standard Death. But he really is just like
Speaker 1: one of my best friends. And but when me and
Speaker 1: branded the music video together, I just kind of like
Speaker 1: we kind of vibe that day, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: like maybe like he would be fun to talk to,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, you know, since we're gonna be
Speaker 1: stranded on an island together, maybe I should get some
Speaker 1: friends that aren't like aligned with each other, because you know,
Speaker 1: Sam and Juliet. Juliet wasn't really a big fan of
Speaker 1: me stand on me at the time, and you know.
Speaker 1: I was just like, well, let me just creep my alliance,
Speaker 1: isn't it. And I don't know. Me and Brandon just
Speaker 1: hit it off. You're like the black sheep. And I
Speaker 1: like him, I really did. I'm right now, we're not,
Speaker 1: you know. I just I think you'll see the more
Speaker 1: you watch the show what happens between us. But um,
Speaker 1: he just has a lot going on, and honestly, like
Speaker 1: I right now, I need to either be single or
Speaker 1: be with someone who can like elevate me, because if
Speaker 1: that's not the case, then I'm out. You're out. Did
Speaker 1: you know that Kamil was right there or were you?
Speaker 1: I do not remember that. I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: do not remember like kissing Brandon that night. That was
Speaker 1: the first time we kissed too, and I do not
Speaker 1: remember that. And do you think he's still into her?
Speaker 1: From what I've heard. I don't know if it's just
Speaker 1: like people being catty with me, but from what I've heard, yes,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I try to like stay out
Speaker 1: of that. We might need to boy by him, we
Speaker 1: need we might like I I you know, watching it,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. I even the combo
Speaker 1: he had with like his ex and the baby. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, I might be out on
Speaker 1: that situation for you if you're looking to elevate yourself. No,
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I'm playing nine years old, like
Speaker 1: you know, I you know, I don't think I have
Speaker 1: time for that nonsense. Might end up hurting more than
Speaker 1: it's helping. So what's the one thing as we close,
Speaker 1: because we don't have much time, that you can tease
Speaker 1: that's coming up that people are going to be excited
Speaker 1: to see. Um? Oh, I can't say you mean coming
Speaker 1: up in the next episode or like just in just
Speaker 1: in general. Okay, I can't say that I get a
Speaker 1: rego at the portrait? Oh how can you? Can you
Speaker 1: damn it to me? I want to see it before
Speaker 1: anybody else. Yes, I mean if I'm allowed to, I will. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's already done. I mean, it's kind of done.
Speaker 1: It's it's done enough for the cameras. But I'm actually
Speaker 1: going back to Sam's later this month to like put
Speaker 1: the finishing touches on it, because it's never done, you know,
Speaker 1: for me. But well, and how do you can Juliet
Speaker 1: stand today? Oh? No, We're good. I mean, like, listen,
Speaker 1: this is the thing. It's she's dating one of my
Speaker 1: best friends. Like I never want there to be any
Speaker 1: kind of tension there, you know, like it's I'm too
Speaker 1: grown for that, and I feel like Sam feels the
Speaker 1: same way. Um. You know, at first, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that it's not heated a lot, because that whole island
Speaker 1: was just awkward. A lot of it was super awkward.
Speaker 1: Like there was times where I wasn't like I would
Speaker 1: be so dumb with everybody. I needed like three or
Speaker 1: four days to myself when I wasn't filming, and I
Speaker 1: would just take my little iPad, go on the hammock,
Speaker 1: put on my computer on my iPad, and watch it
Speaker 1: like all day, like Crime Mystery Ship all day. I'm
Speaker 1: like this, okay, now I'm back at my annoyal reality
Speaker 1: so of like not TV stuff, you know, so my
Speaker 1: escape is crime as well. My husband will come in
Speaker 1: and he'll be like, what are you watching the full
Speaker 1: asleep to I'm like, I can't. I don't know why
Speaker 1: it's so soothing. I did that the other day and
Speaker 1: I woke up in the morning and my front door
Speaker 1: was unlocked. I was like, leave my front door unlogged.
Speaker 1: Watching crime documentaries and would be the girl that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, does that so good? So where do people
Speaker 1: find you so they can be in the know of
Speaker 1: all things Danna? Um? Well, right now, it's my Instagram,
Speaker 1: which is what I'm mostly on. It's Jordanna Barnes Underscore
Speaker 1: because the other one was taken um and then I
Speaker 1: am building a website right now. I'm currently working on
Speaker 1: putting like all of my original artwork on there and stuff,
Speaker 1: so that's soon to come, which is super exciting for me. Well,
Speaker 1: very cool. Thank you so much for joining us this week,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see what's to come. Likewise, I'm
Speaker 1: excited for you all right bye, and thank you guys
Speaker 1: for joining this week's Hills Cast. I had so much
Speaker 1: fun filling in for Wells. I can't wait to hear
Speaker 1: what he's up to. But uh, I hope that you
Speaker 1: guys can also follow along and listen to my podcast
Speaker 1: at teddy te Pod and I look forward to talk
Speaker 1: to you all soon. This is a Wells Cast with Wells,
Speaker 1: Adams and I Heart Radio podcast