WEBVTT - NFL Draft Triple Take (Mock Draft 3.0), March 22, 2025 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:11.039 Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the Triple Take, 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:15.360 brought to you by up MC. I'm Mike Pursuita from 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.840 Steelers dot Com and the Steelers Audio Network, joined us 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:23.160 always by the tag team from the Drive on SNR 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.919 and the Steelers Audio Network. You can also catch Dale 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:30.200 Lawley's work and Matt Williamson's work on Steelers dot Com. Guys, 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:31.000 how are we doing? 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:31.880 We're doing. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.800 We're getting closer to the draft now, we're basically a 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.040 two months out. I guess it's time. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:41.360 Tight A wave a free agency has hit us and gone, 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:43.680 and there's still some trickling effects. But it is about 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:44.839 draft season, it is. 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.640 Indeed, that's why we're here to do another mock draft. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.720 I believe this is mock three. I think so, yes, 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:55.440 where Matt Dale and myself go through our picks, and 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:57.960 this is the time before we get into it, where 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:02.280 I remind everyone that these are our picks, not Mike Tomlins, 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.640 not Omar Khan's not, Sheldon White's not, Danny Colbert's not 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.240 anybody who matters. It's what we think might happen. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:10.920 We kind of matter. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:16.000 Great scheme of things so much not in comparison to 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.720 those guys. But just to remind everyone in case you're 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.560 new to this type of programming here on the Steelers' 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.800 social media outlets, we go through the first round of 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.720 the draft basically one through ten. I know it's not 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.360 exactly ten ten, ten, but we divide it up into 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.319 thirds and kind of kick around what we think is 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:38.000 significant in that portion of the first round. So Dale, 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:42.480 let's lead it off with you. Anything surprised or delight 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.240 you going through this for a third time? 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.080 Yeah, I think armand Membo is starting to get some 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:51.120 steam as maybe being the top offensive tackle in this draft. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.440 Arm length was a little bit longer than Will Campbell 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.960 out of LSU. Moved really well down at at the 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.720 combine and all the interview stuff. It's not a knock 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.080 on Campbell at all, but he does have some shorter arms. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.560 Membo might be getting again some steam as that top 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.120 offensive tackle in this draft. 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.280 And along those lines, you have Campbell sticking in the 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.320 Bayou and they took a tackle in the first round 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.639 last year, so that worked out quite well too. Mason 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.720 Graham Will Johnson have some things to work out at 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.400 their pro day, but I can see them in the 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:22.200 top ten for sure. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.000 Well let's let's see if you did, in fact put 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:26.639 them in the top ten. As we switched it over 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:31.160 to Matt Williamson's first round picks one through ten, and 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.480 I'm not saying, uh, look at that Shor Sanders all 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.359 the way down to number nine to number nine. 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.919 Yeah, and the last time the Saints used a first 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:46.600 round pick on a quarterback Archie Manning, so. 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.519 It was exactly a while run our third generation. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.519 His grandson might be their next one. But anyway, I 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:58.200 wouldn't mind putting Chador at two or three because I 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.200 really feel strongly that Campbell going to the Titans at 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.320 one and they might not even be open for business, 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:05.760 and that puts a lot of pressure on the Browns 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.679 and Giants to take a quarterback, even if Carter or 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.519 Hunter is a more highly ranked guy. And as Dale mentioned, 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.600 I have Membo going high too. I mean, he's the 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.400 first of those three that I think are kind of 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.040 pigeonholed as the top three guys coming off the board. 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:20.240 There. 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.200 Yeah, we're starting to hear at least you don't know 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.639 what to believe at this time of year, but kind 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.320 of the pecking order going into the process, the draft 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:33.040 of others the process was Ward Sanders and then everybody 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:36.440 else's the quarterback. Now we're starting to hear some buzz 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:40.480 that maybe Sanders is potentially not in that club either. 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.320 It sure seems like Ward stands alone, and he does 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.200 in my personal rankings too. I think he's in competition 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.040 from the guys last year he may have been the 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.800 third or fourth off the board, where Sanders to me 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.480 is more like a Pennix or a McCarthy prospect, maybe 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:59.640 even slightly behind. But we just know how this works. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.200 I mean, where else are the Browns, Giants, et cetera 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:03.000 going to get their guy? 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.600 Yeah, I mean it's such a quarterback star of league. 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.120 And you know, we have a number of teams out 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.480 there as we tape this that still don't have a 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:15.640 starter in place, really surprisingly enough, and so you know, 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.760 but there are still what four teams that don't have one, 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.400 and there just aren't enough free agent quarterbacks out there 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.000 to get one. So somebody's going to be going to 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:25.360 fish in these waters. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:29.159 Yeah, that's kind of the theory I'm employing. In my 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.680 one through ten. I've still got Ward one and Sanders three. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.360 I've got them in that order, and I've got them 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:39.440 both going rapidly. Because of that, I don't know that 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.360 Sanders is necessarily my second quarterback, but I think he's 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:44.200 going to be the second one. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:45.920 Where is he like the second or third best player 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.839 in this draft? No, but the position value dictates. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.040 I've got the two Georgia edge guys that are going 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.479 in succession. It's any difference between those two A. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.760 Lot of different style, but stylistically there are a lot different. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.039 The quality of player, and it depends what you're looking for, 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.240 projecting more at the NFL level than you got at 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.919 the college level just because of the depth of rotation. 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.159 To add I look at Walker Moore as an inside 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.560 linebacker who can play outside, whereas Michael Williams. I mean, 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.320 he's six five, two sixty, He's an edge all day long. 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.080 The Saints have traditionally taken those huge edge guys too, 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:21.640 the Cam Jordan's and those types. 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.240 If that fits pretty well. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.159 Dale, If I'm remembering correctly, you had genty going to 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.240 the Raiders as well, I believe, so, yeah, not too 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:30.480 high for back if it's that. 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.880 Back right, right, I mean, if he's the guy and 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.120 people were talking about him as being a top five 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.880 talent in this draft, then you don't let him slide. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.120 You know, sayt Kwon Barkley was one of the top 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.560 picks in his draft. Christian McCaffery was one of the 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.200 top picks in his draft. Not saying genty is those guys, 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.599 but in this particular draft, when you don't have clear 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.640 cut top line talent, which this one doesn't. 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:56.280 It's deep, but it doesn't have the blue chippers. If 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.080 he's the best player, you take the best player. 0:05:58.200 --> 0:05:59.720 I think you make the argument he is the best 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.800 player in the draft. He's not my number one, but 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:06.080 he's right there with Carter and Hunter and Ward's. 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:06.880 Obviously a different beast. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.800 But at Dale's point, I don't see a lot of 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.720 sure fire blue chip no matter when they come out. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:14.400 Top five picks in this draft. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.280 You know, we're all listing Travis Hunter as quarterback slash 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:19.360 wide receiver. 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:20.440 If anyway he lands. 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.279 Yeah, I think he's cornerback first because I think that's 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.400 the tougher position to find. 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:27.640 Whereas wide receivers. 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.839 You know, you can find those guys, and it's more 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.320 difficult in my opinion, to play out of the gate 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.960 at cornerback, and then you can also then do some 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.680 wide receiver stuff. You only have so many cornerbacks you 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.000 can suit up on game day. You can suit up 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:43.280 five or six wide receivers. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.159 You may not have that many cornerbacks. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.039 The only caveat to me is if he lands with 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:49.719 New England because they're corners. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:50.760 They have two really good. 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.359 Corners now and they're really lacking a receiver. I would 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.560 think if he ends up at FOURD in New England, 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.520 why don't you start running routes Travis? 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.560 Yeah, could you see him becoming a gu Not that 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.640 he's going to go both ways as he did at Colorado, 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.440 but situationally played the other position. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.400 Yeah, I absolutely could. 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.640 Either in a package type of deal or out of necessity. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.840 Yes, that being said to me, he's the best corner 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:15.920 in the draft and the best receiver in the draft. 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:19.000 If he can do some of both, he could be special. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.800 But let's stick with you as we move it along 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:26.880 and check out picks eleven through twenty. You got a 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:28.640 little Texas thing going on here early. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.800 Yeah, the Dolphins signed James Daniels, who were all familiar with, 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.400 but they could use Moro line help, that's for sure. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.000 One thing you'll notice in mind, which I didn't do 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.720 on purpose is I only had two receivers going in 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.400 the entire first round, and this is the first one 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.880 golden one to be named later here. Didn't do it 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.280 on purpose, but just kind of worked that way. Josh 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.520 Simmons at eleven, and I don't know what to do 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.840 with them. I mean, he's a pure tackle. Free agency 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.600 has shown us that tackles make a ton of money, 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:00.679 and I think they're gonna get Rien up the board, 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:02.280 but he has to get cleared medically first. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.400 And that's the thing too with this tackle class. You 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.360 know a lot of these guys, you look. 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.480 At them, well, he might be a tackle, but his 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.560 future might be at guard. And Simmons is a tackle 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.240 like He's got the arm link, he's got the height, 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.400 the weight, and the experience in the movement. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.880 You know, some of these other guys they're alone the 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:22.480 shorter side or they get some shorter arms. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.160 They're gonna try him at tackle first and then decide 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.400 whether they can stick there or not. Whereas a guy 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.480 like Simmons, he's gonna play tackle. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.560 And from what I heard, you guys were at the combine, 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.920 I was watching it on the NFL network. With the 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:39.000 reports about his medical were highly encouraging it. Yeah, I 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.280 had his schedule and availability is not going to be 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.199 a problem, and he's doing apparently very well. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.400 Yeah, and that's the only thing that you wonder where 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:47.280 he falls in at on. 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:48.319 You know, one. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.480 Team's medical is not the next team's medicals, and so 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.520 you know, he's kind of one of the wild guards. 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:53.880 There's a lot of them in this year's draft. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.959 A lot of the cornerbacks have some kind of injury 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.080 that they're fighting through. And where do those guys go. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:06.480 Let's take a look now at Dale's picks eleven through twenty. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.920 Yeah, you know, to me, the Golden versus Tech McMillan 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:16.760 conversation is one that you know, we know Golden's fast. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.079 He ran a four two nine forty. He's he's got size. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.920 McMillan ran a four to four eight at his pro day. 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.360 He didn't run, you know, at the combine, and typically 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.440 those pro day times are faster than what you see 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:32.400 at the combine. So I just think he's an explosive player. 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.320 I think he's the first receiver drafted this year. 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.400 You've also got derk Harmon maybe a little higher than 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:39.760 I've seen him mocked most places. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.079 He's a good player, and you know, the Seahawks should 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:43.720 know all about him. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.160 He played last year at Oregon. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.240 I just think that, you know, when you need big 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.960 guys that can move like him, who you know, play 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:52.480 with a certain style. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.079 I don't know where he learned that at because of 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.040 Michigan State initially. 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.240 Yeah, but yeah, you know, I think he's a good 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.520 player and we'll see where that balls at. 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:06.199 The defensive tackle class this year is deep. I'm not 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:07.439 sure exactly how they'll fall though. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.280 Yeah, I'm not sure exactly. It's going to depend on 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.200 what you're looking for. I think it's like that. 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.360 At a lot of positions. I mean, the word I 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.520 heard going into this at the very beginning of the 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:19.520 process was it's not necessarily star studded, right, But there's 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.800 a lot of depth and a lot of quality. And 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.880 I think we're seeing this in a lot of these positions. 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:28.280 How do you stack them a receiver, defensive tackle, offensive tackle, 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.200 edge rusher, all kind of depends on what you appreciate 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:32.520 and what style do you plaint. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.880 Yeah, and this exercise that we do, we put thirty 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.480 two in the first round three different times. Now, I 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.800 bet there's been a lot of names cumulively between the 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.559 three of us, you know, nine different mock drafts, and 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:44.480 that makes sense because a lot of them are kind 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:44.959 of similar. 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:49.000 It's more about fit necessarily maybe than can you do 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:49.440 it or not. 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.600 I believe that's so be So yeah, let's. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.480 Take a look at what I came up with eleven 0:10:54.559 --> 0:11:00.480 through twenty. Now, there you see, i've got McMillan going twelve. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.800 That's my first receiver. Assuming Hunters a quarter, you never 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.360 really know. I really like these edge guys, all of them. 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:15.960 I don't really I'm differentiating because I have to r Green, Pierce, Stewart. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.800 They're all players of great potential. They have great skill sets. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:25.400 Hampton running back at twenty, that just feels like a 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:26.240 Denver position. 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.600 I think I did the same thing, and they do 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.760 have a need there. Now they signed Ingram, so I 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.800 think they're out of the tight end market. And I 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.920 wanted to mention the tight end Warren too. I think 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:39.960 two of us had Warren lasting to fourteen. I just 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:41.599 don't know where tight ends are going to go. I 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.560 think he's one of the best players in this draft. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.240 I think that's about as low as he could go. 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.120 I think I have just a well right, he's a 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:47.960 really good football. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.880 Do you see him as do a lot of stuff 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.800 as he did at ped State or yea, even the 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.400 wildcat quarterback. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.240 And anywhere an occasional pass and he could be the 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.760 toush push guy and do those things too. And he 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.040 has a quarterback background, and when he does go really high, 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.280 he probably should send brock Bowers of fruit basket too, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:06.600 you know. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:11.160 And then just getting back to Membo in general or 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.199 in particular in tackle in general, Matt, the armle like thing. 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.480 Thirty four is ideal. Thirty three you could live with 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.440 thirty two and you might be thinking about guard. 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.319 Yeah, there are works exactly. Thirty four is what you're 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.160 looking for when you draw it up in the draft room. Boy, 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.520 won our tackles have thirty four inch arms, and last 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.920 year's class they pretty much all did across the board, 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.240 including who the Steelers took. There's a lot of examples 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.280 of between thirty three and thirty four where you know, 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.520 Penney Seoul, Joe Thomas have had great careers, but it's 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.240 a little more difficult. Under thirty three. 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.760 There's like zero examples of tackles doing well. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:51.920 It's crazy, that's amazing. 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:53.880 It's amazing. I mean it's an inch. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.000 Right, right, But these guys that they'd have to block 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.640 with the long arms, I mean, they get the first 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.880 and you're kind of sitting there swimming without any you know, contact, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:04.320 amazing difference. 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.520 You have to be an extreme athlete to get by, 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.000 you know, in that situation, technician, all that stuff. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.199 And if you you could say it is a game 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:13.800 of inches. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.079 And you know, if Troy Filotano was in this draft, 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.760 he'd be the number one tackle. I mean that that's 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.640 just how deep that that tackle class was last year. 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.720 All right, let's move on to the bottom third and 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:31.079 uh well, let's let's get right to it. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:37.120 I went there, You went there, elect the player a lot, 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:37.960 and I. 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.040 Think for the team that's making the selection, it's time. 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:46.000 I don't disagree that it's time, and it's been that 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:47.240 way for several years now. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.839 I just don't know that that's the guy now. I 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:50.920 say that. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.959 And we talked about this draft not being top heavy 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.920 at all, but deep, and so what's going to happen 0:13:58.280 --> 0:13:59.520 in this particular draft. 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:00.760 Like year, we'll we get. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.600 Twenty six in our final mock draft, twenty six players 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:04.920 who went in the first round. 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.680 We got right, it might be twenty. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:11.320 This year because because you know, the difference between player 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:15.319 number twelve and player number sixty in this particular year's 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.559 draft might not be all that different on team boards. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.240 So I get it. 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.400 You know, Dart being somewhere in the first round, he 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:27.040 may have the same grade as a guy who went fifteenth. 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.680 But I don't know. I don't know that I like 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.720 him that much. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.640 Daniel Jeremiah, the NFL network, very very plugged in. His 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.720 mock came out the morning we recorded this, twenty one 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:40.920 Jackson Dart. 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.400 To the Steelers. I actually gave the better information. 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.240 I figured I got it from I think I think 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.280 Tiper's draft that came out today had him ninth. 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.320 They really yeah, okay, And they both do the most 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.120 plugged in guys out there, So I mean, when in 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:55.920 Dal take a quarterback, I understand it. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:57.960 You know, one of the things I can't remember if 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.800 I've mentioned this sold of these shows before, but I 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.640 heard an interview with Jackson Dart around the Senior Bowl 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.200 before or during or after, and he talked about his 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.360 opinion of playing at Old Miss and it's a very 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:14.320 sophisticated position. It's not as easy as people think, and 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.400 he talked about the coaching incredibly difficult. The coaching, Yeah, 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.640 maybe get one of the fans to do it. He's 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.080 talked about the coaching he's gotten from Kiff and Lane 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:29.400 Kiffin and Joe Judge and Charlie Weiss and how detail 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.680 you have to be on your details to play there, 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.480 and that made an impression on me. Maybe it's uh, 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.440 maybe he's coming from a good place that way. 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.760 I mean, he's been around big time quarterback developers that 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.280 have a lot of NFL experience and there's no question 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.720 about that, and he's got traits. So, as we mentioned 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.440 ten minutes ago, there's a lot of teams in the quarterbacks, 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.080 including the team picking at twenty one. 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:52.480 Where are you gonna get him? 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.440 Yeah, you guys are talking about receiver earlier. I've got 0:15:55.440 --> 0:16:00.360 a couple going late. You see, I love a book. 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:04.240 I've mucked into the Steelers before, can't do that this time. 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.720 I love Walter Nolan, I've mucked into the Steelers before, 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.080 but hate to see him go to Baltimore because I 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:11.200 like that guy a lot too. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.120 Yeah, And that's the you know the problem with some 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.840 of this stuff, like guys who again, once you get 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.840 past those first eleven, ten, eleven, twelve guys. Is like, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.120 all right, now, what does that particular team need, and 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.880 that has changed and continues to change throughout free agency. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:30.200 It's take a look at mister Williamson's twenty one through 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.520 thirty two and defensive tackle. Can't argue that's a need. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:35.000 No. 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:39.240 I mean, he's a remarkable specimen that would be more 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.800 nos than he would three four end, but that you 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:43.880 can move him all over the line of scrimmage. He 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.960 has immense upside. I wanted to mention Maxwell Harriston as well. 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:49.680 It's the first time I put him in the first round. 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.800 Interrest the big need for the rams at corner. He 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:56.360 had a phenomenal testing he takes the ball away. 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.320 Yeah. I think it's one of those guys you guys 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.000 were referencing a moment ago about the first round could 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:03.920 not work out the way we think it's gonna cause 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.360 there are a number of those guys that are maybes. 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:06.760 Yeah. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:07.280 Yeah. 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:08.800 And the last guy I wanted to mention too is 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.760 the Chiefs. Because they traded Joe Toney all of a sudden, 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.560 they got a gaping hole at left guard. Jackson was 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.959 forced to play left tackle. Because of the Simmons injury. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:18.879 But he's really a guard. I think they'd be thrilled 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:19.119 with him. 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.359 There what an advantage, So you know he can do it, 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.280 do both, right, I mean, because. 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:24.240 Those was a problem for him. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.160 Lest guys have to be positioned flexible. Yeah maybe this year. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.560 Yeah, it would have been least tuney to go from 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.800 left guard to left tackle and the Super Bowl and 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:32.560 playoffs and. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:33.440 Well he can do that too. 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.960 He just kind of tried. Dale. Let's see what you've 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.240 got twenty one through thirty two. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.760 I also have Kenneth Grant. You haven't killed the Kenneth 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.240 Grant pick. And he's a Michigan guy. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.760 No, Hey, I'm you know, I take them as they come. 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:52.800 I was a pretty big fan of Devin Bush, and 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.960 I still wonder how his crew would have worked out 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.640 had he not gotten injured when he did, and how 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.439 he did. But Grant, to me, he's kind of the 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:06.879 new age into your defensive line. He gets push. He 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:08.880 doesn't get a lot of sacks, but he gets pressure. 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.879 Reminds me like a Hilodinada or a Vita Vea. Those 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.800 guys you don't have to take them off. They don't 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.600 they're not just a stump in the middle, and they're 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.680 taller and bigger and disrupt passing lanes and they push 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:19.280 people around. 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.080 Yeah, and he definitely pushes people around. The other guys. 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.560 I want to talk about their great Zabel going to 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:26.320 the Ravens there. 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.200 The other guys may first round. 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.480 I hated leaving them out of my first round. Ye, 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:31.679