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Speaker 1: From twenty eighteen RAMS Training Camp here on the campus

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Speaker 1: of UC Irvine. Welcome to Between the Horns. I'm Miles Simmons.

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Speaker 1: I have DeMarco far to my right. It is August first,

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Speaker 1: about two o'clock Pacific time here in Mainvine, California. We've

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Speaker 1: made it. We've made it to season three of Between

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Speaker 1: the Horns finally training camp version right, our first one

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Speaker 1: Between the Horns. Yes, been a long time. It has

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Speaker 1: been at our triumphant return, our triumphant return. It's right.

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Speaker 1: What's happening? Not to size everything a lot. Yeah. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, I mean, I think it's been good

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Speaker 1: to see these guys go through a couple of practices

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Speaker 1: in pads UM and naturally see them kind of play

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Speaker 1: football for the first time, you know, in a long

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Speaker 1: time eight months or whatever, getting bumped, pushed, captain passes,

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Speaker 1: throws exactly. It was funny. Jared Goff was on the

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Speaker 1: set the other day UM for RAMS Camp Live. I

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Speaker 1: asked him, okay, like, how much of an adjustment do

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Speaker 1: you have to make when you're going to pads for

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Speaker 1: the first time, And he's like, yeah, I was thinking

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Speaker 1: thrown in pads for a while, so now you're really

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Speaker 1: starting to feel like, Okay, you know, the proverbial football

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Speaker 1: is back things. Yeah, I mean you got pads on,

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Speaker 1: so your mechanics are gonna be a little bit different

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Speaker 1: per position, right, I mean it's just a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: Your angle, your body lane is going to be different

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Speaker 1: in the interior. But yeah, just watching these guys go

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Speaker 1: with the offensive side of the ball. I think we

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Speaker 1: all have been impressed with that side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: the efficiency what they've been working on, the guys that

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Speaker 1: are getting the work that need the work, and the

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Speaker 1: guys that are just getting the polished plus the work

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Speaker 1: at the same time, the veteran guys. And then the

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Speaker 1: explosion of Brandon Cooks on the scene. Yeah, wow, just

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Speaker 1: Ben special. So yeah, it's it's a lot to like,

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Speaker 1: It's very encouraging this time of year. This is different

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Speaker 1: for a lot of Rams fans. It's different for a

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Speaker 1: lot of the players coming into a season like this

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Speaker 1: when you just kind of rehashing what you have done

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Speaker 1: and just polishing that sort of work, right, It's not

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Speaker 1: like your learning a system. We've talked about this before.

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Speaker 1: This is the first time since twenty fourteen that the

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Speaker 1: Rams are going into a season with the same play

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Speaker 1: caller as the year before. Yeah, so, like that makes

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Speaker 1: an incredible difference, just first of all, and then I

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Speaker 1: think the fact that it's Sean McVeigh and the fact

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Speaker 1: that this is a high level offensive mind. I think

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Speaker 1: we're already starting to see some of the differences that

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Speaker 1: are going to occur in terms of just an evolution

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Speaker 1: of what the offensive scheme is going to be. Like

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Speaker 1: you're calling a certain route, thank you very much. Calling

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Speaker 1: a certain route last season, and I mean you've repped it,

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Speaker 1: you've rapped it. You had a lot of success obviously

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Speaker 1: with the way you scored. But now it's just let's

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Speaker 1: this is where I needed or this is where Jared's

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Speaker 1: of look we're getting. So it's just those little things.

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Speaker 1: Watching the way they were won screens. Now you can

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Speaker 1: tell there's an expectation that this thing is going to

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Speaker 1: blow if I get to this point, like say, Witworth saffled,

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Speaker 1: if I get to this point just that much faster,

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Speaker 1: I know Tod's going to pass me on this hip

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Speaker 1: he's off to the races those little things. So screens

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Speaker 1: that is definitely an expectation and it should be. You

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Speaker 1: brought up Todd Gurley. We haven't had a chance to

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Speaker 1: down of the four year extension. What were your first

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Speaker 1: get done so early? I think you want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that look Todd put in work. And this is

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Speaker 1: situations are different. Yes, I believe Todd is more easily

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Speaker 1: signable right now. That contract is easier to get done

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Speaker 1: obviously it's easier to get done because it's done now.

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Speaker 1: But it's the same. I mean, a guy put in

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Speaker 1: seventeen year old daughter. Yes, exactly. But I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Todd after he signed that extension, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well now we would just want more. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the case of Todd, it's like, Okay, what more can

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Speaker 1: and total touchdowns and all that, But there still seems

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Speaker 1: to more out there for him, right well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: with Todd. You don't have to worry about the contract.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to stress over talk to your agents,

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Speaker 1: right now, a constant back and forth, and when you

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Speaker 1: hit the field, it's always just about football, not about

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Speaker 1: numbers or who's mad at whatever. Ye just make sure

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Speaker 1: lie really, yeah, because we see everybody thought that was funny.

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Speaker 1: See we were talking about okay, when you have to

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Speaker 1: to worry about Todd for a couple of years. Okay,

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Speaker 1: The fact that this team now is in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: for him. This is a place where he probably wants

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Speaker 1: star power. Yes, you want to set down roots, and no,

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Speaker 1: guaranteed that I'm going to see that, I already see

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Speaker 1: the image like Todd Gurley hurdling the new stadium. Can

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Speaker 1: you see this? Yeah? You see. I mean, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure that's been on a poster somewhere. Oh, is that

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Speaker 1: where I'm getting it from? Now? No, don't I thought

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Speaker 1: I came up with that. It's like George Harris where

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Speaker 1: he's he made My Sweet Lord. Yeah. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 1: we'll copyright that, thank you very much. But it's just

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Speaker 1: interesting that, you know, you now have Todd locked up

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Speaker 1: through twenty twenty three. You also now have Brandon Cooks

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Speaker 1: it also makes sense to lock up a guy like that.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, but you also gave up a first

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Speaker 1: round pick for him, and so the lot, yes, it does.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that you know this is a guy

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Speaker 1: that's averaged seventy six receptions eleven hundred thirty one yards

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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns over the last three years. Yeah, that's just

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Speaker 1: the ones that he caught. Yes, right, so yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's not even factoring in. Okay, how else does

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Speaker 1: he take the top off the defense or Brady missed him,

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Speaker 1: or Breeze just missed him. He was wide open over there. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think from that perspective, you just have a guy

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Speaker 1: who has demonstrated consistency. Yeah. And something that Sean mcvas

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Speaker 1: got posted when Brandon Cooks signed his extension, Sean McVay said,

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Speaker 1: he made it really easy to go to bat form

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Speaker 1: because this is a guy that has done it. And

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Speaker 1: we've seen the Rams hand out an extension before where

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Speaker 1: a player didn't play a snap for the team. I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking of a quarterback that actually won the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: last year. Yes, so we've seen that, and we've seen

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Speaker 1: it not necessarily go as well as somebody would like.

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Speaker 1: We could say Nick Foles, Yeah, he won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I mean last year. I know it's not for you

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Speaker 1: must not be named out anyway, go ahead, Yes, but

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Speaker 1: I think in some ways this is different because you

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Speaker 1: have more demonstrated consistency. Not only that, but also Sean

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Speaker 1: because I think you're disrespected me because I earned this

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Speaker 1: contract and you're not given it to me. I think

427
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Speaker 1: both sides understand this is a negotiation. Yes, this is

428
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Speaker 1: not easy, and you can trust that your player is

429
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Speaker 1: staying in shape. When we get this done, you can

430
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Speaker 1: plug him right in. I just I think about this

431
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Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald. The guy loves football. He's always all

432
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Speaker 1: about ball. He loves to hit people. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

433
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Speaker 1: You can only do that in football, so okay. He

434
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Speaker 1: loves to chase things down, yes yeah, and he's very

435
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Speaker 1: very good at it. Absolutely, and he's always hunt without

436
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Speaker 1: a weapon, right yeah. The first few off seasons, I

437
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Speaker 1: would ask him, you know, how much did you take

438
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Speaker 1: some time off? Would you do? I think the first

439
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Speaker 1: year he said, I try to take two weeks, and

440
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Speaker 1: then I just I couldn't. He is a drunkie. He

441
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Speaker 1: is a weight room I need to get better junkie. Yes, yes,

442
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Speaker 1: and then like I think it was the second year.

443
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Speaker 1: It was like nah, I took maybe a week and

444
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Speaker 1: then I was back. Yeah, I go back to when

445
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Speaker 1: he was drafted and hearing that the room was split

446
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Speaker 1: on him. I wonder what the other side thinks. Now,

447
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Speaker 1: I bet you they're not copying to it that they

448
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Speaker 1: that we probably they didn't want Donald. Yeah, he is

449
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Speaker 1: absolutely tremendously. The only knock on him is he's not

450
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Speaker 1: very tall, and I think he's made up for that.

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Speaker 1: We'll think about I mean he was picked number thirteen overall, right,

452
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Speaker 1: so really twelve teams passed on him, including the Los

453
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Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. Yeah, we called him mini Fanosans Yeah, how

454
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Speaker 1: about that. Thanos is like really tall, many short. I

455
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Speaker 1: hear you shorter Thanos. Danos is little brother. But I

456
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Speaker 1: would sue resembles more of a Thanos to me, just

457
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Speaker 1: based on what he's more Juggernauts. He's more Juggernauts, I

458
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Speaker 1: mean just absolute when he gets going, Juggernaut is a character.

459
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Speaker 1: Right when he gets going in one direction, he absolutely

460
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Speaker 1: cannot be stopped. Once he gets his momentum going. Yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: Thanos is just Danos is so ser just it. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: he is like the best super villain super movies, superhero

463
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Speaker 1: movie villain. That's what I was trying. I think every

464
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Speaker 1: team would want him because you don't want to have

465
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Speaker 1: to try to block him. Yes, exactly what we're talking

466
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Speaker 1: about either one. Yes, Yeah, on defense though, I mean

467
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Speaker 1: bringing up in Dominicans Sue. The Rams do have three

468
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Speaker 1: new really premo faces on defense. Ensue in Marcus Peters

469
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Speaker 1: in a keep to Leave. What have you thought of

470
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Speaker 1: them so far? See him at camp as good as advertised? Yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: to Leave? You know, I watched a little more, I

472
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Speaker 1: guess more closely than I did Peters because of the

473
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Speaker 1: age and you always worry about the guys falling off

474
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Speaker 1: the cliff, right, But there are special guys at corner

475
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Speaker 1: that can play a long time at outside corner, and

476
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Speaker 1: to Leave is one of them. They do have a

477
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Speaker 1: name and a place for those type people. They live forever,

478
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Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying. It's in Ohio, oh Canton. Yes,

479
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Speaker 1: they do have a special place for people like him

480
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Speaker 1: that or that. You can refuse me a little bit.

481
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Speaker 1: I know it's easy, but I got it when you

482
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Speaker 1: were in Ohio. Those guys that can be special for

483
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Speaker 1: a long period of time. I mean, those guys are

484
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Speaker 1: absolutely special, yes, and I think he belongs in that group. Yeah,

485
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Speaker 1: well it seems like it to me, especially just seeing

486
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Speaker 1: him in the one on one battles. You know, these

487
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: are not bad wide receivers that the Rams have out here, right,

488
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Speaker 1: Robert Woods, I think is a very high quality wide receiver.

489
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Speaker 1: We sought time and again last year. Kiv Talib was

490
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Speaker 1: really shutting him down the other day just in one

491
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Speaker 1: on ones, and those battles are kind of designed so

492
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Speaker 1: that the offense wins, and everything is designing this game

493
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Speaker 1: kind of so that the offense wins, right, I mean

494
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Speaker 1: the defense has to react off every for the most part. Yes,

495
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Speaker 1: But the way Kiev to Li was defending those things,

496
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Speaker 1: just jamming at the point of attack on the line,

497
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Speaker 1: the goal line. It's just it's really fun to watch

498
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Speaker 1: him work his technique. We I had an interview with

499
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Speaker 1: Farrell Cooper and he said the same thing, And it's

500
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Speaker 1: funny watching him keep to lee play a certain guy.

501
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: He is diagnosing your split, your stance, everything that you're

502
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Speaker 1: about to do before the ball is snap. And what

503
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna do is this can't hurt me. You're not

504
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Speaker 1: going to run this and this and this and this

505
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Speaker 1: is all I'm playing for. Yeah, and it seems like

506
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Speaker 1: he's clairvoyant. No, he's just taken away everything based on

507
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: what you gave him. Yeah, that is a product of experience,

508
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Speaker 1: Marcus Peters. It doesn't matter where you are or where

509
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Speaker 1: you're going, He's gonna make up like that. Yeah. Yeah,

510
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Speaker 1: even if you beat him to the outside for a

511
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Speaker 1: split second, his makeup speed is unreal. And I don't

512
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Speaker 1: think you're going to be able to get behind him.

513
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Speaker 1: And if you do, it's he's going to be right

514
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Speaker 1: on your hip. Yeah. Yeah, he's just that quick. He's

515
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Speaker 1: that quick, he's that instinctive. He is. He is so

516
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Speaker 1: good just at making up ground. But I saw a

517
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Speaker 1: play the other day in practice, and I don't remember

518
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Speaker 1: if it was against the ones offense of the twos offense,

519
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: but Marcus Peters was covering somebody who was ostensibly going

520
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Speaker 1: on a deep route. Right, ball gets in the air,

521
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: he makes up the ground and almost intercepts a pass

522
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Speaker 1: that's kind of like on an on an out route,

523
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Speaker 1: small out round. And it was like, how did he

524
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Speaker 1: really understand that quickly that the ball is going into

525
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Speaker 1: the air. It's his football instincts. His football IQ is

526
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 1: just absolutely through. You're just blessed with it. Now. This

527
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Speaker 1: is why I like the pairing between those two, because

528
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Speaker 1: he's gonna learn from McKey to leave. Yes, you don't

529
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Speaker 1: have to worry about this much. Just worry about that,

530
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Speaker 1: and then you you almost bed become a guy you

531
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Speaker 1: can't get, you can't beat. Right, you become a lockdown

532
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Speaker 1: guy even more than more so than you already are.

533
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Speaker 1: The cool thing about learning from a keep to leave

534
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Speaker 1: it and Mark's Peters doing that, I think has been

535
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Speaker 1: the fact that you really don't see those guys too

536
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Speaker 1: far away from each other ever, right if you're down here,

537
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean they come out together to practice. They are

538
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: riding the rotary bikes together to get warmed up for practice.

539
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: They're always talking and communicating when they're going on and

540
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Speaker 1: off the field. I saw the other day on just

541
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Speaker 1: some random route. It was actually Brandon Cooks runs a

542
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Speaker 1: fly route, gets behind them and then all the ball

543
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: is a little bit overthrown. But as they're coming back

544
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Speaker 1: to the sidelines, Marcus Peters and to Keep to Leave

545
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Speaker 1: are just trying to diagnose what happened. All right, This

546
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Speaker 1: is why that happened. Okay, this is what we gotta do.

547
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: And I've seen this before when it goes that's why. Z.

548
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Speaker 1: It's just so interesting to see how those two minds

549
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: are just coming together and like it's gonna be really fun.

550
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: I think to watch them their language, it's going to

551
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: be separate from anybody else on this football team. How

552
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: they communicate and how they read each other. Yeah, and

553
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: it's so important. But something jumping ahead. Man, That's why

554
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: I can't wait for Baltimore, either the practices or the games.

555
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: John Brown, former cardinal. Yeah, been a thorn on the

556
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: RAM side. Yeah for years. Yes, let me see how

557
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: what he does and how he does against this secondary. Yeah,

558
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: it's I don't think you have the same advantages you

559
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: had before. This is a little bit different depending on

560
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Speaker 1: who you get covering you. Welcome back to Between the Horns.

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Speaker 1: As you just heard DeMarco exclaim, we have a very

562
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: special guest here for the podcast, super Bowl Champion as

563
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: well as DeMarco far but I like him better because

564
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: he's on off. Oh my God, to home is with

565
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: us today. Yeah, welcome RAMS Nations, Thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: us here today. I always I've always wanted to have

567
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Speaker 1: you on this heard from Kyle everyskurd you were going

568
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: to be here, so definitely wanted to get you on.

569
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Speaker 1: How much see you just enjoy being around camps all

570
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Speaker 1: of it. I enjoy, oh man, just to seeing the

571
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Speaker 1: fans and the players. Is when I was out here

572
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Speaker 1: for walk through UM and had a chance to visit

573
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Speaker 1: the guys again. I was out in the summer um

574
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Speaker 1: and it feels like I never left and showing those

575
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Speaker 1: guys love and they showing me love. And then I

576
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: had a chance to ride Tied Gurley's bike, the new

577
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Speaker 1: wheels that he got it. One of those like half Man,

578
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Speaker 1: one of them joints now because it's it's a it's

579
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Speaker 1: like a motor motor bicycle, so you can you got

580
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Speaker 1: a little button, yeah, okay, his battery has the motor

581
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: smart or you can pedal. But I chose to use

582
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Speaker 1: the motor deal today and had a black I was

583
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Speaker 1: on for about ten minutes teneen. Did you go to

584
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Speaker 1: the cart towards the end of the year in training camp,

585
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: I didn't all eggs off the legs. Yeah, we walked

586
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Speaker 1: to and front. We shouldn't we have gone to the

587
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Speaker 1: motorize might still be as basically what you're saying, did

588
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Speaker 1: you guys need a golf cards for everybody? He showed

589
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: me if they being too nice or what? Giving these

590
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: smart it's been very smart nice. But you know, back

591
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Speaker 1: then when I first got into the Nasketball League, the rules,

592
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: the mentality was totally different. Yeah. Yeah, rookies didn't speak,

593
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: just spoken to you. Walk to be where you carried.

594
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: The veterans lugged it. I mean I led this, but

595
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: showed the pass and almonds and stuff back to the locker,

596
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: none of this golf cart stuff. And we asked some

597
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: guys that were older brother brother Rady. Now I think

598
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: brother Ray I think was like in his eighth year year.

599
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Speaker 1: I don't know what year you were in six six,

600
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Speaker 1: Adam Timm and man, Yeah, that'some guy. But they walked

601
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Speaker 1: and be where they went. So, you know, we learned.

602
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: But go back, if we could have offered a motorized

603
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Speaker 1: every single absolutely, you're stop being a rookie, all right.

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Speaker 1: Take me back to Tori's rookie year. Oh it was

605
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Speaker 1: your first impression of Tory Rollins. Well, I mean we

606
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Speaker 1: Tory knows this. I mean, my my view of greatness

607
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: at that position, was Isaac Bruce was eighty. I mean

608
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: everything Ad did was wow, it was better than everyone

609
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: else because that's what I saw her every day. So

610
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: I didn't see a receiver that could match him in anything.

611
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: Effort catching, route running, meeting this. That was a part

612
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Speaker 1: of it until Tory showed up. And it was day one.

613
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: It was immediate. When we go to defensive meetings and

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Speaker 1: I'm used to watching Isaac torture guys. Well, wait, who's

615
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: this catt over here? That's given it to our starters already?

616
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Speaker 1: So well that's the Tory Kivy just rapped. Okay, he's

617
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. No, he's gonna be great. He's

618
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: gonna be something special. And it turns out they were right.

619
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Speaker 1: We were right. He is special. Leaves a great yes.

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Speaker 1: But we came in. This is funny. We came in

621
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: the way we came into the league was the exact opposite.

622
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Speaker 1: When I came in, we weren't very good and we

623
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: ascended to greatness. And then Tory you, we were great

624
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: when you came in, and then slowly and started to

625
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: head to not being great. It got bad after you

626
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: guys left. You and Oh left. But watching the offense

627
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Speaker 1: become great and efficient and that attitude you guys took

628
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Speaker 1: to the field. What was that like for you? The offense?

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Speaker 1: It was, it was everything. It was. It was a

630
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Speaker 1: huge part of my development. It was. It was the

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Speaker 1: reason why I was able to go on beyond the

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Speaker 1: greatest show on turf days and still be able to

633
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Speaker 1: rack up the numbers and be productive as I was

634
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Speaker 1: because I was able to learn from a good group

635
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Speaker 1: of veterans, including yourself and or Lando and Adam Timmerman

636
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Speaker 1: and brother Ray and Mike Jones, list goes on and

637
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: all of guys that showed me how to be a pro. Uh,

638
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: So that that stayed with me, and I wanted to

639
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: make sure that I kept that kept that level of

640
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: standard where it was when I first when I first

641
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: got in. So it was huge for me, huge in

642
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: my development. And you mentioned me coming in at the

643
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: time we were sending and then all of a sudden

644
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: we felt I was it's been I've seen last year.

645
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: Went to the players. It was thirteen years right, um,

646
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: and and the more more here, I'm like, wow, damn.

647
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: Like okay, I played in the Super Bowl, but we

648
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: were shitty. So it's like, do I really want to

649
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: be excited about that, right, I do have. I do

650
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: have a lot to be excited about because we played

651
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: in two Super Bowls and during that time, but man,

652
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: it was some years anyway, it was tough. Well, the

653
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: reason I brought that up, it is watching this offense,

654
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: watching Jerry Golf, Todd Gurler in their second year of

655
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: this offense, it's stopped the the exs and those are different.

656
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: It's football. We know football, right, There's only so many

657
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: ways you can attack. But it's just the pepper and

658
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: their step. It's the confidence that you can see on them,

659
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: no doubt. It reminds me of that group. Yeah, and

660
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: just what that felt like for you. And I think

661
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: a lot of and a lot of that comes from

662
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: coach mcvayh in his direction and his leadership and putting

663
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: them in a situation where they knew they're going to

664
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: succeed every single week. The thing about coach marks when

665
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: he walked into the meeting room and he handed us

666
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: our playbooks, we knew we was going to succeed. We

667
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: knew we was going to dominate because of the plays

668
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: that he came up with schematically, the concepts, the routes,

669
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: the depths. All of that was all good because Coach

670
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: Marks gave us the confidence to feel that way. Then

671
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: we gave him the confidence to call whatever he wanted

672
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: to because when we played, the speed in which we played,

673
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: and then the great playmaking ability that we all had

674
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: on the other side of ball. But you right, I

675
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: see some similarities with this Rams offense, particularly going back

676
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 1: to last year when they played the Giants, when they

677
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: were down the football field with Sammy Watkins and Robert Woods,

678
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: and also when they played the Sempacisco forty nine is

679
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: in San fran when you saw Sammy Watkins explode and

680
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: those guys. So there's there is some similarities to that

681
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: greaterst show on turf Um football team. I just want

682
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: to see more and more importantly want to see some champions.

683
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: What about Cooks, That's what about Is he one of you?

684
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: Is he one of the special groups? He can run?

685
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: He can he can he can flat out run, which

686
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: is for defense you have to pay. You gotta honor

687
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: that right, and then everything else for him is going

688
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: to set up all the comebacks, the digs and all

689
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: all those things that will be set up for him

690
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: because he can stretch the defense but it's gonna open

691
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: up things for Coop more. It's gonna open up things

692
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: for Woods more. Hell, that's gonna open up things even

693
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: more for Todd Gurley because now Todd is going to

694
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: see a favorable box that can't have that extra safety

695
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: down in the box to stop the run because they're

696
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: so worried about Robert Woods and Cooks and Cooper Cup

697
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: and the things that they do out in the passing game.

698
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: When you were in Ta's rule around this team, what

699
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: were your impressions of kind of the Sean McVay playbook

700
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: and the way McVay was teaching. I loved it. You know.

701
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: I interviewed coach earlier today and I talked to him

702
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: about communication, good battering, different. He wants communication, and I

703
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: think the guys like that. I think they respect that

704
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: they know exactly where they are in the offense or

705
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: on the defense or special teams, and they know exactly

706
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: what they want from that particular position. And that all

707
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: has to do with communication. And that's what I saw

708
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: first and foremost with coach McVay, how he how he

709
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: attacked the room, how energetic he was, how vocal he was,

710
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: how clear he was in his message and guys were

711
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: taking notes. When I saw that, I said, Okay, this

712
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: is a football team that's going in the right direction

713
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: when everybody is paying attention, almost like with Freendance, how

714
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: we saw all go to Freendance. My good man, Sir

715
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: Sean McVay possesses that kind of energy and it's contagious

716
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: and the guys, I respond, well, not to name names

717
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: because we're not gonna do that, but I saw the

718
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: opposite too, to where you wish this coach would just

719
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: stop talking because he's doing the opposite. He's supposed to

720
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: be motivating and he's doing the opposite. You know what

721
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Yes, talking about yes, yes, yes, So I

722
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: just you know, just from a game preparation standpoint, I

723
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: guess to people that don't know, it seems like it's

724
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: magic what Sean mcvah is doing. Well, can you pinpoint

725
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: the one thing that he's doing differently from other coordinators

726
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: you've had. I mean, I just think I think the

727
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: details in the assignments, um, the details and the play calling, UM.

728
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: How how they self evaluate themselves and break down each

729
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: particular group. Like like when you saw you were like, wow,

730
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: this is cool. This is new. I was like, this

731
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: is this is this is I was like, this is

732
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: really cool. But more importantly, how he's communicating it to

733
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: the guys. He can speak to millennials and then he

734
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: can speak to way Phillips. Yes, that's pretty for a

735
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: young coach thrown into this mix of a football team

736
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: that was that was bad on offense, had a good defense,

737
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: had a good special teams, and for him to be

738
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: able to get things turned around within a year, be

739
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: able to balance it. Um, I just I just was

740
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: just really impressed with that, and I knew again, I

741
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: knew right away this team was going to do something

742
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: special because of the direction and the leadership of coach McBay.

743
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: I think you just forget how young he is. I

744
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: mean talking about what you're saying, Like he can talk

745
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: to Wade Phillips, he can talk to the guys who

746
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: are millennials. It's easy, really to forget that he is

747
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: only thirty two years old and he don't forget anything. Yeah,

748
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't forget anything. And boy he's younger, doesn't have

749
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: any kids, right, I don't have anything else. Just see

750
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: the Brant gumbles. I haven't seen that, yeah, but I

751
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: heard about it. All, and so Brian Gumble was kind

752
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: of marveling over the fact that mcvayh could remember like

753
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: what I found to be kind of marquee plays. But

754
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: I remember talking last year to your former offensive coordinator

755
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, and he told me that one day they

756
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: were in a meeting and all of a sudden, McVeigh

757
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, bring up this thing from Pittsburgh in

758
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: Denver two years ago. It was fourth down or whatever,

759
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: third and whatever from this part of the field, and

760
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: da da da dada, and la Fleur is like, how

761
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: the world do you remember that? That's not even a

762
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: game that you're involved in. That to me is the

763
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: more impressive aspect. And you know who. And Mike marsh

764
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: was the same way. Yeah, like we would be in

765
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: we would be in week say we was in week thirteen.

766
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: He'll call a play from week one of the previous

767
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: season and expect for you to know it because he

768
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: was going to get Wow, he knew the covers that

769
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: he was going to get, so he knew exactly exact

770
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: play to call, and more importantly, he expected you as

771
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: a player to know it and if you didn't, you

772
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: got your ass shoot out. So he always cam your

773
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: toes and it sounds like that's what coach is doing.

774
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: He's keeping these guys on their toes. He's keeping them fresh,

775
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: but he's giving them information that they can use to

776
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: be successful on the field. Anybody else standing out to

777
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: you defensively, offensively? Yeah, I'm looking forward to I want

778
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: to see the tailback. Um I got, I got my

779
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: rod support up here. I'm glad John Kelly, John Kelly

780
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: who I really like. I like. I like his balance

781
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: and if you look at how you look at his

782
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: running style and look at Alvin Kamoor's running style, there

783
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: are some similarities. I'm not saying it is Alvin Kamara. Yeah,

784
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: but there are some similarities and John Kelly and Alvin

785
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: Kamore be interesting to see how he catches the ball

786
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. And he's really good in screens.

787
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: John Kelly, that is so I think he'll be able

788
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: to get Tar Gurley a little break and still be productive.

789
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: Um justin Lawler on defense. Someone that I'm that I'm

790
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: taking a look at number sixty two. I think he's

791
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: a good player. Treyvarn Young from Louisville watched him when

792
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: he was in the Acca at Louisville, so looking forward

793
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: to seeing how he does. And then the linebacker position

794
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: as a whole. I want to see how they come

795
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: along and then who steps up to replace Augantry and

796
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: then rush in specialists who can get after the quarterback

797
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: Blues Quinn, I'm cooking, get after the QB. Glad you

798
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: brought that up. I mean, when you look at the

799
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: linebackers as a whole and then compare that league wide

800
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: outside of Baron, not a lot with Scary. So there's

801
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: a lot of room for them to improve. Absolutely not

802
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: saying they couldn't be the guy, but as of right now,

803
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: they don't know outside linebacker is the same thing. I

804
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: don't know a left tackle or a right tackle. That's saying, wow,

805
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: I have to really worry about stop stopping Samson epcom

806
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: just yet. But that could come so strict adherents to

807
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips's scheme and then being coached out of your

808
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: mind to be in the right spot when you need to.

809
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: And then when you become a player and you know

810
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: when it happens, when the light comes on, when you

811
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: become a football player who knows week week nine, then

812
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: we might start to see how special these guys can be.

813
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: And I talked to Lead too this morning, and he

814
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: was talking about how he and Marcus Peters all right,

815
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: you know how tight they and you don't see him

816
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: all away from each other, And to Lead talks about

817
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: how he's providing the information to Marcus. It's about Wade

818
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: system and how he expect he expects his corners to play,

819
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: how he expects his safety to play. And I think

820
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: that's really good. I think that's a great I think

821
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: that showed a great deal of leadership up to leave,

822
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: because these two guys, in my opinion, get a bad repper,

823
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: being bad guys, troublemakers. Yes, to me, I don't think

824
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: that's the case. They don't take no shit, but they're dogs,

825
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: and I want dogs on my team, particularly in the

826
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: in the secondary because in the past, happy league, how

827
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: it is now you gotta forget quickly, but you gotta

828
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: be a dog to step back up there to compete.

829
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: Good corner, bad corner, great corner. What's the difference from

830
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: what you've seen when you've lined up bad corners, terrible technique,

831
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: scary in their shoes, don't know that's that's a bad corner? Yeah,

832
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: good corner sound, can read, can read routes, can read

833
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: splits um just solid, dependable, great corners do it all,

834
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: can tackle, can cover, can play zone, can can interceptable

835
00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: and not only can they intercept it. These two guys tomorrow.

836
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: Do you remember when we played the week the Greatest Show.

837
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: Obviously got a lot of attention, but our defense was

838
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: top ten touchdown then we turned the ball over, but

839
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: we scored on defense, which allowed us offensively to get

840
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: a break. Yes, okay, they're get a break, but still

841
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: have the trust in our defense that they can come

842
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: up with big place too. And I think that's going

843
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: to be the difference with this school. You're gonna see,

844
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna see interceptions, but you're gonna be You're gonna

845
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 1: see interceptions taken to the house. I'm trying to remember

846
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: and it's rocking my brain. I'm going all the way

847
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: back to the eighties best cornerback tandems one and two

848
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: James Hasty Dale card Okay, yeah, Cleveland had to that's

849
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: the guys. I went back to anybody else where they started. Yeah,

850
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: recent memory member to you where this guy over here

851
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: is hot. This guy over here is hot too. Yeah,

852
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: nothing comes right, nothing, okay, yeah, nothing comes to mind

853
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: right the way this could be, but this could be

854
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: this this Yeah. Denver in twenty fifty had an argument there, Yes,

855
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: who was that? Yeah? But other than that, no, I

856
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: would agree with Oh I'm sorry one more Tremaine Johnson

857
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: and Jack Rabbit. You just kind of didn't notice it

858
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: because the way the offense play right, so that they

859
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: were always always yeah for sure. Um, what are you

860
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: up to now? In North Carolina? Man? What am I

861
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: up to now? My brother and I business partners. We

862
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: have a construction company, so we're in the commercial construction UM,

863
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: and we're really excited about that building building the infrastructure

864
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: there in North Carolina where I'm from. UM, to me,

865
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: is no greater feeling growing up there playing ball there.

866
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: Now transition into the business world and making it still

867
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: making an impact within our community. I'm so thankful for that.

868
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: I coach high school football and my son's a senior

869
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: this year, so this is his last year, my last

870
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: year or two with high school ball. But I'm having

871
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: a great time with that, really helping these young kids

872
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: learn how to play the game. UM coach of wide receivers.

873
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: So the receiver position is still being carried on at

874
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: a high level, even on the high school rank. So

875
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about that. We have our foundation which

876
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: supports young kids with a parent that's battling cancer that

877
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm still involved with, and I'm also doing serious working

878
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: with Serious XM NFL Radio and Fantasy Channel. So on

879
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: Thursdays you can catch me from eight to ten am

880
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: Eastern Standard time out here in the West Coast, you

881
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: guys would probably be sleep. Yeah, And then and then

882
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: on Fridays. On Fridays, I'm on from seven to eleven

883
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: myself and Bob Papa. That's Eastern Standard time as well.

884
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: So I got my hands on a little bit of everything. Yeah,

885
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: but this is what I like. Well, this is my

886
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: first love. Pretend we're all serious right now, just for

887
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: a hot minner. And where do you think of this

888
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald situation? Where do you think of this whole

889
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: business thing getting in the way of football and you

890
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: know how it goes? Yeah, I think Aaron Donald deserves

891
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: to be paid handsomely. Now are they going to pay

892
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: him even the number that he's asking for? Maybe not,

893
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: because there's so many other guys that they have to

894
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: pay and they want to stay in they want to

895
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: stay in Super Bowl contention, but he does deserve to

896
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: be paid. He I've been saying it since he was

897
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: drafted to us. He's the best defensive tackle in the game, period, period, tory.

898
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: He's the best done. Yeah, and he has a tremendous

899
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: work ethic. They have to work. They have to run

900
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: him out of here sometimes. And what I'm going out

901
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: to understand because he puts in so much work and

902
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't think if you do pay him, if you

903
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 1: do make him the highest paid defensive player, I don't

904
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: think anything changes. I don't think nothing changes with to me,

905
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: is gives me even more reason why I want to

906
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: sign him, because I want to say to my team,

907
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: this is a guy redrafted, He's played his ass off,

908
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: He's done everything he asked him to do. He's Defensive

909
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: Player of the Year, and we rewarded him. This is

910
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: what can happen to you if you do things the

911
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: right way. And it since a strong message to the guys.

912
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: I hear that if we do things the right way,

913
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: we can remain a RAM or remain a RAM forever.

914
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: And I want Aaron Donald to be a RAM for everyone.

915
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: I think about deepon Jones and Marilyn Olson and all

916
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: of them. Great yourself. He's in there, he is in there.

917
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: He may be the first one you talk about to

918
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: be a Ram forever. Certainly on that track right now.

919
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: And I think everybody wants that to be the case,

920
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: that Aaron is a Ram forever. That's a tough road

921
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: to get in. Then it is and and and and

922
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: and and credit lesson those guys and how they're balanced

923
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: in the books, because you have to balance the books.

924
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: But got to give him a strong consideration, a little

925
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: a little little more there, he says. It's the first

926
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: negotiation where both sides are saying goodbye when they're in

927
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: the conversation. No one's hanging up the phone, right. It's

928
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: just it's a tough situation. And we're talking about this earlier.

929
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that makes you say that, Okay,

930
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: this is contentious. You haven't heard any leaks on either

931
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: side about the way these things are going. And Lesson

932
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: Sean McVay have always said, we want to keep this

933
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: in house. We're good with it. You know, we respect Aaron,

934
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: we respect this process. And then Aaron is a guy too,

935
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: that's he's he he's a super So he's a low

936
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: key guy, so you won't hear his business out like

937
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: that in the street. Yes, but I think I think

938
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: once they get it done, obviously he'll get in here,

939
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: he'll be ready, he'll be in shape. But Aaron Donald,

940
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: uh Brockers, who looks incredible, dun and Sue and Sue.

941
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: So these guys can get one on one opportunities, and

942
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: it's it's it's gonna be a tough outfit to deal

943
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: with for sixteen seventeen plus weeks, all right. I mean

944
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: you look at offenses, you only have five offensive lineman.

945
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to max protect with two tight ends

946
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: at something. Where do you throw it with those corners? Exactly? Man?

947
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: And you better be accurate with that safety, right, you

948
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Look, I'm really liking John Johnson

949
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: and bc acc by the way he's playing. He I

950
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: think this year you'll see a tremendous jump in in

951
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: his play this year. I think he's he's more, he's

952
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: more comfortable, he has a feel for the NFL speed

953
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: of the game. And then now you're going to see

954
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: his natural ability really take over. Get up. Then you're

955
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: a guess you hate the SEC. I don't hate you.

956
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: I don't hate I just think is better. I'm a

957
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: loyal guy. I love State, I love the nc NFC West,

958
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: I love the Rams. I feel you. That is why

959
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: we love. I could hear no question, that is exactly.

960
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: I don't have the question who I ride with? A

961
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: ride with the Rams. All right, Well to thank you

962
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: a little game ms Nation, Well that was awesome. Wow, special. Um,

963
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: he works just as hard off the fields as he

964
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: did on it. Yeah, he's tremendous. Yeah. I always just

965
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: would hire him on my staff and a heart beau,

966
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: that's just me. Well, I like getting the insight from

967
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: both of you guys at the same time, you know,

968
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: because you guys playing I didn't, And to me, that

969
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: just makes this kind of thing special. Well, defensively, when

970
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: we were practicing against each other, um, I was only

971
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: used to one cornerback coming back to the whole crying.

972
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: That's the one that was on Isaac Bruce. Now I

973
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: got both, Yeah, because we had Tory who was also

974
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: streaking down the field. Yes, all right, give me a

975
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: couple of things that you're looking forward to seeing this

976
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: week from these Rams and Press. Well, you know Tory

977
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: brought it up with the young defensive lineman, the defensive ends,

978
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: defensive tackles. The interior guys. Sometimes in training camp guys

979
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: tend to look better than they are because it's practice.

980
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: You can't really fully simulate the all x best aspects

981
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: of the of the division of the opposition, thank you,

982
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: because you're not being cut. Everything is staying up, So

983
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how these guys react to cut blocks,

984
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: extended drives, all this sort of stuff. So I have

985
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: to wait for the games to really evaluate the young

986
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: interior guys. But the offensive lineman you can get a

987
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: good field for now. I love the way Noteboom is playing.

988
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: I love the way that look. He needs to get

989
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: as many reps in as he can before September because

990
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: and this is where I wish it was back in

991
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: the day, because instead of the fifty some odd reps

992
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: he's getting on a one to day schedule. Well, you

993
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: can get one hundred, yeah, you can get five hundred

994
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: reps before your first regular season game or preseason game.

995
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: Your development is much faster that way. But from what

996
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: I see, he's great, He's going to be special. I'm

997
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: glad you brought him up because what's interesting right now

998
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: is that they're cross training him at left tackle and

999
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: at right guard, in part because of the Jamon Brown

1000
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: situation where he's going to be suspended for those first

1001
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: two games. Right now, I think if the Rams had

1002
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: to play a game, they would go with Austin blythe

1003
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: in at right guard and that's smart. Yeah, he's got experienced, absolutely,

1004
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: but there is a possibility that if note Boom comes

1005
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: along really well, that he could be playing at that

1006
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 1: rug guard spot for the first time. Download as many

1007
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: reps as possible, get him used to that environment, being

1008
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: in the box, because it doesn't matter at some point

1009
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: where you put him. As long as he's guys reps,

1010
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: he can be available to you to you. So it

1011
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: seems like maybe he can be groomed to be your

1012
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: swing guy. Yeah, yeah, so that's what I see out

1013
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: of him. Excellent all right, So I think with that

1014
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: we will wrap up this episode of Between the Horns

1015
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: all aspects. Alle Dehydra, I hope you all enjoyed all

1016
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: aspects of the show today, especially our little time with Tor.

1017
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: That was awesome. Always great to have him here. Make

1018
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: sure you check him out on Sirius XM Radio with

1019
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: both his shows on Thursday morning and on Friday evening,

1020
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: So for DeMarco far on miles sevens that's between the horns.

1021
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.