WEBVTT - Good Moms | Stacey's Story 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.720 She was embarrassed. It's her home. She's the wife, the mother. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:11.200 She had no knowledge of that device being there. But realistically, 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:12.920 the first time we were in the home, we didn't 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.680 know who placed it there. I mean, Justin was acting 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.239 like a suspect by not talking to us in the 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:24.440 way he was acting. 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:39.400 I'm Andrea Gunning and this is betrayal. Season three, Episode two, 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:45.640 Good Moms. A listener note. Some names have been changed 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:51.760 to protect privacy. Stacy Rutherford had met her soulmate, doctor 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.440 Justin Rutherford, in twenty fifteen. They had been together for 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.520 five years. Mikaela, Stacy's eldest, was off to college, and 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:00.960 Tyler started high school. 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:02.520 They were all. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:06.560 Enjoying the two youngest additions to the family. Stacy's two 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.240 older kids loved having young siblings. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:11.160 They called them the littles. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:12.880 Here's Tyler. 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.959 My little siblings would always call me Bubby. It's fun. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:19.000 It's good. 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.600 Like on days when you're feeling sad. They don't know 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.000 what's going on, but just a hug from them makes 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:25.040 you feel so much better. 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.240 Justin was providing for his family and involved with all 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.920 four kids. He took Tyler to hockey practice. He helped 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.080 michaeleb pay for school at penn State, and he was 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:36.760 the dad who got on the floor. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:37.119 With the kids. 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:43.080 Stacy showed me some videos of Justin and the littles. Yeah, 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.680 it's hard not to smile when you hear the kids 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:58.680 squealing with delight. Tyler's friends enjoyed having Justin around, especially 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.640 when it came to gaming. He was always down for 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.000 a game of Call of Duty. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.600 FID friends over and we needed another person to fill 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:08.680 up the game, they'd have him come in. I mean 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:10.760 that was like his outside of work passion. 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.880 Stacy felt fulfilled as a doctor's wife and mother of 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.880 four in Pennsylvania. But like any couple, Stacy and Justin 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.840 had their issues. Physical intimacy was one of the areas 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.280 where they were not on the same page. Even while dating, 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.560 Stacy found Justin's lack of libido concerning. 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.679 We never had a normal sex life. The only time 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.480 he ever seemed to really want to have sex was 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.959 when we were trying to get pregnant. He always had 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:45.280 problems performing. He just always explained it that, oh Med 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:49.120 school is very hard, you know, I'm stressed a lot, 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.320 and then it would turn into well, you know, I've 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.920 never been a very sexual person, and I remember, you know, 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.120 having conversations with like my girlfriends like is it me? 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.600 Is it my weight? And I ended up talking to 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:02.840 one of the doctors I worked with and I was like, 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.600 I need to ask you a question like is it 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.960 common from residents to have to use viagra or just 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.000 not have a sex drive? And they were like, oh, yeah, 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.920 that's very common. So then I felt like a horrible person, like, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.239 you know, he's just really stressed out, and here I 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.800 am making a big deal of it. And so I 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.320 was willing to sacrifice that part of our relationship to 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:22.800 have all of the good that we had. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:27.040 And some of the good Justin offered was his intrinsic 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:28.320 approach with children. 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.960 He was a natural. He spoke their language. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:36.920 All of the kids that we ever have been around, niece's, nephew's, residents, kids, 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.760 everybody gravitated towards him because he was like a big kid. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:42.920 For me, it warmed my heart because I was like, oh, 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:44.920 I want a man that's good with kids. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.600 But sometimes Justin took it too far and Stacy had 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.600 to remind him that he was the father in the family. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.880 Like one time, you know, all the boys over at 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.920 our house day the night, swam in the pool, and 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.520 they all went and got plato, including my husband, and 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:04.240 made plato penises. Of course, for teenage boys, you know 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.640 you're gonna be like, ah, that's you know, they were laughing, 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.600 I'm sure, But for an adult ticket on that, I 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.360 was like, justin, you're thirty some years old. It was 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.159 like there was never this understanding that he was the parent. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:17.200 They were the kids. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.800 But Stacy was never seeking perfection. 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.200 I always looked at it as that's justin. He was 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:27.719 an only child. He's immature, you know. My sister always 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.839 used to call on Peter pant he just wanted to 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:31.720 be a boy forever. 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.200 The Rutherford House was a hub for guests, full parties 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:41.000 and friends. There were sleepovers too, and with kids going 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.440 over to swim, a lot of them changed and showered 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.279 at the house. It was a completely normal happening. But 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.440 one afternoon Tyler had a couple of friends over who 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:51.400 left in a hurry. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.760 I had my friends over and we were kind of 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.280 just having a pool day. Everything was going fine. We 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.520 even planned to later on go to like a trampoline 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:04.200 park of so sort. They had gone upstairs to change 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.120 out of their swim trunks into their normal clothes, and 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:11.560 then out of nowhere. They had said their aunt texted 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:16.839 them or uncle someone around those lines, and they needed 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.480 to leave. Didn't really give much information as to why, 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.880 but they made it seem as if it was something 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:27.159 very urgent, and within twenty minutes they were out the 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.880 door and they were gone. I found it odd, but 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.120 I just kind of assumed it was some family emergency, 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.640 someone had gotten hurt something like that. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.680 Tyler didn't really know what happened, but didn't dwell on 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:44.960 it either. Later on that night, another strange incident occurred. 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.960 They had an unexpected visit from Social Services. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.719 There was a tip to DCFS that he had asked 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.919 two of Tyler's friends to do inappropriate things in the 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:55.680 shower together. 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:02.080 DCFS is the Division of Children and Family Services. It's 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:06.400 a government agency that investigates the mistreatment and abuse of children. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.960 And I'm like, that's not true. I was here all day, like, 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:13.040 he never was alone with anybody, And they said, okay, 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:17.880 well we're investigating this, and because Tyler is not Justin's 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.720 biological child, he has to leave the house. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.960 Stacey had no idea what they were talking about but 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:30.520 it didn't matter. It was upsetting. Imagine Social Services knocking 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.560 on your door telling you that your husband is suspected 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:38.880 of inappropriate, possibly criminal behavior. The Division of Children and 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:42.880 Family Services was investigating. Tyler would stay just down the 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.279 street with a close friend until it was over. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.719 That social worker came back to the house and said, 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.320 we've interviewed Tyler. He loves his stepdad, he's happy here, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.919 he seems safe. We think he's fine to come home. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.560 You know, she said, sometimes in situations like this, where 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.400 there is a doctor and there's money involved, it could 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.360 have been somebody who thought, you know, oh, let's you know, 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.440 make up something and see if they'll pay us off. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.680 Justin agreed, telling Stacy it had to be a money grab. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.440 So Stacy was relieved when Social Services told them they 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:19.600 were dropping the case. 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.480 We were just like ecstatic, like, oh my gosh, our 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:24.720 lives can go back to normal. 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.920 And for a little while they resumed their everyday routine. 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:35.080 But then Stacy saw something that made her realize they 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:36.560 couldn't go back to normal. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.400 I'm downstairs with the little ones and Justin had been 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.920 gone for a little while, and I'm like, where is 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:47.760 he at? I go upstairs to our bedroom. And when 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:49.920 I tell you that it was like a movie, I 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.760 mean it was like a movie. He was encrypting his computer, 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.320 like the stuff coming down the screen. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.440 I imagine it looked like this from the Matrix when 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.160 it starts raining down code. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:08.800 And I stood there and he turned around and he said, oh, great, great, 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.640 And I said what are you doing? And he said, listen, 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.080 you know, if we've got somebody coming after us and 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.920 this and that, I'm encrypting my computer. Stacy and I 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:18.960 know what you think. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:19.320 You know. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.120 We kept saying I know what you think, and I'm like, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.640 you're damn right, I know what I think. From that 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.960 moment on, I knew something was wrong. 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:34.040 Stacy felt something in her gut, and it changed the 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.000 way she viewed her husband from. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:36.360 That day on. 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:42.200 We had family time every night before bet you know 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.280 we still had those after all that. But it wasn't 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:50.200 the normal happy family night. It was mom sits on 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:55.680 the couch on her phone, ignores everyone and everything, and 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.960 Justin tries to play it cool and act normal. But 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.920 you can still tell something's not right. She wouldn't sit 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:07.800 next to him, she wouldn't touch him. Kisses reforced nothing 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:08.920 was like the usual. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.520 Stacy performed the role of wife and mother, acting out 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.400 the parts well enough to keep her household from collapsing, 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.880 but in her head, she was preparing for the worst 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:20.959 case scenarios. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:26.480 With my first divorce, I felt helpless because I wasn't working. 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.000 I had just quit my job and he was letting 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.040 me open up a home daycare, and within weeks of that, 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:33.040 everything imploded. 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.079 So she made sure she could always work and make 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.160 a living. It's the reason she kept her certified Nursing 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:40.800 assistant credentials up to date. 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.640 So I think with Justin, I just was like, m 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.920 I'm good, Like, I'll stay working. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.560 As much as she loved Justin and her life in Pennsylvania, 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:55.160 she was not naive she wouldn't make the same mistake again. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.720 I want to say it was like a divine thing, 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.079 but I always just had this feeling at any moment, 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.040 the bottom could fall out, Stacy, and you need to 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:07.600 be prepared. 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.840 And sure enough, a few weeks later, the other shoe 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.000 finally dropped when she was met by a detective at 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:15.679 her front door. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.840 I get home and I pull in and there's all 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:24.840 these vans and SUVs just flood my driveway and I 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.560 walk up to the house and an armed officer of 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.480 like you know, Mam, calm down, come downstairs with me 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.800 and laid out on our couch was a device torn apart, 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:40.640 and then photos of my kids all naked in the shower. 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:54.079 Stacy had suspicions about her husband, but was not expecting 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.440 a police raid. Now she was standing in her home 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.839 watching a scene right out of the crime shows she. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:02.120 Watched on television. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.760 Sergeant Mike Fick, a detective with the Burkes County District 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:08.880 Attorney's Office. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:13.400 Amity Township Police Department received information that juveniles in a 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:17.600 home of Justin Rutherford saw something in a bathroom that 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:18.760 they didn't know what it was. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:19.720 One of the. 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.960 Juveniles took a picture of it and sent it to 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.480 his mother. The mother researched it and found that it 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:30.880 was a camera. Juveniles removed it with the SIM card and. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.839 Took it home. The Rutherford family lived in Amity Township. 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:39.400 Sergeant Vic explained how it got to the county. 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:44.120 Amity asked us if we would take the case because 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.800 we have more knowledge and experience in this field. The 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:51.280 good news is the evidence was secured. We wanted to 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.720 have our forensic Services unit withdraw the information on the 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.280 SIM card and see exactly what was recorded on that device. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:03.079 The police had investigating the secret camera since Social Services 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:07.640 first came into their home three weeks prior. Investigators found 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:11.120 images of several children and a handful of adults using 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:12.520 the bathroom and showering. 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.000 A lot of the boys will go in and of 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.600 course when they stand to yearinate, he would capture that 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:23.440 his step daughter. I believe our boyfriend those people were captured, 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.160 but realistically we didn't know who placed it there. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.640 It was concerning enough to warrant further investigation. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.800 We executed a search warrant at the house and at 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.960 that time we were in there to take every electronic device. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.120 Rutherford was there. When we went to take his cell phone, 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:44.520 he actually tried to delete something from it quick. We 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:49.520 had to secure him and take the phone from him. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:51.520 He didn't want to talk to us. He said he's 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.280 got have a lawyer, so of course we couldn't question 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.920 him any further. I mean, Justin was acting like a suspect. 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:04.079 OK, So there was a camera in the bathroom. Justin 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:05.920 was being uncooperative. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.480 One picture was Justin's hand and they asked me if 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.320 I could identify his wedding ring, and I said, yes, 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.840 that's his wedding ring. And they told me, well, we're 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.680 here because we have reason to believe that he placed 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.160 a camera in this bathroom to record your son and 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:21.400 his friend's undressed. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.520 And just then Tyler came home from work. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.520 I was working landscaping at the time and walking down 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.440 to the house and I noticed there's all sorts of 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.440 cars and I'm thinking, I'm about to walk into one 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.520 of our family parties. It's about to be a fun night. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.520 I opened the door and there's like six police standing 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:45.440 there in front of me. I was all covered in 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.240 grass clippings and MUDs. I was stinky, I was dirty. 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.600 I was ready to go take a shower, and I 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.000 asked him, I kind of see what's going on. Can 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:56.960 I just go take a shower? And then he was 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:02.480 like no. So they had sent me downstairs, and they'd 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.800 broke the news that there was cameras in the house 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:10.120 and that most of the allegations are most likely true. 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:14.960 While Stacey felt something was off, she wasn't expecting the 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.640 police to show up with the search warrant, and she 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:21.080 certainly wasn't expecting what they were showing her. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.920 I remember crying and just I kept saying, oh my God, Like, 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.920 what kind of mother doesn't know this? One of the 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.280 police officers grabbed a holding and just held me while 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:34.600 I cried. He kept saying, good moms, good moms, Stacy. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.480 He said, the whole time we investigated you, we were 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:41.320 in every area of your life, your emails, your facebooks, 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.880 your everything. The whole time, he said. The one thing 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.760 we kept saying over and over was this woman has 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:49.720 no idea what's about to happen in her life. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.600 Tyler was trying to process the whole scene, his mother 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.880 crying downstairs, his stepfather's stonewall upstairs. 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.080 I finally got to go take my shower as they 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:10.040 were getting ready to leave. I'm usually a five minute, 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.480 ten minute shower kind of guy. I get my job done, 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:16.760 i leave, but that shower was different. I just stood 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.400 in there and pretty much cried the whole time. Head 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:23.320 against the wall, eyes closed, water falling down my head. 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.200 Tyler knew what was at stake, and he knew they 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.720 would not be staying in this house or in this life. 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.680 We had everything we ever dreamed of growing up. We 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.480 had an in ground pool and to me, that was 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.440 the craziest thing. Like I thought billionaires had in ground pools. 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.560 It had a slide, like I thought. We had a 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:48.240 water park in the backyard. And he took us on 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.240 our first cruise, and I mean I had a nice 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:55.440 like fifteen hundred dollars gaming PC, pretty much anything a 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:56.680 kid could want. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.480 After the raid happened, they told me Social Service, we'll 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:01.200 be contacting you. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.840 Detectives took the family's electronic devices and left. This was 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.800 a mission to find and collect evidence, not to arrest Justin. 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.240 At that point, he was standing in the kitchen and 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.160 he started to talk to me and I said, just 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.800 shut the fuck up. I don't want to hear another 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:21.560 word out of your mouth. I need you to get 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.120 your shit and I need you to get out of 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.640 my house. And he was like, you're going to ruin 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.880 our marriage over this. Are you serious, Stacy? I said, no, 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.320 you ruined our marriage. I said, they showed me everything 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.400 down there. Justin He was like, I didn't do this, 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:35.560 you know, that's all lies. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:40.280 Justin was maintaining his innocence. He started naming all of 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.080 the kids who might have been the culprit, but the 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:47.000 detective had wisely shown Stacey the photo of Justin's hand, 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.120 presumably testing the camera, and. 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.520 I was like, m you gotta go. I said, it's 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.360 either you or me and these kids, so you need 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:56.560 to make it. And he's like, well, I'm not going 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.000 to make you and the kids leave the house tonight. 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.320 So that he ended up going and staying with one 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.560 of his co residents and just told her that we 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.639 were going through a divorce and that he just needed 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:06.399 a place to crash. 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.160 Stacy and the kids needed family and friends who were 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:15.200 like family, but those folks were back home in Virginia. 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.320 Once this story about Justin got back to his employer, 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.600 this house, they loved, this job he had worked so 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:23.280 hard for. 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:25.560 It would all be over. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:28.840 The day after the raid, we were putting the house 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:33.920 of her sale. His mentality was, I'll finish out my 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.359 contract here, you know, and then we'll slowly work on, 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.239 like rebuilding our relationship. I mean, at the time, I 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:43.000 was trying to play the part like oh yeah, maybe, 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.320 but I was just like, oh yeah, Bunny, that's not happening. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.520 Justin was adamant that he was innocent, but Stacy no 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:55.080 longer cared. She just wanted to keep her kids safe. 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.480 I called my sister and I said, this is what's 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:02.480 going down. I think it's going to be bad. She 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.280 was like, oh my god, you got to get the 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.199 babies out of that house. And I said, I told 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.600 him he had to leave, but I'm moving home, and 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.960 she was like, shit, Stacy. School starts next week. 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.320 Heathern was concerned about Tyler. He was in high school 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:19.119 and this move would mean a new school for him. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:20.600 That was hard enough. 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:22.520 She was like, we got to get him here to 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.480 get him enrolled in school. He can't get behind me. 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:26.960 I tell my husband what's going on, and my husband 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:28.600 says to me, we're going to get silent her. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.760 And my husband is one of those people that not 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:32.879 a lot of people will argue with. 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.200 He's not taking over an answer. Tyler loved his ant 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.959 Heather and knew on the day of the raid that 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:42.040 his life was going to change, but he never could 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.720 have predicted it would happen so fast. 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.520 I'd gotten a text from my mom, Hey, when you 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.399 get home tonight, we're gonna pack up all your stuff. 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:55.280 You're going to live with your aunt. Heather like, Bam, 0:18:55.520 --> 0:19:00.879 it's really getting real. Woke up that next morning, my 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.480 friend had come over because I'd told him I was leaving. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.119 This was the same friend I'd stayed at after Social 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.080 Services came, so he kind of knew what was going on. 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.800 We hugged, which was not like us. You know, teenage 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.640 boys don't really do that, and like he actually shed 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.240 some tears. I did too. It was kind of like 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:24.720 heartfelt but sad at the same time. He was my 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.160 best friend. I didn't have much to leave him, but 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.600 I was like, take this xbox, It'll be like a 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.240 good remember me bye. And then I was off to 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.399 my aunts to live for the next year and a 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:38.000 half or so. 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:52.480 We've all seen those stories when a person with men 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:56.800 suddenly falls and is about to lose everything. Many times 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:01.000 they don't just bow out, They take people with them. 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:09.800 Usually it's those closest. Justin had lost his family, had 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.919 not seen his biological children, and it was just a 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.200 matter of time before he lose his ability to practice medicine. 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:21.400 What then, Stacy's mind went to worst case scenarios. 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:23.919 I slept with a loaded gun next to me for 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:27.359 a long time. I Mean, my thought was his life 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.840 is falling apart. He's going to take us all down 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:33.520 with him. 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:37.320 As heartbreaking as it was, Stacy moved quickly and put 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.840 the house on the market. I don't know if you 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.160 remember the housing market in twenty twenty one. 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.359 I do. It didn't take long. 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.960 For prospective buyers to start looking at Stacy's home. 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:53.679 We were there at the house and they said the 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.639 new tenants were going to come for a walkthrough. I 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:59.520 think they got there early, so they came in and 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.160 I was just they just kind of opened the door, 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:05.840 walked in and I was like, oh, I'm sorry, and 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:07.760 I just remember looking at him and I said, you know, 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:11.040 you're getting a really good house. It's a really good neighbor. 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:13.800 I said, You're just you're really gonna love it here. 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:15.680 I saw, I love my time here. 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:20.159 Her loss was there again, even in that moment, she 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:25.160 showed grace. She loved that house, she loved the life 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:29.280 she thought she was living. Mikayla had been living away 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:32.399 at college. Stacey knew that it would only be a 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:36.679 matter of time before she'd hear what happened. Stacey wanted 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:38.760 to be the one to tell her, but she didn't 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:40.960 want to break this type of news over the phone, 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:45.040 so she invited Mikaela and her boyfriend Tommy for the weekend. 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:50.639 When Michaela arrived at the house, she noticed something was 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:51.679 off right away. 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.760 Get there, and it's just oddly quiet in this house. 0:21:55.680 --> 0:22:00.000 That's when her much younger sister spilled the beans. 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:03.119 She looks me dead in the face and says, Daddy 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:06.840 doesn't live here anymore and Bubby's living with Aunt Heather. 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:13.960 And I was like what, And Mom, who hasn't said anything, 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.760 explained everything. You know that they raided the house. They 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:18.960 took all electronics. 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:22.720 Mikhayla thought there had to be some kind of mistake. 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.240 She just couldn't wrap her head around it, not. 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:31.880 Justin immediately, I was kind of like, are we sure? 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.760 You know people put nanny cams all the time? Was 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:38.040 it an accident? Was it supposed to be like downstairs 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.439