WEBVTT - Ep. 122: David Crockett - The Alamo (Part 4)

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<v Speaker 1>They're wearing themselves out trying to receive reinforcements, receive supplies,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can't.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't.

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<v Speaker 1>On February twenty third, Santa Anna and the Mexican Army arrive.

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<v Speaker 3>The final episodes of these series are always somber for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we all know what's about to happen to

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<v Speaker 3>our boy, David Crockett. I'm interested in the best information

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<v Speaker 3>that we have about the Alamo, not the narrative we've

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<v Speaker 3>heard from the likes of John Wayne and Walt Disney,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe their narratives were right. Sometimes nationalistic narratives have

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<v Speaker 3>to be sorted through, because I'm mainly interested in not that,

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<v Speaker 3>but the inner workings and character and fabric of the

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<v Speaker 3>man David Crockett. I'm also interested in why people from

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<v Speaker 3>Texas are so crazed about the Alamo and passionate about

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<v Speaker 3>how Crockett died. Learned that it was far more important

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<v Speaker 3>in US history than you might think. Holly's Comet soared

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<v Speaker 3>over North America in eighteen thirty five and thirty six

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<v Speaker 3>and was blamed for some of the time's ill fate.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew Jackson sarcastically commissioned Crockett to catch it by the

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<v Speaker 3>tail before it hit the United States, destroying the country.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't catch it, but he did help change the

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<v Speaker 3>course of this nation by his death. And we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>learn did Crockett die fighting or was he executed? And

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<v Speaker 3>why do we care? I really doubt that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>want to miss this one.

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<v Speaker 4>Most people who think they know history don't know how

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<v Speaker 4>they know what they think they know.

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<v Speaker 3>places we explore. Over twenty buckskin clad horsemen are riding

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<v Speaker 3>through the dry plains of Texas. One sure looks a

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<v Speaker 3>lot like John Wayne, and he's wearing a coonskin hat.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's Davy Crockett.

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<v Speaker 5>Well that you big down after twenty days a hard riding,

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna have to learn the lingo they use down here, Davy.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't we go davy to the town or to

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<v Speaker 2>the part part.

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<v Speaker 5>It's an all make you better take a better look.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people moving in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Them guns don't give it no mistion. Look to me, Arnel,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you see? A n ti and a spell cantina?

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<v Speaker 3>Do it mean what I think you do it?

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<v Speaker 5>Dude, it means all of these DearS gets it into

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<v Speaker 5>our boobie.

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<v Speaker 3>This was near the opening scene of John Wayne's nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>sixty movie titled The Alamo. It's rife with historical inaccuracies,

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<v Speaker 3>but this scene depicting these guys entering into San Antonio

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<v Speaker 3>as more relaxed than they should have been, is probably accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>On February eighth, eighteen thirty six, the real David Crockett,

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<v Speaker 3>our gentlemen from the Cane, America's first celebrity, voluntarily rode

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<v Speaker 3>into a Mexican war zone. His one month in San

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<v Speaker 3>Antonio would be the most scrutinized, studied, and mythologized portions

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<v Speaker 3>of his storied life, because on the morning of March sixth,

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen thirty six, he and one hundred and eighty eight

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<v Speaker 3>other men would die at the hands of the Mexican army,

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<v Speaker 3>making this one of the most infamous days in Texas

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<v Speaker 3>and American history. The mystery of this day, because of

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<v Speaker 3>the lack of survivors, would set many Americans on a

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<v Speaker 3>lifelong journey to understand what happened, including John Wayne, whose

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<v Speaker 3>passion project was this Alamo movie, which he directed and funded.

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<v Speaker 3>But it wasn't just the Duke who was passionate about

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<v Speaker 3>the Alamo.

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<v Speaker 2>And Crockett.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Crockett's bigger than Disney and John Wayne. Even John

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne couldn't play Davy Crockett. John Wayne played John Wayne

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<v Speaker 1>playing Davy Crockett. So before my moved to Texas, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad had renovated his childhood home, Jacksonville Beach, Florida, with

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<v Speaker 1>the bell shaped parapet of the Alamo. So here we

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<v Speaker 1>were ten minutes from the Atlantic Ocean, and we had

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<v Speaker 1>neighbors asking why we were building a taco bell in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the neighborhood. Unfortunately, my dad was eventually

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<v Speaker 1>hit with foreclosure. We knew we were going to lose

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<v Speaker 1>the house, and so I was about twenty at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty four. Now I realized I had to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the nest. So I moved to San Antonio in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>ten and within four months of living in San Antonio,

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<v Speaker 1>I was working at the Alamo.

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<v Speaker 3>Passion comes in many shapes, but it's the special breed

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<v Speaker 3>that are passionate about the Alamo that was the voice

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<v Speaker 3>of David Crockett. Fanatic and historical illustrator Wade Dylon. He

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<v Speaker 3>worked for eight years at the Alamo in San Antonio, Texas,

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<v Speaker 3>which to many people surprised despite Wayne's movie, is still standing,

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<v Speaker 3>well most of it in John Wayne's movie, it got

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<v Speaker 3>blown up. The real Battle of the Alamo is a

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<v Speaker 3>central feature in the Texas Revolution that eventually led Texas

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<v Speaker 3>to independence and statehood, and though Texas is now part

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<v Speaker 3>of these United States, many would say that that statehood

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<v Speaker 3>didn't remove that Texas independence. The most debated question of

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<v Speaker 3>the Alamo, though, is how did David Crockett die? This

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<v Speaker 3>has become a really important question. John Wayne's version showed

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<v Speaker 3>that he died the iconic death of a hero in

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<v Speaker 3>the midst of battle. However, there is another version of

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<v Speaker 3>his death that many aren't happy about.

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<v Speaker 4>The Southwestern Historical Quarterly, the editor asked me if I

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<v Speaker 4>would review a new book that a New York City

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<v Speaker 4>fireman by the name of Bill Groeneman, whose amateur historian

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<v Speaker 4>had written it was called Defense of a Legend, David

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<v Speaker 4>Crockett and the Delapinia Diary. And to make a long

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<v Speaker 4>story short, Delapeno was a junior officer in the Mexican

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<v Speaker 4>Army who wrote a diary. Later re rote it as

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<v Speaker 4>a memoir, but it's almost always called his diary. And

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<v Speaker 4>he witnessed the capture and execution of a handful of

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<v Speaker 4>men after the Battle of the Alamo. They were captured

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<v Speaker 4>right at the end, executed within a few minutes, and

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<v Speaker 4>he identifies one of them as being David Crockett.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, did our ears just partake of an

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<v Speaker 3>account of pure heresy? Everybody who knows our Crockett, the

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<v Speaker 3>king of the wild Frontier, who knows no fear, they

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<v Speaker 3>would know that Crockett would never surrender to anyone. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't just capture a Bobcat grinnin Whirlwind Brothers. That was

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<v Speaker 3>doctor James E. Crisp, Professor Emeritus at North Carolina State

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<v Speaker 3>University in Texas. Native He is from te He's a

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<v Speaker 3>national expert on the last five minutes of David Crockett's life,

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<v Speaker 3>and his whole career has been involved In this debate,

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<v Speaker 3>he wrote a book called Sleuthing the Alamo and another

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<v Speaker 3>titled How did Davy Die?

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<v Speaker 2>And Why Do We Care so much?

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<v Speaker 3>The Lapoena Diary is big news, but there's more.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's way.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this is where the controversy comes into play. The

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<v Speaker 1>Dailapenia Diary shows up after the big crocket craze of

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so like one hundred and twenty five years later,

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<v Speaker 3>this diary shows up, which is kind of convenient.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the thing about the diary is a great deal

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<v Speaker 1>of the diary is legitimate, is authentic. But what is

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<v Speaker 1>debated is the section that specifically talks about the execution

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<v Speaker 1>of David Crockett. The pages of that section of the

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<v Speaker 1>diary are different sizes, and they're quite popossibly forged.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, the whole diary is legit, but just

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<v Speaker 3>the section about Crockett's death is a fraud.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm no detective, but that sounds sketchy.

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<v Speaker 3>But it also sounds sketchy that it appeared in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty five, conveniently right when Walt Disney resurrected Crockett's legacy

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<v Speaker 3>with the trilogy of films. Weren't there security cameras or

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<v Speaker 3>military body cams that we can review to see how

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<v Speaker 3>our boy Crockett died.

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<v Speaker 4>Within weeks after the fall of the Alamo, two stories

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<v Speaker 4>had reached New Orleans and was printed in the New

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<v Speaker 4>Orleans papers. One was that Crockett had died fighting like

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<v Speaker 4>a tiger and fell in combat, and the other that

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<v Speaker 4>he was among those handful of men who were captured

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<v Speaker 4>and executed. Both stories were there from the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>There's an artist from Texas who painted two pictures of

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<v Speaker 4>Crockett in the Alamo. One was him fighting and one

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<v Speaker 4>was him captive. That was in the nineteen thirties, so

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<v Speaker 4>the stories were always there. But by the time they

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<v Speaker 4>started making you know, the John Wayne movie and the

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<v Speaker 4>Fest Parker Disneyland version of Crockett, they went with the

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<v Speaker 4>alternate stories. In fest Parker, he dies, you know, swinging

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<v Speaker 4>his rifle, although they never show him die. And in

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<v Speaker 4>John Wayne, I believe he gets blown up in the

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<v Speaker 4>powder magazine after getting stabbed through the chest. We're living

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<v Speaker 4>in a age right now where there's so much falsehood

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<v Speaker 4>put out as conclusions that people don't look at how

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<v Speaker 4>the conclusions were arrived at what you have to do,

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<v Speaker 4>as a professional historian or someone who reads professional historians

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<v Speaker 4>is look at the evidence. And what I've done is

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<v Speaker 4>describe the evidence. There are no eyewitnesses to Crockett dying

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<v Speaker 4>in combat. Zero.

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<v Speaker 3>This man speaks with conviction, and by the end of

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<v Speaker 3>this episode, you're gonna have a gut feeling of what

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<v Speaker 3>happened to Crockett.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's all. It will be, just a feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>There are multiple first hand accounts of seeing Crockett's dead

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<v Speaker 3>body with his Coonskin hat by his side, no joke.

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<v Speaker 2>There are zero.

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<v Speaker 3>Accounts of anyone actually seeing him die fighting, and there

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<v Speaker 3>are three accounts from soldiers in the Mexican Army of

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<v Speaker 3>him being executed, but none of them seemed to be

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<v Speaker 3>rock solid. But before we can answer those questions, we

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<v Speaker 3>need to understand why our Tennessee boy was in Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>In episode three of our Crockett series, we left him

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<v Speaker 3>in eighteen thirty five, when he'd been defeated in a

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<v Speaker 3>race for Congress by Adam Huntsman.

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<v Speaker 2>The defeat chapped him bad.

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<v Speaker 3>He said he was rascaled out of the election, and

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<v Speaker 3>then he finalized a plan that he'd likely had for

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<v Speaker 3>some time.

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<v Speaker 4>Crockett had been in Congress and he lost an election.

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<v Speaker 4>He was defeated by a guy with a wooden leg,

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<v Speaker 4>and he told his constituents, if you're going to vote

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<v Speaker 4>for that Timbertow instead of me, you can all go

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<v Speaker 4>to Hell, and I'm going to Texas. Now. The question

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<v Speaker 4>is why would he choose Texas well. Texas was a

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<v Speaker 4>wide open place for American immigration to where they could

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<v Speaker 4>get good land very cheap, and Crockett needed that because

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<v Speaker 4>he was not a wealthy man. In fact, Crockett had

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<v Speaker 4>lost his life savings more than once in his life.

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<v Speaker 3>Crockett is forty nine years old, and in the words

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<v Speaker 3>of Bono, he still hasn't found what he's looking for,

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<v Speaker 3>which was primarily land in a stable life. Crockett had

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<v Speaker 3>vowed that if Martin van Buren was elected president, he'd

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<v Speaker 3>leave the country, and he famously said, you can all

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<v Speaker 3>go to h double hockey sticks, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go to Texas. And he did just that.

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<v Speaker 3>Matilda Crockett's daughter, wrote that when her father left their

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<v Speaker 3>home in Rutherford, Tennessee, he was quote dressed in his

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<v Speaker 3>hunting shirt, wearing a coonskin cap, and carried a fine

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<v Speaker 3>rifle presented to him by his friends in Philadelphia. He

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<v Speaker 3>seemed very confident the morning he went away that he

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<v Speaker 3>would soon have us all join him in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>End of quote.

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<v Speaker 3>Crockett would cross the Mississippi River, and he arrived in

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<v Speaker 3>Little Rock, Arkansas on November the twelfth, where it's recorded

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<v Speaker 3>that he killed a deer and skinned it behind the

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<v Speaker 3>Jeffreys Hotel and was entertained by a puppet showed a

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<v Speaker 3>local tavern.

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<v Speaker 2>That's no joke.

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<v Speaker 3>It was reported that hundreds of people gathered and held

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<v Speaker 3>a banquet for Crockett at a hotel, and the newspaper

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<v Speaker 3>quoted Crockett as saying, I kid you not. He said quote,

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<v Speaker 3>if I could rest anywhere, it would be in Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 3>where the man a real half horse, half alligator, breathe

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<v Speaker 3>such as grow nowhere else on the face of the

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<v Speaker 3>universal Earth, but just around the backbone of North America.

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<v Speaker 3>I am literally blushing with pride. I didn't make that up.

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<v Speaker 3>But Crockett did leave the Creation State and went to Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>The editor of an Arkansas newspaper would write, quote, we

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<v Speaker 3>shall die contented. We have seen the honorable David Crockett,

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<v Speaker 3>who arrived in this place this evening on his way

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<v Speaker 3>to Texas, where he contemplates ending his days. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>entirely known what this editor meant by this cryptic statement,

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<v Speaker 3>but the prophetic utterance was accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>Crockett leaves for Texas November of eighteen thirty five. He's traveling.

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<v Speaker 1>In each major town that he's crossing through, he's receiving

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<v Speaker 1>updates as to the politics of Texas. They're in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of a war, so the northern Federalist States of

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico that includes Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, at this time, Texas is filled with American

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<v Speaker 1>and European immigrants who have brought their ideologies and practices

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<v Speaker 1>with them. Mexican Representative mere Itehan, when he took a

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<v Speaker 1>tour of Texas, stated that the American immigrants carried their

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<v Speaker 1>constitutions in their pockets.

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<v Speaker 3>These people were energized by the new ideals of America.

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<v Speaker 3>The handwriting was on the wall that this place was

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<v Speaker 3>about to be its own country and it would likely

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<v Speaker 3>be a lot more like America than Mexico. But why

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<v Speaker 3>was Crockett there.

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<v Speaker 1>Crockett comes down to Texas volunteering for six months because

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<v Speaker 1>he realizes during wartime land offices are likely closed, and

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<v Speaker 1>the quickest way for him to acquire land at this

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<v Speaker 1>point upon arrival is by volunteering.

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<v Speaker 3>All these guys were always looking for land. That he

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<v Speaker 3>had been promised over four thousand acres of land for

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<v Speaker 3>his military service. That's a pretty good deal if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't die. Other accounts said he was only guaranteed six

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and forty acres, but Crockett had more on his

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<v Speaker 3>mind than land. Remember, this guy has national fame and

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<v Speaker 3>was a potential candidate for U as president, and now

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<v Speaker 3>he believes that he can be a significant player in

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<v Speaker 3>Texas politics, maybe even president of Texas. Here is Crockett's

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<v Speaker 3>last correspondence with his family that he wrote to his

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<v Speaker 3>daughter Margaret. This is the first time I've had the

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to write you with convenience. I am now blessed

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<v Speaker 3>with excellent health and him in high spirits.

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<v Speaker 2>Although I've had.

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<v Speaker 3>Many difficulties to encounter and have got through safe and

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<v Speaker 3>have been received by everybody with the open arm of friendship.

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<v Speaker 3>I am hailed with a hearty welcome to this country,

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<v Speaker 3>a dinner and a party of ladies have honored me

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<v Speaker 3>with an invitation to participate with them. Both in naked Dedosius.

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<v Speaker 3>In this place. The cannon was fired here on my arrival.

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<v Speaker 3>I must say as to what I have seen of Texas,

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<v Speaker 3>it is the garden spot of the world. The best

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<v Speaker 3>land and the best prospect for health I have ever

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<v Speaker 3>saw is here. I do believe it's a fortune to

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<v Speaker 3>any man to come here. There is a world of

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<v Speaker 3>country to settle, and it's not required here to pay

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<v Speaker 3>down for your league of land. Every man is entitled

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<v Speaker 3>to his head right of four thousand, four hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight acres. They might have the money to pay

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<v Speaker 3>it off the land. This is just how this letter reads,

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<v Speaker 3>So this grammar's kind of wild. I expect an all

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<v Speaker 3>probability to settle on the Bow Dark or the chalktaw

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<v Speaker 3>by you, the Red River that I have found, no

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<v Speaker 3>doubt the richest country in the world, good land, plenty

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<v Speaker 3>of timber, and the best springs and good millstreams, good range,

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<v Speaker 3>clear water, in every appearance of good health and gain plenty.

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<v Speaker 3>It is in the past where the buffalo passes from

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<v Speaker 3>north to south back twice a year, in bees and

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<v Speaker 3>honey plenty. I have a great hope of getting the

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<v Speaker 3>agency to settle that country, and I would be glad

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<v Speaker 3>to see every friend I have settled there. It would

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<v Speaker 3>be a fortune to them all. I have taken the

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<v Speaker 3>oath of the government and have enrolled my name as

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<v Speaker 3>a volunteer for six months, and will set out for

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<v Speaker 3>the Rio Grand in a few days with the volunteers

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<v Speaker 3>from the United States. All volunteers is entitled to a

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<v Speaker 3>vote for a member of the Convention, or to be

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<v Speaker 3>voted four and I have but little doubt of being

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<v Speaker 3>elected a member to form a constitution for this province.

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<v Speaker 3>I am rejoiced at my fate and had rather be

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<v Speaker 3>in my present situation than to be elected to a

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<v Speaker 3>seat in Congress for life. I am in hopes of

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<v Speaker 3>making a fortune for myself and family, as bad as

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<v Speaker 3>have been my prospects. I have not wrote to William,

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<v Speaker 3>but have requested John to direct him what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you will show this letter to him and

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<v Speaker 3>also your brother John, as it is not convenient at

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<v Speaker 3>this time for me to write them. I hope you

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<v Speaker 3>will do the best you can, and I will do

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<v Speaker 3>the same. Do not be uneasy about me, for I

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<v Speaker 3>am with friends. I must close with great respects, your

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<v Speaker 3>affectionate father Farewell, signed David Crockett, January ninth, eighteen thirty six.

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<v Speaker 3>This letter leaves little speculation of the intentions of Crockett

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<v Speaker 3>in Texas. He encountered many people during his time there,

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<v Speaker 3>one of which was a Swisher family. They would later

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<v Speaker 3>write about their time with Crockett.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what they said. Quote.

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<v Speaker 3>He conversed about himself in the most unaffected manner, without

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<v Speaker 3>the slightest attempt to display any genius or smartness. He

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<v Speaker 3>told us many great anecdotes, many of which were commonplace

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<v Speaker 3>and amounted to nothing within themselves, but his inimitable way

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<v Speaker 3>of telling them would convulse us in laughter.

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<v Speaker 2>End of quote.

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<v Speaker 3>This reminds me of John Gadsby Chapman, the portrait painters

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<v Speaker 3>recollections of Crockett. Sounds like it would have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard not to like him.

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<v Speaker 3>This land deal was good for most folks, but there

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<v Speaker 3>were some groups who didn't get a good deal at all.

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<v Speaker 3>This is interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Crockett was going to where lots of Americans were going.

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<v Speaker 4>The population had gone up to close to thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 4>people from the United States, including two or three thousand

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<v Speaker 4>slaves that they had brought in, and slavery was a

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<v Speaker 4>touchy subject in Mexico because good many people in Mexico

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to get rid of it. By the time of

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<v Speaker 4>the Texas Revolution, they had gotten rid of it, and

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<v Speaker 4>virtually all of Mexico except for Texas. Texas had been accepted,

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<v Speaker 4>had been allowed to keep slavery legal. You weren't supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to bring slaves in, but they got around that by

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<v Speaker 4>signing ninety nine year in dentures with their slaves. I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen a copy of one of those. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>the slave in order to learn the art and science

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<v Speaker 4>of agriculture hereby pledge ninety nine years of labor to

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<v Speaker 4>this guy who's taking me in.

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<v Speaker 3>Crockett had crossed into Texas near Clarksville on the Red

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<v Speaker 3>River in late December eighteen thirty five, traveling with his

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<v Speaker 3>nephew and two neighbors from Tennessee. It takes him about

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<v Speaker 3>a month, and we're not sure why, but he ends

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<v Speaker 3>up in San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 1>There, in San Antonio de Bajar, he arrives around February

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<v Speaker 1>nineth eighteen thirty six. He arrives outside of town near

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<v Speaker 1>the old Campo Santo, the old town cemetery, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>greeted with a kind of grizzly scene. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see it as foreshadowing in regards to Crockett. But he

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<v Speaker 1>arrives at the cemetery. That's an acre of land surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by an eight foot wall, and in the center of

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<v Speaker 1>the cemetery is a large cross, and at the base

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<v Speaker 1>of this cross are human skulls, and then throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>cemetery are just boones promiscuously scattered throughout.

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<v Speaker 3>A soldier would later write about this cemetery, describing the

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<v Speaker 3>poorly buried human remains on the surface of the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty seventeen, the Children's Hospital of San Antonio found

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<v Speaker 3>the remains of seventy people when they discovered this spot.

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<v Speaker 3>The Campo Santo Cemetery the same one that likely greeted

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<v Speaker 3>Crockett when he arrived. Just f why if you haven't

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<v Speaker 3>been to what remains of the Alamo. It's literally in

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<v Speaker 3>downtown San Antonio. Shortly after Crockett gets there, things escalate quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>There are two divisions of the Texas military that Wade

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<v Speaker 3>talks about, the Bahard and the Golead Garrisons.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, the Bahart Garrison, as well as the Mendana Goliad

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<v Speaker 1>are receiving reports that the Mexican Army is marching north.

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<v Speaker 1>They have crossed through the presidiod Ario Grande and they're

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<v Speaker 1>heading into Texas. And there's a lot of disbelief because

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<v Speaker 1>it's winter. They don't think the Mexican Army is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come up until the spring because all their pack animals,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have grass to feed. What they don't realize

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<v Speaker 1>is that the Mexican Army has marched through two blizzards

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<v Speaker 1>to put down this rebellion. You're going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>division of the Mexican Army under General Jose Urea head

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<v Speaker 1>towards Goliad. Santa Anna will head towards Bajart. So Crockett, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he is in the thick of it.

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<v Speaker 3>San Antonio was the key to Texas. That's why they

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<v Speaker 3>needed to defend it and why Santa Ana wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>take it. The Bahart Garrison has two guys struggling for

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<v Speaker 3>the leadership of the group, James Bowie and William Travis.

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<v Speaker 3>Both of these guys were wild dudes. Here's an excerpt

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<v Speaker 3>from Michael Wallace's biography of Crockett, titled David Crockett And Again,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're looking for a Crockett biography. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>one I would suggest. Here's what he said about Bowie

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<v Speaker 3>and Travis. Beside making a fortune as a dealer in

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<v Speaker 3>human cargo and subverting the ban on the slave trade, Bowie,

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<v Speaker 3>like Stephen Austin, also became a land speculator. He sold

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<v Speaker 3>fraudulent claims in Arkansas Territory, masterminded a series of property

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<v Speaker 3>swindles in Louisiana, and speculated in Texas land. Bowie saw

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<v Speaker 3>that there was an immense profit to be made in

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<v Speaker 3>Texas real estate. He learned Spanish, joined the Catholic Church,

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<v Speaker 3>and became a Mexican citizen, and married into one of

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<v Speaker 3>San Antonio's prominent Tehano families. When his wife and two

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<v Speaker 3>children died during a colliria epidemic, Bowie went into an

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<v Speaker 3>alcoholic depression that lasted until his death in his sick

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<v Speaker 3>bed at the Alamo, where he's served as commander of

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<v Speaker 3>volunteer soldiers. William Barrett Travis, commander of the regular Army

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<v Speaker 3>troops defending the Old Mission Fortress, was an attorney by trade.

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<v Speaker 3>He knew Bowie from San Felipe, where he served as

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<v Speaker 3>the Knife Fighter's Council, a South Carolinian native, Travis, like

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<v Speaker 3>many others, came to Texas to escape bad debts and

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<v Speaker 3>avoid going to prison. After abandoning his pregnant wife and

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<v Speaker 3>young son in Alabama, he entered Texas illegally and immediately

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<v Speaker 3>became involved in the slave trade. He settled in San

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<v Speaker 3>Felipe de Austin in eighteen thirty one, obtained some land

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<v Speaker 3>from Stephen Austin, and established his new practice. Enjoyed the

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<v Speaker 3>company of women, was known to devour Sir Walter Scott novels,

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<v Speaker 3>and divorced his wife in eighteen thirty six when she

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<v Speaker 3>showed up to save their marriage. Although he neglected to

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<v Speaker 3>pay off the debts left behind in Alabama, Travis soon

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<v Speaker 3>began acquiring land and slaves, including a young black man

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<v Speaker 3>known only as Joe. He would stay with his white

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<v Speaker 3>master all the way to the end of the Alamo,

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<v Speaker 3>where his life was spared because he was a slave.

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<v Speaker 3>I realize that's just two paragraphs about these guys, but

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like they were pretty wild. And now these two

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<v Speaker 3>are struggling to see who's gonna lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually, these two men put together an olive branch. They

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<v Speaker 1>come together. They realize they need to stick together to

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<v Speaker 1>defend the town in the best interest of the defensive Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for the next few days, I imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>they're really trying to assess the situation. How can they

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<v Speaker 1>with their meager force of maybe one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>volunteers at this time, how can they defend the town.

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<v Speaker 1>They realize they really can't if they were to be

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<v Speaker 1>attacked now based on the reports, But they can continue

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<v Speaker 1>fortifying the Alamo. The Alamo is an old Spanish mission.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been converted into a fortress and used as

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<v Speaker 1>a military outpost. Ever sense the mission was desecularized in

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen ninety three. So there it is the Alamo, four

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<v Speaker 1>and a half acre compound, fortified with eighteen pieces of artillery.

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<v Speaker 1>They realize if the Mexican army were to arrive, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have to retreat into the Alamo. Now every single day,

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<v Speaker 1>Travis and Buie, I mean, they're just they're wearing themselves out,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to receive reinforcements, receive supplies, try and get some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of response out of this forming government within Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can't.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't.

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<v Speaker 1>On February twenty third, Santa Anna and the Mexican army arrive.

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<v Speaker 3>The people in San Antonio were very surprised at Santa

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<v Speaker 3>Anna's early arrival.

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Anna's attached to the vanguard. They number roughly fifteen

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>hundred Travis Bowie Crockett. They realize again they cannot defend

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the town, so they withdraw in to the Alamo. Slowly

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<v Speaker 1>but surely. The Mexican army arrive without resistance, they take

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<v Speaker 1>the town. They mount a blood red banner from the

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<v Speaker 1>top the bell tower of the San Fernando Church. That

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<v Speaker 1>blood red banner meaning death tall Traders, Death tall Pirates.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Santa Anna's symbol to the Bahar Garrison or

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<v Speaker 1>the Alamo Garrison at this point that he is there

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<v Speaker 1>to carry out the Tornell Decree, which by Mexican law states,

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>if you rebel against the Mexican government under an unrecognized flag,

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>you are labeled a pirate and put to the sword.

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>So Santa Anna is going to follow that.

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 3>To the tee, Death to all pirates. Turns out pirates

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 3>don't need water. The word pirate means a person who

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 3>appropriates or reproduces the work of another without permission. So

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Santa Anna has taken the city and the Texas soldiers

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 3>and the people of the town have retreated into this

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 3>old Spanish fort, the Alamo. The second day of the siege,

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Bowie becomes deathly ill and turns over full command to Travis.

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Travis wrote a famous letter on that day pleading for reinforcements,

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 3>and he signed it Victory or Death. In Billy Bob

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Thornton's two thousand and four movie on Crockett, it shows

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Crockett on the wall of the Alamo playing the fiddle

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 3>for the Mexican army. To hear Crockett playing the fiddle

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 3>at the Alamo is likely a myth because it didn't

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 3>show up in the literature until almost fifty years after

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 3>the battle, and we're not even entirely sure that he

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 3>knew how to play the fiddle.

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<v Speaker 2>This is important stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The very next day of February twenty fifth, third day

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>of the siege, the Mexican army is already starting to

0:29:55.400 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>be to surround the Alamo fort with artillery, batteries and

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the fort. It's the same day that sant Anna decides

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to test the defenses on the southern end of the fort,

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and the Mexican army begins to attack on the south side,

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and for two and a half hours, the Alamo garrison

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>is holding their own. Crockett, in a letter written by Travis,

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>is seen at all points, animating the men to do

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 1>their duty. So Crockett, having been in battles, been in conflict,

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>his natural leadership skills are coming through. And at the

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>age of forty nine. You know, I'm sure Crockett's you know,

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>firing the rifle himself. But he is out there despite

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>being a private, acting like Colonel Crockett.

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I think this is an important part of the story

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 3>if we're trying to know who Crockett was. This isn't myth,

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 3>but was recorded in an official letter from the commanding

0:30:56.640 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 3>officer that Crockett is out there leading and fighting, which

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 3>seems entirely consistent with the crocket we've seen.

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>The siege lasts for thirteen days, and a great deal

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>of that time is spent by these men endearing an

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>artillery bombardment, living off of rations. The Mexican Army eventually

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>cuts off their access to water, and so the slaves

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>within the fortress are likely assigned to dig a new

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>well inside of the fort. Morale is just going down.

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>They're waiting and waiting for reinforcements, thinking that any day

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>now Fannin is going to arrive.

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Fannin is the leader of the closest garrison of Texas troops,

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 3>and they've been communicating with him, but he just can't

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 3>get there in time.

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>There's some debate as to whether towards the end of

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the siege, Travis requests a parley. There's some debate as

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>to whether or not Travis is trying to save the

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>lives of his men, but eventually the the answer is

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>very clear that they're not going to march out of

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>that fort alive. So the end of the siege, Travis

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>gathers his men and has a talk. Now, there's one

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>rendition of this story that comes to us from William P.

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Zuber that Travis drew a line in the sand asking

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>his men to stay and fight with him. But whether

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that happened or not, the Alamo garrison that they stay.

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Crockett stays.

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 2>My luck gargo, not a lod.

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.959
<v Speaker 1>The heartbreak for me personally, when I try and get

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 1>into the minds of these men is what was their

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>headspace like, you know, Crockett. Crockett came all this way

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 1>for forty nine years he had been trying. He's come

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>all this way to now get stuck inside of a

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>fort in a foreign country. I'm sure he's dealing with

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:23.959
<v Speaker 1>some reluctance. All of these men are scared. But come Sunday,

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>March sixth, five point thirty in the morning, one six

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred Centralist Mexican soldiers attack the fort from all sides.

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's very possible that Crockett is somewhere along the

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>west wall or even the north wall. During the battle,

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>the Mexican army spills into the compound, and all of

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>this action is taking place so quickly that the Alama

0:33:56.040 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>defenders are unable to spike or disable their artillery. So

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 1>as the Alamo defenders retreat into the Long Barrack, into

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the old convent of the Spanish Mission, the Mexican army

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>turned the cannons inward and them through the doors in

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>fire across the plaza. The Mexican army, now congregating in

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 1>the heart of the fort inside of the plaza, now

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>race across and they begin sweeping through each individual rooms

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.800
<v Speaker 1>of the Long Barrack, where we would see the last

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.919
<v Speaker 1>stand at the Battle of the Alamo. This is the

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 1>deadliest grizzliest hand to hand fighting taking place.

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 3>I hesitated to use these clichet sounds of battle with

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 3>the corny dramatic music. These were real humans, real fear,

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 3>real blood, real pain. In the moment, these men weren't

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:56.760
<v Speaker 3>thinking about being immortalized he rose on TV or in books.

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 3>They were trying not to die and be swallowed by.

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>And by seven o'clock in the morning, the battle of

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>the Alamo is over. The moment the Battle of the

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Alamou is over, that's when you can really begin to

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:17.879
<v Speaker 1>track the myth of the death of David Crockett. How

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>did Crockett die? To me, it doesn't matter how Crockett died,

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>because he fought and died at the Alamo. But after

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the battle, survivor Susannah Dickinson, who was the only English

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>speaking female survivor. The rest were Tehana. They spoke Spanish.

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>As she is escorted out of the church, holding her

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>fifteen month old daughter, Angelina and also nursing a wounded

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>ankle she had been shot. She states in her account,

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.879
<v Speaker 1>which was dictated later in life, she states, I saw

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 1>Colonel Crockett lying dead between the church and the two

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>story barrack building. Mutilated with his peculiar cap lying by

0:35:58.280 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>his side.

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 3>That peculiar hat was most likely a Coonskin hat for real,

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 3>because there are two different accounts of Crockett wearing it

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 3>when he was leaving Tennessee, one from his daughter and

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 3>another from a guy named John Davis who saw him

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 3>wearing a Coonskin hat when he left Memphis. This is

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 3>one place I like Crockett better than Boone. A man's

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 3>got to have a touch of pizzazz, and a Coonskin

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 3>hat delivers that. It was said that Daniel Boone wore

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 3>a beaver Felt hat, and now that's pretty classy. And

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:33.800
<v Speaker 3>that's why I actually wear both, not at the same time.

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 3>In case you're wondering, Josh Landbridge spilmaker makes my coonskin hats,

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 3>and Seeing Hat Company made me my one hundred percent

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:45.919
<v Speaker 3>beaver Felt hat that I wear a lot.

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Now this is Crockett's body being identified. Of course, we

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know how Crockett died. Most accounts state that Crockett

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>went down fighting, but of course those accounts, for the

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>most part, are not from reliable sources. And then we

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>have the account of Lieutenant Colonel Jose Enrique de Lapina,

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>who states that Crockett identifies himself as a naturalist, one

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:19.760
<v Speaker 1>of seven amongst a group of survivors. Shortly after the battle,

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 1>they are brought before Santa Anna. Where Santa Anna he's

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 1>going to carry out the Tornello decree deathall pirates, and

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>these men are executed. They are beaten to death by swords.

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Here's doctor Crisp.

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna learn that he one hundred percent believes in

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 3>the accuracies of the day La Pina Diaries. But I

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 3>want to ask him appointed question. Why do you think

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:50.760
<v Speaker 3>it's so important for the legacy of Texas for Crockett

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 3>to have died fighting rather than, you know, just being

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 3>taken to captive. Why is that so important do you

0:37:58.320 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 3>think to people?

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 4>Well, you can and get some clues from the paintings.

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:07.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at the cover of my book Slothing the Alamo,

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 4>and there's a painting done around nineteen one nineteen two.

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.720
<v Speaker 4>It's the last moments of Crockett's life when he's fighting

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:22.719
<v Speaker 4>there at the Alamo. And this figure of Crockett is

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 4>actually copied from a figure of George Armstrong Custer, which

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 4>was at the time the most famous painting in lithograph

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 4>in America, it's the same pose. And what Custer is

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.919
<v Speaker 4>doing is he's fighting the Indians and he's about to die.

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 4>And the way I try to interpret this is that

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 4>people were saying, there are certain enemies that you never

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 4>surrender to.

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 3>I can understand how this idea could be important to

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 3>a state's identity. Doctor Chris believes that it's rooted in

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.879
<v Speaker 3>ideas of racial supremacy, and when you hear him out,

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 3>he makes a compelling point. But was that the true

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.879
<v Speaker 3>motivation of this painting and the whole reason that these

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 3>people are passionate about Crockett died in battle?

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 4>Why were people angry at me and writing and writing

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 4>hate mail to me when I said, look, the Mexicans

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 4>executed Crockett, and they were accusing me of being pro Mexican.

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 4>They just couldn't take the idea that Crockett had allowed

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.479
<v Speaker 4>himself to be captured. I never used the S word,

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 4>that is surrender. Crockett was captured when his weapons were

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 4>no longer useful, when he was out of ammunition, when

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 4>these half dozen men were taken, and Santa Anna got

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 4>very angry. He said, I told you no prisoners today,

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 4>and so he immediately ordered the men around him to

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 4>execute the prisoners. He gave the order to the Zappadores,

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 4>but instead of firing their guns, the Sappers didn't fire

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 4>their guns, and and his own retinue, his own junior

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 4>officers stepped forth and killed the men with swords and bayonets.

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 4>They weren't executed firing squad style. They were executed with

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 4>bayonets and swords. And what Dellapinia said, and it was

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 4>mistranslated into English, but what he said into the Spanish

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 4>is that they died moaning, but they did not humiliate themselves.

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 4>That's what he said about the men who were killed.

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 4>There's a mindset that anyone who says something like this

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 4>about Crockett, you know that Crockett was killed after the battle,

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 4>is somehow tearing down the Texan myth, the Texan personality,

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 4>the Texan attitude, everything that makes Texans Texans. I'm a historian.

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.760
<v Speaker 4>I have to look at the evidence, and the evidence

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 4>is overwhelming that Crockett was executed.

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 3>Big if true. Big if true. Here's his thoughts on

0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 3>the day La Poena Diaries.

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 4>The Deleapinia diary. Since I worked on it has been

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 4>subjected to forensic analysis, paper, water damage, insect damage, inc.

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 4>It passed every test, every test, and those are by

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 4>experts at the University of Texas. So I don't have

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 4>any doubt about the authenticity, and I don't have much

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.760
<v Speaker 4>doubt at all about the accuracy. I know it's authentic.

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 4>I believe because they're corroborating witnesses that it was, that

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 4>it was accurate. You know, history is not religion. You

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 4>don't learn it on your mother's knee and just know

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 4>it's true. You need to take a look at how

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 4>you know what you know. A lot of people don't

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 4>ever want to do that. They tell me what they believe.

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 4>I say, how do you know? And most of them

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 4>don't have a good answer for that. When I first

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.919
<v Speaker 4>started talking to high school students after I got into

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 4>this controversy, one of the students said, listen, you can't

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 4>change history, as if it all got written down by somebody,

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.320
<v Speaker 4>and now we have to take everything that was written

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 4>down as true, no matter what the documents say, no

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 4>matter what other eyewitnesses say. But most people who think

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 4>they know history don't know how they know what they

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 4>think they know.

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Doctor Chris believes the Daila poena diary to be accurate.

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Here's what our boy Wade thinks.

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Crockett was executed. I think Crockett died

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>in battle, whether he was shot crossing the plaza or

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>he went down fighting swinging his rifle as depicted in

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:45.359
<v Speaker 1>popular culture. The reason I don't believe Crockett was executed

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>is well, I have a hard time buying that the

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>most famous American at the time is brought face to

0:42:55.640 --> 0:43:01.399
<v Speaker 1>face to Santa Ana. He's identified and executed, Whereas if

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Santa Anna realized who Crockett was, Santa Anna would have

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>used him as leverage of American intervention in this war.

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I see that if Santa Anna truly realized who Crockett was,

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 1>that Santa Anna may have spared him sent him back

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 1>down to Mexico to show of a foreign involvement. Instead,

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Santa Anna, after the battle, sends down to Mexico the

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>flag of the New Orleans Grays, showing American involvement, and

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>he writes in a letter stating that he had seen

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the bodies of the leader Travis, the Braggart Bowie, and

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>some man named Crockett.

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<v Speaker 3>So that would mean that he didn't execute Crockett. He

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<v Speaker 3>just saw the body of Crockett.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think that's what happened. I think Travis's slave

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<v Speaker 1>Joe is identifying the bodies of the leaders, and of

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 1>course Joe has the task of trying to find the

0:43:56.440 --> 0:44:00.360
<v Speaker 1>bodies in the midst of this chaos. And Joe in

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<v Speaker 1>his account that Crockett was surrounded by friend and foe,

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<v Speaker 1>so like he died fighting quite possibly.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, of course, if Crockett was involved in an execution scenario,

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<v Speaker 1>that could have occurred anywhere inside of the fort, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course there's bodies strewn throughout. I just think the

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<v Speaker 1>likelihood of that happening is it's It sounds too good

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 1>to be true. Really, it sounds like well, Hollywood, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Crockett went down in battle.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting. I love the passion of both of these positions.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you starting to develop a gut feeling? Here's doctor crisp.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, you believe what you want to believe.

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 4>Very often it becomes a matter of ideology and a

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 4>matter of self definition, a self image. Dan Kilgore, who

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<v Speaker 4>first published the Little book How did Davy Die? And

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.760
<v Speaker 4>who looked at the evidence and decided that dell opinion

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 4>was correct. He was called a communist. People told me

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.399
<v Speaker 4>I ought to wash his mouth out with soap. They

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<v Speaker 4>called him a smut peddler because they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 4>hear his conclusion. And at one time Dan Kilgore said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't mind so much if they had just read

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 4>the book. But they didn't read it. They just saw

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<v Speaker 4>the conclusion and they knew they didn't like him, and

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<v Speaker 4>so then they attacked him personally. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of that going on today. Still. I've experienced some

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 4>of it myself, although I have, in fact made friends

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:41.399
<v Speaker 4>of some people who originally wanted to, as one woman said,

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<v Speaker 4>gut me with a bowie knife because hanging is too.

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Good for me.

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 4>I met her in front of the animal That's when

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.320
<v Speaker 4>she said that, and I said, have you read the article?

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<v Speaker 4>She said no, I'm just a Crockett loyalist. She later

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<v Speaker 4>became a good friend and decided I wasn't a bad

0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 4>guy after all.

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we get to these ideas of our heroes, and

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<v Speaker 3>then when they're torn down, we think that that that

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 3>idea is.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let's be careful about using the Let's be careful

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 4>about using the term toned down. People accused me of

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<v Speaker 4>the very beginning when I first published this stuff, of

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<v Speaker 4>saying that Crockett was a coward. And I said, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>just a minute. Were the guys at Batan and Corrigador cowards?

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:28.320
<v Speaker 4>These were guys who held out until they just couldn't

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 4>hold out anymore. Are these cowards? Absolutely? And so by

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 4>saying that someone was, it's like John McCain, Is John

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.759
<v Speaker 4>McCain some kind of coward, some kind of you know,

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 4>awful guy because he allowed himself to be captured. No,

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<v Speaker 4>Crockett was a Crockett was a good guy. I like

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 4>David Crockett more a lot more than I like Andrew Jackson.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Crockett was a very admirable person. He was

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<v Speaker 4>a popular figure in America, and deservedly so.

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<v Speaker 3>I asked Wade why he thought the way David Crockett

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<v Speaker 3>died with such an important question.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it has everything to do with closure. Everybody

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 1>needs closure in their lives. Everybody needs answers, especially to

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>big questions. And unfortunately, a lot of the big questions

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives will go unanswered, and in regards to

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<v Speaker 1>in regards to Crockett, will likely never know for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Wade is such a Crockett Alamo die hard that he's

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<v Speaker 3>working on a fully illustrated book about Crockett. Basically, it's

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:50.319
<v Speaker 3>a really cool, detailed comic book that will be a

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 3>couple hundred pages long when it's finished. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>ask him why the Alamo was so special to him.

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a story of so few against so many. It's

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 1>an underdog story. You have this congregation of all of

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>these very colorful characters at this one spot. It's almost

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 1>too good to be true, but it happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to ask Wade why Crockett was so important

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<v Speaker 3>to him.

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<v Speaker 1>With David Crockett, my appeal to him has always been

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 1>he's the common man, and he's the common man who

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:36.879
<v Speaker 1>is always hit with these obstacles in his life, death

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:41.240
<v Speaker 1>in the family, loss of his businesses, but he always

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<v Speaker 1>finds the strength to keep going to as he would say,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead. Yeah, Crockett lost a lot, and that connected

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 1>with me and my father because we lost a lot.

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 1>My mother, my dad's wife, passed away in nineteen ninety eight,

0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>we lost the house to foreclosure, lost Uncle Jamie to cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, when putting all of that together, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make sense of things and just you know, realizing

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 1>that other people have been through the same thing you

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<v Speaker 1>have and in you know the context, Crockett he took

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that pain, he took those struggles, and you know he

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<v Speaker 1>pushed forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we love Crockett because of his failure? Most American

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 3>heroes we love because of how successful they were, But

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<v Speaker 3>in almost every area of Crockett's life, he seemed to fail.

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 3>Even at the very end of his life.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost.

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 3>The Alamo movie was John Wayne's passion project. He made

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 3>several promotional and inspirational videos about his movie. I want

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<v Speaker 3>us to hear from the Duke what he thinks about.

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<v Speaker 2>The Alamo.

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<v Speaker 5>Boy. Travis and Dickenson and the others had died in

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:13.799
<v Speaker 5>the Alimal held off an army for thirteen days, and

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 5>it's hard to believe that they ever existed, had become

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:20.920
<v Speaker 5>legends before the smoke over the battle had blown away.

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<v Speaker 5>What kind of men were they? Well, we know that

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<v Speaker 5>they died and that they were heroes, But nobody wants

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<v Speaker 5>to die, and nobody just decided to be a hero

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 5>has to be forced on you. That's what happened to them,

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 5>was forced on them. Because they were stuck with ideas

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<v Speaker 5>like freedom and the rights of the individual, hatred a dictators. Crockett,

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<v Speaker 5>for instance, refused to sign the Health of Allegiance. The

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:51.840
<v Speaker 5>Government of Texas in the late changed it to the

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<v Speaker 5>Republican Government of Texas. Living free meant a lot more

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<v Speaker 5>to them than cowering in security. Another thing about Crockett,

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<v Speaker 5>When he left for the Alamo, he said his children

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<v Speaker 5>this message, I hope you'll do the best you can.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll do the same. Don't be uneasy about me. I

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<v Speaker 5>am with my friends. Worked out just about that way.

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<v Speaker 5>He stayed with his friends, and he did the best

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<v Speaker 5>he could.

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't think the motivations of those at the

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Alamo were as clarified as John Wayne is proposing in

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 3>his movie promotion. Time has a way of honing the

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<v Speaker 3>narrative of people's motivations, sometimes shaping them into things that

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:45.000
<v Speaker 3>are far more noble than they were. But sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 3>the opposite, and it makes their motivations way worse than

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 3>they actually were. The only thing we know for sure

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<v Speaker 3>is that those men fought and died for a cause

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<v Speaker 3>that would deeply affect the trajectory of America. Here's our

0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 3>old friend Robert Morgan with an overview of how Crockett

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<v Speaker 3>affected America.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, there's several ways that Crockett is very important to

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<v Speaker 6>the history and the culture of this country. I think

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:19.399
<v Speaker 6>the first is he created the model of the backwoods

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<v Speaker 6>politician with all the jokes and the backwood language and humor,

0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 6>which culminates in Abraham Lincoln. As a matter of fact,

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 6>I mean there are many parallels between them their behavior

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 6>in Washington. He has a huge impact on American literature,

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<v Speaker 6>showing how you can create literature in the voice of

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 6>the ordinary people in his autobiography and his speeches. That

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:49.360
<v Speaker 6>probably culminates in Huckleberry Finn, which has got to be

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:53.520
<v Speaker 6>one of the two or three greatest novels in American literature.

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:59.959
<v Speaker 6>He had a huge impact on oratory of bringing back

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:06.040
<v Speaker 6>woods preaching. It's really preaching that the greatest speaker in

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:11.040
<v Speaker 6>the American history is almost certainly Tecumse, who could move

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 6>people to do whatever he told them to do. Never

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:16.960
<v Speaker 6>they wrote down so impressive white people, they had never

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 6>seen anybody who could speak that way, and Crockett had

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 6>some of that. He was from that world, and talking

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:28.919
<v Speaker 6>to the big talk was a very important thing. Also by

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 6>dying at the Alamo. He was so famous that he

0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:37.480
<v Speaker 6>influenced the sympathy of the whole country for Texas independence.

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<v Speaker 6>Because of Texas independence, it was ten years later annexed

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:45.840
<v Speaker 6>as a state. Because it was annexed as a state,

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:50.880
<v Speaker 6>Polk was able to create the Mexican War by sending

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<v Speaker 6>soldiers down there who were attacked on the Rio Grande

0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 6>by the Mexican Army. It's an excuse for fighting Mexico.

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<v Speaker 6>Because of the Mexican War, Polk was able to claim

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<v Speaker 6>paying fifteen million dollars for the whole West Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, California.

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<v Speaker 3>The Texas Revolution would become a critical component of American expansion,

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<v Speaker 3>and the social popularity supporting that revolution was dramatically influenced

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<v Speaker 3>by crocketts popularity and death at the Alamo. Just hours

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<v Speaker 3>after the Alamo fell, the Texas Declaration of Independence was

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<v Speaker 3>proposed and passed, and that would eventually form the Republic

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:45.200
<v Speaker 3>of Texas, which stayed an independent nation from eighteen thirty

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:49.480
<v Speaker 3>six until December twenty ninth, eighteen forty five, when it

0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 3>was admitted into the Union of the United States as

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.759
<v Speaker 3>the twenty eighth state. The bodies of the dead at

0:54:56.800 --> 0:55:00.200
<v Speaker 3>the Alamo were burned by the Mexican Army, and their

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 3>ashes are now incorporated into the soil lying beneath the Alamo.

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<v Speaker 3>After the report of Crockett's death, many claim to have

0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:13.479
<v Speaker 3>seen him alive. Crockett's son John Wesley ended up going

0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 3>to Texas to investigate his father's death for himself. In

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<v Speaker 3>the mid eighteen fifties, Crockett's widow, Elizabeth, and their two

0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 3>sons would receive three hundred and twenty acres of land

0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:30.920
<v Speaker 3>for David's military service and move to Texas, where Elizabeth

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:34.440
<v Speaker 3>would live until her death at the age of seventy

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<v Speaker 3>two on January thirty first, eighteen sixty in Hood.

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<v Speaker 2>County, Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't thank you guys enough for listening to Bear Grease.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you'll share our podcast with a friend, and

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<v Speaker 3>I look forward to talking with everybody on the Render

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<v Speaker 3>about Crockett's death at the Alamo next week.