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Speaker 1: All sorts of stuff going on. Mario Christobal, coach of

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Speaker 1: the Miami Hurricanes, last hour, Former Bears and Dolphins coach

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Speaker 1: Dave wandstat in fifteen minutes, it is a Friday. It

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Speaker 1: is great to have you here. Cowboys get feat thirty

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Speaker 1: seven thirty late lost. Get to that in a second.

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Speaker 1: It's been a strange year for the Blazing Five. At

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Speaker 1: one point I was up to sixty two percent. Last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks have been one under five hundred, so

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Speaker 1: at fifty eight percent, which I would keep, I would

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Speaker 1: sign off on today. If I to get fifty eight

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Speaker 1: and a half percent. This is the strangest Blazing Five ever.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking games I don't want to watch necessarily, and

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Speaker 1: I'm also taking underdogs. I've been heavy favorites this year

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Speaker 1: because the market called for it. The winter weather is

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Speaker 1: moving in. I like four underdogs this weekend. And here's

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Speaker 1: the blazing five.

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Speaker 2: Let's blaze it up, fired up, it's Collins Blazon fuck

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Speaker 2: Bengals and Bills.

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Speaker 1: I like Cincinnati getting T Higgins back plus six coming

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Speaker 1: off extra rest nineteen and nine last five years December January.

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Speaker 1: That's Burrow. By the way, what's Burrow when his last

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Speaker 1: eight starts? Eight? And oh he is back. The Bills

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Speaker 1: have not been good. McDermott's won for his one for

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Speaker 1: four against the Bengals. The offense now for Buffalo multiple

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Speaker 1: giveaway is in four straight games. They can't stop the run,

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals three straight games rushing for over one

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Speaker 1: hundred yards. T Higgins is back, Joey Gosa out for Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow more time to throw upset. Take Cincinnati plus

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Speaker 1: the six to beat Buffalo outright, Joe Burrow, T Higgins.

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Speaker 3: Here they go. Thirty twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: Colt said Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: I'll take the Jaguars at home plus one and a half.

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Speaker 1: They've won ten straight games against the Colts in Jayville.

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Speaker 1: They own him in Jacksonville, and they're on a three

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Speaker 1: game winning streak and they have the number one rush

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Speaker 1: defense that will force force the Colts to throw. The

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Speaker 1: problem is Daniel Jones has a fibula fracture, not moving

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Speaker 1: particularly well, and over the last couple of games he's

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Speaker 1: completing fifty seven percent of his throws. The offense feel

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Speaker 1: was a little broken since Week nine. These are two

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Speaker 1: different teams. Jacksonville very good. The Colts average at about

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Speaker 1: twenty two a game.

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Speaker 3: One in three.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars always good against the Colts in this spot, win

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Speaker 3: To twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Dolphins and Jets. What am I doing? I'm taking the

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Speaker 1: Jets as a home dog plus two and a half.

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, I'm gonna go with him. Ad Mitchell, that

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Speaker 1: wide receiver that came over from the Colts. Do you

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Speaker 1: see what he did last week?

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Speaker 1: Ah, got some good numbers, eight catches. You see that

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Speaker 1: top ten pass defense without Sauce Gardner.

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Speaker 3: Listen, the Jets are playing their butt off.

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Speaker 1: They've won three of five, and they're scoring points, and

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Speaker 1: they're at home and they're a dog. And did you

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Speaker 1: watch Tua over the last month. I don't know what's wrong.

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Speaker 1: First of all, he's terrible in cold weather. No touchdowns

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Speaker 1: for two and three of his last four games, leaves

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Speaker 1: the NFL with fourteen in their TUA. Something's off, it's

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Speaker 1: getting cold. The Jets are playing hard for Aaron Glenn.

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Speaker 1: Not a great team playing hard. I take the Jets

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Speaker 1: to win and cover twenty seven twenty four, take them in.

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Speaker 4: The point, Texans aid, Chiefs, I have to.

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Speaker 3: Take the hook.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the Texans plus the hook three and a

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Speaker 1: half four game winning streak. Five of their six road

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Speaker 1: games this season have been one score games, number one

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Speaker 1: got to take the hook here. Chiefs have been out

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Speaker 1: gained in three of their last four games. By the way,

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Speaker 1: in twelve games, they have twenty two sacks Kansas City's

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Speaker 1: I don't know who wins. I don't know who wins,

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Speaker 1: I am taking Houston though three and a half point.

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Speaker 4: Eagles at Chargers, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna take the Eagles minus two and a half is

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Speaker 1: my only favorite. They're four and two on the road.

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Speaker 1: They beat Kansas City at Bucks and Green Bay on

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Speaker 1: the road. Number one red zone offense, number five offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and Saquon Barkley may not be running, but Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: for some reason, is often a better road quarterback. The

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Speaker 1: the last ten weeks. They got hammered by both of them.

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Speaker 1: And the offensive line it's not good at all. So

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts last two years on the road, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you he's better away from Philly, and I think I

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Speaker 1: the crowd is sixty five thirty vibe. Philadelphia feels a

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Speaker 1: little bit like a home game. I'm gonna swallow the

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Speaker 1: two and a half. I'm gonna take Philly twenty four

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Speaker 1: to twenty jmacho reaction. I don't take dogs. I don't

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Speaker 1: like to bet games like the Jags Colts, which I

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Speaker 1: find hard to watch. But I'm taking the underdog Bengals.

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Speaker 1: I get the Jaguars. I'm taking the Jets. I know,

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Speaker 1: but I love the Jets call.

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Speaker 5: By the way, you know what they're calling Tyrod Taylor,

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Speaker 5: ty god Taylor is He's seven to one against the

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Speaker 5: cover and it is cold in New York this week.

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Speaker 5: I like that call, Buddy.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, whenever you get a standalone game,

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Speaker 1: last night was a standalone game.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's watching it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody tends to overreact, and I mean that's just the

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Speaker 1: way we do it. Standalone games get a lot of discussion,

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Speaker 1: much more discussion than the average game. Beating the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving did not mean the Cowboys were a super threat.

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Speaker 1: It meant they can go toe to toe now with

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams. We don't even think Kansas City's great.

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Speaker 1: They're five hundred. I don't think losing to the Lions

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Speaker 1: last night means they stink. It was thirty seven thirty

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Speaker 1: with about two and a half minutes left. It was

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Speaker 1: a shootout, and George Pickens was pouting on Prime not

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Speaker 1: a good headline. They also held Detroit under their average

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Speaker 1: running I honestly think Dallas going forward, maybe not this year,

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Speaker 1: They it's a great offensive tackle draft and a great

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Speaker 1: what I would do with their first two picks. So

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Speaker 1: I think that George Pickens performance late when Ceedie got

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Speaker 1: hurt that bothers me. That's the Pickens in Pittsburgh. That's

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Speaker 1: why they moved off him. Whenever there's a great player traded.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Pittsburgh moved off ab Antonio Brown. You saw why.

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Speaker 1: You can see why George Pickens. It's too good to

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Speaker 1: on TV. Mike Tomlin has a high threshold for drama.

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Speaker 1: They moved off him. So I was hoping you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: see this. Here was dak on Pickens last night.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure Georgia Tay went his best game.

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Speaker 6: That's tough when you're.

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Speaker 3: Playing the way that he's played, when you're the type

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Speaker 7: I'll be the first to say it's hard.

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Speaker 6: To do that weekend and week out.

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Speaker 8: But I think George can I know George believes he can,

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Speaker 8: and I think he would just say that this game

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure he'll own it and I know he'll

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Speaker 3: be better. I believe.

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Speaker 1: I believe words gotten to George Pickens, maybe through an

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Speaker 1: giving it his best effort. Here was Brian Schottenheimer on Pickens, was.

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Speaker 7: Anything you want to pick against?

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Speaker 9: It didn't seem like he had to say in energy tone.

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Speaker 7: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I'm want to look at it.

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Speaker 7: I mean he was being doubled. You know, a minute CD.

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Speaker 5: Went out, they just decided to play everything two man

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Speaker 5: over there and try to double them and take them away.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that worries me a little, But I think Dallas

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Speaker 1: the two first round picks, Dak's playing well.

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Speaker 3: The O line.

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Speaker 1: They need to right tackle in the draft. There's three

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Speaker 1: of them they need to right tackle with one of

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Speaker 1: their draft picks. They don't have to draft an edge,

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Speaker 1: but it's a great edge draft, and if you look

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Speaker 1: at where they're picking, they'll probably have they'll probably be

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Speaker 1: able to draft the second or third or fourth best

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Speaker 1: edge rusher. But I don't think beating the Chiefs on

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving meant they were a super Bowl team, and beating

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia didn't necessarily mean that. But these standalone games, they

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Speaker 1: just get talked about differently and with more vigor and

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Speaker 1: enthusiasm and excitement. I thought, you saw a shootout, and

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Speaker 1: I think the better overall roster today is Detroit. And

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Speaker 1: Detroit was at home and their running game was rolling.

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Speaker 1: And I mean we've said this. I mean, go look

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson? It felt like every Sunday? But Detroit's had

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Speaker 1: several games this year. Go look out what they did

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what they did to the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Detroit right now is a better overall team than Dallas.

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Speaker 1: They were at home, they felt desperate, and they want

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Speaker 1: to track me, but it was thirty seven to thirty

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Speaker 1: two and a half to go.

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Speaker 1: Last time the Chicago Bears won a road playoff game,

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Speaker 1: Dave Wonstat was the coach. He's now joining us live

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Speaker 1: here in the studio in Chicago, thirty nine years college

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Speaker 1: or pro coach. So you must love Ben Johnson because

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Speaker 1: last week they ran at what forty seven times? And

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Speaker 1: my argument is we always think of physicality with defense. Actually,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan his physicality is with defense and running the football.

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Speaker 1: So your thoughts on Ben Johnson's willingness even with Caleb

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Speaker 7: Signed Aaron Rodgers. You remember it was late who's the quarterback.

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Speaker 7: It's tough to get out of that cycle unless you

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Speaker 9: Mean Colin, I mean it's you know, I used to

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Speaker 9: And you know they were And it's not about talent

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Speaker 9: I worked with him at Buffalo.

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Speaker 7: Coach tell I know, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, I mean, dude, to take take it over.

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Speaker 9: It might be better for Philly to get on the.

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Speaker 1: I think getting out of town actually helps them. Plus

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Speaker 1: the Sulfi crowd will be by sixty five thirty five Philadelphia.

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Speaker 10: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's do some college Big ten championship. I worry

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Speaker 1: a little little bit about Ohio State off the Michigan

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Speaker 1: win and looking at the playoff being you know, dipping

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But I was told this by a

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Speaker 1: coach who has been on the sidelines for Ohio State

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Speaker 1: in Indiana. Ohio State looks like bigger. They look like

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Speaker 1: they got fifteen NFL guys. Ohio State's got better players,

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Speaker 1: Their coaching staff's excellent. Julian saying is great.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, he is.

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Speaker 1: I like Ohio State here. I think it just comes

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Speaker 1: down to they've got Indiana beat Oregon at Oregon. But

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Speaker 1: Oregon doesn't have, as we saw at the end of

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Speaker 1: last year, Ohio State guys.

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Speaker 3: Yet I like the buck guys.

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Speaker 7: You yeah, two things here that Ohio State.

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Speaker 9: Ohio State has not been behind in a pressure situation

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Speaker 9: at the end of the game. And you've got Julia saying,

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Speaker 9: who's playing leading the country seventy How do you complete

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Speaker 9: seventy almost seventy nine percent of your.

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Speaker 3: Pass incredibly good and accurate for a kid.

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 9: And he's got two receivers he's leading. You know, both

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Speaker 9: Tate and Jeremiah Smith are leading the nation in plays

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Speaker 9: over forty yards. So he's got weapons with him. Yes,

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Speaker 9: But here's what I think this game comes down to.

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Speaker 9: You got saying, who's a freshman, okay, and you've got Mendoza,

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Speaker 9: who's a five year senior. Okay, he's been around, So

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Speaker 9: you've got a little bit more experience, obviously, a lot

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Speaker 9: more experience with Indiana, and Indiana has been battle tested

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Speaker 9: by that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, they have been behind.

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Speaker 9: It's final drive against Iowa, it's an end of the

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Speaker 9: game against Penn State, it's Oregon at the end of

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Speaker 9: the game, I mean, and they have found ways when

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Speaker 9: they look up at that scoreboard and there's six seven

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Speaker 9: minutes left or less. Against a talented team, they have

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Speaker 9: found ways to win the game.

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Speaker 7: Ohio State hasn't yet. You know, so I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I'm not selling Indiana short by any means. I think

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Speaker 9: you know, think about this, you said, Ohio State offensive line,

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Speaker 9: they look the part.

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Speaker 7: They've given up the fourth.

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Speaker 9: Top ten in the least amount of tackles for losses.

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Speaker 9: That's who's number two in the nation, Indiana. As far

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Speaker 9: as making tackles for a loss, there's your battle. It's

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Speaker 9: going to be a battle up front here. And then

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Speaker 9: if it comes down to a close game at the end,

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Speaker 9: what quarterback can make a play? I mean this and

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Speaker 9: saying this could be the first game.

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Speaker 1: That he's going to have to win the game in

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Speaker 1: sane yep. For Ohio State, we've already seen Mendoz that

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Speaker 1: do it at Penn State.

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Speaker 3: That was one for the ages.

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Speaker 1: Finally, you know the Miami Hurricanes, Well, they beat Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame head to head. They had four common opponents, they

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Speaker 1: were better against them. Miami's got the better defense, Miami's

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Speaker 1: got the better passing game. And again, once the records

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Speaker 1: are the same head to head. We know this in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, that's the first thing they use.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I have Mario Christabaul on last hour. I and I'm

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Speaker 1: a Notre Dame. I love Notre Dame, and I think

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Speaker 1: they'd be favored if they played. But that's not what

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Speaker 1: this is about. I think Miam he's getting host here,

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Speaker 1: don't you? Oh?

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Speaker 7: One hundred percent? One hundred percent? I mean I uh yeah.

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Speaker 9: If you look at both teams, everybody keeps saying, well,

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Speaker 9: Notre Dame would be favored.

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Speaker 3: I would say, why, Well they were favored the first time?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Why why? I mean, you know, what defense would you like?

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Speaker 3: Miami?

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Speaker 7: Thank you? What quarterback would you like? Miami?

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Speaker 3: Probably? No, Miami.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely.

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Speaker 9: Did you see in the pick game? I guess myol

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Speaker 9: mawater last game in the season. Those receivers made some catches,

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Speaker 9: you know, NFL catches for Miami.

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Speaker 1: No, Miami's Miami looks the part. We by the way,

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Speaker 1: they have the best edge rusher in the sport right now,

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Speaker 1: Bain that kid could be on the second third pick.

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Speaker 1: So Miami's got the great edge rusher. Miami's got great receivers.

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Speaker 1: What Notre Dame has is a terrific coach, so does Miami.

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Speaker 1: And I love the running back. Yeah, he is a

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Speaker 1: great player. But again, I this can't be about the

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Speaker 1: spread and it can't be about what I think four

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Speaker 1: common opponents head the head matchup. Now people have said, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was the first and I said this,

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Speaker 1: I said, you got to contextualize that first game. Well,

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Speaker 1: when I watched the Pit game, it did make me

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Speaker 1: think differently, and it made me get a microscope out

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Speaker 1: and go look at their standings the NCAA, the head

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Speaker 1: to head I'm sorry, let me.

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Speaker 7: Ask you this.

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Speaker 9: What about if Texas didn't go play Ohio State the

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Speaker 9: first game and lose by it once they did? Yeah,

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Speaker 9: they did. We're talking about you know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: I mean, if so, I don't know, you shouldn't get penalized.

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Speaker 9: Miami shouldn't get penalized for playing Notre Dame.

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Speaker 7: That's That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Siley, Penn State a little bit of a circus, you

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Speaker 1: know it well, reportedly finalizing a deal for Matt Campbell.

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Speaker 1: According to Yahoo give Yahoo credit. That's a pretty good get.

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Speaker 1: Is it not for late in the process?

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Speaker 7: It is for what what you're working with.

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Speaker 9: At Iowa State. I've been there, I've coached up against them.

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Speaker 9: That's a tough job, and he has done a very

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Speaker 9: good job. He's uh, you know, he's a smart guy,

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Speaker 9: good to good staff. Yeah, I don't know, you know

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Speaker 9: where it fits, but recruiting and stuff. He's kind of

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Speaker 9: a East Coast guy, so he'll tie in there. I

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Speaker 9: think it's a good hire for him, I really do.

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Speaker 9: I know everybody's up in arms and stuff, but uh, yeah,

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Speaker 9: he's a good hire for him. And how do you

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Speaker 9: know call it? You know, everybody wants to hire the

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Speaker 9: name guy that.

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Speaker 7: Wasn't gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Kelly didn't work at LSU.

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Speaker 9: No, So I mean, you know, hire the guy that

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Speaker 9: that you feel good about, that you can communicate with.

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Speaker 7: And I think that's what they've done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dave wanstat last time the Bears won a road

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Speaker 1: playoff game.

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Speaker 3: Wow, those are hard to hoo.

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Speaker 7: Did you beat We beat Minnesota in Minnesota?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a quarterback for them for them.

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Speaker 9: It was Warren Moon, I believe, Yeah, Warren Moon, Chris Carter,

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Speaker 9: Robert Smith. That was a good offense coach.

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Speaker 3: Remember the game?

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Speaker 7: Do I remember the game?

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Speaker 3: Third?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? I remember the game we blocked the punt. We

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Speaker 9: blocked the punt. We had Steve Walsh was our quarterback

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Speaker 9: and we were you know, were bon coach. We ran

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Speaker 9: the ball as you can imagine, and we had the

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Speaker 9: little boots and waggles, the movement passes at Chicago uses

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Speaker 9: and uh and then we forced them to kick field

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Speaker 9: goals rather than touchdowns in the red zone.

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Speaker 7: That was the difference in the game. That's field goals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody wants to kick those anymore.

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Speaker 7: Go Ford, go for it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Did Detroit go for it last night?

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Speaker 3: The Detroit scale back a little bit and the go

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Speaker 3: for it stuff?

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Speaker 7: Thank god?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank god?

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Speaker 7: Damn cam oh for seven.

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Speaker 1: That would make you think twice about it, right, good

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Speaker 1: seeing the coach.

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Speaker 3: Thanks all right.

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Speaker 2: Herd Line on the other end, be sure to catch

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Speaker 2: live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon eastern nine

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Speaker 2: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: Tomorrow, for the first time in conference history, Number one

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Speaker 5: and number two collide.

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Speaker 3: In the Big Ten title game.

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Speaker 5: Ticeman front Runners collide as Julian sand leads Number one

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Speaker 5: Ohio State against Fernando Mendoza and number two Indiana. Coverage

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Speaker 5: begins tomorrow at six thirty eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: If Miami Mario Cristobal next hour, If Miami doesn't make

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff, I would not want to face

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Speaker 1: them in a bowl game. And with the Pulan Weed

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Speaker 1: Eater bowl game, They're gonna be in a bad mood.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now that that freshman receiver, they

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Speaker 1: are edge rushers.

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Speaker 3: They got this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Miami is more impressive if you take Love

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Speaker 1: out for Notre Dame, the great running back. Miami is

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Speaker 1: more impressive on television to look at because I think,

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Speaker 1: now defense, no question, Miami defense, no passing game, Miami

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Speaker 1: head to head, Miami common opponents Miami. If I've watched

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Speaker 1: Miami play five times, Notre Dame five times, Love is unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: For Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: I mean you could make an argument he's the fourth

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Speaker 1: or fifth best player in college football. The running back

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love, He's unbelievable. Their run game is really good.

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Speaker 1: They got two running backs.

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Speaker 5: Price is awesome. What is this Miami lobbying? I mean,

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Speaker 5: you're Malachai Tony. That receiver good good, He's really good.

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Speaker 5: But the Notre Dame quarterback is a better prospect than

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Speaker 5: the prospect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Miami quarter I care about prospect. I care about today.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well you care about today. How did Beck

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Speaker 5: do against Louisville as a double digit favorite? He vomited

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Speaker 5: all over.

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Speaker 3: Himself, had like six interceptions, fine, not six, but like three.

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Speaker 3: He was terrible.

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Speaker 5: Come on, stop the Miami lobbying common notre name team.

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Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman could take them to the national championship this year.

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Speaker 3: That's how good this team is.

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Speaker 5: Have you seen him many second half points they've given

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Speaker 5: up in like the last eight games.

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Speaker 3: Nor Marcus Freeman's great. Yeah, their resume says, what's their

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Speaker 3: big quality win? They don't have any bad losses? Okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean you can say Indiana schedules week they went to

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Speaker 1: Oregon and Hammer win the Ducks.

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Speaker 5: Well okay, we I mean listen, you want to do

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Speaker 5: that now or get their headline heard line.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I need some time to operate on stuff,

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Speaker 1: all right, Jmack with a.

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Speaker 7: News No, no, turn on the news.

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Speaker 4: This is the herd line news.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Justin Herbert Colin he will play likely likely not a

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Speaker 5: lock likely to play on Monday. He only missed ten

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Speaker 5: snaps after busting up his hand against the Raiders, and

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Speaker 5: he did operate exclusively out of the shotgun in that matchup.

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Speaker 5: Here's the bad news for the Chargers. If they decide, hey, Herbert,

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Speaker 5: sit this one out. Let's we want you as close

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Speaker 5: to one hundred percent next week against the Chiefs. That's

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Speaker 5: a huge game, Colin, much bigger than this non conference

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Speaker 5: That's that's right.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons in the Blazing five that

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Speaker 1: I lean Philadelphia. Jalen Carter may be out, No, he's out,

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Speaker 1: he's out, Yeah, but they have other I mean, their

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Speaker 1: defense is not a concern Herbert. I mean, ask yourself this,

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Speaker 1: with the Chiefs coming up, what if Herbert in the

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Speaker 1: first quarter gets hit a couple times and you're like,

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Speaker 1: you could see the Chargers going time out, get him

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Speaker 1: out of there, that we'll get I mean, if Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter starts winning the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: and Herbert gets whacked, which, by the way, this year

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Speaker 1: he and cam Mood have been hit more than any

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Speaker 1: other quarterback, you could see the Chargers saying enough, let's

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Speaker 1: keep him for next week.

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Speaker 5: The season's over if Herbert goes down and can't play

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Speaker 5: for the mat game. So that's why I would sit him. Now,

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Speaker 5: I know that Harball is a tough guy. Herbert's a

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Speaker 5: tough guy. He's gonna want to play. But just remember

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Speaker 5: the Chargers don't have their starting tackles okay, and.

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Speaker 3: Their interior line is the lowest rate in the league.

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Speaker 5: This is not a smart decision. Again, maybe it's just me.

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Speaker 5: Trey Lance would give them no chance. This line probably

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Speaker 5: balloons to seven and a half. If it's Lance, maybe more.

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Speaker 5: I mean Trey Lances. He's not an NFL quarterback. So

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Speaker 5: a tough one for the Chargers, and that's more bad

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Speaker 5: news for the Cowboys, who will be very upset if

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Speaker 5: the Eagles win. All right, let's move on to more

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Speaker 5: quarterback issues. And that's my guy, JJ McCarthy in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to take credit for him, is my guy.

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Speaker 5: He only has six starts, but he's been terrible and

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Speaker 5: it's really impacted Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: Colin, I don't know if you saw this.

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Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson did like nothing last week two catches for

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Speaker 5: four yards from Brosmer, but he hasn't done well on

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Speaker 5: the McCarthy starts. Here's one of the best receivers in

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Speaker 5: the league. This is not diva behavior, but he's just

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Speaker 5: a little upset, which is understandable.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 10: Now, I wouldn't say wasted. Obviously, it's a difficult season.

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Speaker 10: You know, it's probably one of the most difficult seasons,

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Speaker 10: just off of the circumstances, having a young quarterback, having

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Speaker 10: a different team, having young players on the on the team.

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Speaker 10: So it's just, you know, one of those years. You know,

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Speaker 10: not every year is going to be, you know, our

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Speaker 10: top tier year. For me, you know, it's really a

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Speaker 10: part of the game. So it's just all on me

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Speaker 10: to to you know, expect a lot from these guys

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Speaker 10: and to improve on anything that we need to improve on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was gonna be one of my picks until

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Speaker 1: I heard Jayden Daniels was gonna play.

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Speaker 3: I backed out of it.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a chicken like you are, So I will

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Speaker 5: be talking about this game in the headline's final hour.

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Speaker 3: Just a quick note on Jefferson.

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Speaker 5: There was news today elsewhere in the league that could

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Speaker 5: impact Minnesota for next year.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw Kyler Murray done for the season.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for I did not see that.

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Speaker 5: The Kyler put a cryptic thing on Instagram stories like

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Speaker 5: what a weird way is?

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Speaker 3: It was just odd. Something's amiss. It sounds like Kyler's done.

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Speaker 5: I think you got to give McCarthy another chance. But

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Speaker 5: I'm curious, do you think Kevin McCarthy and the brain

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Speaker 5: trust not Kevin McCarthy. Kevin O'Connell and the brain trust

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Speaker 5: in Minnesota says, do we kick.

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Speaker 3: The tires on Kyler Murray? I think I think it.

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Speaker 1: I think you can get mac Jones for a much

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Speaker 1: cheaper price, not a lot of drama. I think mac Jones. Remember,

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell wants you to run his play. He didn't

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Speaker 1: want you to add lib out of it. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I think mac Jones is the play.

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Speaker 3: I really do that. And by the way, bring.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones in if you get a again, if you

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Speaker 1: get the Baker number, well, if you get the Sam number,

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Speaker 1: you can keep all your other great players.

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Speaker 5: That sounds good. I need to check his contract. I

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Speaker 5: think he signed a two year deal with Lynch and Shanahan,

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Speaker 5: so I don't even know that he I mean, you

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Speaker 5: don't trade him if you're the Niners, right, Yeah, Kyler

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Speaker 5: Murray though his market, Colin, It's gonna be really interesting

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Speaker 5: because again, you cold weather division just forget about it, right,

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Speaker 5: You don't want him going outdoors twice a year and

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Speaker 5: thirty degree weather. So I think that removes like half

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Speaker 5: the league. And then you're like Pittsburgh. You're like, oh,

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Speaker 5: maybe Pittsburgh really you want him outdoors in Cleveland, in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: And Pittsburgh needs to solve their quarterback position for the

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Speaker 1: next fifteen years. They've been duck taping it for too

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Speaker 1: many years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this Minnesota, we'll see MacArthur. O'll get another shot.

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Speaker 3: Final story, Colin is the.

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Speaker 5: Kansas City chief They have arguably the biggest game of

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Speaker 5: the weekend Sunday Night football against the Texans.

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Speaker 3: This number had.

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Speaker 5: Dropped to three, it's back up to three and a half. Listen,

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs are dominant in one score games. Last year

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Speaker 5: they have been less so this year. Here's Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 5: talking about these close games.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure everyone's sick of us saying it, but we're

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Speaker 6: a few plays away from being a you know, a

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Speaker 6: one scene. In my mind, all the losses are within

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Speaker 6: one score, and there's a handful of plays within those

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Speaker 6: games that are determining the outcome. It's crazy that you

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Speaker 6: watch the film and you see what's real, and what's real.

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Speaker 7: Is that we're this close, man, We're this close.

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Speaker 1: I think there's two issues. One, the on line as

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Speaker 1: of this morning is a mess going up against Houston.

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Speaker 4: That is mad.

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Speaker 1: That is whatever the under is, go ball the under.

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Speaker 1: And the second problem is, and it's fair to say

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones, Jason has not had a great year, and

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Speaker 1: they just don't get people off the field on third down.

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Speaker 1: And as you know, I mean, there's never been talented receivers,

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Speaker 1: never been more talented quarterbacks. They're not getting people off

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Speaker 1: the field. And now in their division, Denver and the

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Speaker 1: Chargers have elite coaches and really talented quarterbacks. So I

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Speaker 1: think it just if you look at the history of dynasties,

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Speaker 1: the windows closed pretty quick. Even the Patriots closed. They

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Speaker 1: had two different dynasties, the early one in the late one.

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Speaker 1: For ten years they didn't win a Super Bowl. And

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Speaker 1: that's why you didn't like them to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I did, but I didn't. I said, I think the

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Speaker 1: dynasty part is over and it's just age. Chris Jones

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Speaker 1: is older. Travis Kelcey older can't get people off the field.

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Speaker 1: This is what it looks. They haven't fallen off a

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Speaker 1: cliff in terms of performance. They were in close games

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Speaker 1: last year one of them. They're in close games this year.

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Speaker 1: They're losing them. So they haven't gone They're not getting

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Speaker 1: blown out, but you can tell they just they're just

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Speaker 1: the on line. They have got to attack it in

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Speaker 1: the offseason. It feels like the last three years, once

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Speaker 1: they moved off Joe Toney, you're like, uh oh, Joe Toney,

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Speaker 1: Chicago picked him up. Boom, and look what it's done

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Speaker 1: to there in Serio Olte.

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Speaker 3: Now that's a good point.

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Speaker 5: I just looked and it looks like a gentleman named

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Speaker 5: Jania Morris maybe starting at one of the tackles this week. Colin,

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Speaker 5: don't look at his pro football grades. You will go

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Speaker 5: blind from all the redness. It is very bad. This

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Speaker 5: guy's not good. Remember they went and addressed the offensive

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Speaker 5: line with I think Jalen Moore. Is that what they

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Speaker 5: got the kid from San fran it's not really working out.

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Speaker 3: He was a backup with the Niners.

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Speaker 5: So again, Kelsey could talk about being close by the way,

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Speaker 5: how about the pass off Kelsey's hands at the gold

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Speaker 5: line against the.

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Speaker 3: Eagles that results in an interception goal the other way

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Speaker 3: that change a game.

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Speaker 5: He's not wrong about that. I just don't see how

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Speaker 5: they turn it around this before.

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Speaker 3: I agree. I totally agree Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 4: Well that's the.

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Speaker 2: News, and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, today we can put the schedule up. It's a

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Speaker 1: very interesting weekend. I mean there are games that don't

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Speaker 1: feel high profile, like Colts at Jags.

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Speaker 3: That's going to go a.

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Speaker 1: Long way in a termining playoff seedings. Yeah, thank you

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Speaker 1: for the staff. They just put this up. Chris Jones

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Speaker 1: PFF rank this season's thirty seventh. Last year it was first,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's one of the reasons Chris Jones has

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Speaker 1: always been a big play guy in big moments. He's

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Speaker 1: like he's like like Aaron Donald was like this, like

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Speaker 1: if it was a big third down in a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl or a playoff game, you had to triple Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 1: That was Chris Jones. You don't have to anymore. So

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Speaker 1: they can't get people off the field like they used to.

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Speaker 1: There's some interesting games and I think there's all sorts

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Speaker 1: of potential upsets. I already told you I think Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: upsets Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 1: I think the Jets upset Miami. You know what you

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Speaker 1: talked me out of taking the Bears in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: You singularly did it, and then I started. Once you

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Speaker 1: did it, I went and listen to people who I respect,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people like the Packers.

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Speaker 3: Oh interesting, real quick on that Browns Titans. I kind

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Speaker 3: of want to call the Titans outright dub and then

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Speaker 3: a Chadur loses to the Titans, and now.

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Speaker 5: It's like, oh, we got to get we got we

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Speaker 5: gotta get who's he got from Oregon?

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Speaker 3: What's his face? We gotta get Dylan gab No, Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 3: We got to get him back in starting next week.

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Speaker 5: That would be a bad loss for Shador if they

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Speaker 5: lose to the Titans at home.

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Speaker 3: It's it's gonna be a great Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Saturday's phenomenal with the college football game, dude, you got

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Speaker 5: to be careful with the gambling this weekend.

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Speaker 3: There's so many good games in the field. Cabell I

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Speaker 3: started the week with a loss. Last week. I got

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Speaker 3: Georgia Bama.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of injuries popping up in that I

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Speaker 5: don't know if we'll get to it in the final hour.

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Speaker 1: But I like Georgia. But Bama has absolutely had Kirby

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Speaker 1: Smart's number. Yes, that is a great coaching matchup Kaylin

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Speaker 1: de Borr and Kirby Smart. Those are good staff. Forget

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Speaker 1: the NFL guys. Great staff.