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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily where they got us in the end.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio

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Speaker 1: on YouTube line for the first time and obviously in

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Speaker 1: your ears the morning after one of the wildest Sunday

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Speaker 1: night cappers to finish a regular season. I'm with my

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Speaker 1: friends Jordan rod Rieg and Patrick Claybond. Who's gonna give

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Speaker 1: us a lesson in professionalism? Patrick, you warned me when

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson hit that throw to Isaiah Likely on fourth

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Speaker 1: down down the field and Isaac Likely is skying through

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Speaker 1: the air to make what should have been the play

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Speaker 1: of the game, that we had a lot of ballgame left,

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately we didn't have much left. But it was

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Speaker 1: a give up play and it was a missed field

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Speaker 1: goal by Tyler Loop that ends the Ravens season.

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Speaker 2: And to shout out Greg Rosenthal, who's not it's not hindsight,

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Speaker 2: it was foresight to say I don't like that. I

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Speaker 2: don't like centering up the ball with that opportunity with

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Speaker 2: a guy who was twenty seven yards shot of leading

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Speaker 2: the NFL in rushing, has more explosive runs almost than

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Speaker 2: anybody in the last forty years, and Derrick Henry to

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Speaker 2: not give him one more shot.

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Speaker 3: But hey, you know, but.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know what I gotta say, The Ravens and

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Speaker 1: the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: They give us stuff to talk about.

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Speaker 1: In a world that's top seed turvy, you don't know

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: The Ravens Steelers, they always deliver.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna get to recapping that Ravens and Steelers game.

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Speaker 1: This is a full recap show that we're doing here

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Speaker 1: live on YouTube. And so what we're gonna do, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna break it up AFC first because of that Ravens game,

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Speaker 1: go through all the teams that made the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: then NFC after that with the great Saturday games as well.

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Speaker 1: But first, let's actually look at the playoffs schedule before

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Speaker 1: we get into these games and the matchups. Ooh, West

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Speaker 1: of Vis, Yeah, you might be going to this, Jordan Rodrigue.

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Speaker 1: We'll see that the traditional time that Andy Dalton and

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals would always play, the early Saturday afternoon game.

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Speaker 1: And our great friend that this podcast studio is named after,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, called it West of Us because that's when

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Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis and Andy Dalton and very often the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans go to play a little bit of football, and

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Speaker 1: over the years it's turned into a Texans game. And

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Speaker 1: here we are Andy Dalton as the backup quarterback for

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Speaker 1: the Panthers against the Rams early. That shows what a

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Speaker 1: good Wildcard weekend it is that they put the Rams

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Speaker 1: in that game. Packers and Bears are the Saturday night

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Speaker 1: game that is on Prime Video. We're going to be

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Speaker 1: recapping that game. It's going to be myself and Bill

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Speaker 1: Barnwell Saturday night. On Sunday, we have the six seeded

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills going to Jacksonville. That's a fun new matchup.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers and Eagles Sunday afternoon on Fox. And

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Speaker 1: then Chargers and Patriots, what a spicy matchup Sunday Night

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Speaker 1: Football on NBC, and then as up with Texans and

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Speaker 1: now yes, Pittsburgh Steelers on Monday Night. Aaron Rodgers will

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Speaker 1: play at least one more game in his career, at

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Speaker 1: least one more game with the Steelers, although I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have more of Rodgers, this Steelers team that

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Speaker 1: you just can't get rid of him. Let's get to

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Speaker 1: the Highlands.

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Speaker 5: This feel boltep will beside the AFC North Champion. You've ready,

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Speaker 5: here's the snap, here's the hole, here's the boot by

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Speaker 5: Loup and that kick.

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Speaker 4: Is Christian Senior.

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Speaker 6: Pittsburgh Steelers AREFC North champions.

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Speaker 4: Baby, oh baby, what did we just win? This here?

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, what we witnessed and that was Rob

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Speaker 1: King and Max Starks on WDV, great call. Steelers are

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Speaker 1: the AFC North champs. What we witnessed was maybe the

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Speaker 1: last time Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh ever face off,

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Speaker 1: one of the most memorable Ravens Steelers matchups that we've seen,

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Speaker 1: because for three quarters it was exactly what you expected,

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Speaker 1: just ugly AFC North ball. This looked like maybe the

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, it was highlight after highlight, two fifty

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Speaker 1: and we do you know, we don't need to focus

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Speaker 9: What.

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Speaker 8: This John Harbaugh game slash perhaps future? And it comes

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Speaker 8: Lamar and DeAndre Hopkins miscommunicating in the final moments on

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Speaker 8: It's all these little things the Ravens have been struggling

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Speaker 1: Team, right, he's a special teams coach. And yeah, they

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Speaker 1: you know, despite those mistakes, you got what you weren't

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Speaker 1: Let's actually listen to the Lamar Jackson play that kind

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Speaker 11: Touchdown Ravens and the Ravens regained the lead with eight

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Speaker 1: And at that point you kind of think, okay, maybe

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Speaker 4: As a Ravens fan, Patrick like, where is your ire headed? First?

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Speaker 4: Because I know you're not a happy man.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking watching this game, how this game was

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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of stuff is just determined by the universe.

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Speaker 2: of that as they were There was a moment in

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Speaker 2: it was two Ravens that got sent on a mission

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Speaker 2: So he can't be too upset with that because it's

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Speaker 2: football and things happened on the touchdown play to Zay

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Speaker 3: It was the lasting image that I will have of.

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Speaker 2: This season is Daniel Filele slowly turning around and looking

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Speaker 2: at which player is going to sack Lamar Jackson. Fortunately,

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Speaker 3: But all of the things that have gone wrong. A

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Speaker 2: You had Isaiah Likely make the catch in the closing moments,

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Speaker 2: you had Zay Flowers make all those catches get up field.

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Speaker 3: No wiggly running today.

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Speaker 2: The smaller things that went wrong went right, and you

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Speaker 2: just haven't seen a I'll think Tyler Loops kicked the

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Speaker 3: The wacky nature of aker.

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Speaker 2: Sure, if Chris Boswell's missing kicks, that's why it wasn't

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Speaker 2: very confident in Loop from forty four.

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Speaker 1: So to back up in the fourth quarter, Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: there were two long Zay Flowers touchdowns. The two Ravens

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Speaker 1: touchdown drives are four for seventy one and three for

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Speaker 1: seventy three. And that's a sixty four yarder for Flowers

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Speaker 1: and a fifty yarder, which is just outrageous. But that's

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Speaker 1: the only way the Ravens were getting offense all year. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: I don't think this stopped the Ravens from going on

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Speaker 1: a long playoff run, but it would have been interesting

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Speaker 4: Ultimately, I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have been nice for you, But the

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Speaker 4: We got the Texans next week.

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Speaker 1: And one thing I do I don't think you should

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Speaker 1: this Steelers offense. And yeah, they're going up against banged

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to the Calvin Austin catch. With fifty five

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Speaker 5: Rodgers gets a snap four man rush coming Rodgers back lofting.

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Speaker 12: to the lineup, Calvin Austin from injury, his third touchdown,

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Speaker 12: and with fifty five seconds left, the Steelers are up

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Speaker 3: The extra point.

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Speaker 1: It's such a ragtag Steelers receiver group going up against

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Speaker 4: To me, that was just not special.

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Speaker 1: And the best players in this case, Kyle Hamilton gets

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Speaker 8: This was a Steelers offense that you knew was going

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Speaker 8: other in the screening room thinking, yeah, Darneld Washington makes

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Speaker 8: and instead Aaron Rodgers leaned on the running backs, both

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Speaker 4: This was going to be the Steelers MVP. Kenny Gainwell

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Speaker 8: Time, absolutely and this was had to be the way,

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Speaker 1: Now we know the AFC North, You know the Ravens

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Speaker 13: We're under four minutes in county here. The Broncos have

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Speaker 14: Route deflective, the intercepting intercepted, and down the west sideline.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Broncos defense is making big time plays

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Speaker 2: Earned it because this team what they do is they

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Speaker 1: I think it's more of a credit to Jesse Minter,

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Speaker 4: They took their business.

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Speaker 1: They're left tackle who might make the All Pro team

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Speaker 4: This was week eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Thankfully he did.

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Speaker 2: Cool scenario where ownership in certain times is like, you

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Speaker 8: He's just doing his buddy Jesse Minter a solid. You know,

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Speaker 8: he's just doing all of his buddies in the longtime

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Speaker 8: friends in the league. You know.

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Speaker 4: Fair point.

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Speaker 1: And if you're curious why the Broncos are the one

444
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Speaker 1: seed and the bronc and the Patriots are the two seed,

445
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Speaker 1: they both finished fourteen and three, it's because of common opponents.

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Speaker 1: And you know what common opponent. The Patriots lost to

447
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Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders, Geno freaking Smith in Week one.

448
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Speaker 1: That's the difference between Denver getting home field and not so.

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Speaker 4: The Patriots were.

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Speaker 1: They were playing at the same time, but they weren't

451
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Speaker 1: worried about it. They were gonna do everything they could

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Speaker 1: to get that two seed or you know, get a

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Speaker 1: little help, which we now know they did not.

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Speaker 14: But just a stird in eighteen, from a forty five

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Speaker 14: to four man rush, Allen dropped a throw Chechicicua.

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Speaker 6: Well picked off and in a sept Jack flunny back

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Speaker 6: Antonio Gonson forty forty.

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Speaker 15: Five, twenty fifty.

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Speaker 6: Tim Bud touchdown, Ptonio Conton with a pick.

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Speaker 4: Safe to Jackon and shoving the lade. How good is that?

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Speaker 1: That's better than a Patriots game. It's a Jaguars win.

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Speaker 1: More interesting on Sunday afternoon was this AFC South the

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Speaker 1: early games, and we thought maybe the Titans could could

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Speaker 1: scare Jacksonville. They went into the day looking for the

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Speaker 1: AFC South crown to set up the pressure on Denver

466
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Speaker 1: in New England later in the day. Ultimately, they walked

467
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Speaker 1: forty one to seven Jaguars win over the Titans. That

468
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Speaker 1: was Frank Frangie and Jeff Logman on w j XL.

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Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars are your AFC South champions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they are.

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Speaker 8: Greg Rosenthal and myself we picked them as our messy

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Speaker 8: fun team. Now they're just fun. Also, Greg, it's okay,

473
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Speaker 8: Patrick and I have been tracking this all season. You

474
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Speaker 8: just have Fox Burrow on the brain. You just have

475
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Speaker 8: your New England Patriots on the brain. So it's totally fine.

476
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Speaker 8: But cam Ward left this game in the first quarter

477
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Speaker 8: and was ruled out by halftime with the shoulder injury

478
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Speaker 8: he'd scored a touchdown early and the Titans actually had

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Speaker 8: a seven zero lead. Jeffrey Simmons was giving the entire

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Speaker 8: Jaguars offense the business, but that was only gonna last

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Speaker 8: so long, especially with Tennessee playing Brandon Allen, former Jacksonville Jaguar,

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Speaker 8: at quarterback. So including that pick six on Allen that

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Speaker 8: you heard by Antonio Johnson, this game was thirty one

484
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Speaker 8: seven at halftime, and Trevor Lawrence became Jacksonville's new franchise

485
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Speaker 8: touchdown leader.

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Speaker 4: How about that already?

487
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Speaker 8: Yeah, pass Blake Bortles. Someone had to, you know.

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Speaker 4: I guess Mark Brunel didn't play that many years for

489
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Speaker 4: Jacksonville and the touchdown inflation over the years, but he

490
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Speaker 4: also went over four thousand yards. Trevor Lawrence could be

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Speaker 4: on an MVP ballot. Maybe I don't think he should be.

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Speaker 1: But a writer I really respect and trust, John Shipley,

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Speaker 1: who writes about the Jaguars, said he you know, he

494
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Speaker 1: should get some MVP votes, and you get five votes.

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Speaker 4: It's not that crazy.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not crazy.

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Speaker 1: I think you got to count the first half of

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Speaker 1: the season and he wasn't playing that well. I don't

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Speaker 1: think for half the season that's important. But he's on

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Speaker 1: quarterback Island, which is better than any MVP vote. And

501
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Speaker 1: I would say, if you were just going MVP second

502
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Speaker 1: half of the season, remember how we did the first half,

503
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Speaker 1: it really might be Trevor Lawrence. And so it's just wild.

504
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Speaker 1: They take care of business in this game. So it's

505
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Speaker 1: nothing like overly surprising. I'm a little concerned that their

506
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Speaker 1: running game still didn't look even against the Tennessee Titans.

507
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Speaker 1: But this has turned into a dangerous team and basically

508
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Speaker 1: like every team in the AFC, I think they have

509
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Speaker 1: a legitimate chance to.

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Speaker 4: Make the Super Bowl. But I feel like you're looking at.

511
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Speaker 1: That Jags Bills game and you're, yeah, I don't want

512
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Speaker 1: to spoil our preview show, but I feel like Patrick's.

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Speaker 4: Going to be circling the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the Jags have a good pass rush.

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Speaker 2: They have between heinz Allen and Trevon Walker, the capacity

516
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Speaker 2: and the athleticism, because you need guys on the edge

517
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Speaker 2: that can bother Josh where he just doesn't disregard them

518
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Speaker 2: and go on his leisurely journeys to the sideline before

519
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Speaker 2: he whips the ball down the field fifty yards and also,

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Speaker 2: I think they can cover. I think they're a very

521
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Speaker 2: good thing. They scored forty one unanswered points. I wish

522
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Speaker 2: cam Ward was able to finish this game. I wish

523
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Speaker 2: the Jags, maybe especially the key players that played a

524
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Speaker 2: little bit less in the second half.

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Speaker 3: But coach Cohen does as Coach Cohen does.

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Speaker 8: They are a very complete team in every phase. And

527
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Speaker 8: we've seen the run game work. So I actually believe

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Speaker 8: that at some point this thing pops loose again in

529
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Speaker 8: Basil two in.

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Speaker 4: A minute, I mean it's like once every four weeks

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Speaker 4: or so.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's there than they are, than they're due. They're

533
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Speaker 8: right on time for the playoffs. No, this is the thing.

534
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Speaker 8: Their past game is so diverse, and we've talked about this.

535
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Speaker 8: It's so layered with with Jacoby Myers getting into the

536
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Speaker 8: building and becoming the stabilizing force basically right up the

537
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Speaker 8: seam of that offense when he runs the most inbreakers

538
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Speaker 8: of anyone in the offense. Trevor Lawrence is the most

539
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Speaker 8: productive quarterback in the NFL on those in breakers, specifically

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Speaker 8: to Jacoby Myers, and every other piece around that spine

541
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Speaker 8: of the offense falls into place in these very specific

542
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Speaker 8: layers That's exactly how Liam Cohen wants to run this system.

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Speaker 8: And you see it with how every other player, uh

544
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Speaker 8: basically knows their role and is able to execute that

545
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Speaker 8: very effectively. And I think a lot of this too

546
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Speaker 8: is helps because of the defense and the way that

547
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Speaker 8: their defense has been playing all year. It is not

548
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Speaker 8: lost on me that we're going to get a Josh

549
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Speaker 8: Allen versus Josh heinesel this week.

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Speaker 4: Take your name back.

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Speaker 8: We've been we've been waiting for it. We've been waiting

552
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Speaker 8: for it, and we've been wanting it. And they also

553
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Speaker 8: the edge in my opinion on a lot of teams

554
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Speaker 8: and special teams. It's not just Parker Washington's dynamism in

555
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Speaker 8: the return game. It's also Cam Little right a fine

556
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Speaker 8: who hits a sixty seven yard field goal today. I

557
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Speaker 8: have to listen to it.

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Speaker 4: I just have to. I love that he's getting all

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Speaker 4: these records.

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Speaker 10: There's the hold, there's the kick, the sixty seven yard

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Speaker 10: field goal.

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Speaker 6: From sixty seven yards to the helf.

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Speaker 4: How good is that?

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Speaker 6: Jacksonville thirty one, Tennessee seven, Water just set the franchise

565
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Speaker 6: record for most points scoring in a season.

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Speaker 14: What's one hundred and thirty five.

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: What a lesson the cam Little is.

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Speaker 1: Cam Little says, get away from me. I've got a

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Speaker 1: celebration plan. I'm gonna execute that celebration. I don't want

571
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Speaker 1: you jumping all over me and ruining it. Just the

572
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Speaker 1: vibes are immaculate. And for these franchises that haven't won

573
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Speaker 1: as much lately, like the Jaguars, like a division championship

574
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: means a lot. You saw the players showing up to

575
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Speaker 1: the game on defense with these Anthony Campanili T shirts,

576
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Speaker 1: which I really appreciated, And you mentioned the defense they

577
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Speaker 1: are going into this week and it's going to improve.

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Speaker 1: They're seventh and DVO on defense and fifteenth on offense.

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Speaker 1: So for the course of the season, the defense has

580
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Speaker 1: actually been more consistent, even better than this passing game

581
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Speaker 1: in this offense, which has been peaking lately. But yes,

582
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: the vibes amazing. I think Trevor Lawrence's development has been

583
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Speaker 1: one of the big stories. And before we get out

584
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Speaker 1: of here, we have to enjoy the I guess culmination

585
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Speaker 1: of what's kind of been a meme in Jacksonville this week.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys were on this. Trevor

587
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: Lawrence grills. Watch that's been going on. But after the game,

588
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Speaker 1: Jerry and Jones gifted Trevor Lawrence some grills.

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Speaker 4: Some same you know, Trevor, because we appreciate it so

590
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 4: much for everything you do. I just want to know

591
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: all of Jacksonville behind you.

592
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: We know what's the mean that's kind.

593
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Speaker 16: Of going viral.

594
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 17: So we got.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Trevor getting it done and I guess, I guess it.

596
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Speaker 1: Basically an image was going around uh an Ai created

597
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Speaker 1: image of him with a grill, which makes me like

598
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Speaker 1: like this less But.

599
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 8: Back in our days, jacksires are anti Ai. Look at

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Speaker 8: that they did it for real.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's in real life. We had shop. I mean

602
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 4: that's the original one.

603
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Speaker 2: And also a very brisk application of the grill by

604
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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. I don't think that's the first time I did.

605
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: You know, famously Georgia resident and native.

606
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Speaker 4: Of that and he knew, he knew how to mean

607
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: mug for the camera. He made it all happen. I

608
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: love it.

609
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Speaker 1: It's a really fun matchup that we'll be talking all week.

610
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Speaker 1: Jaguars in bills And yeah, you mentioned the cam Ward injury.

611
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Speaker 1: It was reported by Jeff Howe of the athletic that

612
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Speaker 1: it was a Grade three AC joint spring. We'll see,

613
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Speaker 1: but that's that's that's the highest grade and that means

614
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Speaker 1: that that's a multi month injury. Will see if he

615
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Speaker 1: needs surgery or not. But a really disappointing way for

616
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Speaker 1: I think a promising rookie season to end. We'll see

617
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Speaker 1: what they do with their coaching moves that.

618
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Speaker 3: After he comes out.

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Speaker 2: That Brandon Allen snap was the first snap two a

620
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Speaker 2: quarterback that wasn't cam Ward.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, that's the seventh things comes back to

622
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Speaker 1: bite them. Mike McCoy, the interim head coach, was getting

623
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Speaker 1: some questions on the play call because it was a

624
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Speaker 1: called design run where he dives into the end zone.

625
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: I think he had an option to hand it off

626
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Speaker 1: on the play, but I think ultimately it's just it's

627
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Speaker 1: just bad luck. You can't kill him for calling a

628
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Speaker 1: football player or playing football. But as you say, the

629
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Speaker 1: injury rate in this league is one hundred percent. With

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars winning, the Texans were scoreboard watching the game's happening.

631
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Speaker 1: At the same time, the Texans are hoping, can we

632
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: sneak in it gets out of hand with the Jaguars

633
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: pretty early.

634
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: But does that stop Davis Mills and C. J.

635
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Speaker 3: Stroud.

636
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Speaker 4: It doesn't stop him.

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Speaker 18: Five seconds to go first down Colts at their twenty

638
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 18: five Letard over the middle. He goes to Josh Downs,

639
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 18: takes it across the thirty letters back to Pittman. Pittman

640
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 18: throws it back to Leonard and Letard is gonna be sacked.

641
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Speaker 18: He gets rid of the ball. Togy I picks it up.

642
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: Togy I crossed the five toky.

643
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Speaker 11: I into the end zone, touchdown Tommy togy I to

644
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 11: end the game and the Texans went there twelve.

645
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Speaker 4: What a way to finish the season. There was no

646
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Speaker 4: going down for Tommy togy I.

647
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Speaker 19: Tommy Togya was gonna house step baby, and that's exactly

648
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Speaker 19: what he did.

649
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Speaker 4: You give me a Tommy togi I, Mark Vandermir call

650
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Speaker 4: Dan the season, Santus come.

651
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Speaker 1: Late thirty eight to thirty Texans win over the Colts. Yes,

652
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: that was, as it's lovingly called.

653
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: A pitchy pitchy woo woo play.

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Speaker 1: There by the Colts down two points at the end

655
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Speaker 1: after my guy, Davis Mills did something that he did

656
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Speaker 1: for a third time this season. Patrick, He was given

657
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Speaker 1: the ball with a chance to go on a game

658
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Speaker 1: winning drive, and you know what he did.

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Speaker 3: He does what Davis Mills does.

660
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Speaker 4: He went on a game winning drive. And let Kayamie

661
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 4: Fairbairn do the rest.

662
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: Ye NFL Daily Kicking Star Kayami Fairburn don't need to highlight,

663
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: you know, any other particular kicker.

664
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Speaker 4: What do we make of this game where C. J.

665
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: Stroud plays the first half and they're watching the scoreboard,

666
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: but the game is close. Riley Leonard's playing well, the

667
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: like Derek Stingley's getting cooked by Alec Pierce, like a

668
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: lot's going on. It was actually just a good football game.

669
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: And then the Texans kind of call off the dogs

670
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: and take a lot of the starters out in the

671
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: second half, but it still ends up going back and forth, I.

672
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: Think, and again, you know, perhaps on bias, and I

673
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 2: don't necessarily like the Dave Canalis of it all. Take

674
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: it off the scoreboard, not pay attention, right, we're doing

675
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: all this other stuff to the antithesis of the Jacksonville

676
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: Jaguars were actually in that game blowing out the Tennessee Titan.

677
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: You know, coach looks up and sees that it's thirty

678
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: thirty five to seven at point and says, all right,

679
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: there's no need for us to have our starting quarterback

680
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: in the game. A lot of other guys going to

681
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 2: the sideline, but they get everything they want. Jayden Higgins,

682
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: his ascension has continued. Where Nico Collins was chilling on

683
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: the sideline and street clothes for this game. He had

684
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: a nice touchdown, they were able to get lassiter or

685
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: some rest. He had a knee and ankle injury. That

686
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: leads to that first big Alec Pierce play. Because it's

687
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: Tremon Smith over there, and as he said, Sting's having

688
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: trouble covering Alex Pierce, breaking news. Everybody's having trouble cover

689
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 2: and Alec Pierce who went off today. And I think

690
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: the major takeaway other than you know, Davis Mills performing

691
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: excellently in Davis Mills's role, is the benefit of hindsight

692
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: to to look back and.

693
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 4: Say, see, I see that little backhanded compliment there.

694
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: On a day where we were discussing, you know, Brandon

695
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 2: Allen's rankings among the QB three.

696
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 8: People were pretty excited about that.

697
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 4: Not me, not you, but some people some people.

698
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: But I do think, right, it's an opportunity to look back,

699
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: not with hindsight, because it was foresight for a lot

700
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: of people. Riley Leonard should have started more than this

701
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: last game for the Indianapolis Colts in terms that he

702
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: not only hit those deep shots, which was something the

703
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: offense really didn't have an option for.

704
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers.

705
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: He had a keeper on the on the inline where

706
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: he breaks the tackle and gets into the end zone.

707
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: Ryley Leonard had them in this game to a to

708
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: a great extent where we were questioning if it was

709
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: fair for him to make his first start against the

710
00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: Houston Texans defense.

711
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: It looked pretty good with that.

712
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: No, I think I'm not gonna second guess that they

713
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: did the Philip Rivers thing to begin with. I think

714
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: that's fair to do considering how good Leonard looked at

715
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: the game.

716
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: Did get hurt previously before me.

717
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 8: I think the knee was a bigger deal than they

718
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 8: let on. I remember that was my game when we

719
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 8: covered that, and it was the way that Riley Leonard

720
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 8: wants to play, which he showed today and really talented

721
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 8: in my opinion, especially with the ability to run. It

722
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 8: was pretty clear that was going to be an issue,

723
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 8: and there I.

724
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: Thought he might miss that one week.

725
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: I do think though, that they should have just had

726
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: Ryley Leonard ready to go last week because they knew

727
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: there was a chance that they were going to get eliminated.

728
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: Because I actually think Riley Leonard played well enough to

729
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: be in the conversation to be their week one starter

730
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: next year, to just be in the mix because Daniel

731
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: Jones isn't going to be ready for the start next season.

732
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: That's assuming he's even on the roster, which I'm not

733
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: necessarily assuming. We have learned since this game ended that

734
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: Chris Balor, their general manager, and Shane Steiken, their head coach,

735
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: will be back. It was essentially announced by the team

736
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: and sent out through all the insiders that both of

737
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: them are going to be back. So you know, Riley

738
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: Leonard is gonna be in this same offense, and it

739
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: would have been really valuable to get more data on him,

740
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: because he looked good enough. Patrick, you watched this game

741
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: closer like he looked good enough in this game, running, passing,

742
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: decision making to think like, okay, maybe we get like

743
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: an okay, like veteran that could be the weak one starter.

744
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: But actually there's a good chance it's Riley Leonard until

745
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is back, and you'd feel a lot better

746
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: making that evaluation if you had let's say three games

747
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: of games to go through and see rather than just

748
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: like this one incredible performance, and.

749
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: Then you can figure out what we can attribute the

750
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: bad place to. Is that just a rookie having things

751
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: go the other way? Because there's a play in this

752
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: game where Leonard is trying to throw a jump pass

753
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: and he checks wings on it, but the problem is

754
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: he threw the ball backwards anyway, The Texans were able

755
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: to recover within the five yard line and CJ. Stroud

756
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: has a rushing touchdown right after that. To try to

757
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: figure out, well, are these things the rookie is just

758
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: doing because he's a rookie. Is this a long term trend?

759
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: We don't know that. Because we got an extra opportunity

760
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 3: to watch Philip Rivers playful.

761
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 4: It was fun though, and who knows. It was reported

762
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: by Ian Rappaport that multiple teams are potentially interested in

763
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers as a head coach. Now potentially the Colts

764
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 4: are not one of those teams because they're keeping they're

765
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: keeping Shane Steiken.

766
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't know that they want to talk to Philip Rivers.

767
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: That was that was a surprising report, to say the least.

768
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: Your boy Alec Pierce, by the way, who's going to

769
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: be very close to the top of the top one

770
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: to one free agency list when it comes out topped

771
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: one hundred, I mean a thousand yards on the season

772
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: by going over one hundred today, so he was their

773
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: number one receiver, gets over a thousand yards. He ended

774
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: up averaging twenty one point three yards per catch in

775
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: the year of our lord, twenty twenty five slash sticks.

776
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: I guess now that was.

777
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: More than three and a half yards more than anyone

778
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: else in the league. And it's on pretty good volume.

779
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: He there's really no one else doing it quite like

780
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: our guy Alec Pierce, or Davis Mills for that matter.

781
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: Going three for nine but getting his like third game

782
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: winning drive again, I'm joking.

783
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 4: I'm joking.

784
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying, no one's doing it like him, where he's

785
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: going three for nine, Baghetti another game winning drive.

786
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: And we thought, you know, is the volume would go

787
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: up and Alec Pierce will become more of a part

788
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: of the offense, the short offense.

789
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: Well he's going to lose that opportunity. No, No, still

790
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: gets buckets, steep and don't.

791
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: I don't take much out of the Texans defense having

792
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: some issues. We'll talk about them during this week, what

793
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: do we think?

794
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: And I think we'll get into the conversation about the

795
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: Colts and deciding to keep Steak, Stiking and Ballard a

796
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: little deeper. On Monday show, They're going to have a

797
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: press conference and we'll cover that, but just quick reactions

798
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: off of them keeping stikeing Ballard.

799
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 8: I'm not surprised, you know. I spent some time out

800
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 8: there earlier this month for a profile on Carly or

801
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 8: Say Gordon, the owner who made ultimately decision along with

802
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 8: her two sisters who are who co owned the team

803
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 8: along with her. It takes I look at the landscape

804
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 8: of this coaching cycle and it's a lot of retread coaches,

805
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 8: and it is a lot of really inexperienced coordinators who

806
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 8: would be first time coaches. I think Shane Steiken showed

807
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 8: that he can, that he has a lot of potential

808
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 8: when they do get the quarterback, right. I think that

809
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 8: Chris Ballard because of what they've built, not only the

810
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 8: incredibly like open dialogue that they have with each other

811
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 8: and with Shane Steiken, but also you don't want a

812
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 8: coach coming in with a you don't want to keep

813
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 8: a coach and then bring in a new GM or

814
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 8: vice versa. You don't want an overhang situation. And you

815
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 8: also have, really, despite their lack of playoff wins, one

816
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 8: of the deeper and more respected scouting and executive departments.

817
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 8: That all goes if Chris Ballard goes as well, and

818
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 8: you have I don't know that there's a gmca it

819
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 8: out there right now capable of building that as quickly

820
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 8: as they want to win with this roster and potentially

821
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 8: with probably with Daniel Jones, got to be able to.

822
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: Acquire some more talent on the defensive side of the ball,

823
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: get that sorted out.

824
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: You have coach lou with with a chance to.

825
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Get some guys well with all these losses, their draft

826
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: pick gets high.

827
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 4: Wait now, so here's the thing.

828
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: Carly Gordon Nurse approved that sas Gardner trade, and I

829
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: didn't think it was interrational, big swing for the Fences

830
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: at the time.

831
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 4: This was the ultimate win now type of team.

832
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: Because they're an aging roster, a lot of contracts are

833
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: coming up this offseason, especially last offseason, I mean next offseason,

834
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: so I think continuity does make sense, especially because you

835
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: have a real deal offensive coach in stich In, and

836
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: do you really want to start over as a GM

837
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: do you want to hire from within? None of that

838
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: really ended up making up sense. So they're going to

839
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: be another win now team next year. But they go

840
00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: for continuity and they get the win. So we talked Texans,

841
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: we talked Colts. Now let's get to those Patriots who

842
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: are playing in the late window, knowing they needed to

843
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: win because Jacksonville won earlier in the day to at

844
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: least get that two seed.

845
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: Pile Woods, the.

846
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 20: Rookie receiver, lock high formation first and ten gifts Stevenson.

847
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 6: Crunch through the middle of the count. Tell you what

848
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 6: fifteen to ten, the five spin around, take it into

849
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 6: the episode. Steve Warner's Katy pull the Patriots touchdown. Unbelievable,

850
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 6: Barbara Mandre here in these last three weeks. Yeah, the

851
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 6: way the stake shakes out. If you do secure it

852
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 6: up a two seed, you gotta give him a lot

853
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 6: of credit here.

854
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: That's a good call by Scott Zolac and Bob soci

855
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: on wb Z.

856
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: They're all good call.

857
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: I shouldn't sound so surprised. Ramandre's return has been a thing.

858
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: What a weird up and down career he has had

859
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: for a fifth year running back. Like the high has

860
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: have been exceptionally high. He got a monster contract. At

861
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: times he looks like a top ten running back in

862
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: the league. The lows been extremely low, like he usually

863
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: running backs don't get into such big slumps. But he

864
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: is on a heater right now. He is breaking a

865
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: tackle almost every touch. He touched the ball nine times

866
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday and then he got one hundred and fifty

867
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: three yards and three touchdowns. Mike Rable didn't get the

868
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: memo that you were supposed to be stat padding for

869
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: Drake May's MVP candidacy because he just didn't need to.

870
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: They just ran the ball down the Dolphins throats all

871
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: day long. Thirty eight to ten was the final score.

872
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: They go for four hundred and over four hundred and

873
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: fifty yards that the starters stayed in more or less throughout.

874
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs came in very late in this game and

875
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: they made sure they ensured the two seed. And I

876
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: think the running game is going to be really big

877
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: for them in the playoffs. And Treveon Henderson also looked

878
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: great in this game, and I think it's not a

879
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: small thing that Will Campbell was back on the left

880
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: side road grading down the field.

881
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 8: They're healed by Bake Miss.

882
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: Yes, Will Campbell has earned the smile on Greg Rosenhal's face.

883
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: He did it mission accomplished for the Patriots top ten pick.

884
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: See Remandre be. The explosive part of the run game

885
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: was nice because I don't think this was all the

886
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: fens kind of being in Cancun on three mode.

887
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 4: I don't know they might have been.

888
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: The first drive was three rushes and sixty five yards

889
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: and one of those rushes was like a four yard touchdown,

890
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: so it was like, you know, it was it was

891
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: kind of ridiculous. They were just taking turns. Through their

892
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: first two drives, they were averaging thirteen yards per play

893
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that must have fallen off

894
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: big when you you know, end up having sixty to

895
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: seventy steps. Nope, I mean they was still were over

896
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: eight yards per play on this game. And even though

897
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: Drake May didn't light up like the box score, it

898
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: actually was kind of a typical Drake May game. So

899
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: if he does win MVP, he'll have done it in

900
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 1: a unique way. He only throws the ball eighteen times

901
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: in this game. But he has a thirty yarder, a

902
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: thirty two yard or another thirty yarder, a one hundred

903
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: and ninety one yards, and he runs the ball for

904
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: forty yards in this game.

905
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: That's why the comp for Drake May is not Josh Allen.

906
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 3: The comp for Drake May is Lamar Jacks.

907
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: I agree. I agree as a runner it's not, but

908
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 4: I agree.

909
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: The way that they he targets guys down the field,

910
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: in the way that the offense where there was big

911
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: stretches of this game where like, well, the Dolphins are

912
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: still in this hold on and then all of a sudden,

913
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: the Patriots have forty points because that's what they do.

914
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: They score points in bunches. They get buckets, and it's good.

915
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: It's good football to watch.

916
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had four different plays of at least twenty

917
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: yard Efton Chisholm goes for a thirty five yarder like

918
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: Jefon Diggs goes down the field, and it kind of

919
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: did feel like one two three kin Kun for the

920
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: Dolphins defense. On the other side, you know, quinn Ewers

921
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: moved the ball very well for about two and a

922
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: half quarters. It sort of fell off a cliff after that.

923
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: He looked good, but they had no real running game.

924
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: A Milton Williams was also back on the field.

925
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 4: Which is a big deal.

926
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, huge deal the Patriots because as explosive as their

927
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 8: offense can be, their defense has really struggled. So having

928
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 8: him back ahead of this playoff run that they make

929
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 8: is going to be huge. And it does not escape

930
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 8: me how tough of a matchup this game is coming up.

931
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 8: I know we'll previewed on the show, but going up

932
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 8: against Jesse Minter's defense with the Los Angeles Chargers that

933
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 8: do not allow explosive passing plays. They have allowed I

934
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 8: think three pass plays of thirty plus air yards this

935
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 8: entire season touchdowns, I mean this entire season. They do

936
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 8: not allow explosives. So the Patriots are going to have

937
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 8: to lean on this re emerged run game. They're going

938
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 8: to have to lean on biting away underneath and win

939
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 8: in different ways. And that's what I think A real

940
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 8: playoff team is.

941
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: Going to be really fun matchup where I think both

942
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: the Patriots and the Chargers fans and the teams could

943
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: be looking at the other and thinking, oh, that's the

944
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: matchup I want. Yeah, which is a weird place to be,

945
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: but almost almost the entire AFC to me is just

946
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: it's just like some dyce in in a jar, you know,

947
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: you just it doesn't really you have no idea. I'm

948
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: trying to think of that game Boggle or whatever. I'm

949
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: mixing metaphors here, Bigael. It's just don't know what's gonna

950
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: You don't know what's gonna pop up, like none of

951
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: there is no AFC result literally except for the Steelers

952
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: making the super Bowl that would surprise me. Basically, that

953
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: Steelers winning more than one game. That would Nothing else

954
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: would would remotely surprise me. But the Patriots get it done,

955
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: and they've been very good down the stretch at just

956
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: blowing bad teams out, one of the league leaders in

957
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: point differential. So there's a lot of blowouts in the AFC.

958
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to these big NFC games in a minute.

959
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: But the Bills did say goodbye to Ralph Wilson Stadium

960
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: on Sunday. That's what we call it the Ralph and

961
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: they did it in style, even if Josh Allen only

962
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: took one snap.

963
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 21: I formation here from the Bills fourth and goal from

964
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 21: the two and now kill the emotions.

965
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: To the right wing.

966
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 21: Coach it for the tight end law to Forubisky back

967
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 21: to pass looking right now, back to the left, back.

968
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 11: To the middle, and Gabe Davis just lost the defender

969
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 11: for a Juilliard touchdown reception.

970
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 4: He reached over him, pulled the ball back and.

971
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 21: Gabe Davis is having his biggest night since he put

972
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 21: the Bill's uniform back on this season.

973
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: What are you laughing at the.

974
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 8: Fists? Just like he was so just that was great.

975
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 4: Let Gabe Davis have his moment.

976
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, great. And Mitch Dubisky a part of the Ralphs

977
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 8: legacy forever.

978
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: He really is, because I mean it's not a joke

979
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: because this game, this game will live forever. And it's

980
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: great what this Bills team did in a thirty five

981
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: to eight win. They got out to a thirty five

982
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: to nothing lead against the Jets. And I know, the

983
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: Jets are one of the most pathetic teams I've ever

984
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: seen down the stretch. I mean, they're literally the first

985
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: team in the Super Bowl era to lose fight games

986
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: by at least twenty one points just by scoring, which

987
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: is how we measure things in this sport. They are

988
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: the worst team in the final, like five weeks of

989
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: a season ever. But that said, the Bills benched everyone.

990
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: Their offensive line wasn't playing. They weren't even active for

991
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: this game. Josh Allen played one snap, James Cook had

992
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: a couple carries to start the game, then they benched

993
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: him like no one was really playing in this game.

994
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: And they put up four hundred and seventy yards and

995
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: it was an absolute celebration for the last like quarter

996
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: of this game, and I just think that was cool.

997
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: Like after the game, they show Tredevious White looking up

998
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: at the big board and they're playing Iris.

999
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 22: Iris by thee and everyone in the crowd is singing

1000
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 22: and they're showing so many different fans crying, and it

1001
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 22: just wouldn't have hit the same way if they had

1002
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 22: lost that game.

1003
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 4: So it turned out into like a three hour party.

1004
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 4: So I think Mitchrubisky for his service.

1005
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, contribution to the effort does not go unnoticed or

1006
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 8: unvalued by the fine folks at NFL Daily. What a

1007
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 8: cool see to me. Week eighteen. I think has been

1008
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 8: stuff and nonsense for a lot of people, and some

1009
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 8: of these games feel so pointless at times, but that

1010
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 8: feeling and watching the fans get their moment, Fans who

1011
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 8: have shoveled snow out of those seats, Fans.

1012
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 4: Who have literally for this game, which was very fitting.

1013
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 4: They had the last call.

1014
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: I get texts from the bills, you know, because I'm

1015
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: just on the notifications list or whatever. It's like twenty

1016
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: dollars an hour. Anyone want to come over to high

1017
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: Mark Stadium and start shoving them?

1018
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 8: Absolutely, fans who and our producer Eric is one of them.

1019
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 8: We're lucky to catch a game that has been at

1020
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 8: a place that has been such a part of their

1021
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 8: journey through their life and their partners' lives and their kids' lives,

1022
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 8: and heartbreak in that stadium and joy in that stadium

1023
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 8: and watching them discover this superhuman core and what he

1024
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 8: could do in that stadium, and I just you know,

1025
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 8: I love that they sent the Ralph out this way.

1026
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 8: I love that Week eighteen, for as nonsensical as it

1027
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 8: can feel at times, was just all feeling and such

1028
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 8: a joy ride for those fans with a little bittersweetness

1029
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 8: tinged at the end to and.

1030
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: A great decision to have the throwback red helmets, yeah

1031
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: on where everybody's decked out, and you know, you see

1032
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: all kinds of situations where you're critical of wearing old

1033
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: and weird jerseys where you could rock that JP Lossman

1034
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: Bill's jersey.

1035
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 4: Now you can't. Now you can't. You're never allowed to

1036
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: rock the JP Lostmans. If you want to do EJ.

1037
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: Manuel who carried himself well, and there were some moments,

1038
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: you can do it, JP Lossman, you're not allowed.

1039
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 4: Never.

1040
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 3: JP. I'm sorry. If you're listening, it's going to take

1041
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: a Tomahawks whistle to you.

1042
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: You know, we're both two lane grads. We have that

1043
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 4: in coming.

1044
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: There was a moment where they were doing mister Brightside

1045
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: and your friend Catherine Fitzgerald, who covers the team, she

1046
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: noted a very theatrical moment where Spencer Brown, the tackle,

1047
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: had his cape ripped off right at the moment where

1048
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: you know they're saying he takes off her dress now,

1049
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: and it was like choreograph with all the players.

1050
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 4: It was just it was just a thing.

1051
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 1: And Ray Davis shout out to Ray Davis, one hundred

1052
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: and fifty one yards on the ground. If you watch

1053
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: our great show Game Devut, that was my prop for

1054
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: the week that he goes over I think twenty nine yards.

1055
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 4: I mean that's easy. First drive.

1056
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: He had it, Neil, There's not much left to say

1057
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: in this game because I want to save some time

1058
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: for all these great NFC games. Bill's Jaguars is gonna

1059
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: be awesome, and I think ultimately the Bills have to

1060
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: feel really good about the fact that they got to

1061
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: rest Josh Allen and so many key players in this game,

1062
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: and that Dalton Kincaid, who was one of the real starters,

1063
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: played and played well in this game, and his health

1064
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: the entering the playoffs because he's been so important for them. Okay,

1065
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: that's the AFC. We've got the matchups all set. We

1066
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: hear by the way that Aaron Glenn is safe according

1067
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: to the insiders.

1068
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 4: That's one where I just keep hearing it and I

1069
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 4: don't know.

1070
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: I just it wouldn't surprise me if that was a

1071
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: surprise one. But we keep hearing that he's safe, and

1072
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 1: so we'll have to assume until proven otherwise.

1073
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 3: That is true.

1074
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: One game that featured no coaches on the hot seat.

1075
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: In fact, two coaches that I think we're going against

1076
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: each other potentially for the Coach of the Year award.

1077
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: There are a lot of great candidates, but to me,

1078
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: going into Week eighteen, the best two candidates were Mike

1079
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: McDonald and Kyle Shanahan. Let's go back to the Saturday

1080
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: game and set up how the entire NFC slate was

1081
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: broken down. First with that battle for the number one seed.

1082
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: Sharbona and the backfield.

1083
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 20: On third down and two, Donald under center, long count

1084
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 20: turns hands to Sharks find.

1085
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 10: Some running rom bounces it outside, but here he comes

1086
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:04,959
Speaker 10: twenty fifteen cut back in some ten fut touchdown. Seyhawks

1087
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 10: Zack Charbonay from twenty seven out, his twelfth rushing touchdown

1088
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:13,959
Speaker 10: of the season.

1089
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: Fitting call who's the run game. When the Seahawks can

1090
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: run the ball, they look like the best team in football.

1091
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they looked like the best team in football

1092
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: any old time. But when they run the ball, they

1093
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: just look especially unstoppable. The Seahawks win thirteen to three

1094
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: in a score that doesn't flatter their offense. I think

1095
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: they were a little more effective than the score would indicate.

1096
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: That was Steve Rabel, by the way, little help from

1097
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman on k I R. This was a game

1098
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: where the Seahawks defense made sure Jordan that they got

1099
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: the one seed. They are really as great as the

1100
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: Texans have been in the AFC, the Seahawks have been

1101
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: that good, maybe even better in the NFC, and this

1102
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: was their best performance.

1103
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 8: This defense, which is an absolute marvel to watch, has

1104
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 8: this incredible ability because of the way that they play

1105
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 8: in their sub packages a larger nickel, a larger dime personnel,

1106
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 8: a fast personnel. In those perceived sub packages, they stay

1107
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 8: in them the entire time, and they neutralize any sort

1108
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 8: of alternative, heavier personnel that you want to use on them,

1109
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 8: whether it is a fullback in Kyle us Check and

1110
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 8: George Kittle and the tight end, or if you want

1111
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 8: to use two tight ends or anything that you throw

1112
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 8: at this Seattle group. Not only do they completely neutralize

1113
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 8: any of the little cute seat like trickeration scheme things

1114
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 8: that you want to do, but they just keep coming

1115
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 8: after you. It's like Michael Myers in one of these

1116
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 8: horror movies, where you could literally run a bus into

1117
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 8: it and it will still keep coming after you.

1118
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: You could.

1119
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 8: Hey, by the way, finally, if you're the forty nine ers,

1120
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 8: get inside the Seattle thirty yard line for the first

1121
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 8: time all game, deep into the contest, and yet here

1122
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 8: comes the Sea Seattle defense because brock Perty made his

1123
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 8: best throw of the game to Juwan Jennings to get

1124
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 8: to the Seahawks nine yard line, and a play later,

1125
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 8: Christian McCaffrey bobbles a pass, it gets tipped, it's intercepted.

1126
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 8: If you go down even one score to this Seattle team,

1127
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 8: that is their A plus plan to keep you smothered,

1128
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 8: whether it's their own ball control on offense or their defense,

1129
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 8: and you are eliminated from the game before you can

1130
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 8: even get started.

1131
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 4: They're one of the best defenses I think we've seen

1132
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 4: in a while.

1133
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 8: I almost hit Patrick there, like I got.

1134
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 4: Their physicality in this game.

1135
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: It's not like the forty nine ers offense didn't want

1136
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: it or anything, but they just weren't in a good position,

1137
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: like they kept catching the ball and then they would

1138
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: be absolutely leveled, like they they could have two of

1139
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: the like all Pro team defensive tackles, the DeMarcus Lawrence

1140
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: could be in that mix. And then the secondary's outrageous

1141
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: that Rake Riek Wollin, who's just playing lights out down

1142
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 1: the stretch is their six defensive back. And as you mentioned,

1143
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: not leaving the field. What really stuck with me when

1144
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: I thought about this, like big picture. Patrick was like,

1145
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: this is literally the reason why Mike McDonald was hired.

1146
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: It's why he's my coach of the Year, is that

1147
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: it's so clearly his vision of how to play defense.

1148
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be the Shanahan McVay stopper. And

1149
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: I know you can say, oh, well, they like racked

1150
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: up all these yards on McDonald last time. They had

1151
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: situational big plays, but they also held them to under

1152
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty yards. The other time they played

1153
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: the rams like he came with a job to do

1154
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: and like he did it. Holding this forty nine ers

1155
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: team to three points is just masterful. Only nine first downs.

1156
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: CMC could not get it going on the ground. There

1157
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: was really like nowhere that they could turn.

1158
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even when CMC did get free, the things

1159
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 2: went the other way where that was not necessarily The

1160
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: game hinged on that play, But the margins were so

1161
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: slim for the forty nine ers and they weren't coming

1162
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: into the end. Before the game, before I knew Trent

1163
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: Williams wasn't gonna play, I thought this was gonna have

1164
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: to be a Kyle Shanahan masterpiece. He was gonna have

1165
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: to be calling plays from the astral plane to do

1166
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 2: what they needed to do. In this one where you

1167
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 2: mentioned the for the Seahawks and the talent for the Seahawks,

1168
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: where Leonard Williams only had to play thirty snaps, de

1169
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: Marcus Lawrence only had to play twenty seven snaps. Wow,

1170
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: they have this capacity to be smothering and get guys

1171
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: in where it's Jaron reid On like his fourth pass

1172
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: reds of the game, get a whole bunch of pressure

1173
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 2: on brock Party where the options were really limited for

1174
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: Brock and they weren't necessarily getting the separation that they

1175
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: were used to during their streak of winning the game

1176
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: scoring all those.

1177
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: Points, and because it was complimentary football, because the run

1178
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: game was great in this game, it wasn't like as

1179
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: consistent success rate wise, but still very successful overall.

1180
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 4: They run for one hundred and eighty yards.

1181
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: There was a key play where Kenneth Walker gets eighteen

1182
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: yards on third and seventeen that to me just felt

1183
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: like an absolute backbreaker and it's only ten to three

1184
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: at that portion of the game, but man Walker runs

1185
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: with such suddenness and just Sharboney gets seventy four yards

1186
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: in this game too, and breaks a lot of tackles

1187
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: and gets that touchdown. It's a great one two punch.

1188
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: And it was without Charles Cross, who signed a big

1189
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: contract by the way, on Sunday, and they expect him

1190
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: back for the playoffs. It's it's not a consistent offensive line,

1191
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: but I thought this was a good enough offensive performance

1192
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: and they manage the game well against you know, a

1193
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: lackluster forty nine ers.

1194
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1195
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 8: The point I made on social media was it's hard

1196
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 8: to find a weakness in Seattle when they run the

1197
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 8: ball like this. That's those That's a key phrase there,

1198
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 8: because running the ball like that, not only you could

1199
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 8: play total ball control and set up your defense to

1200
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 8: also do so against an offense and have that sort

1201
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 8: of handshake smothering principle that they do, but also you

1202
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 8: are hiding and you're mitigating pressure that could otherwise rattle

1203
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 8: your quarterback. And it's just a fact it has for

1204
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 8: Sam Darnold.

1205
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 4: Oh if been in the first half of this game.

1206
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 4: I do not think he played a good first half

1207
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 4: of this game.

1208
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 8: But the key is is he doesn't have to play

1209
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 8: this you know, crazy quarterback island, where the game right like,

1210
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 8: he can run the offense way that is fantastic because

1211
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 8: they they lean on him, they look to him to lead.

1212
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 8: You hear every player talking about it in the locker

1213
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 8: room post game, and I think it's a real credit

1214
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 8: where you don't have a quarterback who all the time

1215
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 8: feels like he has to play hero ball. He's playing

1216
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 8: the type of football that this team needs him to

1217
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 8: play right now. When the run game is working the

1218
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 8: way that it is, it is such a complete team.

1219
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 8: They don't need to put up, you know, twenty five

1220
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 8: points thirty points a game because their defense is going

1221
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 8: to It's a team built around the defense and their

1222
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 8: run game. This is a Koubiak Mike McDonald team. It's

1223
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 8: built around the run game in the defense.

1224
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: You know how I know I'm a small person, like

1225
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: literally and figuratively is because after the game, it really

1226
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: struck me as funny when they're like it's like the

1227
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: defense gave up, you know, in my mind, like the

1228
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: defense gave up three points. They ran for one hundred

1229
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: and eighty yards. And the big takeaway from the game

1230
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: was like Sam Donald did it? What a story SA Darnald.

1231
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 8: Like he not on this check.

1232
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: He managed to do it.

1233
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: Defense nine first downs against the best offense and w

1234
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: greg with one hundred and eighty yards. But he was

1235
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: he played the right brand of football in the second

1236
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: half where he made some plays out of structure and

1237
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: he ran with his leg. I thought he played a

1238
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: good game in the second half. And like I said,

1239
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: I thought the offense overall was kind of underrated this

1240
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: game because, yeah, they possessed the ball for most of

1241
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: the game and he obviously is a big part of it.

1242
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: And to start the highlight with the charbon a rushing touchdown,

1243
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: that's just a regular If they want to run a

1244
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: run play and it's just a regular ISO play, it's

1245
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: Zach Sharbonay. When they need something weird to happen, it's

1246
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker and the third down conversion not fluky. At

1247
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: third and long. Kenneth Walker has the most yards in

1248
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 2: the entire NFL on third and long. Wow, third and

1249
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: seven or more, he averages ten point nine yards period.

1250
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 3: He gets buckets.

1251
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 8: That's incredible.

1252
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 4: He's such a unique talent.

1253
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: He's a really interesting free agent coming up because I

1254
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: don't know if Seattle is gonna pay him the top

1255
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: dollar when they have Charbonnade there, maybe they think they

1256
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: can replace him. Uh, he's someone I would like to

1257
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: sign if I was running a team. Let's look at

1258
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: the picture after the game. Here's where Donald really shine,

1259
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: because I do believe that his teammates really love him.

1260
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: I just thought this was a great selfie. I'm not

1261
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: great at taking selfies by Jalen Milroe. Of just the

1262
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: three different types of quarterbacks that you can have, Jalen Milroe,

1263
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, and Drew Locke.

1264
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 4: And yeah they were. They were smoking cigars in that

1265
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 4: in that locker room and everyone's having a good time.

1266
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 4: Sam Donald. He's a leader of men.

1267
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: He is what he's now the only quarterback who's won

1268
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: like twenty seven games in two years, two different teams.

1269
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: If not for if not for a bad night in Minnesota.

1270
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: Uh been back to back once, Nald.

1271
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 8: Listen, you're gonna have to go through not just this

1272
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 8: Seattle defense, which again, God forbid you even go down

1273
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 8: a field goal to these guys, right because anything any

1274
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 8: neutral or advantage by point keeps them in their A

1275
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 8: plus defensive plan. But also you're going up against that

1276
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 8: Seattle crowd and the elements that are sure to be

1277
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 8: unfolding as they host the ride on the way Here

1278
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 8: a lot.

1279
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: Of different ways that the NFC playoffs can shake out.

1280
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: For as much talk of that the AFC is wide open,

1281
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: I think that's true in terms of who makes it

1282
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: to the end. I'd still be a little surprised if

1283
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: it's not the Rams or Seahawks that win the NFC.

1284
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: But I do think on a like a matchup basis,

1285
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: it's pretty wide open. But there is one route which

1286
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me, where the Seahawks never play out of

1287
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: the NFC West, that the forty nine Ers win this

1288
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: next weekend, and that it's the forty nine Ers that

1289
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: come to Seattle for a rematch in two weeks, and

1290
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: then it's the Rams in the NFC Championship game. It

1291
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: could be like an all NFC West run. This has

1292
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: really been an epic division. Jackson Smith and Jigba wrapped

1293
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: up a historic season. I would say, just absolutely ridiculous.

1294
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: And if you remember before the game, Diamino or Leonore

1295
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: talk about how he wanted to match up one on

1296
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: one throughout the game, that didn't really happen, but a

1297
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: couple of times it happens. And JSN got a touchdown

1298
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: about it and was asked about Lenora's comments.

1299
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I definitely definitely heard it.

1300
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's.

1301
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 7: It's it's hard to respond back to all my fans,

1302
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 7: but you know I knew that we were going to

1303
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 7: see him today and take care of business.

1304
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 4: It's the delivery, right, It's just amazing.

1305
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 8: Just a very small smile before you decide. I'm just

1306
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 8: gonna let it rim.

1307
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: Different sides of the ball, different eras, different techniques. Yes,

1308
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: does can't respond to all my fans get up to

1309
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: don't ever try me with a sorry receiver like crab t.

1310
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 4: I think it was in terms of this rivalry. I mean,

1311
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 4: it's not going to live on that much. I mean

1312
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 4: it'll live on. We're gonna make sure it lives.

1313
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: That And that is maybe the most famous postgame interview

1314
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: of my lifetime, that Richard Truman.

1315
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 4: But that is a great callback.

1316
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: By the way, Jackson Smith and Jibe finishes with one

1317
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen catches and seventeen hundred and ninety three yards.

1318
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: Just an outrageous performance by him and a great job again.

1319
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, he is my choice partly because went for

1320
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: a fourth down early in this game.

1321
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 4: I think he knew what type of game it was.

1322
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 4: He trusted his defense.

1323
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: It didn't work one time near the goal line, and

1324
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: it worked a different time whereas Kyle Shanahan was punting

1325
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: around midfield on fourth and too, I don't think he

1326
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: trusted his offense, and who can blame him? So that

1327
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: was That was the Saturday night game, and that established,

1328
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, the NFC West Championship and the one seed.

1329
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: Let's go to the NFC South Championship or was it

1330
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: to Tampa.

1331
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 19: Three seconds left in the game, Bucks trying to keep

1332
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 19: our play all division title hopes alive. The staff chuff's

1333
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 19: time dropping you loooking, Yim Young gets the Catchlade.

1334
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 3: The hook and launderle.

1335
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 19: They laddle the ball back to the left side and

1336
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 19: a ted roll of hell and folks at Lowishubble Chris

1337
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 19: Pubble the swoons Bucks come up with it and the

1338
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 19: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Buccaneers have come up with the

1339
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 19: ball on the final play of the game, the final

1340
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 19: play of regulation, and Tampa Bay will beat Carolina sixteen

1341
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 19: to fourteen.

1342
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 4: A final game winning call there by Geene decker Hoff.

1343
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 4: It's you know, you guys know who went to the

1344
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 4: plays at this point. If you're listening to this recap show.

1345
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: But at the time we didn't know if Geene decker Hoff,

1346
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: the great radio man, was going to get another chance.

1347
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: If nothing else, at least he's going out on a win.

1348
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: That was him on w FU s Buccaneers survive sixteen

1349
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: to fourteen.

1350
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 4: They stopped the slide.

1351
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: It was the result that I wanted because I wanted

1352
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: the NFC South to come down to Falcon Saints on

1353
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, and it did and we're going to do

1354
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: that game next But to set that up, the Buccaneers

1355
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: had to go and get a win, and for the

1356
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: first time in a long time, Baker Ball was rolling.

1357
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 8: Baby sort of, I guess a little, I know, kind of,

1358
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 8: I think, so yeah, you know, I mean, he picked

1359
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 8: he first quarter, He scrambled some too, and he picked

1360
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 8: up some some key yards it, you know, made a

1361
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 8: couple of perimeter throws that were good, and I thought

1362
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 8: what he did a really nice job of early was

1363
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 8: taking what the defense was giving him. He wasn't trying

1364
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 8: to force the ball into bad spots. He wasn't making

1365
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 8: bad decisions with the football. Because what a Giro Everro's

1366
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 8: defense likes to do is it likes to fool you

1367
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 8: and dare you to throw the explosive play where they

1368
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 8: actually do have two pretty good ball hawking corners on

1369
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 8: the perimeter, and instead, what it wants to do is

1370
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 8: make you bite away underneath their zone piece by piece,

1371
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 8: and Baker I think did a good job of that

1372
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 8: early on.

1373
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: You know, he averaged almost ten yards per throw in

1374
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: this game. He's got the first quarter touchout. In fact,

1375
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: since it's the last time I'm we're gonna hear from Jean,

1376
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: this is a great throw. Let's let's listen to Baker's

1377
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: touchdown to cad Aten in a driving rainstorm.

1378
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 3: Shotgun look Bell high Schnap Mayfield thws.

1379
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 4: A dark plod ball Chopstown, Tampa Bay.

1380
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 19: Hey boy, what a bro by Baker may be able

1381
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 19: to bunks you off top six.

1382
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 8: Were not It's a great throw.

1383
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: Wasn't perfect, but you know they moved the ball. He

1384
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: gets thirty one yards on the ground, they rush for

1385
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty. They hold the ball for thirty

1386
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: seven minutes. The conditions were nasty. At a certain point,

1387
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: I was like, let's just can we just come back

1388
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: on Sunday and not let the conditions decide it.

1389
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 4: There was that interception in.

1390
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 8: The second quarter, so Baker ball quit rolling pretty quickly.

1391
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the conditions actually improved as the game went on,

1392
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: and in the second, third and fourth quarter Baker threw

1393
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: fo one hundred and twenty four yards, had a pick

1394
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: and a passer rating of sixty. Okay, where it seemed

1395
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: like in and again, I don't know if it's just

1396
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 2: in my head, I could be I am no doctor.

1397
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going to diagnose Baker Mayfield by video like

1398
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: weirdos do on Twitter, where nobody, no doctor's ever asking

1399
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: you for a video, So stop doing that. But Baker

1400
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: starts the game, looks good, He's pumped, he's lowering his shoulder,

1401
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 2: running over people, runs into Mike Jackson, has an argument

1402
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 2: with him. But what looked like the physical deterioration of

1403
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield happening in real time as the game went on,

1404
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 2: to the extent where it is hard that the buck

1405
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 2: sideline apparently was hiding Baker Mayfield. What felt like for

1406
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:34,839
Speaker 2: the rest of the game is the Panthers defense started.

1407
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: Partly because he does dumb stuff like lowering his shoulder

1408
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 1: on a run like that when he's right next to

1409
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: the sideline and you love the competitiveness.

1410
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 4: Obviously that I hated it, right, You've been hurt all season,

1411
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:47,560
Speaker 4: right like that.

1412
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: He sometimes is his own worst man enemy. They did

1413
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: just look like the better team though, like in general,

1414
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: they are much more talented. The collapse of the Chiefs

1415
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: and the raven and the Bengals and you know, even

1416
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: in the NFC you could look at the Lions has

1417
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: sort of hidden the fact that the Bucks are one

1418
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: of the very most disappointing teams in the league. There's

1419
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 1: not a lot of excuses for why they've been this bad. Ultimately,

1420
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: they were punished, you know, for it, even though they

1421
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: won this game, Like how they finished this season was

1422
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 1: kind of catastrophic.

1423
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 8: They will show you why they've finished the season this way. Yeah,

1424
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 8: it might seem like it's unexplainable when you look at

1425
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 8: the names on this roster on both sides of the ball,

1426
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 8: when you look at, you know, the the way that

1427
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 8: they started the season, and when you look at some

1428
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 8: of the ability and the potential that they have failed

1429
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 8: to live up to through the second half of the season,

1430
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 8: and it all boils down to these little microcosmic moments

1431
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 8: that happened from game to game. A couple of weeks ago,

1432
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 8: it's multiple false starts in a row. This last game,

1433
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 8: it is Baker running into his own running back Sean Tucker,

1434
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 8: knocking him down on the handoff, fumbling the exchange, killing

1435
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 8: the drive. It is Baker throwing a just completely just

1436
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 8: bad interception to Christian rose Boom who's sitting in a

1437
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 8: cloudy zone that giro evrobates him into throwing by putting

1438
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 8: Christian rose Boom right where Baker needs to place the ball.

1439
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 8: And it's these types of things where they can't help themselves.

1440
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 8: They just can't win for losing, and it doesn't just

1441
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 8: happen over the course of a game in totality, it

1442
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 8: happens in these little moments. And ever since you know

1443
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 8: they they started on this skid, these little moments have

1444
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 8: compounded for them.

1445
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 4: We're six and two.

1446
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: They were six and two, and they finished two and

1447
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: seven down the stretch despite getting healthier down the stretch.

1448
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: So the Panthers will be able to talk about them

1449
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: in their matchup against the Rams on Westavius and leading

1450
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: into that game, this game was very concerning for them

1451
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: in general, because yeah, I still just wonder what are

1452
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: what are they good at? Like because they're not good

1453
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: at running the ball consistently. They're actually one of the

1454
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: very worst rushing teams in the end their bottom three

1455
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: and basically every stat since about week I think ten

1456
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: or twelve something like that.

1457
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 4: Bryce has had moments Teteroa.

1458
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: McMillan I think made a good closing case with a

1459
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: big long touchdown and another offensive pass interference that was

1460
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: a very questionable call that should have been a long

1461
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: call that would have put him over one hundred yards.

1462
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: He did go over a thousand yards. Like, they have

1463
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: a couple of things, but like, I don't know what

1464
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: they're good at. To me, they're probably the twenty fifth

1465
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: best team in the NFL or so and they're making

1466
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And the play calling with the fleet clicker

1467
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: in the rain from the twenty yard line was was special.

1468
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 2: It is a part of the collective disaster where late

1469
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 2: in this game I would have swore up and down

1470
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 2: that the Buccaneers were going to lose the game on

1471
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 2: the virtue of the Panthers having successful offense. That was

1472
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 2: just having things go wrong in the closing moments. So

1473
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 2: there's a solid young drive that starts with a touchback.

1474
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 2: They eventually get a Fitzgerald fifty four yard field goal

1475
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: that he misses. The next drive, they have the big

1476
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 2: play to tell where it's thirty two yards. If it's

1477
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: a thirty two yard play that t Mac drops, it's

1478
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 2: not against the rules to discuss. But because it's a

1479
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 2: penalty and the Panthers made bad plays, it's against the

1480
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 2: rules to have an extensive discussion about the impact the

1481
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 2: penalty would have because there's other things. There are other

1482
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 2: plays in the football game where the Panthers could have

1483
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 2: had success.

1484
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 3: That was a significant one. I'll call don't they don't

1485
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 3: get points on that drive.

1486
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: I think it was a bad call, But it also

1487
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: is a bad call that you understand when you watch

1488
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: the repay, Like why seeing that live that it just

1489
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: looked violent enough that it was made and it's like

1490
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: mistakes happened.

1491
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: Yes, mistakes do happen.

1492
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: They happened to the benefit of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

1493
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: in this game because the next drive after that, so

1494
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: that's a potential scoring miss a field goal, potential scoring drive.

1495
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: Penalty brings it back then the infamous flea flicker call

1496
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: in the red zone, which was catastrophic, and then the

1497
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: next drive after that they do get a touchdown. Where

1498
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 2: we've seen this Panthers offense be able to execute. It

1499
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 2: was just in weird moments. Weird things happen in a

1500
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 2: weird football game and a weird division.

1501
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 8: It drives me freaking nuts because they do things that

1502
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,919
Speaker 8: make so much sense, and they do them in sequence,

1503
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,520
Speaker 8: and then they get too cute and then everything just implodes.

1504
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 8: And that's what drives me nuts, because they have this

1505
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 8: like cohesiveness. When it's clicking, it really clicks. This is

1506
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 8: them deciding that they are going to go under center,

1507
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 8: where Tampa Bay has really struggled against under center passing

1508
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 8: plays and under center runs and play action of late.

1509
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 8: So they're going under center and that's great, and I'm thinking, wow,

1510
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 8: Dave Canalis is keeping things simple right now. This is great.

1511
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 8: This is working. All of a sudden, they go into

1512
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 8: the pistol, the play fails. Do they go under center? No,

1513
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 8: they move a Bryce back further and he goes into

1514
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 8: the shotgun and then he throws a pick. Jacob Parris

1515
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 8: just jumped the route on Tatuo mcmillion, same thing. They

1516
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 8: convert their first third down in eons, and the next

1517
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 8: play after that is the flea flicker that was I

1518
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 8: think intended to go to the player leaking into the flat,

1519
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 8: but everyone stops because the first part of the play fails,

1520
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 8: and so nothing looks like it works.

1521
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 4: Got a two kid put the conditions into account and

1522
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 4: all of.

1523
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 8: Them get cut in conditions.

1524
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: All of that is true, and yet I gotta keep

1525
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: going back to this running thing because I think it's

1526
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: important to think about intentions of how you want to

1527
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: build your team. The whole point of this team build

1528
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: was we're gonna win in the trenches. We're gonna pay

1529
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: a lot of money to guards, We're gonna build around

1530
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 1: this offensive line. We're gonna pay our backs, We're gonna

1531
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: run the ball and support break like that is literally

1532
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: our philosophy. And they had nineteen yards on fourteen carrigs

1533
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: and it's part of a pretty long trend, and so

1534
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: that that really worries me about them. Let's end the

1535
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: Bucks talk positively, because we don't know if Todd Bowles

1536
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: and Jason Light are safe. I have to assume Jason Light,

1537
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: who's done an incredible job as a GM in my mind,

1538
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: is safe. We don't know if Todd Bowles is safe.

1539
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: In the Bucks history, the Glaziers have often taken a

1540
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: really long time to make any sort of decisions, and

1541
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 1: the insider seemed to believe that Bulls is going to

1542
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: keep his job. Anyways, I don't think we'd find out

1543
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: for a little while, but I do think, based on

1544
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: the tone of the postgame speech from Levante David after

1545
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: the game, that there's a real chance it's the last

1546
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: time we see Levante David in a Bucks uniform and

1547
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: so fitting in what might have been his last game,

1548
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 1: he actually tied like the guy that you think about

1549
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: when you think of Levante David first Derek Brooks for

1550
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: the all time lead in tackles. Let's listen to Levante

1551
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: David in the locker room.

1552
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 3: I love y'all.

1553
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,480
Speaker 5: I love y'all to death, and that's how you bear relationships,

1554
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 5: how it layship with each every one of y'all in here,

1555
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 5: and that's what it's all about.

1556
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 20: Man.

1557
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 3: I appreciate y'all, dely.

1558
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: This was all about man family all three one and

1559
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: three cold Oh that It was about a minute and

1560
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: a half long video, which if you're into those sort

1561
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: of things, I love these locker room things. I would

1562
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 1: recommend going to watch. But what really caught my attention.

1563
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: At the very end of it was some random buccaneer

1564
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: player just yelling out Tyler Shuck like a cry of

1565
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: help and hope that Tyler Shuck, the man that has

1566
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: saved this Saints season, would save the Bucks on Sunday

1567
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: afternoon and send them to the playoffs.

1568
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 16: Could he get it done in Atlanta? Let's go Torrey

1569
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 16: and Pettis go to the left side. Johnson had another

1570
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 16: receiver here to the near side. That's Austin estimates the back.

1571
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 16: Shuck's gonna throw quick shot in or something.

1572
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 11: It's day Lord Day offered forty midfield. He's got Tyler

1573
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 11: Shuck to beat down the far side, light out of bounds.

1574
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 11: He got edged out and Atlanta gets the pick they need.

1575
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 4: I feel bad for using that at the highlight. It

1576
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 4: was the biggest play in the game.

1577
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: It was Tyler Shuck's biggest mistake in a big moment

1578
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: since he took over as a starting quarterback. Shuck gets

1579
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,560
Speaker 1: the ball back, they go right down the field and

1580
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: he throws a miraculous touchdown ball to to Ronnie Bell

1581
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: and they make it close. They don't get the on

1582
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: side kick, and the Falcons win the game nineteen to seventeen,

1583
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: sending the Panthers to the playoffs. But the reason I

1584
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 1: feel bad is that Tyler Shuck heard that unnamed Bucksky

1585
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: in the locker room. He played great today. I don't

1586
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: want him to win Offensive Rookie of the Year because

1587
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: I still think it's right for a guy who missed

1588
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: half the season to win Offensive Rookie of the Year

1589
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: unless you were like Dan Marino or just an insanely

1590
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: high level from a rookie quarterback, and Shuck isn't that.

1591
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: But he was game, and they didn't have Chris Olave

1592
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: in this game. We know they've been missing their running backs.

1593
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: Kelvin Banks, left tackle, left early in this game with

1594
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,799
Speaker 1: an ankle injury. He's thrown to Ronnie Bell like Taysom

1595
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: Hills lining up out wide Kevin Austen junior Dante Pettis,

1596
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: and he's making some really impressive plays with his feet

1597
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: and his arm. So it's one I think you had

1598
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: to watch all the way through, and I did because

1599
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm a sicko and I love the NFC South and

1600
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 1: this was just a stupid game overall. I think he

1601
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 1: played his part, but ultimately the Falcons are just like

1602
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: a better football team overall by the end.

1603
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 4: And it wasn't about the quarterbacks.

1604
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, even the stay Sons limits beyond to forty three

1605
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 2: yards on fifteen carries where it's still the shell game

1606
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: with Kirk Cousins, but the Falcons able to facilitate that,

1607
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: you know, on the virtue of this defense being able

1608
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: to make plays. James Pierce Junior was huge in this game,

1609
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 2: both he and Jalen Walker having to contend with the

1610
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: athletics specimen that is Tyler Schuck. Week after week we

1611
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 2: see him like even on the pick where it would

1612
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 2: have been a pick six a lot of times like

1613
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 2: Tylers suck at the angle if he could have turned

1614
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 2: around and tackled Alford facing him, who.

1615
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 1: Was it that Chuck ran to the edge And at

1616
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: that point you were like, Chuck has not been caught

1617
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: on one of these runs all seed.

1618
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:21,520
Speaker 4: It was Jalen Walker like a top ten pick athlete.

1619
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 8: And uh, you made think when he came out in

1620
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 8: the draft, all Greg could think about was how old

1621
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 8: them legs and hips were.

1622
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:28,839
Speaker 4: Well, not only old, but guilty.

1623
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 3: I'm guilty as well.

1624
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 1: Now I am too, Like obviously he wasn't. I don't

1625
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: think one hundred percent healthy last year in general, he

1626
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: was getting healthier, but also that maybe he protected himself

1627
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 1: with how he managed the pocket, because that's been a

1628
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: strength for him.

1629
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 4: There were parts of this game.

1630
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: He took a lot of sacks in this game where

1631
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: it reminded me of some of his bad college tape

1632
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: because like it was happening and then he was just

1633
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: holding onto the ball forever and just kind of waiting

1634
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: until the sack arrived.

1635
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 4: And that did happen a little bit.

1636
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: But he went on to make so many plays that

1637
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: I think his de development was one of the biggest

1638
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: stories in the NFL that I think the Saints found

1639
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback in the early second round, which almost

1640
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: never happened. Derek Carr was won, Andy Dalton was one,

1641
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick was one. It just doesn't happen that often,

1642
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: and he solved a major problem for them. I think

1643
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: his his floor is like a pretty solid starting quarterback

1644
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: and because of his athletic ability, like the ceiling is

1645
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: obviously much higher. In this game though, like we thought

1646
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: winning four straight to end the season would save Raheem

1647
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: Morris's job. Maybe Terry Fontina goes that's what the insiders

1648
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: were saying going into the day, they're like, oh, Morris

1649
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: looks like he's probably safe. They beat the Rams, that's

1650
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 1: a big deal. But after the game, early in the evening,

1651
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: it was reported Raheem Morris and Terry Fontina are both

1652
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: out tough break. I think for Raheem Morris, they finished

1653
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 1: eight and nine, they win four straight to end the season,

1654
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,520
Speaker 1: they actually tie for the division lead. They were eliminated

1655
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: on December seventh, So NFC so there's no chance. I mean,

1656
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: we'd have to get research. There's no chance that a

1657
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: team eliminated four weeks before the season was over has

1658
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 1: ever tied for the division lead, right, I mean that's

1659
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 1: it's like it's almost statistically impossible, but that that is

1660
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: the NFC South. But unfortunately, it seems like Arthur Blank's

1661
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: mind was made up, probably when they were four to

1662
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: nine and nothing was going.

1663
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 4: To move them off.

1664
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think some of it's teams that are

1665
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 8: bad that stay bad, that are set up to fail,

1666
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 8: whether you're the GM coming in with an overhang coach,

1667
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 8: or you're the coach coming in with an overhang GM

1668
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 8: whose job security was not set in stone even before

1669
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 8: hiring the coach. They were incongruous in terms of their

1670
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 8: tenure there from the start, and you have to feel,

1671
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 8: you have to feel that the quarterback situation that they

1672
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 8: both made the decisions on that they both pursued with

1673
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 8: Michael Pennix and Kirk Cousins in that contract, you have

1674
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 8: to you have to think about how that major decision

1675
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 8: or sequence of decisions ultimately set them up on this

1676
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 8: crash course, especially with the in light of the injuries.

1677
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 8: And it's tough, it's it's it's difficult because I know

1678
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 8: that Raheem Morris is really respected in that building and

1679
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 8: certainly he won't lack a job. Terry Fountineau probably won't

1680
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 8: lack a job either. He's well respected across the league.

1681
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:35,759
Speaker 4: But the if Patrick's Hyron in the top ten.

1682
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 8: You couldn't You couldn't leave one. You couldn't leave one

1683
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 8: and keep the other again, you just couldn't do it.

1684
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 8: And I think it is absurd to hire separate consulting

1685
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 8: firms the way that the Falcons are doing, to make

1686
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 8: separately the decision on GM and head coach moving forward,

1687
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 8: or to find those can I think that is absurd.

1688
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 4: And Matt Ryan like what is Matt Ryan doing.

1689
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:00,839
Speaker 8: But also just to start, just to start on even ground,

1690
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 8: like you cannot have this incongruous situation over and over

1691
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 8: and over again.

1692
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: I don't think as a matter of practice, it's crazy

1693
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 1: to let a GM hire a second coach if the

1694
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 1: first one doesn't work out. The problem is for that

1695
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: second coach that yes, you're not he's not going to

1696
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: get to hire a third and you're on a shorter leash.

1697
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: That's unfair to him because Rahee Morris went, you know,

1698
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 1: eight to nine back to back years. It's not a

1699
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: great start. But the problem with their team build is

1700
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,879
Speaker 1: he coaches a very specific defense. Yeah, and the defense

1701
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: made sense this year. They've always wanted to sack the quarterback.

1702
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: You know what they did today? They set the all

1703
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 1: time franchise record for sacking the quarterback. I don't like

1704
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,520
Speaker 1: any I think Pierce's sack totals are a little misleading,

1705
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: but he's a promising player. And that pick that he

1706
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: that Terry fountin WHU sent out the door that a

1707
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: lot of people made fun of him for, Like Pierce

1708
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: is like the next GM is now inheriting that.

1709
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 4: So it is how bad teams stay bad.

1710
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: Especially the the reports that Matt Ryan could be coming

1711
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: in with a front office type of role.

1712
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 8: For Max always helped their former front offices. It always

1713
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 8: works Miami and John al.

1714
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 4: That's fine, But like, what is Rich McKay doing there?

1715
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: Maybe Rich McKay, who's been there forever the entire he's

1716
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: the team president. Now he's more in the business side,

1717
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: but you know he goes back to the VIC days,

1718
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: is like the GM. Maybe he's going to go too.

1719
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 3: We don't know.

1720
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 4: That would make more sense to me. But yeah, two

1721
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 4: different groups, what are they?

1722
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 3: Sports it's one group Greg two.

1723
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: ZRG Partners is hiring uh, I think the GM and

1724
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 1: Sportsology is hiring the coach. Well, and they're proud enough

1725
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: about is that they put it in the statement. I'd

1726
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: be ashamed. It's like, we don't know what we're doing,

1727
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: that's what that says.

1728
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 3: Well, no, well, why would you.

1729
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: Know, Terry Fonta, anybody involved in the operation evaluate the operation?

1730
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 2: When Sportsology who specify who is specializes in maximizing growth

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Speaker 4: You know what it sounds like to me? What's that

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Speaker 4: a grift?

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Speaker 1: Yes, like a way to extract money when you really

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Speaker 1: aren't accomplishing anything. Because if you can't, if you don't

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Speaker 1: know how to hire your own head coach and GM like,

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Speaker 1: that's a problem that you don't have someone in the

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Speaker 1: building and then you are paying a lot of people

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Speaker 1: in the building a lot.

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Speaker 4: It just it's a bad start to the off season.

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Speaker 2: I think for the Falcon, the best decision you can

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Speaker 2: make in this position, if you're McKay, if you're anybody

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Speaker 2: the search firm is never going to say that you're

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Speaker 2: the problem.

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Speaker 3: And their values are curiosity, empathy and challenge.

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Speaker 8: And it's really you think it's two search firms, but

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Speaker 8: it's really possibly just Rich McKay in a giant trench coat.

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Speaker 1: Okay, by the way, it's ZRG Partner's got to correct this.

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Speaker 1: That's doing the head coach very important to Claife doing

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Speaker 1: the GM search and you you checked out. I believe

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Speaker 1: it was the site of Sportsology. I'm on it right now,

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Speaker 1: and they they only had one quote what do they

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Speaker 1: call it? A testimonial?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you go to the testimonial section of Sportsology place

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Speaker 2: because you think you're going well.

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Speaker 3: They specialized in you know, leading knowledge premiere.

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Speaker 2: It's Tom Pinn, president of the Los Angeles Football Club,

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Speaker 2: is the only testimonial.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to have a testimonial page, you need

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Speaker 1: more than one. That's a bad sign.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a testimonial l's page. It's a testimonial page,

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Speaker 2: a shout out to LAFC.

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Speaker 4: It's a bad sign.

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Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is fut know you know had

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Speaker 1: a good draft, like Xavier Watts was awesome in this game.

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01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: Again one of the biggest reasons why uh they won

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Speaker 1: this game. And the pass rushers are going to be good.

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Speaker 2: And yes, like I said, with aquiring talent not important

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Speaker 2: in terms of evaluating.

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Speaker 4: You know who else had a good knowledge.

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Speaker 1: It's why you always got to just try to survive

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01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 1: one more year because you don't know what's going to

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01:26:58,320 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: happen that year.

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Speaker 4: You know what a good draft list? Thank you Lewis.

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Speaker 8: Hey, I think sure, I think I can hear him

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01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 8: his response to you, Greg, he says, it's really hard

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01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 8: to respond to all my fans.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, Like Drake may was all that matters for

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01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,719
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five Patriots, Tyler

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01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 1: Shuck is all that matters with.

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Speaker 4: The Saints, and it's looking good.

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Speaker 1: Let's, uh, let's go through the rest of these games

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01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: a little quicker because those were the big playoff implication

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01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 1: type of games. We still have to figure out some

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01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,560
Speaker 1: seating in the rest of the NFC. Let's go to

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01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: Chicago where the Lions and Bears were playing, and don't

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01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 1: tell Dan Campbell game is mean, because he'll go win it.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 15: It is Jack Fox, the spot face with the.

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Speaker 4: Kick, it is up it it is good, the Lions

1796
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 4: playing on the floor and play of the game.

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Speaker 21: The Lions come into Chicago one week eighteen and complete

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Speaker 21: a season sweep of the Chicago Bears and put up

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Speaker 21: their ninth victory of the season.

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Speaker 1: Awesome win. Awesome call by Dan Miller. Gonna miss having

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Speaker 1: the Lions potentially in the playoffs.

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Speaker 20: W x y T.

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Speaker 4: We should have seen this coming.

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Speaker 1: It's it's just very lionsy to have like a proud

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01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: way to go out on the season. Big day for

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, big day for aman Ra Saint Brown. I

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Speaker 1: think we know who the Lions are. I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you about the Bears and just if there was

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Speaker 1: anything from this game that concerned you going into the

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Speaker 1: playoffs for.

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Speaker 8: Them, Yeah, it was them seeming to forget themselves a

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Speaker 8: little bit, forgetting how settled they'd been in these close games,

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Speaker 8: forgetting how they've won these late games and in some

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Speaker 8: cases come from behind games, in some cases clearing a tie.

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01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 8: This Bears team sort of like frazzled out near the

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Speaker 8: end because the Bears entered the fourth quarter down sixteen

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Speaker 8: to zero, they had just one hundred and thirty nine

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Speaker 8: total yards to that point. Wow, and they put together

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01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 8: two scoring drives with two successful two point conversions to

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Speaker 8: tie the game with five and a half minutes left.

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01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 8: So then you're thinking, Okay, these are the Bears that

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Speaker 8: I've seen all season to this point. These are the

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Speaker 8: Bears that have gotten so good at especially winning in

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01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 8: these lake in the late parts of these games, in

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Speaker 8: these comebacks. But they blew it. And that's the old Bears.

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Speaker 8: Because Detroit quarterback Jared Gough, who played great most of

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Speaker 8: the game, but did try to force a ball to

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Speaker 8: double coverage up the middle. I'm on Ras Saint Brown

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Speaker 8: on a third and twenty. It was picked by Kevin Byrd.

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Speaker 8: And Chicago had an opportunity to close the game, and

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Speaker 8: this in the subsequent two minutes and eleven seconds, and

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Speaker 8: they wasted two downs ahead of the two minute warning,

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Speaker 8: and then they had to get back give back the

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Speaker 8: ball via punt with a minute fifty five left. The

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Speaker 8: Lions get the ball back and of course it's Jared

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Speaker 8: Goff on a short crosser yack play to a Monra

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Speaker 8: Saint Brown and it sets up that field goal. So

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Speaker 8: the Lions did the thing that the Lions always have

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Speaker 8: been able to do in this era, and the Bears

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01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 8: forgot themselves and they were for a moment the old Bears.

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Speaker 1: It's two straight games where you're just reminded of how

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Speaker 1: the Bears have won this season, and it kind of

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01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: reminds me how the Bucks won in the first half

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Speaker 1: of the season. The Bucks, by the way, played more

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01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 1: games five points are under than any team in the

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Speaker 1: history of the NFL this year, like more close games.

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Speaker 1: The Bears have been in a lot of close games

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Speaker 1: this year too, and they won almost all of them.

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Speaker 1: The last two weeks. They've had the ball with the

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01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,799
Speaker 1: chance to win the game. And if that keeps happening

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01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over, like it's hard

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01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: to do every single week, and they didn't get it done.

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01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, he was more disappointed after winning this game

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Speaker 1: than I expected. I thought it was kind of going

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Speaker 1: to be a celebration of like the Colt so exciting. Yeah,

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01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: the culture that they've brought that. You know, he beats

1857
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson for all the Ben Johnson talk. Well, they

1858
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 1: beat the Lions twice. I mean, they beat the Bears twice.

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01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: If nothing else, they swept the Bears this year. This

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Speaker 1: is him after the game.

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Speaker 17: It's I mean, let's call it what. It is, pretty

1862
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 17: pissed all week, you know, and it's a bad feeling.

1863
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 17: And now we're going in the playoffs and you get

1864
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 17: to watch everybody else go while you're sitting at home,

1865
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 17: and it's frustrating. So that's what fuels you. We don't

1866
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 17: want to be doing that again next year. That's not

1867
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 17: where we want to be. You got to get in.

1868
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 4: Resolved, resilient, not celebrating. I guess a game that to them.

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01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 1: Probably was a little more meaningless than that Week eighteen win,

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Speaker 1: which I think set off this mini era in Detroit

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01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: over Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers knocking them out of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs in Week eighteen.

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01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 4: Four years ago.

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Speaker 1: So they ran the ball really well today on the Bears,

1875
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: and the Bears could not run the ball against them.

1876
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: So that's something to watch next week with the Bears loss.

1877
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: And it was close the whole game. Both the Bears

1878
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: and the Eagles were going for the two seed, and

1879
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 1: the Eagles weren't really going for the two seed because

1880
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: they weren't playing a lot of their starters, but they

1881
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: thought maybe Tanner McKee and the backups could win that

1882
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 1: game against Washington, and there was a moment in this

1883
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: game that it looked like they could. We're going to

1884
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 1: go to Philadelphia, and when we come back from this

1885
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 1: highlight here, we're gonna have the man, Nick Shuk Yeah,

1886
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 1: finally join the show.

1887
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,759
Speaker 4: Everyone's in the YouTube comments right now. Where is Shook.

1888
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 4: He's right here.

1889
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 8: He's been with us the whole team.

1890
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 4: He's in Philadelphia.

1891
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 3: Serted goal of the two in a tie game.

1892
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 17: Johnson under center Gregory is the best Brooks comes in motion,

1893
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 17: closer to the line playoffs in this side, he's rolling left.

1894
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 15: We'll take back, got puts his head on, He'll walk.

1895
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:26,799
Speaker 12: Into the episode.

1896
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 3: Touchdown, touchdown.

1897
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 4: What you did, Josh Johnson master class score.

1898
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: Love that Bram Einstein had a masterclass all last season

1899
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: calling big time moments. This wasn't the final big time

1900
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 1: moment that he wanted. But Josh Johnson running for a

1901
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 1: touchdown and like a two score comeback in the fourth

1902
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 1: quarter against the Eagles, It's kind of a fun way

1903
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: to end the season. Nick, you watched this game closely.

1904
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: The Eagles had the lead with Tanner McKee. They were

1905
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: closing in on what in the end would have been

1906
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 1: the two seed. But at the end, Josh Johnson, the

1907
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,679
Speaker 1: Wiley seventeen year vet was too much.

1908
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 4: Was What were your big takeaways here?

1909
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, in a fun way.

1910
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 9: Talk about an electric way for the Wick Commanders, a

1911
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 9: team that had really no reason to continue playing for

1912
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 9: the rest of the season. They're down to Josh Johnson.

1913
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 9: He's thirty nine years old. He hasn't thrown a touchdown

1914
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,720
Speaker 9: pass since twenty twenty one. He puts him on the

1915
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 9: board with a dime to Jake Bates, in the back

1916
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 9: of the endze excuse me, that was different. Baits Brendan Bates,

1917
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 9: and suddenly before you know it, actually John Bates, Now

1918
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:32,640
Speaker 9: I got it right third time around. Before you know what,

1919
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 9: the Commanders are involved. They're in this game, but they

1920
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 9: still have work to do. And that is where Josh

1921
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 9: Johnson channels the many years he spent in the NFL ten.

1922
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,639
Speaker 9: In fact, he's also been in other leagues with teams

1923
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 9: with names you can't remember. None of that mattered today

1924
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 9: because he led a drive that was aided by penalties,

1925
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 9: you know, committed by the Eagles backups Keey Ringo being

1926
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:52,440
Speaker 9: a repeat offender.

1927
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 3: On that one.

1928
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 9: But when the game came down to the goal Liden situation,

1929
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 9: and it's third and one, and it seems like the

1930
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 9: Commanders have been on the doorstep forever.

1931
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 15: The play action bootleg that we just played.

1932
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 9: There, Josh Johnson rolling to his left, faking a pump

1933
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 9: just enough to get Ringo to retreat and coverage, and

1934
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 9: then he gets to stroll into the end zone.

1935
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 15: This is I wouldn't call it redemption. It's not Geno Smith.

1936
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 9: I didn't right back in Seattle, Okay, It's glorious for

1937
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 9: Josh Johnson, and on the eagle side, it's, oh, no,

1938
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 9: we played our backups and we lost the opportunity to

1939
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:22,760
Speaker 9: claim a higher seed.

1940
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 15: Maybe we shouldn't have done that.

1941
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 4: That's basically okay.

1942
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: Let's actually listen to Nick Sirianni address that point after

1943
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 1: the game, asked if there was any regrets about resting

1944
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 1: as starters.

1945
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 23: I knew this was an outcome that these things could happen.

1946
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 23: Like I said to you guys, one thing I could

1947
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 23: guarantee was giving them a rest. I couldn't guarantee anything else.

1948
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,639
Speaker 23: And us being healthy and going into the playoffs healthy

1949
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 23: is a big deal for us, and you know, just

1950
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 23: that served us well in the past, and so again

1951
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 23: I know they'll be debate on that, but you know again,

1952
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 23: I have to do what's best, what I think is

1953
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,560
Speaker 23: best for the football team moving forward, and that's what

1954
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 23: I did.

1955
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 4: You know, I agree with Nick Serio. I think it

1956
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 4: was just bad, bad circumstance.

1957
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I think they'll be more annoyed that they had a

1958
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 1: seventeen to ten lead going into the fourth quarter and

1959
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,879
Speaker 1: that they give up two touchdowns end because the backups

1960
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: were obviously playing pretty well. Took Jallex Hunt had an

1961
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: interception in this game. He now has three of the

1962
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: like Eagles players that matter, including like DeVante Smith that

1963
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 1: and Jalx Hunt that played in this game. Anything stand

1964
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 1: out to you that you kind of roll forward into

1965
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 1: next week that you found meaningful, Because as much as

1966
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:43,719
Speaker 1: I'm happy that the Commander season is over, I feel

1967
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 1: like I'm ready to stop talking about the twenty twenty

1968
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 1: five Commanders.

1969
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 15: Oh same, you and me both.

1970
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:49,640
Speaker 9: This is a disappointing team that we need to leave

1971
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 9: in the rearview. Who I don't want to leave in

1972
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 9: the rearview is Tank Bigsby, who got the line shared

1973
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 9: the carries today because obviously Saquon wasn't playing. He ran hard,

1974
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 9: he was running guys over. He was embodying his name

1975
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 9: of Tank today. We've I think he's been a favorite

1976
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 9: of this show for a while. When the Eagles acquired him,

1977
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 9: we were like, oh, that's a great move for depth.

1978
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 15: Could he play a key role for them? I don't know.

1979
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 9: They can't run the ball very well in most weeks.

1980
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 9: We've seen that with Saquan's numbers.

1981
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:12,719
Speaker 15: But he had a nice day, Like you said, Jalos

1982
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 15: Hunt did well.

1983
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 9: You know there was mentioned on the broadcast third interception

1984
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 9: this year, and I was like, he's three interceptions. I

1985
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 9: look back, that's true, third interception of the year, as

1986
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 9: crazy as that sounds for a guy who plays the

1987
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 9: position he plays. And Jeremiah Trotter Junior also really played

1988
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 9: a nice game, but you don't see him on the

1989
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,759
Speaker 9: field that much. I think that there were some mistakes

1990
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 9: made within Vic Fangio's system that they're going to want

1991
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 9: to clean up, but it's more of a like a

1992
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 9: systemic issue for them, where it's just like it's not

1993
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 9: something that you see week to week, but it's just like,

1994
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,759
Speaker 9: how are you fitting into the scheme and are you executing?

1995
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 9: I think you see that from backups who are getting

1996
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 9: larger shares of time on the field than they usually do.

1997
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 9: But other than that, I can't really roll that much forward.

1998
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 9: Other than no, I loved watching Johan Dotson run routes day.

1999
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 9: It felt like an exhibition of how good a route

2000
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 9: runner Jahan Dotson is.

2001
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 15: That's about it.

2002
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 4: It feels underused.

2003
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: Like when he had all those moments in the Super

2004
01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 1: Bowl and the NFC Championship, I was like, Oh, it's

2005
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 1: going to be more of a Johan Dotson year in

2006
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and it really wasn't Jylex Hunt by

2007
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 1: the way, twenty four quarterback hits six and a half, sacks, three,

2008
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 1: interception three more than a team that we're gonna talk

2009
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 1: about a little later. I found it interesting there were

2010
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: some insidary reports questioning whether Cliff Kingsbury would be back

2011
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: with the command. I was surprised to hear that so

2012
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 1: more in this space in the coming days, but it

2013
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 1: sounds like they might be considering a change at offensive coordinator.

2014
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: And Josh Johnson will be turning forty years old next year.

2015
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 1: He absolutely earned another year in the NFL. He looked

2016
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 1: pretty good the last couple of weeks. So the Eagles lose,

2017
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: Bears get the two seed, they play the Packers, Eagles

2018
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 1: get the three seed, they play the forty nine ers. Look,

2019
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 1: if those two teams play in the division round, that's

2020
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 1: a big if. And the Eagles are on the road.

2021
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: That is a disadvantage that they, you know, I guess

2022
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 1: earned by losing this game. But that's a lot of ifs,

2023
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 1: and I don't think that the forty nine ers are

2024
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 1: necessarily like a tougher matchup than the Packers anyway, so

2025
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 1: it's fine, get healthy. Let's go to an other team

2026
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 1: that's near and dear to your heart, Jordan, and my

2027
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,719
Speaker 1: daughter's heart and my wife's heart, and maybe Nick Schook's

2028
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: heart because he likes Matthew Stafford. Let's go to the

2029
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 1: Rams trying to get the five seed against the Cardinals.

2030
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 20: Matthew Stafford under center Lake Krum the single back Pooka

2031
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 20: in motion.

2032
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 3: Here it comes and.

2033
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 20: Goal play fake stand up to throw shoot it right side, touchdown.

2034
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 12: La Poby Parkinson tolls game kid Matthew his MV fee.

2035
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 14: A four touchdown.

2036
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:34,600
Speaker 4: Closing statements for.

2037
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 11: The thirty seven year old in his seventeenth season.

2038
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 4: The Rams are in the clear.

2039
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 14: Don't be the five seed going to Carolina next week.

2040
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: Two objectives I think for the Rams get back on

2041
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 1: the winning you know track, just feel better about your team,

2042
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:55,839
Speaker 1: and then get Matthew Stafford some stacked. In that MVP conversation,

2043
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 1: it sounds like they accomplished the Stafford part.

2044
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 4: What do you think about how this.

2045
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 1: Game played out and how they should be feeling the

2046
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: direction of the rest of the team.

2047
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 9: It's funny because I think it was a great example

2048
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 9: of how football could be a tail of two different halves,

2049
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,679
Speaker 9: and for the first half I was concerned about the Rams,

2050
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 9: not necessarily because I didn't think they had the capability,

2051
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 9: but they.

2052
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 15: Just seemed like they were kind of sleepwalking.

2053
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 9: It seemed like they were almost hung over from that

2054
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 9: loss to the Falcons a week earlier, which didn't make

2055
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 9: as much sense because their offensive line was that a

2056
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 9: better standing of strength than it was the week prior.

2057
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 15: Matthew Stafford had time to throw.

2058
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 9: They scored a touchdown just before halftime, but until that moment,

2059
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 9: I was worried that, oh God, have the Rams peaked

2060
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 9: too soon? Are they already on the downturn going into

2061
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 9: the playoffs? And then the second half arrived, and the

2062
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 9: second half presented the Rams with a little bit of

2063
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 9: a wake up call, which is, hey, I know the

2064
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 9: Cardinals have three wins this year, but just still.

2065
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 15: Got to play football. It's still the NFL.

2066
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 9: Because the Cardinals jumped all over them, they threw a

2067
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 9: fake punt pass for a twenty eight yard game. The

2068
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 9: very next play, Jacoby Brissette hits Michael Wilson with a

2069
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 9: deep shot, They score a touchdown.

2070
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 15: They score another touchdown.

2071
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 9: Josiah Deguara, another guy who hasn't scored since twenty twenty one.

2072
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 9: He's in the end zone and the Rams are trailing,

2073
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 9: and at that point, Sean mcvay's team woke up, remembered

2074
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 9: who they were, and played excellent football from there on out,

2075
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,760
Speaker 9: Matthew Stafford leading the way with his arm. You know,

2076
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:07,560
Speaker 9: we played the last touchdown passidy through, but it was

2077
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 9: the one right before that's Tyler Higbee that reminded me

2078
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 9: of what this offense can be when it's near full strength,

2079
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:14,560
Speaker 9: because they still don't have Davante Adams, and I was like,

2080
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 9: you know what, maybe they'll be just fine and they

2081
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 9: just need a little kick in the hind parts to.

2082
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 15: Remember who they are and the fact that they're going

2083
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:20,679
Speaker 15: to the playoffs.

2084
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 8: I always say that you can tell exactly who Sean

2085
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 8: McVay is mad at by the roster decisions that he

2086
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 8: makes going into game to game and in this case,

2087
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 8: leaving his secondary in for most of the game. Is

2088
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,600
Speaker 8: starting secondary that entered the game in through most of

2089
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 8: the game, and Jacoby Brissett at times really exploited them,

2090
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 8: especially with some of those perimeter throws. Michael Wilson had

2091
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 8: a great game. This was a this is the last

2092
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:52,560
Speaker 8: few weeks, it has been a very pointed and specific

2093
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 8: effort to light a fire under a team that knows

2094
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 8: how good it is and needs to remember it. And

2095
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 8: I think that's part of playing them today. We could

2096
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 8: tell it was Sean McVay saying I'm mad at this

2097
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 8: team right now without actually saying it, being professional about it,

2098
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 8: but basically reminding them, if you play like this like

2099
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 8: they did last week, if you play like this like

2100
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 8: they opened the half this week, they're not going very far.

2101
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 1: And it took a while, but he got there, and

2102
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,799
Speaker 1: he sounded pretty fired up in the postgame press conference

2103
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: of just like that was it. That was why we

2104
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 1: wanted to play this week essentially was to have a

2105
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 1: half like that where we explode. And I think that's

2106
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 1: good to You got to your coach. You gotta have

2107
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 1: a feel of their team. They've sat starters before. I

2108
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,560
Speaker 1: do think the five seed turned out to be a

2109
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 1: big advantage too. You get the Panthers, who I think

2110
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 1: are the weakest team in the entire playoff field. I

2111
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 1: know the Panthers beat them previously, but that's an advantage

2112
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 1: and you never know what if it's rams forty nine

2113
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 1: ers NFC championship again. Then the Rams get a home

2114
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 1: game because they won this game or Rams packers. I

2115
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: guess there's not that many scenarios as the five seed,

2116
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:58,759
Speaker 1: whether you can host so a big win. It seemed

2117
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 1: like the defense was in the second half at least

2118
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 1: getting after it.

2119
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 4: Let's talk about a more important defensive player that was

2120
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 4: getting after it on Sunday.

2121
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 1: This whole show has been preamble to Miles Garrett's moment,

2122
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 1: Nay Andrew Sicilianos moment.

2123
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 4: That's who's the real star here.

2124
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 24: Let's go to Cleveland, five twenty remaining in this game,

2125
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 24: Brown's up five. Bengals have it first out of the

2126
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 24: rounds forty five yard Life Borough shotgun Bro to Bro.

2127
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 6: Here's a mousy got them, he got them there.

2128
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 24: It is Miles Garrett sack number twenty three, the.

2129
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 6: New single season sack king.

2130
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 4: And the Browns.

2131
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 12: Defense mobs their man at the Cincinnati forty five yard.

2132
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:49,560
Speaker 1: Live Browns go on to get the win and we

2133
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,560
Speaker 1: will hear the game winning field goal call. But I

2134
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 1: thought it was really cool Nick that he got it

2135
01:42:55,479 --> 01:43:00,640
Speaker 1: on such a classic Garrett sack, which defied all how

2136
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 1: does a man move that fast that big in that

2137
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 1: Bend NGS had him as a point one seven get off,

2138
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 1: which I thought was maybe like a mistake with the chip,

2139
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 1: but you can kind of see it that he essentially

2140
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 1: timed the snap perfectly and has a speed and a

2141
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 1: body control and just athleticism that maybe no one else

2142
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:22,719
Speaker 1: has ever had off the edge position.

2143
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 4: A very cool moment for your Browns, and they capped

2144
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 4: it off with a win.

2145
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I'm not going to deep dive on this

2146
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 9: tape here on this play specifically who was a great

2147
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 9: moment in football history.

2148
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 15: But folks are going to complain that, oh he.

2149
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 9: Took Burrow took a dive like Brett fav with straight hand,

2150
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:38,600
Speaker 9: and I pushed back against that because of what you

2151
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 9: just said.

2152
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 15: The get off time was absurd.

2153
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 9: It was also one of the few times that Miles

2154
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 9: Garrett wasn't facing some sort of trip chip or double team.

2155
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 9: He got a one on one against Orlando Brown and

2156
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 9: just simply beat him off the snap. In fact, I

2157
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 9: think Brown fall started on that plane. It didn't even matter,

2158
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 9: and Burrow knew he was doomed. So congrats to Miles

2159
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 9: Garrett for getting it done. Also, if you look at

2160
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 9: the clock at that point, there's five minutes and four

2161
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 9: seconds left in the fourth quarter. Not only were the

2162
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 9: Browns in a rock fight with the Bengals and trying

2163
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 9: to in a game, but they were also getting really

2164
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 9: anxious that Miles Garrett might not do it and he

2165
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 9: might finish at twenty two sacks. So it was great

2166
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 9: to see him get the job done. They paused the game.

2167
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 9: They you know, they kind of honored him on the sideline.

2168
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 9: They lifted him up on somebody's shoulders like he was

2169
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:14,760
Speaker 9: John madd who just won a Super Bowl, a team

2170
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 9: that only won five games, one of those wins coming today.

2171
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 15: It was a nice moment for them in a historic

2172
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 15: season for Miles Garrett.

2173
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: It's kind of a classic what is happening type of moment.

2174
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor after the game was was not pleased with

2175
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 1: how they stopped the game. And I got the sense,

2176
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 1: listening afterwards and watching it back that I'm not sure

2177
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 1: the officials really were sure if the game was going

2178
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:40,719
Speaker 1: to stop, And I think in my mind, the Browns

2179
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 1: just kind of stopped the game themselves and everyone had

2180
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 1: to just go along with it.

2181
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 4: And Zach Taylor was not pleased about that. After the game, trying.

2182
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 25: There's five minutes left in our season. We're playing for

2183
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 25: our lives here, and I you never told that we're

2184
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 25: going to stop the game and in a critical moment

2185
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 25: like that, And the refs just said that they made

2186
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 25: a decision that they were going to stop the game,

2187
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 25: and they said they tried to do it as quickly

2188
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 25: as possible. I didn't feel that we didn't sub We're

2189
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 25: trying to be on the ball and go and play

2190
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 25: with tempo, and the umpire just held the ball.

2191
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 8: The sound you're hearing is the world's tiniest violin. I said,

2192
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 8: just just don't, I mean, come on, it.

2193
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 1: Is an unprecedented situation. It was funny when it happened

2194
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: in the game. It was like under five minutes ago,

2195
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,560
Speaker 1: and they're driving for a Touchdow and I get what

2196
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:33,720
Speaker 1: he means. He's like, we're going to try to do

2197
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 1: it as quickly as possible and they're literally carrying them

2198
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 1: on their shoulders. But Zach Taylor has to realize that

2199
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 1: that sound clip is going to be remembered as like

2200
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 1: loser behavior And you just lost to the Browns and

2201
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 1: you just went six and eleven on a season where.

2202
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow played a lot of games. Bro just maybe

2203
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 4: just spe quiet.

2204
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 2: If he cut it off after they didn't let me

2205
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 2: know that they were going to stop the games, that's

2206
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 2: fat fine, Yeah, it would have been great to in

2207
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 2: the administration of the football tell the coach, Hey, at

2208
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 2: this career NFL record that hasn't been broken for a

2209
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 2: long time. You know, we've had it tied. Miles could

2210
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 2: get it today. We're going to stop the game. That's fine.

2211
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what schematic advantage you get after Joe

2212
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 2: Burrow got sacked to get back on the ball with

2213
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 2: the same personnel that just had Joe Burrow get sacked.

2214
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 3: I don't I don't really know, but.

2215
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 1: I guess you try to run as many plays as

2216
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 1: possible because you're trailing at that point, but the clock stops.

2217
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 15: Yeah, playing for their lives, man, like you.

2218
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 8: Said, it is life and death.

2219
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

2220
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 9: It was one of those moments that like everybody didn't

2221
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,799
Speaker 9: know what to do. Shelby Harris high five the nearby official.

2222
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 15: Like nobody knew what to.

2223
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 3: Do in that moment.

2224
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,360
Speaker 8: That's mezing, I just get here's the thing. I just

2225
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:41,880
Speaker 8: gotta need some more intestinal fortitude. I'm just gonna need

2226
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 8: more the.

2227
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 2: Fortitude was by the Browns and by Larry Garrett. Lawrence

2228
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 2: Garrett up there violating the pay course stadium policy on

2229
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 2: camera lenses over six inches because he's up there with

2230
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 2: the telephoto in the stands, take a picture of his

2231
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 2: baby boy breaking the record. Great moment for the brown.

2232
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,200
Speaker 1: And you gotta give you know, in terms of a

2233
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 1: intestinal fortitude, how about Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase on

2234
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 1: an ensuing drive that only started with like a couple

2235
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: of minutes left to go.

2236
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 4: They actually go down and take the lead with a touchdown.

2237
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:11,400
Speaker 4: It looked like it was almost gonna be perfect.

2238
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:13,360
Speaker 1: If you're a certain sort of Browns fan, you get

2239
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 1: you keep the draft pick, but you get the moment

2240
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:18,719
Speaker 1: and you move on. But no, they get a field

2241
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 1: goal to finish the game. Hell, we're not gonna hear

2242
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 1: Andrew again this year. Let's just listen to his game

2243
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 1: winning field goal call.

2244
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 24: A forty nine yard try with three seconds on the clock.

2245
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:32,759
Speaker 24: Sunahara Well hork Is, Andre Schmidt, the snap, the hold,

2246
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 24: the kick to the uprights, and Andre Schmidt hits the kick.

2247
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 4: There's a flag.

2248
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 15: I think it's gonna be leverage on the Bengals.

2249
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:46,560
Speaker 24: Alex Camp who won the game. Tell me please, the Cleveland.

2250
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 15: Browns have won this football game.

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01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 24: Now, Brown's a celebrating Andre Schmidt forty nine.

2252
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 4: Your game winning field goal is good the Browns.

2253
01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 3: Uh, thanks for the help on the call, Strope.

2254
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they would.

2255
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,559
Speaker 1: They win a couple of games late, which knocks them

2256
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 1: from you know, the top two or three of the

2257
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 1: draft down to number six. We'll hit that in a second.

2258
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 1: And they win a game with only two hundred yards

2259
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 1: of offense. What a performance and tough.

2260
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 15: So let's give some shout outs here, Greg. Let's give

2261
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 15: some shout outs here.

2262
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,760
Speaker 9: Andre Schmidt starts the season by missing a couple of

2263
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 9: key kicks in the Browns open with a loss to

2264
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 9: the Bengals in a game they could have won. Their

2265
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:26,799
Speaker 9: defense played well, bookends this season by beating the Bengals

2266
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 9: with a game winning field goals. So congratulations, redemption arc

2267
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:32,720
Speaker 9: complete for you, Andre Schmidt. And also, you know, we

2268
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 9: just got to look back at Devin Bush's breakout season.

2269
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 9: Yes it came late in his career, but he had

2270
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 9: the second pick six of the season and it went

2271
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:41,799
Speaker 9: ninety seven yards. So eat your heart out, James Harrison.

2272
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 9: It wasn't the super Bowl. It's January. I'm giving honors

2273
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 9: to people that won't matter next week. What a play

2274
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 9: by Devin.

2275
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:50,759
Speaker 4: Bush, speaking of which I was surprised.

2276
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 1: I questioned our friend Olie Connolly putting Devin Bush as

2277
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 1: his second team All Pro linebacker question last week one,

2278
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 1: and then immediately after he makes the big play here.

2279
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 4: So what a season for for Devin Bush? What a

2280
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 4: season for Shook? I would like, you know, have an

2281
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 4: emotional goodbye.

2282
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 1: It's our last you know, big full scale recap, but

2283
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 1: you're literally on the show in about twelve hours, so

2284
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 1: get some sleep and we'll talk on what the artist

2285
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: formerly known as black Monday, uh and talk a little

2286
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 1: coaches on Monday.

2287
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 15: Thanks Shook, Thanks for having me.

2288
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 8: Guys. All right, say we're going to talk a little coaches.

2289
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 1: Coaches we've been on for a while. Let's go to

2290
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 1: Minnesota and finish out the last few games here which

2291
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 1: did not have playoff ramlifications. Then we'll set up the

2292
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 1: draft order and we'll send you on your Sunday night.

2293
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone, by the way, who's sticking with us

2294
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 1: live in the chat on YouTube of.

2295
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 4: Course, if you're listening to see all of.

2296
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: Our awkward interactions on YouTube later if you like to

2297
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:57,919
Speaker 1: do both, Let's go to Minnesota.

2298
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 20: Nailer Emotions is behind bros. Murray goot looking right now

2299
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 20: he gets clost to own Fritzi for justin school up

2300
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 20: and he dropped the ball and it was picked up

2301
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 20: by Baron Sorell. No, all right, brother, that's seeing you, ma'am.

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01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

2303
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 4: Got bless your brother. Hey, just mel last to lead,

2304
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 4: say goodbye.

2305
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 3: Hey, Vikings fans, Vikings fans, there is always next year.

2306
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:28,680
Speaker 15: There's always next year.

2307
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 3: Final we are going to win a super Bowl. It's

2308
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 3: may not, may not be this year, but it is

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01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 3: going to be very soon. Appose to you that I.

2310
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 15: Love you, brother, have a good day.

2311
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 1: That was Paul Allen and Josh Dummel me Josh Tumel,

2312
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 1: famous Ish actor.

2313
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, very famous fun fan aged very well.

2314
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 4: Might I say that call almost didn't make it into

2315
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 4: the show. It is now the call of the year.

2316
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:57,919
Speaker 4: I think that won. I mean, there's incredible.

2317
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if anything can pop will be topped that.

2318
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:03,679
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is the Vikings won this game sixteen

2319
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 1: to three. So that was a tough moment there for

2320
01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 1: our guy, Max Broseman.

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01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 4: Say, good god, I love not.

2322
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 3: Even top five angry Paul ellen Cole, I don't.

2323
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 4: Know that's up there.

2324
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:29,640
Speaker 1: No, that was more bemused, sarcastic, laughing at the absurdity

2325
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 1: of life. Hey, and yet this game was was never

2326
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 1: even spend Poor Brosmer has been in a couple of

2327
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 1: the low lights of the season. Uh, which day I

2328
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:45,679
Speaker 1: feel bad about he had the Somersault fumble.

2329
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 8: I mean, let's okay, Lynn, let's even it out. Let's

2330
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 8: give one right back to the Green Bay Packers because

2331
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 8: this came in a nutshell. At one point near the

2332
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 8: end of the first half, running back Emanuel Wilson lost

2333
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 8: nineteen yards on a tackle for loss on a carry.

2334
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 8: Not inspiring day for the Clayton Tune led Green Bay

2335
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 8: Packers Week eighteen offense. Per ESPN research brought to us

2336
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 8: by Kevin Seifert, that was the biggest loss by an

2337
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 8: NFL running back on a rushing play since two thousand

2338
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 8: and seven.

2339
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 1: This is a type of play that happens in youth

2340
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 1: football a lot like if you watch like high school football,

2341
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 1: that's happening more than once in every six years or whatever.

2342
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 8: We're just trying to be fair, just trying to be fair.

2343
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 8: This was a game that happened in week eighteen and

2344
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:28,559
Speaker 8: now it's over.

2345
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 1: This was the most game that happened in week eighteen

2346
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 1: and now that it's over game because the Packers had

2347
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 1: fifty six yards on a truly garbage time drive at

2348
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:39,680
Speaker 1: the end that they kicked a field goal at the

2349
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 1: buzzer in this game, were you guys aware of that

2350
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 1: to get some points if it wasn't for those fifty

2351
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: six yards they were held to Let's do the math.

2352
01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: I believe about like sixty six yards before the sixty

2353
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 1: five yards in the entire game before that.

2354
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 4: That's outrageous.

2355
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,600
Speaker 2: That is the saddest field goal of the season in

2356
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 2: terms of the total game operation. Just just a rough

2357
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 2: one for you know, two very good play callers. I

2358
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 2: feel bad for the coaches.

2359
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, Kevin O'Connor's moving the ball.

2360
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:14,559
Speaker 1: It's it's Pat Lafleur and Clayton tune that at twelve

2361
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 1: yards I think at half times.

2362
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 8: The artist formerly known as Matt Lafleur Pat Lafleur, who

2363
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:20,839
Speaker 8: has to call a Clayton tune.

2364
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's his alter ego.

2365
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:24,639
Speaker 2: Much like nine, who made an appearance in this game

2366
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 2: when the referee was trying to hold him back after

2367
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 2: a tauntic penalty.

2368
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, hilaritians.

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01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:32,439
Speaker 8: I will say we talked about this with the Bills.

2370
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 8: They're week eighteen. It's right for games like this, but

2371
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 8: also stuff like what happened in the Bills game where

2372
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:42,599
Speaker 8: you get some really sweet moments, sometimes bittersweet sendoffs. Harrison Smith,

2373
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 8: the safety, just a legend for that franchise. The sendoff

2374
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 8: for him was was really really nice. Kevin O'Connell Kai

2375
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 8: called time out so that they could give him a

2376
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,680
Speaker 8: proper sendoff. You can watch it on YouTube right now.

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Speaker 8: He had sort of a gatorade bottle shower. His family

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01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:03,639
Speaker 8: is in a classy touched by the Vikings. Really totally

2379
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 8: heartwarming head pats from all of his teammates and hugs,

2380
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 8: and they really took their time sending off somebody who

2381
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 8: is so beloved and respected by this franchise, and the

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01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:16,760
Speaker 8: crowd gave him a well deserved standing ovation. This is

2383
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:21,719
Speaker 8: most likely, if not definitely, his final season in the NFL.

2384
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of big decisions for a lot of

2385
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 4: these players.

2386
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 1: Taylor Decker going back to the Lions game, had a

2387
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 1: very emotional telling press conference where he talked about everything

2388
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 1: he had to go through to try to play this year,

2389
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:35,760
Speaker 1: and so a lot of these players have been fighting

2390
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 1: through injuries and guys who've just been in a leege

2391
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 1: a long time, like Harrison's been making big decisions. We'll

2392
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 1: see if Brian Flores will be back for the Minnesota Vikings.

2393
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:47,919
Speaker 1: He's a coaching free agent, so that's intriguing. This defense

2394
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 1: finished the season just on total fire. And I think

2395
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 1: the one real football point take from this nothing from

2396
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 1: the Packer's side really, but from the Viking side, that

2397
01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy didn't survive the game again. You know, he

2398
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 1: got her, and so that's five different games. I think

2399
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 1: that he left during the game with an injury this season,

2400
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:08,560
Speaker 1: and the positive play that he had when he did

2401
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 1: play later in the season, I think got undercut by

2402
01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:14,440
Speaker 1: him getting hurt a couple more times down the stretch.

2403
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:17,640
Speaker 4: So something I think to keep keep in mind.

2404
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, in this game, he started while he was five

2405
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 8: for five. That's his longest streak of consecutive throat completions

2406
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 8: in his very short career so far, but then only

2407
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 8: went on to complete four of eleven passes, some of

2408
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:31,800
Speaker 8: them were so off target, and then he re hurt

2409
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 8: the same hand he had previously injured.

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01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 1: So the Vikings end up at nine to eight. I

2411
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 1: think it was Luke bron on Blue Sky who wrote this.

2412
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that this was true. That if the

2413
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 1: Vikings had beaten the Bears in November, I think, the

2414
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 1: last time they played, and you don't change any other result.

2415
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 1: The Vikings are the NFC North champions. Well, now, obviously

2416
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 1: everything would be different. The world would be different because

2417
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 1: of that. You know, I'm just saying motivations would be different.

2418
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 1: Packers would have played there, Like who knows what would

2419
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 1: have happened, everything would be You can't exactly do that,

2420
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 1: but that's how close in a way that they were.

2421
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 1: They did get to nine wins, they did get a

2422
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 1: winning record, they got over there over underwin total by

2423
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 1: winning five straight. It's kind of crazy how good this

2424
01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 1: defense was, especially down the stretch.

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01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 4: All right, let's go justa middlemas to Lease say, a guy, we.

2426
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 1: Really should have ended the show with that, because I'm

2427
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 1: sorry Jackson Dart and the Giants.

2428
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 4: You can't you can't really top it.

2429
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 14: Third and sixteen pressure, Dark gets it away to Bellinger.

2430
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 3: He cuts inside of the twenty Pelager's fifteen.

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01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 26: To the tenth to the five touchdown Giants On a

2432
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 26: third and sixteen, Dark kept it alive, Pellinger made himself available,

2433
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 26: and the Giants with an improbable third down conversion score.

2434
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 1: People ask me all the time, why do you do

2435
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 1: every game? Some of the games don't matter? You know,

2436
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: they all matter to us, and know ask me that.

2437
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 1: That's just the thing that people say when they say

2438
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 1: something that they want to say. Usually the people don't

2439
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:07,440
Speaker 1: ask them, you know what I mean? On Twitter's like

2440
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people were asking, uh, where my link

2441
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:10,400
Speaker 1: is to my article?

2442
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:13,320
Speaker 8: Here it is for more people should be talking about

2443
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 8: how NFL Daily covers every single game.

2444
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: We just do it because every game there's only two

2445
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two of these, right, And Bob Papa

2446
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 1: and Carl Banks got to call a Giants win. The

2447
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 1: Giants did the thing that the Giants do, which is

2448
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 1: win late season games to ruin their draft stock. And

2449
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 1: I know you think that's unfair and it doesn't matter. Well,

2450
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 1: they could add Drake by Patrick if they hadn't done

2451
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:35,600
Speaker 1: it a couple of years look.

2452
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 3: Gret they have Jackson Dart.

2453
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 2: So the problem is ultimately stall of and great call

2454
01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 2: by Bob and Carl there, but they called it an

2455
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 2: improbable play, but it was the most likely outcome against

2456
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five Dallas Cowboys defense.

2457
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 3: Where Jackson Dart looks great.

2458
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 2: He throws a backhand pass on third and super long

2459
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 2: to Daniel Bellinger and he houses it from twenty nine

2460
01:57:57,600 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 2: yards out, because that's the type of play we expect

2461
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 2: from the Eberflus defense as the season's gone on, and

2462
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 2: you know, the overall dark concern was is he going

2463
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 2: to look good? Is it going to take care of himself?

2464
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 2: He still put his body in harm's way several times

2465
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 2: in this game, had a couple of designed runs, a

2466
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 2: couple of scrambles as well. But I think the evaluation

2467
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 2: is Jackson Dart's pretty good and they feel good about

2468
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 2: it going into twenty.

2469
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 1: Six to One of my issues with the Tyler Shuck

2470
01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:26,040
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year thing is that if you're just

2471
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 1: looking at the numbers like Jackson Darts, numbers are better,

2472
01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 1: and he played a lot like Jackson Darts.

2473
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 4: Weirdly, because the.

2474
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 1: Concussion story, I think I don't think he's underrated in

2475
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 1: terms of how he played this year, but like he

2476
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 1: had a very promising season. I think it closed pretty

2477
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 1: well too. He runs for thirty two yards, but the

2478
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 1: last few weeks he's just been steady. He gets Gunner

2479
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 1: Olschewsky over one hundred yeards in this game. Afterwards, we

2480
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 1: heard from the Cowboys a report that it could take

2481
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 1: up to two weeks before they decide on their defensive

2482
01:58:56,480 --> 01:59:00,960
Speaker 1: coordinator for next year, which is interesting. Matt Eberfluss is

2483
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 1: expected to lose his job, but the Cowboys usually take

2484
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 1: their time. But yeah, Dak Prescott played the first half

2485
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:09,240
Speaker 1: of this game. I don't think they were winning at

2486
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 1: halftime anyways, and then they brought in Joe Milton, and yeah,

2487
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:16,000
Speaker 1: they didn't really go all out to try to win

2488
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 1: this game, and so they finished with seven wins on

2489
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 1: the season. And yeah, the Giants are four and two

2490
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 1: in weeks seventeen and eighteen.

2491
01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 4: Over the last three years.

2492
01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 1: And if you just start their record in week seventeen,

2493
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:34,120
Speaker 1: Week eighteen three years ago, they're four and twenty eight otherwise,

2494
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 1: so that.

2495
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 4: It just not ideal.

2496
01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 8: The news room was quiet for a stretch, and I

2497
01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 8: was not watching this game, and all of a sudden,

2498
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 8: I just hear Patrick from behind his cubicle. We got

2499
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:51,800
Speaker 8: Joe Milton, and that told me everything I needed.

2500
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 1: To know about Joe Milton was going is playing in

2501
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 1: week eighteen to help decide a top five pick. Where

2502
01:59:57,720 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 1: it's going to be is now an annual tradition. Knocked

2503
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots down a couple spots. They ended up with

2504
02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 1: Will Campbell. The Giants get knocked down a couple spots.

2505
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:09,320
Speaker 1: They're at the number five spot now. And that's about

2506
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,280
Speaker 1: all we need to say on this game. Let's wrap

2507
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:16,200
Speaker 1: up with the Raiders and the Chiefs. Pete Carroll before

2508
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:21,040
Speaker 1: the game was widely reported to be on the way out.

2509
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:23,600
Speaker 1: Not a surprise, but all the insiders finally went in

2510
02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 1: on that it was you gonna be Pete Carroll's last

2511
02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:29,120
Speaker 1: game as a head coach of the Raiders. Certainly he

2512
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:32,360
Speaker 1: knew that going into the game, which made this ending

2513
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 1: all the more satisfying.

2514
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 15: It'll be from sixty.

2515
02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:42,840
Speaker 4: For the win. Paul puts it down.

2516
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:51,000
Speaker 6: The kick is on its way, so from sixty.

2517
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:56,280
Speaker 4: Second to go, the Raiders out the lead.

2518
02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:59,160
Speaker 15: Had a chance at this season.

2519
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 4: Life is short.

2520
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 1: If you have the chance to scream at the top

2521
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:11,200
Speaker 1: of your lungs like Jason Horowitz and Kirk Morrison did

2522
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:16,000
Speaker 1: for a fourteen to twelve Raiders victory over the Chiefs

2523
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:19,880
Speaker 1: in Week eighteen. You should scream like you don't know

2524
02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:23,640
Speaker 1: what promised tomorrow. Kyle sant An said it. We may

2525
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:25,360
Speaker 1: not be here for the wildcard.

2526
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 4: Route though, I don't know. Ye, all the world's going crazy.

2527
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 1: Raiders win, and I gotta say I kind of live

2528
02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:39,520
Speaker 1: for Aidan O'Connell throwing it to Tyler Lockett to set

2529
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:42,920
Speaker 1: up a game winning field goal for Daniel Carlson in

2530
02:01:43,080 --> 02:01:44,760
Speaker 1: what could be Pete Carroll's last game.

2531
02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:48,080
Speaker 4: Like that, to me in a cents is actually great.

2532
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:50,680
Speaker 4: Week eighteen, What a sentia.

2533
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:52,120
Speaker 8: Greg Who are the quarterbacks in this game?

2534
02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 1: I know you have a list of that That was

2535
02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:57,680
Speaker 1: gonna be the only notes I wrote for this game. Well,

2536
02:01:57,800 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 1: Chris Olidoukin, Yeah, he started the game. He was benched

2537
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:08,240
Speaker 1: for Shane Bischelle right yep. On the other side, Kenny Pickett,

2538
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:11,480
Speaker 1: who took took some some tough hits, but he was

2539
02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 1: bench for performance reasons for Aidan O'Connell, who if I'm

2540
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:19,360
Speaker 1: gonna make like the lamest take ever, like should have

2541
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 1: been playing this whole time. He's obviously better at NFL

2542
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:23,560
Speaker 1: football than Kenny Pickett.

2543
02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 8: Fiery Week eighteen Late podcast takes from Greg Rose.

2544
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 4: Yes, I guess he was hurt.

2545
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 3: That was right.

2546
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:33,480
Speaker 1: He was hurt for most of the season and recently

2547
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:36,320
Speaker 1: got healthy. But Aidan O'Connell is probably better than twenty

2548
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:37,840
Speaker 1: twenty five Geno Smith to admit.

2549
02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:40,360
Speaker 2: That's what Aidan O'Connell does is win late season games

2550
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 2: against the Kansas City Chiefs. This time he threw from

2551
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:45,400
Speaker 2: more yards actually in limited opportunity than the last time

2552
02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:47,440
Speaker 2: he beat the Chiefs late in the season.

2553
02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:52,879
Speaker 1: The only bummer was they showed Travis Kelsey after Carlson

2554
02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:53,840
Speaker 1: made the kick.

2555
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 8: It. That was the only bummer about this game, the

2556
02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:57,520
Speaker 8: only one.

2557
02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:01,360
Speaker 1: Of that final result. Yes, I mean of that final kick,

2558
02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 1: which was pretty joyous. Think about those Raiders fans. Those

2559
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:06,080
Speaker 1: are the most expensive seats in the league to watch

2560
02:03:06,120 --> 02:03:07,080
Speaker 1: this Raiders team this year.

2561
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 4: They deserve it. They deserve a little fun. So does

2562
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:09,680
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll.

2563
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:13,280
Speaker 8: What a career watching their teammate history. They're selecting first

2564
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:14,680
Speaker 8: overall in this year's draft.

2565
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:17,400
Speaker 1: That made it even like more guilt free because the

2566
02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 1: Giants lost in the early window, which clinched the one

2567
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:23,320
Speaker 1: pick for the Raiders, so they could win without even

2568
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:26,040
Speaker 1: any mixed emotions. And I think it's cool. Carol is

2569
02:03:26,080 --> 02:03:29,200
Speaker 1: an all timer. I love me some Pete Carroll and

2570
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:32,440
Speaker 1: this season was a total disaster, but it just went on.

2571
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:34,520
Speaker 1: I bet it meant a lot to him, don't you

2572
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:36,560
Speaker 1: think Patrick like so that means a lot to him.

2573
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:37,200
Speaker 4: It means something.

2574
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was out there. He wasn't out there to

2575
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:43,520
Speaker 2: have a bad season like this, you know, devolved into hilarity.

2576
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 2: But good for Pete, good for the Raiders, good for

2577
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:48,240
Speaker 2: the fans. As you pointed out, they've they've been through

2578
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:50,160
Speaker 2: a lot. That place was rocking when theyre.

2579
02:03:50,120 --> 02:03:50,760
Speaker 4: It really was.

2580
02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:54,760
Speaker 1: And yeah, the Kelsey looked look pretty emotional, like a

2581
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 1: guy who it might be his last game. I think

2582
02:03:57,520 --> 02:03:59,800
Speaker 1: he just had one catch for under ten yards in

2583
02:03:59,800 --> 02:04:01,840
Speaker 1: this game, and it's a tough way to go out.

2584
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:04,760
Speaker 1: I think he wanted that final just like good moment

2585
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:07,440
Speaker 1: after what obviously it has been a really tough season for.

2586
02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:10,840
Speaker 8: The said I've been here longer. I called dibbs on

2587
02:04:11,080 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 8: going out with the good moment.

2588
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:12,480
Speaker 3: Bear.

2589
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Chiefs will pick in the top ten. The

2590
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 1: Raiders are number one the official draft order.

2591
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:19,360
Speaker 4: You're curious.

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Speaker 1: The Jets did finish at number two, so they got

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Speaker 1: some help today and the Cardinals number three, moved up

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Speaker 1: a few spots during this nine game losing streak to

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Speaker 1: end the season. The Titans are next, Then the Giants,

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Speaker 1: who moved the most down in the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: are to number five. Browns and Commanders round out the

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Speaker 1: top seven.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 4: We did it week eighteen live on YouTube.

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Speaker 8: We did it live.

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Speaker 4: We did it. We had coaches, we had lots of fun,

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Speaker 4: and yes we had the call of the year. Should

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Speaker 4: we hear uh? Why did we hear? Paul Allen?

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Speaker 9: Like?

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Speaker 4: One more time? Now, let's get out of here. We'll

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Speaker 4: be back.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate everyone checking us out Live. Will be going

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Speaker 1: live on Saturday night in the playoffs, but we also

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Speaker 1: have shows all week long, including a big coaching.

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Speaker 4: Roundup on Monday with Nick Schuck.

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Speaker 1: You can check us out then for Patrick Claibahn, Jordan

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Speaker 1: Rodrigue and Nick Shook.

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Speaker 4: It was a treat hey justin mill Master Len say goodbye.