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Don't wait, don't hesitate. 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Let's Square handle the back end so you can keep 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: pushing your vision forward. 34 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: Crypto confidence versus banking banking sector trust. 35 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, the thing that I keep stressing is and there 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: are billions of dollars of losses on the books of banks. 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 5: No one has still wrung the alarm about it. 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 4: Maybe the Department of Efficiency will do so next year. 39 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: But I think we're at a very interesting inflection point 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: where people trust like the JP Morgan w MAD, Bank 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: of America w MAD. But the reason why, part of 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 4: the reason why crypto took off so much is the 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 4: trust and the banks are solo that people wanted an 44 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 4: alternative currency to be able to look at. And I 45 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 4: wonder will they start to use crypto with the banks 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 4: at scale start to use in this collateral to offset 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: these big ass losses that they have in the medium 48 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 4: sized banks like these banks have not recovered. Also too, 49 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 4: the erosion of California is pretty damn scary. No one's 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: talking about that. We have a sector that is melted 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 4: down in mid sized banks. So I'm wondering at some 52 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: point where they ask for a bailout, invest that money 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: into crypto and then offset or hide those losses going 54 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: to twenty twenty seven by doing that. But I think 55 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 4: we're definitely at an inflection point where the people as 56 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 4: a mass are tired of being taken advantage of by 57 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: financial institutions. 58 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: And what I said before also was to have ten 59 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 3: percent of your holdings in bitcoin. That was something years ago, 60 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: years ago in crypto, So I still think that that's true. 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: I think if you have a portfolio of investing, ten 62 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: percent should be a crypto. Now, if you want to 63 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: do a little bit more, you can, but out of 64 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: that ten percent, fifty percent should be in bitcoin, maybe 65 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: a little bit higher, but and then the rest spread 66 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: out amongst all coins. So Bitcoin should not be equal 67 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: to all coin holdings as far as like, in my opinion, 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: shouldn't have the same amount of Bitcoin as you have dogecoin, 69 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: like you can have spread out across four different all coins. 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, there's only one Bitcoin, so you got to 71 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: you gotta favor to win in favor, you know, the 72 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: most stable and the shortest bet in this situation, so and. 73 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 5: The most from institutions big. 74 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: Coin for sure. Ethereum is a good second choice. Solana 75 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: Mike Novgrats talked about that that's number four in market cat, 76 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: which is really number three when you look at the 77 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: coins because USD is number three. So Solana looks promising. 78 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: Binance has always been there. That's a coin that actually 79 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 3: you know, it is tied to an exchange and x 80 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: r P. We've talked about that one doge coin, I 81 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: don't no dog eighty a another one that we've talked 82 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: about before. 83 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 5: Faster, I love you, but you got to innovate faster. 84 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: Then you start just going down these you know, Tron 85 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: and she but e U and all of these coins. 86 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: Just you gotta be careful with those, man, but ten 87 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: and fifty well be a good strategy. For you. And 88 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: if you want to be a little bit even more risky, 89 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 3: maybe you want to do twenty percent of your portfolio 90 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: on crypto long term. 91 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 5: Hold yep, but it. 92 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: Got to be at least at least half of that 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 3: has to be in bitcoin. At least half of it 94 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: has to be a bitcoin. 95 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: And bitcoin is the original fractional shit. 96 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: Right. 97 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: Somebody was like, do I need one hundred thousand? No? No, 98 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: At the point you're buying fractions of a bigcoin. 99 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: If you have one hundred thousand and obviously you purchased it, 100 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: yes you would own a bitcoin, but you don't have 101 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: to own a bitcoin. You can have fractions of a bitcoin. 102 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: And so at that point you're really looking at percentages. 103 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: Right. 104 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: So if you're seeing percentage growth, if I started with 105 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: ten thousand, where can that ten thousand grow to as 106 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: bigcoin grows? 107 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: So that's how you got to kind of look at it. Yeah. 108 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: I saw a video on Twitter of a guy who 109 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: bought thirty dollars a day for years. I think he 110 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 4: ended up putting like eighty seven thousand, and it ended 111 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 4: up being like one point one million in terms of return. 112 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: M So same thing dollar costs average, It's what I'm saying, like, 113 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: the same lessons apply to every asset class. 114 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 5: Just hold for a long period of turn time. 115 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: Invest If you have conviction in a stock or asset, 116 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: hold it for a long period of time. I don't 117 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: know anybody this held bitcoin for a year and they 118 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: were like, damn, I got the maximum gain versus holding 119 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: for four years, highest return and asking on the planet. 120 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 4: If you're talking long term, the rent to repeat, man, 121 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 4: a lot of investment is just stopping the questions that 122 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: are causing you to not execute. What platform, Well, what 123 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: about a bitcoin derivative? What about for all the informations there? 124 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: Same with stocks, same with the videos, same with Apple, 125 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: same with Microsoft AMD. But yeah, and going into this 126 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 4: fifth year, we are going to elevate. 127 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 5: Though. 128 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: If you miss out there on the Mastermind, that's on you. 129 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 4: But I promise you we're taking this thing to a 130 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 4: a higher level. Please don't mess out. Every country on Earth, 131 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: we came out and told you the assets to invest in, 132 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: and we've seen the companies actually by this shit in 133 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 4: front of your eyes. 134 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: Please don't out. 135 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to look at the percentage game of 136 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: bigcoin sins its inception. 137 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: I can't even read the percentage. 138 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 5: What it is, what product is? 139 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 4: Micro strategies sell outside of acquisition a bitcoin. Everybody put 140 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: it in chat to tell you how. 141 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 5: It's a genius play. 142 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: But if companies are leaning on hoarding assets, including black crop, 143 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: does that not tell you that should traditionally be a 144 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: hedge Your capac should not be another person's product. If tradition, 145 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 4: if you have a company amazing hedge, though, y'all go 146 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 4: give Kathy our credit. Though her issue was out to 147 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: her and everybody arc too many funds and too much trading. 148 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 5: Mike held his positions. 149 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: Imagine if Kathy would have just held all of our tesla, 150 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: all of our and video. I tried to add a 151 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: conversation with her after the best us all of our bitcoin. 152 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, the power of holding. 153 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, well maybe maybe a little bit more than ten percent. 154 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you want to do twenty. 155 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 5: But ten. 156 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: But out of that has to be a big coin, 157 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: don't My boy? 158 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: Chrisman on Twitter like put all over there. I'm like, yeah, 159 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: that's my dog man. Once you have conviction and the 160 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: asset galling, you guys have done with media, like the 161 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 4: lessons are there. You guys have seen us build business 162 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: in front of you. You've seen the thesis play out. 163 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 5: Great. 164 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: Hold for the long term. Put You may not like 165 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: my forty percent number. What percent percentage is Michael putting 166 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 4: in the bitcoin of his company? Take me out of it? 167 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: Maybe I'll meet the threshold that you need for financial 168 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 4: freedom even though I'm free. Let's go to Michael. How 169 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 4: much of bitcoin is he put into his company? Or 170 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: percentage revenue. 171 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: And then leveraging as their appreciations like crazy, But. 172 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 3: You still have to follow the same principles. Don't buy 173 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: all time highs, dollar cost, average, vitally important by the 174 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 3: top ones. Don't just go searching down to no name 175 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: coins because Bolton chain coin. 176 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, be careful. 177 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 4: Com Rocket not a good one. 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