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Speaker 1: prince as soon as you said princes. Everything got percouted
Speaker 1: me right here. I'm just yeah, your story Now, I
Speaker 1: don't know did he answered the phone, because I felt
Speaker 1: like he answered like, hello, I'm checking. Prince friend was
Speaker 1: low like hello, Okay, I saw it him because he
Speaker 1: came to my UM I am album released party and
Speaker 1: no Princess Prince. So was he flowing? He was? Okay?
Speaker 1: He was, he was, and he had this bad joint
Speaker 1: with him and I was like, yo, and then from
Speaker 1: the last Dragon and I just you know, I said it.
Speaker 1: I said it. I pulled the Nory move. I said, yo, look,
Speaker 1: you know, let's do this say this song. And he
Speaker 1: was like, you know, do you on your masters? So
Speaker 1: when we get to to the session, we get the
Speaker 1: session is set in stone. But when I get there,
Speaker 1: like Quest is telling me like, yo, I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: like sorry about what? Like Yo, the session is still going,
Speaker 1: but you know the God is here. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: you mean to God? He's like Princess here. At the time,
Speaker 1: Prince was in the studio and he was playing this
Speaker 1: new album for Warners. Now this is I guess after
Speaker 1: the whole Slave thing. I think he was back on
Speaker 1: track with Warner Brothers and he had this new album
Speaker 1: that Yeah, so he took control over all the studios
Speaker 1: and Electric Lady so that the Warner brother people could
Speaker 1: be listening to all these different tracks. I'm a Prince fan,
Speaker 1: but as a man, I was fucking pissed. Basically, everybody
Speaker 1: had a cousin that was from the Bronx, which everybody
Speaker 1: probably lies cool with Flash or hurt Um, but it
Speaker 1: was just like you would get these tapes. There would
Speaker 1: be a hundred generation tapes of Tea Connection and the Fever,
Speaker 1: and you would basically imagine what these parties were like.
Speaker 1: You know, to me, it was thousands of people in
Speaker 1: these parties and there was massive sound systems, and those
Speaker 1: parties could have been in the room like this, but
Speaker 1: it was just what you got and what you imagine.
Speaker 1: But that that was it, you know, we um. I
Speaker 1: feel like the hip hop scene in Philly was create
Speaker 1: ate it off of what we thought it was in
Speaker 1: New York. And I was going doing interviews for my
Speaker 1: first and second album. The only two record from the
Speaker 1: Songsball getting played on the radio was Juvenile hun you
Speaker 1: Don't Know Now and Master P make him say uh,
Speaker 1: and I think the who I think the baddest thing
Speaker 1: ever came out of New York. M No disrespect the
Speaker 1: Biggie or jay Z. They better never forget Dr Mix,
Speaker 1: never forget so Dr Zeus. Chad Elliott goes, Yoe, you
Speaker 1: like that all that hip hop? You know, because I'm
Speaker 1: hip hop like, I can't help it. I love hip
Speaker 1: hop and he identified it. He said, you should funk
Speaker 1: with these guys up in Yonkers and Riders hadn't heard
Speaker 1: of no He so he said, when we get off
Speaker 1: the toll, I'm gonna plug you with why in this
Speaker 1: rapper nicker named d M Max So he does that.
Speaker 1: I go to fucking yak Is to meet them. The
Speaker 1: first time I met he was in the Fun Up Projects.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was called slow burn or
Speaker 1: whatever the projects up they called, but there was more
Speaker 1: fucked up, like like when I went up there, it
Speaker 1: was different from like left Frack or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: It was like it felt like a country. You stay here,
Speaker 1: niggas and don't move. So all of the windows was broken,
Speaker 1: the doors dripped off the hinges. So I'm outside waiting
Speaker 1: and sticks his head out of one of the broken windows,
Speaker 1: which is I was like, yo, nigga, you move yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm waiting sitting there, wait and you just see
Speaker 1: X well, I mean out of second I was. But
Speaker 1: he could cut himself easily, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I met him and why and they brought me
Speaker 1: an MPC sixty and was like, you know, produce, I
Speaker 1: just had some ship on my chest. Okay, well it
Speaker 1: was shot him man, Okay, okay, damn Charlemagne. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to see and face to face and let him know,
Speaker 1: you're slip. Stop playing with me. Respect me. You're disrespecting
Speaker 1: my name. You're playing with me up here right, let's
Speaker 1: respect on his name. We got respect on your name
Speaker 1: over here that we got this name. So did you
Speaker 1: know that was the most viewed, like, um, two minutes
Speaker 1: and how viral that? Yeah, that was that was vil
Speaker 1: That was vil like And I can tell you just
Speaker 1: trying to keep you a composure. You know, you know
Speaker 1: you can't trying to like nig have a nigga behind
Speaker 1: the wall. But but you haven't talked to the media
Speaker 1: since that's real ship you sat down with us. Try
Speaker 1: not to, but you know, you a different culture. Bron
Speaker 1: Queens was having a hard time right where NAS came
Speaker 1: out with All Mattic. For those couple of years, it
Speaker 1: was like it was cool because people it was like
Speaker 1: we pooled ourselves. Listen, this is all new news to me.
Speaker 1: I didn't know I had to get a coach, Sanna.
Speaker 1: I've been telling niggas for years. Yeah, I just because
Speaker 1: if big white Man offered me a million hours. You
Speaker 1: don't know me how much you think I'm working so
Speaker 1: in order for rapp or hip hop to grow and
Speaker 1: had to grow outside of its for media base, right
Speaker 1: and for it to get that big. It's now all inclusive.
Speaker 1: So when you first heard hustling, every day I'm hustling,
Speaker 1: and every day I'm hustling. Flattered, I get this. This
Speaker 1: vand this piece of crap jump ye over and a
Speaker 1: fifteen passenger and I stopped running up and down Guy
Speaker 1: are Brew of Merrick Boulevard and Rockaway picking up people
Speaker 1: for dollar the dollar. DrAk Arrest as a leader, he's
Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite rappers ever. So when I
Speaker 1: first when I was putting out the Automatic, it was
Speaker 1: like almost two show k Arrest one. It was almost
Speaker 1: that was part of my drive because I had to
Speaker 1: because of what he had done, So I had to.
Speaker 1: It was part of it was like, yo, look, Caress
Speaker 1: were here, so you know, he's one of my favorites ever.
Speaker 1: But never mind saying that it changed the course of
Speaker 1: Queens or whatever changed the course of hip hop period.
Speaker 1: It's like, did you even imagine that you would just changed,
Speaker 1: like the evolution of hip hop, because it, to me,
Speaker 1: it changed. It was a new era in hip hop
Speaker 1: when Thematic came out. Yeah yeah, yeah. I mean we
Speaker 1: had rock Him and we had we had lyrics, but
Speaker 1: it just it felt different after Atmatic, I feel you,
Speaker 1: it was like I had to represent. It was like
Speaker 1: like Norri said that the pressure was on the Borough
Speaker 1: and my projects, so it was like and then just
Speaker 1: getting in the game. You had to have something to say.
Speaker 1: So I definitely had to push it. Push it's the
Speaker 1: penning hard because it's not. They never flew. They offered
Speaker 1: me a deal with Jimmy Bean with a million dollars deal. Wow,
Speaker 1: because he was already back in interscope already. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: so this is the beginning. That was. That was the beginning.
Speaker 1: They had Sugar and Puffy at that time. They say,
Speaker 1: if you signed this deal with us, then we'll have
Speaker 1: the South. We had the streets and I was in
Speaker 1: there with s men seat. You know, she would like
Speaker 1: take the million dollars. Yeah, my brother say take the
Speaker 1: million dollars. I say, no, man, I'm gonna go get
Speaker 1: some lunch. I told. I told Jimmy, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: some lunch. I come back. He said, if you don't
Speaker 1: come back, you'll never get a deal in this time.
Speaker 1: So I left me and See on the plane about
Speaker 1: to fight. Were on Southwest Airlines. I ain't got no
Speaker 1: what did you eat for lunch? You even pe Nutson
Speaker 1: in the coach. You know what I'm saying, I'm next,
Speaker 1: I'm next to seeing He he mad, because you want
Speaker 1: to take the money, and it's gonna You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm like, bro, if this white man offered
Speaker 1: me a million, is he don't know me? How much
Speaker 1: you think I'm working? You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: that's that's when we just got quiet and said, man,
Speaker 1: it's going back to the project and do what we
Speaker 1: gotta new. And I just start selling CDs like the
Speaker 1: Trunk of My Car. You want you to do MTV CRIZ.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, cool. They say, yo, we
Speaker 1: we got a house that we would like to put
Speaker 1: you and I was like, oh work, And I had
Speaker 1: to think about that ship. My my brand was on
Speaker 1: the line. And other time, how many goal albums you happen?
Speaker 1: At this time, I think I had like four albums.
Speaker 1: But just in the midst of that decision I had
Speaker 1: to make a real, real executive decision on that uh
Speaker 1: on that answer, And I said, you know what, now
Speaker 1: I don't want to rent a house. I want you
Speaker 1: all to come to my house. And they don't have
Speaker 1: no idea where the funk they was coming to? Now
Speaker 1: where was this house? That this house was a stat
Speaker 1: neller And see what happened with no no, it was
Speaker 1: this was like a real estate project. I was doing
Speaker 1: this ship. So this was like my first little real
Speaker 1: estate ship. I was like, I'm fixing, but I get
Speaker 1: there staring and the because I had nowhere to go
Speaker 1: true story and ship. Yeah yeah, I end up living that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know where to go. So so these motherfuckers
Speaker 1: showed up like a half hour early, trying to be
Speaker 1: all cocky and ship at my door, you know, half
Speaker 1: hour early, and they they came in my ship. It
Speaker 1: was like, damn, this is where you're staying there for real.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, this is where we're shooting that
Speaker 1: for real. What what do you? What do you? What
Speaker 1: do your stance on a culture vot? I never really
Speaker 1: thought about I hate the word throwing around a lot,
Speaker 1: but I never really gave it thought or what it
Speaker 1: meant or this and that. Truthfully, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: There's so many people have different definitions for it. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really look at it or say
Speaker 1: this person is a part of stealing the culture or
Speaker 1: doing this to the culture, this and that. To me,
Speaker 1: if the culture it's a match culture right now. So
Speaker 1: in order for rap or hip hop to grow and
Speaker 1: had to grow outside of it's a media base right,
Speaker 1: and for it to get that big, it's now all inclusive. Right,
Speaker 1: there's skating, basketball, this sock like everybody listens to the music.
Speaker 1: That's why I grew so big. So to me, it's
Speaker 1: just mash culture right now. So if somebody's taking advantage,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a color thing. It could be
Speaker 1: a black person or white person. If that's the case.
Speaker 1: To say, if they're a culture vote, you're not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. What do you what do you think about
Speaker 1: that word? I mean, I agree with what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I think it's just complicated, like it's just who determines
Speaker 1: who is the cultural vote, right, because I mean you
Speaker 1: have to go into that person history where they come from.
Speaker 1: You don't know what their life entails that that makes
Speaker 1: them a part of the culture or not. Right, that's true.
Speaker 1: I mean it's true what you're thinking, or I have
Speaker 1: no idea to tell you the truth. Because, um, if
Speaker 1: a person comes from outside of our culture quote unquote,
Speaker 1: and and it's just as dedicated as me, then I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta show some love, like as a person
Speaker 1: kind of made me. You know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: say because I don't want to like selfish myself out
Speaker 1: and say like, well, if a person made me a
Speaker 1: certain amount of money or put me in the position,
Speaker 1: then you know, how could it be a coaching moot?
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't. I don't really get it.
Speaker 1: I don't really know you know what I mean. So um,
Speaker 1: I try to, but I'm trying to be enlightened, like
Speaker 1: to even maybe maybe people have to differentiate business and culture.
Speaker 1: That's where it gets money. Because if that's the case,
Speaker 1: you you could be from you could be from reggae
Speaker 1: thrown and coming and doing hip hop and that's desidered
Speaker 1: you know, being a coaching vot. It's a gap, commercial gap,
Speaker 1: but it's good, right is that the first like and
Speaker 1: he said in it for us by us on the moat?
Speaker 1: So it was that the first time like foodbull got
Speaker 1: national recognition. We had already had a little bit of
Speaker 1: national recognition because I think a couple of people of
Speaker 1: warning on their videos videos um you said, odib Mr
Speaker 1: Jones okay okay um who else method Man and a
Speaker 1: couple of people already wanted brand Nubian. So so they
Speaker 1: had already when they wore an ice cream video and
Speaker 1: a lot of a couple of other things. And I
Speaker 1: think l A Warden the Hey Love video, He's sitting
Speaker 1: on the rock and queens. So when you first heard
Speaker 1: hustling every day, I'm hustling every day. I'm hustling flattered, flattered,
Speaker 1: and hot. You said that's hot, he said, okay, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: flattering and flatter at the same time. So I don't
Speaker 1: really know how to feel about this thing that's dope.
Speaker 1: So I get on the phone. I started calling people
Speaker 1: in who know this story, you know, because I still
Speaker 1: got my music. You know, I found Alcoholics while I
Speaker 1: was in prison. But wait, the group the Alcoholics, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's got signed. Wait hold on, because your baby's go backwards?
Speaker 1: How did you go out with that? Whoa started like yoga?
Speaker 1: Yeah started the backward? How did you start that? Um?
Speaker 1: I love this name called Stop Sound. Uh as a DJ,
Speaker 1: like I just want you know. My mother was from
Speaker 1: the country Waynesburro, Georgia. She always was saying, my house,
Speaker 1: you know you better like eat up everything in your plate,
Speaker 1: like take that bread and stop up the syrup. So
Speaker 1: Sound was like I was a DJ, blin all these
Speaker 1: sounds and stop up all these sounds. The DJ. So
Speaker 1: when I started back towards trying to be an MC.
Speaker 1: I just turned everything backwards. Pass stop became past, you know,
Speaker 1: sound became done. You know what I'm saying, God damn it.
Speaker 1: I said it's gonna be no limit to my success.
Speaker 1: I named myself master because I'm a master what I do.
Speaker 1: But what's the difference between like Freeway taking the name,
Speaker 1: Rick Ross taking the name because between them both they
Speaker 1: got both of you. You know they're not the only ones.
Speaker 1: We got Rich out of out of Kansas City, free Rich.
Speaker 1: Oh you ain't never heard of rich? Damn? I told
Speaker 1: that one went over my head. Rich Rich is hard Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: like Kansas City s Goyd Okay, the Bay Area I think,
Speaker 1: I think, I think that hard. I go to Kansas City.
Speaker 1: He set it out, but they set it out for you. Okay,
Speaker 1: what was your first name? I see my first rap
Speaker 1: name was empty Yahoo with the ball to being not good,
Speaker 1: not good. But I knew it was, I saying, I
Speaker 1: I c yeah, just I told you you had us
Speaker 1: in You know what the are you talking about? That story?
Speaker 1: Y'all out like a light switch, like a like switch.
Speaker 1: Nobody was like Stephan Maulberry, who in the cloth with
Speaker 1: all the at your feet, make you do the Paul
Speaker 1: dash to affection. I got it made special, I got
Speaker 1: it made start out the highest time. I'm not a
Speaker 1: fort the reaking, but I'm speaking so that you know,
Speaker 1: so I understand. I got to give the speech. So
Speaker 1: it's the blessing. Listen to the teach Let me tell
Speaker 1: you my first roup. I said, um, when I was six.
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk because when I was six,
Speaker 1: I did a stick up in my Tnker truck. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one of my first. My ship was called down
Speaker 1: with Me, Down with Me, it is what you need
Speaker 1: to be chilling and cooler. If now you just hissed
Speaker 1: the ring literally expression this because I'm the best thing.
Speaker 1: I'm blowing over and then I'll blow you a kid away,
Speaker 1: it would it had no choice but to be the
Speaker 1: illest album because these three niggas would have been going
Speaker 1: at each other, and they would have been in that
Speaker 1: imagining that studio, in that Swiss beat to that guy.
Speaker 1: He that beat is in his flaming. You know. Jay
Speaker 1: would be over the concer because you don't write right,
Speaker 1: so he's on X would be at the fucking ship
Speaker 1: animated at the board jas over there because John stopped
Speaker 1: writing once he picked up the ship. He picked it
Speaker 1: up from home and John would be over there and
Speaker 1: trust me, they would have been spitting. Was going through it.
Speaker 1: One night, one night I was in the studio with him.
Speaker 1: He just got yeah, he's listen, didn't tell My first
Speaker 1: experience was Jay, it's time to build the Maderantimo record.
Speaker 1: And Jay's this staff because I'm letting X who done
Speaker 1: his verse already, He's like, and this was my whole
Speaker 1: life in the next like five seven years, Yo, you're
Speaker 1: gonna you want extra clothes. And at that point in
Speaker 1: hip hop, whoever closed. So I'm like, I like his energy,
Speaker 1: peeling niggas caps like go oranges hit him in the
Speaker 1: head with two performing ches. I'm a grimy niggas and
Speaker 1: what like you know what I'm saying this niggas? I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I like his energy on it? Ja, Yo, stop the music.
Speaker 1: You think he's better than me? I'll realize what I
Speaker 1: dealt with with these three niggas, Yo, Yo, not got
Speaker 1: your stop hold on? Do you think he's better than me?
Speaker 1: This is Jay? And then Jay shipped on him. Do
Speaker 1: you listening to this time to build funk. What the
Speaker 1: next nigga done me? No? Preak wise, did you feel
Speaker 1: it was better than I don't know why, but that
Speaker 1: crescent came up so much like like like I would
Speaker 1: imagine competition wise, you guys are true and see you
Speaker 1: would feel you're better than the next one. To be
Speaker 1: totally honest, I felt like we were. We also called
Speaker 1: ourselves the X Men, you know what I mean, so
Speaker 1: all of us collectively, Yeah, we we did. We did
Speaker 1: a g Q photo spread as the X Men. And
Speaker 1: I'm saying, um, and that's to say that everybody is
Speaker 1: signified by their own special and unique power, you know.
Speaker 1: Not break Away is like I was, I made up
Speaker 1: some ship. I was, I was whoever and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, but I was powerful though now but not
Speaker 1: so like it wasn't that kind of competition. We felt
Speaker 1: like we were. We were supporting each other, like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it was a real family
Speaker 1: vibe Me and Drag all the way back to the
Speaker 1: third grade, man, like we all a lot of us,
Speaker 1: A few of us know each other longer, like that's
Speaker 1: probably one of the longer relationships in the entire Dunget family.
Speaker 1: But then again, I grew with Temo. He's a little
Speaker 1: bit of us strewed over from me. And I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like he's three years older than me. But you know,
Speaker 1: he graduated with my sister, So I had always seen him,
Speaker 1: you know, all my whole life, you know, but no,
Speaker 1: man like, it was never that kind of competition. But
Speaker 1: you know, I will say this for the record, killing
Speaker 1: Mike if you're mentioning him and he's a he's a
Speaker 1: real grade. I'm seeing my opinion and I'm saying, you're
Speaker 1: feeling a lot of people's opinions. Great person over all around.
Speaker 1: But um. He said in the g Q interview that
Speaker 1: he thought I was the best side of the Dungeon family.
Speaker 1: Did you know that? KP. Yeah, he said that. So
Speaker 1: that's him. You're probably at the end of you ask him.
Speaker 1: But I never thought like that. I just when I
Speaker 1: think about family, when I think about crew, I just
Speaker 1: come to play my position, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you played to my strength, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: so I'm just here to be a soldier for it.
Speaker 1: That's it. But it's the same think it's a instore,
Speaker 1: goddamn it. I just think you fiving in that field
Speaker 1: jump and we just stuck with it, kept it. Goddamnit
Speaker 1: got that you're still open up champaign but so so goddamn.
Speaker 1: I don't wait to start. I told you stop. Dam
Speaker 1: just a red man anyway, hold on, So I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to take it, don't Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: take a drink, take a simple let me let me
Speaker 1: pray about because I take a drinking. Champaign is cool.
Speaker 1: It's cool. It's champaigne champagne. Do this for my niggers.
Speaker 1: All right, that's like a little man. It's just we're
Speaker 1: gonna do today. We start the way trip daddy. Goddamn it.
Speaker 1: That didn't taste like et boody at all. Man, How
Speaker 1: do you escape the bullshot? Okay, Solot terrible man, You're legend.
Speaker 1: Thank you, gonna be so much to hip hop. We
Speaker 1: want to tell you to your faith. It's always the
Speaker 1: conversation was always good, The moments were always cool. Should
Speaker 1: we make some lois for that? Like a week later,
Speaker 1: Snoop Carming was like, hey, snapping you you know we're
Speaker 1: using that as a single. I put it against well,
Speaker 1: we didn't know who Jay was at the time. I
Speaker 1: just put it up. If the deal had that went right,
Speaker 1: I would have been on end game. Anybody I ever
Speaker 1: put in a movie or anybody I I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie like every other day you were like Vegas or
Speaker 1: somewhere like you you have a platinum agent or is
Speaker 1: that is that? That is that your no, you gotta relax.
Speaker 1: Was kind of really a collective. It was collective. It
Speaker 1: was connective. So like it was, it was such a
Speaker 1: strong entity and a strong presence of namesakeing the see that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it was natural for
Speaker 1: everybody to kind of assume it, you know, like because
Speaker 1: of the association, you know what I'm saying, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and everybody was kind of coming from different places, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Andre and Twine, like you know
Speaker 1: Antoine is it's big Boy's real name. You know, we
Speaker 1: went to school that let me, let me try to,
Speaker 1: let me try to just pace myself. I'm excited to
Speaker 1: be like you one of my favorite artist, you know.
Speaker 1: And to me, that's dope, and that's coming from that's
Speaker 1: coming from a legend. You know, that's dope. And to me,
Speaker 1: that's the entire purpose of it. Because if you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be here to do some great things here. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because if you're gonna be somebody
Speaker 1: that's just kicking it and cool with niggas and getting
Speaker 1: beach to do ship, just chill, just sit back, far back,
Speaker 1: go hang out and check of burgers and self and
Speaker 1: why not it's not please? Is this absolutely okay? And
Speaker 1: so and so I think as you said, it came
Speaker 1: to my mind. Yeah, so so then UM, a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes later, Drake called me. You tell me, you
Speaker 1: know he had echo sound you want to come through
Speaker 1: you know see what you got? I think, I just
Speaker 1: I think the phone was still in the air, and
Speaker 1: when I was already at the door was already moving.
Speaker 1: And so I ended up going to the studio. Uh.
Speaker 1: It took me by fifteen minutes to write that, and
Speaker 1: then UM, I laid it and then I shook his
Speaker 1: hand and I thank you for the opportunity. I didn't
Speaker 1: ask for who I should sit in an invoice too.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask, you know what the publisher and the year.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask what the split. I didn't give fun.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dr Dre. I appreciate it. Yeah, he said
Speaker 1: it was for top Dog this for for for Snoop's
Speaker 1: album Thank You for the Opportunity. Boom uh. Like a
Speaker 1: week later, you know, a couple of weeks later, Snoop
Speaker 1: comedies like age Nephew. You know we're using that as
Speaker 1: a singer. But I was like, my life is about
Speaker 1: to change. Hit him up, comes out? Oh Dog Pound
Speaker 1: comes to New York, right. And then this rumor that
Speaker 1: Biggie Smalls called the radio stage. No, that's not a rumor.
Speaker 1: That's actually true. It's just no one has proof for this. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's on the internet somewhere for sure. And this this
Speaker 1: was on your show, correct, it was actually I mean
Speaker 1: I was at that time. I used to run flexis Board,
Speaker 1: so I would be in the studio reflex but really
Speaker 1: with flexib show. You know. The reason why this this important,
Speaker 1: this this phone call is important is because this is
Speaker 1: actually the first time we get to see big stand
Speaker 1: up for something like for the most part, Um, have
Speaker 1: you ever had Snoop on? Yes, Snoop remembers all of
Speaker 1: this like word for word, and I have Snoop and
Speaker 1: I have had many conversations about this because I always
Speaker 1: dissected like that, because I always thought Snoop you know,
Speaker 1: Snoop and I have a little weird thing because that's
Speaker 1: when they were doing New York, New York the video, right,
Speaker 1: So Snoop remembers all of that very clearly, remembers the
Speaker 1: Big call. He remembers old people ran down here but
Speaker 1: described that to us for people who don't know because
Speaker 1: so Big, you course flex yeah he was on the
Speaker 1: but but people have to realize it wasn't like he
Speaker 1: called him to tell him about the You know, Big
Speaker 1: would often call into the radio. You know. So that
Speaker 1: night it was like, yo, they're shooting this video in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: like Brooklyn stand up. It was something to that fact.
Speaker 1: It was like, but that was it. It was like
Speaker 1: a Brooklyn stand up. It was it was a sign.
Speaker 1: It was that's a Snoop said. Sloop says, that's very clear.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that direction. Then it got shut up. They said,
Speaker 1: um it was that was the talk. So that was
Speaker 1: a talk. I just I couldn't believe he said it. So, um,
Speaker 1: it's over the album cover because Biggie I had a
Speaker 1: picture of young me on the cover and then Notorious
Speaker 1: b I g resct in Peace had a picture of
Speaker 1: a baby that was calling to be him supposed to
Speaker 1: be him, so of course people started comparing it because
Speaker 1: they was comparing us anyway. So then the album cover
Speaker 1: came and it was like, oh, so Go said it.
Speaker 1: I said, uh, it's straight blood sport out here. It's
Speaker 1: war absolutely when Go said that ship on a raised tape,
Speaker 1: oh that was crazy. That was crazy, man, because because
Speaker 1: it was something after that, I think puff Big called me.
Speaker 1: You've never heard this story? Now? Yeah, Big call me
Speaker 1: and he's like, yo, fucking with the wound niggers. You
Speaker 1: knew they said that ship. And he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: that's how you feel away, bro, because me and him
Speaker 1: was tight, so we you know. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I mean that's cool. Ghost faces, ghost Face, it's no
Speaker 1: love loss. I didn't know he's gonna say this ship,
Speaker 1: and he was just he was a little disappointed because
Speaker 1: he wasn't trying to bite off my ship. No, no,
Speaker 1: just just in general because he wasn't coming at it
Speaker 1: like that. Because if you listen to this album he
Speaker 1: rapped from, can You Tell? The whole story is so
Speaker 1: I never I didn't look I didn't look at like
Speaker 1: like I didn't look at it like that. It was
Speaker 1: just competition at that time. So at that time, I
Speaker 1: was like I was riding with that a little bit
Speaker 1: because it was competition, so it's just one for me.
Speaker 1: Like you said, there was an exclusive spot to be at,
Speaker 1: and uh like definitely, I'm you know, me and Biggie
Speaker 1: definitely kicked it out there plenty of times. Like Biggie
Speaker 1: used to be out there all the times, and I
Speaker 1: used to know when he was out there because if
Speaker 1: I pulled up and it was like champagne bottles lined up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was up there. Okay, top three ever? You know
Speaker 1: to me, he's you know, you got Richard Eddie and
Speaker 1: Damon Red Foxes. Aren't you named after Red fox Is
Speaker 1: in your middle name? First Foxes? You make me better?
Speaker 1: That was Hole was the record. Yeah, I think they
Speaker 1: made it for a whole, but I think it was
Speaker 1: too girly for Hole. So he now here's another sneaky
Speaker 1: thing behind that. S I'm getting it out. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Eve had the record. Yeah, Timberland made the joint and
Speaker 1: she had a whole different record, Make me Better for Eve,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that fit for it. It wasn't
Speaker 1: make me better, it was make me better. It wasn't
Speaker 1: win the hook and on. She had a whole another
Speaker 1: song she had to beat from Timerland and she made
Speaker 1: a whole different song to it. So when we're about
Speaker 1: to put it out, wend Timberland like, hold up, I
Speaker 1: think I get that beat the eve Eve got. We're
Speaker 1: like what, so we hit Eve up. But she was
Speaker 1: cool while she said she said truthfully like it's it
Speaker 1: was a single for us, this is this is a goal.
Speaker 1: But for her, she said it was like an album cut.
Speaker 1: She didn't really know, and she just you know, we
Speaker 1: went to dinner and she was like, yeah, y'all had
Speaker 1: a record and it's all good. I don't like the segregation.
Speaker 1: I don't like it, you know what I'm saying, the
Speaker 1: old hip hop the new hip hop. Yo, we like
Speaker 1: our old ship. You know, we agmatic niggas, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. A little baby album right, But like
Speaker 1: the young generation is xxax and like that. But we
Speaker 1: should all be together. We could like one music a
Speaker 1: different era music more than the other. But I I
Speaker 1: love the young nigga's ship. It's not that God, it's
Speaker 1: not that I gotta interrupt you. I think the younger
Speaker 1: dudes think that we're corny. I'm just the younger dudes
Speaker 1: think that we're corny because we don't funk with them
Speaker 1: and we don't think they could spit or we don't
Speaker 1: think that it's just a division and miss the fucking drink.
Speaker 1: Chance is you could help funk with him. I think
Speaker 1: there's a level of hip hop that does not belong
Speaker 1: to hip hop and like subgenre type stuff. Well, just
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't believe that. I don't believe
Speaker 1: that a lot of the commercial hip hop that's on
Speaker 1: the radio is picked by the fans a certain label,
Speaker 1: which is Tommy Boy Records, which I was signed to
Speaker 1: at one point as well. And I've I've made how
Speaker 1: I uh stand. I said, funk Tommy Boy. The niggas
Speaker 1: just suck. It was very elegant. It was a very
Speaker 1: elegant statement for what sports on myself. But when I
Speaker 1: heard that, the fact that they wanted to take your
Speaker 1: catalog and we distributed it at a rate of temper cent,
Speaker 1: and that temper sent would be split between the three
Speaker 1: of y'all, he presented an option, the option we spoke
Speaker 1: about that we felt was unfavorable. It was either we
Speaker 1: do this if we didn't respond at a certain time,
Speaker 1: then he would resort back to original contracts, which was
Speaker 1: contracts we signed from one. So we responded, We responded
Speaker 1: and saying that, you know, we responded like we were
Speaker 1: supposed Yeah, so it was supposed to then go from there,
Speaker 1: but we didn't really get any communication going until the
Speaker 1: final hour. No one gave a shit about hip hop
Speaker 1: until they realized that hip hop was making money. When
Speaker 1: we boycotted the Grammys, it was because you wanted to
Speaker 1: put it on television or you wanted to exploit it
Speaker 1: on television, but you didn't want to show the category.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait a minute, hip hop was all
Speaker 1: to believe. I want to say this might have been
Speaker 1: eight arguably the top three music genre in the world.
Speaker 1: If you got nine country and Western categories that you're televising,
Speaker 1: then you're gonna televise one of these hip hop categories
Speaker 1: because on the scale, it should be up there, every
Speaker 1: hip hop category and should be up there based off
Speaker 1: of the level of the music. And so for them
Speaker 1: to kind of disrespect it, and this was at a
Speaker 1: point in time that you had radio and talk show
Speaker 1: hosts that were blatantly saying hip hop is a fat
Speaker 1: it's so together you boycotted the dam him? Did it
Speaker 1: after you describe? We were just you know, we got together,
Speaker 1: Salt and Pepper, everybody who was nominated, and we were
Speaker 1: just like, we're not going. We're gonna go to all
Speaker 1: of the functions and we're gonna talk about why we're
Speaker 1: not going because they not only were we nominated, but
Speaker 1: they wanted me and Will to perform. So we were
Speaker 1: like and understand at that time saying no, you don't
Speaker 1: know if this is the kiss of death, Like, are
Speaker 1: you in a position to say something that they're just
Speaker 1: gonna say? You know, but everybody kind of band together. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's why, you know, hip hop has kind of
Speaker 1: for a while kind of gotten to be a staple
Speaker 1: in the grand I'm a fast forward. One of my
Speaker 1: best friends is riding over red Man's sisters. Where was
Speaker 1: my boyfriend when I was in the ninth grade? I
Speaker 1: had faith on the show? Oh yes, And she said,
Speaker 1: y'all datd you were her first, like official boyfriend. Well
Speaker 1: did he say boyfriend or friends? She said boyfriend? And
Speaker 1: then yeah, yeah earlier he was a drummer in the church. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's sung in the church too. You know what's funny.
Speaker 1: Um No, Faith was the first woman. I've never said it.
Speaker 1: First Faith was the first woman my mother caught us
Speaker 1: in the band with. She was the first woman my
Speaker 1: mother caught us where she was. My mother came in
Speaker 1: there when she was like, get your motherfucking answers about
Speaker 1: my goddamn room. But that was my love though. That
Speaker 1: was that was waving too. So that was that was
Speaker 1: like legalized, like certain how they got common law marriages,
Speaker 1: like like the side nigga you want to legalize, like
Speaker 1: sh nigga, Like if I catch your chin, I'm at
Speaker 1: your nigga and be like hey, chicken out, I girl
Speaker 1: tripping like girl tripping. I know you've been paying the being.
Speaker 1: I had to making sure she had money in and
Speaker 1: when you be busy with your other girl, I'd be
Speaker 1: there for her. And now she with another dude like
Speaker 1: she I'm your shin. You need to listen to your
Speaker 1: side and your husband. Legally, we need to have some
Speaker 1: kind of what exactly went wrong with you and a
Speaker 1: shot I got. I need to hear this. They've never
Speaker 1: heard this. It was a real thing meeting because yeah,
Speaker 1: because you let me see you know, let me tell you,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something before we continue. You know
Speaker 1: what BJ right? I told b J said, y'all, what
Speaker 1: the funk she wants me to say? She wants me
Speaker 1: to lie because she'll get it on hand. She'll get
Speaker 1: on hand. She'll probably listen, she'll get on hand if
Speaker 1: you had on drink Champs or whatever, she'll probably like,
Speaker 1: I never fun with gotty and she'll I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do that. I'm like, but I'm giving to you really
Speaker 1: like me and Hunt? Dare I say it was in love?
Speaker 1: What would you call a situation where but wasn't complicated
Speaker 1: because of the Absolutely it was complicated with you. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you. So at one point boy Brown was like,
Speaker 1: your lady, Yeah, we were kicking up. Were kicking at
Speaker 1: one time at one point yeah. So was that like
Speaker 1: like he was gonna move forward or no? The most
Speaker 1: definitely were kicking and you know we had a good time.
Speaker 1: It was always yeah, it's most definitely. It's always. The
Speaker 1: conversations was always good. The moments were always cool. Should
Speaker 1: we make some noise for that? Like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: we made a culture, niggas, the minorities, we made this
Speaker 1: culture and fucking holds a billionaire dreys a billionaire. Did
Speaker 1: he's a billionaire? Kanye, Come on, man, I don't like
Speaker 1: the segregation. I don't like it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: The old hip hop the new hip hop. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a boss if I wouldn't first and foremost give
Speaker 1: it up to the ones they came before that. I
Speaker 1: was able to absorb some game from you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That was Luke Scott Walker, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. The jay Z's Daddy's and the list go on.
Speaker 1: You know what i mean, Ja Princes, The list goes
Speaker 1: on and on. But you know, I took my time
Speaker 1: to get here, and I just made sure I building
Speaker 1: truthp on with the team. I'm proud of you, my brother,
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing what you do. Continue, list Let's
Speaker 1: keep building, you know, listen, not forget about the next generation.
Speaker 1: And the only way we're gonna keep this going is
Speaker 1: we have to do it is us helping us. And
Speaker 1: so I'm proud of what you're doing, taking your time,
Speaker 1: bringing brothers together. You know what I'm saying. I feel
Speaker 1: like everything happens and guards time, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And this this is something that needed to happen. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. God damn it, this ship is
Speaker 1: sucking me up. Yeah. Thanks for joining us for another
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