WEBVTT - Episode 192 "Last Call of 2019"

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<v Speaker 1>And this drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper.

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<v Speaker 1>He's agree that's your boy in the or he's a

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<v Speaker 1>Miami hip hop pioneer up his d J e f N.

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<v Speaker 1>Together they drink it up with some of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast, and yet number

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<v Speaker 1>one source were drunk back drinkes. Mother is New Year's

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<v Speaker 1>Z That's time for drink Champ trick up for the

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<v Speaker 1>We had this thing where we wanted to represent ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>lyrically out of Miami. I just wanted to see and

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<v Speaker 1>face to face and let him know you're slim stopped

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<v Speaker 1>playing with me for the nor move. I said, yok,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's do this. So he took control over

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<v Speaker 1>all the studios and Electric labels so that the Warner

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<v Speaker 1>brother people could be listening to all these different tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>What I appreciate growing up in Florida, especially Miami, we

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<v Speaker 1>respected every area cold when it comes to music. All

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<v Speaker 1>of the windows was broken, the doors dripped off the hinges.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm outside waiting and sticks his head out of

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<v Speaker 1>one of the broken windows, which I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>nig you move, you gonna get yourself. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the hip hop scene and billy was created off of

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<v Speaker 1>what we thought it was in New York. Fucking product.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to drink? This thing has gotta budet. I

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<v Speaker 1>heard you. I just want to get money with yo.

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<v Speaker 1>What it good be? Holies? What sup? This is your boy?

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<v Speaker 1>And o R? What up is DJ E Fens and

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<v Speaker 1>this militated crazy walk crazy drink? Hey y'all, don't step

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<v Speaker 1>y'all little dame. That last time I was here a

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<v Speaker 1>little unconfortable and one camera one came little stool. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling the video man, all right, you ready? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>An't time to my sleep? Kind of I need to

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<v Speaker 1>be like I want to be like, Yeah, we'll make

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<v Speaker 1>some looks. Watch let's what's the name of the award?

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<v Speaker 1>The National Film and Television A television A war but

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<v Speaker 1>in to drink Champs fashion. We're seeing one of our

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<v Speaker 1>friends to go pick up the war. We don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna win. By the way, we get a Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>night lost, so we didn't think we're gonna win. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're sitting our home jim Jimmy Kimbers against and our Holmie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try to know and our Homie actually goes there,

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<v Speaker 1>gets the award, and in to drink champs fashion, he

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<v Speaker 1>breaks the award getting into his uba. So he sent

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<v Speaker 1>the award to us. This is true drink championship, right man.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, it's not good ship you finish. Here's one

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. Here's the part that said national film

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<v Speaker 1>achieving broken. Right man, he's a party. I got it,

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<v Speaker 1>I got one. Who is it? Prince? I arrested these

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<v Speaker 1>prince as soon as you said princes. Everything got percouted

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<v Speaker 1>me right here. I'm just yeah, your story Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know did he answered the phone, because I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like he answered like, hello, I'm checking. Prince friend was

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<v Speaker 1>low like hello, Okay, I saw it him because he

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<v Speaker 1>came to my UM I am album released party and

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<v Speaker 1>no Princess Prince. So was he flowing? He was? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>He was, he was, and he had this bad joint

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<v Speaker 1>with him and I was like, yo, and then from

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<v Speaker 1>the last Dragon and I just you know, I said it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said it. I pulled the Nory move. I said, yo, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's do this say this song. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, do you on your masters? So

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<v Speaker 1>when we get to to the session, we get the

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<v Speaker 1>session is set in stone. But when I get there,

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<v Speaker 1>like Quest is telling me like, yo, I'm sorry, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like sorry about what? Like Yo, the session is still going,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know the God is here. I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 1>you mean to God? He's like Princess here. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>Prince was in the studio and he was playing this

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<v Speaker 1>new album for Warners. Now this is I guess after

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<v Speaker 1>the whole Slave thing. I think he was back on

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<v Speaker 1>track with Warner Brothers and he had this new album

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<v Speaker 1>that Yeah, so he took control over all the studios

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<v Speaker 1>and Electric Lady so that the Warner brother people could

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<v Speaker 1>be listening to all these different tracks. I'm a Prince fan,

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<v Speaker 1>but as a man, I was fucking pissed. Basically, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>had a cousin that was from the Bronx, which everybody

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<v Speaker 1>probably lies cool with Flash or hurt Um, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like you would get these tapes. There would

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<v Speaker 1>be a hundred generation tapes of Tea Connection and the Fever,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would basically imagine what these parties were like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, to me, it was thousands of people in

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<v Speaker 1>these parties and there was massive sound systems, and those

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<v Speaker 1>parties could have been in the room like this, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was just what you got and what you imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>But that that was it, you know, we um. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the hip hop scene in Philly was create

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<v Speaker 1>ate it off of what we thought it was in

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<v Speaker 1>New York. And I was going doing interviews for my

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<v Speaker 1>first and second album. The only two record from the

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<v Speaker 1>Songsball getting played on the radio was Juvenile hun you

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<v Speaker 1>Don't Know Now and Master P make him say uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the who I think the baddest thing

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<v Speaker 1>ever came out of New York. M No disrespect the

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<v Speaker 1>Biggie or jay Z. They better never forget Dr Mix,

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<v Speaker 1>never forget so Dr Zeus. Chad Elliott goes, Yoe, you

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<v Speaker 1>like that all that hip hop? You know, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop like, I can't help it. I love hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop and he identified it. He said, you should funk

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<v Speaker 1>with these guys up in Yonkers and Riders hadn't heard

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<v Speaker 1>of no He so he said, when we get off

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<v Speaker 1>the toll, I'm gonna plug you with why in this

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<v Speaker 1>rapper nicker named d M Max So he does that.

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<v Speaker 1>I go to fucking yak Is to meet them. The

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<v Speaker 1>first time I met he was in the Fun Up Projects.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was called slow burn or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the projects up they called, but there was more

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up, like like when I went up there, it

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<v Speaker 1>was different from like left Frack or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like it felt like a country. You stay here,

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<v Speaker 1>niggas and don't move. So all of the windows was broken,

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<v Speaker 1>the doors dripped off the hinges. So I'm outside waiting

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<v Speaker 1>and sticks his head out of one of the broken windows,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I was like, yo, nigga, you move yourself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm waiting sitting there, wait and you just see

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<v Speaker 1>X well, I mean out of second I was. But

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<v Speaker 1>he could cut himself easily, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I met him and why and they brought me

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<v Speaker 1>an MPC sixty and was like, you know, produce, I

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<v Speaker 1>just had some ship on my chest. Okay, well it

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<v Speaker 1>was shot him man, Okay, okay, damn Charlemagne. I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to see and face to face and let him know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're slip. Stop playing with me. Respect me. You're disrespecting

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<v Speaker 1>my name. You're playing with me up here right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>respect on his name. We got respect on your name

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<v Speaker 1>over here that we got this name. So did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that was the most viewed, like, um, two minutes

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<v Speaker 1>and how viral that? Yeah, that was that was vil

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<v Speaker 1>That was vil like And I can tell you just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to keep you a composure. You know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>you can't trying to like nig have a nigga behind

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<v Speaker 1>the wall. But but you haven't talked to the media

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<v Speaker 1>since that's real ship you sat down with us. Try

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<v Speaker 1>not to, but you know, you a different culture. Bron

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<v Speaker 1>Queens was having a hard time right where NAS came

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<v Speaker 1>out with All Mattic. For those couple of years, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like it was cool because people it was like

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<v Speaker 1>we pooled ourselves. Listen, this is all new news to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know I had to get a coach, Sanna.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been telling niggas for years. Yeah, I just because

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<v Speaker 1>if big white Man offered me a million hours. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't know me how much you think I'm working so

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<v Speaker 1>in order for rapp or hip hop to grow and

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<v Speaker 1>had to grow outside of its for media base, right

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<v Speaker 1>and for it to get that big. It's now all inclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you first heard hustling, every day I'm hustling,

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<v Speaker 1>and every day I'm hustling. Flattered, I get this. This

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<v Speaker 1>vand this piece of crap jump ye over and a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen passenger and I stopped running up and down Guy

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<v Speaker 1>are Brew of Merrick Boulevard and Rockaway picking up people

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<v Speaker 1>for dollar the dollar. DrAk Arrest as a leader, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of my favorite rappers ever. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>first when I was putting out the Automatic, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like almost two show k Arrest one. It was almost

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<v Speaker 1>that was part of my drive because I had to

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<v Speaker 1>because of what he had done, So I had to.

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<v Speaker 1>It was part of it was like, yo, look, Caress

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<v Speaker 1>were here, so you know, he's one of my favorites ever.

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<v Speaker 1>But never mind saying that it changed the course of

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<v Speaker 1>Queens or whatever changed the course of hip hop period.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, did you even imagine that you would just changed,

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<v Speaker 1>like the evolution of hip hop, because it, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it changed. It was a new era in hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>when Thematic came out. Yeah yeah, yeah. I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>had rock Him and we had we had lyrics, but

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<v Speaker 1>it just it felt different after Atmatic, I feel you,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like I had to represent. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>like Norri said that the pressure was on the Borough

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<v Speaker 1>and my projects, so it was like and then just

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<v Speaker 1>getting in the game. You had to have something to say.

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<v Speaker 1>So I definitely had to push it. Push it's the

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<v Speaker 1>penning hard because it's not. They never flew. They offered

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<v Speaker 1>me a deal with Jimmy Bean with a million dollars deal. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was already back in interscope already. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>so this is the beginning. That was. That was the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>They had Sugar and Puffy at that time. They say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you signed this deal with us, then we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>the South. We had the streets and I was in

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<v Speaker 1>there with s men seat. You know, she would like

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<v Speaker 1>take the million dollars. Yeah, my brother say take the

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars. I say, no, man, I'm gonna go get

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<v Speaker 1>some lunch. I told. I told Jimmy, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>some lunch. I come back. He said, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>come back, you'll never get a deal in this time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I left me and See on the plane about

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<v Speaker 1>to fight. Were on Southwest Airlines. I ain't got no

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<v Speaker 1>what did you eat for lunch? You even pe Nutson

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<v Speaker 1>in the coach. You know what I'm saying, I'm next,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm next to seeing He he mad, because you want

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<v Speaker 1>to take the money, and it's gonna You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I'm like, bro, if this white man offered

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<v Speaker 1>me a million, is he don't know me? How much

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<v Speaker 1>you think I'm working? You know what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's when we just got quiet and said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going back to the project and do what we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta new. And I just start selling CDs like the

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<v Speaker 1>Trunk of My Car. You want you to do MTV CRIZ.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, cool. They say, yo, we

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<v Speaker 1>we got a house that we would like to put

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<v Speaker 1>you and I was like, oh work, And I had

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<v Speaker 1>to think about that ship. My my brand was on

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<v Speaker 1>the line. And other time, how many goal albums you happen?

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<v Speaker 1>At this time, I think I had like four albums.

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<v Speaker 1>But just in the midst of that decision I had

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<v Speaker 1>to make a real, real executive decision on that uh

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<v Speaker 1>on that answer, And I said, you know what, now

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to rent a house. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>all to come to my house. And they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea where the funk they was coming to? Now

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<v Speaker 1>where was this house? That this house was a stat

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<v Speaker 1>neller And see what happened with no no, it was

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<v Speaker 1>this was like a real estate project. I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>this ship. So this was like my first little real

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<v Speaker 1>estate ship. I was like, I'm fixing, but I get

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<v Speaker 1>there staring and the because I had nowhere to go

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<v Speaker 1>true story and ship. Yeah yeah, I end up living that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know where to go. So so these motherfuckers

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<v Speaker 1>showed up like a half hour early, trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>all cocky and ship at my door, you know, half

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<v Speaker 1>hour early, and they they came in my ship. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like, damn, this is where you're staying there for real.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, this is where we're shooting that

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<v Speaker 1>for real. What what do you? What do you? What

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<v Speaker 1>do your stance on a culture vot? I never really

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<v Speaker 1>thought about I hate the word throwing around a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but I never really gave it thought or what it

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<v Speaker 1>meant or this and that. Truthfully, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many people have different definitions for it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't really look at it or say

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<v Speaker 1>this person is a part of stealing the culture or

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<v Speaker 1>doing this to the culture, this and that. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>if the culture it's a match culture right now. So

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<v Speaker 1>in order for rap or hip hop to grow and

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<v Speaker 1>had to grow outside of it's a media base right,

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<v Speaker 1>and for it to get that big, it's now all inclusive. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's skating, basketball, this sock like everybody listens to the music.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I grew so big. So to me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just mash culture right now. So if somebody's taking advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a color thing. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>a black person or white person. If that's the case.

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<v Speaker 1>To say, if they're a culture vote, you're not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. What do you what do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>that word? I mean, I agree with what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just complicated, like it's just who determines

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<v Speaker 1>who is the cultural vote, right, because I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go into that person history where they come from.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know what their life entails that that makes

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<v Speaker 1>them a part of the culture or not. Right, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's true what you're thinking, or I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea to tell you the truth. Because, um, if

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<v Speaker 1>a person comes from outside of our culture quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 1>and and it's just as dedicated as me, then I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta I gotta show some love, like as a person

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<v Speaker 1>kind of made me. You know, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>say because I don't want to like selfish myself out

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<v Speaker 1>and say like, well, if a person made me a

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<v Speaker 1>certain amount of money or put me in the position,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, how could it be a coaching moot?

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't. I don't. I don't really get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know you know what I mean. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>I try to, but I'm trying to be enlightened, like

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<v Speaker 1>to even maybe maybe people have to differentiate business and culture.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where it gets money. Because if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>you you could be from you could be from reggae

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<v Speaker 1>thrown and coming and doing hip hop and that's desidered

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being a coaching vot. It's a gap, commercial gap,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's good, right is that the first like and

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<v Speaker 1>he said in it for us by us on the moat?

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<v Speaker 1>So it was that the first time like foodbull got

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<v Speaker 1>national recognition. We had already had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>national recognition because I think a couple of people of

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<v Speaker 1>warning on their videos videos um you said, odib Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Jones okay okay um who else method Man and a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of people already wanted brand Nubian. So so they

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<v Speaker 1>had already when they wore an ice cream video and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a couple of other things. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think l A Warden the Hey Love video, He's sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on the rock and queens. So when you first heard

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<v Speaker 1>hustling every day, I'm hustling every day. I'm hustling flattered, flattered,

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<v Speaker 1>and hot. You said that's hot, he said, okay, alright, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>flattering and flatter at the same time. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know how to feel about this thing that's dope.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get on the phone. I started calling people

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<v Speaker 1>in who know this story, you know, because I still

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<v Speaker 1>got my music. You know, I found Alcoholics while I

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<v Speaker 1>was in prison. But wait, the group the Alcoholics, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got signed. Wait hold on, because your baby's go backwards?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you go out with that? Whoa started like yoga?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah started the backward? How did you start that? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I love this name called Stop Sound. Uh as a DJ,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just want you know. My mother was from

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<v Speaker 1>the country Waynesburro, Georgia. She always was saying, my house,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you better like eat up everything in your plate,

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<v Speaker 1>like take that bread and stop up the syrup. So

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<v Speaker 1>Sound was like I was a DJ, blin all these

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<v Speaker 1>sounds and stop up all these sounds. The DJ. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I started back towards trying to be an MC.

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<v Speaker 1>I just turned everything backwards. Pass stop became past, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sound became done. You know what I'm saying, God damn it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said it's gonna be no limit to my success.

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<v Speaker 1>I named myself master because I'm a master what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's the difference between like Freeway taking the name,

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Ross taking the name because between them both they

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<v Speaker 1>got both of you. You know they're not the only ones.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Rich out of out of Kansas City, free Rich.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you ain't never heard of rich? Damn? I told

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<v Speaker 1>that one went over my head. Rich Rich is hard Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like Kansas City s Goyd Okay, the Bay Area I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I think that hard. I go to Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>He set it out, but they set it out for you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what was your first name? I see my first rap

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<v Speaker 1>name was empty Yahoo with the ball to being not good,

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<v Speaker 1>not good. But I knew it was, I saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>I c yeah, just I told you you had us

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<v Speaker 1>in You know what the are you talking about? That story?

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all out like a light switch, like a like switch.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody was like Stephan Maulberry, who in the cloth with

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<v Speaker 1>all the at your feet, make you do the Paul

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<v Speaker 1>dash to affection. I got it made special, I got

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<v Speaker 1>it made start out the highest time. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>fort the reaking, but I'm speaking so that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I understand. I got to give the speech. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's the blessing. Listen to the teach Let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you my first roup. I said, um, when I was six.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a funk because when I was six,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a stick up in my Tnker truck. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of my first. My ship was called down

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<v Speaker 1>with Me, Down with Me, it is what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to be chilling and cooler. If now you just hissed

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<v Speaker 1>the ring literally expression this because I'm the best thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm blowing over and then I'll blow you a kid away,

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<v Speaker 1>it would it had no choice but to be the

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<v Speaker 1>illest album because these three niggas would have been going

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<v Speaker 1>at each other, and they would have been in that

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<v Speaker 1>imagining that studio, in that Swiss beat to that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He that beat is in his flaming. You know. Jay

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<v Speaker 1>would be over the concer because you don't write right,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's on X would be at the fucking ship

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<v Speaker 1>animated at the board jas over there because John stopped

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<v Speaker 1>writing once he picked up the ship. He picked it

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<v Speaker 1>up from home and John would be over there and

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, they would have been spitting. Was going through it.

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<v Speaker 1>One night, one night I was in the studio with him.

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<v Speaker 1>He just got yeah, he's listen, didn't tell My first

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<v Speaker 1>experience was Jay, it's time to build the Maderantimo record.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jay's this staff because I'm letting X who done

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<v Speaker 1>his verse already, He's like, and this was my whole

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<v Speaker 1>life in the next like five seven years, Yo, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna you want extra clothes. And at that point in

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop, whoever closed. So I'm like, I like his energy,

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<v Speaker 1>peeling niggas caps like go oranges hit him in the

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<v Speaker 1>head with two performing ches. I'm a grimy niggas and

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<v Speaker 1>what like you know what I'm saying this niggas? I said, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I like his energy on it? Ja, Yo, stop the music.

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<v Speaker 1>You think he's better than me? I'll realize what I

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<v Speaker 1>dealt with with these three niggas, Yo, Yo, not got

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<v Speaker 1>your stop hold on? Do you think he's better than me?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Jay? And then Jay shipped on him. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you listening to this time to build funk. What the

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<v Speaker 1>next nigga done me? No? Preak wise, did you feel

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<v Speaker 1>it was better than I don't know why, but that

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<v Speaker 1>crescent came up so much like like like I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine competition wise, you guys are true and see you

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<v Speaker 1>would feel you're better than the next one. To be

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<v Speaker 1>totally honest, I felt like we were. We also called

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves the X Men, you know what I mean, so

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<v Speaker 1>all of us collectively, Yeah, we we did. We did

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<v Speaker 1>a g Q photo spread as the X Men. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, um, and that's to say that everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>signified by their own special and unique power, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Not break Away is like I was, I made up

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<v Speaker 1>some ship. I was, I was whoever and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but I was powerful though now but not

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<v Speaker 1>so like it wasn't that kind of competition. We felt

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<v Speaker 1>like we were. We were supporting each other, like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like it was a real family

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<v Speaker 1>vibe Me and Drag all the way back to the

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<v Speaker 1>third grade, man, like we all a lot of us,

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<v Speaker 1>A few of us know each other longer, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of the longer relationships in the entire Dunget family.

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<v Speaker 1>But then again, I grew with Temo. He's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of us strewed over from me. And I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's three years older than me. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he graduated with my sister, So I had always seen him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all my whole life, you know, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>man like, it was never that kind of competition. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I will say this for the record, killing

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<v Speaker 1>Mike if you're mentioning him and he's a he's a

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<v Speaker 1>real grade. I'm seeing my opinion and I'm saying, you're

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<v Speaker 1>feeling a lot of people's opinions. Great person over all around.

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<v Speaker 1>But um. He said in the g Q interview that

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<v Speaker 1>he thought I was the best side of the Dungeon family.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that? KP. Yeah, he said that. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's him. You're probably at the end of you ask him.

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<v Speaker 1>But I never thought like that. I just when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about family, when I think about crew, I just

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<v Speaker 1>come to play my position, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you played to my strength, you know what I mean. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm just here to be a soldier for it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. But it's the same think it's a instore,

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn it. I just think you fiving in that field

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<v Speaker 1>jump and we just stuck with it, kept it. Goddamnit

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>got that you're still open up champaign but so so goddamn.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't wait to start. I told you stop. Dam

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<v Speaker 1>just a red man anyway, hold on, So I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to take it, don't Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>take a drink, take a simple let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>pray about because I take a drinking. Champaign is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool. It's champaigne champagne. Do this for my niggers.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's like a little man. It's just we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do today. We start the way trip daddy. Goddamn it.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't taste like et boody at all. Man, How

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<v Speaker 1>do you escape the bullshot? Okay, Solot terrible man, You're legend.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, gonna be so much to hip hop. We

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 1>want to tell you to your faith. It's always the

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>conversation was always good, The moments were always cool. Should

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<v Speaker 1>we make some lois for that? Like a week later,

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Snoop Carming was like, hey, snapping you you know we're

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<v Speaker 1>using that as a single. I put it against well,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't know who Jay was at the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>just put it up. If the deal had that went right,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been on end game. Anybody I ever

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<v Speaker 1>put in a movie or anybody I I ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lie like every other day you were like Vegas or

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere like you you have a platinum agent or is

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>that is that? That is that your no, you gotta relax.

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<v Speaker 1>Was kind of really a collective. It was collective. It

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>was connective. So like it was, it was such a

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<v Speaker 1>strong entity and a strong presence of namesakeing the see that,

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like it was natural for

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody to kind of assume it, you know, like because

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of the association, you know what I'm saying, um, you know,

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>and everybody was kind of coming from different places, you

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Andre and Twine, like you know

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Antoine is it's big Boy's real name. You know, we

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>went to school that let me, let me try to,

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<v Speaker 1>let me try to just pace myself. I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>be like you one of my favorite artist, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, that's dope, and that's coming from that's

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>coming from a legend. You know, that's dope. And to me,

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the entire purpose of it. Because if you're not

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be here to do some great things here. You

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Because if you're gonna be somebody

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that's just kicking it and cool with niggas and getting

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>beach to do ship, just chill, just sit back, far back,

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>go hang out and check of burgers and self and

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>why not it's not please? Is this absolutely okay? And

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>so and so I think as you said, it came

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>to my mind. Yeah, so so then UM, a couple

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of minutes later, Drake called me. You tell me, you

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>know he had echo sound you want to come through

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you know see what you got? I think, I just

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I think the phone was still in the air, and

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>when I was already at the door was already moving.

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.239
<v Speaker 1>And so I ended up going to the studio. Uh.

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>It took me by fifteen minutes to write that, and

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>then UM, I laid it and then I shook his

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>hand and I thank you for the opportunity. I didn't

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>ask for who I should sit in an invoice too.

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask, you know what the publisher and the year.

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask what the split. I didn't give fun.

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Dr Dre. I appreciate it. Yeah, he said

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>it was for top Dog this for for for Snoop's

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>album Thank You for the Opportunity. Boom uh. Like a

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>week later, you know, a couple of weeks later, Snoop

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>comedies like age Nephew. You know we're using that as

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>a singer. But I was like, my life is about

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>to change. Hit him up, comes out? Oh Dog Pound

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>comes to New York, right. And then this rumor that

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Biggie Smalls called the radio stage. No, that's not a rumor.

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>That's actually true. It's just no one has proof for this. Oh,

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>it's on the internet somewhere for sure. And this this

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>was on your show, correct, it was actually I mean

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I was at that time. I used to run flexis Board,

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>so I would be in the studio reflex but really

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>with flexib show. You know. The reason why this this important,

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 1>this this phone call is important is because this is

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>actually the first time we get to see big stand

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>up for something like for the most part, Um, have

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you ever had Snoop on? Yes, Snoop remembers all of

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>this like word for word, and I have Snoop and

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I have had many conversations about this because I always

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>dissected like that, because I always thought Snoop you know,

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Snoop and I have a little weird thing because that's

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>when they were doing New York, New York the video, right,

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>So Snoop remembers all of that very clearly, remembers the

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Big call. He remembers old people ran down here but

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 1>described that to us for people who don't know because

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>so Big, you course flex yeah he was on the

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>but but people have to realize it wasn't like he

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>called him to tell him about the You know, Big

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>would often call into the radio. You know. So that

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>night it was like, yo, they're shooting this video in Brooklyn,

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>like Brooklyn stand up. It was something to that fact.

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>It was like, but that was it. It was like

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>a Brooklyn stand up. It was it was a sign.

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>It was that's a Snoop said. Sloop says, that's very clear.

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing that direction. Then it got shut up. They said,

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>um it was that was the talk. So that was

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>a talk. I just I couldn't believe he said it. So, um,

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>it's over the album cover because Biggie I had a

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>picture of young me on the cover and then Notorious

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>b I g resct in Peace had a picture of

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>a baby that was calling to be him supposed to

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>be him, so of course people started comparing it because

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 1>they was comparing us anyway. So then the album cover

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>came and it was like, oh, so Go said it.

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I said, uh, it's straight blood sport out here. It's

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>war absolutely when Go said that ship on a raised tape,

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>oh that was crazy. That was crazy, man, because because

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>it was something after that, I think puff Big called me.

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>You've never heard this story? Now? Yeah, Big call me

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, yo, fucking with the wound niggers. You

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 1>knew they said that ship. And he was like, Yo,

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that's how you feel away, bro, because me and him

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.719
<v Speaker 1>was tight, so we you know. I was like, yo,

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's cool. Ghost faces, ghost Face, it's no

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>love loss. I didn't know he's gonna say this ship,

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and he was just he was a little disappointed because

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't trying to bite off my ship. No, no,

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>just just in general because he wasn't coming at it

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>like that. Because if you listen to this album he

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>rapped from, can You Tell? The whole story is so

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I never I didn't look I didn't look at like

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like I didn't look at it like that. It was

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>just competition at that time. So at that time, I

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>was like I was riding with that a little bit

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>because it was competition, so it's just one for me.

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, there was an exclusive spot to be at,

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and uh like definitely, I'm you know, me and Biggie

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>definitely kicked it out there plenty of times. Like Biggie

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>used to be out there all the times, and I

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:28.719
<v Speaker 1>used to know when he was out there because if

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I pulled up and it was like champagne bottles lined up, Yeah,

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>he was up there. Okay, top three ever? You know

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to me, he's you know, you got Richard Eddie and

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Damon Red Foxes. Aren't you named after Red fox Is

0:33:42.000 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>in your middle name? First Foxes? You make me better?

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>That was Hole was the record. Yeah, I think they

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>made it for a whole, but I think it was

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>too girly for Hole. So he now here's another sneaky

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>thing behind that. S I'm getting it out. Let's go.

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Eve had the record. Yeah, Timberland made the joint and

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>she had a whole different record, Make me Better for Eve,

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if that fit for it. It wasn't

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>make me better, it was make me better. It wasn't

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 1>win the hook and on. She had a whole another

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:33.879
<v Speaker 1>song she had to beat from Timerland and she made

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 1>a whole different song to it. So when we're about

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to put it out, wend Timberland like, hold up, I

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>think I get that beat the eve Eve got. We're

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>like what, so we hit Eve up. But she was

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>cool while she said she said truthfully like it's it

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>was a single for us, this is this is a goal.

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>But for her, she said it was like an album cut.

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>She didn't really know, and she just you know, we

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>went to dinner and she was like, yeah, y'all had

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>a record and it's all good. I don't like the segregation.

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it, you know what I'm saying, the

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:28.320
<v Speaker 1>old hip hop the new hip hop. Yo, we like

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>our old ship. You know, we agmatic niggas, you know

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. A little baby album right, But like

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the young generation is xxax and like that. But we

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>should all be together. We could like one music a

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 1>different era music more than the other. But I I

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 1>love the young nigga's ship. It's not that God, it's

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:53.240
<v Speaker 1>not that I gotta interrupt you. I think the younger

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>dudes think that we're corny. I'm just the younger dudes

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 1>think that we're corny because we don't funk with them

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 1>and we don't think they could spit or we don't

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>think that it's just a division and miss the fucking drink.

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Chance is you could help funk with him. I think

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a level of hip hop that does not belong

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to hip hop and like subgenre type stuff. Well, just

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I don't believe that. I don't believe

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of the commercial hip hop that's on

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the radio is picked by the fans a certain label,

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>which is Tommy Boy Records, which I was signed to

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>at one point as well. And I've I've made how

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I uh stand. I said, funk Tommy Boy. The niggas

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>just suck. It was very elegant. It was a very

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>elegant statement for what sports on myself. But when I

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>heard that, the fact that they wanted to take your

0:36:55.200 --> 0:37:02.399
<v Speaker 1>catalog and we distributed it at a rate of temper cent,

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and that temper sent would be split between the three

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>of y'all, he presented an option, the option we spoke

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>about that we felt was unfavorable. It was either we

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>do this if we didn't respond at a certain time,

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>then he would resort back to original contracts, which was

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 1>contracts we signed from one. So we responded, We responded

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and saying that, you know, we responded like we were

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>supposed Yeah, so it was supposed to then go from there,

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>but we didn't really get any communication going until the

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 1>final hour. No one gave a shit about hip hop

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 1>until they realized that hip hop was making money. When

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 1>we boycotted the Grammys, it was because you wanted to

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.800
<v Speaker 1>put it on television or you wanted to exploit it

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>on television, but you didn't want to show the category.

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, wait a minute, hip hop was all

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to believe. I want to say this might have been

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>eight arguably the top three music genre in the world.

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>If you got nine country and Western categories that you're televising,

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna televise one of these hip hop categories

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.919
<v Speaker 1>because on the scale, it should be up there, every

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 1>hip hop category and should be up there based off

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>of the level of the music. And so for them

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>to kind of disrespect it, and this was at a

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.359
<v Speaker 1>point in time that you had radio and talk show

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 1>hosts that were blatantly saying hip hop is a fat

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>it's so together you boycotted the dam him? Did it

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 1>after you describe? We were just you know, we got together,

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Salt and Pepper, everybody who was nominated, and we were

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 1>just like, we're not going. We're gonna go to all

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 1>of the functions and we're gonna talk about why we're

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>not going because they not only were we nominated, but

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>they wanted me and Will to perform. So we were

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>like and understand at that time saying no, you don't

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>know if this is the kiss of death, Like, are

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you in a position to say something that they're just

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna say? You know, but everybody kind of band together. Um,

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's why, you know, hip hop has kind of

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>for a while kind of gotten to be a staple

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 1>in the grand I'm a fast forward. One of my

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 1>best friends is riding over red Man's sisters. Where was

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend when I was in the ninth grade? I

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>had faith on the show? Oh yes, And she said,

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>y'all datd you were her first, like official boyfriend. Well

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 1>did he say boyfriend or friends? She said boyfriend? And

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>then yeah, yeah earlier he was a drummer in the church. Yeah. Yeah,

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>she's sung in the church too. You know what's funny.

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Um No, Faith was the first woman. I've never said it.

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>First Faith was the first woman my mother caught us

0:39:52.800 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>in the band with. She was the first woman my

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>mother caught us where she was. My mother came in

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:08.760
<v Speaker 1>there when she was like, get your motherfucking answers about

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>my goddamn room. But that was my love though. That

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:17.320
<v Speaker 1>was that was waving too. So that was that was

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>like legalized, like certain how they got common law marriages,

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like like the side nigga you want to legalize, like

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:31.439
<v Speaker 1>sh nigga, Like if I catch your chin, I'm at

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 1>your nigga and be like hey, chicken out, I girl

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:39.919
<v Speaker 1>tripping like girl tripping. I know you've been paying the being.

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I had to making sure she had money in and

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>when you be busy with your other girl, I'd be

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>there for her. And now she with another dude like

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>she I'm your shin. You need to listen to your

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:59.800
<v Speaker 1>side and your husband. Legally, we need to have some

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of what exactly went wrong with you and a

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>shot I got. I need to hear this. They've never

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>heard this. It was a real thing meeting because yeah,

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>because you let me see you know, let me tell you,

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you something before we continue. You know

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>what BJ right? I told b J said, y'all, what

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>the funk she wants me to say? She wants me

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to lie because she'll get it on hand. She'll get

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>on hand. She'll probably listen, she'll get on hand if

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you had on drink Champs or whatever, she'll probably like,

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I never fun with gotty and she'll I'm not gonna

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 1>do that. I'm like, but I'm giving to you really

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:44.439
<v Speaker 1>like me and Hunt? Dare I say it was in love?

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>What would you call a situation where but wasn't complicated

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>because of the Absolutely it was complicated with you. Let

0:41:55.600 --> 0:42:00.320
<v Speaker 1>me ask you. So at one point boy Brown was like,

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 1>your lady, Yeah, we were kicking up. Were kicking at

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>one time at one point yeah. So was that like

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 1>like he was gonna move forward or no? The most

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 1>definitely were kicking and you know we had a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was always yeah, it's most definitely. It's always. The

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<v Speaker 1>conversations was always good. The moments were always cool. Should

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<v Speaker 1>we make some noise for that? Like, come on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we made a culture, niggas, the minorities, we made this

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<v Speaker 1>culture and fucking holds a billionaire dreys a billionaire. Did

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<v Speaker 1>he's a billionaire? Kanye, Come on, man, I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the segregation. I don't like it, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>The old hip hop the new hip hop. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be a boss if I wouldn't first and foremost give

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<v Speaker 1>it up to the ones they came before that. I

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<v Speaker 1>was able to absorb some game from you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. That was Luke Scott Walker, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. The jay Z's Daddy's and the list go on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what i mean, Ja Princes, The list goes

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<v Speaker 1>on and on. But you know, I took my time

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<v Speaker 1>to get here, and I just made sure I building

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<v Speaker 1>truthp on with the team. I'm proud of you, my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for doing what you do. Continue, list Let's

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<v Speaker 1>keep building, you know, listen, not forget about the next generation.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only way we're gonna keep this going is

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<v Speaker 1>we have to do it is us helping us. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm proud of what you're doing, taking your time,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing brothers together. You know what I'm saying. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like everything happens and guards time, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>And this this is something that needed to happen. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. God damn it, this ship is

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<v Speaker 1>sucking me up. Yeah. Thanks for joining us for another

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