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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This he's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Elliot to the Scot Tay and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomans. It is a wonderful Wednesday edition of Talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys presented by Tostitos, helping fans get in the game.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into the SWBC studios at the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 1: and boy, do we have a show for you. One

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Speaker 1: of the best matchups of the season. Are you Hike

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Speaker 1: oh man? I'm ready to talk about this one man.

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Speaker 1: Chiefs Offense, Cowboys defense who This is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: fun one and we've got plenty to talk about on

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Speaker 1: this one. As always. Heck Ma Harris and Isaiah stand back,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, We've got Chris Beam in the back. Everybody good,

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Speaker 1: Everybody buckled up, ready to go for this one. Strapped in, sir,

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Speaker 1: That's that's more like yes, it's not really buckled in,

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Speaker 1: it's more of like strapped down. Make sure the roller coasters.

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Speaker 1: Sorry sorry Rob, No, right, yeah, baby, seat around both

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Speaker 1: bull shoulders. Yes, yeah, it's going. I'm ready, put the

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Speaker 1: up and get ready to go. Heck mo, you're ready

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Speaker 1: of course already. Are you talking about? Let's go around

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Speaker 1: your neck pillow just in case it rubs and knicks

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Speaker 1: if I ever good on one. That is the most

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Speaker 1: bougie thing I think I've ever heard say. The kids

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Speaker 1: and I turned out for I'm like mc light. I'm

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Speaker 1: a rough nick, you know. But but the kids nowadays,

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Speaker 1: they're not do it to say truth true? Huh yeah, okay, okay, evolution.

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Speaker 1: I'll get back to you in a couple of years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you know a couple of years. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: mean putting it? I mean you said it. I'm not

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Speaker 1: coming with two? No, because the couple two isn't that

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Speaker 1: the reference a few a few let's say a few years. No,

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Speaker 1: don know what I'm saying to stop watch Chase put

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Speaker 1: you s got this? I'm gonna get like a message

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Speaker 1: from Rob that day and he's gonna be like, so

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Speaker 1: calendar and be like, what are you talking about? You're crazy? Oh.

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Speaker 1: So we are going to preview the Cowboys defense versus

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Speaker 1: that Chiefs offense and the Chiefs offense finding the rhythm

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Speaker 1: against the Las Vegas Raiders on Sunday night. Foot football

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Speaker 1: put up forty one points, the majority of those coming

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Speaker 1: in the second half of Before we get into that,

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Speaker 1: anything come out of yesterday. It was a day off

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, so kind of a slow Tuesday, right Rob,

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Speaker 1: It was slow. News wise was awesome. We touched on

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Speaker 1: tackle situation might look like if Tyrant Smith comes back

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Speaker 1: ask was is there any significance of having Debarcus Lawrence

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Speaker 1: we haven't gotten to that point, but he was around right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when he's been out there, and he's also ramping up

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Speaker 1: his rehab. I mean, he's doing more deering practice off

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Speaker 1: know you've been on a sideline like that before and

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Speaker 1: you like the sounds of the sideline too. Love In

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Speaker 1: terms of the video and that was released yesterday, but

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Speaker 1: Boy like we're sitting there with Chris. I'll be all here, Horsey.

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Speaker 1: They think they miss his presence and anytime you can

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's always good to have your boys there.

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you that extra juice. But yeah, in terms

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Speaker 1: it's a tasty one. They're going need every ounce of

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Speaker 1: I think initially teams were getting pressure. It's all derived

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Speaker 1: It's triggering for you, el ravo. And that's blueprint. I think.

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Speaker 1: But it's also that offensive line, right, that offensive line

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Speaker 1: brand new. These guys have five new guys up front. Wow,

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Speaker 1: they I mean from the starting from the left side.

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Speaker 1: These guys drafted Creed Humphrey. Their center drafted him this year,

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Speaker 1: I saw that yesterday. That was one. I wonder how

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Speaker 1: he got that. Yeah. I thought of the pimple. Yeah

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Speaker 1: it was not. That was a straight battle scar. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I feel like that would be easy. Now.

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Speaker 1: I didn't spend a whole lot of time with a

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Speaker 1: But it's instinctive. You're not thinking of Yeah, you're just instinct.

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Speaker 1: It's just a habit. It's like whenever you like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, you're just knuckle punching somebody. You do it

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Speaker 1: like four times in a row. You'd give him a

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Speaker 1: little short of shouldered pat Yeah, I don't know. You

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Speaker 1: just bow hit him like that. There you go, look

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Speaker 1: at those instincts. Yeah, yeah, that was quick. You had

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Speaker 1: Oh man, we haven't trouble, so there you go. Um

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Speaker 1: mentioned this going into the break. The big play for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys defensively has not really been the best calling

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Speaker 1: card for the dan Quinn's defense. There have been a

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Speaker 1: ton of improvements on that side of the football. The

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Speaker 1: big play has not been one of those. So how

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Speaker 1: do they avoid that against Kansas City? Is there are

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Speaker 1: a weakness that you've seen in Kansas City's offense that

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Speaker 1: can take away from the big player, maybe downgraded from there.

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Speaker 1: But is there anything that hack mother stands out to

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Speaker 1: you that where the Cowboys defense could try and maybe

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Speaker 1: something new to try and defend Kansas City. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you talked about the targets for Hill and Kelsey. Kelsey

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Speaker 1: last year had fourteen hundred yards as a tight end,

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Speaker 1: and it just you know that they want to target him.

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Speaker 1: I believe trying to take Kelsey away immediately is going

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Speaker 1: to be one of your best options. And also with

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Speaker 1: Isaiah saying about the offensive line, you know that if

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Speaker 1: you can get that pressure, contain the running game, those things,

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Speaker 1: those aspects to their offense, you gotta eliminate certain things.

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Speaker 1: He'll man. You just pray that you know he doesn't

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Speaker 1: because because he can take it to the house anytime.

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Speaker 1: And we saw that it was at twenty seventeen at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game on a hell Mary ball

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Speaker 1: or not even really hell Mary pass, he takes it

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Speaker 1: and he scores in twenty seventeen at the last minute

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Speaker 1: to go into halftime. I hated that place. Isn't it crazy?

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Speaker 1: I mean, and it's just one. It's just one of

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Speaker 1: those plays that he can make it anytime, and so

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Speaker 1: you gotta try and cloud this guy. Put him in

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Speaker 1: a situation where you when he gets the ball you

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Speaker 1: get him down immediately. You have to pick one or

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Speaker 1: the other, right, I mean, you can't. You can't double

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Speaker 1: both every play. And I think I think it seems

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Speaker 1: like teams are taking more chances just saying we'll take

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Speaker 1: our chances with Kelsey, which is no fun in its

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Speaker 1: own right. But tyreek Hill is just he can run

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Speaker 1: past anybody on any given play wreck the game, embarrass

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Speaker 1: you with his speed. So you know, that's that's what

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Speaker 1: it seems like they're doing. And Kelsey's been he hasn't

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Speaker 1: had the production that he's normally had so far, but

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Speaker 1: he's eating up. He broke out Sunday night though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: eating up and the Cowboys, you know, tight ends have

517
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Speaker 1: been a challenge at times, but Jayron Curse has been

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Speaker 1: a nice addition in terms of that, you know, counteracting that.

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Speaker 1: And Jordan Lewis, what he was able to do against

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts was really impressive. Yeah, I mean Kyle Pitts

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Speaker 1: took its lumps early. I mean he was catching a

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Speaker 1: couple balls in those opening drives, but then it was

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Speaker 1: shut down from then on out. So I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: not comparing Kyle Pitts at the moments. Travis Kelsey, but

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Speaker 1: Kelsey at some point, Yeah, I think they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: on a similar level. I think Kyle Pitts is that

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Speaker 1: type of player. But right this second, Kyle Pitts is not.

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Speaker 1: Right this second, Travis Kelsey, he said, what you gotta

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Speaker 1: put some weight on dah he will. Yeah, he's coming

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Speaker 1: out of floor. But I got a question for you

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Speaker 1: guys as far as dan Quinn is getting a lot

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Speaker 1: of accolades for his defense, but then in the same breath,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like this is disingenuous When people say, oh,

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Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense can only be effective if they have

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Speaker 1: a lead. Do you feel the same way about their defense?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like, Okay, they are effective when they

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Speaker 1: play with the lead versus and then you give dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn the kudos that he's getting right now. I just

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Speaker 1: I don't think those two things go together. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's entirely fair because Minnesota showed that they can

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Speaker 1: stand up and win a game for you against a

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Speaker 1: pretty good team, or at least a pretty good offense.

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Speaker 1: But I do think there's evidence over the for the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of this season, they have had the benefits

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Speaker 1: of we can tee off because we got, we got

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Speaker 1: leads coming. But it all works together because the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are posting all a lot of these points because they're

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Speaker 1: they're tied for second and interceptions in the league. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they got fourteen picks, They're right up there in terms

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Speaker 1: of takeaways. They're doing their part to help the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: offense as well. It is kind of tied together. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's entirely fair, but but that is You're right, like,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the narrative right now, is that they're

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Speaker 1: protecting the defense. You can look at two of the

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00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: last three wins and say that Patriots as well. You

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Speaker 1: came from behind in that game too. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: know you played with a lead late and then basically

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Speaker 1: gave that up and went into ot But I mean

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00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots and the Vikings game, I think you could

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Speaker 1: take as examples of the defense playing well enough for

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Speaker 1: you without a big lead. Every road game so far

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Speaker 1: this year has been decided by a single score. It's

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00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: been so every road game. Keep that in mind going

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Speaker 1: into Arrowhead, but it's been decided by a single possession

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Speaker 1: every single game so far this season on the road.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't say that the Cowboys have been playing with

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Speaker 1: the lead. They've only lost one of those games so

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Speaker 1: and that was the first one to Tampa Bay. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The one thing is it's been hard to test their

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Speaker 1: run defense this season. It's been very hard, and Denver

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00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: was able to do it, jumped out early and it

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00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 1: didn't go well at all. But this is a this

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Speaker 1: is a totally different matchup. We just talked about how

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Speaker 1: they're you know, they're not going to hand the ball

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Speaker 1: off thirty times, so I guess their luck runs out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Clyde Edwards a layer coming back. Now the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: were able to pass over a healthy sae Quon Barkley

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Speaker 1: and a healthy Christian McCaffrey, and now they get Clyde

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Speaker 1: Edwards a layer. But they're gonna get a client, all right. Um,

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Speaker 1: In terms of a big play, to address your question,

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Speaker 1: you can't stop these guys from having big plays, but

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Speaker 1: you can't limit them. That's I'm just gonna go ahead

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Speaker 1: and say that. It's like it's like facing freed Muhammad Ali.

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Speaker 1: I think you're not gonna get jabbed. You can let

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Speaker 1: me how many times you get jabb but you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get jabbed. So they're gonna get their big plays. You

587
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Speaker 1: have to pick your poison. So I think teams are

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Speaker 1: starting to take the approach in terms of trying to

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Speaker 1: find a way to double Hill some way, somehow he does.

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Speaker 1: So many of his routes are across the across the field,

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Speaker 1: and if you're playing man, you can't. You can't play man.

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Speaker 1: He's too quick. He's too fast. He's the fastest doing

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Speaker 1: the league, hands down. He's too quick. He's too fast,

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Speaker 1: So you can't jam him at the line of scrammisca.

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Speaker 1: He'll shake you up. If you play off, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: run right by you. If you try to double him,

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Speaker 1: then somebody else wins. So it's hard to stop him.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to say, hey, I'm gonna put

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Speaker 1: him one man on him, and I'm gonna put the

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Speaker 1: far safety and the near safety. You guys both have

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Speaker 1: to keep your eyes on him. So you're literally trying

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Speaker 1: to have three guys stop one person. So that's why

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Speaker 1: these other guys start having big games. So you're playing

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Speaker 1: too safeties high. Yeah, that man, I don't. I guess

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Speaker 1: you have too. He plays if you play single. Hi,

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Speaker 1: I understand this through film, saying you watch film too,

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Speaker 1: you can't guard him. Man, No, no, it's impossible. And

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Speaker 1: if you play zone, if you play a single high zone,

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Speaker 1: he's just gonna run across the field to the gap

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Speaker 1: over the other corner. Right. So essentially the blueprint is

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Speaker 1: that two safeties high and instead of going man, you're

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Speaker 1: passing them off. You oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: have you have to pass them off and you have

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Speaker 1: to to your point the game, Tennessee. What Tennessee did

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Speaker 1: so well against these guys was get hands on guys

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Speaker 1: as they crossed their zone. They were physical with him.

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Speaker 1: Get my hands on you. You're gonna run by me,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna push the crap out of you or

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Speaker 1: your jam you up a little bit, just to knock

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Speaker 1: you off just a little bit as you go into

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Speaker 1: the next zone. And then guess what our communication has

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Speaker 1: to be such that the next zone that you're going to,

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Speaker 1: my guy needs to be on his piece and Ques

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Speaker 1: and be ready. We need our guys up front, four

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Speaker 1: guys up front to try to get home as much

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Speaker 1: as possible. It sucks that Gregory, it sucks Thatt d

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Speaker 1: laws out, but we've been able to generate pressure without it.

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Speaker 1: But our four guys are going to have to try

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Speaker 1: to get home because these guys don't like to accept

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Speaker 1: the fact that he that his guys are covered. He

631
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Speaker 1: hates it. That's what's got him in trouble this year.

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Speaker 1: A lot of those miraculous what the things that make

633
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes great are the same things that make him

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Speaker 1: turn over. You know, you pretty turnover prone. So those

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Speaker 1: great plays or throws across across the formation, across the coverage,

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Speaker 1: all those kind of things, those become jump balls. And

637
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Speaker 1: as long as you have guys that are being physical,

638
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: and as long as you have guys that are staying

639
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: in their hip pockets and you're like a pinball going

640
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: down the field, those opportunities will present themselves. But just understand,

641
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: your character has to be such that you have to

642
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Speaker 1: be able to bounce back and put the last play

643
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: away because they're going to get their big plays. It's

644
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: gonna happen the same way the week at our big places.

645
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Speaker 1: It's gonna happen on both sides. Two things to play

646
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate to what you just said. One too high.

647
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Speaker 1: Safety is something that a lot of defense have done

648
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys this year, right and in the Cowboys

649
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: offense to their demise because the Cowboys have picked them

650
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: apart because of the weapons, because of the options and

651
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: the balance in terms of their games. They'll just turn in,

652
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: hand it off and pound you with Zeke and Tony exactly.

653
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: We have that option. Yeah, I don't know if Kansas

654
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: City has the extent of that option, but I think

655
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Speaker 1: they have an option to do that as well, especially

656
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Speaker 1: with as bad as the Cowboys run defense has been

657
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: at times this year. Because you think about it both ways.

658
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: Sure it's not Zeke, it's not Pollard, but Edwards, Hilaire

659
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: and Williams can still run the football efficiently. I mean,

660
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: we saw what Denver did. Melvin Gordon and Javante Williams

661
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: can run the ball efficiently as well, so too high safety.

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Speaker 1: It definitely concerns me if there's those options as a

663
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Speaker 1: whole from an offense. Secondly, you mentioned being physical. Has

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Speaker 1: there been a consistency of physicality on this Cowboys defense

665
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: this year, because I don't know if there has been.

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00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: We've seen moments Denver, for instance, where there's people sent

667
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Speaker 1: standing in the gap, hesitant to be physical at the

668
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: point of attack. So are those two things that the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys defense can afford to whiff on because I feel

670
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: like if they whiff on, no, yeah, WHI no, not

671
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: an option this week. So let's go ahead and say

672
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: that right now. I don't know where I saw it.

673
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: I was actually meant to send it to you guys.

674
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: Yesterday there was a highlight. Somebody put together a highlight.

675
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: I think it was just the NFL sounds of the

676
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: game for Tyreek Hill and it was them just following

677
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: him around and his releases. He just excuse me, excuse me.

678
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: He's literally just saying excuse me. He's saying excuse me

679
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: every single time he's killing guys off the line of scrimmage,

680
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: and he's laughing about it, right him and the DV

681
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: you are laughing about it. And if the ball doesn't

682
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: come his waysycha, Andrew Luck saying thank you whenever he

683
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: gets good job, whenever he get hit. But I mean,

684
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Speaker 1: so you can't whip. You have to these guys have

685
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Speaker 1: to be intent on making sure that everything in practice

686
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: this week is hands on, all our dbs, hands on

687
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, getting these guys freaking get a jam. Right.

688
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: If you don't get a jam, the next man gets

689
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: a jam. Bump him off as straight because he's gonna

690
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: run across. He's like a little little pinball where he

691
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: literally just weave his way through. And as long as

692
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahome has time back there, he will sit there

693
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: and hold the ball and wait. If you play zone,

694
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: if you play too high right, he if he has time,

695
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: he will literally just run across from one zone to

696
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: the second zone to the third zone, all the way

697
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: across the field out the back end. He's coming out

698
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: the back shoot right. Or if you try to go

699
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: single high now you're trying to pass stuff off. You're

700
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: taking the attention of that one safety and saying when

701
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: he crosses the field, try to cut him off. Well

702
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: then what Now? You got these other guys that are

703
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: getting free. So it's going It's going to happen, but

704
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: you have to limit it. And I think the only

705
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: way that you could limit it is by being physical

706
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: and staying in the hip pocket. Whenever the ball is

707
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: in the air, they're gonna get their catches, but they

708
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: better be contested because if you allow these guys to

709
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: get the confidence to just catch the balls freely, or

710
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: trying to play cover three and play saft or cover

711
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: four and play soft it's gonna be a long day.

712
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: And you're saying, hip pocket, that's just closing, closing that hill. Yeah.

713
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: So but I like what you what you're saying and

714
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: playing the devil's advocate in this in this situation is

715
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: good because you saw what Denver did versus us, and

716
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: they were effective in that they were passing off CD,

717
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: they were plassing off of Mary. But again, those guys

718
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: were not healthy. We saw that and it bolded well

719
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: for you. But then the next opponent steps up and

720
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: tries to do that, they burn them the same thing

721
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: that the difference is and you pointed out it's our

722
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: running game. I mean, I guess on paper right now,

723
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: I can see Dan Quinn going with four guys, one

724
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: linebacker and six dvs because he has the safeties, he

725
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: has the DV. So I'm sure, uh, Jordan Lewis is

726
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: gonna play damn near the whole game. Obviously, we know

727
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: Javon Jon Curse is gonna play the entire game. But

728
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: that's the only approach that you can take. And I

729
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: know they're gonna switch it up too. They're gonna switch

730
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: it up as the Chiefs play a lot of trips

731
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: formation and those screens that you're talking about. You go

732
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: round a guys step back and next thing you know,

733
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: Terik Hill takes the ball and you're still there bumping

734
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: them off of the line scrimmage. Being physical at the

735
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: line scrimmage is going to be important. Now what does

736
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: that also get you if you with He said, so

737
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a big time gamble is

738
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: The other thing they'll do, too, is to try to

739
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: get Kelsey and they'll line him up right next to

740
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, and like we just talked about it, he

741
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: draws so much attention. Now Kelsey's free and can kind

742
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: of win his matchup that way. Um, there was a

743
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: staff from CBS. I think that Cover two and Cover

744
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: four have been the most popular coverages against the four.

745
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: Reason you can't you really can't do anything else because

746
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: of that speed element. But to your question, I do

747
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: think I don't think physicality has been a problem for

748
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: this defense this season. Actually, I think it's kind of

749
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: been their calling card. You only pointed out one game

750
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: though I did, And yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to,

751
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: but they can't. You guys are like they can't miss tackles.

752
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they had fourteen miss tackles against Denver.

753
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn said, it was like three or four last

754
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: Week's so much better, so much more sound, and so

755
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: much more physical. This has to be the most physical game,

756
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I don't think that more so

757
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: than New England. Oh yeah. And the reason why Tennessee

758
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: just disrespected Can City like that, not only because of

759
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: the pressure, not only because of the bad decisions by Mahomes,

760
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,959
Speaker 1: but they hit the crap out of you. They wipe

761
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: their faces. That's the thing. What's what's what's the culture

762
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: of the what's their identity in Tennessee physical. We're gonna

763
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: outfield will on both sides of anybody that plays Tennessee.

764
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: You know you're you're coming out beat up right, You're

765
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: going old Rabel right, You're gonna get beat The craps

766
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: are gonna get beat out of you. Offensively, defensively, special teams.

767
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: We're hitting you in the mouth. If we don't do

768
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: anything else, you're gonna leave Buddy, bloody and Bruce. That

769
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: has to be our approach because Kansas City doesn't like that.

770
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: These is like the almost I almost use the fraternity.

771
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: It's like the capitals of the fraternity. He's like these

772
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: like these are like the pretty boys, right, these are

773
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: the pretty boys of the wie. Now they're they're nice

774
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: and then they're cleaning. They can make plays, but they

775
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: don't want to get hit. They don't want to get hit.

776
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: Are you in a frat? I'm not fra Hey, you

777
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: just called the caps the pretty boy pretty boy around

778
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: mirrors everything else. You call the soft soft piece pretty boys.

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00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's que days, so they are real. Okay,

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00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: se counters day today, my boys spice. Let me know

781
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: that this morning. But no, I mean, but you want

782
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: to hit these guys. I don't think outside of the

783
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: Tennessee game, they haven't been hit, and I don't think

784
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: they like it. I really don't think they like it.

785
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: I don't think they respond well to it. So our

786
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: guys need to flop. Donovan Wilson, strap them up, curse,

787
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: strap them up, right, Kayze, don't do what you did

788
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Strap them up. Okay, I

789
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: need everybody out there strapped up flat, Mica, this is

790
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: your time to freaking unleash it. Dude, put your juggernai

791
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: helmet on and run through somebody's soul, vander Ash, I

792
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: haven't seen a wolf call all year. I've seen one

793
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: wolf call that was after Jalen left. I need the

794
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: wolf call out because we need all two hundred fifty

795
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: pounds you running through somebody's chest cavity of this game.

796
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: We have to outphysical these boys to make them second

797
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: guess anything quick underneath coming at you. That is all right,

798
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: And defensive line wise, it's where it's gonna start. Up front.

799
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: We have got to apply that pressure and we've got

800
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: we've got to relegate. Have our four guys up front

801
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: or however we're gonna switch this up three four guys

802
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: up front. Well, we gotta get physical. We we've got

803
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: to get penetration, and we've got to get home. But

804
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: you point out Micah Micael can be a big difference

805
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: maker in this game. Yeah, good through somebody's soul. Yeah,

806
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: I love that. I want to take that and make

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Speaker 1: it a cowbite Aaron, Yeah, cow by exactly before we leave.

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Speaker 1: Let's make it happen. All right, let's take our second

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Speaker 1: Push was aggressive, he kept the physicality up. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to this Cowboys. You understand what I'm picking it up?

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Speaker 1: All right, real quickly before we wrap things up, Kansas

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Speaker 1: City tackles in one words, one word from each of you.

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Speaker 1: Offensive tackles for Kansas City have been trash. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's I would probably go a little bit under. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'd probably say not adequate. But actually, I mean Isaiah

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Speaker 1: mentioned there're two rookies on the interior. They've been part

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Speaker 1: of the strength of their line, and they've had injuries

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Speaker 1: on the tackle spot too, like Rimors has been out right,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean look going back to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: like Heck mentioned like that's it's been a problem. You know.

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Speaker 1: Tray Smith out of Tennessee, he's playing the right guard spot.

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Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey, who was one of the more touted interior

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman in front of last raft out of OUH

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Speaker 1: is playing the center spot, and he's been actually really

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Speaker 1: good and oh Brown, I got veterans on the incaps,

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Speaker 1: but but they haven't been great though, well not in

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Speaker 1: day on one incap. The Kyle Long is out. Still

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Speaker 1: exactly that was I think that was their game plan initially,

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Speaker 1: Let's get some young guys on the inside or obviously

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Speaker 1: except for the guard from New England, or some bets

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Speaker 1: on the outside. And yeah, and Kyle Long has been

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Speaker 1: on the pup list for quite some time now. He's

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Speaker 1: expected to return soon, but still no word on whether

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Speaker 1: or not it'll be this week or not. So without

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Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, without DeMarcus Lawrence again, how does how did

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys generate some pressure? I'm gonna start with Isaiah

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Speaker 1: on this one because I feel like we have something coming. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm in agreeance with the Heckma train in terms of

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Speaker 1: putting Parsons on the wait a minute, hey, for this game,

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Speaker 1: but for this game reason being, reason being, this guy,

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Speaker 1: out of any quarterback that we've faced so far this year,

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Speaker 1: can hurt you the most if he gets outside the

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Speaker 1: pocket and you don't have somebody running after him, Our

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Speaker 1: defensive alignment won't catch him. We have some really athletic

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Speaker 1: defensive alignment. Our current guys that are playing won't catch him,

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Speaker 1: so you need somebody that's gonna put some heat on him.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is not like getting hit. He does not

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Speaker 1: and he does not do a great job of ball security.

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Speaker 1: We've seen that this year. He runs with the ball

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Speaker 1: in one hand. He's all kinds of He's not worried

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Speaker 1: about ball secured. He's worried about the big play down

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Speaker 1: the field. And that's why I think if you have

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Speaker 1: a two hundred and forties plus pounder, a guy who

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Speaker 1: runs a four to three chasing after him, he can

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Speaker 1: cause him some issues and give us the opportunities if

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Speaker 1: Parsons hits him, chance for a fumble, if Parson puts

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Speaker 1: pressure on him like we like we know he could,

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Speaker 1: then we get those opportunities down the field for those

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Speaker 1: in errand throws that Patrick Mahomes has likes that he

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Speaker 1: likes to make because he likes those fifty fifty balls.

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Speaker 1: He thinks his guys are just that much better than

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Speaker 1: the defenders. Damn sure does. So you're on board. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: no surprise there. Wouldn't that be funny if Heckman was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, but I think he's better as a linebacker. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean the thing is, because of their

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Speaker 1: lack of a run identity, you don't need a true

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Speaker 1: just linebacker in this In this game, you need people

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Speaker 1: to get pressure and you need dbs. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I really like the way that he had a head

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Speaker 1: esteem though against Atlanta, and we're able to kind of

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Speaker 1: kind of control that edge a little bit more coming

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Speaker 1: from the second level, more so than I think he

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Speaker 1: had done previously in that specific mindset. If they brought

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Speaker 1: him on a blitz on multiple occasions, I think that

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Speaker 1: could work as well. I do as well. However, majority

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Speaker 1: of the day, right think about let's just go ahead

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Speaker 1: and just say that Kensey's gonna have sixty snaps. It's

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Speaker 1: safe to say that kensa City has sixty snaps. Of

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Speaker 1: those sixty snaps, how many times will he really affect

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Speaker 1: this game at that level, They're not running a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff within that five yard range. Well, and that's

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Speaker 1: what dan Quinn mentioned when he was asked about UH

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Speaker 1: to the effect of he's generating a ton of pressure.

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Speaker 1: How do you fee you feel encouraged that using him

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Speaker 1: the right way? You guys know, how much I loved

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn Press conversation said, what an awesome question. I

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Speaker 1: guess that's saying you're doing a good job Dan, or

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Speaker 1: you're a dumb ass. But he said, he pointed out

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Speaker 1: that you know he's going vertical a lot from the

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Speaker 1: linebacker position as well. But you guys points well taken

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Speaker 1: like this is a matchup where you have to get

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Speaker 1: to Pat Mahomes. In the conversation, I'm gonna steal this

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Speaker 1: directly from Nick Eatman, and he said, man, I want

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Speaker 1: to use I want to use Michael Parsons like they

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Speaker 1: used Troy Paulamalo. And I don't see nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: You know, just a guy that you line up everywhere

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Speaker 1: and you know he can be effective from anywhere on

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Speaker 1: the field. Last week against Atlanta, the one rush where

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Speaker 1: he went he even tweeted Almari Cooper, I told you

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Speaker 1: my dead leg was better than your, you know, and

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Speaker 1: he would then and the guy didn't even put a

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Speaker 1: hand on him. That's just the kind of speed, the

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Speaker 1: athleticism that he presents from the from the from the edge,

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Speaker 1: and even when he takes a bad angle, you see

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Speaker 1: the speed that he could do to still get to

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Speaker 1: the outside and not give up contain. He's just a

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Speaker 1: special guy. And coming up against a player like Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: I see him different. I see him as a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that can extend plays with his legs. No, he does

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Speaker 1: not want to get touched, but he can extend plays

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Speaker 1: with his legs, and they go to that scrambled drill

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Speaker 1: and that's where he will make a mistake if you're

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Speaker 1: touching him already, right, and so he's gonna try and

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00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: extend to play, get something across his body. And that's

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Speaker 1: where he was nightmarish at the beginning of the season

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Speaker 1: trying to do this and also just looking at the

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Speaker 1: role that they're getting on. Look at the games that

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Speaker 1: they've played, look at the teams that they've beat, so

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Speaker 1: a lot of that maybe fools gold up until this point.

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Speaker 1: And I believe that this Dallas defense, which has been

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Speaker 1: underappreciated to a certain degree, can actually put their stamp

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Speaker 1: on this game. And that be the reminder because we

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Speaker 1: hadn't seen an offense like this since Tampa as far

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Speaker 1: as the weapons that they have, but we hadn't seen

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Speaker 1: a team move formations like this either since Minnesota or

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Speaker 1: maybe against the Patriots where they They're doing so many

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Speaker 1: different things out of different formations. So look, it's just

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Speaker 1: gonna be a chess match, and Dan Quinn is worth

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Speaker 1: this salt. You're gonna see it this week. I agree

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Speaker 1: with you on the teams and the potential fools gold

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Speaker 1: for Kansas City. We'll talk about that a little bit

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Speaker 1: more on Friday. But their last two wins have been

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Speaker 1: really impressive against against Green Bay and then against the

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Speaker 1: Race green Bay without Oh that's right, it was without

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodd. Come on, come, okay, that's right. I forgot

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Speaker 1: about that point point. We're gonna talk about that on Friday.

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Speaker 1: But tomorrow we preview the Cowboys offense. Sir, I think

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense could have another big day. I've been

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Speaker 1: looking at this Kansas City defense and I think the holes, man,

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Speaker 1: I think there's some holes. We're gonna talk about it tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I hope you had fun on this one. Lots of

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Speaker 1: excitement around this matchup heading into Sunday. But for Chris Beam,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Isaiah Daanback, heck Ma Harris, and I'm Kyle

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