1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm waiting outside the Stumptown Coffee Roasters at the Poorland 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: International Airport, and I looked like a douche bag because 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: I'm wearing sweatpants and my yellow knit hat, and I 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: have headphones over them, and I have a recorder, and 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: I look like a guy making a podcast in America 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty one. Ever since I started this project, 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: I have been wanting to go to a very special place, 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: that den of dreams, that wilderness of wonder, that magical, 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: massive majesty in this maze of mystery. Scottsdale, Arizona. This 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: will be your armchair vacation and mine to the Valley 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: of the Sun. Before I started this project, I thought Scottsdale, 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Arizona was the Southwest mecca for retirees, and I was right. 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: But it's also the place where spent Lana Allelujeva's life 14 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: would change forever. How exactly she wound up there and 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: why she would end up staying has always mystified me, 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: no matter how many times I read her books or 17 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: poured over her letters. So now I'm traveling in her 18 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: footsteps to find out exactly what happened. All right, you 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: go first, time for everything. I'm deak Atrocer and this 20 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: is spent Lana. Spent Lana. You wake up in the morning, 21 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: you live your day, and then you do it tomorrow 22 00:01:47,120 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: and over and over again and over again and act one. 23 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: We are waiting for you here now, before we all 24 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: go with set Lana to Arizona, I need to tell 25 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: you one small detail. I want you to remember that 26 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: spet Lana's grandmother's name was Olga. Everybody got that, Okay, 27 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: put in your pocket. Forget about it. We'll come back 28 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: to it later. When we last left set Lana, she 29 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: was in Princeton, New Jersey, reeling from a broken relationship 30 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: and a KGB smear campaign, but also celebrating the release 31 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: of her second book, called Only One Year. The book 32 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: is a small triumph, written, translated, and published on spet 33 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Lana's terms. It was very happy settled in Princeton. I 34 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: just published two books. I had friends, I had I 35 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: was planning next book. I was planning to go to 36 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: Hawaii in summer. I had my own I was the 37 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: first time in my life doing what I wanted. She 38 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: still misses her children and doesn't know when or if 39 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: she'll be able to see them. But Slana is trying 40 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: her best to focus on the future. She gets a 41 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: driver's license, she buys her dream home. Alone in the 42 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: quiet of her beloved house, she spends her days chit 43 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: chatting with locals and answering letters from people all over 44 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: the country. Regular every day Americans can't stop telling her 45 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: how much they admire her and connect with her, sharing 46 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: deep thoughts about their own families and histories and feelings. 47 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Here she is that fall. Well, I got several marriage 48 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: proposals and companied by photographs. Yes, yes, accompanied by photographs 49 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: and the have you ended it? Replied to any of these, Oh, well, 50 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: I did not reply because I felt I feel just 51 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: funny about the idea. But then there's one letter that 52 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: stands out among the rest. It's on trifolded stationary with 53 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: oversized cursive handwriting from a woman on the other side 54 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: of the country who has read her book and found 55 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: it extraordinarily powerful. We found a copy of this letter 56 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: at Columbia University's Avery Archives. The woman, by the way, 57 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: is from Montenegro, so she sounds like a vampire. Dear 58 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: sweet Land, I have been thinking of you ever since 59 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: I read your beautiful book only one year. It is 60 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: hard to believe that after so much sorrow you have 61 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: emerged pure in spirit. But I suppose those fearful experiences 62 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: one suffers strengthens the soul, no matter how high the price. 63 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: The letter, one of a series of letters, phone calls 64 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: and telegrams, contains a cordial invitation to a place fet 65 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: Lana has never heard of called tally Essen West, and 66 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: its signed who is love Old Gavanna Lloyd Right, old 67 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: Gavanna Lloyd Wright, as in Frank Lloyd Wright, the great 68 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: American architect. But who is this old Gavanna and what 69 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: is tally Essen West? Set Lana has heard of? Neither? 70 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: Olga Vanna, As that Lana comes to find is the 71 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: third wife of Frank Lloyd Wright, married to him for 72 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: more than thirty years until his death in nineteen fifty nine. 73 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Here's what Olga Vanna actually sounds like. Talking to a 74 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: TV news interviewer in nineteen sixty six, I was born 75 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: in city in Montenegro. I was trying to identify her 76 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: slight accident, but she said she wants to lose, which 77 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: I find very charming. My accent was pretty good, right, 78 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: Olga Vanna Lloyd Wright is adamant that's that Lana Alla Lujeva, 79 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: Joseph Stalin's daughter come to Arizona for a visit. And 80 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: she's not the only one here's fet Lana. Every member 81 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: of the fellowship brought me a letter member a fellowship? 82 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: What is this? Lord of the Rings? Was Gandalf there 83 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: and Sam Wise. I tried to read the Lord of 84 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: the Rings trilogy for this podcast and found nothing. Turns 85 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: out it's a completely different fellowship. You're welcome. I just 86 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: saved y'all a thousand pages worth of orcs. But this 87 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: fellowship was founded by Frank Lloyd Wright and his wife 88 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: Olga Vanna. And there's even a book about it called 89 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: The Fellowship, written by Harold Zelman and Roger Friedland. My 90 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: producer Adam and I tracked them down. Yeah, I feel 91 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: like Adam and I were looking we're looking into our future. 92 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: We're so excited. Just you mean Old, you know, just 93 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: just two other Jews who are excited about Frank Lloyd right, Okay, Yeah, 94 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: the los in the anti semi fantastic. We'll hear from 95 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: how Old and Roger a lot throughout this podcast, as 96 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: well as an interview they recorded with spet Lana in 97 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: two thousand while writing their book how did you feel 98 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: about Mrs Right? Mrs Right bombarded me. She bombarded me 99 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: with letters, finally telephone calls. When are you coming? You 100 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: must come, you must come here. Olga Vanna was pitching 101 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: spet Lana hard. She sent press pieces and literature about 102 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: her community of like minded architects and artists who lived 103 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: and worked together, supporting Frank Lloyd Wright's vision during his 104 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: life and carrying it on after his death. Speed Lana 105 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: didn't know much about architecture, and before I started this project, 106 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: I didn't really know much about architecture either, Like I 107 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: know walls, doors, windows, but how and why they fit together? 108 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: Twas a mystery. And Frank Lloyd Right, well, he was 109 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: the only architect I knew by name, which must mean 110 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: that he was pretty good. Right. The Encyclopedia Britannica says 111 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: it flat out, Frank Lloyd Wright was the most abundantly 112 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: creative genius of American architecture. Stet Lana was receiving literature 113 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: about the wonders of Frank Lloyd Wright's universe, and I 114 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: assume she was slowly but surely learning bits and pieces 115 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: about Right the same way I was that his most 116 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: iconic founding principle was what he called organic architecture, believing 117 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: buildings should emerge from the ecosystem, both in materials and design. 118 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: Right didn't like the idea of a castle on top 119 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: of a hill, but thought a house should be built 120 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: around its base or on its brow. It's why he 121 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: named his Wisconsin home the Fellowship's headquarters, tally Yessen, which 122 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: in his ancestral Welsh means shining brow. As a bald 123 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: person I feel seen. Stet Lana probably also found out 124 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: that Right was dead. He had died a decade earlier, 125 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: and many of his apprentices and their spouses still lived together, 126 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: with Old Havanna and her daughter Yavannah, spending summers at 127 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: tally Essen in spring Green, Wisconsin, and winters in Scottsdale, Arizona, 128 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: at Wright's desert home tally Essen West. This is lomcca 129 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: of American architecture. For more than forty years, tally Essen 130 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: has molded young Americans people who have gone on to 131 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: change the face of the earth. What Old Gavanna was 132 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: sure to impress upon stet Lana is that tally Essen 133 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: was not just an architecture laboratory. It was a fully 134 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: self sustained community where you studied, worked, socialized, even cooked together. 135 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: But part of their life with tali Essen, students sometimes 136 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: switched from gathering stones to baking schols. So what kind 137 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: of misfits are those gonna be? Jared's? So in case 138 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: you couldn't hear that, Jerry's making scones, that's the thing 139 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: that's fent. Lana and I are learning before we even 140 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: set foot in the joint that creativity in all forms 141 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: was required. Fellows were not only architects and accomplished sconemakers, 142 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: but painters, sculptors, dancers, musicians, and, judging by the photos, hotties. 143 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: I put aside their protractors and pick axes in the 144 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: evenings and dress up for dinner. But scones, pick axes 145 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: and protractors cost money, and with Frank Lloyd Wright dead 146 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: and buried, it was up to Olga Vanna to keep 147 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: the operation alive. She was constantly fundraising and publicizing. Kali 148 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: Essen sustained itself on free labor, fellowship tuition, architectural commissions 149 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: and donations from wealthy benefactors. Olga Vanna had become the 150 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: protector of her husband's legacy and vision. Only a few 151 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: new students are admitted each year. Candidates are accepted only 152 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: after Mrs Wright decides stabled all Olga Vanna was the matriarch, 153 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: the queen, the CEO. Hashtag girl boss. So this is 154 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: the woman that keeps beckonings fed Lana to come to 155 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: the desert, and the tally Essen letters keep coming. They 156 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: sent her photographs of the compound. Every member of the 157 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: fellowship writes to her. One person I talked to said 158 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: they even sent her a silver necklace. But it wasn't 159 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: the jewelry that pushed spent Lana over the edge. It 160 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: was something deeper, something richer, something profound. Dear, here's fent 161 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: Lana again. Cis Lana? Something goes about my name? Clana 162 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: was some kind of a mysieur is thing, you know, 163 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: comes at Lana from Russia. We are my family who 164 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: are from Georgia. And Mrs Right lived in Georgia and 165 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: her first Atlanta was born there in the fleece. So, 166 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: as Mrs Wright said, there are karmic ways. Wait, what 167 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: did she just say, her first spent Lana. Mrs Wright 168 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: lived in Georgia and her first Atlanta was born there 169 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: in the fleece tiflis Karma another speed Lana. That's right? 170 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: Or shall I say that's right with a W Not 171 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: all jokes working podcasts, But here's the team. Olga Vanna 172 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: had a daughter who died in a car crash some 173 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: twenty five years earlier, and her name was speed Lana. 174 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: And now in seventy Olga Vanna seems to believe that 175 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: speed Lana, our speed Lana, might in fact be, in 176 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: some weird cosmic way, a reincarnation of her dead daughter. 177 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: Spent Lana. Confused, great me too, And it's about to 178 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: get even confused here because Olga Vanna's name is not 179 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: really old Gavanna. That's a nickname. Her first name is 180 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: actually Olga. And do you remember when I told you 181 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: to put spet Lana's grandmother's name in your pocket, Well 182 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: it's time to fish it out. What was feed Lana's 183 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: Grandmother's name Olga? So spent Lana's Grandmother's name was Olga, 184 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: and Olga Vanna's daughter's name was feed Lana. There are 185 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: two spet Lana's, two Olga's. Oh and wants some more 186 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: bullshit with names? Well, when the first speed Lana died 187 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: in that car crash. Her two year old son died 188 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,479 Speaker 1: with her, and you know what, His name was Daniel, 189 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: and that's my name. Coincidence, not if you're gay. So 190 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: there are two Olga's to speed Lana's to Daniels. And 191 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: what does all of this mean. It means that an 192 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Olga Vanna's mind. Because feed Lana had a dead grandma 193 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: named Olga, and because Olga Vanna had a dead daughter 194 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: named spent Lana, the two were faded to meet. It 195 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: was destiny. And this, this story of multiple Olga's and 196 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: multiple speed Lana's, this is what set my imagination a 197 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: flame when I found out about the story seven years ago. 198 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: I knew from the moment I heard about all these 199 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: Russian names that I had to write a play about them. 200 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: I needed to know what happened when these two worlds collided. 201 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: By early March, speed Lana finally accepts the invitation. She 202 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: had always wanted to travel to the West Coast, so 203 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: she decides she'll go to taliesin West for one week, 204 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: then make her way to California and Hawaii. I had 205 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: my I could buy the ticket and go wherever I wanted, 206 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: So I said, all right, I'll go and meet her 207 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: because she's so persistent. So finally, on March fifteenth, seventy's fed, 208 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: Lana gets on a plane and makes her way to 209 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: the Phoenix International Airport. She flies over the stretches of 210 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: farmland of the Midwest, the grains of the planes, the rivers, 211 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: and the rockies, until she touches down in the desert. 212 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: She had never been to the desert before. When she 213 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: emerged from the airport, the sun must have smacked her 214 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: in the face, but once her eyes settled, they would 215 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: have found a perky brunette about her age standing by 216 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: a bright red sports car ready to take her to 217 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: her destiny. In November, I decided to go to taliesin 218 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: West in Scottsdale, Arizona. Myself. Here I am stepping out 219 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: of the airport and into the sun. Okay, if I 220 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: get a red car, that's you know, that's a sign 221 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: they're booking at at it's white. It is a white 222 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: Honda Odyssey. So begins my tally Essen Odyssey. In my 223 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: Honda Odyssey more after the break, act two, I hope 224 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: you will be my sister. Oh there's my Honda Odyssey. 225 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: All right? Long, Dan, Hi, are we going to tally 226 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: esen are you are you long? No? Wait, I'm the 227 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: wrong person. There's two white hondas. Stead Lana's journey begins 228 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: a little more glamorously. She sees her first, Yavana Lloyd 229 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: Wright Olgavana's daughter. She's wearing a brightly colored short dress. 230 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: She has long, curly brown hair that looks like it 231 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: has been tossed by the wind, a thin frame, and 232 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: an excited grin. She has plenty of makeup on lashes, 233 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: an eyeliner, and then Yavanna's perfectly done eyes land on 234 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: spett spent Lana. She cries loudly, maybe too loudly, and 235 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: runs over to spit Lana, enveloping her in a long, 236 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: maybe too long hug. This makes ft Lana slightly uncomfortable. 237 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: She grew up in Soviet Russia without a mother. Long 238 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: amote of hugs in public weren't exactly commonplace, but speed 239 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: Lana is polite. She hugs back, and moments later, Yvanna 240 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: welcomes her into her bright red sports car and begins 241 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: to drive. I are you long? I went there's another 242 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: white van minivan I went into. Yeah. Yavanna is loud 243 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: and bossy and takes to the highway like she owns 244 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: the road, zooming well passed. Whatever the speed limit is. 245 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: Well spent Lana takes in the epic sky, the lad 246 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: and our mountains. In the backdrop the stretches of sand 247 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: Polka dotted with Seguero cacti. Vanna mentions her deceased sisters 248 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: fed Laana and says to our sped Laana, I hope 249 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: you will be my sister. I have to be honest. 250 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: That sounds creepy to me, but maybe sped Lana felt differently. 251 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: Here's Rosemary Sullivan. I would say at that moment, this 252 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: is a fun adventure. And having this young woman sit 253 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: beside her and say, you know you could be my sister, 254 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that you would have taken it that 255 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: seriously and truly. At this moment, spent Lana is more 256 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: focused on the road. Today. Route one on one is 257 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: a two lane highway from Phoenix to Scottsdale, but back 258 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: in it was a one way road. If another car 259 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: was coming your way, good luck. As Yavannah cranks up 260 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: the speed, spent Lana compulsively presses her foot down to 261 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: a phantom break. Vana notices her passengers terror and nonchal. 262 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: Wantley says, oh, we always speed through these spaces, and 263 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: then she laughs ha ha ha, and then svet Lana 264 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: laughs ha ha ha ha ha ha. They finally take 265 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: the exit off of one oh one to Scottsdale. They 266 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: passed suburban homes and orange groves and make the turn 267 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: onto Frankloyd Right Boulevard, the dividing line between residential Scottsdale 268 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: and tally Es and West. The car turns up a slow, winding, 269 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: graveled path. It's probably about a mile from the boulevard, 270 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: and on either side you can see the vast expanses 271 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: of desert sped Lana said she felt bewitched by all 272 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: of this, and I have to admit I was two. Okay, 273 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: so this is it. This is tally Es and West. 274 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: We're going off. We got trees on either side. We're 275 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: entering private property, the Franklin Right Foundation all right. Now, 276 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: we got tangles of cactus, capti and shrubs, so it 277 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: looks like a movie set. Speed Lana drinks in all 278 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: of the colors and fragrances of the desert spring as 279 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: Ivanna drives them up the winding way. Spent, Lana catches 280 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: sight of some bright red bougainvillias, a flower she first 281 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: came across in India. She hadn't seen the flowers since. 282 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: Was it a sign from her beloved bridges reaching out 283 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: from the other side. Maybe all this talk of a 284 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: reunion of souls the two Olga's, the two speed Lana's, 285 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: I hope you will be my sister. Maybe set Lana 286 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: is in fact about to be reunited with her mother, 287 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: who had taken her own life nearly forty years before. 288 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: Ivannah parks the car and the two walk through an 289 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: interlocking maze of short sandstone buildings lined with wooden beams 290 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: painted in Frank Lloyd Wright's signature burnt orange, a color 291 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: he called Cherokee red. Remember it's not racist. If it 292 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: was before Obama, this was tally Us in West. After 293 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: they weave through more bushes of bougambilias, they probably emerge 294 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: at the open expanse at a triangular pool. All of 295 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: Scottsdale beyond them, mountains behind them, and they're like a 296 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: mirage in the middle of the desert. A semicircle of 297 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: men in tuxedos and women in brightly colored ball gowns 298 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: flank a statuesque woman with black hair and twin streaks 299 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: of white, wearing a large turquoise hat. These men and 300 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: women are the architect apprentices and their spouses, all living 301 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: and working together here at Tallys and West. And the 302 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: woman in the center with penetrating dark eyes, along swan 303 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: like neck and strong jawline. She's one of those women 304 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: who only gets more beautiful with age. She sparkles, she glows. 305 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: She's Olga Vanna Lloyd right and spent Lana. She was 306 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: blown away. I would say, you know, very kind of 307 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: timmid and shy and dressed in my very conservative clothes 308 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: from New Jersey. Yes, and they were all very bright, 309 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: the jeweled women. And there was Mission right herself, black 310 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: hair and two quiz could this woman a monta negrin 311 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: with her grandmother's name? Could this woman be spet Lana's mother. 312 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: As the men in tuxedos and women in ballgowns look on, 313 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: Olgavana steps towards spet Lana. In that moment, spet Lana 314 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: looks for her mother in Olgavona's eyes. But before set 315 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 1: Lana can do or say anything, Olgavona has wrapped her 316 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: long taught Dancer's arms around spet Lana in a tight embrace, 317 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: clutching her Olgavonna rock spet Lana, saying her name over 318 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: and over again, chanting it like a spell. Spent Lana, 319 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: Speed Lana, Speed Lana, speed Lana. Here spet recalling that 320 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 1: moment to Meryl seek rest. She's called the whole thing 321 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: about my name was and the gate see everybody was 322 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: supposed to see me is reincarnation of another Setlanta, reincarnation 323 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: of another spet Lana. You know, throughout this story will 324 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: track the many cycles that spet Lana finds herself trapped 325 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: in with men with work with where she lives. And 326 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: if episode one was forty years and episode two is 327 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: just a couple, this episode is really about a series 328 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: of moments, transitional moments, transcendent moments, and this moment with 329 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: fet Lana buried in the arms of another spet Lana's mother, well, 330 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: this one takes the cake. She's in the middle of 331 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: the desert, surrounded by dozens of architects who have all 332 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: been eagerly waiting for her like she's Jesus or that 333 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: pizza you order when you're a little high. And then 334 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: it comes when you're very high and a motherly figure 335 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: is embracing her, saying her name over and over again. 336 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: Svet Lava, sveth Lava. Could it be possible that after 337 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: all of her running away, she somehow finally come home 338 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: more after the break? Act three sad hot selsa Guy. 339 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: I am standing in the courtyard of tally Us in West. 340 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: We have this incredible sunset that I can hardly believe. 341 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean the color, the color of like the bright 342 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: pink orange clouds against the light blue sky. Overlooking the 343 00:24:54,600 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: Camelback Mountains, the little lights of Scottsdale. Often a distance 344 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: spelt like running towards them is a field of shrubs 345 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: and cacti. It is stunning, lee beautiful. That's me at 346 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: the end of my first day at taliesin West. While 347 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: on tour there, I learned that a big part of 348 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: the ethos of the fellowship was if you need something, 349 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: you just make it yourself. The architects considered their living 350 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: quarters a laboratory. The stone buildings, with their skylights and 351 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 1: exposed beams, are candied with sculptures and ornaments, and filled 352 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: with mid century modern furniture and Japanese art. You can 353 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: spend hours wandering around the campus and you'll find surprises everywhere. 354 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: An iron dragon jutting out in one walkway, a giant 355 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: pool and another I'd live there. When I walked through 356 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: tally esin West, I kept bumping my head everywhere. The 357 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: walkways and entrances of any Francloyd Right home or building 358 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: are always in credibly low. There are two major theories 359 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: why this is so. Theory number one, Frank Lloyd Wright 360 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: believed in the idea of compression and release that when 361 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: you start your way into a structure, it should be dark, short, narrow, 362 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: and then when you get into the main room it 363 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: should expand extravagantly. The other theory as to why the 364 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: ceilings were particularly low at taliesin West was because Frank 365 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: Lloyd Wright was fucking short. Speed Lana isn't exactly wowed 366 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: by the architecture. She thinks the houses are shallow and 367 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: low and look like graves. But tally Essen is so 368 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: much more than its architecture. Speed Lana is told that 369 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: that night there will be a banquet held for her 370 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: and her honor. Performances and parties in the evening are 371 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: a regular event, so speed Lana should gussie up. Look fabulous. 372 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: It's what everyone does it tally Essen. They have plenty 373 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: of ball gown Speed Lana can borrow if she needs to, 374 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: but Speed Lana refuses. She shows up to the extravagant 375 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: dining hall in her own bulk clothes. They all like, 376 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, Christmas tree. And then one peculiarly tall man 377 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: emerges sticking out from the rest box is cold Man. 378 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: I hope outreach cold color and Leavender s. This man's 379 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: name is William Wesley Peters, but everybody calls him West. 380 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: West was Frank Lloyd Wright's very first apprentice at the Fellowship, 381 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: having joined when he was just nineteen. He's fifty seven 382 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: years old now and is the lead architect of the firm. 383 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: Everyone knows them, everyone loves him. He was a very 384 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: charming man, and there's no doubt about it. But he 385 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: didn't h He was sad, silent, paul charming man, that's 386 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: what he was. That Lana is taken by this shy, 387 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: sad man. When she helps herself to the Mexican catering, 388 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: he utters his first words to her. And here he 389 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: spoke first time because I was putting Salza bra and 390 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: he said this suce is very hot. Yeah, careful, the 391 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: salsa might be hot, but this meat cute is definitely mild. 392 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: But quick question. Was he very very pleasant? He was 393 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: really really pleasant. Oh cool, cool, cool, that's what I thought. 394 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: His face was very sad. He didn't big lives, lives, 395 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: very good face. He showed no interest to me. Mrs 396 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: Right was pushing kids because he looked at us, and 397 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: she said, I am so glad that West answered Lana, 398 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm bad. Anyway, it was silence. If you couldn't hear that. 399 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: What Olgamona says is I'm so glad that Wes and 400 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: spent Lana finally met. It's been a long time since 401 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: West sat with a woman. His own wife had died 402 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: some twenty five years earlier. And can you guess who 403 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: his wife was. That's right, the man that our spet 404 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: Lana is sitting next to at this wild Mexican banquet 405 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: held in a concrete hexagon in the middle of the desert, 406 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: was married to the first spet Lana, the dead one. 407 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: Anybody who looked at that because Westlana, it hits meaning 408 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: for them in as so, this is a momentous meeting. 409 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: West is meeting another stepas meeting a substitute. Oh, that's 410 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: what she meant. All of this happens on day one. 411 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: She's had this fabulous party, driven there by a woman 412 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: who said is that she could be your sister, hosted 413 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: by another woman who says that she could be your mother, 414 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: and sitting next to a man who had been married 415 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 1: to a woman with her name, And she's surrounded by 416 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: all of these people who have devoted their lives to art. 417 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: How different this must have been from Soviet Russia, where 418 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: writers were regularly censored and imprisoned. It must have been weird, 419 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: but it also must have been exhilarating. The next day, 420 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: Olga Vanna puts West in charge of schauffeurrings fet Lana around. 421 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: He drives her in his Cadillac through downtown Scottsdale. Here's 422 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: Cassie again, readings that Lana's words smoothly rolling along the 423 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: straight highway through the flat rocky valley, I suddenly felt 424 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: security and peace near this man, something I had not 425 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: experienced for a long time. I watched him with a 426 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: very keen eye and found nothing I could note. It 427 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: was a long, wordless trip, about twenty minutes long, but 428 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: it meant a lot to me. While the Cadillac rumbles 429 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: through Scottsdale speed, Lana can read into West's silence. He's 430 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: holding tragedy, the loss of his own speed Lana and 431 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: their baby Daniel. That sadness, that sense of loss sped. 432 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: Lana isn't afraid of it, She's drawn to it. Said, 433 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: Lana found herself falling in love with Less, and apparently 434 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: there was an erotic attraction. Uh, and he was so 435 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: so sad, so poignant. When you are attracted by someone's sadness, 436 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: it's because you think you can heal them. The week 437 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: rumbles by like that cadillac, flashy and jaw dropping. Every 438 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: week at Taliessen was filled with any number of cocktail 439 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: parties and performances. Olgavano holding court, breakfast, lunch, and dinner 440 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: with her spiritual talks. There are some recordings of those talks. 441 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: I've listened to them. They're slow and deliberate and maybe 442 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: all over the place, but still her meditative quality makes 443 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: you think you're listening to genius. Live as richly as 444 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: you can provide it. You've heard no one, including yourself 445 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: or Tony Robbins, and don't let yourself go too far 446 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: and too deep into criticism. Then you drop into the 447 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: mind and pretty soon you are pulled out or maybe 448 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: a prophecy. If you do not see it and strive 449 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: to go in the direction of the interior line, you'll 450 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: be constantly returning and returning back to the same earth. 451 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: Spe Lana doesn't know quite what to make of it all. 452 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: He's drawn to this place, but maybe wary of it too. 453 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: She'd fought so hard for her freedom in Princeton, but 454 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: suddenly she's being pulled into a beautiful world run by 455 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: an enchanting woman and charmed by a sad, hot salsa guy. 456 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: It must have all felt like a dream, but something 457 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: was weighing on her mind. Is this all too good 458 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: to be true? Something about it? Something about it. I 459 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: have to be careful. I have to be care And 460 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: she's right, because guys, two weeks later, she and Wes 461 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: will be married, and she will no longer be sped 462 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: Lana Alla Lujeva. She will become sped Lana Peters, the 463 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: same name as Wes's dead wife. On the next episode 464 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: of Sped Lana. Sped Lana. Sped Lana speed Lana is 465 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Podcasts and the documentary Group I'm 466 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: Your Host Dankatrocer. The show is written and produced by 467 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: me Adam Weber, Alison Joy, and Catherine Isaac. We also 468 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: serve as executive producers at the documentary Group. Our executive 469 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: producers Joe but Silhouettes, with production oversight by Stacy Cleeker 470 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: and additional support from Tom Yellen and Gabrielle Tennenbaum. Our 471 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: I Heart Team is supervising producer Casey Pegram and executive 472 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: producer Maya Howard. Editing assistants from producers Christina Loranger and 473 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: Joey pat Original music by Ellen Isakov. Production counsel by 474 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: Slaus eck House, Dasty Haynes Locko, Clearance counsel by Ballard 475 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: Spar Back checking assistance by Megan Trout, Research assistance by 476 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: Sophia Derso and Emily n. Special thanks to my husband 477 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: Jordan's Siegel, Rosemary Sullivan, author of the book Stalin's Daughter, 478 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: and Harold Selman and Roger Friedland, authors of the book 479 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: The Fellowship, who kindly granted permission to include excerpts from 480 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: their taped interview with stet Lanna. Excerpts from spet Lana 481 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: Alujeva's book The Faraway Music are provided by Chris Evans 482 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: and performed by Cassie Greer h