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Speaker 1: We'll get into this week's juicy reality TV recap with

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Speaker 1: Dustin Ross right after he's quick ass Welcome to Reality

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Speaker 1: with the King. It's me Carlos King, the King of

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Speaker 1: Hey rain Drop, today's guest on Reality with the King

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Speaker 1: The friend Zone in Holding Court with Ebanie k Williams.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about my friend Dustin Robb. Dustin and I

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Speaker 1: Reporting live from the Reality with the King News Studio,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Carlos. This week's breaking news. Jen Shaw pleads

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Speaker 4: Just want to say, you know, having sat with this,

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Oh child, what a doozy.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's get into this conversation with Dustin Ross.

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Speaker 5: That's what this is.

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Speaker 1: So, she appeared before the Judge Honey, Judge Sidney's side

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Speaker 6: It sounds like she listened. That sounds like an informed

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Speaker 6: there's no question. She literally played guilty to this. And

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Speaker 5: Right, But let's get back.

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Speaker 6: To the interesting parts of this, because we're not I'm

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Speaker 5: Know, Gucci.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I think it boils down to simply a

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Speaker 6: She would like to be, but she's more like a

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Speaker 6: I think that kind of equated to the public, you know,

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Speaker 5: Her the lifestyle that she lived.

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Speaker 1: Favorable before she played guilty. Did you believe jen Shaw

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: If I'm being honest, you know, I'm gonna keep it real, Carlos, No,

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Speaker 6: I didn't. When I saw her. She was at a

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Speaker 5: Good of a time as she could while she could.

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Speaker 6: And I think that that is what, you know, kind

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Speaker 5: That's what I believe.

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Speaker 6: So if you're aware of all that, to me, it

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Speaker 3: To so.

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Speaker 1: Closing out on this at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: And in my humble opinion.

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Speaker 1: Just like when Teresa went to jail, the show was

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Speaker 1: She's polarizing, and like you said, Dustin, she's highly likable.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City

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Speaker 6: Yes, because we know that she will return at some point.

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Speaker 2: Point dustin season sixteen.

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Speaker 6: I don't think she's going to get fourteen years, Carlos.

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Speaker 6: I think that she entered that last minute guilty plea

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Speaker 6: We don't know who moved what chess pieces on the

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Speaker 1: If you don't think Genshaw's getting fourteen years, how many

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Speaker 6: Getting, Maybe she'll do two years of time and then

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Speaker 1: So, according to the transcripts, the judge told Jenshaw, are

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to dispute it because he said that's

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Speaker 2: That's what the court said.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to teach people a lesson because they don't

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Speaker 2: So and listen, I hope I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to demand someone to spend a certain

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Speaker 1: a public figure, I think because she's a reality star,

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Speaker 1: and lastly, because she's a real housewife, I think they're

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Speaker 1: going to send a message.

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Speaker 2: To people through her.

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Speaker 1: And if you're going to put the Real Housewives of

446
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Speaker 1: Salt Lake City on Paulls for fourteen.

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Speaker 6: Years, yeah, well they're going to have to move on.

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Speaker 6: Hopefully they'll bring Mary Cosby back. Right, if we got

449
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Speaker 6: rid of Jens charl let's bring Mary Cosby's crazy ass bag.

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Speaker 5: We can deal with more of her antics, right.

451
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Speaker 6: And let's I also think maybe that from maybe the houseword,

452
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Speaker 6: maybe Salt Lake City is not dead, because now that

453
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Speaker 6: people know that there is an option to be a

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Speaker 6: real housewife of Salt Lake City, maybe now the casting

455
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Speaker 6: department can find some more interesting personalities who are willing

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Speaker 6: to show their lifestyle off now that they know they can.

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Speaker 5: You know, maybe this will work out.

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Speaker 2: It remains to be seen.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of my conversation with Dustin. Will

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Speaker 1: be right back after this quick break. This is Reality

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Speaker 1: with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back

462
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Speaker 1: into this reality TV rundown with Dustin. So it has

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Speaker 1: been announced that the first Black Or County housewife, Noela,

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Speaker 1: has been let go, allegedly because in her aliah for

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Speaker 1: a page letter, she stated that she left the show.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell y'all this.

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Speaker 1: Let me school y'all about these housewives announcements. Let me

468
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Speaker 1: just call it that, out of all the housewives who's

469
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Speaker 1: been fired or let go or left the show, only

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Speaker 1: a handful of housewives have left the show. And I'm

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Speaker 1: going to tell you who those women are who left

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Speaker 1: on their own accord. Bethony Frankel, Monique Samuels, Lisa vander Pump,

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Speaker 1: Dina Manzo Portia.

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Speaker 2: And that's it.

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Speaker 1: So, when a housewife tells you she left the show,

476
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Speaker 1: she got fired.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you know, I appreciate people who are like my girl,

478
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Speaker 6: Cynthia Right, who was an integral part of the Real

479
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Speaker 6: Housewives of Atlanta. She mattered to the success of that show.

480
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Speaker 6: And Cynthia was very transparent about the fact that she

481
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Speaker 6: was offered a friend of the show contract and she

482
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Speaker 6: was ready to move on anyway, and she just took

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Speaker 6: advantage of that. And as we see, she's thrived post

484
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Speaker 6: her departure from Housewives, continually acting, did a successful stent

485
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Speaker 6: maate it to the top three on Celebrity Big Brother,

486
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Speaker 6: which nobody thought she was going to be able to do,

487
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Speaker 6: you know, and she's really proven herself to be to

488
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Speaker 6: have a marketplace value in entertainment, from hosting to competing

489
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Speaker 6: on shows to now acting consistently Right, I appreciate stories

490
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Speaker 6: like that. To me, it's really whack to try to

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Speaker 6: pretend as if you know you decided to move on Niani,

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Speaker 6: when obviously you know you did not, and everything about

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Speaker 6: the way the situation unfolded speaks to that being what

494
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Speaker 6: the real story was. I think that there is something

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Speaker 6: to be said about the integrity of a person who

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Speaker 6: can say no, it was.

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Speaker 5: A mutual decision. They were ready to move on, so

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Speaker 5: was I.

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Speaker 6: And look the proofs in the pitting in the putting

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Speaker 6: post my departure, that's what I appreciate personally.

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Speaker 1: So and you know, like I said, when it comes

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Speaker 1: to Nobela, her and doctor Jen Armstrong both released a

503
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Speaker 1: statement at the same damn time, on the same damn

504
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Speaker 1: day saying that we're moving on to green and pastures,

505
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Speaker 1: which to me is just the grass in your backyard.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing you're moving on to, and I'm

507
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Speaker 2: mad at it.

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Speaker 1: However, were you shocked that the first black housewife of

509
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Speaker 1: OC got the boot?

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Speaker 5: Yes? And here's why.

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Speaker 6: I thought that Noela understood her assignment as a rocky

512
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Speaker 6: housewife on the Househoives of Orange County, and I thought

513
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Speaker 6: she did a good job, you know, kind of dribbling

514
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 6: the balls of personality amongst that cast. I think that

515
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 6: her feud with Heather was not forced. I think it

516
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 6: was like it grew organically. I just think that Noela's

517
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 6: problem again, she just wasn't likable to a lot of

518
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Speaker 6: the viewers for some reason. What that reason is, you know,

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Speaker 6: can be debated amongst you know, the conversations that are having.

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Speaker 1: No The problem is she was dehydrated. And one thing

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Speaker 1: as a producer that I appreciate. Look, I want you

522
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Speaker 1: to be thirsty. I don't want you to be dehydrated, though,

523
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: And this is the difference. Thursday means you will do

524
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Speaker 1: whatever it tastes to make sure the show is great,

525
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Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Like I'm going to tell my truth,

526
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Speaker 1: I think you have someone like a Winter Williams on

527
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Speaker 1: the Love and Marriage DC franchise, who is an outstanding

528
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: personality who gives everything to the show and it shows

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Speaker 1: in the product. I think Noela should study Melody Holt.

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Speaker 1: I think Noela should have studied some of those women

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Speaker 1: who are naturally themselves and are great. So I was

532
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Speaker 1: not surprised she got fired, but I was disappointed that.

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Speaker 2: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: It could have been interesting to see what a second

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Speaker 1: season will look like because I just don't think a

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Speaker 1: first season Housewise should ever get fired.

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Speaker 6: In my opinion, I do, but I'm not a producer, right,

538
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Speaker 6: I'm just a viewer. I do certain people like to me,

539
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 6: Samari Devau needed to go, or Real Housewives of Atlanta

540
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 6: Carlton on Beverly Hills, she needed to go.

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Speaker 5: There were people who literally just went and done so

542
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Speaker 5: they had to go.

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Speaker 6: There are also situations where those one and dons are

544
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 6: a damn shaking people like Claudia Jordan, right, people like

545
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 6: Noela or real housewives of Orange County. Now, if I'm

546
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 6: being honest, yes, I definitely saw that the parched nature

547
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 6: of some of the choices that were made, you know,

548
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 6: and Noela's wielhouse. But I just I think I just

549
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 6: wanted her to work because I felt like the fundamental

550
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 6: elements of a good housewife were there, and I think

551
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 6: Noela just needed to be a little bit more. I

552
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Speaker 6: don't even know how to describe it, but there was

553
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 6: there was a disconnect there, it was and there was

554
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 6: something performative about, you know, the way that we experienced

555
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Speaker 6: her on the show.

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Speaker 5: I definitely see it.

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Speaker 6: I just would I think if given the proper tools,

558
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 6: she could have been a great housewife on Orange County.

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Speaker 6: I do, and by proper tools, I mean a better cast.

560
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Speaker 6: Because let's be clear, how much can you do with

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Speaker 6: Gina and Emily, right, I thought that, you know, and

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Speaker 6: then her husband as well. I don't think that he

563
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Speaker 6: helped her in any way. I think that is the

564
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Speaker 6: scandal involving him. I actually think that hurt her a

565
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Speaker 6: little bit. Noela was so wild it would have been

566
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Speaker 6: nice to see her with a stable family unit to

567
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Speaker 6: kind of balance out the antics. And I think that

568
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Speaker 6: his unwillingness to participate in this situation kind of hurt her.

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Speaker 6: So you know, they did my girl dirty, but whatever,

570
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Speaker 6: you know, and she contributed to that with her her actions.

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Speaker 1: Do you think have a debro is the cause of

572
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Speaker 1: Noela not being asked back for another season?

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Speaker 6: No, because I don't think that with I think that

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Speaker 6: that there are other MVPs in the in the Orange County,

575
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Speaker 6: you know, universe that kind of are more valuable.

576
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Speaker 5: To the franchise than Heather is.

577
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Speaker 6: I think when you have someone like Tamra who's willing

578
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Speaker 6: to come back and who we know can really be

579
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 6: she can drive that cast on her own, right. I

580
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 6: think with people like that willing to come back, Heather

581
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Speaker 6: do bro. While she has a beautiful home and a

582
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Speaker 6: very rich, wealthy family and her I think her children

583
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 6: are interesting, but I don't think that she is like

584
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Speaker 6: an anchor for the cast in a way that she

585
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 6: would have that sort of influence to say, you know

586
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Speaker 6: her or me or I don't want to participate if

587
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Speaker 6: she is.

588
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 5: I don't think Heather has that sort.

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Speaker 2: Of pull I do you know what it is to me?

590
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Speaker 1: You know, I think she thought Novella declassed the show

591
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you know, I think she thought. I

592
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: think she thought, look, I'm coming back on the show,

593
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: bringing my Noboo dinners, my Noboo chef, you know, to

594
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Speaker 1: this franchise.

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Speaker 2: Y'all had Kelly Dodd on it. She's not my cup

596
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: of tea.

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Speaker 1: I think Kelly DoD is not on the show because

598
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: of Heba Debro and I know watch the shows past

599
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: episode seven, so I don't watch the reunion. But the

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Speaker 1: cliff that became viral was Heather sort of send off

601
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Speaker 1: message to Noela where she said, if you and I

602
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Speaker 1: get the opportunity to be around each other again, I

603
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: think you and I would actually get along. And a

604
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: lot of people took that ask Okay, Mama, you may

605
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: be onto something in terms of Noela's fate. So because

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Speaker 1: of that is what I believe. Again, am I always right?

607
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 5: Yes?

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00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: However I could be wrong in this instant.

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Speaker 6: The only point that I would like to make as

610
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 6: far as that is concerned, is that, well, Heather Durou's

611
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 6: lifestyle is aspirational, right, Like you see these things in

612
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 6: his wealth and like you said, the noble chefs in

613
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 6: the home, cooking these.

614
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 5: Dinners and all those things. That's great.

615
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 6: But to me, from what I know of the real

616
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 6: Housewives of Orange County, it never was really about aspirational living.

617
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 6: These were wealthy women because they lived in an area

618
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 6: that was really expensive, but their homes weren't necessarily sprawling estates,

619
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

620
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Speaker 5: They were very every day woman in that environment.

621
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Speaker 6: There wasn't the like rich, wealthy lifestyle element that existed

622
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 6: in say, Beverly Hills.

623
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Speaker 5: So I do think that's a value to this this cast.

624
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 6: But when you have a girl who literally will put

625
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 6: on you know, some some wooden wedge sandals like Tamra Barney,

626
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 6: you Tambra Judge, you know what I'm saying, and get

627
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 6: in there and you know just kind of like give

628
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 6: you that braw, you know what I mean, authentic. You

629
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 6: know that that's the spirit of Orange County to me,

630
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 6: you know what i mean, Like they were never the

631
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 6: style girls or the you know, the wealthy. You know,

632
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 6: they just was doing all right, you know, but willing

633
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 6: to kind of get in that paint. So I hope

634
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 6: that that is not why Noella left because if you know,

635
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 6: if we're tipping, the scales of Noela was more in

636
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 6: the heather was entertaining because of Noela this season.

637
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: The season would have been more of a flop with

638
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: Thatt Noela. But let's move on to another first black

639
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: housewife and that is your co host, Ebony K. Williams,

640
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: who I had on my podcast. So as we all know,

641
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of New York City is being split

642
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: into a legacy franchise in addition to a more diverse

643
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: franchise of the city.

644
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: You being friends with Ebany K.

645
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: William do you think she will be asked back to

646
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: the show.

647
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 5: Yes, I do.

648
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 6: I don't know whether she will participate in it, but

649
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 6: I definitely think that her what they described this new

650
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 6: reimagined Real Housewives of New York series to be. I

651
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 6: think that she is literally the personification of everything that

652
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 6: they said they were looking for. And I think that

653
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 6: her being so that as opposed to what the franchise

654
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 6: once was, That's exactly why there was a disconnect between

655
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 6: her and some of the more some of the more

656
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 6: you know, stale cast members on that show. But I

657
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 6: definitely think that she speaks to what the new vision

658
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 6: of the show would be and I would love to

659
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 6: see her have fun on the show with a cast

660
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Speaker 6: of women who are her contemporaries and are her peers.

661
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Speaker 6: In the New York society, Ebone is very well connected

662
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 6: and you can see it and through the work that

663
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 6: she does and in the way that she presents where you.

664
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Speaker 5: See her in the city. She's a socialite.

665
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 6: She is very heavily involved in all of the right

666
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 6: communities in New York, and I think that they would

667
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 6: be foolish not to include her in that. She's busy,

668
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 6: so I don't know if she would even be open

669
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Speaker 6: to doing it. And she also had an experience that

670
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 6: you know, she handled like a pro, but was that

671
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 6: necessarily the most comfortable experience for her, you know with

672
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Speaker 6: the fans from that season, So we don't even know

673
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Speaker 6: if that's something she would be interesting in. I would

674
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Speaker 6: love to see people get to know the Ebony that

675
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Speaker 6: I know.

676
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that, because do you think that show

677
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: represented the EBONYE. K. Williams that you are in real

678
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: life friends.

679
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 6: With, Yes, in a way that she's a principled woman

680
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 6: who is very much governed by a sense of right

681
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 6: and wrong. She is very passionate about fighting for black

682
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 6: people in this country, and she's literally done the work.

683
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 6: She's an attorney, so she's done the work to be

684
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 6: able to empower herself to do just that, and her

685
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 6: work record speaks for that. So in that vein, yes,

686
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 6: I know Ebany personally, So there's a comfort level of

687
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 6: transparency that her and I have as friends, which you know,

688
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 6: you can only show so much of on television if

689
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 6: given the opportunity too. And I don't think that she

690
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 6: was given the opportunity to show that side of her,

691
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 6: because it was much more interesting to watch her do

692
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 6: this work to help these women who some were willing

693
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 6: and some were unwilling to unlearn these really bad, you know,

694
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 6: ways that they have had.

695
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Speaker 5: And so I think that that kind.

696
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 6: Of eclipsed the fun, hilarious side of Abbey that you

697
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 6: and I both know, and I think if given the opportunity,

698
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 6: she would excel. And the people that got it this

699
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 6: Ebbey's experience on Ronie thirteen to me, if you got it,

700
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 6: you got it.

701
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 5: If you didn't, you just didn't, and you didn't.

702
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 6: Get it for a reason, because she was so clear

703
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 6: and intentional with the conversations that she was having with

704
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 6: those women.

705
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 5: It just was simple to me.

706
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 6: And either you were a person who found herself uncomfortable

707
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 6: in those situations so you were turned off to her

708
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 6: on the show, which I get, or you are a

709
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 6: person who was like, damn, you know, she is really

710
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 6: keeping her composure amongst the sea of women who I

711
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 6: would be cussing out, you know what I'm saying. But

712
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 6: she was handling herself very well. So I would love

713
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Speaker 6: to see her let her hair down and be the

714
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Speaker 6: e that I know she is on Ronnie for the

715
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 6: world to see. I think she deserves that, I don't think,

716
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 6: especially since they did not have a reunion where she

717
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 6: would have been able to answer your questions and really

718
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 6: identify her reasons, why, her intentions.

719
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 5: Behind some of the choices she made on the show.

720
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Speaker 5: She was robbed of that.

721
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Speaker 6: So I think it's only fair that she's given an

722
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 6: opportunity to shine amongst the crest of women who she

723
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 6: is more suited to be amongst.

724
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Speaker 1: So yeah, and if she's not asked back, what do

725
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: you think what happened?

726
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 5: Nothing?

727
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 6: I think life would go on and she would end

728
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 6: up on the view somewhere or on a panel talk

729
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 6: show where she can use her expertise and her charm

730
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 6: and her humor to kind of wool the world over

731
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Speaker 6: in another way if she so wishes to do that.

732
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 6: And Ronie God blessed the casting director to hopefully they

733
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Speaker 6: get it right and find these dynamic women that you

734
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 6: and I know exist in mass in New York City.

735
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 6: There are so many women who can make a dynamic cast, wealthy, connected, powerful, funny, smart, sexy, beautiful,

736
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 6: interesting In general. New York City is populated with tons

737
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 6: of these women and I see them every day.

738
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 5: So if not, I'm sure they'll be able to do

739
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 5: their thing.

740
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 6: And much love to the show because no matter what,

741
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 6: she still held that apple, and she will always be

742
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 6: a real housewife from New York City, whether the audience

743
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 6: likes it or not. So hopefully we get to see

744
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 6: her come back, and if not, she made her mark.

745
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: Let's get into one of your favorites, Love Marriage Franchise,

746
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: because you love Huntsville and you also love DC.

747
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: I do, so let's.

748
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: Talk about this past week's episode of Love and Marriage DC,

749
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: where Winter Williams Yes gabe A Karen Clark Sheard mixed

750
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: in with Deranda Clark Cole gospel him about her listen

751
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: ex husband Kevin and the couple's trip of it all.

752
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 6: So let's let's let's just speak overall about the overall

753
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 6: about loving marriage DC.

754
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 5: Right, this is hit a few key points. Number one.

755
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 6: Number one, we're witnessing the birth of some reality superstars

756
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 6: here because Ashley Silva was born to do this. Okay,

757
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 6: she is a natural. She's fearless on camera. She is

758
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 6: unafraid to have an honest reaction. You can watch her.

759
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 6: She's very What I love most about Ashley is she's very,

760
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 6: very present in the scenes. She's giving it to you

761
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 6: right off the dome. She's not rehearsed. She is actually

762
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 6: being authentic inn these scenes. And I appreciate that right

763
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 6: because it makes for great television. To me, She's the

764
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 6: perfect balance to a person like Ariana Tyler, who is.

765
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 5: Essentially a nice she she is endearing.

766
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 6: The scene when her and Jamie, her oldest son, were

767
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 6: at the car line and she became tearful talking to it.

768
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 6: That was some real black shit, black mother and son

769
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 6: shit that we witnessed.

770
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 5: That was real.

771
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 6: Those were real concerns she had for her family, and

772
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 6: it just it made her personal story valuable more than

773
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 6: her having conflict with these women or whatever. Tasha is

774
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 6: a great friend of the show, right, She's tapping in

775
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 6: when as needed and giving us just enough Winter Williams,

776
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 6: I believe, and this is totally your call, but I

777
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 6: believe next year Winner will be in the credits. In

778
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 6: the opening credits of season two. There's no reason she

779
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 6: has literally like danced beautifully across our television screens for

780
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 6: nine episodes. Right, we're looking forward to episode ten, the reunion,

781
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 6: which she actually went live a couple of days ago,

782
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 6: and she was She didn't really give anything away, but

783
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 6: she said just enough for us to know that there

784
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 6: are fireworks ahead of us at their reunion. I cannot wait.

785
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, So tomorrow is the season finale of Love and

786
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: Matter of DC, and then after the week after that

787
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: is the two part reunion. The first part is going

788
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: to air and Dustin. All I'm going to say to

789
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: you is it is the coldest winter ever at this reunion.

790
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 5: I'm so ready.

791
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 6: And we knew we expected that, right, We kind of

792
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 6: expected her to be the center of the nucleus of

793
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 6: the conversations that would take place at the reunion.

794
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 5: But I can't wait to see just how fast this

795
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 5: thing spins.

796
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 6: Monique Samuels is someone who when we met Monique, I

797
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 6: love Monique. I'm a Monique Samuels fan, and immediately I

798
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 6: identify the things about her that made her perfect to

799
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 6: be on ensemble reality television cast like RHOP and now

800
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 6: Loving Marriage DC, where she's even more comfortable. Right, But

801
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 6: she wasn't my favorite when she was introduced on season

802
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 6: two of RHOP. She grew on me and she I

803
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 6: grew to literally love Monique and I was totally on

804
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 6: her side in the season five divide. I was completely

805
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 6: team Monique Samuels. So this redemption arc that she's getting,

806
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 6: you know, leading this cast in Love and.

807
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 5: Marriage DC, I love to see it.

808
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 6: And Chris are a beautiful black family with beautiful Black children,

809
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 6: and they need to be viewed. We need to see

810
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 6: those little kids running across aint the Serengaddy out in

811
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 6: Africa and VKA. We need to see all of that.

812
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 6: We love it, right, and I think that she was

813
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 6: gifted in this cast more willing participants in the show

814
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 6: right because Herrina is showing up right, Ashley is showing

815
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 6: the fuck up right, and Monique is able to kind

816
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 6: of exist in a way where she's not infallible. You know,

817
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 6: she's without fault on this cast, She's definitely been pushing

818
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 6: certain buttons and flipping certain switshes to keep the conversation moving.

819
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 6: But it works and we get to see the growth.

820
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: Monique is a great anchor, bringing out the best you

821
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: know around her. And like you said, Ashley, and I

822
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: said this to the audience before the showvin Air, that

823
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: she's going to be one of the most iconic reality

824
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: starts in the world. Arena is fantastic winter, like you said, Tasha,

825
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: but Monique, Monique's eye for talent and Monique's eye for

826
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: making sure a scene takes place is the reason why

827
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: I say this season could not have happened without Monique.

828
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 5: Monique.

829
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: Monique has this very quiet presence to where she's able

830
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: to move the pieces around. Monique is like I'm the anchor,

831
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: She's the bone collector, she's the messenger, she's the peace baker.

832
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: She hosts these parties like Monique is everything.

833
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: And I'm so happy you saw the intention of what

834
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to do with Monique on love and marriage

835
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: and that really wants to show a different side of her.

836
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: And yes, listen, this all is gonna be haters, and

837
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: there's people who are like she talks to Chris dirty,

838
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: which we do get into at the reunion. And all

839
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to say is Monique Samuel's gives a Maya

840
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: Angelo Inspire declaration on Black women and their husbands. And

841
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: when I say to you, it gave me chills. You

842
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: know Maya's book Why the Cage Verse sings, Baby, Why

843
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: Monique is singing? Because I'm telling you it is going

844
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: to inspire the people.

845
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 6: We are definitely ready that cast is really doing their thing,

846
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 6: and getting to know them has been great. I've encouraged

847
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 6: everybody I can to watch it because we're literally watching

848
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 6: these stars be born.

849
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 5: Astley Silva was born.

850
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 6: To be a reality television star. She's at a place

851
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 6: in her life where she wants something of her her own.

852
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 6: She's tired of just being Quick's wife, and I think

853
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 6: she was upfront about that from the beginning, So this

854
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 6: opportunity was perfect for her. I saw clips from her

855
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 6: down in essence last weekend. She looked so beautiful, bone straight,

856
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 6: long hair, you know, down to her hips, and she

857
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 6: was being photographed with the fans like she's really really,

858
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 6: She's in her groove with this and that's what we

859
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 6: want because DA equates to an incredible performance on camera

860
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 6: when it's time and it is authentic. She I don't

861
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 6: feel like she's putting on or trying, or thirsty or

862
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 6: parted or dehydrated, even.

863
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 5: Like we mentioned, she's in fact the opposite. She's so real.

864
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 6: So I just I've thoroughly been enjoying that.

865
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 5: And do you do you?

866
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 6: I get Chara whit Phil and you worked with Charade

867
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 6: season one, so you knew you get it. I get

868
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 6: CHARAE Whitfield vibes from Ashley Silva as far as her

869
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 6: just being like a natural, like she literally is perfect

870
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 6: on camera in these scenes.

871
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, athlete Sylbil was born to be a star.

872
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: But it's sort of similar to when I met Melody.

873
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: Melody was born to be a star and born to

874
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: be on television. You're also a big Love and Marriage

875
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: Huts fans.

876
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 6: It's so funny because Love and Marriage Huntsville we never watched.

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Speaker 6: We didn't watch that show in the first season, you know,

878
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 6: anticipating drama. It wasn't conflict driven. We were fascinated by

879
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 6: these black, young entrepreneurial couples, you know in this city

880
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 6: that we were not exposed to previously on television that

881
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 6: were doing the damn thing, living good, raising children. And

882
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 6: it's sure there was conflict, you know, but that wasn't

883
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 6: why we watched the show. And so to see how

884
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 6: these relationships, the stories of these relationships, to see them

885
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 6: on fold, to see Tisha's growth, to see Letitia become

886
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 6: much more self aware as the time has gone on,

887
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 6: you know, to now the fourth season, to see the

888
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 6: dehydration of someone like Kiki, who will come on this

889
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 6: show and simply wants to be on the camera, come

890
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 6: hell or high water. To see Miss Wanda inserting herself.

891
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 6: Miss Wanda's playing a bit of a dangerous game to me, Carlos,

892
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 6: because you can see people like Melody and Kimmy. You know,

893
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 6: black people we raised a certain way. We just don't

894
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 6: argue with older people because it's disrespectful, especially considering that

895
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 6: that's someone's mama. You want people to respect your mama

896
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 6: and you respect other people's mother. Mss Wanda makes it

897
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 6: difficult because she brings herself right down to the ground

898
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 6: floor level with other cast members, and unfortunately we end

899
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 6: up with situations like we saw side of the Madonni

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00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 6: Grand opening that's coming up my one message. And I

901
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 6: am a person who has been Team Melody hosts actually

902
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 6: team Melody and Martel from day one. Martel has made

903
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 6: it a little less, He's made it a little challenging

904
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 6: to rally around him with support right as of late.

905
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 6: But Melody, this is the Melody Show. I love Melody, hope,

906
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 6: and that's just the way it is. That's the way

907
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 6: it's gonna be. She is loving Mary Huntsville. This is

908
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 6: her shit.

909
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 5: Okay, here's my thing, Melody.

910
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 6: Right now, Carlos is having a Nini League's season six moment.

911
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 5: Where she is.

912
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 6: Not being kind to certain people on this show that

913
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 6: I feel like she should be and I don't want

914
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 6: it to affect her and affect people's reception of her

915
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 6: on this cast. Melody doesn't have to be as defensive

916
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 6: as she has been lately with people like Kimmy okay,

917
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 6: and with other people who have offered up literally Kimmy

918
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 6: has been so fair to her and still has been

919
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 6: a friend to her, per what we've seen on the show.

920
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 5: And Melody is almost.

921
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 6: Looking for and anticipating the other shooter drop in her

922
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 6: relationship with Kimmy, and it's coming off as less than

923
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 6: likable for her, and I hate it so bad because

924
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 6: Melody is a person who is done wrong in all

925
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 6: of this, and I think that she operates from a

926
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 6: space of hey, let's not forget I got cheated on

927
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 6: this nigga had a baby on me, I had to

928
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 6: get a divorce, and now you guys are nitpicking my behavior.

929
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 6: But some of them are really trying to be her friends.

930
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 6: So I don't want her to go down that slippery

931
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 6: slope of a strength making herself a strange from the

932
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 6: rest of the cast. Still be friendly, Still be in

933
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 6: relationship with the people that you can keep calling the

934
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 6: shit out the way that you do, and you'll bat

935
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 6: a thousand for the rest of your time on this show, Melody,

936
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 6: because we support you, we love you, we want you

937
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 6: to win. I was so seeing her host the show

938
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 6: with you on own, you know, seeing her work outside

939
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 6: of the Love and Major's Huntsville universe. That's what we want.

940
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 6: We love to see that because she's got what it takes.

941
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 6: Melody Hot is, without a doubt, a star.

942
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 5: She has star.

943
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 6: Quality, flat out, and she's prepared and ready for these opportunities.

944
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 6: So I just want to see her continue to have

945
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 6: that sort of growth. And I also want to see

946
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 6: her kind of safeguard her likability factor amongst the cast,

947
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 6: because I think that's important and I don't want to

948
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 6: see her Nini leaks herself amongst this cast of characters.

949
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 6: When Nini made Cynthia crime, go ahead and laugh, Carlos,

950
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 6: because it's the truth. When Nini made Cynthia cry and

951
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 6: Savannah when she was questioning Cynthia's parenting of Noel, we

952
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 6: are the fans very much developed a side that has

953
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 6: grown into a resentment almost to this day, because her

954
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 6: behavior has spoken to that nastiness and it was so unnecessary, right.

955
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 5: We didn't like seeing her do Cynthia like that because

956
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 5: Cynthia was a loving friend to Neini and she didn't

957
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 5: deserve that. I don't want to see Melody make that mistake.

958
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 6: And I believe that Melody Holt is a stud enough

959
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 6: and smart enough and aware enough of how to move

960
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 6: within this space that she won't let it happen. But

961
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 6: sometimes you just need a little touch of love on

962
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 6: the shoulder to say, hey, boo, don't do it that way,

963
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 6: because we love you. Make sure you still being friends

964
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 6: with these people where you can.

965
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: Isn't Dustin such a good time And let's not even

966
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: get into his boy. Hi, this is Dustin, and this

967
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: is how I feel about loving marriage.

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Speaker 5: Haun's building.

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00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, Like Melody, Monique, Cynthia, Yeah, you

970
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: don't look I think y'all like to read me and

971
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 1: my hot pitch voice, huney, but I can't go deep

972
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: very quiet storm okay, late night radio voice.

973
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: Yes, but all jokes.

974
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Speaker 1: I really hope you'll enjoyed that conversation with Dustin. It

975
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: was so interesting to hear his take on jen Shaw

976
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: being a city girl. But now she's going to be

977
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: a prison bay and I really do feel sorry for her,

978
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: and it's going to be very interesting to see whether

979
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: or not the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City can't

980
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: survive without her.

981
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: But I want to hear from you guys.

982
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: Okay, thoughts, opinions.

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00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 2: Read about my recap with Dustin.

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Speaker 1: Email me at Reality with the King at stiffrid dot

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