Speaker 1: It's another DNA test, happy ending after seventy years of misery.
Speaker 2: It's one more thing. I'm strong and gedye. I look
Speaker 2: forward to that. I can't imagine what that is. But
Speaker 2: first this, as it came up in a one circle
Speaker 2: I run in. I run in many different kinds of circles, Katie, Oh, okay,
Speaker 2: running in circles. Indeed, this was tweeted out by Marjorie
Speaker 2: Taylor Green yesterday. It was a retweet of a story
Speaker 2: from Robert F. Kennedy Junior. So you combining RFK Junior
Speaker 2: with Marjorie Taylor Green, she tweeted out, holy shit, Robert F.
Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior just exposed democrats for poisoning children's food. This
Speaker 2: is massive. And I didn't actually read the story, but
Speaker 2: I saw it bouncing around and I had it brought
Speaker 2: up to at least one person in private life about
Speaker 2: democrats are poisoning our food and we need to watch
Speaker 2: out for it. It's amazing, like strick nine or rat poison,
Speaker 2: or like too much sugar and yeah, just all the
Speaker 2: all the bad for you chemicals, which I mean, and
Speaker 2: our kid Jr. Is standing in front of a box
Speaker 2: of Captain Crunch and cheese, it's and all that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff. I mean, he's not he's not lying about
Speaker 2: how unhealthy all that stuff is. You know, stuff that
Speaker 2: tastes good. It's all the stuff that tastes good. And
Speaker 2: I eat some of it and I'm still alive. And
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if it's a did you
Speaker 2: just cheese? Its? No?
Speaker 3: Yes, no.
Speaker 1: Refined garbage. You people are feeding into your bodies. Do
Speaker 1: you not like your bodies? Do you want them to
Speaker 1: be dead? You won't need you won't eat it?
Speaker 2: Cheese it no?
Speaker 3: No, what I thought I knew you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something is wrong. I always do with my son
Speaker 2: when he says stuff like that, I say, get out
Speaker 2: right now, you walk out. We're not having a miss
Speaker 2: how you're adopted, he said. My son said the other day,
Speaker 2: I don't like steak. I said, get out. I'm big on.
Speaker 3: You're out of the will at this point in my life.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's it.
Speaker 1: You're out of the will. I try to avoid the
Speaker 1: ultra process stuff. I try very hard these days.
Speaker 2: Good for you, aren't you? Aren't you better than everyone?
Speaker 1: Well, now I gotta look at I've got to admit
Speaker 1: I'm really into the pretzel chips. I don't don't think
Speaker 1: those are ultra fine, but I got to look at
Speaker 1: the ingredients because if they are, I'll stop eating them
Speaker 1: really right after I polish off the three bags I
Speaker 1: got in the in the pantry.
Speaker 2: You just hate joy. I don't understand your entire moderation. Yes,
Speaker 2: you should see my liquor cabinet. There's a little that's
Speaker 2: one of the first. That's one of the first things
Speaker 2: you ever said to me thirty four years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love Jesuits. No, everything in moderation, including moderation, which
Speaker 2: I had, oh point, had never heard before. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: is It's been my life story. Yeah. Now you've got
Speaker 2: a tally band like no tolerance for Jesus, very much
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, replaced them with Scotch right, which.
Speaker 1: I would make my wife walk fifteen feet behind me,
Speaker 1: and I don't allow her to eat Jesus.
Speaker 2: Ah boy.
Speaker 1: So yet another one of these twenty three and Me
Speaker 1: or whatever service it was DNA match stories. This one
Speaker 1: is quite astounding. There's part of me that hesitates to
Speaker 1: even bring the story because there are so many families.
Speaker 1: You know what a zealot I am not about cheese its,
Speaker 1: but about free range parenting, parenting and how it's important
Speaker 1: that you let your kids take risks and try and
Speaker 1: fail and get lost and find their way back again.
Speaker 1: All those things did give you enough confidence to take
Speaker 1: on life without lots of anxiety and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And I think this will of the great failings of
Speaker 1: the modern world. But this is a story about a
Speaker 1: child abduction who and you know, it's every parent's most
Speaker 1: horrifying nightmare, certainly in that top tier. This one is
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty one a park in West Oakland, California.
Speaker 1: A little boy and his a little older brother, I
Speaker 1: think he's a couple of years older, are playing in
Speaker 1: the park and some woman spoke Spanish to their mom,
Speaker 1: who was born in Puerto Rico, and they chatted and
Speaker 1: laughed and the rest of it. And it's not clear
Speaker 1: from the story, but mom's attention was taken away or whatever.
Speaker 2: Six year old.
Speaker 3: Bam gone the blank of it. Wow, never found.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're not required to keep your eye
Speaker 2: on your kid every second at the park, right because,
Speaker 2: but oh my god, that's horrific.
Speaker 1: Worth mentioning that this sort of thing was much more
Speaker 1: common back in the day. It wasn't It was more
Speaker 1: common than this today.
Speaker 2: But obviously it's way easier to get away with. I mean,
Speaker 2: is there been no cameras anywhere, no DNA.
Speaker 1: No cell phone pin in the tower, DNA, DNA's well,
Speaker 1: which factors in the story. Obviously I've already said.
Speaker 2: No, wait to the story out beyond your tiny little neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Really right, Michael TV picked it up? Then it just
Speaker 2: be local.
Speaker 1: Still, so, little six year old Luis Albino was whisked away.
Speaker 1: The only witness his older brother Roger, who again was
Speaker 1: just a little bit older, who who saw the woman
Speaker 1: in a bandana speaking Spanish to his Puerto Rican mom,
Speaker 1: offered him candy and whisked him away. What happened was
Speaker 1: this woman flew him, little Luis to the East coast,
Speaker 1: and she and her husband raised him as their own.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's that's not your original fear if your
Speaker 2: kid gets snatched, that they're gonna be raised by family
Speaker 2: who wants a kid.
Speaker 1: And loved right right, you know, still unspeakable nightmare. But
Speaker 1: the problem was, for seventy years, nobody knew what happened
Speaker 1: to him seven and the family always held the missing
Speaker 1: child in their hearts would talk about him and had
Speaker 1: pictures hanging up in the home. The mother, as you
Speaker 1: might guess, worried and cried and thought about it for
Speaker 1: the rest of her days until she passed away in
Speaker 1: the year two thousand and five. She never gave up
Speaker 1: hope that her son was alive somewhere. Well, he was.
Speaker 3: What happened was his niece? I think, yeah, his name
Speaker 3: his niece.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did one of those DNA tests and just for fun,
Speaker 1: kicked around looking for a match and found a man. Unexpectedly,
Speaker 1: it was a twenty two percent match, and reached out
Speaker 1: to him but nothing. He did not respond, and I
Speaker 1: can get that either. He thought it was a scammer.
Speaker 1: He didn't even see it. He thought it was junk
Speaker 1: email or what have you. And so four years went by,
Speaker 1: but then she and her daughters started thinking about her
Speaker 1: cousin who was whisked away and never seen again, and
Speaker 1: started to research old Oakland Tribune articles on microfilm at
Speaker 1: the public library, and one had a picture of her
Speaker 1: two uncles, Roger and little Luise, who disappeared, and this
Speaker 1: reignited a quest to find her missing relatives. So she
Speaker 1: went to the Oakland PD and said, hey, I don't
Speaker 1: know if this would be helpful at all, but I
Speaker 1: found a guy who's a twenty two percent match to
Speaker 1: me on the East coast, And so the investigator said, wow,
Speaker 1: that could be something. Fired up the case again found
Speaker 1: this guy. Turns out it was little Louise, who had
Speaker 1: fought in Vietnam as a marine. He'd become a father
Speaker 1: and a grandfather, he was a firefighter.
Speaker 2: Did he think those people were his parents or what
Speaker 2: was his memory of everything? They don't make that clear
Speaker 2: because you're in the start. If you're six, you would
Speaker 2: you'd remember being taken away from your parents.
Speaker 1: You would have vague memories of it. But who knows
Speaker 1: what sort of you know, hinky psychological Tell a few
Speaker 1: tricks they played on the poor little lad.
Speaker 2: If you told a six year old over and over
Speaker 2: again and this is horrific, but no, your mom, your
Speaker 2: mom and dad told me to do this. They wanted
Speaker 2: to do this. They wanted you to be sent off.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, whatever you need to so.
Speaker 1: That that lady, that lady was your babysitter. We'd asked
Speaker 1: her to take care of you. Sure you can repeat
Speaker 1: that over and.
Speaker 2: Over and over again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, this guy, finally Luis Uh flew out west
Speaker 1: and met his his niece, her sister, other relatives in Oakland,
Speaker 1: and then the next day, in a heartbreaking and heartwarming scene, simultaneously,
Speaker 1: he met his long lost big brother, who was the
Speaker 1: last person to see him snatched away from the park
Speaker 1: and and they they hit it off and I had wonderful,
Speaker 1: you know, time together. And his dad died. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: not his dad. His brother died a few months after that,
Speaker 1: in July. I think of this year. It was his
Speaker 1: final meeting. I'm sorry he was in July for three weeks.
Speaker 1: It was his final meeting because the brother then died
Speaker 1: in August. Sorry, I had timetable all jumbled up. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I think he died happily. The older brother. He was
Speaker 1: at peace with himself, knowing that his brother was finally found.
Speaker 3: Man, can you imagine anything that heavy? Oh and the
Speaker 3: mom who passed clinging to hope.
Speaker 1: The gal that the niece told the Mercury News I
Speaker 1: was always determined to find him. And who knows my
Speaker 1: story out there? It could help other families going through
Speaker 1: the same thing. I would say, don't give up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to wonder how many times this has happened,
Speaker 4: and how many cases there are out there like this
Speaker 4: that just haven't been uncovered yet.
Speaker 2: Yeez, I don't know. I don't want to take this dark,
Speaker 2: this podcast dark. But I think I assume the vast
Speaker 2: majority of time the kids have horrific lives if not
Speaker 2: snuffed out fairly soon. Isn't that usually the case sexual pervs?
Speaker 2: Isn't that majority now or in nineteen fifty one? I
Speaker 2: would have to look into that. I don't know the
Speaker 2: answer to that question.
Speaker 1: I assume what you're implying is correct, but I don't
Speaker 1: know that it is. Oh, then you got the all
Speaker 1: the crimes that have been solved with this DNA stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have many thoughts, but they're all so dark.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I wanted to discuss them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't really, I haven't done the Hey can
Speaker 1: you find me matches and who are my relatives around
Speaker 1: the country? I probably should, just because you know I at.
Speaker 3: Worst, I think it would be a big nothing.
Speaker 2: You mean, you got a big brother you don't know
Speaker 2: about or what? Or well no, no, I just you
Speaker 2: know dad and another family on the side. I mean,
Speaker 2: what are you suggesting here my dad is still with us. Please, No,
Speaker 2: that would be shocking.
Speaker 1: I'd imagine a lot of people have gone into it thinking, well,
Speaker 1: what's the worst it could happen, It'll be interesting, and
Speaker 1: then find out dad has a family across town or
Speaker 1: what have you. But the only thing I've done, Katie
Speaker 1: and found out is that I am so incredibly white.
Speaker 1: I am the whitest white man who's ever whited. I mean,
Speaker 1: for what it's worth, and I don't particularly care. I
Speaker 1: just thought it was kind of amuse.
Speaker 4: I'm apparently your white sister because I did the ancestry
Speaker 4: thing and found out I am also quite white.
Speaker 1: You're my sister from another myster Yeah, you could practically
Speaker 1: see my bones.
Speaker 2: I'm so white.
Speaker 3: Just a reminder to anybody that if you do the
Speaker 3: twenty three and meters, make sure you do a saliva sample,
Speaker 3: not a stool sample.
Speaker 2: Really messes up the results.
Speaker 1: You know what, Michael, that was idiotic and great, really
Speaker 1: messes up the results.
Speaker 2: Oh lord, well, I guess that's it. Oh that's one
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Speaker 2: You need to brush your teeth more often.