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Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky Rhett with you

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Speaker 3: on a Monday. As we look back on the weekend

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Speaker 3: that was a week fifteen, Buck, is this the last

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Speaker 3: time we see Rhett where the EYEU hat? Or is

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Speaker 3: he going to proudly be wearing that hat next week

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Speaker 3: after the knockoff Notre Dame in the college football playoff?

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Speaker 1: Well, the one thing I know, he's gonna wear the

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Speaker 1: hat regardless. But look, this is interesting. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people have this one pegged. It's almost like March Madness,

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Speaker 1: where people are always taking the five and twelve line.

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Speaker 1: I feel like people are just lining up taking the

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Speaker 1: hoosis because they feel like there's disadvantage that they have

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Speaker 1: over the fighting ards. I can't wait to see it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how we're gonna stack up with all

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Speaker 5: that talent and all that prestige. Touchdown, Jesus, I don't

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Speaker 5: know how we're gonna do it. I really don't.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be there, He's going to be there,

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Speaker 3: so it's gonna to be taken to another level.

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Speaker 6: Win.

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Speaker 3: It's going to go to another level of of of

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Speaker 3: joy and exuberances, and if they lose, he'll be he'll

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Speaker 3: be way in the dunch. But we'll have plenty of

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Speaker 3: time to get to the college football stuff later in

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Speaker 3: the week. We've got a lot of NFL to get to.

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Speaker 3: First of all, here the.

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Speaker 2: Game of the week, maybe build as the game.

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Speaker 3: Of the year based off where these two teams were

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Speaker 3: in separate conferences, but Buffalo Detroit that it ended up

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Speaker 3: being a high scoring game shouldn't be a surprise, U Buck.

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Speaker 3: My first takeaway on this, I'll get it to you

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Speaker 3: and go around the horn here, but we can hit

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Speaker 3: it from all levels was two things. Number One, Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen and I posted this when when when the kids

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Speaker 3: were little and used to have a birthday party and

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Speaker 3: seven year olds and I'm the all time quarterback with

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Speaker 3: a nerf ball. That kind of felt like what it

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Speaker 3: was watching Josh Allen out there, like you try and

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Speaker 3: try and blitzy and just kind of sidestep them.

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Speaker 2: Get out of the way.

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Speaker 3: Just just looks like he's on another planet in terms

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Speaker 3: of talent and ability. That was my first thought My

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Speaker 3: second thought was with Josh Allen watched him the last

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Speaker 3: two weeks. I haven't looked at the the the architecture

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Speaker 3: plans for this new building, this new stadium in Buffalo,

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Speaker 3: but maybe we should make that a dome, if not already,

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Speaker 3: because seeing what Josh Allen his skill set does on

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Speaker 3: a fast track indoors, they're gonna score fifty points a game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is unbelievable. I mean his MVP campaign is

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Speaker 1: like a runaway freight training right now. The last two

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Speaker 1: the main stage, he is dominated. He's been nothing short

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Speaker 1: or brilliant. And I think what Josh Allen is and

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Speaker 1: I saw this stat like like what he's had three

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Speaker 1: straight seasons where he's had thirty five total touchdowns. Like then,

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Speaker 1: he's had like two seasons of twenty five passing touchdowns

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Speaker 1: and ten rushing. I mean, this remarkable numbers for a

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Speaker 1: guy who was a dynamic dual threat that we didn't

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Speaker 1: He is one of the fascinating drafts stories that we

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Speaker 1: do what he has been able to do and accompls

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Speaker 1: with what he's accomplisces when we didn't really see some

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Speaker 5: And I think when you look at Josh Allen's impact,

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Speaker 5: because I think if you talk about the Bills defense,

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Speaker 5: who's their best, you know who's there who they're eleven best, Well,

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen's not on the field, but he's probably their

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Speaker 5: twelfth best defender because like, he puts so much pressure

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Speaker 5: helps Sean McDermott in that defense kind of figure out

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Speaker 5: second level certainly helps Buffalo a little bit. But man,

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Speaker 5: when you can force Jared Goff to drop back and

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Speaker 5: when you look at Josh Allen's impact, it's not just

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Speaker 3: Teach Yeah, on the Detroit side of things, though, they're

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Speaker 3: going to say we scored forty two points like that,

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Speaker 3: the bigger concern for me is that. And I've said

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Speaker 3: and the matchups that are gonna come. And I'm telling you,

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs with the injuries they have and Ali

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Speaker 2: But to me, it's the defense there.

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Speaker 3: If they can't get pressure and they've lost two key

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Speaker 3: the playoffs without a full deck along the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: We've seen what Matthew Stafford can do to teams who

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Speaker 3: can't rush the quarterback. And you saw it in this game,

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Speaker 3: what Josh Allen did to that Detroit defense. That to me, Bucky,

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Speaker 3: a little troubling there with the injuries mounting up for Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the funny thing is the season as

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Speaker 1: the postseason and when it comes to matchups, the defensive

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Speaker 1: injuries really make it troubling. When you think about some

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got Minnesota coming up at the I believe

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Speaker 3: it's Week eighteen. Tampa Bay matches up. I saw We'll

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Speaker 3: And that offense is rolling.

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting to see records put records to the side.

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Speaker 3: When you get in the postseason, it's kind of who's

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Speaker 3: playing their best and as they're getting there, and obviously

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Speaker 3: Buffalo has some warts on defense, but man, their offense

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Speaker 3: is humming and Detroit now they're starting to starting to

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Speaker 2: Another great matchup.

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Speaker 3: It was the game of the week in the State

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Speaker 3: of Pennsylvania. I can promise you that Pittsburgh and Philly

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Speaker 3: a game that Philly. It looks lopsided from the score

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Speaker 3: twenty seven thirteen. It was pretty competitive for a long time.

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Speaker 3: But Rhett, we were on Thursday night the other day

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Speaker 3: and everybody's talking about Everyone wants to talk about AJ

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Speaker 3: Brown and how upset he is, and I'm like, wow.

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Speaker 2: This is news.

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Speaker 3: At eleven Huh, receiver not happy with targets like this

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Speaker 2: Haven't seen this before? Yeah, and what do they do?

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Speaker 3: Disagrees and come out and fed him the rock and

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Speaker 3: passing game looked just fine there in Philly.

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Speaker 5: Oh, look at the hugs, right, look at the dance

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Speaker 5: that they celebrated with. But look, I think when you

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Speaker 5: Saquon Barkley didn't have the impact and looked like he

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Speaker 5: was a little banged up in this game too, Right,

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Speaker 5: But this is this is the right form, it feels

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Speaker 5: like for the Eagles offense, the right form you love. Right,

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Speaker 5: it's eleven targets for ay J Brown, twelve for Devonte

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Speaker 5: Smith ten plus for each of them. Saquon Barkley got

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Speaker 5: nineteen carries in this game. I think you'd probably like

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Speaker 5: to see Jalen Hurts come down, you know, into the

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Speaker 5: Barkley a little bit more. I know that there was

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Speaker 5: You're talking about thirty two attempts for Jalen Hurts and

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Speaker 5: when it's all said and done. Kenneth Gainwell got in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look a really dominant effort when you look at

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Speaker 1: the offense, and right, I think you're right about the formula.

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Speaker 1: They had forty two rushing attempts, they were able to

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Speaker 1: The funny thing is Devonte Smith and A. J.

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Speaker 6: Brown. It wasn't like they averaged.

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Speaker 1: how the squeaky wheel gets the greased. The thing that

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about though, the eagles and they're bickering and

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Speaker 1: they're fighting. Just the little camera called Nick Sirianni trying

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Speaker 1: But then but then Clint, Clint Hurt kind of got

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Speaker 1: talk to my guy. I just wonder about Nick Sirani

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Speaker 1: because whenever they put these things there, he certainly doesn't

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Speaker 1: I just don't like the way they kind of portrays

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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni as the ultimate leader of the squad.

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Speaker 2: I see. I think it's their identity.

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Speaker 3: I honestly don't mind it on the edge, it's it's

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Speaker 3: their identity, and it's it's a it's a city. It's

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Speaker 3: that is on like it's on eleven at all times

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Speaker 4: Right, what's going to bubble up next Sunday?

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Speaker 1: To tackle better. But you still feel good about where

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you I went through the pressures

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Speaker 3: But they and it wasn't just him. They had issues

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the underrated acquisitions in the offseason

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Speaker 5: And look, game flow obviously dictates some things when it

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Speaker 5: thirty four to fifteen in this one. Steelers and Eagles

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Speaker 4: Most of those cases.

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Speaker 3: Especially as we come down the home stretch. Look, shouldn't

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Speaker 3: When I when I saw this offense live and in person,

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Speaker 2: I mean, like he is.

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Speaker 3: He's the best physical wide receiver in the NFL and

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Speaker 3: He is so big, and he is so physical the

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Speaker 2: We start there.

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield is very confident and comfortable in this offense.

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Speaker 3: They they are excellent blockers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there you go.

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Speaker 3: They they are physical, they're blockers, they can run after

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Speaker 2: Those body blows. Oh it was over. It was really

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Speaker 3: It's uh, it's just a it was a second half

439
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Speaker 3: where they did whatever they wanted to do and they.

440
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Speaker 2: Were explosives everywhere in the run game the past game.

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Speaker 3: I just I came away from that going I've been

442
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Speaker 3: thinking that Tampa is kind of a little bit of

443
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Speaker 3: a fringe team. In the playoffs, we focused on those big,

444
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Speaker 3: those name brands. You know what's going to happen with Detroit?

445
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Speaker 2: Uh?

446
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Speaker 3: You know specifically that the Detroit the Eagles. I'm like, man,

447
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,399
Speaker 3: I'm seeing that up close and personal. I don't know

448
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Speaker 3: that Wo'd be too excited Buck if I saw Tampa

449
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs the way they look right now.

450
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah. To think about Tampa, they changed right after

451
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Speaker 6: the Baibwek.

452
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Speaker 1: The last four games since to buy, They've had over

453
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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty rushing yards in each of those performances.

454
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Speaker 1: As much as we talk about Baker Mayfield and Mike

455
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Speaker 1: Evans and how this team was previously constructed with Chris Godwin,

456
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Speaker 1: they were more of a throwing team, they have embraced

457
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Speaker 1: really the physical element of their personnel. They are a

458
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 1: team that can grind it out. You saw them get dirty.

459
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Speaker 1: They can produce explosive plays on the ground, and then

460
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Speaker 1: when you have Mike Evans on the outside, you always

461
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Speaker 1: have the ability to produce that explosive chunk.

462
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Speaker 6: Play through the air.

463
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield talked after the game about how we had

464
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Speaker 1: to flip the script on the charge we had to

465
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Speaker 1: out physical.

466
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Speaker 6: Them because that's their calling card.

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Speaker 1: Well, if the Tampa Bay Buccaneers fully embrace that, if

468
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Speaker 1: that's who they are, that becomes their identity, they're going

469
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Speaker 1: to be a team that really lives in the bully

470
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Speaker 1: ball world. Man, good luck dealing with them because their physicality,

471
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Speaker 1: their toughness, and their ability to produce explosive plays on

472
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Speaker 1: the ground and through the air A lot to deal

473
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Speaker 1: with when you're getting ready for them in a single

474
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Speaker 1: elimation tournament.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

476
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Speaker 5: And I think we've talked about this a couple of

477
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Speaker 5: times and you obviously got to see it now, you know,

478
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Speaker 5: in person, DJ, but the again and you look at

479
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 5: commitment to draft resources up front on the defensive side

480
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 5: of the ball, paying off right Vidavea, Elijah Knzi, Logan

481
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Speaker 5: Hall yah Ya Dabi. Those are big, physically framed dude. Yep, yep, definitely.

482
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Speaker 5: And and so you know, I think it's like, all right,

483
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Speaker 5: who do you want to be? Where do you feel

484
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Speaker 5: like we're best in terms of, you know, the type

485
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Speaker 5: of player we need on that side of the ball,

486
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Speaker 5: and they've had some continuity on that side of the

487
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Speaker 5: ball in terms of scheme for the last few years,

488
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Speaker 5: you know, as well with Todd Bowles, even going back

489
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Speaker 5: you know obviously to Bruce Arians. So it just feels

490
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Speaker 5: like they've got a nice marriage between you know, understanding

491
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Speaker 5: what the scheme needs, and then you know Jason Light

492
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Speaker 5: and his staff and and that whole crew going out

493
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Speaker 5: there and executing that and finding some you know, some

494
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Speaker 5: real fits and some real productive players. And obviously Vida

495
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Speaker 5: Vea certainly starts starts that conversation DJ up front.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a freak, and and get ready for that

497
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 3: game and studying it. I mean, it's it's some stuff

498
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Speaker 3: that nobody else does. I mean, we use the unicorn

499
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: word probably too much, but there is nobody like him

500
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Speaker 3: that has his combination of size, power, quickness, and he

501
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 3: wrecked Bradley Boseman in this game. He just gets constant

502
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 3: pocket pushed, which is a nightmare. You got to try

503
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Speaker 3: and run away from him when you're running the football.

504
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Speaker 3: You mentioned all those other guys, Kllijah Kanty's a really

505
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Speaker 3: really good player.

506
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Speaker 2: They have a good.

507
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Speaker 3: Front man, and that's a it's a it's a team

508
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Speaker 3: that's thoughtfully constructed by Jason light It's impressive.

509
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

510
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Speaker 3: To me, it was the biggest difference between what I saw,

511
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Speaker 3: like what I thought I was going to get, and

512
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Speaker 3: then sometimes you come out there and say, oh that

513
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Speaker 3: that maybe the charges didn't play well.

514
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Speaker 2: I mean, but the charges have been in every game

515
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Speaker 2: this whole year. They haven't been They've been treated like

516
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Speaker 2: this by anybody. This team came in here and physically

517
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Speaker 2: whooped them in every single way possible. It was not

518
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Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't. It was impressive.

519
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Speaker 1: Threat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was just kind of going back to it.

521
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Speaker 5: I was like, do you remember since you brought up,

522
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Speaker 5: you know, Mike Evans and the gold tag, do you

523
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Speaker 5: remember the draft conversation around Mike Evans when he was

524
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Speaker 5: coming out of a and m I felt like it

525
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Speaker 5: was like, man, big physical, you know, specimens probably a

526
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Speaker 5: little that was it?

527
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Speaker 4: Little? Yeah, yeah, a little bushes speed, but.

528
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Speaker 1: Yeah, straight line, a little tight.

529
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Speaker 4: Yeah, what are we talking about? Yard seasons?

530
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Speaker 2: What was his draft year?

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Speaker 4: Twenty fourteen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Ten years man, I'll uh still do I know, I

534
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Speaker 2: I know, I uh. I think that.

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Speaker 4: Gots a seventh overall pick updated.

536
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Speaker 2: NF NFL dot Com. My old reports got got pulled,

537
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Speaker 2: so I can. I'll find. I'll tell you what. I'll

538
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Speaker 2: tease that, I'll find.

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Speaker 5: It's just kind of curious next you know, just see

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Speaker 5: what that looked like, you know, considering how productive he's been.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was a draft. That was a Sammy

542
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Speaker 3: Watkins draft. You know, so Mike Evans was a seventh

543
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Speaker 3: player in that draft. I think he was where he

544
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Speaker 3: went well for thirty pick or a seventh pick.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, hindsight, hindsight it was too high in Greg Robinson.

547
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Speaker 3: But we'll leave that discussion for another day.

548
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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, you never know what makes them tick. You

549
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: never know what makes it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, missing a little something there, but no, he was.

551
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Speaker 3: He was impressive. The other thing, Buck, I think sometimes

552
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Speaker 3: with running backs not being there, we don't appreciate some

553
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Speaker 3: of the other aspects of it.

554
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Speaker 2: JK.

555
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Speaker 3: Dobbins, you know, this run game has not been the

556
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Speaker 3: same since he's been out. And the other thing that

557
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 3: is way underrated. He is one of the best pass

558
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Speaker 3: protecting backs in the NFL. And with the way the

559
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 3: Bucks blitzed and they blitzed the Chargers, that's the I

560
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Speaker 3: believe the second most time that Herbert's been blitzing his

561
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Speaker 3: entire career. It was over sixty percent, sixty three percent

562
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Speaker 3: or something like that that he was blitzing this ballgame. Well,

563
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Speaker 3: that's Todd Bowles being smart. You don't have your you

564
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Speaker 3: don't have your starting running back in there. You've got

565
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Speaker 3: a rookie and Kamani Vadell and I've got one of

566
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Speaker 3: the best off the ballitz blitzing linebackers in NFL history,

567
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Speaker 3: and Levante David have fun with that and that was

568
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Speaker 3: a major problem. So I think some of these issues

569
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Speaker 3: with the Chargers can get corrected a little bit with

570
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Speaker 3: some health provided JK can get back before the end

571
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Speaker 3: of the year.

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Speaker 2: But that's a big hole, man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a big hole to go back to

574
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Speaker 1: anything with Ty Bowles.

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Speaker 6: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: He's seen the list that he's never liked. I mean,

577
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Speaker 1: he doubts up pressure and one thing that you have

578
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Speaker 1: to know when they're back in the corner, they're bringing

579
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Speaker 1: pressure all around. And the crazy thing about the Tampa

580
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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, DJ, we could talk about it like if

581
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Speaker 1: we're Marck drafting and doing whatever we were saying, you

582
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Speaker 1: know what, tamp needs some corners. It's like he doesn't

583
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Speaker 1: care what he has on the perimeter. He is going

584
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Speaker 1: to downard up. He's gonna bring pressure, he's gonna bring heat,

585
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Speaker 1: and he's gonna dare your quarterback to be able to

586
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Speaker 1: find the open man. Yeah, the Temp Bay Buccaneers are problematic,

587
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Speaker 1: but I'll say this, I'm not worried about the Chargers.

588
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Speaker 1: I think sometimes you kind of have to have one

589
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Speaker 1: of those beat downs that kind of have to wake

590
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Speaker 1: up call. Jim Harbaugh talked about this is the adversity.

591
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Speaker 1: We got to work out way through it. They'll work

592
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Speaker 1: their way through it, and I think.

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Speaker 6: They'll be better because of it because we will make.

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Speaker 1: Them better prepared for the postseason. And they've gone through

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Speaker 1: something like that against tamp Bay.

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Speaker 4: Buccaneers lost four in a row. Now one four in

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Speaker 4: a row.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good turnaround Tampa, Yeah, no question, And look at

599
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Speaker 3: the wins. Tampa has on their ledger to look at

600
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Speaker 3: the teams they've beaten. They've they've amassed some quality wins

601
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Speaker 3: on there being some good ball clubs's yeah, not too bad. Yeah,

602
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Speaker 3: Detroit fill to the top two teams in the NFC.

603
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Speaker 3: Let's keep it moving here to uh I guess we

604
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Speaker 3: can call them rets Denver Broncos with bow knicks, starting

605
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: off a little slow in this thing, but picking it up,

606
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Speaker 3: getting going. But to me, this is this is about

607
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: that defense as much as it is about their offense, right.

608
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Speaker 5: Man, that was obviously they were. They were aided by

609
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Speaker 5: uh Ad Ni Mitchell throwing a pass in this game,

610
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Speaker 5: which I don't know that that's gonna stick in the

611
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Speaker 5: in the playbook, but Nick Benito sure was happy to

612
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Speaker 5: take that the distance.

613
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Speaker 4: Man.

614
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Speaker 5: The turnovers were just insane this week. I felt like,

615
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Speaker 5: and this was one of those games. Broncos forced five

616
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Speaker 5: turnovers here and moved to nine and five, and.

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Speaker 4: Look they turned ball over a bunch of themselves.

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Speaker 5: I mean, bo Nicks, you know, had three turnovers, two

619
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Speaker 5: of them in the second half. But he stayed clean

620
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Speaker 5: to the fourth quarter when they were making that run.

621
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Speaker 5: And this this thing really to me came back to,

622
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Speaker 5: you know, the momentum shift by taking seven points off

623
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Speaker 5: the board with Jonathan Taylor letting the ball go for

624
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Speaker 5: the goal line.

625
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Speaker 4: They scored twenty four unanswered.

626
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Speaker 5: The Broncos did after that, I just you know, like

627
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 5: this this play here, great run by Taylor and just

628
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 5: kind of lose his focus right at the end, and

629
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Speaker 5: I just don't understand that wasn't the only time it

630
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 5: happened this week either. But I did want to go

631
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Speaker 5: back to some of the quotes that Sean Payton had

632
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Speaker 5: about bo Nicks, because this was obviously not the peace

633
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Speaker 5: the resistance for his rookie season and his offensive Rookie

634
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Speaker 5: of the Year campaign, which we've been touting on this

635
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 5: show quite a bit. I think when you look at that,

636
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Speaker 5: I thought it was kind of cool. Sean Payton was like, yeah, look,

637
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 5: it's not all on bow. I made some dumb calls

638
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 5: in this game, and I'll fix that and I'll be better.

639
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 5: I'll put him in a better position to succeed there.

640
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Speaker 5: And I think then he also, you know, mentioned let

641
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Speaker 5: me get the exact quote here. I think he was

642
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 5: talking about the moxie and the poise that b Nicks had,

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Speaker 5: and I remember, you know, just a couple of weeks

644
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Speaker 5: ago when the Broncos kind of began this run. You know,

645
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Speaker 5: I was talking about folks that I talked to there

646
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Speaker 5: in Denver and just talking about the maturity that bo

647
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Speaker 5: Nicks had, like when things, you know, are hitting a

648
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 5: fan and things aren't going well, he's the same dude, right,

649
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Speaker 5: So you can always look to the quarterback, even as

650
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: a rookie, to kind of reset and settle down, because

651
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 5: you know that he's got the right temperament to handle things,

652
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 5: not just when they're going well, but when they're going poorly,

653
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 5: even when he's performing poorly. So I just think for

654
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 5: a rookie, and again we come back to the experience factor,

655
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: the guy's seeing a bunch of football already, right and

656
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Speaker 5: is prepared for moments like these, as tough as they

657
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 5: might be.

658
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: And I think you know, Sean Payton.

659
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 5: Has as a real high degree of appreciation for that

660
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 5: part of Bonnix's game.

661
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Buck. Yeah, And there's so.

662
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 6: Many things to talk about.

663
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: One I'm just trying to figure out, like how many

664
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: more highlights or low lights do we have to see

665
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: if guys dropping the ball before they get me into

666
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't understand the fascination with it.

667
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 6: I don't.

668
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: Maybe red Nose like, maybe that was cool. Donal Louis don't.

669
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 6: Know about it. I don't. I don't, I don't, I don't.

670
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: I don't understand it.

671
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 6: But man, that.

672
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: And the league for the Indianapolis Colts and for the

673
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: Annapolis Colts, like I want to say, they waste their

674
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: performance where they were clearly in control of the game

675
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: and they couldn't get it back. And there are people

676
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: that are upset in Indianapolis about Shane Styke and and

677
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: and Chris Ballad and all those things. But to me,

678
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: this team is good enough to be a playoff team.

679
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, man, they have hit the bumps

680
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: along the way. That's probably gonna keep them out of

681
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: the tournament unless some drastic happens for them over the

682
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: next four weeks.

683
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it appears to be on the outside looking in

684
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: at this point in time. Another team that's going to

685
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: be on that that's outside looking in more than like

686
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: he's Miami after they go to Houston and lose the

687
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: ball game there against the te I want to start

688
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: us off on this game and RTT take it from

689
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: the focus on Stroud and Stroud's not playing as well

690
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: as he did last year. He's turned the ball over more.

691
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: I broke that down on TV yesterday. Just some of

692
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: the things you see and some of us just look,

693
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: he's young player. He's just going to keep learning and growing.

694
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: And you go through a little thing like this I'm

695
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: not concerned about that, but I think in all the

696
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: discussion about Stroud, we forgot about the guy who was

697
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 3: picked right behind him, who was his teammate on the

698
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball, who's taking his game to

699
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: another level in Will Anderson and what he's done this year.

700
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: I think he's in double digit sacks now, but he

701
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: shows up every week when you watch him on there,

702
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: he's he is every bit as advertised. It doesn't seem

703
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: that long ago where there was the discussion about is

704
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: it going to be Tyree Wilson or is it going

705
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: to be Will Anderson?

706
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: Think about how these.

707
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: Little discussions buck buck, These little decisions that we sit

708
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 3: in draft rooms and debate, they have a long consequence. Now,

709
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: when you got to pick all the way up there

710
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: and you get the right one, it makes a big difference.

711
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes a big difference than to think about

712
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: the Will Anderson conversation. What should have been easy is

713
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: one the football character was outstanding. When we talked about

714
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: the work ethic, the leadership, what he displayed at Alabama,

715
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: you didn't look at the production. What is not to

716
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: like about what he displayed during his time with the

717
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: Crimson Tie but then back to back years, this dude

718
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: has been phenomenal and he really continues to challenge himself

719
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: to take it up a notch. And even though offensively

720
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: the Texans haven't been what we thought they would be,

721
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: defensively every bit as good as some of the top

722
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: teams in the league. To me, it's about them just

723
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: being on the same page because when they're locked in

724
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: on defense, Dimico ryans Man has a unit that can

725
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: pitch shut out and that is really going to be

726
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 1: key because as we think about the postseason and who

727
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: they may be lined up against him, how it may

728
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: play out matchups of everything, this defense gives them a

729
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: chance to win. And if CJ. Stroud can just find

730
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: some of what he displayed last year, yeah, this team

731
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: can be a tough out.

732
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: Boy.

733
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, there were there were definitely some Dolphins offensive lineman

734
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 5: who took some l's in this game. I mean it

735
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 5: was I mean, there's just no way around it. I mean,

736
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 5: like that group up front for the Texans just absolutely

737
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 5: gets after it. I Mean, Daniel Hunter was one of

738
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 5: the best free agent acquisitions of the offseason, and then

739
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 5: obviously Will Anderson just continuing to ascend, and we kind

740
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 5: of I mean, like it was, what was it the

741
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 5: year before that Will Anderson was drafted, we were talking

742
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 5: about him being the number one overall pick.

743
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, because he was that dang good.

744
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 5: And then you know we kind of had the that

745
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 5: first overall pick fatigue a little bit. You kind of

746
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 5: got like bored with Will Anderson just being really dang good,

747
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 5: and we're like, oh, maybe he shouldn't be the first

748
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 5: ed rusher off the board. Right, Well, let's remind ourselves

749
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 5: to not get bored with really good players, because that

750
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 5: was I mean, obviously the Texans didn't end up taking

751
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 5: him there at three, but when you look at what

752
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 5: he's doing in tandem with Daniel Hunter, and then you

753
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 5: know some of the stuff that they're getting from their

754
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 5: interior guys as well, like Tim Settle, Like how many

755
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: people thought that Tim Settle was going to be as

756
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 5: big of an acquisition as he's been. Tommy toky I

757
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 5: from Ohio State's getting in there and rotating in, you know,

758
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 5: on the interior along with Fullo Fatacasi. So like there

759
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 5: they have found you know, kind of similarly to what

760
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 5: we're talking about with the Bucks in the way that

761
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: they've found the pieces that fit. I mean, the Texans

762
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 5: upfront have certainly found the pieces that fit with Demko

763
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 5: Ryans wants to do on defense.

764
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been it's been fun to watch this whole

765
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: group come together. Stingley was another one who might have

766
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: a little fatigue with prospect fatigue.

767
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: That's right with what he was.

768
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: He got a couple of picks in that ballgame.

769
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 4: Uh Buck.

770
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: Kansas City Cleveland.

771
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: I'll give you kind of the cliff notes here with

772
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: you know, Kansas City having the offensive line issues, Joe

773
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: Tooney kicks out to left tackle Miles Garrett, still had

774
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: double digit pressures. They still battered Ma Holmes. They you know,

775
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: Cleveland couldn't do anything offensively. They turned the ball over

776
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: rezillion times. Kansas City's defense generated those turnovers. Give them

777
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: credit for that. They they have been very consistent for

778
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: whatever the offense issues have been throughout the year, the

779
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: defense has been there every week. But my point, I'll

780
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: get to you it looks like Mahomes mild high ankle

781
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: sprain kind of day to day week to week. You know,

782
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 3: they've got a couple of games. They've got a Saturday

783
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: game followed by a Christmas game on Wednesday, so they've

784
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: got kind of two quick ones coming up here, but

785
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 3: I don't know that they can afford to. You know,

786
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 3: if he's able to get out there, it's tough to

787
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: seen him because you're gonna lose home field the Buffalo

788
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: if you do. So they've got some decisions to make

789
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 3: there with Mahomes. But the point I'm getting at is

790
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 3: this shouldn't be surprising the way Mahomes has been getting

791
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: hit behind this offensive line, that this is the risk

792
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: that comes along with that.

793
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is the risk. They have been able to

794
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: like sufficiently protect them. And it was only amount of

795
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: time before he got banged around and I won't even

796
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: stay knocked out, but before he got banged around and

797
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: had an injury that potentially get thread in his availability

798
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: down the stretch in the various season.

799
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 6: He's what we do know.

800
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it like, oh, he's questionable, he may

801
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: not play. He's gonna play number fifteen if he takes

802
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 1: the ball.

803
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 6: Whenever he's able to do it. He would have went

804
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 6: back in the game if he had.

805
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: To on Sunday.

806
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 6: But this is what he does.

807
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: The thing that you got to do. I know that

808
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: you're playing musical chair it's not ideal this late in

809
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: the season to be shuffling the deck when it comes

810
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: to the offensive line, Andy Reid and that step. They

811
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: got to come up with answers. Who are the best

812
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: route they're going to put out there out there to

813
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: protect number fifteen. They need to figure that out quickly,

814
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: because I don't think you can keep playing musical chairs

815
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: as you're going to determine.

816
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 5: It does feel like it's the ankle injuries. I mean,

817
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 5: just continue to mount from our homes and you do

818
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 5: kind of want to yeah, all right, mild high ankle. Yeah,

819
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 5: but like, is there a is there a like a

820
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 5: recurring effect here that kind of limits, you know, just

821
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 5: how much better you can get in the framework a

822
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 5: couple of week to week rehabit recovery situation. I'm like you, Bucky,

823
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 5: I have no doubt that he'll be out there, but

824
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 5: you do start to wonder, like, you know, how much

825
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 5: how much can you expect of him when you have

826
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 5: needed all of him and more in an unusual year.

827
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 5: Well maybe it's not unusual, but in a year in

828
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 5: which they have been less than you know, what we

829
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 5: typically expect from the Chiefs on offense. So I don't

830
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 5: know on this one. I know, you know, Carson Wentz

831
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 5: will prove to be valuable if he's got to go.

832
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 5: Obviously came in and finished that game off. But I'm

833
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 5: not going to doubt Mahomes. I'm I'm just going to

834
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 5: be intrigued to see how it all works out, considering

835
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 5: how mobile he has had to be behind that offensive

836
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 5: line and how much that will continue with that group

837
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 5: being you know, a.

838
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 4: Little bit patchwork.

839
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 5: And I would imagine Joe Toney after going up against

840
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 5: Miles Garrett a couple of times, and this one, you know,

841
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 5: is probably going to be very comfortable moving back to guard.

842
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 4: Whenever that time comes.

843
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: You think, all right, we're gonna go rapid fire here

844
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 3: through these last few games.

845
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: Rhett Washington, New Orleans.

846
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 5: Uh.

847
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 3: One of those games that look kind of bad and ugly,

848
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you end up you look up

849
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: at the end of the game like, holy croud, this

850
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: ended up being a good game.

851
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 6: Yeah.

852
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think you credit Darren Rizzy. I mean,

853
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 5: the Saints are playing hard, and they're they're playing hard

854
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 5: down to stretch in a season that that likely has

855
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 5: no postseason birth on the on the back end, of it,

856
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 5: and you know, I think that's say something about how

857
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 5: they respect him. I will say that they certainly got

858
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 5: a boost at the end. The clock mistakenly stopped at

859
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 5: the end, allowing them the extra time to get down

860
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 5: their spike it and get that potential that touchdown that

861
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 5: would have allowed a tying extra point or a potential

862
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 5: go ahead two point conversion.

863
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 4: They opted for the two and didn't get it.

864
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: I was just very happy to see, uh, the old

865
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 5: fantasy stack of Jayden Daniels and Terry McLaurin showing up

866
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 5: for me in the fantasy postseason tween two?

867
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: Is that enough to get you the win?

868
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: Though?

869
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: Oh it is.

870
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 5: You better believe it. Yeah, you better believe I'm not

871
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 5: just I'm winning next competition.

872
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 3: Nicks Bo Nicks had three touchdowns for me on my

873
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: on my fantasy I had mccacke. That's fine. They still

874
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 3: scored a bunch of points. McConkie got in the end zone,

875
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: had a had a you know, solid day there.

876
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: Who was my BTJ BTJ block?

877
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 4: What did betj? M'd have been a good one for you.

878
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: I'd have been a good one for you.

879
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: He had a monster game. He had over a hundred yards.

880
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 6: He was doing his thing.

881
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: That don't count that roocky fantasy win just yet, all right,

882
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: buck Cincinnati Tennessee. Uh, Tennessee, no boy, no for them

883
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: as they uh bench Will Levis in that one. But Cincinnati,

884
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, they're they're uh, they're putting up some points. Man,

885
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: They're not dead yet.

886
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're end enough points. But Joe Burrow is frustrated.

887
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: Everyone knows the competitor that he is, the fact that

888
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 1: they having to put up all these points in defensively,

889
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: they're still having problems even the score down on their end,

890
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: particularly against a team like Tennessee that were struggling with

891
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: Will Levis. Joe burrows frustration continues to get the best

892
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: thing we saw in the interaction that he had with

893
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: Jack Taylor. Despite having the firefighter and the weapons that

894
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: they have offensive with Jamar Chase t. Higgins, guys that

895
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: can get down, guys that can spit out those hunt

896
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: of yard games like the ATM machine, they don't have

897
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: enough to win and to be a playoff participant because

898
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: their defense is lagging way behind. I understand the frustration

899
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow has because this might have cost him

900
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: an MVP run because the numbers are certainly MVP caliber

901
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: from Joe.

902
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: B Yeah, speaking of MVP, I think Joe Burrow belongs

903
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: in that conversation with Josh Allen with this guy right

904
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 3: here in Lamar Jackson who just continues to put up

905
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: big numbers. Five touchdowns for or fewer incompletions for the

906
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: third time in his career. So that's most NFL history

907
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: if you're wondering. That's a good saucy nug for you.

908
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: The Ravens nine and five, and all of a sudden,

909
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: now you've got the Ravens and the Steelers in a

910
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: little bit of a dog fight here for this division

911
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 3: there in the AFC North, the Giants two and twelve.

912
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: Their quarterback for twenty five is not on their roster. Now,

913
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of can they show a little

914
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: bit of life to show that you've got some competitive fight.

915
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 3: But then let's also not won a ball game and

916
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: jeopardize our draft stock. So that's that's the challenge there

917
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: for the New York Giants. But look up, and all

918
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 3: of a sudden, the Baltimore Ravens are starting to hit

919
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: their stride a little bit, and they are built for

920
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: this time of the year, and Lamar Jackson is playing

921
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: at a very, very high level. And we've got a

922
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: two for tonight here, Buck, starting with Chicago and Minnesota.

923
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 3: What are you looking forward to in this one?

924
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking forward to seeing the Minnesota Vikings and

925
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: if Sam Donald can continue to do the wonderful stuff

926
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: to he've done under the direction.

927
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 6: Of Kevin O'Connell.

928
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: Dam Jonah has been outstanding this season.

929
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 6: For the Minnesota Vikings to the.

930
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: Point where you're like, well, maybe they should keep him.

931
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: I know JJ McCarthy's ready at waiting, but let's see

932
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: if we can keep this thing going. When I look

933
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: at Jordan Adathson and Justin Jefferson, TJ. Hockinson returning to

934
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: form Aaron Jones behind him, there are a lot of

935
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: things that are really working for the Vikings, but Sam

936
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: Donald is the x act for this team.

937
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 6: As they get down the.

938
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: Stretch, they're angling an inching close in towards toppling the

939
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I want to see if they can take

940
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: care of business against Chicago Bears and Sam Donald be

941
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: the special player that he's been this season.

942
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one.

943
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 5: I'm looking for competency from the Bears, which which we

944
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 5: haven't haven't seen in the last few weeks, but which

945
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 5: I guess sets the bar fairly low. But for the Vikings,

946
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 5: I mean, the more like we go forward on this thing,

947
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 5: the more this feels like the forty nine Ers from

948
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago. Right, You've got you've got

949
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 5: a top pick rookie quarterback and you know you haven't

950
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 5: really seen him yet. And now you've got this this

951
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 5: guy that maybe you didn't count on taking the league

952
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 5: by storm. Obviously, you know Darnold is in a little

953
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 5: bit of different situation in terms of acquisition compared to

954
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 5: brock Party, But dang, they're playing so good it makes

955
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 5: you feel like, why why mess with a good thing?

956
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 4: Here?

957
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 5: I think this will be a really interesting decision for

958
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 5: the Vikings as we move forward here.

959
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to watching the Bears and seeing if

960
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: we can see more the second half San Francisco Caleb

961
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: Williams and company, then the first half drought that we

962
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: saw with that offense, and I want to see I

963
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: want to see one two run.

964
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: That's what I'm keeping an eye on this game. One

965
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: two run. One's not there. I'm and two's not there.

966
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: I'm running.

967
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 3: I'm not hanging in the pocket if I'm Caleb Williams

968
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 3: and waiting for number three, because number three is gonna

969
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: result and you getting a hand up after you've been

970
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: peeled off the ground by this Minnesota Vikings front. So

971
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: I want to see can they operate a little bit

972
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: quicker with your decision making there? Caleb in that offense

973
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: there with the Bears, Rhett Atlanta and Vegas.

974
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

975
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 4: My powers.

976
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: Is on your Is he on your team? Is he

977
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: on your rookie team this week?

978
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 5: I don't know that he's on my rookie team this week.

979
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 5: I just like, that's that's what I want to watch

980
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 5: in this game. And and that's that's, uh, you know,

981
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: like what else do you want to look for? I mean,

982
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 5: like this is if you, certainly, if you're a Raiders fan,

983
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 5: like this is. That's that's the price of admission for

984
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 5: you is going to see Rock Bauers play. Because he

985
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 5: is an absolute star in this league already and they

986
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 5: just got to keep finding more ways to get him

987
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: the football. And I know, obviously the quarterback situation has

988
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 5: definitely been less than ideal this year. They are one

989
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 5: of those teams where the quarterback is not on their

990
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 5: roster either, and they'll be fighting with the Giants. So

991
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 5: that number one overall pick down the stretch here look

992
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 5: for the Falcons. It's getting late, right, It's time to

993
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 5: make your stand, and you know, Kirk Cousins has got

994
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 5: to figure it out or it is literally going to

995
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: be too late with the way that the Buccaneers are playing.

996
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: Teach Well, I'm just looking at the first thing I

997
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: looked at, Buck, was where is this game at? Because

998
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: if it's at Atlanta and Kirk Cousins is turning the

999
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: ball over and not playing well, now this becomes a

1000
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: major national talking point when you can have some bose

1001
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: and the calls for Michael Pennix. The fact that this

1002
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 3: is at the Raiders and they're having a down year.

1003
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: I don't anticipate it'll probably be a full house at

1004
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: that ball game, but the conversation still will take place

1005
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: if Kirk doesn't play better.

1006
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: Buck, Yeah, Kirk is on the clock, Like you have

1007
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: to play better. There are people that are calling for

1008
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: Michael Pennis to get the ball and earned the ball

1009
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: over to the level that Kirk Cousins has turned it over.

1010
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, your job is in jeopardy.

1011
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: I want to see how he bounces back, I responded,

1012
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: And can he make the game easy for himself by

1013
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: making sure that Jean Robinson and Til those years touched

1014
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: the ball enough that now you can create those easy

1015
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: opportunities on the parameter, big game for Kirk.

1016
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 6: Cousins, a lot on the line.

1017
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: He needs to step up and for going well. Well.

1018
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 3: The other side of this is, uh, you know, we

1019
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: don't use the T word when we're talking about these

1020
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: teams that are not having good years. But if you're

1021
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 3: a Raiders fan, I don't know which team you're rooting

1022
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: for tonight. I don't I think I know which one

1023
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: you should probably be rooting for. But that's taboo, so

1024
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: you know, we'll see it's it's a lot on the

1025
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 3: line in terms of the draft order and the positioning

1026
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: with so many teams so closely in the standings there

1027
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: as we march towards the spring and and really the

1028
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 3: season of hope for a team like the Raiders who

1029
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: need it in a big, big way. All right, that's

1030
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: going to do it for us. Today covered a lot

1031
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 3: of ground. We've got a lot to get to this week,

1032
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: including Retz Hoosiers. All right, Bucky and I gonna pick

1033
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: him to win. You have to stay tuned this week.

1034
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 3: We'll we'll research right here on Move the sticks.

1035
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 6: M hm

1036
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 5: Hm