1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: I never once had a sore elbow. My shoulder would 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: hurt often, but my elbow never bothered me. But is 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: that because I never worked out my upper body. I 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Here we go. We're in Cincinnati. 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 3: Let's go on one sleep, as Kratz says, crats one sleep. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 4: Well this it's all days. 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 5: You guys are on the field. Dudes are gonna be 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 5: hitting some VP there. 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 6: Tomorrow, amazing crafts. It's ft. 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: You got Todd Fraser and Danny Graves. We're on the 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: field at Great American Ballpark. Will be here the next 13 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: few days. Let's show the graphic too, so we can 14 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 3: tell everyone what to expect the next few days. So 15 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: we're on today obviously eleven to one Eastern time inside 16 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: the park. It's kind of that weird hot cold situation 17 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: right now on the field. 18 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 6: We'll talk about that in a second. 19 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 3: Then we're at Nation Kitchen and Bar at the Bank, 20 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: so right next to the ballpark eleven to one for 21 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: opening day on Thursday, and then Friday one to three eastern. 22 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: We'll be back there for a little lunch and hang 23 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: So if you want to stop by and say. 24 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 6: Hello and watch the show, go for it right, isn't 25 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 6: it that weird? Hot and cold? Right now? 26 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 3: The sun hits and then you're like, okay, this is nice, 27 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: and then it goes away and you're like, okay, it's 28 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: a tundraddan. 29 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 7: You know, this is like the in between. You go 30 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 7: out and play. You go out with long sleeves and 31 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 7: you're like, ah, what do I do here? I'm kind 32 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 7: of warm, I'm kind of not and then ten minutes 33 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 7: later you get colder. 34 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: For you pictures, it was okay, you just wear the 35 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: big bomber jacket. You were good. I stole your jackets. 36 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 37 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: Hey man, we're sissy's. 38 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: We're cold. 39 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: We need to be warm. But if I had pipes 40 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: like Scottie Braun, I'd be shorts leaving it all day long. 41 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 6: I'm trying. 42 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: I was back and forth, okay, but yeah, I got 43 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 3: I got a pretty almond shirt today. This is actually 44 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: the last time you're allowed to wear this because it's 45 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: spring training shirt. Training is technically over, but Lamar starts 46 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: this season. So anyway, we'll get to that a little 47 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: bit later on. We got a lot to hit. There 48 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: was a lot of news the last twenty four hours. 49 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: Guys that made the teams guys that got cut and 50 00:01:52,600 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: extension season is still on, so let's charge out Cal Riley. Baby, 51 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: he's gonna be a Mariner for a while. They bought 52 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: out some free agent years. So the contract for the Mariners, 53 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna call him superstar Catcher. Yeah, six years, one 54 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: hundred five million bucks. It buys out the first three 55 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: years of free agency. There's a full note trade clause 56 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: in there, and he was already booked for about five 57 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: million bucks this season, so it's about ninety called one 58 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 3: hundred million dollars al most of new money that comes 59 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: his way. You can kind of look at like JT 60 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: real Muto's contract, which is one fifteen, although that was 61 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: over five years, not six. But if you're looking past 62 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: this season, and also JT got the free agency, Cal didn't. 63 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 6: But seems like both sides should be happy about this. 64 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 7: Most definitely, and I know Crazy smiling, even though he's 65 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 7: not smiling right now. Another catcher gets bank. I honestly 66 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 7: didn't see it. Compan I didn't even know there was 67 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 7: talks going on here. I mean, I felt like it 68 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 7: was kind of undercover, which is the best part of 69 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 7: it because listen, you don't want stuff getting now somebody 70 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 7: leaking something next thing, you know, it makes bad taste 71 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 7: for somebody, But yes, this is well deserve. The guy's 72 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 7: an absolute stud. 73 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: You know. 74 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 7: I got to saw him play against the Yankees. You 75 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 7: get to see how all these guys have come together 76 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 7: and understood, like, listen, this is one of our leaders. 77 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 7: This is one of our guys that is really good, 78 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 7: knows the game of baseball, and he has a staff 79 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 7: that is absolutely incredible. 80 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is great for both sides. And 81 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: like you mentioned that, I don't know if this was 82 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: really talked about much. This kind of came out of nowhere. 83 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, he's got one hundred million dollar contract. 84 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: I think it's great for the Mariners right now because 85 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto looks better to the fan base after not 86 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: doing a whole lot during the offseason, and now they 87 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: go and sign a franchise player, but ten million dollars 88 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: signing bonus. His salary this year, guys is one million dollars. 89 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: How good does that look for Jerry Depoto? 90 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: I mean, does the bonus get paid out in year 91 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: one or it goes through? 92 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 6: I think it's right away, right, I'm sure it. 93 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: Might be around Christmas time, dude. 94 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 6: If I'm so, it'll come back. 95 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: Yah, yeah, I want to signing bonus when I signed, right. 96 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what happened with me when I have 97 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: signing bonus. 98 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 7: You got it at the end, but you know it 99 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 7: is what You're gonna get it eventually. 100 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, okay, yeah. 101 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 5: I mean, this dude is like, he's one of the 102 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: most prolific hitting catchers in the game right now, power wise, 103 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 5: especially in that place. 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We're gonna see him playing 138 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 7: for a long time in Seattle, and it's it's really good. 139 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: Like you said Jerry to put I didn't even think 140 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: about that. 141 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 7: You know, everybody, Jerry, you know he's not a guy 142 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,559 Speaker 7: that's gonna really do much, and you know, doing something 143 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 7: like this is really big for Seattle. 144 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: Especially after some comments he made durned off season. Now 145 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: he's got to win the fans back, and I think 146 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: this is going in the right direction. 147 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 6: You want a Platinum Glove. 148 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: Last year, thirty four homers, and the plate discipline is 149 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: improving too, so career high on base percentage, career high walks. 150 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: Here's a big one too. He led Danny and catcher innings, 151 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: so he is the workhorse catcher, which obviously is a 152 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: taxing position. 153 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: I think he loved that as a pitcher, and Cratsy 154 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: working with pictures his whole career, would would probably agree, like, 155 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: there's certain guys that you just you want behind the 156 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: plate when it's crunch time, right. You want guys that 157 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: know the game. You want guys that know the scattering 158 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: report and know how to call a game and know 159 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: how to handle the pitching staff. And cal Rawley is 160 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: that guy. And then of course the thirty home runs 161 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: a year that he hits it is a pretty good 162 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: addition to. 163 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 5: The way that he talks in the media, the way 164 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 5: that he interacts with his teammates, the way that this 165 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 5: pitching staff is elite, Like we're not talking elite compared 166 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 5: to the rest of the Major League Baseball, We're talking 167 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 5: elite like in history. 168 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: This dude, can we get a C? Can we get 169 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: a C on his chest? Ever done that? I don't know. 170 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 5: He just has that, as the kids say, he has 171 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 5: that aura about him because he's not afraid to say 172 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 5: the things at the end of the season, like oh, hey, 173 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 5: look at that team over there who just knocked us 174 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 5: out of playoffs by one game. They went out and 175 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 5: got dudes. So he's got he's got a direct line 176 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 5: to ownership. Well maybe not ownership, I guess ownership now 177 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 5: because he got that big he got the big extension, 178 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 5: but he's got a direct line to like, hey, when 179 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 5: Cal says something, we listen. 180 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: And that's it. He's the man. 181 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 6: Yep, he is. 182 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: He is, so same service time Ky gets double the money. 183 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: That kind of plays to what you were talking about, Krafts. 184 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: Kyle Riley is a much much better, more accomplished player 185 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: right now than Aleandro Kirk, so the money makes sense 186 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: for him. But Ken said, how often are you seeing 187 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: players like Riley get the free agency. I mean, j 188 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: t row Muto is the last what superstar catcher that 189 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: I can think of who had consistent production like that 190 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: to get the free agency. Teams lock up their catchers, right. 191 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 5: They do, and maybe it's catcher's fault. Maybe they should 192 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 5: go to free agency more. But look at the value 193 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: that a catchers bring, especially now with the framing and 194 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 5: all those metrics. There's some people who can argue that 195 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 5: these framing metrics make them more valuable than some of 196 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 5: the MVPs every year. I don't agree that it's that valuable, 197 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 5: but they're like, hey, this has cost certainty. And as 198 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 5: a catcher, there's no other position besides pitcher that you 199 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 5: have a risk of a career ending type of injury. 200 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 4: You blow out one of your. 201 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 5: Knees, you just might not be the same You're hitting 202 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 5: is always going to kind of decline as the sea 203 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 5: and goes on. So when they start throwing money at you, 204 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 5: it's tough to say, you know what, I'll wait till 205 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 5: free agency. 206 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: Cal is a long way away from free agency. 207 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: It's a cool story. 208 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: Cam Smith drafted last year fourteenth overall by the Chicago 209 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: Cubs moved three levels last year. I mean, you only 210 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: played thirty four games in the minor leagues or thirty two. Sorry, 211 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: I gave him two extra games. Thirty two games in 212 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: the minor leagues last year, hit three thirteen, three, ninety 213 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: six on base six and nine slug that's pretty good. 214 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: Then in spring training, I get it. It's fifteen games, 215 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: three forty two, four, nineteen seven to eleven slash line, 216 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: and they're like, enough enough, we're getting up. 217 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 6: To the show. 218 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: Especially when it's Houston and their outfield didn't look great 219 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: on paper in the offseason, and Danny, all of a sudden, 220 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: you got Al Twovey in one corner, You've got Cam 221 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: Smith in another corner. Things are looking up for them 222 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: with that outfield. Camp Smith could be an AL Rookie 223 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: of the Year. 224 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: Listen, I've watched Cal Smith all year last year Florida 225 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: State camp Smith, I mean Camp Smith, sorry, and as 226 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: a third baseman, and that was really the only hole 227 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: that anybody saw his defense. He's got a cannon for 228 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: an arm, but his defense at third, Todd you can 229 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: attest to this, like it's not easy playing the hot corner, 230 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: but the dude can rake man. He doesn't strike out, 231 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: he walks a lot, gets on base. You put him 232 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: in right field where he's not having to worry about 233 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: the hot corner. This dude's gonna hit some a ton 234 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: of bombzillas in that ballpark. 235 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think the biggest thing is finding that 236 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 7: one spot for him. And I remember coming up they 237 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 7: call the super utility guys. They're trying to find a spot. 238 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 7: You put him in left, you put him in right, third, 239 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 7: you know, bounce around, but that plays with your psyche 240 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 7: a little bit. Put him in one spot, let him prosper, 241 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 7: and he's going to absolutely dominate this year. 242 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: And what a field. 243 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 7: Good story man, you know, well the I think the 244 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 7: Astros did a really good job with the whole bringing 245 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 7: the family in and that kind of stuff. I think 246 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 7: that stuff is what baseball needs, Scotty. You talk about 247 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 7: this all the time. We need to revolve a little 248 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 7: bit more and you know, keep up with the Jones 249 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 7: a little little bit with baseball and to get out 250 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 7: there a little more. And I think they did a 251 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 7: really really good job. 252 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 5: Easy for me to tear up, but watching them call 253 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 5: his family in, I've never seen that before. The clubhouse 254 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 5: is a sacred place, and the way that they did it, 255 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 5: I absolutely loved it, Like that was so pro. He 256 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 5: was just like, I mean, he was ball and balling 257 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 5: when he saw his parents coming in there. But to 258 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 5: me when we were in camp, when we were in 259 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 5: camp talking to Joe, he didn't he didn't just say, WHOA, 260 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 5: this dude's raking. He was just like, this guy's this 261 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 5: guy's the real deal, Like this is this isn't like 262 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 5: we're not like we're not joking around. Like this guy's 263 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 5: makeup is unbelievable. This guy has parents who did the 264 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 5: right thing. And like you saw it in that moment, 265 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 5: like you saw how much family means to him. 266 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 4: But you also see a team that's aspiring to get 267 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: back to the World Series. 268 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 5: They're not just you know, if this is a cool 269 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 5: Arlyn's story, Hey we got to justify the trade of 270 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 5: one of our superstars. 271 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, cool story. 272 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 5: They want to win, They want to win, and this 273 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 5: dude's gonna get a lot of AB's. 274 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 6: Super athlete too. 275 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: I always like to bring this up with Dana Brown, 276 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 3: who's running the Astros front office now. 277 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 6: He was on FT a couple of weeks ago. 278 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 3: If you want to look back at one of those 279 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: episodes when we were at Astros camp. He is a 280 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: scouting extraordinary. He did insane work for the Braves, including 281 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: being the guy for example, with Michael Harris the second 282 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: they were like, this is the guy, we have to 283 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: draft him, trust me, Lock, And there's many others I 284 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: don't have him at the top of my head that 285 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: he was leading the charge for as a scout with Atlanta. 286 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: Comes over to Houston and this is a big deal 287 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: trade for them. You're trading Kyle Tucker and you're trying 288 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: to be a contender. 289 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 6: You have to hit. 290 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: Not only do they get cam Smith and he becomes 291 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: their top prospect, he's up with the team right away, 292 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: so you have thesat parades to start the year for them. 293 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: Hayden was Neesky obviously part of that trade as well 294 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: for some pitching depth. But then I mean some people 295 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: were doing I saw a poll on on social media 296 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: take you know war for a lack of a better 297 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 3: stat of parates Camp Smith and Hayden Mseneski versus Kyle Tucker. 298 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 3: They're like, I know it's three players versus one, but 299 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: they're like, the Astros might have replaced the overall production 300 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: there with that group. If Cam Smith is a star 301 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 3: from day one, which is certainly possible. And I bring 302 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: up Dana Brown also because you saw him more than 303 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: probably any of us did. He said, he's a super 304 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: athlete at third base, Like you said, when you're learning, 305 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: it can take some time. He goes, you get to 306 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: just unleash the athleticism a little bit more in the outfield. 307 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna see stuff from Cam Smith that I 308 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: don't think anybody has really seen because of the athlete 309 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: that he is. And he's such a great kid. I 310 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: call him a kid. He's an adult obviously, but like 311 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: he's so willing to learn and so willing to get 312 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: better even though he's such a good hitter already, and 313 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: there's a lot to learn in the big leagues again 314 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: of adjusting to pitchers. But this dude, he's got it 315 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: all man. And I love the fact that the astros 316 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: aren't waiting to bring this kid up to perform up here. 317 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 6: He's ready to go. 318 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: Now. 319 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 5: I'm brought back to another first round pick, third baseman, 320 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 5: college star left handed hitter ended up being a Platinum 321 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 5: Glove left fielder Alex Gordon. Think about it, if he hadn't, 322 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 5: if he had broken in as an outfielder, he would 323 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 5: have had a few years jump and wouldn't have had 324 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 5: to make those adjustments trying him out a third. Now 325 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 5: it didn't work. Put an athlete in the outfield. To me, 326 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 5: you could probably always go back to third. But now 327 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 5: go run around out there, catch some balls for the boys. 328 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if he does star, if he wins Rookie 329 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: of the Year, what is it first or second place? 330 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: I think it is, then they would get a first 331 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: round pick. So that would be awesome for Houston obviously 332 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: because they were hit too exactly with some losses. When 333 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: they had the cheating scandal, they lost a few picks 334 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: from that. If you want to learn more about this, 335 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: we have an ASTRO show. It's called Crush City Territory. 336 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: Chandler Rome, Tyler Stafford, Josh Reddick can talk outfields. Astro's 337 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: Outfield go over the uniqueness of that ballpark. So make 338 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: sure you check it out. They already have an episode 339 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: up on cam Smith that they put together last night, 340 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: the twenty two year old getting the start on opening 341 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: Day against the Mets. 342 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 6: Astros are taken on the Mets on opening Day. 343 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 8: Hair Thinning is very common, very frustrating problem that many 344 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 8: men deal with. 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Here's how quickly the game can change. 363 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: Evan Carter was a star in the postseason a couple 364 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: of years ago. Last year heard a lot of the year. 365 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: They're worried about some chronic issues. 366 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: Right. 367 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 6: I got to look up what it is. I think 368 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 6: it's the back. Is it the back crats? 369 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's back. 370 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: So and he's not on the opening day rosters, so 371 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: they optioned him to start the year. You didn't hit 372 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: much in spring training, obviously, every you know, sample sizes 373 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,359 Speaker 3: small for spring training one fifty four four, nineteen ops. 374 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: But it's just crazy when we saw how unstoppable he was. 375 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he was an on base monster for the 376 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: Rangers and the huge part of why they won the 377 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: World Series a couple of years ago. 378 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,119 Speaker 6: And you know, he hasn't been the same since. 379 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: He's still twenty two. 380 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 5: Let's just make sure Rangers fan understand that winning a 381 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 5: World Series mattered because they had Evan Carter there and 382 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 5: he only got called up in September. You need depth. 383 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 5: It's okay to let this back issue. Hopefully it isn't chronic. 384 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 5: I watched an interview last year and he was very 385 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 5: frustrated that he was missing the season, but he seemed 386 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 5: just more like uncertain about what the injury is. He's 387 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 5: not starting on the il. To me, that's a good sign. 388 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 5: It's also a good sign that he's gonna be able 389 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 5: to go get at bats. See what kind of recovery 390 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 5: he needs. Hey, can I play three days in a row? 391 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 5: Can I play five days in a row? He's twenty 392 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 5: two years old. If you're up in the big leagues, 393 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 5: you need to be playing every day. And to me, 394 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 5: I don't think he's a player that you're gonna see 395 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 5: this huge like, oh he did unbelievable. Now it's a 396 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 5: bust because of his z own discipline. Plate discipline of 397 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 5: a veteran hitter is awesome. His dude's twenty. He was 398 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 5: twenty years old and he had plate disciplined. So well, 399 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 5: give it some time. It's okay. It'll allow some of 400 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 5: the other guys to get their abs. And when he's healthy, 401 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 5: when he knows he can go back to back to 402 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 5: back to back days, then when he's raking, you. 403 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 4: Bring him up. 404 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 7: And I think he said it, well, I mean, you 405 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 7: touch on every single one of those how's your body 406 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 7: gonna adapt to playing more. You gotta understand back. I've 407 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 7: had back issues. It's no joke. I mean those backspasms. 408 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 7: Whatever he has speculation, but when you do have a 409 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 7: back problem, you need time to rest. And that's the 410 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 7: worst part. You can't lift, you can't really do anything. 411 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 7: It's a lot of hot and cold water, you know, 412 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 7: trying to get the blood flow back in there. But 413 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 7: for him, I wouldn't take this as a detriment. I 414 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 7: would say, you know what, let me get back on 415 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 7: my feet, let me go dominate and triple A and 416 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 7: then I'll come back and be the Evan card of old. 417 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 7: Let me just get my back right, get it to 418 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 7: a position where I can get into a routine where 419 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 7: I know I got to get to the ballpark at 420 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 7: one o'clock or twelve thirty, whatever it is. This is 421 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 7: your job and you've got to find that. And if not, 422 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 7: you're gonna get pushed out of here quicker than you think. 423 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Cratty made a great point. He's only twenty two. 424 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about how young he was. This 425 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: kid's still developing into trying to be a great major 426 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: league baseball player. And yes, he had the great twenty 427 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: twenty three. But there's a lot of guys that don't 428 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: even get a sniff when they're twenty two, and you know, 429 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: hasn't had that much triple a time. Let him get 430 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: some att bats, let him get healthy, figure out his body. 431 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: When he's ready, he's gonna come up and do what 432 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: he did before. 433 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: I will say this, I mean, if he gets himself 434 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: in a good spot physically again, the mental component is there. 435 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: I mean, he is a freaking savant with balls and 436 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 3: strikes at a young age. You know he knows his 437 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: zone since he came up to the show. We saw 438 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: that right away from him. So hopefully he gets himself 439 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: right and gets up to the Rangers, which should be 440 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: a really competitive team this year. A lot of people 441 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: have them as like a sexy pick to when the Division, 442 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 3: if not even. 443 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 6: Gets to the World Series. 444 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: All right, up next, baraldis Chapman officially named the closer 445 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: for the Red Sox. We saw coming and for me, 446 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: this is the one part of the team that you 447 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 3: still have some question marks with because the rotation certainly 448 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: got fixed up, and the position player group already was 449 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: pretty good last year. 450 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 6: They could hit. The defense should be decent too, and. 451 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 3: Especially better now with Alex Braikman over at third base, 452 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 3: so and the bullpen hold up. And of course, Chapman 453 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: said he's looking forward to closing a game at Yankee 454 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 3: Stadium when he's with the Red Sox because he's an 455 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 3: adrenaline junk. 456 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: Oh, without a doubt. 457 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 7: And I feel like watching a roll this from when 458 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 7: he played here. When I play with him here, I 459 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 7: feel like he's got. 460 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: Bigger and stronger each year. 461 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 7: He's like a fine wine man, and I know he'll 462 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 7: sip on his wine here and there. But this guy 463 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 7: is an absolute legend. He's an absolute stud. His numbers 464 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 7: just cute, absolutely rising and rising. I mean, dare I say, 465 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 7: one of the better closers to ever play in this game. 466 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 7: I mean, to be honest with you, he's been absolutely 467 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 7: doing it. From a guy in Louisville TRIPLEA where I 468 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 7: used to tell him after the games, the games aren't 469 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 7: supposed to be this long. We have to pick it up. 470 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 7: We start laughing, and the next thing you know, he's 471 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 7: a closer. This guy's been putting up his whole career. 472 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 7: I think it's year fourteen or fifteen coming up on 473 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 7: Watch Out Man. This this is gonna be a fun 474 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 7: year for him. 475 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: It's it's crazy because when he first came up and 476 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: he's thrown one hundred and four miles an hour, who 477 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: would have thought that he'd still be pitching with this 478 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: kind of velocity in the fourteenth or fifteenth year in 479 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: the big leagues. It's it's awesome to see, but it 480 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of and I'm not saying he's 481 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: Lebron James, but Lebron keeps getting bigger and stronger as 482 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: he gets older too, and eround us. He's scary, like 483 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: he's a big dude man, Like see that guy coming 484 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: in from the bullpen. 485 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: Some pictures are worried about how they lift weights, and 486 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: he just doesn't care. 487 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 7: The house all right, and he's the analytical stuff and like, oh, 488 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 7: you're supposed to do this. No, No, he lives by 489 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 7: his means. He lives by what he's gotten there. He's 490 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 7: his dad taught him how to box at a young age. 491 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 7: He taught him how to lift weights at a young age. 492 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 7: And guess what it works out for a lot of it. 493 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 7: Bronson Royal used to you see the videos of him 494 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 7: doing cleans at like age eight nine, ten years old. 495 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 7: You know, not every everything is what it's made out 496 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 7: to be. And for him, he looks stronger, he looks 497 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 7: physically fit, and he's ready to go. 498 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: This Boston Red SoC team is going to be a 499 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: team to be feared. 500 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 5: Some of the people don't realize because he came up 501 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 5: and he was gunslinging one hundred and five whatever. He 502 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: hit one hundred and five point three than one hundred 503 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 5: and five point whatever. They don't he's not necessarily just 504 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 5: a gunslinger. He can actually throw the ball where he 505 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 5: wants to. Does he get bounts of walks, absolutely, but 506 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 5: he knows what he needs, like Todd said, and what 507 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 5: he needs is to be a monster in the weight room. 508 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 5: I've never seen I've never seen a pitcher military press 509 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 5: ninety fives, just like it's his job. Like this man's 510 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 5: out at the gym post game, and I'm not talking 511 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 5: to the field gym. He's going to like Planet Fitness 512 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 5: anytime Fitness Genesis down the road with his crew and 513 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 5: he's just he lives. He lives a different life. And 514 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 5: the way you know, he still has more in the tank. 515 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 5: Last year when Ben Joyce hit like one hundred and four, 516 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 5: I think this was the same day saw it and 517 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 5: was like, I still got that in the tank. But 518 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 5: he's not every every day. He's not gonna do it. 519 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 5: He's not just gonna go out there and throw. He 520 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 5: knows what his body needs, needs to how he needs 521 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 5: to use his body, and he's evolved. 522 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 6: He's a changed man. 523 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: I mean, he's still the high strikeout and high walk. 524 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 3: You gotta be careful there, guy, But I mean he 525 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: mostly used to be a two pitch pitcher. So last 526 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 3: year he threw four pitches more than ten percent of 527 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 3: the time. He's got the four seemer, the sinker, the slider, 528 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 3: and the splitter. 529 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 6: Now that's fortunate, and it's filthy too. 530 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 7: You see one hundred coming at you, and you see 531 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 7: this split change coming at you looks like one hundred 532 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 7: year swing and you're missing it by like that mark. 533 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 7: So uh, I think Danny needed that split change back 534 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 7: in the day. 535 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'd still be pitching right now and 536 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm fifty one years older. 537 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: You needed to split splinker, kick change. But he had 538 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: a good year. 539 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 6: Chapman. Last year we're going on ERA plus one hundred 540 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 6: league average. He was one eleven. 541 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 3: Because you know, the year before I mean, I think 542 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 3: some people were like, hey, is he going to be 543 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: done soon with Texas? 544 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 6: Let's see just what was he at. 545 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: I believe he was three seven to two with Texas 546 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: after a two four five era with Kansas City and 547 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: era hanging in the same range last year with Pittsburgh 548 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: and spent the whole season there. I thought he was 549 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: gonna get traded at the deadline. Pittsburgh was like, now 550 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: we're gonna kind of try. So he stayed there, but 551 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: he's gonna he's gonna get in an adrenaline boost. I 552 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: think here too, Kratz with Boston because he's gonna be 553 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: involved with a team that's probably going to be more 554 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: competitive than Pittsburgh, and I feel like he feeds off. 555 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 4: That and he's going to be used. 556 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 5: Like I said yesterday talking about closers, closers are not abused. 557 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 5: Closers are used. There's a difference that seventh eighth inning 558 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 5: guy might warm up in the sixth might warm up 559 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 5: in the eighth in case, you know, something else happens, 560 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 5: like you're getting Can I say dry humped on here? 561 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: But I did so, Yeah, that's what they call it. 562 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 4: That's what they call it. 563 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 2: And say it. 564 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 5: That's that's not happening. That's not happening to That hasn't 565 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 5: happened to him his entire career. So to me, I 566 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 5: think that's genius by Kora knowing, Hey, you know what, 567 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 5: I got another closer down there. Liam Hendricks too. He's 568 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 5: gonna have to wear it, but he'll probably be the 569 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 5: eighth inning guy and just throw Rodas out there in 570 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 5: the in the role he's been his entire career. And 571 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 5: he's gonna love pitching a Yankee stadium against the Yankees 572 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 5: because he loved it pitching a Yankee stadium against the 573 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 5: Red Sox. 574 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 6: It is hump day, so you're good. Yeah, it's a thing. 575 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: It's a thing. 576 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 6: He's not lying, all right. 577 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: Lastly, there were a ton of moves made by the Angels, 578 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 3: so let's go over one good one. Nikki Lopez has 579 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: a locker in the Angels clubhouse, so uh, he's on 580 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 3: the team, and then they pick him up because they 581 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: Kahata does not have a locker. 582 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 6: There's Sam Blum going over some of the news. Here's 583 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 6: a couple more. 584 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: Mickey Moniak was cut former number one overall pick Kratz 585 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: Phillies picked them back when they were going through their rebuild, 586 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: and he actually, this is what's interesting where our show 587 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 3: gets into it. He took the Angels to arbitration, right, 588 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 3: they didn't come up with a number. They wanted one 589 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 3: and a half mill for him. He said two. They 590 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: go to arbitration. He wins the case, but doesn't make 591 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: the team, didn't hit well in spring training, didn't have 592 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 3: a great year last year. 593 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: Defensive metrics don't like him. 594 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: He was a slightly a negative win player, which I'm 595 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: sure arbitration doesn't care about because the arbitration judges don't 596 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 3: know baseball, but they cut him, and because he won 597 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 3: an arbitration and didn't settle before arbitration, instead of getting 598 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: say the one and a half or a little bit more, 599 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: the two million dollars gets cut down to about three 600 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty three grands. So it just shows for 601 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: some players why they end up not going to arbitration, 602 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 3: because just in case you don't have a good camp 603 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: and you're kind of a you know, lower end maybe 604 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: bench player for a team, they could cut you and 605 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 3: not really have much of a consequence. I mean, three 606 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: hundred grand is nothing for a big league team. So anyway, 607 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: what do you think about the way that that. 608 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 4: Sorry, I gotta, I gotta. 609 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 5: That's no and no, no contract under five years of 610 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 5: service is guaranteed arbitration pre ORB anything like that. They're 611 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 5: not guaranteed, even if he would have even if he 612 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 5: would have agreed before go into an arbitration process, you 613 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 5: need five years of service to have it guaranteed. So 614 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 5: him getting part part of it guaranteed is actually a 615 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 5: boon for him. 616 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: Oh so it doesn't matter if your arbor pre orb. 617 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 3: I must have understood that wrong. 618 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 5: Five years are under And the only reason I know 619 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 5: that is because I went through the same thing. I 620 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 5: had four years and like, I was thirteen days short 621 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 5: of five years, and they were gonna cut me at 622 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 5: the end of spring training, and I was like, well, 623 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 5: don't because that would suck. And they ended up trading 624 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 5: me and so I got my I got my contract 625 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 5: because I was on another team, But had they cut me, 626 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 5: I would have only gotten it, says a third. I 627 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 5: think it's like, I think it's considered ninety days of 628 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 5: your of your salary, so it's not fully guaranteed, but 629 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 5: there is a guaranteed. 630 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: Portion of it. 631 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: No, this isn't totally adding up. So let's say you're 632 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: you know, Julio Rodriguez and you signed a couple of 633 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 3: years in. I mean that everything that he just signed 634 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: is guaranteed. So what do you what do you mean 635 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: he signed? 636 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 5: He signed a big league contract. An arbitration contract is 637 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 5: not fully guaranteed until after five years of service. 638 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 6: If you get to ARB. 639 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: If it's pre ARB and you settle on a contract 640 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: like an extension, I think it's guaranteed. 641 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 6: All right, we'll look it up. 642 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: We could, we could defend it. Text. 643 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna text the first over. Yeah, yes, stay out 644 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: of this fight. We talk every day, so we're allowed 645 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: to do this. Brian Johnson has made the Angels opening 646 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: day roster. He was picked last year out a Dallas 647 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: Baptist didn't throw in the minors last year. He's twenty 648 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: two years old, seventy fourth overall pick the comp pick 649 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: for them losing Otani, and they're like right up to 650 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: the biggs, which the Angels do every year. 651 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 6: Right. 652 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: They don't really believe in the school system of minor leagues. 653 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: If you're good enough, they're like right up to the chef, 654 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: right up. 655 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: If you're ready to go. 656 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 7: I think of Mike Leak Cincinnati read Yeah, same guy 657 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 7: came up. 658 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, man, he's on the fence. Here is 659 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: he gonna make it? Is he not? Boom came right up? Boom. 660 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 7: Why not let's go see what you're made of. Some 661 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 7: guys don't need it. There's a lot of guys I 662 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 7: thought that didn't need it that should have been called up. 663 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 7: But that's the nature of the beast in baseball. But yeah, 664 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 7: fortunate for him, he's gonna have a big opportunity. Let's 665 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 7: let's give him a chance to And I think people 666 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 7: need to understand that give this guy a chance. He 667 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 7: might fail a little bit, but guess that's it. He 668 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 7: deserves to be there. And congratulations to him. 669 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: I trust Ron Washington. Whatever decisions he makes to keep 670 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: somebody on the roster. I know it's not just uh, 671 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: let's just go and see what he's gonna do. I 672 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: think he feels something good about about this kid, that 673 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: he's got a great arm and see what you can 674 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work out, guess what. Plenty of 675 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: time to go down in the minor leagues and develop. 676 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: But why not give the kid a chance if he 677 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: feels he's ready I don't like wasting bullets of pitchers. 678 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: If you feel like he's a big league pitcher, I'm 679 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: fine with that sometimes with the position players. I think 680 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different with the Angels where you 681 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: should let him marinate a little bit, But it. 682 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 6: Is what it is. 683 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew Suck. We've had a bunch obviously in spring training, 684 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: as we always do. Here's one that just popped up 685 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 3: yesterday right after The show Man. Jordan Montgomery has had 686 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 3: just a weird journey the last couple of years. Kratz, 687 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: former teammate of yours. He appeared in two spring training games. 688 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: He was going through like a finger issue that he had, 689 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: so he's mostly doing backfield work, and then he wasn't 690 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: recovering well after outings, so he's actually going under the knife. 691 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: He's not going to pitch for the whole year. He's 692 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: getting Tommy John surgery. It's the second TJ that he's getting. 693 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: He had one in twenty eighteen with the Yankees, so 694 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: that'll be it for his Arizona Diamonbacks career, right. 695 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 6: I don't think he has another option after this to use. 696 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 3: And you know, it was just the World Series win 697 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: with the Rangers stud picked up at the deadline. The 698 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: Diamondbacks regretted not getting him at the time right and 699 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: thought maybe if we had him on our side, because 700 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: we were close, we would have won the World Series. 701 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: They signed him in the off season. He had a 702 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: terrible year. He gets booted to the bullpen, he's pissed 703 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: about it, switches representation off season. 704 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 6: You're thinking he's going to get traded. He doesn't. 705 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: Now we're in spring training, doesn't make the starting rotation, 706 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 3: gets booted to the bullpen, and then one day later 707 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: announces Tommy John surgery. How was that for chronological order 708 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: of a crazy freaking year and a half. 709 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 5: And the thing that people don't remember is Ken Kendrick, 710 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 5: the owner of the Diamondbacks, came out and said when 711 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 5: they signed him, when they signed him originally, they said, 712 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 5: you know what, our success last year has led to 713 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 5: x amount more season tickets that they sold, So it 714 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 5: was kind of a later signing in the Blake Snell ilk. 715 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 5: You know, each of them missed the spring training and 716 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 5: it was a tough start. So kudos to Ken Kendrick. 717 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 5: Then fast forward a year, not kudos to what he said, 718 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 5: and it just sucked like This is just I'm not 719 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 5: saying that people should take the first offer that they 720 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 5: get or just just more. Each individual situation in free 721 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 5: agency contract offers is different. Jordan Montgomery was looking at 722 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty million. It didn't come It was 723 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 5: kind of a late late surge in his career at 724 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 5: the end of it, you know, before he made it 725 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 5: to free agency where he was really successful, really healthy. 726 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 5: It sucks, but after all of this, a year to 727 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: just like reset, a year to rehab and be one 728 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 5: hundred percent healthy for next year. 729 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: I think we'll do him a world of good. 730 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: Well, the story too with him that offseason was about 731 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: four years one hundred million dollars. Insiders have put it 732 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: out there and even I asked a couple of people 733 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 3: and got some confirmation. So I'm not the insider, but 734 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: it was about four hundred. Yeah, he's looking for the 735 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: one fifty. It doesn't come through, and you know some 736 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 3: people are like, oh, he held out too long and 737 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 3: all that. 738 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean he had one hundred mili, he 739 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 6: might not have wanted to go to Boston. 740 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, but here here's the problem that I have, and 741 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 7: I remember going through it when I tried signed in 742 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,239 Speaker 7: long term. And I don't blame the agencies, but at 743 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 7: the same time they go about they don't want to 744 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 7: ruin the landscape, like you got it, you gotta stick 745 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 7: with this. You know you can't go under this price? 746 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 7: Well why not? I know it's fifty million, But at 747 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 7: the end of the day he lost out on so 748 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 7: much more money if somebody was to offer you that. 749 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 7: I mean, at the end of the day, like, oh, 750 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 7: you can't do that, You'll ruin the landscape of what 751 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 7: you know, the younger players are gonna get coming up. 752 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: Baloney. This is my life too as well. 753 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 7: And I you know, looking back on some things in 754 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 7: careers and in my career it's like maybe, you know, 755 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 7: I shouldn't have listened, and I should have did this, 756 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 7: or other guys shouldn't have listened, did that, Like listen, 757 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 7: one hundred million dollars is game changing. He wouldn't have 758 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 7: to wear He still doesn't have to worry about anything. 759 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 7: But still his kids, kids, kids, everybody else down the 760 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 7: road would have been taken care of. Stop worrying about 761 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 7: the norm of what everybody else got, and worry about 762 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 7: what you feel is right. 763 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: It's hard to say no to something has nine figures 764 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: in it right for however many years. And I know 765 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: it's easy for us to say that here, but if 766 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: any of us were offered that, I think it would 767 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: be a pretty easy decision. But yeah, I think when 768 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: you mentioned that they're trying to keep the kind of 769 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: the salaries where they are or above as the years 770 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: go by, I get that. I understand where everybody's going 771 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: with that. But at the same time, like if somebody 772 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: takes a hometown discount, nobody's really complaining about that. They're 773 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: complaining when you're going to free agency and not signing 774 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: for fifty extra million dollars, like you know. 775 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 7: You can't do They go you can't do that, Yes 776 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 7: you can, You're lot right. The other side's going to 777 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 7: be like, yeah, we could do whatever the heck we want. Well, 778 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 7: you know you're going to change your landscape of you know, 779 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 7: free agency and this and that below me. 780 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my life. I want to get what I 781 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: feel like I deserve. 782 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 6: We've had him on. 783 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 3: It's been a minute because he's been going through a lot, 784 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 3: but I'd love to get him back on at some 785 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: point Kratz, because I'm not even sure if it was 786 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 3: just about the money. 787 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 4: I know. 788 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 3: You know, remember that offseason two years ago, there were 789 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: talks about his wife studying in Boston for something. But 790 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: then it sounded like talking to some other people behind 791 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: the scenes, he really wanted to go back to Texas. 792 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 3: Maybe they were hoping that something would formulate. But the Rangers, 793 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 3: you know, really didn't spend much a couple off seasons 794 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 3: ago after winning the World Series, So I'm curious what 795 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 3: ended up happening there. I Mean, sometimes you know, you 796 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: run with something, Oh, this person's doing some school here 797 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 3: for a year, he must want to sign there, and 798 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,479 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, that might not be the case because 799 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 3: he was brought the deal and he said no. 800 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. 801 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 5: And I mean that did the Rangers make the right choice? 802 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 5: You know, the Rangers fans will probably be like, oh, no, 803 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 5: they had a down year. I wish we would have 804 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 5: had another guy. Yeah, you're always looking for better players, 805 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 5: resigning players. Their TV contract landscape was up in the 806 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 5: air in the off season, so they didn't make moves. 807 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 5: Looking back on it, yeah, they needed more pitching depth. 808 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 5: They got Jacob deGrom and you know, he didn't throw 809 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 5: a lot for him. A lot of things a lot 810 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 5: of things go into it, and it's not cut or dry, 811 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 5: but it is exactly what Todd said. 812 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 4: I get it. 813 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 5: Agents are gonna be around a lot longer than players are. 814 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 4: Players. 815 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 5: Association is gonna be at around a lot longer than 816 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 5: an individual player is. But it's your opportunity to capitalize. 817 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 5: And if you think that number is your number, hey 818 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 5: get it. 819 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 3: Can I get some clarification here too, just from the 820 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 3: show that has all these players on that say whatever 821 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: they want. 822 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 6: You know, you have some people online like. 823 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 3: Oh, he didn't make the rotation, so he was just like, 824 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: screw it, I'm gonna get surgery. I'm like, you know, 825 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: as much as you want to buy into certain conspiracy 826 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 3: theories and storylines, and I'm sure he's not pleased with 827 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: the owner of the team, you're a pitcher and he 828 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 3: already had TJ. 829 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. 830 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 6: Do you think that someone would be like. 831 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: You know what, I probably don't need this, but let 832 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 3: me go for it. 833 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 6: I saw plenty of that. 834 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 5: Yeah. 835 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 6: No, I'm sure. 836 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 3: Oh he was on the cusp and decided because he 837 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 3: didn't make the rotation, he's just gonna sit the year 838 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: out and get surgery. 839 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: Kind of like the Rendoin story. 840 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 3: Which, Hey, I'm the first person to be like, this 841 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 3: guy doesn't like baseball, bat signing, whatever. 842 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 6: But I don't think he's getting hip surgery for fun, right. 843 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: You don't want to go under the knife just to 844 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: go under the knife. It's not like you're getting plastic 845 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: surgery to fix something, right, Like this is something that 846 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: you're fixing inside and then you can't play for a while. 847 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: Jordan Montgomery, whether he made the rotation or didn't make 848 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: the rotation, he wants to pitch better so that he 849 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: can get a contract when free agency comes again. It's 850 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: he's not gonna cry wolf and say, Okay, I'm just 851 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: gonna go and get cut right now, have this big 852 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: slice in my elbow again. 853 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then obviously, I mean you're a double TJ guy. 854 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 3: Your value goes down, right, if you want to clearly 855 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 3: just go off of that narrative. Your value goes down. 856 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 3: Your dad had two Tommy John surgeries. I don't know 857 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: when he's gonna come back, but it's probably not going 858 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 3: to be at the start of next year. So do 859 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 3: you really think that he's that spiteful. He's just gonna 860 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 3: miss a year and a half. The time and cost 861 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: himself even more money just by going under the night. No, 862 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: he couldn't recover after he's got a tear again. 863 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, he still wants a pitch. I mean yeah, he 864 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 7: wants to play. He's still pretty young. 865 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 3: Yeah he is yes man two years ago, dude, he 866 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 3: was freaking nasty, just just picking his spots, changing speeds, 867 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 3: like the sequencing was so on for him. He was 868 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 3: just so good in the playoffs. He's not the biggest 869 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 3: stuff guy, but he was a pitcher. 870 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it spot up with the best of them. 871 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so get well soon, Demanti. We'll get him on 872 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 3: at some point. We'll we'll we'll have krats text him, 873 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 3: you know, every other week and say we miss you. 874 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: So we get him to join us because he's pretty 875 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 3: fun combat. Anyway, let's get to Jared Jones. It was 876 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 3: really fun to watch last year for the Pirates. So 877 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 3: he goes down for a little bit of time. He's 878 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 3: getting testing done. This is actually good news here. He's 879 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: gonna miss time, but no torn ligaments, no surgery. He's 880 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 3: gonna go six weeks without throwing. So this was from 881 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 3: Noah haile To we've had on the show. Does great 882 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 3: job covering the team. He said overall encouraging news for 883 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 3: the Pirates. It is encouraging long term news for the Pirates. 884 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 3: On the short term, I just feel like this is 885 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 3: a team that needs so many things to go right 886 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 3: for them to be a playoff club. And if he's 887 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 3: not doing anything for six weeks, well here you start here, 888 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 3: six weeks, then you got the ramp up and he's 889 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 3: a starter. I didn't look up what the date is, 890 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 3: but if we had to guess, I mean we're talking 891 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 3: what maybe late May, maybe June. 892 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: Well, if they're if they're making him sit for six weeks, 893 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: why don't he just go ahead and get cut, just 894 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 1: like Jordan Montgomery is going to get. 895 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 6: His elbow cut right right, just going under the Yeah. 896 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: So it's unfortunate for them, obviously, but I still think 897 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: that they're ways away. 898 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 6: The Pirates. 899 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they would need Paul Schemes to pitch every 900 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: single day of every single game. So but it's unfortunate, 901 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: and hopefully, you know, when he does get ramped back 902 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: up after the six weeks, it may be June, it 903 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: may be after the All Star break, but I don't 904 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: think there's any reason to rush him to get where 905 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: they want him to be because they're not going to 906 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: be contending. They're still in that rebuild and they're still 907 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: going to be relevant for a little bit. But at 908 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you don't want to risk 909 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: this guy and actually have him go under the knife 910 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: if you bring back too soon. 911 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 7: You know, I mean, I mean, what can you do? 912 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 7: I mean you're gonna have to. I would build my 913 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 7: legs up like nobody else's business. That's probably the only 914 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 7: thing you can do. And for him rehab, build your 915 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 7: legs up, get a little stammin or get on the 916 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 7: bike and on the treadmill, stuff like that, and be 917 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 7: ready to go. Because when your time's called, what happens 918 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 7: if all of a sudden they tear it up and 919 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 7: they need a guy, Oh well, we got him coming back, 920 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 7: so be ready to go. I think it's it's six weeks. 921 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 7: I'm gonna say three months at least in my opinion, 922 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 7: because you're gonna have to ramp back up, start your 923 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 7: throwing program, go down to a minor league stint, and 924 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 7: where you. 925 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 4: Go, easy, easy, ty. 926 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 5: You're exactly right, because if he's not thrown for six weeks, 927 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 5: you're talking about a build up for six weeks after 928 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 5: that then rehab so and that rehab stint can be 929 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 5: twenty days, probably three or four starts, depending But either way, 930 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 5: are we not concerned that this is back to back 931 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 5: years of a young kid who throws a billion with 932 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 5: a banger that there's no structural damage, but there's pain 933 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 5: and inflammation in that elbow, Like, are we like, is 934 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 5: there a concern that, hey, you know what, maybe physically, 935 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 5: biomechanically he may need to change something because no damage 936 00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 5: is great, but there's precursors and if they don't nip 937 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 5: it in the bud right now, where are we at? 938 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 3: It's tricky though, because, like we're talking about, you're not 939 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 3: going to just get surgery right that it's not needed, No, 940 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 3: no, no no. But the issue means you're saying, when he 941 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 3: comes back to change something, is there a formula like, well, 942 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: what he actually has to do? 943 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 6: Spin it different? 944 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 2: Maybe? 945 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you know, maybe. 946 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: Come up with a different pitch, one that's not going 947 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: to put so much stress. 948 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 6: But which one is that? 949 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: That's what they I think that's what Cratsy's saying that biomechanically, 950 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: you got to figure that out. Figure out what is 951 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: causing this this issue the pain because there's there's no 952 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: structural damage. But if there's pain when you're throwing, you 953 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: can't just keep throwing that way and hope that there's 954 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: no structural damage. Eventually, you got to figure out how 955 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: to make this work where you can pitch without pain 956 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: and memris. 957 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 2: They don't show everything, you know. 958 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 7: I when I had knee surgery, I had of torn meniscus, 959 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 7: but they also found three different other things in there 960 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 7: they didn't see on the m R. That's just the 961 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 7: God's honest true. So I'm not saying they're missing the 962 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 7: big thing, but there could be some underlying factors as 963 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 7: well we're not seeing. 964 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we talked about the pitching injury epidemic 965 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 3: for a couple of years now. Kratz, I feel like 966 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 3: I'll read, Hey, throwing hard causes a problem. Hey, throwing 967 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 3: breakers causes a problem. I'm like, so what doesn't cause 968 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 3: a problem, Like you know, just long doss or medium 969 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 3: what doesn't cause a problem, Like forget that, what pitch 970 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 3: doesn't cause a problem? 971 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 6: And an eighty two mile an hour fastball. 972 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 5: Maybe throw maybe throw more. I mean even one of 973 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 5: the one of the slower throwers. As far as like 974 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 5: prospects go Drew Thorpe with the White Sox, he went, 975 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 5: he went Yankees to the Padres Padres. You know, he 976 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 5: was in big trades. He got Tommy Johns. So it's 977 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 5: not necessarily only the guys that throw hard. To me, 978 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 5: why don't if you're if you're a pirates organization, why 979 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 5: don't you try to go outside the box. You're not 980 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 5: willing to pay for the big time guys. And I'm 981 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 5: not saying this to one specific player. I'm talking about 982 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 5: the org. Have these dudes throw more, Have them throw more. 983 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 5: People are gonna be like, what, You're an idiot. Okay, yeah, 984 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 5: I've been called an idiot before. And before you say 985 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 5: anything else, I'm a two h nine career hitter, So 986 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 5: I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe try something 987 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 5: different than what everybody like. We're guys, innings are going 988 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 5: two hundred to one eighty. Now, a dude's a workhorse 989 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 5: if he throws one hundred and sixty innings. Have them 990 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 5: throw more, and maybe they learn to pitch and like 991 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 5: not have to throw their one hundred pitches at a 992 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 5: billion percent. 993 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: And be out of the game in the fourth inning 994 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: after four thirds. So I agree with with Cratzy there. 995 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: I think as pitchers, you have to throw more. You 996 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: that's your one and only job is to throw, So 997 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: why not throw more long, toss more, whether it's every 998 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: day or every other day. But I also, and this 999 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 1: is going to probably piss off a lot of pictures 1000 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: and strength coaches, but I never wanted to go in 1001 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: the weight room and do anything upper body except like 1002 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: normal shoulder routines. And as far as weightlifting, are they 1003 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: weightlifting too much? Is that's what causing this strain on 1004 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: their elbows? I never once had a sore elbow. My 1005 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: shoulder would hurt often, but my elbow never bothered me. 1006 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 1: But is that because I never worked out my upper body? 1007 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Maybe these guys are 1008 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 1: working out too much. 1009 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 2: For all this. 1010 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 3: Chapmen from thirty minutes ago in the show says, excuse me, 1011 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 3: I lift like a beast, And yeah, he's had some injuries, 1012 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 3: but he's mostly been a freaking workhorse reliever, and I 1013 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 3: get it, different starter reliever. 1014 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 6: And also there's some outlier bodies. 1015 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 3: But crats I mean, I just don't think we have 1016 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 3: a formula yet we do this all the time. We're like, oh, 1017 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 3: we got to fix the pitching injury epidemic. And then 1018 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 3: we ask people, even smart people, like what's the answer, 1019 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 3: And there's not much of an answer. I think that, 1020 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 3: you know, the most common one is probably the youth, 1021 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 3: but that's not even. 1022 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 2: The right way to look at it. 1023 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 6: Forever or not. 1024 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 3: Every picture was pitching a million innings when they were 1025 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 3: a kid, either, and they still get hurt. So I 1026 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 3: just don't feel like there's good answers yet. Besides the body, 1027 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 3: unless you want to change the body and turn it 1028 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,959 Speaker 3: into a cyborg, it's just not made to do this stuff. 1029 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 5: I think, and I said this before, the biomechanical stuff 1030 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 5: that teems if you don't have a bio mechanical lab 1031 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 5: with the force plates, and I think it's like a 1032 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 5: twelve camera system around in like an enclosed area. If 1033 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 5: you don't have that, now you're three or four years 1034 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,879 Speaker 5: behind every other organization that has it. That's how we're 1035 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 5: going to figure out how structurally mechanically, you know, biometrically, 1036 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 5: people are moving, and what is going to create long 1037 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 5: term sustained health and what is putting a lot of 1038 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 5: stress on this and on this The stress is on 1039 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 5: this Okay, we. 1040 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 4: Come back after a year to fourteen months. 1041 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 5: If they play through this, then you start getting some 1042 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 5: Danny Gray's stress on this, and that ain't it because 1043 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 5: once this goes tough to come back from it. 1044 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 3: A pitching lab is the sexy word in baseball, but 1045 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 3: I think only half the teams, if not less, have it. 1046 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 6: It costs several million dollars. 1047 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that 1048 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 3: the Pirates don't have a pitching lab yet. I hope 1049 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 3: someone's watching or listening to another plenty of exact agents whatever, 1050 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 3: text me if I'm wrong, or crats if you know, 1051 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 3: but I don't think they have one. 1052 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 5: They have one of the most elaborate batting cages. I 1053 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 5: mean it looked like Chuck E. Cheese is in there 1054 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 5: when I hit with my son in the batting cage. 1055 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,240 Speaker 5: They got so many gimmicks and other things. I didn't 1056 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 5: see the force plate, but a lot of people, a 1057 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 5: lot of teams have it in a different section their 1058 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 5: own pitching lab, like they want to be super secretive 1059 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 5: about it. Plus the lighting has to be perfect, and 1060 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 5: there's a lot of the red Sox. 1061 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 4: I saw it that John. 1062 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 6: Is nice nice. At some point I want to talk 1063 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 6: about that on the show. 1064 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 3: If anyone can reveal it, maybe we'll get a cia 1065 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 3: op on to talk about it. Let's slap, We'll get 1066 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 3: to one fan question if we have time. You know what, Also, 1067 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 3: I keep forgetting to do this, So krats hats go now, 1068 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 3: and then I'll do our quick shout out here. 1069 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 2: I got it. I gotta be a Philly hut. 1070 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 4: I mean, why wow off. I mean I'm going. 1071 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 5: I'm going Phillies and rads here. Only problem is, just 1072 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 5: like my hair, whoa, Reds are gonna be out. They're 1073 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 5: gonna be knocked out by the Phillies in the playoffs 1074 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 5: this year. 1075 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 6: Wow. 1076 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 3: A little sneak peak of his playoff predictions for tomorrow. 1077 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 3: All right, let's shout. 1078 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 6: Out a long time broadcaster with the Nationals. 1079 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 3: You've had a really cool message to fans a couple 1080 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 3: of days ago. 1081 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 9: It's good to be back in our ballpark. And as 1082 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 9: we do, I've got a little personal news to share 1083 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 9: with you. The twenty twenty five season will be my 1084 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 9: final one as the nats primary TV play by play guy. 1085 00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 9: Whatever you like to call me, I'm okay with that. 1086 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 9: But I've got a new deal working for next year 1087 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 9: as a full time husband, dad and grandpa, and it's 1088 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 9: been pretty cool to have the kids around for the 1089 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 9: last couple of months after they moved home from Seattle. 1090 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 9: So my objective is to all season long, thank you 1091 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 9: Nets fans for the way that you've been to my wife, 1092 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 9: Debbie and I and our family over these nineteen years previously. 1093 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 9: Let's make number twenty a lot of fun. I'm sure 1094 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 9: next time, at this next year, at this time, I'll 1095 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 9: be a little melancholy and a little bit sad with 1096 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 9: opening day approaching, but feeling like I'm doing the right 1097 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 9: thing for my family, and that's good enough for all 1098 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 9: of us. 1099 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 2: All right. 1100 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 3: So cheers to Bob Carpenter, who this is his twentieth 1101 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 3: season calling Nats baseball, forty two seasons calling ball. 1102 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 6: Easy listens. 1103 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 3: He's got a great home run later, exactly great, great 1104 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 3: home run Paul too, So very good. 1105 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 6: My girl doesn't watch baseball much. That's her favorite CAB. 1106 00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 2: That's a marketable call. 1107 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,760 Speaker 7: That's doubt you Later. 1108 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 2: I think it's great. It is great. There's some really 1109 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 2: good call. Oh my god. 1110 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 7: You know, I've always sat back and always thought like 1111 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 7: what would be my home uncle. 1112 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 2: I I still don't have like a natural one. You know. 1113 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 7: I always take like a few from this guy and 1114 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 7: that one. It's always the Michael k one that always 1115 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 7: comes comes to my mind, like because just because I 1116 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 7: hear them all the time, you know, and I work. 1117 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 7: But it's like, you got to come with something natural 1118 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 7: that was absolutely incredible. 1119 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, can you come up with something for tomorrow? 1120 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 7: You know you and are gonna sit down over a 1121 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 7: little surveys yea, and we're gonna figure it out. 1122 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: And we're gonna be people gonna look at a screaming. 1123 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 2: MGM place next door. We're gonna just scream it out. 1124 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have one, I mean, muss up. 1125 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 2: Oh so so just do just do it real quick. 1126 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 7: Danny Graves throws a picture Todd Fraser go ahead and 1127 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 7: strike three. 1128 00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: Up. 1129 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 6: I wouldn't do you remember when now I sorr, I 1130 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 6: beg you whatever else. 1131 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 3: But then I'd be like Fraser muscles up for his 1132 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 3: thirty second homer of the year and the Reds go. 1133 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 2: You know, I like the secondary call. 1134 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 6: But whatever. 1135 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 3: Anyway, if you're watching online, we're staying. We got thirty 1136 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 3: seconds left. Krat Oh. There was a question about Austin 1137 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 3: Wells an extension. I'm going to save that for tomorrow. Actually, 1138 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 3: I think it was a very good question Pinball Wizard 1139 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 3: asked it. 1140 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 6: So how about this. 1141 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 3: I'm going to put it in my little notes, which 1142 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 3: you know eighty percent of the time I actually remember them. 1143 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 3: So there's a good chance we'll talk about it tomorrow. 1144 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 3: We got an opening day show tomorrow, of course, eleven 1145 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 3: am Eastern Time. That'll be our last eleven am of 1146 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 3: the season. So one more one more sleep than one 1147 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 3: more early time. 1148 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 6: Yeah,