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Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the Clay,

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps the most joyous show in Clay and Buck history

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Speaker 3: so far. Over three years. We've got major Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: wins that have come down today that you may not

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Speaker 3: have heard about. Chevron doctrine, out the window. Jan six cases,

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Speaker 3: out the window, the Jan six case. We'll talk with

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Speaker 3: our friend Julie Kelly, who has been on top of

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Speaker 3: this for years now. I would say that's coming. But Buck,

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Speaker 3: I thought Biden would be bad. I said this debate

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Speaker 3: was pass fail for him, and that the requirement to

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Speaker 3: pass was incredibly low. Yet still Biden was an unmitigated disaster.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes in, heck, two minutes in, I.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't believe, even knowing how bad he is, and even

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Speaker 3: knowing how mentally and physically deficient he is. The side

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Speaker 3: by side of Trump and Biden was jarring even to me,

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Speaker 3: and I thought, with a full week to prepare, they

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Speaker 3: would have Biden loaded up and he would be mediocre.

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Speaker 3: I think yesterday I said that it would be like

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Speaker 3: a boxing match where both guys go and then lift

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Speaker 3: their arms going to the corners.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't the case.

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Speaker 3: Trump knocked out Biden Mike Tyson style in the first

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Speaker 3: two minutes of this fight, and from that point forward

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Speaker 3: it was a foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 2: What was going to happen?

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Speaker 3: Now, we'll take your calls eight hundred and two two

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Speaker 3: two eight a two. It was so bad that the

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Speaker 3: convert station didn't even go to who won the debate?

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Speaker 3: It went to who's going to be the Democrat Party nominee,

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Speaker 3: which is the ultimate stake bet. And I gotta be

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Speaker 3: honest with you, Buck. After two minutes, I said, I

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Speaker 3: think I want to go a five.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you right now, and I'm telling everybody

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Speaker 4: that I didn't know i'd be in this position. I

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Speaker 4: wasn't certain that such a thing could happen. But the

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Speaker 4: facts are what they are, and that's why today I'm

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Speaker 4: going to resolutely double down. Biden is going to be

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Speaker 4: the nominee. I don't know what it's gonna take for

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Speaker 4: everybody to see the truth here. It's gonna be Biden, Harris,

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Speaker 4: There's no other option. It was a horrific debate last night,

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Speaker 4: but you know the.

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Speaker 3: Worst of debate, the worst debate by a presidential candidate

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Speaker 3: in any of our lives.

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Speaker 2: But you're sticking on the eye with it.

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Speaker 4: I am not budging an inch. I think all this talk,

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Speaker 4: all this hand ringing is is is malarkey to borrow

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Speaker 4: from Biden. I think it's nonsense. Look, Biden was as

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Speaker 4: awful as he could possibly be. Biden has been a

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Speaker 4: terrible president. Biden is a just sociopathically dishonest and rapaciously

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Speaker 4: narcissistic and greedy clown. And yet he is still the

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Speaker 4: president of the United States right now. When I think

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Speaker 4: it's so funny, I mean, there's a lot clay. Last night,

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Speaker 4: first of all, watch the debate, watch it with Kerrie.

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Speaker 4: You know, we really took it all in, and then

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Speaker 4: we went right to MSNBC, right to MSNBS favorite show.

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Speaker 4: And as I said, it was it was like trying

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Speaker 4: to watch that table explain why a family member had

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Speaker 4: done something like horrifically embarrassing in public. It was like

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Speaker 4: the most oh, the looks on their faces.

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Speaker 4: But what's so fascinating is that they all know, they

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Speaker 4: all knew in advance that this is who Joe Biden is.

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Speaker 4: But the game no longer works, and we'll get into

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Speaker 4: like what Joe Scarborough said weeks ago, and they're all liars.

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Speaker 4: And I don't say that just because I disagree with them.

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Speaker 4: These people that go on TV and say Joe Biden,

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Speaker 4: so they're lying to their audience because that's what their

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Speaker 4: audience wants to hear it. We don't lie to you.

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Speaker 4: We've been saying this the whole time. We know that

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden isn't up for this. The whole thing is absurd, Clay.

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Speaker 4: The fact that he's president now and has been scary

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Speaker 4: three is scary. He's got seven possible.

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Speaker 3: He's got seven months left as president of the United States,

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Speaker 3: even if he loses, until the new inauguration happens in January.

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Speaker 3: I just I look at it and I think that

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden can beat Donald Trump in the election.

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Speaker 4: Now that's a different anything than Joe Biden won't be

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Speaker 4: the nominee. That's what I mean. That's why that's why

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Speaker 3: That's why I think they have to move on from Biden.

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Speaker 3: Now here's the challenge doctor Joe Biden. Jill she is awful,

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Speaker 3: they lose everything. So what happens here if everybody comes

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Speaker 4: Now, how it plays out is Joe Biden is the nominee. Right,

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Speaker 4: there is no mechanism, it does not exist to replace

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden. If Joe Biden wants to continue in as

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Speaker 4: do you think Joe Biden? What else does Joe Biden have?

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Speaker 4: Does anyone think that he wants to not just go

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Speaker 4: this way, in an ignominious collapse. Because because here's what

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Speaker 4: I here's what I am absolutely certain of, Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: drops Donald Trumps President Donald Trump. Donald Trump will absolutely

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Speaker 4: defeat And because there is nobody who has the name recognition,

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Speaker 4: there is nobody who has the ready to go political

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Speaker 4: and deal with the fact that this would be a

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Speaker 4: last minute, a last minute switch, undoing all the months

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Speaker 4: of propaganda around Biden and all the stuff that they've

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Speaker 4: been saying about how Biden Harris is going to do it.

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Speaker 4: It would be like saying, yeah, we've lied to you

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Speaker 4: this whole time. He is a senile buffoon. Now we're

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Speaker 4: going to give you somebody else that we say is awesome.

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Speaker 4: If they I'll.

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Speaker 2: Tell you how they'll do it.

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Speaker 3: If they could get Biden to step down, I think

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be a ton of preyer for him to

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Speaker 3: step down. Biden will say, upon reflection, I don't have

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Speaker 3: the minimal and physical fitness to be able to be

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Speaker 3: president for four more years, and I think it's unfair

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Speaker 3: to ask Americans to vote for me for four more years.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to free all my delegates for the August convention.

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Speaker 3: Whomever the person is that's selected will then become the savior.

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Speaker 2: Of American democracy.

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Speaker 3: Everybody on the Democrat Party will get their talking points

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Speaker 3: and they will go out and you know this, this

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Speaker 3: is true. Forty five percent of Americans would vote for

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Speaker 4: Do you remember who Rick Lazio is, the.

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Speaker 2: Guy who lost to Hillary Clinton?

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Speaker 4: There are you do?

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Speaker 3: Good good good pick in the Senate campaign back in

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Speaker 4: But remember he it was going to be Rudy Giuliani

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Speaker 4: to step aside and Rick Lasio it was just like

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Speaker 4: lambs to the slaughter. I mean, there was no chance

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Speaker 4: apparently a very nice guy. I don't know him, but

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Speaker 4: you know he got he got fed into the lions

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Speaker 4: down there. And I just if you're the next on

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Speaker 4: think you should be, you're you are taking over a

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Speaker 4: sinking ship. This is the other part of this. Psychologically,

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Speaker 4: you are the guy who is gonna or gal who's

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Speaker 4: going to come in and say there are leaks everywhere,

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Speaker 4: clearly a Trump juggernaut. The legal stuff in the background,

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's so much here everyone. The background of

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Speaker 4: this is that the Law Fair campaign has been an

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Speaker 4: abject political failure. So correct that that, and they did

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Speaker 4: healthy lead over Trump because he's a convicted felon. The

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Speaker 4: No one cares. The people who do care hated Trump

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Speaker 4: before he got convicted, so it means nothing. And they've

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Speaker 4: they've made a huge blunder, a huge miss. We've been

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Speaker 4: saying they wanted Trump, and they're gonna find out because

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Speaker 4: they thought they could do this legal stuff. They wanted Trump,

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Speaker 4: we don't actually want it to be Trump.

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Speaker 3: I think that they are going to be so first

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Speaker 3: of all, we're going to go into July fourth on Monday,

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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get a Trump somewhat protected presidential

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Speaker 3: fourth holiday. Over that July fourth holiday, they will hide Biden.

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Speaker 3: He'll probably be at the Rehoboth Beach Place on Monday.

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Speaker 3: After July fourth, will start to get a lot of

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Speaker 2: I think Trump's going to open up a double visit.

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Speaker 4: But again, we're gonna We're gonna keep coming back to this.

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Speaker 4: But I want everyone to be very clear because I

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Speaker 4: don't want any to think, oh Buck, Look, they were

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Speaker 4: talking about it on MSNBC last night, my favorite news channel.

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Speaker 4: They were talking a lot about Kamala Harris. That is possible.

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Speaker 4: That is possible because you'll tell the Biden voters you

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Speaker 4: see them doing. And I have said that all along,

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Speaker 4: he should be spending time and I mean this honestly

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Speaker 4: that there's nobody who you know, this isn't Obama, Hillary

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Speaker 4: two thousand and eight. There isn't another very close second

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Speaker 4: that's why when you look at this, there's just and

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Speaker 4: I know the Democrats are the one saying, oh, it's yeah.

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Speaker 4: They say a lot of things. They cry about all

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Speaker 4: they cry about climate change. So they're crying about the

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Speaker 4: debate last night.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna be Kamala because she's actually would get

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Speaker 3: beat worse than Biden.

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Speaker 4: But she would take the job. She is the VP,

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Speaker 4: the mechanism is there, and her political future, you know,

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Speaker 4: if somebody has to if somebody has to metaphor the

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Speaker 4: somebody has to take this one for the team, better analogy,

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Speaker 4: take this one for the team. That's where I see

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Speaker 4: this going. It would be Kamala Harris. I think they

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Speaker 3: I think I think Biden would say much like Barack

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Speaker 3: Obama did not endorse me as his vice president. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to open up all my delegates. You guys know

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Speaker 4: to go out a loser. I think in Biden's mind

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Speaker 4: he's doing the Democrats a favor because if you're Joe Biden,

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Speaker 4: you're certain Kamala Harris gets crushed by Donald Trump, not

436
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Speaker 4: even close. And I think that's right. I don't think

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Speaker 4: that's a delusion that Biden's under. So if it's him

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Speaker 4: or her, he thinks better that it's him. And I

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Speaker 4: think that a lot of people that are looking at

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Speaker 4: this for over the long run too, would say, you know,

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Speaker 4: at least if Joe Biden loses, that's that's over and

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Speaker 4: done with for that, You've got one more Trump term

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Speaker 4: and then you get to run another Democrat against him.

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Speaker 4: It's not like Trump can get eight years. You don't

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Speaker 4: want to burn one of your good options for the future.

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Speaker 4: You know the people. I know everyone's saying Newsom and Whitmer,

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Speaker 4: Newsom and Whitmer. Gavin Newsom is not going to play

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Speaker 4: well in swing states. White working class voters are not

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Speaker 4: going to like Gavin Whitmer. Okay, I mean, sorry, Gavin Whitmer.

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Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: Pretend you're there, there would be chief of staff. You

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Speaker 3: stand to gain a measurable power if your person is

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Speaker 3: elected president. Because I do think this is a really

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Speaker 3: interesting question. Would you say no if you're Gavin Newsom?

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Speaker 3: You know, if Biden loses clear no.

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Speaker 4: Incombent running in twenty it's asking you to take over

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Speaker 4: the football team down two touchdowns in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 4: as the coach.

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Speaker 2: Yes, do you want?

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Speaker 4: Do you want to take over as the coach in

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Speaker 4: that situation? Because that's what taking over for Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: in July of twenty twenty four would be. It would

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Speaker 4: be you are way up against it. The fundraising issues,

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Speaker 4: I mean, and just also the general public would be

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Speaker 4: like what a clown show? These Democrats are what an

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Speaker 4: absurdity because they've been telling us for six months he's fine,

468
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Speaker 4: he's great, everything's great. Then they're just gonna say, oh,

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Speaker 4: psych sorry, He's actually like.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think what he would claim is that he

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Speaker 3: got some new diagnosis and he's trying to be honest

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Speaker 3: with the American public game. But I mean he would

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Speaker 3: say we could all see through that. Well, Morning Joe

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Speaker 3: would be like, this is the bravest thing that any

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Speaker 3: president has ever done, since you know, he's George Washington

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Speaker 3: relinquishing power at the peak of his abohemy.

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Speaker 4: Now you're getting me excited for that Morning Joe episode,

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Speaker 4: So it may actually happen.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's exactly what would happen we come back.

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Speaker 3: Someone has taken an unbelievable shot at Buck Sexton in

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Speaker 3: the public arena. What I don't even know if Buck

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Speaker 3: has seen it yet. No, that is an incredible tease.

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Speaker 3: I will air at all with you when we return,

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Speaker 3: but first I have to tell you all about our

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Speaker 3: friends at the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews and

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Speaker 3: all of the incredible work that they are doing out

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Speaker 3: being left behind as a result of the attacks that

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Speaker 3: have happened since October seventh.

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Speaker 2: You guys know I'm going over in August.

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Speaker 3: I will be there doing live shows showing how many

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Speaker 3: people out there, everybody that we can that we support

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Speaker 3: which we're going to deliver to the President of Israel

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Speaker 3: Fellowship of Christians and Jews. That is the IFCJ. Will

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Speaker 6: Two guys walk up to a mic Hey, anything goes,

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Speaker 6: Clay Travis and Fuck Sexton. Find them on the free

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Speaker 6: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four the most Important Tier in

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Speaker 1: Politics with Clay Travis and Box Sexton.

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Speaker 3: One of the more entertaining shows we have had in

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Speaker 3: some times massive wins on the Supreme Court, the argument

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Speaker 3: that Joe Biden's dementia is just a cheap fake and

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Speaker 3: all of you are crazy, goes up in smoke. Left

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Speaker 3: wing media comes completely undone, and my goodness, what a night,

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Speaker 3: what a day it has all been as we head

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Speaker 3: into the July fourth holiday week. But Buck, with all

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Speaker 3: this in mind, we started off the show. I'll be

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Speaker 3: honest with you. After the first fifteen minutes. I was

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Speaker 3: thinking about a nice, delectable A five. I was thinking

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Speaker 3: about a nice delectable wagu. I was even thinking what

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Speaker 3: part of the country do I want Buck to buy

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Speaker 3: me a stake in? And I just because yesterday, to

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Speaker 3: be fair, I jumped off of the Tim Scott is

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Speaker 3: going to be to be offered you the JD Vans

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Speaker 3: you did vote And first of all, it's wag.

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Speaker 4: You you barbarian. Okay, not wag goo. I'm glad you've

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Speaker 4: been doing your research. Yeah, well, fair point. Uh remember

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Speaker 4: wine was not included in this bed just a steak

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Speaker 4: crazy look, I'm I am do.

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Speaker 2: You let me ask?

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Speaker 3: Hold on, Let me ask the question before you answer.

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Speaker 3: Out of my intense goodwill and good favor to all

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Speaker 3: of man, I will give you the lifeboat opportunity you're

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Speaker 3: on the island right now. The island does not Let's

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Speaker 3: be honest, the Buck Island is not a widely inhabited

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Speaker 3: island at this point in time. I appreciate your commitment

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Speaker 3: to your cause, but I am right here in the surf.

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Speaker 3: I got a motor on my raft, no danger. We're

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Speaker 3: not even gonna have to use paddles. Would you like

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Speaker 3: to leave the Joe Biden here last opportunity that Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden will be the nominee Island.

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Speaker 4: I remain I'm looking into the camera for this one too.

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Speaker 4: I remain steadfastly confident that the Biden Harris ticket will

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Speaker 4: be this Democrat Party's choice for the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 4: It is Joe Biden or it is Kamala Harris, which

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Speaker 4: is what I have said all along. There will not

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Speaker 4: be some third option. There's not going to be a

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Speaker 4: broker convention or whatever. I am absolutely if I could

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Speaker 4: double down Clay, I would double it down or triple down.

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Speaker 4: Right now, they're gonna this is what I've been saying

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Speaker 4: along everyone, And I know everyone's like, oh, but they

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Speaker 4: were so bad in the bait who even Who's gonna

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Speaker 4: remember the debate in the week these Democrats are ruthless.

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Speaker 4: They convinced people that they had to wear masks that

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Speaker 4: did nothing and stand roughly six feet apart for no

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Speaker 4: reason for three years. You don't think they think they

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Speaker 4: can make this work. Yeah, Biden's a cenile clown. The

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Speaker 4: whole thing is a joke. They don't care. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 4: they actually kind of enjoy this challenge.

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Speaker 3: I actually don't deny that they are incredible wars and

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Speaker 3: that they enjoy on some level making people believe the

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Speaker 3: most ridiculous and absurd things. Here's the problem as I

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Speaker 3: see it. Even your boy did you watch Morning Joe?

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Speaker 3: Even your boy jokes.

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Speaker 4: They should like I should be a paid MSNBC, you know,

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Speaker 4: critic or something at this point, like I watch I

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Speaker 4: watched MSNBEE all night, I watch it all morning. Carrie

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Speaker 4: made me my krack oft coffee this morning. She's like, here,

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Speaker 4: enjoy this while you're watching Morning Joe cry And I

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Speaker 4: was like, yes, that is what I will do.

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Speaker 3: I flipped it over last night to CNN an MSNBC

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Speaker 3: because it was first of all, the ability to pivot

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Speaker 3: from he's so sharp, he's the best version of himself

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Speaker 3: to we have to immediately replace him based on ninety

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Speaker 3: minutes which didn't show any of you anything different than

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Speaker 3: you hadn't already been seeing for the past couple of years.

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Speaker 3: And what I hope is that, look, the Karine Jean

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Speaker 3: Pierre's of the world, and we've talked obviously about this

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Speaker 3: a lot, but the Karine Jean Pierre's of the world

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Speaker 3: are essentially paid to lie. She is a minister of propaganda,

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Speaker 3: and it's important to understand that she's not trying to

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Speaker 3: help get the truth out there. She's willing to say

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Speaker 3: whatever is necessary to add advocate for her boss, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: But the media, if you are listening to us right now,

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Speaker 3: maybe you're not a long time listener, Maybe you never

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Speaker 3: listened to Rush. Maybe you're one of those undecided voters

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Speaker 3: out there that we were taking calls from yesterday. Maybe

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Speaker 3: you're even a Democrat. Maybe you're just somebody who's willing

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Speaker 3: to consider multiple perspectives. What I would hope comes out

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Speaker 3: of this, leaving aside the election for a moment, is

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Speaker 3: I hope some people woke up this morning having watched

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Speaker 3: that debate and realized that they had been being lied

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Speaker 3: to by the people that they're choosing to consume in media.

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Speaker 3: I hope there are some people having that revelation.

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Speaker 4: It's funny to be all these people. First of all,

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Speaker 4: it was MSMEC last night was emmiworthy. I mean it

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Speaker 4: was truly because when they turned on the analysis table,

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Speaker 4: you could just sort of see on the faces of

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Speaker 4: the various like, there's no way to say that. Well,

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Speaker 4: for Biden, it was horrible. I mean, it's a horrible

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Speaker 4: debate for Joe.

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Speaker 3: Biden, the worst maybe that any presidential candidate has ever

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Speaker 3: had in any of our lives, certainly in a televised era.

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Speaker 4: If he had given them a fighting chance of going

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Speaker 4: full back Dad Bob, they would do that for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but there was no chance, right, I mean it was

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Speaker 4: it was no longer possible. But the notion that I

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Speaker 4: found of all of this, probably just the most outrageous,

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Speaker 4: is like they didn't know Clay. They the MSNBC table

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Speaker 4: and so many others. And I know a lot of

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Speaker 4: people have noticed this in the aftermath of this debate.

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Speaker 4: They're going, oh, oh my gosh, I am shocked, shocked

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Speaker 4: to find out that Joe Biden is basically a dementia

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Speaker 4: pation walking around with very little cognition, very little mental acuity. Know,

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Speaker 4: we talk about it so much on this show that

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Speaker 4: it starts to get boring. I mean, it's just an

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Speaker 4: everyday conversation, h another Biden, another scrambled eggs moment, the

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Speaker 4: whole thing. And I just think it's funny that they

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Speaker 4: act like, oh, I had no idea that Joe was in.

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Speaker 4: This has been the case every time he appears in public,

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Speaker 4: every time he has an unscripted woman for four years,

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Speaker 4: there's this is the least surprising thing ever.

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Speaker 3: I I think that this if if you are right

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Speaker 3: on Buck Island, and I gotta be careful on that phrase.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like it sounds.

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Speaker 3: Like it could be a a Porto movie. There For

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Speaker 3: a minute, I gotta say, I think this race is over.

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Speaker 3: And I even as I got into bed last night, Buck,

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Speaker 3: I'm laying there.

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Speaker 2: And I hope I'm not the you know, trying to

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Speaker 2: be dark here.

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Speaker 3: I I actually want them to triple the amount of

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Speaker 3: security that Donald Trump has. I mean, that's one of

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Speaker 3: my thoughts is that that I worry now about something

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Speaker 3: being done to Trump because it is so clear that

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Speaker 3: if it's Trump, the Biden, Trump's gonna win.

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Speaker 4: Well, I do think as well that uh, the odds,

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Speaker 4: the odds that they go for incarceration of Trump based

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Speaker 4: on the New York case are very high, very high.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I I can't tell you that it is

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Speaker 4: a definite, because I think there are still things that

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Speaker 4: are under consideration between now and July eleventh. But they

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Speaker 4: are cornered. I mean there's no you know, I'm not

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Speaker 4: I'm not sitting here trying to say, oh, Joe Biden's

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Speaker 4: doing great. No, they know that this is a disaster.

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Speaker 4: They have no choice. They are cornered. And just like

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Speaker 4: you know, cornered rat is the most dangerous kind a

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Speaker 4: cornered communist very dangerous too. They're gonna go with whatever.

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Speaker 4: And I mean this, you know, unfortunately, ties into what

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Speaker 4: you're saying too, which is that they're crazies out there.

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Speaker 4: But in terms of the Democrat system that you know,

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Speaker 4: meaning the Democrat apparatus, not our democracy, I think that

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Speaker 4: they're gonna they're gonna do whatever it is that they

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Speaker 4: think is going to just shake up this race and

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Speaker 4: change things up, and that could mean trying to throw

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Speaker 4: Trump in prison, which could result in you know, I

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Speaker 4: would think it would result in more and rest on

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Speaker 4: the streets. But actually, I think a lot of Trump

656
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Speaker 4: voters know that he's gonna like there's a belief that

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Speaker 4: he's just going to win, and they don't want to

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Speaker 4: give the Democrats some excuse to go martial law or

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Speaker 4: something crazy. So I don't think that would happen. But

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Speaker 4: I I go to bed now every night thinking when

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Speaker 4: I do think about politics, which I try not to

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Speaker 4: do before I go to sleep. But I think they're

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Speaker 4: gonna lock Donald Trump up for a period of time.

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Speaker 4: I think they may try to make him miss the RNC.

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Speaker 3: I would not be shocked. I mean I said on

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Speaker 3: the show that I thought they would put him in prison.

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Speaker 3: I think this makes it more likely. I'm more worried

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Speaker 3: about his including house arrest. To be clear with this,

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Speaker 3: it might be in a house arrest, or it'd be

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Speaker 3: the same thing.

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Speaker 4: He's not going to be in danger, Like he's not

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Speaker 4: going to be They're not going to put him in

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Speaker 4: general population with with a bunch of you know, MS

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Speaker 4: thirteen members or something like. It's just a question of

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Speaker 4: how nice his surroundings are. I'm more worried about his

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Speaker 4: physical health. Honestly, after this debate because I think it's

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Speaker 4: very self evident that he's going to win, which is

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Speaker 4: why to your point, I see this as hell Mary season.

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Speaker 4: If you want to go with a sports analogy, Democrats

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Speaker 4: can continue to basically play a quarterback with a broken

681
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Speaker 4: arm who can't throw the football, or they can begin

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Speaker 4: the hell Mary process. And I want to see what

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Speaker 4: the polls look like Buck coming out of July fourth,

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Speaker 4: because I think that's going to set off a new

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Speaker 4: round of panic. I also, and this is why I

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Speaker 4: have the entire time, and I really haven't even last night,

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Speaker 4: and I knew what everyone was going to say. We've

688
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Speaker 4: been talking with it all day to day. It's like,

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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, they're gonna pull Biden. First of all,

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Speaker 4: if they were going to pull Biden, I want to

691
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Speaker 4: clear the air on this. The wait until almost July

692
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Speaker 4: to pull Biden, that this was the smoke filled room

693
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Speaker 4: plan is completely insane. It gets harder every month to

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Speaker 4: pull him. It gets harder logistically, it gets harder politically.

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Speaker 4: Waiting until this stage to do this was not It's

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Speaker 4: what I mean is a year ago they weren't like, well,

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Speaker 4: we're just going to have a really early debate and

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Speaker 4: he's gonna flop. No, they are adapting to the reality

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Speaker 4: of what the polls are showing, Clay. They're adapting to

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Speaker 4: the reality of what the response has been to Trump

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Speaker 4: being convicted. I mean a year ago, June in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three, I think everybody thought, oh my gosh, if

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump is convicted of a felony, it's all over.

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Speaker 4: Not the case, not even a little bit. So they're

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Speaker 4: having to scramble. This is not what we just saw

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Speaker 4: on this debate. Was not the long standing plan to

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Speaker 4: replace Biden, because that is crazy, that makes no sense.

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Speaker 3: The Biden team wanted this and they thought. This is

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Speaker 3: why I said it was pass fail. And honestly, I'm

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Speaker 3: stunned that he failed, because yesterday on the show, I

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Speaker 3: said I thought we would have a status quo debate

712
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Speaker 3: the first five minutes my jaw dropped watching that debate

713
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Speaker 3: how bad he was. I think it was a very

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Speaker 3: lenient standard of pass fail, and I think he still failed.

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Speaker 3: Like they had the Bell curve set up where if

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Speaker 3: you get thirty percent of the answers right, you're still

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Speaker 3: considered to pass. He couldn't get that, and so I

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Speaker 3: think there's going to be a full fledged panic set in.

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Speaker 3: Now here's the big challenge to your point, why you

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Speaker 3: can argue on buck Island. And we talked about this

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Speaker 3: during the course of the show quite a bit. Biden

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Speaker 3: has to agree to step down, and Doctor Jill Biden

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Speaker 3: to me, is the real monster here that not a

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Speaker 3: lot of people are spending enough time. She's going full

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Speaker 3: Lady Macbeth in this total she likes living in the

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Speaker 3: white House.

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Speaker 4: She's not too old. She likes living in the white House.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you she's not going anywhere. I know everyone

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Speaker 4: keeps thinking.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The most Important Tier in

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Speaker 1: Politics with Clay Travis end buck Sexton.

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Speaker 4: Some really bad news for Biden going into this debate

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Speaker 4: courtesy of the Washington Post, which is not what you'd

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Speaker 4: be expecting, I think. But we talk a lot here

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Speaker 4: about the very small, by the numbers percentage of voters

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Speaker 4: who are going to be the ones who determine this election,

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Speaker 4: going to be the ones who make the difference in

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Speaker 4: a handful about a half dozen states. And we also

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Speaker 4: look at what the theme the thesis of the Biden

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Speaker 4: reelection campaign is. And I think if you were to

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Speaker 4: have a headline for it, it would be defensive democracy

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Speaker 4: against Trump, and then the subheading would be and also,

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Speaker 4: you know, women's rights, abortion or something like that. But

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Speaker 4: the main thing is this threat to democracy point that

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Speaker 4: democrats are obsessed with. And the data shows that people

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Speaker 4: who are voting Biden, who have decided already, they're voting Biden,

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Speaker 4: their biggest issue is this. They care more about this

748
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 4: amorphous threats to democracy than anything else. That is their

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Speaker 4: primary issue, which is really just a dressed up way.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's important to keep this in mind

751
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Speaker 4: of saying I hate Donald Trump. When they say when

752
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Speaker 4: they speak of threats to democracy, what they really mean

753
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Speaker 4: is using fancy words because I hate Donald Trump. Because

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Speaker 4: it's there's nothing that is un Trump related. Really that

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00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: is the threat to democracy here, and it's just Trump,

756
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Speaker 4: his movement. It's all about Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump Trump. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 4: what happens if all of a sudden, the people who

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Speaker 4: are the most important deciders in this election process are

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Speaker 4: looking at threats to democracy differently and looking at the

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Speaker 4: primary issue that Joe Biden is supposed to be winning over.

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Speaker 4: Clay Washington Post has this. Let me let me just

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Speaker 4: read a little bit from this piece. President Biden and

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Speaker 4: his Democratic allies have cast his reelection campaign as a

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Speaker 4: battle for the country's survival, warning that a second Donald

765
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Speaker 4: Trump presidency would present an existential threat to American democracy

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Speaker 4: in speeches and campaign ads blah blah January sixth, blah

767
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Speaker 4: blah blah blah. Okay, but that message may not be

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Speaker 4: resonating with the voters Biden needs in order to win

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Speaker 4: another term in the White House. In six swing states

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Speaker 4: that Biden narrowly won in twenty twenty, a little more

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Speaker 4: than half of voters classified as likely to decide the

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Speaker 4: presidential election, we can get into what that means say

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Speaker 4: that threats to democracy are extremely important for their vote,

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Speaker 4: yet more of them trust Trump to handle those threats

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Speaker 4: than Biden. The thesis of the Biden keV paid Clay

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Speaker 4: is Trump is a threat to democracy. But the Washington

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Speaker 4: Post in the key states Pennsylvania, Nevada, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 4: Georgia is finding out that undecided and swing voters think

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Speaker 4: that Trump is a better defender of democracy than Biden.

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Speaker 4: And what do you make of this?

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Speaker 3: I think it's a fascinating result. What I make of

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Speaker 3: it is at some point, you can go so far

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Speaker 3: in making an argument that people say it's a little

784
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Speaker 3: bit too far.

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Speaker 2: And I'll give you an example. I think most people

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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 3: Are fine with, for instance, the idea that if it

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Speaker 3: makes a man happier to dress up as a woman,

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Speaker 3: it shouldn't be illegal to do so.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I think most of you out there like, hey, if

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Speaker 3: that guy wants to put on a dress and walk

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Speaker 3: around and pretend to be a woman, I don't think

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Speaker 3: you should get arrested by the police and put in

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Speaker 3: prison or put in jail for doing that. I think

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Speaker 3: most people say, Okay, that's fine, and then every step

797
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Speaker 3: beyond that, fewer people say, hey, yeah, I'm okay with that. Right,

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Speaker 3: you're fine with the individual adult decision. But once you

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Speaker 3: move beyond it, you start to lose support. And I

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Speaker 3: I think probably the majority of people said, you know,

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Speaker 3: what happened on January six shouldn't have happened. I think

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Speaker 3: substantial majorities. And then every step beyond that, Democrats have

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Speaker 3: lost support, and now they've crossed. Trying to put Trump

804
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: in prison kills four many people. I think the idea

805
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Speaker 3: that you're the defender of democracy, yeah, we have to

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Speaker 3: hold people accountable who broke the law. On January sixth,

807
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Speaker 3: most people say, y okay, uh yeah, like Trump, and

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Speaker 3: January sixth was not a proud moment for American democracy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we shouldn't have things like this occurred.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, And it's so bad that we have to

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Speaker 3: put Donald Trump in prison and you shouldn't be able

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Speaker 3: to vote for him for president. That's crossing the rubicon

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Speaker 3: for most voters. So I think they've gone too far.

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Speaker 3: I actually think this applies to abortion too. I think

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Speaker 3: I'm talking general American public. Now, most people in America

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Speaker 3: think there should be exceptions. Right, ten percent disagree, you're

817
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Speaker 3: entitled to all your opinions. Nine month of like ninety

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Speaker 3: percent of Americans are like no, no, no, no, no, no,

819
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Speaker 3: that's too far. And I think Democrats, because they have

820
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Speaker 3: such a coddled media, don't get pushback, and they've gone

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Speaker 3: so far. Do you see the New York Times story

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Speaker 3: today buck that the Biden administration wanted to ensure that

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Speaker 3: miners could get transgender surgery. I think most parents out there,

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Speaker 3: and I'm one, think it's crazy that a fourteen year

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Speaker 3: old girl should get her boobs chopped off. Maybe that's

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Speaker 3: not a choice you want to make right, and they

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Speaker 3: go so far to the extreme. I think the Democrat

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Speaker 3: position has naturally lended itself to extremisties extremism in that respect.

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Speaker 2: That's my take, what's yours? If you think how would

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Speaker 2: you assess it?

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Speaker 4: If you think of the voter groups here that they

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Speaker 4: and I can tell you exactly what the categories are

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Speaker 4: of the deciders they voted in only one of the

834
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Speaker 4: past two presidential elections. Are between ages eighteen and twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five, registered to votes since twenty twenty two, did

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Speaker 4: not definitely plan to vote for either Biden or Trump

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Speaker 4: this year or switch their support between twenty sixteen and

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty, So basically undecided voters may be going to vote,

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Speaker 4: maybe not going to vote voters. I mean, that's you know,

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Speaker 4: this is what these are. These are the you know,

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Speaker 4: the unicorns that we're always looking for. Hey, yeah, would

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Speaker 4: you come over to the party and help us save

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Speaker 4: the country? You know we're and we got some of

844
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Speaker 4: them listening, so please do help save the country. But

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Speaker 4: what I see is if you think of that group

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Speaker 4: in the Swing States as essentially the jury in this

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Speaker 4: instance on threats to democracy and whether or not. The

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Speaker 4: Biden administration is guilty of using law fair to such

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Speaker 4: an extent that it's a clear threat to democracy. I

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Speaker 4: think the jury's verdict at least according to this, this

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Speaker 4: data is in or at least it's going to be

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Speaker 4: in a way that is supportive of Trump. The law

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Speaker 4: that you cannot hold and no one can. There is

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Speaker 4: no defense of this, and this is, I think, more

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Speaker 4: than anything else, makes the whole case. It's so obvious

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Speaker 4: you cannot hold four criminal prosecutions to unleash them in

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Speaker 4: a salvo like in shotgun fashions, you you know, hit

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Speaker 4: the most of the target you can. You cannot hold

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Speaker 4: four criminal prosecutions against Donald Trump, not to mention the

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Speaker 4: civil stuff until an election year time. It so it's

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Speaker 4: all unleashed at the same time in an effort to

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Speaker 4: use the law as a tool to stop a political candidate.

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Speaker 4: Enough people, not even Trump people or Republicans or anything else,

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Speaker 4: enough people in the middle. Clay see this for what

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Speaker 4: it is. If this is correct, meaning this this data

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Speaker 4: plays out at the polls, Biden is done, Trump wins

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Speaker 4: the election. This to me, if this is right, this

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Speaker 4: snapshot and we see this at the polls, in November

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent chance Trump wins.

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Speaker 3: Also at the top of the Washington Post website right now,

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Speaker 3: they have updated twenty twenty four battleground state.

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Speaker 2: Polls, and just to hit you with those as well.

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Speaker 3: North Carolina Trump up four, Nevada Trump up five. By

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Speaker 3: the way, that would be a seven point swing in

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Speaker 3: the state of Nevada compared to what happened in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Arizona Trump up five, Georgia Trump up five. All right,

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Speaker 3: what about the battleground states Michigan Trump up three. That

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Speaker 3: would be a six point swing, Pennsylvania tie, Wisconsin Biden

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Speaker 3: up less than one.

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Speaker 2: What's up with the cheeseheads? Buck?

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Speaker 3: Wisconsin was actually the closest to going for Trump in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty, and honestly, the consistent polling suggests that Biden

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Speaker 3: is strong longer in Wisconsin than he is Pennsylvania or Michigan.

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Speaker 3: That's what I don't understand.

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Speaker 4: I can't I can't look into the crystal ball or

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Speaker 4: even just the data on Michigan. I mean, sorry on

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Speaker 4: a Wisconsin and Whoa and understand why that one is lagging.

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Speaker 4: I'd have to really dig into it. On the on

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Speaker 4: the issues, I can tell you this, Clay, Remember how

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Speaker 4: I said, no one tries to defend this. The Washington

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Speaker 4: Post in this same piece where it has this data

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Speaker 4: that's very troubling for their own side rights. Trump has

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Speaker 4: tried to flip the democracy issue, claiming falsely that he

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Speaker 4: and his allies are facing multiple criminal investigations because Biden

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Speaker 4: is weaponizing the judicial system against him. Enduote. I just

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Speaker 4: want to note, you know, this is where we could

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Speaker 4: say they're saying it's false. Without evidence, they can't prove

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Speaker 4: that Biden isn't doing this. And more to the point,

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Speaker 4: there is a rejection of Democrat prosecutors who are paid

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Speaker 4: in the case of the DOJ Democrat appointees who are

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Speaker 4: all holding this. There is no excuse for what they

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Speaker 4: are doing. There's no excuse for waiting to bring all

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Speaker 4: four of these cases until the election year. These all

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Speaker 4: could have been brought certainly by twenty twenty two the midterms,

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Speaker 4: and no, they they have shown their hand. The game

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Speaker 4: the whole time was let Trump win the primary and

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Speaker 4: then just slam him with all these cases at the

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Speaker 4: same time. And it's blowing up in their faces right now.

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Speaker 4: A lot can happen between now and the election, but

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Speaker 4: their strategy is not working.

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Speaker 3: Looking not only like it's not working like it might

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Speaker 3: be the most devastating own goal in the his modern

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Speaker 3: history of American politics, because it could be that trying

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Speaker 3: to put Trump in prison has directly put him in

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Speaker 3: the White House instead. And for those of you out

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Speaker 3: there who say, and we get this every single time

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Speaker 3: we mentioned new polls, well it's just a poll. I

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Speaker 3: don't know why you're talking about Poles, Paul, This all rigged. Okay,

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Speaker 3: two months from now, the whatever the result is on

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Speaker 3: the ground starts to get baked into the election results.

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Speaker 3: That is, if there's some massive October surprise, a lot

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Speaker 3: of you are already going.

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Speaker 2: To have voted.

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Speaker 3: Remember the biggest takeaway to me of twenty twenty two

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Speaker 3: Fetterman had half of his votes already in before he

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Speaker 3: ever debated doctor Oz. A lot of people recognized afterwards, Man,

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Speaker 3: Fetterman's a lot worse than they were telling us, But

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Speaker 3: they had already voted every single day. Once we get

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Speaker 3: to September, you are chasing a diminishing number of voters.

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Speaker 3: So whatever the snapshot is of the nation at that

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Speaker 3: point in time, only two months from now, is a

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Speaker 3: reflection likely of how the voting will go. I'll also

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Speaker 3: point out Jamal Bowman was a massive underdog. You probably

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Speaker 3: didn't hear that on any other shows in the gambling markets.

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Speaker 3: Gambling markets were like, were right. George Latimer crushed it

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Speaker 3: as the gambling market suggested, if I have to choose

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Speaker 3: between what somebody says on television or what somebody puts

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Speaker 3: their actual money on, I'm going to go with where

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Speaker 3: they're putting their actual money.

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Speaker 2: And the numbers are suggesting that things are breaking for

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Speaker 2: Trump in a really good way.