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Speaker 5: I'm not stelling a monk. I love monk.
Speaker 2: You kids would do well to watch a little monk.
Speaker 1: Maybe you would n't act that way if you watched
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Speaker 2: Chips in your.
Speaker 7: Nails, A qualms are racist.
Speaker 1: The money.
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Speaker 1: Gold all in my chain, gold all in my ring,
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Speaker 2: Don't believe me. Just watch nigga, nigga, nigga. Don't believe me.
Speaker 2: Just watch there it is, there it is.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My
Speaker 1: Mama Told.
Speaker 2: Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the pockets
Speaker 2: of black conspiracy.
Speaker 1: Theories and we finally worked to prove that Lionel Richie
Speaker 1: was only allowed out of his Commodore's contract if he
Speaker 1: agreed to adopt a white child.
Speaker 2: You think they were.
Speaker 1: Letting that that that brilliant man's money go back to
Speaker 1: a black baby, to the black community.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. We're making that white money again.
Speaker 1: It's the only way you're getting out of this Commodore's
Speaker 1: bullshit is make this some white money. And that's what
Speaker 1: they did. I'm like Ston Kerman, I'm.
Speaker 2: David boy, and I've never been more proud to call
Speaker 2: you my co host. It's Julie. What other explanation is there?
Speaker 1: Just two black people adopting a white baby and being like, yep,
Speaker 1: this is what we got going.
Speaker 2: It's I've only ever even heard of it on your
Speaker 2: television show south Side. I've never even heard of it,
Speaker 2: and I know a lot of fucking freaks.
Speaker 1: It's a bald choice, even for a very rich black
Speaker 1: man to be like, I'm gonna get a little white
Speaker 1: girl and keep her.
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: Okay? Here's would you do it? That's I think how
Speaker 2: we need to open this. Would you guys do that? Wow,
Speaker 2: that's a tough question. Would I adopt a white child?
Speaker 5: I would adopt the right kind of white child I
Speaker 5: would adopt. I would say Greek or Italian, I would
Speaker 5: adopt white child.
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that.
Speaker 1: I think Greek sounds nice, a little a little stoppy
Speaker 1: running around.
Speaker 2: That seems nice. But if you get an Eastern European
Speaker 2: he could still bam, oh at you a Luca.
Speaker 5: True.
Speaker 2: And I don't know the prices of babies racially, but
Speaker 2: prices I would maybe not be crazy insane. Then you
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna be honest. The Eastern Europeans seem
Speaker 2: wholesale to me. They seem you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They seem like there's no mark up. You just hit
Speaker 1: them for what they're worth. And and that's the deal.
Speaker 1: Anywhere you go.
Speaker 5: I think you're play a dangerous game. I think you
Speaker 5: have a fifty to fifty chance if you adopt an
Speaker 5: Eastern European person they're going to be a vampire.
Speaker 2: Because that's the worry. That's man, right, two minutes in
Speaker 2: you're already tracking. That is the worry.
Speaker 1: They're calling you Papa, and they're biting your neck, and
Speaker 1: now you're in trouble.
Speaker 2: Yeah I got you, but now I got a vampire
Speaker 2: on the team. Oh, you're saying you can.
Speaker 1: You can weaponize this vampire. You can make them into
Speaker 1: into something else.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm saying that he will have a love
Speaker 2: of his father that will propel him to help his
Speaker 2: father out when his father is in need. Much like you,
Speaker 2: When are you going to be in need of a vampire?
Speaker 2: Broy eyes coming around? I don't know what's about to happen.
Speaker 5: Fair, you're imagining kind of a dexter situation where trainer
Speaker 5: monster child.
Speaker 2: Whoa you suld monster? First of all European, you're putting
Speaker 2: these labels all my boy. No, we agree on vampire.
Speaker 5: We agreed on vampire, and.
Speaker 1: I think that qualifies as monster. I'm here with Vinnie.
Speaker 1: I don't we should introduce our guests. We haven't even
Speaker 1: bothered introducing him. We immediately launched into speculations about the
Speaker 1: prices of white babies and vampires. But but our guest
Speaker 1: today is so funny. We're both big fans of his.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: He's a comedian, he's an actor, he's a writer, and
Speaker 1: you can see him currently on on Platonic on Apple
Speaker 1: TV plus. Give it up for the hilarious Vinnie Thomas.
Speaker 2: Everybody that was more ominous than it felt.
Speaker 5: It was just they told me to expect sounds, and
Speaker 5: I still was not prepared, I think, emotionally, spiritual, or
Speaker 5: physically for sound to occur. And I'm going to do
Speaker 5: that in the future.
Speaker 2: That's the hard part.
Speaker 1: It happens at any time, and there's no real way
Speaker 1: to prepare for that feeling. We grow when we're uncomfortable. Venny,
Speaker 1: we're excited you're here. You came to us with the
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that I actually was surprised we had never
Speaker 1: covered before. It's such a it's such a formative conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: I think in my childhood that I almost think I
Speaker 1: overlooked it because of how much it felt ubiquitous with
Speaker 1: my own upbringing. But you said, my mama told me.
Speaker 2: If your right ear is pierced, that means you're gay. Yeah.
Speaker 5: True, that's all true. Everything you said is true. I
Speaker 5: think by the time I was in school that that
Speaker 5: conspiracy theory it was starting to kind of drift away
Speaker 5: a little bit, right, But there's always that thing in
Speaker 5: the back of your head is like which year is
Speaker 5: a homosexual ear? Which year is the heterosexual ear? Ultimately
Speaker 5: I could not remember which is which, so.
Speaker 1: Which when maybe is the gayest thing you can do,
Speaker 1: not remembering that mean.
Speaker 5: For yeah, one thing about gay people is we have
Speaker 5: Ambiesia was gay? Oh my god? Yeah, dorry from finding Nemo,
Speaker 5: lesbian fish, short term laws. This is all try.
Speaker 2: So my question is first, because I know we all
Speaker 2: heard it. Did you guys believe it? Vinnie?
Speaker 1: I'll let you answer that first, because I do have
Speaker 1: an answer. I don't want to override.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I believed it, but I still
Speaker 5: was terrified of getting one ear pierced versus the other
Speaker 5: because I wasn't sure which was which. You don't believe it,
Speaker 5: but you do trust that other people will believe it,
Speaker 5: perhaps people who are bigger and stronger than you. And
Speaker 5: I think that alone is stilled the kind of belief
Speaker 5: that sense.
Speaker 2: I feel almost exactly the same.
Speaker 1: I didn't believe it for a second, but I was like,
Speaker 1: all these niggas do, so who am I? Who am
Speaker 1: I to jet against their own research? Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make sure I get the correct one, Pierce, so that
Speaker 1: no associations.
Speaker 5: Yeah are It's not the smart who inherit the earth.
Speaker 5: It's the brutal and stupid, and they make the decisions.
Speaker 2: Bory did you believe it when you were a young lad.
Speaker 2: I think I believed it in the way that I
Speaker 2: believed a lot of things. I was told of this
Speaker 2: like of this kind of type where it's like, maybe
Speaker 2: there's something going on that I don't know, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like I was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: what they do that could be. Like I didn't have
Speaker 2: my ears pierced. It definitely wasn't something I was like
Speaker 2: worried about either way. But I think that I thought
Speaker 2: that culture. Maybe it's culture, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Maybe there's like the story behind it. But I thought
Speaker 2: that I thought that. I definitely think I thought it
Speaker 2: came from somewhere.
Speaker 5: I will say I I was not out in school
Speaker 5: and I didn't have my ears pierced at all because
Speaker 5: my parents thought piercings were disgusting. They still do, I
Speaker 5: don't know what about piercings and tattoos and still kind
Speaker 5: of a visceral disgust in their minds.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, you don't mean disgusting in like a
Speaker 1: shameful way. You may literally like I think there's like
Speaker 1: gag reflected.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it truly. It produces a sound in them that
Speaker 5: is like a kind of scoff like what kind of
Speaker 5: like a you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Are your parents a what older?
Speaker 5: No, but my mom My mom is white, but Italian white,
Speaker 5: and her mother is from Italy like the old country,
Speaker 5: and so there's a lot kind of wrapped up in there.
Speaker 5: I guess my dad's a military guy, so I think
Speaker 5: any kind of departure from you know, having regular ears
Speaker 5: was was weird for him. But I did get one
Speaker 5: of your peers. It wasn't the right one, guy, but
Speaker 5: I did get one of your peers.
Speaker 2: Still blew it.
Speaker 5: I still blew.
Speaker 1: You me, bro brother, we both the piercing.
Speaker 2: I did it.
Speaker 1: I guess I, in theory chose correctly for myself. But
Speaker 1: that said, it all was very rooted in a fear
Speaker 1: of like, yo, I hope I don't get made fun of.
Speaker 5: Yeah, here's the thing. When I went to get a pierce,
Speaker 5: I went with a friend and he got his. He
Speaker 5: got his rightier piers and I got my left ear
Speaker 5: pears because we weren't sure which is which and we
Speaker 5: wanted to cover the basis.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. That's insane.
Speaker 1: That's genuinely insane for y'all not to like call it
Speaker 1: off that day and go check.
Speaker 2: And just be like, I'll do one, you do the other.
Speaker 2: Good luck. My nigga is crazy.
Speaker 5: One of us was gonna be right. You understand, one
Speaker 5: of us was gonna be right.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful kind.
Speaker 1: Of That's the closest thing to homophobic Russian roulette I've
Speaker 1: ever heard in my life.
Speaker 5: And as a direct result on gay and that is
Speaker 5: what happened.
Speaker 2: That day that a lot of people think you're born
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 5: That you just said Claire's was really fucked up?
Speaker 2: Was it not a Claire's I didn't get my ears piercedetic.
Speaker 5: I'd be terrified when they used the same hole punching
Speaker 5: that they used to like punch tags in Heffer's in
Speaker 5: their farming. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I got news.
Speaker 1: I'm a Claire's man, through and through that.
Speaker 2: Let's go Claire's gay, Claire's gay, Claire's gay, Claire's get
Speaker 2: the money dog.
Speaker 5: Let you let a teenager stab through your ear and Claire's.
Speaker 2: Stab it was.
Speaker 1: It was a little gun that they put to your
Speaker 1: ear with a person who clearly doesn't know how it's worked.
Speaker 1: It works, or it could not replicate the same hole,
Speaker 1: even if they wanted to it.
Speaker 2: Was it was a huge mistake. Of course, that's not
Speaker 2: the right way to do it.
Speaker 1: But but I'm of a generation where I think I'm
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old, we didn't have the option to
Speaker 1: go anywhere professional You went to Claire's or your mom
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna take you anywhere at all.
Speaker 5: Your mom took you to get your ear peers.
Speaker 2: That's right, she was a nice lady. I do feel like,
Speaker 2: and maybe this is this, there's part of this, like
Speaker 2: just a lack of awareness, But I do feel like
Speaker 2: when I was young, there were not nearly as many
Speaker 2: places specifically to go for piercings. Like I don't feel
Speaker 2: like it was always the tattoo piercing shop combo type
Speaker 2: of thing. So I do feel like there was Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I do feel like there was less. I do feel
Speaker 2: like there were less places to go to get it pierced. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you, if you were a real man, you went
Speaker 1: to players and you pre did it.
Speaker 2: On the bus.
Speaker 1: If you were you pretended it wasn't a business filled
Speaker 1: with children's jewelry.
Speaker 2: You you acted like you belong there.
Speaker 5: Did y'all have those friends who did it themselves who
Speaker 5: like they heat it up a needle with a fire
Speaker 5: and like stuck it through. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: they had terrible infections. Every time I hear someone tell
Speaker 5: me about that and they're like, I was oozing. Afterwards,
Speaker 5: I'm like, what the are you talking about? You were oozing?
Speaker 5: They were like affected that. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: Brother, If your ear looks like it makes a ninja turtle,
Speaker 1: you did something wrong. That's not how it's supposed to go.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: If it.
Speaker 1: So so, you obviously bought into the stereotype. You bought
Speaker 1: into this conspiracy theory despite what ultimately ended up being.
Speaker 1: You ended up being a queer person despite that. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like there were ever were there people in
Speaker 1: your life that ever told you otherwise? Was there ever
Speaker 1: a brave soul who stepped up and was like, Vinnie,
Speaker 1: that's silly.
Speaker 2: Be who you want to be. Pierce whatever ear you
Speaker 2: want to pierce.
Speaker 5: No, absolutely not. Sometimes. I mean I had an older brother,
Speaker 5: do you know what I mean? I would talk about
Speaker 5: piercing my ear and he'd be like, you better make
Speaker 5: sure you flip the coin the right way. Dangerous game.
Speaker 1: Again, it does not have to be a coin flip.
Speaker 1: You could have just researched.
Speaker 5: With someone else and you each have to get one.
Speaker 5: That's the way it works research. There's there's no way
Speaker 5: to know.
Speaker 7: Nah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't have anyone who was actively like fighting
Speaker 5: against it. I feel like it just wasn't as ubiquitous.
Speaker 5: I feel like this is a very nineties conspiracy theory,
Speaker 5: kind of a nineties early two thousands conspiracy, and it's
Speaker 5: it's since started to trail off because now I feel
Speaker 5: like young guys they got Young guys now are guys
Speaker 5: who would have been considered very gay, like back in
Speaker 5: the day in school, you know what I mean. They
Speaker 5: got like, yeah, mushroom haircuts and dangly like cross earrings
Speaker 5: and stuff.
Speaker 2: So my little brother wears two dangling earrings. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The stress I would have had wearing this colored shirt
Speaker 1: throughout most of my childhood was brother so heavy.
Speaker 2: Before Cameron Freda's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would fusia my nigga. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I'm walking into with this? I don't have the strength.
Speaker 1: Better be a goddamn school color.
Speaker 5: We better be fighting fusion tigers or I'll absolutely You know.
Speaker 2: What's funny to me about this conspiracy is like what
Speaker 2: a terrible signal if it was, because I always thought
Speaker 2: about it as it was trying to keep like a
Speaker 2: like a secret society type of you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like it was it was supposed to be a secret signal.
Speaker 2: What a terrible signal? What I think You don't think
Speaker 2: it's a great signal. No, we It's like if you're
Speaker 2: trying to keep something. See I could just look at
Speaker 2: your face the first thing I look at and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's good. Like it's not, you know.
Speaker 7: What I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not.
Speaker 1: Here's why I thought it was a better idea. Maybe
Speaker 1: this is my own stupidity. It always takes me a
Speaker 1: minute to remember which ear is left and which ear
Speaker 1: is right when I'm facing somebody. So it's like, ah,
Speaker 1: you got to sit there and do math, and after
Speaker 1: you don't want to finish the math, so you just
Speaker 1: ignore it and you move on with your life. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it's subtle. It's very subtle.
Speaker 5: I feel like this has to have come from gay
Speaker 5: people in I don't know, the seventies, maybe earlier than that.
Speaker 5: They had they had a language, they had secret little signals,
Speaker 5: and it was you know, it was gay years it
Speaker 5: was the hanky code. It was all of this that
Speaker 5: now is impossible to understand, Like to me, it doesn't
Speaker 5: make any sense. But back then every homosexual had to
Speaker 5: be like a Navajo code talker and like a secret breakdown,
Speaker 5: like some hidden dialogue. And now it's like, oh shit,
Speaker 5: you guys aren't hidden at all, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, grinder used to be. You just got to break
Speaker 1: a branch off of this tree and walk into the
Speaker 1: alley wait for somebody to notice.
Speaker 2: Uh, it is interesting you said the hanky code, because
Speaker 2: I remember when I first moved to San Francisco that
Speaker 2: was like a big thing, but it was forever. It
Speaker 2: was like the color and the placement said what you
Speaker 2: were into. But I knew a lot of very boring
Speaker 2: people who also used it, like they really co opted that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, some people with the hanky code. I don't think
Speaker 5: you need a hanky for like missionary and eye contact,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, do something nasty with this? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Did I I'm curious to know how much you felt
Speaker 1: like something like this slowed your ability to finding your
Speaker 1: queer self, to fully coming out and feeling sort of
Speaker 1: settled in whoever you are despite you know, the right
Speaker 1: or wrong ear piercing quote unquote.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think the the ear piercing. I
Speaker 5: don't think the ear piercing sloughed. I think it was
Speaker 5: an eventuality that I was going to get my ear pierced,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Ultimately, I do think it
Speaker 5: was destiny. And at the end of the day, I
Speaker 5: don't know if I don't think I ever absolutely believed
Speaker 5: that what you're afraid of is other people's reaction to it,
Speaker 5: not necessarily the thing itself. I think it was more
Speaker 5: afraid of having a hole punched in me, which on
Speaker 5: the face of it, is a completely ridiculous thing to
Speaker 5: do for what so you can stick something in there?
Speaker 5: It doesn't even make any sense, do you know what
Speaker 5: I mean? Human behavior is just kind of odd to
Speaker 5: begin with. Yeah, I think it was more scared of
Speaker 5: getting my ear pierced than being perceived as a gay
Speaker 5: guy with his ears pierced. And no, I don't think
Speaker 5: the ear pierce theory had any effect at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice. There's something nice that it did. Nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is because you fear that like this is
Speaker 1: somehow an inhibitor to people sort of being able to explore,
Speaker 1: to find themselves as it were, and so like, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: if if a bunch of the deeply rooted homophobia from
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties did not break anyone's brains, I
Speaker 1: take solace in that. That makes me feel warm inside.
Speaker 5: Oh damn, Come on, sir.
Speaker 1: All right, don't want to be ampho again to protect
Speaker 1: myself because I'm also a coward. All right, We're gonna
Speaker 1: take a break and when we come back, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk more ear piercing right and wrong, right and left,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Uh, And it's more
Speaker 1: of any Thomas more my mama told me, My mama
Speaker 1: told me. Since the start to Steal tour, we're very
Speaker 1: excited about it. Yeah, I'm not about to bite my tongue.
Speaker 1: We want to sell it out and the dates are
Speaker 1: coming up fast, and so if you live in one
Speaker 1: of these areas, we want you to buy your tickets now.
Speaker 1: It's all available on our instagrams, on our websites, on
Speaker 1: our link tree. But October seventeenth, we're in La in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: We'll be in Atlanta on Halloween October thirty. First November one,
Speaker 1: we're in Houston, November two, Austin, November three, Dallas. We're
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. On November seventh, We're in Somerville, Massachusetts. It's Boston, bitch,
Speaker 1: get over it. November eighth, November tenth, we're in Philly.
Speaker 1: November seventeenth, we're in San Francisco. We want y'all to
Speaker 1: come out. We want y'all to kick it. We will
Speaker 1: be doing our coveted live show with special guests, with
Speaker 1: just me and David. Depending on the city, It'll be
Speaker 1: a great time.
Speaker 2: All that meet and greets you've been Chris Brown has
Speaker 2: a good meet and greet.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 3: Let's be clear, I'll take a weird picture with you
Speaker 3: for free.
Speaker 2: Back it on up to our conversation about ear piercings.
Speaker 2: Left right, gay, straight, who knows? Who cares? Who knows?
Speaker 2: Who cares? That?
Speaker 1: So your parents are disgusted by it? What was their
Speaker 1: reaction upon saying that you had gotten your ear pierced?
Speaker 5: First of all, I just like to acknowledge David's left right,
Speaker 5: gay straight who cares? Which truly sounds like an RFK
Speaker 5: junior campaigns logan.
Speaker 1: But with a shitty voice, and we'll buy in.
Speaker 5: Then I'll listen to God. I think they've they've they've
Speaker 5: calmed down a lot. I think it was when we
Speaker 5: were kids they were very like their reaction to every
Speaker 5: now and then my brother or I would float the
Speaker 5: idea of getting a tattoo or getting a piercing, and
Speaker 5: my mom would be like, why would you Why would
Speaker 5: you do that? Why would you mar your skin? And
Speaker 5: since then my brother's got like he has a giant
Speaker 5: half sleeve. And now I have my little hitty bitty piercing,
Speaker 5: which I think they use for like babies or something.
Speaker 5: That's the smallest beer thing in the world. I have
Speaker 5: one of those hearts that you give like like you
Speaker 5: give a baby a year after it's born.
Speaker 1: You like, yeah, we don't know who you are yet,
Speaker 1: so here's something to remind us that you're alive a.
Speaker 5: Little place older. Now they've chilled out, I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think they're cool enough with it now. I think
Speaker 5: if I asked my mom she would she would definitely
Speaker 5: prefer it. I didn't get it, But what do I
Speaker 5: care about her? He's not a gay guy.
Speaker 2: Let's go Bory. Do your parents give a ship? Does
Speaker 2: your mom? Is she an advocate? Is she anti? Where
Speaker 2: is she? Oh? No shed at all, which is funny
Speaker 2: because now I'm thinking about it. Yeah, it would have
Speaker 2: made no difference. I don't know what I was worried about.
Speaker 1: As far as her judgment would have made because you
Speaker 1: wanted to do it, or.
Speaker 2: There's like there's other fashion things I could have done
Speaker 2: that she would have been a lot more upset about
Speaker 2: than the.
Speaker 5: Gay Year, Like what kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, just like going out being ashy.
Speaker 2: She hates that. It's just that's not really, that's not
Speaker 2: really it was. It's not like she rather to be
Speaker 2: well presented, classic fashion taboo. Being ashy is what she'd
Speaker 2: be upset about.
Speaker 5: Not you know, sometimes I'll go to the beach and
Speaker 5: I'm just ashy on the right side, to let them know.
Speaker 2: The right.
Speaker 1: That means I want to have sex in the water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an adepted hanky coat. Really, Yeah, as.
Speaker 5: On the right with a gray hanky also on the
Speaker 5: white side. I feel like there are worse things I
Speaker 5: could have done, Like I think an earring is so tame.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's a kind of surgical invention, and
Speaker 5: on the scale of surgical invention, like I could have
Speaker 5: gotten those insane lip fillers that make it so your
Speaker 5: upper lip can't move, you know what I mean? Right?
Speaker 5: Or like, what are people doing now getting their bucle
Speaker 5: fat remove and they look like corpses? I could have
Speaker 5: done that.
Speaker 2: You know it's your buckle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the bukle fat fellas fellas your bule fat yeaes
Speaker 5: right here on your cheeks and people are getting it
Speaker 5: sucked out so they look like whoa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just handsome squid word all the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, handsome squidword face. You get it sucked right out.
Speaker 5: I don't know where they put it.
Speaker 2: Whoa, it's none of that.
Speaker 1: No, that's nobody, none of my business.
Speaker 2: Where they put it, that's hippo.
Speaker 1: You don't violate that. Now you take it out, we
Speaker 1: talk about it. But if you where you put it,
Speaker 1: that's hipp what but yeah to all that, my mom
Speaker 1: would be much more angry about that. What about you?
Speaker 1: Uh no, My mom literally took me to go get
Speaker 1: uh oh, my piercing. My mom consented for me to
Speaker 1: get a tattoo when I was sixteen, which was a
Speaker 1: massive mistake like and remains stupid on my arm to
Speaker 1: this day.
Speaker 5: Tattoo, what does it say? Like hustle hustle.
Speaker 1: Okay, you want to hear how bad of a choice
Speaker 1: I made. I've never told this story before.
Speaker 5: This is this Kelly Kelly.
Speaker 2: It is. It's a big old picture of R.
Speaker 1: Kelly and it says, no matter what he does, I'm
Speaker 1: a fan. Uh No, it's so. My first tattoo. I
Speaker 1: used to do performance poetry, and I for at sixteen
Speaker 1: years old, was playing with the idea of going by
Speaker 1: the stage name language Arts. You know, Langston Langston becomes
Speaker 1: Language Arts, I swear to God and I I then
Speaker 1: went to arguably the most amateur tattoo artist in all
Speaker 1: of my community, and I took my step father, my
Speaker 1: then stepfather's drawing of a microphone that then the microphone
Speaker 1: chord turned into writing that said, you guessed it language
Speaker 1: And I took it to that amateur artist and I said,
Speaker 1: put this as big as you can on my on
Speaker 1: my right arm, please, And boy did he.
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 2: Devil's Advocate. You can get behind that, bro, I assure
Speaker 2: you you can't. It wasn't done well enough. It didn't
Speaker 2: look cool, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like all of it was a mistake in every way,
Speaker 1: shape or form.
Speaker 5: You gotta go to the right places you gotta find
Speaker 5: and grow sees that and she's like, you know, I
Speaker 5: could speak a language that's enough.
Speaker 1: I truly had a bunch of God hearing women around
Speaker 1: me who were like, you, you should not have done this, sir.
Speaker 1: This is not gonna make us fuck you at all.
Speaker 5: God language sounds like a woman at church telling you
Speaker 5: not to swear. It just it sounds like a warning.
Speaker 2: It was like.
Speaker 1: It was I really thought I was doing something, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I really thought I was
Speaker 1: Like no, I.
Speaker 2: Thought, process though, is the thing I see where? It
Speaker 2: like if it was just a little too far over here,
Speaker 2: if it was just a little back, it would have
Speaker 2: been the coolest shit ever.
Speaker 5: But when I was a kid, when I was in
Speaker 5: high school, I saved up enough money to get a
Speaker 5: class ring and I wanted to get the word kraavi
Speaker 5: written on the side, which is like Latin for I create.
Speaker 5: But I get the ring. The letters are so close
Speaker 5: together it looks like cream. I said. So I saved
Speaker 5: up all his money to get this ring and it
Speaker 5: looks like it says cream, and I couldn't wear it.
Speaker 5: The first thing, my friend said, friend Gustava, he looks
Speaker 5: at it. He goes, what does cream mean?
Speaker 2: What the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 5: Talking about?
Speaker 2: This is Latin. I create. I'm an artist.
Speaker 1: She's like, Nah, that's cream, dog, that's cream. This cream
Speaker 1: get the money because if not, you're weird as fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Cream King of Eastern Colorado.
Speaker 1: Was damn the cream King. We got to add that
Speaker 1: to your intro over.
Speaker 3: He's locally known as the cream King of East Colorado.
Speaker 1: I did a little bit of research Cream King that
Speaker 1: I'd love to go over with you. Phil reied to
Speaker 1: agree with the disagree with it. Truly, none of this
Speaker 1: means anything. But one of the things that there was
Speaker 1: a quote that I guess I had never heard the
Speaker 1: official quote, but I guess the official slogan for this
Speaker 1: was left is right and right is wrong. I don't
Speaker 1: know if y'all ever heard it phrase so sort of
Speaker 1: eighty succinctly, but that was sort of the phrase I
Speaker 1: guess that circulated around this theory.
Speaker 5: Wait, can I ask did you read did you read
Speaker 5: the same Queerity article where there's like, there's a guy
Speaker 5: on a bench holding a rainbow flag and his faces
Speaker 5: collapsed into his hands. Because I looked up just as
Speaker 5: a preliminary thing. I was like, you know, and the
Speaker 5: quarity popped up. One of the first pictures is this
Speaker 5: guy holding a little rainbow flag in his hand. He's
Speaker 5: sitting on a bus bench like this, and it's one
Speaker 5: of the funniest things.
Speaker 2: I say, I did not.
Speaker 1: See that, but boy, do I want to please send
Speaker 1: it to us, because my God, does that What a
Speaker 1: silly thing to be, like, we're gonna show a gay person,
Speaker 1: but they're not having fun with it at all.
Speaker 5: What's the point?
Speaker 1: The left is right and right is wrong was supposedly
Speaker 1: the the slogan that was circulating, and the theory took
Speaker 1: the rise took its rise in the eighties and early nineties.
Speaker 2: Which is sort of odd.
Speaker 1: A more recent study shows that a list, a company
Speaker 1: that sort of tracks online shopping behavior, says that men
Speaker 1: getting ear rings rose by one hundred and forty seven
Speaker 1: percent from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three. So
Speaker 1: we're being a massive uptick compared to what I guess
Speaker 1: generally generationally it used to be.
Speaker 5: Did y'all ever hear that it might have started in prison?
Speaker 5: I feel like everything where it was like mighty gay
Speaker 5: was like, oh, someone would make up a myth where
Speaker 5: it started, Like when people would sack their pants. They're like,
Speaker 5: you know what that means, he's sexually receptive.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't even you know if that's true at all.
Speaker 5: I think maybe you just made that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's just a deep, deep fear that
Speaker 1: you're associating with another deep deep fear. You're like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to go to jail, and I gotta find
Speaker 1: ways of making it so that everything could send me
Speaker 1: to jail or make me jail gay whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I also it's kind of weird to me that the
Speaker 5: right side is the wrong side in this context because
Speaker 5: this I feel like the left side is traditionally that's
Speaker 5: the bad side, right, Like I didn't go to Catholic school,
Speaker 5: but didn't People in Catholic school used to get their
Speaker 5: left and beaten if they use the left hand, because
Speaker 5: that's that's the Devil's quadrant? Is the left part of
Speaker 5: your body?
Speaker 2: As a lifelong leftie, yes, ah no, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm left handed. Yeah, I didn't know that. They
Speaker 2: tried to teach me how to write right. Oh, they
Speaker 2: like really tried to fix you. Yeah yeah, yeah, mama,
Speaker 2: my mam had to come in and be like, you're
Speaker 2: a stupid person. My genius baby boy is left handy,
Speaker 2: he's gifted, he's brilliant. I think they were just really,
Speaker 2: really well, They were really willing to crash out on
Speaker 2: the idea of like, I don't know, man, he's eating glue,
Speaker 2: he's trying to write with his left hand. We got
Speaker 2: to get him out of here. I got you.
Speaker 1: It was that you were writing brilliant sonnets with your
Speaker 1: left hand. You were being I was also throwing a
Speaker 1: lot of rocks. Yeah, lady, we got problems.
Speaker 2: Here's a list.
Speaker 1: And your mom was like, well, he could be left handed,
Speaker 1: he could be left handed.
Speaker 2: Alone about that.
Speaker 5: Left hand contains multitude violence on those five fingers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think this massive uptick sort of speaks
Speaker 1: to what you were talking about before, Vinnie of a
Speaker 1: different generation, right, Like even when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I got my I got my left ear, Piers, but
Speaker 1: I also knew better quote unquote better than to get
Speaker 1: both ears, Piers. I think that was also considered like
Speaker 1: gay when I was a kid, to some extent, and.
Speaker 2: There was a weird crossover period. Yeah, I remember that too.
Speaker 2: There was a weird crossover period where it was like,
Speaker 2: because it feels like we're a little how old are.
Speaker 5: You, Vinnie twenty eight?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we can relate. Uh no, the same same.
Speaker 1: Hey man, hey man, I love blue Eto. All right, listen,
Speaker 1: there was a.
Speaker 2: Weird dad, the mom. They're all great.
Speaker 5: You know their names.
Speaker 2: I don't know their names.
Speaker 5: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: I do want to say though, that to that point,
Speaker 2: I do remember being really really young and having an
Speaker 2: earring being kind of more of a statement, and then
Speaker 2: being having an earring being normalized, but having two being weird,
Speaker 2: and then that transition because it was like you have
Speaker 2: to be real fly to pull that shit off at first.
Speaker 2: Two earrings.
Speaker 5: Pluctuations of culture so fascinating because at one point, like
Speaker 5: it was the high femme like princes, you know, performers
Speaker 5: of the world that like they were, you know, allegedly
Speaker 5: the kind of the sexual icons for what a man
Speaker 5: would look, you know what I mean, Like they were
Speaker 5: super famous. Yeah, and you know, quote unquote straight, but
Speaker 5: they all had like earrings, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: both ears whatever, they were done the fuck up.
Speaker 1: One of Prince's album covers is him butt naked sitting
Speaker 1: like an angel. You know what I mean, on top
Speaker 1: of clouds and covering his chest and penis, and he
Speaker 1: got so much pussy from that. He got an insane
Speaker 1: amount of pussy off of that.
Speaker 2: And that doesn't make sense. They really let a wolf
Speaker 2: from the henhouse on that one. But he's such a
Speaker 2: cute wolf.
Speaker 5: Well, the fact you went up from fox to wolf
Speaker 5: and he says everything.
Speaker 2: I think he would describe himself the same way.
Speaker 1: To your point about sort of like the generational changes.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I researched or read is
Speaker 1: it talks about how for thousands of years more than
Speaker 1: just like since the eighties, for literally thousands of years,
Speaker 1: it was more popular or at least as popular for
Speaker 1: men to be wearing jewelry as their female counterparts. That
Speaker 1: for royalty especially, they would put on lots of jewelry,
Speaker 1: lots of they would have ear rings, they would wear
Speaker 1: high heels were originally developed for men to be able
Speaker 1: to look taller.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 5: At some point you have to wear a lot of
Speaker 5: jewelry to distract from the inbreeding qualities of your face. Sure,
Speaker 5: it's the Habsburgs would have to put on sapphires on
Speaker 5: their ears so you didn't see what was going on
Speaker 5: between the Sapphires.
Speaker 2: I got this big ass change, so you don't see
Speaker 2: my big ass chin.
Speaker 5: In the sun. So the Gli distracts.
Speaker 1: By Fuck today, I really look like my parents are cousins.
Speaker 1: I need some ears something, because fuck I look crazy.
Speaker 2: It also does feel very if you just think about
Speaker 2: it on the whole, it feels very American and very Christian.
Speaker 2: The idea of not allowing that to men. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, It feels very puritanical, very like
Speaker 2: I don't even think of it. I don't see why
Speaker 2: it would be particularly feminine even, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I think it's a part of men. It's a part
Speaker 5: of men are Dirty culture, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Where it's like if a man isn't disgusting, he's not
Speaker 5: a man. I think it's an extension of that where
Speaker 5: it's like if you're not you know, bruised, filthy, and
Speaker 5: you know you don't care at all, which you look like,
Speaker 5: then you are actually a lady.
Speaker 2: H Yeah, which which I think. I don't think people
Speaker 2: whose whole sense of humor still revolves around that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, A lot of stand up comics.
Speaker 1: Brother, I think if we if we can pull this
Speaker 1: out a little bit to almost a bird's eye view,
Speaker 1: it does seem like a lot of this sort of
Speaker 1: like damage that we're doing to each other comes from
Speaker 1: at least some version of like a monarchy to a
Speaker 1: the crossover of monarchy and capitalist societies, right where like
Speaker 1: the wealthy can do whatever the fuck they want, but
Speaker 1: we have to find ways to keep poor people sort
Speaker 1: of locked in their poverty. And so you make these
Speaker 1: weird associations where you look dusty on purpose just to
Speaker 1: be able to prove your value in society.
Speaker 5: And a really interesting correlation to that is that kind
Speaker 5: of the uber rich pop stars nigga wear whatever they want,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, bracelets, it truly doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: But at that same time, the people, the normal people,
Speaker 5: the proletariat, if you will, oh, could not wear your flexibility?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is.
Speaker 1: You have to remain malleable when you do not have
Speaker 1: the resources to survive completely off of your own you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, You just weigh up and you
Speaker 1: get to eat, so you gotta you gotta stay fucking flexible.
Speaker 1: You can't afford to show up with signals that sort
Speaker 1: of make people question your value here.
Speaker 2: I think we did it well. I got a few
Speaker 2: more things I want to run past you guys.
Speaker 1: One of the things that that also came up in
Speaker 1: all of this is that and David, you sort of
Speaker 1: spoke to the americanness of this. It turns out in
Speaker 1: Russia it's the exact opposite that. In Russia it's the
Speaker 1: right ear that you get pierced if you want to
Speaker 1: signal to people that you like fuck bitches and not
Speaker 1: uh and not fuck around with dudes. It's like a
Speaker 1: warning signal in Russia to that like, hey.
Speaker 2: This guy's gonna get some pussy watch out.
Speaker 1: Don't know that, Hey watch out, fellas, it's a pussy
Speaker 1: hound here. But more warning to gay men being like
Speaker 1: hey no, no, no, not over here.
Speaker 2: With that kind of that, that's even funnier because that
Speaker 2: feels even more so. Let me just make sure they know.
Speaker 2: I mean, they could look at me, I'm dirty as hell.
Speaker 5: But I feel like when it goes that far, it
Speaker 5: goes from you better not to you better not like
Speaker 5: big point. At some point it becomes you want them
Speaker 5: to interact with you. You know, you're begging for them
Speaker 5: to have some sort of confidence. He's like I hope
Speaker 5: we don't have to wrestle, you know, like you just
Speaker 5: waiting for a confrontation the ladies.
Speaker 8: Guys in here, I don't bet if there's one in here,
Speaker 8: better not it's all oiled up.
Speaker 2: And find a ship. Realizing here, I'm gonna be mad.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna grab that neck.
Speaker 2: Must record if they also talk about it.
Speaker 1: In one of the articles I read that that China
Speaker 1: similarly associated the right with heterosexuality rather than homosexuality, but
Speaker 1: has since banned ear piercings completely.
Speaker 2: They were, like, I think.
Speaker 1: Probably suffering the same thing you were suffering with your friends,
Speaker 1: Like we.
Speaker 2: Don't know which is which.
Speaker 1: None of y'all motherfuckers get to do it now, was it?
Speaker 2: We can't get on the same page. I'm taking it
Speaker 2: from everybody.
Speaker 5: Maybe that would have been a better policy. I don't know,
Speaker 5: because if they if they did opposite ears for each
Speaker 5: like as soon as a baby boy is born, they
Speaker 5: do right or left, right or left, they end up
Speaker 5: with a fifty to fifty gay population, and that's ultimately
Speaker 5: not gonna work out in the long run.
Speaker 2: Can't do that.
Speaker 1: We already got too many, too many girls as it is.
Speaker 1: We we we got problems. We can't focus on this.
Speaker 1: No more ear piercings. All right, we need to take
Speaker 1: one more break. But when we come back, I have
Speaker 1: a little bit more research. I want to run past
Speaker 1: you guys that I think is going to illuminate this
Speaker 1: conversation ever more. So we'll be back with more Vannie
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Speaker 2: a good meet and gree bro, let's be clear.
Speaker 3: I'll take a weird picture with you for free.
Speaker 5: Pot my butt, pop, pop my butt, Pot my butt, pop,
Speaker 5: pot my butt.
Speaker 1: Do you know what pot my butt meant to Harriet Tubman?
Speaker 5: Do you know what that meant?
Speaker 2: It meant a whip and we are back whipping y'all
Speaker 2: into shape on.
Speaker 5: This Pop my butt, Pop pop my butt.
Speaker 1: It's just very funny that she made her read her
Speaker 1: own lyrics, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, it's awesome.
Speaker 5: You gonna watch that video. It's her mirthless grin. It's like,
Speaker 5: but hop mine butt.
Speaker 1: But like, why do you have to read your own lyrics?
Speaker 1: You're lyrics, baby girl? Just say I'm out loud, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And honestly own it. Wrap that ship. You should have
Speaker 2: wrapped that ship. Yeah, you should have. You should have
Speaker 2: acted get it? Who did it? Yeah?
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Speaker 5: I think if she actually wrapped pop my butt, Yamla
Speaker 5: would have fired a gun into the air. Just the
Speaker 5: reaction to that would have been explosive, you know.
Speaker 2: To gone super saying too just lost their.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a few more things I want to tell
Speaker 1: you about this, uh, this apparent conspiracy theory. One of
Speaker 1: the other pieces that came up was this question of signaling.
Speaker 1: Signaling you mentioned David is sort of a way of
Speaker 1: I guess, showing to other people. It doesn't always have
Speaker 1: to be gay people, though I think the term is
Speaker 1: rooted in sort of gay culture, showing other people markings
Speaker 1: or or indications that we belong to the same community.
Speaker 1: This specific signal, I think, also gets dropped into something
Speaker 1: called hair pinning, which I guess is or dropping a hairpin,
Speaker 1: which is essentially the same quality of signaling, specifically as
Speaker 1: it relates to the airring.
Speaker 5: I guess you would drop a hairpin.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's that dropping a hairpin And so
Speaker 1: let me get graze to yeah, to like show a
Speaker 1: signal without having to get caught kind of thing.
Speaker 5: See, this is what I was talking about. There was
Speaker 5: so much subtlety and signaling. At some point it must
Speaker 5: have been exhausted because you would have had to speak
Speaker 5: a whole different language, like in the in the seventies
Speaker 5: sixties to let people know. My god, just write your
Speaker 5: name on a bathroom stall, you know, and be like
Speaker 5: at three pm, I'm.
Speaker 2: So glad you said it. I was thinking it. I
Speaker 2: was like, that seems like of all these things, that
Speaker 2: seems like the most reasonable way to do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, name number. Go to a bookstore. Go to a
Speaker 5: bookstore and just stand in the corner reading a stupid
Speaker 5: book and people know you're not reading You know what, I.
Speaker 2: Meant to get a nut.
Speaker 1: This Garfield book ain't that long?
Speaker 2: You ain't reading that? What are you doing here?
Speaker 5: Come on, mondays that much? No one has mondays like that.
Speaker 5: Put that buck down.
Speaker 2: Mondays. You don't have a job, you lasagna eating bitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I did always. I did always take an
Speaker 1: issue with that. I never understood what.
Speaker 2: Was the the the these days mean nothing to you. Garfield.
Speaker 5: He had a job. Garfield worked for the d O J.
Speaker 5: Garfield worked in the department of justice. He tap phones,
Speaker 5: she broke into houses, he arrested people. Uh, kind of
Speaker 5: a badass for problematic life. I think at the end
Speaker 5: of the day, damn damn Odi did Odie was unemployed
Speaker 5: because he got kicked in the.
Speaker 2: Head by a horse.
Speaker 1: Odi was unemployed and he was collecting the check, but
Speaker 1: he he wasn't making it. One of the things that
Speaker 1: they said was made complicated for this signaling, right because
Speaker 1: it originally originally sort of becomes popular in the eighties
Speaker 1: and nineties. But the reason they claim at least that
Speaker 1: these signals started to become problematic is because it gets
Speaker 1: weaponized by pop culture to some extent.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: There's actually an article from nineteen ninety one in the
Speaker 1: New York Times, no less, an article entitled Piercing Fad
Speaker 1: turns convention on its ear that basically exposes in a
Speaker 1: formal way, which obviously it had probably been speculated on
Speaker 1: for a long time, but sort of exposes in a
Speaker 1: formal way that the right ear is the quote unquote
Speaker 1: wrong ear, or the gay ear, and that then makes
Speaker 1: it a societal conversation and not just this sort of
Speaker 1: communal one between gay men.
Speaker 5: This was this happened in the eighties.
Speaker 1: Right, this article is nineteen ninety one. But the trend
Speaker 1: I think begins in the eighties.
Speaker 5: I don't know what it was. I think there was
Speaker 5: a lot of there was a lot of witch hunt ism,
Speaker 5: the cultural witch hunt stuff in the eighties. Like remember
Speaker 5: what they were telling everyone that dungeons and dragons was
Speaker 5: like demonic. You know, there was just a lot.
Speaker 2: Of there was major satanic panic as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, panic, Yeah, And uh, I think it's part of it.
Speaker 5: I think that's kind of an extension of it. But
Speaker 5: also I think as gay people kind of moved into
Speaker 5: just kind of society, mainstream society as a whole, a
Speaker 5: lot of the stuff that was traditionally gay became popular,
Speaker 5: and so it started to hell, yeah George Michael and the.
Speaker 2: Rest about the other guy and nobody he doesn't even
Speaker 2: have name, No he doesn't.
Speaker 5: That's wham.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think that. I think that definitely that.
Speaker 2: I think also it's just a very conservative time, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: in general in our country's history, and I think that
Speaker 2: leads to to a fear around these things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're in the middle of Nancy Reagan telling
Speaker 1: us not to fuck, not to do drugs, not to
Speaker 1: to do and she is meanwhile, secretly, secretly she who
Speaker 1: we want to be doing drugs and fucking with you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Nancy should have been like, don't
Speaker 1: fucking do drugs unless you're trying to get the best.
Speaker 2: And that's me. Uh, that's say.
Speaker 5: Regan to like, tore down that wall.
Speaker 2: We miss you, Nancy. That said, I do think you're
Speaker 2: right that it's court for job.
Speaker 1: In that bit is it's still Ronald Reagan telling him
Speaker 1: to do it to his wife. That's great job tear
Speaker 1: down Nancy, just busting it open for freedom.
Speaker 2: For freedom. That's good because I don't think I could
Speaker 2: not if I was president. What the stress? The job
Speaker 2: would way too heavy. I don't think I would get
Speaker 2: a lot of directions as the president of the United States.
Speaker 1: Oh you think you It would really give you a
Speaker 1: wrect out dysfunction to be president of the United States.
Speaker 1: I've always felt like that jobs not as hard as
Speaker 1: they pretend like it is.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm tripping, maybe I'm yeah, and I think I
Speaker 2: guess I've always thought they were all that, so it's
Speaker 2: not that stressful of a job.
Speaker 5: Me and David are different. We think every president is
Speaker 5: a hero.
Speaker 2: We have hope. We're not like future alarmist. We believe
Speaker 2: in the good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just thought they were all monsters. I was like,
Speaker 1: there's no way these monsters are waking up stressed every day.
Speaker 1: They're probably I mean, consider the aging effect of it all.
Speaker 1: I think what's stressful about it is the the the pace,
Speaker 1: not the work itself.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you have to be a bunch of places and
Speaker 1: you have to stay up late, but I think you're
Speaker 1: kicking it most of the time. It's like business school,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like those people drink all
Speaker 1: the time. They just happened to be doing fucking school
Speaker 1: at the at the exact moment that they're doing it.
Speaker 5: Could you imagine being the one that got stuck in
Speaker 5: a bathtub tagging about that all the time. That would
Speaker 5: be so milliated. If I was tapped, I would be
Speaker 5: able to show again, that's just great.
Speaker 2: President.
Speaker 5: They had to get tools to get you out. Are you.
Speaker 2: And I'm still gonna raise taxes?
Speaker 1: You know it's crazy. I just assumed they asked him
Speaker 1: to leave after that.
Speaker 7: I never really yes, yes, because how are you? How
Speaker 7: are you good about a man? How are you good
Speaker 7: about a man he got himself stuck in about them?
Speaker 7: How's he gonna make a law?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, I just assume they were like, uh, mister Taff
Speaker 1: will obviously get you out, but but you're gonna have
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you twenty five minutes to pass it
Speaker 1: up and say your eyes to the stadt.
Speaker 5: The doors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the oval office that's closed for the afternoon, and
Speaker 1: you'll you'll find the door is locked tomorrow morning.
Speaker 5: And to drag him out, like, no, you.
Speaker 2: Finished the thought? You finished, God damn thought over here.
Speaker 5: Diary of a Mad Black Woman, but it's half being
Speaker 5: dragged out the oval.
Speaker 2: And then pushed down the steps in a wheelchair.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they like, stop making those bubbles while he's
Speaker 5: in the tub.
Speaker 1: All right, now, I think we did it. I think
Speaker 1: this morning we did it.
Speaker 2: This was this was great.
Speaker 1: It sounds like we're all in agreement that the signaling
Speaker 1: was probably necessary at a point, but certainly absurd for
Speaker 1: us as children to buy into. But what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do when you're raised in a toxic culture that
Speaker 1: refuses to look at itself?
Speaker 2: I concur Yeah, all right, Vinnie, do you want to
Speaker 2: tell the people where they can find you.
Speaker 7: Who sees d.
Speaker 2: You UGGI. That was just the funniest possible time to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: It was great, And I want to believe you were
Speaker 1: looking for the entire hour that we spoke.
Speaker 2: No no I, I had a queue up. I was
Speaker 2: just like, where do we uh? I wanted to get
Speaker 2: away from me. That's perfect.
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