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Speaker 1: Come on in stay a while. How much leverage does
Speaker 1: show Heyo Tani have after undergoing a procedure. It reinforces
Speaker 1: the healthy ligament in place. And the doctor is the
Speaker 1: team doctor for the Dodgers, which I found interesting. He
Speaker 1: just did Aaron Rodgers achilles and the doctor just did
Speaker 1: show Heyo Tani that it wasn't Tommy John surgery. It
Speaker 1: wasn't reconstructed that this is a sort of a Now,
Speaker 1: this is the same doctor who did Tommy John surgery
Speaker 1: on show Hey Otani back in twenty eighteen. But I'm
Speaker 1: wondering if we get to the point where this is
Speaker 1: called reinforcing the healthy ligament in place, could you see
Speaker 1: a preemptive strike by pitchers who then go in at
Speaker 1: a younger age and say, can we reinforce the ligament
Speaker 1: before I blow out the ligament? So you do something
Speaker 1: that's preventative the UCL and it wasn't reconstructed via Tommy
Speaker 1: John surgery. It was reinforced. And you're also seeing something
Speaker 1: that's different or unique with Aaron Rodgers with his achilles
Speaker 1: and trying to get him back. Cam Akers the running
Speaker 1: back with the Rams. He got back in action after
Speaker 1: six months, and Aaron Rodgers is talking about trying to
Speaker 1: come back if the Jets make the playoffs eight seven
Speaker 1: seven three DP show email address dpat Danpatrick dot com,
Speaker 1: twitter handle at DP show pull. Question for two is
Speaker 1: going to be one seed O Connor.
Speaker 2: Well, this is kind of an interesting story that PAULI
Speaker 2: brought to our attention. But how many hours of sleep
Speaker 2: do you get a night?
Speaker 1: Okay? Now, there's a Toronto Blue Jays pitcher who I
Speaker 1: think normally gets eleven, twelve or thirteen hours of sleep.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's a Blue Jay starter. His name's you say, Kakuchi.
Speaker 3: He's pretty good. He's ten and six, having a good season,
Speaker 3: and he had some cramps and had to lead the
Speaker 3: game the other day. And I guess the word got
Speaker 3: to the reporter Katelyin McGrath of The Athletic that he
Speaker 3: said it might be caused because he only got only
Speaker 3: got eleven hours of sleep the night before and they
Speaker 3: found up how many do you usually get? He said,
Speaker 3: usually I get thirteen to fourteen hours sleep. Kakuchi went
Speaker 3: on to say, yes, he goes to bed usually at
Speaker 3: eleven pm and at the night game. He wakes up
Speaker 3: the next day at one pm, So it's straight through
Speaker 3: thirteen to fourteen hours sleep on a normal night, not
Speaker 3: just pitching nights. Wow, Okay, shocking right. Yeah, he's reads
Speaker 3: of a young man. He's like twenty nine years old.
Speaker 1: Like cats don't even get this kind of sleep or dogs.
Speaker 3: I looked up sleep Journal, Medicine, sleep Journal, and they
Speaker 3: say thirteen hours sleep to fourteen fifteen is what someone
Speaker 3: who's under two years old gets and they're supposed to
Speaker 3: get and then it gets fewer hours as you get old.
Speaker 1: Okay, but can you have too much sleep? I don't
Speaker 1: know if the American Medical Association would say if you
Speaker 1: get this amount of sleep, it's actually a negative, yes, Todd.
Speaker 4: It seems to me you'd be like groggy a lot
Speaker 4: if you're sleeping that much and you get up, it
Speaker 4: takes some time to come to and everything like that.
Speaker 4: To spend over half your life. If he averages twelve
Speaker 4: or more hours like sleeping instead of functioning and being
Speaker 4: alive with the world, that just seems bizarre.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: According to a couple different sites, the Sleep Foundation, WebMD,
Speaker 3: oversleeping can be bad for your health. It could be
Speaker 3: a sign of depression, immune system issues. It could lead
Speaker 3: to diseases for like because you're not processing sugar the
Speaker 3: right way, diabetes, mental health, heart issues because your heart
Speaker 3: is not up and ready to go, so it could
Speaker 3: lower your heart function. But this guy is a professional
Speaker 3: athlete who's pitching.
Speaker 1: Well, you go to bed at eleven, you wake up
Speaker 1: at one am. I in college. Again, how much sleep
Speaker 1: do you get at nighttime?
Speaker 4: I would say somewhere in the as far as good sleep,
Speaker 4: four to five.
Speaker 1: Hours probably sleep APP sleep APP.
Speaker 4: I try to go to bed around eleven, but it
Speaker 4: takes a while to fall asleep. But if I end
Speaker 4: up the actual sleep time, I can't imagine it's more
Speaker 4: than forty five hours.
Speaker 2: All right, seaton U, I'm like a five six hour night,
Speaker 2: but I usually I also usually try to take a
Speaker 2: nap somewhere during the day, so I try to make
Speaker 2: up for it a little bit.
Speaker 1: But then I've been told that there's a certain amount
Speaker 1: of time that's great for a nap, and then after
Speaker 1: that you get kind of then it becomes a negative.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like under thirty minutes or over ninety
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marvin, what about you? I'm also a sixer sixer?
Speaker 1: What about you, Paulie?
Speaker 3: I get seven hours of sleep at night, almost right
Speaker 3: on the nose, and I usually get about a twenty
Speaker 3: five minute afternoon nap. I'm on a site now that
Speaker 3: tells how much napping you should do. They said fifteen
Speaker 3: minutes is great for a refresher. It's almost like having
Speaker 3: a quick cup of coffee. Anything more than forty five minutes,
Speaker 3: you're tricking your body into thinking it's going to sleep
Speaker 3: for the night, and it starts to shut down and
Speaker 3: it makes it harder to get up and rejuvenate after
Speaker 3: a forty five.
Speaker 1: Minute Yeah, I have mine down to around thirty eight minutes,
Speaker 1: you know, nap in the afternoon around thirty eight thirty
Speaker 1: seven minutes for some reaon I don't set an alarm.
Speaker 1: I just wake up, and you know, it takes me
Speaker 1: a while. I'm groggy, and then I probably get eight
Speaker 1: hours at night try to Yeah, see.
Speaker 6: I don't sleep. Schedule is extremely unhealthy.
Speaker 2: But there are times where I'll get the like shake
Speaker 2: at about like six o'clock, like, do you just want
Speaker 2: to sleep for the rest of the night or are
Speaker 2: you getting up for dinner? Oh like six o'clock PM.
Speaker 2: I'll lay down at like two or something. They'll be like,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna do like fifteen minutes and then they'll
Speaker 2: be like, so, are you gonna get up for dinner?
Speaker 2: Or that hasn't happened in a while, but it's definitely
Speaker 2: happened more than once.
Speaker 1: All Right, what's pole question for hour two going to be?
Speaker 6: See, we're going with how much sleep do you can get? Under?
Speaker 7: Eight?
Speaker 6: Or eight plus?
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Speaker 1: here start out first hour Mike or second hour Mike
Speaker 1: in Lake Tahoe. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5: Very good morning?
Speaker 1: Then how you doing good sir?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 8: I wanted to say I owe seating a pipe of
Speaker 8: the face. I will be submitting that this weekend via
Speaker 8: the Padres not winning the division, and I kind of
Speaker 8: think he had something to do with that. No hitter
Speaker 8: getting broke up in the ninth end and I'm just saying,
Speaker 8: seating them Padres fans still watching him then.
Speaker 1: No seating somehow. I don't know what you did to
Speaker 1: San Diego or why you did it to San Diego,
Speaker 1: but you did something. You know what.
Speaker 2: It's a classic problem with being on this show. I
Speaker 2: go for the joke almost every time consequences be day end.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I kind of I do. I have some
Speaker 2: love for San Diego, though, but I like making people
Speaker 2: laugh more.
Speaker 1: Saturday night, the Ohio State Buckeyes headed to South Bend
Speaker 1: taking on the Fighting Irish and Notre Dame. That'll be
Speaker 1: in primetime and that'll be on NBC. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the line is.
Speaker 3: On this because my guess the line.
Speaker 1: Okay, guess the line.
Speaker 3: Number six Ohio State at Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: What's Notre Dame's ranking number nine? Number nine?
Speaker 3: Both undefeated?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, this feels like this would be Ohio State
Speaker 1: favored slightly.
Speaker 3: You're onto something, all right.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say Ohio State favored by two.
Speaker 3: I'm giving that to you. There are a favored by three.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: By the way, USC is favored by thirty four and
Speaker 3: a half at Arizona State.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they need some challenging. Well, they could be
Speaker 1: looking ahead to the Colorado matchup there, and then you
Speaker 1: have what is the Colorado Oregon line? Is that I
Speaker 1: still have four?
Speaker 3: I still have it. I still have it at twenty
Speaker 3: two oh twenty. Check some other places.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure people will bet that up. They're betting.
Speaker 1: They're betting Colorado to win outright.
Speaker 3: This is a lane big weekend for Lane Kiffin at Bama.
Speaker 3: A wounded animal.
Speaker 1: Possibly Chuck in North Carolina. Good morning, Chuck. What's on
Speaker 1: your mind today?
Speaker 5: Good morning DP, Good morning Dan Nuts.
Speaker 7: You know, just with the hype train of Colorado and
Speaker 7: before we get to the next two big games Oregon
Speaker 7: and USC next weekend, I'm wondering your thoughts on I
Speaker 7: was looking at rankings for the top one hundred and
Speaker 7: thirty three programs before the season. Colorado was ranked, according
Speaker 7: to this one site, eighty first, eighty first in the country.
Speaker 7: They win one game against TCU, which was the ranked
Speaker 7: number nineteen at the time, getting to the top twenty.
Speaker 7: If they go there are seven teams from the PAC
Speaker 7: twelve in the top twenty five right now, including Colorado.
Speaker 7: So just as inside maybe the best conference in football
Speaker 7: while they're disbanding on that aside, If Colorado goes, let's
Speaker 7: say there's six top twenty teams remaining on their schedule
Speaker 7: for the next nine games. If they go five, and
Speaker 7: if they go five and two against the seven top
Speaker 7: twenty five teams that they're going to play this season,
Speaker 7: and I know that can change you when it's all
Speaker 7: said and done. The SEC there's only six teams in
Speaker 7: the top twenty five, So right now, no other conference
Speaker 7: can play more than Colorado having the potential to play
Speaker 7: seven top twenty five teams. If Dion goes let's say,
Speaker 7: five and two against those seven top twenty five programs,
Speaker 7: including TCU. They're not ranked now, but they were at
Speaker 7: the time.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I get what you're saying. Land the plane
Speaker 1: longer than the Colorado State and the plane. Will they
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs? Should they be in the playoffs? Well,
Speaker 1: if you had twelve teams, but we got a long
Speaker 1: way to go. I just I want to caution everybody
Speaker 1: Colorado is ahead of schedule. I don't know if they're
Speaker 1: a good team. I don't think they're a great team.
Speaker 1: I think they have a great story. But how about
Speaker 1: in two weeks we kind of reset on this because
Speaker 1: everybody is rooting for this, all involved, everybody wants to
Speaker 1: talk to Dion. This is great. Yes, it's the story
Speaker 1: of college football. But where are we going to be
Speaker 1: in three weeks? Where will we be in a month
Speaker 1: with this story? And maybe maybe they beat Oregon or
Speaker 1: they beat USC, or they do both, or they get
Speaker 1: blown out by both, and then what happens after that?
Speaker 1: What's the follow up? Is college game Day going to
Speaker 1: go to Boulder anymore? Is Fox's big noon kickoff going
Speaker 1: to go to Boulder anymore? No, they'll probably start to
Speaker 1: go to places where you have the teams that are
Speaker 1: going to be there at the end. But look, I
Speaker 1: enjoy this. I just want to caution everybody because it
Speaker 1: feels like we're willing this to happen. It's wishful reporting,
Speaker 1: wishful fandom with this. I just I want to sprinkle
Speaker 1: in a little bit of reality. That's all, Yes, Todd
Speaker 1: for those.
Speaker 4: Who believe in Colorado. If, for lack of a better word,
Speaker 4: what could happen this weekend against Oregon where someone would
Speaker 4: not believe, like to get totally blown out? Like what
Speaker 4: would be a magic number where someone who's all in
Speaker 4: on Colorado is now not anymore losing by thirty forty.
Speaker 4: I just wonder what that would be that outcome that
Speaker 4: would make someone get off the Buffalo's train.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think I think if they.
Speaker 4: Get blown out? I think a lot of people would
Speaker 4: be like, oh, now that they played a really tough
Speaker 4: team except FORDCU obviously you know, went to the national team.
Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, they're going to get a hall pass this
Speaker 3: weekend if it's not a great game because the Travis
Speaker 3: Hunter being out and it was a cheap shot, you know,
Speaker 3: so they get a bit of a hall pass that
Speaker 3: their best all round player is out and Oregon, you
Speaker 3: know at Oregon everything there. So how much they spent
Speaker 3: on the last game. Well, I'm really fascinated by if
Speaker 3: and when Colorado gets to six wins the Bowl battle
Speaker 3: to get them. Oh yeah, because I don't know if
Speaker 3: how the automated bulls work. It's not that slotted. But
Speaker 3: if you're the Bahama Bull or the Cheese At Bowl
Speaker 3: or the Pop Tart Bowl, you break the bank and say, look,
Speaker 3: we want Colorado over all, you know, over anything like
Speaker 3: would you want Ole miss at ten wins or Colorado
Speaker 3: at seven?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But is there a negotiation that goes on with
Speaker 1: these bowl games that it could be?
Speaker 3: I would think it.
Speaker 1: I thought that you're slotted in who you pick.
Speaker 3: Sometimes, Yes, a lot of a lot of the bulls
Speaker 3: have slots. If you're the third ranked team in the
Speaker 3: Pac twelve, you go blank.
Speaker 1: Or you get to pick the teams that you want.
Speaker 1: To a point, like, I think it's like, okay, here
Speaker 1: the final four National Title game, those sites, those Bull games,
Speaker 1: and then after that, what is that next bowl? Is
Speaker 1: that the Citrus Bowl, Fiesta Bowl? They get to pick
Speaker 1: the matchup that they want.
Speaker 3: Some yeah, mostly they do. Sometimes they have like tradition
Speaker 3: of taking the second best team in the PAC twelve.
Speaker 3: But Colorado's gonna be scalding hot for the Bull season.
Speaker 1: And I remember when this topic came up a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and we were talking about could the
Speaker 1: PAC twelve maintain the name the PAC twelve therefore still
Speaker 1: have that automatic berth into a playoff and if you
Speaker 1: could sue for that, But you only have a couple
Speaker 1: of teams that are going to be left under that
Speaker 1: umbrella with the PAC twelve. But if you merge with
Speaker 1: the Mountain West, don't you don't want to be the
Speaker 1: Mountain West. You want to be the PAC twelve. And
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be interesting with Washington State
Speaker 1: and Oregon State. Can you keep the name and the
Speaker 1: likeness and the automatic berth just you want the Mountain
Speaker 1: West to join the PAC twelve, not the other way
Speaker 1: around uh, Nick and Indiana. Hi, Nick, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today?
Speaker 5: Hey, good morning Dad.
Speaker 1: You got good.
Speaker 5: Our first time six four, a shrinking two sixty and
Speaker 5: solidly in the seven to eight hours of sleep club.
Speaker 5: Also consider myself very fortunate that I started listening to
Speaker 5: the show despite not being bedridden.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5: I want to talk today about Crappensburg State hype songs.
Speaker 5: I've been thinking about this a lot.
Speaker 1: By the way, we sold three hundred and fifty shirts
Speaker 1: yesterday Crappensburg State, our fictitious university that we made up.
Speaker 1: And what was the dukes?
Speaker 2: The Dukes of crap I believe they're going to be
Speaker 2: the Crappensburg State Dukes.
Speaker 6: Okay, I believe that's it, lovely man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you have to add to that? Nick?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got a for you to get everybody hyped up,
Speaker 5: depending on the age. So I'll start off at drop
Speaker 5: it like a hot performed by poop Dog of course, Okay,
Speaker 5: let it go to get the youths involved frozen, and
Speaker 5: then making a mess by skid Row.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's a deep cut. Okay, you're a full bloop.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Nick.
Speaker 1: What's a good three hundred and fifty people ordered Crappensburg
Speaker 1: State t shirts yesterday.
Speaker 2: People are pumped about it, and rightfully so yeah, rightfully yeah.
Speaker 6: I think you know what, I think we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: I think we're going to make those you know, like
Speaker 2: those windows stickers that you put on for like parents and.
Speaker 6: They have their kids college. I think we're gonna make
Speaker 6: Crappensburg State.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 1: Why not? Yeah, my son goes to crap and.
Speaker 2: Mind my child made the Dean's list at Crag State.
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna do like a line of bumper
Speaker 2: stickers and those windows stickers.
Speaker 1: My son made the Dean's list at Crappensburg State. Exactly,
Speaker 1: no bleep. Yeah, It's like that movie, was it? Is it?
Speaker 3: Jonahill where they go to a fake college. Is it accepted?
Speaker 3: They South Harmon Institute of Technology. They just make up
Speaker 3: a fake school.
Speaker 1: Good flick Crappensburg State available at Danpatrick dot com. Take
Speaker 1: a break, We'll talk to Jeff Passon of The Mothership
Speaker 1: about the procedure show Heyo Tani underwent and how much
Speaker 1: leverage does he have now here in the off season.
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Speaker 1: Jeff passon the Mothership ESPN senior baseball insider joints Us
Speaker 1: on the program, explain to me the procedure not surgery.
Speaker 1: That show heo Tony had.
Speaker 5: It was a.
Speaker 9: Surgery and they tried to talk around it, essentially to
Speaker 9: not use the words Tommy John.
Speaker 1: What it was.
Speaker 9: Reading between the lines here was a revision, reconstruction with
Speaker 9: an internal brace. What that means is Tommy John surgery
Speaker 9: has evolved through the years, right it used to be.
Speaker 9: Then the original procedure, Doctor Frank Joe went into Tommy
Speaker 9: John's elbow and drilled holes and essentially looped a new
Speaker 9: ucl through those holes using a tendon that was taken
Speaker 9: from his wrist. From what Neil Latrosh, the doctor who
Speaker 9: did the surgery said in the statement, he talked about
Speaker 9: it being a repair and a reinforcement, which suggests that
Speaker 9: they didn't go in with the brand new tendon and
Speaker 9: loop it through that they reinforced the old one that
Speaker 9: was there and added an internal brace, which is something
Speaker 9: that doctor Keith meister A noted Tommy John expert has
Speaker 9: been doing the last few years and that Neil Latrosha
Speaker 9: has picked up on as well, and that has found
Speaker 9: a ton of success in keeping guys healthy. Essentially, though, yes,
Speaker 9: this was Tommy John surgery and Shojo. Tommy's not going
Speaker 9: to pitch next year, and the chances of him coming
Speaker 9: back and pitching in the future, frankly are pretty good.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's to do for his leverage here in the
Speaker 1: off season?
Speaker 9: Not a whole lot because he's still hurt, right, Like,
Speaker 9: that's the problem with this. I was so genuinely wanting
Speaker 9: to see him go into this winter healthy just to
Speaker 9: see how high his contract was going to go. I
Speaker 9: think if he was fully healthy going in, it was
Speaker 9: going to be six hundred and fifty million dollars. So
Speaker 9: I think that this ucl tear, that this procedure is
Speaker 9: going to cost him one hundred and fifty million probably,
Speaker 9: But I really don't foresee many scenarios where it gets
Speaker 9: too far under five hundred, Like maybe maybe teams are hesitant.
Speaker 9: But let's look at it this way, Dan, you have
Speaker 9: a baseline in place already with Aaron Judge, to whom
Speaker 9: Sho Hao Tani is a very comparable bat right, you
Speaker 9: have nine years and three hundred and sixty million dollars.
Speaker 9: That is a recent comparable. You also have the fact
Speaker 9: that shoe Hayo Tani is the biggest star in the
Speaker 9: sport and international superstar that your franchise value just by
Speaker 9: having him around is going to jump. You're going to
Speaker 9: sell tickets, you're going to sell merchandise, you're going to
Speaker 9: sell concessions, you're going to sell everything. And then, oh,
Speaker 9: by the way, you've got the pitching element too. And
Speaker 9: while you may not necessarily want to go out and
Speaker 9: guarantee that type of money. Jameson is a two time
Speaker 9: Tommy John guy who went out and got sixty eight
Speaker 9: million dollars from the Cubs this past offseason, and Show
Speaker 9: Heyo Tani is a lot better than Jameson Tai On
Speaker 9: has ever been before. So I think the argument in
Speaker 9: his favor to go and get that five hundred million
Speaker 9: really is valid. It's just a question of which organization
Speaker 9: and specifically which owner is going to be willing to
Speaker 9: take that lead, because all the other ones then are
Speaker 9: going to want to say, you know what, yeah, we'll
Speaker 9: look at you being a pitcher, but you're going to
Speaker 9: have to earn that this is going to be incentive based,
Speaker 9: and frankly, I don't think he's going to want it
Speaker 9: to be, and I don't think he should have it
Speaker 9: need to be.
Speaker 1: Should I read into the fact that it was the
Speaker 1: Dodgers surgeon who did the surgery on Show Heyo Tony No.
Speaker 9: Neil Latrosh is just excellent at his job.
Speaker 5: He's the guy.
Speaker 9: Him and Meister are the guys you go to, and
Speaker 9: you know, Jeff Dugas and Birmingham like the David Altchek
Speaker 9: like there are certain but when you are on the
Speaker 9: West coast and you live in La you go to
Speaker 9: neil E La trash, simple as that.
Speaker 1: When do negotiations start for show Hao Tony.
Speaker 9: The day after the World Series ends? And you know what,
Speaker 9: I'm sure there's back channeling going on right now that
Speaker 9: that probably is against rules and regulations. But even with
Speaker 9: this surgery, Dan, He's still going to be the you know,
Speaker 9: the the hottest free agent that we've seen since Alex
Speaker 9: Rodriguez the first time when he signed with Texas. Like,
Speaker 9: I can't think of another player who's gone out there
Speaker 9: and reach free agency. I mean Bryce Harper, but that
Speaker 9: that free agency sort of collapsed on itself, and that
Speaker 9: that to me, is going to be the defining question here.
Speaker 9: Are teams going to use the UCL issue as an
Speaker 9: excuse to avoid going after a transcendent player or are
Speaker 9: they not going to get in their own way and
Speaker 9: say this is a once in a lifetime literally Dan,
Speaker 9: a once in a lifetime guy, and we have the
Speaker 9: opportunity to get him purely for money. We don't have
Speaker 9: to give up players, we don't have to give up prospects.
Speaker 9: All this is going to take is money, and I
Speaker 9: think the smart owners out there will approach it that way,
Speaker 9: and we're going to see a pretty interesting free agency
Speaker 9: on account of that.
Speaker 1: All right, give me the teams one through three that
Speaker 1: you think are going to be tough to be they're
Speaker 1: going to be in for the sweep stakes. Here, Can I.
Speaker 9: Go more than that? Because I don't. I haven't like
Speaker 9: I don't think there's an established favorite at this point.
Speaker 9: I think coming into this season, the expectation was Dodgers
Speaker 9: or bus I don't think that's the case anymore. Like
Speaker 9: around the industry, the Dodgers certainly have interests in Otani
Speaker 9: and they're certainly going to be there, and if they
Speaker 9: ended up with him in their uniform next year wouldn't
Speaker 9: surprise me. But the Dodgers are going to be there.
Speaker 9: I think the Boston Red Sox are going to be there.
Speaker 9: I think the Chicago Cubs are going to be there.
Speaker 9: I think the Texas Rangers are going to be there.
Speaker 9: At San Francisco Giants, you know, a team like Seattle
Speaker 9: is really interesting to me. What is Seattle's appetite going
Speaker 9: to be to go for the years rather than that
Speaker 9: short term, high dollar contract. And I don't know if
Speaker 9: it's going to play out this way necessarily him. But
Speaker 9: it would not surprise me at all if a couple
Speaker 9: teams early on jump in with offers for like four
Speaker 9: years at two hundred and forty million dollars, you know,
Speaker 9: just saying, hey, we're not going to go long term
Speaker 9: with you, but we will give you, you know, fifty
Speaker 9: percent more than any player has ever made. We will
Speaker 9: make you a sixty million dollar a year player. And
Speaker 9: at that point is Otani going to be intrigued by
Speaker 9: that or is that simply going to embold in him
Speaker 9: to take that sixty million dollar a year number and
Speaker 9: try and get it for eight or nine or ten
Speaker 9: years as opposed to the four or five that some
Speaker 9: teams might want to might want to offer.
Speaker 1: The Angels' odds did they move it all increase, decrease
Speaker 1: with the injury that he had.
Speaker 9: I guess maybe increased slightly, because there's a chance that
Speaker 9: the market just collapses, right, There's a chance that teams
Speaker 9: look at this and say, you know, we thought he
Speaker 9: was a sixty million dollar year player, but now there's
Speaker 9: just too much uncertainty, and the Angels could swoop in.
Speaker 9: But I gotta be honest, I'm not sure that the
Speaker 9: Angels are willing to go out there and spend the
Speaker 9: money to resign him. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 9: how heavy the interest is going to be there.
Speaker 1: Could they have traded him almost two months ago? I
Speaker 1: know that we said that they should have.
Speaker 9: Yes, of course they should have. I mean it was
Speaker 9: I wrote this in my column on ESPN dot com yesterday.
Speaker 9: It was giving out awards, and the biggest blunder goes
Speaker 9: to the Los Angeles Angels for not doing what was
Speaker 9: patently obvious to everybody not named Artie Moreno. And when
Speaker 9: you have an impetuous owner who makes decisions flying by
Speaker 9: the seat of his pants, and suddenly, like five days
Speaker 9: before the trade deadline, when you have good offers lined
Speaker 9: up for a guy who in all likelihood is going
Speaker 9: to leave, but if you hold on to him, all
Speaker 9: you're going to get out of it is like the
Speaker 9: seventieth pick in the draft is compensation, and you say,
Speaker 9: you know what, we're fighting for a wild card spot
Speaker 9: and that sounds like a damn good idea. I mean,
Speaker 9: it's malpracticed, Dan it is.
Speaker 1: And then I mean.
Speaker 9: Of course they're going to double down on it by
Speaker 9: going out and getting Lucas Gilio and Ronaldo Lopez that day,
Speaker 9: and then a month later they give those guys away
Speaker 9: for free. I mean, it's just organizational incompetence that I
Speaker 9: frankly don't blame the baseball operations people for because they're
Speaker 9: just doing what their owner asks. It's just extremely poor ownership,
Speaker 9: simple as that.
Speaker 1: Always great to talk to you, Jeff, Thank you for
Speaker 1: joining us.
Speaker 8: Pleasure is always mind dad.
Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, Jeff Passon Mothership ESPN senior Baseball insider. Get
Speaker 1: a couple of phone calls here. You know, we brought
Speaker 1: it up quite a few times ad nauseum and because
Speaker 1: I could see this unfolding you he was not going
Speaker 1: to stay. Now we didn't know he was going to
Speaker 1: get hurt. But even then you could have traded him. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe the agent says, go ahead and trade him. He's
Speaker 1: not signing with whoever you're going to trade him to,
Speaker 1: So what's your return going to be? And that might
Speaker 1: come out eventually that maybe they did explore a trade
Speaker 1: and the owner or you know, the owner tried to
Speaker 1: because all I would want to know is what's the
Speaker 1: number and do you want to stay? And if you
Speaker 1: can't give me an answer to both or at least
Speaker 1: one of those. Then I'm gonna trade you. I have
Speaker 1: to do that as a businessman, and this is a
Speaker 1: business decision. And we talked about that quite a few times,
Speaker 1: that the Angels were going to walk away with nothing
Speaker 1: out of this. A couple of phone calls in here,
Speaker 1: Uh Keith in New Orleans. Hi Keith, good morning. What's
Speaker 1: on your mind today?
Speaker 5: Hey? Dan? And Dan?
Speaker 10: I appreciate you taking my call?
Speaker 5: Are you Ben? Oh?
Speaker 1: Spectacular? That's good?
Speaker 10: First time call A long time listener.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 10: Five eleven in the morning, five ten of a day
Speaker 10: goes on two forty Okay, I got two things Dion
Speaker 10: did Dion open up Pandora's box. And what I mean
Speaker 10: by that is if another coach, new coach, come into
Speaker 10: another college with less fanfare, less hoopla and do the
Speaker 10: same thing Dion did, will that be accepted? What I
Speaker 10: mean by that is coming in getting rid of forty
Speaker 10: five fifty players bringing in other players. Did he open
Speaker 10: up something that's going to be uncontrollable or would it
Speaker 10: be a double standard?
Speaker 1: Well, the portal did that. And what Dion was saying is, look,
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the players are responsible for one win.
Speaker 1: Last season. Well, why do I want to have that
Speaker 1: coaching staff or anybody on that staff or those players
Speaker 1: if they only won one game. I'm going to bring
Speaker 1: in my players, my coaches and do it my way. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, nil and the transfer portal allowed him to
Speaker 1: do it, because you know in the older days that
Speaker 1: you wouldn't transfer, but you had to sit out a year.
Speaker 1: Then then you can't do that reclamation project, no mass transfers.
Speaker 1: Dion was able to do it. Will other coaches do this,
Speaker 1: maybe not to this degree, but yeah, of course, I
Speaker 1: mean coaches do this. They're just no, there's not any
Speaker 1: attention attached to it the way it was with Dion,
Speaker 1: and Dion putting it on social media that he's telling
Speaker 1: these kids to their faces in a large conference room, basically,
Speaker 1: pack your bags. I don't need you anymore.
Speaker 10: Right, That's what he did, just the way he did it.
Speaker 10: The other question is Lane Kiffen is the auditioned for
Speaker 10: the job replacing when Nick Saban retires. As wee cand.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you know, if you're Alabama boosters, you know
Speaker 1: you want to see keep an eye on Lane kiffinn
Speaker 1: offensive genius there. And you know Dabbos Sweeney. Maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit of the luster is lost there with what's
Speaker 1: happened at Clemson. But yeah, I think you could look
Speaker 1: at Lane Kiffen. Would that be somebody that you want
Speaker 1: to hit your wagon to. I think we're coming up
Speaker 1: on the anniversary of him being fired by USC, been
Speaker 1: ten years, Does that sound right, Paulie.
Speaker 3: Tarmac Day, Yes, checking, Yeah.
Speaker 1: How humbling is that? You get you you land, and
Speaker 1: you come back from a loss, you land, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's like, yeah, uh Lane, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to get your own ride home. You get
Speaker 1: kicked to the curb at the tarmac, like you don't
Speaker 1: even get They didn't have uber back then.
Speaker 6: Like what do you do?
Speaker 1: You got to call your wife and go, uh hunt,
Speaker 1: can you come and pick me up?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What's wrong?
Speaker 1: Uh well I'm not the coach anymore at USC? Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, next week will be the ten year anniversary. They
Speaker 3: call it the FBO firing because he was in the
Speaker 3: little offices there the private jets. Oh god, big loss
Speaker 3: to Arizona State cost him his job, yeah, and others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and USC plays Arizona State.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Lane Kiffin. According to the La Times, He
Speaker 3: was called off the team bus at three am as
Speaker 3: they were preparing to head back to campus on the
Speaker 3: group of buses and his small room inside the terminal.
Speaker 3: Pat hay the ad was sitting there and told him
Speaker 3: he was done. I don't know how he got home.
Speaker 3: I think we asked him how he got home from
Speaker 3: the airport. I think someone at some Stafford game a ride.
Speaker 3: Oh my god checking.
Speaker 1: You imagine you're on the bus getting ready to go,
Speaker 1: coach head count and all of a sudden, Pat Hayden
Speaker 1: shows up and says, uh, lane can yeah, yeah, yeh man,
Speaker 1: that's tough loss. Yeah, I really was. You know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get him going. We're gonna get yeah about that.
Speaker 1: You're not going to be on the bus ride. I
Speaker 1: have to I'm going to fire you. Has a coach
Speaker 1: been fired in a more unceremonious fashion than that? Oh?
Speaker 3: Wasn't there one that was on TV?
Speaker 6: Was it?
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was HERM Edwards? Was Herr
Speaker 3: Edwards at Arizona State told in the end zone, I
Speaker 3: think walking off the field, I'm the athletic director. I
Speaker 3: thought that cameras eight on the game. Yeah, it's called
Speaker 3: network and they showed her Edwards.
Speaker 1: Okay, would you rather get fired like that walking off
Speaker 1: the field with the athletic director or you have to
Speaker 1: get off the team bus in front of your team
Speaker 1: and you're brought in and fired. Yes, yes, I'll take
Speaker 1: it on the field.
Speaker 4: It gives me a little ecture time to figure out
Speaker 4: how I'm getting home in an uber situation. And I
Speaker 4: got to buy an airline ticket.
Speaker 3: And grab my gear, all the all the free swag
Speaker 3: before to leave the locker room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just something about like, you know, what is
Speaker 2: so bad, like just please leave now. We can't even wait.
Speaker 2: That's just brutal. On the field, that is just brutal.
Speaker 6: Yeah, on the field, on the tarmac, on the.
Speaker 2: How about a nice uh you know, Saturday afternoon loss.
Speaker 2: How about a nice Monday morning firing. That's that's the
Speaker 2: timeline for me.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break.
Speaker 7: More.
Speaker 1: Phone call, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was HERM Edwards. The ad was talking to
Speaker 3: him as he was leaving.
Speaker 1: There, and you could see he's told something where Herm's
Speaker 1: surprised and if you have it on camera, it's like
Speaker 1: HERM come over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: how HERM is he's always fired. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: going to fire you.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, now let me get off the field here,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll take a break. More phone calls coming
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Speaker 1: Quite a weekend for college football. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people have focused on Colorado against Oregon, but I
Speaker 1: can't remember a weekend where you had this many matchups
Speaker 1: with the ranked team. So number three, Florida State at
Speaker 1: number twenty three, Clemson number nineteen, Colorado at number eleven,
Speaker 1: Oregon number twenty five, Ucla at number ten, Utah number sixteen,
Speaker 1: Mississippi at number twelve, Alabama number fifteen, Oregon State at
Speaker 1: number twenty four, Washington State number four, Ohio State at
Speaker 1: number nine, Notre Dame number twenty two, Iowa at number seven,
Speaker 1: Penn State. All of that coming up this weekend. That's
Speaker 1: good stuff here. And Colorado in Oregon is a three
Speaker 1: eastern start, just to let you know, plan accordingly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that one is one of those where I thought
Speaker 1: it would be in the evening totally. Yeah, three o'clock.
Speaker 3: You know, Washington, the Huskies are getting no national love. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they got they got you know, they got a lot
Speaker 3: of ranked teams later in the season. They could they
Speaker 3: want to, you know, crash a party.
Speaker 1: Well, not everybody's gonna stay ranked, obviously, because you're gonna
Speaker 1: have losses in the Pac twelve. But uh, you know
Speaker 1: you got Colorado and Oregon. Uh, you're gonna have Ucla, Utah,
Speaker 1: Oregon State, Washington State, they're going to you know, somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna get knocked off there. Then you're gonna have teams
Speaker 1: drop out of the top twenty five. Yes, Paul, this is.
Speaker 3: Why Notre Dame should stay independent that they can play
Speaker 3: in Ohio State in September, you know, because if they're
Speaker 3: in the Big ten, I know they'll play Ohio State anyway.
Speaker 3: But then they're gonna, you know, do the old thing
Speaker 3: where they schedule some cupcakes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that Ohio State and Notre Dame. You
Speaker 1: can see that in primetime coming up on Saturday night.
Speaker 1: I saw where, uh, Tiger Woods justin Timberlake are opening
Speaker 1: up a sports bar in New York and it's an
Speaker 1: entire city block. But I don't know is it a
Speaker 1: bar restaurant? I know it's got golf simulators in there, yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 3: It's got multiple rooms. Can you guys guess what the
Speaker 3: name is?
Speaker 5: Gonna be?
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods and justin Timberlake t squared, Oh okay, twenty
Speaker 3: two thousand square feet, four different golf simulators, lots and
Speaker 3: lots of TVs, and they're breaking it up into like
Speaker 3: there's a bowling area. There's a lounge which has TVs,
Speaker 3: but there's more bar and nice place. There's a pure
Speaker 3: sports area that just surrounded with TVs.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of room there. Remember when ESPN had
Speaker 1: ESPN the Zone, ESPN Zone Times Square, that was a
Speaker 1: big building and it doesn't exist anymore. The building does,
Speaker 1: but ESPN Zone does not.
Speaker 3: Yes, I always thought the danger of having a big
Speaker 3: corporate sports bar is closing time, because what if you
Speaker 3: were watching that Colorado Colorado State game at that sports
Speaker 3: bar and you're sitting there and it's one o'clock closing time,
Speaker 3: but you can stay up until two. Manager just doesn't
Speaker 3: want it till two, and they say, okay, guys, last call.
Speaker 3: I remember going to the ESPN Zone in New York
Speaker 3: City and we'd try to stay late for a game
Speaker 3: or something like we're closing at the Tuesday it's twelve
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, all right, I guess we're leaving.
Speaker 1: Uh could you could you say last call at one?
Speaker 1: But we're going to stay open until the game ends.
Speaker 1: That maybe if I was the manager, that's what I
Speaker 1: would do.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the decor. There's lots of like tiger Woods,
Speaker 3: golf bags so forth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the idea that it's an entire city block is insane.
Speaker 6: Yeah, city city blocks are are are massive.
Speaker 1: They have a bar that.
Speaker 6: Big, I know is incredible.
Speaker 1: Just if you said Tiger and Justin Timberlake were going
Speaker 1: to be there, I still wouldn't want to go. If
Speaker 1: I knew they're going to be there, Well, okay, I
Speaker 1: might be able to see them and then that's it.
Speaker 1: But you're you're asking that's a lot of people. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing this has to be close to Times Square. You
Speaker 1: want to get the tourists that come in because I
Speaker 1: don't know if locals. Locals love to have their own
Speaker 1: little bar. I don't know if you want to go
Speaker 1: to this. This is this is an event, Yes, Poem.
Speaker 3: I have it located at forty second Street in Bryant Park,
Speaker 3: which is about four blocks west of Grand Center.
Speaker 1: Nice area.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, mar this is quite the rollout for the
Speaker 2: insinct Super Bowl announcement.
Speaker 1: Oh you think that's attached to this? Look Justin got
Speaker 1: with in Sync at the VMA. Something's going on with
Speaker 1: in Sync, right, Something's going on. They're trying to be
Speaker 1: koy and it feels like they're ready to announce something.
Speaker 1: By the way, Colorado USC next week. What time do
Speaker 1: you think it starts? I think this is this has
Speaker 1: already been announced at Colorado. What time?
Speaker 3: Seven thirty pm Eastern Marvin.
Speaker 6: I'm with PAULI seven thirty Todd nine.
Speaker 1: Eastern, nine eastern Seaton.
Speaker 6: Can they change the time of the game or is
Speaker 6: this set right now? Like it has to be at
Speaker 6: the time?
Speaker 2: I think because depending on what happens with Colorado Oregon,
Speaker 2: I think that the USC time is hinging on.
Speaker 5: That m.
Speaker 1: I have nine a m. Pacific time.
Speaker 6: You're going with a noon kickoff on noon noon.
Speaker 1: USC Colorado big noon kickoff. I'm guessing nine am advantage Colorado.
Speaker 6: Damn, it's nine eight am.
Speaker 1: There you go. What's that song from Oh Your Girl?
Speaker 1: Oh and I've got my sweatshirt on my sweatsher done halftime? Yet?
Speaker 6: Didn't you turn it down?
Speaker 2: Because they wanted like a percentage of her, like the
Speaker 2: NFL wanted a percentage of her royalties of like records
Speaker 2: sold after her performance or something.
Speaker 1: Well, No, there was a pepsi coke.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's possible. I just made that up too.
Speaker 1: No, I think they tried to do that maybe with Springsteen.
Speaker 1: You know, these artists benefit being at halftime show.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, Taylor Swift is dating Travis Kelcey
Speaker 2: and she's dipping her uh toes into the NFL and
Speaker 2: perhaps she's the halftime show this year with Justin Timberlake
Speaker 2: because they just did that whole MTV Video Music Awards thing.
Speaker 1: And then Jason is playing in the super Bowl, and
Speaker 1: I thought she said she's.
Speaker 4: Never ever ever during halftime. That's what I thought from
Speaker 4: the getting Back Together song. She has a song called
Speaker 4: never Ever getting back Together.
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