1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back in everybody to the third hour of the 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Klay Travis end Buck Sexton Show, first show of twenty 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: twenty six. 4 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: Happy New Year. 5 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: We missed you, but we had great time over the 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: holidays with our families respectably. 7 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: We all hope and trust. 8 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: That you did as well, and you are ready and 9 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: rested to dive into everything with us again. This year, 10 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five was a great year for this country. 11 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: I think twenty twenty six could be even better. Starting 12 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: off with a bang here, a flash bang, perhaps with 13 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: the raid on the dictator of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, who 14 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: has pleaded not guilty, along with his wife. They also 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: grabbed the wife who was herself indicted in this for 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: being narco traffickers into the United States. That is underway. 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: We've been talking about the Tim Walls and Somali fraud situation. 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: Tim Wall saying he's not running for reelection as governor. 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: Is this the end of his political career? Possibly? And 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: there's much much more more that we'll be discussing around 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: that fraud issue. Just a breaking news item. Wall Street 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: Journal just putting this up. In the last few minutes, 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: the CDC has pared down the list of recommended childhood vaccines. 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: So US is dropping universal recommendations for certain childhood vaccines, 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: altering the immunization schedule to be more closely aligned with 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: Denmark's recommending fewer shots for children. Under the change, the 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: CDC is doing away with the recommendation that all children 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: receive vaccines for rotavirus, COVID nineteen, influenza, meninga, cockle disease, 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: hepatitis A, and hepatitis B. The CDC is instead advising 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: decisions about those shots being made by parents and their 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: children's healthcare providers. 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: Clai, We don't want. 33 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: To spend too much time on this one today because 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: there's so much heavy news going on. But I do 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: think that this is just this is just a wind 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: for sanity. 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: You know. 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm going through this with my boy right now. We 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: have a very good practitioner, very good doctor. 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: Who's our what do you call kid doctor? What do 41 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Pediatrician? Pediatrician? Thank you? 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: Sorry, I just blanked on the pediatrician. Blanked on the term. 43 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: We have a great pediatrician. 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And we. 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: Go through every We just go through each and everyone. 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Do we want this, do we need this? What is 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: the data say, do we want this, do we need this? 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: What is the data say? Because the overall schedule is 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: way too many, way too fast. 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: I know that I speak for a lot of parents 51 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 4: and grandparents out there when I say I am so 52 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 4: grateful that we did not get my kids the COVID shot. Now, 53 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 4: I'm glad I didn't get it, but you know, I 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 4: think a lot of parents out there felt like they 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: had to do it to keep their jobs and to 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: make sure they could pay their mortgage. And we certainly 57 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: can't forget what they did to us. But the fact 58 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: that so many parents were willing to make the right 59 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: decision for their kids. I the data on the COVID 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: shots just keep getting worse. And the fact that any kids, 61 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 4: particularly young kids and healthy kids, were ever given the 62 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: COVID shot is I think a complete failure of American policy. 63 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 4: But that information is out there. It just came down 64 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal Breaking News. We had a bunch of 65 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 4: people who wanted to weigh in on the big stories 66 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: of the day. We're going to talk with David Rutherford 67 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: at the bottom of the hour about the raid on Venezuela, 68 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: how incredibly impressive it was. We've got a bunch of talkbacks, 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: and Michael in Millburg, Florida, He's got a question about 70 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: what was said as it pertains to Maduro being arrested. 71 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: Fire away, Michael, Yeah, I was just. 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 5: Curious about the legality of when Secretary of Rubio said 73 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 5: that they arrested him and read him his rights. What 74 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 5: is the legality? What right is he entitled to as 75 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: a non US citizen in New York. 76 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: Well, he's been prosecuted under American law, so he's entitled 77 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: law the same protections under federal law that any other 78 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: criminal defendant would be entitled to. And so what Rubio 79 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: was referencing, which I think is significant, is this was 80 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 4: very similar For those of you who remember the Manuel 81 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: Noriega raid in nineteen ninety when he was arrested in Panama, 82 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: there's a lot of focus that Democrats have said, oh, 83 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: we're at war with Venezuela. What Marco Rubio I think 84 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 4: has done a good job of trying to illustrate is 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: this was an arrest of an indicted criminal under American law, 86 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 4: and he was arrested and now he's being brought to justice. 87 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 4: He pled not guilty, as is his right, and a 88 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: criminal court in New York City this morning. 89 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: This is Operation Absolute Resolve that has captured Verdurero. 90 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: If you want to do a little throwback, there was. 91 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: Operation Urgent Fury, pretty good name for the US invasion 92 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: of Grenada back in nineteen eighty three. A very small clay. 93 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: Are you licensed to practice law? There too? 94 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: A very small Caribbean nation. 95 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: I am licensed in the United States of Virgin Islands 96 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: and Tennessee have not added Grenada to the list. Let 97 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 4: me just point out Michael didn't ask this question, But 98 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: I do think this is an interesting question, and that 99 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: is unlike let's say, the combatants who were tried. If 100 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: you remember, and this is me going into the weeds 101 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 4: a little bit in Guantanamo and Buck has met one 102 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: of my buddies from law school who has been involved 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 4: in some of these prosecutions. 104 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: Great guy. 105 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: They decided to classify these individuals as enemy combatants. They 106 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 4: are not in some way charging Maduro under criminal military tribunals. 107 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 4: They are prosecuting him as a criminal case in New 108 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 4: York City. Just a little bit interesting procedurally, there's probably 109 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: an argument if they were classifying him as an enemy 110 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: combatant that they could have charged him under military tribunal law. Again, 111 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 4: this is really getting into the weeds, but they are 112 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: not doing that, and so they are prosecuting him under 113 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: typical criminal justice statutes, as would be the case with 114 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: a lot of criminal defendants all over the country. 115 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: He's really being treated as a narco kingpin and not 116 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: as a terrorist mastermind. Right if he had if he 117 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: had sent agents to blow up buses or you know, 118 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: take down planes or something here in America, we might 119 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: have gone the enemy combatant you know, yes, because because 120 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: he seized the Ayatola, I think based on his enemy 121 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: combatant status, that would be a military tribunal under which 122 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: he would be tried, not a no, a criminal court 123 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: in the United States. 124 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: That's in the weeds. He didn't ask about that, but 125 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 4: he might have been wondering. That might have been an 126 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 4: implication behind his question, do you. 127 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: Want to do this? 128 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: We got a VIP email that just came in. Born 129 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: in Caracas is the title, and this comes from Pamela 130 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: worked in Major League Baseball and returned to the eighties 131 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: and nineties for their winter ball games. I had been 132 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: detained last time I visited. Never forget there was a 133 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: time when Venezuela was one of the four wealthiest countries 134 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: on Earth, along with the US, New Zealand and Switzerland 135 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: at that time. Never forget Chavez. Maduro threw the population 136 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: into starvation with estimates of seventy percent of the people 137 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: and set up blockade to prevent medicine from reaching people 138 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: so the government could hoard and blackmail. Denesh Jesuz's wife 139 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: debutess from Venezuela. Actually, I'd forgotten that. That's I think 140 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: that's correct. Would she be a good guest? Hoping I 141 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: can go back and visit again. Thank you so much, Pamela. 142 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: The devastation society, devastation that has been visited on Venezuela 143 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: because of socialism, because of redistribution of wealth, collectivism, social justice, 144 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: all those buzzwords, all those things, all those ideas part 145 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: of the lib brain virus in this country. That's why 146 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: they're clay. The worst people in American politics are the 147 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: people who are. 148 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 6: Upset that Maduro was gone. It's amazing, It's a perfect correlation. 149 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 6: Are you the worst person in American politics? Do you 150 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 6: support all the bad things in this country? You know, 151 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 6: more crime, open borders, more spending, more taxation. Do you 152 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 6: support all the bad ideas. You're upset about Maduro being gone. 153 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 6: There's a real there's a thread that connects all of 154 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 6: these things. And that's why you can go back and 155 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 6: look at the not the Walston Journal, but the New 156 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 6: York Times in like twenty twelve writing editorials not an 157 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 6: op ed editorials on behalf of the editorial board about 158 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 6: all the great social justice things that Chavez was going 159 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 6: to accomplish in that country. Look the fact that there 160 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 6: were immedia, these AstroTurf protests in many different places in America, 161 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 6: I think are indicative of the left continuing to be broken, 162 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 6: to reflectively be opposed. 163 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: To anything Trump does. 164 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: Think about the reaction when, to his credit, Barack Obama, 165 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: contrary to the advice of Joe Biden, who said, don't 166 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: do it, took out Osama bin Laden. 167 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: I don't remember. 168 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: Do you remember any Republicans saying, I can't believe we 169 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 4: undertook this risk. I remember everybody saying credit to Obama. 170 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 4: He put his balls on the table, so to speak, 171 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,479 Speaker 4: took out Osama bin Lauden. That was an incredible accomplishment. 172 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 4: I remember everybody in America reacting in a very positive way. 173 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: I remember tweeting out in celebration of it and congratulations. 174 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: Very early in my media career, i'd left government, so 175 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: I finally had a Twitter account, and I remember very 176 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: early on, this is what I was saying. I was 177 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: just saying that, or rather that, this is how it felt. 178 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: It's a win for America. This is a win for America. 179 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: What happened in Venezuela. It's a win for America. It's 180 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: a win for the Venezuelan people. It's a win for 181 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: the rule of law. It's a win for the hemisphere. 182 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: It's a win for the world. Go down the list, 183 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: and the people were saying, oh, but what if, But 184 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: what if you could? But what if anything? Okay, yes 185 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: you could, but what if a million you could? But 186 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: what if you know, if we ended the Russian Ukraine 187 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: war tomorrow? Well, now, what if Russia smuggles nukes? You 188 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: can come up with a million scenarios that are possible 189 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: right now. What's happened is a huge step in the 190 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: right direction. 191 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: I think. 192 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 4: Also, just compare the way we left Afghanistan to the 193 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 4: way that we took out Maduro from Venezuela. To me, 194 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 4: it is a great distillation of it's the same military right. 195 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 4: I mean, in the same forces that are being allowed 196 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: to do their job. Thirteen people got killed because we 197 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 4: left Afghanistan in a total mess. We left what billions 198 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 4: of dollars of materiel that is now the property of 199 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 4: the Taliban that they are seeing, hundreds of billions We 200 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: outfitted the Taliban military. 201 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: The Taliban is going to be driving around in these 202 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: humviies in forty years. They're gonna have to patch them 203 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: back up, but this is going to be their military 204 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: for the foreseeable. 205 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: Just look at the organizational. 206 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: Plan that it was in place and was necessary in 207 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: Venezuela compared to leaving Afghanistan, and I think it's hard 208 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: to argue that we have not put competent people in 209 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: positions to be able to make the world a safer way. 210 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: Well, how you do things. 211 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: The decision to do something matters a whole heck of 212 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: a lot, Right, That is judgment, that is wisdom, But 213 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: how you do the thing is skill. It is acumen, 214 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: It is tactics. You know, it is implementation. And the 215 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: Trump administration is superior to Biden on hugely, clearly on 216 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: both counts. But I would even say, you look at 217 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: at Pete hextts secretary of War, and you compare him 218 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: to Lloyd Austin's predecessor, Peter's just a more on the ball, 219 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: smarter and more with it guy. Yes, he's just better 220 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: at this. He just understands how to get something like 221 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: this done in a way that his predecessor in the 222 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: role did not. 223 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 2: And that is true. 224 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: Also of Marca Rubio versus his previous occupant of the 225 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: secretary of State role, the Marc Rubios. We know many jobs, 226 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: many jobs that guy has, but secretary of State's probably 227 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: the most prominent. 228 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: By the way. 229 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: Trump has just weighed in on Tim Walls stepping down. 230 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: Should I read that? Or should that be a no? 231 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 4: You gotta hold that one, all right? You got when 232 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: we return, Trump, as only Trump can, has teed off 233 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: on Tim Walls, and we will tell you exactly what 234 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 4: he said. As Tim Walls' political career is. 235 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: Over, well, Jazz hands Waltz can now pursue his real 236 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: dreams on Broadway. January is often the toughest month to 237 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: pay off credit card balances. 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Okay, President 261 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 4: Trump has keyed off on Minnesota Governor Tim Walls, who 262 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: ended his political career in disgrace earlier today after all 263 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: of the revelations surrounding the Somali fraud. Here is what 264 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: President Trump just posted. Minnesota's corrupt governor will possibly leave 265 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: office before his term is up. 266 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: Let me pause there. 267 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: There are rumors that Walls is going to resign ultimately 268 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: as well. We'll see whether that ends up being true. 269 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 4: Right now, Walls is saying he's going to finish the 270 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: rest of his term this year, but in any event 271 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: will not be running again because he was caught all 272 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: caps red handed, along with Elon Omar and others of 273 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: his Somali friends, stealing tens of billions of dollars taxpayer dollars. 274 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: I feel certain the facts will come out and they 275 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: will reveal a seriously unscrupulous and rich group of slime balls. 276 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: Governor Walls has destroyed the state of Minnesota, but others 277 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: like Governor Gavin Neuscomb, JB. Pritzker, and Kathy Hokel have done, 278 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 4: in my opinion, an even more dishonest and incompetent job. 279 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: All Caps, no one is above the law. 280 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: Question for you, Buck, do you believe that there will 281 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: be any criminal charges brought against Tim Walls. Is this 282 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: going to get worse? Could there be more information coming 283 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 4: out about his involvement and recognition and knowledge of this fraud? 284 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: Or do you think Tim Walls's political career is just 285 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 4: over and he just kind of rides off into the 286 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 4: sunset now that he's no longer going to run for reelection, 287 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 4: focus turns to other people. Where do we go from here? 288 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: Basically in this story, I. 289 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: Don't think that you're gonna see Tim Walls charges. I 290 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: really don't. 291 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: And I try to always call these things honestly, even 292 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: though I know it right now feels like all this momentum, no, 293 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: and I don't think so, because let's break this down 294 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: what maybe happened here? I think Tim Walls was setting 295 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: from the top down a prioritization list, and you know, 296 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: as governor, and that includes his ag the attorney general 297 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: for this day? Is it Keith Ellison? Still it was 298 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: Keith Ellison, who's the AG in Minnesota. I think that's 299 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: still true. I think that's correct. Oh that's interesting, guys, 300 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: check that one on me. If that's the case. I'm 301 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: just pulling that one from the buck memory banks. It's 302 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: been two weeks. 303 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm a little rusty, little dusty up there, But it. 304 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: Is it is the case that they wouldn't have You 305 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: would not have gotten an at a boy, you would 306 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: not have gotten a high five previously for starting to 307 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: look into this. So that's set at a very bureaucratic 308 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: institutional level, as in he probably allowed this fraud, turned 309 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: a blind eye to it, and maybe even profited from 310 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: it in so far as there were illicit donations to 311 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: Democrat calls and campaigns. But I don't think he got 312 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: a you know, cutty exactly. I don't think Tim Walls 313 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: was getting money on the semi. He'd have to be 314 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: truly insane to be doing that one, because now you're 315 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: definitely talking about prison time. I don't think he did 316 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: anything like that. I just think it wasn't a an 317 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: enforcement priority for him at all. And I think that 318 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: actually anybody who began that enforcement process Clay probably was 319 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: risking their job. That sets a very powerful standard. 320 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 4: I would also point this out, Tim Walls would still 321 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 4: be governor, and he would be running for reelection and 322 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 4: he would probably win if he had not been Kamala's VP, 323 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: Because I don't think people would have come after him 324 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 4: on the fraud front in the same way and it 325 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 4: would have gotten the same amount of attention getting picked 326 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 4: as Kamala's VP into his political career. 327 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: Well, maybe Kamala is kryptonite for politics. Maybe, just maybe 328 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: Tim Waltz is the first of the duo to realize ain't. 329 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: No future in politics for you. 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Many 354 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: people I have been told David Rutherford is with us now. 355 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: He is a former Navy seal so all combat in Afghanistan. 356 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: Host of the David Rutherford Show on the Clay and 357 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: Boock podcast Network. 358 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: Our friend run. 359 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: Happy New Year, my friend, thanks so much for making 360 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: the time for us. 361 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 3: You are more than welcome. Gentlemen, thanks for having me on. 362 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: And can you believe what a way to kick off? 363 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six was one of the top top five 364 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: best ops I've ever seen or heard about. 365 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, talk us through this one in terms of the like, 366 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: the difficulty, the precision. We know that they had because 367 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: this has been reported widely. They had a mock up 368 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: of the actual building, and they waited till they knew 369 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: Maduro be in that building. What what's it like to 370 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: get to the level of room clearing, speed and precision 371 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: that this Delta team had to have to get in 372 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: there heavily armed compound, not a single casualty. 373 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 3: JSOCK units in particular Delta CAG the unit whatever you 374 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 3: want to call it, are the best in the world. 375 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: And the precision, speed and accuracy of their movements there's 376 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: just nobody else on the planet that can compete with 377 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: these guys. Now you throw in on top of that 378 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 3: the support units in terms of TF one sixty of 379 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: the ground branch probably was there, you know, the CIA 380 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: assets and sources online, the naval personnel, the Air Force, THEDIA, 381 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: the Intel. This is one of the most complicated operations 382 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: that could possibly take pay place, and to execute it 383 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: as flawlessly as they did. I mean it's like, you 384 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 3: know the deal Buck, you know what's Murphy's law. You know, 385 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: if it's going to go wrong, it will, And this 386 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 3: thing went flawless. 387 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 4: What do you think it says? We were talking earlier. 388 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 4: Thanks for guest hosting and everything you're doing as a 389 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. What does 390 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 4: it say if you just look at the organizational leadership 391 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: and compare our withdrawal from Afghanistan, and you compare it 392 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: with the tactical brilliance and superiority of the bombings of Iran, 393 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 4: when with the nuclear sites, and now this with a Maduro. 394 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: What do you think people around the world are saying? 395 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 4: What does it reflect upon when it comes to our 396 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 4: military and their ability to do things like this compared 397 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 4: to under Biden. 398 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: Oh, it's night and day. I mean, obviously the Afghanistan 399 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: pull out was probably the worst revelation for any g 400 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: WoT operator or personally served over there from the Intel 401 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 3: community wherever. It was like a dagger through your heart. 402 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: And so now when we finally see some real pipe 403 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: hitters go in to project you know, American power and 404 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: reestablish ourselves as somebody you don't want to mess with 405 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: around the world, there's nothing more significant as the global 406 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: power game shifts. And that's what's taking place. I mean, 407 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: the implications of this operation are not just don't just 408 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: stop and you know, as it affects the Madro doctrine 409 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: in Central and South America and the Americans itself. This 410 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 3: affects the entire world and puts everybody on notice. Hey 411 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: stand by because there's some pipeitters back in control now 412 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: and things are going to change. 413 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: Speaking to David Rutherford, former Navy seal and a host 414 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: of The David Rutherford Show and the Clay and Buck 415 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: podcast network, you guys should all go check it out. 416 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: Dave's going to have some deep dive into the tactics 417 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: and the strategy implication of what just happened here in Venezuela, 418 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: and I want to I want to ask you, Dave, 419 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: about the Cartel Mexico component about this in a second. 420 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: But first, you've been on whether it's a black Hawk 421 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: or a Chinook. I mean, you've been on the on 422 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: the helo going in in your case during the GWAT 423 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: days Afghanistan, knowing you're on that you're on that bird 424 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: and you're going after an HVT, your your Delta brothers 425 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: just did this in Venezuela. But what's the what's going 426 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: through your mind? Like, what's the focus? I mean, how 427 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: do you get ready to put literal boots on the 428 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: ground and go into a situation where you know you're 429 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 1: going to see combat and the enemy is ready for 430 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: you and you're gonna have to bring all your skills 431 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: to bear. 432 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: That's a great question. And I think from all the 433 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: guys that I know that were Tier one, obviously I 434 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: was not a Tier one operator, but did get to 435 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 3: suit up and conduct missions. You know, the biggest thing 436 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: is to remain calm and just relax. You know, you've 437 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: done so many dry runs, so many rehearsals. You know, 438 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: these guys are the top of the tump, right, They're 439 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: the elite of the elite, and so it's stain calm, 440 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: knowing what your role is, Stain focused, stain relax and 441 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: not getting spun up. As any normal human being would 442 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 3: you know their heart rate would be over you know, 443 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy five, one hundred and eighty five 444 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: beats per minute. These guys are chill at one hundred 445 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 3: and fifteen beats per minute. They've rehearsed, they know exactly 446 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: what's going to take place, and then if something does 447 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: go wrong, they adapt, assimilate, assess, and then continue to 448 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 3: kick ass as they did down in Crockets. 449 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: Also, I know I was going to ask you about 450 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: the cartels a rough but can you speak to and 451 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure my my in laws who have a lot 452 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: of aviators on that side. There's actually a Sealed Team 453 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: six guy on that side too, but a lot of 454 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: aviators on that side, the one sixtieth. I mean, the 455 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: stuff that I I remember seeing a little bit of 456 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: what I was. The agency that these guys and gals 457 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: can do is incredible. 458 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: They're they're the best pilots I've ever seen, I've ever 459 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 3: worked with. I mean, I got picked up on the 460 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: side of a mountain with like a twenty five hundred 461 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 3: foot cliff. They put the back gate on an edge 462 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 3: as we jumped on board. After recon you know, I've 463 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: done in innumerable amount of training stuff with them. They're 464 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: the best of the best, and they just keep getting better. 465 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: You know. I also to pay tribute to, you know, 466 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 3: your father in law there who just retired, you know, 467 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 3: the aviators that conducted the air strikes as well too, 468 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: to take out the you know, the air defense capabilities 469 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: they were. Everything was so succinct and so flawless like 470 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: this is the capability of the American military and intelligence community, 471 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 3: and when employed in the right capacity, it can disrupt 472 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: the global hedge of money, as it should. And that's 473 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: what we're using for right now we're receiving the distribution 474 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 3: of power in the world, and we're doing it with 475 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: precision and just absolute perfection. 476 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 4: David Rutherford right now encourage you to go sign up 477 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 4: for his podcast, part of the Clay and buck podcasting network. 478 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 4: You mentioned it's a top five all time operation that 479 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 4: you've seen. I'm curious if you could give us, based 480 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 4: on the evidence that's out there so far, compare and 481 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 4: contrast the difficulty of the Osama bin Laden raid with 482 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: the capture of Maduro Both Bucket myself as nowhere near 483 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 4: the experts that you are said that this seems to 484 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: be a far more impressive raid even than what went 485 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: on when ben Laden was taken out. Is that your impression? 486 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: How would you compare and contrast these two situations based 487 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 4: on your expertise. 488 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: Clay, That's a really, you know, unique way to assess 489 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: it in terms of, you know, the complexity issue, and 490 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: I think that's the only way. 491 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 7: I mean. 492 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: Obviously, I was in Pakistan with the agency and the 493 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: lead up in the aftermath of the been Loten rate 494 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 3: and have a lot of friends that were on the 495 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: but the size and scope of that op was not 496 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: probably what one tenth the size of this maybe one 497 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: twentieth the size of this, maybe even smaller. Obviously the 498 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: leg work done the you know, in preparation and the 499 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: hunting of down was unbelievable of bin Laden. But this 500 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 3: in terms of all the intelligence they had to collect 501 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 3: that you know, in the weeks or months leading up, uh, 502 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 3: and then the complexity and coordination of all these different units, 503 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 3: you know, no shade on you know, the loten rate. 504 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: Obviously that's from my generation unbelievable. But this, this operation 505 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 3: is I mean, we just went in and snatched a 506 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: world leader in a sleep and didn't take one casualty. 507 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: That just it's mind blowing to what our capabilities truly are. 508 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit actually, Rod of the 509 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: I think it's the opening of Air Force one, Right, 510 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: don't we swoop in? We send in a bunch of 511 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: guys on on parachutes and they snatch like the some 512 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: bad guys. 513 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: And there something that this is. 514 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 4: And some of the people may have watched, right, you 515 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 4: may have watched this building on what Buck's saying that 516 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 4: the Jack Ryan Show that now is a part of 517 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 4: the Amazon Prime that season two is basically this, that 518 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: this happens I have not watched that show, but I've 519 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 4: heard a lot of people and they've been reacting and saying, 520 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 4: this is basically that show. 521 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 3: I agree, that's one of my favorite seasons of the show. 522 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: I just I think, you know, it's always in those 523 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: first couple of seasons, whether it's Homeland or or Jack 524 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: Ryan like there, their narratives are so close to reality 525 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: that it's the truth. And you know, let's just take 526 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: a step back and look at Maduro forty five thousand 527 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: foot right, the illegal you know, leader of the in 528 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: a in a compromise election system. You know, the relationship, 529 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 3: the alleged relationship that Gary Bernstein and Martin Rodell point out, 530 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: and Ralph Pezzulo's incredible books Stolen Elections. You know, they 531 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: they did a ton of human in you know, research 532 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: with you know, the corruption of their Venezuela's control over 533 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: alleged control over smartmatic and dominion. Then you've got the 534 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: Cartelda Solis and the impact of what they're doing around 535 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: the world in the h in terms of the international 536 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: drug flows, illegal arm flows, in illegal oil. Right, the 537 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: whole oil thing is I mean, think about if we 538 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: are able to kind of strangle the oil outflows out 539 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 3: of that country. Who does that input what countries? How 540 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: does it affect their governors, How does it affect their 541 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: preparation for what they're doing around the world. I mean, 542 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: this is like one of those major chess moves that 543 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: it takes. Is very complicated to understand the totality of it, 544 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: but it is one of the most remarkable things that 545 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: I've ever seen, obviously in my operational lifetime, and then 546 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: on a grander contact that we've seen in modern geopolitical 547 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 3: tactics and initiatives. I mean, you know, you go back 548 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 3: to what ten years ago in our South America, Central America, 549 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 3: you know, operations in terms of you know, quelling the 550 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: rise of socialism, communism, whatever you want to call it, 551 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: was almost obsolete. And now we're literally writing or changing 552 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: the global power hegemony with these types of missions in 553 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: our own hemisphere. I absolutely love it. 554 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: Right, how many countries do you think, based on what 555 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 4: you see here from Venezuela, do you think the United 556 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 4: States could go into and grab a leader like this 557 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 4: and get out with no casualties? I mean ninety five 558 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 4: percent of the countries in the world, ninety eight percent. 559 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 4: I mean, if you're iron or heck. I mean, maybe 560 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 4: some of these other countries that have nuclear weapons, like 561 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 4: North Korea are saying this could never happen. 562 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: To us because of that. 563 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 4: But don't all those leaders have to be looking around saying, 564 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 4: if the US can do this to Venezuela, they can 565 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: do this to me really easily. 566 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: One hundred percent clay. And that's I think that's the 567 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: posture President Trump and Secretary Headset are are and you know, 568 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: Secretary Ruvial are saying to everybody, this is a notice. 569 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: This is a notice to the world. Listen, America is 570 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 3: done playing the games of the last administration, the Obama administration, 571 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: uh even you know in some capacity, the Bush administration. 572 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: Right where we're we're now, we're going to be incredibly 573 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: focused on what we're going to do, have a reason 574 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 3: behind it that's going to alter. Right. Like I said, 575 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: this global hegemony that's been globalist in nature is now 576 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: back getting back to American superiority. 577 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: Right. 578 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: What does your operator spider sense tell you the possibility of, 579 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: let's you say, an increased ops tempo against cartels to 580 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: the south of our border in Mexico. 581 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what Seinbaum came out. You know, it 582 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: didn't quite condemn it, uh, you know, gave kind of 583 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: soft language on it. You know, I believe that she 584 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: is absolutely quaking in her boots right now. I think 585 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 3: the cartels down there are probably you know, gearing up 586 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: and starting to realize, hey, this is a different game 587 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: these guys are playing. They'll probably go underground for a 588 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 3: while and get real quiet, just to hope it passes by. 589 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 3: But I think everybody's unnoticed. In particular, if you're a 590 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 3: cartel and you're engaged in any type of drug trafficking 591 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: that directly impacts American civilians, then guess what you're You 592 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 3: probably just got put on the the Jaysa door knock list, 593 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: which is a list. 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