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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Here

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Speaker 1: we come. Welcome to Money Making Conversations. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: from Sean McDonald. It's important to understand that everybody travels

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Speaker 1: a different path to success. That's because your brand is different.

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Speaker 1: That challenges your face in your life in different So

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Speaker 1: I guess that's just question to everybody. Stop reading other

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Speaker 1: people's success stories and start writing your own. Now, you

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Speaker 1: could be motivated by their success because their stories can

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Speaker 1: offer direction to help you get to your dreams, but

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Speaker 1: it's their dreams that you're trying to make your dreams

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Speaker 1: and that's not fair. So really it's your community expert

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Speaker 1: you're planning that will get you there on my show,

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Speaker 1: I try to bring a star on that exemplify they're

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Speaker 1: committed effort, their planning and their longevity. My next guest

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Speaker 1: so exemplifies that. Rocko di Spirito. Rocko is a jade

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Speaker 1: selling author who has dedicated to proving that healthy and

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Speaker 1: Wine Magazine's Best New Chef, People Magazine's Sexiest Chef. I

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Speaker 1: Gourmet Magazine's cover America's Most Exciting Young Chef. His health

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Speaker 1: America's CBS Talk, ABC's The View, and My Friend Dr Oz.

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Speaker 1: Please work with the money making conversations, My man, Roco,

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Speaker 1: how you doing? Hello? Hello were Sean? You read the

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Speaker 1: whole thing I have to hold provided you with thank you.

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Speaker 1: I would tell you, you know, actually cut down. I

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Speaker 1: cut down because when you're reported towns like Steve Harvey

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Speaker 1: and Steven A. Smith and work with you give people

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Speaker 1: their career credit, and you know you have a career.

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Speaker 1: Now you you're interesting guy because I we hear the

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Speaker 1: word healthy, I hear the word food. Now I'm just

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Speaker 1: letting you know what you're talking to, rock Hole. I'm

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Speaker 1: a guy who has Um Crispy Cream app on my phone. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're talking just how you're talking to. I go to

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Speaker 1: when I do that, Rock I said, can you get

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Speaker 1: excuse me? It is crazy? It is crazy, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. So I want to look at the people

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Speaker 1: about my good ship. I want to set the stage

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Speaker 1: for our relationship. You say, I don't want you to

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Speaker 1: con you. I don't say you like I'm doing something

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Speaker 1: right in life. I enjoy our life, but it's important

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Speaker 1: At the same time, COVID has told us that we

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Speaker 1: bring you on our show, just because your book, and

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Speaker 1: also we're gonna talk about some some things we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do by super Bowl time for for nice eats, but

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Speaker 1: and the and the reason why healthy eating and healthy

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Speaker 1: know you must be working out or balancing your behavior

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Speaker 1: in other ways because you're in great shape. You look amazing.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you're in good health. So I'd like to know

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Speaker 1: before you let people believe that you're crispy cream app

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Speaker 1: to stay in such good shape. You obviously worked out, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I do a lot of stretching now and stretching okay,

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Speaker 1: and you're probably very tip and you're probably staying busy

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Speaker 1: everything that you just described. So if you have a

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Speaker 1: Rocko's Keto comfort food, diet e foods you miss still

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Speaker 1: telling me you have to hear that, Rock, Well, you

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Speaker 1: sure we'll bring back the memories. That was the way

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Speaker 1: The ideas you can eat the foods you love, still

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Speaker 1: Right because at the end of the day, we're not

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Speaker 1: So I gotta you gotta be able to uh hit

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Speaker 1: this afternoon with this book. Uh it sounds amazing. Thank

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Speaker 1: And that's what you'r sir, rocos keyto comfort food. Died

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Speaker 1: eat the foods you miss and still lose up to

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Speaker 1: you'll see big results. Let's talk about your book just

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Speaker 1: a little bit more sure. Yeah, do you have like

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Speaker 1: like a morning, a breakfast, lunch and dinner type of regiment?

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Speaker 1: I do, yes, so, Uh. The book has diet plants.

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Speaker 1: It has four four tiers tier once or two, three,

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Speaker 1: calories to larger amounts of calories, but also from extreme

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Speaker 1: keyto to a Keto friendly diet. So at some point

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Speaker 1: keto becomes um a little bit unsustainable because you don't

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Speaker 1: want to eat that amount of fat for the rest

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Speaker 1: of your life. You want to get into eating healthy vegetables,

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Speaker 1: eating a lot of plant based foods. And this book

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Speaker 1: gets you from there to there. So, but it starts

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Speaker 1: that for three days, and that's called the cleans. So

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Speaker 1: bone broth gives you all a necessary protein and fat

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Speaker 1: that you need to sustain you know, your energy, and

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about a rich, powerfully favorite bone broth

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Speaker 1: and Keto coffee, which is black coffee with either a

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Speaker 1: three days, you'll get your body to understand that you're serious.

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Speaker 1: Your body will immediately understand something is different, and it

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Speaker 1: will convert it's car burning engines into fat burning engines

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Speaker 1: pretty quickly. During that time, you have to stay a

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Speaker 1: hundred percent hydrated. So let me explain hydration. Your your

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Speaker 1: muscle cells are seventy water. They're made out of water.

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Speaker 1: If they are deprived of hydration, if they are hydrogen starved,

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Speaker 1: they do not work. It's like trying to run us

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Speaker 1: can't do it. So you have to stay hydrated. And

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Speaker 1: staying hydrated means drinking at least four of these a day,

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Speaker 1: if not five or six. It should be half your

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Speaker 1: of storing it. And those are all parts of getting

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Speaker 1: into the Keto diet. Then in Tier two I add

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Speaker 1: a twenty eight day plan. I'm gonna do it. You

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Speaker 1: habits very very frequently. So, but ketos Keto diets are

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Speaker 1: be looking for as well. Energy. Wow, thank you for

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Speaker 1: really interesting about your whole career and just go tracking,

636
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, like you came into my life. And the

637
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: first interview I did on Money Making Conversation with you

638
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: and Martel and it was a it was an inspirational

639
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: interview about a couple that work their way through high

640
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: school and beautiful kids. And then the second time I

641
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: got you on the show, Used by Yourself, And now

642
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: the third time I have you on the show. I

643
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: saw the episode, the premier episode of I would say

644
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: after the episode, you're gonna really be by yourself? After

645
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: the three episode you buy yourself down. You ain't kind

646
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: of by yourself. You buy yourself in trying to change. Well,

647
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: I understand because you know, if you're fan of the show.

648
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the show, and you brought me

649
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: into the series, you know, and my boy Carlos came,

650
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: he created his that could produce to the series very talent,

651
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: the EP of Doctor Serious type dramas. Here's another series

652
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: on on called Bell Collective. But we're talking about love

653
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: and marriage Huntsville and the question. You know, this ain't

654
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: a messy show. This is a show about watching an entrepreneur,

655
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: watching a young lady. I still consume you very young,

656
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, minded, and it almost it almost looks like

657
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: a serious where I got to see you grow as

658
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: a woman as a mom, and then the other half

659
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: of you do want to see that same growth. Am

660
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: I correct? So you know what I will say is

661
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: definitely being a part of um the Kingdom Raine family

662
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: and being a part of lot of marriage Huntspill. You know,

663
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: you're absolutely correct in terms of the growth that you've seen.

664
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: And that's really because you know, as you go through

665
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: things in life and you experience certain things, those are

666
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: really the things that help shape and mold you to

667
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: be who you are and um, who you're supposed to be.

668
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: If that's really what my viewers have been able to

669
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: witness the past few seasons, UM, is me really going

670
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: through one of life's biggest challenges. UM, when one of

671
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: the you know, supposed to be strongest buns um is

672
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: broken and disconnected and what it looks like to maneuver

673
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: through those type of waters. And so that is how

674
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: you guys have been able to really you know, as

675
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: you say, have seen me grow because you watch me

676
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: go through, um, something that a lot of people can't

677
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: even go through, but I closed doors and I've had

678
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: to live it out loud publicly, so it's been a

679
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: little bit different. UM. What I will say, UM, you know,

680
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: when it comes to U X about my you know

681
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: Martel and that supporting that growth, what I will say

682
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: is that there was a time in our marriage in

683
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: our life. You know, I'm not gonna sit here and

684
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: at like we had a whole bunch of years of

685
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: some terrible marriage, because that's just not the case. UM.

686
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: We had a beautiful, beautiful union, beautiful time, UM, beautiful

687
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: you know, family, children, UM, a real friendship definitely, you know,

688
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: we were definitely great friends. And so I was saying

689
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: that there was a time when he definitely pushed me

690
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: and m motivated me, and really, you know stood, you know,

691
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: kind of stood with me with some of the things

692
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to do. Um. But sometimes in life, people

693
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: just start kind of going different ways and things change.

694
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: I did an interview earlier and I shared with them that,

695
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, O, studies show that people change every five

696
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: to seven years, and you know that's just real. No

697
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: one's gonna stay the same. You know, I really, um,

698
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: because because I care about you a lot. You know,

699
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: I have six sisters, so I consider you one of them.

700
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: Six uh too and passway. So I'm asking you to

701
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: feel in one of those slots in my life because

702
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: I I believe in you. And when I watched the show,

703
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: especially premiere episode this season, you know I was I

704
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: was pained a little bit because I could, you know,

705
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: we're watching you on TV play out some emotions, especially

706
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: when Martell talked about he going to the custody of

707
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: the children, and you really, you really live up the

708
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: room because you weren't gonna let this act like this

709
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: even sense of a possibility. These are four beautiful kids

710
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: that you've delivered to the world and then all earlier

711
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: in the episodes, by the way she showed off her

712
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: little body, by the way she showed off her little body,

713
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: just embarrassing everybody in the nation. She didn't dropped four

714
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: kids come around the corners, like it looks like she's

715
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: like a fresh out of high school body. So we're

716
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that. Let's go back today the emotional

717
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: I just had to throw that out there and like

718
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: step on her because that was unfair. That was unfair, Melandie,

719
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: Like you have seen a little bit more than I

720
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: have seen. Just know that, well I don't here I saw,

721
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: I said, she come out of Poe destiny. She like

722
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: just dropped one you destinely whoa my goodness girl? Where

723
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: you know what can I say? It's time for me

724
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: to show the where what's going on with Melody? Hell okay?

725
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: And then we go forward. You know you're back, and

726
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: you know because you was there a land with your

727
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: brother hanging out in the back, you know, drinking a

728
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: little white and didn't get your act together for two

729
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: weeks and then now the reality is back. You're in

730
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 1: the house with the man who, let's say, you don't

731
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: trust you need with children that you love that you're born.

732
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: Like you said, you're not here to talk about like

733
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: this relationship was a bad relationship. But when he says

734
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: the possibility that he wants to get full custom to kids,

735
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: you lost it. Yeah, you know, UM, it's one of

736
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: those things where I think for most parents when it

737
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: comes to your children, that's just that's one thing you

738
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: just really don't play about, no matter who it is, obviously,

739
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: UM and so UM we all have those triggers, certain

740
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: things that trigger us and unfortunately a lot of times

741
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: people know what your triggers are. UM. And so for me,

742
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to being a you know, a woman

743
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: of many hats, being an entrepreneur, being a mom, being

744
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 1: a white all of those things, you know, me being

745
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: able to um fully engage in all of those roles

746
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: was one of the things that was a problem um

747
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: in the marriage and one of those things that was

748
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: somewhat trying. You know, I would say he tried to

749
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: use against me at times, UM, And that was when

750
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: it came to the kids. And so for him to

751
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: make a statement like that despite knowing deep down that

752
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: I'm really wearing all these hats very well, like they're

753
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: my kids are very well taken care of. We do

754
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: the occasions we do chips. They've been out of the country.

755
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: Hell I hadn't even been out of the country when

756
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: I was their age. Okay, Um, so it's like, don't

757
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: play with me like that. And in the show. But

758
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: but this series, as as I see, because you know,

759
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: I can't wait till this the next episode and the

760
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: next episode out there, because really it's about watching the

761
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: I on this shows about motivation. It's about people overcoming

762
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: furious pope of walking in the darkness, walking into the

763
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: unknown and you. And that's why I'm standing on this

764
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: a little bit because I want a lot of people

765
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: to hear this, because a lot of people don't go

766
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: to the next level of life because they fear change,

767
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: They fear the unknown, they fear the what ilf what

768
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: if it's not something I expect? And you're doing a

769
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: courageous thing with your life because this is not This

770
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: is bigger than the television show to me, because it's

771
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: about you, because when the lights go down and cut off,

772
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: you really live in the life that we're just getting

773
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: little bits and pieces of. With that being said, what's

774
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: the next path for Melody what's the that's what now

775
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: path for you and career playing in because you know

776
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: I call you sometimes. You said, we show I got

777
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: people in l A. I got people in Huntsville. I

778
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: got a team around you because you know, I'll be

779
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: talking to Union every time I talk to you. Know,

780
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: it's more advancement in the in the various business ventures,

781
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: more opportunity that you want to engage in, and you

782
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: surround yourself with a much stronger team that allows you

783
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: to win. So talk about that. And you know what,

784
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: it's so funny that you mentioned a team and just

785
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, the people that you have around you. I

786
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, you can't do anything alone in life. Period.

787
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: You've got to have a team, a team who believes

788
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: in you, that supports you, um, that pushes you even

789
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: on the days when you barely can push yourself. And

790
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm so thankful and blessed that I have been surrounded. Um.

791
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: You know, God just placed the right people in my

792
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: life at the right time. You know, I can speak

793
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: all the way, you know, to my management team. As

794
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: you said, you know, I have, you know, a team

795
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: in l A. I have a team in Atlanta. UM,

796
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: And when I look at the time that they came

797
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: into my life. And they're older than me. And that's

798
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: another thing. It's kind of crazy because it's like, I'm

799
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: thirty five, but God has surrounded me with people who

800
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: are older than me and who have so much wisdom,

801
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, and that wisdom comes from their own life experiences.

802
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: So when I hear their stories of things they've experienced

803
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: and that they went through early on in life and

804
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: what I'm going through right now, I know that it

805
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: was a divine connection and meant for them to be

806
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: in my life. And so, um, you know, we're we're

807
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: always working on things, and I hope that's what people also.

808
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: You know, of course our reality show you have a

809
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: little bit of drama, but I hope that people really

810
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: get to um tune in and pick up and understand

811
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: and see that, you know, the sky really, you know,

812
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: is the limit. It doesn't matter what what you go through,

813
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: what you experienced. I wake up every day and I

814
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: put a smile on my face and I'm hey, good morning,

815
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: how are you. Positive affirmations all day period, um, And

816
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: from there it has just really allowed us to move

817
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: been to some different areas. I have music that I'm

818
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: working on I can't wait. I've teased my fans a

819
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: little bit um with my song by dropping it on

820
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: social media pieces here and there. Um. So I have

821
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: music I'm working on. I'm actually about to go in

822
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: the student and record the second song because I'm done

823
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: with the first one. Um. And then of course also

824
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: i have my acting career um that I'm working on

825
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: as well. I actually just finished doing some acting stuff.

826
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: I've been in Atlanta doing a movie um the past week.

827
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: So just moving, shaking and trying to fully um being

828
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: the purpose and my God given purpose. Because life is

829
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: so short. You have to wake up every day. You

830
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: have to make it count. You have to make every hour,

831
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: every minute, in every Seclet Meller, don't you ever because

832
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: even in this yeares I gotta mad at you because

833
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: you know I'm based in the lat He was in

834
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: Atlanta for two weeks. Okay. Then in the interview right

835
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: back where I just got back from l A, I

836
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: mean from Atlanta. You know, I just got back from

837
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: no call, no text, because you're you know, no no

838
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: no no something, no no, no, no no up whatever

839
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: she had dar me in a minute. Hey, Richelle, how

840
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: you're doing well? This is one thing I love about her,

841
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: And I responded back to her, I said, look, she

842
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: will recommend people to be on my show. I mean

843
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: and uh, and she's supportive. That's not I laugh at

844
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: her in a good way. It's not a bad lad

845
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: because here she is. You know, she's out there trying

846
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: to make her career work. She's trying to be a

847
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: good person because she is a good person. But she

848
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: will not hesitate connecting somebody for an opportunity. And that's

849
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: a quality that when you say, Richard, why do you

850
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: like Melody Hope? Why do you Why are you always

851
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: champion her? Because she's so busy champion other people, she's

852
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: not about You know, a lot of people in competition

853
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: because it is competition, they fear I ain't gonna learn

854
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: nobody get my hook up. I'm not gonna let anybody

855
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: get my connection. And that's not you talk to us

856
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: about that personality all you know. Let me tell you so,

857
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: I am big on making connections. I will be honest,

858
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm that person who and I'm not gonna be like, oh,

859
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: i've seen you the number. Later if we're having a

860
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: conversation and I know someone who can maybe help catapult

861
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: you to the next level, take you to the next

862
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: level in your life or goals career wise, whatever it is. Oh,

863
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, Okay, I'm testing. I'm sending you

864
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: the number right now. You want to call him right now? Like,

865
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: That's what I love and I love to do that.

866
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: That's just a genuine part of me, um, because I

867
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: feel that you never know what someone else can do,

868
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: whether it's a simple word, whether it's you know, a

869
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: simple connection that can just really change someone's entire life.

870
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: And I have to believe that, Um, through that goodness

871
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: of my heart and purity of all of my intentions,

872
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: that that is why God has continued to bless me,

873
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: and he has continued to look over me and put

874
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: me you know, the paths of the right people, because

875
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: I'm always looking to find a way to bring people

876
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: together on the same path. You know, there's enough out

877
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: here for everyone. And if we stopped being so selfish

878
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: and we become more selfless, man, let me tell you,

879
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: we learn how to come together. And I don't say

880
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: it's always easy, because it's not. But if we can

881
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: learn how to come together, there's just so much that

882
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: we can do. So Yes, I love connecting people, and

883
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: you do a great job of it. Now, before I

884
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: go on to the series Behind every Man, I want

885
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: to talk about other characters on the show that I

886
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: shouldn't say character other other couples, other people, because it's

887
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: got more expansive on the show. You know, we see

888
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: more on this season. We see more of a Kimmy

889
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: and uh Maurice's son and then of course a team

890
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: shirt they got the Cigar plays Black that they're building

891
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: out this season. Give us a little sneak preview of

892
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: what's coming up on this season because of the fact that,

893
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: uh My, when I tell people to watch the show

894
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: because I'm a fan of Love and Marriage Huntsville, it's

895
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: because their individuals, who are black individuals in in a

896
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: town like Huntsville, they have big city problems and that's

897
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: the fun. I think all the couples, in some shape

898
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: form or fashion, UM bring a great dynamic to the show.

899
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: And I feel that, you know, um, this season, you

900
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: guys are going to be able to see more business

901
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: moves taking place, which is something I'm very proud of

902
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: because you know, I don't think anyone goes into rally

903
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: reality TV hoping that there will be drama It's just

904
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: kind of one of those things that that can end

905
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: up happening because life and you know, so when you

906
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: imagine being put in situations where maybe you would have

907
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: avoided that person for another month or two because you

908
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: know you kind of ain't feeling them right now, then

909
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: you see them instead in a day, so sometimes those

910
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: emotions may still be up. So you know that just

911
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: that's the piece that brings the drama in. But um,

912
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to our audience really seeing, um, you know,

913
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: especially with the climate of the economy and where we

914
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: are as a culture, as people, where we are as

915
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: a country right now, that was important to show unity

916
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: and how despite differences, despite um, you know, difficulties within

917
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: the friendships or the relationships, at some point in time,

918
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: you guys are going to see, you know, some of

919
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: us come together and be able to do some great

920
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: things and and actually be able to be in the

921
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: same room pushing for a positive purpose or a positive cause.

922
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna see businesses, you know, excelling and growing in

923
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, individuals figuring out different paths of entrepreneurship. Um.

924
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: And so those are the things that I'm really looking

925
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: forward to being displayed and showing to see it and

926
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: showing a lot the great thing about it. Now your masterclass,

927
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: which I saw kind of like boring out of COVID

928
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. Uh, create a lot of creative approaches to

929
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: us tell about the master classes. So HP a Holp

930
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: Preservation Academy. Um, that is my baby. Matter of fact,

931
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: I have a class tonight. So UM, what I do

932
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: is I've had the UM. You know, I just say

933
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: it's a complete blessing then opportunity to actually now it's

934
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: about a hundred and eighties since June, about a hundred

935
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: and eighty individuals. Um, I've been able to help them

936
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: become entrepreneurs and start businesses in property preservation, which is

937
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: a multibillion dollar industry that has been a white male

938
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: dominated industry for a very long time. Most of my students, however,

939
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: have been African American women. And so what I have

940
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: been doing is, you know, having um weekly meetings with them,

941
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: one on one cost with them, helping them set up

942
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: their LLCs, their business checking, teaching them the game about

943
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: this industry, and helping them get contracts. Meaning when they

944
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: get contracts, they start receiving work from the bank and

945
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: they get paid um as they complete those work orders

946
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: and so um. I you know, it was, like you said,

947
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: born out of covid um. My first class started in

948
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: June of and it has been phenomenal, phenomenal. I'm very

949
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: thankful to God for you know, for that whole avenue

950
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: being opened for me. We know when God gave you

951
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: his ability to talk, because you've been talk. That's why

952
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: you to me. You know you always teach you about that.

953
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: You know, you just you don't know me, melody. We'll

954
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: be talking to me. We'll be talking in a little

955
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: direct DM and all that. Girl, give me your number

956
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: till all this a d M and back because it

957
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: DM me like texting her though that you say that

958
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: because earlier, like I said, I did an interview earlier

959
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: today and they said to me, they saying, oh yeah,

960
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: your manager said, we're gonna enjoy our interview. We all

961
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: enjoy because you love the talk. I said, oh, I

962
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: sound like she tried to throw a little side jam

963
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: up in there. I'm gonna make sure I call it

964
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: when we get done. Now here you go, and that

965
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: that that's why I love talking to you, because you

966
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: know there's a journey and I will never ever stop

967
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: you from your dreams. I will always encourage you, I

968
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: always will support you, I always will push you to

969
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: the next level because I know there are only greater opportunities.

970
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: You're at the right age and start discovering yourself and

971
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: pushing those dreams. Because a lot of people wait till

972
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: they farty fifty, or I'll wait to my kids graduate,

973
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: or I'll wait till I wait to get out of college.

974
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: All that weight, all that weight, all that weight, and

975
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: that's not your DNA. And that's what I love about

976
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: talking to you, and I encourage people who listen to

977
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: these shows. When you when I get a person on

978
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: the air, like you, listen to what she's saying. Listen,

979
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: you know there are setbacks in her in her life

980
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: there and she don't let that. Become a champion talk

981
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: about that, you know, I will say that. You know,

982
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: So I got married when I was twenty two, and

983
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: you have this whole thing planned out of what you

984
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: think your life will be. I don't think anyone gets

985
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: married um expecting or hoping for a divorce that happen.

986
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: You think that that's your forever, and you think that

987
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: that is how your life will be. And so For me,

988
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: I went from feeling like I had everything together. I

989
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: had these beautiful children, I had anything I wanted to get.

990
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: I could go get when I wanted to. You know,

991
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: I had my husband, We had these businesses. You know,

992
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: we're we're being able to travel and go whenever we

993
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: want to, and then boom, just like that, there's a change.

994
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: And so at first, you know, of course, you you know,

995
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: the heartbreak and the disappointment and the tears and the

996
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: depression and all of those things that come with um,

997
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: you know something, it's major's infidelity hitting your marriage. I

998
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: went through all of that and UM, I went through

999
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: a lot of different layers of it. So um for me,

1000
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, going through those things and experiencing such a

1001
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: big change in life. And then I didn't know that

1002
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna have to play it out on national television.

1003
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: Even so, that was another thing, you know what I'm saying.

1004
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: When we started filming the first season, UM, I had

1005
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: just recently found out about, you know, what had been occurring. However,

1006
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: I thought everything was done over and we were good.

1007
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: Well right when we started shooting, I find out, oh,

1008
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: it ain't done and over, we ain't good. So that's

1009
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: when people got you know what I'm saying, kind of

1010
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: got all the other um, and so all the other

1011
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: emotions and other sides of melody, the angry side. UM.

1012
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: But you know, I didn't expect that that was something

1013
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: that was gonna be played out on TV. I didn't

1014
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: think that was gonna be continue to be a part

1015
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: of my life story, my marriage story. UM. And so

1016
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: now here I am, you know, going through a divorce

1017
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: with four children, um, and trying to make sure that

1018
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm taking care of me and keeping myself together, but

1019
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: then also making sure that I'm you know, there for

1020
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: my kids and helping them to keep it together too. Um.

1021
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: And at the same time, still refusing to allow the

1022
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: choices of someone else to affect my purpose and the

1023
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: goals that I have set for myself. So it's a lot.

1024
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot, and it's a lot of moving pieces.

1025
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: But let me tell you, I just get up every

1026
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: single day and I start moving those pieces absolutely. You know,

1027
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: on Saturday night you can see her series. All right,

1028
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it your series, Loving Marriage, Hunts Fear.

1029
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: That's that's why I watch. I'm just doing on Saturday.

1030
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: I'm not just watching the air Bound show. I watched

1031
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: a girl melody. Now guess what it's gonna be this Saturday.

1032
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: Gonna be back to back melody, Hope, Melody, Hope, hind

1033
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: to night. That's what we're gonna pull it up to

1034
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: our block. Behind every Man, I'm just let everybody know.

1035
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: She calos king makes me head Now. This is this serious, right,

1036
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: this this she got me. He got me mad. See

1037
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: because see, I watched this series that you're hosting, and

1038
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm mad. I'm going to like he thought of that

1039
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: wrong because it's such a beautiful series, because I got

1040
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: six sisters. So why did I think of this? Because

1041
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: you know you have you have more Kurt Franklin and

1042
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: his wife Tammy on the show. You have the wife

1043
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 1: of white Cliff John on the show. You have the wife.

1044
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that uh Neil was married. Seriously,

1045
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was married. And that the only

1046
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: he's on He's on the show, and it's it's like

1047
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: DJ Envy and his wife, but it's the wife's who

1048
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: are the stars of the show. Behind every Man? How

1049
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: did you become a part of this series? And I'm

1050
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 1: just about one thing. I'm gonna tell you the truth about.

1051
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: This is an engaging series. Well done the women. You

1052
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: get a personal journey about them. It's not a serious

1053
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: that they're trying to hook you in with a famous husband. No, no, no,

1054
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: it's about these women. How they have survived physical drama,

1055
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: sometimes abuse, sometimes, near life death experiences sometimes and each

1056
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: one of them have survived and they coming to the

1057
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,640
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Speaker 1: why it's so important, um, to speak out loud your

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I shared with Carlos a long

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Speaker 1: time ago, you know, my goals in terms of hosting

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Speaker 1: when the opportunity came, and you know, he was awarded

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to do Behind every Man, you know, he

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Speaker 1: And I'm like what And he was like, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do another show. This is what's gonna call and we

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Speaker 1: want you to host. I'm like what. Really are you serious?

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Speaker 1: And so you know it went from there and um,

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Speaker 1: it was another again, something filmed during the pandemic, So

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Speaker 1: of course we had different parameters. Of course, we would

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Speaker 1: have loved to have had it where you know, I

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Speaker 1: could have flown into different places and actually sat down

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Speaker 1: in person with these individuals, but we've got to be safe.

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Speaker 1: So we still made it happen and made it, you know,

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Speaker 1: made it work. Um, and for me when he called

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Speaker 1: me that day, I'll never forget and he had, um

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Speaker 1: his other producer Angela on the phone as well. I

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Speaker 1: teared up when he shared with me what Behind every

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Speaker 1: Man would be about. And here's why. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm big on women empowerment. I'm big on strong women

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Speaker 1: and women, you know, just being coming together and really

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Speaker 1: pushing one another and being able to be authentic and

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Speaker 1: trans parent and share your journey, share those you know,

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Speaker 1: we love the glamour, we love to show off the

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Speaker 1: Rose Royce, the Lamborghinis and all this thing. However, right

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Speaker 1: being able to show the times that weren't so good

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Speaker 1: and talk about that, which is what really helped you

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Speaker 1: move to the next level. I love when people can

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Speaker 1: be transparent. I think that's the reason that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people connect with me on love and marriage Himesville.

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Speaker 1: So when he shared that with me and I heard

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Speaker 1: what it would be about, I just literally teared up.

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Speaker 1: I said, wow, Wow. It was just something within me.

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Speaker 1: And I'm big on intuition and being led by the spirit,

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Speaker 1: and there was just something within me that was like, Yes,

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Speaker 1: this right here is God sent for you. The experiencing

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Speaker 1: what I was experiencing in my marriage and knowing that,

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Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't going to be too much longer

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Speaker 1: before it wasn't you know, I wasn't married anymore. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't about that. It was about what I love to do,

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Speaker 1: shine a lot eight on other women, like you know,

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Speaker 1: I do my mamos with Melody event Um, I always

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Speaker 1: award women Women on Woman on Purpose, award, Um still

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Speaker 1: I Thrive Woman of the Year and all these different things.

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Speaker 1: And so any way that I can, um just really

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Speaker 1: shine a light on women who are doing some amazing things,

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Speaker 1: That's what I love to do. And so this was

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Speaker 1: just I mean, this was perfect and it was truly

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Speaker 1: an amazing experience. Well, I'm gonna tell you, I'm a fan.

1114
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Speaker 1: I get to see you back to back the back

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Speaker 1: to back to back. I know that, Melanie. I want

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Speaker 1: to I wanna. I want to back the back the

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Speaker 1: back Melanie whole Saturday on Network. Because you're gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna do it because we all over. Oh there

1119
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Speaker 1: you go, there you go. The thing about it is

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Speaker 1: that I'm so proud of you, and uh, I watched

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00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: this journey. You know when I said that, I'm sincere

1122
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: and I know you do a lot of interviews and

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Speaker 1: watching you grow, and like I said, I've seen this

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00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: journey play out, and and when you come on my show,

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Speaker 1: we can have honest conversations. And the only thing only

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Speaker 1: negative in your little book is you come to Atlanta

1127
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Speaker 1: and you don't come see your board. Okay, because I

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Speaker 1: bought a new building. That happen again. I bought a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I gotta show y'all. I gotta, I gotta,

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Speaker 1: I gotta you gotta take a picture bout my new

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Speaker 1: business sign all that stuff. I gotta. I gotta get

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Speaker 1: some of your shine on my building. Okay, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it absolutely well. I will to hold you

1134
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Speaker 1: but again, thank you again again. You know, any time

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Speaker 1: your flyer come out, I gotta promote you this weekend

1136
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Speaker 1: and uh, you know your Siroty remember and all that

1137
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Speaker 1: good stuff, and uh, girl, you know, keep winning and

1138
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Speaker 1: keep I got your support and your brother. You can

1139
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: tell your brother to call. But with a little time

1140
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Speaker 1: behind here in Atlanta as himself, you know, he got

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Speaker 1: nothing to do absolutely, so that would be great, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I love you already know. I love you. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for you know, you're always opening your doors and

1144
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: opening you know, but just being welcoming with me coming

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01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: in on the show. I appreciate that so much. It's

1146
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: kind of like like you said, sometimes they're just those

1147
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: guys given connections. And I feel like from the first interview,

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Speaker 1: we've just always you've been what you're saying that you are.

1149
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: You've been encouraging. UM. You let me know multiple times

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Speaker 1: that I have your support, and I really appreciate that, UM,

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01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: and I love you know. We have to pull strength

1152
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: from one another, especially when we're going through different, you know,

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01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: difficult times. It's so important for us to pull strength

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Speaker 1: from one another. And you, my fans, the viewers of

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Speaker 1: Love and Marriage Huntsville, everyone has been my family, my

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Speaker 1: management team, everyone has just been so amazing and I

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Speaker 1: know I wouldn't be where I am right now if

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Speaker 1: it wasn't for all of you. Awesome. Well, she's the

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Speaker 1: star of a Saturday night on the Own Network, Loving Marriage,

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Speaker 1: Huntsville and um you know behind every Man. Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: my show. She's the star, Melody Holt, Melody, thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on. Money making Conversations again. Sticky notes, email alerts,

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Speaker 1: to get inside each other's mind, walk a mile in

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Speaker 1: my shoes, wac a mile in my shoes shoes. We've

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Speaker 1: all felt left out, and for some that feeling lasts

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Speaker 1: more than a moment. We can change that. Learn how

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Speaker 1: it belonging begins with us dot org. Brought to you

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Speaker 1: by the Act Council. Welcome out in the machines. Look

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Speaker 1: I bring people on the show to talk about the

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Speaker 1: effort that they're putting, the committed effort, the effort to

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Speaker 1: be successful. My next guest is one of those people.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Christina Anthony. You know we already talked

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Speaker 1: a little bit. She's based in Los Angeles. She's from

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Speaker 1: Chicago Vibe Way of East St. Louis. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about that because I was traveling to stand up comedian.

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Speaker 1: So I've been in St. Louis, I've been in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: and I've definitely been in Los Angeles. She's a mostly

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Speaker 1: talented actress, writer, vocalist, and comedian. She's originally from the

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Speaker 1: Chicago comedy scene and is best known as an Alarm

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Speaker 1: or the featured Second City, which we all know I

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Speaker 1: never went there. It's a talent. I know that because

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Speaker 1: I never had an improvisational skill. That's something I could

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Speaker 1: not do. I would tell anybody I cannot act, but

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Speaker 1: I can tell you a good joke. She's three times

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Speaker 1: an award nominated Sketch Revenue Sketch Sketch performer and performed

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Speaker 1: thousands of shows for Chicago Larties. Currently, Christina is a

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Speaker 1: series regular on the ABC's Mixes, a Black Is spin off.

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Speaker 1: Christina currently starts at Denise on ABC's series, returning for

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Speaker 1: a second season on Tuesday, January twenty six. What you

1205
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: call regular check, regular check, regular check of this year one?

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Speaker 1: Please work with the money making conversation. She looks like

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Speaker 1: a diva than me, she says. She does stand up,

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Speaker 1: but she got that Deeva looked out. Pat y'all please

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Speaker 1: work with Christina Anthony. Hey, Sean, thanks for having me. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, you know, you know, let me you say,

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Speaker 1: a multi talented actress, writer, vocalists. We stopped right there

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Speaker 1: right now. You look like you're about the bus out

1213
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Speaker 1: with a good old I'm telling you, you know what,

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Speaker 1: that's really how I got my start was doing musicals

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Speaker 1: in uh, in Chicago, I really got to start there.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I love to do musical theater, and

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Speaker 1: I've worked off Broadway in New York. But where I

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Speaker 1: really found my moves was like that funny part in

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Speaker 1: the musical. And I would remember I would go to

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Speaker 1: auditions or I would be in a show and they're like, look,

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Speaker 1: we need to work on this. This dancing, for sure,

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Speaker 1: you need to practice. But the and the singing, everybody

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Speaker 1: can get better at that. But the comedy, they're like,

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Speaker 1: you have this down. And but the dancing. But the dancing,

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Speaker 1: though they said you couldn't dance. The dancing a black

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Speaker 1: person couldn't dance. You know we could, we we could,

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Speaker 1: we could do. We could talk about that. Now. Well

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Speaker 1: it's it's different kinds of dancing now, you know in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: You know were they dance in Chicago. You know that

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Speaker 1: come on, step, come on, come on, come on now.

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Speaker 1: And you're telling me in Chicago you couldn't step. I

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Speaker 1: can step. But you when you go to Broadway for

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Speaker 1: the Lion King, they don't want to see you do

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Speaker 1: some old lounge dancing in your church shoes. They want

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Speaker 1: to see some real dancing, So yeah, not form a chain,

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Speaker 1: but I got it together. So I've done some dancing

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Speaker 1: off Broadway. But comedy is my sweet spot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what comes naturally. You know. You know my history.

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01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: I left IBM to pursue a career stand up comedian,

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Speaker 1: The def Jam BT, all the comedy shows, UH Road

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Speaker 1: on comedy, sitcom. So I cut my teeth at comedy.

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Speaker 1: Comedy is why the basis of my success, you know,

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Speaker 1: So what what? What's that natural? Always your people? Comedy

1244
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Speaker 1: is like making a sharp left or right turn when

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Speaker 1: you from the Pacific point of view, and that's where

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Speaker 1: laugh comes from. So so are you a comedy actress

1247
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Speaker 1: or comedian? You know what I would say? I started

1248
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: off as a comedy actress and then eventually yeah, I

1249
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Speaker 1: you know, earned my stripes and have done the rounds

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Speaker 1: in the stand up world. So yeah, I consider myself

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Speaker 1: a comic now. Um and then interesting enough, like when

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Speaker 1: I was in when I came to up in in

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Speaker 1: l A ten years now, you know, I started hitting

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Speaker 1: the stand up scene and people have been so warm

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Speaker 1: and so welcoming. I mean they hate you at first,

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Speaker 1: but once you're in, you in, and I think there

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Speaker 1: I started to just focus on my stand up, and

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Speaker 1: it was I was really surprised to end up on

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Speaker 1: Mixed Dish as an actors um and as an improviser.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's just you never know. So

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Speaker 1: that's why you just kind of keep just saying yes

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Speaker 1: to the next thing and keep honing those skills because

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01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: you don't know where the next opportunity is coming. But

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Speaker 1: don't ever, you know, just completely throw something away. So acting,

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Speaker 1: you know, now I have to focus on that because

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01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm giving other people's words. It's not my jokes. I'm

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Speaker 1: writing someone else's. But you're still have been in into

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01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: your personality because you know, as a sitcom writer, I

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01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: know that what I've written I expected to be funny,

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: you know, I expected that right there that I've written

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Speaker 1: certain lives that when you get to that point, some

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Speaker 1: hubors should come out of there. But a talented actress

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Speaker 1: are an actor because sometimes find humor. I didn't see

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Speaker 1: a humor. Are humor that wow, that's funny? Are you

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01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: just are natural on your feet or you just especially

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01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: those table reads because those table reads are like you know,

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01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: because you walk away saying make an adjustment to the script.

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01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: So a table read can be a nightmare for a writer,

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01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: could be a blessing for a writer based upon how

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01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: it's done and just playing everybody's table. What happens is

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01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: you write the script and then all the actors and

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01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,839
Speaker 1: actresses sit around the table along with this that could producer,

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01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: and they read every line in the script to the

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Speaker 1: end of the script. Unless you go through that, you know,

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01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,560
Speaker 1: you make notes where that didn't work, or that or

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01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: that storyline direction is not making any sense. Or sometimes

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01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: you might you might increase an actor and actress's role

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01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: based on how that reaction was in the script. You go,

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01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: why I didn't see that, we should build that up.

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Speaker 1: More So, when you're doing these table reads, and like

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01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: you said, you're doing somebody else's words. You're not as

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Speaker 1: a stand up, You're just doing the words that you created,

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01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 1: and you putting your bins on that. What what you

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01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: take when you first get the script or sitcom script

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01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: in this case, nixious, are you looking for your scripts? Um?

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01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: I think that that. Um, you bring up a great point.

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01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: It is somebody else's words. So the first thing I'm

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01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: gonna try to do is read the whole thing, and

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Speaker 1: I have to say, if you're starting out and acting,

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01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: no matter what it is, if it's you know, plays

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01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: or you're doing on camera, you want to do TV film,

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01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: try to get your hands on the whole piece of

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01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: the script, the whole body of work. You don't ever

1304
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: want to just read your part. So that's the first

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01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: thing I do is make sure I read the whole thing,

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01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 1: so understand what everybody is going through in the episode.

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01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: And then I'll go back and circle around to to

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01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: my to my scenes and then those scenes really um,

1309
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: like you said, yes, kind of bending it towards your personality,

1310
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: making the words my own. Um, you know, the writers,

1311
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: our writers are amazing. I'm mixed dish. They come from

1312
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: so many different great shows. But um, there's a time

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01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: sometimes I will improvise and maybe throw something in myself,

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01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: but I don't do that during the table read. During

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01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: the table a read, like you said, it's the time

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01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: for the network, is there, the producers, all the different

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01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: departments that we're listening, So you want to do it

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: word for word and then um, yeah, once I've done that,

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01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: I think, you know, try to think about each scene

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01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: they tell you the next day, here's the scene we're

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01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: gonna be working on and then you start working on

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01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: that scene and thinking about the things that you want,

1323
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: what my character wants to achieve. But really also just

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01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: even though I have the words, they're acting as if

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01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for the first time, and I think

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01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: for improvisers and stand ups that can come. Hopefully it

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01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: comes naturally to you because you learn how to do

1328
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: stand up. The key to stand up is working a

1329
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: joke over and over again, sometimes for years on the road,

1330
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: but always making it seem fresh to the audience. And

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01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: so that's what I try to do personally when I

1332
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: approached the script, is even though I've read this, you know,

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Speaker 1: ten twenty times, even though we've done the scene ten

1334
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: twenty times, I want to make sure it always sounds fresh,

1335
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: because when the audience is that, they don't know that

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01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: I've been doing it over and over and over again.

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01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: You know. It's really funny. I remember when I first

1338
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: uh went on stage as a stand up. I remember

1339
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: the first time I did the stand up, I got

1340
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: a standard ovation, you know, and it was like one

1341
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: third in the morning. I was still working at IBM

1342
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: four time, and so I ran off stage. And so

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01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: the next time I went on stage, I had a

1344
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: totally different set, and the next time I went on stage,

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01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: I had a totally different set that I think I

1346
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: wasn't getting. I didn't get the response that I gotten

1347
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: the first time. And then this comic walks up to

1348
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: me and said, hey, man, why do you keep changing

1349
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: material every week? I said, don't you supposed to do that?

1350
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 1: He said no, he said, dude, dude, whatever you did

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01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: the first time, you're supposed to still be doing that

1352
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: and then adding to the funny parts of that set.

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01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: That's how you get the five minutes, ten minutes, fifteen minutes,

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01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: so he said. I said, but he said, dude, it's

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01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: a different audience every time you go on stage. Food.

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01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So what she's saying is basically, you have

1357
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 1: to do that. You have to be able to get

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01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 1: that to get to that forty five minutes. Unless you

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01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: do a comedy special, didn't you have to do the

1360
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: material or no old new array of jokes. But your

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01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: goal is to be funny five minutes, ten minutes, fifteen minutes,

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01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: and you may be doing the same joke maybe two

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01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: or three years to get it right. That might be

1364
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: your killer ending or your killer opening, or you know,

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01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you've been on, you've been out

1366
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: in the comedy close because at the end of the

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01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: shows a lot of times they'll be paying those tabs,

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01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: and people be more concerned about paying the tabs than

1369
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: listen to your jokes on stage. So you really have

1370
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 1: to have your killer moments to be able to hold

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01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: their attention in the end. So, as a stand up,

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Speaker 1: what has been the most frustrating part of being a

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01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: stand up and then the blessing of being a stand up? Um, well,

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01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: I will say that was that what you talked about

1375
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 1: is a big lesson I had to learn as an improviser.

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01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 1: You know, when I would work at the Second City,

1377
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,799
Speaker 1: people were paid to come see us, get a suggestion

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01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 1: from them, and do a completely made up scene and

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01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: make it look as if it had been rehearsed. And

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01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: you can do something new every single night, every single set.

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01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: And then when I position to stand up, I had

1382
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: to learn, like you said, how to keep working the

1383
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: same joke over and over again and adding to it.

1384
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: And that's a lifelong lesson. I will say though, one

1385
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 1: time at the Second City, I can remember when the

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01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: check dropped, like you said, when the tabs come called

1387
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: the check drop. The checks were being dropped, and this

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01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: group of ladies, you know, they were all having a

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01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: great time, and they just I guess they wanted to

1390
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: split this bill and it was too complicated trying to

1391
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: figure out who had what and then how much tip

1392
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: because they were on a trip and they didn't know

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01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: they were in a big city. When you come to

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01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 1: a big city, they got to be so loud. I

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01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 1: stopped the show, bent over, went to the table, grabbed

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01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 1: the check and split up the bill for them and said,

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: why don't you have fift if each of you putting

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01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 1: thirt or two dollars, that's a nice tip, back to

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01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: what I was saying. The audience laughed, But I was

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01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: so for straight, right, right right. But you had to

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01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: do that because, like I said, she's absolutely correct. The

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01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: one thing that would destroy stand ups, and you would

1403
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: know this, Miss Anthony, is drunks. And somehow drunk women

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01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: were the worst because somehow, when a woman got drunk

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01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: in public, that means that everything was off. You know,

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01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: they didn't care about nothing. They would be the worst people.

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01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 1: A drunk woman at a comedy club was the worst

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: because you can't tell them nothing once they do once

1409
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: they've acknowledge that they're drunk in public, you can't shut

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01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: them down, you can't get them out, keep your hands.

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01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're white or black. I'm talking

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01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: about no math. A drunk woman period at a comedy

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01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: club is a natural disaster. To try to gain control

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01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 1: of them. Either gonna kick them out or you're just

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01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: gonna kick them out, just one option that well, I

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01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: don't say drunk people period. I've been on both sides.

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01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: People who talk, yes, people who talk as a struggle,

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01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: but that that that also as the performer, that's an

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01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 1: indication to you go back and work on this material,

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01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: tighten up that joke, you know, don't you know? Sometimes

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01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: you can be a girl. I will say I only

1422
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: did that one time where I like broke out and

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01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: just was like, let me just talk to y'all for

1424
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: a second. Um. But I will say like that that

1425
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: means you need to tighten something up. It's not funny.

1426
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 1: You need to move more quickly, and then later go

1427
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: back home and work on that, you know, put that down.

1428
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: And also if somebody comes to you afterwards and I

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01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you know, can I can I make

1430
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: a suggestion? Can I give you something. You know, be

1431
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: open to that too, because other comics are watching you

1432
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: and it's so helpful. Um, you can't, you know, you

1433
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: can't kind of be outside of yourself because in the

1434
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: moment you feel like, oh, the crowd was ganging up

1435
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: on me. But other comics that they really respect you

1436
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: and they like your work. They'll they'll come up to

1437
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: you afterwards, and I say, receiving in the spirit is given. Well,

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01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: you know, the interesting thing about your career is, like

1439
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: I said, you could act, I can't act, you know.

1440
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: I I've had acting opportunities and perform in the acting capacity.

1441
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: But your ability to be a uh, improvisational comic, you know,

1442
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: I means that you know, you throw harror scene and

1443
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: she just pulls it out. You know. I always tell

1444
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: people when you're improv and especially you know, acting the artist,

1445
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: I always say, if you get you have to get

1446
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: the three lines. Get the three lines of conversation with

1447
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: somebody in the improv, you know, so you can deliver

1448
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,799
Speaker 1: funny what we're rethm. What techniques that you use Christina

1449
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 1: when you were doing your improv, um, I would say,

1450
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: and I still use them now because I see the

1451
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: writers on mixed to use it. I still use it

1452
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: in my stand up when I'm writing stuff. But um,

1453
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: the rule of three is invaluable, you know, so learning

1454
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: if you can learn that, um, it's pretty easy. So

1455
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: when you're setting up a joke, you know you want

1456
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: to if you're listing items, you know, the first thing

1457
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 1: fits in the category, the second ding fits in the category,

1458
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: and then where you make the sharp turn and you

1459
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: make the third thing? What what the punches of the joke? Um?

1460
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: And then and in prova, we have a rule of

1461
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 1: always learning to say yes. And so if somebody comes

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01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: to you and says, man, did you see that man

1463
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: welcome down the street with the blue hat, you don't

1464
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: stop the joke to say no, I didn't see that.

1465
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 1: You say yeah, and he was walking to alligator. You know.

1466
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: You you want to keep adding to the bit when

1467
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: you're in and that's when you're telling jokes with somebody

1468
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: else an ensemble, and it also works on mixed this.

1469
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: We try to do that too. You know. Our our

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01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: family is hilarious. You know, uh, Kenya Barris and Tracy

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01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: Ellis Rosels created this world and we're just trying to

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01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: keep it going. It's a prequel and you know, take

1473
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: a Sumter, Mark, Paul Gossler, uh, Gary Cole. They're all

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01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 1: like really well known actors and comedians. And so even

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01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: if though the work is scripted, I'm still saying yes

1476
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: to the bits, to the jokes that you have, and

1477
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep them going. You know. Now, now

1478
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: when I look at your bio, I see stand up

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01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 1: but also see serious roles. You know, I'm assuming that

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01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: Why Women Killed that wasn't a comedy moment. Uh e

1481
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: er the dilemma, So how will you able because but

1482
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,560
Speaker 1: then I see multi talented actress. You do put that

1483
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 1: at the very top front. But Joe says, of comedic

1484
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: side on it, how did you translate a serious role

1485
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: in a comedic role? Because I wanted my listeners to

1486
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 1: hear that, in my viewers to hear that about a

1487
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,560
Speaker 1: person who's as talented as you, because you're willing to

1488
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 1: not limit yourself. And that's what you say. If an

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01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: opportunity that comes to you, Christina, You're going to present

1490
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: yourself for that opportunity. Correct for sure? For sure? Yeah,

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01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: I think you know Why Woman Kills a good example

1492
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: of um, that's a show about women who murder their

1493
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 1: husbands is very funny. You haven't check it out for

1494
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: those sister and one of the women that um. But

1495
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 1: I think even in that role, I still was being

1496
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 1: a comedian. But in a serious moment, like we think back.

1497
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: You can think back of like in black families, like

1498
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: when somebody passes away, even though it is a somber

1499
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: occasion and there it is a sad event and it's

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01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: a transition, there's still somebody that you know, Uncle Pete

1501
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,839
Speaker 1: always ask somebody, can't you get a ride to the refest?

1502
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: Why don't you have a car? You know? Or you know,

1503
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: unless it's always gonna bring a boyfriend to a funeral?

1504
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? And so you realize you

1505
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: find you know the funny moments even in the tragedy

1506
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: and your family. So I think, so why wo mckill

1507
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 1: is a good example of that. It's about a serious

1508
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: topic of domestic abuse and murder. But the sister is

1509
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: like I think I put a sister this, like girl,

1510
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 1: I always knew that wasn't the man for you. You know,

1511
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: it's like why are you guys have been at this

1512
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 1: point we're trying to put a murder together, but there's

1513
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 1: always like somebody like that. So I think finding those

1514
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: light moments, you know, or people. I can remember when

1515
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: my grandmother passed, you know, people were talking about you

1516
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You not even trying, You're just

1517
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: talking and I'm just laughing and you just really just

1518
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: just really just having the conversation with me. But it's

1519
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: such a relatable conversation. That's your blessing, you know. So Yeah,

1520
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: now you say you started in East St. Louis, how

1521
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: did you make it up to Chicago. I grew up

1522
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: in East St. Louis. And if you know, the famous

1523
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 1: people from St. Louis are Miles Davis, he joined a Curtsey,

1524
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: the Olympian and and Me and me centric centric entertainment

1525
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: you wanted from East St. Louis, such as the entertainments

1526
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: from St. Louis, I think, which is the fancy city

1527
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: on the other side of the about Lovere Crawford, Lovere

1528
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: Crawford from St. Louis. He's what I'm saying, OK. St.

1529
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: Louis is on the other side in Illinois. Yeah, and

1530
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's the cut, it's it's tough over that,

1531
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: it's tough over that, I know. Yeah, yeah. So but

1532
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: I went to college and you and I in Champagne,

1533
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: which is a little bit outside of Chica. I go

1534
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: ninety minutes. And so afterwards, all my friends, I think

1535
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: my boyfriend at the time, they went back after graduation,

1536
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: they went to Chicago. So I just moved there too.

1537
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: So you followed your man, you followed your man to Chicago,

1538
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: or you just my man at the time said there

1539
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: you go. And if you're gonna I'm gonna say, don't

1540
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: follow man places. But if you're gonna follow a man,

1541
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: do it after college, but be on your own, right. Oh,

1542
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 1: and so that's I started my art career. So your

1543
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: your college degree was what my college degree is actually

1544
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: in psychology. Okay, my college degree it's mathematics, so neither

1545
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,560
Speaker 1: you know nothing. But my mind was sociology, but my

1546
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,959
Speaker 1: degree was mathematics. And so I went to work for IBM.

1547
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: So when you went from Champagne, got your degree, packed

1548
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: your bag, followed home board to Chicago. You got a job.

1549
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: What was your first job? My first job. So my

1550
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: degree was in social side I think a social psychology,

1551
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: child psychology, I can't remember now, but it was a

1552
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: social work basically a social work type bachelor's. So I

1553
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: went to work. I went I think I went to

1554
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 1: work for the university doing outreach like art programs, so

1555
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: I was still art adjacent. And the reason I didn't

1556
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: go to college for acting, which maybe some of your

1557
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: listeners are like at that age and they're thinking about

1558
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: doing that, um, was because my parents they went to

1559
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: segregated schools. They came from Tennessee, and they were like,

1560
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: you are you know, I was second generation to go

1561
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 1: to college, but first generation out of segregation. And they

1562
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: were like, you're not gonna go to school to be

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01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: an actor. You're gonna get a real job. There's just

1564
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: too much on the line. But my father said, if

1565
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: you're really good, it's gonna find you. And so I

1566
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: went to school for something else. But then after that,

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01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of became a journeyman, right. I

1568
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: had to piece my art education together. So I started

1569
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: taking acting classes at night, and then I got into

1570
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: a play with other actors that have been to acting school.

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01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: So I would watch them and see what they would do.

1572
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: How would they learn their scripts? How would they break

1573
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: stuff down? You know, even now too, when I go

1574
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: to comedy, you know, not so much right now, during COVID.

1575
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: But when I would go to comedy shows, you know,

1576
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm watching other people to see what you do, and

1577
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: so much of um this business you can't just you don't.

1578
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: You're not just what you want to be. But you

1579
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: need to study to to become that. But you can

1580
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: study in a variety of ways. That's not college. Well

1581
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: many stand ups. No, you don't go to absolutely, I

1582
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, you learn on the road. But you know

1583
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: I look at you and you know, you know I

1584
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: went through and did my little extra work on what

1585
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: they sent over, and you know, you have so many

1586
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 1: different looks. That's on social media. You know what I

1587
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: think is a blessing. You know, because you you can't

1588
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: be pigeonholed. You know you can character you know, fantastic,

1589
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: fantastic character actress. And because you know you can look homely,

1590
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: you can look beautiful. Thank you. I se some homely photos.

1591
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 1: I would just like homely yere I put the homely

1592
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: in the beautiful photo together as just the same person.

1593
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 1: So I went, that's that's that's beyond acting, you know,

1594
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 1: to be able to pull that off. But the beauty

1595
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: of you know, you know, just mind everybody, I'm talking

1596
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: to Christina Anthony, I one of the stars of Mixus.

1597
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: Uh on the ABC series that follows Blackish. Uh. You

1598
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: know she plays at Denny's on the ABC series. Uh,

1599
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: she's out of Chicago. You know the Second City, one

1600
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: of the famous Second City. Uh what the John Belushi

1601
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 1: who all came out of the Second City. That's the

1602
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: name some of the famous Saturday Live alarms that came

1603
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: out of the Second City. Yeah, Belushi, Tina Fey, um,

1604
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: many people. But John Candy came out of there. I

1605
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: don't think he was on us another thing, but yeah,

1606
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people have and then a lot of

1607
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: people they didn't go on S and L like Stephen

1608
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 1: Colbert came out of there. It's really amazing that. Uh. So,

1609
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: before I let you go, because I feel that, you know,

1610
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: when I look at your career and I look at

1611
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 1: your resume, I have to believe in myself speaking honestly,

1612
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: the star is only gonna get brighter for you. I

1613
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: I you know, COVID with the COVID that set us

1614
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 1: all back. But I think in my life I feel

1615
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:14,839
Speaker 1: that it's only let you catch up with your competition.

1616
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 1: You're coming back in January, where the show that's on

1617
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: the air, and so it it focuses you, tells you

1618
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: what your gifts are. And I think your gifts is

1619
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 1: if I'm looking at you, I'm managing you. I say

1620
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: that it's unlimited. First of all, this is me just

1621
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: looking at the person I've seen. I've been blessed to

1622
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: be working with a lot of star talent. And you're attractive.

1623
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: You you you are just naturally funny. I mean, you

1624
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: just start talking, Christina, and you're funny, and that's very key,

1625
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, I I and so I just know that

1626
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: you can do drama. You you I haven't heard you sing,

1627
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: but you know you you bold enough tell me that

1628
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 1: you got the chops because you've said Broadway several times

1629
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: during our interview, so obviously somebody let you in the

1630
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: room and let you make some noise and it made

1631
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: sense and it sounded like singing, and every I said,

1632
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: she got the skie. And uh, but what's just the

1633
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 1: future hope for you? Besides me being so caught off guard,

1634
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: but how talented you you are, because you never know

1635
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 1: what you interview somebody. Because some people can be uh,

1636
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: you know, just really good at what they do. I

1637
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: think you can be good at anything that you do. Yes, well,

1638
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: first of all, thank you so much for that. Um. Yeah,

1639
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: I consider myself a comedians comedian, so I aspire to

1640
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: to still just be really good at what I'm doing,

1641
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 1: no matter what level it's at. So if I'm teaching

1642
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 1: children after school how to write jokes, which is something

1643
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 1: I love to do, or if I'm in a big film,

1644
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 1: that's great too. Um. But as far as what's next,

1645
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: I love my job is underneath on ABC's Mixed Dish. Um.

1646
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 1: But eventually, you know, all things come to an end.

1647
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 1: So I was I can't wait to see, like what

1648
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,759
Speaker 1: the next job is. I'm also very interested in getting

1649
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 1: into um film and doing I love I'm obsessed with

1650
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 1: action movies, Marvel movies. What's your favorite action movie? Because

1651
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 1: I love action movies like you know, I love it? What? What? What? What? What?

1652
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,799
Speaker 1: Action movies this year caught your eye on on Netflix? Along?

1653
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: Do you watch Netflix? Yes? I do? Come on, come

1654
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 1: on now, come on now, come on now. That was

1655
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: a sleeper hit right out that we talk show. Lease

1656
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: walked up to I'll be right back, I get your signal,

1657
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: and she walked out that door and wipe all those

1658
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 1: men that's my girl right there. That right there, that

1659
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: movie was so unexpected, right, I didn't know what to

1660
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: think of it. It was so amazing. Yes, I love

1661
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: to try my hand in action. Of course. You know,

1662
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: black panther holes such a special place in my heart.

1663
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 1: I love that, so yeah, I would love that. I'm

1664
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: also like, I still have my eyes. I'm doing a

1665
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 1: comedy special, my brand of comedy, um, and then I

1666
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: love to have my own sitcom. You know, you up

1667
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: on your chair on that one. I'm going through. Okay,

1668
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: you know all, I know you've probably got super management

1669
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: around your super ages around you. But you know, I

1670
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: always know the call Rashaw. You know the idea that

1671
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: you want to get it from some people. But of

1672
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: course you're working with Ken your barrass you know you

1673
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: can't get any better than that. So I'm sure you

1674
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 1: can walk through the next door and pitch your ideas

1675
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: to those people over there. But again, you got an idea,

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01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,760
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversations with your host, Rashwan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is Sharon Smith. I can sign you.

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Speaker 1: She's the CEO of Ray Mackenzie Group, an award winning diversity,

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Speaker 1: of Color Career Fair as a way of closing the

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Speaker 1: first to get it. Please. Welcome to Money Making Conversation,

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Speaker 1: Sharon Smith. I can sign you. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for Sean, thank you for that awesome introduction. I'm really

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Speaker 1: happy to be here with you today. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: you're a talker. You're a good talker. I have some

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Speaker 1: good questions. A little background on me, my degrees in mathematics,

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Speaker 1: my miners, and sociology. Uh, even though I have a

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Speaker 1: strong entertainment background. But in college two and a half

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Speaker 1: years I worked undergrad at IBM. I was in the

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Speaker 1: administrative executive and then I worked two and a half

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Speaker 1: years professionally at IBM. And when I got there, and

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Speaker 1: I eventually left in eight six to pursue a career

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Speaker 1: as a standard comedian, I thought I'd be the next

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Speaker 1: Aid in Murphy. And I guess what, I've been successful.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the next Aid to Murphy, but I'm the

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Speaker 1: first Rochelle McDonald. That's why I should have realized from

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Speaker 1: the very beginning that it's really when you start talking

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Speaker 1: about talent and recruiting that talent. It's about being yourself

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Speaker 1: and understanding your value, isn't that correct? Sharing? Absolutely, we

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Speaker 1: have to know our value, We have to understand, you know,

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Speaker 1: where we fit in, and we have to always be

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Speaker 1: willing to bring our authentic self to whatever it is

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Speaker 1: that we're doing and we're trying to pursue because you

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Speaker 1: cannot be your best. You cannot be productive at home,

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Speaker 1: you cannot be productive at work unless you keep it

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Speaker 1: real and you always keep aware because you're in a

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Speaker 1: world where really, um, you're talking to white people. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to white people every day, giving them a

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Speaker 1: safe space to have this real conversation about making sure

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Speaker 1: that they uh do a better job at making rooms

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Speaker 1: so that we can have a seat at the table. See,

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Speaker 1: we need to be at all levels of the organization,

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Speaker 1: from boardroom to the c suite to middle management, all

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Speaker 1: the way through to make sure that we're impacting change,

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Speaker 1: not just because of us. Right, this is just good business.

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Speaker 1: When you think about the population shift, the demographics shift,

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Speaker 1: you know, people will tell us what bo we will

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Speaker 1: be a majority minority nation, that will be more black

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Speaker 1: and brown people in this nation and then when you

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Speaker 1: add on top of that, rashaant the buying power consumerism,

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Speaker 1: corporations must be reflective of the customers they served. And

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Speaker 1: were you talking about one point five one point seven

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Speaker 1: trillion dollars in buying power just with the African Americans

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Speaker 1: consumer another one point five or so with the Latino community.

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Speaker 1: You cannot afford not to make sure that your workforce

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Speaker 1: is reflective of the consumers you serve. Because we're getting

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Speaker 1: smarter and we're becoming more using our activist gene, and

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Speaker 1: we're asking more questions as we think about where we

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Speaker 1: want to land for our next big career. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting because, let's say, my miners and sociology,

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Speaker 1: so I'm always looking from a black perspective, and I

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01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 1: have to look at life. So when you talk about

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Speaker 1: that minority number being the majority, there's a there's a

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Speaker 1: that's a majority of this current majority fear that. And

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Speaker 1: so when you come in and talking about trying to

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Speaker 1: be inclusive and trying to be a more diverse a

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Speaker 1: color pattern that fits the general population, there's also an

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Speaker 1: older generation that sees that that shrinking number, and we've

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Speaker 1: seen it during this last presidential administration and just gonna

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Speaker 1: carry on, uh, the next four years or six years.

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Speaker 1: And we've seen how I read an article as a

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Speaker 1: church out there as white only people church on the

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Speaker 1: only white people to come to their church. So when

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Speaker 1: you see this, this upheaval of negative spirit that don't

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Speaker 1: want to include, that don't want to share the opportunities

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Speaker 1: at the table, how do you deal with that? How

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Speaker 1: do you see that as a visionary? Yeah, I think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I really feel bad, I really feel awful,

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Speaker 1: Uh that people are such a disadvantage, especially some white

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Speaker 1: people who haven't had the opportunity to learn how fulfilling

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Speaker 1: their life would be by not having people in their

1831
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Speaker 1: lives that don't look like them. It is so sad,

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Speaker 1: you know. And it's something that I teach young people

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Speaker 1: as well, and I when I speak in schools, I said,

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Speaker 1: you really have to understand how fulfilling and how important

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Speaker 1: it is to make sure that you switch things up,

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Speaker 1: you know, really make sure that you are being intentional

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Speaker 1: about building strong relationships with people who don't look like you.

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Speaker 1: It changes things. And so when I see what happened

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Speaker 1: in the election, when I see what happens in the

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Speaker 1: White House, it's just very sad because they're just cheating

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Speaker 1: themselves out of a fulfilling opportunity, UH, to just make

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01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 1: their lives better because it's so important. You know, Brian

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01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 1: Stevenson teaches us about proximity. I don't know if you've

1844
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 1: read the book Just Mercy, but teach us about proximity,

1845
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 1: and it's so important to do that. This is how

1846
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 1: we create empathy when you are getting closer to people

1847
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: who don't look like us, and there and there, and

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01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: it's a shame to have fear. Who wants to live

1849
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 1: like that? In fear of another human being? That's that's

1850
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 1: just nuts. So what we have to do as black

1851
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:43,759
Speaker 1: people and people of color is just to keep moving forward,

1852
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 1: keep being who we are, keep being authentic, and keep teaching,

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01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 1: educating and using our voice to make sure that we

1854
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 1: are creating change and embrace those allies and as my

1855
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 1: mom called him, embrace those good white folk. Right. Well,

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01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 1: that's what we saw during the civil unrest during the summer,

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01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 1: because white people came out and supported racial change. Police

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01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 1: brutality we had to stop, you know, I would tell people,

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01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: you know, some of the some of the heavy riding

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Speaker 1: was done in Portland, Seattle, and I can assure you

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Speaker 1: I've been to both cities. Very few black people up there. Okay,

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01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 1: there was a mad white people up there who finally

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01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 1: were open, and then when they saw try to create conversation,

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01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 1: they would trying. They were they were, they were trying

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01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 1: to shut them down. And that's when the face of

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Speaker 1: reality kind of came back a wild you mean, like

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Speaker 1: we changed just talk about this, and this is what

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Speaker 1: black people have to deal with. I'm white and you

1869
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Speaker 1: treat me like this, Treat me like I am a terrorist,

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Speaker 1: treat me like I am uh was supposed to have

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01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: the first right amendment of freedom of speech and you're

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01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 1: telling you denying me that. And so when I look

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Speaker 1: at what you're doing, and I do want to point

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Speaker 1: something that. First, from an advertising standpoint, when I look

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Speaker 1: at commercials, I see diversity, incredible amounts of diversity. I

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01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 1: see black and white couple was layd in bed. I

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Speaker 1: see him driving cars with Nix Races kids in the

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Speaker 1: back seat. I see them jumping out to each other

1879
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Speaker 1: when they come into the airport. So from an advertising standpoint,

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Speaker 1: I think diversity is working. They they have understood that

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Speaker 1: we need to show how America looks and should interact.

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Speaker 1: Now we're talking about employment, we're talking about leadership, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about upper management. We're talking about that's a lot

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Speaker 1: different than a sixty second or thirty second or fifteen

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Speaker 1: second b roll on YouTube. A lot of harder journey.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it is a harder journey. But I don't

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Speaker 1: understand why, because when you understand good business, that same

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Speaker 1: CEO who may ensure that that who hired that ad agency,

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01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 1: who created that the average the advertisement that you speak about,

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Speaker 1: is that same CEO who needs to make sure that

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Speaker 1: his organization reflects the consumers that they're serving. So that CEO,

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Speaker 1: that c h R O needs to just decide that

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Speaker 1: we're going to reflect that. You've seen the articles, the

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Speaker 1: recent articles, um you know about Coca Cola, right and

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Speaker 1: there you know, and they started years ago. They used

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Speaker 1: to be leading in this space when we're talking about

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Speaker 1: CEOs at the highest levels of the organization, and they

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Speaker 1: just took a temperature check. If they they went backwards,

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01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: they're going back and even as they have gone backwards,

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Speaker 1: and this was as a result of a multimillion dollar

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Speaker 1: lawsuit that happened, right, and so they're going backwards. But

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01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 1: even as they are, they're still ahead of the game.

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01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 1: They still the game losing ground. Well, when CEOs just

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01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 1: have to decide what type of organization do I want

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Speaker 1: to be? What do I want to represent? What do

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Speaker 1: I want my legacy to be? When I think about

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01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 1: how all of this got started in sixteen nineteen, when

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Speaker 1: the first slaves you know, rode up on the shores

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Speaker 1: of Virginia, you know, uh uh in chains. But do

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Speaker 1: I want my I can see to be And I

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Speaker 1: believe that CEO's board members just have to decide that

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Speaker 1: this has got to stop. And just like when this

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Speaker 1: started in Minneapolis, after George Floyd was murdered eight minutes

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Speaker 1: and forty six seconds, that awakened all of us, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and the world saw all races. As you mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't just because there's not that many black folk

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota either. So everybody came together and said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, this is enough is enough, Enough is enough.

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Speaker 1: It is not okay that Sherion Smith Akin Sagna has

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Speaker 1: to have a talk with her twenty four year old

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Speaker 1: you know about you know, every single time she leaves

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Speaker 1: my presence. She lives in Boston now, but ever since

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Speaker 1: she was a baby. You know, we have to have

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Speaker 1: that talk. You really are black. Here's here's you have

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Speaker 1: to be aware of that. You know, when I talked

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Speaker 1: to my white friends about that, they're just the paul

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Speaker 1: that I have to do that not only with her,

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Speaker 1: but my nieces, my nephews, you know, just anybody. Just

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Speaker 1: remember we have to be careful. And so it awakened

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Speaker 1: all of us and we have to keep the pedal

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Speaker 1: to the metal. You know. I wrote about it in

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Speaker 1: my article in b ET recently, and I talked about

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Speaker 1: how it's very nice that we have Rashida Jones, who

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Speaker 1: now is the head of MSNBC News, you know, the

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Speaker 1: first black female head of cable news, a cable news network.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've got Kamala Harris, right, first of a

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Speaker 1: black vice president. We've got all female communications staff in

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Speaker 1: the Biden Harris cabinet, with three of those members being black,

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Speaker 1: all with natural hair by the way. So we're seeing

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Speaker 1: so much progress right and in a short period of time.

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Speaker 1: But I also wrote about I see some flashing yellow lights,

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Speaker 1: ship warning warning. We have been here before, So what

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01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 1: do we need to do to make sure that we

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Speaker 1: don't backslide, as they say in church. We need to

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Speaker 1: make sure or that we are giving those ceo s hey,

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Speaker 1: this is awesome that you did this. Who's Next? Because

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Speaker 1: we own social media? Use it right, we own it.

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Speaker 1: So make sure you're letting the CEOs and we're watching,

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Speaker 1: we see you. Thank you so much for that. Who's Next.

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Speaker 1: And we also need to make sure that we are

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Speaker 1: congratulating those leaders and saying we're looking forward to the

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Speaker 1: change that you're gonna make. You know who you're bringing

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Speaker 1: up behind you, you know. So there's lots of things

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Speaker 1: that are happening, but I see warning science. You know

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Speaker 1: you remember this book, what was it, Cracking the Corporate Code?

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Speaker 1: You remember absolutely absolutely did this a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, you know because I've worked at IBM,

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Speaker 1: so I know that, uh, you know, I would tell

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Speaker 1: people about, you know, the story. I always say that

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Speaker 1: when I was an IBM, I said, decisions are made.

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Speaker 1: You have to do you have to get in the

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Speaker 1: eyeline of people when they make decisions. And that's what

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Speaker 1: black people really need to understand before we throw the

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Speaker 1: word racism out there, not be included. And I would

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Speaker 1: tell people decisions are made in front of you, left

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Speaker 1: and right. If you send to been hiding that decision maker,

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01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 1: you won't get choose. You won't get chosen. So that

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Speaker 1: means that you have to you have to work your

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01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 1: way through proper training, proper relationships, or clear understanding that

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Speaker 1: you want to be successful. Because I mean, when I

1971
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Speaker 1: came on board IBM full time, uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: sat down with my supervisors. He asked me what I

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Speaker 1: wanted to do at IBM, and I told him I

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01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,799
Speaker 1: get back with him meany times. With twitter white guys, obviously,

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Speaker 1: they told him exactly what they wanted to do and

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Speaker 1: they would move in front of me. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: four months later I came in there, you know, crying wolf, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's going on here? Why is Bill and Ted flying

1979
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 1: past me? And they said he white guy said nights

1980
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 1: every shine. You didn't ever get back to me about

1981
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Speaker 1: your goals that IBM. So I'm not I'm not saying

1982
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 1: that's holding all black people back, but no, there are

1983
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Speaker 1: certain things that you have to be positioned and ready

1984
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 1: to tell people you want to be great, if you

1985
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: if your goal is to be this, to run this company,

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Speaker 1: to be a vice president, to be a manager. When

1987
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 1: they asked you, you better tell them, and you better

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Speaker 1: tell them how you're gonna do that, because that shows

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01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 1: leadership and so. And I also know that raises promotions

1990
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 1: are tied to not because of hard work, but what

1991
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: people think of you. Absolutely, absolutely you must know your value.

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01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 1: And you know how close mouth won't get faith, mouth

1993
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 1: won't get promoted. Jared jaredy. I mean we talk a

1994
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: long time because see you you're starting to rock on me.

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Speaker 1: Not girl. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, that elbow

1996
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 1: your weight in right, you know, to make sure that

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Speaker 1: you're saying yes to those networking opportunities. Absolutely, yes to

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Speaker 1: those virtual coffees, Yes to those quick fifteen minutes you know,

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01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:37,759
Speaker 1: catch ups. That's how we learn those things. We must

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Speaker 1: know more people. I can't tell you how many calls

2001
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 1: I get after someone has you know, been downsized because

2002
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 1: of the pandemic or for whatever reason. And this says Sharon,

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01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 1: I really need to get to my next episode, And

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01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 1: I said, well, who you know? You know, who have

2005
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 1: you kept in relationship with where That's where we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start first. Well, you know, I've been so busy, I

2007
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 1: haven't done the networking that I need to and you know,

2008
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 1: I have my head down. No everybody three to five

2009
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:09,839
Speaker 1: networking calls a week, fifteen minutes, three to five, no agenda,

2010
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 1: get to know people you know and let and you

2011
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 1: could be genuinely interested in what's going on with them,

2012
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 1: all right, and be able to share what's going on

2013
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: with you and your future goals and opportunities, especially now

2014
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 1: because we're all in this box, in this square called zoom,

2015
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 1: and we have time throw a fifteen minute meeting on that.

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01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,680
Speaker 1: I've been meaning to catch up with that h r

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Speaker 1: oh at you know said company. I've been meaning to

2018
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 1: catch up with a friend of mine who I had

2019
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 1: just you know, lost touch, you know, from years ago.

2020
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 1: Catch up, y'all. We need to have access, and that

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01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 1: is why I created the People of Color Careers Social

2022
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: Hiring Network for Professionals of color, because we need to

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01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 1: do a better job at networking with each other, and

2024
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 1: also we need to do a better job at networking

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01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 1: and getting access to those hiring managers and decision makers

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01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 1: rashan that can help us move the needle forward faster

2027
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 1: on our careers. So I want to make sure everybody

2028
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: they don't do anything else. They need to create their

2029
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Speaker 1: profile at people of Color Careers dot Com because that's

2030
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 1: where we're gonna get it done. I love that we're

2031
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 1: talking about her new book, Colorful Competitive Strategies to Attract

2032
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:21,719
Speaker 1: and Retain top Talent of Color. It releases in February,

2033
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 1: but you can pre order this book right now. I'm

2034
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 1: talking to Sharon Smith. I can sign you and we're

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01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 1: making it. There's when I've reading the book, as a

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Speaker 1: couple of terms that I always here pop out, what

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Speaker 1: exactly or c suite executives? What is that? What are those?

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Speaker 1: The c suite executives are those executives that work directly

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01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:45,680
Speaker 1: for the CEO, report directly to the CEO, so that

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01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 1: you can have a seat at the table where the

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01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 1: decision makers the citistems are being made. Because because I thought,

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01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 1: because I'm going through your book, it was it was

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01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, it's like a recipe book,

2044
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 1: and it was so term. I went, you know, you

2045
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 1: gotta know this term because it pops up a lot. Yeah,

2046
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 1: I know what it is, but people they just walk

2047
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 1: quite past what exactlys c suite executives. Okay, that person

2048
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 1: you need to get cop to the top of the

2049
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:09,720
Speaker 1: food chain. That's what you need to be working your

2050
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:13,840
Speaker 1: way up to the top. Now, another person in reading

2051
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 1: they said that that you are a proof of concept?

2052
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 1: What exactly that that when they made that reference, I

2053
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 1: really I said, I'm gonna let her explain what he

2054
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 1: meant when he said you are a proof of concept.

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Speaker 1: We talked about my good friend Richard Davis, who is

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01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 1: the former CEO of the nation's fifth largest bank, US Bank,

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Speaker 1: and he's currently the CEO of Make a Wish America.

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01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 1: And I believe what Richard meant was is that I

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01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 1: do what I say I'm want to do, and that

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01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 1: I you know, so when you have a conversation with me,

2061
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 1: it's going to be authentic, It's going to be safe,

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01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,600
Speaker 1: there won't be any recrimination. We're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: have an honest dialogue because I recognize that as a CEO,

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Speaker 1: particularly as a white male, because that was the point

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01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 1: of view he was speaking for. He called himself. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm an old white dude, and I support here of

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01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 1: what he was saying is is that when I tell

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Speaker 1: you that I can help you do better and be

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01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 1: better and recruit and retain top talent of color, if

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01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 1: you listen, then I will be able to do that

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01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 1: because what was important. See Richard than I, we used

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01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: to have these knockdown dragons. They were in safe spaces

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01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 1: and we had them and we moved on. Well, we

2074
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 1: learned from one another because I can ask him anything, right,

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01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 1: And so that's what we're saying that if you want

2076
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 1: to save space to be able to have these conversations

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01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: to help move your organization forward, then Sharon can do that. Well.

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Speaker 1: I took it as you are the truth. You know,

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Speaker 1: just people like truth man. Just just just let her

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Speaker 1: talk for five minute. Understand that's the truth talking right there.

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01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 1: And then because because that's what I took from a

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Speaker 1: proof of concept, because okay, you know each how you go,

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01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 1: Why does this work? Sharon, please come forward and tell

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01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 1: everybody the truth that just walked into the room. Because

2085
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 1: because you're constantly in mental and you have to maintaining

2086
01:49:57,680 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 1: certain tones that you don't become the angry black woman

2087
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 1: that can be too too aggressive because you're trying to

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01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 1: bend thought process. You're trying to create acceptability, and you

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01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 1: can't be the person. You know what you don't want

2090
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 1: sharing it's somebody doing it because out of fear. That

2091
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 1: doesn't work let's talk about that whole process. Because you

2092
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:20,679
Speaker 1: can't protest your way to diverse opportunities, they can assign

2093
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 1: wanted to to shut you down. We're talking about a

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Speaker 1: plan in place that you are trying to implement. Not

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01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 1: saying trying, but you are implementing that allows people to

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01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 1: understand this is the right thing to do. This can

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01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 1: make your company more profitable. This can make your your

2098
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: work staff much more clear. Understanding what goes on in

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01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 1: all the communities. They can understand why, Okay, this person

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01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:41,599
Speaker 1: feels a certain way when they walk out there are

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01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: police stops them, or or their children go to school

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01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,560
Speaker 1: where they have different ways of communicating. This is what

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01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 1: this is about. An acceptance and the mental acceptance that

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01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 1: this should be done this way. There are no other

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01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 1: way it shouldn't be done. Absolutely, that's exactly right. And

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01:50:56,400 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: those leaders who get that Rashaun are winning. They're going

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01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: to leave their competitors in the dust. I promise you,

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01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 1: when you truly understand the importance of building stronger, more

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01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:14,719
Speaker 1: authentic relationships inside and outside your organization with people of color,

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01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:18,839
Speaker 1: those that don't look like you, you will increase your profits.

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01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:20,720
Speaker 1: Their studies that we know take my word for it.

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Speaker 1: Their studies, you know, into all of them, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Mackenzie pick them. There's thousands of studies that tell

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01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 1: you you will increase your profits, you will increase innovation,

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01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 1: and you will absolutely leave your competition in the dust,

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01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 1: and personally you will be better for it. See, my

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01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 1: best friend is very rich and very white, very white,

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01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 1: and we have these conversations that put us in different places. See,

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Speaker 1: she enhanced my life because of her network and her

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01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 1: circle and where we were able to get some things

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01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 1: done around diversity, EQUI and inclusion where she can introduced

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01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: me into that world. And then she was able to

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Speaker 1: have a better understanding and be a better c. H. R.

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01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 1: Oh in her work because of what she was able

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01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 1: to do with me in my world and learn. I

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01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:14,559
Speaker 1: gotta tell you. I'll tell you a quick story. When

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01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:18,560
Speaker 1: we went out to sit to a party to a

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01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 1: professional couple. You know, they had just moved to the

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01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 1: Twin Cities area, and it was a beautiful, I mean beautiful,

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01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: beautiful home. And so it's a Saturday afternoon. I'm being casual.

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01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, look at y'all, y'all living like rich

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01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:36,680
Speaker 1: white people out here, and Jenny, and Jenny looked at me.

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01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 1: She said, no, I can't say that, right, that's exactly right,

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01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, I said, but eventually you know, right, right,

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01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:48,439
Speaker 1: But those are the things, right, those are the things

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01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:50,560
Speaker 1: that I want. I want to comment on that. You know,

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01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 1: when you're saying living like white people. See, that's which

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01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 1: is really, really, really key because you know, I because

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01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm a former sitcom writer, and I will tell you

2140
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 1: know what happens is, you know how some people create

2141
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 1: a hit show and they can't create another hit show

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01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 1: because when they used to they create the first show,

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01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 1: they were driving to work, they were needing the regular stories.

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01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 1: When they made the hit show, they started helicopter in

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01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 1: the world, they started getting their news from CNN. And

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01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 1: so so basically, people are rich white people, they have

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01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 1: to be educated because guess what they're missing steps, you know,

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01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 1: they're missing steps. Food is being brought to them. They

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01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 1: have made service and so they're looking at people from

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01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 1: a different perspective and the information they're getting it from

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01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,120
Speaker 1: people from from maybe from a non educated level. And

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01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:35,879
Speaker 1: so when we have to surround their folks with information,

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01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 1: if their eyes open, go, I didn't know. That's why

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01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm with George Florida. A lot of white people didn't

2155
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 1: know they really they were allowed. The white people black

2156
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 1: people just complaining and didn't didn't look caring. She out

2157
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 1: there just I'm a column, I'm a call of police

2158
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:49,600
Speaker 1: right now and tell them you're about to attack me.

2159
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 1: When that got caught on film, they were like, Wow,

2160
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 1: this really does happen. It really does happening, and it

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01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 1: just you know what, it wasn't a We were in

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01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 1: the middle of a pandemic when George Floyd happened, and

2163
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 1: as we still are, it wasn't a baseball game, a

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01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:08,919
Speaker 1: football game, get nothing to get in a way. Everybody

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01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 1: saw that. Everybody witnessed it, and it wasn't awakening. It

2166
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:14,880
Speaker 1: really wasn't awakening. And I encourage everyone in the sound

2167
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 1: of my voice to be intentional about changing your friend group,

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01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 1: because I want to know, you know, who do you

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01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,639
Speaker 1: call when you want to celebrate, Who do you call

2170
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 1: when you're sad? Who's on your Christmas party list? Tell

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01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 1: me about your golfing buddies, because it just changes your

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01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 1: life for the better. When you diversify, you learn, So

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01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 1: we have could be intellectually curious too about what's happening. Sharon,

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01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 1: love you because you have that. You know you could

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01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 1: be a minister. You know that that you've been told

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01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:46,200
Speaker 1: that before. Now, the couple of questions about ask you

2177
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 1: have to read the book. The first one, it's a

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01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:51,920
Speaker 1: strong question, but I just need you to answer. Why

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01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 1: should we trust you? You should trust me because I

2180
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 1: have been doing this for twenty plus years, really working

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01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 1: hard to impact my community, really hard to be making

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01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,320
Speaker 1: sure that we're making a change in closing those gaps,

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01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 1: you know. So you know, I'm an open book. I'm

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01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 1: pretty transparent, and I get results, and and Richard Davis

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01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 1: is one of those people that share that information with you,

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01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 1: as those other UH executives in the book that I

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01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 1: talked to. So I get results. I am proof positive.

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01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 1: You know that when you work with me and my team,

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01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:34,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna help you move the needle forward and it's

2190
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 1: going to be safe. So you should trust me because

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01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:40,080
Speaker 1: I've done the work. I've been in the trenches, and

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01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:44,760
Speaker 1: I have those corporations that are behind me that say, hey,

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01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, she and her team are really moving the

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01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 1: needle and getting it done. And because my mama said,

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01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 1: so you know, you know me, She said look, little girl,

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01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 1: I know you are in a fetal position. This was

2197
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 1: after George Floyd. You got to get up because it

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01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 1: is a sin not to use your gift. It is

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01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 1: a sin to keep it to yourself. Now you can

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01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 1: be part of the solution or walk around soaking of oxygen.

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01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm saying you shouldn't feel what you feel.

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01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna need you to do what it is

2203
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 1: that you do your god giving gifts and let this

2204
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 1: make even more change in the community because you have

2205
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:25,720
Speaker 1: accessed to people that most people just dream of, and

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01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 1: you need to use that access to move things forward

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01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:33,040
Speaker 1: and make real change. Now get on up. My other

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01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 1: question for a close out the end of view, what

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Speaker 1: are the real obstacles? We've talked about them for d E. I, Yes,

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Speaker 1: what are they? Well, the real obstacles um lie in

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01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 1: the inability for those in charge to just decide that's

2212
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 1: the obstacle. And sweet because because I say that, because

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01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 1: I want to go to chapter three. The key to

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01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 1: attracting qualified professionals of color, and that's what you say.

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01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 1: Make sure every message you send tells them you want them,

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01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 1: welcome them, and value them as unique individuals. Right, because

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01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 1: how what message are you sending? You know, when I

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01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 1: look at your LinkedIn profile, when I look at your

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01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 1: company profile, I don't see anybody looks like me. I

2220
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 1: don't see you with anybody that looks like me. So

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01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 1: you have to be intentional. It's almost like that boss

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01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 1: of yours who talked about talked to you when you

2223
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 1: were at IBM. What do you want to do? You

2224
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 1: know what you didn't tell him. Okay, you got around

2225
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 1: to it, but you didn't do it right away. Same

2226
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 1: thing is happening in corporate America. You say you want me,

2227
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 1: but tell me how much you want me. You know,

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01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:46,960
Speaker 1: it's like a dating relationship. You know, why don't I

2229
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 1: hear anything about it? Why don't you tell me you?

2230
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:52,160
Speaker 1: Why don't you show me? And so that is the

2231
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 1: most important thing to aid. Just decide and then make

2232
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 1: it clear. We really do want to increase racial inclusivity

2233
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 1: at all levels of the organization, and we're willing to

2234
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 1: do and learn whatever we need to do and learn

2235
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 1: to make that happen because we know it's good for

2236
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:10,400
Speaker 1: business and we know that we lose our competitive edge

2237
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 1: when we don't do that. Awesome, She's amazing. She has

2238
01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 1: a book out colorful competitive strategies to attract and retain

2239
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:21,680
Speaker 1: top talent of color. Sharon Smith at Consagna, You're wonderful, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: That's a cold state, young lady. Thank you so much,

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01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 1: and we're gonna just keep it moving. I know, by

2242
01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:28,800
Speaker 1: the way, the book, you can get the e book

2243
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 1: right now on Amazon as well. So I'm I'm gonna

2244
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 1: bring you back, you know, because I was. You know,

2245
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 1: we're closing out the year, but I want to bring

2246
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 1: you back in like in the late first quarter because

2247
01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, you know VA vaccines, it's gonna be starting

2248
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 1: to get distributed and I want to get your mindset

2249
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 1: there as well, because what you talk about is, uh,

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Speaker 1: it is really important from a standpoint, Like I told you,

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01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, from an advertising standpoint, there's a clear understanding

2252
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:57,440
Speaker 1: that by being diverse in the advertising world, your product

2253
01:58:57,480 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 1: can be sold. That's what they're doing. You said that

2254
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 1: in your book about brand loyalty. It hasn't been shown

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01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: that once once African Americans feel that you care about them,

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01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 1: you create brand loyalty. What the advertising world is accepted

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01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 1: that you know, they're rolling in there and so. But

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01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:16,200
Speaker 1: from the corporate standpoint and had those closed doors. When

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01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 1: you walk through those doors, they're still not admitting there's

2260
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,839
Speaker 1: a need for that change. They have to just decide

2261
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,840
Speaker 1: those that do and make it happen. Like I said,

2262
01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 1: we'll leave their competition in the dusk. Well you are

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01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:33,120
Speaker 1: you fantastic, glad? Like I said, I have six sisters.

2264
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:34,760
Speaker 1: I want to bring you on board and my seven

2265
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 1: sister because because you you're entertaining your I love your

2266
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 1: style and love your personality. I feel that you one

2267
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 1: of these people I can really really have a great

2268
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 1: conversation about life learn something from because of the fact

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01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:51,080
Speaker 1: that you're not a person that I felt was supplying

2270
01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 1: with information that I was being forced upon me. And

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01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:55,520
Speaker 1: I think that's what we were talking about earlier. When

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01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:57,480
Speaker 1: you talk to these white people, and I would say

2273
01:59:57,520 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 1: white people in the negative state, but there are the

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01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 1: people in power, and we were talking to it. It

2275
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:03,280
Speaker 1: is a stunt point. You have to be able to

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02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 1: have a conversation with them, because what happens is when

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02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 1: they throw your left, you have to have a right,

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02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:12,360
Speaker 1: but a soft right, a counter point, a counter punch answer.

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02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 1: Because of the fact that they don't see nothing wrong

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02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 1: they see they feel that successfully stock is high a

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02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:23,640
Speaker 1: classic example is h mackenzie who was formerly the the

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02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 1: Amazon head. Jeff's from a wife. She giving that money

2283
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 1: left and right to HBCUs. Absolutely, he hasn't given that anything,

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02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:37,880
Speaker 1: nothing one of our good non proplems and fifteen million

2285
02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:41,160
Speaker 1: dollars gifts from her. It's out the blue changed their

2286
02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:43,520
Speaker 1: entire lives. That's what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying.

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02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 1: That you can have two people they're getting their money

2288
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:50,280
Speaker 1: from the same location where one person has been exposed.

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02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:53,400
Speaker 1: She has opened the book. She is a clear understanding

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02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 1: there is a need over there. The same person over

2291
02:00:56,320 --> 02:01:00,120
Speaker 1: here getting that same money has not been told. Is

2292
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:02,520
Speaker 1: a need for this has not been told. There's a

2293
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 1: clear understanding that he can make a change and effort

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02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:08,320
Speaker 1: to be able to move forward and create and educate

2295
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:12,040
Speaker 1: African Americans. Will making for better employment, better doctors, better teachers,

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02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 1: better lawyers, Barrika Congressman, better vice presidents of the United States.

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02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:19,760
Speaker 1: That's what happens when you participate. That's what happens when

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02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 1: you diversify. Sharon, thank you for coming on the show.

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02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:23,360
Speaker 1: I gotta let you go come and keep talking to

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02:01:23,400 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 1: you and that's not good, but thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate you and I cannot wait

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