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Speaker 1: I wonder what the next angle will be on Travis

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Speaker 1: and Taylor. I mean, you know, every time I pick

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Speaker 1: up my phone, there's a new angle on those two.

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Speaker 1: He got, he picked her up in a Rolls Royce.

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Speaker 1: He got a house with a mini golf course. You know,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. She she posed for pictures in a

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Speaker 1: suite over the weekend, right with a bunch of people.

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Speaker 1: Bracelet exactly, so constantly new angles. But the good doctor,

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Speaker 1: doctor Lillian Glass, has been She's a body language expert.

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Speaker 1: Normally her task is to come on and tell us

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Speaker 1: which Bachelor contestants are vibing based on body language or not.

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Speaker 1: But today she's got I think a more global assignment,

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Speaker 1: and that is what does the body language say? What

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Speaker 1: do you see when you look at some specific things

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Speaker 1: between Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey? Doctor Glass, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Good so glad to be on your show.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for coming on. What have you looked at?

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Speaker 1: Can you give us some ideas of like what you act?

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Speaker 2: Is it video?

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Speaker 1: What did you see?

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Speaker 2: I looked at everything. I looked at video, I looked

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Speaker 2: at photographs, and I came up with some interesting conclusions here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: first of all, when you look at Taylor Swift without

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Speaker 2: anybody near her, when she's just walking straight in a crowd.

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Speaker 2: She has incredible posture. She's erect in her posture. Her

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Speaker 2: shoulders are back, her head is up. It looks right, Oh,

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Speaker 2: yes it is. It's a certainly something we can all model.

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Speaker 2: And she looks straight ahead. She's very engaging with the press.

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Speaker 2: When the press starts talking to her, yells to her name,

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Speaker 2: she looks in their direction, she smiles, she has some

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Speaker 2: banter with them. So she's really a whole different person.

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Speaker 2: When she's with Travis, it's completely different. Her head is down,

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Speaker 2: she's looking down, her shoulders are round. It it's a

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Speaker 2: completely different Taylor Swift than we've ever seen before. But

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Speaker 2: he's very attentive to her. He opens the door for her,

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Speaker 2: he waits for her. She's also in back of him

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Speaker 2: a lot, like he's kind of pulling her along. She's

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Speaker 2: kind of, I guess, showing a more demure side that

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Speaker 2: we really haven't seen. We definitely didn't see it in

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Speaker 2: her concerts. We've never really seen her like this, even

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Speaker 2: with other boyfriends. This is a very different situation and

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Speaker 2: she absolutely adores him. There's one photograph of her where

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Speaker 2: she's kissing him on the cheek and you know, it's

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Speaker 2: just it's so real. She absolutely adores him and it's

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Speaker 2: mutual and it's the real deal.

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Speaker 1: So if you just tune in, that's doctor lilling Glass.

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Speaker 1: She's never met them, but she studies their body language

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Speaker 1: and that's what she's talking about. And so when you

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Speaker 1: when you see you know, a little less posture and

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Speaker 1: you see this relaxed vibe that shows you that there

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Speaker 1: is a real, a genuine comfort, right, is that.

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Speaker 2: What you saying? Absolutely? Absolutely, there's so much comfort between them,

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Speaker 2: and you know she's showing her a real feminine side

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Speaker 2: where she's you know, not taking charge and she's not

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Speaker 2: the large and in charge Taylor Swift that we know.

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Speaker 2: So well, this is kind of a softer version. I'm

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Speaker 2: more laid back, relaxed, like you know, hey, I'm in

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Speaker 2: a relationship here and you're the man and I'm the woman.

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Speaker 1: Well, Douai, let me ask you. You watched the Donna

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Speaker 1: Kelsey's interview on the Today Show, right, well, what does

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Speaker 1: she think of her son's new girlfriend?

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Speaker 2: Not a whole lot. She's not committal, you know, she's noncommittal.

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Speaker 2: It's like what do you think of Taylor Swift? Like

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Speaker 2: most mothers would go great, fantastic, it's okay, what do

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Speaker 2: you mean okay? How can you be okay with Taylor Swift?

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Speaker 2: And Taylor's so animated and it's so full of life,

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Speaker 2: and the mother's kind of a down a little bit

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Speaker 2: in terms of her energy level, so you know, they're

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Speaker 2: very different energy levels. The fact that she's saying, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a new relationship. I mean, most people

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Speaker 2: wait and see what happens. And you're saying a more

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Speaker 2: enthusiastic voice, this is a very monotone voice, like yeah so,

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Speaker 2: And you know, you can understand the mother was kind

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Speaker 2: of the central figure in her son's life, and you know,

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Speaker 2: she was like the one uh that was looked at

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Speaker 2: and people, you know, were admiring her. The mother of Trump.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, maybe, like I know, in situations, it's

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Speaker 1: my own mom. Like she doesn't want to get involved.

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to get involved.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, But it's a different situation here with not

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Speaker 2: wanting to get involved. It was very very monotone, very

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Speaker 2: low key. It's kind of like, you know, let's just

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Speaker 2: you know, I really don't get involved in my stun's life,

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Speaker 2: which which she did. She has in credit to her,

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Speaker 2: but you know she's she's waiting to see what's what's

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Speaker 2: going to happen. And you know you can't blame.

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Speaker 1: Her patient, Yeah, you can't blame her patient. Well, doctor Langlass,

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Speaker 1: this is always fascinating. I love that you've studied body

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Speaker 1: language and you can, you know, come back to us

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Speaker 1: with these things. Thanks for coming on. You take good care.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon about the next stats.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you got it. That's a fascinating skill to study

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Speaker 1: body language. Imagine if you were like in your real life,

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Speaker 1: you just know what people are thinking all the time.

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Speaker 1: I'd be like a good skill set in a relationship.

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Speaker 1: I think they would take over your life too much.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to turn it off. But you know,

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Speaker 1: when asked how are you fine, you'd read.

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Speaker 2: Right into that, right or how someone sits on a

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Speaker 2: first date, whether their arms are crossed or their own.

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Speaker 1: Arms crossed is always closed, like arms cross is closed

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Speaker 1: unless you're yeah, but if you're on a first date outside,

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Speaker 1: go in. I always think about the arms cross thing.

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Speaker 1: I crossed my arms all the time. I'm cold, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with my hands,