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Speaker 1: Welcome to Hollywoodland, the rap party. What's going on, my

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Speaker 1: fellow movie geeks, you true crime freaks? Just like me,

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Speaker 1: same stories that have now made you the most dangerous

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Speaker 1: person at the party. I'm your host, Seth Lundy, writer, showrunner,

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Speaker 1: and good doctor here at Double Elvis Studios. And today

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Speaker 1: in the Hollywoodland Rap Party, we are talking about AI.

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Speaker 1: What's it good for? Absolutely nothing. Say it again. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about more news in the still unsolved question mark

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Speaker 1: So later, I'll be joined by Jake Brennan of Disgraceland

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Speaker 1: to give you some dirty recs for actors turned musicians

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Speaker 1: and musicians turned actors. Plus, I've got your calls, texts,

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Speaker 1: and emails. So come on, everybody. Let's party. This past week,

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot more about AI than I

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Speaker 1: I will say this about AI. I don't think it

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Speaker 1: magazine A Rabbit's Foot, George Lucas said, quote, artificial intelligence

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Speaker 1: He then compared AI doubters to stuck-in-their-way old fogies who

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Speaker 1: want to know is, Is George Lucas calling me an

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Speaker 1: It's a part of the idea of control. The goal

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Speaker 3: I just listened to the thing about your dirty recs

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Speaker 1: Great picks here. These are some deep pulls for So Bad.

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Speaker 1: They're good movies. We were talking about movies and music

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Speaker 1: We got another voicemail here from the 703.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Jake? And more specifically, Zeth. I had to

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Speaker 3: God Zeth understands how caffeine.

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Speaker 5: I can't tell you how many.

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Speaker 3: Times I'm having my quad espresso shot Americano and people say,

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Speaker 2: To be out of your mind.

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Speaker 1: And I always say, would you really even notice?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the longer you roast it, the darker the roast,

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Speaker 1: This one from the 978.

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Speaker 6: Dr.

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Speaker 6: Helltown Mark from the 978 checking in. Just listened to

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Speaker 6: your episode on Casino. What an awesome analysis of a

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Speaker 7: I'm curious about your take on this. Is the dummy

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Speaker 7: Also, it cannot be overstated how awesome.

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Speaker 7: You know, it would have been awesome. Anyway, keep up

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Speaker 1: Helltown Mark, great to hear from you. I'm just laughing about.

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Speaker 1: Helltown Mark, appreciate you always. Thanks for calling in. 617-906-6638.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's Dee from Dallas.

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Speaker 5: And I just listened to the episode about Scorsese and

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Speaker 5: Jared Leto. I will fight someone over that. Seriously, I

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Speaker 5: Definitely 100,000% Jared motherfucking Leto. Bye.

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Speaker 1: D from Dallas, great to hear from you. Jared motherfucking Leto.

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Speaker 1: No stranger to controversy, just like our guy Will Smith.

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Speaker 1: You know what? You mentioning Jared Leto, did I forget

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Speaker 1: may have. Anyways. Thank you, Dee. Appreciate you for calling in.

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Speaker 2: 617-906-6638.

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Speaker 1: We got a text from the 508 via the 617

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Speaker 1: A movie so bad it's good is Mike Judge's 2006

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Speaker 1: film Idiocracy. Great cast. I'd be lying if I told

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Speaker 1: you I remember much about this movie, but it seems

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Speaker 1: apropos in this age of AI. Jamie, I think prescient

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Speaker 1: is the term you're looking for here. this film seems to,

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00:26:43,490 --> 00:26:46,899
Speaker 1: it seemed like really, really funny and ridiculous back in

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Speaker 1: the day. And now it's like a reality show documentary, right?

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Speaker 1: I never found this movie so bad. It's good. I

434
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Speaker 1: enjoyed the movie. I didn't think it was a, I

435
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Speaker 1: see what you mean though. I can see what you mean,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't never really lumped it in that category.

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00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,690
Speaker 1: It was always a good movie. I think Mike Judge's

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Speaker 1: best movie remains Office Space, which also, you know, in

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00:27:08,890 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: a post-COVID situation, world where so many people are working

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00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,550
Speaker 1: from home and saying, I don't want to do that

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00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:18,810
Speaker 1: fucking stupid job anymore. That seems very prescient as well.

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00:27:19,290 --> 00:27:23,790
Speaker 1: Who would have thunk it? Mike Judge, looking into the future. 617-906-6638.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again, Jimmy, by the way. Got a text from

444
00:27:29,010 --> 00:27:34,290
Speaker 1: the 720, says, Hey, Zeth, Rayma and Joshua Tree here.

445
00:27:34,670 --> 00:27:36,590
Speaker 1: Just quick aside, I hope I'm saying this name correctly.

446
00:27:36,609 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: It's R-E-M-A and there's a flat accent over the E.

447
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 1: I believe that's Rayma. So forgive me, Rayma, if that

448
00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:47,830
Speaker 1: is incorrect, and please correct me if I'm wrong. Rayma

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00:27:47,869 --> 00:27:54,429
Speaker 1: and Joshua Tree here. Best musicians turned actor, Steven Van Zandt, Silvio,

450
00:27:54,609 --> 00:27:58,810
Speaker 1: Nuff Said, Lee Ving. His acting roles, especially in Streets

451
00:27:58,830 --> 00:28:02,410
Speaker 1: of Fire as gang leader Greer and Clue as Mr.

452
00:28:02,490 --> 00:28:05,450
Speaker 1: Body were perfectly cast. He just has that kind of

453
00:28:05,530 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: punchable sleazeball face And his front man of fear, rude

454
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:14,460
Speaker 1: punk stage persona translates perfectly to bad guy roles. Awkwafina.

455
00:28:14,940 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: She's just amazing and hilarious in everything she does. And obviously, Dolly.

456
00:28:20,590 --> 00:28:23,090
Speaker 1: So bad, they're good movies. I don't even know where

457
00:28:23,130 --> 00:28:27,010
Speaker 1: to begin. Rock and Roll High School. Silent Night. Deadly Night.

458
00:28:27,609 --> 00:28:31,649
Speaker 1: Earth Girls Are Easy. Tremors. They Live. Carnival of Souls.

459
00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:35,430
Speaker 1: Dead Alive. All John Waters. All Day Long. The list

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Speaker 1: goes on. Just take your pick and run with it.

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00:28:38,390 --> 00:28:41,709
Speaker 1: Thanks for being awesome. Thank you, Raymond. Thank you for

462
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:43,890
Speaker 1: being awesome. And thanks for texting in with all these

463
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Speaker 1: answers to numerous questions we had here in Hollywood land.

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00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:49,540
Speaker 1: Earth girls are easy and tremors.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: And yes, absolutely. And I think there's a case to

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Speaker 1: be made here for, I know that John Carpenter is

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Speaker 1: one of these sacred cows when it comes to especially

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00:29:01,510 --> 00:29:04,030
Speaker 1: horror films. I do think there's a case to be

470
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Speaker 1: made though, that, I don't know. And don't like, don't,

471
00:29:08,770 --> 00:29:10,230
Speaker 1: don't yell at me here, but you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Rayma knows what I'm talking about. John Carpenter is, is great,

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00:29:14,670 --> 00:29:17,350
Speaker 1: but is he, is he so bad? He's great. And like,

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Speaker 1: he might be, um, there's this, you know, there's this

475
00:29:20,590 --> 00:29:25,070
Speaker 1: sort of like B movie quality that runs through everything

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00:29:25,150 --> 00:29:28,930
Speaker 1: he does. And of course, you know, uh, rowdy, rowdy Piper's,

477
00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:34,010
Speaker 1: you know, uh, he's not fucking Robert De Niro. Right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, on purpose, I think. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: that's the whole point. But anyways, what do you guys think?

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Speaker 1: Does John Carpenter so bad he's good?

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00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: Let me know.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, let me know in a non-angry way.

483
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,730
Speaker 1: I don't mean that in a pejorative way at all, okay?

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Speaker 1: So don't take it that way. Thank you, Rayma, for

485
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: texting in 617-906-6638. Got a text here from the 386. Says, hello, Zeth.

486
00:30:00,060 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: This is Shauna, originally from the 603, but now reside

487
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Speaker 1: in the 386. My musician with the best transition into

488
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: acting is a personal one for me because to me,

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Speaker 1: it's my grandmother, Priscilla Lane. Would love to hear an

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Speaker 1: episode about her and her sisters. Love the show. Well, Shauna,

491
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:22,110
Speaker 1: the Lane sisters, I don't know a ton about your grandmother.

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00:30:22,150 --> 00:30:25,390
Speaker 1: I do know of the Lane sisters. And forgive me

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00:30:25,450 --> 00:30:30,070
Speaker 1: if I'm mistaken, but I believe... Priscilla Lane was in

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00:30:30,110 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: a Cary Grant film? Maybe a Capra film? Now I'm

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Speaker 1: intrigued and I want to know more and learn more.

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00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:40,740
Speaker 1: And I wonder if there's anything that you know about

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Speaker 1: of the Lane sisters' history that could make a good

498
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Speaker 1: Hollywoodland episode or some sort of content here. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me know. This is really cool. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for texting in with that.

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Speaker 2: 617-906-6638.

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Speaker 1: Got a text here from The 207 says, good morning,

503
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Speaker 1: Zeth from Western Maine. My first thought for best crossover

504
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,770
Speaker 1: musical artist was LL Cool J. Then I thought about

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00:31:06,830 --> 00:31:12,570
Speaker 1: all the others. Sinatra, Dean Martin, Ludacris, Madonna, Ice-T, Ice Cube,

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00:31:12,850 --> 00:31:15,410
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga. But the one that could draw an audience

507
00:31:15,490 --> 00:31:19,050
Speaker 1: by his name alone was Will Smith. So by that matrix,

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00:31:19,130 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: Will Smith, in my opinion, is the best crossover. My

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00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: so bad it's good movie is Dick Tracy with Warren

510
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:33,070
Speaker 1: Beatty and Madonna. 207, thank you for texting in. Dick Tracy,

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00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:37,230
Speaker 1: I remember the hype for this film was off the

512
00:31:37,330 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: fucking charts. Like, I don't know that I'd ever lived

513
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,580
Speaker 1: through this much hype for a movie at that age,

514
00:31:45,620 --> 00:31:47,940
Speaker 1: at that time. What was this, 1990 this came out?

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00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: So this is right after Batman, right? Batman had Prince,

516
00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:58,860
Speaker 1: and this had Madonna. And I just remember... being on

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00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: the one hand so drawn to the weirdness of this

518
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: thing and to the outlandish look of the characters and

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00:32:08,140 --> 00:32:11,010
Speaker 1: the colors, but also on the other hand being like,

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00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:16,570
Speaker 1: what the fuck am I watching? This isn't like Batman.

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00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:21,110
Speaker 1: It was weird. It was such a weird experience. And

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Speaker 1: I think this might be one of the most perfect

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00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: so bad it's good films out there. I have not

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00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,180
Speaker 1: watched this since I was a kid. I haven't really

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00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:34,050
Speaker 1: had a desire to. You're kind of giving me reason

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00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:39,250
Speaker 1: here to go back and check it out. 617-906-6638, that's

527
00:32:39,290 --> 00:32:41,730
Speaker 1: how you get involved. I got so many texts here, guys.

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00:32:42,370 --> 00:32:46,010
Speaker 1: I got a text from the 785 that says Dwight

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00:32:46,090 --> 00:32:51,380
Speaker 1: Yoakam is the best musician turned actor. He's a great pick.

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00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,370
Speaker 1: The 785 here mentions Sling Blade. but there's also David

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Speaker 1: Fincher's Panic Romies in that. I've got a text here

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00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,860
Speaker 1: from the 610 that says that we could add to

533
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: the casino hypothetical theoretical mixtape, Hit Me Baby One More

534
00:33:09,020 --> 00:33:11,980
Speaker 1: Time by Britney Spears, which is how I get into

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00:33:12,050 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: trouble at the blackjack tables. That's from Jonathan, by the way,

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Speaker 1: in the 610. Thanks, Jonathan. But let's switch gears here

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Speaker 1: for a moment over to emails. I got an email

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Speaker 1: from Jason, and the subject line is actor from musician. Zeth,

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00:33:29,860 --> 00:33:32,860
Speaker 1: Jason from the 845 here. Best, and I'm only talking

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00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,700
Speaker 1: here about successful ones before acting. Almost every actor was

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Speaker 1: in a band in high school.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Cher, Bowie, Katie Sagal, and Frank Sinatra, Ice-T, maybe Queen

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00:33:44,620 --> 00:33:50,130
Speaker 1: Latifah too. The worst, Madonna, Stink, I mean Sting.

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00:33:50,150 --> 00:33:50,630
Speaker 2: Okay.

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00:33:51,910 --> 00:33:56,070
Speaker 1: Also, Bjork, I love her music, but yikes. And Lyle Lovett,

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00:33:56,490 --> 00:33:59,989
Speaker 1: as mentioned in previous letter. I think Lyle Lovett's so

548
00:34:00,010 --> 00:34:02,130
Speaker 1: bad he's good, though. I don't think he's the worst.

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00:34:02,190 --> 00:34:05,780
Speaker 1: I think I really, really enjoy him. And I don't

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00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,860
Speaker 1: enjoy him the way I enjoy, you know, Al Pacino.

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00:34:09,460 --> 00:34:11,100
Speaker 1: But I enjoy him the way I enjoy Lyle Lovett.

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00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,580
Speaker 1: But this is a great list. Appreciate that. If you

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00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:21,250
Speaker 1: want to email us, guys, disgracelandpod at gmail.com. And, you know,

554
00:34:21,390 --> 00:34:23,750
Speaker 1: one final thing I want to hit here before I

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00:34:23,870 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: bring Jake Brennan into the show is over on Patreon.

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00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:33,180
Speaker 1: That's Disgraceland All Access on Patreon. One of our members

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00:34:33,340 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: over there, Alan, answered this question in the chat there.

558
00:34:37,580 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: I just wanted to read it here because it's well

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00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: thought out and a good deep dive into this. So

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00:34:42,700 --> 00:34:45,910
Speaker 1: Alan writes... What musician made the best transition into acting?

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00:34:46,070 --> 00:34:48,730
Speaker 1: The Fresh Prince, Marky Mark, Ice Cube, Queen Latifah, and

562
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:52,370
Speaker 1: Cher all seem too obvious. All great careers, but I

563
00:34:52,430 --> 00:34:55,790
Speaker 1: dislike so many of their films. My top five off

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00:34:55,870 --> 00:34:59,850
Speaker 1: the top of my head. Number five, David Bowie. Watching

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00:35:00,010 --> 00:35:03,310
Speaker 1: the Linguini incident two weeks back, I was reminded how

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Speaker 1: much I liked that guy. The Man Who Fell to Earth,

567
00:35:05,730 --> 00:35:09,310
Speaker 1: The Hunger, Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence, Labyrinth, The Last Temptation

568
00:35:09,330 --> 00:35:14,060
Speaker 1: of Christ. That's a career. Number four, Sting. Dude brought

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00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:18,310
Speaker 1: some serious intensity to roles in Stormy Monday, Dune, Brimstone

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00:35:18,350 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: and Treacle, and even The Bride, but he shines in Quadrophenia. Three, Ice-T.

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00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: 25 years on SVU and New Jack City. Dude made

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00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:29,779
Speaker 1: I Want to Shoot You Bad, My Dick is Hard,

573
00:35:29,860 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: Not Laughable. I'm trying to read that sentence. Number two,

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Speaker 1: Dwight Yoakam. If he only did Sling Blade, he'd be

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Speaker 1: on this list. Dude was the fucking devil in that movie,

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00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: but he also did the Crank films and completely understands

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Speaker 1: the assignment. Number one, Frank Sinatra. The goat, possibly. He

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00:35:47,780 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 1: started down a route of Elvis-like cheese, of shit musicals,

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Speaker 1: but changed course to films such as The Manchurian Candidate,

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Speaker 1: Some Came Running, From Here to Eternity, and his Oscar-nominated

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Speaker 1: work in The Man with the Golden Arm. Honorable mention,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Willis. pre-moonlighting bar singer who released a few post-moonlighting

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Speaker 1: albums as Bruno. And trivia, Die Hard is a sequel,

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Speaker 1: a hidden sequel, to Sinatra's film The Detective. I already

585
00:36:17,739 --> 00:36:20,020
Speaker 1: thanked Alan for this list on Patreon. I just want

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Speaker 1: to say thank you again for chiming in with all

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Speaker 1: of that. I do not know Sinatra's film The Detective.

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00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,460
Speaker 1: I got to see what this connection to Die Hard

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Speaker 1: is all about. I will say, Alan, this Bruce Willis record,

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Speaker 1: The Return of Bruno, which came out the mid 80s,

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Speaker 1: somewhere on the time that Eddie Murphy put out My

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Speaker 1: Girl Likes to Party all the time with Rick James.

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Speaker 1: Bruce Willis, who was potentially my favorite actor when I

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Speaker 1: was a kid, I think he was, I was a

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Speaker 1: huge Moonlighting fan, huge Die Hard fan, just huge fan

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Speaker 1: of Bruce Willis in general. He put out a record

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Speaker 1: on Motown Records. And guys, it is so bad. It's

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00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:06,890
Speaker 1: so bad. You can find it for like a dollar

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00:37:07,010 --> 00:37:10,230
Speaker 1: at your local record store, used record store. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: buy a copy because it's fun to have and it's

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00:37:13,230 --> 00:37:15,350
Speaker 1: fun to show your friends. But the last time I

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00:37:15,390 --> 00:37:16,890
Speaker 1: tried to listen to it, I was like, I'm just

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Speaker 1: going to put this on because really, how bad can

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Speaker 1: it be? Well, listener, bad. It can be very, very,

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Speaker 1: very bad. And I love Bruce Willis. All right, Alan,

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Speaker 1: thank you. For those who don't know what I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about here, Disgraceland All Access over on Patreon. We have

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00:37:35,890 --> 00:37:38,940
Speaker 1: a Patreon thing. You can become a member. You can

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Speaker 1: get ad-free listening to all episodes of Disgraceland and Hollywoodland.

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Speaker 1: You can get our Patreon-exclusive video podcast called This Film

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00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:54,870
Speaker 1: Should Be Played Loud. Again, exclusively on Patreon. This is

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00:37:54,930 --> 00:37:58,430
Speaker 1: a show that's co-hosted by yours truly, and Jake Brennan.

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00:37:58,469 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: We talk about the soundtracks and the scores and the

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Speaker 1: music of our favorite movies. We have a brand new

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Speaker 1: episode coming out next week on Gross Point Blank, the

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Speaker 1: John Cusack film, which has an incredible, incredible Gen X soundtrack.

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Speaker 1: And it's just a really, really fun movie in general.

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Speaker 1: So if you are not a member of Disgraced In

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Speaker 1: All Access, you want to check that out. You want

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Speaker 1: to jump into the chat with your fellow discos 24-7,

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Speaker 1: just like Alan. Just go to disgracelandpod.com and right there

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Speaker 1: on the homepage is more info and a link to

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Speaker 1: sign up. All right. All right. As promised, going to

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Speaker 1: have some dirty wrecks coming at you with Jake Brennan.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do that in just a moment. Hang tight.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to the Hollywood land rap party. We're

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Speaker 1: in the dirty Rex section of the show talking about

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Speaker 1: musicians turned actors and actors turned musicians and, uh, the

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Speaker 1: dirty Rex they're in.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, man? How was Vegas by the way?

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Speaker 4: Vegas was, uh, well, it was great. I had a

635
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,940
Speaker 4: great time, incredible time. Um, But I got there and

636
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 4: I landed and I was like, I fucking hate this city.

637
00:39:25,660 --> 00:39:28,150
Speaker 4: I hate it so much. It's my least favorite. I've

638
00:39:28,170 --> 00:39:29,230
Speaker 4: been to Las Vegas twice.

639
00:39:29,250 --> 00:39:30,670
Speaker 1: Oh, okay.

640
00:39:31,210 --> 00:39:34,350
Speaker 4: Actually, more than that. I can't remember driving through when

641
00:39:34,370 --> 00:39:36,410
Speaker 4: I was younger. And I think Kastner and Hike might

642
00:39:36,430 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 4: have stopped there. We never played there. But I've been

643
00:39:38,860 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 4: there twice in the last few years. And for both times,

644
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,180
Speaker 4: I wasn't drinking. And I guess it's a good thing

645
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,540
Speaker 4: to be in Vegas and not drinking. I mean, the excess,

646
00:39:49,739 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: it's just all, it's everywhere.

647
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: I know, I know.

648
00:39:53,060 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: And I think that's the way, I don't gamble. So,

649
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,989
Speaker 4: you know, no shade on anyone who does, but it

650
00:39:59,030 --> 00:40:03,129
Speaker 4: ain't my thing, baby. And so what's left, but just

651
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:06,709
Speaker 4: drinking and partying. And I didn't do any of that.

652
00:40:06,930 --> 00:40:08,969
Speaker 4: And I managed to have a really good time. It

653
00:40:09,010 --> 00:40:11,310
Speaker 4: took me a day to kind of get myself oriented,

654
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:12,530
Speaker 4: but it was awesome.

655
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Speaker 7: Nice.

656
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:13,830
Speaker 1: Awesome.

657
00:40:13,890 --> 00:40:14,089
Speaker 7: Cool.

658
00:40:14,110 --> 00:40:16,410
Speaker 1: Well, welcome back into the fold here.

659
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Speaker 4: I'm happy to be back, dude. Despite the fact that

660
00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:24,549
Speaker 4: this fucking category, this conversation for Rex today is my

661
00:40:24,610 --> 00:40:27,130
Speaker 4: least favorite that you've done because- I.

662
00:40:27,660 --> 00:40:29,469
Speaker 1: Feel like every week you're like throwing shade at me

663
00:40:29,489 --> 00:40:31,420
Speaker 1: with my, you're like, oh, this is too hard.

664
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,779
Speaker 4: I like, I'm not complaining when they're too hard. I

665
00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:36,820
Speaker 4: like when they're hard. This is impossible. This is impossible.

666
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,460
Speaker 4: But I do think I found a way to make

667
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 4: it interesting at least.

668
00:40:39,820 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: Okay, great.

669
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,700
Speaker 4: Finding actors who have successfully transitioned to music.

670
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Speaker 2: Sorry.

671
00:40:47,730 --> 00:40:48,089
Speaker 1: It tough.

672
00:40:48,510 --> 00:40:49,750
Speaker 4: I didn't think it was going to be that hard.

673
00:40:49,810 --> 00:40:51,629
Speaker 1: I didn't, I didn't, I didn't think about it really

674
00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:54,300
Speaker 1: that long, but I assumed it wouldn't be that tough,

675
00:40:54,380 --> 00:40:55,610
Speaker 1: but so I'm sorry if it is.

676
00:40:56,060 --> 00:40:59,219
Speaker 4: I just, you know, snapshot, I, I Googled my, I,

677
00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:02,779
Speaker 4: you know, picture me about to Google Scarlett Johansson and

678
00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:03,300
Speaker 4: Pete Yorn.

679
00:41:03,420 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: Okay.

680
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 4: That's how, and I'm trying to give you that note.

681
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: I haven't heard that album, so I can't say whether

682
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:11,140
Speaker 4: or not it's good or not. That's the album where

683
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,420
Speaker 4: she's doing all Tom Waits stuff.

684
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,060
Speaker 1: Tom Waits songs.

685
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

686
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:13,620
Speaker 7: Yeah.

687
00:41:13,660 --> 00:41:16,100
Speaker 4: I love Scarlett Johansson and I love Pete Yorn. At

688
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,299
Speaker 4: least I love his first record. But I have never

689
00:41:18,340 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 4: heard that album, or I should say I've never listened

690
00:41:20,860 --> 00:41:22,390
Speaker 4: to it. I'm sure I've heard it in passing.

691
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:22,890
Speaker 2: Right.

692
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:25,549
Speaker 4: Okay, this is all, it's all making perfect sense, too,

693
00:41:25,590 --> 00:41:27,550
Speaker 4: because I'm in the middle of a week of research

694
00:41:28,190 --> 00:41:32,750
Speaker 4: on Jared Leto right now, going from creepy actor to

695
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:35,190
Speaker 4: creepy musician in 30 Seconds to Mars.

696
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:35,750
Speaker 7: Okay.

697
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:40,290
Speaker 4: And I cannot recommend any 30 Seconds to Mars for

698
00:41:40,330 --> 00:41:43,050
Speaker 4: the listeners. Dude, this is what I'm coming with, okay?

699
00:41:43,330 --> 00:41:44,029
Speaker 1: Yeah.

700
00:41:44,190 --> 00:41:48,620
Speaker 4: I'm about to recommend... Zoe fucking Deschanel. Okay.

701
00:41:50,110 --> 00:41:50,509
Speaker 1: All right.

702
00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:52,370
Speaker 4: Cause I like her voice.

703
00:41:52,469 --> 00:41:52,850
Speaker 2: Okay.

704
00:41:53,070 --> 00:41:53,270
Speaker 7: Sure.

705
00:41:53,290 --> 00:41:53,669
Speaker 5: Of course.

706
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:56,390
Speaker 4: I mean, in Elf, she starts singing and you're like.

707
00:41:56,450 --> 00:41:58,610
Speaker 1: I know. You're like, oh, this is, this sounds great.

708
00:41:58,830 --> 00:41:59,210
Speaker 2: Yeah.

709
00:41:59,530 --> 00:42:00,050
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

710
00:42:00,430 --> 00:42:02,509
Speaker 4: And I gotta say, I have the She and Him

711
00:42:02,830 --> 00:42:03,550
Speaker 4: Christmas album.

712
00:42:03,810 --> 00:42:04,089
Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

713
00:42:04,330 --> 00:42:05,330
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I like it.

714
00:42:05,390 --> 00:42:08,009
Speaker 4: My wife fucking hates it. It's a hard, turn this

715
00:42:08,050 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 4: shit off. It's that like, she can't stand it. She

716
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,339
Speaker 4: and him is Zooey Deschanel and M. Ward, and they

717
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,540
Speaker 4: have a magnificent Christmas album from 2011, and I highly

718
00:42:16,580 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: recommend anyone check it out. I remember I went to

719
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 4: see Rilo Kiley at the Greek, and when we got there,

720
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,569
Speaker 4: my buddy Evan and myself found out, because he knew

721
00:42:27,610 --> 00:42:30,430
Speaker 4: someone who was guitar teching for them, and we hooked

722
00:42:30,469 --> 00:42:32,989
Speaker 4: up with this dude earlier, and we found out as

723
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:35,430
Speaker 4: we were walking in that it was Rilo Kiley's last show.

724
00:42:36,330 --> 00:42:36,610
Speaker 1: Okay.

725
00:42:36,650 --> 00:42:36,830
Speaker 7: Wow.

726
00:42:37,050 --> 00:42:37,450
Speaker 1: Yeah.

727
00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:40,130
Speaker 4: Which is pretty, pretty exciting. And we got in and

728
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:42,330
Speaker 4: we were, we were backstage and it was LA. So

729
00:42:42,350 --> 00:42:45,580
Speaker 4: it was like Winona Ryder and Jackson Brown and all,

730
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 4: you know, all these like right there, you know, and

731
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:52,140
Speaker 4: Zooey Deschanel. And I don't remember Zeth what I said

732
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: to her, but I remember it was, I made it weird.

733
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

734
00:42:56,940 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

735
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,370
Speaker 4: Completely unintentional. I did not mean, and I don't remember

736
00:43:00,390 --> 00:43:02,950
Speaker 4: what it was, but I'm still like, oh fuck. And

737
00:43:02,969 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 4: I wasn't even trying to, It was just a very

738
00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:10,140
Speaker 4: kind of like happenstance. You're like right in my orbit here.

739
00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:12,899
Speaker 4: And I said something and it was, maybe it wasn't weird.

740
00:43:12,940 --> 00:43:14,900
Speaker 4: And I just kind of like think about it like that.

741
00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:18,430
Speaker 4: I had one of those moments this weekend in Vegas, uh,

742
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 4: I was backstage and I saw this, this, this dude

743
00:43:21,140 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 4: just standing right next to me. He had this really

744
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:26,029
Speaker 4: cool fucking camera hanging around his neck. I'm like, Hey,

745
00:43:26,050 --> 00:43:28,549
Speaker 4: is that a Leica? What is that? And, uh, he

746
00:43:28,590 --> 00:43:31,850
Speaker 4: starts talking, answer. It was, and he starts answering questions

747
00:43:31,930 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 4: and I'm asking him questions. And as I'm asking questions,

748
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:39,140
Speaker 4: he's literally backing away from me. I'm like, what the

749
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:44,250
Speaker 4: fuck is this guy's problem? And he's really good looking. Really,

750
00:43:44,450 --> 00:43:47,089
Speaker 4: really good looking dude. I'm like, does he think I'm

751
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:50,170
Speaker 4: hitting on him? And he's got a ring on. I'm like,

752
00:43:50,469 --> 00:43:52,450
Speaker 4: this is a married gay man who thinks I'm hitting

753
00:43:52,510 --> 00:43:55,620
Speaker 4: on him. That's got to be what's going on. And

754
00:43:56,540 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 4: later that night, I'm on Instagram and he pops up

755
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: on my Instagram as part of this event.

756
00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 7: And it was.

757
00:44:05,690 --> 00:44:07,530
Speaker 4: I had no idea. It was the singer for Hanson.

758
00:44:07,550 --> 00:44:08,370
Speaker 4: Remember Hanson?

759
00:44:08,489 --> 00:44:08,950
Speaker 6: Mbop?

760
00:44:09,350 --> 00:44:11,330
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mbop.

761
00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: One of my son's favorite songs ever, by the way.

762
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,380
Speaker 4: And I had no idea it was him. It was

763
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,219
Speaker 4: Tyler Hanson. And he was significantly freaked out a la

764
00:44:19,260 --> 00:44:20,300
Speaker 4: Zooey Deschanel style.

765
00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:20,540
Speaker 7: Wow.

766
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,500
Speaker 4: But in this case, I know I did nothing wrong.

767
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,540
Speaker 4: I was just fucking talking.

768
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: To the dude. Those two have something to talk about

769
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: now when they get together.

770
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

771
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: Man, you've been traumatized by Jake Brennan as well.

772
00:44:29,620 --> 00:44:32,910
Speaker 4: Two decades apart. Who is that guy?

773
00:44:32,969 --> 00:44:34,739
Speaker 1: He was asking about my fucking camera. I'm like, what

774
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,089
Speaker 1: the hell?

775
00:44:35,469 --> 00:44:36,410
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was.

776
00:44:36,530 --> 00:44:40,210
Speaker 4: Fucking weird, dude. It was fucking weird. Anyhow. Okay, so

777
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:41,930
Speaker 4: I'm not recommending Hanson.

778
00:44:42,130 --> 00:44:42,750
Speaker 1: Okay.

779
00:44:42,969 --> 00:44:45,810
Speaker 4: Handsome. I can't say it. Because there's a great hardcore

780
00:44:45,830 --> 00:44:49,330
Speaker 4: band called Handsome that I'm... I recommend them highly. Tom Capone, Handsome.

781
00:44:49,350 --> 00:44:49,940
Speaker 4: Go check that out.

782
00:44:49,969 --> 00:44:50,350
Speaker 1: There you go.

783
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:54,940
Speaker 4: Okay. My next recommendation, can't believe you're making a recommendation.

784
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 4: Remember Leif Garrett?

785
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:56,940
Speaker 2: Yeah.

786
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 4: Okay. The heartthrob, the teenage heartthrob.

787
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: I do remember Leif Garrett. Yes. Yeah. Okay.

788
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,290
Speaker 4: Actor, 70s, was in The Outsiders. Like a real dude,

789
00:45:07,310 --> 00:45:10,890
Speaker 4: but a teen idol pop sensation type guy, right?

790
00:45:11,150 --> 00:45:11,530
Speaker 5: Yeah.

791
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:14,469
Speaker 4: He's the main social in The Outsiders. I don't know

792
00:45:14,489 --> 00:45:16,089
Speaker 4: what the fuck happened to him afterward, but he had

793
00:45:16,110 --> 00:45:20,029
Speaker 4: a fall from grace. And in 2000, he ended up.

794
00:45:20,989 --> 00:45:28,299
Speaker 4: in the most unlikely of circumstances, somehow singing on the

795
00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:31,340
Speaker 4: Melvins cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana.

796
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 7: Really?

797
00:45:32,460 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: Really, yes. Now, if anyone doesn't know who the Melvins are,

798
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,299
Speaker 4: they're one of the greatest metal bands, heavy metal. I

799
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 4: don't even call them metal. They define heaviness. And they

800
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:46,190
Speaker 4: were one of the biggest influences on Kurt Cobain. Their drummer,

801
00:45:46,290 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 4: Dale Crover, was actually in Nirvana for a while. pre-dave

802
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,830
Speaker 4: grohl obviously and in 2000 they made a record called

803
00:45:56,350 --> 00:45:59,250
Speaker 4: the cry baby and there's a cover of smells like

804
00:45:59,270 --> 00:46:01,910
Speaker 4: teen spirit with leaf garrett that's how fucking deep i

805
00:46:01,950 --> 00:46:04,750
Speaker 4: had to go to find a music actor because i'm

806
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: not i'm not recommending johnny depp okay oh man yeah

807
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: despite you know i like The Johnny Depp contribution on

808
00:46:13,660 --> 00:46:17,299
Speaker 4: the Ryan Adams album that Mike Viola produced. I can't

809
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 4: say that I can pull it out of thin air,

810
00:46:18,820 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: but I remember going, hmm, okay, pretty fucking good.

811
00:46:21,260 --> 00:46:22,049
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.

812
00:46:22,930 --> 00:46:25,450
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's two hard-fought ones there.

813
00:46:25,469 --> 00:46:28,450
Speaker 1: Man, I'm sorry. My assignment was so much easier that

814
00:46:28,469 --> 00:46:30,950
Speaker 1: I just assumed that yours would be. I apologize.

815
00:46:30,969 --> 00:46:33,420
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally cool, totally cool. It did bring up all

816
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,870
Speaker 4: these kind of personal things. I, I was, I was

817
00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:38,910
Speaker 4: cast on hike was on a compilation with Keanu Reeves,

818
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:40,410
Speaker 4: his dog star back in the day.

819
00:46:40,650 --> 00:46:40,810
Speaker 7: Yeah.

820
00:46:40,830 --> 00:46:41,009
Speaker 1: Yeah.

821
00:46:41,330 --> 00:46:41,549
Speaker 5: Yeah.

822
00:46:41,590 --> 00:46:43,230
Speaker 4: My friend, Julie Duffy hooked that up when she was

823
00:46:43,250 --> 00:46:46,340
Speaker 4: working at Columbia. That was some Sony records video game

824
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 4: type fucking thing. I don't remember, but you know, cool.

825
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,700
Speaker 4: My mom all of a sudden gave a shit about

826
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,180
Speaker 4: my band because I could be like, well, this dude

827
00:46:53,469 --> 00:46:56,270
Speaker 4: and me, look, our names are right next to each other. Well,

828
00:46:56,310 --> 00:46:57,129
Speaker 4: our band names, you know.

829
00:46:57,070 --> 00:46:57,390
Speaker 1: What I mean?

830
00:46:57,410 --> 00:46:57,629
Speaker 7: Right.

831
00:46:57,650 --> 00:46:57,790
Speaker 2: Right.

832
00:46:58,010 --> 00:46:59,810
Speaker 4: I got to say, you know, I've never like gone

833
00:46:59,830 --> 00:47:04,570
Speaker 4: to her shows or heard anything recorded, but the Juliette

834
00:47:04,590 --> 00:47:07,550
Speaker 4: Lewis in the lick stuff that I've seen live stuff

835
00:47:07,630 --> 00:47:11,450
Speaker 4: on stage is pretty fucking compelling.

836
00:47:11,730 --> 00:47:11,870
Speaker 7: Yeah.

837
00:47:11,890 --> 00:47:13,029
Speaker 1: It's pretty rock and roll for sure.

838
00:47:13,150 --> 00:47:15,549
Speaker 4: Pretty rock and roll. Like she, she would have been,

839
00:47:16,310 --> 00:47:18,570
Speaker 4: a great front person or is a great front person.

840
00:47:18,590 --> 00:47:20,009
Speaker 4: But I mean, she would have had a career as

841
00:47:20,070 --> 00:47:22,029
Speaker 4: a great front person if she were not an actor,

842
00:47:22,070 --> 00:47:22,410
Speaker 4: I believe.

843
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:23,450
Speaker 7: Okay.

844
00:47:23,469 --> 00:47:25,910
Speaker 4: This next one's not good. I don't recommend listening to

845
00:47:25,989 --> 00:47:28,770
Speaker 4: it for musical enjoyment, but it is compelling.

846
00:47:29,210 --> 00:47:29,450
Speaker 1: Okay.

847
00:47:30,030 --> 00:47:33,370
Speaker 4: And Iron Man, Robert Downey Jr. put out an album

848
00:47:33,790 --> 00:47:36,770
Speaker 4: in 2004 called The Future. And I remember hearing like

849
00:47:36,830 --> 00:47:40,370
Speaker 4: some fucking NPR interview with him around the time and

850
00:47:40,450 --> 00:47:43,890
Speaker 4: hearing a piece, it's all piano music, like contemporary, like

851
00:47:44,610 --> 00:47:48,529
Speaker 4: jazz piano guy singing on jazz is a stretch.

852
00:47:48,570 --> 00:47:52,790
Speaker 1: Like George Winston kind of stuff. Cause I haven't heard this.

853
00:47:53,370 --> 00:47:56,090
Speaker 4: Who's the guy. He's a famous director. Now he made tar,

854
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:59,630
Speaker 4: but he's Todd, Todd field, Todd field. He played, you know,

855
00:47:59,650 --> 00:48:04,150
Speaker 4: the guy he plays Nick Nightingale. Yeah. That's kind of

856
00:48:04,170 --> 00:48:06,170
Speaker 4: what Robert Downey jr. I think was going for it.

857
00:48:07,690 --> 00:48:09,730
Speaker 4: So I just remembered this. I'm like, Oh, I'm going

858
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:11,350
Speaker 4: to check that out. Cause I, I had a note

859
00:48:11,370 --> 00:48:13,290
Speaker 4: in my head of hearing that then and being like, wow,

860
00:48:13,370 --> 00:48:16,390
Speaker 4: this doesn't suck. It's fucking awful. I just went back

861
00:48:16,450 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 4: and checked it out. It's so bad, but it's so

862
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:26,350
Speaker 4: interesting because it's loaded with his biography. And it's like,

863
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:32,950
Speaker 4: didn't show up for the gig on Monday morning. It's

864
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:34,089
Speaker 4: kind of that, but.

865
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:34,450
Speaker 2: Wow.

866
00:48:34,770 --> 00:48:36,670
Speaker 1: Was this like court ordered as part of his like

867
00:48:36,690 --> 00:48:38,570
Speaker 1: treatment program or something?

868
00:48:38,610 --> 00:48:39,410
Speaker 3: Yes.

869
00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:46,299
Speaker 4: But it's in his unmistakable voice. Like it doesn't sound like,

870
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:49,339
Speaker 4: you know, some singers when they sing, they sound like

871
00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:52,020
Speaker 4: a different thing. You know, like in some singers just

872
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,900
Speaker 4: sound like themselves and that's, he sounds like himself, which again,

873
00:48:54,980 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 4: I think makes this more compelling. So I'm recommending, I guess,

874
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,459
Speaker 4: The Future by Robert Downey Jr. and Smells Like Teen

875
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: Spirit by Leif Garrett in the Melvins and Zooey Deschanel

876
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,850
Speaker 4: as part of She and Him in their 2011 Christmas

877
00:49:10,050 --> 00:49:15,090
Speaker 4: album with some nods to Juliette Lewis and The Licks

878
00:49:15,489 --> 00:49:18,830
Speaker 4: and Keanu Reeves' Dog Star and definitely not Jared Leto's

879
00:49:18,910 --> 00:49:21,140
Speaker 4: Three Seconds Tomorrow. there you go.

880
00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: Awesome well that was a that was a heroic feat

881
00:49:24,860 --> 00:49:27,779
Speaker 1: thank you for for digging in and and getting those

882
00:49:27,860 --> 00:49:30,180
Speaker 1: man that was i i can't believe i didn't realize

883
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: how hard that was gonna be.

884
00:49:31,260 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: No it was it was you know i i welcome

885
00:49:33,210 --> 00:49:34,089
Speaker 4: it i welcome.

886
00:49:33,810 --> 00:49:36,009
Speaker 1: The push all right good good good i like the

887
00:49:36,030 --> 00:49:38,410
Speaker 1: rabbit holes i'll uh i'll this is gonna be a

888
00:49:38,410 --> 00:49:41,810
Speaker 1: little bit More down the middle here. So I'm going

889
00:49:41,830 --> 00:49:48,290
Speaker 1: to give recommendations for musicians who have turned actors. My

890
00:49:48,370 --> 00:49:50,890
Speaker 1: favorite ever, and it's right here on a poster behind

891
00:49:50,930 --> 00:49:53,750
Speaker 1: me on my wall, Jim Jarmusch's Down By Law. This

892
00:49:53,790 --> 00:49:54,830
Speaker 1: is a twofer, okay?

893
00:49:54,910 --> 00:49:55,190
Speaker 4: Okay.

894
00:49:55,230 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Because you get, in Jim Jarmusch's second feature film, Down

895
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: By Law, you get co-starring performances by John Lurie, the

896
00:50:04,780 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: saxophone player from The Lounge Lizards, and Tom Waits. Was

897
00:50:08,780 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: this Tom Waits' first dramatic role? I think it was.

898
00:50:17,330 --> 00:50:19,810
Speaker 4: Outsiders. He's in The Outsiders with Leif Garrett.

899
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:21,490
Speaker 1: Is he really?

900
00:50:21,810 --> 00:50:22,169
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.

901
00:50:22,830 --> 00:50:24,010
Speaker 1: Shit, I haven't seen that in forever.

902
00:50:24,410 --> 00:50:24,670
Speaker 2: He's Tex.

903
00:50:24,690 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: Okay, well, this is his first leading role.

904
00:50:27,180 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: He opens the door when Ralph Macchio and C. Thomas Howell.

905
00:50:31,140 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: Oh, that makes sense because he scored Coppola's One from

906
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:39,260
Speaker 1: the Heart and Coppola made The Outsiders, so that makes sense.

907
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 4: And he plays a bigger role in the book. I

908
00:50:43,180 --> 00:50:46,130
Speaker 4: can't remember if his name's Tex or if I'm confusing

909
00:50:46,170 --> 00:50:49,069
Speaker 4: that with Matt Dillon's early film Tex, which I think

910
00:50:49,090 --> 00:50:51,230
Speaker 4: was also a Zotro production. I could be wrong.

911
00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:52,030
Speaker 2: Oh.

912
00:50:52,090 --> 00:50:56,140
Speaker 4: But he's actually a named character in the film The Outsiders,

913
00:50:56,219 --> 00:50:58,339
Speaker 4: even though he's only in one very short scene.

914
00:50:58,920 --> 00:50:59,060
Speaker 2: Huh.

915
00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:00,899
Speaker 7: Cool.

916
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: All right.

917
00:51:01,260 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 1: Well, anyways, Down by Law, incredible black and white film

918
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: from the mid-80s indie film. John Lurie and Tom Waits'

919
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,299
Speaker 1: characters wind up sharing this jail cell in New Orleans

920
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:16,810
Speaker 1: with Roberto Benigni, the great Italian comedian. There's a great

921
00:51:17,130 --> 00:51:19,350
Speaker 1: ice cream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream

922
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:22,850
Speaker 1: scene inside the jail cell, which is like peak Tom

923
00:51:22,890 --> 00:51:24,950
Speaker 1: Waits at like, you know, the Rain Dogs years, like

924
00:51:25,010 --> 00:51:28,230
Speaker 1: singing about ice cream. It's great. It's just like John

925
00:51:28,270 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: Lurie and Tom Waits are just like. you just watch

926
00:51:31,380 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: these dudes. They're so magnetic. And you're like, I just

927
00:51:32,980 --> 00:51:35,609
Speaker 1: want to hang out with these guys. And I'm sure

928
00:51:35,630 --> 00:51:36,910
Speaker 1: like at some point, John Lurie is going to be

929
00:51:36,930 --> 00:51:38,690
Speaker 1: a dick. And I'm sure like Tom Waits is going

930
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:40,910
Speaker 1: to be completely aloof, but I still want to hang

931
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:41,310
Speaker 1: out with them.

932
00:51:41,330 --> 00:51:43,290
Speaker 4: You know? I love that they found each other.

933
00:51:43,950 --> 00:51:44,629
Speaker 1: I do too. Yeah.

934
00:51:44,650 --> 00:51:47,750
Speaker 4: It's very improbable. I guess it's Jim Jarmusch that got

935
00:51:47,770 --> 00:51:48,469
Speaker 4: them together, right?

936
00:51:48,570 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, then they had a falling out because, because

937
00:51:51,660 --> 00:51:56,460
Speaker 1: John Lurie blames Tom Waits for stealing Mark Rebo. Because

938
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: Mark Rebo was in the lounge lizards with John Lurie.

939
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,190
Speaker 1: And John Lurie's all like, Tom Waits stole my fucking

940
00:52:01,210 --> 00:52:01,790
Speaker 1: guitar player.

941
00:52:02,570 --> 00:52:08,750
Speaker 4: Jim Jarmusch, Mark Rebo. Jim Jarmusch and Mark Rebo.

942
00:52:09,150 --> 00:52:11,910
Speaker 1: It's Rebo? Okay, fine. I don't know, man, but that's.

943
00:52:11,770 --> 00:52:14,730
Speaker 4: How I pronounce both those names. Keep pronouncing them how

944
00:52:14,770 --> 00:52:17,350
Speaker 4: you do it. I'm not going to correct. Matt Bowden,

945
00:52:17,390 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 4: this is your key to chime in here with whatever

946
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 4: the fuck the correct.

947
00:52:20,090 --> 00:52:20,859
Speaker 1: Answer is here.

948
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,370
Speaker 4: Because I mispronounce everything and he has to... He has

949
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:27,430
Speaker 4: a thankless job of making sure I don't sound like

950
00:52:27,469 --> 00:52:27,830
Speaker 4: an idiot.

951
00:52:28,030 --> 00:52:30,910
Speaker 1: Yes, that's true. Thank you, Matt. Anyways, Down by Law,

952
00:52:30,930 --> 00:52:34,690
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's streaming on Criterion channel. I know

953
00:52:34,730 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: it's in the Criterion collection. Just a terrific movie. It's another,

954
00:52:39,060 --> 00:52:39,820
Speaker 1: it's a hang movie.

955
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

956
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,780
Speaker 1: And speaking of hang movies, my second pick is also

957
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,930
Speaker 1: a twofer hang movie. And this is a 1971 film

958
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:53,100
Speaker 1: called Tulane Blacktop. with James Taylor and Dennis Wilson from

959
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,060
Speaker 1: the Beach Boys. I don't know that it's a great

960
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: movie per se. It's a great time capsule. It's a

961
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: great piece of like archival material from this era. It's

962
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,460
Speaker 1: Dennis Wilson has got incredible like mutton chops and fucking

963
00:53:06,780 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: great hair. And James Taylor has, you know, like the

964
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: sweater with the, with the, like the kind of the

965
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:16,029
Speaker 1: rolled kind of collar or whatever from the seventies. It's just,

966
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,430
Speaker 1: everyone just looks again, very much like down by law.

967
00:53:19,590 --> 00:53:21,150
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I'll get in a car with these

968
00:53:21,170 --> 00:53:23,290
Speaker 1: guys and fucking drive around for a while. You know

969
00:53:23,310 --> 00:53:25,270
Speaker 1: what I mean? Probably smells really bad in there, but

970
00:53:25,310 --> 00:53:26,370
Speaker 1: it'd be a lot of fun, you know?

971
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:28,410
Speaker 4: You know who else said she'd get in a car

972
00:53:28,430 --> 00:53:30,860
Speaker 4: with those guys and drive around for a while? Squeaky

973
00:53:30,890 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 4: Fromm and Sadie Mae. That's literally what happened. Like Dennis,

974
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 4: Dennis Wilson's driving up the PCH and like picks up

975
00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:41,500
Speaker 4: a couple members of the Manson family. Not sure it

976
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 4: was those two in particular. I think one of them maybe.

977
00:53:43,940 --> 00:53:46,049
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. This is made right in the hangover of

978
00:53:46,090 --> 00:53:46,750
Speaker 1: that whole thing too.

979
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:46,969
Speaker 4: Yeah.

980
00:53:47,530 --> 00:53:47,750
Speaker 1: Yeah.

981
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:48,339
Speaker 2: Yeah.

982
00:53:48,460 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 4: I hear you though. The stills from that movie that

983
00:53:51,219 --> 00:53:55,259
Speaker 4: you occasionally come across on Instagram are just like, oh man,

984
00:53:55,540 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 4: have there ever been a couple of better looking dudes

985
00:53:58,260 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: who have ever been teamed up at the exact right

986
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,980
Speaker 4: time in their history than James Taylor and Dennis Wilson? Now,

987
00:54:05,020 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 4: Dennis Wilson, I believe if he stayed alive and perhaps

988
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,790
Speaker 4: didn't wreck himself with drugs and alcohol would have would

989
00:54:10,810 --> 00:54:14,750
Speaker 4: have grown into a beautiful looking old man.

990
00:54:14,890 --> 00:54:15,109
Speaker 1: Yes.

991
00:54:15,130 --> 00:54:16,850
Speaker 4: And I'm not shitting on James Taylor and the way

992
00:54:16,890 --> 00:54:18,710
Speaker 4: he looks now, but he kind of looks like the

993
00:54:18,770 --> 00:54:21,050
Speaker 4: dude who like plays golf with your dad.

994
00:54:21,070 --> 00:54:21,390
Speaker 2: Yeah.

995
00:54:21,410 --> 00:54:23,419
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Yeah, of course. Whatever, that's

996
00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:25,420
Speaker 4: not a diss. It's just, he doesn't look like the

997
00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:28,259
Speaker 4: most interesting man on the planet. But back then, the

998
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 4: two of them together, you're just like, oh my God,

999
00:54:30,580 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: how fucking good looking can two men be?

1000
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1001
00:54:32,780 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah. And this film definitely

1002
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,250
Speaker 1: cuts against that squeaky clean playing golf with your dad image.

1003
00:54:38,270 --> 00:54:38,690
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

1004
00:54:38,770 --> 00:54:40,819
Speaker 1: That James Taylor is known for, for sure. All right,

1005
00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:44,820
Speaker 1: so that's called Tulane Blacktop. And then for my final pick,

1006
00:54:45,140 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: Jonathan Demme's Rachel Getting Married.

1007
00:54:48,180 --> 00:54:48,990
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah!

1008
00:54:49,090 --> 00:54:55,190
Speaker 1: Which has an incredible performance by Tunde Adebimpe from TV

1009
00:54:55,230 --> 00:54:58,050
Speaker 1: on the Radio. He also put out a fucking great

1010
00:54:58,230 --> 00:55:00,850
Speaker 1: solo record last year on Sub Pop. It was really,

1011
00:55:00,870 --> 00:55:01,250
Speaker 1: really good.

1012
00:55:01,489 --> 00:55:02,890
Speaker 4: He's so good. He's so good.

1013
00:55:02,910 --> 00:55:03,310
Speaker 1: He's great.

1014
00:55:03,590 --> 00:55:05,049
Speaker 4: And one of the coolest guys on rock and roll

1015
00:55:05,070 --> 00:55:06,710
Speaker 4: that I've ever met is that dude.

1016
00:55:06,730 --> 00:55:07,910
Speaker 1: Oh, really? Oh, my God.

1017
00:55:08,050 --> 00:55:09,009
Speaker 4: Yeah, just the best.

1018
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:09,730
Speaker 1: That makes me happy, yeah.

1019
00:55:09,810 --> 00:55:09,969
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1020
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:12,950
Speaker 1: He's acted a bunch since I think he had acted

1021
00:55:12,969 --> 00:55:14,930
Speaker 1: a little bit before, but this was the first time

1022
00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:17,770
Speaker 1: I remember seeing this being like, Oh dude, it's the

1023
00:55:17,790 --> 00:55:20,089
Speaker 1: guy from TV on the radio. Uh, who's in this

1024
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,089
Speaker 1: movie and he's, he's so great in this. He's playing the,

1025
00:55:23,300 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: the groom. There's this incredible scene. Uh, he's like loading

1026
00:55:27,660 --> 00:55:30,859
Speaker 1: the dishwasher with the dad and like, all this like

1027
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,420
Speaker 1: past trauma comes up during the, it's just a, it's

1028
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,700
Speaker 1: a really, you and I have talked about this movie

1029
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: as well. We got to cover it on this film

1030
00:55:37,660 --> 00:55:39,540
Speaker 1: should be played loud at some point because.

1031
00:55:39,460 --> 00:55:41,860
Speaker 4: This movie was the impetus for me wanting to do

1032
00:55:41,930 --> 00:55:42,870
Speaker 4: this film should be played loud.

1033
00:55:42,910 --> 00:55:43,170
Speaker 7: Yes.

1034
00:55:43,450 --> 00:55:46,950
Speaker 1: And it like, it's unlike any film you've ever seen

1035
00:55:47,050 --> 00:55:49,509
Speaker 1: in many ways. And one of the ways is that

1036
00:55:49,550 --> 00:55:54,029
Speaker 1: the soundtrack that's the score is happening live by these

1037
00:55:54,110 --> 00:55:57,610
Speaker 1: musicians who have, these are like musicians who are getting married,

1038
00:55:57,630 --> 00:56:00,510
Speaker 1: like their whole, they're friends and family. They're all musicians

1039
00:56:00,530 --> 00:56:03,109
Speaker 1: who are there. And like the, the, the rehearsal dinner

1040
00:56:03,170 --> 00:56:06,150
Speaker 1: is basically like all these artists who are reading poetry

1041
00:56:06,190 --> 00:56:08,810
Speaker 1: or playing songs or whatever. So you have these musicians

1042
00:56:08,830 --> 00:56:10,989
Speaker 1: like out and outside on the lawn or wherever they

1043
00:56:11,070 --> 00:56:13,230
Speaker 1: are in this room in the house who were just

1044
00:56:13,310 --> 00:56:17,050
Speaker 1: practicing this music right for the wedding. And that's the score.

1045
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:21,470
Speaker 1: And it's just, um, man, that's such an inventive creative

1046
00:56:22,110 --> 00:56:24,850
Speaker 1: movie that has never, there's nothing like it that's come

1047
00:56:24,930 --> 00:56:25,549
Speaker 1: before or since.

1048
00:56:25,989 --> 00:56:32,010
Speaker 4: And Tunday's performance of Neil Young's Harvest Moon in this film,

1049
00:56:32,590 --> 00:56:37,069
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, man. It'll make you cry. It'll

1050
00:56:37,090 --> 00:56:41,610
Speaker 4: make you cry. Yeah, everything you said and then some, man,

1051
00:56:41,810 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 4: it's so good. And he's just, not only is he

1052
00:56:44,780 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 4: so talented, obviously, and charismatic.

1053
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: Yes, very.

1054
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 4: Uniquely charismatic. Have you ever seen TV on the radio live?

1055
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: In person?

1056
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 7: No.

1057
00:56:53,660 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I've, I've seen plenty of clips online, but

1058
00:56:55,540 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: not in person.

1059
00:56:56,620 --> 00:56:58,500
Speaker 4: Oh my God. Oh my God.

1060
00:56:58,620 --> 00:56:58,819
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1061
00:56:58,860 --> 00:57:01,990
Speaker 4: Like just one of the greatest live bands I've ever seen.

1062
00:57:02,250 --> 00:57:05,610
Speaker 4: Like incredible. I saw them at the paradise. I don't

1063
00:57:05,630 --> 00:57:09,270
Speaker 4: know what year it was, but his presence in particular,

1064
00:57:09,650 --> 00:57:13,529
Speaker 4: it's a very hardcore presence. It's a very kind of like, like, like,

1065
00:57:13,550 --> 00:57:15,250
Speaker 4: you know, he's not doing backflips and shit, but it's

1066
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:16,510
Speaker 4: very HR bad brains.

1067
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:17,140
Speaker 1: Yep.

1068
00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:22,140
Speaker 4: And just somehow that I shouldn't say somehow, that translates

1069
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,940
Speaker 4: to film in a really incredibly compelling way. And in

1070
00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 4: this film, it's just, you can't take your eyes off

1071
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,580
Speaker 4: this guy. And he's, he's not a main character, but

1072
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:33,780
Speaker 4: he's part of the main plot. You know what I mean?

1073
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 4: But you just want more of them, you know?

1074
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:36,820
Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. Incredible performance. Incredible movie. That's Rachel getting married.

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Speaker 1: And those are my picks, man. My dirty wrecks.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go back and watch Rachel getting married.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to lobby hard for this to be one

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Speaker 4: of her, We're going to do a horror film next

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Speaker 4: for October for this film. It should be played loud.

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Speaker 1: Oh, is this?

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Speaker 4: I was going to say Thanksgiving. This isn't a Thanksgiving movie,

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Speaker 4: though it does seem kind of autumnal.

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Speaker 1: It does seem autumnal, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good shit.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in here. I will talk with you soon.

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Speaker 1: Everybody else, I'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 3: Later.

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Speaker 1: All right, gang, there you go. Some dirty wrecks for

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Speaker 1: actors as musicians and musicians as actors. Maybe you've got

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Speaker 1: your own pick for this. Maybe you've got an answer

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Speaker 1: to next week's question of the week, which is as follows.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think of when you think of an

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Speaker 1: actor or an actress who is the glue in an

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00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: ensemble cast? The one who may not be the star,

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Speaker 1: but holds it all together all the same. Call me.

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Speaker 1: Text me. 617- 906-6638. You can email me, disgracelandpod at gmail.com.

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Speaker 1: Or if you're a member of Disgraceland All Access over

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00:59:02,530 --> 00:59:05,470
Speaker 1: on Patreon, just jump into the chat like Harry Nilsson

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Speaker 1: jumping into the fire. What are you guys watching? What

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00:59:09,070 --> 00:59:11,270
Speaker 1: have you watched this week? I watched a ton of

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Speaker 1: stuff this past week. But most notably, I went to

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Speaker 1: the movie theater and I saw Resident Evil. Not because

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Speaker 1: I am a Resident Evil fan. I do play video games.

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Speaker 1: We have a PlayStation and I play mostly with my

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00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:29,770
Speaker 1: son a lot. I'm not a Resident Evil fan. I

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00:59:29,790 --> 00:59:33,300
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever played Resident Evil, and neither am

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Speaker 1: I a fan of movies based on video games. But

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Speaker 1: I saw this film because it's written and directed by

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Speaker 1: Zach Kreger, and I will see anything Zach Kreger makes.

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Speaker 1: He's just got the juice after Barbarian and Weapons, just

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Speaker 1: two incredibly original films that he made over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. And this one Resident Evil comes just

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Speaker 1: one year after Weapons, which seems insane to me, because formally,

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Speaker 1: it's just an incredible achievement. It is visceral filmmaking at

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Speaker 1: its finest. It boasts an equally incredible performance by Austin Abrams,

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Speaker 1: who played the junkie in Weapons. This movie is hilarious.

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Speaker 1: It's disgusting. It's scary as fuck. It's just a total...

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Speaker 1: blast it's like 87 minutes long too like who's making

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Speaker 1: 87 minute long movies in hollywood right now like this

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Speaker 1: is just it seems so punk the everything about this

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01:00:29,590 --> 01:00:32,950
Speaker 1: film just seems so fucking punk it starts and it

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Speaker 1: just doesn't stop right it's got nods to the shining

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Speaker 1: the thing evil dead 2 die hard it was just

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Speaker 1: a blast at the theater and it was really fun

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Speaker 1: to see with a big audience which i'm not always

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Speaker 1: the biggest fan of because you know sometimes people can

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Speaker 1: be annoying as you all know But there was all

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Speaker 1: this audible anxiety going on in the theater that just

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Speaker 1: added to the experience. You know, like, don't go in there.

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Speaker 1: Or like, what are you doing? Or, oh my God,

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Speaker 1: don't open that door. And, you know, at one point

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Speaker 1: my wife even just literally jumped out of her seat

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Speaker 1: and screamed out loud. The loudest I've ever heard anybody

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Speaker 1: scream in a movie theater. And then she was like

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Speaker 1: embarrassed for the next like three minutes. It was hilarious. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: if you can handle the gore and the frights, I

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Speaker 1: recommend you go check it out at the theater because

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Speaker 1: it's just a great ride. Now, you guys don't have

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Speaker 1: to go home, but you can't stay here. I've got

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01:01:24,650 --> 01:01:27,430
Speaker 1: to bounce, but before I split for real, let me

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Speaker 1: remind you guys of a few important things. First of all,

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Speaker 1: number one, right now in your Hollywoodland feed, our episode

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01:01:34,670 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: on Will Smith. Number two, coming at you this Friday,

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01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: we've got a new episode of The Screening Room, and

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Speaker 1: this week I'm talking all about the 1998 Tony Scott film,

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Speaker 1: Enemy of the State. Number three, next week on Monday,

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Speaker 1: we're bringing you our fully scripted and sound design episode

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Speaker 1: on Phil Hartman. Number four, over in our sister's show, Disgraceland,

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Speaker 1: we've got a brand new episode about Bobby Fuller, he

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01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,020
Speaker 1: of I Fought the Law and Let Her Dance fame,

1154
01:02:03,860 --> 01:02:08,010
Speaker 1: in which we ask, how did Bobby Fuller die? Ask

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Speaker 1: four different people, and you'll get four different answers. Wikipedia

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01:02:11,350 --> 01:02:14,150
Speaker 1: will tell you that Bobby's death was an accident. The

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01:02:14,310 --> 01:02:18,110
Speaker 1: LAPD will tell you Bobby committed suicide. YouTube will tell

1158
01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:21,710
Speaker 1: you a lot of things with big, dumb, sensationalized thumbnails,

1159
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:24,170
Speaker 1: but in the end, they won't tell you anything at all.

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01:02:24,790 --> 01:02:27,210
Speaker 1: The rock and roll history books, all but one anyway,

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Speaker 1: will tell you that Bobby Fuller's death is an unsolvable mystery.

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01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:35,900
Speaker 1: They are wrong. Bobby Fuller's death is completely solvable, and

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Speaker 1: by the time you finish listening to this episode, you'll

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Speaker 1: know exactly how Bobby Fuller died, who killed him, and why.

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Speaker 1: Check it out on Apple Podcasts. the iHeartRadio app, or

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Number five, this film should

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Speaker 1: be played loud. Our monthly video podcast available exclusively to

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Speaker 1: members of Disgraceland All Access on Patreon. We got a

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Speaker 1: brand new episode on Gross Point Blank coming at you

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Speaker 1: next week. Just go to DisgracelandPod.com for more info and

1171
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Speaker 1: to sign up. And now in honor of this week's episode,

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Speaker 1: here's what America was watching at the movie's In March 2022,

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Speaker 1: the month that Will Smith slapped Chris Rock during the

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Speaker 1: live telecast of the Academy Awards. Number one, The Batman,

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Speaker 1: directed by Matt Reeves. Number two, Uncharted, directed by Ruben Fleischer.

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Speaker 1: Number three, The Lost City, directed by Aaron and Adam Neeson.

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Speaker 1: Number four, Jujutsu Kaisen. Directed by Sung-Hoo Park. Number five, Dog.

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Speaker 1: Directed by Channing Tatum and Reed Carroll. Number six, Spider-Man

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Speaker 1: No Way Home. Directed by John Watts. Number seven, Death

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Speaker 1: in the Night. Quit talking and start mixing.