WEBVTT - Digging into the trenches with Jonah Jackson, Dayo Odeyngbo | Bears, etc. Podcast 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:05.960 Cut open that DJ Moore and zone touchdown touchdown pairs. 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:07.520 I am Jeff Jonia. 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:09.239 Blitz is not don go. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:13.319 What was like playing for Coche? 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:13.680 Goodgo. 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:16.439 I don't want to answer any questions like that pressure 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:30.360 coming is a big trouble. Donmi goes Montest Sweat. 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.479 Bears, et Cetera brought to you by Miller Lighte with 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.400 the voices of the Bears Jeff Joniac and Tom Thayer. 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.320 We dig into the trenches in episode the Bears et 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:38.720 Cetera podcast, and We're brought to you by Miller Light 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:40.760 with Super Bowl winning Bears guard Tom Thayer. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:41.720 I'm Jeff Joniac. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.040 Over the weeks leading up to the start of training camp, 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.080 we visit with some key members of the twenty twenty 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.960 five Bears. In this podcast, we go over a pair 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:53.800 of newcomers, right guard Jonah Jackson and defensive lineman Dio Adangbo. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.600 And yes, it all starts in the trenches. 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.400 And no one better to discuss the importance than my 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.520 own brought partner now in his twenty ninth year at 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:06.040 the twenty twenty five season. Mister Tom there, Hey, I'm 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:07.920 going to hit you right out of the gate. Are 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.360 the Bears better on both sides of the line of scrimmage. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:12.000 One hundred percent. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.600 When you look at the talent they brought in because 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.920 you have certain key components to an offensive line in 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.640 the interior the offensive line that Dan Rashar and the 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.640 coaching staff, they're not going to have to teach these 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.880 guys a lot about fundamental football. They know how to 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.320 play the game. They've been playing at their whole life 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.240 at a really high level. They're super successful. So it's 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.600 not like you got to take five guys and start 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:42.480 teaching them the incremental types of details to offensive line play. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.840 You have three experienced guys that you're not going to 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.200 have to spend a lot of time on and they 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.480 can also speed up the learning curve of the guys 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.360 to the outside of them, Darnell right at the right tackle, 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.840 in whomever at left tackle. So offensive line speaking, I 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:01.360 think they're a lot better. And then when we talk 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.640 to a guy like Dio, you're talking about a guy. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.120 That has versatility. 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:12.040 He's not just a one player, one position inside outside 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:16.280 type of guy. He's got explosiveness, length, versatility that he 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.680 can play up and down the line of scrimmage. And 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.760 when you look at the other components on this defensive line. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.959 It gives you a lot more versatility from a coaching 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.560 standpoint when you talk about Dennis Allen and the way 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:32.120 he wants to devise a scheme depending upon the team 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:33.760 and the talent he's playing against. 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.080 I mean, we could address this all day long, but 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:41.000 the two most important acquisitions of the entire offseason from 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.839 my point of view, and it goes beyond just their 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:45.720 talent and what they've accomplished. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.200 And I'm not going out on a big limb here. 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:52.200 It's left guard Joe Toney and it's defensive tackle Grady 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.560 Jarrett because of what they bring to the table from 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.320 a leadership point of view, Hey, I think they are 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:58.959 come foudle me type of guys. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:00.520 Well, I'll put you on our back. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:01.040 Let's go. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.160 These are two guys who are going to do everything 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.079 the right way every day, and I think that is 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.360 a significant addition. Tell me if I'm wrong or if 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.160 I'm missing out on somebody else. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.639 Well, you know, the proof is in the pudding. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.200 That's why they are so sought after in the free 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.520 agent market. You have a couple of guys that have experience, 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.079 but they have experience that make your team better. That 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.079 make your locker room better, They make your weight room better. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.919 The enthusiastic approach that I've got introduced and we've got 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.240 introduced to Grady Jarrett is something that it was expected, 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:37.320 but it's impressive, and so I'm really excited to see 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.240 that how that type of energy level can spill out 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.000 to some really young guys in this football team that 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.440 are still trying to find their path in the NFL. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.040 And then when you talk about a guy like Joe Toney, look, man, 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:50.840 his resume speaks for itself. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.120 He's got all the quality. 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.520 Experience from successful Super Bowl winning teams since he's been 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.200 in the league. And like I said, he can take 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.720 the guy to the left of them because the center 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.960 that they brought in Dollman, he's got experience, but you 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:09.200 could really speed up the learning process of the left tackle. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.880 And you haven't met him yet, have you, Big Joe? 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:12.440 I have no. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.560 I can't wait to hear that count. What do you 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:15.800 want to know from him? Seriously? 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.479 Other than hey, my name's Tom. There, my name's Tom. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.679 That's what you do when you introduce you. My name's Tom. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:22.159 What do you want to know? First thing? 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.520 I would say, how's your uncle Mark doing? Because I 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.000 played with his uncle at Notre Dame, and it's a 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.479 conversation I've always wanted to have with him because his 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.480 uncle was a good football player, and you're talking about 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:36.120 in the early eighties back then. But it's just more of, hey, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.400 how's your body feeling? What you know was a little 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.800 bit behind your decision to leave Kansas City and come 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.760 to Chicago. You know, how has the process been since 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.480 you've been here? This is an impressive facility that you 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.039 get to come in every day and listen. 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Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.440 Ninety six calories and three point two carbs per twelve ounces. 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.040 So Jonah Jackson acquired a trade with the Rams strong 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:29.599 pass protector Since twenty twenty two, allowing only two sacks 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.800 and fifty three pressures and almost one thousand blocking snaps. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.640 Played at Rutgers, played at Ohio State, most importantly played 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:41.159 under Ben Johnson, played offensive and defensive line in college 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.000 as well. I didn't know about that part and made 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.160 the Pro Bowl in twenty one while playing under Johnson, 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.000 and in twenty two didn't allow a single sack on 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.560 four hundred and ninety four pass blocking snaps, just two 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.240 sacks in twenty twenty three before signing a three year 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.840 deal with the Rams, but suffered a fractured scalpul of 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.480 the week two and then was moved out of that 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.000 starting position, so tried to play some center there. Now 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:05.800 he's in the right spot of the right time. Let's 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:10.240 listen in our interview with the newest Chicago Bear offensive lineman, 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.679 right guard Jonah Jackson. From one double J to another 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:18.240 double JJ square Jeff Jonihak and Jonah Jackson. 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:18.640 With T square. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.160 Tom Thayer, you guys have met before, and so I'm 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:25.600 gonna let him carry the conversation. But how thrilling is 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.640 it now that you've been here for a few months 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.280 to be wearing this uniform? 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.760 It's awesome. I was just looking at the pictures of 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.360 the Navy Blue. As an old lineman comes you kind 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:35.080 of keeps you tight. 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:36.360 I like it. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.839 You know, you're not falling out the sides as much. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.600 But it's great, man. I love Chicago so far. It's 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.480 a it's a real football city, and you know, I'm 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:46.480 excited to make it pro out. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.360 What do you remember about the book Bears from your 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.400 time in Detroit? Because this is this is the division 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.679 unlike a lot of others. So what do you remember 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.839 about Soldier Field in the atmosphere? 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.640 I mean, it's it's crazy. I can only imagine being 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.280 the home team there. Being the away team is definitely tough. 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:08.560 It's electric. It's definitely you know, the elements work to 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.000 our advantage out here, and just playing against the Bears. 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.400 I mean, it's such a historical franchise and they always 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.680 have some big, huge linemen. Just the nasty defense, and 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:21.680 you know, we're excited to make this offense go. 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:23.480 You know, you got a young guy to your right, 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.840 you got a guy with a little bit more experience 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.680 to your left. How does that conversation go during the practice, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:34.360 maybe installation in meetings, the you know, the new terminology 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.320 that you're learning. How is that conversation between the two 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:38.000 of them gone. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:39.000 It's been great. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.280 You know, we got a very bright group, very smart group. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:47.000 Hats off to Kyle Dan, Rochhar, Kyle Devan and Zach Cable, 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.120 you know, helping us out, getting us right, and a 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.880 lot of the stuff I've I've known for years now 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.720 because I was with Ben, So I'm able to appear 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.520 teach as well and help those guys out. But I 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.800 mean I'm going I'm learning stuff from young guys, older 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.040 guy and things like that. All collaborate and then you 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.920 know it was old lineman. We all come together. 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.239 So are you interested to see Ben the head coach 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.560 as opposed to the offensive coordinator during the regular season? 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:10.960 Uh? 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.120 Yeah, I mean I think he's the same guy head 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.440 coach coordinator regardless. He was always a huge leader, you know, 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.880 great voice, great play callers. So I'm excited. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.320 Have you been grilled by your teammates on hey, what 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:24.200 is he really like? 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.200 No, I mean he shows you what he's really like. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.720 You know, you good in bet you know he's gonna 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.600 let you know when it's right and when it's wrong. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.520 So he's a straight shooter and We love that about him, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.120 and the guys definitely love and enjoy his presence here. 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:41.240 So that's not like I think the Chicago media, with 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.480 all due respect to the media, they have this image 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:45.160 in their mind. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:49.280 Already at this guy is like tough, tough nails. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.680 He's losing his mind out there. I had to correct 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.560 somebody recently and everybody he wasn't losing his mind. 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:58.240 He just wanted he wants it right. But it is 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.439 he a no nonsense coach? 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:01.720 Yeah, definitely. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.920 You know, when when it's time to lock in, it's 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.240 time to lock in, and when we're outside of the lines, 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.280 you know, he's he's great, very personal. He's not a 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.560 stepfler by any means off the field, but when you 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.240 get on the field, you better do it how we want. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.360 And that's how does it feel too, Because I think 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.760 the symbol of this season, before we even take one 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.640 snap in a regular season game or preseason game, is 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:26.800 the interior three. 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:27.800 The interior three. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.840 That we're brought here is almost like a shield for 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.880 the entire team. It's been something that has been missing 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:40.240 in terms of experience and quality and time on task. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.360 So is that is that a proud thing that you're 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.760 a part of that. I know it's the team game, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.520 but yeah, the interior three are going to set the tone. 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.480 Yeah, definitely. You know it's the tip of the spear. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.040 And you know, kudos to the guys on the edges too. 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:56.800 I mean, people are forgetting about Darnell right, Braxton Jones, Assi, Trapo, Corona, Magaji, 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.319 all those guys. You know, it's it's a collective thing 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.720 we got going. But I'm excited. It's a it's a 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:06.480 bright group, strong group experience, you know, even though we're 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.800 the older guys. Three years is pretty experience in the NFL. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:11.240 And he was a day one starter on the right 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.079 and Brax and I believe yea, yeah, it was a 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.720 year starter as well. So seventeen ready. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:20.520 You know, I'm glad that when Ben got here, the 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:25.240 conversation started with playoff expectations, winning expectations. And I think 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.760 that's important when you have a veteran group of you 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:29.600 guys that have come in here that have had some 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.520 success in the league. Not only can you guys talk 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.360 about it, but it's a message that can filter around 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.200 the locker room that you guys are here to compete. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.840 Year one of Ben Johnson and your start with the 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.000 Bears that it's not a five year project that we'll 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.520 worry about it down the road. This year's the time 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:47.439 to get it started. 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:48.320 Yeah, no doubt. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.480 I mean, I mean every year the goal is to 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.680 win it all. I mean, what else would you be 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.600 doing if you weren't trying to do that. You know, 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:58.400 who goes in and like, let's get three more last year. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.200 You know, let's shut it out, let's go for the 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:06.280 whole thing. But yeah, it's it's it's exciting, and uh, 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:07.920 you know, we're ready to get the ball rolling. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:08.800 Seventy three. 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.599 Is that a Tony Medlin choice or is that a 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.000 Jonah Jackson's choice? 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:14.960 It's a Jonah Jackson choice. 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:15.120 You know. 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:15.680 It's funny. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.040 I always wanted to wear seventy seven. I got to college, 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.439 seventy seven was taken. I tried to get seventy two. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.360 They gave to somebody else, and I went to my locker. 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.320 I've seen seventy three. I'm like, what I am. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.800 I wearing seventy three? What is this number I started 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:30.080 to wearing? 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.160 Like, oh, it's actually it's a nice number, you know, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.360 and then he makes something of it, so I like 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:34.719 it a lot. 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.480 It's up to ten, so you get have a perfect ten. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:38.600 right that way. 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:43.360 So I forgot about this actually, just getting some notes 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.280 together before the season gets going. Here that you went 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.840 to Rutgers first. Yes, so Rutgers to Ohio State. We 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:51.600 obviously know Greg Chiano very well. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:53.680 I used to coach here. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.560 So from Rutgers to Ohio State to Detroit, you already 0:11:58.559 --> 0:11:59.760 traveled a lot in a short period. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.439 Yeah, I'm all over to com Yeah. 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:01.720 Yeah. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.840 How do you feel about that? The good and the 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:04.560 bad of that? I guess. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:05.360 I mean it's awesome. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:10.040 I'd get to, you know, play a kid's game and 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.840 you know, be be around the guys all day. I mean, 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.440 wherever it's I'm happy. I'm especially happy to be here 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.840 in Chicago though, with familiar faces, and uh, I feel 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.720 like my best ball has been played in the Midwest. 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.520 You know, we're just talking to Drew Dollman and then 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.640 you bring it up talking about playing the kids game. 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.080 Case Keenan brought up the same thing a little while ago. 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:33.480 How do you turn the kids game into an adult existence? 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.200 Yeah, I mean, yeah, you definitely it's a it's it's 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.880 a job first, see, because you know, you got you 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.280 got to study, you got to do your homework, You 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:42.920 got to take care of your body. You know, you're 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.400 you're your own business. You got to make sure you're available. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.360 But when you get in between the lines, you know 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.960 it's it's mono. Imno, it's you know, it's a sport 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.760 of alphas. So you like to prove it? 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:55.640 Are you one? 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:56.640 I believe so? 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.800 Of course we'll have to see come Sunday in Monday. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:12:59.520 Yeah, I like it. 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.120 I like it an alpha with a big grin and 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.920 a devilish smile. I love alphas. I feel Hey, listen, 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.040 I talk about this all the time. First of all, 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:10.840 you just can't say you're an alpha. You got to 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.160 prove your alpha to the team, not forget about anybody else. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:18.600 And yeah, I covered twenty seven super Bowls back, you know, 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.120 at one time, and. 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.400 I always you could feel the alphas. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.679 Even in the interview sessions during super Bowl week, And 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.480 I think we have some alphas brewing here and clearly 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.040 you're one of them. And they invested in you, and 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:36.360 that means they love you already? Was that important step 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.920 for you to know that, hey, they didn't just bring 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.600 me here, they now they want me here yeah. 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.080 I mean, yeah, definitely, you know it's that's definitely nice. 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.320 But no, like you said, we got to prove it, 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.000 you know, all of us. And I think we have 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.720 a group of alphas or whatever you want to call it. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.280 But we got a group of competitors, guys ready to 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:54.080 roll and ready to win. 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:55.479 You were a part of a turnaround. 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.920 What's the key Just buying it, you know, buying into 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.439 the culture. Not only that the coach is established, but 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.599 the players established. And I feel like we have a 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.520 good presence of that, great presence of that here. And 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:11.560 you know, it's all about winning. Last year, I mean, 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.199 how many games was here were decided by a point 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.760 or something like that. It's only a matter that you. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.320 That's why I say. I say it all the time. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:22.480 I mean, you're doing the dance. 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:23.840 People. People make fun of me. 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:28.160 I go on to radio, ask every snap matters, every snap. 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.720 It doesn't matter if it's week one, play seventy or 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.720 a week fifteen play. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.280 One, exactly right. You subscribe to this theory. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.440 Without a doubt, without a doubt. I mean, like for 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:43.200 the turnaround of Detroit, before the year we went to 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:48.600 the playoffs, I think we were like or two years 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.240 before the first year Dan Campbell, we were like three 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.240 and fourteen, but like nine of those games we lost 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.600 by a touchdown or a field goal. So it just 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.320 comes down to that. It's not like teams are astronomically 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.720 better than it's just every snap you gotta make sure 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.080 you're on your p's and q's and EXEQ. 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.160 So are you happy with right guard? Oh? 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.920 Yeah, yeah, as long as I'm playing guard, you know, 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:11.160 whatever they. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:11.440 Want to do. 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.360 He's a right well, but I think a guys, you know, 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.360 if you're a left handed guy and you could play 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.280 left guard. If you're a right handed guy, right guard 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:23.640 a little bit more consistent, natural balance and everything definitely well. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.480 Like I said, I started in the league at right guard. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.520 Right yeah, initially I've always had like positional flex like 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.960 side to side and stuff like that, and especially this 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:34.280 past year being able. 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.440 To work a lot of right guard reps. Awesome ability level, 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:37.920 big time. 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:38.760 Looking forward to it. 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:39.040 Thanks. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.200 You appreciated Jonathan something. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:47.440 You know, the personality that emerges from veterans young veterans, Uh, 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.400 you could tell. I think from my perspective, I think 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.680 you'd agree. He really genuinely loves being here. I think 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.280 he feels he's got a new lease onund life. Obviously, 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.600 couldn't play a whole season last year. Was was was 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.000 going to the Rams, thought he was going to have 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.920 a long future there, But now a team, actually one 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.960 of them, they traded for him here. So it's got 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:11.040 to feel exactly how he presented himself right. 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.440 Well, you're back to the position you really want to play, 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.080 your right handed kid, and you're playing right guard. 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:17.240 That adds a lot. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.880 Of the balance and the understanding of how to play 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.600 the position. Then you're back playing with the coach that 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:27.080 you're familiar with and you have a relationship already developed 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:30.480 with him. And then you're coming into the same division 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.560 that you started your career and that you're familiar with 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.840 a lot of the locker rooms, the stadiums, the environments 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.360 that you're going to play in. And then when you 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.920 look at you know his commitment to the game. One 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.840 thing I like that Jonah said, and I keep thinking 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.240 about going back to that interview. We talked about his 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.760 preparation and his readiness and he says, you got to 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.680 be ready because you are your own business. And I've 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.000 never heard it put that way before, but it is 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.400 the truth. Ever single one of those guys, whether you're 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.879 at the top of the list or you're fighting to 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.600 get to the top of the list, whatever you do 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:12.360 to yourself for you to accomplish what you want to accomplish, 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.040 you are your own business. And that's something that's going 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.560 to stick with me. And you talk about a young 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.639 dog teaching an old dog new tricks. That's what he 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:22.720 taught me in that interview. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.720 So you didn't necessarily I mean you did, Let's be honest. 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.440 You built your own house. You built you You built 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:29.960 yourself in. 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:30.520 The weight room. 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:34.120 You had that armor on that you knew you could 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.680 go into any battle and win the day you had 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:38.800 to beat. You weren't going to get beat. You weren't 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.760 going to commit penalties, you weren't going to give up sacks. 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:42.800 You were your own business. But you didn't think of 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:43.880 it that way at the time. 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.600 Never, I never thought about on those terms because I 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.119 had the support of a great weight coach growing up 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.240 here in Francis, Rudy Rudeger. Then I got to meet 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:58.440 the great Clyde Emrick, and so those types of encouragements 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.760 in the building stages of a young guy's career are 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.399 so important because The reason that you have that self 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.400 confidence is because you develop a lot of self confidence 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:10.439 in the weight room and you believe in your safe 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:14.639 and yourself with strength and preparation. But when he said 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:19.280 we are our own business, it's like a guy owning 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.359 his own semi. You are your own business. And that's 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.640 exactly what Jonah taught me in that interview. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.439 Well, yeah, it's something everybody should hear, whatever their career is. 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.960 You are your own business within a business. He had 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.320 another quote not in our interview, but I picked up 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:35.120 doing some research. 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.480 Screw the personal accolades. 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.040 This is Jackson saying it. It's to win it all. 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.560 The Bears are such a historic franchise, they've been there before. 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.119 We're excited to be part of a turnaround. I've been 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.639 a part of a turnaround before. We can definitely do 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.560 it again. So he knows what it means. He also 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:55.280 called himself a glue guy, so they're gonna see my leadership, 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.840 my work ethic, my effort, my strain down in and 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.800 down out. He calls himself the Elmer's glue of the 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:04.640 offensive line. I appreciate that statement as well, and how 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.640 can a personality because I feel he's a personality. He's 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.520 got a good personality carry an offensive line. 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.879 Well, you know, just to reference what all those points 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:18.880 that Jonah was saying. I always used to teach Jay 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.240 Hailgenberg because I tell him that you started making the 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.399 Pro Bowl when I played next to you, and then 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.679 you never made it after I didn't play next to you. 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.600 So it's kind of a I do I say that 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.280 with joking because I have all the respect in the 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.080 world for the type of football player Jay was. But 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.640 when you look listen to what Jonah had to say, 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.160 or you listen to my examples, it is about the 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:43.399 five offensive lineman playing together as one. So it's not 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.120 about the accolades. Hey, I'm I'm so proud of Jimbo 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.160 for being in the Hall of Fame. I think Jay 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.960 should be in the Hall of Fame. I think Jay's 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.880 stretch of Pro Bowls, what Mark Boortz did going from 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.239 a defensive tackle to a Pro Bowl offensive lineman, and 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:03.320 then the accomplishments of a fourteen year career by Keith 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:07.879 van Horn. It's all these accomplishments of all the offensive 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.440 linemen make the offensive line a great offensive line. It's 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.119 nothing just one person is doing. 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.040 Yeah, And I imagine it's hard though at the same 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.560 time because when we talk about accolades, yeah, you want 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.679 to win. You guys won a lot of games, won 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:24.760 Super Bowl, but won a lot of games. So when 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.920 Pro Bowls were earned and handed out, was how did 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:33.879 your unit impact the jealousy factor or you know, the 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:38.840 attention factor because you guys as one, we're one big personality. 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:40.840 You can go to any of those guys and I 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.440 interviewed every one of them sports. He probably less of 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.840 a personality, but he enjoyed. I thought he enjoyed doing interviews. 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.040 Did it ever impact your. 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:50.520 Room at aough? 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:51.359 Never? 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:53.960 You know, because listen, we had a Hall of Famer 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.840 that was standing up with the board, you know, running 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:01.440 the meetings and watching tape and make sure everybody got 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:02.520 coached equally. 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:04.000 And that was Dick Stanfeld. 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:08.199 And then whatever everybody was able to accomplish and this 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.680 it was over. It was always about the success of 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.360 the football team and that was the big picture. 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:14.520 It was never. 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.600 About okay, if you got this make guy made twelve 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.560 Pro Bowls, but you never made it to the play playoffs. 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.800 That's really not the sense of accomplishment you're looking for. 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:27.000 And You've always maintained that even in today's you know NFL, 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:30.320 the guy you know gets the accolades but doesn't get 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:31.840 there in the championship. 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:32.960 You have some. 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:34.200 Issues, you have some questions. 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:34.840 Hey Bears. 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.439 Fan steinhoffls is a proud partner of the Chicago Bears, 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.679 now open in Orland Park. Steineoffles is Chicago dance furniture 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.200 and mattress leader with the largest selection to fit every 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.040 style in budget at his one hundred percent employee owned 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:50.240 shop in storing online at steinhoffels dot com. 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:52.680 One other question about. 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.720 You guys before we move on to the defensive line, What, 0:21:56.400 --> 0:22:02.679 in your opinion was the reason that you guys didn't 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:07.080 miss time, didn't miss practice, didn't miss snaps, didn't miss 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.120 games for such a long period of time. 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.720 It's not just good fortune. It wasn't just luck. I 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:13.920 mean there's no way. 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:18.600 So what is the reason getting our bodies prepared for 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:21.359 the abuse of the game and the offseason in the 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.200 weight room, And this is wasn't something that we are 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.320 just trying to get through workouts. We are trying to 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:28.400 become the strongest possible. 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:29.520 Human beings that we could be. 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:34.680 And it wasn't necessarily over encouragement by Clyde telling us 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:38.840 to do things that could possibly injure us. It was 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:41.800 the approach in the weight room to make sure that 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:45.119 you become the strongest to whatever body type you have, 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.679 and every one of us were different. But you also 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.520 had the challenge of Mike Ditka. He was not a 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:55.120 guy that was gonna, you know, come up to you. 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:56.879 You're not going to go off to him and say, hey, coach, 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:01.359 my leg hurts today. I don't think I can go. Well, 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:03.480 go put your pads on, do what you can do, 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.520 and then hold a bag for the guys that are 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.240 working out there. And we kind of had that all 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:12.080 for one and one for all attitude. If we are all, 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.919 if we're going to practice, man, we're all going to practice. 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:19.920 And so there was times when you know, everybody wasn't 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:22.240 feeling one hundred percent. Jay played a whole year with 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.200 a bad elbow and bad shoulder. Jimbo had played a 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:30.320 season with back issues. You know, you know, just throughout 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:33.280 the course of time, you're committed to what you're committed to. 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.880 In the first preseason game, on the opening kickoff return, 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:40.600 I got hit in the elbow by a ball carrier. 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:42.480 It blew open my elbow. 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:46.080 I got fourteen stitches on that day and never missed 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:46.560 the play. 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.240 What so this is something I didn't know? Yeah, I 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:51.600 thought I knew everything about you. 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.200 Yeah, there's a football card out there, and you can 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:59.240 see my whole left leg is just completely blood drenched. 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:05.440 That it just I got so hard with the helmet 0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:06.080 of the. 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.920 Ball carrier when I was blocking on kickoff return. 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:11.919 Didn't you have pads on your forearms? 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.240 No? 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:20.880 No, that's that's stuffered North Dallas, Flornia in the movies. 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.960 That's right, you didn't. You didn't wear pads on your arm. 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:26.160 Hey, were you mad that you didn't make a Pro Bowl? 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:27.440 In retrospect? 0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:29.560 Did you feel you played pro let Me ask you this, 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:31.600 Do you think you were Pro Bowl worthy at right 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:33.120 guard in any particular? 0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:33.880 I think there. 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:35.960 Listen and I'll give you the honest answer there. I 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.760 think there were a couple of years that I played 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.520 well enough to even be considered. But I also played 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:44.280 in an era that there was some elder statesman at 0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.280 right guard and left guard that you know, sometimes you 0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:50.720 get that call. Honestly, I would rather see Jay make 0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:54.400 the seven Pro Bowls and me make make none instead 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:58.440 of me making one and Jay making four or five. 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:04.760 You know, it's it's a weird huh. Why Because I 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:08.639 admired the way Jay played and where he came from, 0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:12.600 you know, an undrafted free agent punt snapper who turned 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:17.040 into legitimately probably one of the top two centers in 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:20.800 the league when Dwight Stevenson was there from the Miami Dolphins. 0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:25.320 And so I just I'm was happy for what he accomplished. 0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:27.960 It brought to you by PNC Official Bank of the 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.960 Bears and not to the defensive line in Dio Adengbo, 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:36.119 another wonderful person, great interview among the pundits at the time. 0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:40.439 The signing of Dio was listed tom among the best 0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:44.359 value moves in free agency by Pro Football Focus, calling 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.520 him an assending player. He was a second round pick 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:51.320 in twenty twenty one, so his best football probably is 0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.720 ahead of him, and it might be right here with 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:57.600 the Chicago Bears. He got a long term contract. His play, 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.840 His reputation around the league is a guy gets a 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:03.479 lot of pressures and how he projects to fit in 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.000 with a big time pass rusher on the other side 0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.679 of the line of scrimmage like Montese Sweat and whatever 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:13.040 happens on the inside with Jabon Dexter Senior and Grady 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:16.160 Jarrett and the rest of the rotation. I do believe 0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:19.120 the Bears defensive line is better with the additions here. 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.000 But is his best football ahead of him? 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:26.399 Yes, you know, I said, he's got the the athleticism 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.480 to travel up and down the line of scrimmage. So 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.920 no matter what position you're looking to have a little 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:34.119 bit of relief or some extra reps out of he's 0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:37.520 he has the capabilities of playing every position. But he's 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.000 also not expected to come in here as a free 0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.040 agent and be the best defensive lineman they have. He 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.360 wants to be part of a defensive lineman that has 0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.560 some pretty darn good components on it in Montes and 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:53.199 Grady and the development of Dexter and you know some 0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:54.679 of the you know, the other guys. 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:55.960 That they have out there competing. 0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.920 He's just got to be a guy that is arrow 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.560 pointed up. And that's why they brought him in here 0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:03.560 at such a young age. 0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.360 Yeah, he's still a young guy. Let me ask you this. 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:10.200 I know, sacks are sexy. You get fifteen sacks, you're 0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:13.679 going to the Pro Bowl. More than likely you're getting paid. 0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:17.439 But that's a fifteen plays out of a thousand in 0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:21.920 a season. Wouldn't you rather have more pressures that lead 0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:26.479 to disruptive plays a pick? I mean this is something 0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.640 of an exercise that if you sat down and watch 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:32.080 every snap on the amount of pressures. What happened on 0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:36.040 that play with the pressure? Did it mean a negative play? 0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.679 Did it mean an interception? It may not have been 0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.199 a sack, but pressures lead to big plays also or 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.600 disruptive plays. Now sack strip that changes things. A first 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.359 down sack puts you in a whole lot of trouble 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.600 leg a first down penalty, third down sack and crunch time. Obviously, 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:53.679 you want those guys on the field at all times. 0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.119 What's your thought on pressures versus sacks? 0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:00.119 Well, I'm gonna say shame on you for every thing 0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:04.200 he just said, because because I'm more interested in tackles 0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:07.840 for loss than i am sacks in pressures, because you're 0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.520 not going to have the chance to get sacks or 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:14.120 pressures unless you're stopping the run. And when I look 0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:18.119 at his explosiveness in his ability to get into a 0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.720 winning position against offensive line, I'm just joking about what 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:22.359 I said to you. 0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:23.840 I'm just saying that. 0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:25.880 When I look at guys like Grady, if I look 0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.680 at guys like Dio, I look at, you know, hopefully 0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.120 the development of some of these other guys if they 0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.800 can get tackles for loss on first and second down, 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:35.640 and then all of a sudden they put themselves into 0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:40.000 a more aggressible approach by the defensive coordinator or Dennis Allen. 0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.000 I think that's when we're going to be rewarded. 0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:44.680 With the sacks and the pressures that are going to 0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:48.479 result in negative plays. But man, those tackles for loss 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:53.680 that you only throughout the twenty five years that we've 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:58.200 been together, the only bad Douche ums on a tackle 0:28:58.240 --> 0:28:59.200 against the run. 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.560 Don't ever Bod Douche on a sack. 0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.840 Well, it depends, he might, he might really rip him. 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.520 Kyler Gordon on a blitz, I'll give him Bod Douche 0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.600 if it. If it rings a bell, it's got to 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:11.120 ring a bell. 0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:12.120 I don't use it often. 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.200 Then it's gonna be new for twenty twenty five because 0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.320 up unto this point, bad Douche has come from against 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:19.080 a running play. 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.680 When I introduced diout of Tom, which I have to 0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.160 because I can't assume anybody goes back in time. But 0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.240 you know Tom, Tom's on the wall in the offensive 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.600 line and right now at Hallas Hall, that's number one. 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.440 And Hee won a super Bowl, so you have to 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.800 pair it up with a super Bowl winner and the 0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.200 Super Bowl is starting right guard for the Chicago Bears 0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.960 and the Lombardi Trophy as part of his efforts. In 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:44.120 the foyer of Hallas Hall, here's a DIO, a DNGBO. 0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:46.520 You know that trophy in the lobby that you guys 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:50.320 are trying to get Tom obviously with the eighty five 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:54.360 Bears wins that It's it's very hard, it's very hard 0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.160 to get there. But it's why you play the game, 0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.280 right It's it's because of the love of the game. 0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.280 But you have a passion for and that's got to 0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.000 come through when you come in this building now, right absolutely. 0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.360 I mean it's amazing to be able to walk through 0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.840 and see the history and the Hall of Famers and 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.480 then obviously the Lombardi right there in the front. It's 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.880 a lot of motivation, a lot of a lot of 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.120 inspiration uphold the standard. 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.400 You're familiar with the Matthews family of the NFL, right, 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.080 so Tom found this out. 0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:23.120 This is great stuff. 0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:27.440 This is how hard it is. The Matthews have a 0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:31.320 great history, sixty six combined years from the dads, the uncles, 0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:36.200 the brothers of experience and sixty six years of combined experience. 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:39.160 Tom tell them how many Super Bowls they won? One 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.480 one claim Matthews up in Green Bay. That puts it 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:44.719 in perspective a little bit. 0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:46.520 Everybody says, oh, you know, we want our team to 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.280 want to It is hard, and you've experienced it yourself. 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.760 You know, you be on good teams, but it takes 0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.440 a lot of luck, a lot of health, and the 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.320 balls got to bounce your way in addition to being 0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.640 a good football team. So when you start here and 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:02.880 you have that wide open road, do you feel like 0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.000 this is going to be a winning program? 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:06.720 Now? 0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:08.760 Yeah, that's the way I see it. I mean, that's 0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.720 what it's felt like since since I signed, Like everything 0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.080 felt like the you know, the stars have been aligning 0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.200 in the right way, and and I'm excited to get 0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.920 out there. You know, we have a great coaching staff, 0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:25.520 young quarterback, uh, some some great defensive players and and uh, 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.440 it's gonna be an exciting year. So that's that's that's 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.120 the journey we're on to that, Lombardi. 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.320 You know, having a chance to meet you here face 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.960 to face and I looking at your length and knowing 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.040 what an asset that can be on the defensive line, 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.120 and then having a chance to talk to Dennis Allen 0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:41.360 and he talks about how he wants every one of 0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:44.840 his defensive linemen to be explosive against the offensive lineman 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.400 they're playing against. And I see those traits in your 0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.320 highlight tape. Is there is there a specific position, a 0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:55.280 specific spot you like the line up, because it seems 0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:57.160 like you have the length and the template where you 0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.520 could play anywhere up and down the defensive line. What 0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.640 is your spot your choice spot to play? 0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:04.720 I mean I like to line up all over the 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.520 all over the line, like I feel like that's a 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.560 big advantage for me to be able to use my 0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:13.480 speed inside and use my size outside to create mismatches. 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.160 So I mean my favorite position is you know, all 0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:20.120 of them. Just being able to to move around is 0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:24.600 kind of something that is big in my game and 0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.560 that you know, I'm excited to continue to do. 0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.760 You know, you got a guy like Grady and his explosiveness, 0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.080 that's one of the traits that I've always admired about 0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:33.640 him throughout his career. 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:35.200 When you have a guy that's at. 0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:39.360 Explosive playing against playing next to you with your explosiveness, 0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.120 it's got to be difficult as an ex offensive lineman 0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:46.320 to stop both of you guys. So having an asset 0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.520 like that next year has got to be exciting to 0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:49.360 play with. 0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.600 Yeah, I mean it's exciting. I'm fired up for the 0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.480 Holy Line. You know, you obviously got Montest sweat right 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.480 four to four guy coming off the edge, and then 0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.480 like he's mentioned Grady, Uh, you know Vet and uh, 0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:05.040 you know, still extremely explosive and h then you got Decks, 0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.680 you know, in the middle holding a down young guy. 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:11.040 But man like just watching him work and watching his 0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.680 work ethic and his explosiveness and workouts and then seeing 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.720 that translate to Oca's man, I'm excited to play with 0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.560 him as well, and play with you know, the whole 0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:20.480 D line as a unit. 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.600 The interesting thing is, uh, you know, I hear about 0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:27.080 defensive lineman like, Okay, I'm gonna go out there and 0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:29.840 play my thirty five to forty snaps in a rotation, 0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:34.200 but I'm working this right tackle or left tackle and 0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:35.120 I'm setting. 0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:36.200 Them up over the course of the game. 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:41.480 But what you're saying moving around is that then keep 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.320 the everybody on their toes on the offensive line, and 0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:47.479 you can feel like maybe they're just bracing for they 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:48.000 don't know what. 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:52.240 So do you which do you prefer? I like, would 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:52.800 you like to. 0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.880 Get you know, consecutive snapset so you can get a 0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:59.240 guy set up in the fourth quarter when it's crunch 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.000 time and it the games down the line. 0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:03.040 Yeah, I mean there's value to both, and I think, 0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.200 you know, I kind of benefit from both. I do 0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.960 get the opportunity to set up certain guys, you know, 0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.799 unrepeated reps obviously on the edges more just you know, 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.719 playing there primarily on first or second down. So being 0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.200 able to set them up throughout the game on the 0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.239 edge and then move inside on third down and kind 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.720 of be an element of surprise really helps. And then 0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.480 also kind of understanding the guys you're rushing with and 0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.440 what they've been showing the offensive line. Have they been 0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.359 given a lot of power, a lot of speed. Once 0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.120 they're set up, you know, someone else can kind of 0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.560 set them up for you. So understanding like you've been 0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:39.279 bowling them all day, So giving them a different look 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.160 going out there and being to give a different look 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:41.800 is valuable. 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.520 When you get Dennis Allen, he's installing the defense for 0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.879 the first time in front of you, guys. Are they 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.760 asking you to do anything new or is it pretty 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:51.480 much what you've been doing since you've been in the 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.400 NFL just trying to perfect some of the traits you 0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:56.200 have For. 0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.239 The most part, you know, D line plays D line 0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.279 play at the end of the day. The technique and 0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.960 you know, schematically is it is a little different from 0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:08.040 what I've been in, at least in the NFL. In 0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.759 the past. Uh, you know, we were in more of 0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.239 a you know, just line up before and just rush 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.960 for uh. And there's a lot more you know, blissing 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:20.080 and schematic changes that come up come with DA's defense. 0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.600 So I'm excited to be in a defense that's a 0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:26.239 little more on the attack and more aggressive in that 0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.000 in that standpoint, because you know, it creates a lot 0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.000 of uncertainty, especially on the line, when they're seeing different looks, 0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.920 seeing different guys blissing. It kind of makes makes them 0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.360 hesitate for a second. And sometimes that's the difference between 0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:38.399 you know, pressure. 0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.719 Are are the linebackers trying to develop a good relationship 0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:43.799 with you already making sure that you hold off the 0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:44.479 double team. 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.160 Yeah, you know, the linebacker is gonna want to look 0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.680 out for you, uh you know, all week so that 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.799 that you take care of them on Sunday. So but yeah, 0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.720 they're they're definitely excited to play in it and excited 0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:57.239 to have us up front and helping them out. 0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:00.839 Right, everybody's talking about Ben Jonson's intensity and and but 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.680 what about Dennis Allen's he's a former head coach now, 0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.040 so well, I see him go to the huddle every 0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.239 single snap. You know, this is the early stages. I 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.759 can't wait to training camp. But what what's your take 0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:13.759 on on your defensive coordinator? 0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:15.440 And I love the age just in the in the 0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.520 short short time we've been together. I'm a I'm a 0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:21.480 huge fan of the way he approaches the meetings and 0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.759 like his intensity like you said, and the way he 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.960 uh installs his defense like it's it's it's definitely different 0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.319 from a lot of the coordinators I've been around. 0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:32.879 You can you give us an example without giving away 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:33.240 the company. 0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.440 I mean, it's just he's very direct and very deliberate, 0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:41.839 like he's not sugarcoating anything. And you know there's there's 0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.239 there's definitely a no sensitivity. 0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:44.279 Zone like. 0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:46.440 That. 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.320 Tom always says, don't be since. 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.840 Yeah, that's definitely he might not say it's nice to 0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.040 be able to definitely say something along those lines. So 0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:57.279 he's definitely a little a little messed up in the 0:36:57.320 --> 0:36:59.239 head a little bit. But that's what you want out 0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.000 of your defensive cord. You know, you want a bunch 0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:02.799 of guys on the defense that are a little messed up. 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.640 So so, you know, it's been great being with him 0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.440 and just seeing his intensity and the standard that he 0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:12.160 holds everybody to is I'm excited and and it's been 0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:13.640 fun already, but I'm excited. 0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:17.040 To you know, more numbers retired on the Chicago Bears 0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.399 than any other team in the NFL. Did you get 0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.960 the number you wanted? You know, did you have to 0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:23.839 twist Tony Medlin's arm a little bit? 0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:25.680 Or are you happy with what you're wearing? No? 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.239 Actually I did want fifty five, So that was the 0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:31.120 number I wanted. I know, fifty four it's not technically retired, 0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.040 that's what I was wearing before, but I mean it's 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:37.000 basically it's a little off limits understandably rightfully so, but 0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.319 uh actually did want fifty five. I wanted to change 0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.200 numbers already, so it kind of worked out well. 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:46.160 Barefoot in the grass this is what you pull, right, Yeah, 0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.160 you're gonna love the turf a soldier field now they 0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.280 upgraded it to a different barefoot before games? 0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.560 Is this part of your why? 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:55.000 What? 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.520 What's what's the what's the point? 0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:58.600 Well, there is, like you know, there's a lot of 0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:00.920 people talk about grounding and so right, you know, but 0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:03.919 a lot of the fields are turfed, so you don't 0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.440 necessarily get the value out of that. But I think 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:10.040 it's just one is kind of just a little superstition. 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:14.400 And then two, you know, it's just like I guess, 0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.839 like getting my feet at activated, you know, like you've 0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.640 been laying down or taking flights and your feet are 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:24.960 kind of you know, not really reacting as quickly as 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:25.520 you can. 0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.840 Feel the difference, Yeah, I feel. 0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.319 I think So, I think it shows up like in 0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:30.879 your balance and stuff a little bit. 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:34.920 So Well, there's a famous surfer in uh Hawaii, laired Hamilton, 0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.960 and he goes everywhere barefoot because he talks about the 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:41.800 amount of lightning strikes per minute and the planet Earth 0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.120 and it comes up through the ground and then you 0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:45.520 can feel it in your grounding. 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:49.760 So yeah, I mean go bare feet in it feels 0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:51.520 a little different. It feels a little different. 0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:51.799 You know. 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.160 It's it's like, what was the last time you really, 0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.359 you know, went barefoots of grass? Since you're a kid, you. 0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:57.759 Know, right. 0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.480 So I just came back from Hawaii, so I spent 0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:02.120 the last month barefoot. 0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:06.920 Yeah, so we had Ottawa was a pass rusher. He 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:10.400 was here and his routine included so he in pregame 0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:10.959 warm ups. 0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.680 He would take two showers before he got dressed, like. 0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:16.480 You'd go out there. That was his that was his thing. 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.239 You know, everybody's got something. Tom's a big cook and 0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.560 I read uh, I think here in the organization they 0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:26.600 did a little something. You're in You make a good yoki. Yeah, 0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.760 what's the what's the secret to your yoke? 0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.320 I love the secret? 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:35.640 Probably not overworking though, you know, not not uh really 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:36.000 beating it. 0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.040 Up to tighten it up there you go. 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:45.200 So just you know, just uh, just being uh, I guess. 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.360 A little little. You like doing it though, you like 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:48.359 that's part of your fun. 0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.960 Yeah, yeah, I mean I like cooking in general. Like 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.200 last week, I made some I made last week, might 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:56.759 process some shrimp, tacol, stuff like that. 0:39:56.880 --> 0:40:00.200 But I just like cooking. Yeah, I'm with you. I 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:00.840 love to cook. 0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:03.480 You know, started with my mom and it just you know, 0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:07.200 continues today and so you know, it's kind of like 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:09.799 a rewarding. You figure out what you want to eat, 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.239 what's good for you, You make it yourself and you 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:13.879 know it's going to be quality and good. 0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.440 Well, he'll be cooking quarterbacks. Thank you, thank you. I 0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:21.080 love the sparring, the discussion. He brings a lot to 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:22.880 the table. I like the way he thinks. He's a 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.239 he's a young NFL player who has a lot of 0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:28.920 experience obviously playing with the Colts, and I'm excited to 0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:32.800 see and I'm excited to think that that Lombardi Trophy 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.080 resonates with people walking through that for every day to 0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:36.640 the team meeting in the auditorium. 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:37.600 Yes, you know. 0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:41.600 And again, the reason he's with the Bears is because 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:45.879 of the versatility that's needed on the defensive line, components 0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.600 that they're going to have on a on a game 0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:52.359 day roster. But he's also been on a team that's 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.960 gone through a coaching change. He understands the difficulty of 0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:59.200 going through a training camp, that it's going to be 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.759 a little bit more high tempo and the decisions are 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.160 going to be a little bit more difficultly made. So 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.600 I'm glad that he comes in with the experiences he 0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:12.240 has as such a young guy. But like I mentioned, 0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.839 I'm glad that he's coming in here and not necessarily 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:19.320 having to be the top alpha male on this defensive line. 0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.279 You got to be one of them because you're not 0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:24.720 going to have a non alpha on a football team. 0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:28.239 But with Grady and Montees and the other guys, you know, 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:31.879 he's gonna have a lot of guys to live up 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:33.240 to and live off of. 0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.240 Eight sacks in twenty twenty three, three, and twenty twenty 0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:39.799 four despite a career high fourteen games. But here's the consistency. 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.880 He played a career high seven hundred and nineteen snaps 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.600 last season that was number one on the Colts defensive 0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:48.360 line and then grated out in the top half of 0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.960 edge rushers by Pro footbuff Focus so and he got 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.919 after the quarterback with a lot of pressures. Brooklyn born 0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:58.879 raised in Texas, went to Vanderbilt and then drafted by 0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.320 the Colts, and then you pair him up with sweat 0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.040 as we give you good new Chicago United Airlines is 0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.480 getting brand new planes with all the bells and whistles, 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.200 like Bluetooth, conductivity screens at every seat, had room for 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.560 everyone's roller bag. United proud to fly the Chicago Bears 0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:16.600 and you too. I bring up Montes because again, you know, 0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:18.600 was he healthy the whole last year? 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.360 We very touched on that on this show and on 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:21.120 Bears Weekly. 0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.839 Probably not fought through it, but I think he's gonna 0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:27.719 have a big bounce back year in terms of making play. 0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.440 He still led the Bears and pressures last season, and 0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.799 he's been very consistent against the run throughout his career. 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.960 So this is not just a Sea quarterback get quarterback. 0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:39.399 He's gonna he's gonna he's gonna stop the run as well, 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.760 which is what you're talking about just earlier here with Dio. 0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:46.960 So that consistency will be important. But how if one 0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:49.360 of these guys, whether it be the interior or a 0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:51.759 guy like Dio, or a guy like Shamar Turner or 0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:56.160 a guy like Javon Grady, Chris Williams coming in the rotation, 0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.600 Daniel Hardy can take some pressure off Sweat to get 0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.759 some one on ones. Will that be equally as important 0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:03.919 for Dio in the game. 0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:05.600 Yeah, you know. 0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:07.680 I also think it's going to be important for the 0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:13.200 Bears defensive staff to be able to identify the vulnerability 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.759 on the offensive line. So say they go out there 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:19.200 week one and mont Sweat is going against the right 0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:23.000 tackle that's playing against a rookie quarterback that's playing in Chicago, 0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:27.120 and it's a Monday night crowd in Montesa's getting that 0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.759 half step at eighth of a second jump on that 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:33.120 right tackle, and it's computing into pressure and putting in 0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:36.799 a quarterback in an awkward, vulnerable position. So that's what 0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.920 the Bears defensive coaches are going to have to capitalize on. 0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:42.640 But as they get film in the can week in 0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:45.120 and week out, they're going to have to identify the 0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:48.600 vulnerability of the opponent. And then maybe Dio's going to 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:51.560 get that chance week two, Maybe Grady's going to get 0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:54.600 it in week three. Maybe it'll be a combination of 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.319 Dexter and Zach Dickens in week three. 0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:59.879 You know. So it's gonna be a. 0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:05.520 Process of evaluation because of the versatility of the and 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.960 the athleticism of this defensive line that they are going 0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:10.440 to have to take advantage. 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:13.120 Of our aches, pains or injuries keeping you on the sidelines. 0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:15.520 Athletico's movement experts are here to help you turn your 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.520 setbacks into comebacks and create a personalized game plan for 0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:22.720 your recovery with no prescription or referral needed. Athletical physical 0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:26.319 therapy is where your comeback story begins. Athletico proud to 0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:29.800 be the official physical therapy partner of the Chicago Bears. 0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:32.400 Wrap it up with this at the line of scrimmage 0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:34.680 we've discussed. I don't think we're going out on a 0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:37.800 limb saying this. Either left tackle will be the most 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:42.239 impactful study at training camp right from the jump. Who 0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.120 wins that job? How healthy is Braxton Jones? Can he 0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:47.920 start practicing right away after that ankle injury at the 0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:51.440 end of last season and Asi Trpilo and then the 0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:55.000 work of Karanamagaji. That's one story. The other story and 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.440 I'm trying to think of, like where the biggest competitive 0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:00.000 battles will be as you go in with no depth 0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.719 chart to start training camp. I'm gonna say that that 0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:06.120 conglomerate of names I just mentioned on the defensive line 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:09.000 along with you know Andrew Billings in there, and you 0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:12.560 mentioned Zach Pickens and maybe some undrafted guys. The battle 0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.480 for the rotation of the eight or nine guys that 0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:18.839 are be active on game day, would that be you know, 0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:21.560 as you analyze the whole roster, would that be the 0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:24.920 other prime location to have your eyes go to training 0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:26.120 camp to see those battles. 0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.640 Yes, So take this into consideration. No matter what the 0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:33.040 down and distance is on offense, the five offensive linemen, they're. 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:33.760 Going to stay in the game. 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.919 You're not gonna substitute offensive lineman because it's third and eight, 0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:42.799 not the third and three defensive line. You're gonna have 0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:47.200 those substitute opportunities according to like I said, not only 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.240 the vulnerability of your opponent, but what is the exact 0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:54.120 down in distance. Now you see this right tackle is 0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.399 out there looking and then you have a guy that's 0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.560 playing over the top of you, and all of a sudden, 0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:00.760 it's third and long and here comes a fresh Montest 0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:04.759 sweat off the sideline. Or the way they can change 0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:10.040 the talent in how they distributed up front, because you 0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.359 get a guy like Dio how tall he is, then 0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:15.839 you got a guy like Dexter, who's how tall he is. 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:20.759 Those are really two unique types of pieces that you 0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:24.200 can put in place in playing against the eighty five defense. 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:28.040 Steve McMichael was not Dan Hampton. Dan Hampton wasn't ming. 0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:31.960 You're talking about two completely different body structures and when 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:35.480 they would flip flop in the midst of a cadence. 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:39.160 Now this left guard that hasn't played against McMichael is 0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:41.319 trying to think about what do I do against this guy? 0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:44.640 Little shorter, really strong, And then you got a guy 0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:49.440 like Hampton who used his length as a really attackable 0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:52.800 asset when he played no matter who he was playing against. 0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:57.160 So just that whole versatility of this defensive line. I'm 0:46:57.160 --> 0:47:00.600 interested to see during practice who's playing where, what down 0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:02.560 and distance during what period. 0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.520 Because all those guys can't make it. I mean, there's 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:07.719 gonna be some some really good rotational pieces that you know, 0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:10.279 may not make the fifty three. So I think it'll 0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:12.400 be it'll be a good, good, good battle. 0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:15.080 And I think that's exactly what Ryan Poles wants. He 0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:19.000 wants difficult coaching decisions to be made because there's talent 0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:20.160 lining up each play. 0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:23.200 We're brought to you by PNC Official Bank of the Bears. 0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:25.880 That's going to wrap up this week's podcast special. Thanks 0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:28.680 to our guests Jonah Jackson and Die with Angbo four 0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:30.400 time they I'm Jeff jonahak. 0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:31.040 Thanks for listening to everybody. 0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:34.720 Please subscribe now in the Chicago Bears Official app, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, 0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:36.160 or wherever you get your podcasts. 0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:49.600 Bear not Everybody.