WEBVTT - How To Find A Mentor (BA Q&A) 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.479 It's time for it. The b a qa A to 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.000 b a qa what you say? The b a qa 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:14.320 man day, the b a qa with. 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:18.880 Tippin a the b a qa A. We're super excited 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:19.680 because today. 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:23.720 In the ba Qa we have an amazing brown girl guest. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.000 If you listen to her show on Wednesday, you would 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:29.200 know that already. Go back and listen. Her name is 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:30.240 Hala Taha. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.600 She is dubbed the podcast Princess and is the host 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:37.720 of Young and Profiting, the app podcast frequently ranked as 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:42.600 number one in business and entrepreneurship on podcasts across all 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.760 apps right. Halla is also the founder and CEO of 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.680 y app Media, a business podcast network with an award winning 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:55.000 social media and podcast marketing agency for top podcasters, celebrities 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.480 and CEOs. She is well known for her engaged following 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.760 and influence on LinkedIn and Okay. Young and Profiting podcast 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.080 is a top one hundred podcasts globally and howa has 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:12.880 interviewed stars study guests like Matthew Mcconaughean, Alex Hormos, hormosy 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:20.120 Child but we all know Deepoko, Okay, Damon John of 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.760 Seth Garden, and countless others. Her show was recognized as 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.679 a twenty twenty two webbyana Ree and Howa has been 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:31.120 featured in publications like Enterprise Bounder and The New York Times. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:35.440 She is an expert on networking, marketing, social media, personal branding, 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:41.560 side hustles, entrepreneurship, and podcasting. So we welcome Holler to 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.000 the stew Alla. 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.319 Hey, you guys are so much fun, happy to be here. 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.640 So because we have Holland the stew Right Me and Mandy, 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:53.560 we're actually gonna have her help answer some questions from 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:54.280 y'all today. 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:56.840 You want to go first, you wanna go to second. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:01:59.920 I want to go first. I want to go Okay, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:04.000 me me me, me me I Andhala, thank you so 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.200 much for giving us so much of your time. It's 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.680 been amazing listening to you and I fully you know. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.480 If you're listening to the show, run and go follow 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.400 her on LinkedIn and get all of her LinkedIn tips 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.120 and tune into Wednesday show because she drops some gems. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:21.280 But because you are such a savvy entrepreneur and you 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.920 have such a fascinating career journey, I would like to 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.359 start with a career question from listener Ashley, who hit 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.119 us up on ig By the way, you can also 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.680 submit your questions. Hit us up Brown Ambition Podcast on 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.400 the gram, slide into our DMS and you could be 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.400 answered on the show. All right, Ashley says, I am 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:42.000 a teacher on FMLA leave for the year while I 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.280 am home on unpaid leave. Because don't get it twisted 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.119 just because you have the leave in America, it's unpaid. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.400 I'm full time taking care of my newborn. I have 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.240 lots of times on my hand. I have lots of 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.919 time on my hands now, which I'm using to start 0:02:55.960 --> 0:03:00.000 an education consulting business. I want to advertise the business 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.400 to my network, but I haven't told my boss about 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:06.400 my endeavor. What is my obligation legally and morally to 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.880 tell my boss about my new business. I have not 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.120 made any money from it yet, but I wonder if 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.240 that matters, and if so, at what point in my 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.840 business success should I communicate about my side biz with 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.800 my boss. I wonder if telling my boss will make 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.560 them think I'm not committed to my job and make 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.600 them take adverse action against me, even if they can't 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:26.720 legally fire me. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:28.639 Appreciate any advice. 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:34.200 Okay, that's a good one, so I'd say Number one 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:38.320 is check your employee contract. Check your employee contract, see 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:42.760 if there's anything that says that you cannot compete in 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.040 the same space as you're in. Because she said she 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.880 wants to do education consulting and she's a teacher. If 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.160 she told me she's selling shoes, I'd be like, go 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.720 post everyone on social media right now. But because it's 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.680 in a similar space, she has to see if there's 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.920 a compete clause, a noncompete clause, I believe, and she's 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.400 got to make sure that she's allowed to do something 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:03.720 like that in the same niche. 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:04.120 It doesn't. 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.360 It sounds like she still can. It sounds like even 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.520 though it's in education, it's something different. 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:09.640 Would you guys better. 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.600 Be having teachers signed noncomputer way do you pay them? 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:13.080 Please? 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.520 Yeah? I was a teacher for ten years and that 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.039 typically wasn't. I will say there's a little more. Although 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:25.080 teachers are like a professional job, it's not bounded, but 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.720 typically by the same corporate constraints. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:28.600 I agree. 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:30.800 I think there's a big chance that you're allowed to 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:35.000 do whatever sort of second job, side hustle, whatever you 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.719 want to call it. I think you're most likely allowed. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:38.039 Right. 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.679 The other thing I'd say, which I say to anybody 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.400 who asks. There's a lot of people who have this 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:46.679 fear about posting while they're still employed, and I always 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.839 tell them, your social media is an asset that you 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.240 need to invest in, and it's a transferable asset that 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.160 you're allowed to take with you from job to job 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.600 to job to job. So I always tell people, don't 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.679 post about your current job, and don't leverage your current 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:03.800 job on your social media profile. That should be for 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.279 your own business, for your own personal brand. Do not 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.200 let a company tell you that you need to post 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.919 about their stuff on your profile. It should be about you, 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:17.800 your skills, your brand, your business on your profile. And 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:19.560 then that's an asset you take with you from place 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.160 to place, and you just need to set that boundary 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.720 with your employer right that that is your asset. I 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.520 would say it's up to her if she wants to 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.359 let her boss know. Depending on the demeanor of your boss. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.440 If your boss is following you on social media and 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:34.760 you feel like they're actually going to see it, you 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.599 may want to just be like, hey, you know, fully 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.960 focus on my job. This is what I'm doing at 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.800 night and on the weekends. I've prioritized my time in 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.400 these ways, you have nothing to worry about. But you 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.159 know I need to generate more income. As you know 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.440 as a teacher, I make X y Z. I want 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.120 to make this much this year, and this is the 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.760 path towards it while working here. And so I think 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.080 just having like a civil conversation with your boss and 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:57.919 saying like, these are the reasons why, this is how 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.120 I'm going to prioritize work. And then you've got to 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:01.919 show up and do your job well at work so 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:03.000 that there's no issue. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:03.320 Right. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.880 But other than that, I would say, like post on 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:10.000 social media as soon as possible, start building your brand, 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.080 start learning the platforms. It's going to take a year 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.120 or two to get a community that's actually going to 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.240 start buying from you, So it's like you better start 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.640 now and build that up. 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:24.159 That's my advice and focus on I would say easily 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.240 when I talk to people about posting a LinkedIn, they're like, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.560 what do I post? Just if you were getting into 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.919 education consulting, I mean, what kind of advice would you 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.599 give as a consultant, and like, what are the buckets 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.599 of you know, information and guidance that you feel like 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.840 your audience is looking for and then just start talking 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.360 about that. That's going to hopefully, in my mind, especially 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.680 if use the right keywords and target the right people, 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.240 it's going to reach the kind of people who could 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:51.279 become customers. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.359 Yeah, one of the first things I would tell you 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.400 to do is try to find people in your niche 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.159 that are doing a great job on LinkedIn. And I 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:03.039 call these people profiles, so they're either competitors or there 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:06.200 are people who have a following that you want, and 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.359 then you can look at their profiles for inspiration of 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.480 the content that you're going to write. But then even better, 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.760 you can start to proactively invite people who are engaging 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.240 on their content. So anybody who recently liked and commented 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.280 on that lookalike profile, you'd want to invite those people 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.400 to your networks so those people will start seeing your 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.600 content as well and hopefully engage and take viral action. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.320 Yeah, and I wouldn't be so scared because truefully, teachers 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.760 are the queens of second jobs. Like I used to tutor, 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.560 I used to babysit, I used to you know what 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.560 I mean, And like tutoring is not it's I'm so 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:41.800 teaching outside of school and I have not found like teachers, 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:43.400 I feel like are giving a lot of leeway. I 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.280 never know because sometimes you might have a hater ball, 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.040 so the hatter, principal, hater superintendent. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:48.000 You never know. 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.520 But as far as legally and morally, especially the moral part, 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.720 girl like, no, you are always able to make additional 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.400 income for yourself as long as to how it's point, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.880 it's not. It doesn't breach the contract that you have. 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.160 Also to one last thing is maybe is there anybody 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.000 at your school or neighboring school whatever that does some 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.160 teacher has a side job, you know, and just asking, like, 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.080 you know, was there any pushback something I should look 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.520 out for, you know, the secretary or whatever, who who's 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.280 the hater up amongst us? To make sure you just 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:19.680 look out for them, so that way, you know, you 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.640 give them the heads up. So but I'll be other 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.200 than that, it's Ashley. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.200 Right, that's what it works. May actually, girl, go ahead 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:27.120 and get your coin. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.280 I love that you be ambitious. Yeah, take it, take 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.520 it and go to the moon with it. Is how 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.840 I feel. Yes, as being a teacher, there is finite 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.800 access to salary. I'm proud of you. And yes, when 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.840 you have a newborn. It is boring, af, so I'm 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.880 proud of you for taking that time. They don't get 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:49.160 hard until like six months plus. Something falling. All right, Okay, 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.120 let's take a quick breaking break and we'll be right 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.960 back with more b a QA. In this time, it 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.640 is Tiffany's turn to read did you see mentor question? 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.760 We're back? Go ahead, s many no, please, I closed 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:05.160 the tabs. 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:06.000 I couldn't see her. 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:10.199 Face and we are back. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.960 So this question comes from not necessarily from our mail bag, 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.079 but something that I could ask all the time because 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.480 I do mentor, especially young women, especially young women of 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:21.280 color and business. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.080 But people ask me all the time one can you 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:25.040 mentor me? Tiffany? 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.880 And then two, you know, how do I find a mentor? 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.600 And so how I had one? It's like a two 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.800 part question. Do you have any mentors? You don't have 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.200 to name names, but how did you connect with them? 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.640 And how would you suggest that people go out, whether 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.000 it's professionally they have. 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.160 A career or in business they're looking for a mentor. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.040 I do have two mentors. So I have a business 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:50.120 mentor who's Heather Monahan. She's actually my first client, and 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.880 I have a podcast mentor. Who's Jordan Harbinger, Right, So 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.120 I'll give you guys the story of how I got 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.040 Jordan to become my mentor. I basically willed him to 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:04.920 become my mentor. His mentor and mentees have a mutually beneficial, 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:09.160 benefiting relationship. That's the keys to actually add value to 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.240 the person who you want to mentor you, because you 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:15.000 need to essentially be deserving of that mentor. So Jordan Harbinger, 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.600 when I was first starting out podcasting, I was a 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.959 nobody compared to him. So this was let's say three 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.120 years ago, two years into my podcast journey. I was 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.320 like doing really well, climbing up there, but I was 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.120 nowhere near how popular my podcast is now and so on. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.440 Like now me and Jordan literally like rank next to 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.080 each other. Right, But when I was first starting out, 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.040 first thing I did was invite him to my show. 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.000 He said yes, so I got to meet him there, 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.080 and then I kept in touch with him, and I 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.360 remember I would always DM him little tips. I'd be like, hey, 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.840 have you tried promoting your show on castbox? I just 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.320 did it. Here's the information I got, Like, this is 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.480 how much subscribers I got. And I knew he was 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.559 into media buying, so I would give him little tips. 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.160 I'd be like, hey, I just tried player FM, and 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.959 I would just always give him little tips. Then when 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.480 I started getting press, like I got on the cover 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.400 of Podcast magazine and they asked me, like, who's your 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.760 favorite podcaster, I put Jordan Harbinger and head them on 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.760 hand and everybody I wanted as a mentor, and then 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.040 i'd send them a note like, hey, I featured you 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.480 in this article that I was just featured in. I 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.280 hope it gives you some visibility, like here's the article. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:21.360 Right then, I remember Jordan reached out to me about 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.360 like a year into me basically like just sending him tips. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.000 Following up with him, and he was like, hey, Hala, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.760 my producer's sick and I think you're really good at 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.120 this kind of stuff, Like can you help me with 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.080 some new ad copy? And at this point I had 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.040 a social media agency. I would be charging for this 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:37.679 kind of stuff, but of course I didn't charge him. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.520 I was just like, yeah, send it to me, happy 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.800 to help. Then I personally wrote ad copy for him, 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:44.600 sent it back. He's like, this is awesome. I'm going 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.120 to use it. Thank you so much. Let's hop on 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:48.679 a call. Let me see how I can help you. 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.199 All of a sudden, Jordan Harbinger became my mentor, got 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:53.600 added to my Slack channel. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:54.760 We talk every day. 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.240 He taught me so much about how to grow my show. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.960 He taught me so much about how to get advertising, sponsor, 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.000 all the things I didn't know because I basically had 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.400 reached the level I could by googling, and I needed 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.600 an actual expert to ask questions because I was like, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.240 there's so many gaps that I need help with, and 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.040 you're one of the only people I know who knows 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.920 more than me and has been doing this for longer 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.559 than me. And so then he became my mentor, and 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.719 it's like again a mutually beneficial relationship. I help him, 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.600 he helps me, and so on. Heather Mom hands very similar. 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.720 She came on my podcast and then she kept reaching 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.200 out to me that she wanted to be my client. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.920 I kept rejecting her and saying I couldn't help her. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.199 She was my first social media client, and then I 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.800 would take meetings with her on the weekends and try 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:42.520 to teach her how to video edit, teach her how 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.839 to do social media, and help her. She eventually became 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.520 my social media client and she gets it for a 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.120 lot a heavily discounted price, and so I basically just 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.199 do her social for free, and she's like out there 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.040 advocating for me, always giving me advice if I ever 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.480 have a problem. She like, like she's a person that 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.680 I can bounce off of that has been where I 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.160 already want to be and knows how to help navigate 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.280 me or like I don't have like my parents aren't 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.000 in business, Like I don't have anybody else to ask 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.640 these questions too, you know. So it's like I go 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.120 to Heather for that kind of business advice. And again 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.480 it's because I help her on a daily basis, so 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:18.880 she helps me back. 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.400 So if somebody is wanting a mentor, they're listening, they're like, 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:23.880 oh my gosh, I don't know what I bring to 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.760 the table. How can I help someone? Like where can 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:30.520 they start? If they're like I need guidance? But how 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.120 do I show that quote unquote I'm ready for a mentor? 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:33.960 And how do I find that? 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.000 I mean I would start off with interning, for if 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.320 you really have zero skills to help somebody, I would 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.880 start off as an intern and say, like, reach out 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.960 to somebody who you want to be, you want as 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.720 a mentor, and offer that you'll dedicate like a couple 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.439 hours a day or whatever amount of hours per week 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.720 fifteen hours a week in free services as their intern 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.960 and just shadow them and learn from them. I think 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.640 the best way, honestly though, is to offer some sort 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:06.440 of skill or just helpful advice and keeping in touch 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.000 with somebody and being helpful I think goes a long way. 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.760 So again, like even if it was just like sharing 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.439 an article to someone like, hey, like, I know you're 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.160 interested in the next whizzie. I found this and it 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.080 was really interesting, but actually make sure it's interesting, right, 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:24.360 do you enough work where you are deserving of having 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.400 a conversation with that mentor, which means that you might 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.720 need to start with podcasts first, start with reading books. First, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.240 get yourself to a certain level where you feel like 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.560 you have reached the peak of what you could learn 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.080 on your own, and then reach out to an expert 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.320 because you have that foundation, because no expert wants to 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.360 spend time with someone who hasn't done enough. 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:44.960 Work for herself. 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.240 Yes, thank you for making that point. 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.840 Yes, I was literally gonna say the same of the game. 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.840 Yes, because I was talking to a friend of mine, 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:58.040 Ryan Leslie. He's like Grammy Award winning and producer. 0:14:58.120 --> 0:14:59.240 He used to do that. So he did that song 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:03.120 with Cassie like and waiting for you. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:03.920 Remember that well, you know how because you were found 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.080 in the seven. So anyway, Ryan's entrepreneur now and investor 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.160 or whatever. So he did like he did something for 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.320 my mentees. He taught a class for them, and afterwards 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.760 we were chatting and you know, people always ask, oh, 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:17.280 let me know what I can do for you, and 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.760 I was like, actually, Ryan, specific, specific, specific, this is 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:22.840 what I'm this is what I've done thus far. I'm 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.120 shifting the Budgetissa in a different direction, and here's what 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:27.800 I've done thus far over the last year or so. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.280 But there's this one small piece that I can't quite 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:31.920 close the gap because I'm not really sure. But I've 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.000 done all this other work. And he said, first of all, 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.400 let me commend you for asking for a specific thing. 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.800 He said, because typically people will be like, put me on. 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.880 That's like the worst thing you can say, because. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:43.280 What does that mean? 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.480 And also too illustrating that you've done all of this 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.400 work ahead of time. And you're not looking for me 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.680 to run your business, but to close that little gap. 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.320 I think that's the number one thing you can do 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.240 in attracting a mentor is have. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:57.280 Done some work. 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.800 People want to know that they're getting on a moving train. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.440 If I invest in you, that that seat is going 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.400 to grow, not going to pester there because you're not 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.520 going to do anything with it totally. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:10.280 And like, so, for example, we're big podcasters, right If 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.960 an upcoming podcaster reaches out to me and it's like 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.560 I want you to be my mentor, I'll usually say, like, 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.280 you can just shadow me for three months and help me, 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:23.160 and ninety nine percent of the time they don't. 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:23.840 Do it exactly. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.680 And Okay, Like I gave you an opportunity to literally 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.440 work with somebody who probably knows more than ninety nine 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.520 percent of people in the podcasting industry. You would literally 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.640 be able to make so much money off the skills 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.240 that I would teach you in these three months. But 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.440 you didn't want you didn't want to take that time, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.240 Then I don't want to be your mentor, you know 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:44.920 what I mean. So for me, it's like if you 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.080 don't want to basically intern for me, I'm not going 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.600 to mentor you because I just feel like that's the 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.720 level of dedication that i'd want, because I know the 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.720 value that I would give them, right other than like 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.320 you know, joining my mastermind or something where you get 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.000 it in a group. Right, if you want one on 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.480 one coaching, try to entern for the person. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.639 Yeah, also to people just want to put yet they 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.080 want to see that you're willing because I have in 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:12.000 the beginning spend a lot of time hours, two hours, 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:13.800 three hours on the phone, only for the person to 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.679 come back two weeks later. I take my mind. So 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.840 I'm doing this now and I'm like, no, you're going 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:18.160 to do. 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:21.280 You just think to yourself. 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.400 But I'm realizing because there's no skin in the game. Plus, 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:29.440 people don't understand that bigger than me giving you this tip, 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.800 it's like, are you going to be able to Because 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:37.639 if you can't do something as relatively low level, as 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.280 far as as interning for someone, meaning like you don't 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.200 have to run her company or anything like that, but interning, 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.919 then when you actually have the business itself and it 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.560 requires more of you, you're not equipped to do the more. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.800 Because if you can't do the less, it's an indicator 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.119 to your mentor that you actually won't be able to 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.919 see it through anyway, you know. So people want to 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.000 pour into people who they know this is fertile ground 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.359 and this person is going to grow this seed that 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.360 I've given them, versus like, can you do the best 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:04.840 for me? So, yeah, I know that was really great, 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:07.880 MANDI have you do you have any mentors. 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.240 Mandy everyone in the Mandy money Maker community. I stopped 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.959 doing one on one coaching with anyone who's not in 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:18.960 the community, and that has changed my whole I mean, 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.879 my whole reality and then my whole sanity because it 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.679 limits my time. And it also like you have to 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.239 pay to be a Mandy money Maker, you have to 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.760 invest in yourself and in this community. And it's part course, 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.720 but it's also live coaching every couple of weeks. But 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.240 also you get me in a Slack channel all day 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.359