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Speaker 1: My brother told me about this years ago. I finally

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Speaker 1: Thirty one oh four BlackBerry and Melassis was our feedback episode.

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Speaker 1: We got four comments ipir seys. Cigarettes and alcohol are

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Speaker 1: interesting to compare. Alcoholism is extremely dangerous and harming a society,

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Speaker 1: I hope Brends. Drinking is just less cool with young

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Speaker 6: And when you think about it, people say that, But

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Speaker 6: when you start at and drink driving, this person is

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Speaker 6: drinking alcohol. Nope, you didn't consume it, you can't get it,

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Speaker 1: I mean those all kinds of ways that drunk the

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Speaker 1: the next presidential election of the DNC, but an event

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Speaker 1: Noticeable names were Wes Moore, Tim Wallas. The article didn't

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Speaker 1: missed the article because his headline was phrased under Biden's

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Speaker 1: got over to clickbait anger and started reading, look at that,

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Speaker 1: y'all insulting black people and still acknowledging that DNC candidates

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Speaker 1: can we just stop doing the horse race negative press

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Speaker 1: Let's just get right to organizing the party as fast

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Speaker 2: Who is going to win the black vote?

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Speaker 1: Okay, whoever's gonna win in a state that got black

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Speaker 1: people and white people in it, that is the person

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Speaker 7: White people ain't throwing the people vote.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's just, you know, it's unfortunate that it's

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Speaker 1: framed as like Biden is doing this and that the

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Speaker 1: think anyone's gonna say out loud, is that people don't

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Speaker 1: want black folks picking a Democratic nominee. That's it. They

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Speaker 1: And the thing is they always will because South Carolina

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Speaker 1: and the Southern states will always matter. It always will matter,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna want somebody that can carry those states

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Speaker 2: States in the general.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you want North Carolina be a purple

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Speaker 1: state that may go blue, then you have to do that. Georgia,

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Speaker 1: you want to go blue. You need it matters. And

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Speaker 1: then every fucking election night it come down to everybody's

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Speaker 1: him in and hollering and crying and have an anxiety

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Speaker 1: attack waiting on the last couple of districts in Georgia

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Speaker 1: to report. Right, that's how important it is that the

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Speaker 1: southern black vote is united and activated by a candidate.

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Speaker 1: So let's just get that started right away. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: give a fuck if it was Bernie who came down

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Speaker 1: and won it. I really, I'm not like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: a petty person, I'm not a vindictive person.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a fuck it then I'll just lose.

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Speaker 1: If Bernie came down here, started working in the South

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Speaker 1: the primary in South Carolina, then we riding with Bernie.

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Speaker 1: It's not really complicated for me. No, I don't understand

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Speaker 1: should not be that difficult, y'all. Should have we have

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Speaker 1: now twelve years into you should have been down here

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Speaker 6: To do it. No, you know you can't show up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, David Hogg too, get your hats down.

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Speaker 7: There right because now time that matters.

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Speaker 1: I'm not like like I do know a lot of

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Speaker 1: I don't like David Hobg.

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Speaker 2: Fuck them and you know they better.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, I don't like the fact that

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Speaker 1: If they're real, real, if you're serious, just start working

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Speaker 1: with black folks in the South now so you can

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Speaker 1: like you're going on Bill Maher and talking shit about

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. But that just really means the black

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Speaker 6: You right, and you know, and I agree, And those

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Speaker 7: Those those those are the things that waste my time.

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Speaker 6: And you know, it's one of the things where I

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Speaker 6: they don't take the process seriously as much asy quote

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Speaker 7: You don't take the process seriously because you have to.

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Speaker 6: Do the work and understand, you know, it's generational differences.

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Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, you have to

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Speaker 1: If it's not generational matter, it's not even generational differences.

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Speaker 1: Bernie is old, is young. Yeah, it's still the same

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: You know, we gotta go find the white male vote

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Speaker 6: No, it's not, particularly when you know, black people vote

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Speaker 2: He says, I really enjoyed me me. I hope you

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Speaker 1: Mimi Cherry responds on YouTube, thank you for having me

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Speaker 1: on You're welcome no problem. Dark Knam just says winky

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Speaker 2: I love this conversation.

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Speaker 1: I exclusively watch YouTube and never truly listened to podcasts

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Speaker 1: story with the pot and TKG one says, great show,

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Speaker 1: as always, thank you everybody. We appreciate it. We do.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Memi appreciates all these compliments and stuff. You know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of times when we have guests, it can

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Speaker 1: get a little bit dicey because like we'll have a

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Speaker 1: great conversation, people will enjoy the episode, but it's like

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Speaker 1: just by the mere fact that we had a guest,

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Speaker 1: some people will just not leave as many comments. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why, Like maybe they felt like everything was

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Speaker 1: said and I don't need to add anything. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, So sometimes I get a little nervous because

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, man, is anybody gonna like leave a

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Speaker 1: comment and say they enjoyed the guests? Because what if

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Speaker 1: the guests listen to the feedback show and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: no comments on this episode. It's like, damn, maybe people

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Speaker 1: wasn't liking them more or whatever. But yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: like that everybody had nice things to say about me. Me.

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Speaker 2: I agree the Paul was happy. You ever been catfish?

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Speaker 1: Thirty three percent? Yes, sixty seven percent. No, what if

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Speaker 1: y'all being catfish? Y'all don't know it right now, that's

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Speaker 1: a true story. You might have an internet friend that's

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Speaker 1: not a real person. Shit, I might, Uh, episode three

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Speaker 1: six months is no option. We had six comments j

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Speaker 1: Jail Covain right sying.

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Speaker 7: Not the Great Kohen.

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Speaker 1: First of all, condolences on Black Panther the video game

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Speaker 1: not happening. Not every film can inspire a hit video game,

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Speaker 1: let alone several hit video games. No shame in not

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Speaker 1: reaching that multimedia mountaintop. Well, technically, this Black Panther game

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Speaker 1: is not the Black Panther game that we found out about,

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Speaker 1: the one that is, you know, with Captain America in it.

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Speaker 1: So I guess there were two being worked on at

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Speaker 1: the same time, and we will get the second one,

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Speaker 1: not this one. But I didn't even know about this game,

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Speaker 1: so I don't even I haven't seen a clip of

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Speaker 1: it or nothing, so who knows. But yeah, totally understand Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what video game The Dark Knight, which

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Speaker 1: I assume is the movie you're referring to, has, I

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Speaker 1: don't think. I don't know what video game that would

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Speaker 1: have promoted, not that I heard of, So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's something.

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Speaker 1: Different that you can hit me too, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: if there's a specific Dark Night game, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: google it and I'm not finding anything online about it.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. Because I know the Batman Arkham

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Speaker 1: City games aren't based off of it.

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Speaker 2: Arkham Asylum and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Those aren't based off The Dark Knight, so those are

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Speaker 1: just Batman games based off the comic book. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: let's see second on the topic of guests, the race

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Speaker 1: dictator outers. I remember a week I was in Cleveland

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Speaker 1: and all my second day there was a white man

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Speaker 1: who was walking across this bridge with his dick out.

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Speaker 1: Then on the fourth day and the last day on

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Speaker 1: the same bridge, there was a black.

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Speaker 2: Man beating his meat on the same bridge.

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Speaker 1: It's that kind of out racial acceptance that maybe want

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Speaker 1: to be a part of Kileland community community.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And where if you would have found out that white

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Speaker 1: man was Irish and that black man was Haitian, that

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Speaker 1: would have really been You would have been in Cleveland

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Speaker 1: right now. You would have been living there. Lastly, after

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Speaker 1: this episode, I realized if I had a podcast in

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Speaker 1: the nineteen tens, it would have been called the Black

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Speaker 1: Guy Who tents. Yeah, black guy who talented tenths, the

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Speaker 1: black guy who won fifths? Yeah, well yeah, well talent

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Speaker 1: the tens is talented tenths from WB to boys, okay, man,

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Speaker 1: The Black Guy who tenths would have been hilarious. I

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Speaker 1: kind of would have liked to see an old Tommy

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Speaker 1: podcast with some old Tommy Mike's and that old Tommy

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Speaker 1: voice that people used to have. I think the Negro

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Speaker 1: problem can be solved very easily in six steps. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I would I would have I would have tuned in

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Speaker 1: to see that. And now for some cab callaway and

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Speaker 1: that just cut to some jazz.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Apple says, burn it down. People are in reality not

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Speaker 1: serious or mature people. They expect that after you burned

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Speaker 1: everything down, stuff will somehow get built, rebuilt like magic,

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Speaker 1: only better and fairer.

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Speaker 2: But who would be the rebuilder?

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Speaker 1: God? The government that is otherwise not to be trusted,

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Speaker 1: as they say themselves. My favorable answer to that is

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Speaker 1: the people. And I'm always like, you know who elected

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Speaker 1: the fucked up people in the first.

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Speaker 7: Place, the people.

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Speaker 1: I don't see them rebuilding anything, And so it can

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Speaker 1: be that you, it can be that you burned it

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Speaker 1: out down to sit in a burned building for the

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Speaker 1: rest of your life. Me personally not a fan. It's

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Speaker 1: the same with people who think that progress is something

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Speaker 1: that happens authentically, not because people fought for I remember

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Speaker 1: them wondering, how do we still deal with this in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen? Why not?

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Speaker 2: There are always forces in the world that want to

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Speaker 2: go back.

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Speaker 1: If you think progress happens on his own, you stop

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Speaker 1: appreciating it and are always just mad that it's not

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Speaker 1: further along exactly right. And this is a big sticking

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Speaker 1: point for me because I don't think these people will

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Speaker 1: see it this way. But I'm like, you are indoctrinated,

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Speaker 1: and you are foolishly accepting some myths that aren't true,

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Speaker 1: and you need to read more and think more critically

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Speaker 1: about our history and not just the propaganda you were

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Speaker 1: sold because you were so the idea that America is

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Speaker 1: always bending towards justice and fairness.

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Speaker 2: And freedom, that's what you were sold.

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Speaker 1: Those people were saying that and writing those things as

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Speaker 1: they were literally owning other people, raping other people, killing

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Speaker 1: other people. So this idea, this undercurrent of it'll get

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Speaker 1: better because it needs to get better, and it'll progress

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Speaker 1: because that's what America is, is propaganda. When people are

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Speaker 1: running for office, of course they say that they want

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Speaker 1: to win, but that is propaganda. There's no real reason

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Speaker 1: to believe them when they say that. What the things

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Speaker 1: I believe when politicians say is when they're like, we

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Speaker 1: need to fight, we need to do this together. We're

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Speaker 1: truly gonna get this if we do, if we vote.

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Speaker 7: For it, and if people don't want to hear that,

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Speaker 7: And I.

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Speaker 1: Don't like how people mock that. Right, when you hear

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Speaker 1: people that mock Obama for saying, don't boot vote, what

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Speaker 1: are you talking about, He's right, He's one hundred percent right,

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Speaker 1: because you're not gonna get guns to take to the streets.

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Speaker 1: You're not those people. And you do keep acting like

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Speaker 1: it'll just get better because everything just gets better with time,

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Speaker 1: and that is not true. That's not what's been happening.

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Speaker 1: We had, uh, we had slavery, then we had a

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Speaker 1: Civil war. Then we had eight years of reconstruction. Eight

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Speaker 1: just eight, right, So hundreds of years of fucking decades,

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Speaker 1: hundreds of years of slavery, the Civil War, eight years

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Speaker 1: of reconstruction.

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Speaker 10: One hundred years of Jim Crow, one hundred years to

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Speaker 10: the civil rights movement. Like this shit is not a

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Speaker 10: fucking game, and it will go back. It is going back.

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Speaker 10: It is being pulled back.

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Speaker 1: If you're not tugg on, playing tugger war and pulling

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Speaker 1: your side of the rope, you're gonna start going the

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Speaker 1: other direction. That's how it is. There are people who

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Speaker 1: are alive, it is not just happening by happenstance, who

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Speaker 1: are pulling the other direction, and they're not giving up.

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Speaker 1: They're not going home, and they are vigilant. They are

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Speaker 1: waiting as long as it takes. They don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 2: If Roe v.

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Speaker 1: Wade is passed, they will wait forty years, forty years

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Speaker 1: to be in a position to take that right back

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Speaker 1: from women. That is what we are facing, and that's

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Speaker 1: just they're just people are just not prepared to accept

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Speaker 1: that reality. So we end up in these discussions about

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Speaker 1: something something the Democrats as opposed to.

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Speaker 7: Yo.

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Speaker 2: These people really out here, and it's not.

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Speaker 1: And no politician can save us with no there's no

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Speaker 1: message they can give us.

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Speaker 2: We have to do it ourselves.

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Speaker 1: We have to motivate ourselves and stop making excuses for

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Speaker 1: our fellow Americans who are either fucking ignorant, complicit, or

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Speaker 1: just fucking or just fucking. So they think they're being cynical,

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Speaker 1: but what they're actually being is so idealistic and optimistic

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Speaker 1: that they they they've mistaken it for cynicism, this whole

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Speaker 1: like we'll just burn it down and build it again.

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Speaker 2: You've mistaken that for cynicism.

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Speaker 1: You've taken your ignorance and framed it it's some type

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Speaker 1: of moral virtue. But really you're just being lazy and

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Speaker 1: up to and unrealistic, because that's not what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: When you look at what's happening and God's are right now,

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Speaker 1: this is the worst case scenario. This is not the

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Speaker 1: better case scenario. And no there's no optimism or hope

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Speaker 1: on the horizon. There is no well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: maybe the next president will be more forceful.

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Speaker 2: These people won't be here for the next president. That's

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Speaker 2: the reality of it.

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Speaker 1: And we let theory and debate put us in this

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Speaker 1: situation because it's very rhetorical when you're not living in it,

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Speaker 1: when you're just like observing it through an app you're

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Speaker 1: not thinking of like, yo, even if it fucking compromises

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Speaker 1: me morally, whatever the fuck, we need to find a

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Speaker 1: way to stop this, and it won't happen under this

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Speaker 1: next administration. Even if we lie to ourselves and be like, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe if possible, we know it won't and it's never

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Speaker 1: going to happen because it never works out that way

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Speaker 1: in America. We don't have the opposite type of example

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Speaker 1: very often in America where it's like, oh, this conservative

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Speaker 1: person we thought was the worst actually turned out to

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Speaker 1: be really good and liberal and progressive. We don't have that.

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Speaker 1: We really have the other thing more often, which is

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Speaker 1: this person that we thought was progressive got in office,

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Speaker 1: saw how hard it is and was like, shit, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna be able to do all this unless people

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Speaker 1: continue to vote and support me, and guess what, they don't.

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Speaker 7: Agreed, agreed.

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Speaker 6: And it's also, in my opinion, one of those things

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Speaker 6: where I realized for the populace and mass and just

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Speaker 6: people in general, when you ask them to work, everybody

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Speaker 6: finds an excuse not to pick up their tools, whatever

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Speaker 6: their tools are, and do the work. And like you say,

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Speaker 6: the theories, the hypothesis and all that stuff, that stuff

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Speaker 6: is cute because you're in guess what, Normally, when people

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Speaker 6: do that, they're safe. They're in the setting where the

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Speaker 6: shit is not directly impacting them. They're they're they're they're

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Speaker 6: they're somewhere where guns aren't being shooting, their kids aren't

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Speaker 6: being stolen, their children aren't being forced to war. Like

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Speaker 6: it's real easy to make these theories. And I think

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Speaker 6: that's how a lot and this is just my opinion,

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Speaker 6: how a lot of people treated the war over in

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Speaker 6: Gods and all that stuff. They treated it like that

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Speaker 6: over here. This is why they didn't take it seriously.

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Speaker 6: This is why they didn't go out and vote and

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Speaker 6: prevent the things from happening. Because it's one of them

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Speaker 6: things where people go it's got worse y, no shit,

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Speaker 6: we could have told you that, like and and this

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Speaker 6: is why I say, uh, not everybody, but a percentage

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Speaker 6: of those people weren't real because if you was really

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Speaker 6: about that life, you would be like, hey, dog, like,

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Speaker 6: let's get somebody in office that's going to do something.

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Speaker 1: Right, let's see says despite the intro, I every time

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Speaker 1: guess the race goes into sword ratings, I always end

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Speaker 1: up trying to guess the race of the sword criminal. Yeah,

658
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: me too, I hear Sean says. For the fair guy

659
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: was considering Galafrian as Sylvester McCoy, the Seventh Doctor was

660
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: known for stuffing Ferris down the trousers. I don't get

661
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: that Nordy reference. Don't watch Doctor Hill. He says. Money

662
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: is always an option, but that guy probably didn't have

663
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: a lot of it. I know most of the gender

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Speaker 1: wars are set ups, but I'd be on the woman's side.

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Speaker 2: If a guy really took her to Starbucks for a

666
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: first day.

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00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: I can see a meetup at a coffee shop to

668
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: see if the two of you vibe, but not to

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00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: go out to at night. Well, this was during the

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00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: day in the video, so just looked like one of those.

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00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: It looked like the first the thing you described of

672
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: the meet up to check out the vibes. That being said,

673
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: I just don't treat these things like they're serious, so

674
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: who gives a fuck?

675
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: Really?

676
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: Gender Wars is one of my favorite segments because eas

677
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: scenarios are always so crazy. They are they really are.

678
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: But like I said, I'm not gonna fall for the

679
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: less debate what happened shit because I don't trust any

680
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: of these motherfuckers.

681
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 6: No.

682
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: Ms barn says, thank you for highlighting older rappers and

683
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: newer projects. The thing that's been on my mind is

684
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: that I like my older rappers and will support the projects. However,

685
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: as I get older, I now have the expectations that

686
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: my favorite rappers grow and.

687
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: Mature as well.

688
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: For example, I listened to the last ghost Face Killer

689
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: album and for the most part it was good, but

690
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: there was one song talking about sexting females and I

691
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: said to my sir, sir, you sound.

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00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: A little ridiculous at this stage of your life. Where's

693
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: your growth.

694
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Speaker 1: I don't mean you have to rap about getting the

695
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 1: gout or stretching before you go to bed. I'm making

696
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: shure it needs work, but some growths in music style.

697
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: I love Eminem However, we have moved from Slim Shady

698
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: and that was highlighted very well in his last album,

699
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: The Death of Slim Shady.

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00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,479
Speaker 2: FYI Fuel with jig Goes it really does.

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00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: My best example of growth with my rappers has been

702
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: to be The Last Days by Onyx, which was my

703
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: favorite Onyx song that was in nineteen ninety five.

704
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: It captured the feeling at the time.

705
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: However, there's a reloaded version of Last Days with Dead

706
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: Prayers featuring Onyx that highlights growth yet stating fuck the

707
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: system that we are in. Also, don't get me started

708
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: with Noads and It's King Disease trilogy. Elder Statesman nods

709
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: is the best thing out there. He really it really

710
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: is like that King Disease joint is really dope. And yeah,

711
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: it's it's cool, good old man rap, but it's not

712
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: like you're listening to it and feeling like it's corny

713
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: or anything.

714
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: Right AnyWho, I know this comment is long.

715
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: However, this has been on my mind for the last

716
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: couple of months and once she touched on this subject,

717
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: I had to get my keyboard ready. Lol. Thank you, no,

718
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: no problem, and let's see the YouTube comments for money

719
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: is no option, which was episode three one oh six

720
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Speaker 1: shit twelve comments. All right, let's see what y'all we're

721
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: talking about. Dark Namdja says, I was born and raised

722
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: in the South Bronx, but I was sent to North

723
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: Carolina in nineteen seventy two. I'm lucky to I've had

724
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: brothers from the South who helped me navigate that space.

725
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: I volunteered to go to the rok to get out

726
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: of there. Ramsey pH Done says, thank you both for

727
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: providing history lessons and perspectives about Jim Crow and reconstruction.

728
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: You could tell who reads and who does not.

729
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I hate to be one of those people,

730
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: but it's not a joke because reading is really more

731
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: of a catch all. For hey man, people need to

732
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: be more curious about our history. You need to be

733
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more inquisitive. You need to be a

734
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: little bit more research. There's plenty of ways to find

735
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: history that's not necessarily reading a book. So reading is

736
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: more of a catch all. You could watch documentaries, you

737
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: could learn the goat and trying to tell you. Yeah,

738
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of documentaries and audio podcasts have done research.

739
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: I hesitate to say too many things because honestly, once

740
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: you start getting out there to this the YouTube and

741
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: these like unred regulated like tiktoks and all this, right

742
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: that sometimes when people are on point and sometimes they're

743
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: just making content and they're not really fact checked or

744
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: googled or or whatever, they're not there's no backup behind it.

745
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: So you can't just trust any and everything. But there's

746
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: a lot of reputable sources that you can trust, and

747
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: I wish more people would do that because I really

748
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: think a huge, a huge, uh exploit in our current

749
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: media landscape is how uncurious the people with the biggest

750
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: platforms are and how little they retain and how much

751
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: I believe that is actually on purpose.

752
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: Yes, that they are blank slates.

753
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: I think they in addition to maybe being dumbasses, which

754
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: could be possible, I think it serves them to act

755
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: like every time they hear something is a fresh story

756
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: with no new background and no context, because it makes

757
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: the best content. I think that's why Joe Rogan's a

758
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: king of podcasts because if you look at him, he's

759
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: the biggest blank slate. He does. Everything is new to

760
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: him every time he hears it, and he's always quote

761
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: unquote curious about it while retaining almost nothing. And that's

762
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: why it continues to blow up, because he can have

763
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: someone come on there and tell him that Nazis are

764
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: fake and that and that never happened, and the Holocaust

765
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: isn't real, and he can have somebody on that the

766
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: next day that's like from the Holocaust Museum and be like,

767
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: here's all the evidence.

768
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: He'll treat both of those people the same. Big it's

769
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: he says.

770
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: Rod and Carraen most underrated part of the podcasting me

771
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: is Rodd's book Recommendation and History Lessons.

772
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: As a history enthusiast, I can't get enough.

773
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: I like to recommend A Fever in the Heartland to

774
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: you both into the Black autist community. It's about the

775
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: Rods of the Klan in the nineteen twenties, but still

776
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: so relevant today and so on. The girl on the

777
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: other side of the road said, I've read the first.

778
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: Chapter of the book. What a good recommendation.

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00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: All right, I'll type that down, A Fever in the Heartland.

780
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: Let me put that in my show notes in case

781
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: I want to add that to my wish list. And

782
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: the heart man, yeah, and don't forget we have an

783
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: Amazon wishless so if y'all ever want to get us

784
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: a book or something, Kendle books are on there, and

785
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: I'll be reading Kendle. That's what I do.

786
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: He reads a uh.

787
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: The Girl on the Other Side of the Road also

788
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: said that gender War deserved a ten, but I'll give

789
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: it a nine because of the music. They've already told

790
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: me which side to be on. Iz left a bunch

791
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: of heart emojis. Damien says Redman's Muddy Waters album is

792
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: fire bornito on Nita says there are people that don't

793
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: believe Harry Tubman was real. I've heard about this loosely

794
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: on TikTok, but if I'm being honest, I've heard more

795
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: about people correcting those people and being like finding those

796
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: people to be ridiculous, and I've heard about people actually

797
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: believing that Harry Tubman wasn't real. My understanding is even

798
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: the first woman that made the video apologized and said

799
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: like she had misinformation or something. I don't know. I'm

800
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: very dubious of just this type of full minding that

801
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: is happening out here, and I don't know, uh, I

802
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: don't know what is being truly gained from this type

803
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: of ridiculousness. Other than to just see like who's impressionable

804
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: enough or who is going to be triggered enough to

805
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: help these people's likes and comments and views go up?

806
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: Because who really heard that went oh shit every time?

807
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: Wasn't real?

808
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 2: Who really that you respect?

809
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 7: Who with your respect?

810
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: Would you be able to do that too? Like a child?

811
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: Maybe like a children falling for I just I don't

812
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: know what the goal is, but it just seems weird,

813
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: and I try not to give it too much attention

814
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: because I feel like the backlash is more than the

815
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,959
Speaker 1: original thing at this point, right, Like I've only seen

816
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: people mad about people not believing Harry Tubman is real.

817
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: I've not seen anyone who's like, no, but for real,

818
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: she's not real, Like you know what I'm saying, there'sn't

819
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: no podcast as clip, there's no person that you know

820
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: like Van Lathan is not like you know, Harry Thomas

821
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: not real, Like no one of any import would say that.

822
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: I think E forty b legit still hitting.

823
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: Says Thomas, and Jason says, y'all said, y'all were not

824
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: against old rap. We're not against old rappers, but we

825
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: are against these duds. Yo. That burn is all down

826
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: left Uh, that burn it All Down Left is mad annoying,

827
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: say what you want about to burn it all down, right,

828
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: but they at least have a January sixth on that

829
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: burn it All down resume they got.

830
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 6: They got something like we we said it and we

831
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 6: were we were trying to burn it for real.

832
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: Ship if you keeping it real about burn it all

833
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: down right, They got way more than just January sixth.

834
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Speaker 7: They got.

835
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Speaker 2: They got the current iteration all.

836
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 6: Fifty states probably got to burn it all down in

837
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 6: one of them sitting when the city in your state.

838
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: They tried to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer and this recently. Yeah,

839
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: that's that's they were shooting at the FBI, I remember

840
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: under Mayor Garland and shit.

841
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 6: And then yeah, didn' some dude break into what'smen called

842
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 6: the house and attacked her husband.

843
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Uh, they have that burn it

844
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: All Down certification. Yeah, and that's before we get into

845
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: like Wilmington and Rosewood and shit. The burn it All

846
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: Down Left is still studying for the burn It All

847
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: Down exam. Yeah, yeah, it was. Minds you of the

848
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: last episode of Rick and Morty where the people that

849
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: were the rebellion fighting against the Galactic Empire, and they

850
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: just kept having like meetings and fucking objections to like, well, no,

851
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: we should do this, and then no, well hold on,

852
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: we have to do this first, and we can't do

853
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: that because that's on such and such and I'm like,

854
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: that's that's us and the quote unquote these people that

855
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: want to have a left wing revolution in America is

856
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: a lot of like, okay, but we can't do it

857
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: on Tuesday because that's such and such day, and we

858
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: can't do this And what about the people whose children

859
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: that aren't really that it's not their fault that it's

860
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: like whatever, we're not ready. I wish I could let

861
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: it go, but I'm still furious about anyone who didn't

862
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: vote in twenty twenty for anyway. That gender wars is

863
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: pretty good. I will say, in this climate, we can't

864
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: be having too many interracial gender wars. Congress might need

865
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: to step in and regulate those. The white girls sort

866
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: of resemble old girl from Centers, so it was even timely.

867
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Speaker 1: I was also struck by the lack of profanity, but

868
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: that had that was also smart because they wanted better

869
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: box office numbers. I think it worked. Yeah, I didn't

870
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: even notice that. But yeah, though PG thirteen is don't

871
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: don't go out the way to rate it r if

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Speaker 1: you can't, if you can help it, you want to

873
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: get as many views as possible. And the poll was

874
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: coffee first dates, Yes or no. Ninety four percent of

875
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: people said yes, six percent saying no.

876
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 6: That is reasonable first time I meet you, that is

877
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 6: reasonable because guess what, if it's cool, we could just

878
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 6: sit here talking. If it ain't, it's coffee dog. Okay,

879
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 6: I finished my cup, I got to go.

880
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, Karen. I think coffee dates sound

881
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: cool to me.

882
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: I'm not obviously not in these Dayton streets, but sound

883
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: like a cool, like little medium. Especially you just want

884
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: to fill in the vibes of like is are we

885
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: good or not?

886
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

887
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 6: And then you don't have no obligations and not just

888
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 6: funny people are crazy. And it's one of them things

889
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 6: where ay, if somebody, if either party offers to pay,

890
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 6: is not that much. It's not like you're fucking breaking

891
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 6: the bank, or it's not like I pay for mine,

892
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 6: whatever arrangements y'all decide.

893
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: And it's not like sexual pressure, right cause it's like

894
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: a coffee day in the middle of day is not expensed.

895
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: It's like, no, weird, like, and now we have to

896
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: go back to my place, right, I mean you could,

897
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: but it's not like you have It's not like that expectation, right, like.

898
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 2: Oh, and now we must kiss at the end of

899
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: the you know.

900
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, nigga, you bought me an eight dollar lot. Take

901
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 6: get up my face?

902
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: Uh. Episode thirty one oh seven Deflated Jail Covan says

903
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: it's someone who read the Jake Tapper book on Biden

904
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: a few things to defend the book, though I know

905
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: Tappa is revealing himself every day to be more and

906
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: more of a both sides smug dude. I do think

907
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: it's news worthy, important history. Almost everyone only talked to

908
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: them after the election, so there was really no way

909
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: for this book to be written PubL any faster than

910
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: it was.

911
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 2: You know how I feel about Biden and Trump, etc.

912
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: So I still found it eye open it though for me,

913
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: no one seems to credit to Biden's the Democrats' fear

914
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: of looking weak in the face of a resurgent Trump

915
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: as a reason to protect weaknesses. Democrats has always appeared

916
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: to be damned if you do, damned if you don't, Right, Yeah,

917
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: and for the record, you've not heard me say it,

918
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: and you won't hear me say it, even though I

919
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: know it's very popular to say this about this book

920
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: and all these tell our books. I'm not one of

921
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: the why didn't you tell us a long time ago?

922
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is it is literally too late to

923
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: litigate this, yes, and there is nothing to be done,

924
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: meaning whatever you feel should be the consequences for Democrats

925
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: having let's go to the worst case scenario, having let

926
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: Biden stay in office too long knowing he was not

927
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: mentally fit for the office the entire time or at

928
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: some point, because I still don't know the exact timing

929
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: of it, because it feels and maybe I would have

930
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: to read the book, but it feels like the timing

931
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: has to be weird, just because he was competent enough

932
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: to run for president and beat Trump, and then it

933
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: sounds like almost immediately people are like and then he

934
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: just should have he was not fit for office immediately,

935
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: if you believe Jake Tapper and his unnamed anonymous sources.

936
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: So if he is telling the truth, and that's what happened,

937
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: Biden did step down. He just didn't step down the

938
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: first day that whatever was, you know, it was too

939
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: fuck but he stepped down when public confidence was like, bro,

940
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: you need to step down, and then they lost. So

941
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know what are we even gaining from

942
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: this because his mediator has been Tapper being like these

943
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: fucking democrats, right, And I've just found that to be weird.

944
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: I think that's not necessarily meaning the moment and it

945
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: would have been I think just still a way to

946
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: write and promote this book in a way that's like

947
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: more sympathetic and understanding of the tragedy of these circumstances

948
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: and what it led to a not a these fucking democrats.

949
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: Many they dang shit and they said, my son play

950
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: video games and want to be a cop. That's the problem.

951
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: So keep in mind, and I know, you know, for

952
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: what you do, jail, you kind of have to stay

953
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: up on all this shit because you know, literally you're

954
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: making content based off of this, and I think it

955
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: would be a bit of a you know, it would

956
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: be a bad form for you to be like I

957
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: object to this book. I ain't reading It's like you

958
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: should probably read it because what you're doing content based

959
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: off this. But that being said me, book buyer book reader,

960
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm not His promotion of the book is making me

961
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: doubt the premise of the book, right, And I don't

962
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: think that's smart promotion. Like coming off like you're angry

963
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: at the Democrats and you're gonna get them just feels

964
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: like the wrong message because who are you selling the

965
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: book to? Probably Democrats who are in dismay looking for

966
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: some like way forward and for like some explanation of

967
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: how things got here. Well, why would you piss off

968
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: all those voters in that way? Because I know the

969
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: Republicans are not buying this book. They're not like, finally,

970
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,959
Speaker 1: Jake Tapper one of us. He's come to the dark

971
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: side and we can all celebrate this. They'll use him

972
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: for these interviews, but they.

973
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: Don't like media people. They don't trust Jake Tapper anymore.

974
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: They trust anyone else who's not on one American News

975
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: or whatever.

976
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: And they don't need it to be true.

977
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: So they're not like, oh, the proof on March he

978
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: forgot he walked in the closet and got lost there

979
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: it is. We finally have truth and evidence and we

980
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: can share it. They don't give a fuck about that.

981
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: They're like we were saying the man pissed on himself

982
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: in front of everybody, and we photoshop pissed on his

983
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: pants and we don't care that it wasn't true. You

984
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: comment on Trump and Israel. Here to be another dims

985
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: as a single mom gps dad beat dad's level of expectations. Agreed.

986
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: Tapper actually writes briefly that one of the biggest points

987
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: of disagreement between Harris and Biden was on Israel. She

988
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: would have taken a tougher stance on Israel, but was

989
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 1: in a tough spot because you don't want to attack

990
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: your sitting president's foreign policy. I find it so emblematic

991
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: of our current politics that right wing people will portray

992
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: Harris as the most radical left wing politician if it

993
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: can hurt her. But then, on the top of like guys,

994
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: the left wing people assumed that she would maintain the

995
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: most conservative stance just to not vote for her. Yep,

996
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: that's it right there. Everything a nutshell, bro, You publicly

997
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: summed it up. And I think it's so interesting too,

998
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: because and I really don't feel like I was reading

999
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: into this. I thought it was kind of obvious and apparent.

1000
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: He did not feel the same way about Gaza and

1001
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: Israel and Palestine as Biden. But it was obviously bad

1002
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: form and bad strategy to be up there campaigning as

1003
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: if like fuck Biden, He's I'm the new I'm the

1004
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: new sheriff in town. It was like, let me get

1005
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: in office, and I'm going to do what I can

1006
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: to fix this thing.

1007
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: That's what it felt like.

1008
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: Now, maybe she would have got an office and not

1009
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: done those things and we would all be sitting here

1010
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: like fuck. I guess she was just like Boden. But

1011
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: if I don't think you can say certain things out

1012
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: loud in America, you just have to go do them.

1013
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: Every time someone gets close to saying certain things out loud,

1014
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: we see the punishment they received for those things. So

1015
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: you just have to get in office and do them.

1016
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, that didn't happen.

1017
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 7: That's what Republicans do all the time.

1018
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 6: And some of the things they say they're gonna do,

1019
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 6: everybody acts stupid like they can't read between the lines,

1020
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 6: and then ask shocked and surprise when they tell you

1021
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 6: what they gonna do. And then sometimes they don't tell

1022
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 6: you what they're gonna do. They just getting the office

1023
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 6: and they.

1024
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 7: Do the shit.

1025
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: Well, it's just it's like Mary said in the chat,

1026
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: it's like what Obama in gay marriage. There was never

1027
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: a point in time where I honestly thought Obama was

1028
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: against gay marriage.

1029
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 7: Right.

1030
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: And for people, you know, listen, I get it. You're

1031
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: an activist, you're a person who's a private citizen. The

1032
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: consequences are not big for you to say anything that

1033
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: the country won't be in a lurch if people get

1034
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: mad at you cause you're like, I won't gay marriage

1035
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: tonight or whatever. You know what I'm saying. But for

1036
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: a guy running for president, if he loses and he

1037
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: would have been like an ally and a supporter of

1038
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: gay marriage and marriage equality and all this stuff, he's like,

1039
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: I gotta do the math so that I win enough

1040
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: for the percentage of people voting, but also get in

1041
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: a position where I'm passing these laws and I'm making

1042
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: this environment so that when it is time for Marriage

1043
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: Equality Act to pass, I've done all the groundwork and

1044
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: normalized it in a way that won't be controversial. So

1045
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: when we're flying pride flags outside of embassies and shit,

1046
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: I need to make sure that this is a place

1047
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: where that can happen and scaring everybody In twenty in

1048
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven means I'm not president in two

1049
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, right, And that's just the politics of America.

1050
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: That's the game they do have to play, right, And

1051
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: that's the real cynicism I wish people had instead of thinking, no,

1052
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: my centicism is secretly this person hates gay people. That's

1053
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: not really centicism. Cynicism is when you make these calculations

1054
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: of like na, the centicism is you gonna have a

1055
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: lot of these people and get an office in and

1056
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: do what you want to do.

1057
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 7: I have one hundred percent agree.

1058
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 6: And it's one of the things about even Harris when

1059
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 6: she was initially picking her VP, and I'm not trying

1060
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 6: funnybody was throwing up all these names. I was like, hey, y'all,

1061
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 6: ain't nothing of the names gonna work. I get what y'all won't.

1062
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 6: Y'all want this to be some radical thing where we're

1063
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 6: making a point. But also you need to be elected,

1064
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 6: you need to be the entire country.

1065
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's math, it's logistics, but yeah, I get it.

1066
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: It's people wanted to just be like a TV show.

1067
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: You get up there, you say the truth, everyone likes it,

1068
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: and you win, and it's just that's never been America.

1069
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: You know, Abraham Lincoln did not run on and even

1070
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: got into war by saying it's about freeing and slaves. Now,

1071
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: he may maybe that was his motivation, maybe it wasn't. Well,

1072
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: we don't. We can never truly understand what's in his heart.

1073
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: He gets all the credit for freeing and slaves as

1074
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 1: people like to talk about it, But if we're being honest,

1075
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: that's not a thing.

1076
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: He ever said.

1077
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: Nope, So like something like, you can't because he knows

1078
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: if he would have said that, there would have been

1079
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: no Civil war. If you would saying we are doing

1080
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: this to free the black slaves in the South, white

1081
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: people would have been like, and you expect me to

1082
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: go die for that? No, you got to turn it

1083
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: into some other shit. I just says for anyone asking

1084
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: why didn't she leave earlier talking about Cassie and the

1085
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: puff daddy stuff, Uh, what's wrong with you? Seriously, a

1086
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Speaker 1: young woman under a real threat of getting killed as

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Speaker 1: she left. I was never even in a physically abusive relationship,

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00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: but at twenty two I had a terrible boyfriend and

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00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: still had a hard time leaving because of my all

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00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: the relationships work would be for nothing delusion.

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00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you said, and that's not even like.

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00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: An abuse situation. So once you throw some abuse in there,

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00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I've just read this book Grown, not too

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00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: long ago, and I think I mentioned it on the show.

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00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: But it was really good. It was a really good

1096
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: book and really smart book. But it was about a

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00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: young black woman, a real black girl. She was still

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00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: in high school, I think, like seventeen, who is by

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00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: Tiffany D. Jackson. But she meets this like grooming r

1100
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: Kelly like figure. And a big part of the grooming

1101
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: and conditioning was the idea of making someone fall in

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00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: love with you who really had no agency of their

1103
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: own and no experience outside of you, and you know,

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00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: all the stuff that they do that we read about

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00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: isolation and you know, uh the love bombing versus the

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00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, the abuse, and then the big acts of

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00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: like making up and all this stuff. And I love

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00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: that the book put you inside the seventeen year old

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00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: girl's head because she is like I can fix on.

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00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: She is like all the typical things that you know,

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00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: we think that would never happen to my daughter me,

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00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: They would never People's brains are much more easily conditioned

1113
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: than folks want to give credit to you, know, so

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00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: I just think that's the reason the books have the

1115
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: same steps for everybody. Like you can think you different

1116
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: and stronger and better, and maybe you feel that way,

1117
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: and maybe you are. But in general, if that was true,

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00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: we wouldn't need a fucking textbook, and all of them

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00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: had the same steps on This is how an abusive

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Speaker 1: relationship keeps people locked in a cycle of abuse.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they all have this.

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00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 6: They might be different variations, they might use different words,

1123
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 6: but but everybody's like, hey, these are the signs.

1124
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: Yeah right. Ron A Rothfiel says, I was about to vote,

1125
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: but I noticed your trap not getting the Parabi Kuran

1126
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: today the poe was hear me out, Janet Reno, yes

1127
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: or no. Over six years, two of my friends, both

1128
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: men in the thirty eight to forty nine age range,

1129
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: ran away from New York City to states and cities

1130
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: in the Midwest and South to begin afresh. It was

1131
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: almost two years after each one left that they were

1132
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: finally comfortable sharing that they were both in abusive relationships.

1133
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: Both men didn't know each other by the way, up

1134
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,959
Speaker 1: to the point that they had to cut off friends

1135
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: and family. I had met one of the former partners.

1136
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: It was early in relationships, so no alarm bells went off,

1137
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: But for the fact that two younger military veterans changed

1138
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: everything from social media to cell phone. It changed my

1139
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: perspective as up until that I might have sounded like

1140
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: Bill Martin. The pass and seeing the men it happened

1141
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: to and knowing that physical size had nothing to do

1142
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: in that case, as both men were physically fit and

1143
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: bigger than their abusers, showed me that there's layers to

1144
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: domestic abuse. If I don't have a clue, it's okay

1145
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: to be quiet and seek the right info. Oh, by

1146
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: the way, the abuser that I had met once tried

1147
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: to use a clone account on Twitter to trick me

1148
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: into giving her info about the whereabouts on my friend.

1149
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: I slipped at the last second and realized, Oh, she

1150
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: slipped at the last second and realized that she had

1151
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: been to my former place with him. Reply has been

1152
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: pending since then. Imagine me after witnessing that now reverting

1153
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: back to I don't believe Cassie or going to fifty

1154
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: cent route. Nah, shit's too real. Yeah, And I, like

1155
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: I said, I think the shame of it is a

1156
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: big thing that keeps people from sharing. And once you

1157
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: add the genderized ideal of like a man being abused,

1158
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's many, many, many men who are abused

1159
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: in silence like it's like ours. And this is not

1160
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: a thing where I'm trying to blame women and shit,

1161
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: because i think one of the biggest slighter hands that

1162
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: men do these days is they bring up men being

1163
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: abused and how no one cares, and then they flip

1164
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: it completely into like women because it's women's and that's.

1165
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: Not that's patriarchy's fault. And patriarchy is.

1166
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: And will always be something that is designed by and

1167
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: for men. Now, the point is that I'm making and

1168
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: this is one step, just one, it's just one more

1169
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: step further than women. So women could beat men, women

1170
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: can have sex with boys in high school. This isn't

1171
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: about these individual women. Obviously that is wrong. Anytime someone's

1172
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: abusive is always wrong. The point that I'm making is

1173
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: a society that is set up to say you can't

1174
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: abuse a young boy sexually because all young boys want sex,

1175
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: so therefore any sex they get is consensual and okay,

1176
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: and if anything, you pat them on the back and go,

1177
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: look at you, young stud that's a man issue, that's

1178
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: not a woman issue. Men set up a designed to

1179
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: society where we're supposed to not see the humanity in

1180
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: our young boys. They set up a society where the

1181
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: sexual abuse that happens to boys goes unseen, and if

1182
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: it happens in the same sex way, so like a

1183
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: man molesting a boy, we then go, well, don't take

1184
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: that's a shame because now you're gay, something's wrong with you,

1185
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: you're weak, something you know like, so now they don't

1186
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: want to tell us for those reasons. Once again, a

1187
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: patriarchal thing. Does that mean women cannot be complicit and

1188
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: participating in patriarchy? Of course they can. All of us

1189
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: can participate in it. That part is not genderized, meaning

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00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: there are women who think it is weak for a

1191
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: man to cry, But you know where that comes from.

1192
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: A society to set up by men.

1193
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: Who say it's weak for men to cry, and some

1194
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: women buy into it, and something don't I need to

1195
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: make that distinction because anytime someone brings up men being

1196
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: victims of abuse, sexual salt, stuff like that, it needs

1197
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: to be clarified that this is not just because women

1198
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: just as bad as men fuck them That's why you

1199
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: know that we need to make that clear, because most

1200
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: men will not take the time to make that clear,

1201
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: and it will just sound like they're saying and women

1202
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: are just as bad as men. All abuses bad, period,

1203
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: point stop. The society that makes abuse possible is a

1204
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: responsibility we all have to fight against. But is a

1205
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: society that was set up by a bunch of white men.

1206
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: That's in America at least that's how it happens. F

1207
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: why for the guests the right segment, Dairy Queen and girl,

1208
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: Dairy Queen, Grill and Chill, says Pemela, and make are

1209
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: the full service restaurants where they also serve hot food.

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01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 6: Oh okay, so we just been to this regular as

1211
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 6: dairy queen, but.

1212
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: I've had I've seen hot food for sealing dairy Queen.

1213
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever bought any, but I've seen it.

1214
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 7: Okay.

1215
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: I remember that one over by like Cotswold that I'm

1216
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: pretty sure had burgers on the menu and shit not

1217
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: just like what oh it did?

1218
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 6: And confue, I was like, I don't want to funk,

1219
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 6: I want to burgle a houtout foe.

1220
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: Although Sean says they're good I do have it on

1221
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: my list.

1222
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: I was confused.

1223
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 2: I have it on my list of burgers I would

1224
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: like to try.

1225
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: I only know this because my son got a gift

1226
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: certificate from his office for his birthday a year ago.

1227
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna eat there.

1228
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: I tried to get a burger for lunch, but apparently

1229
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: I was at one that just served ice cream. Still

1230
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: have to use it, even he says, I have an

1231
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: actual hear me out the Predator. Yeah, he hunts people

1232
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: for sports. Plus on the plus side, he's a good hunter,

1233
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: so you know, he always had meat on the table.

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01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: He's tall, has a nice body. Sure he's facially challenged,

1235
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: but if he's on your side, he'll be loyal. I mean,

1236
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: just make him keep the helmet on when you have

1237
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: said uh. He will always reward you for a job

1238
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: well done. He's athletic, so he has lots of staminas,

1239
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: so you know what that means. I can't be the

1240
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: only one who was shipping him and Sonnihilatan and Alien

1241
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: versus Predator. I wanted him to kiss so bad. I

1242
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: was shipping him too, But kissing those mandibles, I just

1243
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: can't see how it works. I feel like kiss him

1244
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: and then pinchers just like pinch it to your cheeks

1245
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: and kill you. But I mean, look, I always make

1246
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: the predators. To me, I always thought that was black

1247
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: because they got that hair like driads even he says,

1248
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: I agree with you about checkers and rallies. I've never

1249
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: seen in a good neighborhood. But you know what in

1250
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: the good restaurants and good neighborhoods and have good food. Girl,

1251
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: of course we know Applebee's eating good in the neighborhood.

1252
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: Thank you, She says, Arby's, you can get a good

1253
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: meal without a side that's hot lead. Lives. Don't care

1254
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: who telling because you I think if you do opposite

1255
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: you can get Because I'm not even sure you can

1256
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: get a good meal number one and a.

1257
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: Side of hot lead. I don't even know if you

1258
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: can do that, not get that? So all right?

1259
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: Ten comments on our next on this episode on YouTube,

1260
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: and Nad says, good morning's one twenty eight am. You

1261
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: have become my best friends. Look forward to seeing on YouTube. Man,

1262
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: you really be on it, because that's one twenty am.

1263
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: Is like when the episode is allowed to be on YouTube,

1264
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: I go to bed at night, letting it upload your overnight. Yep,

1265
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: how we I am still full from three one oh

1266
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: six it was heavy. I'm glad. I'm waiting for them

1267
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: to start going into European and Asian nclass on the

1268
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: East and West coast, says dark Namda mcdiala's Golden Arts.

1269
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 2: Guess the right segment was good today.

1270
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 1: Thanks for the last. So that's all of him.

1271
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 2: The girl on the other side of the road say's trumping.

1272
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 2: The Republicans run.

1273
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: On Dei's being unskilled, just for him to be the

1274
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: most unreliable, dysfunctional, underqualified government ever. These people can't even

1275
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: do the minimum. I really can't believe that someone could

1276
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: be this bad.

1277
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: At destroyed the government.

1278
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: The Heritage Foundation provided him with a step by step

1279
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: playing and he's still failing.

1280
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: The worst part is that this will become the.

1281
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: Norm for all future presidents. It will be interesting to

1282
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: see because I still the only hope I have is

1283
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: that it will get so bad that the next president

1284
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: will be a or whatever.

1285
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: That seems to be the way it goes in the past.

1286
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: It's just shit gets so bad only an excellent person

1287
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: can make it work again. But it's sad because it's

1288
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: not like it's gonna make everything magically better, and people

1289
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: will give up on that president within like eight months,

1290
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: like you didn't get everything right away?

1291
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: Fuck?

1292
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: I quit this why I don't vote. Kevin says, y'all

1293
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: are so right about who gets blamed about what happens

1294
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: in this Country's frustrating to see everyone blame them for

1295
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: everything Taco does. People be like, how the damn is

1296
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: just gonna let him deport families or they're letting him

1297
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: destroy the economy. I just don't get it. We are dumb.

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Speaker 6: Populous, yes we are, and we do not know how

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Speaker 6: government works.

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01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: People do not know how the government work.

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Speaker 2: We do not have a king, Like just what happened

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Speaker 2: to I'm.

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01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: Just a Bill? Is that why they getting rid of

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01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: all the public shit? So people won't ever learn from

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01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: songs like that? The kids ain't got no I'm just

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01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: a Bill hip hop remixes these days, Damn. Kochrie Enegro says,

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01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: always good to find you here if I missed the

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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: live show, and Jason says, y'all are so right. It

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01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: was Joe's genocide, then Trump came back, and now it's

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01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: exclusively Israel's genocide. Damn they're too those two they're two Wait,

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01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: there were two stories of fast food workers going off

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01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: of burger critiques. Yeah, so be careful. Honestly, I think

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01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: this is a Subway's fault once they started calling them

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01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: people sandwich artists.

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Speaker 2: These fast food workers ain't here for the disrespect.

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01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 7: Now, sandwich artists.

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01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: If you ask pickles, if you ask pickles, but for pickles,

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01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: but your burger didn't have any.

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01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: That's just creative licensing.

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Speaker 1: Each your art.

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Speaker 7: That's funny.

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Speaker 1: Uh. And then the poe was hear me out Janet

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Speaker 1: Reno seven percent? Yes, ninety three percent. No, now that's

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Speaker 1: to hear me out. See what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Hear me out should not.

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Speaker 1: Have ninety percent. Yes, it should be a very low

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01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 1: percentage of some hardcore freaks. That's like, you know what, Yes,

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01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: Janet Reno can get it.

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01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: That's that's that's some perfect hear me out.

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Speaker 1: And let's go to the last episode, but first a

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01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: little music and then we'll come right back.

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Speaker 11: I turned.

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Speaker 6: You.

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Speaker 1: Oh all right. The last episode of the week, thirty

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Speaker 1: one oh eight, how the dermatology industry is failing people

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01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: of color with Doctor T. A. Paul And we got

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01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: seven comments. So the guest episodes got comments this week. Yay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we love to see it.

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Speaker 2: Literally, it's dope.

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Speaker 1: Runner ro Fel says, another award winning episode right here.

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01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm glad that doctor Ta tackled that loading up of

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01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: so much stuff on the face and that is not

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01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: even necessary when you're in your twenties. As someone trying

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01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: to raise a multi dimensional daughter, I tried to get

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01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: ahead of the game, only to get confused by a

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01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: young sister was barely twenty. On one of her videos

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01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: that had gotten to ten minutes, she was still applying

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01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: different stuff to the face. The face was already glowing

1349
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: more than Adam Warlock, but more stuff kept being at it,

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01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,959
Speaker 1: and I just knew that I would fail this test

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: and unfollowed got me all confused and wondering if I

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01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: was toxic for not supporting a black girl glow. I

1353
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: got my issue separate with the VA handles, but I

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01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: am always worried about the kiddo and trying to give

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01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: her glowing skin because I failed the community if my

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01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: kid isn't at glowing skin. Shaking my head. This was

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01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: such a much needed episode, definitely following Doctor t on

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01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: Ig great work.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, naturally skinned does not glow like you know, and

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01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 6: I didn't even think about it until they said it.

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 6: A lot of that has to do with the light,

1362
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 6: like because a lot of times you watching that glowing

1363
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 6: skin shit, it's normally.

1364
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 7: Through a YouTube video, exactly when you see people in.

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01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 6: Real life and regular ass lighting nobody's skin fucking blinds

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 6: you like a diamond.

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Speaker 7: That's impossible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pamela Ma says, how whoever had the question about

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01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: Vanit kream and body all, I wholeheartedly support the concept.

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Speaker 1: I'm not an influencer, I'm not on social media, nor

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01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: have I been paid for this endorsement. Assuming you're talking

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01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: about lotion and slash cream for the body, I've been

1373
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: s been mixing oil in my hand, combining it with

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: whatever lotion is available for years, sweet almond oil for

1375
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 1: spring summer and grape seed oil for fall winter. Laureni

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01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: Eleven says, enjoyed this episode. Doctor Tia touched on this briefly.

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01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 1: But yes, some medical advice comes without evidence based studies.

1378
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: I did not fully realize this until I was pregnant

1379
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: and learned that, of course they do. They can't do

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01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: controlled experiments trials on pregnant mothers. It will be unethical

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01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: most of us will still follow the doctor's orders because

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01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: they are the experts and can make safe assumptions based

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01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: on what they were the research. But sadly, some people

1384
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: use lack of evidence talking point as a way to

1385
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: spew miss information online. The only part of the discussion

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01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 1: that felt a little awkward for me were her comments

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01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: about people not washing their hair. Obviously understood her basic point. Yes,

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01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: the majority of people do need to wash their hair

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Speaker 1: pretty frequently, but given that we are that minority audience

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01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: of people that do benefit from less frequent watchers, I

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01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: would have been it would have been nice for her

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Speaker 1: to acknowledge that.

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Speaker 7: I want and I read this comment.

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 6: First of all, I want to bring up the point

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01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 6: that we were actually talking about YouTube creators and like

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Speaker 6: like like people online that were saying don't wash your

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01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 6: hair at all, and so that's what kind of she

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01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 6: was commenting on. And even through that statement, she didn't

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01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 6: say don't wash your hair at all, you know what

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01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 6: I'm saying.

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01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 7: So that's what we were saying.

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01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 6: Because the thing about watching a lot of people on YouTube,

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01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 6: a lot of times they just be talking like particularly

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01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 6: like I have natural hair, and so there are things

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01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 6: that I can do with my hair, and I'm watching

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01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 6: the video.

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01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, this video is not for me.

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01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 6: And so talk from a doctor perspective, She's like, hey,

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01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 6: you actually do need to wash your is actually healthy

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01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 6: to wash your hair.

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01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 7: The frequency that varies.

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01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 6: You know, some people may need to wash their hair

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01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 6: more often than others, you know, and even some black

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01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 6: people actually need to wash their hair more often than

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01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 6: we actually do, you know, kind kind of you know,

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01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 6: you know, depends and so, you know, just for.

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01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 7: Healthy, clean, scalping, all that stuff, you know.

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01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 6: But that's what that comment was on, just so you know,

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01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 6: it wasn't like she was just making a blanket statement.

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01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 6: Was actually talking about some of the trends online, and

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01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 6: one of the trends was people not washing their hair

1422
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 6: and people telling people don't wash your hair at all.

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01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: Thank you for clearing that up, Karen.

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01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 1: I've just says with the new American administration and their

1425
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: efforts to end any kind of diversity and even publish

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01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: their own state man that the health sized journals, it

1427
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: will get worse for people of color. They absolutely need

1428
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,520
Speaker 1: to be represented in clinical trials, especially in subjects like dermatology,

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01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: to allow insights for others. Eve says, I've been to

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01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 1: two white dermatologists, but never again. I'm sure they'll find

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: doctors for white skin, but black woman dermatologists I go

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01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: to now is own point and we need more black

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01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: dermatologists in general. I've learned so much by going to

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: someone who understands a complexity of black skin. This is

1435
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: such a great guess and informative show.

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01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 6: I realized I've only seen two dermatologists in my lifetime,

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01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 6: and the one that I go to now she's a

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01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 6: black woman. And I think also from my experience, the

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01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 6: black woman I'm seeing, she's more detailed and she actually

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01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 6: kind of explains more to me and kind of tells me, a,

1441
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 6: this is this, and this affects this, and because you,

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01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 6: like you say, she kind of she specializes in everybody's skin.

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01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 6: But you know what I'm saying, It's like she could

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01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 6: pick up on things and actually diagnose me for something

1445
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 6: that I've been having for a long time. And so

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 6: it's just one of those things where I just, you know,

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01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 6: I appreciate having a dermatologist that cares, you know about

1448
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 6: you and your skin. It actually tries to find, you know,

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01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 6: out about these things and told me, hey, we found

1450
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 6: out that these things you know, affect you more than

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01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 6: others and things like that. And I appreciate any doctor

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 6: regardles of the color of skin to be like, hey,

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01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 6: just like you know this infects African Americans more than

1454
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 6: any other group. Just keep it real versus just having

1455
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 6: you think something's wrong with you. Yeah.

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01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: I had a white dermatologist and I went to a

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01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 1: black dermatologist because the white dermatologists, you know, when I

1458
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: went in there, it was like, oh, the epidermist is

1459
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: next to the epicarious level of the skin. And then

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: I went to the black dermatilogists, it was like, you.

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01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 2: Gotta clean these poor motherfucker God damn bitch, sir.

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01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: So I got a black dermatoloist because I need people

1463
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,440
Speaker 1: talk to me in ways I understand.

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01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 7: I do not believe you.

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01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 2: Better use some of this motherfucker oxy bitch.

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01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 6: I think these are false statements you are making.

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01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: Well, you clearly never had a white dermatologist, so how

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01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 1: would you I have Okay, well they must not, so

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01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: then you didn't find this example. You didn't your white

1470
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: dermitagist wasn't like, oh look at let me check out

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01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: the layer. Did you know the skin is the biggest

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01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 1: organ in the body that you didn't have them say

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01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: that to you. And they walked kind of like the

1474
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: butt was all tight.

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01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 7: No, that did not have and they pull up.

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01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: They pulled up to the to the dermatology building. They

1477
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: be listening to like what's so wild you work?

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01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 3: No?

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01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 2: Okay Society and then.

1480
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 1: When a black person pulled up, they'd be like, what

1481
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: them dollars at? What them dollars at? They pull up

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01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,520
Speaker 1: in their car with the basis.

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01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 6: No, this fantasy world is not real that you are

1484
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 6: making up.

1485
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

1486
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 6: I mean, they might be listening to that music, but

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01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 6: some of the some of these things on that based

1488
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 6: in facts.

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01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: Well that's what I experienced, so you can't take away

1490
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: from my experience.

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01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 2: Tanya says.

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01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: Doctor Paul was such a great guess is so informative. Also,

1493
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: all I can think of is a sign for episode

1494
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: whre Jerry Collins the dormatologist friend doctor pimple Popper b MD,

1495
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: and then so and immediate came up there and thanked

1496
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 1: her for saving his life from skin cancer. Karen, you

1497
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: mentioned being diagnosed with HS. Isn't that the skin condition

1498
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 1: that Serland has has? Thank you for a great episode.

1499
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm not sure, and if it is, it's a

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01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 6: much much more advanced version of what I have.

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01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 1: I think it is. I think it is the same.

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01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 6: Though, Okay l has Yeah, because they have like different

1503
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 6: kind of levels of it, if that makes sense, And

1504
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 6: just hearing Stern Liss to his story, his version is

1505
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 6: more advanced.

1506
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't mean I mean, you know, it's

1507
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: like someone can have uh, you know, different varying.

1508
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 7: Degrees of stuff, yes, kind of thing.

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01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: But I think it is the same thing.

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, I mean I just remember having.

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01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 2: A long ass name and abbreviation man hs.

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01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 7: Yes.

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01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 6: And I don't know if he has to get shots anything,

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01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 6: but I know for me, I had to get you know,

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01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 6: shots for reproduction and things like that.

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01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,480
Speaker 1: He's talked about that. Yeah, he's not to get surgery.

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01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I haven't had Yeah. Yeah, my doctor she

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 6: was saying, like some people get bad with that. They

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01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 6: do they have to have surgery and things to remove it,

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01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 6: and it gets to the point where almost is debilitating,

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01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 6: where they can't move around and things like that, Like

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01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 6: mine has never got to that point.

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01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: Shoe Boody says, the way I sent this episode to

1524
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: the group chat and let them know to hurry up

1525
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: and listen. Doctor t had touched on so many issues

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01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: we are dealing with in a relatable way. We are

1527
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: so bombarded by medical influencers now that it's hard to

1528
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: parse out the good advice from someone just trying to

1529
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: sell us shit. Absolutely great episode, Thank you, and let's

1530
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: see YouTube. We had nine comments on this one as well.

1531
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: YouTube was blowing up this week. Darkknledger left three comments.

1532
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: The skin is the largest organ in the body, covering

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01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: this entire exists external surface. The skin has three layers epidermis, dermis,

1534
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 1: and hydro hydrodermist hypodermist, which have different anatomical structures and functions.

1535
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: See that's what my white dermatologists told me. I remember that.

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01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 1: That's exactly how you said it too, Like the skin

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01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: is the largest organ in the body, covering this in

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01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: external external surface. And I said, oh man, I gotta

1539
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 1: give me a black dermatologist. And he was like, slap

1540
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: me some skin, motherfucker onf and he like slapped me

1541
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: on hand. Doctor Paul to take a look at my dermatitus.

1542
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: Maybe I can save some money or have to use

1543
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: that Corter zone ten on having to use that quarter

1544
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 1: Zone ten. All right with fly your ass out there

1545
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: to California. Play My Mom says this is a very

1546
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 1: informative podcast. I guess so knowledgeable and pleasure On the podcast,

1547
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 1: great show, c HM says, thank you for this topic.

1548
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: The question I have would be her advice on picking

1549
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: up as this esthetician or facialist. What hey, she we

1550
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: gave you her social medias. Go into comedy in the

1551
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: check in the comments and ask her. I'm sure she'll

1552
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: make a video if she doesn't already have one. On TikTok,

1553
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: Jay Ford said, I'm so glad y'all talked about skincare influencers.

1554
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: These people be acting like that there most qualified, more

1555
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: qualified the dermatologists with no school in.

1556
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: The train and speak of right.

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01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I thought, doctor Paul was so gracious

1558
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: because she did not like dismiss or belittle those people.

1559
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: She was just saying, like, anecdotally, folks have things that

1560
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: work for them, and it's not always something I can

1561
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 1: learn in my school. The stuff I learned in my

1562
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: school doesn't work on everybody. So someone could anecdotally be

1563
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: telling you the truth that blank thing worked for them,

1564
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: but it could also not work for you or it

1565
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: could be like risky or dangerous to have side effects

1566
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: that aren't really we don't know about because and that

1567
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: they don't even know about because they're not a doctor

1568
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: and they're not held to those standards.

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01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 2: Right, Thank you both.

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01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: And doctor Pover is in formative episode regarding our skin,

1571
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: says Erica, and that says, thanks so much for sharing

1572
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: this information heart, much needed, great questions, great job. Four

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01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: forty eight am. I don't know why they keep putting

1574
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: the time, but okay, I'm up early, right, Carell says,

1575
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: oh wait. Joseph says. Carell has a lot of lotions

1576
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: that contain ceremonies, and it has been the best.

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01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 2: For fine, for for ezema for me, so okay, uh

1578
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 2: so there you go.

1579
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: Boom.

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01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into.

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01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,879
Speaker 6: And I am so really glad that people really enjoyed

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01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 6: that guest, because when we were talking about getting her

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01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 6: on any things, I was like, I have tons of questions,

1584
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 6: and I appreciate not trying to finding her, not thinking

1585
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 6: that questions were stupid, you know, or like dismissing questions,

1586
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 6: you know, like very open to even the questions that

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01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 6: the audience had, you know, because like my questions about

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01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 6: dangel is the question I've asked I've been a kid.

1589
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 6: I was like, you know, can you get Dane you know,

1590
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 6: in your eyebrows? You know, I know that might sound wow,

1591
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 6: but come to find out, you can get it on

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01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 6: other parts of your body, which I didn't know. So

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01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 6: I appreciate her, like you said, gracing us with the

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01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 6: knowledge and not dismissing anything as you know, stupid, because

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01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 6: you know she knows things that the general mass does not.

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01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you had great questions and Kay prepared to

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01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: ask questions, and uh, that was a guest specifically. They're

1598
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: people reached out to us, and you know, I'm like, like,

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01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: if it was just me by myself, I probably would

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01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: not have chose to have that person on, not in

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01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 1: any dismissive way, but just on something like I guess

1602
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: this is a really what our podcast does and is about.

1603
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know it that our podcast can

1604
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 1: be anything about anything, talking to anyone, And I'm like, well,

1605
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: maybe if Karen is interested in having her on, then

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01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: we can do it. And then, you know, I'm always

1607
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 1: looking for ways to get Karen active in the show,

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01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: especially when we have guests, because a lot of times

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01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: you kind of like look at It's like looking at

1610
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: someone played double Dutch and decided not to jump in,

1611
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: just like just jump in. It's not a formal conversation.

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01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 2: You ask the question.

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01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: I can see you over there hesitating and pausing, and

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01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: I don't get it. So like when we have a

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01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: guest like this, I don't I don't have to worry

1616
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 1: about that as much because you really do have questions

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01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: for him and are curious.

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01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 7: Yes, And I didn't even go through all of my

1619
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 7: questions like I have.

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01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: We didn't have time because literally had an hour with her.

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01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: She stayed over the hour, Yes she did, but which

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01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: is very nice of her. But I promised her people

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01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: that it was just an hour. So that was why

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01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: I was like, shit, I don't think we're gonna have

1625
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 1: And the audience asked a lot of questions, Yes they did,

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01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: so I had to make an audible like what do

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01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: we do? I only asked the questions we did, or

1628
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: let the audience get they questions in that stuff.

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01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:30,799
Speaker 6: And I appreciate the questions that the audience had because

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01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,759
Speaker 6: you know, some of them questions. Some of their questions

1631
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 6: were like things that you know, I wouldn't even thought

1632
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 6: of and things like that. And also that's actually a

1633
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 6: bonus to actually come live, you know, and things like that,

1634
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 6: so you can actually interact and stuff.

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01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:44,919
Speaker 7: That's like a plus.

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01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 6: So for those people that, like I had all these

1637
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 6: questioning things like that, you actually could have asked those

1638
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 6: questions if you would have been live in the chat.

1639
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 6: So shout out to the chat room for actually, you know,

1640
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 6: helping facilitate, you know, the questions doing that show.

1641
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 1: All right, voicemail time. All right, people call it the

1642
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: voicemail line and left us messages. I think we got five,

1643
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: so let's see what you guys had to say.

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01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 3: Hey to Telega, I was really disheartened at the possibilities

1645
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to leave long with investages. So

1646
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 3: I'm glad we're back. Anyway, I'm listening to thirty one

1647
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,959
Speaker 3: or four year feedback episode, and as I do, I

1648
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 3: have feedback on the feedback episode, and you're talking about Bernie,

1649
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 3: and I wanted to just briefly talk about my history

1650
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 3: because I was introduced to Bernie maybe like ten years ago,

1651
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 3: oh gosh, maybe even fifteen, almost twenty years ago, when

1652
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 3: he would call in on Friday to Tom harton SO Radio. Show,

1653
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 3: and I was a fucker for what he was saying,

1654
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 3: because he was talking about the system in terms of

1655
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 3: anti capitalism, and I, of course was hanging around my

1656
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 3: progressive labor folk and there are aspects of that idealism

1657
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 3: that I truly believe in. But he became abundantly clear,

1658
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 3: like everybody else, like you speak on quite a bit,

1659
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 3: it became abundantly clear that he was ignoring certain things

1660
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 3: in order to win, which I get that to a

1661
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 3: certain extent, but then you're better than anybody else, And

1662
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 3: if you're ignoring the blatant parts of America that shouldn't

1663
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 3: be ignored, then are you really the candidate for America?

1664
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's my very abbreviated response and history of

1665
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 3: my my history with Bernie. He's not He's like he's

1666
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 3: being everybody else. And there was a point where I

1667
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 3: started calling him Trump of the Left. So yeah, it's

1668
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 3: hard to, you know, find hope when he has people

1669
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 3: like this. But I do appreciate that AOC and Bernie

1670
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 3: are at least getting out there. But I definitely don't

1671
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 3: want Bernie to run for president. I don't think he

1672
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 3: would win. To be honest, that he hasn't so it

1673
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 3: would go to shay that perhaps he is not the

1674
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 3: right one.

1675
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, not being able to win the Democratic primary and

1676
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: then saying it was rigg to me was just a

1677
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: it's a very bad look because I think you for

1678
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 1: a person like him, he needs to win the Democratic

1679
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:29,839
Speaker 1: primary to even convince me he can be president. Agreed,

1680
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: so that you know, I don't know what he's doing

1681
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 1: with this, but it's unfortunate. Like I said, I don't

1682
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: take any fucking joy in it. If anything, at this

1683
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: point is just making me mad and sad about it.

1684
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: And I guess, you know, anger is sadness that has

1685
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: no place to go. So I'm really more sad about

1686
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 1: Bernie because I think he has such great potential.

1687
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, he.

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01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: Just willfully allows a certain amount of like racial animists

1689
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: and animist towards people that aren't white men to exist

1690
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 1: in his coalition. And he doesn't really shout it down.

1691
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: He play case to it and says, you know, like

1692
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: like we're sitting there with Andrew Schultz Man, it just

1693
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 1: really crystallize the issues I do have with him. We're

1694
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: all sitting there with him, and it's just sad. No

1695
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: I want I would like a present, Like I get

1696
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: there's certain things you can't say in America, Like it's

1697
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: why they try to trip like how they try to

1698
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: trip up presidential candidates.

1699
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 2: Where they be like, would you say America is a

1700
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: racist country?

1701
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: Like a debate, and it's like, you know, Kamala Harris

1702
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: and Barack Obama actually can't say America's a racist country.

1703
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: You know, Joe Biden can't say that, whether it's true

1704
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: or not. We don't. We're not electing people to tell

1705
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: us that kind of truth. We know it would immediately

1706
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: end their candidacy. So it's not like I'm asking Bernie

1707
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: to do that. But I think it's different between that

1708
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: and being like, well, you know, our society says or

1709
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: if you're black, you're great, if you're gay, you're great,

1710
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 1: and and I'm like, no, it doesn't the fuck are

1711
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: you talking about? Why are you sitting there with some

1712
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: fucking biggots acting like that premise is I'm sorry, next voice,

1713
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: mail it to the next one.

1714
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 11: What's going on, y'all? It's great. So I'm listening to

1715
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 11: the show, listen to the feedback show. On the way

1716
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 11: to my daughter's high school graduation, shout out Breed Class

1717
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 11: of twenty twenty five. Y'all are talking about the Shade Room,

1718
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 11: and Rod, I'm telling you it's not it's no third

1719
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 11: high to be open. That shit is clear as day.

1720
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 5: You are so right.

1721
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 11: I noticed the same shit.

1722
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:43,879
Speaker 5: I'm watching these.

1723
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 11: These headlines in the Shade Room, and I'm like, these

1724
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 11: are like Fox News talking points, these are not These

1725
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 11: are not ideas that are from black people, Like it

1726
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 11: is a message that is intended for black people, but

1727
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 11: that shit doesn't come from us and caring. You were

1728
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 11: so right about how it moves people just slowly to

1729
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 11: the side. It seems unrelated. But so when I was

1730
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 11: a teacher, I used to always say, I tell my

1731
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 11: students the same thing all the time. I tell these

1732
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 11: young kids the same thing every single day, and I

1733
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 11: know that they're not gonna hear me, right, because no

1734
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 11: kid hears an adult telling them directly this is how

1735
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 11: to live your life. Right. But what I'm actually hoping

1736
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 11: happens is later on down the line, someone else who

1737
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 11: they trust says the same thing, because I know that

1738
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 11: when they hear it in that second time, it's gonna

1739
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 11: mean more. It's gonna be reinforced more and it's that

1740
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 11: same shit those right when people are doing with the

1741
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 11: Shade Room and them fucking black sites. They taking our

1742
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 11: own media hoping that people who are not engaged politically

1743
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 11: see a sniffet of that shit somewhere else, and then

1744
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 11: they hear one of them say it later on and

1745
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 11: they're like, oh, yeah, I did know that, because it

1746
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,799
Speaker 11: makes a dumb motherfucker feel smart to have some fucking

1747
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 11: anchor into whatever people are talking about. This is crazy,

1748
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 11: that's all. I don't even have a follow up or

1749
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 11: a closure. You're just right, and I agree completely, love

1750
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 11: you guys, and I always.

1751
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: Love the show Man.

1752
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 2: Nah, that is so true.

1753
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: I didn't even That's part of the full minded because

1754
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:19,560
Speaker 1: you get that second confirmation to the already bad misinformation.

1755
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I did hear something.

1756
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: About the measles vaccine gives people autism.

1757
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 6: I did hear that.

1758
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,440
Speaker 2: And it's like you heard it from two fucked up places.

1759
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: You're from the Shade Room, which is not a news organization,

1760
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: and then you heard it from RFK Junior, And now

1761
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,520
Speaker 1: you walk around saying that dumb shit on Facebook.

1762
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they do think that they're smart, because that's

1763
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 6: the thing we live in a society now where smart,

1764
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:48,759
Speaker 6: where dumb people want to be smart, and they act

1765
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 6: like the smart people are the dumb ones now, and

1766
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 6: the smart people don't know what they're talking about. And

1767
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 6: when they got their knowledge and their news and everything

1768
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 6: is valid, and the people who actually have dedicated you

1769
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,520
Speaker 6: in school got all these degrees, I can easily dismiss

1770
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 6: their shit because in my own world, in my own

1771
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 6: in my own reality, not the reality that's actually real

1772
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 6: reality to everybody in their own reality, they are they're

1773
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 6: smart now. And it's dangerous when you live in the

1774
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:21,839
Speaker 6: in the society where in particularly it's social media online,

1775
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 6: you can create your own reality. It doesn't have checks

1776
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 6: and balances, it doesn't have anybody testing you. You can

1777
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 6: feel good all the time, sad all the time, depressed,

1778
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 6: whatever it, angry, whatever it is you want. Social media

1779
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 6: says I got you. And whenever you step outside of that,

1780
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 6: you stepped outside of that matrix and reality hits you.

1781
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 7: You could be like, oh, let me go.

1782
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 6: Ahead and take this red pill again. And I know

1783
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 6: this steak is fake, but I want this fake steak.

1784
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 6: Everybody that's trapped in the quote unquote social media matrix

1785
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 6: and online matrix. No matter what platform you use, A

1786
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 6: lot of people love being there because you know what,

1787
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 6: you know what's outside of that reality. Fear, you know

1788
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 6: what's outside of that reality. Shit you can't control. You

1789
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 6: know what, it's outside of that reality. Anxiety, sadness, depression

1790
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 6: is waiting on you.

1791
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 7: But you have to face those things.

1792
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 6: And we live in the world that tells you you

1793
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 6: ain't got to deal with it.

1794
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 7: You ain't got to face it.

1795
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 6: You know what, when people tell you that your behavior

1796
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 6: is wrong, you can tell them, no, it's not real,

1797
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 6: and you will have people confirm what you're feeling. You

1798
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 6: have people tell you it's okay. It's like a comfort blanket,

1799
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 6: and you can wrap yourself up in your own personal

1800
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:36,520
Speaker 6: reality that's not real that it's actually driving you insane

1801
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 6: and separating you from friends, families, and loved one and

1802
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,640
Speaker 6: the reality that's happening. And the thing is, it's just

1803
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 6: like any other drug. It's a drug. You know you

1804
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 6: can't If you don't admit that you have a problem

1805
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 6: of not facing reality, no one can help you.

1806
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 7: And that's the issue.

1807
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 6: Too many people are trapped in this world and they

1808
01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 6: will not admit that they have a problem, and when

1809
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 6: people come and tell you anything opposite, you run back

1810
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 6: to what makes you comfortable. And it's very, very dangerous

1811
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 6: to live in a society that doesn't want to face

1812
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 6: these things, because you know what, the second you have

1813
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 6: to face these things, you will find out now that

1814
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 6: it's not hard, not that it's not difficult.

1815
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 7: You will find out.

1816
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 6: That that you can cope through these things. You can

1817
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 6: actually people actually care about you. They want to help

1818
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,879
Speaker 6: you get into the reality of what's happening.

1819
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:25,799
Speaker 7: But as long as.

1820
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,719
Speaker 6: You're in the now, nobody can help you. So, baby,

1821
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 6: I'm one hundred percent behind you, and I believe that.

1822
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,879
Speaker 6: And it's dangerous when you don't have to face reality.

1823
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 6: And this is why we have a society where everything

1824
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 6: got to make me feel good. Don't hurt my feelings.

1825
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 6: I don't want to feel bad, bitch. That's not reality.

1826
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 6: That's not reality. In the real world. Shit hurts in

1827
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 6: the real world. You will be disappointed. In the real world,

1828
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 6: you will be let down. But we're in this illusion

1829
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 6: of social media that tells you that everything has to

1830
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 6: feel right all the time, and if it doesn't, you

1831
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 6: have the right to reject it.

1832
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: Here, okay, I have to ask how did you get

1833
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 1: there from the shape.

1834
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,759
Speaker 6: Because he made a comment when he was talking about

1835
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 6: the you know, the shade room and the reality of

1836
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 6: people dealing with the shade room, and I think and

1837
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 6: also when people talk when he was talking about like

1838
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 6: the information, how you get your confirmation from the shade

1839
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 6: room and then you get your confirmation from this other source.

1840
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 6: So now you feel smart, you personally feel smart. Okay,

1841
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 6: So you feeling smart makes you feel like, since I'm smart,

1842
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 6: why do I have to believe the real smart people?

1843
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 6: So I can create create my reality. But I'm always

1844
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 6: the smartest person in the room, and I can reject

1845
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 6: the real smart people and call them dumb because I

1846
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 6: got confirmation bias that I am smart. And so that's

1847
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 6: what led onto that.

1848
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I see how you got that.

1849
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 1: This is very interesting because at the same time that

1850
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: you were saying that, Bossy was texting me about there's

1851
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 1: this woman that I think I may have even played

1852
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: the video with you in the car went time, but

1853
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: it was this woman who was clearly having a site.

1854
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 1: Oh maybe I watched it by self, but she was

1855
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:13,759
Speaker 1: having a clear psychotic breakdown. She was not seeing her family,

1856
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: and she was telling the people in the chat of

1857
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: her tiktoks like, you know, I called the police. They

1858
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 1: called the police and did it well fit wellness check

1859
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 1: on me?

1860
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 7: Yes, I saw another one with you okay, but.

1861
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: It was like they did a wellness check on me,

1862
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,759
Speaker 1: and I told them that these people are not really

1863
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: my family. They are trying to do this and da

1864
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 1: da da and so BOSSI had just texted me literally

1865
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:44,879
Speaker 1: like right before the show whatever and was like, you know, update,

1866
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 1: and the girl was doing a new TikTok and she

1867
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 1: was like, I had a mental breakdown, you know whatever,

1868
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 1: stopped taking I met whatever she did and was in

1869
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: the middle of a psychosis, and the comments section was

1870
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 1: on my side. She's like, I can't believe y'all. Let

1871
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:08,639
Speaker 1: me have experienced mental psychosists, and y'all were saying that,

1872
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,640
Speaker 1: and I thought that was very relevant to what you

1873
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: were just saying, which is, like I said, I wasn't

1874
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,799
Speaker 1: really sure that. To me, it's more like the comment

1875
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 1: section does the thing where you never feel bad and

1876
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: everything feels good and they're not really connected to you.

1877
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 2: So they tell you that your.

1878
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 1: Psychosist is your superpower and your family really is abusing

1879
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 1: you and all this shit, But they don't know you,

1880
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 1: They don't know any of the information. Why the fuck

1881
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 1: would people that raised you, live with you, fed you,

1882
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 1: clothed you, helped you, cocked you all the time, them

1883
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 1: putting a wellness check on you.

1884
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 2: That's the real abuse me, person that just saw.

1885
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 1: You on my feed and when Yeah, Queen, I'm the

1886
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: real family and supporter, right, that's what it felt like.

1887
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 1: You were getting that that idea, and I was Liken,

1888
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: how does this shaveroom lead to that? But yeah, the

1889
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: shaveroom in a different ways, just an extension of that.

1890
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 2: It's just the same shit.

1891
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 1: It's the same Like I always feel good because the

1892
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 1: biases that I have are always being like confirmed somewhere,

1893
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: so and I can find that source somewhere online to

1894
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 1: tell me that you know the vaccines are fake or

1895
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 1: that you know Kamala Harris isn't a real black woman.

1896
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 7: I can reject everything.

1897
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 1: You know, the transphobia I have towards our wade is

1898
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 1: the right way to feel. And I can just find

1899
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 1: people that are just always make me feel like that's okay,

1900
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 1: that never want me to be a higher or better self.

1901
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 1: So I feel you.

1902
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 2: He did call back with another.

1903
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 1: Message it straight again.

1904
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,480
Speaker 11: I'm gonna keep this quick because I'm feeding the baby

1905
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 11: and I already.

1906
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 4: Let the voice know speak.

1907
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 5: I'm listening to the Dermatology episode and bruh, the black

1908
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 5: on black sun burned slander is so real.

1909
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 4: So we went to Jamaica.

1910
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 5: The lady who we booked a resort with is telling

1911
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 5: us all all the things that we're gonna need.

1912
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 4: She's like, oh, yeah, you should get a tumbler, you

1913
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 4: should need this, you should get that. And then she

1914
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 4: looks at me, she says, and sunscreen issue went to

1915
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 4: that kind of thing.

1916
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 11: Bruh.

1917
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, so now I gotta get burnt up out

1918
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 4: here just to prove I'm black.

1919
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's real, you know what, It's real. When I

1920
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 6: went to Jamaica, I had sunscreen and I used that

1921
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 6: sunscreen and there it might sound wild, but the sun

1922
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 6: because of the time of the year I went, it

1923
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 6: wasn't like the hottest time of the year the sun hits,

1924
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 6: but it don't. It didn't beat you up, but I

1925
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 6: could do down here. But even with that, Yeah, sunscreen

1926
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 6: matters because because you will bake you and you will

1927
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 6: bake hard.

1928
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: We got two more voicemails from one person I think,

1929
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 1: left two voicemails and got cut off at the three

1930
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 1: minute mark, which is deliving apparently, and then called back.

1931
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 9: There Ride and Karen is Ley from Brooklyn. I hope

1932
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 9: you guys are doing well. I finally had a chance

1933
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 9: this week to listen to each show this week, so

1934
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,600
Speaker 9: this voicemail may be a little bit scattered, but I

1935
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,719
Speaker 9: want to try to stick to what I heard this week.

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Speaker 9: So first off, shout out to Karen for bringing up

1937
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Speaker 9: the sanitary napkin tampon machine. You know, I'm of the

1938
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 9: belief that those machines should not cost people money. Because

1939
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 9: we are in a period poverty crisis, there are quite

1940
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 9: a few people that aren't able to have those products right.

1941
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 9: All of those products are supposed to be available in

1942
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 9: free to students in New York City public schools, but

1943
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 9: that doesn't always happen. But we need to extend it.

1944
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 9: And you know, even if, like Karen mentioned it, people

1945
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 9: being able to use credit cards or be able to

1946
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:10,679
Speaker 9: able to pay virtually, but the fact of the matter

1947
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 9: is most of the people in the United States are

1948
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 9: women and or people who menstraights, and people need free

1949
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 9: access to those things. So thanks to Karen for bringing

1950
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 9: that out. And then one more thing. I'm forgetting a

1951
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 9: whole bunch of stuff, but I wanted to talk about

1952
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Speaker 9: the up.

1953
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:35,879
Speaker 3: Road is involved.

1954
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 9: Can you make the guess the race harder? And I

1955
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 9: want you to consider this, just consider it. I don't

1956
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 9: think that the clues. I think the clues are good.

1957
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 9: What I would suggest is that maybe for the Bonus round,

1958
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 9: you don't tell people the name, because I think that's

1959
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 9: how a lot of people are able to guess the

1960
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 9: race is based off of the name. Not always, but

1961
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 9: a lot of times. So I know, Rod, You're gonna

1962
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 9: probably be like, no, I'm not changing it, but I'm

1963
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:14,600
Speaker 9: gonna ask you to consider maybe, at least for the

1964
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Speaker 9: Bonus round, you just tell the story, you don't say

1965
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Speaker 9: the name, and Karen and everybody else is just gonna

1966
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 9: have to get based off of the actions. Okay, So

1967
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 9: that's my feel. I may call back, but I really

1968
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 9: enjoyed being able to listen to you guys fully this week,

1969
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 9: and hopefully we'll be able to do it moving on.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, I always have to take like breaks

1971
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 9: from media to keep my sanity, but just wanted to

1972
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 9: shout you too out for those things. So okay, Happy Friday.

1973
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 9: Can't wait to hear you guys start talking about the

1974
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 9: real ca.

1975
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Speaker 7: Hilarious.

1976
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 6: First of all, if you don't mind me gonna first,

1977
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 6: First of all, I do agree with you about the expenses.

1978
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 6: A lot of people who don't buy sanitary ship don't

1979
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 6: realize that depends on what kind you use, what stalues.

1980
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:18,719
Speaker 7: And all that shit.

1981
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 6: You could spend hundreds, possibly thousands of dollars a year

1982
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 6: just in sanitation shit from drawls to cups, to tampas

1983
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,759
Speaker 6: and tampons. But they shit, they fly, they got wings,

1984
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:33,839
Speaker 6: they got all types of shit on that shit becomes

1985
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 6: very very expensive, and most men do not have that expense,

1986
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 6: so they don't give a fuck about this added on

1987
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 6: unnecessary expense quote unquote that you have to deal with

1988
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 6: every month. Bitch, it don't stop. It's like clockwork. It's

1989
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 6: gonna show up. It's like something you just can't get

1990
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 6: rid of it, you know, and not to get off top.

1991
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 7: But some dudes. But ain't you used to it?

1992
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 6: Bitch? Let me punch you into balls every day for

1993
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 6: seven days, three to five, seven day straight every month,

1994
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 6: and let me see if you be like, get used

1995
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 6: to it. No, bitch, you know, and so for me,

1996
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 6: it's one of those things. But it gets expensive, so

1997
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 6: I think it should be free. And also it's hilarious

1998
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 6: that you wrote that article. I mean not you wrote

1999
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 6: that article, but you wrote in about the guess the race.

2000
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 6: The thing is about guess race. Roger is just literally

2001
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 6: reading the articles that are given to him and that's it.

2002
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 6: Like it's that simple, y'all. It's nothing more complex than that.

2003
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: They just don't understand my art and what I'm doing here.

2004
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 1: It's like if they said, how come will the fortune

2005
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 1: can't have some of the letters actually be the wrong letters?

2006
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Where like it's say you say,

2007
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 1: can I have an ess? And then they give you

2008
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 1: a K Like it's like, no, the game, the accessibility

2009
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 1: of the game is the point everyone can play, right,

2010
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 1: and you're just having fun and I'm not. There's no

2011
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 1: trick because the trick once you add the tricks, once

2012
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 1: you add the like I'm gonna make this a little

2013
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 1: harder on this one than the last one. You starting

2014
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:10,680
Speaker 1: to hedge, like now it's about reading me. It's no

2015
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 1: longer about the article or the game. Now that could

2016
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: be fun, I guess but I just prefer it to

2017
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 1: be like everyone's got the same equal playing field and

2018
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 1: caring and everyone is just trying to guess and honestly

2019
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 1: because race, goddamn it, I have to fucking I cannot believe. Okay, guys,

2020
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:39,440
Speaker 1: So race is made up. Okay, race is just a concept.

2021
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 1: It's not real. Right now, we have to live with

2022
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 1: the ideas and the impulses and the consequences that come

2023
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 1: with the prejudicial way we view race. Okay, I can't

2024
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,920
Speaker 1: believe I have to say this about this goddamn game.

2025
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,600
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be fun. I don't wanna give a

2026
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 1: fucking I want to give like a goddamn college lecture

2027
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 1: on the shit. But race is all made up, and

2028
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:10,600
Speaker 1: everything that extends from it as well, meaning whatever stereotypical

2029
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 1: actions we would derive, the idea of attaching race too,

2030
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: is also completely prejudicial and made up, as well as

2031
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 1: even names, meaning there are going to be times when

2032
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: y'all hear a name and it has happened.

2033
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 2: We've done three thousand episodes. We've had times when.

2034
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 1: Y'all heard the name and you went, I don't know

2035
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 1: no white laverniuses, and then you guess and everybody's fucking

2036
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 1: wrong because.

2037
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 2: Race is crazy.

2038
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 6: You find that one white Lavernians out there in the world.

2039
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 1: The point of the game is to really deconstruct racism

2040
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 1: and be like, this shit is nonsensical and yet it

2041
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 1: drives us apart. Yes, that's it.

2042
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 2: It actually has nothing to do. We honestly could play

2043
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 2: Guess the race.

2044
01:43:58,560 --> 01:43:59,759
Speaker 1: It don't even gotta be crimes.

2045
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 7: I ain't got it, ain't gotta.

2046
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 1: There's an episode where I use a Guess the race

2047
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 1: and it's just fucking like, uh, so and so bought

2048
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 1: a house, and it's like, well, no one ever writes

2049
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 1: glowing things about black people buying houses. It must be

2050
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 1: white people, you know.

2051
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 6: Sometimes it's a bear, Yes, we guess the race of

2052
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 6: the bear.

2053
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

2054
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 7: I will.

2055
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 1: And I don't always have the name. Some articles you

2056
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 1: just don't have the names. But even not having the

2057
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 1: names is a clue. If I find an article that

2058
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:32,759
Speaker 1: don't have the name, that that leads you down different

2059
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 1: roads of like when do they not name people that

2060
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 1: do crimes? Yeah?

2061
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 6: Sometimes you can still be wrong, yeah, but but the

2062
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 6: point is it's all bullshit.

2063
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 1: So no, the game will remain. The game remains unchanged, and.

2064
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 6: As me as a guesser and as the audience is

2065
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 6: like a guesser. That's part of the fun because it

2066
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 6: basically plays on like, right, I say, your own biases,

2067
01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 6: your own personal experiences, because.

2068
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,639
Speaker 2: The layup set you up. That's what they don't see.

2069
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: They don't get that the layups are the ones that

2070
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 1: set you up to be wrong. Oh, these people with

2071
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 1: meth were wearing Trump flags and doing It's like, well,

2072
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:15,600
Speaker 1: we know that's white, right, but that's also funny that

2073
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:16,799
Speaker 1: we all know that's white.

2074
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:17,719
Speaker 2: But it's the.

2075
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 1: Ones where, like, you know, you think you got a

2076
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 1: lay up and then it's like, actually, racist fucked up

2077
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 1: in America. That was a black man with that Trump jar. Y'all. Y'all,

2078
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 1: you got caught up. You know, you didn't ask how

2079
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 1: the spelling of the name.

2080
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 6: Was right, And sometimes that be the clue to me.

2081
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:37,640
Speaker 6: I don't mean, I'm not that funny, y'all. That's what

2082
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 6: makes it fun. Like for me personally, that what makes

2083
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 6: it fun. Going off of my own bike, this.

2084
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 1: Is how y'all fucked up Monopoly and why everybody hate

2085
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 1: playing Monopoly because y'all start wanting to play by just

2086
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 1: oh what if we made it so you could take

2087
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 1: the money out the bank and then no, the rules

2088
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: already there. Stop fucking with it two weeks now. Then

2089
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a bunch of emails later like I

2090
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 1: don't like how Rod gets to the bonus rounds and

2091
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,799
Speaker 1: d he won't say the name, like get out here anyway.

2092
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 1: Sorry sorry, Yeah, left another voicemail.

2093
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,599
Speaker 9: Okay, it's Leary again. I got cut off. So yeah,

2094
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 9: I was just saying, I can't wait for next week

2095
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 9: to hear you guys talk about you know, the real

2096
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 9: Wise Housewives ish if that was going on between those

2097
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 9: two idiots yesterday, so I mean it was, it's not

2098
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 9: anything amusing for about five minutes, but yeah.

2099
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 3: Real quick though, I did want to talk about.

2100
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 9: The NPR MPBS, you know, losing their funding, so I

2101
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 9: would say ten toes down, PBS for sure, fight back

2102
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 9: all that stuff. Definitely on PBS's side. MPR, I have

2103
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 9: to say, especially when you listen to their national news

2104
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:01,599
Speaker 9: shows like the morning show they had and the evening

2105
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 9: show they had. What I noticed about them is whenever,

2106
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 9: like at least nationally, whenever there are Republicans in charge,

2107
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 9: they really treat them with kid gloves, you know, and

2108
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:17,679
Speaker 9: they really give a lot of like benefited the doubt

2109
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 9: and you know, ol way they said that, oh they

2110
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:23,599
Speaker 9: claim and but like a lot of cover room, right.

2111
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 9: And then I find that when it's Democrats in power,

2112
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 9: they are very aggressive. They're just like, you know, acting

2113
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 9: the questions that you wish that they would ask Republicans.

2114
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 9: So for example, just the other day on the morning show,

2115
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 9: there was some Democratic representatives on n He was talking

2116
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 9: about this big beautiful bill or whatever, and you know,

2117
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 9: talking about raising the debt ceiling, and then the moderator

2118
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:57,640
Speaker 9: was like, yeah, but Democrats have had run up the

2119
01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 9: debt ceiling too. They've done that, and it's like, bro,

2120
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 9: we are talking about what's going on now. So they

2121
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 9: do a lot of I can't think of the words, sorry,

2122
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 9: they do a lot of what about ism. I find

2123
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:15,679
Speaker 9: that they do that a lot, and they're just more

2124
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:20,600
Speaker 9: They press Democrats way more than they pressed Republicans. So

2125
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 9: you know, they've been to the knee or they've been

2126
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:28,599
Speaker 9: to the knee a little bit, you know, not as

2127
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,879
Speaker 9: big as some of the other mainstream and legacy medias,

2128
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 9: but they do do it a little bit. And for

2129
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 9: all of their posturing and you know, trying not to

2130
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 9: poke the bear. The bear still did bear stuff. So

2131
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 9: you know, all right, thanks again for all you guys.

2132
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,679
Speaker 9: Do love listening to your show and peace out.

2133
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for writing Colin and Leelee and the

2134
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: thing I'll say about them that I think I find

2135
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 1: a little bit different than say so, I have a

2136
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 1: phrase performative objectivity. That's what I call that. When you

2137
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,560
Speaker 1: do the well, we have to be tough on Democrats

2138
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 1: and Republicans. And so if I'm going to question will

2139
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 1: this big bill really worked the way that Trump says

2140
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 1: or will his terrorists work to set that way, I'm

2141
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 1: being tough on Trump. And when I ask is Biden

2142
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 1: really suited to fit sit in the office, I'm being

2143
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:25,719
Speaker 1: tough on Democrats. I'm being fair.

2144
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:27,799
Speaker 2: That's my job as a journalist. That's what they believe.

2145
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 1: Fine, whatever the reason, I would say, it's different for

2146
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 1: NPR than say even John Oliver or John Stewart or

2147
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: even like a CNN at MSNBC. Their money literally comes

2148
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 1: from the government, a lot of it. It's donors and

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Speaker 1: stuff too, But without the government money they wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: able to do it.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: We only have a democracy when we elect democrats. That's America.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately we elect Republicans, we no longer have a democracy.

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Speaker 1: They do not believe in democracy. They do everything they

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01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 1: can to stayful democracy. They don't want people to vote,

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01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 1: they don't want people to have, you know, be able

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Speaker 1: to voice their rights. They don't want a representative democracy.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to even they don't even want to

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Speaker 1: govern for the people who lose the So if they

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Speaker 1: win with a minority of the voting in the country,

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Speaker 1: they still rule as if they got a majority of

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Speaker 1: the vote, as if ninety nine percent of the country

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Speaker 1: agrees with whatever. Shit they don't go, well, yeah, we won,

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that women shouldn't have the right

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Speaker 1: to like health care if they decide to get an abortion. No,

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Speaker 1: they go, we won. That means women don't have rights.

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Speaker 1: Fuck them, we want. So I say all that to say,

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Speaker 1: of course, an NPR in the Republican administration, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be tiptoeing because of what's happening right now, of what's happening,

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Speaker 1: and it's not something that always happens under Republicans. These

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Speaker 1: Republicans have gotten worse, Like this is this massive defunding

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Speaker 1: is something they've been flirting with and wanting to do

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Speaker 1: but this these Republicans seem like they're going to do it,

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Speaker 1: or at least attempt to do it until a court

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Speaker 1: makes them not do it. Right, So I think that's

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Speaker 1: what you're hearing is fear. And when we don't have

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Speaker 1: a free media, which is one of the tempoles of democracies,

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Speaker 1: democracies dies. And this is what it looks like if

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Speaker 1: you let Republicans not you, but we let Republicans be

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Speaker 1: in charge, and then we're like, oh shit, the media

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Speaker 1: is afraid. Yeah, yeah, And you know what you're hearing

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Speaker 1: When it's Biden or Obama, they're just not afraid, right,

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't necessarily make them good people or virtuous.

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Speaker 1: It just means that they should be able to ask

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Speaker 1: those same questions of Republicans. They just know that a

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Speaker 1: Democrat won't retaliate. They know that Obama won't go back

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Speaker 1: to his office and go, I didn't like that they

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Speaker 1: questioned me on this thing, and therefore I will no

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Speaker 1: longer let NPR get government funding.

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Speaker 2: But Donald Trump absolutely will do that.

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Speaker 7: Agree.

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Speaker 1: And they're not attack dogs, meaning they don't have they're

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01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:15,839
Speaker 1: not supposed to go into this thing with an agenda.

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Speaker 1: Of like let's take down Trump. They sopposed to go

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Speaker 1: into it with an agenda. Let's get to the truth.

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Speaker 1: And the last thing I'll say is this, most people

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Speaker 1: who consume media don't always understand the goals of the media,

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Speaker 1: Meaning there are people who get offended by questions that

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Speaker 1: journalists are asking that are actually trying to put the

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Speaker 1: subject in a better light. So like, sometimes you ask

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Speaker 1: a question that people go that was tough question.

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Speaker 2: They shouldn't have asked that.

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Speaker 1: But if the answer allows Kamala Harris to just dunk

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01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:52,719
Speaker 1: on that question, then I'm glad the question got asked,

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01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 1: and we need to know if that person can do it.

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01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 1: So sometimes people think things are attacks that aren't. I'm

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01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 1: not saying that everything that happens at NPR. That's the

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01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:03,599
Speaker 1: landscape we're in. So I can see them being like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I questioned Barack Obama for this thing, but then he

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Speaker 1: gave a stupendous answer that we all shared on social

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01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 1: media and told everybody every day. So like, was he

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Speaker 1: really harmed or was I just doing a good job?

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Speaker 6: I agreed, and so for me, and that's and I agree,

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Speaker 6: That's why I said NPR is a little different than

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Speaker 6: the other ones. And also when it comes to it

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Speaker 6: with the other ones, when the Democrats were in office,

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01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,599
Speaker 6: that was the time to be on everybody's ass because

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01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 6: you're in a place where you, quote unquote don't have

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01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 6: no fear. This is why I hold a lot of

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Speaker 6: media to a different standard. Underneath Biden, I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 6: if y'all gonna be on Biden's ass, be fair, be

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Speaker 6: on Trump's ass too.

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Speaker 7: Just just don't be on one.

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01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 6: Side ass consistently. And I got to hear months and

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01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 6: months and months and months and months of fucking articles

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01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 6: about the same goddamn thing, and Trump is out here

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01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:57,720
Speaker 6: doing ten times it's worse, and it's motherfucking crickets, you know,

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01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 6: for me type of thing. And so you know, I

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01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 6: understand now they're in fear, But bitch, when you were free,

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Speaker 6: you should have stood up.

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Speaker 1: Agreed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I said, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Is my point. When you're free, you question who's in

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Speaker 1: power because you're free. But when the other people in power,

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01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 1: you actually aren't free anymore. And you know it because

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01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:24,640
Speaker 1: you start being a little less assertive, a little less accusatory.

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01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 1: And of course they exist in America and a lot

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01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,639
Speaker 1: of their listener base, or a lot of Americans. Let's

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01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 1: not say listener base, but a lot of Americans are

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Speaker 1: accepting of those propaganda lies I told y'all earlier. So

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Speaker 1: they make it so that things that are not supposed

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01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 1: to be a third rail become a third rail under

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01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 1: Republican administration, because Republicans will play victim to that shit

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01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, you did, how can.

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Speaker 2: You accuse Donald Trump of racism?

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01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I was just naming racist shit he did, right,

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01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm stating facts, But his feelings and the feelings of

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01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: his the supporters are more important than your facts.

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Speaker 7: Agreed.

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Speaker 1: So I don't have to make a living in that

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01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: landscape off of listeners supported this and then government funded that.

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01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:09,920
Speaker 2: They do have to do that math.

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Speaker 1: So all I'm saying is, if you want to know

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Speaker 1: why they like, I know you're going PBS is fine,

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Speaker 1: They're not. I'm just saying to me there, it's more

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Speaker 1: about the circumstances than the actual like integrity of the organization.

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Speaker 1: What it looks like under Democrats is actually what it

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01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 1: should look like all the time. It just never will,

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Speaker 1: I agree, as long as we let Republicans be these

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Speaker 1: kind of people, they will always be afraid of them.

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Speaker 6: And also, over the years, Republicans weren't always like this.

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Speaker 6: When you tell people that that, like you're fucking lying. No,

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Speaker 6: there was a time where they were quote unquote reasonable Republicans. Yes,

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Speaker 6: they would put Republicans and no I never agreed with them,

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Speaker 6: But there was a time where Republicans actually want to

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Speaker 6: fucking government.

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Speaker 7: Now they don't want to govern.

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Speaker 6: They won't to talk about bullshit that has nothing to

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Speaker 6: do with serving the constituentus is that put them in office.

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Speaker 1: Or serving the ones that they govern over, because not

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01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:08,800
Speaker 1: even the ones that put them in office, right, because

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01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:10,840
Speaker 1: a lot of us don't vote for them, but they

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01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 1: rule as if we don't exist. They're just like, fuck

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01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: them people, let's make their life harder.

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Speaker 6: You know a lot of times the people that put

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Speaker 6: them in office, now they do ship to do people

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01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 6: mad about so now everybody mad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Yeah, you're right. Yeah, they wrote they

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01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 1: ruled as if neither part of that matters, right.

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Speaker 6: So that's why I say, the constituents, these people put

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Speaker 6: you in office, and now they can't go to their

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01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 6: small townhouw on meeting it say, bit you lied, you

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01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 6: want to cancel everything. So these are the people no,

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01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,320
Speaker 6: not mean, these are the people that put you in office,

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Speaker 6: and you go, well, fuck them niggas and fuck you too.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Rod needs some ride change his mind.

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01:56:46,720 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 1: Music like changes changes, brid changes changes mind might every

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Speaker 1: single time that my mind.

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Speaker 2: Is changed, Rid changes.

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Speaker 3: My dad might change.

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Speaker 1: We might changes, we might change, we might change. All right,

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Speaker 1: I did change my mind. Let's go to the emails

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01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 1: and then we'll wrap this thing up. Uh Our girls

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01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 1: seeing right sing Episode three, one oh six, The motherfucker

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Speaker 1: South got something to say?

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Speaker 2: Say that ship again, Karen.

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01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 1: When it all falls and we rebuild again? And pray

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01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 1: this part. I pray this podcast is dusted off. Embedded

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01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 1: in the history of black theory, the concept of personalizing

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01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 1: survival modality is a huge misstep that I've made personally,

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01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 1: and I see a lot of my peers making it.

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01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes feels like we got super saturated with knowledge of

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01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 1: what black people have endured but didn't connect with the

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01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 1: humanness of it all right, prime example never seeing our

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01:57:56,760 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 1: ancestors portrayed as fully realized humans like we see now

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01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:03,760
Speaker 1: on shows like love Craft, Country atl And Centers or

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01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:06,840
Speaker 1: books like Anything Torny Morris Center sky Full of Elephants.

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01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with a first gen immigrant from

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01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 1: Haiti who compare her parents disdain for Black Americans to

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01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 1: my very Northeastern parents interpretation of black people in the South,

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01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 1: a wildly accurate comparison. I'm going to have to send

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01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:21,840
Speaker 1: them this episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

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01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that's so important

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01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:28,879
Speaker 1: about black art. As we get more and more freedom

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01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:32,800
Speaker 1: and get more inclusion and diversity and stuff, it does

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01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:35,640
Speaker 1: matter because there's a lot of stuff black people think

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01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 1: they don't like that they just don't like because black people.

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Speaker 2: Weren't doing it yet.

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Speaker 1: So you don't think you like depictions of slavery on TV.

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01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 2: No, you just haven't really had, Like you didn't.

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01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 1: See me Shagreen do it? Need you see me Shagreen

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01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 1: doing And you're like, no, this is fucking awesome. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's the things that are lacking. And yeah,

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01:58:57,840 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't help that we still live in a racist

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01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 1: society that's convinced itself it's not racist.

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01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 2: And then they're teaching us this old shit to be.

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01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 1: Like this back when people was racist, but not like

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01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 1: us now, we're not like that at all. And it

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01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 1: makes you feel like, man, these black people back then,

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01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 1: they were getting it tough and they were marching, But

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01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,520
Speaker 1: we don't need the march anymore. They got to the

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01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 1: finish line. They got to that promised land that MLK

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01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 1: never made it to with them. So we're the fruit

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01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 1: of that promised land. We are the We're on the

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01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 1: other side of the fight. There's no fight, there's no

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01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 1: race there. We're all done. And it's all to convince

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01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 1: us that like it separates us from them, those people's

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01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 1: humanity because we don't see the connection to our own

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01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 1: and how our struggle is related, because they're not teaching

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01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:48,000
Speaker 1: it as a continued struggle. That teaching its like mission

2343
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:52,640
Speaker 1: accomplished civil rights movement anyway, no racism to be talking

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01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 1: about here today in class and anything that's happening in

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01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 1: the normal current politics. There's no echoes for you to

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01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:00,560
Speaker 1: be noticing in any of that shit. So I think

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02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 1: a lot of that is very related. I like how

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02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:08,880
Speaker 1: you put that together, Karen. We gotta take more time

2349
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:11,000
Speaker 1: to talk about how brilliant you are and how important

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02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 1: your analysis of how the Southern black experience through time

2351
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:16,480
Speaker 1: plays into politics and culture. I work for a literary

2352
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:18,960
Speaker 1: magazine that centers the South as a place for black

2353
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:23,040
Speaker 1: women's healing and restoration through a restoration through storytelling.

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Speaker 2: It's called Histories.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's dope, name histories Like histories. I got to

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02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:34,080
Speaker 1: design a workshop or interview or something around your commentary

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02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 1: on the South. You are so dynamic. I know we

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02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 1: give you flowers, but you deserve so many more accolades

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02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 1: aside you the Beyonce at this Black podcast.

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Speaker 2: Ish, I said what I said.

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02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:47,480
Speaker 7: That's hilarious.

2362
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Speaker 1: Ps Rod, very glad you found grits and eggs even

2363
02:00:50,720 --> 02:00:53,240
Speaker 1: though Karen found them first. She mentioned them an episode

2364
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 1: while back. Oh hold on, now, did Karen find them first?

2365
02:00:57,640 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 1: Or did Karen mention them on the show first? That's

2366
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:03,400
Speaker 1: the real question, because I'm not saying she didn't find

2367
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:05,400
Speaker 1: them first. I just want to know because I'll be

2368
02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:08,560
Speaker 1: on the internets, Karen, don't be on there. She'd be

2369
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:11,280
Speaker 1: on there scrolling looking at stuff, y'all. Don't be looking

2370
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:13,840
Speaker 1: like she'd be looking at fun stuff. I'll be out

2371
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:17,520
Speaker 1: there beyond. Dude, is this nigga gonna keep talking about

2372
02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:19,240
Speaker 1: these people like, oh.

2373
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:20,600
Speaker 7: Look at this kiddy?

2374
02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:24,440
Speaker 1: So I don't. I mean, maybe she did find him first.

2375
02:01:24,440 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 1: I know, I don't.

2376
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:26,480
Speaker 2: It's fine. I'm just saying.

2377
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:29,640
Speaker 1: Because the other reason I bring that up is I

2378
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:32,720
Speaker 1: could I think I've been seeing that Gris and Eggs dude,

2379
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 1: because he is great at marketing. Deontay Cayle, he is.

2380
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 1: He really hit the ground. So the cynical side of me,

2381
02:01:40,160 --> 02:01:43,760
Speaker 1: the person that makes content, that that part not cynical,

2382
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:46,240
Speaker 1: Like I don't believe Deontay Kyle, but I'm saying like

2383
02:01:46,720 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 1: people like people that don't really live in this space

2384
02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 1: and make a living in this space. I don't even

2385
02:01:53,640 --> 02:01:56,480
Speaker 1: know if they recognize how good he is at this

2386
02:01:56,600 --> 02:02:00,280
Speaker 1: media shit. I know he was a TikToker first, and

2387
02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:03,240
Speaker 1: you can feel it. He is polished, he is good,

2388
02:02:03,400 --> 02:02:07,840
Speaker 1: he is clean. But the presentation is also amazing. Two

2389
02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:11,640
Speaker 1: camera shoot, he has a producer. They switch back zoom

2390
02:02:11,680 --> 02:02:14,720
Speaker 1: in and out as he's talking. It's a little like

2391
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 1: Keith Lee and that zooming thing and how it makes

2392
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:23,320
Speaker 1: it better presentation. So it's very engrossing and brings you in, picks,

2393
02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:26,560
Speaker 1: great topics and all that stuff. So when I saw

2394
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:29,880
Speaker 1: the first few videos of him last year, I was

2395
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 1: just that the ones that I saw, I was like,

2396
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:34,640
Speaker 1: oh man, this dude's real like he's gonna hit the

2397
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:39,480
Speaker 1: ground running like he's real slick. But also as a

2398
02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:42,320
Speaker 1: sis had black man myself is a little bit of

2399
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:45,880
Speaker 1: a like. I hope that brother is on the up

2400
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:48,280
Speaker 1: and up and sticks to the things that I'm like.

2401
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 1: The stuff I'm seeing always feel like he making sense.

2402
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:54,200
Speaker 1: But my bar of like, you're gonna have to keep

2403
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:56,240
Speaker 1: at this for a while. You're gonna have to get

2404
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:59,360
Speaker 1: pushed back. You're gonna have to react to the pushback

2405
02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:02,560
Speaker 1: before I can start being like, yo, did you see

2406
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:04,880
Speaker 1: what he was saying? He was spending? Because I think

2407
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 1: the bar is so low that we'll often like hop

2408
02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:11,520
Speaker 1: on to somebody and then like milkshaked up two weeks

2409
02:03:11,600 --> 02:03:13,840
Speaker 1: later they saying like, and you know, the other problem

2410
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 1: is these females.

2411
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 2: You'm like, god, damn it, son of a bitch. You

2412
02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 2: seem to have a good point, and now look at us.

2413
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 1: Now look like a fucking fool. But now he's been

2414
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:26,840
Speaker 1: at it for months now, and I don't think that's

2415
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 1: gonna happen hopefully, and he's really handled the pushback on his.

2416
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:33,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

2417
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:35,360
Speaker 1: I was about to say black black men are the

2418
02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 1: white people, but I didn't even I was like, that's

2419
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:39,840
Speaker 1: not what he said. But he's handled the pushback on

2420
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:47,160
Speaker 1: that concept of black male responsibility to the intra community,

2421
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:52,240
Speaker 1: uh like intercommunity responsibility. He's really handled it well without

2422
02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 1: like completely crashing out funny jokes. It doesn't. I mean,

2423
02:03:57,760 --> 02:03:59,879
Speaker 1: we'll see if it becomes like a lot of his content,

2424
02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:03,200
Speaker 1: cause it can really you can get stuck there because

2425
02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:05,959
Speaker 1: then people, these motherfuckers are relentless and they never shut.

2426
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:07,120
Speaker 6: The fuck up, and they won't let you move on

2427
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 6: even when you want, right. Yeah, so it has to

2428
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:11,840
Speaker 6: be the thing. I'll side. We've learned that doing this

2429
02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 6: show longer. Though, sometimes you got to be like, we're

2430
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:15,560
Speaker 6: not even gonna talk about that.

2431
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:16,760
Speaker 2: I said what I said.

2432
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:20,120
Speaker 1: Y'all don't misunderstand me, and I know some of y'all

2433
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 1: are assholes and some of y'all get it, but whatever, right,

2434
02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 1: So anyway, my point is, I would I could be.

2435
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm into people and stuff all the time. I just

2436
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:33,600
Speaker 1: don't always mentioned on the show cause like it's been

2437
02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 1: so many times, I'm like, damn, glad, I ain't bring

2438
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:38,600
Speaker 1: that motherfucker up. Yeah, you know what I mean.

2439
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:41,160
Speaker 6: So I all upside before a lot of times before

2440
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:44,960
Speaker 6: I make suggestions, you know, depend on what the show

2441
02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:46,960
Speaker 6: is a lot of times I will have listened for

2442
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:49,560
Speaker 6: a good while to be like, Okay, y'all can go

2443
02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:52,320
Speaker 6: back and listen to old episodes, like I kind of

2444
02:04:52,360 --> 02:04:54,560
Speaker 6: want to do my research a lot of the times

2445
02:04:54,600 --> 02:04:57,040
Speaker 6: because it's been people that we talked about and and

2446
02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:59,320
Speaker 6: like later on, oh yeah.

2447
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad. And we've had situations where we've had guests

2448
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:06,600
Speaker 1: on the show, people we've invited, especially back in the day,

2449
02:05:06,760 --> 02:05:08,680
Speaker 1: and then you just like they.

2450
02:05:08,680 --> 02:05:10,760
Speaker 2: Be crashing out online a few months.

2451
02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:13,160
Speaker 1: Later, and I'll be regretting that I thought saw so

2452
02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:16,120
Speaker 1: much good in this person, you know, or they just

2453
02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:18,760
Speaker 1: or like things you thought were like maybe just a

2454
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:21,080
Speaker 1: hang up or a joke or something like, oh, they

2455
02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:23,520
Speaker 1: just be messing with us, and then you realize like, no,

2456
02:05:23,560 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 1: they very much mean that. So anyway, point being, I

2457
02:05:27,160 --> 02:05:30,840
Speaker 1: be vetting people on the low. So I even if

2458
02:05:30,840 --> 02:05:33,600
Speaker 1: I like would have heard of Grits and Eggs at

2459
02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:35,840
Speaker 1: which I did last year, I'm not bringing that ship

2460
02:05:35,920 --> 02:05:40,560
Speaker 1: up on the show because if December he's crashing out

2461
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:43,600
Speaker 1: and being like and that's why we do need to

2462
02:05:43,600 --> 02:05:46,200
Speaker 1: be with white women, I'll be like, I'm glad I

2463
02:05:46,280 --> 02:05:50,120
Speaker 1: wasn't saying this, singing this niggas praises, but uh not deontay.

2464
02:05:50,160 --> 02:05:52,400
Speaker 1: Kyle seemed like a real one. And it's been long

2465
02:05:52,520 --> 02:05:54,760
Speaker 1: enough and I feel like, you know, he'd be spending

2466
02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:58,080
Speaker 1: that that real shit. I was introduced by several of

2467
02:05:58,080 --> 02:06:01,520
Speaker 1: my sorrows who are officially doctors women's studies as of dismay.

2468
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:02,880
Speaker 1: I'll shout out to them.

2469
02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:05,960
Speaker 2: He be scaring me mentioning Umar.

2470
02:06:06,600 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 6: But uh.

2471
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:11,560
Speaker 1: We coalition building right now. See see what you just

2472
02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:15,680
Speaker 1: did that last sentence. And that's why Karen brought them

2473
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 1: up before me, because I don't be known. I'll be

2474
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:21,760
Speaker 1: afraid of that shit. Okay, I don't put my building

2475
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 1: lamar right like y'all love Karen. So Karen could be

2476
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:27,360
Speaker 1: like I love this dude in the six months later

2477
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:29,920
Speaker 1: be like yeah, so he said doctor Umar is right

2478
02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 1: about everything. Y'all just gonna love her like, oh Karen,

2479
02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:35,680
Speaker 1: But me, y'all gonna be like, cis heap black men?

2480
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:39,440
Speaker 1: Did they go again sticking together birds?

2481
02:06:39,560 --> 02:06:41,800
Speaker 7: Nope, because nobody knows I Claire.

2482
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be scared the internet niggas, especially when they

2483
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 1: real good at Internet. I'll be like a please be

2484
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:52,280
Speaker 1: a good person because people get this internet power, figure

2485
02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 1: out these algorithms and use it for bad all the time.

2486
02:06:54,760 --> 02:06:56,080
Speaker 2: Please stick to the good side.

2487
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:59,720
Speaker 6: Yes, they do, as long as he ain't talking about donations. Donations,

2488
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:01,960
Speaker 6: don't nations. I think it would be I I think

2489
02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:03,120
Speaker 6: it would be all right.

2490
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:05,600
Speaker 1: But everything I like that I've seen, from everything I've

2491
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:08,200
Speaker 1: seen from that Gris and Eggs podcast, I've liked me

2492
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:11,560
Speaker 1: the same. And I really love the way he's pushed

2493
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:14,720
Speaker 1: back against these people that are trying to you're pandering

2494
02:07:14,800 --> 02:07:16,720
Speaker 1: and all that shit. He's just kind of really seen

2495
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:20,400
Speaker 1: through that and been like, uh, then call me a

2496
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:21,680
Speaker 1: panderer or whatever.

2497
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:25,960
Speaker 6: Suck out, Yeah, because that's one thing. When something is

2498
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:29,400
Speaker 6: the truth, he can stand on his own and it

2499
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:32,160
Speaker 6: really doesn't care what you think about it, and you

2500
02:07:32,200 --> 02:07:35,080
Speaker 6: can say, well, you're this, you that if you're coasting

2501
02:07:35,240 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 6: enough to say, Okay, that's what I am. You taking

2502
02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:38,400
Speaker 6: the power away from that.

2503
02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:41,080
Speaker 1: Y'all need that more than me, right, y'all need me

2504
02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:43,280
Speaker 1: to be a pandora more than you need me to be.

2505
02:07:43,320 --> 02:07:45,880
Speaker 6: Real that's what it is, and to tell you the truth.

2506
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said when I said that thing, straight

2507
02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:51,360
Speaker 1: black man or the white people.

2508
02:07:51,560 --> 02:07:54,760
Speaker 2: D there were so many people accusing me of shit.

2509
02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:57,440
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I love being black, and I love

2510
02:07:57,520 --> 02:08:00,320
Speaker 1: black people and I love black men too. Like, don't

2511
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:03,440
Speaker 1: everything y'all saying about me is just untrue in a

2512
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:06,520
Speaker 1: way that can't hurt me, Like it can't hurt me

2513
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:08,680
Speaker 1: because I'm not who you think I am. I'm not.

2514
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't do a show where I need to pander

2515
02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:14,040
Speaker 1: to anybody like I'm just being myself.

2516
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:16,040
Speaker 2: Now, you might not like me, that's right.

2517
02:08:16,240 --> 02:08:18,440
Speaker 1: There's plenty of people that had conversations with that don't

2518
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:21,560
Speaker 1: arrive to the same conclusion as me. But you never

2519
02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:26,360
Speaker 1: have to protict you. You can convince yourself I'm fake. Fine,

2520
02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:29,520
Speaker 1: you might as well just say I'm stupid. I'd rather

2521
02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:32,440
Speaker 1: you just think I'm fucking stupid, because honestly, I'm not fake,

2522
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:36,160
Speaker 1: I really do. I'm just you Just then you just

2523
02:08:36,200 --> 02:08:37,960
Speaker 1: disagree and we just gonna have to leave it at

2524
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:43,000
Speaker 1: that because you still can't whoop my ass, Crystal says,

2525
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:47,720
Speaker 1: typing from the phone. Sorry for any grammar spelling mistakes.

2526
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:50,880
Speaker 1: Thank you for having the dermatologists on your show. It

2527
02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:52,880
Speaker 1: was so informed by eleven year old wants to be

2528
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:53,720
Speaker 1: a dermatallagist.

2529
02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 2: She has stated that since she was not that this

2530
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:56,760
Speaker 2: is her career path.

2531
02:08:57,080 --> 02:09:00,520
Speaker 1: She goes so far to watch medical youtubes and loves

2532
02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:02,760
Speaker 1: to buy skincats from Amazon.

2533
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:04,320
Speaker 2: That you can pretend to biopsy.

2534
02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:06,960
Speaker 1: So it was so exciting wow to hear from an

2535
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:09,680
Speaker 1: expert in the field. Her discussion about the difference in

2536
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:12,120
Speaker 1: African American skin really hit home. As someone who has

2537
02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:17,080
Speaker 1: several dermat dermatological conditions and biopsies that left scars. I

2538
02:09:17,120 --> 02:09:19,920
Speaker 1: wish more care went into this more. When my daughter

2539
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:23,440
Speaker 1: tells other adults her aspirations, either I am told, oh,

2540
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:25,960
Speaker 1: she'll probably change her mind, or I wanted to be

2541
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:29,720
Speaker 1: an astronaut, like it's some unobtainable goal, which really makes

2542
02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:31,520
Speaker 1: me mad because I don't know if they are saying

2543
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:34,200
Speaker 1: this because she's black, we live in a majority Caucasian area,

2544
02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:37,640
Speaker 1: or what, but it does anger me or I hear

2545
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:40,640
Speaker 1: how difficult and competitive the field is. I tell people

2546
02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:42,840
Speaker 1: from my career also in healthcare, I knew what I

2547
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:45,160
Speaker 1: wanted to do at the exact same age and made

2548
02:09:45,160 --> 02:09:47,960
Speaker 1: it happen, so I would never discount of child's goals.

2549
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:50,920
Speaker 1: Others are sending their kids to aeronautics camps and NASA

2550
02:09:50,960 --> 02:09:53,640
Speaker 1: Space camp every year because they want to be an engineer.

2551
02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:55,440
Speaker 1: But a child who says they want to be a

2552
02:09:55,560 --> 02:09:58,600
Speaker 1: doctor needs to be practical. Sorry for my rant, but

2553
02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:02,400
Speaker 1: it's very frustrating, especially when you have questions is it

2554
02:10:02,440 --> 02:10:04,800
Speaker 1: because we are black or do you genuinely believe kids

2555
02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:08,640
Speaker 1: say the darnest things. I had absolutely no idea. It

2556
02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 1: was one of the more difficult specialties to get into

2557
02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:14,480
Speaker 1: until other stated there's similar to doctment stuffians, which has

2558
02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 1: helped to shape and inspired whole generation. It's great to

2559
02:10:16,840 --> 02:10:19,680
Speaker 1: see representation to not only speak the unspoken things.

2560
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 2: Our skin is different and will look different.

2561
02:10:21,640 --> 02:10:26,120
Speaker 1: It's various conditions than the textbooks taught them, but help

2562
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:28,480
Speaker 1: to help to implement change. It's sad that some of

2563
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:30,800
Speaker 1: this isn't just playing common sense. Thank you Ryan and

2564
02:10:30,840 --> 02:10:32,280
Speaker 1: Karen again as always.

2565
02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:34,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and as a parent, I know that has got

2566
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:38,440
Speaker 6: to be very, very difficult, you know, because like you say,

2567
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:40,920
Speaker 6: for people who have these other dreams, like you said,

2568
02:10:40,920 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 6: they could send their children, Like if your child says

2569
02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:46,040
Speaker 6: and what it's like, is there something that children is

2570
02:10:46,040 --> 02:10:48,480
Speaker 6: there like a medical camp? You know what I'm saying,

2571
02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:50,240
Speaker 6: Like a lot of this shit. You almost have to

2572
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Speaker 6: wait until you get into the field. Like I don't

2573
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Speaker 6: know why when it comes to like the medical thing

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Speaker 6: that there isn't that you almost got to be like

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Speaker 6: a middle schooler or a high schooler, you know what

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02:10:59,120 --> 02:11:01,839
Speaker 6: I mean, to even be kind of introduced to things

2577
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:04,520
Speaker 6: similar to that where I sometimes I think they need

2578
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:06,680
Speaker 6: to have it a little younger where you can send

2579
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Speaker 6: them to it. It ain't got to be nothing deep, but

2580
02:11:09,160 --> 02:11:11,720
Speaker 6: you know, just have various different doctors to be like,

2581
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:13,120
Speaker 6: this is what I do for a living, this is

2582
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 6: what to break it down to whatever level, just so

2583
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:18,720
Speaker 6: your child can have a better understanding of these things.

2584
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:21,360
Speaker 6: And this is also what people dismiss the thoughts of

2585
02:11:21,480 --> 02:11:24,440
Speaker 6: children because you know what those other fields people are

2586
02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:26,640
Speaker 6: not try to find out. They assume that they're money makers.

2587
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Speaker 6: So I don't mind investing in my child now because

2588
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Speaker 6: I know eventually my child would make money later on

2589
02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:34,560
Speaker 6: versus a competitive feel why would you, you know, invest

2590
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Speaker 6: into doing that.

2591
02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:37,440
Speaker 7: You know there's no quote unquote money in that.

2592
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Speaker 6: And like you say, because we live in this country,

2593
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:42,360
Speaker 6: you go, well, are you also saying this because my

2594
02:11:42,440 --> 02:11:44,320
Speaker 6: child is black? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think that's definitely true, especially that part about are

2596
02:11:49,880 --> 02:11:52,640
Speaker 1: they just saying it because your child is black and

2597
02:11:52,720 --> 02:11:56,040
Speaker 1: they should and like this goal is too lofty. But honestly,

2598
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:58,120
Speaker 1: when people say stuff like that, a lot of times

2599
02:11:58,160 --> 02:12:00,280
Speaker 1: what they're letting you know is the limits of their

2600
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:04,160
Speaker 1: own imagination and the fears.

2601
02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:05,080
Speaker 2: That they have for themselves.

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02:12:05,200 --> 02:12:07,200
Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, even if your

2603
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:11,240
Speaker 1: daughter attempts this thing that she wants to do and

2604
02:12:12,040 --> 02:12:15,320
Speaker 1: gets down that road to some point, because you are requiring.

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02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 2: Twelve years of school and she's nine, so.

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02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:21,320
Speaker 1: It's twelve years plus how long to get out of

2607
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 1: high school? I can definitely see what people are trying

2608
02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:27,120
Speaker 1: to say with this idea of like, it's a child,

2609
02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:29,520
Speaker 1: and a child may change their mind, and because you

2610
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Speaker 1: were a mother who didn't change her mind and you're

2611
02:12:31,600 --> 02:12:34,880
Speaker 1: doing what you wanted to do, maybe they feel like, oh,

2612
02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:37,800
Speaker 1: I hope you're not gonna be disappointed in your daughter

2613
02:12:37,960 --> 02:12:40,120
Speaker 1: or hurt if your daughter doesn't make it. So it

2614
02:12:40,160 --> 02:12:42,920
Speaker 1: could be coming from a good place of like, hey,

2615
02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:45,240
Speaker 1: even if your daughter does change your mind, you know,

2616
02:12:45,400 --> 02:12:47,800
Speaker 1: kids change their minds and we still love them anyway.

2617
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:51,320
Speaker 1: My thing is I would assume that's the default that

2618
02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:54,440
Speaker 1: even if you're like, like, I don't know. Maybe that's

2619
02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:56,640
Speaker 1: because you're a black mama. They assuming different. I don't know,

2620
02:12:56,680 --> 02:12:59,120
Speaker 1: but I or maybe just parents get so caught up

2621
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:01,680
Speaker 1: in the hopes for that your children. Uh and it

2622
02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:05,960
Speaker 1: seems to partially reflect the job that you're the field

2623
02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 1: you're in. So maybe they're like, well, if your.

2624
02:13:08,440 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 2: Daughter don't do it, it's still okay.

2625
02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:13,360
Speaker 1: But I would just assume that, you know that, like,

2626
02:13:13,400 --> 02:13:15,640
Speaker 1: if your daughter doesn't do it, it'll be okay. Like

2627
02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:18,360
Speaker 1: why would you, Well, you're gonna be like I disown you.

2628
02:13:18,400 --> 02:13:20,840
Speaker 1: Get the fuck out, eleven year old? You fuck you

2629
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:22,600
Speaker 1: mean you want to be an astronaut? Now you know

2630
02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:24,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, so I'm assuming you'll be fine,

2631
02:13:26,120 --> 02:13:30,040
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, good good luck to her. And you know,

2632
02:13:30,160 --> 02:13:32,000
Speaker 1: that is a hell of a journey. And oh and

2633
02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:35,080
Speaker 1: the last thing also many of us experienced it. That's

2634
02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:37,680
Speaker 1: why because I definitely went to school to be a

2635
02:13:37,680 --> 02:13:39,800
Speaker 1: computer programmer and that is not what I do.

2636
02:13:40,400 --> 02:13:42,200
Speaker 2: Karen went to school and be a teacher. That is

2637
02:13:42,240 --> 02:13:43,040
Speaker 2: not what she does.

2638
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:45,720
Speaker 1: But my thing is like we'll get that when we

2639
02:13:45,760 --> 02:13:47,920
Speaker 1: get there, right, Like, why would I be telling you

2640
02:13:47,960 --> 02:13:49,920
Speaker 1: at nine, like, you know, when you get to school,

2641
02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:53,800
Speaker 1: you might change the like, hey, let the only thing

2642
02:13:53,800 --> 02:13:55,800
Speaker 1: I would do as a parent in that situation is

2643
02:13:55,880 --> 02:13:59,040
Speaker 1: let you know that you can do and be whatever

2644
02:13:59,080 --> 02:14:00,840
Speaker 1: you want to be as long as you put into

2645
02:14:00,880 --> 02:14:04,000
Speaker 1: work and I support I'm gonna support you and whenever

2646
02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:09,320
Speaker 1: if when you if you ever feel like changing your

2647
02:14:09,400 --> 02:14:13,480
Speaker 1: mind or something is disappointing or letting me down, you

2648
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Speaker 1: can't let me down.

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Speaker 6: Right, do it because it's what you want to do.

2650
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, as long as you are out here being

2651
02:14:19,920 --> 02:14:24,400
Speaker 1: a responsible person doing the right things, just understand, there's

2652
02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:26,360
Speaker 1: nothing you can do that will let me down.

2653
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:28,800
Speaker 2: Because I do think kids worry about that, and.

2654
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:32,480
Speaker 1: It's not always something parents put on them, but it's

2655
02:14:32,480 --> 02:14:35,160
Speaker 1: something that's good to have a parent that lets you

2656
02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:37,720
Speaker 1: know that it's that that burden isn't on you.

2657
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:41,280
Speaker 6: Sometimes need to be expressed because children kind of internalize

2658
02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 6: things like that, and sometimes parents don't.

2659
02:14:43,080 --> 02:14:45,720
Speaker 1: Realize, right, and they may feel like a pressure to

2660
02:14:45,840 --> 02:14:46,920
Speaker 1: not tell you.

2661
02:14:47,480 --> 02:14:48,960
Speaker 7: Like because they don't want to let you do.

2662
02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:51,920
Speaker 1: My mom was one of these people that knew what

2663
02:14:51,920 --> 02:14:54,040
Speaker 1: she wanted to do at a young age. And now

2664
02:14:54,120 --> 02:14:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm six years into this shit and I'm like, I

2665
02:14:56,880 --> 02:14:59,720
Speaker 1: actually don't want to do this right? And can I

2666
02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:02,680
Speaker 1: tell my mom that or she gonna be horribly disappointed

2667
02:15:02,720 --> 02:15:05,920
Speaker 1: that I did not live up to the same idea

2668
02:15:06,040 --> 02:15:09,040
Speaker 1: she set for herself. So maybe I'm trying to be

2669
02:15:09,080 --> 02:15:11,560
Speaker 1: as nice and kind to these people as I because

2670
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Speaker 1: it seemed like you were thinking of possibilities, and I'm saying,

2671
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Speaker 1: maybe there's some good intentions that aren't just like black dermatologist,

2672
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Speaker 1: Are you insane? Is that a nigga on a horse?

2673
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:23,160
Speaker 1: You know?

2674
02:15:23,520 --> 02:15:24,600
Speaker 7: What are you doing on the horse?

2675
02:15:24,760 --> 02:15:26,600
Speaker 2: So maybe it's like that, but I hope it's not

2676
02:15:26,680 --> 02:15:27,000
Speaker 2: all right.

2677
02:15:27,040 --> 02:15:27,200
Speaker 1: Same.

2678
02:15:27,600 --> 02:15:28,880
Speaker 2: That's it for today's show.

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Speaker 1: We have a guest for tomorrow's episode as well, is

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Speaker 1: an author, Rachel Loria. I hope I'm saying that correctly.

2681
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Speaker 1: We'll find out tomorrow for sure at two pm. She

2682
02:15:43,920 --> 02:15:46,200
Speaker 1: wrote a book about black capitalism, and y'all know we

2683
02:15:46,280 --> 02:15:48,520
Speaker 1: talk about that and we have a section segment on

2684
02:15:48,560 --> 02:15:49,400
Speaker 1: the show about.

2685
02:15:49,120 --> 02:15:51,160
Speaker 2: It, so be looking forward to talk to her.

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Speaker 1: And then later on this week on Tuesday, we have

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Speaker 1: Brandon Collins on the show from Drug Black History, So we'll.

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Speaker 2: Be talking to you guys soon. Until next time, I

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02:15:59,800 --> 02:15:59,920
Speaker 2: love

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Speaker 7: I love you, Ah