Speaker 1: Check it on man Now Down Now Thursday morning, September
Speaker 1: seams of Beating the Book podcast. It is the Megapod
Speaker 1: Skill Alexander Brand new season season number nine with an
Speaker 1: all new cast. By the way, Uh, for those who
Speaker 1: are looking for Marco and Ace, they have taken their
Speaker 1: talents to South Beach, So in case you missed the
Speaker 1: stuff on social media, they're doing their own thing. They
Speaker 1: have their own company and they wanted to do the
Speaker 1: podcast over there and I thought it was better for
Speaker 1: their brand, So that's where you can find them. I
Speaker 1: wish them all the best. However, I'm very excited to
Speaker 1: have these two gentlemen on the show this year. You
Speaker 1: may know them if you're a Visa listener. If you
Speaker 1: do not listen to Visa, perhaps you know one of
Speaker 1: these guys from the Showtime docuseries Action on my Left.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, the Great Todd wishing of hello to
Speaker 1: thank you for doing this. It's my pleasure Gil obviously. Um,
Speaker 1: you know this is a nice little thing that came
Speaker 1: out of the Gill and Todd Show onst So the
Speaker 1: Gill and Todd Show not actually a thing and all
Speaker 1: my right. Uh. He is the conciliary to Derek Stevens.
Speaker 1: Over at Circus Sports, they're running a phenomenal football handicapping
Speaker 1: contest which actually has some application to something very timely
Speaker 1: in the news right now, which we'll get into momentarily.
Speaker 1: What is your exact title over at Circle, Mike Well,
Speaker 1: the exact title is Vice President of Operations, Vice President
Speaker 1: of Operations. Over there at Circuits Sports they run the
Speaker 1: d Golden Gate and of course the brand new Circuit
Speaker 1: Casino which is set to open late twenty with a
Speaker 1: brand new UH Spanking News sports book in Circle A
Speaker 1: Shangri lav Sports Books in December of Mike Palm pump
Speaker 1: that you can join us before we get into anything, guys,
Speaker 1: This Antonio Open Brown news is happening right now as
Speaker 1: we're recording this podcast. Adam Schefter reporting on his Twitter
Speaker 1: that this has gotten ugly all of a sudden between
Speaker 1: the Raiders and Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown clearly not the
Speaker 1: brightest bulb. Antonio Brown posted the fine letter he got fined,
Speaker 1: posted that fine letter on social media that Raiders GM
Speaker 1: Mike Mayock sent him. It led to an exchange. We're
Speaker 1: not sure how physical it got, but it's now leading
Speaker 1: to further discipline. Adam Schefter says it's not going away
Speaker 1: anytime soon, and he goes on to say now and
Speaker 1: this is the tweet that really gets everybody. This is
Speaker 1: his latest tweet. There are those around the league who
Speaker 1: now believe the Raiders could suspend Antonio Brown with the
Speaker 1: idea of trying to avoid the thirty point one to
Speaker 1: five million dollars of guaranteed money in his contract, which
Speaker 1: obviously would end his time in Oakland before it even begins. Wow,
Speaker 1: Oakland and Denver of course in a virtual pick him
Speaker 1: of a game. Well, actually Denver by two and a half. Now,
Speaker 1: the one thing I want to relate this to the
Speaker 1: circuit contest, Mike go real quick off the bat. Here's
Speaker 1: the difference between other contests like the Westgate that post
Speaker 1: their lines on Wednesday afternoon. You don't post him till Thursday.
Speaker 1: Already a more accurate line per HAPs from you guys
Speaker 1: now because of this. Yeah, we we went all the
Speaker 1: way from from Raiders one going to pose Raiders one
Speaker 1: uh to Broncos two and a half for the contest.
Speaker 1: So we we you know, we supposed that the difference
Speaker 1: between Wednesday afternoon Thursday morning might come into play several
Speaker 1: times during the year. Well with this bombshell, it already
Speaker 1: is a big factor in week one. It's amazing that
Speaker 1: it's happened at week one. All right, gentlemen, you guys
Speaker 1: ready to do this? The new podcast cast gives us
Speaker 1: an opportunity to do a new format also on the show,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do this a little differently. And for
Speaker 1: those wondering, are we're gonna have a rotating guest on
Speaker 1: some weeks, Yes, we absolutely will. We will have that
Speaker 1: as well. Last thing about the Raiders. John Pruten was
Speaker 1: just heard saying, man, we're gonna run the whist bone
Speaker 1: we lost for best receiver knocked on wood if you're
Speaker 1: with me, which got very tiring on Hard Knocks this year.
Speaker 1: By the way, it was the worst season of Hard
Speaker 1: Knocks ever. Can we just establish that was the worst
Speaker 1: thing ever? Episode five with a whimper, that's how it
Speaker 1: went out. Let's begin first before we get into your
Speaker 1: best best of the week. Thursday night for ball Green
Speaker 1: Bay at Chicago. This line was about four most of
Speaker 1: the summer in Chicago by three in this ballgame, do
Speaker 1: either of you have any preflop play on this ball game,
Speaker 1: either side or total. Mike, start with you. I do I.
Speaker 1: I played the first half under twenty three. I sat
Speaker 1: here thinking about this game for the last few weeks,
Speaker 1: thinking if I was going to take the Bears if
Speaker 1: it came down to three. But I just think I'll
Speaker 1: tell you one for Gil and Todd. I'm not impressed
Speaker 1: with the body of work of Fleur. I mean, I
Speaker 1: still can't get over that game at home against Baltimore
Speaker 1: last year where they went one for ten on third downs.
Speaker 1: Now you couple that with Rogers, who has to put
Speaker 1: in a new system for the first time in thirteen years, UM,
Speaker 1: very little reps for the first team offense in the preseason. UM.
Speaker 1: And combine that with the fact that the Bears are
Speaker 1: one of the worst teams in explosive plays of twenty
Speaker 1: yards or more. I think you might see a slow
Speaker 1: start to this game. So I thought, I usually try
Speaker 1: to make a total on every game. I put this
Speaker 1: total right around forty two and a half forty three,
Speaker 1: So I think there's some value trying to go under
Speaker 1: twenty three in the first half. I think we might
Speaker 1: get a couple stale series right off the bat. I
Speaker 1: like that, By the way, game total forty six and
Speaker 1: a half. Just to clarify, but Mike making a play
Speaker 1: on the first half under uh, Todd, anything for you?
Speaker 1: And when I say it's three points, by the way,
Speaker 1: it's three with extra juice. Consensus about minus one minus juice.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much what it is across the board. Anything
Speaker 1: for you, Todd. I strong lean if it's minus three.
Speaker 1: They're basically saying that the Bears and the Packers are
Speaker 1: even teams, and the home field advantages three and soldier field,
Speaker 1: and I see how the Bears and the Packers are
Speaker 1: equal teams. Just look at last year. Because I know
Speaker 1: it's Aaron Rodgers, and I know it's scary to lay
Speaker 1: points against Aaron Rodgers, but um, if anything, I would
Speaker 1: lean to the Bears minus three. Let us begin with Sunday.
Speaker 1: By the way, I have no play whatsoever. Thanks for asking, guys.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it that you care so deeply. I have no
Speaker 1: play on this game. I'm gonna end game. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: watch it, and uh, perhaps bet while it's going on.
Speaker 1: As far as the rest of the weekend is concerned,
Speaker 1: let's do our best bets. We do have the final
Speaker 1: two questions that we always have coming up at the
Speaker 1: end of the show, we have our teaser of the
Speaker 1: week coming up as well, But let's just do best bets. Mike,
Speaker 1: we start with you your single best bet of the weekend, Sir.
Speaker 1: I like the Giants catching a touchdown at at Jerry
Speaker 1: World Is. I think this is going to be an
Speaker 1: improved version of the Giants um Ezekiel hold out, I
Speaker 1: think may have an effect on the Cowboys, and I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that that that this Cowboys team, although the
Speaker 1: offensive line should be better this year, is that markedly
Speaker 1: much better in a division game. It's really hard to
Speaker 1: lay a touchdown in a division game. And I think
Speaker 1: the Giants here are actually a team that's uh that
Speaker 1: could could could stay in this game late and have
Speaker 1: a chance at an upset if you look at the
Speaker 1: history of the series as well, and just take a
Speaker 1: look at the time since it's been Dack versus Eli,
Speaker 1: the Giants have traditionally played the Cowboys close, even in
Speaker 1: these opening games, which are usually a Texas stadium. So
Speaker 1: I grabbed up the seven here with the g Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you can find some seven and a half's out
Speaker 1: there as well, Like seven and a hook is pretty
Speaker 1: rampidtly available plus seven and a half minus one, ten's
Speaker 1: out there some minus one fifteen. I'm kind of with
Speaker 1: you there, as as barish as I am on the Giants.
Speaker 1: They might not be that bad. This is one of
Speaker 1: these NFC East games where in past years this would
Speaker 1: be an automatic three on the line. Such a poor
Speaker 1: opinion folks have of the Giants that you're catching seven
Speaker 1: or seven and a half. Let's put it this way.
Speaker 1: I would not rush to lay the points with the Cowboys. Todd,
Speaker 1: what is your best bet this week? But I would
Speaker 1: agree with you. How can you lay seven alf the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: They're not a team anyways that that wins by margins.
Speaker 1: They run too much to win by a big margin.
Speaker 1: But the best bet that I have is the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titans plus five and a half. I know there's all
Speaker 1: the Browns hype. I know the Browns up, you know,
Speaker 1: basically twenty two Hall of Fame or starting on offensive
Speaker 1: here and coming of Jesus and Baker may feel at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, but I just don't buy it until
Speaker 1: I see it. Freddie Kitchens is the Coats. What do
Speaker 1: we know about Freddie Kitchen? Nothing? Zero point zero do
Speaker 1: we know about Freddie Kitchen, so I am not buying it.
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans are well coached. They won some games
Speaker 1: on the road last year, including a game at Dallas.
Speaker 1: I can remember. They usually keep you in the game.
Speaker 1: Their defensive kind of team team they don't you know.
Speaker 1: It's not a light them up, you know, crazy four
Speaker 1: board type of game, so it could easily be a
Speaker 1: tight game. I like the Tennessee Tits, like the Tennessee
Speaker 1: plus five and a half my best bet. And again
Speaker 1: we'll we'll keep track of these for the for the
Speaker 1: duration of the year. That should be fun. I'm sure
Speaker 1: we won't hear the end of that if it goes
Speaker 1: bad or or or if it goes good for Todd,
Speaker 1: that's true, that would be the other scenario. I gets
Speaker 1: to take shots me and say that I won't hear
Speaker 1: the end of it. Meanwhile, he starts winningning he gets
Speaker 1: his whole like clan palm readers or whoever else clan
Speaker 1: that he's got. It'll talk him up. Let me just
Speaker 1: tell everybody right now, Todd is in l A for
Speaker 1: this particular episode. Todd's audio will be better from here
Speaker 1: on out. I just want to point that outside any
Speaker 1: better right now? Yeah, a little better right there? I think,
Speaker 1: all right, my my best bet. I'm actually taking the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals plus the nine and a half against the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. I get it, Seattle's got Jadeveon Clowney Seattle,
Speaker 1: known for fine prowess at home in Seattle. But I
Speaker 1: don't get nine and a half here at all with
Speaker 1: no real weapons, now that Doug Baldwin has left no
Speaker 1: real weapons on the outside, that we can really be
Speaker 1: truly fearful of Tyler Lockett, good ball player, but I
Speaker 1: don't know that without Baldwin to sort of take away
Speaker 1: attention from him, I'm not sure. That's the thing we
Speaker 1: don't know about DK mccalf. We don't know what's happening
Speaker 1: there with his weapons. I don't know that they can
Speaker 1: score enough points to cover nine and a half that easily.
Speaker 1: And I actually think Joe Mixing and crew do some
Speaker 1: things on offense even without a j Green. Give me
Speaker 1: the nine and a half points site unseen on these
Speaker 1: two teams. Like I get the Eagles being ten point
Speaker 1: favorites against the Redskins. That's a lot of points. But
Speaker 1: I think the Redskins are are really bad at football.
Speaker 1: I don't know that we know this about the Bengals yet,
Speaker 1: so I'll take the nine and a half as just
Speaker 1: a first salvo of the season. And again these are
Speaker 1: all site unseen obviously, but give me the nine and
Speaker 1: a half. I don't know how you guys feel about that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because I'm sorry Todd. You know
Speaker 1: it's hard enough looking at you, being next to you
Speaker 1: and looking at you and being able to speak now
Speaker 1: when we're in different places is what more. But it's interesting, Gil,
Speaker 1: because the guy was that for me or for Todd today.
Speaker 1: It's also your experience with him as well, and in
Speaker 1: fact you've already started talking. But um, the boys that
Speaker 1: Circuits Sports made this eight and a half on the
Speaker 1: cod test. I thought that was pretty interesting. Obviously they
Speaker 1: shade the game the way you do, Gil, Yeah, so interesting,
Speaker 1: so they shade eight and a half? Interesting? How so
Speaker 1: your lines on in the contest now now in the
Speaker 1: sports book? Is it also eight and a half in
Speaker 1: the sports book right now? The last I looked at
Speaker 1: was nine, But they may be anticipating it goes to
Speaker 1: eight and a half. Obviously, these contest lines are also
Speaker 1: an anticipation of where where the live line is going
Speaker 1: to end up, absolutely, because they're static and so you
Speaker 1: have to have some sort of anticipation on it. By
Speaker 1: the way, I just want to I just wanna say
Speaker 1: that I agree with you on that since it was
Speaker 1: almost my best bet of the week. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: if it's your second or third, well we'll hear about it. Two.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like the consensus Mike number two
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, maybe this is a square play, but
Speaker 1: I I at the Lions. I liked the two and
Speaker 1: a half. I wish I'd got in it earlier, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to wait for it to get to
Speaker 1: three because it's going to three. Um. I just think
Speaker 1: that this Cardinals team and Cliff Klingsbury way over his head, Um,
Speaker 1: this is a great spot for the lines. I think
Speaker 1: going down there Arizona's defense. As much as we want
Speaker 1: to talk about kings Burry in the offense and Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: take a look at that defense that that defense is putred.
Speaker 1: I think the Lions will have their best rushing attack
Speaker 1: that they've had in years, and I look for the
Speaker 1: Lions to be able to control the ball here and
Speaker 1: when this game pretty comfortably on the road. So my
Speaker 1: second best bet is the Detroit Lions laying two and
Speaker 1: a half. Let me ask you, when you saw Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: and I know it was against Houston. Houston is awful
Speaker 1: on defense, But when you saw Jalen Hurts put up
Speaker 1: Techmobile numbers in Oklahoma's opener against Houston, was there a
Speaker 1: little part of you that thought about Kyler Murray and
Speaker 1: that sort of said to yourself, I know, Kyler's fun
Speaker 1: and he had a great year, and he was and
Speaker 1: he was absolutely tremendous, But did it minimize him at
Speaker 1: all for you? That you can now firmly establish from
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield to Kyler Murray to perhaps even Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: who we've never seen do this at Alabama right, that
Speaker 1: maybe the Cardinals did not make the right pick with
Speaker 1: the first pick of the draft. It actually you you
Speaker 1: bring up a point that I thought about because I
Speaker 1: had a strong feeling going into that Sunday night game
Speaker 1: that that Hurts was not going to be able to
Speaker 1: adapt to this system just because of the way Saban
Speaker 1: plays is compared to to Oklahoma and not in a
Speaker 1: hurry up and straight ahead running and dropped back, and boy,
Speaker 1: he just picked up like like where Murray left off.
Speaker 1: And so it does sort of diminish what Murray did
Speaker 1: if anybody can step into it, especially somebody that spent
Speaker 1: two years being successful in a totally polar opposite system. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it definitely, at the very least, I think it was
Speaker 1: valid that the thought comes up, and we'll see if
Speaker 1: it happens. You're taken Detroit laying the two and a half.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's square. By the way, where did
Speaker 1: you hear my next pig? Now this is this is
Speaker 1: super square coming up, ladies and gentlemen once again. Todd
Speaker 1: wishnev the star, the bona fide star of Showtime's docuseries Action. Todd,
Speaker 1: by the way, for those who don't know, you were
Speaker 1: the lovable character on Showtimes docuseries Action, you were made
Speaker 1: to look like the everyman that you were just this
Speaker 1: guy in a casino who hangs out every day. By
Speaker 1: the way, that parts true, but that you really didn't
Speaker 1: know what you were doing so much, but fair to
Speaker 1: say that in real life, and I think you display
Speaker 1: this on visa and all the time, that you are
Speaker 1: not only smarter than you were portrayed as but you're
Speaker 1: the smartest guy in the room at all times. Well,
Speaker 1: if I'm not in the room with Mike Palm, he
Speaker 1: may not be the smartest, but he's always the most cerebral.
Speaker 1: That's very we We were doing a lot of inside
Speaker 1: jokes folks for people who listened to the visas and
Speaker 1: uh Gil and Todd show. When I'm on Gil's show, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we have a whole football coach who's very
Speaker 1: physical out there, and you know he's not very cerebral,
Speaker 1: but he's very physical. So anyways, knock on wood if
Speaker 1: you're with me, man, uh, let me just say I can't.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna be able to stop saying
Speaker 1: that all year. Um. Yeah, we won't get tired of
Speaker 1: that or anything. The different for Mr for miniature Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray is that on the team that he's gonna be on,
Speaker 1: I don't believe they play with an offensive line. And
Speaker 1: on the team that he was on last year, Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: they have a huge offensive line. That could be a
Speaker 1: slight difference. I think that both of you guys are
Speaker 1: are making the point on um, Oklahoma is almost plug
Speaker 1: and play when you got those big hawses up in front.
Speaker 1: I think me or Mike could even throw two yards.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like ridiculous. Um. But anyways, back you
Speaker 1: were asking me about the second best bet. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go because you already used since you can,
Speaker 1: you can totally use ones that other people have used.
Speaker 1: I want your authentic three best bets. I'm I'm on.
Speaker 1: I'm on the fence on these. I'm gonna do something
Speaker 1: crazy here and I'm gonna go with ten fits magic
Speaker 1: and you're gonna say you and seen are you crazy?
Speaker 1: And yeah, I guess I'm crazy. But let's let's remember
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick's usual old pattern. He goes to a new team,
Speaker 1: he plays really well, and then inevitably the three and
Speaker 1: four interception games start. So what if he has the
Speaker 1: same pattern in Miami and Miami's not horrible, I guess
Speaker 1: on defense, and maybe they can stay in the game.
Speaker 1: They've had a whole offseason to watch the Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: ship on tape, so they could probably you know, get get,
Speaker 1: you know, school them up or coach them up on
Speaker 1: that whole deal. Baltimore is not exactly a team that
Speaker 1: wins by a million anyway. Ways, and in the NFL,
Speaker 1: six points is a lot of points. So I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be crazy here. As long as Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: is not in the game, I'm gonna go with Miami
Speaker 1: plus two six. You hate Josh Rosen, You hate him
Speaker 1: like he's thrown too many bad interceptions. Good fellow tribesman
Speaker 1: on the leaflet, Josh Rosen, you hate him? Plus six
Speaker 1: and a half? Home dog? You do? You will not
Speaker 1: go broke betting home dogs. I I do not hate
Speaker 1: that pick. By the way, I do not hate that
Speaker 1: catching six and a half at home for the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: whose season win total is four and a half. How
Speaker 1: many times have we seen fits Magic play well for
Speaker 1: a game or two or even three well. Famously with
Speaker 1: the Bucks, he had a ridiculous September right he was tremendous,
Speaker 1: filling for four yards every week, seemingly. So we'll see
Speaker 1: if that's the case of Miami, who just there were
Speaker 1: four and oh with the Buffalo Bills one year. Remember
Speaker 1: that I do not, but I thank you for reminding
Speaker 1: me that is correct. He was four an o with
Speaker 1: the Bills. They just traded their starting left tackle, Laramie Tunzell,
Speaker 1: their number one wide out, and Kenny Stills, so this
Speaker 1: should be interesting, let's put it that way. My my
Speaker 1: second pick is, uh, if we're using the word square,
Speaker 1: this is about as square as it gets. And this
Speaker 1: is this is like malpractice because this line is only increased.
Speaker 1: So we're doing this Thursday morning before the game. Philadelphia
Speaker 1: is giving ten now to the Washington Redskins. I'm giving it.
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a lifelong Washington Redskins fan. They are
Speaker 1: not going to be good at football this year. They
Speaker 1: have a credible defense. The goal for the Redskins defense
Speaker 1: is to hold the opponent to seventeen points and hope
Speaker 1: that they're offkins their offense overcome it. I think the
Speaker 1: Eagles are going to the super Bowl. I think Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz is going to have a major bounce back season.
Speaker 1: I just think they're a better football team up and
Speaker 1: down than the Redskins. I will give the ten points.
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles blow out the Redskins in Philly
Speaker 1: on Sunday. How about them apples right there? I might
Speaker 1: mention that game as well. When we get to the teasers,
Speaker 1: gill oh, I like that all right? Um, I want
Speaker 1: to ask you a question, Gil, in reference to Todd's
Speaker 1: Dolphins play do Youth. Do you think that the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are intentionally tanking? Yes, by if people have trouble with
Speaker 1: the word tanking, so let me define what I mean
Speaker 1: by that. I think they're absolutely tanking based on what
Speaker 1: my definition is of the word tanking, which is not
Speaker 1: a bad word, by the way. So I think they
Speaker 1: are intentionally doing a Houston Astro Chicago Cubs thing right
Speaker 1: where they're stripping it down. They are going to go
Speaker 1: with youth and low cost and then they're gonna try
Speaker 1: to build it up. So if that's the definition of
Speaker 1: modern day tanking and respect, then I believe they absolutely are.
Speaker 1: You I don't understand if they're going to do that,
Speaker 1: why they don't play Rosen. I agree, you're trying. If
Speaker 1: you're trying to build a team for three years from now,
Speaker 1: then once you want to get this kid the work
Speaker 1: over that stretch, I would think. So that's where it
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me agree with that, by the way,
Speaker 1: and you know who else, I don't understand why they're
Speaker 1: not playing the rookie quarterback. Why are the Giants bothering
Speaker 1: playing Eli Manning at all, what's that? Like? What is
Speaker 1: what's the point of that? And I think Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: for all the uh the crap that he got for
Speaker 1: the Giants drafting him so early, none of that. And
Speaker 1: I tried to point this out on a numbers game
Speaker 1: at Visa seven and nine Pacific tend to down Eastern
Speaker 1: Money through Friday, serious sex and Channel two four uh
Speaker 1: that that. I think the criticism of Daniel Jones is
Speaker 1: ill found it because none of us know how good
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna be. And by the way, my
Speaker 1: buddy e most successful sports better. I know he loved
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones senior year. In fact, he said, besides Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: that's the best quarterback in the league or in college.
Speaker 1: Excuse me. We can criticize the Giant for when they
Speaker 1: drafted him, because the draft is a game after all.
Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't play the game correctly, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: a referendum on Daniel Jones. I don't understand why the
Speaker 1: Giants don't play Hi from the beginning. I agree with
Speaker 1: you there, and I go back to when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: drafted Akman. I mean they put him in there and
Speaker 1: let him take his lumps on and one in fifteen year.
Speaker 1: I mean, were they going to try to protect him
Speaker 1: and stay with Steve Tulure or the guys like that,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean you have to you have to
Speaker 1: let him get in there and play and learn the game,
Speaker 1: learned the NFL game and the speed that it's at
Speaker 1: in the complexity of the Are you talking about Steve Burlin? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Steve Walsh was also on that roster then, wasn't he.
Speaker 1: There were many Steves that were backup quarterman. He was
Speaker 1: talking about Steve Burlin anyways, trying to get the Notre
Speaker 1: Dame guys in Do you know who the Cowboys beat
Speaker 1: that year? Yes? The Washington Redskins on a Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Doug Williams by the way, talking about the young quarterback.
Speaker 1: If I could bet at circa a future who will
Speaker 1: have the better career and we can come up with
Speaker 1: some metric on careers, but I will take Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: minus one thirty five over Josh Rosen all day long.
Speaker 1: You're you're such an anti semit side. What is going
Speaker 1: on with you with Courter? Ever since Mike WERKOVICI did
Speaker 1: it to me in the Holme Kipper Master and that
Speaker 1: you didn't you didn't even know he was Jewish? Then
Speaker 1: that's right. That shows that just shows you how how
Speaker 1: how powerful it is. Well, we'll have to tell the
Speaker 1: youme Kipper massacre story on a subsequent podcast. You can
Speaker 1: also get it on on my pin tweet at my Twitter.
Speaker 1: On my first appearance on GIL, I told funny gambling
Speaker 1: stories Kipper massacre from people Single Love? Is it Mike's
Speaker 1: turn again? Last best bet? Mike, Wow, I gotta have
Speaker 1: three best bets. That's how unbelievable. I'm a little more
Speaker 1: just you don't have to if you don't. If if
Speaker 1: two is where you want to end it, we can
Speaker 1: do too. We're just you know, I don't know where
Speaker 1: this line is going to end up, but it seems
Speaker 1: seemingly keep keep going down, keeps going down. Um. I
Speaker 1: know Michael Lombardi talked about the humidity and and I
Speaker 1: know there's concerns about the surrounding circumstances with the hurricane.
Speaker 1: But boy, I think I think the Chiefs are just
Speaker 1: a lot better side here and are gonna still put
Speaker 1: up put up points when they go down to Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: So this number creeps down closer to three. I think
Speaker 1: this game is worth a play if it gets to three. Um.
Speaker 1: With the Chiefs on the road there, I see some
Speaker 1: threes out there in uh some offshore bookmaker five times
Speaker 1: three with extra juice. Um. So it is available to
Speaker 1: some on Kansas City, but it is down there. Did
Speaker 1: you know this? This Jaguarar team was so injured and
Speaker 1: banged up and didn't really get to play, get to
Speaker 1: play together. And Maron said, I'm not playing anybody in
Speaker 1: the preseason because everybody's hurt, so they've had no reps together. Um,
Speaker 1: And I just think the Chiefs are the spot here.
Speaker 1: I know I didn't. I didn't really like to lay
Speaker 1: five five and a half, but as this number has
Speaker 1: come down, I'll lay three when I can get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't hate it. I really don't. Todd
Speaker 1: number three. Am I allowed to do a total or
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be Yeah, no, you can do a total.
Speaker 1: Do whatever you want, man. I think that the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots versus the Pittsburgh Stiller's is a great under. Um.
Speaker 1: If you remember they played under fifty. The New England
Speaker 1: Patriots really turned into a different kind of team late
Speaker 1: in the season last year, kind of became ground and
Speaker 1: pound and play good defense. I think people are sleeping
Speaker 1: on the fact that the Patriots defense is a lot
Speaker 1: better from the end of last season. Now I could
Speaker 1: be totally wrong on this, and the Patriots could do
Speaker 1: their usual first four games where they go to and
Speaker 1: two and lose by thirty to some ridiculous club from Detroit.
Speaker 1: That could happen, as it's happened in many Super Bowl
Speaker 1: years for the Patriots. But with that being said, I
Speaker 1: kind of like the under here. I think the Steelers
Speaker 1: are gonna run the ball. I think the Patriots defense
Speaker 1: is a lot better. I think the Steelers defense is
Speaker 1: going to be better with Bush from uh with Bush
Speaker 1: from Michigan, I think under fifty is probably not a
Speaker 1: bad play. You know. I used to work with twin
Speaker 1: brothers at a startup in San Francisco, and every once
Speaker 1: in a while they would come into work and purposely
Speaker 1: mispronounced words and act like they had pronounced it that
Speaker 1: way the whole time. Patriots was one of those words
Speaker 1: that they once came in and mispronounced. One day, I
Speaker 1: was like, why are you guys naming Patriots? They're like,
Speaker 1: what are you meaning? Reggae was another one that leaps
Speaker 1: to mind the music genre reggae. Reggae, I will do it.
Speaker 1: I will have a correlated play to yours as my
Speaker 1: number three. By the way, Mr Wishnep, I am taking
Speaker 1: the Steelers plus the points. You like the under I'll
Speaker 1: take the Steelers plus the points in that six points
Speaker 1: is a lot. And I, by the way, I have
Speaker 1: bet Big Ben to win the m v P this
Speaker 1: year at one. I think with the absence of the
Speaker 1: now fully exposed headcase that is Antonio Brown, with the
Speaker 1: absence of Levon Bell, I think Ben is on a mission.
Speaker 1: I still think he has great weapons and James Connor
Speaker 1: and Juju, and I think James Washington is gonna be
Speaker 1: a great weapon this year. Uh, in his first real
Speaker 1: season playing meaningful minutes with the Steelers. Give me the
Speaker 1: six points all day long. I will take six Sunday night.
Speaker 1: I think this game is close and that six is
Speaker 1: a gift. So Steelers plus six that would be uh
Speaker 1: my third best bet. So someone out there will keep
Speaker 1: track of this. We will keep track of it as well.
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Speaker 1: final two questions. Mike Circus Sports Million update for those
Speaker 1: who still have to sign up. So we we we
Speaker 1: crossed over the magical threshold of fifteen hundred to eliminate
Speaker 1: the overlay, and now everything gets plowed back into the
Speaker 1: quarterly winners. For those not familiar, there's really five contest
Speaker 1: for mini contest within a contest, the best record each month,
Speaker 1: which is the four weeks in September, four weeks in October,
Speaker 1: four weeks, November in the five weeks, and December was
Speaker 1: guaranteed fifty thousand. Well, now all these additional entries beyond
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred go back into there. As of ten am
Speaker 1: this morning, we were at one thousand, five hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty four. I think we'll cross sixteen hundred today and
Speaker 1: I'm very sure that we're gonna get to seventeen hundred.
Speaker 1: I've sort of said that as a magical number because
Speaker 1: if you get two hundred above the minimum, that adds
Speaker 1: an extra two hundred thousand to the quarters and split.
Speaker 1: Now the quarters suddenly become a hundred thousand minimum instead
Speaker 1: of fifty thousand. So I'm pretty confident. I think tomorrow
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Speaker 1: We can make our picks weekly via the app, which
Speaker 1: is just such a huge thing. Now. Paully Howard, as
Speaker 1: soon as the lines came out at ten am, he's
Speaker 1: sitting here at Long Bar. He just put his five
Speaker 1: picks in. Boom boom, boom, boom boom. He's in nice
Speaker 1: Polly Howard part of the Bitch and Paul follow the
Speaker 1: Money Show at Visa as well. Todd, you were saying something, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the reason I did that the Circle this year was
Speaker 1: because of the quarterly contest. I think it's the most
Speaker 1: I think it's the best innovation in the contest is
Speaker 1: the quarterly. And if you get a hundred thousand for
Speaker 1: each quarterly, I mean that's fantastic. Now I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna assume if two guys go seventeen and three, they
Speaker 1: each get fifty out of the hundred. Is that I
Speaker 1: just break up, you know, split evenly. I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: what if eight guys go eighteen and two, then we're
Speaker 1: gonna split a hundred thousand and eight ways, twelve five
Speaker 1: each exactly for the million itself for the top price
Speaker 1: for the contest, though there's like forty eight tiebreakers. We
Speaker 1: want one person to win the contest and win the
Speaker 1: whole million. What's the forty what's tiebreaker? By the way,
Speaker 1: how close you came to your actual jacket side. That's
Speaker 1: a great one. Wow. I hope somebody wins on that.
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard for a guy like Todd who's
Speaker 1: losing so rapidly. Yeah, I'm gonna lose that one. Todd
Speaker 1: wishnev losing losing ridiculous amounts of pounds and is he
Speaker 1: will tell you more importantly, his blood sugar level dipping
Speaker 1: you are you are now south of three hundred pounds not?
Speaker 1: Is that right? I'm about two nine three h point
Speaker 1: of reference, I was three thirty three in the action
Speaker 1: Showtime series when you saw my large belly hanging over
Speaker 1: my shorts. One other quick point to mention is you
Speaker 1: called me anti Semitic when you said, uh, I talking
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks. But it's obviously not true, certainly when you
Speaker 1: talk about receivers, because you talked about my favorite jew,
Speaker 1: double jew jew Smith Schuster as a wide receiver. I
Speaker 1: love them. So I may be anti Semitic towards quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: but I love Jewish wide receiver. Yes, for those who
Speaker 1: don't know, Todd By the Way was once an Orthodox Jew.
Speaker 1: Uh so we are. I want people to understand that
Speaker 1: we're not making making serious one of this and now
Speaker 1: you are a renounce to jew that's what you call yourself. Correct. Yes,
Speaker 1: we don't have enough time to go into that right now.
Speaker 1: Different show, whole, different show. We supposed, Gail, we tried
Speaker 1: to suppose what record would it take, yes to win
Speaker 1: the first like to win September. Come up with a
Speaker 1: number I said, I said, eighteen one and one would
Speaker 1: win it. Man eight if eighteen and one, If eighteen
Speaker 1: and two wins that I was right, eighteen eighteen one
Speaker 1: and one would have won it. But I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be right around eighteen or seventeen is probably going
Speaker 1: to be the magic numbers to get there. And starting
Speaker 1: like the uh the after two weeks at each month,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll start talking about who who's within range. You know,
Speaker 1: who's in the top top thirty that month or top
Speaker 1: fifty that's within a game or two, and it gets
Speaker 1: pretty interesting. You know, there's actually like four races to
Speaker 1: to the winner circle in this contest, and that's that's
Speaker 1: also interesting because you're gonna have to play a game
Speaker 1: theory on the quarterlies while you're is still in the
Speaker 1: main contest. So it brings a lot of interesting strategy
Speaker 1: to what was actually talking about game strategy today. It
Speaker 1: was on the Gil Alexander's show, also called The Numbers
Speaker 1: Game on Visa and Channels four, sometimes also called The
Speaker 1: Gill and Codd Show. But that show he was talking
Speaker 1: about the game theory at the end of the contest,
Speaker 1: where people who are behind by a game or two
Speaker 1: have to try to figure out who the people in
Speaker 1: front of them are gonna take, so they take the
Speaker 1: other side and they have a chance to pick up
Speaker 1: a game, because if they both end up on the
Speaker 1: same side, they can't end up picking up any games.
Speaker 1: And if you're this this contest with the quarterly, let's
Speaker 1: say you're let's say you're fifteen and one going into
Speaker 1: a quarterly, you might have to do some game theory
Speaker 1: even though it's only week four or week eight or
Speaker 1: week twelve, for for example. It's a great point I
Speaker 1: had not. I had actually not thought of that. That's
Speaker 1: a little thing. Yeah, it's a little bit like if
Speaker 1: you have a full game bet and you have a
Speaker 1: halftime as well, and you're trying to use in game
Speaker 1: strategy on your halftime and your and your full game
Speaker 1: or first five in full game in baseball. I've had
Speaker 1: to do this, and it's interesting where you don't want
Speaker 1: to put yourself in a pickle. Mike Palm was talking
Speaker 1: about what it would take to win the quarterlies. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously on a short sample size, you're gonna need seventeen
Speaker 1: eighteen wins to win the quarter but to win the
Speaker 1: whole thing, I think you're gonna need somewhere in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood of seventy. And I'm saying that based on what's
Speaker 1: happened in the past in the Super Bowl, as they've
Speaker 1: had more and more contestants, you've needed a higher and
Speaker 1: higher percentage. But since you guys are going to be
Speaker 1: in about seventeen hundred this year, I'm thinking seventies might
Speaker 1: win the whole thing. Mike, what do you think about that?
Speaker 1: I put that that's somebody asked me, and I said,
Speaker 1: I think if you can get to seventy one percent,
Speaker 1: you've got a real good shot to win it, or
Speaker 1: at least be in the top five. I think seventy
Speaker 1: percent is the threshold right now. I always like to say,
Speaker 1: if you're not even at sixty percent, you shouldn't even
Speaker 1: be discussing where you are in the standings. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a year every few years where it's just a
Speaker 1: tough year and somebody wins at sixty So the uh
Speaker 1: the Starbucks Barrista won the Super Contest a few years ago,
Speaker 1: dipping back to old school level percentage wins of sixty. Uh,
Speaker 1: there was a lot. I mean it was it was
Speaker 1: only a few years ago. It wasn't like it wasn't
Speaker 1: an old school year. There was a lot of entries.
Speaker 1: There was well over a thousand Damon Graham, by the way,
Speaker 1: who's been on this podcast. So I think I think
Speaker 1: seventy percent is probably the threshold. What's the all time record?
Speaker 1: The all time record is what James Salinas or C. H.
Speaker 1: Bawlers for the old Super Contest one they had the record,
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I think seventy percent is absolutely what
Speaker 1: you have to look for. Um, But I hadn't thought
Speaker 1: of that quarterly thing where you almost have to make
Speaker 1: the What you're saying, Todd is you have to make
Speaker 1: the calculus. If you're in it going into the final
Speaker 1: week of the quarter contest, you almost have to make
Speaker 1: the decision do I go for the hundred thousand here
Speaker 1: at the risk of fucking up the big one? And
Speaker 1: what made me think of this is that because you
Speaker 1: talked about this on your show today when you had
Speaker 1: Crack on, I believe you were talking about the contest
Speaker 1: at the end of the contest where you have to
Speaker 1: have this game theory just so that people understand exactly
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. If you if you need in
Speaker 1: first and second place and you're behind me by two
Speaker 1: games and I picked and you end up on the
Speaker 1: same teams as me, forget it lost because there's no
Speaker 1: way you can make up ground. Whereas if you pick
Speaker 1: five the opposite teams of you could theoretically five and
Speaker 1: two and thirty and you can win because you pick
Speaker 1: up three games. So that kind of thing is gonna
Speaker 1: in play even in a quarter the situation, and then
Speaker 1: you brought up make the great point. You have to
Speaker 1: decide do I go for the hundred k or do
Speaker 1: I worry more about my season long deal. Yeah. You
Speaker 1: know what's interesting too. What's interesting to Gil and Todd
Speaker 1: is that in our contest, obviously we're only paying ten
Speaker 1: because we didn't know people are critical of that. Well
Speaker 1: they only k ten, But we didn't know if we
Speaker 1: were going to have three hundred entries. It was our
Speaker 1: first year. But think of this, second place for the
Speaker 1: overall contest is a hundred thousand. You know, it goes
Speaker 1: from a million to a hundred down to whatever sixty five.
Speaker 1: But so each quarter, if we get to seventeen hundred,
Speaker 1: is actually going to be the same as second place.
Speaker 1: So so that that that quarterly theory is pretty strong.
Speaker 1: Now I am so worried that I know my jacket
Speaker 1: size right now. You have no idea. It's got to
Speaker 1: get that down. Also, Todd, Todd, did you notice the
Speaker 1: way that Gil suddenly hinted back to something you mentioned
Speaker 1: earlier by intentionally mispronouncing Barista. I didn't, did I is
Speaker 1: it not pronounced barista A barista lista? Yes? Oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I think I mean you did pronounce Steve Ploor Steve Burline,
Speaker 1: or that's true, you did misper pronounced Steve Burline. That's correct,
Speaker 1: that barista may be an alternate pronunciation. I might be
Speaker 1: critical here, Yeah, I think I think I might be. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, gentlemen, let's wrap this up here. Teaser of
Speaker 1: the week, Mike, you got DIBs? What do you got?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to two of your best bets. I'll
Speaker 1: tease the Eagles down, and I'm gonna tease the uh.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tease the Steelers up. Yeah, we don't quite
Speaker 1: get the Eagles through the three at this point. When
Speaker 1: we do get them through the seven, but I'm if
Speaker 1: I may jump my turn here, Todd, that's actually mine
Speaker 1: as well. Pittsburgh up to twelve, through the seven and
Speaker 1: the ten and the Eagles down. I love that one, Todd.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I like the San Diego Chargers, even though
Speaker 1: they are no longer in San Diego, handicapped at the coach.
Speaker 1: I like the San Diego Chars to cheese down to
Speaker 1: I believe around one or a half, right, because we're
Speaker 1: doing six point teasers, right, okay? Chargers? And then the Saints,
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints last scene suing the National Football
Speaker 1: League for a penalty in New Orleans court. I will
Speaker 1: take them down to plus a half against the maybe
Speaker 1: most annoying coach in the history of the National Football League, Bilbrian.
Speaker 1: All right, and you are, it should be pointed out,
Speaker 1: you are doing the teasers proper, the old Stanford Wong
Speaker 1: teasers again, the most profitable teasers in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: Taking a home favorite down through the seven and three,
Speaker 1: which is Todd just did with both the charges in
Speaker 1: the Saints, or taking small favorites either on the home
Speaker 1: or roadside, and teasing them up to go through the
Speaker 1: three and seven the other way. Those are the most
Speaker 1: profitable teaser legs. Teasing a team that is a seven points, say,
Speaker 1: road favorite down is not a positive evy situation. Not
Speaker 1: that we had any of those just now, but just
Speaker 1: to let people know moving forward with the teaser segment.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you don't believe me, Todd
Speaker 1: and I, you too. You and I talked about this
Speaker 1: on the show the other day. The South Point Hotel
Speaker 1: Casino had twenty one different permutations of teasers. They did
Speaker 1: a little inventory on this before last football season. They
Speaker 1: had twenty one different permutations six point teaser, six and
Speaker 1: a half, seven point anywhere between two to eight teams.
Speaker 1: They found that they were getting beat on fifteen of them,
Speaker 1: and so what did they do? They raised the juice
Speaker 1: on all of those because what they wanted to do
Speaker 1: was make your break even strike that much higher. Your
Speaker 1: break even percentage went up incrementally, and so that tipped
Speaker 1: the scales back in their favor. So again, you don't
Speaker 1: have to believe what we're saying. The books are basically
Speaker 1: admitting that to you by making those kinds of price adjustments.
Speaker 1: Final two questions, gentlemen, is how we close out each
Speaker 1: and every podcast. This is the one sort of carry
Speaker 1: over from all of it. Which is the big favorite
Speaker 1: on the board? Define mine by I sort of fudget.
Speaker 1: Usually it's a touchdown or more, but sometimes I dip
Speaker 1: it down to six boy favorites or more, which are
Speaker 1: the big favorite on the board that you believe is
Speaker 1: the most likely to lose. Out right, here are your
Speaker 1: choices from week one. The Eagles, as we've talked about,
Speaker 1: ten point favorites over the Redskins, I'll throw in the
Speaker 1: the should I throw in Cleveland Shore Cleveland six point
Speaker 1: favorites or five and a half point favorites Hosting the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans Baltimore six and a half point favorites on
Speaker 1: the road at Miami, Seattle ten point favorites at home
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati Chargers six and a half point favorites at
Speaker 1: home against the Colts, and then Dallas seven point favorites
Speaker 1: at home against the Giants. And we mentioned New Orleans
Speaker 1: seven point favorites at home the first of two Monday
Speaker 1: night games hosting the Texans. Mike, which is the one
Speaker 1: most likely to lose outright, Well, it's the same as
Speaker 1: my My first best bet is, uh, the Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: think the Giants are a live dog here and have
Speaker 1: a shot to win this game. Todd, same question, I
Speaker 1: have the same answer to. It's the same as my
Speaker 1: best bet the Titans plus the five and a half
Speaker 1: against Freddie Kitchens and Jesus and quarterback. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Believe it or not, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Like division game, you never quite know
Speaker 1: what could happen there. Dallas just getting Zeke back of
Speaker 1: course this week. That is one of five afternoon games.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing the NFL got right in Week one,
Speaker 1: because I don't think CBS has the US open package
Speaker 1: anymore tennis, which obviously has the men's final this Sunday,
Speaker 1: so five afternoon games. I would say Dallas the most
Speaker 1: likely to lose out right. We none of us are
Speaker 1: predicting by the way that these teams will lose out right,
Speaker 1: But if we had to choose one, uh, those are
Speaker 1: the teams were going with. And then the final question
Speaker 1: full slate of games. Sixteen games in the NFL Week one,
Speaker 1: which is the game on the side that if you
Speaker 1: had to pick one, Mike, if you were forced to
Speaker 1: bet fifteen of them on the side, but you've got
Speaker 1: one free pass, one game that you want no part
Speaker 1: of whatsoever, which game would it be? I don't. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to play this Jets Bills game. I think
Speaker 1: these teams are awful close and the line is probably
Speaker 1: right at three. A lot of people are really bullish
Speaker 1: on the Jets. I'd like to I'd like to see
Speaker 1: these two teams play because I think that the thought
Speaker 1: is they're very similar and how successful they're going to
Speaker 1: be this year, so you get three points being at
Speaker 1: the Jets. I think the line is right on. I
Speaker 1: would not bet that game. Yeah, I don't. I would
Speaker 1: stay away from that too. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: my first choice, though, Todd, what's your What's the one
Speaker 1: you want no part of? The one I want no
Speaker 1: part of is the Rams Carolina. What Cam Newton is
Speaker 1: gonna show up? A healthy camp or a totally unhealthy
Speaker 1: Cam Newton who throws the ball five feet over guy's heads,
Speaker 1: does stupid thing, all kinds of nonsense, and you want
Speaker 1: to kill yourself if you back them. So I have
Speaker 1: no idea what Carolina team I'm getting this week, so
Speaker 1: I want no part of it. For me, it's a
Speaker 1: toss up between Mike's Buffalo Jets pick because I really
Speaker 1: don't want any part of that and Denver Oakland actually
Speaker 1: the second of the two Monday night games. I don't
Speaker 1: really have a feel for that. And if you look
Speaker 1: at Oakland schedule, man, they better win this game because
Speaker 1: they don't win this good Lord, I don't know when
Speaker 1: they're winning. Their schedule is brutal. But I would actually
Speaker 1: say gunnahead Buffalo Jets. That's the one that I would
Speaker 1: want the least part of. That would be my answer
Speaker 1: as well, Gil, can we get our since the season
Speaker 1: is starting to Nike in the three of us make
Speaker 1: our conference champion in Super Bowl predictions. Now, I just
Speaker 1: think that would be it. All right, let's do that.
Speaker 1: Let's hear from Todd Wish. Wow, I'm put on the spot.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know I needed to come up with one,
Speaker 1: but I guess I'm gonna do something boring. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Uncle Billy to win the a f C.
Speaker 1: He seems to win it every year. How can not
Speaker 1: take Uncle Billy Belichick to win the a f C
Speaker 1: in the National Football Conference? I think I would have
Speaker 1: to go. And this is just totally on the spot.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with your New Orleans things. Wow, Mike,
Speaker 1: you want me to go next? Patriots Eagles? In fact,
Speaker 1: I bet it at to one. There's some markets that
Speaker 1: have exacted, some books that have the market for exact
Speaker 1: as which Christie Andrews, by the way, innovated many years ago.
Speaker 1: And I and let me just say this in advance.
Speaker 1: They're two hundred and fifty six different combinations of teams
Speaker 1: that get to the Super Bowl. Obviously, you can throw
Speaker 1: out some crappy teams, so it's not quite that difficult,
Speaker 1: not quite that much of a crapshoot. You'll get almost
Speaker 1: as good odds on this right before the postseason, so
Speaker 1: they're only thirty six combinations at that point. So this
Speaker 1: twenty five, the one that I have on the Eagles
Speaker 1: and the Patriots, you probably won't be worse than fifteen
Speaker 1: to one then, So not the greatest bet in the
Speaker 1: world to make now, but I made it nonetheless. But
Speaker 1: those are my two picks I went in terms of confidence.
Speaker 1: I'll tell the one that I have more confidence, and
Speaker 1: I really love the Eagles in the NFC. I think
Speaker 1: it's a regression year um for the Rams and not
Speaker 1: knowing Girley's health, and then uh, a tough choice for
Speaker 1: me between Chiefs and Steelers in the FC, but I
Speaker 1: went with the Chiefs. So Chiefs and Eagles in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Chiefs and Eagles. Should we do one wacky
Speaker 1: division pick that does off the radar? Can we do that?
Speaker 1: Let's do that before we close. Because I have the
Speaker 1: Niners at plus three Niners plus three to in the
Speaker 1: NFC West. I think a lot of people are sleeping
Speaker 1: on them. I think they've got a great young team
Speaker 1: that flies around. I think Jimmy g is gonna get
Speaker 1: it back together. And I think the Rams, while good
Speaker 1: will not be nearly as good as they were last
Speaker 1: year for any number of reasons, including the fact that
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick gave him a blueprint in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: the fact that we don't really know what Todd Gurley's doing.
Speaker 1: They had a great record in one score games last year.
Speaker 1: There's a whole bunch of reasons. But Niners plus three
Speaker 1: to win the West? Anything from you, Mike, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's what I was going to give out. I bet
Speaker 1: I bet the Niners. I didn't bet them to win
Speaker 1: the West, but that would be my prediction of of
Speaker 1: of a team under the radar. I bet him overwin
Speaker 1: total and to make the playoffs. And then the other
Speaker 1: one is I think that the Falcons are very live
Speaker 1: in the in the NFC South. I think their schedule
Speaker 1: is very favorable for them and that they don't have
Speaker 1: to play in any cold weather. So I'd look at
Speaker 1: Niners and Falcons. Is upset division winners? Niners and Falcons?
Speaker 1: Uh time my, uh, you know, pull it out of
Speaker 1: your ass, so to speak. It would be the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars are in that typical NFL pattern of
Speaker 1: big step up one year, and we know They almost
Speaker 1: beat the Patriots to go to Super Bowl two years
Speaker 1: ago after whooping the Steelers in Pittsburgh in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So they were almost a super Bowl team two years ago.
Speaker 1: Then the ship hit the proverbial fan last year. And
Speaker 1: now if they can get it together with with Mr
Speaker 1: Nick Foles at the quarterback position, maybe they could have
Speaker 1: another big step forward. Because that defense was tremendous two
Speaker 1: years ago. And you know, if they could get that
Speaker 1: back together and get some stability instead of boarders at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, why can't they win that division? Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck's not there and you've got Bill O'Brien, so why
Speaker 1: can't they win? I mean, I was gonna say take
Speaker 1: of reasons, but you know, I don't wanna. I don't
Speaker 1: wanna say yeah. I'm just saying you're saying you want
Speaker 1: to pick that's like off the radar. Yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: like it. I like it. Well, Well, well, Mark mall
Speaker 1: Dann will see how ridiculous we are by the end
Speaker 1: of the season. I appreciate at Mike Palm conciliarated Derrick Stevens,
Speaker 1: the vice president of operations at Circuit Sports. Thank you,
Speaker 1: sir for being on and uh Todd Wish and of
Speaker 1: multi media star Uh. You may know him from Showtime's
Speaker 1: docuseries Action as the lovable guy at the south Point
Speaker 1: sports Book. Thank you both, I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 1: Kill Alexander, thank you so much for listening. Good luck
Speaker 1: with all your bets. Week one in the NFL.