1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Show Fun Friday. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: I promise I'm going to hit some. 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Of these deluged with you guys on remakes that were 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: worthy of being remade and even better than the original. 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about sequels, by the way, just because 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: we got some of those obviously sequels Godfather Part two, 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Godfather Part one really really good, a lot of people 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: pretending Godfather Part three didn't happen, But not sequels. I'm 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: talking about originals that were later remade. We'll talk about 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: that some. A couple of things that I want to 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: update the State of Texas. Governor Greg Abbott evidently now 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: doubling and tripling down on security at the southern border 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: as we speak. Fox News is reporting that they are 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: increasing the amount of razor wire and the obstacles that 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: would allow any illegal immigrant to enter, raising the stakes 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden as the decision of the Fifth Circuit 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: and the powers of the president versus a governor are 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: still being litigated in our federal court system. So I 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: just want to kind of put that on your horizon 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: we will update you if, by chance, there is any 23 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: additional action that occurs there, or certainly any sort of 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: confrontation that could occur between federal authorities and state authorities 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: at our southern border. But Buck, I wanted to update 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: everybody on the law fair that is underway against President 27 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: Trump because a couple of things happened that I thought 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: was interesting. You guys know out there, I'm an old man, 29 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: and I read the physical print newspaper, and I meant 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: to mention this. Yesterday New York Times editorial page Buck 31 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: calling for a writer on the editorial page, not the 32 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: editorial page itself, but a writer on the editorial page 33 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: saying that Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade in Georgia needed 34 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: to step down and remove themselves from that case. I 35 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: thought that was pretty significant that they would even publish 36 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: that editorial arguing that Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade do 37 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: not have the ability. Nathan Wade is her paramour, her mister, 38 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: the lover that she hired, that they do not have 39 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: the ability to continue on the case, and if that 40 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: were to happen, she has had to previously step down 41 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: from a prosecution of the Lieutenant governor in Georgia, and 42 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: Buckett's been eighteen months and nothing basically has happened in 43 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: that case. 44 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: So if she. 45 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Were to step down along with Nathan Wade, the whole 46 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: case would be thrown into an uproar. I've already told 47 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: you here on this show that my opinion is that 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: the Georgia prosecution of Donald Trump is effectively over. But 49 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: if she were stepping down, that would be significant because 50 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: it would basically acknowledge that in many ways. And the 51 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: fact that the New York Times is writing an editorial 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: that they published yesterday in the Thursday edition of the 53 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: program saying as much and encouraging her to step down 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: is I think significant. Also today Wall Street Journal and 55 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: The New York Times both had articles telling their readers 56 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: something that we have been telling you our listeners for 57 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: a substantial period of time now, That is that the 58 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: odds of their being very many completed or any completed 59 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: trials of Donald Trump by the time that the election 60 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: happens a little over nine months from now is becoming 61 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 1: increasingly unlikely. And I actually thought the New York Times 62 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: has a big graphic that it's laying out buck and 63 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: they said something this first time I've seen anybody else 64 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: write this. We told you a few days ago, at 65 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: least maybe it was last week that I actually think 66 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: the Alvin Bragg case in New York City, the bookkeeping felony, 67 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: is now going to be the first case that is 68 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: brought against Trump, and it may be the only case 69 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: that is brought against Trump from a criminal perspective, and 70 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: I think that is bad for Democrats because it's both 71 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: the weakest case and the most clearly political of all 72 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: of them. I still think it would get tossed on appeal, 73 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: but the fact that that might be the only bite 74 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: at the criminal apple that they get is really really significant. 75 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: Now they might be able. 76 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: To start the Jack Smith case, but I don't think 77 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: they could start that till after July fourth. The timing 78 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: and the math on that becomes very difficult to get 79 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: a conviction to get any kind of significant impact. And 80 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: so that's all going on. And one more little detail, 81 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: credit to the State of Georgia. I want to read 82 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: this and make sure that I get this right. On 83 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: the Fanny Willis investigation, they are finally getting around on 84 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: this buck. They have now come out and there are 85 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: impeachment proceedings that are being brought against Fanny Willis. 86 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: Chairwoman. 87 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm reading from Greg Price, chairwoman of the Freedom Caucus 88 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: in Georgia, has officially introduced articles of impeachment against Fanny Willis, 89 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: and maybe more significantly, the Georgia State Senate has voted 90 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: to create a special committee to investigate Fanny Willis. I 91 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: think there's a decent chance here that Fanny Willis ends 92 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: up charged with crimes buck, So the law fair against 93 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: Trump is fascinating to play out. 94 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the whole thing is over in Georgia. 95 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: It's not gonna work. You can't have the lead prosecutor 96 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: on such a politicized case involved in such obvious and 97 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: provable misconduct, right. I mean, the fact is it's they're 98 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: gonna look and see, they know what the ams are. 99 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: This isn't hard, and they'll be able to figure out 100 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: if she was having a relationship with this guy. And 101 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: even if it's not crime, I mean, you say, maybe 102 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: she'll be charged with the crime, it still looks so 103 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: bad that it's indefensible. There's there's no way to make 104 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: this seem like something that's innocent or within the bounds 105 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: of ethics. We already played for everybody. The audio of 106 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: her saying, you know, no one who works for me 107 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: is gonna be involved in a workplace relationship. I mean, 108 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: she was really strict sounding on that one. I guess 109 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: she doth protest too much. Maybe she had, you know, 110 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: a premonition of what was to come down the line 111 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: all of these cases against Trump. You know, maybe what 112 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: you're seeing now, Clay is that the strategy was, well, 113 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: I guess we really said this all along. They knew 114 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: they were gonna be there were gonna be problems. They 115 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: weren't sure which ones they could fit in. So that's 116 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: why they decided to go with all four and see 117 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: what slips through the cracks and finally becomes of the trial. 118 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: If it's the Alvin Bragg trial in New York, Uh, 119 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: I think the goal there is they just get they 120 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 2: get a hostile anti Trump jury, which, as we know, 121 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: is not hard in New York City, easier in d C. 122 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: New York does have and remember Trump is a son 123 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: of New York. I mean he's you know, born and 124 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: raised there, and you know he's a long time New Yorker. 125 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: Easier in d C, but still in New York you'll 126 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: get a lot of anti Trump hatred going. I think 127 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: they just want to get a felony conviction. I do 128 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: not think, you know, technical felony conviction. They're not going 129 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: to try to lock him up or give him house 130 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 2: arrest or anything like that. They'll probably say suspended sentence 131 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: and a fine. And they'll do that also because you know, 132 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: then the urgency with which a you know, the appeal 133 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: and everything is going to have. Let's say, look, I 134 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: mean he got he got probation, he got a fine. 135 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: That's the worst outcome that I can see for Trump there, 136 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: and the best outcome from the Democrat perspective is they 137 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: just want to be able to say convicted fellon Donald Trump. 138 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: They just want to get that fact pattern established. Wherever 139 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: they can do it, they'll do it right. So, even 140 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: as weak as it is, and we know it's it's 141 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: very it's weak and preposterous, I think they under that 142 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: they can't try to lock Trump into any kind of 143 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: a cell or even house arrest. Based on this and 144 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: then the DC case. You know, we talked to Julie 145 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: about this yesterday. There's a possibility they move that to July, right, 146 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: and if they move it back into the summer, they're 147 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: going to push that case through if it's done. And 148 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: I know you said DJ has these guidelines, but DJ 149 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: also has guidelines not to interfere in a presidential election, right, 150 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: I mean the guidelines are going to be I think 151 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: a secondary consideration. So we're not out of that. Trump 152 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: isn't out of the woods with this stuff yet. But 153 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: it's a mess. And clearly they didn't know or they 154 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: didn't know which one was going to hit, so they 155 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: just threw four cases at them, plus the civil stuff, 156 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: plus Eugene Carol. 157 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: It's just all out lawfair. It's artillery, barrage, lawfair. Let 158 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: me ask you this because you're you're a born and 159 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: raised New York City guy, and I'm looking at it 160 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: from the because I feel like many people don't even 161 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: understand the difference between civil and criminal, and it's all 162 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: just kind of a big gobbly gook of mess. And 163 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: so I don't know that you get any value now 164 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: because it's such a mucked up story. Are people really 165 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: get to distinguish between the Alvin Bragg, you know, payment 166 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: thing and then e Jane Carroll And I just think 167 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: it's all rolled together and kind of baked in, especially 168 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: in New York. 169 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 2: Well, I also I think that the defense attorney in 170 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: the Alvin Bragg against the Alvin Bragg case is in 171 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: a is it going to be a Lena Hobba like? 172 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: Do we know who is? I'm sure question, I'm not 173 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: sure who the defense lead defense attorney on that's going 174 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: to be. But the defense attorney will be able to 175 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 2: make a very clear case that as much as it's 176 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: a boring book keeping and remember to elevate it to 177 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: a felony, this is a critical piece as well. They 178 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: have to say that it's tied to the state charge, 179 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: is tied to an additional federal crime. Yes, so you're 180 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: hiding it at a and that's a crime at a 181 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: state level. Usually would be a misdemeanor. But we're saying 182 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: it's a felony because you are hiding something that's tied 183 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: to a federal They've never established or said what the 184 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: federal felony is. Here's the problem they run into though, 185 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: by their logic, and this will be very clear for 186 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: a jury, and you only need one person to get 187 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 2: to a hung jury on this and then have a mistrial. 188 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: By their logic, Trump could pay millions and millions of 189 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: dollars of campaign funds to women he has had affairs with, yes, 190 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: to keep them quiet, And that would be, by Alvin 191 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: Bragg's logic, a legitimate campaign expenditure. You cannot mandate that 192 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: someone puts something down as a campaign expenditure and say 193 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: you cannot use campaign funds for that. So this for 194 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: anybody really with a you know, an IQ that's higher 195 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 2: than room temperature, should be pretty obvious out or I 196 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: should say, anybody who's not a completely Trump deranged loon. 197 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: He hates Trump, but it's New York who knows. 198 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: I also think the idea of being able to use 199 00:10:54,080 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: a federal criminal violation to up a state penal right 200 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: from a misdemeanor to a felony, and remember it as 201 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: soon as. 202 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: You're guilty of the federal felony. By the way, that's 203 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: the problem. There's an assumption. 204 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: Built into it, and there's not it's not even clear 205 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: that that's statutorially permissible under the New York state law 206 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: as a justification to elevate. But remember Alvin Bragg is 207 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: dropping felonies to misdemeanors all the time. He's almost never 208 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: elevating misdemeanor to felony. So this is so transparently political 209 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: that I think Trump benefits because remember, you've got the 210 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: Leticia James case going on, You've got the E. G. 211 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: And Carroll case going on, You've got the Alvin Bragg 212 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: case going on. All three of those are New York 213 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: City or state focused prosecutions. I just think the average 214 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: person out there is unable to keep track of all 215 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: these different legal moving permutations and just kind of sees 216 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: it all as one big collection of anti Trump law 217 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: fair and I think it would benefit Trump if the 218 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg case ends up being maybe the only one 219 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: that goes to a full verdict, regardless of whether there's 220 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: any legal legitimacy to it at all, because it just 221 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: creates that stew of impropriety legally that I don't think 222 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: it's rectified. So that is where we are, and I 223 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: think it's important because the media is catching up to 224 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: what we have been telling you now four months about 225 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: the way that this is going to the overall timetable 226 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: associated with all this. 227 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: We'll talk to Uncle Bill, mister Bill O'Riley about this 228 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: in just a few moments, because he's going to be 229 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: joining us a lot to discuss with him. But you 230 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: know there's some great work that I want to tell 231 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: you about that's being done by the folks who run 232 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 2: the Preborn Network of Clinics. 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I 255 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: just wanted to note that, Wow, we have a bunch 256 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: of excellent ideas for movie remakes that are better than 257 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: the original, and I hadn't thought about these true grit. 258 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: That one, I gotta say, is very very watchable Western 259 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: the remake. The original's good too, to be clear, but 260 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: the remake is look old movies, the pacing, the dialogue. 261 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: You know, I know people are very nostalgic about old movies, 262 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: and my view, very few old movies really truly hold up. 263 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: They're great for what they were, but it's kind of like, 264 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: you know, a Stanley Steamer is cool, but you don't 265 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: want to drive around in and all the time like 266 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: you appreciate it for what it was, you know, the 267 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: very old car. 268 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, what do you think the 269 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: best hold up? That's another good question. The best old 270 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: movie that holds up? And I mean like old movie, 271 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: not like something from the nineteen seventies or the nineteen eighties. 272 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Hitchcock stuff, maybe just because 273 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: we've all been trained to think he's brilliant, but north 274 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: By Northwest and Psycho, and I think some of the 275 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: old Hitchcock stuff holds up really well. I mean we're 276 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: talking about, like, I'm trying to think of how old 277 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: we're going back here. I don't know what's the oldest 278 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: movie that you can think of that you think? 279 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: Is it? 280 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: Kane is still pretty incredible a movie. I think, like 281 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: I try to watch. 282 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: Itcause everyone says it's the best movie of all time. 283 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: I fall asleep, so i' gonna have to go back 284 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: to it. I was a little tired, to be fair. 285 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: I just I just outed myself as like a total 286 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: philistine when it comes to movies. Lord of the Rings. 287 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: Someone said, that's a remake. There was a Lord of 288 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: the Rings cartoon that they never finished, and I remember 289 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: seeing because I read the books as a kid, and 290 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: then I wanted to be able to see it. On 291 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: the big screen, and there was a cartoon. It was 292 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: actually like a pretty good cartoon for what it was 293 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: at the time. But the one that also got me 294 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: is Dune, another fantastic novel, probably the best or the 295 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: most you know, beloved sci fi novel of all time 296 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: in that genre, and if you look at it, a 297 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: lot of Star Wars. I think I got a little 298 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: ripped off from Dune. But Dune is amazing, and the 299 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: remake of it is a plus, and the new one's 300 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: coming out, Dune too is coming out soon. I think 301 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: this year. 302 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: Are one of our guys down in Houston, Brian Erickson, 303 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: he's a director of programming down there. We appreciate all 304 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: of you listening right now. Uh monster audience, He says. 305 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: The Man on Fire Denzel Washington version way better than 306 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: the original. 307 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I believe that because that's a good I didn't 308 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: know that was a remix. I didn't know it was 309 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: a remake either. That's a that's a legit good movie. Yeah. 310 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: I got to tell a bundle of people say in 311 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: true Grit, like in my email, which is rare, like 312 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: just deluged an email with people saying true Grit is 313 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: an incredible I think Jeff Bridges got an oscar for that, 314 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: and uh and true Grit is a it's a fan. 315 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: It's just a great watch start to finish, really really 316 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: well done. 317 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: Matt Damon's even reasonably good in it. I you know, 318 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: I don't agree with the guy's politics all the time, 319 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: but he is good in some movie. I gotta say. 320 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: You know what else I saw though, someone that was 321 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: in the Wall Street shorl of the New York Times, 322 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: that producer Ali Sennis, the person who said that Barbie 323 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 2: is just a bad movie. 324 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: I read that this morning. Actually I read that editorial. 325 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: I read it too. I'm so glad that someone will 326 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: speak the truth. Barbie is very much the movie equivalent 327 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: of Hamilton the Broadway Show. It is not good ed. 328 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: Barbie is bad. Do not let the politics cloud your mind. 329 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: We're talking art, and it's crappy art on both counts. 330 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: My wife, I said, she agreed with you. She watched 331 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: Barbie and she was like, yeah, it wasn't very I 332 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: haven't seen any of it. She watched it on our 333 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: airplane flight. Recently. 334 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: Lara's movie taste so far as one hundred percent. So 335 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: I'm just you know, you I don't know, Clay, you 336 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 2: will get skipped out looking for some feel good stories 337 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 2: to balance out all the craziness in the world. 338 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna want to check out a new podcast. It's 339 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: called Our American Stories. It's a daily podcast series. It 340 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: feature stories about America and its people. Whether those Americans 341 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: are immersed in sports, business, or the arts, their stories 342 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: are compelling. On today's episode, learn about how a Hollywood 343 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: movie legend left everything behind a service country, or how 344 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: a small business in nineteen seventy two became an iconic 345 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: brand known around the world. Each day, Our American Stories 346 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: tells the stories about the men and women who built 347 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: this country and continue to do so. Find this podcast 348 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts. Make it a part of 349 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: your day. 350 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: Our American Stories is available now on the iHeartRadio app, 351 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 2: the free iHeartRadio app, by the way, which you should 352 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: all download. You can get it there or wherever you 353 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. Check out Our American Stories today. We're 354 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: joined now by our friend Bill O'Reilly. Tons of number 355 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: one best selling books. You can go check those out everywhere. 356 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: And I mentioned this the most recent Killing the Witches, 357 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: which is really good. 358 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: Read it myself. My parents love it, and I think, oh, 359 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: you mean like this Killing the Witches, which people watching 360 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: on the stream. I am holding it up for uncle 361 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: Bill here because I've got my copy here. 362 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: Because I have been reading it. All right, it is 363 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: really good. 364 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 3: Bill. 365 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: Let's dive right into this. Trump is going to be 366 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: the nominee. You and I do not believe that he's 367 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: going to run against Joe Biden. There suddenly is a 368 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: lot to talk about Michelle Obama. She is if you 369 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: look at the gambling markets, the third most likely number 370 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: one is Trump, Number two is Biden. Number three is 371 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama, third most likely to be elected president. You 372 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: buy into the Michelle Obama hype or do you think 373 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: someone else would replace Biden? And do you still think 374 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: Biden's on his way out? 375 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is nobody else. 376 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 4: So the Democratic Party has only one option, and that 377 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 4: would be if Michelle Obama signaled that she would accept 378 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: a nomination at the convention. She's not going to campaigning, 379 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 4: not going to be Super Tuesday, not going to be 380 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 4: going to the diners, not. 381 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 3: Going to be anything like that. So how it would 382 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 3: shake down would be. 383 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 4: Just like nineteen sixty eight, Lyndon Johnson going to serve 384 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: out my term and not going to run again. This 385 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 4: is Joe Biden who would do it. And I'm throwing 386 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: all my delegates to Michelle Obama. She walks in to 387 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 4: Chicago's convention in August and they crown her, and that's 388 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: and then she runs against Trump. So that is a 389 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 4: scenarioh Now, a lot of Democrats that I know pretty 390 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: good connections say that Michelle's not interested, even though she 391 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: has been more visible lately. 392 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: That's what they say. I don't know, Bill. 393 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the border. Thanks for 394 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: being here with us. Sure clearly gotten more attention at 395 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 2: the national level than it has I think in a while. 396 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: It's a combination of things. The huge numbers now going 397 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 2: on call it seven million something like that, going to 398 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: be eight million by the end of this year. Illegals 399 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: pouring into the country now, the Biden administration fighting in 400 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: court for the right to take away barbed wire to 401 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: make it easier for illegals to come into the country. 402 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: How do you think it's an election year? They know 403 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: this is They're unpopular on this one. The polls are 404 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: terrible for Biden on the border. How do you think 405 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: they play it? They just try to blame Republicans. What 406 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: do they do well? 407 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 4: The latest play is that the Republicans won't compromise on 408 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 4: new border restrictions and they want the issue to run 409 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 4: in November on it. That's what Wall Street Journal said today. 410 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 4: That's what all the corporate media is putting out there. 411 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 4: The truth is a different matter, and people need to 412 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 4: listen closely now to this analysis. And this is why 413 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 4: you should go to Bill O'Reilly dot com every day 414 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 4: because I have a message of the day on this subject. 415 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 4: I'm currently writing a book called Confronting the Presidents, No 416 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 4: Spin Assessments from Washington to Biden. Every single president is 417 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: going to be assessed on whether they hurt or help 418 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: the country. Let's finish with it. It'll be out in September. 419 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: I have never seen an active policy as bad as 420 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 4: Joe Biden's open border policy. Never in our Republic's history 421 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 4: has any sitting president done actively done something to bring 422 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 4: so much harm to the country now passively, Buchanan and 423 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 4: Pearce didn't do anything about the growing rebellion in the 424 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 4: South before Lincoln. 425 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: Prohibition was an insane the run up to. 426 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 4: The Great Depression was crazy, But this one is a 427 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 4: progressive tenant that Joe Biden embraced because he is not 428 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: capable of thinking about unintended consequences of anything of anything. 429 00:22:54,680 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: And now the nation is getting blasted fiscally, narcotic, you 430 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 4: name it, and Biden sits there in fiddles just like Nero. 431 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: So the press has ignored. 432 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 4: The story, largely because what are they going to do 433 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: say bad things about Biden. 434 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: That's never going to happen for the corporate media. 435 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 4: So most Americans who don't live down by the border, 436 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 4: they don't know how bad this is. Accept In the 437 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 4: last six months, the migrants have now come to New 438 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 4: York City, to Chicago, to Los Angeles, and the states 439 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: and cities have to pay their way, and that is 440 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 4: bankrupting the state and local municipalities and it will lead 441 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 4: to tax rises that working people can't afford. That's what's 442 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 4: happening right now. 443 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: Now. 444 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 4: The Democratic Party will just tell you it's not that bad. 445 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 4: I mean, you heard may Orcus Border Secure, okay, bag Dad, Bob, 446 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 4: you know, soda, i'm's winning. 447 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: We're winning. 448 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 4: You remember that in the go We're winning exactly the 449 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: same thing. But people believe what they want to believe 450 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: and Democrats who don't want Trump are going to believe 451 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 4: whatever is put in front of them only hope that 452 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: the nation is an independent voters say, this is madness. 453 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 4: We got to get this president out of there. 454 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: Bill. 455 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: If I know you talked to Donald Trump a decent amount, 456 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: You've done a lot of events with him over the years, 457 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: I think you have a certain amount of fondness for him. 458 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: If he called you and he said who should I 459 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: pick as vice president? You think that he's not necessarily 460 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: going to be running against Biden. We have a lot 461 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: of conversation on this show already about who the VP 462 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: should be and whether it even matters that much. But 463 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: let's pretend that Trump asks you who his VP should be. 464 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: Who would you say he should be considering? 465 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 4: I already told him Huckaby Sanders, the governor of Arkansas, AH. 466 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: And what do. 467 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: Second villain? So you told you said? 468 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: By the way, we had a call or a while back, 469 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: who's probably listening right now, like just throwing his fist 470 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: up in the air, who said the pick's going to 471 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: be Sarah Huckeby Sanders. What do you like about her? 472 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: She's Arkansas's governor, She's been on this program several times. 473 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: I like her too as well. What makes her the 474 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: right choice? 475 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 3: To you? Well, with Trump, it's all about trust. 476 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 4: And not overshadowing him. So already has a working relationship 477 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 4: with the governor because she was in a White House 478 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 4: communications office, and she's not the type of person that 479 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: would hotshot it. Good campaigner came up with a very 480 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 4: witty slogan, Team normal versus Team crazy. You could run 481 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 4: with that all day long. And I think women respect her. Yeah, 482 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 4: she had a lot of advantages because of her father 483 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: being governor of Arkansas, but she looks to be she's 484 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 4: a mom, she's hardworking, she's honest. I don't see a 485 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 4: downside to her when you're looking at a vice president. 486 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 4: That's the first question. What's the downside? And the upside 487 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 4: is that I think women who don't in general, a 488 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 4: lot of them have you know, a dubious opinion of 489 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 4: Donald Trump that might reassure them a little bit. 490 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: I agree with you, by the way, and we've talked 491 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: about this. I think Trump going with a female vice 492 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: presidential candidate, given his challenges with women, particularly college educated 493 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: white women in the suburbs, is not a bad move 494 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: at all. And it's not going to hurt him, and 495 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: it could actually be very beneficial. 496 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, look, comfort zone. 497 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: Is important for a presidential ticket. So Pence was a 498 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 4: good vice president for Trump because he was a technician 499 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 4: and ran Indiana very well as governor, and he didn't 500 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 4: want to overshadow Trump, and Trump listened to pens And 501 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 4: so now with the demographics shifting in favor of a 502 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 4: female voters, you almost have to go with a woman 503 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: on the second if you're Trump. 504 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: So to me, it's not even a tough call. 505 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 2: Bill, we're speaking of Bill Riley. Everybody killing the Witches 506 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: the latest. I've got my copy right here on the desk. 507 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: You can also go to billiarilly dot com for more, 508 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: including his message of the Day. And Bill, I wonder 509 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 2: all the legal stuff we've been talking about this that 510 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 2: Trump has been up against. It feels like some of 511 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: it certainly is slipping away. I mean, the Fannie Willis thing, 512 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 2: that's a disaster for the Democrats. I think everybody knows 513 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: it's a disaster for Fannie Willis, that's for sure. Some 514 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 2: of the other stuff is looking like it may be 515 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: trickier on a timeline, particularly the two federal cases Alvin 516 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 2: Bragman actually happened. Do you think that they somehow managed 517 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: to not squeeze in a single one of these trials 518 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: before the election. How do you see it playing out 519 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: given that we're here in January at twenty four sure? 520 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 4: I mean, the appeals process almost guarantees that Trump will 521 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 4: not be in a courtroom on a criminal beef before 522 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 4: the election. So the Atlanta thing is done, all right? 523 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 4: Fanny did all kinds of things that we know she 524 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 4: did because of bank records, so their allegations, and she's 525 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 4: in tonnal to due process. But she did it, and 526 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 4: that is called prosecutorial misconduct. So the governor of Georgia, Kemp, 527 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: should have already suspended her from the case, is about 528 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 4: to do that, and the Attorney general should take it 529 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: over because this is insane. You can't have look the 530 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 4: key to Fanny Willis and they can call it Fannie 531 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 4: or whatever else, but her name is Fanny, all right? 532 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 4: Is that she sent her boyfriend who she hired to 533 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: help with the Trump prosecution, to the White House twice. 534 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 4: Why that's a local beef Fulton County. What's this guy 535 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 4: doing in the White House? And that's the big story 536 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 4: right there. So Atlanta, forget it, New York. These are 537 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 4: local beefs that the Trump lawyers will kick up to 538 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 4: federal court on a his civil rights are being violated. 539 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 4: Trump's civil rights are being violated. That's because it's a 540 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 4: foregone that Trump will lose in New York City because 541 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 4: it's New York City. And if you think we probably 542 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 4: can get a fair trial in New York City, you're crazy. 543 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 4: So they'll bump it up into you know, his rights 544 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: of being violated, Trump's rights are being violent. And then 545 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 4: I don't think forever. The Jack Smith special counsel ma 546 00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 4: Lago and conspiracy on January sixth, those are very very 547 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 4: weak cases because Biden did the same thing, and the 548 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 4: special counsel for Biden, her Robert Herr, said yeah, he 549 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 4: did it, but I'm not going to do anything hello, 550 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: you know, so that really hurt Smith. And as far 551 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 4: as the the conspiracy to promote the riot on January sixth, boy, 552 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 4: that's a long shot. Physic sculpatory evidence all over the 553 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 4: place on that case. So I think Trump's got, you know, 554 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 4: a seventy seventy five percent chance of getting to election 555 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 4: day without any kind of criminal conviction. 556 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly check him out Bill O'Reilly dot com. We'll 557 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: talk to you again soon, and go ahead and start 558 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: thinking about steakhouses because Buck's gonna have to buy us 559 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: a great one as soon as I'm gill. 560 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: Obama get an appetizer too. 561 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah bout me srim Cocktail's expensive, Bill, But for you, 562 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 2: we'll make it happen. Thank you. 563 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 4: I'm running it up Ali guys anytime. 564 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: Thanks having thanks you guys. Know, Buck and I are 565 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: history nerds, proud of it. 566 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: A lot of young adults out there actually don't know anything, 567 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: and they're not being taught anything because questions about the 568 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: founding fathers patriotism. Oh America is an awful place. That's 569 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: what we're all being taught. That's why Hillsdale College exists 570 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: because they've been leading the way and promoting civic education. 571 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 1: The administration and faculty at Hillsdale are groups of Americans 572 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: that did learn the true history of our heritage, the good, 573 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: the bad, the ugly. Same group of Americans doesn't take 574 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: our freedoms for granted and appreciates the sacrifices of men 575 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: and women who've defended our borders, stood up for democracy 576 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: when it was needed. The most you'll be able to 577 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: hear one of their latest forms of education, their actual 578 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: radio commercials called Constitution Minutes. These are short, clear lessons 579 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: on the principles of liberty, available to hear on demand 580 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: at Clayandbuck for Hillsdale dot Com. Now more than ever, 581 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: it's critical the next generation not only learns our history 582 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: or even understands the importance of defending our freedoms. That's 583 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck or Hillsdale dot Com. 584 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: We got Steven Miller joining. Will return to the issue 585 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: of the border. Also want to remind you of what 586 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: the Obama administration was saying about the border not too 587 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: long ago to put into context. How just completely radicalize 588 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: the party, the Democrat Party has become on this issue. 589 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: So we will will address that with you. I think 590 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: it's really important. Right now, we have some calls up 591 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: and Tammy in Lexington, Kentucky. First up, what's going on? Tammy? 592 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 5: Hey, guys, I was calling in because I wanted to 593 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 5: address the who the college educated women want to have 594 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 5: for vice president because I'm going to disagree. 595 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 6: I have three degrees and it never enters my mind 596 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 6: that I want a woman as vice president. I think 597 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 6: college educated women want someone in there who is strong, 598 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 6: who's physically responsible, who wants border control, and he can 599 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 6: be president for eight years after Trump because we need 600 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 6: a solid twelve years to recover from all of this crap. 601 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: Well tell me, I think you're one hundred percent right 602 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: on that. But I bet you voted for Trump in 603 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: sixteen and twenty. I did so when Bill O'Reilly and 604 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: I and I'm curious that Buck would sign on here too. 605 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about people who may not have voted for 606 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: Trump in sixteen or twenty, or maybe they voted for 607 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: Trump in sixteen when away in twenty either didn't vote 608 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: or voted for Biden. I think that they can be 609 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: influenced by having the right VP. I don't know that 610 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: it mech makes up that much of a difference to 611 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: Trump supporters. 612 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 2: What are you about, you, Buck? 613 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: Like? 614 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: That's that's who I'm talking about, the college educated women 615 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: who are swinging. 616 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: I will tell you this first. First of all, ten 617 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: Clay and I totally agree with you with your sentiment. 618 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: But we you know you, me and Clay see the world. 619 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: I would I would be willing to bet largely the 620 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: same way. The demographic profile, though of college educated women 621 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: unfortunately was very tough for Trump in the last election. 622 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: So as a as a group, as a cohort, you 623 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: are and I guess you could say we are in 624 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: a different way an outlier here, but I hope you're right, 625 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: and thank you for calling in. And as to Clay 626 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: the vice president component of this, I just have I've 627 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: never met a person now now I'm doing what a 628 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: lot of people do, which is like, well, this is 629 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 2: my personal experience. I have never met someone who said 630 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to vote for that president but then 631 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: that VP made me feel better about it. Never met 632 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 2: that person, and I talked to a lot of people 633 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 2: about politics, you know what I'm saying. So I don't 634 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: know if it. I think it's something that is unproven 635 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 2: at best that a VP would move persuadable voters. 636 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: My theory on this is that there are lots of 637 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: people out there who are undecided who they're gonna vote for, 638 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: and they are not gonna like Trump or Biden. They 639 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: don't want to vote for either Trump or Biden. Right 640 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: this cohort of the population, I know that there will 641 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: be conversations and some of you may be party to 642 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: them come October, where people are sitting around and they say, man, 643 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: I really don't like Trump or Biden. I can't believe 644 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: this is our two choices. This will be a common 645 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: cliche conversation. And I think there is a possibility that 646 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: some of those people would be like, they don't like Kamala, right, 647 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: Kamala is even less popular than Joe Biden. If Trump 648 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: picked a VP that had appeal to those undecided voters. 649 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: You just heard Bill O'Riley say, Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I 650 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: could see that where it's a mom, she's got kids, 651 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: and she seems relatively normal. 652 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 2: And remember it's only four years. 653 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: I can see people saying, I don't really like Trump 654 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: or Biden, I don't like Kamala, but I really like 655 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: X whoever Trump picks as the VP. And that could 656 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: be something that gets people across the finish line. I'm 657 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: not talking about diehard, political, zealous, middle of the road. 658 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 3: You know what. 659 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 2: I think we'll get people across the finish line for 660 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: Trump if he hammers the border issue with everything he's got. 661 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 2: We'll talk to Steven Miller about that in a few minutes.